g:\07. razno\naktalk archive\2003\2003-1.txt ************************************************************************ From blueswapper at angelfire.com Wed Jan 1 01:02:08 2003 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 16:02:08 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Nak ZX-7 Owners Unite!!! Message-ID: Greetings..... I'd like to bring together those who possess a Nak ZX-7 cassette deck, and who wishes to discuss technical specifics and/or exchange information. Particularly, I'd like to find other collectors who enjoy using the Nak ZX-7, its many useful manual control features, and to share methods to get the most out of utilizing our superb analogue cassette decks. I've got a full technical review article from Audio Magazine (May 1982) and users/service manuals to share. Without recent success, I've been searching for an original Nak ZX-7 infomational sales brochure (full color version). Anyone have that brochure available to photo copy or digitally scan? Email me directly to make contact. Best regards, and happy holidays!!! K.J. Bleus Madison, Wisc USA --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus From Mhugo at sunint.co.za Wed Jan 1 08:57:15 2003 From: Mhugo at sunint.co.za (Mark Hugo) Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 09:57:15 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Happy New Year Message-ID: To all naktalkers and naktree members, have a great New Year and may 2003 be everything you hope for. Cheers, Marc The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient/s. If you are not the intended recipient, you cannot use, copy, distribute, disclose or retain the email or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying to this message and to permanently delete it and all attachments from your computer. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present in this email and the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. From wheijke at xs4all.nl Wed Jan 1 12:22:06 2003 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 12:22:06 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Nak ZX-7 Owners Unite!!! References: Message-ID: <3E12CF5D.28DDE197@xs4all.nl> Happy New Year! I'm the owner of one of these beauties! It's been one of my favorite Naks since the day they came to market, at my local Nakamichi dealer at that time! Then I was just too young and could only 'afford' to get the full color sales brochure, take it home and dream on... So a few years ago i bought one in great shape and loved it immedeately. I must say that after using it for some time and after getting a fully automated 1000zxl my love changed to this baby, it simply made more accurate calibrated tapes to me.... but they both have something special i must say! But still it's one of my favorite decks and i'll dig-up the brochure and scan it for the comminity! I also have the owners manual (somewhere), i only forgot if i have the Ducth, or also the English version or both...so i could make it available in pdf also some time... Wouter The BlueSwapper wrote: > Greetings..... > > I'd like to bring together those who possess a Nak ZX-7 cassette deck, and who wishes to discuss technical specifics and/or exchange information. Particularly, I'd like to find other collectors who enjoy using the Nak ZX-7, its many useful manual control features, and to share methods to get the most out of utilizing our superb analogue cassette decks. > > I've got a full technical review article from Audio Magazine (May 1982) and users/service manuals to share. Without recent success, I've been searching for an original Nak ZX-7 infomational sales brochure (full color version). Anyone have that brochure available to photo copy or digitally scan? Email me directly to make contact. > > Best regards, and happy holidays!!! > > K.J. Bleus > Madison, Wisc USA > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Wed Jan 1 01:34:24 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 11:34:24 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] CR-7E Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E26@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Hi Dusan. Welcome to the group. If you want my opinion get the CR7E, you won't regret it. Regards Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: Dusan [mailto:naktalk at email.si] Sent: Wednesday, 1 January 2003 3:20 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] CR-7E Hi, I'm new to this list. First of all, I would like to send everyone many greetings form Slovenija. I think I'm the first slovenian subscriber to this list. I have found a used CR-7E deck at some german delaler's homepage. He wants 500 Euros for it. He says it's in excellent shape and it is 8 years old. Do you think it is worth 500 Euros? If you don't mind, I would like to get some more info about this deck and I would appreciate your help. Can someone tell me when has Nakamichi stopped CR-7 production. Do you think tha 8 years old CR-7 already has gear upgrade? Do yu have any idea where could I get service manual for CR-7? Thank you very much and Happy New Year to you all! Dusan ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Wed Jan 1 01:39:28 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 11:39:28 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E27@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Hi John. It all depends on whether you want to play the cd on a regular cd player. If yes then burn the cd using the large .wav file. I don't know much about Roxio software - I'm a Nero user myself, and have found using Nero that if you tell the software that you want to burn audio cd, and have selected .mp3 files, the software will do "on the fly" conversion to proper cd audio. Hope this helps. Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: John M. Tooley [mailto:jmtooley at ce.net] Sent: Wednesday, 1 January 2003 2:54 To: reeltoreel at yahoogroups.com Cc: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC I want to copy a deceased friends voice from cassette to CD. So ReVox B 215 to Creative Sound Blaster Augigy Soundcard to Roxio Easy CD Creator 5.3.2.34a / Spin Doctor which then I believe copies everything as a .wav file to my H/D. If this is so far correct do I then burn CD using the large .wav file or convert to MP3? Any and all help would be much appreciated. John -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kannan_s at vsnl.com Wed Jan 1 18:03:59 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 22:33:59 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] Sorry James!! Message-ID: <20030101170359.7A9C011491C@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From jmtooley at ce.net Wed Jan 1 18:32:32 2003 From: jmtooley at ce.net (John M. Tooley) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 12:32:32 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Happy New Year References: Message-ID: <009201c2b1bb$c4559920$52106343@johnnyrotten> Same to you feller! Lets get back to Naktalk in a big way in 2003! John T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Hugo" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 2:57 AM Subject: [naktalk] Happy New Year > To all naktalkers and naktree members, have a great New Year and may 2003 be everything you hope for. > > Cheers, > > Marc > > The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject > to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more > attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the > named recipient/s. > > If you are not the intended recipient, you cannot use, copy, distribute, disclose > or retain the email or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. > If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying to > this message and to permanently delete it and all attachments from your computer. > > All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present > in this email and the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising > from the use of this email or attachments. > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > > From roleo at telus.net Wed Jan 1 21:45:02 2003 From: roleo at telus.net (Roland Alford) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 12:45:02 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions Needed References: <004b01c2b0e8$6cca6560$8b05fad5@dusan> <3E121887.E4B86A02@rcn.com> Message-ID: <000701c2b1d6$a8ced480$05a2b742@desktop> Gentlemen! I recently bought a Dragon but it's still being being serviced so I haven't received it yet. However, I'm re-arranging my entertainment unit to make room for it. (I am also adding a new Marantz DVD player - DV4300 - as well as a new TASCAM CD-RW2000 Pro CD recorder to my system, so I'm very excited about my new additions.) My Dragon will join my recently serviced 680ZX so I'm set in the cassette department I believe. However I need someone who has a Dragon to tell me the exact height of the unit. The manual says 5 5/16". Does that include the feet or is that just the dimensions of the unit's housing / faceplate? If not what is the exact height of the Dragon from shelf to the top of the unit? Measurements either in inches or cm will be fine. Any help would be appreciated. Thanx, Roland From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Wed Jan 1 23:14:39 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 22:14:39 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Nak ZX-7 Owners Unite!!! Message-ID: <20030101221439.MHMM6395.fep02-svc.ttyl.com@localhost> Blues Consider me in ... ZX9 is just a dressed up ZX7 plus super-drive ... Gra' > > From: "The BlueSwapper" > Date: Wed 01/Jan/2003 00:02 GMT > To: NakChatt at yahoogroups.com, naktalk at naks.com > CC: blueswapper at angelfire.com > Subject: [naktalk] Nak ZX-7 Owners Unite!!! > > Greetings..... > > I'd like to bring together those who possess a Nak ZX-7 cassette deck, and who wishes to discuss technical specifics and/or exchange information. Particularly, I'd like to find other collectors who enjoy using the Nak ZX-7, its many useful manual control features, and to share methods to get the most out of utilizing our superb analogue cassette decks. > > I've got a full technical review article from Audio Magazine (May 1982) and users/service manuals to share. Without recent success, I've been searching for an original Nak ZX-7 infomational sales brochure (full color version). Anyone have that brochure available to photo copy or digitally scan? Email me directly to make contact. > > Best regards, and happy holidays!!! > > K.J. Bleus > Madison, Wisc USA > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > __________________________________________________________________________ Freeserve AnyTime - Go online whenever you want for just £6.99 a month for your first 3 months, that's HALF PRICE! And then it's just £13.99 a month after that. For more information visit http://www.freeserve.com/time/ or call free on 0800 970 8890 From Mhugo at sunint.co.za Thu Jan 2 07:19:55 2003 From: Mhugo at sunint.co.za (Mark Hugo) Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 08:19:55 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions Needed: WALTER DREWES!! Message-ID: Hi Walter!!!! Would you be able to help Roland with the "practical" dimensions for the firey beast? i.E. On her feet....... I ring you later. Cheers, Marc >>> roleo at telus.net 01/01/03 10:45PM >>> Gentlemen! I recently bought a Dragon but it's still being being serviced so I haven't received it yet. However, I'm re-arranging my entertainment unit to make room for it. (I am also adding a new Marantz DVD player - DV4300 - as well as a new TASCAM CD-RW2000 Pro CD recorder to my system, so I'm very excited about my new additions.) My Dragon will join my recently serviced 680ZX so I'm set in the cassette department I believe. However I need someone who has a Dragon to tell me the exact height of the unit. The manual says 5 5/16". Does that include the feet or is that just the dimensions of the unit's housing / faceplate? If not what is the exact height of the Dragon from shelf to the top of the unit? Measurements either in inches or cm will be fine. Any help would be appreciated. Thanx, Roland ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient/s. If you are not the intended recipient, you cannot use, copy, distribute, disclose or retain the email or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying to this message and to permanently delete it and all attachments from your computer. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present in this email and the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. From samithas at srilankan.lk Thu Jan 2 08:05:43 2003 From: samithas at srilankan.lk (Samitha Samaraweera) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 13:05:43 +0600 Subject: [naktalk] Nak ZX-7 Owners Unite!!! Message-ID: Greetings....... Its nice to hear that ZX7 is used by many. I also own a ZX9, the improved ZX7. Both are considered as good machines by Nak fans. Best Regards Samitha -----Original Message----- From: The BlueSwapper [mailto:blueswapper at angelfire.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 6:02 AM To: NakChatt at yahoogroups.com; naktalk at naks.com Cc: blueswapper at angelfire.com Subject: [naktalk] Nak ZX-7 Owners Unite!!! Greetings..... I'd like to bring together those who possess a Nak ZX-7 cassette deck, and who wishes to discuss technical specifics and/or exchange information. Particularly, I'd like to find other collectors who enjoy using the Nak ZX-7, its many useful manual control features, and to share methods to get the most out of utilizing our superb analogue cassette decks. I've got a full technical review article from Audio Magazine (May 1982) and users/service manuals to share. Without recent success, I've been searching for an original Nak ZX-7 infomational sales brochure (full color version). Anyone have that brochure available to photo copy or digitally scan? Email me directly to make contact. Best regards, and happy holidays!!! K.J. Bleus Madison, Wisc USA --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From jmueller4 at earthlink.net Thu Jan 2 08:19:43 2003 From: jmueller4 at earthlink.net (Jim Mueller) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 02:19:43 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions Needed References: <004b01c2b0e8$6cca6560$8b05fad5@dusan> <3E121887.E4B86A02@rcn.com> <000701c2b1d6$a8ced480$05a2b742@desktop> Message-ID: <003e01c2b22f$551ce800$a4c661d8@primeevil> The height of my Dragon is a hair more than 5 1/4", including feet - so the manual is including the feet in the height dimension. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roland Alford" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 3:45 PM Subject: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions Needed > Gentlemen! > > I recently bought a Dragon but it's still being being serviced so I haven't > received it yet. However, I'm re-arranging my entertainment unit to make > room for it. (I am also adding a new Marantz DVD player - DV4300 - as well > as a new TASCAM CD-RW2000 Pro CD recorder to my system, so I'm very excited > about my new additions.) > > My Dragon will join my recently serviced 680ZX so I'm set in the cassette > department I believe. > > However I need someone who has a Dragon to tell me the exact height of the > unit. The manual says 5 5/16". Does that include the feet or is that just > the dimensions of the unit's housing / faceplate? If not what is the exact > height of the Dragon from shelf to the top of the unit? Measurements either > in inches or cm will be fine. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanx, > Roland > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From ereidinger at foresightcorp.com Thu Jan 2 14:07:01 2003 From: ereidinger at foresightcorp.com (Eric Reidinger) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 08:07:01 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC Message-ID: Hi John, Roxio has a split function that can be turned off, it looks for silence and then assumes it is a split, most people use this when they record from an LP and want the tool to put in the track breaks, I have never had great success with it and gave up trying to use it. I would turn it off and then listen to the file while recording and manually split them. If you are peaking in the green then the recording level is tool low. You don't want to go into the red since this will produce an ungodley distortion but you should get into the last yellow bar at the highest volume point in the file you are trying to record. As a rule the level has nothing to do with the split but you can try it. Depending on how much of this you will be doing will dictate what other tools you may want to invest in. There is a great set of recording tools put out by digitools, www.digitools.com I think. the entire package of tools is about $300 to $400 US, but it gives you millisecond control using the wave signature as a guide. The nice thing is the control over volume, depth of presence, and other efforts. For Voice I would just turn off the split function in Spin Doctor and start and stop it manually at the naturally occuring break points in the recording, much as you would do if you were producing an reel to reel or cassette recording. Hope this helps. Eric -----Original Message----- From: John M. Tooley [mailto:jmtooley at ce.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 4:29 PM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC Eric, I'm getting many "split" .wav files, even on the same piece of musical. What produces splits, recording level? I peaked with the green leds but beyond that are three yellow bars before a red bar. Perhaps if my levels were slightly higher she wouldn't split! John T. ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Reidinger To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 11:10 AM Subject: RE: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC Hi John, If you are using Roxio Easy CD creator 5.X then simply bring up the main splash screen and choose audio CD project, it will bring up a secondary screen where you select the WAV file location from your HD and then simply hit the record button - it is a red button to bring up the record options. I am assuming you have a cd burner attached to your PC. For creating an MP3 I use a seperate program that is freeware from TUCOWS, www.tucows.com, called DBPOWERAMP to do the conversion, it works better than the one utility that is included in the Roxio package. Convert the WAV to the MP3 (LAME) and then select off the Roxio main splashscreen - MP3 project. it will bring up the select MP3 option and then select record button and it will create the MP3 project for you on the CD. If you need more simply let me know. Regards, Eric -----Original Message----- From: John M. Tooley [mailto:jmtooley at ce.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 10:54 AM To: reeltoreel at yahoogroups.com Cc: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC I want to copy a deceased friends voice from cassette to CD. So ReVox B 215 to Creative Sound Blaster Augigy Soundcard to Roxio Easy CD Creator 5.3.2.34a / Spin Doctor which then I believe copies everything as a .wav file to my H/D. If this is so far correct do I then burn CD using the large .wav file or convert to MP3? Any and all help would be much appreciated. John -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmtooley at ce.net Thu Jan 2 15:51:46 2003 From: jmtooley at ce.net (John M. Tooley) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 09:51:46 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC References: Message-ID: <005c01c2b26e$79438510$5f106343@johnnyrotten> Eric, Got it, thank you. I'll go see if I can find that split switch. Cheers, John T. ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Reidinger To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 8:07 AM Subject: RE: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC Hi John, Roxio has a split function that can be turned off, it looks for silence and then assumes it is a split, most people use this when they record from an LP and want the tool to put in the track breaks, I have never had great success with it and gave up trying to use it. I would turn it off and then listen to the file while recording and manually split them. If you are peaking in the green then the recording level is tool low. You don't want to go into the red since this will produce an ungodley distortion but you should get into the last yellow bar at the highest volume point in the file you are trying to record. As a rule the level has nothing to do with the split but you can try it. Depending on how much of this you will be doing will dictate what other tools you may want to invest in. There is a great set of recording tools put out by digitools, www.digitools.com I think. the entire package of tools is about $300 to $400 US, but it gives you millisecond control using the wave signature as a guide. The nice thing is the control over volume, depth of presence, and other efforts. For Voice I would just turn off the split function in Spin Doctor and start and stop it manually at the naturally occuring break points in the recording, much as you would do if you were producing an reel to reel or cassette recording. Hope this helps. Eric -----Original Message----- From: John M. Tooley [mailto:jmtooley at ce.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 4:29 PM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC Eric, I'm getting many "split" .wav files, even on the same piece of musical. What produces splits, recording level? I peaked with the green leds but beyond that are three yellow bars before a red bar. Perhaps if my levels were slightly higher she wouldn't split! John T. ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Reidinger To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 11:10 AM Subject: RE: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC Hi John, If you are using Roxio Easy CD creator 5.X then simply bring up the main splash screen and choose audio CD project, it will bring up a secondary screen where you select the WAV file location from your HD and then simply hit the record button - it is a red button to bring up the record options. I am assuming you have a cd burner attached to your PC. For creating an MP3 I use a seperate program that is freeware from TUCOWS, www.tucows.com, called DBPOWERAMP to do the conversion, it works better than the one utility that is included in the Roxio package. Convert the WAV to the MP3 (LAME) and then select off the Roxio main splashscreen - MP3 project. it will bring up the select MP3 option and then select record button and it will create the MP3 project for you on the CD. If you need more simply let me know. Regards, Eric -----Original Message----- From: John M. Tooley [mailto:jmtooley at ce.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 10:54 AM To: reeltoreel at yahoogroups.com Cc: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC I want to copy a deceased friends voice from cassette to CD. So ReVox B 215 to Creative Sound Blaster Augigy Soundcard to Roxio Easy CD Creator 5.3.2.34a / Spin Doctor which then I believe copies everything as a .wav file to my H/D. If this is so far correct do I then burn CD using the large .wav file or convert to MP3? Any and all help would be much appreciated. John -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ereidinger at foresightcorp.com Thu Jan 2 16:07:03 2003 From: ereidinger at foresightcorp.com (Eric Reidinger) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 10:07:03 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC Message-ID: Hi John, When you bring up Spin Doctor there should be an options switch and to the best of my recollection there are 4 or 5 settings you can adjust, pop and hiss, split and 2 others. Since most of what I do invloves recording from LP and the like I went out and procured a TEAC CD recorder for my use. Good luck and Happy New Year. Eric -----Original Message----- From: John M. Tooley [mailto:jmtooley at ce.net] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 9:52 AM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC Eric, Got it, thank you. I'll go see if I can find that split switch. Cheers, John T. ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Reidinger To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 8:07 AM Subject: RE: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC Hi John, Roxio has a split function that can be turned off, it looks for silence and then assumes it is a split, most people use this when they record from an LP and want the tool to put in the track breaks, I have never had great success with it and gave up trying to use it. I would turn it off and then listen to the file while recording and manually split them. If you are peaking in the green then the recording level is tool low. You don't want to go into the red since this will produce an ungodley distortion but you should get into the last yellow bar at the highest volume point in the file you are trying to record. As a rule the level has nothing to do with the split but you can try it. Depending on how much of this you will be doing will dictate what other tools you may want to invest in. There is a great set of recording tools put out by digitools, www.digitools.com I think. the entire package of tools is about $300 to $400 US, but it gives you millisecond control using the wave signature as a guide. The nice thing is the control over volume, depth of presence, and other efforts. For Voice I would just turn off the split function in Spin Doctor and start and stop it manually at the naturally occuring break points in the recording, much as you would do if you were producing an reel to reel or cassette recording. Hope this helps. Eric -----Original Message----- From: John M. Tooley [mailto:jmtooley at ce.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 4:29 PM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC Eric, I'm getting many "split" .wav files, even on the same piece of musical. What produces splits, recording level? I peaked with the green leds but beyond that are three yellow bars before a red bar. Perhaps if my levels were slightly higher she wouldn't split! John T. ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Reidinger To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 11:10 AM Subject: RE: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC Hi John, If you are using Roxio Easy CD creator 5.X then simply bring up the main splash screen and choose audio CD project, it will bring up a secondary screen where you select the WAV file location from your HD and then simply hit the record button - it is a red button to bring up the record options. I am assuming you have a cd burner attached to your PC. For creating an MP3 I use a seperate program that is freeware from TUCOWS, www.tucows.com, called DBPOWERAMP to do the conversion, it works better than the one utility that is included in the Roxio package. Convert the WAV to the MP3 (LAME) and then select off the Roxio main splashscreen - MP3 project. it will bring up the select MP3 option and then select record button and it will create the MP3 project for you on the CD. If you need more simply let me know. Regards, Eric -----Original Message----- From: John M. Tooley [mailto:jmtooley at ce.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 10:54 AM To: reeltoreel at yahoogroups.com Cc: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC I want to copy a deceased friends voice from cassette to CD. So ReVox B 215 to Creative Sound Blaster Augigy Soundcard to Roxio Easy CD Creator 5.3.2.34a / Spin Doctor which then I believe copies everything as a .wav file to my H/D. If this is so far correct do I then burn CD using the large .wav file or convert to MP3? Any and all help would be much appreciated. John -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roleo at telus.net Thu Jan 2 16:14:33 2003 From: roleo at telus.net (Roland Alford) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 07:14:33 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions Needed References: <004b01c2b0e8$6cca6560$8b05fad5@dusan> <3E121887.E4B86A02@rcn.com> <000701c2b1d6$a8ced480$05a2b742@desktop> <003e01c2b22f$551ce800$a4c661d8@primeevil> Message-ID: <000d01c2b271$a7be7280$05a2b742@desktop> Thanx very much Jim! Much appreciated. Roland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Mueller" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions Needed > The height of my Dragon is a hair more than 5 1/4", including feet - so the > manual is including the feet in the height dimension. > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roland Alford" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 3:45 PM > Subject: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions Needed > > > > Gentlemen! > > > > I recently bought a Dragon but it's still being being serviced so I > haven't > > received it yet. However, I'm re-arranging my entertainment unit to make > > room for it. (I am also adding a new Marantz DVD player - DV4300 - as > well > > as a new TASCAM CD-RW2000 Pro CD recorder to my system, so I'm very > excited > > about my new additions.) > > > > My Dragon will join my recently serviced 680ZX so I'm set in the cassette > > department I believe. > > > > However I need someone who has a Dragon to tell me the exact height of the > > unit. The manual says 5 5/16". Does that include the feet or is that > just > > the dimensions of the unit's housing / faceplate? If not what is the > exact > > height of the Dragon from shelf to the top of the unit? Measurements > either > > in inches or cm will be fine. > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > Thanx, > > Roland > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > From mariano at starnet.net.ph Thu Jan 2 16:31:05 2003 From: mariano at starnet.net.ph (Mariano L. Honrado, Jr.) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 23:31:05 +0800 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions Needed References: <004b01c2b0e8$6cca6560$8b05fad5@dusan> <3E121887.E4B86A02@rcn.com> <000701c2b1d6$a8ced480$05a2b742@desktop> <003e01c2b22f$551ce800$a4c661d8@primeevil> Message-ID: <000c01c2b274$126a9300$530ab0cb@honrado7ignxhf> Hello Jim and Roland: I'm looking at my Dragon and my ruler says a hair LESS than 5-3/4 inches (14.5 centimeters) from shelf to top of the unit. The manual is dead spot on 5-5/16 inches on the faceplace height alone. Hope this helps (or I need new glasses!). Cheers! Mariano ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Mueller" To: Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions Needed > The height of my Dragon is a hair more than 5 1/4", including feet - so the > manual is including the feet in the height dimension. > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roland Alford" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 3:45 PM > Subject: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions Needed > > > > Gentlemen! > > > > I recently bought a Dragon but it's still being being serviced so I > haven't > > received it yet. However, I'm re-arranging my entertainment unit to make > > room for it. (I am also adding a new Marantz DVD player - DV4300 - as > well > > as a new TASCAM CD-RW2000 Pro CD recorder to my system, so I'm very > excited > > about my new additions.) > > > > My Dragon will join my recently serviced 680ZX so I'm set in the cassette > > department I believe. > > > > However I need someone who has a Dragon to tell me the exact height of the > > unit. The manual says 5 5/16". Does that include the feet or is that > just > > the dimensions of the unit's housing / faceplate? If not what is the > exact > > height of the Dragon from shelf to the top of the unit? Measurements > either > > in inches or cm will be fine. > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > Thanx, > > Roland > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roleo at telus.net Thu Jan 2 16:39:11 2003 From: roleo at telus.net (Roland Alford) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 07:39:11 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions Needed References: <004b01c2b0e8$6cca6560$8b05fad5@dusan> <3E121887.E4B86A02@rcn.com> <000701c2b1d6$a8ced480$05a2b742@desktop> <003e01c2b22f$551ce800$a4c661d8@primeevil> <000c01c2b274$126a9300$530ab0cb@honrado7ignxhf> Message-ID: <002d01c2b275$191c0660$05a2b742@desktop> That's interesting! I wonder if some decks came with "low profile" feet? I know some manufacturers do that with decks that are built for rack mounting. Jim was yours such a deck by chance? Roland ----- Original Message ----- From: Mariano L. Honrado, Jr. To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 7:31 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions Needed Hello Jim and Roland: I'm looking at my Dragon and my ruler says a hair LESS than 5-3/4 inches (14.5 centimeters) from shelf to top of the unit. The manual is dead spot on 5-5/16 inches on the faceplace height alone. Hope this helps (or I need new glasses!). Cheers! Mariano ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Mueller" To: Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions Needed > The height of my Dragon is a hair more than 5 1/4", including feet - so the > manual is including the feet in the height dimension. > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roland Alford" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 3:45 PM > Subject: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions Needed > > > > Gentlemen! > > > > I recently bought a Dragon but it's still being being serviced so I > haven't > > received it yet. However, I'm re-arranging my entertainment unit to make > > room for it. (I am also adding a new Marantz DVD player - DV4300 - as > well > > as a new TASCAM CD-RW2000 Pro CD recorder to my system, so I'm very > excited > > about my new additions.) > > > > My Dragon will join my recently serviced 680ZX so I'm set in the cassette > > department I believe. > > > > However I need someone who has a Dragon to tell me the exact height of the > > unit. The manual says 5 5/16". Does that include the feet or is that > just > > the dimensions of the unit's housing / faceplate? If not what is the > exact > > height of the Dragon from shelf to the top of the unit? Measurements > either > > in inches or cm will be fine. > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > Thanx, > > Roland > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From John at jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk Thu Jan 2 17:17:25 2003 From: John at jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk (John Walker) Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 16:17:25 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC References: Message-ID: <3E146615.1050700@jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk> Eric wrote: "Hi John, Roxio has a split function that can be turned off, it looks for silence and then assumes it is a split, most people use this when they record from an LP and want the tool to put in the track breaks, I have never had great success with it and gave up trying to use it. I would turn it off and then listen to the file while recording and manually split them. If you are peaking in the green then the recording level is tool low. You don't want to go into the red since this will produce an ungodley distortion but you should get into the last yellow bar at the highest volume point in the file you are trying to record. As a rule the level has nothing to do with the split but you can try it. Depending on how much of this you will be doing will dictate what other tools you may want to invest in. There is a great set of recording tools put out by digitools, www.digitools.com I think. the entire package of tools is about $300 to $400 US, but it gives you millisecond control using the wave signature as a guide. The nice thing is the control over volume, depth of presence, and other efforts. For Voice I would just turn off the split function in Spin Doctor and start and stop it manually at the naturally occuring break points in the recording, much as you would do if you were producing an reel to reel or cassette recording. Hope this helps. Eric" Syntrillium's CoolEdit 2000 does the same job - it allows you to set split points manually to considerable precision. It also has a facility that automatically creates each .WAV file for you once you have manually marked the points at which you wish to split tracks. Finally, it costs quite a lot less - USD80 or so. (I have no connection with Syntrillium, by the way) John Walker From jmueller4 at earthlink.net Thu Jan 2 20:23:17 2003 From: jmueller4 at earthlink.net (jmueller4 at earthlink.net) Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 11:23:17 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions Needed Message-ID: Mine is an American unit, purchased in the late 80's, and is not rackmountable so far as I can tell. I'm not at home right now, but can get details later. My feet, er, my Dragon's feet more specifically, are made from black rubber and are circular. On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 07:39:11 -0800 Roland Alford wrote: > That's interesting!� I wonder if some > decks > came with "low profile" feet?� I know some > manufacturers do that with decks > that are built for rack mounting.� Jim was > yours such a deck by > chance? > � > Roland > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > href="mailto:mariano at starnet.net.ph">Mariano > L. Honrado, Jr. > To: > href="mailto:naktalk at naks.com">naktalk at naks.com > > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 7:31 > AM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions > Needed > > Hello Jim and Roland: > � > I'm looking at my Dragon and my ruler says a > hair > LESS than 5-3/4 inches (14.5 centimeters) > from shelf to top > of the unit. > � > The manual is dead spot�on 5-5/16 > inches�on the faceplace height alone. > � > Hope this helps (or I need new > glasses!). > � > Cheers! > � > Mariano > � > � > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Mueller" < > href="mailto:jmueller4 at earthlink.net">jmueller4 at earthlink.net> > To: < > href="mailto:naktalk at naks.com">naktalk at naks.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 3:19 > PM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions > Needed > > The height of my Dragon is a hair more > than 5 1/4", including feet > - so the> manual is including the feet in > the height dimension.> > > Jim> > ----- Original Message > -----> From: > "Roland Alford" < href="mailto:roleo at telus.net">roleo at telus.net>> > To: > < href="mailto:naktalk at naks.com">naktalk at naks.com>> > Sent: > Wednesday, January 01, 2003 3:45 PM> > Subject: [naktalk] Dragon > Dimensions Needed> > > > > Gentlemen!> > >> > I recently bought a Dragon but > it's still being being > serviced so I> haven't> > received > it yet.� However, I'm > re-arranging my entertainment unit to > make> > room for it.� (I > am also adding a new Marantz DVD player - > DV4300 - as> well> > > as a new TASCAM CD-RW2000 Pro CD > recorder to my system, so I'm > very> excited> > about my new > additions.)> > >> > My Dragon will join my recently > serviced 680ZX so I'm set in > the cassette> > department I > believe.> >> > > However I need someone who has a Dragon to > tell me the exact height of > the> > unit.� The manual says 5 > 5/16".� Does that include > the feet or is that> just> > the > dimensions of the unit's > housing / faceplate?� If not what is > the> exact> > > height of the Dragon from shelf to the top of > the unit?� > Measurements> either> > in inches or > cm will be fine.> > >> > Any help would be > appreciated.> >> > > Thanx,> > Roland> >> >> > >> > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------==> > > =======> > > >��������������������������� > > href="mailto:Naktalk at naks.com">Naktalk at naks.com > mailinglist> > > To maintain your account please go > here:> > href="http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk">http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk> > >> > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------==> > > =======> > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------=========> > > > �������������������������� > > href="mailto:Naktalk at naks.com">Naktalk at naks.com > mailinglist> > To maintain your account please go here: > href="http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk">http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk> > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------=========> > > > From alex at autoconsortium.com Thu Jan 2 20:57:50 2003 From: alex at autoconsortium.com (Alex Cagann) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 14:57:50 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions Needed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: When you check tonight, I think you'll find they are hard plastic with a tiny rubber spot on the bottom. If not, then there are rubber feet out there as well, and very well may be the reason for height differences. My RX505 has the same feet as my Dragon and the 505 was built in 84. Alex Cagann > Mine is an American unit, purchased in the late 80's, and is not > rackmountable > so far as I can tell. I'm not at home right now, but can get > details later. My > feet, er, my Dragon's feet more specifically, are made from black > rubber and > are circular. From sambarr at netzero.net Thu Jan 2 03:14:08 2003 From: sambarr at netzero.net (samuelbarr@hotmail.com) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 20:14:08 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Happy New Year References: <009201c2b1bb$c4559920$52106343@johnnyrotten> Message-ID: Happy New Year to you all! May 2003 be full of joy and prosperity for you all! -Sam ----- Original Message ----- From: "John M. Tooley" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Happy New Year > Same to you feller! Lets get back to Naktalk in a big way in 2003! > > John T. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Hugo" > To: ; > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 2:57 AM > Subject: [naktalk] Happy New Year > > > > To all naktalkers and naktree members, have a great New Year and may 2003 > be everything you hope for. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Marc > > > > The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject > > to legal privilege. 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I didn't check the durometer of the material last night. It appears to have been manufactured in autumn of 1989, judging by the circle with the 89 in the center, and the 7-8-9 on the top half of it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Cagann" To: Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 2:57 PM Subject: RE: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions Needed > When you check tonight, I think you'll find they are hard plastic with a > tiny rubber spot on the bottom. If not, then there are rubber feet out there > as well, and very well may be the reason for height differences. My RX505 > has the same feet as my Dragon and the 505 was built in 84. > > Alex Cagann > > > Mine is an American unit, purchased in the late 80's, and is not > > rackmountable > > so far as I can tell. I'm not at home right now, but can get > > details later. My > > feet, er, my Dragon's feet more specifically, are made from black > > rubber and > > are circular. > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From roleo at telus.net Fri Jan 3 01:28:20 2003 From: roleo at telus.net (Roland Alford) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 16:28:20 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions Needed References: <000c01c2b2bc$e876a2c0$c0d261d8@primeevil> Message-ID: <000901c2b2bf$04f1ac40$05a2b742@desktop> Jim, that deck must have been a deck designed for rack mounting. If you check the Nak.com website it shows that some models of Dragon were designed to have the 19" rackmount ear's added. Maybe it was an option, but that probably accounts for the difference. Thanx guys for your help. Only problem is, I don't which mine will be! Oh well! Back to square one...I'll e-mail the seller. --Roland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Mueller" To: Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions Needed > You're right - they're hard plastic, with a smooth piece of adhesive > covering what appears to be black felt cloth. I didn't check the durometer > of the material last night. > > It appears to have been manufactured in autumn of 1989, judging by the > circle with the 89 in the center, and the 7-8-9 on the top half of it. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alex Cagann" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 2:57 PM > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions Needed > > > > When you check tonight, I think you'll find they are hard plastic with a > > tiny rubber spot on the bottom. If not, then there are rubber feet out > there > > as well, and very well may be the reason for height differences. My RX505 > > has the same feet as my Dragon and the 505 was built in 84. > > > > Alex Cagann > > > > > Mine is an American unit, purchased in the late 80's, and is not > > > rackmountable > > > so far as I can tell. I'm not at home right now, but can get > > > details later. My > > > feet, er, my Dragon's feet more specifically, are made from black > > > rubber and > > > are circular. > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > From jmueller4 at earthlink.net Fri Jan 3 02:16:31 2003 From: jmueller4 at earthlink.net (Jim Mueller) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:16:31 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions Needed References: <000c01c2b2bc$e876a2c0$c0d261d8@primeevil> <000901c2b2bf$04f1ac40$05a2b742@desktop> Message-ID: <001c01c2b2c5$c161f8c0$c0d261d8@primeevil> I'm not convinced that I have the rackmountable version. I was hoping naks.com would show a sample of what one would look like with either rails or mounted. Wish I would have known about the ears when they were still available. They'd get just as much use as that wired remote control! I have two amps which have extended faceplates for rackmounting and removeable handles. The width of the Dragon is wider than the chassis of both amps, and I believe that the front bolt holes would be very close to the bend of an L-bracket to mount in the same rack as the amps. Of course, I'm not all that familiar with rack mount audio; more familiar with rackmount servers. So, perhaps my thoughts are flawed...it has happened before :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roland Alford" To: Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions Needed > Jim, that deck must have been a deck designed for rack mounting. > > If you check the Nak.com website it shows that some models of Dragon were > designed to have the 19" rackmount ear's added. Maybe it was an option, but > that probably accounts for the difference. > > Thanx guys for your help. Only problem is, I don't which mine will be! > > Oh well! Back to square one...I'll e-mail the seller. > > --Roland > > ---snip--- From ereidinger at foresightcorp.com Fri Jan 3 15:16:14 2003 From: ereidinger at foresightcorp.com (Eric Reidinger) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 09:16:14 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC Message-ID: Hi John, I have used cooledit and it is a great package, I like the wave display over digitools and I have no connection with any package, I should have put in this disclaimer before. Regards, Eric -----Original Message----- From: John Walker [mailto:John at jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 11:17 AM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC Eric wrote: "Hi John, Roxio has a split function that can be turned off, it looks for silence and then assumes it is a split, most people use this when they record from an LP and want the tool to put in the track breaks, I have never had great success with it and gave up trying to use it. I would turn it off and then listen to the file while recording and manually split them. If you are peaking in the green then the recording level is tool low. You don't want to go into the red since this will produce an ungodley distortion but you should get into the last yellow bar at the highest volume point in the file you are trying to record. As a rule the level has nothing to do with the split but you can try it. Depending on how much of this you will be doing will dictate what other tools you may want to invest in. There is a great set of recording tools put out by digitools, www.digitools.com I think. the entire package of tools is about $300 to $400 US, but it gives you millisecond control using the wave signature as a guide. The nice thing is the control over volume, depth of presence, and other efforts. For Voice I would just turn off the split function in Spin Doctor and start and stop it manually at the naturally occuring break points in the recording, much as you would do if you were producing an reel to reel or cassette recording. Hope this helps. Eric" Syntrillium's CoolEdit 2000 does the same job - it allows you to set split points manually to considerable precision. It also has a facility that automatically creates each .WAV file for you once you have manually marked the points at which you wish to split tracks. Finally, it costs quite a lot less - USD80 or so. (I have no connection with Syntrillium, by the way) John Walker ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From jmtooley at ce.net Fri Jan 3 18:05:14 2003 From: jmtooley at ce.net (John M. Tooley) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:05:14 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC References: Message-ID: <00f601c2b34a$4eb064d0$0c116343@johnnyrotten> I just d/l their 2000 with 30 day free use. After playing their demo Windows XP closes 2000 down. I uninstalled it, rebooted and d/l again, same thing! I'll call them. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Reidinger" To: Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 9:16 AM Subject: RE: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC > Hi John, > > I have used cooledit and it is a great package, I like the wave display over digitools and I have no connection with any package, I should have put in this disclaimer before. > > Regards, > > Eric > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Walker [mailto:John at jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 11:17 AM > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC > > > Eric wrote: > "Hi John, > > Roxio has a split function that can be turned off, it looks for silence > and then assumes it is a split, most people use this when they record > from an LP and want the tool to put in the track breaks, I have never > had great success with it and gave up trying to use it. I would turn it > off and then listen to the file while recording and manually split > them. If you are peaking in the green then the recording level is tool > low. You don't want to go into the red since this will produce an > ungodley distortion but you should get into the last yellow bar at the > highest volume point in the file you are trying to record. As a rule > the level has nothing to do with the split but you can try it. > > Depending on how much of this you will be doing will dictate what other > tools you may want to invest in. There is a great set of recording > tools put out by digitools, www.digitools.com > I think. the entire package of tools is about $300 to $400 US, but it > gives you millisecond control using the wave signature as a guide. The > nice thing is the control over volume, depth of presence, and other > efforts. For Voice I would just turn off the split function in Spin > Doctor and start and stop it manually at the naturally occuring break > points in the recording, much as you would do if you were producing an > reel to reel or cassette recording. > > Hope this helps. > > Eric" > > Syntrillium's CoolEdit 2000 does the same job - it allows you to set > split points manually to considerable precision. It also has a facility > that automatically creates each .WAV file for you once you have > manually marked the points at which you wish to split tracks. Finally, > it costs quite a lot less - USD80 or so. (I have no connection with > Syntrillium, by the way) > > John Walker > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Fri Jan 3 04:35:31 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:35:31 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Happy New Year Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E28@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Same to you mate. Happy 2003! -----Original Message----- From: Mark Hugo [mailto:Mhugo at sunint.co.za] Sent: Wednesday, 1 January 2003 6:57 To: naktalk at naks.com; naktree at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Happy New Year To all naktalkers and naktree members, have a great New Year and may 2003 be everything you hope for. Cheers, Marc The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient/s. If you are not the intended recipient, you cannot use, copy, distribute, disclose or retain the email or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying to this message and to permanently delete it and all attachments from your computer. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present in this email and the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From nicy at ya.com Fri Jan 3 19:46:14 2003 From: nicy at ya.com (JGascon) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 19:46:14 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Nak ZX-7 and ZX-9 Message-ID: <024201c2b358$677044a0$8f2b3b50@PcComunero> Hi all, I´m thinking of purchasing a ZX-7 or ZX-9. Is there anything I must know before chosing the unit?. Anything with the serial numbers, etc...? Have a nice New Year!! Regards from Spain Javier From kannan_s at vsnl.com Fri Jan 3 20:03:36 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 00:33:36 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] Nak ZX-7 and ZX-9 Message-ID: <20030103190336.804E8114914@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From naktalk at email.si Fri Jan 3 20:16:52 2003 From: naktalk at email.si (Dusan) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 20:16:52 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] European CR-7 S/N Message-ID: <000001c2b35c$d888c3c0$9905fad5@dusan> I need some help from owners of european CR-7s : I want to buy a CR-7E and seller said it is 8 years old - I know it can't be so "young" because Nakamichi stopped CR-7 production already in 1993. It's serial number is supposed to be 03040. If European serials are in the same line order with american numbers, this unit should be a very early version, perhaps without gear upgrade & the record eq correction modification. I would like to hear from owners of CR-7 european versions about their units s/n, production year and if they originaly had gear upgrade & the record eq correction modification. This info would be of great help. Do you know for a good and trustable person in Europe, who could service and calibrate my new Nak? Regards Dusan From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Fri Jan 3 20:43:35 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 02:43:35 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions Needed References: <000c01c2b2bc$e876a2c0$c0d261d8@primeevil> <000901c2b2bf$04f1ac40$05a2b742@desktop> <001c01c2b2c5$c161f8c0$c0d261d8@primeevil> Message-ID: <004a01c2b360$810adbc0$991a9bca@smarzuki> Happy belated new year 2003 to all naksters around the globe ! Just want to comment that the 45cm width of Dragon makes it unlikely for rack mounts. Not sure if it's the norm, but some of the rack mount units i saw have internal 'body' width of 43 cm (also the 68x). Anyway the faceplate height follows the manual at 5 5/16" (13.5 cm) and with the feet it is 5 11/16" (14.5 cm), exactly like Mariano's. Best regards, Salim SM Slightly off topic please? I have a Kenwood 550 turntable which 'marble' color has turned yellowish ... does anybody know any how to restore the color back to white ? Any special polishing compund sold in stores, maybe for corian ? Thanks much. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Mueller To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions Needed I'm not convinced that I have the rackmountable version. I was hoping naks.com would show a sample of what one would look like with either rails or mounted. Wish I would have known about the ears when they were still available. They'd get just as much use as that wired remote control! I have two amps which have extended faceplates for rackmounting and removeable handles. The width of the Dragon is wider than the chassis of both amps, and I believe that the front bolt holes would be very close to the bend of an L-bracket to mount in the same rack as the amps. Of course, I'm not all that familiar with rack mount audio; more familiar with rackmount servers. So, perhaps my thoughts are flawed...it has happened before :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roland Alford" To: Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions Needed > Jim, that deck must have been a deck designed for rack mounting. > > If you check the Nak.com website it shows that some models of Dragon were > designed to have the 19" rackmount ear's added. Maybe it was an option, but > that probably accounts for the difference. > > Thanx guys for your help. Only problem is, I don't which mine will be! > > Oh well! Back to square one...I'll e-mail the seller. > > --Roland > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Fri Jan 3 20:55:05 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 02:55:05 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] Nak ZX-7 and ZX-9 References: <20030103190336.804E8114914@webmail.vsnl.com> Message-ID: <005201c2b362$030632e0$991a9bca@smarzuki> Hi Javier, last time i remember you were in NYC area, are you on vacation in Spain ? Old stereo review (oops) guide says some higher grade capacitors used in 'super tuned' ZX9 ... somehow there are still plenty of orange caps left inside the ZX9 =). The more manual ZXs should give you less headache (and of course more user control) compared to other auto align Naks. I'm not aware of any ZX serial number differences and the service manual only shows one version of all boards. Best regards, Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: kannan_s at vsnl.com To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 2:03 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nak ZX-7 and ZX-9 If given a chance I would prefer ZX9 over ZX7 due to its excellent wow and flutter figure of its capstan Direct Drive motor. Caution on ZX9/ ZX7 Remove the two to three Orange caps in Bias Oscillator circuit and replace with recent polyuester caps. I expect the Orange caps on Dolby circuit as well would get in to nasty moods some time in future! Replace them as well. I have noticed these two problems on a mint ZX9!!! What surprise me is that the high prices they get on ebay even though CR7 and Dragons have plenty of better future for a price lesser than ZX9 ! I wonder whether "Super tuning" claim on ZX9 is a reason for it? Kannan nicy at ya.com wrote Hi all, I´m thinking of purchasing a ZX-7 or ZX-9. Is there anything I must know before chosing the unit?. Anything with the serial numbers, etc...? Have a nice New Year!! Regards from Spain Javier -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kannan_s at vsnl.com Fri Jan 3 20:57:57 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 01:27:57 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] European CR-7 S/N Message-ID: <20030103195757.C1EA211491A@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Fri Jan 3 21:19:59 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 03:19:59 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] Question References: Message-ID: <009c01c2b365$7d90b6e0$991a9bca@smarzuki> Hi Adam, The only thing i can be sure of is that the clicking sound came from naac motor trying its best to match the phase of recorded tone from rec head. The reason it didn't click on "level" test tone is that below approx 5 khz the naac still not working yet. At the bias' 15khz freq tone, the pb head started to self align and when it got out of range then there's the clacking sound. The first and easy step to troubleshoot would be to clean the heads / tape path esp rec head - say at one extreme half of the right channel on rec head is dirty / covered then there's no way the naac can match the phase of missing signal. Other than that you'd need to trace the naac signal path, and if the problem only occured on recording then it would be a much smaller area to look for ... hopefully there are some orange caps to blame ... =) Best regards, Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: Adam Yousuf To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 7:52 PM Subject: [naktalk] Question Hi everyone, I've had my Dragon for the last 2 years. It has been working perfectly fine until this week. Maybe it's the cold weather but whenever I do a Bias Calibration, I hear a slight whirring or electrical sound from the deck (not the speakers). When I do Level Calibration it's silent (there is a tone on the speakers but when I turn the Output to the lowest setting, there is no 'noise' like when I do a Bias Calibration. I did not notice it before and Bias Calibration is very tough now and I need to turn the Bias way up for the indicators to reach the Calibration level on the LEDs. I wonder if any of you have faced this issue or have knowledge on why this is happening and what I need to do to fix this? Thanks. Hope you all had a Merry X'mas and have a great New Years! Adam From alex at autoconsortium.com Fri Jan 3 21:23:15 2003 From: alex at autoconsortium.com (Alex Cagann) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:23:15 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions Needed In-Reply-To: <004a01c2b360$810adbc0$991a9bca@smarzuki> Message-ID: Hi Salim. On your 550 turntable, I would try 3M plastic polish in a dark gray bottle. Find it at your local auto parts store....another suitable plastic polish should do. Make sure there is a bit of grit in the compound...as this is necessary to restore that coloring. RE: the dragon width...my sentiments exactly. The Dragon is wider than standard width equipment...hell, I've had several audio cabinets in the past that the sucker wouldn't even fit in...which makes me curious as to how anyone ever mounted Dragons on racks with other 'normal' sized equipment. Alex Cagann http://www.autoconsortium.com Just want to comment that the 45cm width of Dragon makes it unlikely for rack mounts. Not sure if it's the norm, but some of the rack mount units i saw have internal 'body' width of 43 cm (also the 68x). Anyway the faceplate height follows the manual at 5 5/16" (13.5 cm) and with the feet it is 5 11/16" (14.5 cm), exactly like Mariano's. Best regards, Salim SM Slightly off topic please? I have a Kenwood 550 turntable which 'marble' color has turned yellowish ... does anybody know any how to restore the color back to white ? Any special polishing compund sold in stores, maybe for corian ? Thanks much. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Fri Jan 3 21:48:23 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 03:48:23 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon ... and plastic polish References: Message-ID: <001801c2b369$75978f00$c6299bca@smarzuki> Thanks Alex, so far I've only tried autosol (the wd40 of polishing compund =) with no luck. That material was very stubborn, looks like it was made of real stones mixed with cement. Maybe sandblasting the kenwood is a good idea. I'll find and try that 3M plastic polish soon. Interestingly I just successfully buffed a horrible looking plastic (lexan ?) cover of another table, using 500-1000-1500 grit and finally autosol... it was absolutely amazing ! Just like a brand new cover. Best regards, Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: Alex Cagann To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 3:23 AM Subject: RE: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions Needed Hi Salim. On your 550 turntable, I would try 3M plastic polish in a dark gray bottle. Find it at your local auto parts store....another suitable plastic polish should do. Make sure there is a bit of grit in the compound...as this is necessary to restore that coloring. RE: the dragon width...my sentiments exactly. The Dragon is wider than standard width equipment...hell, I've had several audio cabinets in the past that the sucker wouldn't even fit in...which makes me curious as to how anyone ever mounted Dragons on racks with other 'normal' sized equipment. Alex Cagann http://www.autoconsortium.com From alex at autoconsortium.com Fri Jan 3 22:31:03 2003 From: alex at autoconsortium.com (Alex Cagann) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 16:31:03 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon ... and plastic polish In-Reply-To: <001801c2b369$75978f00$c6299bca@smarzuki> Message-ID: Salim....autosol is EXCELLENT german stuff. I'd venture to say that if that didn't work, neither will the 3M polish. Yep, I've got some autosol here at the shop....couldn't live without it! Sanblasting would be sure to fix it....might try using walnut shells instead of sand....you may even try soaking the casing in Oxy Clean or perhaps even a baking soda solution...if you are able to separate the electronics and stuff from the case. Alex Cagann http://www.autoconsortium.com > Thanks Alex, so far I've only tried autosol (the wd40 of polishing compund > =) with no luck. That material was very stubborn, looks like it > was made of > real stones mixed with cement. Maybe sandblasting the kenwood is a good > idea. I'll find and try that 3M plastic polish soon. > > Interestingly I just successfully buffed a horrible looking plastic (lexan > ?) cover of another table, using 500-1000-1500 grit and finally autosol... > it was absolutely amazing ! Just like a brand new cover. > > Best regards, > Salim SM From ra.ah at rcn.com Fri Jan 3 22:46:16 2003 From: ra.ah at rcn.com (Ron) Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 16:46:16 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] European CR-7 S/N References: <000001c2b35c$d888c3c0$9905fad5@dusan> Message-ID: <3E1604A8.2AB8A41B@rcn.com> Assuming a single list of serial numbers for all CR-7 decks, I suspect your deck was made sometime in late 1985 or early 1986 and is 16 or 17 years old. My own CR-7a, S/N 02835 (215 units before your S/N 03040) was made in the last quarter of 1985 (even though the Naks.com site says CR-7 production only started in 1986). As such, both the equalization and the gear modifications are in order (unless already done by a previous owner). I especially recommend the Eq mod -- there was audible sonic improvement in my deck. I did follow it with complete calibration (by Stephen, which I highly recommend), that further improved the sound. As to the gear mod -- it's a tradeoff between cost and convenience. If you wish to afford it, it's certainly worthwhile doing. -- Ron Dusan wrote: > > I need some help from owners of european CR-7s : I want to buy a CR-7E and > seller said it is 8 years old - I know it can't be so "young" because > Nakamichi stopped CR-7 production already in 1993. It's serial number is > supposed to be 03040. If European serials are in the same line order with > american numbers, this unit should be a very early version, perhaps without > gear upgrade & the record eq correction modification. > > I would like to hear from owners of CR-7 european versions about their units > s/n, production year and if they originaly had gear upgrade & the record eq > correction modification. This info would be of great help. > > Do you know for a good and trustable person in Europe, who could service and > calibrate my new Nak? > > Regards > > Dusan > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sat Jan 4 00:36:46 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 23:36:46 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] European CR-7 S/N In-Reply-To: <000001c2b35c$d888c3c0$9905fad5@dusan> Message-ID: <001601c2b380$fa8b1580$ed6d87d9@oemcomputer> Dusan For servicing the Nak' in Europe, try either: http://www.bowersandwilkins.co.uk/nakamichi/home.htmv (who you will find are in the UK) or TransTec bv Brugwachter 19 3034 KD Rotterdam tel +31-(0)10-4147055 Fax +31-(0)10-4113580 e-mail transtec at transtec.nl Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Dusan > Sent: 03 January 2003 19:17 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] European CR-7 S/N > > > I need some help from owners of european CR-7s : I want to buy a CR-7E and > seller said it is 8 years old - I know it can't be so "young" because > Nakamichi stopped CR-7 production already in 1993. It's serial number is > supposed to be 03040. If European serials are in the same line order with > american numbers, this unit should be a very early version, > perhaps without > gear upgrade & the record eq correction modification. > > I would like to hear from owners of CR-7 european versions about > their units > s/n, production year and if they originaly had gear upgrade & the > record eq > correction modification. This info would be of great help. > > Do you know for a good and trustable person in Europe, who could > service and > calibrate my new Nak? > > Regards > > Dusan > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 30/12/02 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 30/12/02 From nicy at ya.com Fri Jan 3 21:14:01 2003 From: nicy at ya.com (JGascon) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 21:14:01 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Nak ZX-7 and ZX-9 References: <20030103190336.804E8114914@webmail.vsnl.com> <005201c2b362$030632e0$991a9bca@smarzuki> Message-ID: <027401c2b364$abe04b60$8f2b3b50@PcComunero> Sorry but I´ve never been in NY. I´m from Spain. Thanks for your information Salim and Kannan. Javier ----- Original Message ----- From: Salim Marzuki To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nak ZX-7 and ZX-9 Hi Javier, last time i remember you were in NYC area, are you on vacation in Spain ? Old stereo review (oops) guide says some higher grade capacitors used in 'super tuned' ZX9 ... somehow there are still plenty of orange caps left inside the ZX9 =). The more manual ZXs should give you less headache (and of course more user control) compared to other auto align Naks. I'm not aware of any ZX serial number differences and the service manual only shows one version of all boards. Best regards, Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: kannan_s at vsnl.com To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 2:03 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nak ZX-7 and ZX-9 If given a chance I would prefer ZX9 over ZX7 due to its excellent wow and flutter figure of its capstan Direct Drive motor. Caution on ZX9/ ZX7 Remove the two to three Orange caps in Bias Oscillator circuit and replace with recent polyuester caps. I expect the Orange caps on Dolby circuit as well would get in to nasty moods some time in future! Replace them as well. I have noticed these two problems on a mint ZX9!!! What surprise me is that the high prices they get on ebay even though CR7 and Dragons have plenty of better future for a price lesser than ZX9 ! I wonder whether "Super tuning" claim on ZX9 is a reason for it? Kannan nicy at ya.com wrote Hi all, I´m thinking of purchasing a ZX-7 or ZX-9. Is there anything I must know before chosing the unit?. Anything with the serial numbers, etc...? Have a nice New Year!! Regards from Spain Javier -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Sat Jan 4 05:32:06 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 15:32:06 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Nak ZX-7 and ZX-9 Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E2A@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> I agree with Kannan on the orange cap problems. I suffered the two problems with my ZX9 - erase bias circuitry going bad & dolby circuit (c type) not working on one channel. I replaced the suspect caps and the unit has never had a problem since. Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: kannan_s at vsnl.com [mailto:kannan_s at vsnl.com] Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2003 6:04 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nak ZX-7 and ZX-9 If given a chance I would prefer ZX9 over ZX7 due to its excellent wow and flutter figure of its capstan Direct Drive motor. Caution on ZX9/ ZX7 Remove the two to three Orange caps in Bias Oscillator circuit and replace with recent polyuester caps. I expect the Orange caps on Dolby circuit as well would get in to nasty moods some time in future! Replace them as well. I have noticed these two problems on a mint ZX9!!! What surprise me is that the high prices they get on ebay even though CR7 and Dragons have plenty of better future for a price lesser than ZX9 ! I wonder whether "Super tuning" claim on ZX9 is a reason for it? Kannan nicy at ya.com wrote Hi all, I´m thinking of purchasing a ZX-7 or ZX-9. Is there anything I must know before chosing the unit?. Anything with the serial numbers, etc...? Have a nice New Year!! Regards from Spain Javier ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Sat Jan 4 05:43:52 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 15:43:52 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Idler problem. Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E2C@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Howdy all, hope you all have had a great new year. I have a small problem with my RX505. It seems that the small idler that sits between the two reel hubs is a little out of wack. Playback and recording is perfect, however, when I rewind of fast-forward the idle torque is not smooth. What happens is the tape "slaps" inside the casing as it's being re-wownd/fast-forwarded. Should I worry about this? Is this going to damage my tapes. I've compared this with my ZX9 & 480 which have the same type of mechanism and they are smooth as silk. If this does need attention what would you recommend to fix this small but annoying problem. Regards Tom Siomopoulos From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Sat Jan 4 18:22:39 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 00:22:39 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] Idler problem. References: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E2C@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Message-ID: <000c01c2b415$e266dc60$40299bca@smarzuki> Hi Tom, my 482 used to do that and i noticed there's a flat 'spot' on the hardened rubber. I'm lucky to be able to find an approx. similar diameter (although narrower) ring - but getting rubber out from the mechanism without breaking it was quite difficult. Why don't you use the 480 idler for your 505 and try to grind the flat spot out for the 480. Put deck in FF and slowly rub a sandpaper against the running idler - better use your 480 mechanism for this process as it has more open space inside. Best regards, Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Siomopoulos To: Naktalk mail list (E-mail) Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 11:43 AM Subject: [naktalk] Idler problem. Howdy all, hope you all have had a great new year. I have a small problem with my RX505. It seems that the small idler that sits between the two reel hubs is a little out of wack. Playback and recording is perfect, however, when I rewind of fast-forward the idle torque is not smooth. What happens is the tape "slaps" inside the casing as it's being re-wownd/fast-forwarded. Should I worry about this? Is this going to damage my tapes. I've compared this with my ZX9 & 480 which have the same type of mechanism and they are smooth as silk. If this does need attention what would you recommend to fix this small but annoying problem. Regards Tom Siomopoulos From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sat Jan 4 19:47:54 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 18:47:54 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Idler problem. In-Reply-To: <000c01c2b415$e266dc60$40299bca@smarzuki> Message-ID: <000301c2b421$cacabd40$075b87d9@oemcomputer> Suggest you use something like a nail board (wives usually have them!) and to try to use something within the deck to steady one end of the board so you may gentle lower the other end onto the running idler, just as if you were cutting something spinning on a lathe. Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Salim Marzuki > Sent: 04 January 2003 17:23 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Idler problem. > > > > Hi Tom, my 482 used to do that and i noticed there's a flat 'spot' on the > hardened rubber. I'm lucky to be able to find an approx. similar diameter > (although narrower) ring - but getting rubber out from the > mechanism without > breaking it was quite difficult. Why don't you use the 480 idler for your > 505 and try to grind the flat spot out for the 480. Put deck in FF and > slowly rub a sandpaper against the running idler - better use your 480 > mechanism for this process as it has more open space inside. > > Best regards, > Salim SM > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 30/12/02 From srudick at hotmail.com Sat Jan 4 20:51:39 2003 From: srudick at hotmail.com (Steve Rudick) Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 19:51:39 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Idler problem. Message-ID: Re: Nak RX-505 idler problem. Whether it's an idler problem or a back tension problem, forget the half baked solutions I'm reading on line (especially for an RX-505!) spend the money, and get it PROPERLY serviced by an authorized Nak service centre! 73, Steve Rudick/VE2FSQ Audiotech/Mtl., Que. Can. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sat Jan 4 23:10:38 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 22:10:38 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Idler problem. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001101c2b43e$1d047a80$075b87d9@oemcomputer> You're right, of course, Steve. But you assume that the parts are readily available. Nak spares are becoming rare, some as rare as hen's teeth and costing many times their weight in gold ... assuming optimistically they exist at all. And, given the premium on rare Nak spares, we are assuming that funds are available to pay the premium for a service and parts. Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Steve Rudick > Sent: 04 January 2003 19:52 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Idler problem. > > > > > > > Re: Nak RX-505 idler problem. > > Whether it's an idler problem or a back tension problem, forget the half > baked solutions I'm reading on line (especially for an RX-505!) spend the > money, and get it PROPERLY serviced by an authorized Nak service centre! > > 73, > > Steve Rudick/VE2FSQ > Audiotech/Mtl., Que. Can. > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 30/12/02 From ra.ah at rcn.com Sun Jan 5 00:55:13 2003 From: ra.ah at rcn.com (Ron) Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 18:55:13 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Idler problem. References: Message-ID: <3E177461.A877490C@rcn.com> Steve Rudick wrote: > > Re: Nak RX-505 idler problem. > > Whether it's an idler problem or a back tension problem, forget the half > baked solutions I'm reading on line I beg to differ. The suggested solutions are accepted methods of service. >(especially for an RX-505!) spend the > money, and get it PROPERLY serviced by an authorized Nak service centre! Why are you assuming that NakTalk members are not capable of PROPERLY servicing their equipment? Many of us are -- or used to be -- techs or engineers with many years of experience. Personally, I wouldn't let anyone touch my deck, unless forced to because adjustments require test equipment that I do not own (and unless the tech name is Stephen :-) ). A large part of the pleasure of this email list is the help, support and information exchange concerning technical problems. -- Ron From n.van.wijnen at home.nl Sun Jan 5 01:32:36 2003 From: n.van.wijnen at home.nl (norman van wijnen) Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 01:32:36 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] capacitor replacements Message-ID: <002201c2b451$f1dd5480$0200a7c0@AsusT533> Hi guys, i wonder what are the best replacement capacitors for the orange ones inside the ZX7 ? is there a picture of it so i can compare in the shop if i have the right parts? i own a nak zx7 and it has still all the original orange caps inside Norman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marrot at kornet.net Sun Jan 5 03:50:47 2003 From: marrot at kornet.net (KORNET) Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 11:50:47 +0900 Subject: [naktalk] Can anybody help me with DR1 Documentation ?? Message-ID: Hello everybody, I just purchased a used DR1 however without any Documentation. Does anybody out there have a catalogue, users manual or service manual ? I searched the web in vain, this model does not seem to be as popular as the other decks... Thanks a lot Martin (from Korea) From wheijke at xs4all.nl Sun Jan 5 14:59:39 2003 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 14:59:39 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Who needs what? Message-ID: <3E183A4B.458D5F37@xs4all.nl> I'm currently scanning my ZX7 brochure and owners manual (for Mr Bleus) and was wondering is people were in need for other brochure(s) and/or owners manual(s)... Tell us all what you need and who knows someone may have what you are looking for ;-) Wouter From amar152 at comcast.net Sun Jan 5 10:05:54 2003 From: amar152 at comcast.net (alan mar) Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 09:05:54 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Who needs what? In-Reply-To: <3E183A4B.458D5F37@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: Wouter- I am currently looking for manuals for the T100 analyzer. thanks! Alan on 1/5/03 1:59 PM, Wouter Heijke at wheijke at xs4all.nl wrote: > I'm currently scanning my ZX7 brochure and owners manual (for Mr Bleus) > and was wondering is people were in need for other brochure(s) and/or > owners manual(s)... > Tell us all what you need and who knows someone may have what you are > looking for ;-) > > Wouter > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------==== > ===== > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------==== > ===== From hzl88 at msn.com Sun Jan 5 19:08:15 2003 From: hzl88 at msn.com (marc) Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 13:08:15 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Who needs what? References: <3E183A4B.458D5F37@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <003f01c2b4e5$6c9e0140$962b1943@Marc> I have been looking for both a 550 and a DMP 100 owners or service manual for a long time. If anyone would has these scanned it would be greatly appreciated. I have Nak microphone manuals if anyone needs any copies. As more of a reader than poster, let me thank you guys for all your help and insight over the years, -Marc in NYC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wouter Heijke" To: Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 8:59 AM Subject: [naktalk] Who needs what? > I'm currently scanning my ZX7 brochure and owners manual (for Mr Bleus) > and was wondering is people were in need for other brochure(s) and/or > owners manual(s)... > Tell us all what you need and who knows someone may have what you are > looking for ;-) > > Wouter > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > From jmtooley at ce.net Sun Jan 5 19:12:18 2003 From: jmtooley at ce.net (John M. Tooley) Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 13:12:18 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Who needs what? References: <3E183A4B.458D5F37@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <005601c2b4e5$fc33f850$55116343@johnnyrotten> Wouter, Is there a Nak. 700 ZXL Manual available? John T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wouter Heijke" To: Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 8:59 AM Subject: [naktalk] Who needs what? > I'm currently scanning my ZX7 brochure and owners manual (for Mr Bleus) > and was wondering is people were in need for other brochure(s) and/or > owners manual(s)... > Tell us all what you need and who knows someone may have what you are > looking for ;-) > > Wouter > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > > From wheijke at xs4all.nl Sun Jan 5 22:45:31 2003 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 22:45:31 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] 'copies' of manuals on ebay Message-ID: <3E18A77B.40ACC4AD@xs4all.nl> More and more 'copies' of Nakamichi manuals appear on Ebay everyday, a link to manuals available on the support site is made easy. The reason i started to make these manuals available was to prevent this from happening, people having to pay 'suspicious' people for a copy of a manual for their beloved Nak deck... I was assured it wouldn't be a problem to Nakamichi if they weren't sold commercially... What i see is that people download everything from the support site, yes i know it is tempting... It is no problem to me if people use these manuals for own PRIVATE use at home.. but when copies appear on Ebay things get different.... So what to do? Right now i don't know... Wouter From wheijke at xs4all.nl Sun Jan 5 23:08:44 2003 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 23:08:44 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] New additions to support site Message-ID: <3E18ACEC.4BC4C42D@xs4all.nl> I'm making available the following manuals and brochures on the support site: - RX-202 and TD 500/700 brochures by Mr Blues - CR-7 service manual & RX202 owner's manual by Stephen Sank - DR1-2-3 owners manual, and brochure of the same deck by Javier - ZX7 brochures, 'new' Dragon brochure and 'new product lineup' brochures by me. Since brochures are 'hot' i think the best way to make those available is in JPG format since PDF files get way too big. Or someone may have a better idea... Enjoy! Wouter ps. I'm scanning my ZX7 owners manual, so expect that on the support site in a few days. From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sun Jan 5 23:41:17 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 22:41:17 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] 'copies' of manuals on ebay In-Reply-To: <3E18A77B.40ACC4AD@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <000701c2b50b$8f67afc0$216087d9@oemcomputer> Not wishing to interfere with free trade, I suggest we offer unsuccessful bidders the manuals for free. Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Wouter Heijke > Sent: 05 January 2003 21:46 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] 'copies' of manuals on ebay > > > More and more 'copies' of Nakamichi manuals appear on Ebay everyday, a > link to manuals available on the support site is made easy. > > The reason i started to make these manuals available was to prevent this > from happening, people having to pay 'suspicious' people for a copy of a > manual for their beloved Nak deck... I was assured it wouldn't be a > problem to Nakamichi if they weren't sold commercially... > > What i see is that people download everything from the support site, yes > i know it is tempting... It is no problem to me if people use these > manuals for own PRIVATE use at home.. but when copies appear on Ebay > things get different.... > > So what to do? > > Right now i don't know... > > Wouter > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 30/12/02 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 30/12/02 From n.van.wijnen at home.nl Mon Jan 6 00:07:36 2003 From: n.van.wijnen at home.nl (norman van wijnen) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 00:07:36 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] 'copies' of manuals on ebay References: <000701c2b50b$8f67afc0$216087d9@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <000d01c2b50f$3c6760a0$0200a7c0@AsusT533> Hi, well i think that some manuals have my name on it as creator , i 'am not sure if thats a good idea Norman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Nelson" To: Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 11:41 Subject: RE: [naktalk] 'copies' of manuals on ebay > Not wishing to interfere with free trade, I suggest we offer unsuccessful > bidders the manuals for free. > > Gra' > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > Wouter Heijke > > Sent: 05 January 2003 21:46 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: [naktalk] 'copies' of manuals on ebay > > > > > > More and more 'copies' of Nakamichi manuals appear on Ebay everyday, a > > link to manuals available on the support site is made easy. > > > > The reason i started to make these manuals available was to prevent this > > from happening, people having to pay 'suspicious' people for a copy of a > > manual for their beloved Nak deck... I was assured it wouldn't be a > > problem to Nakamichi if they weren't sold commercially... > > > > What i see is that people download everything from the support site, yes > > i know it is tempting... It is no problem to me if people use these > > manuals for own PRIVATE use at home.. but when copies appear on Ebay > > things get different.... > > > > So what to do? > > > > Right now i don't know... > > > > Wouter > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > > --------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > > --------========= > > > > --- > > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 30/12/02 > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 30/12/02 > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Mon Jan 6 01:33:58 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 00:33:58 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] 'copies' of manuals on ebay In-Reply-To: <000d01c2b50f$3c6760a0$0200a7c0@AsusT533> Message-ID: <000c01c2b51b$4d4e0b60$216087d9@oemcomputer> Hi Norman I didn't realise there were manuals created by members as yourself. I was meaning only those "official" Nakamichi manuals, as the ZX9 service manual and user manual that I sent to Wouter and which are now in the NakList library. Any others, as those you created, are your or their authors' copyright, of course, and rightly only yours (and theirs) to dispose of as you will. Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > norman van wijnen > Sent: 05 January 2003 23:08 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] 'copies' of manuals on ebay > > > Hi, > > well i think that some manuals have my name on it as creator , i 'am not > sure if thats a good idea > > Norman > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham Nelson" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 11:41 > Subject: RE: [naktalk] 'copies' of manuals on ebay > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 30/12/02 From eddy.pollet at pandora.be Mon Jan 6 18:11:37 2003 From: eddy.pollet at pandora.be (POLLET Eddy) Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 18:11:37 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk digest, Vol 1 #9 - 19 msgs In-Reply-To: <20030106001303.27517.54613.Mailman@zebra.naks.com> Message-ID: > What i see is that people download everything from the support site, yes > i know it is tempting... It is no problem to me if people use these > manuals for own PRIVATE use at home.. but when copies appear on Ebay > things get different.... > > So what to do? > Hi Wouter, I'd suggest to watermark them with something like "Courtesy of the Naktalk group", in a lighter shade of grey, diagonally over the page . Depending on the programs you have, you could use a grey gradient, to make it more difficult to remove . Eddy From ra.ah at rcn.com Mon Jan 6 18:42:09 2003 From: ra.ah at rcn.com (Ron) Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 12:42:09 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk digest, Vol 1 #9 - 19 msgs References: Message-ID: <3E19BFF1.63A8D14F@rcn.com> Seems to me, the easiest way to to provide the password only to people that are actually on the email list (or even, actually participate). -- Ron POLLET Eddy wrote: > > > > What i see is that people download everything from the support site, yes > > i know it is tempting... It is no problem to me if people use these > > manuals for own PRIVATE use at home.. but when copies appear on Ebay > > things get different.... > > > > So what to do? > > > > Hi Wouter, > > I'd suggest to watermark them with something like "Courtesy of the Naktalk > group", in a lighter shade of grey, diagonally over the page . Depending on > the programs you have, you could use a grey gradient, to make it more > difficult to remove . > > Eddy > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From n.van.wijnen at home.nl Mon Jan 6 21:51:17 2003 From: n.van.wijnen at home.nl (norman van wijnen) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 21:51:17 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] 'copies' of manuals on ebay References: <000c01c2b51b$4d4e0b60$216087d9@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <000a01c2b5c5$5bc0c520$0200a7c0@AsusT533> Hi Graham, no of course all the manuals are nakamichi copyrighted manuals, but after scanning some of them i made a mistake to fill in the author in the pdf scan software . (not a good idea i agree) and now i'am a little worried about commercial pdf files on ebay with my name on it as author. maybe i can remove that part of the pdf and upload them again. see what i can do greetings Norman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Nelson" To: Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:33 Subject: RE: [naktalk] 'copies' of manuals on ebay > Hi Norman > > I didn't realise there were manuals created by members as yourself. I was > meaning only those "official" Nakamichi manuals, as the ZX9 service manual > and user manual that I sent to Wouter and which are now in the NakList > library. Any others, as those you created, are your or their authors' > copyright, of course, and rightly only yours (and theirs) to dispose of as > you will. > > Gra' > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > norman van wijnen > > Sent: 05 January 2003 23:08 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] 'copies' of manuals on ebay > > > > > > Hi, > > > > well i think that some manuals have my name on it as creator , i 'am not > > sure if thats a good idea > > > > Norman > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Graham Nelson" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 11:41 > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] 'copies' of manuals on ebay > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 30/12/02 > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > From ezio_lucenti at tin.it Tue Jan 7 02:57:45 2003 From: ezio_lucenti at tin.it (Ezio) Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 02:57:45 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC In-Reply-To: <000e01c2b0e4$d4dc61c0$13116343@johnnyrotten> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030107025600.00a79c60@box.tin.it> Sorry for the delayed answer (holidays) ... you should burn the files = CD when in WAV . Thw quality it will be higher than MP3 (that must be converted into WAV anyhow to be written on CD in a ''playable'' way) Ezio At 10:53 AM 12/31/02 -0500, you wrote: >I want to copy a deceased friends voice from cassette to CD. So ReVox B >215 to Creative Sound Blaster Augigy Soundcard to Roxio Easy CD Creator >5.3.2.34a / Spin Doctor which then I believe copies everything as a .wav >file to my H/D. If this is so far correct do I then burn CD using the >large .wav file or convert to MP3? Any and all help would be much appreciated. > >John Sincerely Ezio Lucenti Ezio's e-photography site www.lucenti.com From ezio_lucenti at tin.it Tue Jan 7 03:21:09 2003 From: ezio_lucenti at tin.it (Ezio) Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 03:21:09 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] analogue to digital recording (it was off topic) In-Reply-To: <002e01c2b113$9dd51e40$4a116343@johnnyrotten> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030107030225.00a7d600@box.tin.it> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A basic cleaning and demag did little. After scrubbing the head considerably, the output is now much closer to the right channel in overall tone balance, but still noticeable. I would say at this point, the HF content of the left channel is about 80% of the right. Should I just continue to clean the head until I reach a suitable match? The haze and speckles still seem to be there and I have really cleaned quite a bit. Is this a really odd amount of head cleaning to do? Can anyone give me their .02 on this situation? Much obliged, Mike From kannan_s at vsnl.com Tue Jan 7 07:23:32 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 11:53:32 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] capacitor replacements Message-ID: <20030107062332.371A21149C7@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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Name: not available URL: From nicy at ya.com Tue Jan 7 10:49:28 2003 From: nicy at ya.com (JGascon) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 10:49:28 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem References: <20030107064411.ED1C5114916@webmail.vsnl.com> Message-ID: <003601c2b632$16fa07e0$8f2b3b50@PcComunero> Hi Kannan. Where can I purchase the isopropyl alcohol? Javier ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 7:44 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem > > Mike > First of all what sort of cleaning you mention? Both playback as well as record heads are very precious of any Nak and clean only with soft cotton cloth soaked in Isopropyl alcohol ( you can use Paint thinner carefully - called MEK solution as Per Stephen and I believe that should be a proven method coming off from Stephen. But take care that this MEK does not come in contact with any plastic material for long and do it under good ventilation). > There could be even flaked oxide from some old tape causing loss of play back output at high frequency and it is worth cleaning the head carefully and observe the results. > Once again- use soft cloth / chemoise leather tip with recommended solution only! > Kannan > chev454 at attbi.com wrote > Hello all: > > Just purchased a very nice condition 680ZX off of eBay. While cosmetically > the deck is great, I noticed one issue with playback that I am unable to > fully solve. > > When I first played a tape, the high frequencies in the left channel where > severely rolled off, to the point where the level of output seemed > considerably less than the right channel. Right channel is great. PB height > and azimuth adjustments did little. Upon inspecting the PB head, there > appeared to be a sort of 'haze' in particular along the horizontal copper > stripe of the head closest to the door. The copper stripe towards the back > appears sharp and well defined (similar to Rec head 'stripes'). Also along > the right edge of the PB head crest there appeared some white, speckly > material. A basic cleaning and demag did little. After scrubbing the head > considerably, the output is now much closer to the right channel in overall > tone balance, but still noticeable. > > I would say at this point, the HF content of the left channel is about 80% > of the right. Should I just continue to clean the head until I reach a > suitable match? The haze and speckles still seem to be there and I have > really cleaned quite a bit. > > Is this a really odd amount of head cleaning to do? Can anyone give me their > ..02 on this situation? > > Much obliged, > Mike > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > From ezio_lucenti at tin.it Tue Jan 7 13:44:15 2003 From: ezio_lucenti at tin.it (Ezio) Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 13:44:15 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem In-Reply-To: <003601c2b632$16fa07e0$8f2b3b50@PcComunero> References: <20030107064411.ED1C5114916@webmail.vsnl.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030107134201.00a77d50@box.tin.it> I strongly suggest you ask you trusted chemist !!!!!!!!!!! In Italy (where the commerce of alchool is almost free ....) it is the only way to buy it . The isopropilic is an ordinary achool but 99% PURE ! and this is making a big difference with 95% (for cooking and drinks preparation) . Ezio At 10:49 AM 1/7/03 +0100, you wrote: >Hi Kannan. Where can I purchase the isopropyl alcohol? >Javier > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 7:44 AM >Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem > > > > > > Mike > > First of all what sort of cleaning you mention? Both playback as well as >record heads are very precious of any Nak and clean only with soft cotton >cloth soaked in Isopropyl alcohol ( you can use Paint thinner carefully - >called MEK solution as Per Stephen and I believe that should be a proven >method coming off from Stephen. But take care that this MEK does not come in >contact with any plastic material for long and do it under good >ventilation). > > There could be even flaked oxide from some old tape causing loss of play >back output at high frequency and it is worth cleaning the head carefully >and observe the results. > > Once again- use soft cloth / chemoise leather tip with recommended >solution only! > > Kannan > > chev454 at attbi.com wrote > > Hello all: > > > > Just purchased a very nice condition 680ZX off of eBay. While cosmetically > > the deck is great, I noticed one issue with playback that I am unable to > > fully solve. > > > > When I first played a tape, the high frequencies in the left channel where > > severely rolled off, to the point where the level of output seemed > > considerably less than the right channel. Right channel is great. PB >height > > and azimuth adjustments did little. Upon inspecting the PB head, there > > appeared to be a sort of 'haze' in particular along the horizontal copper > > stripe of the head closest to the door. The copper stripe towards the back > > appears sharp and well defined (similar to Rec head 'stripes'). Also along > > the right edge of the PB head crest there appeared some white, speckly > > material. A basic cleaning and demag did little. After scrubbing the head > > considerably, the output is now much closer to the right channel in >overall > > tone balance, but still noticeable. > > > > I would say at this point, the HF content of the left channel is about 80% > > of the right. Should I just continue to clean the head until I reach a > > suitable match? The haze and speckles still seem to be there and I have > > really cleaned quite a bit. > > > > Is this a really odd amount of head cleaning to do? Can anyone give me >their > > ..02 on this situation? > > > > Much obliged, > > Mike > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Sincerely Ezio Lucenti Ezio's e-photography site www.lucenti.com From m.raven at chello.nl Tue Jan 7 14:33:06 2003 From: m.raven at chello.nl (Maurits) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 14:33:06 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem References: <20030107064411.ED1C5114916@webmail.vsnl.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20030107134201.00a77d50@box.tin.it> Message-ID: <000801c2b651$4fa14350$9e3cbbd4@COLOSSUS> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ezio" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem > I strongly suggest you ask you trusted chemist !!!!!!!!!!! > In Italy (where the commerce of alchool is almost free ....) it is the only > way to buy it . Elektronic equipment stores sells ALLSOP 30 mL Liquido per la pulizia. It's 100% isopropyl alcohol. But drugstores do sell it too, even in Italy ;-) Maurits From jmtooley at ce.net Tue Jan 7 15:34:14 2003 From: jmtooley at ce.net (jmtooley at ce.net) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 09:34:14 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] analogue to digital recording (it was off topic) In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20030107030225.00a7d600@box.tin.it> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030107030225.00a7d600@box.tin.it> Message-ID: <1041950054.3e1ae56650c3a@mail.ce.net> Everything copied to CD really well. Both sides of tape had a total of 78 mins. of speech so an 80 min. CD was perfect. CD is now somewhere between US & UK going to the spouse of my deceased friend. Many thanks to all the good souls at the wonderful forum who helped me out. John T. Quoting Ezio : > > It is splitted by the SILENCE LEVEL ... whenever the sound is going lower > than a ''certain value of db'' a mark is set automatically by the > recording program. > > I can suggest : > > 1- unmark the automatic splitting > > 2- when you will have a single BIG WAV file ... you will edit putting the > edit marks manually > > > I STRONLGY suggest the use of WAVELAB by Steinberg either to record the > wav files either to edit them after the recording time. > > > I can give you ''a copy'' of this ..... letting you to access my FTP > server and download the application ..... if you don't mind to become a > ''small pirate'' for this purpose only. > > Wavelab it is a little bit complicated but for sure it's the more > professional and powerful piece of software available to do what you are > trying to do ... and what I am doing almost weekly not to say daily .... > I am converting my vinyls to CD either to preserve them either to make > them ''portable'' = in the car + to the hutt in the mountains > .... > > > Wavelab has filters to de-click (vinyls) and to de-hiss (tapes) or > de-noise the analogue stuff .... > > > a longer argument can be taken when speaking of sharpness in recording > (16 - 24 - 32 bit recording at 44.1KHz sampling or up to 96KHz sampling) > > > > I can use my Naks to put on CD old tapes too ... > > > The hardware shouldn't be a big problem specially considering you are > doing this process once .... but when considering a more frequent work of > analogue to digital translation .... then a different board = better than > Sound Blaster stuff should be considered . > > > Sincerely > > > Ezio Lucenti > > > At 04:28 PM 12/31/02 -0500, you wrote: > > Eric, > >   > > I'm getting many "split" .wav files, even on the same piece of > musical. What produces splits, recording level? I peaked with the green > leds but beyond that are three yellow bars before a red bar. Perhaps if > my levels were slightly higher she wouldn't split! > >   > > John T. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Eric > Reidinger > To: naktalk at naks.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 11:10 AM > Subject: RE: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC > > > > Hi John, >   > If you are using Roxio Easy CD creator 5.X then simply bring up the > main splash screen and choose audio CD project, it will bring up a > secondary screen where you select the WAV file location from your HD and > then simply hit the record button - it is a red button to bring up the > record options.  I am assuming you have a cd burner attached to your > PC. >   > For creating an MP3 I use a seperate program that is freeware from > TUCOWS, www.tucows.com, called > DBPOWERAMP to do the conversion, it works better than the one utility > that is included in the Roxio package.  Convert the WAV to the MP3 > (LAME) and then select off the Roxio main splashscreen - MP3 project. it > will bring up the select MP3 option and then select record button and it > will create the MP3 project for you on the CD. >   > If you need more simply let me know. >   > Regards, >   > Eric >   > -----Original Message----- > From: John M. Tooley > [mailto:jmtooley at ce.net] > Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 10:54 AM > To: reeltoreel at yahoogroups.com > Cc: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC > > > > I want to copy a deceased friends voice from cassette to CD. So ReVox > B 215 to Creative Sound Blaster Augigy Soundcard to Roxio Easy CD Creator > 5.3.2.34a  / Spin Doctor which then I believe copies everything as a > .wav file to my H/D. If this is so far correct do I then burn CD using > the large .wav file or convert to MP3? Any and all help would be much > appreciated. >   > John > > > > > Sincerely > > > Ezio Lucenti > > > Ezio's e-photography site > www.lucenti.com > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ ========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ ========= > > From jmtooley at ce.net Tue Jan 7 16:58:43 2003 From: jmtooley at ce.net (jmtooley at ce.net) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 10:58:43 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20030107025600.00a79c60@box.tin.it> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030107025600.00a79c60@box.tin.it> Message-ID: <1041955123.3e1af9332260b@mail.ce.net> Done, thank you. See response to you and others that helped me. John T. Quoting Ezio : > Sorry for the delayed answer (holidays) ... you should burn the files = CD > when in WAV . > Thw quality it will be higher than MP3 (that must be converted into WAV > anyhow to be written on CD in a ''playable'' way) > > Ezio > > At 10:53 AM 12/31/02 -0500, you wrote: > >I want to copy a deceased friends voice from cassette to CD. So ReVox B > >215 to Creative Sound Blaster Augigy Soundcard to Roxio Easy CD Creator > >5.3.2.34a / Spin Doctor which then I believe copies everything as a .wav > >file to my H/D. If this is so far correct do I then burn CD using the > >large .wav file or convert to MP3? Any and all help would be much > appreciated. > > > >John > > > Sincerely > > Ezio Lucenti > > Ezio's e-photography site www.lucenti.com > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ ========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ ========= > > From hisself at ol-jim.com Tue Jan 7 17:38:52 2003 From: hisself at ol-jim.com (Ol' Jim, hisself) Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 11:38:52 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20030107134201.00a77d50@box.tin.it> References: <003601c2b632$16fa07e0$8f2b3b50@PcComunero> Message-ID: <3E1ABC4C.12726.5EC0E56@localhost> > I strongly suggest you ask you trusted chemist !!!!!!!!!!! > In Italy (where the commerce of alchool is almost free ....) it is the > only way to buy it . The isopropilic is an ordinary achool but 99% > PURE ! and this is making a big difference with 95% (for cooking and > drinks preparation) . > I'm not sure what you meant to say, BUT BE WARNED: Isopropyl alcohol, regardless of purity, is poisonous! Do NOT use it for cooking and drinking!!!!! Only ethyl alcohol is suitable for ingestion. Ol' Jim, hisself Enjoyin' the Space Coast of Florida hisself at ol-jim.com http://www.ol-jim.com An armed society is a polite society. From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Tue Jan 7 19:19:37 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 18:19:37 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem In-Reply-To: <3E1ABC4C.12726.5EC0E56@localhost> Message-ID: <000701c2b679$565c9000$1d5d87d9@oemcomputer> Damn! Too late .... > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Ol' Jim, hisself > Sent: 07 January 2003 16:39 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem > > > > I strongly suggest you ask you trusted chemist !!!!!!!!!!! > > In Italy (where the commerce of alchool is almost free ....) it is the > > only way to buy it . The isopropilic is an ordinary achool but 99% > > PURE ! and this is making a big difference with 95% (for cooking and > > drinks preparation) . > > > > I'm not sure what you meant to say, BUT BE WARNED: Isopropyl > alcohol, regardless of > purity, is poisonous! Do NOT use it for cooking and drinking!!!!! > > Only ethyl alcohol is suitable for ingestion. > > > Ol' Jim, hisself Enjoyin' the Space Coast of Florida > hisself at ol-jim.com http://www.ol-jim.com > > An armed society is a polite society. > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 30/12/02 From kannan_s at vsnl.com Tue Jan 7 20:02:40 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 00:32:40 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem Message-ID: <20030107190240.658D311490F@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From ezio_lucenti at tin.it Tue Jan 7 20:12:40 2003 From: ezio_lucenti at tin.it (Ezio) Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 20:12:40 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem In-Reply-To: <000701c2b679$565c9000$1d5d87d9@oemcomputer> References: <3E1ABC4C.12726.5EC0E56@localhost> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030107201207.00a7d6b0@box.tin.it> Sorry I was on Christmas holidays = mountains = no connection .... Ezio At 06:19 PM 1/7/03 +0000, you wrote: >Damn! Too late .... > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > Ol' Jim, hisself > > Sent: 07 January 2003 16:39 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem > > > > > > > I strongly suggest you ask you trusted chemist !!!!!!!!!!! > > > In Italy (where the commerce of alchool is almost free ....) it is the > > > only way to buy it . The isopropilic is an ordinary achool but 99% > > > PURE ! and this is making a big difference with 95% (for cooking and > > > drinks preparation) . > > > > > > > I'm not sure what you meant to say, BUT BE WARNED: Isopropyl > > alcohol, regardless of > > purity, is poisonous! Do NOT use it for cooking and drinking!!!!! > > > > Only ethyl alcohol is suitable for ingestion. > > > > > > Ol' Jim, hisself Enjoyin' the Space Coast of Florida > > hisself at ol-jim.com http://www.ol-jim.com > > > > An armed society is a polite society. > > > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 30/12/02 > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Sincerely Ezio Lucenti Ezio's e-photography site www.lucenti.com From ezio_lucenti at tin.it Tue Jan 7 20:15:46 2003 From: ezio_lucenti at tin.it (Ezio) Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 20:15:46 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem In-Reply-To: <3E1ABC4C.12726.5EC0E56@localhost> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030107134201.00a77d50@box.tin.it> <003601c2b632$16fa07e0$8f2b3b50@PcComunero> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030107201321.00a7ab50@box.tin.it> You are right .... in Italy people has used that to prepare fake wine and spirits and many people had to be recovered in hospital ... it is because the isopropilic is containing methanole and ethanole together with ethilic .... and they are poisonous Ezio At 11:38 AM 1/7/03 -0500, you wrote: > > I strongly suggest you ask you trusted chemist !!!!!!!!!!! > > In Italy (where the commerce of alchool is almost free ....) it is the > > only way to buy it . The isopropilic is an ordinary achool but 99% > > PURE ! and this is making a big difference with 95% (for cooking and > > drinks preparation) . > > > >I'm not sure what you meant to say, BUT BE WARNED: Isopropyl alcohol, >regardless of >purity, is poisonous! Do NOT use it for cooking and drinking!!!!! > >Only ethyl alcohol is suitable for ingestion. > > >Ol' Jim, hisself Enjoyin' the Space Coast of Florida >hisself at ol-jim.com http://www.ol-jim.com > >An armed society is a polite society. > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Sincerely Ezio Lucenti Ezio's e-photography site www.lucenti.com From nicy at ya.com Tue Jan 7 20:41:00 2003 From: nicy at ya.com (JGascon) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 20:41:00 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem References: <20030107064411.ED1C5114916@webmail.vsnl.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20030107134201.00a77d50@box.tin.it> Message-ID: <002301c2b684$b5a7b340$8f2b3b50@PcComunero> Thanks to Ezio and Maurits. I will try to get it tomorrow. Javier. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ezio" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem > I strongly suggest you ask you trusted chemist !!!!!!!!!!! > In Italy (where the commerce of alchool is almost free ....) it is the only > way to buy it . > The isopropilic is an ordinary achool but 99% PURE ! and this is making a > big difference with 95% (for cooking and drinks preparation) . > > Ezio > > At 10:49 AM 1/7/03 +0100, you wrote: > >Hi Kannan. Where can I purchase the isopropyl alcohol? > >Javier > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: > >To: > >Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 7:44 AM > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem > > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > First of all what sort of cleaning you mention? Both playback as well as > >record heads are very precious of any Nak and clean only with soft cotton > >cloth soaked in Isopropyl alcohol ( you can use Paint thinner carefully - > >called MEK solution as Per Stephen and I believe that should be a proven > >method coming off from Stephen. But take care that this MEK does not come in > >contact with any plastic material for long and do it under good > >ventilation). > > > There could be even flaked oxide from some old tape causing loss of play > >back output at high frequency and it is worth cleaning the head carefully > >and observe the results. > > > Once again- use soft cloth / chemoise leather tip with recommended > >solution only! > > > Kannan > > > chev454 at attbi.com wrote > > > Hello all: > > > > > > Just purchased a very nice condition 680ZX off of eBay. While cosmetically > > > the deck is great, I noticed one issue with playback that I am unable to > > > fully solve. > > > > > > When I first played a tape, the high frequencies in the left channel where > > > severely rolled off, to the point where the level of output seemed > > > considerably less than the right channel. Right channel is great. PB > >height > > > and azimuth adjustments did little. Upon inspecting the PB head, there > > > appeared to be a sort of 'haze' in particular along the horizontal copper > > > stripe of the head closest to the door. The copper stripe towards the back > > > appears sharp and well defined (similar to Rec head 'stripes'). Also along > > > the right edge of the PB head crest there appeared some white, speckly > > > material. A basic cleaning and demag did little. After scrubbing the head > > > considerably, the output is now much closer to the right channel in > >overall > > > tone balance, but still noticeable. > > > > > > I would say at this point, the HF content of the left channel is about 80% > > > of the right. Should I just continue to clean the head until I reach a > > > suitable match? The haze and speckles still seem to be there and I have > > > really cleaned quite a bit. > > > > > > Is this a really odd amount of head cleaning to do? Can anyone give me > >their > > > ..02 on this situation? > > > > > > Much obliged, > > > Mike > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= = > >======= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > To maintain your account please go here: > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= = > >======= > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= = > >======= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > To maintain your account please go here: > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= = > >======= > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > >To maintain your account please go here: > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > > > > Sincerely > > Ezio Lucenti > > Ezio's e-photography site www.lucenti.com > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > From hisself at ol-jim.com Tue Jan 7 21:48:57 2003 From: hisself at ol-jim.com (Ol' Jim, hisself) Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 15:48:57 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem In-Reply-To: <000701c2b679$565c9000$1d5d87d9@oemcomputer> References: <3E1ABC4C.12726.5EC0E56@localhost> Message-ID: <3E1AF6E9.12086.6D101BA@localhost> > Damn! Too late .... > > > I'm not sure what you meant to say, BUT BE WARNED: Isopropyl > > alcohol, regardless of > > purity, is poisonous! Do NOT use it for cooking and drinking!!!!! > > > > Only ethyl alcohol is suitable for ingestion. > > > > OKay, Graham, Quickly, very quickly, write as follows: I, being of sound mind, de hereby bequeath all my sound equipment and loose change to Ol' Jim, hisself! Sign it, and then continue drinking. Ol' Jim, hisself Enjoyin' the Space Coast of Florida hisself at ol-jim.com http://www.ol-jim.com An armed society is a polite society. From alex at autoconsortium.com Tue Jan 7 22:06:02 2003 From: alex at autoconsortium.com (Alex Cagann) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 16:06:02 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] sticky Dragon Message-ID: My Dragon likes to stick from time to time. Today, I put a tape in, hit play...nothing. If I tap on the case (don't kill me...I know :-(...it starts to play. This had happened a few months ago and I gave the play mechanism a help and it went. I guess this is part of the silent mechanism feature that pushes the heads up and gets things going. (excuse my articulation here, I'm no tech). It's a large white 'wheel' that takes a half spin and gets things going. I have cleaned the rubber parts associated with this mechanism with alcohol. Is there something I need to replace? I don't want to ship this thing off for such a small mechanical problem, so I was looking here for any 'been there done that's'. Thanks, Alex Cagann http://www.autoconsortium.com From ra.ah at rcn.com Tue Jan 7 22:26:09 2003 From: ra.ah at rcn.com (Ron) Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 16:26:09 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem References: <003601c2b632$16fa07e0$8f2b3b50@PcComunero> <3E1ABC4C.12726.5EC0E56@localhost> Message-ID: <3E1B45F1.14C18F36@rcn.com> "Ol' Jim, hisself" wrote: > > > I strongly suggest you ask you trusted chemist !!!!!!!!!!! > > In Italy (where the commerce of alchool is almost free ....) it is the > > only way to buy it . The isopropilic is an ordinary achool but 99% > > PURE ! and this is making a big difference with 95% (for cooking and > > drinks preparation) . > > > > I'm not sure what you meant to say, BUT BE WARNED: Isopropyl alcohol, regardless of > purity, is poisonous! Do NOT use it for cooking and drinking!!!!! It's true that it's poisonous, but if you drink enough of it, you won't care. -- Ron > Only ethyl alcohol is suitable for ingestion. > > Ol' Jim, hisself Enjoyin' the Space Coast of Florida > hisself at ol-jim.com http://www.ol-jim.com > > An armed society is a polite society. > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ra.ah at rcn.com Tue Jan 7 22:30:38 2003 From: ra.ah at rcn.com (Ron) Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 16:30:38 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] sticky Dragon References: Message-ID: <3E1B46FE.9AC5659F@rcn.com> It could be the control motor. If so, it needs to be overhauled or replaced. Never did it on a Dragon, but, based on Stephen's post, it's not difficult to do (at least, for him :-) ). -- Ron Alex Cagann wrote: > > My Dragon likes to stick from time to time. Today, I put a tape in, hit > play...nothing. If I tap on the case (don't kill me...I know :-(...it starts > to play. This had happened a few months ago and I gave the play mechanism a > help and it went. I guess this is part of the silent mechanism feature that > pushes the heads up and gets things going. (excuse my articulation here, I'm > no tech). It's a large white 'wheel' that takes a half spin and gets things > going. I have cleaned the rubber parts associated with this mechanism with > alcohol. Is there something I need to replace? I don't want to ship this > thing off for such a small mechanical problem, so I was looking here for any > 'been there done that's'. > > Thanks, > > Alex Cagann > http://www.autoconsortium.com > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From nicy at ya.com Sun Jan 5 15:59:20 2003 From: nicy at ya.com (JGascon) Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 15:59:20 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Can anybody help me with DR1 Documentation ?? References: Message-ID: <002201c2b4cb$0733ef00$8f2b3b50@PcComunero> Hi Martin, I´ve just sent the owners manual of DR-1-2-3 decks to the support site. Also a brochure. I hope you like it. Javier ----- Original Message ----- From: "KORNET" To: Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 3:50 AM Subject: [naktalk] Can anybody help me with DR1 Documentation ?? > Hello everybody, I just purchased a used DR1 however without any > Documentation. Does anybody out there have a catalogue, users manual or > service manual ? I searched the web in vain, this model does not seem to be > as popular as the other decks... > > Thanks a lot > > Martin (from Korea) > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Sun Jan 5 22:18:36 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 08:18:36 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Idler problem. Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E2F@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Howdy all. Thanks to all who contributed their suggestions to the little problem I had. Thanks to Salim & Graham for their advice, that did the trick. It turns out that a little bit of grit was on the rubber section on the idler, so I used a very tiny file to grind away the grit. Damm hard to get to the idler on the RX505, I dare not pull it apart because it's in perfect alignment (thanks to Stephen of course), and I could not live with my self if any damage was done :) Thanks again. Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: Graham Nelson [mailto:graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, 5 January 2003 5:48 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: RE: [naktalk] Idler problem. Suggest you use something like a nail board (wives usually have them!) and to try to use something within the deck to steady one end of the board so you may gentle lower the other end onto the running idler, just as if you were cutting something spinning on a lathe. Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Salim Marzuki > Sent: 04 January 2003 17:23 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Idler problem. > > > > Hi Tom, my 482 used to do that and i noticed there's a flat 'spot' on the > hardened rubber. I'm lucky to be able to find an approx. similar diameter > (although narrower) ring - but getting rubber out from the > mechanism without > breaking it was quite difficult. Why don't you use the 480 idler for your > 505 and try to grind the flat spot out for the 480. Put deck in FF and > slowly rub a sandpaper against the running idler - better use your 480 > mechanism for this process as it has more open space inside. > > Best regards, > Salim SM > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 30/12/02 ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Mon Jan 6 05:39:34 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 15:39:34 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] TDK MA-XG gen III shell Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E35@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Hi all. How many of you are/have used the TDK MA-XG gen III shell, the non metal looking type? Have any of you found the quality of this tape and shell to be less impressive and lower in quality than it's predecessors? Regards Tom Siomopoulos. From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Tue Jan 7 22:36:43 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 08:36:43 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] sticky Dragon Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E3B@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Alex is it the wheel that has the belt around it? Tom Siomopoulos -----Original Message----- From: Alex Cagann [mailto:alex at autoconsortium.com] Sent: Wednesday, 8 January 2003 8:06 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] sticky Dragon My Dragon likes to stick from time to time. Today, I put a tape in, hit play...nothing. If I tap on the case (don't kill me...I know :-(...it starts to play. This had happened a few months ago and I gave the play mechanism a help and it went. I guess this is part of the silent mechanism feature that pushes the heads up and gets things going. (excuse my articulation here, I'm no tech). It's a large white 'wheel' that takes a half spin and gets things going. I have cleaned the rubber parts associated with this mechanism with alcohol. Is there something I need to replace? I don't want to ship this thing off for such a small mechanical problem, so I was looking here for any 'been there done that's'. Thanks, Alex Cagann http://www.autoconsortium.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Tue Jan 7 23:24:35 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 22:24:35 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem In-Reply-To: <3E1AF6E9.12086.6D101BA@localhost> Message-ID: <000e01c2b69b$8efc9820$7f6d87d9@oemcomputer> "Burp!" Feeling better now ... > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Ol' Jim, hisself > Sent: 07 January 2003 20:49 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: RE: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem > > > > Damn! Too late .... > > > > > I'm not sure what you meant to say, BUT BE WARNED: Isopropyl > > > alcohol, regardless of > > > purity, is poisonous! Do NOT use it for cooking and drinking!!!!! > > > > > > Only ethyl alcohol is suitable for ingestion. > > > > > > > > OKay, Graham, > > Quickly, very quickly, write as follows: I, being of sound mind, > de hereby bequeath all > my sound equipment and loose change to Ol' Jim, hisself! > > Sign it, and then continue drinking. > > > Ol' Jim, hisself Enjoyin' the Space Coast of Florida > hisself at ol-jim.com http://www.ol-jim.com > > An armed society is a polite society. > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 30/12/02 From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Tue Jan 7 23:29:45 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 22:29:45 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem In-Reply-To: <3E1B45F1.14C18F36@rcn.com> Message-ID: <001101c2b69c$47f531c0$7f6d87d9@oemcomputer> > > It's true that it's poisonous, but if you drink enough of > it, you won't care. > > -- Ron > > > AH! So, that's why I feel better ... --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 30/12/02 From ezio_lucenti at tin.it Tue Jan 7 23:34:00 2003 From: ezio_lucenti at tin.it (Ezio) Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 23:34:00 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem In-Reply-To: <3E1B45F1.14C18F36@rcn.com> References: <003601c2b632$16fa07e0$8f2b3b50@PcComunero> <3E1ABC4C.12726.5EC0E56@localhost> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030107233311.00a7f8b0@box.tin.it> That's right ! ... I hadn't enough ... hic ! Ezio At 04:26 PM 1/7/03 -0500, you wrote: >"Ol' Jim, hisself" wrote: > > > > > I strongly suggest you ask you trusted chemist !!!!!!!!!!! > > > In Italy (where the commerce of alchool is almost free ....) it is the > > > only way to buy it . The isopropilic is an ordinary achool but 99% > > > PURE ! and this is making a big difference with 95% (for cooking and > > > drinks preparation) . > > > > > > > I'm not sure what you meant to say, BUT BE WARNED: Isopropyl alcohol, > regardless of > > purity, is poisonous! Do NOT use it for cooking and drinking!!!!! > >It's true that it's poisonous, but if you drink enough of >it, you won't care. > >-- Ron > > > > > Only ethyl alcohol is suitable for ingestion. > > > > Ol' Jim, hisself Enjoyin' the Space Coast of Florida > > hisself at ol-jim.com http://www.ol-jim.com > > > > An armed society is a polite society. > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Sincerely Ezio Lucenti Ezio's e-photography site www.lucenti.com From nicy at ya.com Wed Jan 8 00:57:15 2003 From: nicy at ya.com (JGascon) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 00:57:15 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem References: <003601c2b632$16fa07e0$8f2b3b50@PcComunero> <3E1ABC4C.12726.5EC0E56@localhost> <5.1.0.14.2.20030107233311.00a7f8b0@box.tin.it> Message-ID: <000501c2b6a8$82571020$8f2b3b50@PcComunero> Hi all, I would need the CR4 service manual. My deck is working fine but...I need to play! Javier. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ezio" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:34 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem > That's right ! ... I hadn't enough ... hic ! > > Ezio > > At 04:26 PM 1/7/03 -0500, you wrote: > > > >"Ol' Jim, hisself" wrote: > > > > > > > I strongly suggest you ask you trusted chemist !!!!!!!!!!! > > > > In Italy (where the commerce of alchool is almost free ....) it is the > > > > only way to buy it . The isopropilic is an ordinary achool but 99% > > > > PURE ! and this is making a big difference with 95% (for cooking and > > > > drinks preparation) . > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure what you meant to say, BUT BE WARNED: Isopropyl alcohol, > > regardless of > > > purity, is poisonous! Do NOT use it for cooking and drinking!!!!! > > > >It's true that it's poisonous, but if you drink enough of > >it, you won't care. > > > >-- Ron > > > > > > > > > Only ethyl alcohol is suitable for ingestion. > > > > > > Ol' Jim, hisself Enjoyin' the Space Coast of Florida > > > hisself at ol-jim.com http://www.ol-jim.com > > > > > > An armed society is a polite society. > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > To maintain your account please go here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > >To maintain your account please go here: > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > > > > Sincerely > > Ezio Lucenti > > Ezio's e-photography site www.lucenti.com > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > From kannan_s at vsnl.com Wed Jan 8 01:48:46 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 06:18:46 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] sticky Dragon Message-ID: <20030108004846.C3894114916@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From jmtooley at ce.net Wed Jan 8 02:26:43 2003 From: jmtooley at ce.net (John M. Tooley) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 20:26:43 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] The Marathon Tape References: <3CD92F39.000006.00560@CopyTech> Message-ID: <00c601c2b6b5$011e8b70$1a116343@johnnyrotten> Carlos Any news on the Marathon tape saga? John ----- Original Message ----- From: El Magnifico To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 8:59 AM Subject: [naktalk] The Marathon Tape Ladies and Gentlemen: As a last tribute to the long life media , the cassette, I'll be mailing a C-90 chrome tape with a song recorded in it on the deck of my preference to a fellow member of this list, perhaps Mr. Bleus. He'll receive it, record a tune of his prefs' in his beloved Nak 505 etc ... and pass it to another member and so on. When we finish recording it, the last person will return it to me in Puerto Rico. Each member must pay the PRIORITY MAIL fee. A register sheet must companion the tape everywhere around the globe. We'll keep the tunes no longer than 5 minutes even if that selection must be trimmed down with a fade out etc ... IN other words: No tunes over 5 minutes long, PLEASE ! Try to keep the audio levels estbalished by the origin, ME. Dolby or not Dolby ? NO DOLBY OR ANY KIND OF NRU's ! Any time the tape arrived at your house, you un-packed it and follow the instructions inside. After filing the form and record the tune, re-packed and send it to the other member waiting and so on. We'll follow the route by this media: e mails. Anyone interested ? Mr. Bleus will have the tape after me. Who's next ? Best, Carlos aka The Tape Man Copies could be made later ... ____________________________________________________ IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marrot at singnet.com.sg Wed Jan 8 06:38:48 2003 From: marrot at singnet.com.sg (Martin) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 14:38:48 +0900 Subject: [naktalk] Dirty Heads - Using Commercial Cleaning Cassette ? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20030107201321.00a7ab50@box.tin.it> Message-ID: I just bought a commercial cleaning tape which I intend to use on my (second hand purchase) DR1 after it arrives. Anybody have experience on how this type of cleaning compares to the isopropyl alcohol cleaning recommended by Kannan ? Ideally, the professional cleaning tape is causing the least amount damage to the heads but I have a feeling that it could do more harm than good. Any comments from experienced Nak users very welcome !!! Martin ++++++++++++++++++ -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of Ezio Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:16 AM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem You are right .... in Italy people has used that to prepare fake wine and spirits and many people had to be recovered in hospital ... it is because the isopropilic is containing methanole and ethanole together with ethilic .... and they are poisonous Ezio At 11:38 AM 1/7/03 -0500, you wrote: > > I strongly suggest you ask you trusted chemist !!!!!!!!!!! > > In Italy (where the commerce of alchool is almost free ....) it is the > > only way to buy it . The isopropilic is an ordinary achool but 99% > > PURE ! and this is making a big difference with 95% (for cooking and > > drinks preparation) . > > > >I'm not sure what you meant to say, BUT BE WARNED: Isopropyl alcohol, >regardless of >purity, is poisonous! Do NOT use it for cooking and drinking!!!!! > >Only ethyl alcohol is suitable for ingestion. > > >Ol' Jim, hisself Enjoyin' the Space Coast of Florida >hisself at ol-jim.com http://www.ol-jim.com > >An armed society is a polite society. > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > Sincerely Ezio Lucenti Ezio's e-photography site www.lucenti.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From josephj69 at juno.com Wed Jan 8 06:58:59 2003 From: josephj69 at juno.com (josephj69 at juno.com) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 00:58:59 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] OT: best place to buy tubes Message-ID: <20030108.010427.-274559.0.josephj69@juno.com> Hi guys, I know this is OT, but this list seems to be one of the more reliable sources of info out there. I just bought a (used/cheap) pair of those Antique Sound Labs Wave amplifiers on a whim. They came with no tubes, so I need four 6BM8 tubes for them. Does anyone have any suggestions on the best tubes to use, and more importantly, the best place to buy them from??? A lot of people on AA seem to feel that all 6BM8's sound very good anyway. Most seem to think the Svetlanas are the best value overall, at about $9 each. Any other suggestions? Anyone else heard these little amps? Thanks, Joe ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From Mhugo at sunint.co.za Wed Jan 8 07:18:30 2003 From: Mhugo at sunint.co.za (Mark Hugo) Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 08:18:30 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Dirty Heads - Using Commercial Cleaning Cassette ?MARTIN!! Message-ID: Hi Martin, I consider those commercial head cleaning tapes a necessary evil for car units. They are only slightly better than "speading the dirt evenly". They are inexpensive because they should only be used two or three times in my opinion - but not for classy home decks like a DR1. A cotton bud, the best quality you can find Generous wadding and tightly wound) (Stephen Sank always recommends woooden shaft ones) tipped with 90%+ wood alcohol I find is good for precised cleaning of the head surfaces. Stroke them gently and evenly. Remove the door and use a torch (flash light) to see what you're doing. Don't touch rubber surfaces. On some of my Naks, the capstans spin while the unit is powered up and some don't. Of course, if the capstan shafts spin, cleaning them is made easier than if they don't. Use one end of each bud only. The other touches your hand, and therefore is no longer clean. 'Visible dirt' is sufficient dirt to change to a fresh cotton bud straight away. Dry the heads with a clean dry bud, gently stroking again. Leave the cassette bay door open for 5 minutes after you have cleaned to allow residual alcohol to evaporate. This is just a precaution, obviously it should not be "awash" with alcohol!! The playback head has a pad lifter device fitted. For regular cleaning, leave it and don't push against it - just work over it, in between it and around it. I have never, myself, removed them. Of course there are blokes here who have and they can give you some guidence on that. You should be able to get that alcohol at your regular dispensing pharmacy. As soon as you have dipped your cotton bud into it, replace the cap, or it will evaporate pronto! Surgical alcohol is out - too much in the way of oily exicipients and bacteriostats. It has been suggested to use an equally small cleaning stick, tipped with a small piece of chamois(shammy) leather. This is soft and absorbent, and of course lint free. Good luck. Regards, Marc >>> marrot at singnet.com.sg 01/08/03 07:38AM >>> I just bought a commercial cleaning tape which I intend to use on my (second hand purchase) DR1 after it arrives. Anybody have experience on how this type of cleaning compares to the isopropyl alcohol cleaning recommended by Kannan ? Ideally, the professional cleaning tape is causing the least amount damage to the heads but I have a feeling that it could do more harm than good. Any comments from experienced Nak users very welcome !!! Martin ++++++++++++++++++ -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of Ezio Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:16 AM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem You are right .... in Italy people has used that to prepare fake wine and spirits and many people had to be recovered in hospital ... it is because the isopropilic is containing methanole and ethanole together with ethilic .... and they are poisonous Ezio At 11:38 AM 1/7/03 -0500, you wrote: > > I strongly suggest you ask you trusted chemist !!!!!!!!!!! > > In Italy (where the commerce of alchool is almost free ....) it is the > > only way to buy it . The isopropilic is an ordinary achool but 99% > > PURE ! and this is making a big difference with 95% (for cooking and > > drinks preparation) . > > > >I'm not sure what you meant to say, BUT BE WARNED: Isopropyl alcohol, >regardless of >purity, is poisonous! Do NOT use it for cooking and drinking!!!!! > >Only ethyl alcohol is suitable for ingestion. > > >Ol' Jim, hisself Enjoyin' the Space Coast of Florida >hisself at ol-jim.com http://www.ol-jim.com > >An armed society is a polite society. > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > Sincerely Ezio Lucenti Ezio's e-photography site www.lucenti.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient/s. If you are not the intended recipient, you cannot use, copy, distribute, disclose or retain the email or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying to this message and to permanently delete it and all attachments from your computer. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present in this email and the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. From kannan_s at vsnl.com Wed Jan 8 08:04:18 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 12:34:18 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] Dirty Heads - Using Commercial Cleaning Cassette ?MARTIN!! Message-ID: <20030108070418.407B91149E4@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From sandorpistike at hotmail.com Wed Jan 8 14:51:46 2003 From: sandorpistike at hotmail.com (Sndor Istvn) Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 14:51:46 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Dirty Heads - Using Commercial Cleaning Cassette ? Message-ID: Hi, I am not an expert of Naks, I "only" use, but do not service my ZX-7. All I have done is to clean the heads and the capstan pins (is it the right term for that small spinning spike?). The repair-guy, who tuned my deck 3-4 years ago said to me it has no sense to use any type of commercial stuffs, eg. demagnetizer cassettes, cleaning tapes etc. I think there is no better than the usual alcohol for cleaning. It should be clean, that's all. And be aware of the side effects... (The reason for using alcohol is very simple, I think: it must evaporate quickly, without residues, and isopropyl alcohol is less volatile than the well-know denatured-alcohol. This is a mixture of methyl and ethyl alcohol, the methyl is poisonous indeed, but you won't drink it, I hope.) Best regards, Istv�n from Hungary >From: "Martin" >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: >Subject: [naktalk] Dirty Heads - Using Commercial Cleaning Cassette ? >Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 14:38:48 +0900 > >I just bought a commercial cleaning tape which I intend to use on my >(second >hand purchase) DR1 after it arrives. > >Anybody have experience on how this type of cleaning compares to the >isopropyl alcohol cleaning recommended by Kannan ? > >Ideally, the professional cleaning tape is causing the least amount damage >to the heads but I have a feeling that it could do more harm than good. > >Any comments from experienced Nak users very welcome !!! > >Martin > >++++++++++++++++++ > >-----Original Message----- >From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of >Ezio >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:16 AM >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem > > >You are right .... in Italy people has used that to prepare fake wine and >spirits and many people had to be recovered in hospital ... it is because >the isopropilic is containing methanole and ethanole together with ethilic >.... and they are poisonous > > >Ezio > > >At 11:38 AM 1/7/03 -0500, you wrote: > > > I strongly suggest you ask you trusted chemist !!!!!!!!!!! > > > In Italy (where the commerce of alchool is almost free ....) it is the > > > only way to buy it . The isopropilic is an ordinary achool but 99% > > > PURE ! and this is making a big difference with 95% (for cooking and > > > drinks preparation) . > > > > > > >I'm not sure what you meant to say, BUT BE WARNED: Isopropyl alcohol, > >regardless of > >purity, is poisonous! Do NOT use it for cooking and drinking!!!!! > > > >Only ethyl alcohol is suitable for ingestion. > > > > > >Ol' Jim, hisself Enjoyin' the Space Coast of Florida > >hisself at ol-jim.com http://www.ol-jim.com > > > >An armed society is a polite society. > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= >======== > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > >To maintain your account please go here: > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= >======== > > > > >Sincerely > >Ezio Lucenti > >Ezio's e-photography site www.lucenti.com > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From ra.ah at rcn.com Wed Jan 8 16:49:06 2003 From: ra.ah at rcn.com (Ron) Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 10:49:06 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Dirty Heads - Using Commercial Cleaning Cassette ? References: Message-ID: <3E1C4872.9A66FBA9@rcn.com> In general, cleaning tapes are abrasive and, as such, must cause *some* wear on the heads. I bought one many years ago and have only used it on the car cassette player -- very sparingly and very carefully -- where it does do its job as advertised. My horror story has to do with a VHS video cassette recorder. Happened to an acquaintance of mine. He started the cleaning cassette going when the phone rang... He claimed the call only took 'a couple of seconds', but the long and short of it was, when he came back, the heads had joined their ancestors in cassette head heaven... Turned out to be an extremely expensive head cleaning job. So, if you must use a cleaning tape, be very careful. Read the instructions. Those I've seen had a warning to limit cleaning time to 15 or 30 seconds. -- Ron Martin wrote: > > I just bought a commercial cleaning tape which I intend to use on my (second > hand purchase) DR1 after it arrives. > > Anybody have experience on how this type of cleaning compares to the > isopropyl alcohol cleaning recommended by Kannan ? > > Ideally, the professional cleaning tape is causing the least amount damage > to the heads but I have a feeling that it could do more harm than good. > > Any comments from experienced Nak users very welcome !!! > > Martin > > ++++++++++++++++++ > > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Ezio > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:16 AM > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem > > You are right .... in Italy people has used that to prepare fake wine and > spirits and many people had to be recovered in hospital ... it is because > the isopropilic is containing methanole and ethanole together with ethilic > .... and they are poisonous > > Ezio > > At 11:38 AM 1/7/03 -0500, you wrote: > > > I strongly suggest you ask you trusted chemist !!!!!!!!!!! > > > In Italy (where the commerce of alchool is almost free ....) it is the > > > only way to buy it . The isopropilic is an ordinary achool but 99% > > > PURE ! and this is making a big difference with 95% (for cooking and > > > drinks preparation) . > > > > > > >I'm not sure what you meant to say, BUT BE WARNED: Isopropyl alcohol, > >regardless of > >purity, is poisonous! Do NOT use it for cooking and drinking!!!!! > > > >Only ethyl alcohol is suitable for ingestion. > > > > > >Ol' Jim, hisself Enjoyin' the Space Coast of Florida > >hisself at ol-jim.com http://www.ol-jim.com > > > >An armed society is a polite society. > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > >To maintain your account please go here: > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > > > > Sincerely > > Ezio Lucenti > > Ezio's e-photography site www.lucenti.com > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From sarin at mit.edu Wed Jan 8 19:30:07 2003 From: sarin at mit.edu (Pradeep Sarin) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 13:30:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: [naktalk] Two newbie questions (related LX-3 and 250/350/550) Message-ID: Hi I am mostly a lurker/newbie, but I have greatly benefited from the collective wisdom of this list! I have two questions: 1) I recently acquired a 'fixer' LX-3 deck for playback purposes (I have a CR-7, which I use to record). The only thing wrong with it was that if you hit record, it would jam up - the seller claimed that by opening the deck and reseating a few levers, he could get it back. Well, it's been serving great duty as a playback deck, until my roommate accidentally hit record on it :( Now it is jammed! I opened it up in an attempt to reset the levers as the seller had said, but I am not quite clear on what to do. A motor on the bottom right of the deck seems to be running all the time that the deck is powered up. It does go into a weak rewind, but no playback/ff. The master motor/flywheels do turn when I hit play/ff, but the head/pinch roller assembly does not move up to engage (and the tape doesn't advance). I was hoping to get some troubleshooting help from you folks? I dearly love this deck and it would be great to have it back in working condition! 2) Does anyone have opinions/advice on the old 250/350/550 portable nakamichi decks? I am looking to get one for my nephew since he is interested in location recording. From the specs they look like they have a built in mic mixer, and are supposed to be pretty rugged. Any opinions on fidelity? Thanks in advance for any help/info you may be able to provide! Cheers - Pradeep From kannan_s at vsnl.com Wed Jan 8 20:05:56 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 00:35:56 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] Two newbie questions (related LX-3 and 250/350/550) Message-ID: <20030108190556.871F1114927@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From n.van.wijnen at home.nl Wed Jan 8 20:18:23 2003 From: n.van.wijnen at home.nl (norman van wijnen) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 20:18:23 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] RX505 service manual Message-ID: <001201c2b74a$b639cf20$0200a7c0@AsusT533> Hi Naktalkers, i've uploaded a high quality pdf version of the complete RX505 service manual. have fun with it Norman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sarin at mit.edu Wed Jan 8 21:19:15 2003 From: sarin at mit.edu (Pradeep Sarin) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 15:19:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: [naktalk] Re: Nakamichi LX-3 problem solved! In-Reply-To: <20030108190702.13904.64805.Mailman@zebra.naks.com> Message-ID: Hello all, Thanks for the quick info! The problem was solved using the helpful manuals provided - I desoldered the voltage input to the control-cam motor (to temporarily prevent it from turning - i didn't want to put it under too much strain). Then looked at the serrated cam-gear and sure enough it was stuck at the record position. A little bit of fiddling with a tiny latch preventing it from turning, and it came unloose. I have my beloved LX-3 working again. Hmm, now that I have the service manual, maybe I'll go ahead and check the alignments etc. Anything blatant I should look for? I am also thinking of disabling the record button permanently so that this mishap doesn't occur again! Now about my second question regarding the 250/350/550 series portable decks?... I am not particularly looking for a Nagra equivalent here, but rugged-ness and the built-in 3 channel mic mixer does make them sound like a good idea (pun intended). Cheers - pradeep From n.van.wijnen at home.nl Wed Jan 8 21:47:12 2003 From: n.van.wijnen at home.nl (norman van wijnen) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:47:12 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Nakamichi LX-3 problem solved! References: Message-ID: <001401c2b757$1ee1fdc0$0200a7c0@AsusT533> Hi, the problem can't be so big that you have to remove the record button. Go for the part of the manual to check if the cam wheel stands in the good position and check the rubber belt from the motor to the camwheel replace it if you suspect the belt. Hardened grease can be potential problem. Norman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pradeep Sarin" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:19 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Nakamichi LX-3 problem solved! > > Hello all, > > Thanks for the quick info! The problem was solved using the helpful > manuals provided - I desoldered the voltage input to the control-cam motor > (to temporarily prevent it from turning - i didn't want to put it under > too much strain). Then looked at the serrated cam-gear and sure enough it > was stuck at the record position. A little bit of fiddling with a tiny > latch preventing it from turning, and it came unloose. I have my beloved > LX-3 working again. > > Hmm, now that I have the service manual, maybe I'll go ahead and check the > alignments etc. Anything blatant I should look for? I am also thinking of > disabling the record button permanently so that this mishap doesn't occur > again! > > Now about my second question regarding the 250/350/550 series portable > decks?... I am not particularly looking for a Nagra equivalent here, but > rugged-ness and the built-in 3 channel mic mixer does make them sound like > a good idea (pun intended). > > Cheers - > > pradeep > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From kannan_s at vsnl.com Wed Jan 8 21:52:54 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 02:22:54 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] Re: Nakamichi LX-3 problem solved! Message-ID: <20030108205254.CB50F114950@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From hzl88 at msn.com Wed Jan 8 22:05:37 2003 From: hzl88 at msn.com (marc) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 16:05:37 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Two newbie questions (related LX-3 and 250/350/550) References: Message-ID: <013801c2b759$b2ef6140$a12e1943@Marc> As an owner of 2 550's, I can't say enough how great they are. But as mentioned earlier, the 550 is extremely bulky to cart around for on location recording, not to mention the 8 D-cells it takes to run the darn thing! And you can totally forget about stealth-taping a show! My personal choice for analog location taping is the Sony TC-D5m (Pro version has XLR mic inputs instead of 1/4" ), and you can always get a small mic mixer if you want to do a 3-mic blend. Uher makes some really nice portable cassette decks, but they are pretty hard to find in the US. Hope this helps, -Marc in NYC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pradeep Sarin" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 1:30 PM Subject: [naktalk] Two newbie questions (related LX-3 and 250/350/550) > > Hi > > I am mostly a lurker/newbie, but I have greatly benefited from the > collective wisdom of this list! I have two questions: > > 1) I recently acquired a 'fixer' LX-3 deck for playback purposes (I have a > CR-7, which I use to record). The only thing wrong with it was that > if you hit record, it would jam up - the seller claimed that > by opening the deck and reseating a few levers, he could get it back. > Well, it's been serving great duty as a playback deck, until my > roommate accidentally hit record on it :( > > Now it is jammed! I opened it up in an attempt to reset the levers > as the seller had said, but I am not quite clear on what to do. > A motor on the bottom right of the deck seems to be running all the > time that the deck is powered up. It does go into a weak rewind, > but no playback/ff. The master motor/flywheels do turn when I hit > play/ff, but the head/pinch roller assembly does not move up to engage > (and the tape doesn't advance). > > I was hoping to get some troubleshooting help from you folks? I dearly > love this deck and it would be great to have it back in working > condition! > > 2) Does anyone have opinions/advice on the old 250/350/550 portable nakamichi > decks? I am looking to get one for my nephew since he is interested > in location recording. From the specs they look like they have a built > in mic mixer, and are supposed to be pretty rugged. Any opinions on > fidelity? > > Thanks in advance for any help/info you may be able to provide! > > Cheers - > > Pradeep > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > From wjw at warwick.net Wed Jan 8 23:03:10 2003 From: wjw at warwick.net (Bill Wheatley) Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 17:03:10 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Dirty Heads - Using Commercial Cleaning Cassette ? References: <3E1C4872.9A66FBA9@rcn.com> Message-ID: <3E1CA01E.A65B7DD2@warwick.net> Yes- a fellow who serviced my video machine told me that the worst thing you can do to a VHS machine is to rent anything but the newest releases from a video shop, and , coming in a close 2nd, is to use a commercial head cleaning 'tape' (either wet or dry) to ruin...er... 'clean' the heads. Hooray for DVDs. Naks are really easy to clean using the good ol' isopropyl alcohol and cotton swab technique. On some models you can push the 'play' button after you remove the outside cover, and it will raise the heads a bit, to make them even easier to access for cleaning. Ron wrote: > > In general, cleaning tapes are abrasive and, as such, must > cause *some* wear on the heads. I bought one many years ago > and have only used it on the car cassette player -- very > sparingly and very carefully -- where it does do its job > as advertised. > > My horror story has to do with a VHS video cassette > recorder. Happened to an acquaintance of mine. He started > the cleaning cassette going when the phone rang... He > claimed the call only took 'a couple of seconds', but the > long and short of it was, when he came back, the heads had > joined their ancestors in cassette head heaven... Turned > out to be an extremely expensive head cleaning job. > > So, if you must use a cleaning tape, be very careful. Read > the instructions. Those I've seen had a warning to limit > cleaning time to 15 or 30 seconds. > > -- Ron > > Martin wrote: > > > > I just bought a commercial cleaning tape which I intend to use on my (second > > hand purchase) DR1 after it arrives. > > > > Anybody have experience on how this type of cleaning compares to the > > isopropyl alcohol cleaning recommended by Kannan ? > > > > Ideally, the professional cleaning tape is causing the least amount damage > > to the heads but I have a feeling that it could do more harm than good. > > > > Any comments from experienced Nak users very welcome !!! > > > > Martin > > > > ++++++++++++++++++ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > Ezio > > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:16 AM > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem > > > > You are right .... in Italy people has used that to prepare fake wine and > > spirits and many people had to be recovered in hospital ... it is because > > the isopropilic is containing methanole and ethanole together with ethilic > > .... and they are poisonous > > > > Ezio > > > > At 11:38 AM 1/7/03 -0500, you wrote: > > > > I strongly suggest you ask you trusted chemist !!!!!!!!!!! > > > > In Italy (where the commerce of alchool is almost free ....) it is the > > > > only way to buy it . The isopropilic is an ordinary achool but 99% > > > > PURE ! and this is making a big difference with 95% (for cooking and > > > > drinks preparation) . > > > > > > > > > >I'm not sure what you meant to say, BUT BE WARNED: Isopropyl alcohol, > > >regardless of > > >purity, is poisonous! Do NOT use it for cooking and drinking!!!!! > > > > > >Only ethyl alcohol is suitable for ingestion. > > > > > > > > >Ol' Jim, hisself Enjoyin' the Space Coast of Florida > > >hisself at ol-jim.com http://www.ol-jim.com > > > > > >An armed society is a polite society. > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > > ======== > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > >To maintain your account please go here: > > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > > ======== > > > > > > > Sincerely > > > > Ezio Lucenti > > > > Ezio's e-photography site www.lucenti.com > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From enoyes at snet.net Thu Jan 9 04:12:32 2003 From: enoyes at snet.net (Ed Noyes) Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 22:12:32 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Nakamichi LX-3 problem solved! References: Message-ID: <3E1CE89D.A5E7F065@snet.net> If you simply replace the cam control belt then the problem will most likely go away altogether as it's very common for them to stretch to the point where they just can't move the cam into position. Ed Pradeep Sarin wrote: > Hello all, > > Thanks for the quick info! The problem was solved using the helpful > manuals provided - I desoldered the voltage input to the control-cam motor > (to temporarily prevent it from turning - i didn't want to put it under > too much strain). Then looked at the serrated cam-gear and sure enough it > was stuck at the record position. A little bit of fiddling with a tiny > latch preventing it from turning, and it came unloose. I have my beloved > LX-3 working again. > > Hmm, now that I have the service manual, maybe I'll go ahead and check the > alignments etc. Anything blatant I should look for? I am also thinking of > disabling the record button permanently so that this mishap doesn't occur > again! > > Now about my second question regarding the 250/350/550 series portable > decks?... I am not particularly looking for a Nagra equivalent here, but > rugged-ness and the built-in 3 channel mic mixer does make them sound like > a good idea (pun intended). > > Cheers - > > pradeep > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From roleo at telus.net Thu Jan 9 04:52:33 2003 From: roleo at telus.net (Roland Alford) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 19:52:33 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon Dimensions Needed References: <004b01c2b0e8$6cca6560$8b05fad5@dusan> <3E121887.E4B86A02@rcn.com> <000701c2b1d6$a8ced480$05a2b742@desktop> <003e01c2b22f$551ce800$a4c661d8@primeevil> <000c01c2b274$126a9300$530ab0cb@honrado7ignxhf> Message-ID: <000f01c2b792$8ae4e4c0$05a2b742@desktop> I'm looking for a Nakamichi RC-4 Remote Signal Converter. If anyone has one they are interested in selling or knows where I can get one, I'd be interested in hearing from them offline @ roleo at telus.net Thanx, Roland -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noisi80 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 9 06:22:38 2003 From: noisi80 at yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?SANDRA=20MU=D1OZ?=) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 23:22:38 -0600 (CST) Subject: [naktalk] Nak RX-202 Message-ID: <20030109052238.91950.qmail@web21406.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I want to transfer some tapes to digital (24bits, 96k). I have access to a Nak RX-202 and a Technics RS-TR 333. My question is how are these 2 decks compared with the other higher-end naks like the Dragon ??? The tapes are TDK MA-XG, where recorded with a mid 90's Teac deck with Dolby C. Thanks in advance!!!! _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Información de Estados Unidos y América Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com From John at jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk Thu Jan 9 07:10:07 2003 From: John at jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk (John Walker) Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 06:10:07 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] RE: 680ZX high frequency problem References: <20030107064411.ED1C5114916@webmail.vsnl.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20030107134201.00a77d50@box.tin.it> Message-ID: <3E1D123F.8020600@jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk> Some points of clarification. Methyl, ethyl, isopropyl alchohols are different chemical compounds. They are closely related members of the same family (they are derived, respectively from methane, ethane and propane) but they have different properties: Methyl alcohol - AKA wood spirit. *Poisonous* Ethyl alcohol - the active constituent of alchoholic drinks, gets you p*ssed without physical harm (unless you fight, drive, or do it to excess over your lifetime) Isopropyl alchohol - this is the substance to use for cleaning heads, records etc. Cannot be obtained (in the UK) from a pharmacy. I get mine from Maplin - outside UK, try Tandy, Radio Shack, Radio Spares. Buy it pure, and dilute with distilled or deionised water to clean records. I have used it to clean my stylus without damage to the glue, despite dire warnings posted on this group. Methylated spirits, also known as denatured alchohol - this is commonly available, and is used as a solvent and a fuel. It consists of pure *ethyl* alcohol to which a proportion of methyl alcohol has been added to render it undrinkable by humans. Unfortunately, some do. I understand that connoisseurs prefer the 'pink' to the 'blue'. John Walker From stan.targowski at attbi.com Thu Jan 9 16:28:45 2003 From: stan.targowski at attbi.com (Stan Targowski) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 09:28:45 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Nak RX-202 In-Reply-To: <20030109052238.91950.qmail@web21406.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sandra - The right match between playback head azymuth and Dolby C circuits is critical. You can address the azymuth, there isn't much you can do re: Dolby C compatibility. In your particular situation, when you do not have access to the original TEAC unit used for recording, the best deck for the purpose would be one with playback azymuth control - Dragon in particular. NAK 202 is a much better unit than the Technics RS-TR333, but there exists a possibility that Technics can play the TEAC made tapes better. My recommendation would be to listen to your tapes on both decks and see which one plays them better. Stan -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of SANDRA MUÑOZ Sent: Wed, January 08, 2003 11:23 PM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Nak RX-202 Hi, I want to transfer some tapes to digital (24bits, 96k). I have access to a Nak RX-202 and a Technics RS-TR 333. My question is how are these 2 decks compared with the other higher-end naks like the Dragon ??? The tapes are TDK MA-XG, where recorded with a mid 90's Teac deck with Dolby C. Thanks in advance!!!! _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Información de Estados Unidos y América Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From nicy at ya.com Thu Jan 9 17:17:24 2003 From: nicy at ya.com (JGascon) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 17:17:24 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Nak RX-202 References: Message-ID: <001c01c2b7fa$a406a0c0$8f2b3b50@PcComunero> Hi all, A question about ZX. I know there is no visable switch on the back of the machine however I´ve been told that the specification page under the heading power source reads----"100,120, 120/220-240, 220 or 240V AC; 50/60Hz (According to country of sale). Does it means it can easily be switched to 220vols? Someone has purchased a 110volts ZX-7 and changed it to 220volts? And ZX-9? Javier. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Targowski" To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:28 PM Subject: RE: [naktalk] Nak RX-202 > Sandra - > > The right match between playback head azymuth and Dolby C circuits is > critical. You can address the azymuth, there isn't much you can do re: Dolby > C compatibility. > > In your particular situation, when you do not have access to the original > TEAC unit used for recording, the best deck for the purpose would be one > with playback azymuth control - Dragon in particular. > > NAK 202 is a much better unit than the Technics RS-TR333, but there exists a > possibility that Technics can play the TEAC made tapes better. > > My recommendation would be to listen to your tapes on both decks and see > which one plays them better. > > Stan > > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > SANDRA MUÑOZ > Sent: Wed, January 08, 2003 11:23 PM > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] Nak RX-202 > > > Hi, > > I want to transfer some tapes to digital (24bits, > 96k). I have access to a Nak RX-202 and a > Technics RS-TR 333. My question is how are these > 2 decks compared with the other higher-end naks > like the Dragon ??? > > The tapes are TDK MA-XG, where recorded with a > mid 90's Teac deck with Dolby C. > > > > Thanks in advance!!!! > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Información de Estados Unidos y América Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. > Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > From ra.ah at rcn.com Thu Jan 9 18:32:54 2003 From: ra.ah at rcn.com (Ron) Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 12:32:54 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Nak RX-202 References: <001c01c2b7fa$a406a0c0$8f2b3b50@PcComunero> Message-ID: <3E1DB246.EB29E181@rcn.com> I don't know about your particular ZX, but this specification would imply that there are 3 different versions. This is similar to the CR-7, with which I am familiar. 1. 110V (i.e. CR-7a, for the US market) 2. 220V or 240V (i.e. CR-7e, for the European market) 3. 110V, 220V or 240V (i.e. CR-7, for other markets). Line voltage selection in CR-7e is done by jumpers, internally. In CR-7, Selection between 110V and 220V is done with a switch, and selection between 220V and 240V is done internally, with a jumper. Hope this helps, -- Ron JGascon wrote: > > Hi all, > A question about ZX. I know there is no visable switch on the back of the > machine however I´ve been told that the specification page under the heading > power source reads----"100,120, > 120/220-240, 220 or 240V AC; 50/60Hz (According to country of sale). > Does it means it can easily be switched to 220vols? > Someone has purchased a 110volts ZX-7 and changed it to 220volts? > And ZX-9? > Javier. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stan Targowski" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:28 PM > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Nak RX-202 > > > Sandra - > > > > The right match between playback head azymuth and Dolby C circuits is > > critical. You can address the azymuth, there isn't much you can do re: > Dolby > > C compatibility. > > > > In your particular situation, when you do not have access to the original > > TEAC unit used for recording, the best deck for the purpose would be one > > with playback azymuth control - Dragon in particular. > > > > NAK 202 is a much better unit than the Technics RS-TR333, but there exists > a > > possibility that Technics can play the TEAC made tapes better. > > > > My recommendation would be to listen to your tapes on both decks and see > > which one plays them better. > > > > Stan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > SANDRA MUÑOZ > > Sent: Wed, January 08, 2003 11:23 PM > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: [naktalk] Nak RX-202 > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I want to transfer some tapes to digital (24bits, > > 96k). I have access to a Nak RX-202 and a > > Technics RS-TR 333. My question is how are these > > 2 decks compared with the other higher-end naks > > like the Dragon ??? > > > > The tapes are TDK MA-XG, where recorded with a > > mid 90's Teac deck with Dolby C. > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance!!!! > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Información de Estados Unidos y América Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. > > Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From roleo at telus.net Thu Jan 9 18:41:37 2003 From: roleo at telus.net (Roland Alford) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 09:41:37 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Nak RX-202 References: <001c01c2b7fa$a406a0c0$8f2b3b50@PcComunero> Message-ID: <002801c2b806$5cbe86e0$05a2b742@desktop> Not sure about the RX-202, however, I recently purchased a TASCAM Pro CD Recorder designed for use in a 220v environment, whereas I live in North America with a 110v supply. I called TEAC/TASCAM and they faxed me over the schematics to make the switch. Just took changing a jumper soldered at one point at switched it to another on one of the boards. Make sure you know what you are doing first though otherwise you could be sorry. Best to get a schematic before starting. --Roland ----- Original Message ----- From: "JGascon" To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nak RX-202 > Hi all, > A question about ZX. I know there is no visable switch on the back of the > machine however I´ve been told that the specification page under the heading > power source reads----"100,120, > 120/220-240, 220 or 240V AC; 50/60Hz (According to country of sale). > Does it means it can easily be switched to 220vols? > Someone has purchased a 110volts ZX-7 and changed it to 220volts? > And ZX-9? > Javier. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stan Targowski" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:28 PM > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Nak RX-202 > > > > Sandra - > > > > The right match between playback head azymuth and Dolby C circuits is > > critical. You can address the azymuth, there isn't much you can do re: > Dolby > > C compatibility. > > > > In your particular situation, when you do not have access to the original > > TEAC unit used for recording, the best deck for the purpose would be one > > with playback azymuth control - Dragon in particular. > > > > NAK 202 is a much better unit than the Technics RS-TR333, but there exists > a > > possibility that Technics can play the TEAC made tapes better. > > > > My recommendation would be to listen to your tapes on both decks and see > > which one plays them better. > > > > Stan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > SANDRA MUÑOZ > > Sent: Wed, January 08, 2003 11:23 PM > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: [naktalk] Nak RX-202 > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I want to transfer some tapes to digital (24bits, > > 96k). I have access to a Nak RX-202 and a > > Technics RS-TR 333. My question is how are these > > 2 decks compared with the other higher-end naks > > like the Dragon ??? > > > > The tapes are TDK MA-XG, where recorded with a > > mid 90's Teac deck with Dolby C. > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance!!!! > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Información de Estados Unidos y América Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. > > Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > From nicy at ya.com Thu Jan 9 19:09:28 2003 From: nicy at ya.com (JGascon) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 19:09:28 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7, ZX-9 voltage selector. References: <001c01c2b7fa$a406a0c0$8f2b3b50@PcComunero> <002801c2b806$5cbe86e0$05a2b742@desktop> Message-ID: <001501c2b80a$4c9df800$8f2b3b50@PcComunero> Hi again, What I want to know is if every ZX-7 and ZX-9 deck has de voltage selector at the back (or changing a jumper...) Javier. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roland Alford" To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nak RX-202 > Not sure about the RX-202, however, I recently purchased a TASCAM Pro CD > Recorder designed for use in a 220v environment, whereas I live in North > America with a 110v supply. > > I called TEAC/TASCAM and they faxed me over the schematics to make the > switch. Just took changing a jumper soldered at one point at switched it to > another on one of the boards. > > Make sure you know what you are doing first though otherwise you could be > sorry. Best to get a schematic before starting. > > --Roland > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JGascon" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 8:17 AM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nak RX-202 > > > > Hi all, > > A question about ZX. I know there is no visable switch on the back of the > > machine however I´ve been told that the specification page under the > heading > > power source reads----"100,120, > > 120/220-240, 220 or 240V AC; 50/60Hz (According to country of sale). > > Does it means it can easily be switched to 220vols? > > Someone has purchased a 110volts ZX-7 and changed it to 220volts? > > And ZX-9? > > Javier. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Stan Targowski" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:28 PM > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Nak RX-202 > > > > > > > Sandra - > > > > > > The right match between playback head azymuth and Dolby C circuits is > > > critical. You can address the azymuth, there isn't much you can do re: > > Dolby > > > C compatibility. > > > > > > In your particular situation, when you do not have access to the > original > > > TEAC unit used for recording, the best deck for the purpose would be one > > > with playback azymuth control - Dragon in particular. > > > > > > NAK 202 is a much better unit than the Technics RS-TR333, but there > exists > > a > > > possibility that Technics can play the TEAC made tapes better. > > > > > > My recommendation would be to listen to your tapes on both decks and see > > > which one plays them better. > > > > > > Stan > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > > SANDRA MUÑOZ > > > Sent: Wed, January 08, 2003 11:23 PM > > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > > Subject: [naktalk] Nak RX-202 > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I want to transfer some tapes to digital (24bits, > > > 96k). I have access to a Nak RX-202 and a > > > Technics RS-TR 333. My question is how are these > > > 2 decks compared with the other higher-end naks > > > like the Dragon ??? > > > > > > The tapes are TDK MA-XG, where recorded with a > > > mid 90's Teac deck with Dolby C. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Información de Estados Unidos y América Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. > > > Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > > ======= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > To maintain your account please go here: > > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > > ======= > > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > To maintain your account please go here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > From kannan_s at vsnl.com Thu Jan 9 20:05:30 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 00:35:30 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7, ZX-9 voltage selector. Message-ID: <20030109190530.2CC42114904@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From nicy at ya.com Thu Jan 9 20:28:39 2003 From: nicy at ya.com (JGascon) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 20:28:39 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7, ZX-9 voltage selector. References: <20030109190530.2CC42114904@webmail.vsnl.com> Message-ID: <003101c2b815$59a673a0$8f2b3b50@PcComunero> Thanks Kannan, anyway the ZX-9 owners manual shows that switch. That´s why I thought all ZX-9 decks had it. Javier. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7, ZX-9 voltage selector. > No , only Asian Models of all Nakamichi have this change over switch. I was infact believed that all Dragons had this change over switch at the back. But I see large numbers of US dragons with only 110 V input only. Anyway the service manual clearly shows this inffo. > There can be exceptions to very old Naks like 1000 model? > Kannan > > nicy at ya.com wrote > Hi again, > What I want to know is if every ZX-7 and ZX-9 deck has de voltage selector > at the back (or changing a jumper...) > Javier. > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > From alex at autoconsortium.com Thu Jan 9 22:05:05 2003 From: alex at autoconsortium.com (Alex Cagann) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:05:05 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] sticky Dragon In-Reply-To: <015501c2b6c1$fba47e40$173442cf@steve> Message-ID: I wanted to thank everyone who gave me a suggestions on fixing the Dragon. I haven't had a chance to get into her yet, but I will soon, and I'll let you know how it went. Thanks again for your ongoing help. Stephen, nice to hear from you, I haven't seen you around in a bit. By the way, my mother is looking for an old turntable to play her extensive record collection she inhereted from her father. I see you have a couple for sale. I will try and talk her into the Dual and give you a call soon! Alex Cagann http://www.autoconsortium.com From jmtooley at ce.net Fri Jan 10 02:56:53 2003 From: jmtooley at ce.net (John M. Tooley) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 20:56:53 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7, ZX-9 voltage selector. References: <20030109190530.2CC42114904@webmail.vsnl.com> Message-ID: <032d01c2b84b$8c8c7b30$54106343@johnnyrotten> My Nak. 700 ZXL machine shipped from UK to Stephen here in US is 220 volt only. John T. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7, ZX-9 voltage selector. > No , only Asian Models of all Nakamichi have this change over switch. I was infact believed that all Dragons had this change over switch at the back. But I see large numbers of US dragons with only 110 V input only. Anyway the service manual clearly shows this inffo. > There can be exceptions to very old Naks like 1000 model? > Kannan > > nicy at ya.com wrote > Hi again, > What I want to know is if every ZX-7 and ZX-9 deck has de voltage selector > at the back (or changing a jumper...) > Javier. > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > > From ezio_lucenti at tin.it Fri Jan 10 03:27:24 2003 From: ezio_lucenti at tin.it (Ezio) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 03:27:24 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Nak RX-202 In-Reply-To: <001c01c2b7fa$a406a0c0$8f2b3b50@PcComunero> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030110032424.00ab8ec0@box.tin.it> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 75541.100 at compuserve.com Fri Jan 10 09:29:12 2003 From: 75541.100 at compuserve.com (compudude) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 03:29:12 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] 700ZXE recording problem -- Orange caps indeed! Message-ID: <200301100329_MC3-1-2368-13DD@compuserve.com> Hello, Last year in August I have described a problem I was having with my 700zxe: The auto-calibration circuit was not working on Metal cassettes. At that time Stephen Sank suggested me to replace the orange caps at the bias oscillator circuit. Finally this week I had time to do this repair, which fixed the problem! It is hard to believe that those shiny, clean looking caps are gone bad. By the way, later last year the deck started to fail auto calibrating CrO2 cassettes and finally the Normal type. That also proves the speculation about gradual degradation of the orange caps. In the mean time I also obtained an old oscilloscope and I could observe the signal going into the erase head. Before changing the caps it was a periodical pulse around 40kHz, after the fix it is a clean 105kHz sinewave. Now the next problem in line: The external Dolby-C module NR100 does not sound right, especially when playing DolbyC tapes recorded on other decks. Record/playback with Dolby-C on 700zxe itself is also not very good, there is an obvious loss of the high frequency content. NR100 does not have any adjustments inside, but lot of orange-caps! The question is, is it the orange-cap disease as well or NR100 supposed to sound bad? Thanks again to all experts and a happy new year! _Fuad From nicy at ya.com Fri Jan 10 09:38:01 2003 From: nicy at ya.com (JGascon) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:38:01 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7, ZX-9 voltage selector. References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030110032424.00ab8ec0@box.tin.it> Message-ID: <001901c2b883$9ca3c400$8f2b3b50@PcComunero> Thanks John and Ezio. I think we both have the same problem in Spain and Italy. With all those american purchased Naks you must have paid a fortune in italian customs. In Spain I must pay 16% IVA + custom fees, so I think it´s better to look for in german market. Javier ----- Original Message ----- From: Ezio To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 3:27 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nak RX-202 I have purchased many Naks (6) 682, Dragon, 700LXE etc. in the USA and 5 out of 6 where having the switch .... and I switched .... he he he ;o) ... This is my experience. Anyhow .... a power supply from US to EU standard (220/230 Volt 50Hz ) is available at any electronic shop for about 20$ ... if needed. Ezio At 05:17 PM 1/9/03 +0100, you wrote: Hi all, A question about ZX. I know there is no visable switch on the back of the machine however I´ve been told that the specification page under the heading power source reads----"100,120, 120/220-240, 220 or 240V AC; 50/60Hz (According to country of sale). Does it means it can easily be switched to 220vols? Someone has purchased a 110volts ZX-7 and changed it to 220volts? And ZX-9? Javier. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Targowski" To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:28 PM Subject: RE: [naktalk] Nak RX-202 > Sandra - > > The right match between playback head azymuth and Dolby C circuits is > critical. You can address the azymuth, there isn't much you can do re: Dolby > C compatibility. > > In your particular situation, when you do not have access to the original > TEAC unit used for recording, the best deck for the purpose would be one > with playback azymuth control - Dragon in particular. > > NAK 202 is a much better unit than the Technics RS-TR333, but there exists a > possibility that Technics can play the TEAC made tapes better. > > My recommendation would be to listen to your tapes on both decks and see > which one plays them better. > > Stan > > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > SANDRA MUÑOZ > Sent: Wed, January 08, 2003 11:23 PM > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] Nak RX-202 > > > Hi, > > I want to transfer some tapes to digital (24bits, > 96k). I have access to a Nak RX-202 and a > Technics RS-TR 333. My question is how are these > 2 decks compared with the other higher-end naks > like the Dragon ??? > > The tapes are TDK MA-XG, where recorded with a > mid 90's Teac deck with Dolby C. > > > > Thanks in advance!!!! > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Información de Estados Unidos y América Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. > Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= Sincerely Ezio Lucenti Ezio's e-photography site http://space.virgilio.it/ezluce/index.html ===-----------------------------------------------------------------=== Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ===-----------------------------------------------------------------=== -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wheijke at xs4all.nl Fri Jan 10 10:27:41 2003 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (wheijke at xs4all.nl) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 10:27:41 +0100 (CET) Subject: [naktalk] Orange caps manual? Message-ID: <7717.62.72.223.42.1042190861.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> Isn't it an idea that the 'Orange caps' experts on the list write some sort of manual for the 'dummies' under us how to spot an orange cap and how to replace it and with what preferred type of new component? And maybe also a description per model? It could be a growing document that I could serve on the Naks.com server and could be of great help to all of us experts on electronics or not! Any thoughts? Wouter From nicy at ya.com Fri Jan 10 10:56:12 2003 From: nicy at ya.com (JGascon) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 10:56:12 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Orange caps manual? References: <7717.62.72.223.42.1042190861.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <003301c2b88e$89195200$8f2b3b50@PcComunero> A great idea Wouter!!. If the experts do that I would have no doubt about purchansing a "new" ZX-9 and change the caps. Also I think it would help if all of us take pics of the inside of our decks to ilustrate their descriptions. Would you be able to place it in your server? Javier. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 10:27 AM Subject: [naktalk] Orange caps manual? > Isn't it an idea that the 'Orange caps' experts on the list write some > sort of manual for the 'dummies' under us how to spot an orange cap and > how to replace it and with what preferred type of new component? > And maybe also a description per model? > It could be a growing document that I could serve on the Naks.com server > and could be of great help to all of us experts on electronics or not! > > Any thoughts? > > Wouter > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > From wheijke at xs4all.nl Fri Jan 10 11:47:01 2003 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (wheijke at xs4all.nl) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:47:01 +0100 (CET) Subject: [naktalk] Orange caps manual? In-Reply-To: <003301c2b88e$89195200$8f2b3b50@PcComunero> References: <7717.62.72.223.42.1042190861.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> <003301c2b88e$89195200$8f2b3b50@PcComunero> Message-ID: <9796.62.72.223.42.1042195621.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> Thanks! Being not a great technician, but knowing how to solder, i can replace those caps also if i know where they are and with what part to replace them! Pics would be useful also. I could put everything on a special part of the website and i would say as much information as possible to illustrate how to successfully complete the task. This could also apply to other maintanance that has to be done to our beloved Naks now and then... Head cleaning for instance, a trival thing for most of us but for a newbe a difficult thing to do ;-) It would be great for me also to finally be able to record a tape on my ZX9... since one (or more) of it's caps clearly has died... Wouter > A great idea Wouter!!. If the experts do that I would have no doubt about > purchansing a "new" ZX-9 and change the caps. Also I think it would help > if > all of us take pics of the inside of our decks to ilustrate their > descriptions. Would you be able to place it in your server? > Javier. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 10:27 AM > Subject: [naktalk] Orange caps manual? > > >> Isn't it an idea that the 'Orange caps' experts on the list write some >> sort of manual for the 'dummies' under us how to spot an orange cap and >> how to replace it and with what preferred type of new component? >> And maybe also a description per model? >> It could be a growing document that I could serve on the Naks.com server >> and could be of great help to all of us experts on electronics or not! >> >> Any thoughts? >> >> Wouter >> > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= >> Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >> To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= >> > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > From j.soulantikas at chello.nl Fri Jan 10 10:24:32 2003 From: j.soulantikas at chello.nl (Jannis) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 10:24:32 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] RX505 service manual References: <001201c2b74a$b639cf20$0200a7c0@AsusT533> Message-ID: <002601c2b88a$15c5aff0$13945dd5@computer1> Happy new year to you all Can someone please repeat the new pasword for the manuals section? Jannis ----- Original Message ----- From: norman van wijnen To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 8:18 PM Subject: [naktalk] RX505 service manual Hi Naktalkers, i've uploaded a high quality pdf version of the complete RX505 service manual. have fun with it Norman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kannan_s at vsnl.com Fri Jan 10 18:31:11 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 23:01:11 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] Orange caps manual? Message-ID: <20030110173111.619DA114917@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Fri Jan 10 19:08:47 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 18:08:47 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Orange caps manual? In-Reply-To: <7717.62.72.223.42.1042190861.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <000601c2b8d3$520ba3e0$19a9193e@oemcomputer> Yes please! A Dummy > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > wheijke at xs4all.nl > Sent: 10 January 2003 09:28 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] Orange caps manual? > > > Isn't it an idea that the 'Orange caps' experts on the list write some > sort of manual for the 'dummies' under us how to spot an orange cap and > how to replace it and with what preferred type of new component? > And maybe also a description per model? > It could be a growing document that I could serve on the Naks.com server > and could be of great help to all of us experts on electronics or not! > > Any thoughts? > > Wouter > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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URL: From wheijke at xs4all.nl Fri Jan 10 20:13:54 2003 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:13:54 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] REQ: Support site update References: <3E08D34D.60FA809C@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <3E1F1B71.775363E0@xs4all.nl> Here it is once again, Wouter Wouter Heijke wrote: > I've just changed the login for the support site: > > http://support.naks.com/support > > username: naktalk > password: dragon > > Enjoy! > > Wouter > From wheijke at xs4all.nl Fri Jan 10 20:54:17 2003 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:54:17 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Orange caps manual? References: <20030110173111.619DA114917@webmail.vsnl.com> Message-ID: <3E1F24E9.E512DFCA@xs4all.nl> Hi Kannan, Great news! It would be great if you can describe what has to be done step-by-step, preferrably documented by pictures. One time i upgraded my cd player like this with an lcaudio clock (great modification btw!) But i can imagine that we could add steps or pictures to the document once more people are doing the upgrades... I also have a digital camera so i could take pictures while changing the caps in my deck(s) also! Wouter kannan_s at vsnl.com wrote: > Hi Wouter > Thanks for showing your head in Naktalk these days - after a long period of silence. > I have already took out those Orange caps and kept them for my Digital photo on this week end. Let me also take photos of alternate caps for this purpose ( thank my brother who owns this 5Mpixel camera!) > Let me make a write up of what to do for Bias Oscillator circuit and send it to you. You may have to get it converted to a suitable file format before placing them on the server. > If necessary somebody like Stephen can check it out/ edit before placing them on the server. Hope this helps > Kannan > wheijke at xs4all.nl > wrote > Thanks! > Being not a great technician, but knowing how to solder, i can replace > those caps also if i know where they are and with what part to replace > them! > Pics would be useful also. > I could put everything on a special part of the website and i would say as > much information as possible to illustrate how to successfully complete > the task. > This could also apply to other maintanance that has to be done to our > beloved Naks now and then... > Head cleaning for instance, a trival thing for most of us but for a newbe > a difficult thing to do ;-) > > It would be great for me also to finally be able to record a tape on my > ZX9... since one (or more) of it's caps clearly has died... > > Wouter > > > A great idea Wouter!!. If the experts do that I would have no doubt about > > purchansing a "new" ZX-9 and change the caps. Also I think it would help > > if > > all of us take pics of the inside of our decks to ilustrate their > > descriptions. Would you be able to place it in your server? > > Javier. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 10:27 AM > > Subject: [naktalk] Orange caps manual? > > > > > >> Isn't it an idea that the 'Orange caps' experts on the list write some > >> sort of manual for the 'dummies' under us how to spot an orange cap and > >> how to replace it and with what preferred type of new component? > >> And maybe also a description per model? > >> It could be a growing document that I could serve on the Naks.com server > >> and could be of great help to all of us experts on electronics or not! > >> > >> Any thoughts? > >> > >> Wouter > >> > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > >> Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > >> To maintain your account please go here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >> > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > >> > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From kannan_s at vsnl.com Fri Jan 10 21:35:03 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 02:05:03 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] Orange caps manual? Message-ID: <20030110203503.E188D11491B@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From fredmoss at totalise.co.uk Sat Jan 11 01:48:28 2003 From: fredmoss at totalise.co.uk (FRED MOSS) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 00:48:28 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Orange caps manual? Message-ID: <3E3C0E2B@mail.totalise.co.uk> >Or perhaps the store to get the replacements from! I had orange cap disease on an nr200 and could not find the correct value anywhere in the usual places in the U.K. Fred ===== Original Message From "Graham Nelson" ===== >Yes please! > >A Dummy > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of >> wheijke at xs4all.nl >> Sent: 10 January 2003 09:28 >> To: naktalk at naks.com >> Subject: [naktalk] Orange caps manual? >> >> >> Isn't it an idea that the 'Orange caps' experts on the list write some >> sort of manual for the 'dummies' under us how to spot an orange cap and >> how to replace it and with what preferred type of new component? >> And maybe also a description per model? >> It could be a growing document that I could serve on the Naks.com server >> and could be of great help to all of us experts on electronics or not! >> >> Any thoughts? >> >> Wouter >> >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 30/12/02 > >========------------------------------------------------------------------=== ====== > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------=== ====== Totalise - the Users ISP ---------------------- To become a member and a shareholder visit http://www.totalise.net From blueswapper at angelfire.com Sat Jan 11 02:56:52 2003 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 17:56:52 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Happy New Year!!! (Nak brochures posted) Message-ID: Well, I've finally found some extra time to process a few more pages of Nakamichi cassette deck brochures. Sent a selection to Wouter during late December (ZX-9, RX-202, TD-500/700), which are now available on the FTP website. Also, for those who enjoy viewing obscurities, I finished the posting of the Nak 550 (Versatile Cassette System) brochure on my Nak CyberSpot website: http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/nak550a.html In the coming weeks, I intend to post the Nak DR 1/2/3 and Dragon cassette deck brochures. Other selections as time and disc space permit. Please, if anyone has a color brochure of the T-100 Audio Analyzer, kindly contact me for discussion. Happy New Year!!! K.J. Bleus Madison, Wisc USA --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus From n.van.wijnen at home.nl Sat Jan 11 17:37:03 2003 From: n.van.wijnen at home.nl (norman van wijnen) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 17:37:03 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Orange caps manual? References: <7717.62.72.223.42.1042190861.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <001b01c2b98f$abb76520$0400a7c0@AsusT533> very good idea, Norman ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 10:27 Subject: [naktalk] Orange caps manual? > Isn't it an idea that the 'Orange caps' experts on the list write some > sort of manual for the 'dummies' under us how to spot an orange cap and > how to replace it and with what preferred type of new component? > And maybe also a description per model? > It could be a growing document that I could serve on the Naks.com server > and could be of great help to all of us experts on electronics or not! > > Any thoughts? > > Wouter > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From 75541.100 at compuserve.com Sat Jan 11 22:34:56 2003 From: 75541.100 at compuserve.com (Compudude) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 16:34:56 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Orange cap pics Message-ID: <200301111635_MC3-1-2430-D23@compuserve.com> Hi Wouter, I can e-mail you couple pictures of the 700zxe board I just repaired, before I close the cover. _Fuad Message text written by INTERNET:naktalk at naks.com > Thanks! Being not a great technician, but knowing how to solder, i can replace those caps also if i know where they are and with what part to replace them! Pics would be useful also. I could put everything on a special part of the website and i would say as much information as possible to illustrate how to successfully complete the task. This could also apply to other maintanance that has to be done to our beloved Naks now and then... Head cleaning for instance, a trival thing for most of us but for a newbe a difficult thing to do ;-) It would be great for me also to finally be able to record a tape on my ZX9... since one (or more) of it's caps clearly has died... Wouter < From John at jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk Sat Jan 11 23:01:45 2003 From: John at jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk (John Walker) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:01:45 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 MkII Message-ID: <3E209449.3090003@jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk> Hello everyone my Nak 700 Mk II broke its reel hub belt recently. Can any of you tell me where I can get a replacement? I would also like to strip it down, clean it , and realign it. Could anyone help me to get a copy of the service manual? I am willing to pay a reasonable amount for either of these items. (PS: I have already made the same request of B&W Worthing.) John Walker Portland UK From wheijke at xs4all.nl Sun Jan 12 11:49:15 2003 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 11:49:15 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Orange cap pics References: <200301111635_MC3-1-2430-D23@compuserve.com> Message-ID: <3E21482B.374CEA68@xs4all.nl> Hi Fuad, Those pictures are welcome! Just mail them to me at wheijke at xs4all.nl Thanks, Wouter Compudude wrote: > Hi Wouter, > I can e-mail you couple pictures of the 700zxe board I just repaired, > before I close the cover. > _Fuad > > Message text written by INTERNET:naktalk at naks.com > > > > Thanks! > Being not a great technician, but knowing how to solder, i can replace > those caps also if i know where they are and with what part to replace > them! > Pics would be useful also. > I could put everything on a special part of the website and i would say as > much information as possible to illustrate how to successfully complete > the task. > This could also apply to other maintanance that has to be done to our > beloved Naks now and then... > Head cleaning for instance, a trival thing for most of us but for a newbe > a difficult thing to do ;-) > > It would be great for me also to finally be able to record a tape on my > ZX9... since one (or more) of it's caps clearly has died... > > Wouter > < > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From m.raven at chello.nl Mon Jan 13 02:04:51 2003 From: m.raven at chello.nl (Maurits) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 02:04:51 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 MkII References: <3E209449.3090003@jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk> Message-ID: <00b101c2ba9f$c68a3d30$9e3cbbd4@raveneql1a1eu0> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Walker" To: Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 11:01 PM Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 MkII > Hello everyone > my Nak 700 Mk II broke its reel hub belt recently. Can any of you tell > me where I can get a replacement? I would also like to strip it down, > clean it , and realign it. Could anyone help me to get a copy of the > service manual? I am willing to pay a reasonable amount for either of > these items. Simply take the belt to a repairshop or other store. They measure the right lenght on a round mall and determine witch replacement will fit best. But you can try original Nak representatives as well. Only the cost will be higher , according to other sources Nak belts are not made of a hi-quality made rubber. > (PS: I have already made the same request of B&W Worthing.) Nice company, I own six items, DM2-II, 802 and DM7) (I have to replace a diafragm for a tweeter and repair a suspension kevlar woofer one of these days!) http://www.audioconsultants.com/index.html These guys has older B&W types in stock at high prices...... Maurits From aaanandam at yahoo.com Tue Jan 14 02:05:39 2003 From: aaanandam at yahoo.com (Anand.R.Sharma) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 17:05:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] Most "Reliable" Nak ? Message-ID: <20030114010539.16505.qmail@web20415.mail.yahoo.com> Friends - A novice question ! Which is the most "reliable" Nak Tape Deck for long-lasting, relatively maintenance-free performance ? Should I get a used Dragon, ZX9 or a CR7A ? Thanks in advance for your time. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aaanandam at yahoo.com Tue Jan 14 02:05:58 2003 From: aaanandam at yahoo.com (Anand.R.Sharma) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 17:05:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] Most "Reliable" Nak ? Message-ID: <20030114010558.95393.qmail@web20421.mail.yahoo.com> Friends - A novice question ! Which is the most "reliable" Nak Tape Deck for long-lasting, relatively maintenance-free performance ? Should I get a used Dragon, ZX9 or a CR7A ? Thanks in advance for your time. Anand --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stan.targowski at attbi.com Tue Jan 14 02:49:58 2003 From: stan.targowski at attbi.com (Stan Targowski) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 19:49:58 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Most "Reliable" Nak ? In-Reply-To: <20030114010558.95393.qmail@web20421.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: From cvshanson at sprintmail.com Tue Jan 14 04:13:23 2003 From: cvshanson at sprintmail.com (Vernon T. Hanson) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 21:13:23 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Most "Reliable" Nak ? In-Reply-To: <20030114010539.16505.qmail@web20415.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I have an old 600 that just keeps working without any problems for over 10 years now. I would call that reliable! Of course, My 500 is pretty reliable also but I have only had less than 7 years experience with it. Vern Hanson (aka: VideoVern) Minneapolis, MN From enoyes at snet.net Tue Jan 14 04:20:40 2003 From: enoyes at snet.net (Ed Noyes) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 22:20:40 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Most "Reliable" Nak ? References: Message-ID: <3E238206.377ECE5B@snet.net> I was going to say that in absolute terms a 582 or LX-5 would be among the most reliable Naks ever made. In a nutshell, there's nothing really exotic and complex in these models to go wrong. From the decks listed I would probably say the CR7A. It's a newer deck than the others and has generally shown a very low failure rate. Ed Stan Targowski wrote: > From the 3 listed (Dragon, CR7A, ZX9), I would think that ZX9 would > be the most "reliable" as it has the least electronic > complexities. Taking it to the extreme, a 480 or BX1 could be even > more "reliable".Stan > > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com > [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of Anand.R.Sharma > Sent: Mon, January 13, 2003 7:06 PM > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] Most "Reliable" Nak ? > > Friends - A novice question ! Which is the most "reliable" > Nak Tape Deck for long-lasting, relatively maintenance-free > performance ? Should I get a used Dragon, ZX9 or a CR7A ? > Thanks in advance for your time. Anand > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cvshanson at sprintmail.com Tue Jan 14 15:24:18 2003 From: cvshanson at sprintmail.com (Vernon T. Hanson) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 08:24:18 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Most "Reliable" Nak ? In-Reply-To: <3E238206.377ECE5B@snet.net> Message-ID: I could second Stan's comment about the BX1. I have three of them. The one in my home system doesn't get much use but I also have one in a sound reinforcement system that is on the road quite a bit. After about five years use I haven't had any hiccups. The third one is a spare that I have not needed so far. Vern Hanson (aka: videovern) Minneapolis, MN From sandorpistike at hotmail.com Tue Jan 14 16:01:25 2003 From: sandorpistike at hotmail.com (Sndor Istvn) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:01:25 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning Message-ID: Hello all! I have a probably novice question. I have a ZX7. On this machine you can tune the azimuth while recording (more accurately: while tape-calibration). Does it tune only the record head, or both record and playback heads? If it tunes only the record head, does it make "misalignment" between the record and the playback head? If it tunes both heads, what can I do to get the best quality of sound, if I have several type of tapes with several azimuth-calibration? Shall I "retune" the playback (or both) heads before playing any different tapes? Otherwise I am realyy satisfied this deck, I am just waiting to my wife to bring me the just-bought RX505E. I am so excited to listen it! Best regards, and sorry for my "difficult" English. Istv�n S�ndor (You can refer me as Steve, if you like...) _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From ra.ah at rcn.com Tue Jan 14 16:12:19 2003 From: ra.ah at rcn.com (Ron) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 10:12:19 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Most "Reliable" Nak ? References: <20030114010539.16505.qmail@web20415.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3E2428D3.8E2FF4C3@rcn.com> From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Tue Jan 14 03:14:31 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 13:14:31 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Most "Reliable" Nak ? Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E47@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> I'd too go for the ZX9, just replace those darn orange caps and you'll be fine. Talking about taking it to the extreme, how's about a bx300 with the gear upgrade. I've had mine for over 11 years and has not skipped a beat. Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: Stan Targowski [mailto:stan.targowski at attbi.com] Sent: Tuesday, 14 January 2003 12:50 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: RE: [naktalk] Most "Reliable" Nak ? From m.raven at chello.nl Tue Jan 14 16:32:06 2003 From: m.raven at chello.nl (Maurits) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:32:06 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Most "Reliable" Nak ? References: <20030114010558.95393.qmail@web20421.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001201c2bbe2$1854aa40$9e3cbbd4@raveneql1a1eu0> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anand.R.Sharma" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 2:05 AM Subject: [naktalk] Most "Reliable" Nak ? > Friends - A novice question ! Which is the most "reliable" Nak Tape Deck for long-lasting, relatively maintenance-free performance ? Should I get a used Dragon, ZX9 or a CR7A ? Thanks in advance for your time. Anand Maybe a belt driven deck has the shortest lifespan. I know a ReVox has no rubber belts at all. I'm not for sure what the Dragon uses. Maybe 2 tapetransportmotors and a dual capstan without belt? Maurits From m.raven at chello.nl Tue Jan 14 16:46:17 2003 From: m.raven at chello.nl (Maurits) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:46:17 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Most "Reliable" Nak ? References: <20030114010539.16505.qmail@web20415.mail.yahoo.com> <3E2428D3.8E2FF4C3@rcn.com> Message-ID: <000d01c2bbe4$13fc3ab0$9e3cbbd4@raveneql1a1eu0> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Most "Reliable" Nak ? > > From past experience, the 582 was very reliable -- in over > 15 years, it required a capstan motor, one capacitor > replacement and maybe a couple of tune-ups. I know a 580 and 582 for sale here in a local 2ndhand store. The give 90 days guarantee. Price is Euro 250 +/- $ 250 incl. tax. Maurits From kannan_s at vsnl.com Tue Jan 14 17:39:47 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:09:47 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning Message-ID: <20030114163947.54549114945@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From sandorpistike at hotmail.com Tue Jan 14 18:09:03 2003 From: sandorpistike at hotmail.com (Sndor Istvn) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:09:03 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning Message-ID: Hello Kannan, thank you very much for your comprehensive answer. As far as I understood there is no way to prepare any deck to all possible cases, because either the playback-head, either the record-head is fixed. As far as I know there are several type of cassettes, and often the tape itself has some azimuth-fault (is it stupid?). It means that you cannot play perfectly any azimuth-faulty tape even on a well-aligned but fixed playback-head, or you cannot make any perfect record on a well-aligned, but fixed record-head, if the tape itself has an azimuth-error. (Sorry for the stupid questions, but nowadays I cannot find any valuable literature about this sort of sound-reproduction.) If there are really tapes which have azimuth-error, can any of yours recommend a good tape? Do you always use similar (of the same type) tapes, or do you use different ones, depending on what you can buy? Of course, all these questions are just thinking about methods. I tried many sort of tapes with my ZX7, and I hardly found any I could not make a good record on to. (Is it possible to understand? Please correct my English if you find any big errors... I must learn.) This is the most impressive of these machines: you can hardly hear the difference between different sort of tapes if the calibration process is completed well. This is the reason for having a Nak instead of having any newer, but poorer (sometimes even more expensive) commerce-unit. Thank you for your answer! Best regards, Istv�n >From: kannan_s at vsnl.com >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning >Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:09:47 +0530 (IST) > >Hi Istv�n >Generally the position ( including Azimuth/ Zenith) of the two part record >and replay heads should be fixed as per Cassette Standard. A very small >Azimuth adjustment of one of the head is possible in Nak as the other can >be refernced to adjust the mobile head to correct position during record >calibration process. > >Say record head Azimuth alone is adjusted by the motor in 68X series Decks >to get the Phase cherence between the channels. And this aligns the record >head in refernce to a fixed play head. >Incase of Dragon; the playback Head azimuth is adjsuted ( while record head >position is fixed - pre-aligned at Factory as per service manual) and same >is the case with CR7 during record calibration process. > >I feel the later playback Azimuth adjustment facility has an additional >benefit of adjustment for cassettes recorded on another deck to play >without loss of High frequency in these later decks. > >Here we are talking of very small adjsutment of Azimuth alone while the >Zenith of these heads require correct positioning. So you need calibrating >gauges and tapes ( of great cost) to position the heads on the correct >location! > >The adjustment( record calibration)of Azimuth is very small and that >actually corrects any change in position of the heads if it had moved as >Nak head position can move on their base with only a plastic screw holding >them on to the head block! > Generally once calibrated the position does not cahnge over time unless >the deck is transported or head is physically moved. >Kannan > >sandorpistike at hotmail.com wrote >Hello all! > >I have a probably novice question. >I have a ZX7. On this machine you can tune the azimuth while recording >(more >accurately: while tape-calibration). Does it tune only the record head, or >both record and playback heads? > >If it tunes only the record head, does it make "misalignment" between the >record and the playback head? > >If it tunes both heads, what can I do to get the best quality of sound, if >I >have several type of tapes with several azimuth-calibration? Shall I >"retune" the playback (or both) heads before playing any different tapes? > >Otherwise I am realyy satisfied this deck, I am just waiting to my wife to >bring me the just-bought RX505E. I am so excited to listen it! > >Best regards, >and sorry for my "difficult" English. >Istv�n S�ndor >(You can refer me as Steve, if you like...) > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Tue Jan 14 19:51:49 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 01:51:49 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] Most "Reliable" Nak ? References: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E47@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Message-ID: <004501c2bbfe$0b799580$63299bca@smarzuki> Hi all, I second the ZX group on reliability / maintenance case. Dragon is my all around ultimate choice but too many things inside such accurate deck that can go wrong. And judging from its service manual, "CR7 auto calibration's calibration" looks very cumbersome and requires extreme tools. ZX is all manual and should be less problematic in the long run ... also sounds good =). Maurits, Dragon uses 2 dd motors but there's still cam motor belt, rew / ff idler rubber and such. BTW my CR4 also once experienced stuck capstan like Ron's CR7 and other CR3 blew up its motor drive (?) IC to pieces. Best regards, Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Siomopoulos To: 'naktalk at naks.com' Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:14 AM Subject: RE: [naktalk] Most "Reliable" Nak ? I'd too go for the ZX9, just replace those darn orange caps and you'll be fine. Talking about taking it to the extreme, how's about a bx300 with the gear upgrade. I've had mine for over 11 years and has not skipped a beat. Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: Stan Targowski [mailto:stan.targowski at attbi.com] Sent: Tuesday, 14 January 2003 12:50 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: RE: [naktalk] Most "Reliable" Nak ? From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Tue Jan 14 19:53:07 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 01:53:07 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning References: Message-ID: <004601c2bbfe$2de27ba0$63299bca@smarzuki> Hello Steve :-) I believe there's no Nak deck that adjusts both rec & pb heads. ZX7 and most other auto Naks adjust the record head to match 'fixed' pb head azimuth. Only Dragon and CR7 adjust the pb head to match a fixed rec head azimuth - with the additional benefit of flexibility to play back tapes from other stray azimuth decks. Therefore you'd need to get the pb head setting precisely - and leave it untouched !! I learned the hard way that once we fiddle with those tempting large white plastic screws sticking beneath the cassette door ... we're doomed for a long long time, until we have the necessary test tapes. The ZX tape calibration process itself was meant to iron out azimuth 'problems' between different blank cassette shells. If you have pre-recorded tape that sounds dull on perfectly aligned ZX, leave the deck alone and listen to other cassette ... Best regards, Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: Sándor István To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:01 PM Subject: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning Hello all! I have a probably novice question. I have a ZX7. On this machine you can tune the azimuth while recording (more accurately: while tape-calibration). Does it tune only the record head, or both record and playback heads? If it tunes only the record head, does it make "misalignment" between the record and the playback head? If it tunes both heads, what can I do to get the best quality of sound, if I have several type of tapes with several azimuth-calibration? Shall I "retune" the playback (or both) heads before playing any different tapes? Otherwise I am realyy satisfied this deck, I am just waiting to my wife to bring me the just-bought RX505E. I am so excited to listen it! Best regards, and sorry for my "difficult" English. István Sándor (You can refer me as Steve, if you like...) From kannan_s at vsnl.com Tue Jan 14 20:27:29 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:57:29 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning Message-ID: <20030114192729.0F52D114918@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Tue Jan 14 20:44:20 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:44:20 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning In-Reply-To: <004601c2bbfe$2de27ba0$63299bca@smarzuki> Message-ID: <001201c2bc05$54cee9e0$94df193e@oemcomputer> Oh, yes there is! Jeff Galin had several ZX9s from Nakamichi's recording studio that had both adjustable azi' record and playback. Not sure if that was his own modification of if he bought them like that. Jeff was selling them for around $1200, I recall. He may still have one or two left ... Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Salim Marzuki > Sent: 14 January 2003 18:53 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning > > > > Hello Steve :-) > > I believe there's no Nak deck that adjusts both rec & pb heads. ZX7 and > most other auto Naks adjust the record head to match 'fixed' pb head > azimuth. Only Dragon and CR7 adjust the pb head to match a fixed rec head > azimuth - with the additional benefit of flexibility to play back > tapes from > other stray azimuth decks. > > Therefore you'd need to get the pb head setting precisely - and leave it > untouched !! I learned the hard way that once we fiddle with > those tempting > large white plastic screws sticking beneath the cassette door ... we're > doomed for a long long time, until we have the necessary test tapes. > > The ZX tape calibration process itself was meant to iron out azimuth > 'problems' between different blank cassette shells. If you have > pre-recorded tape that sounds dull on perfectly aligned ZX, leave the deck > alone and listen to other cassette ... > > Best regards, > Salim SM > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 From kannan_s at vsnl.com Tue Jan 14 20:51:09 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 01:21:09 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] Most "Reliable" Nak ? Message-ID: <20030114195109.41B12114918@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From kannan_s at vsnl.com Tue Jan 14 21:00:50 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 01:30:50 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning Message-ID: <20030114200050.7F641114918@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Tue Jan 14 23:49:29 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:49:29 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning In-Reply-To: <20030114200050.7F641114918@webmail.vsnl.com> Message-ID: <001901c2bc1f$326ce2c0$94df193e@oemcomputer> Spot on, Kannan. Jeff G just told me the modification is his own, not Nakamichi's, and that it allows playback azimuth adjustment INSTEAD of record azi' adjust. Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > kannan_s at vsnl.com > Sent: 14 January 2003 20:01 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning > > > > Geff might have done the manual adjustment of Azimuth to play > head rather than record head on ZX9 - more like Dragon. > On such a modified machine you can manually adjust the Play > Azimuth like you do on a CR7. Not a very difficult one since the > wedge sitting on the back of Record head for adjustment can be > switched to the underside of play head. Turning the knob will > now adjsut the play head instead of the record head. > You cannot make both heads Azimuth adjustable. > Kannan > graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk wrote > Oh, yes there is! Jeff Galin had several ZX9s from Nakamichi's recording > studio that had both adjustable azi' record and playback. Not > sure if that > was his own modification of if he bought them like that. Jeff was selling > them for around $1200, I recall. He may still have one or two left ... > > Gra' > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > Salim Marzuki > > Sent: 14 January 2003 18:53 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning > > > > > > > > Hello Steve :-) > > > > I believe there's no Nak deck that adjusts both rec & pb heads. ZX7 and > > most other auto Naks adjust the record head to match 'fixed' pb head > > azimuth. Only Dragon and CR7 adjust the pb head to match a > fixed rec head > > azimuth - with the additional benefit of flexibility to play back > > tapes from > > other stray azimuth decks. > > > > Therefore you'd need to get the pb head setting precisely - and leave it > > untouched !! I learned the hard way that once we fiddle with > > those tempting > > large white plastic screws sticking beneath the cassette door ... we're > > doomed for a long long time, until we have the necessary test tapes. > > > > The ZX tape calibration process itself was meant to iron out azimuth > > 'problems' between different blank cassette shells. If you have > > pre-recorded tape that sounds dull on perfectly aligned ZX, > leave the deck > > alone and listen to other cassette ... > > > > Best regards, > > Salim SM > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 From John at jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk Wed Jan 15 09:26:11 2003 From: John at jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk (John Walker) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:26:11 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Nakamichi LX-3 problem solved! References: <20030108205254.CB50F114950@webmail.vsnl.com> Message-ID: <3E251B23.3040901@jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk> Pradeep I have a Nak 550. I don't know whether it needs maintenance, but it does not sound as good as my Nak 700 II, which definitely does need maintenance! Your nephew could consider the Sony WMD6 Pro-Walkman, which was/is very popular in the UK, and is a lot smaller than the Nak550. (Lacks the three channel mixer, though.) Alternately, how about a digital solution using a laptop and an outboard sound card? That would be about the same size and weight as the 550, but give substantially better quality. John Walker From aaanandam at yahoo.com Wed Jan 15 12:41:26 2003 From: aaanandam at yahoo.com (Anand.R.Sharma) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:41:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] Nak Service in India Message-ID: <20030115114126.90575.qmail@web20415.mail.yahoo.com> Dear Kannan & Other fellow members, Thanks for all your inputs on the most "reliable" Nak. The consensus seems to be that it is better to opt for a model with limited "Auto" functions. Lesser the complications in the Technology, lower the chances of "failure". At least that is what my understanding is. I would therefore be inclined to think in terms of the ZX7/ZX9 Do you know of a good place in India where I can service my Nak ? I have read messages mentioning about how good Jeffrey Galin and Stephen Sank are but for obvious reasons it is very cumbersome to carry it all the way to the US just for a service ! It will also be helpful to all if someone can compile a list of the various "spares" one should stock for various models so that we can get another 15-20 years of service from our "dream" machines. I am taking the liberty of posting this ( though it is a region specific question ) as Im sure there are many members from India who would be interested in knowing the details. My (limited) knowledge of Nak Decks has really improved thanks to all the informative posts. Thanks, as always - ANAND --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.raven at chello.nl Wed Jan 15 13:44:42 2003 From: m.raven at chello.nl (Maurits) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:44:42 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Most "Reliable" Nak ? References: <20030114195109.41B12114918@webmail.vsnl.com> Message-ID: <002401c2bc93$e2770320$9e3cbbd4@raveneql1a1eu0> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Most "Reliable" Nak ? > Maurits, Dragon uses 2 dd motors but there's still cam motor belt, rew / ff > idler rubber and such. BTW my CR4 also once experienced stuck capstan like > Ron's CR7 and other CR3 blew up its motor drive (?) IC to pieces. Tnx for the info. Is the dual capstan in the Dragon similar to the older types, with a thicker capstan to get tension on the tape, I suppose? I've made my own wired 20 feet remote control for the LX-5! Very usefull when record old tapes to CDwriter. I already had tapeout > auxin connection. But now I have no longer start the tape and run to the computer soundmixer. Maurits From m.raven at chello.nl Wed Jan 15 14:23:01 2003 From: m.raven at chello.nl (Maurits) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:23:01 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Nak Service in India References: <20030115114126.90575.qmail@web20415.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000e01c2bc99$3ab7afd0$9e3cbbd4@raveneql1a1eu0> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anand.R.Sharma" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:41 PM Subject: [naktalk] Nak Service in India > > Dear Kannan & Other fellow members, > > Thanks for all your inputs on the most "reliable" Nak. The consensus seems to be that it is better to opt for a model with limited "Auto" functions. Lesser the complications in the Technology, lower the chances of "failure". At least that is what my understanding is. I would therefore be inclined to think in terms of the ZX7/ZX9 > > Do you know of a good place in India where I can service my Nak ? I have read messages mentioning about how good Jeffrey Galin and Stephen Sank are but for obvious reasons it is very cumbersome to carry it all the way to the US just for a service ! I don't know. Maybe when you do a quick sarch in google nakamichi+india ? Or ask a well known audio hi-end shop for a good technican. According to the NAK manuals you need a lot of special made tools to align and calibrate the system. But when a 2nd hand deck has no defects and sounds good there's no problem changing a simple belt. But an well skilled amateur with *good* elektronic knowledge can do the easy things too. There comes Wouter in picture with his great manual ftp server! Hi Wouter, what is the easiest way to upload the full LX-5 manual? jpeg 150 dpi scan /tiff/gif and/or Acrobat format? With color? (The schematic diagrams has arrows and voltage measure points in blue). I've a Dutch Transtec LX-5 owner's manual too. Maurits From sandorpistike at hotmail.com Wed Jan 15 15:39:24 2003 From: sandorpistike at hotmail.com (Sndor Istvn) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 15:39:24 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning Message-ID: Hello Salim, I too, learned that lesson that time I bought the deck (about 4 years ago)... Since then I made it tuned at a specialized service-shop, and since then of course I do not made any alignment with those large white plastic screws. Yesterday my wife brought me an RX505, and I found that its head is possibly misaligned. The ZX7 sounds better regerdless of original (pre-recorded) casette or not. I will have to bring it to the above-mentioned shop, and make it tuned. It is still like a toy for a child, I was really amazed of how fast it flips the cassette. I nearly laughed, it was so funny for me. Best regards, Istv�n >From: Salim Marzuki >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning >Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 01:53:07 +0700 > > >Hello Steve :-) > >I believe there's no Nak deck that adjusts both rec & pb heads. ZX7 and >most other auto Naks adjust the record head to match 'fixed' pb head >azimuth. Only Dragon and CR7 adjust the pb head to match a fixed rec head >azimuth - with the additional benefit of flexibility to play back tapes >from >other stray azimuth decks. > >Therefore you'd need to get the pb head setting precisely - and leave it >untouched !! I learned the hard way that once we fiddle with those >tempting >large white plastic screws sticking beneath the cassette door ... we're >doomed for a long long time, until we have the necessary test tapes. > >The ZX tape calibration process itself was meant to iron out azimuth >'problems' between different blank cassette shells. If you have >pre-recorded tape that sounds dull on perfectly aligned ZX, leave the deck >alone and listen to other cassette ... > >Best regards, >Salim SM > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: S�ndor Istv�n >To: naktalk at naks.com >Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:01 PM >Subject: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning > > >Hello all! > >I have a probably novice question. >I have a ZX7. On this machine you can tune the azimuth while recording >(more >accurately: while tape-calibration). Does it tune only the record head, or >both record and playback heads? > >If it tunes only the record head, does it make "misalignment" between the >record and the playback head? > >If it tunes both heads, what can I do to get the best quality of sound, if >I >have several type of tapes with several azimuth-calibration? Shall I >"retune" the playback (or both) heads before playing any different tapes? > >Otherwise I am realyy satisfied this deck, I am just waiting to my wife to >bring me the just-bought RX505E. I am so excited to listen it! > >Best regards, >and sorry for my "difficult" English. >Istv�n S�ndor >(You can refer me as Steve, if you like...) > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From sandorpistike at hotmail.com Wed Jan 15 15:48:23 2003 From: sandorpistike at hotmail.com (Sndor Istvn) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 15:48:23 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning Message-ID: Hello Kannan, unfortunately (?) I do not have neither a Dragon nor a CR7... I downloaded some brochures from the support-site, and it is really interesting ro read them through. I even found some functions of the ZX7 I did not heard about before. (Of course, these functions are not used often, but at least I know them already.) The just-acquied RX505 has a problem: the EQ120/70 button does not remains locked, it always get back to 120micros. Do you know if it is repairable, or shall I replace the switch? Best regards, and thank you all for the peace-minded conversation. Istv�n >From: kannan_s at vsnl.com >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning >Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:57:29 +0530 (IST) > >Hi Istv�n >many here in this forum would answer any simple basic question( I feel no >question is a stupid question as we learnt our lessons in school asking >questions as we do now as a professional)that you may have. So feel free to >ask as much as you desire and somebody here would definitely answer. >Coming to nak tape issue > >The tapes as such has no problems as they are long length flat rectangular >tapes meeting Standard cassette standard tolerences on width etc. However >Nak handling of the tape is special eliminating effects like excess >friction during tape movement over heads or tape skewing. > > Skewing is a result of Tape guide path on the two small ( imperfect) >rollars on bottom extremes of a cssette shell as well as shell casing. The >small guides on the tape path inside the shell also can cause skewing. > >The skewing can result in Play /record Azimuth problems (the tape can move >slightly off perpendicular to the Head gap). > >Dual capstan Nak eliminates thess rollar/ Shell related skewing as well as >pressure pad related scrape flutter.No wonder your ZX7 does not show >difference in record / replay performance on many tapes. > > I generally avoid using poor quality tapes ( India produced large number >of such tapes )on my Nak to reduce oxide flakedeposits on heads more than >these azimuth related issues. > >I would recommend you to download Nak brochures on Naks.com ftp server and >go through them. If you own Dragon or CR7 you would also find out that >Play azimuth adjsutment can make listening to tapes made on other machines >a real pleasure! >Kannan >sandorpistike at hotmail.com wrote >Hello Kannan, >thank you very much for your comprehensive answer. > >As far as I understood there is no way to prepare any deck to all possible >cases, because either the playback-head, either the record-head is fixed. > >As far as I know there are several type of cassettes, and often the tape >itself has some azimuth-fault (is it stupid?). >It means that you cannot play perfectly any azimuth-faulty tape even on a >well-aligned but fixed playback-head, or you cannot make any perfect record >on a well-aligned, but fixed record-head, if the tape itself has an >azimuth-error. > >(Sorry for the stupid questions, but nowadays I cannot find any valuable >literature about this sort of sound-reproduction.) > >If there are really tapes which have azimuth-error, can any of yours >recommend a good tape? Do you always use similar (of the same type) tapes, >or do you use different ones, depending on what you can buy? > >Of course, all these questions are just thinking about methods. I tried >many >sort of tapes with my ZX7, and I hardly found any I could not make a good >record on to. (Is it possible to understand? Please correct my English if >you find any big errors... I must learn.) >This is the most impressive of these machines: you can hardly hear the >difference between different sort of tapes if the calibration process is >completed well. This is the reason for having a Nak instead of having any >newer, but poorer (sometimes even more expensive) commerce-unit. > >Thank you for your answer! >Best regards, >Istv�n > > > > > > > >From: kannan_s at vsnl.com > >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com > >To: naktalk at naks.com > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning > >Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:09:47 +0530 (IST) > > > >Hi Istv�n > >Generally the position ( including Azimuth/ Zenith) of the two part >record > >and replay heads should be fixed as per Cassette Standard. A very small > >Azimuth adjustment of one of the head is possible in Nak as the other can > >be refernced to adjust the mobile head to correct position during record > >calibration process. > > > >Say record head Azimuth alone is adjusted by the motor in 68X series >Decks > >to get the Phase cherence between the channels. And this aligns the >record > >head in refernce to a fixed play head. > >Incase of Dragon; the playback Head azimuth is adjsuted ( while record >head > >position is fixed - pre-aligned at Factory as per service manual) and >same > >is the case with CR7 during record calibration process. > > > >I feel the later playback Azimuth adjustment facility has an additional > >benefit of adjustment for cassettes recorded on another deck to play > >without loss of High frequency in these later decks. > > > >Here we are talking of very small adjsutment of Azimuth alone while the > >Zenith of these heads require correct positioning. So you need >calibrating > >gauges and tapes ( of great cost) to position the heads on the correct > >location! > > > >The adjustment( record calibration)of Azimuth is very small and that > >actually corrects any change in position of the heads if it had moved as > >Nak head position can move on their base with only a plastic screw >holding > >them on to the head block! > > Generally once calibrated the position does not cahnge over time unless > >the deck is transported or head is physically moved. > >Kannan > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Wed Jan 15 17:17:41 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 23:17:41 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning References: Message-ID: <002101c2bcb4$21205f20$9e199bca@smarzuki> Hi István, You're lucky to have Nak tech center close to you. What country are you located ? Regarding those plastic screws ... can you believe that when i brought home my brand new CR4 some years ago, the first thing i did was "tweak" the height screw ??? Ouch !! I agree RX flipping mechanism is a real beauty to watch. Better get your 505 to that Nak shop to get the heads aligned & probably belts replaced. I imagine the 120us eq switch will be difficult to repair but should be easy to replace. Good luck ! Salim SM (Jakarta, Indonesia) ----- Original Message ----- From: Sándor István To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning Hello Salim, I too, learned that lesson that time I bought the deck (about 4 years ago)... Since then I made it tuned at a specialized service-shop, and since then of course I do not made any alignment with those large white plastic screws. Yesterday my wife brought me an RX505, and I found that its head is possibly misaligned. The ZX7 sounds better regerdless of original (pre-recorded) casette or not. I will have to bring it to the above-mentioned shop, and make it tuned. It is still like a toy for a child, I was really amazed of how fast it flips the cassette. I nearly laughed, it was so funny for me. Best regards, István From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Wed Jan 15 17:34:30 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 23:34:30 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] Most "Reliable" Nak ? References: <20030114195109.41B12114918@webmail.vsnl.com> <002401c2bc93$e2770320$9e3cbbd4@raveneql1a1eu0> Message-ID: <002201c2bcb4$220233a0$9e199bca@smarzuki> Hi Maurits, Not sure what the standard dragon casptans dimensions are. Mine has different left & right diameters, probably for the 'diffused resonance' thing, as the deck maintains tape tension by a slightly slower turning supply capstan speed. Thus the left hand side is slower on forward play and alternately the right hand side got slower on reverse playback ... very cool ... but one additional thing that can go wrong ! Fortunately that complicated control seems to be quite robust - never heard any dragon speed / tension mechanism problem so far either on naktalk or locally. Thanks for the idea of wired remote application ! I need to run to deck every time the commercial starts =). Best regards, Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: Maurits To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:44 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Most "Reliable" Nak ? Tnx for the info. Is the dual capstan in the Dragon similar to the older types, with a thicker capstan to get tension on the tape, I suppose? I've made my own wired 20 feet remote control for the LX-5! Very usefull when record old tapes to CDwriter. I already had tapeout > auxin connection. But now I have no longer start the tape and run to the computer soundmixer. Maurits From sandorpistike at hotmail.com Wed Jan 15 18:26:03 2003 From: sandorpistike at hotmail.com (Sndor Istvn) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:26:03 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning Message-ID: Hello Salim, I am so amazed of these old but very sophisticated machines! Many people even did not hear about Nakamichi, altough it is one of the best (if not THE BEST) of the world. Pity that Nakamichi stopped producing new decks according to their old values: value without compromises. I admire that Nakamichi do not produce any machine with sparkling-flashing displays (oooohh, I hate them!). Just functionality and reliability and SOUND. They knew what we really need. I am from Hungary. This service-shop is not a Nak-center, but they are fully prepared to repair any Naks. They have the tools, and they have the knowledge also, because they were trained in Germany for repairing those nice machines (amongst other big-names like Rotel). bye! Istv�n >From: Salim Marzuki >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning >Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 23:17:41 +0700 > > >Hi Istv�n, > >You're lucky to have Nak tech center close to you. What country are you >located ? Regarding those plastic screws ... can you believe that when i >brought home my brand new CR4 some years ago, the first thing i did was >"tweak" the height screw ??? Ouch !! > >I agree RX flipping mechanism is a real beauty to watch. Better get your >505 to that Nak shop to get the heads aligned & probably belts replaced. I >imagine the 120us eq switch will be difficult to repair but should be easy >to replace. > >Good luck ! >Salim SM (Jakarta, Indonesia) > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: S�ndor Istv�n >To: naktalk at naks.com >Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:39 PM >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning > > >Hello Salim, > >I too, learned that lesson that time I bought the deck (about 4 years >ago)... Since then I made it tuned at a specialized service-shop, and since >then of course I do not made any alignment with those large white plastic >screws. > >Yesterday my wife brought me an RX505, and I found that its head is >possibly >misaligned. The ZX7 sounds better regerdless of original (pre-recorded) >casette or not. I will have to bring it to the above-mentioned shop, and >make it tuned. > >It is still like a toy for a child, I was really amazed of how fast it >flips >the cassette. I nearly laughed, it was so funny for me. > >Best regards, >Istv�n > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From Ken.Gentry at gilbarco.com Wed Jan 15 18:43:41 2003 From: Ken.Gentry at gilbarco.com (Gentry, Ken) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:43:41 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Repairing Nak CR-1A Message-ID: Hi All, I have a CR-1A that I bought new in 1987. It worked great for about 8 years and then developed a problem. When I try to play or record, the head assembly raises part of the way the capstan motor turns, then the heads return to rest and the deck goes to the "stop" state. I read an item in the archives posted by Stephen Sank that this is a common problem with the control motor assembly (part #CA80007A). Has any other CR owner out there had this problem (and fixed it)? Did you do the repair yourself? If so, where did you pick up the motor assembly and for how much? I contacted United Radio Service in Syracuse, NY about buying the part. They gave me an 800 number for a Nak parts distributor, but I got no answer on the line. Stephen also mentioned the idea of overhauling the motor. Anyone have experience with this? Is the motor easy to disassemble and do some basic cleaning or is it a really involved process? I sent an email to Stephen Sank asking him the same questions, but he must be too busy to reply. Thought I'd throw out the question to group for any thoughts. Thank you in advance for any information you can provide. Ken ken.gentry at gilbarco.com From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Wed Jan 15 19:30:59 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 01:30:59 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] Repairing Nak CR-1A References: Message-ID: <004001c2bcc4$409650c0$9e199bca@smarzuki> Hi Ken, The control cam motor is quite easy to get into and disassemble, just be careful especially with the tiny brushes. If brush get broken (saw a messed up BX reel motor) then you'd need new motor. I did the repair myself per Stephen's guidance, and once changed the motor with a 'generic' one for less than $5. Getting to the reel motor is a longer story. :-) Good luck ! Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: Gentry, Ken To: 'naktalk at naks.com' Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:43 AM Subject: [naktalk] Repairing Nak CR-1A Hi All, I have a CR-1A that I bought new in 1987. It worked great for about 8 years and then developed a problem. When I try to play or record, the head assembly raises part of the way the capstan motor turns, then the heads return to rest and the deck goes to the "stop" state. I read an item in the archives posted by Stephen Sank that this is a common problem with the control motor assembly (part #CA80007A). Has any other CR owner out there had this problem (and fixed it)? Did you do the repair yourself? If so, where did you pick up the motor assembly and for how much? I contacted United Radio Service in Syracuse, NY about buying the part. They gave me an 800 number for a Nak parts distributor, but I got no answer on the line. Stephen also mentioned the idea of overhauling the motor. Anyone have experience with this? Is the motor easy to disassemble and do some basic cleaning or is it a really involved process? I sent an email to Stephen Sank asking him the same questions, but he must be too busy to reply. Thought I'd throw out the question to group for any thoughts. Thank you in advance for any information you can provide. Ken ken.gentry at gilbarco.com From Ken.Gentry at gilbarco.com Wed Jan 15 20:01:47 2003 From: Ken.Gentry at gilbarco.com (Gentry, Ken) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:01:47 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Repairing Nak CR-1A Message-ID: Hi Salim, Thanks for the reply. Did you disassemble the motor itself and do some sort of cleaning? If so, what should I look to clean and with what kind of solution (i.e. isopropyl alcohol)? You mentioned getting a generic motor. Do you recall the source of the motor and what kind of specs to look for (i.e. voltage, etc.)? Thanks again, Ken -----Original Message----- From: Salim Marzuki [mailto:smarzuki at indosat.net.id] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 1:31 PM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Repairing Nak CR-1A Hi Ken, The control cam motor is quite easy to get into and disassemble, just be careful especially with the tiny brushes. If brush get broken (saw a messed up BX reel motor) then you'd need new motor. I did the repair myself per Stephen's guidance, and once changed the motor with a 'generic' one for less than $5. Getting to the reel motor is a longer story. :-) Good luck ! Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: Gentry, Ken To: 'naktalk at naks.com' Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:43 AM Subject: [naktalk] Repairing Nak CR-1A Hi All, I have a CR-1A that I bought new in 1987. It worked great for about 8 years and then developed a problem. When I try to play or record, the head assembly raises part of the way the capstan motor turns, then the heads return to rest and the deck goes to the "stop" state. I read an item in the archives posted by Stephen Sank that this is a common problem with the control motor assembly (part #CA80007A). Has any other CR owner out there had this problem (and fixed it)? Did you do the repair yourself? If so, where did you pick up the motor assembly and for how much? I contacted United Radio Service in Syracuse, NY about buying the part. They gave me an 800 number for a Nak parts distributor, but I got no answer on the line. Stephen also mentioned the idea of overhauling the motor. Anyone have experience with this? Is the motor easy to disassemble and do some basic cleaning or is it a really involved process? I sent an email to Stephen Sank asking him the same questions, but he must be too busy to reply. Thought I'd throw out the question to group for any thoughts. Thank you in advance for any information you can provide. Ken ken.gentry at gilbarco.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From kannan_s at vsnl.com Wed Jan 15 21:58:38 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 02:28:38 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] Nak Service in India ??? Message-ID: <20030115205838.7E28A114916@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From m.raven at chello.nl Thu Jan 16 00:49:10 2003 From: m.raven at chello.nl (Maurits) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 00:49:10 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning References: Message-ID: <003101c2bcf0$b65f0a50$9e3cbbd4@raveneql1a1eu0> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sándor István" > prepared to repair any Naks. They have the tools, and they have the > knowledge also, because they were trained in Germany for repairing those > nice machines (amongst other big-names like Rotel). You're kidding to compare Rotel among Nakamichi. Nakamichi has produced the finest transport and heads ever in de cassette age. Number 2,3, 4 does not exist and then at 5 the Revox. Maybe Rotel at 13 ;-) Just my 2cents. Maurits From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Thu Jan 16 02:19:09 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:19:09 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] Repairing Nak CR-1A References: Message-ID: <118b01c2bcfd$675581c0$71299bca@smarzuki> Hi Ken, I did open the motor myself, cleaned the rotor contact area with alcohol and sprayed contact cleaner (rotor was gummed up with deposit) - the tiny brush itself was relatively clean but i did wipe the contact surface with a very fine grit sandpaper. Just need to be extra careful when re-assembling the plastic cover where the brush is mounted. Sorry I must've confused the 'generic' CR capstan motor with cam control. The cam motor that I have is a genuine Sankyo, bought as a spare just in case i messed up the brush. There's no voltage marking on the motor but I'll let you know once i find out the spec/ rating. Best regards, Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: Gentry, Ken To: 'naktalk at naks.com' Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:01 AM Subject: RE: [naktalk] Repairing Nak CR-1A Hi Salim, Thanks for the reply. Did you disassemble the motor itself and do some sort of cleaning? If so, what should I look to clean and with what kind of solution (i.e. isopropyl alcohol)? You mentioned getting a generic motor. Do you recall the source of the motor and what kind of specs to look for (i.e. voltage, etc.)? Thanks again, Ken From sandorpistike at hotmail.com Thu Jan 16 09:17:23 2003 From: sandorpistike at hotmail.com (Sndor Istvn) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:17:23 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning Message-ID: I do not compare them, but mentioned. This service does repair not only (not mainly) decks, but other hi-fi and high-end devices. If you would like to know the exact types, just look at this: http://www.totel.netcom.hu/service.htm (or: www.totel.netcom.hu) Sorry, it is in Hungarian, but you will understand at least the names. Best regards, Istv�n >From: "Maurits" >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning >Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 00:49:10 +0100 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "S�ndor Istv�n" > > prepared to repair any Naks. They have the tools, and they have the > > knowledge also, because they were trained in Germany for repairing those > > nice machines (amongst other big-names like Rotel). > > >You're kidding to compare Rotel among Nakamichi. >Nakamichi has produced the finest transport and heads ever in de cassette >age. Number 2,3, 4 does not exist and then at 5 the Revox. Maybe Rotel at >13 >;-) Just my 2cents. > > >Maurits > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From wheijke at xs4all.nl Thu Jan 16 09:53:44 2003 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (wheijke at xs4all.nl) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:53:44 +0100 (CET) Subject: [naktalk] New brochures Message-ID: <14793.62.72.223.42.1042707224.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> I've added freshly scanned (multipage color) brochures of the following models to the ftp server: -350 -500 -600 -680 -1000 Wouter From m.raven at chello.nl Thu Jan 16 15:07:07 2003 From: m.raven at chello.nl (Maurits) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:07:07 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning References: Message-ID: <000d01c2bd68$8e287620$9e3cbbd4@raveneql1a1eu0> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sándor István" To: Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning > I do not compare them, but mentioned. This service does repair not only (not > mainly) decks, but other hi-fi and high-end devices. > If you would like to know the exact types, just look at this: > http://www.totel.netcom.hu/service.htm > (or: www.totel.netcom.hu) > Sorry, it is in Hungarian, but you will understand at least the names. http://www.rotel.com/products/index.htm ..and now you write Totel. Pretty confusing this time. I understamd you did not place Nakamichi and the much lower end Rotel cassettedecks at the same level? > > > knowledge also, because they were trained in Germany for repairing those > > > nice machines (amongst other big-names like Rotel). Okay, maybe they repair Nakamichi and has a good technican on the payrole. Buyers of Naks are 1. Nak lovers (like the most of here) 2. Salesmen of nearly vintage machines. But servicing an expensive NAK is best done according to the manual. Misagligment of a 3 head casettedeck isn't easy to readjust. My old A77 Revox reeldeck is easy to align. (I have the equipment an manual and testtape). They have soft heads and has to replace at 4 years of heavily use. I did a couple of years ago the same for a master guitarist named Jan Akkerman (ex. Focus-Brainbox) on his home 8 track machine. Now it's all PCM / harddisk recording ;-) Maurits From sandorpistike at hotmail.com Thu Jan 16 15:29:02 2003 From: sandorpistike at hotmail.com (Sndor Istvn) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:29:02 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning Message-ID: Dear Maurits, I wrote TOTEL (T like Tamagochi) because it is the name of the repair-service. But I mentioned Rotel before, as a brand-name of many, well known hifi-appliances like amplifiers, turntables, etc. Personally me did not even see any Rotel-tapedeck, so this is the reason I do not know them. But I heard this name many times as a supplier of good amplifiers. Of course I do not want to express that Rotel is more spohisticated. I know only Nakamichi tapedeck(s), and do not know Rotel tapedecks (is there any?). On the other hand I am totally satisfied with Nakamichi, this is the reason I do not really care about other decks regardless if there is a better deck or not. Hope it is clear now. Please let me know if my English is not possible to understand. Istv�n >From: "Maurits" >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning >Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:07:07 +0100 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "S�ndor Istv�n" >To: >Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 9:17 AM >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning > > > > I do not compare them, but mentioned. This service does repair not only >(not > > mainly) decks, but other hi-fi and high-end devices. > > If you would like to know the exact types, just look at this: > > http://www.totel.netcom.hu/service.htm > > (or: www.totel.netcom.hu) > > Sorry, it is in Hungarian, but you will understand at least the names. > >http://www.rotel.com/products/index.htm >..and now you write Totel. Pretty confusing this time. I understamd you did >not place Nakamichi and the much lower end Rotel cassettedecks at the same >level? > > > > > > knowledge also, because they were trained in Germany for repairing >those > > > > nice machines (amongst other big-names like Rotel). > > >Okay, maybe they repair Nakamichi and has a good technican on the payrole. >Buyers of Naks are 1. Nak lovers (like the most of here) 2. Salesmen of >nearly vintage machines. >But servicing an expensive NAK is best done according to the manual. >Misagligment of a 3 head casettedeck isn't easy to readjust. >My old A77 Revox reeldeck is easy to align. (I have the equipment an manual >and testtape). They have soft heads and has to replace at 4 years of >heavily >use. I did a couple of years ago the same for a master guitarist named Jan >Akkerman (ex. Focus-Brainbox) on his home 8 track machine. Now it's all PCM >/ harddisk recording ;-) > > >Maurits > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From ra.ah at rcn.com Thu Jan 16 15:29:38 2003 From: ra.ah at rcn.com (Ron) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:29:38 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Repairing Nak CR-1A References: <118b01c2bcfd$675581c0$71299bca@smarzuki> Message-ID: <3E26C1D2.D651DE92@rcn.com> Salim Marzuki wrote: > > Hi Ken, > > I did open the motor myself, cleaned the rotor contact area with alcohol and > sprayed contact cleaner (rotor was gummed up with deposit) - the tiny brush > itself was relatively clean but i did wipe the contact surface with a very > fine grit sandpaper. Salim, just a quick note... I don't think it's a good idea to use sandpaper on the brush, because it will make the surface rough and then, it shed much more dust when the motor starts to run again,. It's better to just wipe the brush clean with alcohol. I do clean the commutator with fine steel wool, until the segments shine. Just before assembly, I spread a drop of contact cleaner on the segments -- after it evaporates, it leaves a film of non-conductive lubricant. -- Ron > ... Just need to be extra careful when re-assembling the > plastic cover where the brush is mounted. > > Sorry I must've confused the 'generic' CR capstan motor with cam control. > The cam motor that I have is a genuine Sankyo, bought as a spare just in > case i messed up the brush. There's no voltage marking on the motor but > I'll let you know once i find out the spec/ rating. > > Best regards, > Salim SM > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gentry, Ken > To: 'naktalk at naks.com' > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:01 AM > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Repairing Nak CR-1A > > Hi Salim, > > Thanks for the reply. Did you disassemble the motor itself > and do some sort of cleaning? If so, what should I look to > clean and with what kind of solution (i.e. isopropyl alcohol)? > > You mentioned getting a generic motor. Do you recall the source > of the motor and what kind of specs to look for (i.e. voltage, etc.)? > > Thanks again, > Ken > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Ken.Gentry at gilbarco.com Thu Jan 16 15:43:51 2003 From: Ken.Gentry at gilbarco.com (Gentry, Ken) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:43:51 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Repairing Nak CR-1A Message-ID: I tried to remove the motor last night, but couldn't figure out how. I got the tape transport out, but the two mounting screws for the motor are blocked by a metal rod that holds two large metal plates apart. I started to remove the screws that hold these rods and then chickened out. Instead I turned the worm gear some with my finger (as suggested by Stephen) and the deck worked for a while but when I tried to rewind a tape this morning, it had stopped working. Salim and Ron, did you remove the motor before disassembling it or did you remove the back of the motor while it was still attached to the tape transport frame? Also, I did not notice how the plastic back of the motor is attached to the motor housing. Are there tabs that hold it on, are there screws there that I didn't see or is it glued on? I have some tuner contact cleaner/lubricant from Radio Shack that I have used on my integrated amps selector knobs to get rid of static. Will this work for cleaning the motor, too? Here's the web page for the cleaner: http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog_name=CTLG&category_name=CTLG_0 05_012_000_000&product_id=64-4315 The cleaner contains the following: Tetrafluoroethane Cyclomethicone Mineral Oil Thanks, Ken -----Original Message----- From: Ron [mailto:ra.ah at rcn.com] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 9:30 AM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Repairing Nak CR-1A Salim Marzuki wrote: > > Hi Ken, > > I did open the motor myself, cleaned the rotor contact area with alcohol and > sprayed contact cleaner (rotor was gummed up with deposit) - the tiny brush > itself was relatively clean but i did wipe the contact surface with a very > fine grit sandpaper. Salim, just a quick note... I don't think it's a good idea to use sandpaper on the brush, because it will make the surface rough and then, it shed much more dust when the motor starts to run again,. It's better to just wipe the brush clean with alcohol. I do clean the commutator with fine steel wool, until the segments shine. Just before assembly, I spread a drop of contact cleaner on the segments -- after it evaporates, it leaves a film of non-conductive lubricant. -- Ron > ... Just need to be extra careful when re-assembling the > plastic cover where the brush is mounted. > > Sorry I must've confused the 'generic' CR capstan motor with cam control. > The cam motor that I have is a genuine Sankyo, bought as a spare just in > case i messed up the brush. There's no voltage marking on the motor but > I'll let you know once i find out the spec/ rating. > > Best regards, > Salim SM > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gentry, Ken > To: 'naktalk at naks.com' > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:01 AM > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Repairing Nak CR-1A > > Hi Salim, > > Thanks for the reply. Did you disassemble the motor itself > and do some sort of cleaning? If so, what should I look to > clean and with what kind of solution (i.e. isopropyl alcohol)? > > You mentioned getting a generic motor. Do you recall the source > of the motor and what kind of specs to look for (i.e. voltage, etc.)? > > Thanks again, > Ken > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Thu Jan 16 17:28:32 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:28:32 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] Repairing Nak CR-1A References: Message-ID: <000801c2bd7c$682450c0$0b299bca@smarzuki> Hi Ken, Cam motor & plate needs to be removed from the mechanism block before you disassemble the motor, and the mech block itself need to be removed from the deck .... The plate which holds the motor has 2 screws, one below the motor and another from front (behind the front metal plate) holding the long shaft and plastic cam. Once the plate assembly is out then you can remove the 2 tiny screws that hold the motor. There's a BX300 pdf manual on Wouter's site, please take a look at figure 6.6 mechanism assembly. The back plastic plate itself was held by a tab in the motor housing which need to be bent to pull the backplate. Sorry if i make it sounds complicated ! And yes of course Ron is right about the proper way to clean the brushes. That fine grit sandpaper was a bad idea and wrong shortcut ... no wonder i got into problems so many times. =) Thanks for the tip Ron. If you can't find a replacement motor as a back up, I strongly suggest to spray the motor from the outside using contact cleaner through the two front mounting holes and twist the rotor back and forth. Best regards, Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: Gentry, Ken To: 'naktalk at naks.com' Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 9:43 PM Subject: RE: [naktalk] Repairing Nak CR-1A I tried to remove the motor last night, but couldn't figure out how. I got the tape transport out, but the two mounting screws for the motor are blocked by a metal rod that holds two large metal plates apart. I started to remove the screws that hold these rods and then chickened out. Instead I turned the worm gear some with my finger (as suggested by Stephen) and the deck worked for a while but when I tried to rewind a tape this morning, it had stopped working. Salim and Ron, did you remove the motor before disassembling it or did you remove the back of the motor while it was still attached to the tape transport frame? Also, I did not notice how the plastic back of the motor is attached to the motor housing. Are there tabs that hold it on, are there screws there that I didn't see or is it glued on? I have some tuner contact cleaner/lubricant from Radio Shack that I have used on my integrated amps selector knobs to get rid of static. Will this work for cleaning the motor, too? Here's the web page for the cleaner: http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog_name=CTLG&category_name=CTLG_0 05_012_000_000&product_id=64-4315 The cleaner contains the following: Tetrafluoroethane Cyclomethicone Mineral Oil Thanks, Ken -----Original Message----- From: Ron [mailto:ra.ah at rcn.com] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 9:30 AM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Repairing Nak CR-1A Salim Marzuki wrote: > > Hi Ken, > > I did open the motor myself, cleaned the rotor contact area with alcohol and > sprayed contact cleaner (rotor was gummed up with deposit) - the tiny brush > itself was relatively clean but i did wipe the contact surface with a very > fine grit sandpaper. Salim, just a quick note... I don't think it's a good idea to use sandpaper on the brush, because it will make the surface rough and then, it shed much more dust when the motor starts to run again,. It's better to just wipe the brush clean with alcohol. I do clean the commutator with fine steel wool, until the segments shine. Just before assembly, I spread a drop of contact cleaner on the segments -- after it evaporates, it leaves a film of non-conductive lubricant. -- Ron From ra.ah at rcn.com Thu Jan 16 17:43:37 2003 From: ra.ah at rcn.com (Ron) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:43:37 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Repairing Nak CR-1A References: Message-ID: <3E26E139.EB4978C6@rcn.com> "Gentry, Ken" wrote: > > [....] > > Salim and Ron, did you remove the motor before disassembling > it or did you remove the back of the motor while it was still > attached to the tape transport frame? The comment I made applies generally to *any* DC motor, not to the specific CR-1. In general, yes, you want to work on the motor itself, so you can clean and lubricate both ends of the shaft. -- Ron From ra.ah at rcn.com Thu Jan 16 18:51:38 2003 From: ra.ah at rcn.com (Ron) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:51:38 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] CR series transport question References: <200301111635_MC3-1-2430-D23@compuserve.com> <3E21482B.374CEA68@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <3E26F12A.75E60255@rcn.com> Do all CR series models use the same Sankyo transport? For example, I understand that the CR-1 has 2 heads and no motor for azimuth adjust, but does it use the same basic transport as the CR-7 transport? -- Ron From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Thu Jan 16 19:16:54 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 18:16:54 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] =?iso-8859-1?B?SXN0duFu?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000601c2bd8b$72cf7ea0$f1b3193e@oemcomputer> István Do not worry about your English - it may not be perfect but at least you can write it, which is more than a lot of people can do in English speaking countries! :o) Graham > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Sándor István > Sent: 16 January 2003 14:29 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning > > > Dear Maurits, > I wrote TOTEL (T like Tamagochi) because it is the name of the > repair-service. > But I mentioned Rotel before, as a brand-name of many, well known > hifi-appliances like amplifiers, turntables, etc. > Personally me did not even see any Rotel-tapedeck, so this is the > reason I > do not know them. But I heard this name many times as a supplier of good > amplifiers. > > Of course I do not want to express that Rotel is more > spohisticated. I know > only Nakamichi tapedeck(s), and do not know Rotel tapedecks (is > there any?). > > On the other hand I am totally satisfied with Nakamichi, this is > the reason > I do not really care about other decks regardless if there is a > better deck > or not. > > Hope it is clear now. Please let me know if my English is not possible to > understand. > > István > > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Thu Jan 16 19:30:28 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:30:28 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] CR series transport question References: <200301111635_MC3-1-2430-D23@compuserve.com> <3E21482B.374CEA68@xs4all.nl> <3E26F12A.75E60255@rcn.com> Message-ID: <000401c2bd8d$58f6c180$0b299bca@smarzuki> Hi Ron, Apart from the direct vs belt drive stuff (and of course double capstan on CR 3-7) the basic transports all look alike to me ... Just like 480 / LX3 transport is similar to the 1000zxl ! One small question to you: what is the actual difference between regular capstan / dc motor with reel motor (which can be used for FF/rew) ? The reel motor is more difficult to find over here. Best regards, Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 12:51 AM Subject: [naktalk] CR series transport question Do all CR series models use the same Sankyo transport? For example, I understand that the CR-1 has 2 heads and no motor for azimuth adjust, but does it use the same basic transport as the CR-7 transport? -- Ron From kannan_s at vsnl.com Thu Jan 16 19:42:03 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 00:12:03 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] CR series transport question Message-ID: <20030116184203.30AD3114920@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From Ken.Gentry at gilbarco.com Thu Jan 16 20:23:15 2003 From: Ken.Gentry at gilbarco.com (Gentry, Ken) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 14:23:15 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] CR series transport question Message-ID: Newbee question --- Be gentle on me, please ;-) I have seen "Sankyo Transport" mentioned. Is Sankyo a subcontractor for the mechanism or is it a "model" name for that transport made by Nakamichi. If Sankyo is a subcontractor, what else do they make? Ken -----Original Message----- From: kannan_s at vsnl.com [mailto:kannan_s at vsnl.com] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 1:42 PM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR series transport question Ron the basic Frame of sankyo transport is same including the capstan bearing / pinch roller block etc whether it is a two head or three head with DD motor or for that matter CR3 with belt driven dual capstans!, The frame has large number of holes to fix additional fixtures like the motor for Azimuth adjust in CR7. They have done a nice mod like splitting the head block in two for Play head azimuth tilt mechanism in CR7. But some parts may be differnt in different application but as for I know they are built on a same basic frame. coming to drives - you have plenty of parts going on to the frame to make up Direct drive motor driven Dual capstan or belt driven mechanism. The second flywheel for the take up capstan in Cr3 is same as CR4. While the other capstan is different as it is part of Direct drive motor. But if you are thinking of replacement for CR7 using CR1 two head mechanism- fitting large number of additional materials to a simple mechanism may not be worthwhile. Sometime that basic frame of ( CR1) may not have holes for fitting some additional parts for CR7. As these parts had been made by CNC punch press, the frame designer might have omitted unwanted holes for Dual capstan drive parts probably to reduce cost. Better look for an Diret drive mechanism like Bx300/ DRx /CR4 mechanisms as part for CR7 Kannan ra.ah at rcn.com wrote Do all CR series models use the same Sankyo transport? For example, I understand that the CR-1 has 2 heads and no motor for azimuth adjust, but does it use the same basic transport as the CR-7 transport? -- Ron ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From kannan_s at vsnl.com Thu Jan 16 20:32:33 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:02:33 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] CR series transport question Message-ID: <20030116193233.EA288114956@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From stan.targowski at attbi.com Thu Jan 16 20:36:42 2003 From: stan.targowski at attbi.com (Stan Targowski) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:36:42 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] CR series transport question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sankyo is a name of the company, rather than a "model" ... From stan.targowski at attbi.com Thu Jan 16 20:51:25 2003 From: stan.targowski at attbi.com (Stan Targowski) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:51:25 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] CR series transport question In-Reply-To: <20030116193233.EA288114956@webmail.vsnl.com> Message-ID: Sankyo is not affiliated with Sanyo. Sankyo [Seiki Manufacturing] is actually an older, independent company - also not to be confused with Sankyo Corp which is the second largest Japanese pharmaceutical company. The names seem to be similar. Stan -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of kannan_s at vsnl.com Sent: Thu, January 16, 2003 1:33 PM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR series transport question Sankyo is a part of sanyo corporation making casssette deck mechanisms ( and many other components) in millions as an OEM vendor. Nakamichi started using sankyo made mechanisms in later years to save cost? Kannan Ken.Gentry at gilbarco.com wrote Newbee question --- Be gentle on me, please ;-) I have seen "Sankyo Transport" mentioned. Is Sankyo a subcontractor for the mechanism or is it a "model" name for that transport made by Nakamichi. If Sankyo is a subcontractor, what else do they make? Ken ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From ra.ah at rcn.com Thu Jan 16 21:57:23 2003 From: ra.ah at rcn.com (Ron) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:57:23 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] CR series transport question References: <20030116184203.30AD3114920@webmail.vsnl.com> Message-ID: <3E271CB3.F1ACC1C1@rcn.com> Thanks, Salim and Kannan -- this was indeed my thinking: getting a CR-1 for replacement transport parts for my CR-7. Turns out it wasn't such a hot idea. I'll keep on looking for a CR-4, CR-5, or BX-300 for that. Unfortunately, most units of these models posted on ebay have a mechanical problem and/or are too expensive... -- Ron kannan_s at vsnl.com wrote: > > Ron > the basic Frame of sankyo transport is same including the capstan bearing / pinch roller block etc whether it is a two head or three head with DD motor or for that matter CR3 with belt driven dual capstans!, The frame has large number of holes to fix additional fixtures like the motor for Azimuth adjust in CR7. They have done a nice mod like splitting the head block in two for Play head azimuth tilt mechanism in CR7. But some parts may be differnt in different application but as for I know they are built on a same basic frame. > coming to drives - you have plenty of parts going on to the frame to make up Direct drive motor driven Dual capstan or belt driven mechanism. The second flywheel for the take up capstan in Cr3 is same as CR4. While the other capstan is different as it is part of Direct drive motor. > But if you are thinking of replacement for CR7 using CR1 two head mechanism- fitting large number of additional materials to a simple mechanism may not be worthwhile. Sometime that basic frame of ( CR1) may not have holes for fitting some additional parts for CR7. As these parts had been made by CNC punch press, the frame designer might have omitted unwanted holes for Dual capstan drive parts probably to reduce cost. Better look for an Diret drive mechanism like Bx300/ DRx /CR4 mechanisms as part for CR7 > > Kannan > > ra.ah at rcn.com wrote > > Do all CR series models use the same Sankyo transport? > For example, I understand that the CR-1 has 2 heads and > no motor for azimuth adjust, but does it use the same > basic transport as the CR-7 transport? > > -- Ron > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From sandorpistike at hotmail.com Thu Jan 16 22:43:41 2003 From: sandorpistike at hotmail.com (Sndor Istvn) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:43:41 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Istvn Message-ID: Hello Nelson, many thanks for spoiling me... ;-) (Beg for pardon of the others for being off-topic...) Istv�n >From: "Graham Nelson" >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: >Subject: [naktalk] Istv�n >Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 18:16:54 -0000 > >Istv�n > >Do not worry about your English - it may not be perfect but at least you >can >write it, which is more than a lot of people can do in English speaking >countries! :o) > >Graham > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > S�ndor Istv�n > > Sent: 16 January 2003 14:29 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning > > > > > > Dear Maurits, > > I wrote TOTEL (T like Tamagochi) because it is the name of the > > repair-service. > > But I mentioned Rotel before, as a brand-name of many, well known > > hifi-appliances like amplifiers, turntables, etc. > > Personally me did not even see any Rotel-tapedeck, so this is the > > reason I > > do not know them. But I heard this name many times as a supplier of good > > amplifiers. > > > > Of course I do not want to express that Rotel is more > > spohisticated. I know > > only Nakamichi tapedeck(s), and do not know Rotel tapedecks (is > > there any?). > > > > On the other hand I am totally satisfied with Nakamichi, this is > > the reason > > I do not really care about other decks regardless if there is a > > better deck > > or not. > > > > Hope it is clear now. Please let me know if my English is not possible >to > > understand. > > > > Istv�n > > > > > > > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From blueswapper at angelfire.com Fri Jan 17 04:40:55 2003 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:40:55 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) Message-ID: Dear NakTalk friends I'm pleased with the refreshing recent return to Nak related topics, and I'm quite intrigued with the growing international mix of the membership. Being a geographer and cartographer during my early professional career (that was twenty years ago, I'm now an information systems manager involved with geographic information system & global positioning system technologies), I'd like to gather information from NakTalkers to create a spatial database of who you are, where you live, years you've collected Nak gear, decks you possess, et cetera. With such a database of information, I could then easily create a nice global map showing where everyone resides in relation to each other. Selected information could also be attributed to locations and names. And from that a digital colored map image could then be created shared between all participating NakTalkers. This might be a fair amount of work for me, but let's see if there is interest and usefulness for the membership. Haven't you occasionally wondered where someone who posted a message lives in the world? Well, a global location map might be a nice visual compliment to understanding where your NakTalk friends are emailing us world-wide. I'm curious if others have similar feelings about furthering global comradery and understanding. Interested in supporting and furthering my idea? I will wait for your replies, directly to me or via NakTalk. Best regards, K.J. Bleus --- Help keep the blues alive! Give Peace A Chance!!! http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus From jvolpatti at earthlink.net Fri Jan 17 05:13:25 2003 From: jvolpatti at earthlink.net (Jim Volpatti) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:13:25 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: Message-ID: <3E2782E4.FA2DF86C@earthlink.net> What a great idea! I'm in San Francisco and have never owned a Nakamichi (the horror!!). Back when cassette decks where the primary consumer recording medium I was in my early teens and couldn't afford the deck of my dreams, the 682ZX. I spent my twenties working as a recording and sound reinforcement engineer and now, at the age of 38, own a high end stereo sales and consulting business. To say that I'm interested in all things audio related is an understatement and is the principle reason I'm on this list. I look forward to learning more about our fellow NakTalkers. Jim Volpatti Silent Lucidity The BlueSwapper wrote: > Dear NakTalk friends > > I'm pleased with the refreshing recent return to Nak related topics, and I'm quite intrigued with the growing international mix of the membership. Being a geographer and cartographer during my early professional career (that was twenty years ago, I'm now an information systems manager involved with geographic information system & global positioning system technologies), I'd like to gather information from NakTalkers to create a spatial database of who you are, where you live, years you've collected Nak gear, decks you possess, et cetera. With such a database of information, I could then easily create a nice global map showing where everyone resides in relation to each other. Selected information could also be attributed to locations and names. And from that a digital colored map image could then be created shared between all participating NakTalkers. This might be a fair amount of work for me, but let's see if there is interest and usefulness for the membership. > > Haven't you occasionally wondered where someone who posted a message lives in the world? Well, a global location map might be a nice visual compliment to understanding where your NakTalk friends are emailing us world-wide. I'm curious if others have similar feelings about furthering global comradery and understanding. > > Interested in supporting and furthering my idea? I will wait for your replies, directly to me or via NakTalk. > > Best regards, > > K.J. Bleus > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Give Peace A Chance!!! > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ra.ah at rcn.com Fri Jan 17 06:31:44 2003 From: ra.ah at rcn.com (Ron) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 00:31:44 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: Message-ID: <3E279540.49A197D2@rcn.com> I think it's an intriguing idea. I live in the Boston Metro West area, MA, USA. I am not a Nak collector -- I have simply owned one deck at a time, as a component in my sound (and now, A/V) system. My first Nak was the 700, purchased new in 1974. I replaced it with a new 582 in 1981; mostly, because I wanted a lower form factor, but using the opportunity to upgrade to a better deck. In 1997/98 I upgraded my whole system to a full fledged home theater. It made sense to upgrade the cassette deck as well. I thought I'd get the best Nak I could. After much soul searching I decided on a CR-7 (winning over a Dragon). I still have (and often use) this deck. I have a small collection of cassettes (about 100 pre-recorded and another couple of hundred of self recorded ones). While I still record onto cassettes from time to time, more and more of my recordings and compilations are now done to CD-R. -- Ron The BlueSwapper wrote: > > Dear NakTalk friends > > I'm pleased with the refreshing recent return to Nak related topics, and I'm quite intrigued with the growing international mix of the membership. Being a geographer and cartographer during my early professional career (that was twenty years ago, I'm now an information systems manager involved with geographic information system & global positioning system technologies), I'd like to gather information from NakTalkers to create a spatial database of who you are, where you live, years you've collected Nak gear, decks you possess, et cetera. With such a database of information, I could then easily create a nice global map showing where everyone resides in relation to each other. Selected information could also be attributed to locations and names. And from that a digital colored map image could then be created shared between all participating NakTalkers. This might be a fair amount of work for me, but let's see if there is interest and usefulness for the membership. > > Haven't you occasionally wondered where someone who posted a message lives in the world? Well, a global location map might be a nice visual compliment to understanding where your NakTalk friends are emailing us world-wide. I'm curious if others have similar feelings about furthering global comradery and understanding. > > Interested in supporting and furthering my idea? I will wait for your replies, directly to me or via NakTalk. > > Best regards, > > K.J. Bleus > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Give Peace A Chance!!! > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From sandorpistike at hotmail.com Fri Jan 17 08:00:14 2003 From: sandorpistike at hotmail.com (Sndor Istvn) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:00:14 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) Message-ID: Dear Mr. Bleus, of course I am interested. Though I am only a newbie here... I was debating about having a database of the Naks also, eg. type, and serial number. Can you or anyone amongst us read anythingh from the serial number, eg. where and when it was produced, and similars? Thank you for your cooperative initiation. Best regards, Istv�n >From: "The BlueSwapper" >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: naktalk at naks.com >CC: blueswapper at angelfire.com >Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) >Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:40:55 -0800 > >Dear NakTalk friends > >I'm pleased with the refreshing recent return to Nak related topics, and >I'm quite intrigued with the growing international mix of the membership. >Being a geographer and cartographer during my early professional career >(that was twenty years ago, I'm now an information systems manager involved >with geographic information system & global positioning system >technologies), I'd like to gather information from NakTalkers to create a >spatial database of who you are, where you live, years you've collected Nak >gear, decks you possess, et cetera. With such a database of information, I >could then easily create a nice global map showing where everyone resides >in relation to each other. Selected information could also be attributed to >locations and names. And from that a digital colored map image could then >be created shared between all participating NakTalkers. This might be a >fair amount of work for me, but let's see if there is interest and >usefulness for the membership. > >Haven't you occasionally wondered where someone who posted a message lives >in the world? Well, a global location map might be a nice visual >compliment to understanding where your NakTalk friends are emailing us >world-wide. I'm curious if others have similar feelings about furthering >global comradery and understanding. > >Interested in supporting and furthering my idea? I will wait for your >replies, directly to me or via NakTalk. > >Best regards, > >K.J. Bleus > >--- >Help keep the blues alive! Give Peace A Chance!!! >http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html >http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html > > > > >____________________________________________________________ >Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! >Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From Mhugo at sunint.co.za Fri Jan 17 09:11:55 2003 From: Mhugo at sunint.co.za (Mark Hugo) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:11:55 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:=20[naktalk]=20Istv=E1n?= Message-ID: Hello Istvan, Your English is fine, believe me. Graham is right. Many of my colleague "anglophiles" should be restrained from keyboards and their pens should be confiscated. As for Rotel cassette decks - yes I understood you that way too - referring to Rotel hi-fi in general. Their amps represent good material value and are very nicely laid out inside. Perfect for tweaking!! They did in fact have a few cassette decks. I'm pretty sure they outsourced the manufacture to someone else - but I could never pin it down. I'm aware of the RD 945, and RD 960 which succeeded the 800 series. They were tough and durable enough but contained no flair in the way of design, nor fireworks in the way of performance. Looks wise, they were unfortunately rather "agricultural" as with most Rotel gear of the era. I would say that they helped to fill the Rotel catalogue with a deck or two that performed the function of recording and playing back without being totally appalling. But no recordist's dream, that's for sure. Regards, Marc >>> graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk 01/16/03 08:16PM >>> István Do not worry about your English - it may not be perfect but at least you can write it, which is more than a lot of people can do in English speaking countries! :o) Graham > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Sándor István > Sent: 16 January 2003 14:29 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning > > > Dear Maurits, > I wrote TOTEL (T like Tamagochi) because it is the name of the > repair-service. > But I mentioned Rotel before, as a brand-name of many, well known > hifi-appliances like amplifiers, turntables, etc. > Personally me did not even see any Rotel-tapedeck, so this is the > reason I > do not know them. But I heard this name many times as a supplier of good > amplifiers. > > Of course I do not want to express that Rotel is more > spohisticated. I know > only Nakamichi tapedeck(s), and do not know Rotel tapedecks (is > there any?). > > On the other hand I am totally satisfied with Nakamichi, this is > the reason > I do not really care about other decks regardless if there is a > better deck > or not. > > Hope it is clear now. Please let me know if my English is not possible to > understand. > > István > > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient/s. If you are not the intended recipient, you cannot use, copy, distribute, disclose or retain the email or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying to this message and to permanently delete it and all attachments from your computer. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present in this email and the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. From jdieguez at wanadoo.es Fri Jan 17 12:03:37 2003 From: jdieguez at wanadoo.es (jdieguez) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:03:37 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] demagnetizer advice Message-ID: Hello!! I'm a newbie to nakamichi decks but I'm very happy with my 2nd hand DR-1. I bought it in really good condition but I want to obtain the best performance from it. So, I've cleaned the heads with isoprophyl alcohol, and also the pich roller with water. I'm thinking about using MEK (methyl ethyl ketone) for the pinch roller, can this do harm to it? The deck already sounds quite good, but now I would like to use a proper wand-type demagnetizer to squeeze every bit of quality out of it. Of course, I would love to get the DM-10, but this is very difficult to come by (abybody has got a spare 220 Volt DM10 for sale??) ;)) Other options usually found on ebay include these, I hope anybody can give me comments about them: 1. han-d-mag: maybe this is TOO powerful?? The deck already sounds good so I think maybe there's no need to use this nuclear-weapon on it!! 2. "The black one with the red button" http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3305829295&category=32093 3. "The DM10-like with no button" http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3001371677&category=15000 4. The expensive ferrograph defluxer" http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3305033357&category=32093 I'd appretiate any advice you can give me about these demagnetizers, I just want to use it to remove ocassional residual magnetization. Thanks!!!! Javi _____________________________________________________________________ Horas ilimitadas para leer y enviar correos con Tarifa Plana Wanadoo ¡¡ desde las 3 de la tarde!! Compruébalo en http://www.wanadoo.es/acceso-internet From hisself at ol-jim.com Fri Jan 17 13:13:43 2003 From: hisself at ol-jim.com (Ol' Jim, hisself) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 07:13:43 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_[naktalk]_Re:_[naktalk]_Istv=E1n?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3E27AD27.27989.1C8C294C@localhost> > Hello Istvan, > > Your English is fine, believe me. Graham is right. Many of my > colleague "anglophiles" should be restrained from keyboards and their > pens should be confiscated. > No FARE!! I talk reel gud, and I spel wurds gud, two! Ol' Jim, hisself Enjoyin' the Space Coast of Florida hisself at ol-jim.com http://www.ol-jim.com An armed society is a polite society. From hisself at ol-jim.com Fri Jan 17 13:16:22 2003 From: hisself at ol-jim.com (Ol' Jim, hisself) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 07:16:22 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3E27ADC6.10462.1C8E93D8@localhost> > Dear NakTalk friends > I'd like to gather information from > NakTalkers to create a spatial database of who you are, where you > live, years you've collected Nak gear, decks you possess, et cetera. How safe would such a database be?? Do we really know who listens in on this group? Ol' Jim, hisself Enjoyin' the Space Coast of Florida hisself at ol-jim.com http://www.ol-jim.com An armed society is a polite society. From m.raven at chello.nl Fri Jan 17 13:33:20 2003 From: m.raven at chello.nl (Maurits) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:33:20 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_=5Bnaktalk=5D_Re:_=5Bnaktalk=5D_Istv=E1n?= References: Message-ID: <002401c2be24$9e627d30$9e3cbbd4@raveneql1a1eu0> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Hugo" To: Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:11 AM Subject: [naktalk] Re: [naktalk] István > Hello Istvan, > > Hope it is clear now. Please let me know if my English is not possible to > > understand. No complaints at all! I inderstand every word of it. I'm living in the Netherlands, left from Germany. I suppose every Hongarian want to be an EC member. A stage girl worked for the watersupply company from Hungary told me the tomatoes and paprika's are much, much better over there ;-) Maurits From Ken.Gentry at gilbarco.com Fri Jan 17 15:30:29 2003 From: Ken.Gentry at gilbarco.com (Gentry, Ken) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:30:29 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) Message-ID: I live in Greensboro, NC (central NC, 90 miles west of Raleigh). I worked at a Nakamichi dealer in sales from 86 - 88. Once while working there, I got a chance to buy Nak gear at 60% off list. The only item I could afford (I was a lousy salesperson) was a CR-1. I used the deck for several years always making my own tapes for the car. In 96, my deck developed the control motor problem that I have recently been consulted here about. The deck stayed in it's box until two weeks ago when my wife wanted a tape for her car because our local radio choices are just awful. Ken PS - Yes I do kick myself constantly for not finding a way to at the time to buy a CR-3 for $300 or a CR-5 for $400! From ra.ah at rcn.com Fri Jan 17 16:01:07 2003 From: ra.ah at rcn.com (Ron) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:01:07 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: <3E27ADC6.10462.1C8E93D8@localhost> Message-ID: <3E281AB3.FFAC02B6@rcn.com> "Ol' Jim, hisself" wrote: > > > Dear NakTalk friends > > > I'd like to gather information from > > NakTalkers to create a spatial database of who you are, where you > > live, years you've collected Nak gear, decks you possess, et cetera. > > How safe would such a database be?? Do we really know who listens in on this group? What are you concerned about, Jim? That someone will steal your Nak deck identity? Just kidding... To be on the safe side, just refrain from posting your exact address. -- Ron From Mhugo at sunint.co.za Fri Jan 17 16:12:52 2003 From: Mhugo at sunint.co.za (Mark Hugo) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:12:52 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) Message-ID: Howdy Jim, You have a point, although I have an idea that we're a pretty benign bunch, all in all. Anyone who really doesn't like me (and still has a few scuds lying around) probably knows exactly where I stay already. Usually they tend to be the people in one's life already. Mind you, I care more about my Naks than my pelt. I'm in the back of beyond in Africa, and am more than willing to go with Bleu's concept of globally positioning us all. I am reminded of a local cartoonist's (Vic MacKenzie) quip a few years ago......."it's better to be wanted for murder than not to be wanted at all"............ Cheers, Marc >>> hisself at ol-jim.com 01/17/03 02:16PM >>> > Dear NakTalk friends > I'd like to gather information from > NakTalkers to create a spatial database of who you are, where you > live, years you've collected Nak gear, decks you possess, et cetera. How safe would such a database be?? Do we really know who listens in on this group? Ol' Jim, hisself Enjoyin' the Space Coast of Florida hisself at ol-jim.com http://www.ol-jim.com An armed society is a polite society. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. 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From alex at autoconsortium.com Fri Jan 17 16:32:29 2003 From: alex at autoconsortium.com (Alex Cagann) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:32:29 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) In-Reply-To: <3E281AB3.FFAC02B6@rcn.com> Message-ID: > > > I'd like to gather information from > > > NakTalkers to create a spatial database of who you are, where you > > > live, years you've collected Nak gear, decks you possess, et cetera. Hello Ol Joe. I live in Indianapolis, Indiana. Have lived here forever. I am 30 years old and have had a nak deck since I was 15. I was actually given a Nakamichi Dragon when I was 15. No, my parents didn't buy me one, they had neither the money nor the inclination for audio gear. I always loved audio gear but couldn't afford much at all. My friend's family was ultra wealthy. They had 3 dragons, a ton of Mac stuff, a ton of Luxman stuff, etc, etc. I got to know his parents quite well and often mentioned how much I loved their Nakamichi Dragons. They told me to take one! Damn...I'm not sure if that wasn't the happiest day of my life....being only 15 and getting a Dragon for free! I still have the deck and it has worked great for all these years. Stephen repaired it a couple years ago, some azimuth error and capstan motor tuning was needed. A year ago I bought an RX505 to compliment the Dragon. I got it on ebay for $350 and it looks like it was just pulled out of the box. The two magnificent Nak's completely dominate my audio system rack...damn Nak equipment is beautiful. I have no other Nakamichi equipment but I have talked my dad into putting a budget system together from ebay. I think he should opt for the LX5 deck and an OMS disc player. Also, Stephen, I think we are going to get one of your turntables....please email me about that as I lost your info. That's my story. I am enjoying reading the info on everyone...good idea Joe! I'm also very grateful for this list (thank you Wouter) because my friends/acquaintances/girlfriend could care less about discussing tape decks :-) Alex Cagann From alex at autoconsortium.com Fri Jan 17 16:36:22 2003 From: alex at autoconsortium.com (Alex Cagann) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:36:22 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) In-Reply-To: <3E281AB3.FFAC02B6@rcn.com> Message-ID: Sorry about some of my mistakes on my earlier email. I had misread the original email and thought Ol Jim (who I called Joe...duh) had posted the question. Please disregard my stupidity. I haven't quite woken up today....had a few cocktails last night while listening to the Dragon. :-) Alex Cagann http://www.autoconsortium.com From hisself at ol-jim.com Fri Jan 17 16:41:51 2003 From: hisself at ol-jim.com (Ol' Jim, hisself) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:41:51 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) In-Reply-To: <3E281AB3.FFAC02B6@rcn.com> Message-ID: <3E27DDEF.26615.1D4AB52A@localhost> > What are you concerned about, Jim? That someone will steal your > Nak deck identity? Just kidding... To be on the safe side, just > refrain from posting your exact address. > More worried that someone might steal one, or all, of my Naks. OTOH, considering the value of the BX series, I guess it really wouldn't matter. Of course, the LX is another thing entirely. Ol' Jim, hisself Enjoyin' the Space Coast of Florida hisself at ol-jim.com http://www.ol-jim.com An armed society is a polite society. From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Fri Jan 17 16:56:41 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 22:56:41 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] OT: rubber reconditioner Message-ID: <005a01c2be41$072349a0$b51a9bca@smarzuki> Hi all, Does anybody know how to recondition a very old rubber belt ? A turntable belt has snapped and the only spare is also old and brittle. Any idea to save the belt is much appreciated ... it is a hard-to-find 35 inch beogram 4002 belt. Thanks much in advance, Salim SM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Fri Jan 17 17:10:08 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 23:10:08 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: Message-ID: <005b01c2be42$e8306580$b51a9bca@smarzuki> Excellent idea KJ ! I was hoping that one day the 'nakster brotherhood album' idea will materialise .. the marathon page was a good kickoff and this seems to be a natural follow up. Allright, here goes: Hello, my name is Salim, and I am a nakaholic. I was hypnotised by the feather touch control of 700 tri tracer back in 1974 when I was 11 years old - only some 22 yrs later I was able to afford my own new CR4. After making the mistake of joining naktalk now I realize I have 2 ears and stupidly own 17 naks ! Best regards from Jakarta, Indonesia. ----- Original Message ----- From: The BlueSwapper To: naktalk at naks.com Cc: blueswapper at angelfire.com Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:40 AM Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) Dear NakTalk friends I'm pleased with the refreshing recent return to Nak related topics, and I'm quite intrigued with the growing international mix of the membership. Being a geographer and cartographer during my early professional career (that was twenty years ago, I'm now an information systems manager involved with geographic information system & global positioning system technologies), I'd like to gather information from NakTalkers to create a spatial database of who you are, where you live, years you've collected Nak gear, decks you possess, et cetera. With such a database of information, I could then easily create a nice global map showing where everyone resides in relation to each other. Selected information could also be attributed to locations and names. And from that a digital colored map image could then be created shared between all participating NakTalkers. This might be a fair amount of work for me, but let's see if there is interest and usefulness for the membership. Haven't you occasionally wondered where someone who posted a message lives in the world? Well, a global location map might be a nice visual compliment to understanding where your NakTalk friends are emailing us world-wide. I'm curious if others have similar feelings about furthering global comradery and understanding. Interested in supporting and furthering my idea? I will wait for your replies, directly to me or via NakTalk. Best regards, K.J. Bleus From jmtooley at ce.net Fri Jan 17 17:30:44 2003 From: jmtooley at ce.net (John M. Tooley) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:30:44 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: Message-ID: <001d01c2be45$c9034210$f9106343@johnnyrotten> John M. Tooley Milton, DE Nakamichi ZXL 700 Put me on the map bro'. John T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "The BlueSwapper" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:40 PM Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > Dear NakTalk friends > > I'm pleased with the refreshing recent return to Nak related topics, and I'm quite intrigued with the growing international mix of the membership. Being a geographer and cartographer during my early professional career (that was twenty years ago, I'm now an information systems manager involved with geographic information system & global positioning system technologies), I'd like to gather information from NakTalkers to create a spatial database of who you are, where you live, years you've collected Nak gear, decks you possess, et cetera. With such a database of information, I could then easily create a nice global map showing where everyone resides in relation to each other. Selected information could also be attributed to locations and names. And from that a digital colored map image could then be created shared between all participating NakTalkers. This might be a fair amount of work for me, but let's see if there is interest and usefulness for the membership. > > Haven't you occasionally wondered where someone who posted a message lives in the world? Well, a global location map might be a nice visual compliment to understanding where your NakTalk friends are emailing us world-wide. I'm curious if others have similar feelings about furthering global comradery and understanding. > > Interested in supporting and furthering my idea? I will wait for your replies, directly to me or via NakTalk. > > Best regards, > > K.J. Bleus > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Give Peace A Chance!!! > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > From John at jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk Fri Jan 17 17:34:03 2003 From: John at jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk (John Walker) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:34:03 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] demagnetizer advice References: Message-ID: <3E28307B.5090407@jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk> Javi I would avoid any demagnetizer with a switch - you must *not* turn it on or off anywhere near the deck, as that would make the permanent magnetization worse instead of better. You only need a cheap item. The seller for the Ferrograph piece is well known for asking (and getting) high prices, which is not justified in this case. I understand that Kurt Fisher of US Recording Media has plans to introduce a new design to the market - ask him usrecordingmedia at rcn.com You might mention my name too. John Walker From jmtooley at ce.net Fri Jan 17 17:39:30 2003 From: jmtooley at ce.net (John M. Tooley) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:39:30 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: <3E2782E4.FA2DF86C@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <002901c2be47$033c3cb0$f9106343@johnnyrotten> Jim, you gotta get a Nak. Treat yourself to something nice as surely you must come across these machines from time to time via rich audio people who always want the latest and the greatest and would probably swap a Dragon for a dual CD burner that used tubes and cost $5000! ;-) John T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Volpatti" To: Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > What a great idea! > > I'm in San Francisco and have never owned a Nakamichi (the horror!!). Back when cassette decks where the primary consumer recording medium I was in my early teens and couldn't afford the deck of my dreams, the 682ZX. I spent my twenties working as a recording and sound reinforcement engineer and now, at the age of 38, own a high end stereo sales and consulting business. To say that I'm interested in all things audio related is an understatement and is the principle reason I'm on this list. > > I look forward to learning more about our fellow NakTalkers. > > Jim Volpatti > Silent Lucidity > > > > The BlueSwapper wrote: > > > Dear NakTalk friends > > > > I'm pleased with the refreshing recent return to Nak related topics, and I'm quite intrigued with the growing international mix of the membership. Being a geographer and cartographer during my early professional career (that was twenty years ago, I'm now an information systems manager involved with geographic information system & global positioning system technologies), I'd like to gather information from NakTalkers to create a spatial database of who you are, where you live, years you've collected Nak gear, decks you possess, et cetera. With such a database of information, I could then easily create a nice global map showing where everyone resides in relation to each other. Selected information could also be attributed to locations and names. And from that a digital colored map image could then be created shared between all participating NakTalkers. This might be a fair amount of work for me, but let's see if there is interest and usefulness for the membership. > > > > Haven't you occasionally wondered where someone who posted a message lives in the world? Well, a global location map might be a nice visual compliment to understanding where your NakTalk friends are emailing us world-wide. I'm curious if others have similar feelings about furthering global comradery and understanding. > > > > Interested in supporting and furthering my idea? I will wait for your replies, directly to me or via NakTalk. > > > > Best regards, > > > > K.J. Bleus > > > > --- > > Help keep the blues alive! Give Peace A Chance!!! > > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html > > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > > Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > > From jmtooley at ce.net Fri Jan 17 17:48:43 2003 From: jmtooley at ce.net (John M. Tooley) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:48:43 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: <3E279540.49A197D2@rcn.com> Message-ID: <003401c2be48$4bfe1260$f9106343@johnnyrotten> I started with Aiwa and Sony machines the last of which both being Dolby B, C and HX Pro. Then a Nak. 700 followed by a 700 II which was beautifully restored by Stephen Sank. Stephen now has a ZXL machine of mine with outboard Dolby C unit getting the dreaded orange cap disease treatment. John T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron" To: Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 12:31 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > I think it's an intriguing idea. > > I live in the Boston Metro West area, MA, USA. I am not a Nak > collector -- I have simply owned one deck at a time, as a > component in my sound (and now, A/V) system. My first Nak was > the 700, purchased new in 1974. I replaced it with a new 582 > in 1981; mostly, because I wanted a lower form factor, but > using the opportunity to upgrade to a better deck. > > In 1997/98 I upgraded my whole system to a full fledged home > theater. It made sense to upgrade the cassette deck as well. I > thought I'd get the best Nak I could. After much soul searching > I decided on a CR-7 (winning over a Dragon). I still have (and > often use) this deck. > > I have a small collection of cassettes (about 100 pre-recorded > and another couple of hundred of self recorded ones). While I > still record onto cassettes from time to time, more and more of > my recordings and compilations are now done to CD-R. > > -- Ron > > > The BlueSwapper wrote: > > > > Dear NakTalk friends > > > > I'm pleased with the refreshing recent return to Nak related topics, and I'm quite intrigued with the growing international mix of the membership. Being a geographer and cartographer during my early professional career (that was twenty years ago, I'm now an information systems manager involved with geographic information system & global positioning system technologies), I'd like to gather information from NakTalkers to create a spatial database of who you are, where you live, years you've collected Nak gear, decks you possess, et cetera. With such a database of information, I could then easily create a nice global map showing where everyone resides in relation to each other. Selected information could also be attributed to locations and names. And from that a digital colored map image could then be created shared between all participating NakTalkers. This might be a fair amount of work for me, but let's see if there is interest and usefulness for the membership. > > > > Haven't you occasionally wondered where someone who posted a message lives in the world? Well, a global location map might be a nice visual compliment to understanding where your NakTalk friends are emailing us world-wide. I'm curious if others have similar feelings about furthering global comradery and understanding. > > > > Interested in supporting and furthering my idea? I will wait for your replies, directly to me or via NakTalk. > > > > Best regards, > > > > K.J. Bleus > > > > --- > > Help keep the blues alive! Give Peace A Chance!!! > > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html > > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > > Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > From John at jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk Fri Jan 17 17:51:28 2003 From: John at jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk (John Walker) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:51:28 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: Message-ID: <3E283490.9040809@jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk> Hello Mr Bleus, nice to see you catalysing and coordinating again. Dr John Walker, 46 years old, Portland UK. My postcode begins DT5. I have two vintage Naks, a 700II and a 550. I aspire to a 1000ZXL or maybe a CR-7. Or perhaps I will just get a 32-track open reel. I also have a Revox A-77 open reel, and a Marantz 23 tuner (I knew that would get your interest!) I have only been interested in Nakamichis since I discovered eBay a couple of years ago. I appreciate the sound quality that Nakamichi obtained despite the limitations of the cassette medium, and the analytical approach that permeates the company's engineering - pressure pad lifter, playback azimuth adjustment, logic controls, dual flywheels, three heads - all that kind of stuff. I find this reminiscent of the way Rolls-Royce built its early cars. enough meandering, I look forward to seeing the map painted red and black! John Walker From jmtooley at ce.net Fri Jan 17 18:39:44 2003 From: jmtooley at ce.net (John M. Tooley) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:39:44 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] OT: rubber reconditioner References: <005a01c2be41$072349a0$b51a9bca@smarzuki> Message-ID: <00ec01c2be4f$6c29d590$f9106343@johnnyrotten> I think I would email B&O in Denmark who hopefully could suggest some good soul in US who might still have some. John T. ----- Original Message ----- From: Salim Marzuki To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:56 AM Subject: [naktalk] OT: rubber reconditioner Hi all, Does anybody know how to recondition a very old rubber belt ? A turntable belt has snapped and the only spare is also old and brittle. Any idea to save the belt is much appreciated ... it is a hard-to-find 35 inch beogram 4002 belt. Thanks much in advance, Salim SM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmtooley at ce.net Fri Jan 17 18:46:04 2003 From: jmtooley at ce.net (John M. Tooley) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:46:04 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: Message-ID: <00f801c2be50$4eb1c710$f9106343@johnnyrotten> Mr. Bleus, Any word on the marathon cassette / CD compilation from Carlos? I hope everything is okay with him as I haven't seen him surface in ages. Carlos, where are you? You at least must be warmer there in PR than here in mainland US. We are expecting 11 balmy degrees tonight! John T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "The BlueSwapper" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:40 PM Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > Dear NakTalk friends > > I'm pleased with the refreshing recent return to Nak related topics, and I'm quite intrigued with the growing international mix of the membership. Being a geographer and cartographer during my early professional career (that was twenty years ago, I'm now an information systems manager involved with geographic information system & global positioning system technologies), I'd like to gather information from NakTalkers to create a spatial database of who you are, where you live, years you've collected Nak gear, decks you possess, et cetera. With such a database of information, I could then easily create a nice global map showing where everyone resides in relation to each other. Selected information could also be attributed to locations and names. And from that a digital colored map image could then be created shared between all participating NakTalkers. This might be a fair amount of work for me, but let's see if there is interest and usefulness for the membership. > > Haven't you occasionally wondered where someone who posted a message lives in the world? Well, a global location map might be a nice visual compliment to understanding where your NakTalk friends are emailing us world-wide. I'm curious if others have similar feelings about furthering global comradery and understanding. > > Interested in supporting and furthering my idea? I will wait for your replies, directly to me or via NakTalk. > > Best regards, > > K.J. Bleus > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Give Peace A Chance!!! > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > From roleo at telus.net Fri Jan 17 18:55:57 2003 From: roleo at telus.net (Roland Alford) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:55:57 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] OT: rubber reconditioner References: <005a01c2be41$072349a0$b51a9bca@smarzuki> <00ec01c2be4f$6c29d590$f9106343@johnnyrotten> Message-ID: <000d01c2be51$b06fa390$8075059a@desktop> Salim, Check out these two sites. If they don't ship direct, I'm sure one of our boys in the good ol' US of A wouldn't mind helping out in ordering it and shipping it to you. I wouldn't waste time with brittle rubber if fresh stuff is available. Perhaps get two and seal one in plastic for the future since they are getting rare I understand. --Roland http://www.19art.net/music/lp/belts.htm http://www.turntablebelts.com/bang.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: John M. Tooley To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] OT: rubber reconditioner I think I would email B&O in Denmark who hopefully could suggest some good soul in US who might still have some. John T. ----- Original Message ----- From: Salim Marzuki To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:56 AM Subject: [naktalk] OT: rubber reconditioner Hi all, Does anybody know how to recondition a very old rubber belt ? A turntable belt has snapped and the only spare is also old and brittle. Any idea to save the belt is much appreciated ... it is a hard-to-find 35 inch beogram 4002 belt. Thanks much in advance, Salim SM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.raven at chello.nl Fri Jan 17 19:49:15 2003 From: m.raven at chello.nl (Maurits) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 19:49:15 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: <001d01c2be45$c9034210$f9106343@johnnyrotten> Message-ID: <01b501c2be59$22793210$9e3cbbd4@raveneql1a1eu0> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John M. Tooley" To: Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) Maurits J. Raven The Netherlands LX-5 Maurits From m.raven at chello.nl Fri Jan 17 19:59:05 2003 From: m.raven at chello.nl (Maurits) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 19:59:05 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: <00f801c2be50$4eb1c710$f9106343@johnnyrotten> Message-ID: <01ec01c2be5a$84e35420$9e3cbbd4@raveneql1a1eu0> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John M. Tooley" To: Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > Mr. Bleus, > > Any word on the marathon cassette / CD compilation from Carlos? I hope > everything is okay with him as I haven't seen him surface in ages. > > Carlos, where are you? You at least must be warmer there in PR than here in > mainland US. We are expecting 11 balmy degrees tonight! -/or + ? The Amsterdam-guy named Fahrenheit? I't's now + five degrees Celcius over here. The airbase nearby has a lot of activity. They bring support for F-16 's to Afghanistan. The Germans and Dutch pilots do a lot air defence over there. I think it's better to get Karadidz, Mladic and Osama ;-) Sorry for the political issue. I don't do it again. Maurits From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Fri Jan 17 21:23:17 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 20:23:17 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Rotel Cassettes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001201c2be66$4540a000$01e3193e@oemcomputer> > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Mark Hugo > Sent: 17 January 2003 08:12 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] Re: [naktalk] István > > > > They did in fact have a few cassette decks. I'm pretty sure they > outsourced the manufacture to someone else - but I could never > pin it down. I did woinder if there was a tie-in with Yamaha as they appeared to use similar "tone" controls. Gra' > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Fri Jan 17 21:23:22 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 20:23:22 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Jim! In-Reply-To: <3E27AD27.27989.1C8C294C@localhost> Message-ID: <001301c2be66$4810d700$01e3193e@oemcomputer> Jim You must acquaint yourself to the works of John Clare, a brilliant poet who saw no benefit in worrying about punctuation marks or correct spelling! To keep this on topic .... I am sure John Clare would have LOVED Nakamichi cassette decks! Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Ol' Jim, hisself > Sent: 17 January 2003 12:14 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] Re: [naktalk] Re: [naktalk] István > > > > Hello Istvan, > > > > Your English is fine, believe me. Graham is right. Many of my > > colleague "anglophiles" should be restrained from keyboards and their > > pens should be confiscated. > > > > No FARE!! I talk reel gud, and I spel wurds gud, two! > > Ol' Jim, hisself Enjoyin' the Space Coast of Florida > hisself at ol-jim.com http://www.ol-jim.com > > An armed society is a polite society. > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Fri Jan 17 21:23:29 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 20:23:29 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) In-Reply-To: <3E27DDEF.26615.1D4AB52A@localhost> Message-ID: <001501c2be66$4c30bf80$01e3193e@oemcomputer> They wouldn't dare steal from you, Jim - you're ARMED!! :o) G > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Ol' Jim, hisself > Sent: 17 January 2003 15:42 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > > > What are you concerned about, Jim? That someone will steal your > > Nak deck identity? Just kidding... To be on the safe side, just > > refrain from posting your exact address. > > > > More worried that someone might steal one, or all, of my Naks. > OTOH, considering the > value of the BX series, I guess it really wouldn't matter. Of > course, the LX is another > thing entirely. > > Ol' Jim, hisself Enjoyin' the Space Coast of Florida > hisself at ol-jim.com http://www.ol-jim.com > > An armed society is a polite society. > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Fri Jan 17 21:23:31 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 20:23:31 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) In-Reply-To: <002901c2be47$033c3cb0$f9106343@johnnyrotten> Message-ID: <001601c2be66$4d55b780$01e3193e@oemcomputer> Yep, I've got a nice RX-505 on e-bay right now ... :o) > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > John M. Tooley > Sent: 17 January 2003 16:40 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > > Jim, you gotta get a Nak. Treat yourself to something nice as surely you > must come across these machines from time to time via rich audio > people who > always want the latest and the greatest and would probably swap a > Dragon for > a dual CD burner that used tubes and cost $5000! ;-) > > John T. > > - > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Fri Jan 17 21:36:40 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 20:36:40 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001801c2be68$23a6b7c0$01e3193e@oemcomputer> I'm ALMOST 48 (birthday next month, guys ... get buying those presents for me ...) and live near Liverpool in the UK. I started with cassette way back 29 years ago when I bought a Sony unit that packed it's own amplifier and speakers. I've still got it ... for old times sake, not to use. I upgraded to a Aiwa AD1800 (top of the range in the UK at the time I bought it) about 3 years later, which gave good service for a number of years and still doesn't sound too bad. At that time I also heard about Nakamichi ... but they were way out of my price range. A couple or so years ago, I picked up a brand new Pioneer CTS830S @ half price. I know some of you aren't impressed by the Pioneer decks but this one does an excellent job in Dolby S and is brilliant at bringing life back into very old recordings. It will also play and record on tapes as long as C120 without any problems ... can't say that about a Nak! However ... I got my first Nak', a BX-1, courtesy of Stephen almost two years ago. A few months later, fortune smiled on me, I got a small windfall and acquired a ZX-9 from a fellow in Holland. Oh, that ZX-9 .... who needs Dolby S with one of these??? Last year I also bought a RX-505 on e-Bay. I've never touched, let alone heard it because it went straight to Stephen for servicing and repair and is now on sale on e-Bay. (Bidding is currently at the ridiculously low price of $375 ... I hope it goes higher than that!) I have also recently bought a ReVox B215 but have not yet received it - it's in transit from Paris. Luckily, there is a ReVox service engineer only an hour's drive from here, so I am hoping this deck will offer me god service, too. My next purchase ... I might be tempted by a CR7, for the azimuth adjust' playback, as an alternative to the Pioneer but, more likely, I think I may go for a HD recorder with built-in CD/R ... Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > The BlueSwapper > Sent: 17 January 2003 03:41 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Cc: blueswapper at angelfire.com > Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > > Dear NakTalk friends > > I'm pleased with the refreshing recent return to Nak related > topics, and I'm quite intrigued with the growing international > mix of the membership. Being a geographer and cartographer > during my early professional career (that was twenty years ago, > I'm now an information systems manager involved with geographic > information system & global positioning system technologies), I'd > like to gather information from NakTalkers to create a spatial > database of who you are, where you live, years you've collected > Nak gear, decks you possess, et cetera. With such a database of > information, I could then easily create a nice global map showing > where everyone resides in relation to each other. Selected > information could also be attributed to locations and names. And > from that a digital colored map image could then be created > shared between all participating NakTalkers. This might be a > fair amount of work for me, but let's see if there is interest > and usefulness for the membership. > > Haven't you occasionally wondered where someone who posted a > message lives in the world? Well, a global location map might be > a nice visual compliment to understanding where your NakTalk > friends are emailing us world-wide. I'm curious if others have > similar feelings about furthering global comradery and understanding. > > Interested in supporting and furthering my idea? I will wait for > your replies, directly to me or via NakTalk. > > Best regards, > > K.J. Bleus > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Give Peace A Chance!!! > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 From khmerideth at anderson.edu Fri Jan 17 22:13:39 2003 From: khmerideth at anderson.edu (Kent Merideth) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:13:39 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) Message-ID: Gra, When you say you hope the B215 "will provide you god service, too.", I noticed you used the lower case "g" instead of the upper case "G". Of course, this would NOT be a case of us highly proficient English speaking/writing people having our fingers not conveying what our brain is telling them. ;-P This repartee coming from one that has trouble with "of" and "off". Yes, the B215 is a great deck, especially if you are making a tape for someone not having a Nak deck. Kent >>> graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk 01/17/03 03:36PM >>> I'm ALMOST 48 (birthday next month, guys ... get buying those presents for me ...) and live near Liverpool in the UK. I started with cassette way back 29 years ago when I bought a Sony unit that packed it's own amplifier and speakers. I've still got it ... for old times sake, not to use. I upgraded to a Aiwa AD1800 (top of the range in the UK at the time I bought it) about 3 years later, which gave good service for a number of years and still doesn't sound too bad. At that time I also heard about Nakamichi ... but they were way out of my price range. A couple or so years ago, I picked up a brand new Pioneer CTS830S @ half price. I know some of you aren't impressed by the Pioneer decks but this one does an excellent job in Dolby S and is brilliant at bringing life back into very old recordings. It will also play and record on tapes as long as C120 without any problems ... can't say that about a Nak! However ... I got my first Nak', a BX-1, courtesy of Stephen almost two years ago. A few months later, fortune smiled on me, I got a small windfall and acquired a ZX-9 from a fellow in Holland. Oh, that ZX-9 .... who needs Dolby S with one of these??? Last year I also bought a RX-505 on e-Bay. I've never touched, let alone heard it because it went straight to Stephen for servicing and repair and is now on sale on e-Bay. (Bidding is currently at the ridiculously low price of $375 ... I hope it goes higher than that!) I have also recently bought a ReVox B215 but have not yet received it - it's in transit from Paris. Luckily, there is a ReVox service engineer only an hour's drive from here, so I am hoping this deck will offer me god service, too. My next purchase ... I might be tempted by a CR7, for the azimuth adjust' playback, as an alternative to the Pioneer but, more likely, I think I may go for a HD recorder with built-in CD/R ... Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > The BlueSwapper > Sent: 17 January 2003 03:41 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Cc: blueswapper at angelfire.com > Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > > Dear NakTalk friends > > I'm pleased with the refreshing recent return to Nak related > topics, and I'm quite intrigued with the growing international > mix of the membership. Being a geographer and cartographer > during my early professional career (that was twenty years ago, > I'm now an information systems manager involved with geographic > information system & global positioning system technologies), I'd > like to gather information from NakTalkers to create a spatial > database of who you are, where you live, years you've collected > Nak gear, decks you possess, et cetera. With such a database of > information, I could then easily create a nice global map showing > where everyone resides in relation to each other. Selected > information could also be attributed to locations and names. And > from that a digital colored map image could then be created > shared between all participating NakTalkers. This might be a > fair amount of work for me, but let's see if there is interest > and usefulness for the membership. > > Haven't you occasionally wondered where someone who posted a > message lives in the world? Well, a global location map might be > a nice visual compliment to understanding where your NakTalk > friends are emailing us world-wide. I'm curious if others have > similar feelings about furthering global comradery and understanding. > > Interested in supporting and furthering my idea? I will wait for > your replies, directly to me or via NakTalk. > > Best regards, > > K.J. Bleus > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Give Peace A Chance!!! > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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I had always admired Naks, and became quite jealous of my son who recieved one as a gift from a friend who had tired of it.....yes really!.... a number of years ago. Deciding to go for the best, and hoping that the auto-azimuth capabilities of the Dragon would make it more capable of playing my old tapes, I gathered my nerve and went shopping on Ebay. The Dragon is in for an overhaul at ESL, and Jeff there has been very gracious. When it returns, the CR7a will go in. Wish I could help with some advice, but I am just learning the ins and outs of Naks, and, as I said, I am very gratefull to all of you for your open and free advice. R Kent S.F. Bay Area From stan.targowski at attbi.com Fri Jan 17 23:40:59 2003 From: stan.targowski at attbi.com (Stan Targowski) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:40:59 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Kent, I think what Graham meant was "good" instead of "God". Unless I am missing something. English ... Was in a meeting with a bunch of folks from UK, and terms, like "slam dunk", "cover all bases", needed further explanation. Stan -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of Kent Merideth Sent: Fri, January 17, 2003 3:14 PM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: RE: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) Gra, When you say you hope the B215 "will provide you god service, too.", I noticed you used the lower case "g" instead of the upper case "G". Of course, this would NOT be a case of us highly proficient English speaking/writing people having our fingers not conveying what our brain is telling them. ;-P This repartee coming from one that has trouble with "of" and "off". Yes, the B215 is a great deck, especially if you are making a tape for someone not having a Nak deck. Kent >>> graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk 01/17/03 03:36PM >>> I'm ALMOST 48 (birthday next month, guys ... get buying those presents for me ...) and live near Liverpool in the UK. I started with cassette way back 29 years ago when I bought a Sony unit that packed it's own amplifier and speakers. I've still got it ... for old times sake, not to use. I upgraded to a Aiwa AD1800 (top of the range in the UK at the time I bought it) about 3 years later, which gave good service for a number of years and still doesn't sound too bad. At that time I also heard about Nakamichi ... but they were way out of my price range. A couple or so years ago, I picked up a brand new Pioneer CTS830S @ half price. I know some of you aren't impressed by the Pioneer decks but this one does an excellent job in Dolby S and is brilliant at bringing life back into very old recordings. It will also play and record on tapes as long as C120 without any problems ... can't say that about a Nak! However ... I got my first Nak', a BX-1, courtesy of Stephen almost two years ago. A few months later, fortune smiled on me, I got a small windfall and acquired a ZX-9 from a fellow in Holland. Oh, that ZX-9 .... who needs Dolby S with one of these??? Last year I also bought a RX-505 on e-Bay. I've never touched, let alone heard it because it went straight to Stephen for servicing and repair and is now on sale on e-Bay. (Bidding is currently at the ridiculously low price of $375 ... I hope it goes higher than that!) I have also recently bought a ReVox B215 but have not yet received it - it's in transit from Paris. Luckily, there is a ReVox service engineer only an hour's drive from here, so I am hoping this deck will offer me god service, too. My next purchase ... I might be tempted by a CR7, for the azimuth adjust' playback, as an alternative to the Pioneer but, more likely, I think I may go for a HD recorder with built-in CD/R ... Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > The BlueSwapper > Sent: 17 January 2003 03:41 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Cc: blueswapper at angelfire.com > Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > > Dear NakTalk friends > > I'm pleased with the refreshing recent return to Nak related > topics, and I'm quite intrigued with the growing international > mix of the membership. Being a geographer and cartographer > during my early professional career (that was twenty years ago, > I'm now an information systems manager involved with geographic > information system & global positioning system technologies), I'd > like to gather information from NakTalkers to create a spatial > database of who you are, where you live, years you've collected > Nak gear, decks you possess, et cetera. With such a database of > information, I could then easily create a nice global map showing > where everyone resides in relation to each other. Selected > information could also be attributed to locations and names. And > from that a digital colored map image could then be created > shared between all participating NakTalkers. This might be a > fair amount of work for me, but let's see if there is interest > and usefulness for the membership. > > Haven't you occasionally wondered where someone who posted a > message lives in the world? Well, a global location map might be > a nice visual compliment to understanding where your NakTalk > friends are emailing us world-wide. I'm curious if others have > similar feelings about furthering global comradery and understanding. > > Interested in supporting and furthering my idea? I will wait for > your replies, directly to me or via NakTalk. > > Best regards, > > K.J. Bleus > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Give Peace A Chance!!! > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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John T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Nelson" To: Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 3:23 PM Subject: RE: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > Yep, I've got a nice RX-505 on e-bay right now ... :o) > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > John M. Tooley > > Sent: 17 January 2003 16:40 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > > > > > Jim, you gotta get a Nak. Treat yourself to something nice as surely you > > must come across these machines from time to time via rich audio > > people who > > always want the latest and the greatest and would probably swap a > > Dragon for > > a dual CD burner that used tubes and cost $5000! ;-) > > > > John T. > > > > - > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > > From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Fri Jan 17 23:49:39 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 22:49:39 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002001c2be7a$b75b59a0$01e3193e@oemcomputer> I have dyslexic fingers, Kent! Gra' -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of Kent Merideth Sent: 17 January 2003 21:14 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: RE: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) Gra, When you say you hope the B215 "will provide you god service, too.", I noticed you used the lower case "g" instead of the upper case "G". Of course, this would NOT be a case of us highly proficient English speaking/writing people having our fingers not conveying what our brain is telling them. ;-P This repartee coming from one that has trouble with "of" and "off". Yes, the B215 is a great deck, especially if you are making a tape for someone not having a Nak deck. Kent >>> graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk 01/17/03 03:36PM >>> I'm ALMOST 48 (birthday next month, guys ... get buying those presents for me ...) and live near Liverpool in the UK. I started with cassette way back 29 years ago when I bought a Sony unit that packed it's own amplifier and speakers. I've still got it ... for old times sake, not to use. I upgraded to a Aiwa AD1800 (top of the range in the UK at the time I bought it) about 3 years later, which gave good service for a number of years and still doesn't sound too bad. At that time I also heard about Nakamichi ... but they were way out of my price range. A couple or so years ago, I picked up a brand new Pioneer CTS830S @ half price. I know some of you aren't impressed by the Pioneer decks but this one does an excellent job in Dolby S and is brilliant at bringing life back into very old recordings. It will also play and record on tapes as long as C120 without any problems ... can't say that about a Nak! However ... I got my first Nak', a BX-1, courtesy of Stephen almost two years ago. A few months later, fortune smiled on me, I got a small windfall and acquired a ZX-9 from a fellow in Holland. Oh, that ZX-9 .... who needs Dolby S with one of these??? Last year I also bought a RX-505 on e-Bay. I've never touched, let alone heard it because it went straight to Stephen for servicing and repair and is now on sale on e-Bay. (Bidding is currently at the ridiculously low price of $375 ... I hope it goes higher than that!) I have also recently bought a ReVox B215 but have not yet received it - it's in transit from Paris. Luckily, there is a ReVox service engineer only an hour's drive from here, so I am hoping this deck will offer me god service, too. My next purchase ... I might be tempted by a CR7, for the azimuth adjust' playback, as an alternative to the Pioneer but, more likely, I think I may go for a HD recorder with built-in CD/R ... Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > The BlueSwapper > Sent: 17 January 2003 03:41 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Cc: blueswapper at angelfire.com > Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > > Dear NakTalk friends > > I'm pleased with the refreshing recent return to Nak related > topics, and I'm quite intrigued with the growing international > mix of the membership. Being a geographer and cartographer > during my early professional career (that was twenty years ago, > I'm now an information systems manager involved with geographic > information system & global positioning system technologies), I'd > like to gather information from NakTalkers to create a spatial > database of who you are, where you live, years you've collected > Nak gear, decks you possess, et cetera. With such a database of > information, I could then easily create a nice global map showing > where everyone resides in relation to each other. Selected > information could also be attributed to locations and names. And > from that a digital colored map image could then be created > shared between all participating NakTalkers. This might be a > fair amount of work for me, but let's see if there is interest > and usefulness for the membership. > > Haven't you occasionally wondered where someone who posted a > message lives in the world? Well, a global location map might be > a nice visual compliment to understanding where your NakTalk > friends are emailing us world-wide. I'm curious if others have > similar feelings about furthering global comradery and understanding. > > Interested in supporting and furthering my idea? I will wait for > your replies, directly to me or via NakTalk. > > Best regards, > > K.J. Bleus > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Give Peace A Chance!!! > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 From Wwtgraham at aol.com Sat Jan 18 02:17:08 2003 From: Wwtgraham at aol.com (Wwtgraham at aol.com) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 20:17:08 EST Subject: [naktalk] Dragon Message-ID: Hello I have a Dragon and it only plays in the Reverse direction. When I push play in the forward direction it goes though the motion and stop all so the fast forward doesn't work and the fast rewind works. Any help would be appreciated William -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rubidium7 at attbi.com Sat Jan 18 03:38:38 2003 From: rubidium7 at attbi.com (Jim Collins) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:38:38 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Need SR4A schematic Message-ID: <005f01c2be9a$b4a1aa50$0200a8c0@downstairs> Is there anyone of you who could help me with a partial schematic for a Nakamichi SR4A receiver ? Please email me directly if you do. Thanks, JC Hit by lightning and need a few power supply parts. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fidelman at telcel.net.ve Sat Jan 18 07:20:10 2003 From: fidelman at telcel.net.ve (Isy Fidelman) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 02:20:10 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: Message-ID: <006001c2beb9$b06dfaa0$486523c8@g8nsv> Hi fellows!!! I totally love the idea....my name is Isy Fidelman, I am 29 years old, in 6 months I'll be a dentist and I started to get into this when I was 9 years old and my father bought a 1000ZXL. After his death almost 7 years ago, I inherited the 1000ZXL and since then I added a LX-5 which I love, a CR-7, a Dragon and a 1000ZXL Limited. Used to work with my fahter at a pro audio store we used to have but I sold it 2 years ago when the economy in my country started to go backwards (thanks to president Chavez). After that I decided to go back to dental school which I had to leave to take care of my mom, sister and grandma (because of my dad's death). Next in my wish list is a 680 ZX an a Dolby Unit NR-200. Regards Isy ----- Original Message ----- From: Kent Merideth To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 5:13 PM Subject: RE: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) Gra, When you say you hope the B215 "will provide you god service, too.", I noticed you used the lower case "g" instead of the upper case "G". Of course, this would NOT be a case of us highly proficient English speaking/writing people having our fingers not conveying what our brain is telling them. ;-P This repartee coming from one that has trouble with "of" and "off". Yes, the B215 is a great deck, especially if you are making a tape for someone not having a Nak deck. Kent >>> graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk 01/17/03 03:36PM >>> I'm ALMOST 48 (birthday next month, guys ... get buying those presents for me ...) and live near Liverpool in the UK. I started with cassette way back 29 years ago when I bought a Sony unit that packed it's own amplifier and speakers. I've still got it ... for old times sake, not to use. I upgraded to a Aiwa AD1800 (top of the range in the UK at the time I bought it) about 3 years later, which gave good service for a number of years and still doesn't sound too bad. At that time I also heard about Nakamichi ... but they were way out of my price range. A couple or so years ago, I picked up a brand new Pioneer CTS830S @ half price. I know some of you aren't impressed by the Pioneer decks but this one does an excellent job in Dolby S and is brilliant at bringing life back into very old recordings. It will also play and record on tapes as long as C120 without any problems ... can't say that about a Nak! However ... I got my first Nak', a BX-1, courtesy of Stephen almost two years ago. A few months later, fortune smiled on me, I got a small windfall and acquired a ZX-9 from a fellow in Holland. Oh, that ZX-9 .... who needs Dolby S with one of these??? Last year I also bought a RX-505 on e-Bay. I've never touched, let alone heard it because it went straight to Stephen for servicing and repair and is now on sale on e-Bay. (Bidding is currently at the ridiculously low price of $375 ... I hope it goes higher than that!) I have also recently bought a ReVox B215 but have not yet received it - it's in transit from Paris. Luckily, there is a ReVox service engineer only an hour's drive from here, so I am hoping this deck will offer me god service, too. My next purchase ... I might be tempted by a CR7, for the azimuth adjust' playback, as an alternative to the Pioneer but, more likely, I think I may go for a HD recorder with built-in CD/R ... Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > The BlueSwapper > Sent: 17 January 2003 03:41 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Cc: blueswapper at angelfire.com > Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > > Dear NakTalk friends > > I'm pleased with the refreshing recent return to Nak related > topics, and I'm quite intrigued with the growing international > mix of the membership. Being a geographer and cartographer > during my early professional career (that was twenty years ago, > I'm now an information systems manager involved with geographic > information system & global positioning system technologies), I'd > like to gather information from NakTalkers to create a spatial > database of who you are, where you live, years you've collected > Nak gear, decks you possess, et cetera. With such a database of > information, I could then easily create a nice global map showing > where everyone resides in relation to each other. Selected > information could also be attributed to locations and names. And > from that a digital colored map image could then be created > shared between all participating NakTalkers. This might be a > fair amount of work for me, but let's see if there is interest > and usefulness for the membership. > > Haven't you occasionally wondered where someone who posted a > message lives in the world? Well, a global location map might be > a nice visual compliment to understanding where your NakTalk > friends are emailing us world-wide. I'm curious if others have > similar feelings about furthering global comradery and understanding. > > Interested in supporting and furthering my idea? I will wait for > your replies, directly to me or via NakTalk. > > Best regards, > > K.J. Bleus > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Give Peace A Chance!!! > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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Name: not available URL: From blueswapper at angelfire.com Sat Jan 18 13:48:23 2003 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 04:48:23 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) Message-ID: Several NakTalkers have responded to the global NakTalker's database & map idea, and I'm seeing enough support for the idea to feel that coordinating and building a database of info to create a global reference map is feasible, worthwhile, and will be useful to the NakTalk membership as we continue to communicate. Fear not, a caveat will be that privacy of individuals will remain absolutely secure, and personal details (email address, home address, phone number, etc) will not be stored or accessed through the database. I will begin to formulate a project plan in the near future. Anyone who wishes to participate should share their thoughts on NakTalk, and/or contact me directly. Let's see where this takes us..... Regards, K.J. Bleus --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper --------- Forwarded Message --------- DATE: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:40:55 From: "The BlueSwapper" To: naktalk at naks.com Cc:blueswapper at angelfire.com Dear NakTalk friends I'm pleased with the refreshing recent return to Nak related topics, and I'm quite intrigued with the growing international mix of the membership. Being a geographer and cartographer during my early professional career (that was twenty years ago, I'm now an information systems manager involved with geographic information system & global positioning system technologies), I'd like to gather information from NakTalkers to create a spatial database of who you are, where you live, years you've collected Nak gear, decks you possess, et cetera. With such a database of information, I could then easily create a nice global map showing where everyone resides in relation to each other. Selected information could also be attributed to locations and names. And from that a digital colored map image could then be created shared between all participating NakTalkers. This might be a fair amount of work for me, but let's see if there is interest and usefulness for the membership. Haven't you occasionally wondered where someone who posted a message lives in the world? Well, a global location map might be a nice visual compliment to understanding where your NakTalk friends are emailing us world-wide. I'm curious if others have similar feelings about furthering global comradery and understanding. Interested in supporting and furthering my idea? I will wait for your replies, directly to me or via NakTalk. Best regards, K.J. Bleus --- Help keep the blues alive! Give Peace A Chance!!! http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html --------- End Forwarded Message --------- ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus From blueswapper at angelfire.com Sat Jan 18 14:03:25 2003 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 05:03:25 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Nak Marathon Tape (Status - Jan 2003) Message-ID: I believe that Carlos is continuing work on the Marathon Tape music transposition to compact disc. From my last correspondence with Carlos, just before the holidays, my impression is that he has been exceptionally busy with professional work activities. Keep the faith about the Marathon Tape project, Carlos will get back to us when he has time to finish mastering the music segments and transposing that to digital format for duplication. When he is ready, plans for disc distribution and cost recovery will be communicated. We'll have closure on the Nak Marathon Tape project, in due time! Regards, K.J. Bleus --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus From ra.ah at rcn.com Sat Jan 18 16:00:01 2003 From: ra.ah at rcn.com (Ron) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 10:00:01 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: Message-ID: <3E296BF1.31A7C21@rcn.com> I hope you have already saved the data posted here in the past few days. -- Ron The BlueSwapper wrote: > > Several NakTalkers have responded to the global NakTalker's database & map idea, and I'm seeing enough support for the idea to feel that coordinating and building a database of info to create a global reference map is feasible, worthwhile, and will be useful to the NakTalk membership as we continue to communicate. > > Fear not, a caveat will be that privacy of individuals will remain absolutely secure, and personal details (email address, home address, phone number, etc) will not be stored or accessed through the database. > > I will begin to formulate a project plan in the near future. Anyone who wishes to participate should share their thoughts on NakTalk, and/or contact me directly. Let's see where this takes us..... > > Regards, > > K.J. Bleus > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > > --------- Forwarded Message --------- > > DATE: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:40:55 > From: "The BlueSwapper" > To: naktalk at naks.com > Cc:blueswapper at angelfire.com > Dear NakTalk friends > > I'm pleased with the refreshing recent return to Nak related topics, and I'm quite intrigued with the growing international mix of the membership. Being a geographer and cartographer during my early professional career (that was twenty years ago, I'm now an information systems manager involved with geographic information system & global positioning system technologies), I'd like to gather information from NakTalkers to create a spatial database of who you are, where you live, years you've collected Nak gear, decks you possess, et cetera. With such a database of information, I could then easily create a nice global map showing where everyone resides in relation to each other. Selected information could also be attributed to locations and names. And from that a digital colored map image could then be created shared between all participating NakTalkers. This might be a fair amount of work for me, but let's see if there is interest and usefulness for the membership. > > Haven't you occasionally wondered where someone who posted a message lives in the world? Well, a global location map might be a nice visual compliment to understanding where your NakTalk friends are emailing us world-wide. I'm curious if others have similar feelings about furthering global comradery and understanding. > > Interested in supporting and furthering my idea? I will wait for your replies, directly to me or via NakTalk. > > Best regards, > > K.J. Bleus > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Give Peace A Chance!!! > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html > > --------- End Forwarded Message --------- > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From jmtooley at ce.net Sat Jan 18 16:59:06 2003 From: jmtooley at ce.net (John M. Tooley) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 10:59:06 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Nak Marathon Tape (Status - Jan 2003) References: Message-ID: <006801c2bf0a$880e9370$18106343@johnnyrotten> Wonderful Bleus, thank you. It's always good to hear that somebody's absence is because of work issues and not bad health or family problems. Ain't it great, Naktalk is alive and kicking. John T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "The BlueSwapper" To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 8:03 AM Subject: [naktalk] Nak Marathon Tape (Status - Jan 2003) > I believe that Carlos is continuing work on the Marathon Tape music transposition to compact disc. From my last correspondence with Carlos, just before the holidays, my impression is that he has been exceptionally busy with professional work activities. > > Keep the faith about the Marathon Tape project, Carlos will get back to us when he has time to finish mastering the music segments and transposing that to digital format for duplication. When he is ready, plans for disc distribution and cost recovery will be communicated. > > We'll have closure on the Nak Marathon Tape project, in due time! > > Regards, > > K.J. Bleus > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > > From jmtooley at ce.net Sat Jan 18 17:15:26 2003 From: jmtooley at ce.net (John M. Tooley) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 11:15:26 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] John T References: <000401c2be83$a1dcf1c0$7beb193e@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <008501c2bf0c$d000a090$18106343@johnnyrotten> Great Graham, you have people chasing it. I'm very tempted to do the same with my ZXL that Stephen has. Where is your B215, on a slow boat to China? How come so long to cross that small pond between Froggy land and you? My sister just bought a house in the Bordeaux area of France so is now back in Netley Abbey, on Southampton Water selling her house and saying goodbye to the UK. I'm looking at this beauty but need you to tell me to back off. I already have mint ReVox 760 and Yamaha CT-7000 Tuners!!! This along with a ReVox B780 Receiver at work http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3000587565 Cheers cock, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Nelson" To: Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:53 PM Subject: [naktalk] John T > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4784&item=3000416079& > rd=1 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > John M. Tooley > > Sent: 17 January 2003 22:44 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > > > > > hypertext address please! > > > > John T. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Graham Nelson" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 3:23 PM > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > > > > > > Yep, I've got a nice RX-505 on e-bay right now ... :o) > > > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > > From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Sat Jan 18 17:28:07 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 23:28:07 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] Need SR4A schematic References: <005f01c2be9a$b4a1aa50$0200a8c0@downstairs> Message-ID: <001c01c2bf0e$95a597a0$e7299bca@smarzuki> Hi Jim, do you need the power supply schematics ? Give me some time and i'll scan it for you. Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Collins To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 9:38 AM Subject: [naktalk] Need SR4A schematic Is there anyone of you who could help me with a partial schematic for a Nakamichi SR4A receiver ? Please email me directly if you do. Thanks, JC Hit by lightning and need a few power supply parts. From jmtooley at ce.net Sat Jan 18 17:45:41 2003 From: jmtooley at ce.net (John M. Tooley) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 11:45:41 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: <001801c2be68$23a6b7c0$01e3193e@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <00a601c2bf11$09951670$18106343@johnnyrotten> You get that ReVox B215 tuned, my two via Stephen are priceless, and you will be weaned away from your Nak. habits ;-) My Nak. 700 II, after Stephen breathed on it, sounded wonderful but left me wondering how long that sound would last. The Naks. are wonderful but I feel pushing their design to its limits with belts that must need attention at regular intervals, etc. etc. whereas the B215 has three motors doing everything and comes across as radio station proof just like their A77 & B77 reel machines. Sorry, Swiss engineering wins again over the Japanese effort. Now I'll go and hide before rocks start coming my way! ;-) John T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Nelson" To: Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 3:36 PM Subject: RE: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > I'm ALMOST 48 (birthday next month, guys ... get buying those presents for > me ...) and live near Liverpool in the UK. I started with cassette way back > 29 years ago when I bought a Sony unit that packed it's own amplifier and > speakers. I've still got it ... for old times sake, not to use. I upgraded > to a Aiwa AD1800 (top of the range in the UK at the time I bought it) about > 3 years later, which gave good service for a number of years and still > doesn't sound too bad. At that time I also heard about Nakamichi ... but > they were way out of my price range. > > A couple or so years ago, I picked up a brand new Pioneer CTS830S @ half > price. I know some of you aren't impressed by the Pioneer decks but this > one does an excellent job in Dolby S and is brilliant at bringing life back > into very old recordings. It will also play and record on tapes as long as > C120 without any problems ... can't say that about a Nak! However ... > > I got my first Nak', a BX-1, courtesy of Stephen almost two years ago. A > few months later, fortune smiled on me, I got a small windfall and acquired > a ZX-9 from a fellow in Holland. Oh, that ZX-9 .... who needs Dolby S with > one of these??? Last year I also bought a RX-505 on e-Bay. I've never > touched, let alone heard it because it went straight to Stephen for > servicing and repair and is now on sale on e-Bay. (Bidding is currently at > the ridiculously low price of $375 ... I hope it goes higher than that!) > > I have also recently bought a ReVox B215 but have not yet received it - it's > in transit from Paris. Luckily, there is a ReVox service engineer only an > hour's drive from here, so I am hoping this deck will offer me god service, > too. > > My next purchase ... I might be tempted by a CR7, for the azimuth adjust' > playback, as an alternative to the Pioneer but, more likely, I think I may > go for a HD recorder with built-in CD/R ... > > Gra' > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > The BlueSwapper > > Sent: 17 January 2003 03:41 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Cc: blueswapper at angelfire.com > > Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > > > > > Dear NakTalk friends > > > > I'm pleased with the refreshing recent return to Nak related > > topics, and I'm quite intrigued with the growing international > > mix of the membership. Being a geographer and cartographer > > during my early professional career (that was twenty years ago, > > I'm now an information systems manager involved with geographic > > information system & global positioning system technologies), I'd > > like to gather information from NakTalkers to create a spatial > > database of who you are, where you live, years you've collected > > Nak gear, decks you possess, et cetera. With such a database of > > information, I could then easily create a nice global map showing > > where everyone resides in relation to each other. Selected > > information could also be attributed to locations and names. And > > from that a digital colored map image could then be created > > shared between all participating NakTalkers. This might be a > > fair amount of work for me, but let's see if there is interest > > and usefulness for the membership. > > > > Haven't you occasionally wondered where someone who posted a > > message lives in the world? Well, a global location map might be > > a nice visual compliment to understanding where your NakTalk > > friends are emailing us world-wide. I'm curious if others have > > similar feelings about furthering global comradery and understanding. > > > > Interested in supporting and furthering my idea? I will wait for > > your replies, directly to me or via NakTalk. > > > > Best regards, > > > > K.J. Bleus > > > > --- > > Help keep the blues alive! Give Peace A Chance!!! > > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html > > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > > Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > > --------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > > --------========= > > > > --- > > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > > From jmtooley at ce.net Sat Jan 18 17:48:30 2003 From: jmtooley at ce.net (John M. Tooley) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 11:48:30 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers References: Message-ID: <00ad01c2bf11$6e9716e0$18106343@johnnyrotten> I'm sure that Jeff does excellent work but hope you are sitting down when you get the total bill. John T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Kent" To: Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 4:20 PM Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers > Hi all, > > I live in the East Bay near San Francisco. I want to thank all of the more knowledgable souls who > contribute to the dialog. I have a Dragon and CR-7a, both fairly recently acquired due to the > failure of an old Teac model I had used for years (I had a Dual before that). I had always admired > Naks, and became quite jealous of my son who recieved one as a gift from a friend who had tired of > it.....yes really!.... a number of years ago. Deciding to go for the best, and hoping that the > auto-azimuth capabilities of the Dragon would make it more capable of playing my old tapes, I > gathered my nerve and went shopping on Ebay. The Dragon is in for an overhaul at ESL, and Jeff > there has been very gracious. When it returns, the CR7a will go in. > > Wish I could help with some advice, but I am just learning the ins and outs of Naks, and, as I said, > I am very gratefull to all of you for your open and free advice. > > R Kent > S.F. Bay Area > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > > From jmtooley at ce.net Sat Jan 18 17:54:51 2003 From: jmtooley at ce.net (John M. Tooley) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 11:54:51 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: <00f801c2be50$4eb1c710$f9106343@johnnyrotten> <01ec01c2be5a$84e35420$9e3cbbd4@raveneql1a1eu0> Message-ID: <00bd01c2bf12$51b4dfc0$18106343@johnnyrotten> Fahrenheit my friend, it's now 16 F., -9 C. John T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maurits" To: Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John M. Tooley" > To: > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:46 PM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > > > Mr. Bleus, > > > > Any word on the marathon cassette / CD compilation from Carlos? I hope > > everything is okay with him as I haven't seen him surface in ages. > > > > Carlos, where are you? You at least must be warmer there in PR than here > in > > mainland US. We are expecting 11 balmy degrees tonight! > > -/or + ? The Amsterdam-guy named Fahrenheit? I't's now + five degrees > Celcius over here. > The airbase nearby has a lot of activity. They bring support for F-16 's > to Afghanistan. The Germans and Dutch pilots do a lot air defence over > there. I think it's better to get Karadidz, Mladic and Osama ;-) > Sorry for the political issue. I don't do it again. > > > Maurits > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > > From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sat Jan 18 18:58:27 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 17:58:27 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) In-Reply-To: <00a601c2bf11$09951670$18106343@johnnyrotten> Message-ID: <000f01c2bf1b$33b33540$916787d9@oemcomputer> John T said: > The Naks. are wonderful but I feel pushing their design to its > limits with belts that must need attention at regular intervals, etc. etc. > whereas the B215 has three motors doing everything and comes > across as radio > station proof just like their A77 & B77 reel machines. Sorry, Swiss > engineering wins again over the Japanese effort. Now I'll go and > hide before > rocks start coming my way! ;-) > > Ha! Ha! Well, as you know, I'm the one who raves about the old Lenco turntables and they're a Swiss as Cuckoo clocks! G > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 From jmtooley at ce.net Sat Jan 18 20:01:03 2003 From: jmtooley at ce.net (John M. Tooley) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:01:03 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: <000f01c2bf1b$33b33540$916787d9@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <03ae01c2bf23$f6ce9710$18106343@johnnyrotten> Yes, good old Lenco Goldring TT's, and cartridges . I remember seeing one with their test tube looking record cleaner spinning an album at the Hi-Fi Show at the Russell Hotel, London many years ago. Also same day being very impressed listening to Lowther speakers. John T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Nelson" To: Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 12:58 PM Subject: RE: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > > John T said: > > > The Naks. are wonderful but I feel pushing their design to its > > limits with belts that must need attention at regular intervals, etc. etc. > > whereas the B215 has three motors doing everything and comes > > across as radio > > station proof just like their A77 & B77 reel machines. Sorry, Swiss > > engineering wins again over the Japanese effort. Now I'll go and > > hide before > > rocks start coming my way! ;-) > > > > > Ha! Ha! Well, as you know, I'm the one who raves about the old Lenco > turntables and they're a Swiss as Cuckoo clocks! > > G > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > > From jmtooley at ce.net Sat Jan 18 20:50:27 2003 From: jmtooley at ce.net (John M. Tooley) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:50:27 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC Message-ID: <03db01c2bf2a$d9cd3070$18106343@johnnyrotten> All Microsoft Internet Explorer junkies. Please remind me how to get folders in alphabetical order in Favorites. John T. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From g_valkov at hotmail.com Sat Jan 18 20:50:36 2003 From: g_valkov at hotmail.com (George Valkov) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 21:50:36 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] B215 Message-ID: I can only mention the following : B215, prod. 1985, heavy use, judging by the cosmetic condition of cassette well and buttons when I got it 2 years ago. Minor tune-up, a couple of new buttons and a new coverplate for the bottom front part of the cassette well (a doddle to get them from ReVox anywhere in the world, Germany in my case): result - terrific performance way beyond spec (20 Hz - 24 kHz on TDK MA at +1/-2 dB, etc.). My technician gave it back to me willing to bet his 582 that it would go for at least another 20 years without re-visiting him. Last remark : tapes made on the B215 sound better on CR7 (tuned and calibrated properly, albeit not "sanktified") than its own. I still have my Deck 1, though I don't bother recording on it. George ----Original Message Follows---- From: "John M. Tooley" Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com To: Subject: Re: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 11:45:41 -0500 You get that ReVox B215 tuned, my two via Stephen are priceless, and you will be weaned away from your Nak. habits ;-) My Nak. 700 II, after Stephen breathed on it, sounded wonderful but left me wondering how long that sound would last. The Naks. are wonderful but I feel pushing their design to its limits with belts that must need attention at regular intervals, etc. etc. whereas the B215 has three motors doing everything and comes across as radio station proof just like their A77 & B77 reel machines. Sorry, Swiss engineering wins again over the Japanese effort. Now I'll go and hide before rocks start coming my way! ;-) John T. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From jmtooley at ce.net Sat Jan 18 21:16:06 2003 From: jmtooley at ce.net (John M. Tooley) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:16:06 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] B215 References: Message-ID: <03f001c2bf2e$6f0bf290$18106343@johnnyrotten> Confirmed, thank you. A wonderful tool! I bought 5 at one time from a high grade duplicator and had them all shipped to Stephen, but that's another story ;-) John T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Valkov" To: Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] B215 > I can only mention the following : B215, prod. 1985, heavy use, judging by > the cosmetic condition of cassette well and buttons when I got it 2 years > ago. Minor tune-up, a couple of new buttons and a new coverplate for the > bottom front part of the cassette well (a doddle to get them from ReVox > anywhere in the world, Germany in my case): result - terrific performance > way beyond spec (20 Hz - 24 kHz on TDK MA at +1/-2 dB, etc.). My technician > gave it back to me willing to bet his 582 that it would go for at least > another 20 years without re-visiting him. > > Last remark : tapes made on the B215 sound better on CR7 (tuned and > calibrated properly, albeit not "sanktified") than its own. > > I still have my Deck 1, though I don't bother recording on it. > > George > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "John M. Tooley" > Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com > To: > Subject: Re: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 11:45:41 -0500 > > You get that ReVox B215 tuned, my two via Stephen are priceless, and you > will be weaned away from your Nak. habits ;-) My Nak. 700 II, after Stephen > breathed on it, sounded wonderful but left me wondering how long that sound > would last. The Naks. are wonderful but I feel pushing their design to its > limits with belts that must need attention at regular intervals, etc. etc. > whereas the B215 has three motors doing everything and comes across as radio > station proof just like their A77 & B77 reel machines. Sorry, Swiss > engineering wins again over the Japanese effort. Now I'll go and hide before > rocks start coming my way! ;-) > > John T. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > > From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Sat Jan 18 21:04:44 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 03:04:44 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] John T - off topic again References: <000401c2be83$a1dcf1c0$7beb193e@oemcomputer> <008501c2bf0c$d000a090$18106343@johnnyrotten> Message-ID: <000001c2bf31$6692e1c0$03299bca@smarzuki> Curiously, tuner info http://www.fmtunerinfo.com/shootouts.html ranked KT917 no 6, below one Luxman and Technics 9038 ... with Naim, MR78 and Fanfare ranked way down below !! Tandberg, Revox, Yamaha and Magnum also didn't fare well, below another Technics and 2 Pioneers. How could that be ? Very strange. John, how does your CT700 compared to the ReVox on sound quality ? Any other tuner that you have compared before ? Best regards, Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: John M. Tooley To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 11:15 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] John T Great Graham, you have people chasing it. I'm very tempted to do the same with my ZXL that Stephen has. Where is your B215, on a slow boat to China? How come so long to cross that small pond between Froggy land and you? My sister just bought a house in the Bordeaux area of France so is now back in Netley Abbey, on Southampton Water selling her house and saying goodbye to the UK. I'm looking at this beauty but need you to tell me to back off. I already have mint ReVox 760 and Yamaha CT-7000 Tuners!!! This along with a ReVox B780 Receiver at work http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3000587565 Cheers cock, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Nelson" graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Sat Jan 18 21:08:42 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 03:08:42 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] OT: rubber reconditioner References: <005a01c2be41$072349a0$b51a9bca@smarzuki> <00ec01c2be4f$6c29d590$f9106343@johnnyrotten> <000d01c2be51$b06fa390$8075059a@desktop> Message-ID: <000101c2bf31$67fc83e0$03299bca@smarzuki> Thank you Roland and John for your suggestion and info. I have contacted several sites that show B&O belt but most of them were either already out of stock or prohibitively expensive. Anyway, I might be able to get one from Jeff. Pushing the OT further: any Yes / ELP fans on naktalk ? I'm enjoying old Yes 'tales of topographic ocean' record, and just bought Works Live cd ... but how come 'welcome back my friend' sounds terrible on both vinyl and cd ? Best regards, Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: Roland Alford To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 12:55 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] OT: rubber reconditioner Salim, Check out these two sites. If they don't ship direct, I'm sure one of our boys in the good ol' US of A wouldn't mind helping out in ordering it and shipping it to you. I wouldn't waste time with brittle rubber if fresh stuff is available. Perhaps get two and seal one in plastic for the future since they are getting rare I understand. --Roland http://www.19art.net/music/lp/belts.htm http://www.turntablebelts.com/bang.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: John M. Tooley To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] OT: rubber reconditioner I think I would email B&O in Denmark who hopefully could suggest some good soul in US who might still have some. John T. From wheijke at xs4all.nl Sat Jan 18 21:40:26 2003 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 21:40:26 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] calibrating a 1000 Message-ID: <3E29BBBA.E840AAF8@xs4all.nl> Hi Everyone! Already some time ago i aquired a Nakamichi 1000, it crossed my path (like they all do...) and i couldn't resist to have one, since my 1000ZXL keeps giving me so many good tapes! But the deck seems to be in pretty good condition cosmetically and technically also, if you thinks of it's age, you could get exited ;-) Now i discovered that it didn't calibrate good and also recording is not working properly. So i opened the case and found it looked quite similar to the 1000ZXL and 700ZXE/L models also having the un/pluggable circuitboards.. a bit like pc's have these days.. So i took out all boards and conenctors, cleaned them and now i can do some recording again and also simple calibration.... BTW, i notice that on all the Naks i have, recording/calibrating is the part that fails most of the time, it seems to me that this is the weak point they all have. But now i want to go through some basic internal and external calibration, so adjusting the bias and levels and also 'tone level' on the back... The funny thing is that the 400hz doesn't measure eaqually on both channels in 'source' (also on the output).. This deck will not be one of my serious recording decks, but it would be nice if it could make a resonably good tape... So my question is if anyone knows what procedure to take and has done this also on this model, or has a copy of the service manual with the procedures to follow... Thanks! Wouter From timbarrett at cox.net Sat Jan 18 22:52:09 2003 From: timbarrett at cox.net (timbarrett at cox.net) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 16:52:09 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] OT: Yes / ELP In-Reply-To: <000101c2bf31$67fc83e0$03299bca@smarzuki> Message-ID: <3E298639.26053.1E0FF4C@localhost> Hi Salim- Another ELP fan over here ... it's not just 'welcome back my friends', but many of their recordings seem to suffer from lack of quality, specially the early albums, which is unfortunate. Are you familiar with the German group Triumvirate? They were contemporary with ELP. Look for the 'Illusions', 'old loves', or 'spartacus' albums. Cheers, Tim B On 19 Jan 2003 at 3:08, Salim Marzuki wrote: > > Thank you Roland and John for your suggestion and info. I have > contacted several sites that show B&O belt but most of them were > either already out of stock or prohibitively expensive. Anyway, I > might be able to get one from Jeff. > > Pushing the OT further: any Yes / ELP fans on naktalk ? I'm enjoying > old Yes 'tales of topographic ocean' record, and just bought Works > Live cd ... but how come 'welcome back my friend' sounds terrible on > both vinyl and cd ? > > Best regards, > Salim SM > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roland Alford > To: naktalk at naks.com > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 12:55 AM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] OT: rubber reconditioner > > > Salim, > > Check out these two sites. If they don't ship direct, I'm sure one of > our boys in the good ol' US of A wouldn't mind helping out in ordering > it and shipping it to you. > > I wouldn't waste time with brittle rubber if fresh stuff is available. > > Perhaps get two and seal one in plastic for the future since they are > getting rare I understand. > > --Roland > > http://www.19art.net/music/lp/belts.htm > > http://www.turntablebelts.com/bang.htm > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John M. Tooley > To: naktalk at naks.com > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:39 AM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] OT: rubber reconditioner > > > I think I would email B&O in Denmark who hopefully could suggest some > good soul in US who might still have some. > > John T. > > > ========-------------------------------------------------------------- > ----========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========-------------------------------------------------------------- > ----========= From ra.ah at rcn.com Sat Jan 18 23:04:29 2003 From: ra.ah at rcn.com (Ron) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 17:04:29 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC References: <03db01c2bf2a$d9cd3070$18106343@johnnyrotten> Message-ID: <3E29CF6D.FC4DBE87@rcn.com> > All Microsoft Internet Explorer junkies. Please remind me how to get folders in alphabetical order > in Favorites. > > John T. Actually, I use Netscape most of the time. I don't think Explorer will sort favorites for you. You can do it manually, easily enough -- just open the favorites window and drag any of them to wherever you want it. This also works for moving them between folders. -- Ron From blueswapper at angelfire.com Sat Jan 18 23:17:50 2003 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:17:50 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) Message-ID: Ron, others..... No prob, I've got copies of all the recent Nak Digests. In fact, I've started copying the messages with relevant info into one doc file as a preliminary preparation. Bleus --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Ron wrote: I hope you have already saved the data posted here in the past few days. -- Ron The BlueSwapper wrote: > > Several NakTalkers have responded to the global NakTalker's database & map idea, and I'm seeing enough support for the idea to feel that coordinating and building a database of info to create a global reference map is feasible, worthwhile, and will be useful to the NakTalk membership as we continue to communicate. > > Fear not, a caveat will be that privacy of individuals will remain absolutely secure, and personal details (email address, home address, phone number, etc) will not be stored or accessed through the database. > > I will begin to formulate a project plan in the near future. Anyone who wishes to participate should share their thoughts on NakTalk, and/or contact me directly. Let's see where this takes us..... > > Regards, > > K.J. Bleus > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > > --------- Forwarded Message --------- > ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus From roleo at telus.net Sat Jan 18 23:20:39 2003 From: roleo at telus.net (Roland Alford) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:20:39 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC References: <03db01c2bf2a$d9cd3070$18106343@johnnyrotten> <3E29CF6D.FC4DBE87@rcn.com> Message-ID: <004701c2bf3f$d52a28b0$8075059a@desktop> Yup, it does do it automatically, do this: At the top of your IE screen LEFT click on FAVORITES As the menu pops down, point you mouse at one of your favorite sites and RIGHT CLICK Your menu choices will include SORT BY NAME LEFT CLICK on that and your done. --Roland (aka IE Junkie) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron" To: Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC > > > All Microsoft Internet Explorer junkies. Please remind me how to get folders in alphabetical order > in Favorites. > > > > John T. > > Actually, I use Netscape most of the time. > > I don't think Explorer will sort favorites for you. You can do it > manually, easily enough -- just open the favorites window and drag > any of them to wherever you want it. This also works for moving > them between folders. > > -- Ron > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > From blueswapper at angelfire.com Sat Jan 18 23:25:10 2003 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:25:10 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) Message-ID: Isy! Great to have you joining in on the new project!!! So, what are your impressions of the Coltrane & Davis music I recorded for you over the holidays? Does the cassette playback crisply in your beloved Nak decks?? Which deck brings the best audio sound reproduction??? I'll be in-touch directly soon, further discussion on Nak peripheral gear. Best regards, Bleus --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Isy Fidelman wrote: Hi fellows!!! I totally love the idea....my name is Isy Fidelman, I am 29 years old, in 6 months I'll be a dentist and I started to get into this when I was 9 years old and my father bought a 1000ZXL. After his death almost 7 years ago, I inherited the 1000ZXL and since then I added a LX-5 which I love, a CR-7, a Dragon and a 1000ZXL Limited. Used to work with my fahter at a pro audio store we used to have but I sold it 2 years ago when the economy in my country started to go backwards (thanks to president Chavez). After that I decided to go back to dental school which I had to leave to take care of my mom, sister and grandma (because of my dad's death). Next in my wish list is a 680 ZX an a Dolby Unit NR-200. Regards Isy ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus From jmtooley at ce.net Sat Jan 18 23:41:47 2003 From: jmtooley at ce.net (John M. Tooley) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 17:41:47 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC References: <03db01c2bf2a$d9cd3070$18106343@johnnyrotten> <3E29CF6D.FC4DBE87@rcn.com> <004701c2bf3f$d52a28b0$8075059a@desktop> Message-ID: <041601c2bf42$c8b33650$18106343@johnnyrotten> I don't see ''SORT BY NAME'' using Windows XP. John T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roland Alford" To: Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC > Yup, it does do it automatically, do this: > > At the top of your IE screen LEFT click on FAVORITES > > As the menu pops down, point you mouse at one of your favorite sites and > RIGHT CLICK > > Your menu choices will include SORT BY NAME > > LEFT CLICK on that and your done. > > --Roland (aka IE Junkie) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 2:04 PM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC > > > > > > > All Microsoft Internet Explorer junkies. Please remind me how to get > folders in alphabetical order > in Favorites. > > > > > > John T. > > > > Actually, I use Netscape most of the time. > > > > I don't think Explorer will sort favorites for you. You can do it > > manually, easily enough -- just open the favorites window and drag > > any of them to wherever you want it. This also works for moving > > them between folders. > > > > -- Ron > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > > From roleo at telus.net Sat Jan 18 23:50:39 2003 From: roleo at telus.net (Roland Alford) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:50:39 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC References: <03db01c2bf2a$d9cd3070$18106343@johnnyrotten> <3E29CF6D.FC4DBE87@rcn.com> <004701c2bf3f$d52a28b0$8075059a@desktop> <041601c2bf42$c8b33650$18106343@johnnyrotten> Message-ID: <005701c2bf44$060c0e90$8075059a@desktop> I'm using XP too (professional). It should be right above properties... ----- Original Message ----- From: "John M. Tooley" To: Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC > I don't see ''SORT BY NAME'' using Windows XP. > > John T. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roland Alford" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 5:20 PM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC > > > > Yup, it does do it automatically, do this: > > > > At the top of your IE screen LEFT click on FAVORITES > > > > As the menu pops down, point you mouse at one of your favorite sites and > > RIGHT CLICK > > > > Your menu choices will include SORT BY NAME > > > > LEFT CLICK on that and your done. > > > > --Roland (aka IE Junkie) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ron" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 2:04 PM > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC > > > > > > > > > > > All Microsoft Internet Explorer junkies. Please remind me how to get > > folders in alphabetical order > in Favorites. > > > > > > > > John T. > > > > > > Actually, I use Netscape most of the time. > > > > > > I don't think Explorer will sort favorites for you. You can do it > > > manually, easily enough -- just open the favorites window and drag > > > any of them to wherever you want it. This also works for moving > > > them between folders. > > > > > > -- Ron > > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > To maintain your account please go here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > From hisself at ol-jim.com Sun Jan 19 00:21:42 2003 From: hisself at ol-jim.com (Ol' Jim, hisself) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 18:21:42 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) In-Reply-To: <001501c2be66$4c30bf80$01e3193e@oemcomputer> References: <3E27DDEF.26615.1D4AB52A@localhost> Message-ID: <3E299B36.12028.5FF4E48@localhost> > They wouldn't dare steal from you, Jim - you're ARMED!! :o) . . . and dangerous!!! Ol' Jim, hisself Enjoyin' the Space Coast of Florida hisself at ol-jim.com http://www.ol-jim.com An armed society is a polite society. From fidelman at telcel.net.ve Sun Jan 19 00:24:43 2003 From: fidelman at telcel.net.ve (Isy Fidelman) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 19:24:43 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: Message-ID: <002c01c2bf48$cbf6e0e0$d66723c8@g8nsv> It is awesome!!!! I have heard it many times in different Naks to see if there is any difference. I love the way it sounds on my Dragon and my LX-5....however the sound on the CR-7 is kind of "dark"; maybe it's time to check the CR-7....I palyed other tapes and they all sounded "dark" (to much low frequency)... But the selection you made is the one I would have made.... Blue Train rocks!!!! Thanks Mr. Bleus!!!! By the way...how is the MX-100??? Regards Isy ----- Original Message ----- From: "The BlueSwapper" To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 6:25 PM Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) > Isy! Great to have you joining in on the new project!!! > > So, what are your impressions of the Coltrane & Davis music I recorded for you over the holidays? Does the cassette playback crisply in your beloved Nak decks?? Which deck brings the best audio sound reproduction??? I'll be in-touch directly soon, further discussion on Nak peripheral gear. > > Best regards, > > Bleus > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > Isy Fidelman wrote: > > Hi fellows!!! > I totally love the idea....my name is Isy Fidelman, I am 29 years old, in 6 months I'll be a dentist and I started to get into this when I was 9 years old and my father bought a 1000ZXL. > After his death almost 7 years ago, I inherited the 1000ZXL and since then I added a LX-5 which I love, a CR-7, a Dragon and a 1000ZXL Limited. > Used to work with my fahter at a pro audio store we used to have but I sold it 2 years ago when the economy in my country started to go backwards (thanks to president Chavez). After that I decided to go back to dental school which I had to leave to take care of my mom, sister and grandma (because of my dad's death). > Next in my wish list is a 680 ZX an a Dolby Unit NR-200. > Regards > > Isy > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sun Jan 19 00:43:51 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 23:43:51 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] B215 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000801c2bf4b$7464a300$e0b0193e@oemcomputer> George said: > > Last remark : tapes made on the B215 sound better on CR7 (tuned and > calibrated properly, albeit not "sanktified") than its own. > > Interesting. Carlos always said recordings made on his B215 sounded better when replayed on his Dragon. It'll be interesting to find out (as I will soon) if they also sound better on a ZX-9! Gra' > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 From jmtooley at ce.net Sun Jan 19 01:26:53 2003 From: jmtooley at ce.net (John M. Tooley) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 19:26:53 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC References: <03db01c2bf2a$d9cd3070$18106343@johnnyrotten> <3E29CF6D.FC4DBE87@rcn.com> <004701c2bf3f$d52a28b0$8075059a@desktop> <041601c2bf42$c8b33650$18106343@johnnyrotten> <005701c2bf44$060c0e90$8075059a@desktop> Message-ID: <043601c2bf51$7c2c4f10$18106343@johnnyrotten> I just have Rename and Delete above Properties. Me also, XP Pro and SP1. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roland Alford" To: Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC > I'm using XP too (professional). It should be right above properties... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John M. Tooley" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 2:41 PM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC > > > > I don't see ''SORT BY NAME'' using Windows XP. > > > > John T. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Roland Alford" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 5:20 PM > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC > > > > > > > Yup, it does do it automatically, do this: > > > > > > At the top of your IE screen LEFT click on FAVORITES > > > > > > As the menu pops down, point you mouse at one of your favorite sites and > > > RIGHT CLICK > > > > > > Your menu choices will include SORT BY NAME > > > > > > LEFT CLICK on that and your done. > > > > > > --Roland (aka IE Junkie) > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Ron" > > > To: > > > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 2:04 PM > > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All Microsoft Internet Explorer junkies. Please remind me how to get > > > folders in alphabetical order > in Favorites. > > > > > > > > > > John T. > > > > > > > > Actually, I use Netscape most of the time. > > > > > > > > I don't think Explorer will sort favorites for you. You can do it > > > > manually, easily enough -- just open the favorites window and drag > > > > any of them to wherever you want it. This also works for moving > > > > them between folders. > > > > > > > > -- Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > > ======= > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > To maintain your account please go here: > > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > > ======= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > To maintain your account please go here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > From jmtooley at ce.net Sun Jan 19 01:30:13 2003 From: jmtooley at ce.net (John M. Tooley) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 19:30:13 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC References: <03db01c2bf2a$d9cd3070$18106343@johnnyrotten> <3E29CF6D.FC4DBE87@rcn.com> <004701c2bf3f$d52a28b0$8075059a@desktop> <041601c2bf42$c8b33650$18106343@johnnyrotten> <005701c2bf44$060c0e90$8075059a@desktop> Message-ID: <043a01c2bf51$ee967850$18106343@johnnyrotten> Dummy me! I was right clicking on Favorites Icon not at top of IE as you told me. Works great, many thanks. John T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roland Alford" To: Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC > I'm using XP too (professional). It should be right above properties... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John M. Tooley" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 2:41 PM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC > > > > I don't see ''SORT BY NAME'' using Windows XP. > > > > John T. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Roland Alford" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 5:20 PM > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC > > > > > > > Yup, it does do it automatically, do this: > > > > > > At the top of your IE screen LEFT click on FAVORITES > > > > > > As the menu pops down, point you mouse at one of your favorite sites and > > > RIGHT CLICK > > > > > > Your menu choices will include SORT BY NAME > > > > > > LEFT CLICK on that and your done. > > > > > > --Roland (aka IE Junkie) > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Ron" > > > To: > > > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 2:04 PM > > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All Microsoft Internet Explorer junkies. Please remind me how to get > > > folders in alphabetical order > in Favorites. > > > > > > > > > > John T. > > > > > > > > Actually, I use Netscape most of the time. > > > > > > > > I don't think Explorer will sort favorites for you. You can do it > > > > manually, easily enough -- just open the favorites window and drag > > > > any of them to wherever you want it. This also works for moving > > > > them between folders. > > > > > > > > -- Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > > ======= > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > To maintain your account please go here: > > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > > ======= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > To maintain your account please go here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > From roleo at telus.net Sun Jan 19 05:11:04 2003 From: roleo at telus.net (Roland Alford) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 20:11:04 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: Message-ID: <001901c2bf70$c9103480$8075059a@desktop> Time to add mine... Roland Alford - West Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Cassette Tape Decks: Nakamichi Dragon; Nakamichi 680ZX; Nakamichi 550; SONY WM-D3 Pro Walkman. Reel to Reel: TEAC X-2000Rbl; Revox B-77 II. Other Recorder: TASCAM CDRW-2000 Pro CD Recorder Been an audio enthusiast since the first time I heard a real stereo in 1972 - age 10. (LP played was Audio Fidelity's Stereo Spectacular Demonstration & Sound Effects LP [DFS 7777]; Still own a good copy of the LP.) Got my first stereo in 1977 - began annoying my neighbors soon after... Bought my first Nakamichi (BX-100) in 1985 and was blown away by the difference over other decks. (BX-100 still going strong now belongs to a friend.) Never looked back! ----- Original Message ----- From: "The BlueSwapper" To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 2:17 PM Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > Ron, others..... > > No prob, I've got copies of all the recent Nak Digests. In fact, I've started copying the messages with relevant info into one doc file as a preliminary preparation. > > Bleus > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > Ron wrote: > I hope you have already saved the data posted here in the > past few days. > > -- Ron > > > The BlueSwapper wrote: > > > > Several NakTalkers have responded to the global NakTalker's database > & map idea, and I'm seeing enough support for the idea to feel that > coordinating and building a database of info to create a global > reference map is feasible, worthwhile, and will be useful to the > NakTalk membership as we continue to communicate. > > > > Fear not, a caveat will be that privacy of individuals will remain > absolutely secure, and personal details (email address, home address, > phone number, etc) will not be stored or accessed through the database. > > > > I will begin to formulate a project plan in the near future. > Anyone who wishes to participate should share their thoughts on > NakTalk, and/or contact me directly. Let's see where this takes us..... > > > > Regards, > > > > K.J. Bleus > > > > --- > > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > > > > --------- Forwarded Message --------- > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sun Jan 19 11:01:17 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:01:17 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC In-Reply-To: <043a01c2bf51$ee967850$18106343@johnnyrotten> Message-ID: <001401c2bfa1$b5d0e000$e0b0193e@oemcomputer> You're in good company, John - I was doing the same! Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > John M. Tooley > Sent: 19 January 2003 00:30 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC > > > Dummy me! I was right clicking on Favorites Icon not at top of IE as you > told me. Works great, many thanks. > > John T. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roland Alford" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 5:50 PM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC > > > > I'm using XP too (professional). It should be right above properties... > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John M. Tooley" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 2:41 PM > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC > > > > > > > I don't see ''SORT BY NAME'' using Windows XP. > > > > > > John T. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Roland Alford" > > > To: > > > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 5:20 PM > > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC > > > > > > > > > > Yup, it does do it automatically, do this: > > > > > > > > At the top of your IE screen LEFT click on FAVORITES > > > > > > > > As the menu pops down, point you mouse at one of your favorite sites > and > > > > RIGHT CLICK > > > > > > > > Your menu choices will include SORT BY NAME > > > > > > > > LEFT CLICK on that and your done. > > > > > > > > --Roland (aka IE Junkie) > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Ron" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 2:04 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] OFF TOPIC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All Microsoft Internet Explorer junkies. Please remind me how to > get > > > > folders in alphabetical order > in Favorites. > > > > > > > > > > > > John T. > > > > > > > > > > Actually, I use Netscape most of the time. > > > > > > > > > > I don't think Explorer will sort favorites for you. You can do it > > > > > manually, easily enough -- just open the favorites window and drag > > > > > any of them to wherever you want it. This also works for moving > > > > > them between folders. > > > > > > > > > > -- Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------== > > > > ======= > > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > > To maintain your account please go here: > > > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------== > > > > ======= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------== > > > ======= > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > To maintain your account please go here: > > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------== > > > ======= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------== > > ======= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > To maintain your account please go here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------== > > ======= > > > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------== > ======= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------== > ======= > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Wed Jan 15 23:11:59 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:11:59 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E53@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Guess what Salim, tweeking the height screw was the first thing I did on my BX300, I thought the screw was for alignment (silly me!) With the head height and azimuth alligned the RX 505 sounds brilliant (as do all other naks). István you are a very lucky man to have a wife that brought you a RX505, if my wife did that I'd quickly say to her "imposter! Who are you? My real wife wouldn't think of bringing such a device to me!" Regards Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: Salim Marzuki [mailto:smarzuki at indosat.net.id] Sent: Thursday, 16 January 2003 3:18 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning Hi István, You're lucky to have Nak tech center close to you. What country are you located ? Regarding those plastic screws ... can you believe that when i brought home my brand new CR4 some years ago, the first thing i did was "tweak" the height screw ??? Ouch !! I agree RX flipping mechanism is a real beauty to watch. Better get your 505 to that Nak shop to get the heads aligned & probably belts replaced. I imagine the 120us eq switch will be difficult to repair but should be easy to replace. Good luck ! Salim SM (Jakarta, Indonesia) ----- Original Message ----- From: Sándor István To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning Hello Salim, I too, learned that lesson that time I bought the deck (about 4 years ago)... Since then I made it tuned at a specialized service-shop, and since then of course I do not made any alignment with those large white plastic screws. Yesterday my wife brought me an RX505, and I found that its head is possibly misaligned. The ZX7 sounds better regerdless of original (pre-recorded) casette or not. I will have to bring it to the above-mentioned shop, and make it tuned. It is still like a toy for a child, I was really amazed of how fast it flips the cassette. I nearly laughed, it was so funny for me. Best regards, István ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Wed Jan 15 23:15:17 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:15:17 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E54@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> István, the eq button can be replaced because fixing it would be difficult and not worth it. Are you good at soldering? You may desolder the button out of the deck (should not be too difficult to get at) and bring it to your local electronics store and have them match it up. Regards Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: Sándor István [mailto:sandorpistike at hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 16 January 2003 1:48 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning Hello Kannan, unfortunately (?) I do not have neither a Dragon nor a CR7... I downloaded some brochures from the support-site, and it is really interesting ro read them through. I even found some functions of the ZX7 I did not heard about before. (Of course, these functions are not used often, but at least I know them already.) The just-acquied RX505 has a problem: the EQ120/70 button does not remains locked, it always get back to 120micros. Do you know if it is repairable, or shall I replace the switch? Best regards, and thank you all for the peace-minded conversation. István >From: kannan_s at vsnl.com >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning >Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:57:29 +0530 (IST) > >Hi István >many here in this forum would answer any simple basic question( I feel no >question is a stupid question as we learnt our lessons in school asking >questions as we do now as a professional)that you may have. So feel free to >ask as much as you desire and somebody here would definitely answer. >Coming to nak tape issue > >The tapes as such has no problems as they are long length flat rectangular >tapes meeting Standard cassette standard tolerences on width etc. However >Nak handling of the tape is special eliminating effects like excess >friction during tape movement over heads or tape skewing. > > Skewing is a result of Tape guide path on the two small ( imperfect) >rollars on bottom extremes of a cssette shell as well as shell casing. The >small guides on the tape path inside the shell also can cause skewing. > >The skewing can result in Play /record Azimuth problems (the tape can move >slightly off perpendicular to the Head gap). > >Dual capstan Nak eliminates thess rollar/ Shell related skewing as well as >pressure pad related scrape flutter.No wonder your ZX7 does not show >difference in record / replay performance on many tapes. > > I generally avoid using poor quality tapes ( India produced large number >of such tapes )on my Nak to reduce oxide flakedeposits on heads more than >these azimuth related issues. > >I would recommend you to download Nak brochures on Naks.com ftp server and >go through them. If you own Dragon or CR7 you would also find out that >Play azimuth adjsutment can make listening to tapes made on other machines >a real pleasure! >Kannan >sandorpistike at hotmail.com wrote >Hello Kannan, >thank you very much for your comprehensive answer. > >As far as I understood there is no way to prepare any deck to all possible >cases, because either the playback-head, either the record-head is fixed. > >As far as I know there are several type of cassettes, and often the tape >itself has some azimuth-fault (is it stupid?). >It means that you cannot play perfectly any azimuth-faulty tape even on a >well-aligned but fixed playback-head, or you cannot make any perfect record >on a well-aligned, but fixed record-head, if the tape itself has an >azimuth-error. > >(Sorry for the stupid questions, but nowadays I cannot find any valuable >literature about this sort of sound-reproduction.) > >If there are really tapes which have azimuth-error, can any of yours >recommend a good tape? Do you always use similar (of the same type) tapes, >or do you use different ones, depending on what you can buy? > >Of course, all these questions are just thinking about methods. I tried >many >sort of tapes with my ZX7, and I hardly found any I could not make a good >record on to. (Is it possible to understand? Please correct my English if >you find any big errors... I must learn.) >This is the most impressive of these machines: you can hardly hear the >difference between different sort of tapes if the calibration process is >completed well. This is the reason for having a Nak instead of having any >newer, but poorer (sometimes even more expensive) commerce-unit. > >Thank you for your answer! >Best regards, >István > > > > > > > >From: kannan_s at vsnl.com > >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com > >To: naktalk at naks.com > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning > >Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:09:47 +0530 (IST) > > > >Hi István > >Generally the position ( including Azimuth/ Zenith) of the two part >record > >and replay heads should be fixed as per Cassette Standard. A very small > >Azimuth adjustment of one of the head is possible in Nak as the other can > >be refernced to adjust the mobile head to correct position during record > >calibration process. > > > >Say record head Azimuth alone is adjusted by the motor in 68X series >Decks > >to get the Phase cherence between the channels. And this aligns the >record > >head in refernce to a fixed play head. > >Incase of Dragon; the playback Head azimuth is adjsuted ( while record >head > >position is fixed - pre-aligned at Factory as per service manual) and >same > >is the case with CR7 during record calibration process. > > > >I feel the later playback Azimuth adjustment facility has an additional > >benefit of adjustment for cassettes recorded on another deck to play > >without loss of High frequency in these later decks. > > > >Here we are talking of very small adjsutment of Azimuth alone while the > >Zenith of these heads require correct positioning. So you need >calibrating > >gauges and tapes ( of great cost) to position the heads on the correct > >location! > > > >The adjustment( record calibration)of Azimuth is very small and that > >actually corrects any change in position of the heads if it had moved as > >Nak head position can move on their base with only a plastic screw >holding > >them on to the head block! > > Generally once calibrated the position does not cahnge over time unless > >the deck is transported or head is physically moved. > >Kannan > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Sat Jan 18 07:08:21 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 17:08:21 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E63@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> SAY WHAT!!! You got a Dragon for FREE!!! Who is this wealthy family you know, I need to get in touch with them and hopefully they will do the same for me :) That's fantastic Alex, well done. A similar thing happened to me, a family I know gave me their Akai reel to reel, but somehow I feel it's not the same as what you received. Well here's my story. I live in Wantirna Victoria, in Australia (yes that's pretty much the butt end of the world). I've loved hifi gear since day one of my life. I was first introduced to Nakamichi gear from my friends brother. He had (and still does) a high end stereo setup consisting of Luxman amp/turntable, phase linear preamp and power amp, monster JBL speakers, and a Nakamichi 670ZX together with a Highcom II noise reduction unit. I fell in love with the tape deck immediately (just loved the blue lamps and the analog meters). I was stunned with the sound quality and the silent mechanism. Some years later (1989) he knew of a friend that was selling a BX300 for $300 Aus. I snapped it up a quickly as I could, he offered me to pay him bit by bit because I was in College at the time and did not have a lot of money. Sure I was not as attractive as the 670 but it was a NAK! I still own that unit, has not skipped a beat. Later I came across a 480 in a second hand audio shop for only $100. It needed a little work (replacement of lamps, clean here and there), but it sounded good for a two head unit. I bought it for two reasons, one - I love the analog meters, and two, I wanted to collect naks. Some time later I was offered a ZX9 for only $200 Aus. The cosmetics were 8 out of 10, and it had two faults. The first fault was a collapsed erase bias oscillator circuit, and the seconds was the left channel disappeared when recording with Dolby C. These faults were due to those bloody ORANGE CAPS! The faults have been repaired by me but thanks to the great Stephen Sank for the directions I needed. Later on another nak was offered to me, a 482Z. This unit was in bad shape, could not record, the mechanics were not good either. A trip to Mr Sank concluded that this poor little Nakkie had to be put down, but Mr Sank offered me a RX505 at a very decent price with a voltage conversion to 220/240 volts (God bless you Stephen :)) So there you have it my collection of naks from the bx300, zx9, 480 and finally the rx505. I hope I have not bored you to death. Regards Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Cagann [mailto:alex at autoconsortium.com] Sent: Saturday, 18 January 2003 2:32 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: RE: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > > I'd like to gather information from > > > NakTalkers to create a spatial database of who you are, where you > > > live, years you've collected Nak gear, decks you possess, et cetera. Hello Ol Joe. I live in Indianapolis, Indiana. Have lived here forever. I am 30 years old and have had a nak deck since I was 15. I was actually given a Nakamichi Dragon when I was 15. No, my parents didn't buy me one, they had neither the money nor the inclination for audio gear. I always loved audio gear but couldn't afford much at all. My friend's family was ultra wealthy. They had 3 dragons, a ton of Mac stuff, a ton of Luxman stuff, etc, etc. I got to know his parents quite well and often mentioned how much I loved their Nakamichi Dragons. They told me to take one! Damn...I'm not sure if that wasn't the happiest day of my life....being only 15 and getting a Dragon for free! I still have the deck and it has worked great for all these years. Stephen repaired it a couple years ago, some azimuth error and capstan motor tuning was needed. A year ago I bought an RX505 to compliment the Dragon. I got it on ebay for $350 and it looks like it was just pulled out of the box. The two magnificent Nak's completely dominate my audio system rack...damn Nak equipment is beautiful. I have no other Nakamichi equipment but I have talked my dad into putting a budget system together from ebay. I think he should opt for the LX5 deck and an OMS disc player. Also, Stephen, I think we are going to get one of your turntables....please email me about that as I lost your info. That's my story. I am enjoying reading the info on everyone...good idea Joe! I'm also very grateful for this list (thank you Wouter) because my friends/acquaintances/girlfriend could care less about discussing tape decks :-) Alex Cagann ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Sat Jan 18 07:16:41 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 17:16:41 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E64@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Hey Gra', what would you like for your birthday ? ;) -----Original Message----- From: Graham Nelson [mailto:graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, 18 January 2003 7:37 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: RE: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) I'm ALMOST 48 (birthday next month, guys ... get buying those presents for me ...) and live near Liverpool in the UK. I started with cassette way back 29 years ago when I bought a Sony unit that packed it's own amplifier and speakers. I've still got it ... for old times sake, not to use. I upgraded to a Aiwa AD1800 (top of the range in the UK at the time I bought it) about 3 years later, which gave good service for a number of years and still doesn't sound too bad. At that time I also heard about Nakamichi ... but they were way out of my price range. A couple or so years ago, I picked up a brand new Pioneer CTS830S @ half price. I know some of you aren't impressed by the Pioneer decks but this one does an excellent job in Dolby S and is brilliant at bringing life back into very old recordings. It will also play and record on tapes as long as C120 without any problems ... can't say that about a Nak! However ... I got my first Nak', a BX-1, courtesy of Stephen almost two years ago. A few months later, fortune smiled on me, I got a small windfall and acquired a ZX-9 from a fellow in Holland. Oh, that ZX-9 .... who needs Dolby S with one of these??? Last year I also bought a RX-505 on e-Bay. I've never touched, let alone heard it because it went straight to Stephen for servicing and repair and is now on sale on e-Bay. (Bidding is currently at the ridiculously low price of $375 ... I hope it goes higher than that!) I have also recently bought a ReVox B215 but have not yet received it - it's in transit from Paris. Luckily, there is a ReVox service engineer only an hour's drive from here, so I am hoping this deck will offer me god service, too. My next purchase ... I might be tempted by a CR7, for the azimuth adjust' playback, as an alternative to the Pioneer but, more likely, I think I may go for a HD recorder with built-in CD/R ... Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > The BlueSwapper > Sent: 17 January 2003 03:41 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Cc: blueswapper at angelfire.com > Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > > Dear NakTalk friends > > I'm pleased with the refreshing recent return to Nak related > topics, and I'm quite intrigued with the growing international > mix of the membership. Being a geographer and cartographer > during my early professional career (that was twenty years ago, > I'm now an information systems manager involved with geographic > information system & global positioning system technologies), I'd > like to gather information from NakTalkers to create a spatial > database of who you are, where you live, years you've collected > Nak gear, decks you possess, et cetera. With such a database of > information, I could then easily create a nice global map showing > where everyone resides in relation to each other. Selected > information could also be attributed to locations and names. And > from that a digital colored map image could then be created > shared between all participating NakTalkers. This might be a > fair amount of work for me, but let's see if there is interest > and usefulness for the membership. > > Haven't you occasionally wondered where someone who posted a > message lives in the world? Well, a global location map might be > a nice visual compliment to understanding where your NakTalk > friends are emailing us world-wide. I'm curious if others have > similar feelings about furthering global comradery and understanding. > > Interested in supporting and furthering my idea? I will wait for > your replies, directly to me or via NakTalk. > > Best regards, > > K.J. Bleus > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Give Peace A Chance!!! > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Sun Jan 19 10:59:10 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 20:59:10 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E65@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Hi Roland. How is the X-2000rbl? I own a X-1000Rbl, a A-3340s and a X700R. All still going strong. Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: Roland Alford [mailto:roleo at telus.net] Sent: Sunday, 19 January 2003 3:11 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) Time to add mine... Roland Alford - West Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Cassette Tape Decks: Nakamichi Dragon; Nakamichi 680ZX; Nakamichi 550; SONY WM-D3 Pro Walkman. Reel to Reel: TEAC X-2000Rbl; Revox B-77 II. Other Recorder: TASCAM CDRW-2000 Pro CD Recorder Been an audio enthusiast since the first time I heard a real stereo in 1972 - age 10. (LP played was Audio Fidelity's Stereo Spectacular Demonstration & Sound Effects LP [DFS 7777]; Still own a good copy of the LP.) Got my first stereo in 1977 - began annoying my neighbors soon after... Bought my first Nakamichi (BX-100) in 1985 and was blown away by the difference over other decks. (BX-100 still going strong now belongs to a friend.) Never looked back! ----- Original Message ----- From: "The BlueSwapper" To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 2:17 PM Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > Ron, others..... > > No prob, I've got copies of all the recent Nak Digests. In fact, I've started copying the messages with relevant info into one doc file as a preliminary preparation. > > Bleus > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > Ron wrote: > I hope you have already saved the data posted here in the > past few days. > > -- Ron > > > The BlueSwapper wrote: > > > > Several NakTalkers have responded to the global NakTalker's database > & map idea, and I'm seeing enough support for the idea to feel that > coordinating and building a database of info to create a global > reference map is feasible, worthwhile, and will be useful to the > NakTalk membership as we continue to communicate. > > > > Fear not, a caveat will be that privacy of individuals will remain > absolutely secure, and personal details (email address, home address, > phone number, etc) will not be stored or accessed through the database. > > > > I will begin to formulate a project plan in the near future. > Anyone who wishes to participate should share their thoughts on > NakTalk, and/or contact me directly. Let's see where this takes us..... > > > > Regards, > > > > K.J. Bleus > > > > --- > > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > > > > --------- Forwarded Message --------- > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Sun Jan 19 16:03:56 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 22:03:56 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E63@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Message-ID: <003101c2bfcc$78e1e920$62299bca@smarzuki> Tom, ZX9 for U$100 !!! Don't you just looove those orange caps :-) :-) Interesting story indeed. Where's your 482Z now ? My 482 has rack handle, door well light and an op275 add-on, so I could use your Z meters .... =) Best regards, Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Siomopoulos To: 'naktalk at naks.com' Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 1:08 PM Subject: RE: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) SAY WHAT!!! You got a Dragon for FREE!!! Who is this wealthy family you know, I need to get in touch with them and hopefully they will do the same for me :) That's fantastic Alex, well done. A similar thing happened to me, a family I know gave me their Akai reel to reel, but somehow I feel it's not the same as what you received. Well here's my story. I live in Wantirna Victoria, in Australia (yes that's pretty much the butt end of the world). I've loved hifi gear since day one of my life. I was first introduced to Nakamichi gear from my friends brother. He had (and still does) a high end stereo setup consisting of Luxman amp/turntable, phase linear preamp and power amp, monster JBL speakers, and a Nakamichi 670ZX together with a Highcom II noise reduction unit. I fell in love with the tape deck immediately (just loved the blue lamps and the analog meters). I was stunned with the sound quality and the silent mechanism. Some years later (1989) he knew of a friend that was selling a BX300 for $300 Aus. I snapped it up a quickly as I could, he offered me to pay him bit by bit because I was in College at the time and did not have a lot of money. Sure I was not as attractive as the 670 but it was a NAK! I still own that unit, has not skipped a beat. Later I came across a 480 in a second hand audio shop for only $100. It needed a little work (replacement of lamps, clean here and there), but it sounded good for a two head unit. I bought it for two reasons, one - I love the analog meters, and two, I wanted to collect naks. Some time later I was offered a ZX9 for only $200 Aus. The cosmetics were 8 out of 10, and it had two faults. The first fault was a collapsed erase bias oscillator circuit, and the seconds was the left channel disappeared when recording with Dolby C. These faults were due to those bloody ORANGE CAPS! The faults have been repaired by me but thanks to the great Stephen Sank for the directions I needed. Later on another nak was offered to me, a 482Z. This unit was in bad shape, could not record, the mechanics were not good either. A trip to Mr Sank concluded that this poor little Nakkie had to be put down, but Mr Sank offered me a RX505 at a very decent price with a voltage conversion to 220/240 volts (God bless you Stephen :)) So there you have it my collection of naks from the bx300, zx9, 480 and finally the rx505. I hope I have not bored you to death. Regards Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Cagann [mailto:alex at autoconsortium.com] From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Sun Jan 19 16:06:33 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 22:06:33 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E64@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Message-ID: <003201c2bfcc$79bc1c80$62299bca@smarzuki> What about a big rock nicely wrapped for his remarks on japanese decks ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Siomopoulos To: 'naktalk at naks.com' Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 1:16 PM Subject: RE: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) Hey Gra', what would you like for your birthday ? ;) -----Original Message----- From: Graham Nelson [mailto:graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, 18 January 2003 7:37 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: RE: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) I'm ALMOST 48 (birthday next month, guys ... get buying those presents for me ...) and live near Liverpool in the UK. I started with cassette way back 29 years ago when I bought a Sony unit that packed it's own amplifier and speakers. I've still got it ... for old times sake, not to use. I upgraded From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Sun Jan 19 17:49:52 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 23:49:52 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] OT: Yes / ELP References: <3E298639.26053.1E0FF4C@localhost> Message-ID: <002801c2bfda$ca0cafc0$b8299bca@smarzuki> Hi Tim, I only have a copy of Triumvirate's Pompeii and loved it ! Too bad that's about the only album available here. About ELP records, Tarkus was recorded before the live show, yet sound gorgeous. And the music ... simply incomparable to what we have thesedays. :-( Best regards, Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: timbarrett at cox.net To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 4:52 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] OT: Yes / ELP Hi Salim- Another ELP fan over here ... it's not just 'welcome back my friends', but many of their recordings seem to suffer from lack of quality, specially the early albums, which is unfortunate. Are you familiar with the German group Triumvirate? They were contemporary with ELP. Look for the 'Illusions', 'old loves', or 'spartacus' albums. Cheers, Tim B On 19 Jan 2003 at 3:08, Salim Marzuki wrote: From roleo at telus.net Sun Jan 19 18:28:44 2003 From: roleo at telus.net (Roland Alford) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 09:28:44 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E65@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Message-ID: <003301c2bfe0$37d32840$8075059a@desktop> Hi Tom! I love the X-2000R! I have been a reel fan since I was young. The X-2000R offers a couple of things over the X-1000R: Bias Fine Tune, Individual channel recording (something that was more common on older decks.) Better heads (?). Is it better than the X-1000R? I've had both and wouldn't necessarily say so, although it is Better Looking, IMHO. Some actually say the X-1000R has better electronics. Boths sound the same to me, of course I'm only using my ears - no fancy tools to measure response.. --Roland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Siomopoulos" To: Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 1:59 AM Subject: RE: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > Hi Roland. How is the X-2000rbl? I own a X-1000Rbl, a A-3340s and a X700R. > All still going strong. > > Tom Siomopoulos. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roland Alford [mailto:roleo at telus.net] > Sent: Sunday, 19 January 2003 3:11 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > > Time to add mine... > > Roland Alford - West Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada > > Cassette Tape Decks: Nakamichi Dragon; Nakamichi 680ZX; Nakamichi 550; SONY > WM-D3 Pro Walkman. > > Reel to Reel: TEAC X-2000Rbl; Revox B-77 II. > > Other Recorder: TASCAM CDRW-2000 Pro CD Recorder > > Been an audio enthusiast since the first time I heard a real stereo in > 1972 - age 10. (LP played was Audio Fidelity's Stereo Spectacular > Demonstration & Sound Effects LP [DFS 7777]; Still own a good copy of the > LP.) > > Got my first stereo in 1977 - began annoying my neighbors soon after... > > Bought my first Nakamichi (BX-100) in 1985 and was blown away by the > difference over other decks. (BX-100 still going strong now belongs to a > friend.) > > Never looked back! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The BlueSwapper" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 2:17 PM > Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > > > Ron, others..... > > > > No prob, I've got copies of all the recent Nak Digests. In fact, I've > started copying the messages with relevant info into one doc file as a > preliminary preparation. > > > > Bleus > > > > --- > > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Ron wrote: > > I hope you have already saved the data posted here in the > > past few days. > > > > -- Ron > > > > > > The BlueSwapper wrote: > > > > > > Several NakTalkers have responded to the global NakTalker's database > > & map idea, and I'm seeing enough support for the idea to feel that > > coordinating and building a database of info to create a global > > reference map is feasible, worthwhile, and will be useful to the > > NakTalk membership as we continue to communicate. > > > > > > Fear not, a caveat will be that privacy of individuals will remain > > absolutely secure, and personal details (email address, home address, > > phone number, etc) will not be stored or accessed through the database. > > > > > > I will begin to formulate a project plan in the near future. > > Anyone who wishes to participate should share their thoughts on > > NakTalk, and/or contact me directly. Let's see where this takes us..... > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > K.J. Bleus > > > > > > --- > > > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > > > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > > > > > > --------- Forwarded Message --------- > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > > Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > From blueswapper at angelfire.com Sun Jan 19 18:36:08 2003 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 09:36:08 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) Message-ID: The initial response has given us already a global sense of NakTalk enthusiasts from around the world. Here's the short list of names and geographic locations as of today: Jim Volpatti, San Francisco, CA USA Ron ????, Boston Metro, MA USA Istvan ????, (Budapest???), Hungary Ken ????, Greensboro, NC USA Alex Cagann, Indianapolis, IN USA John M. Tooley, Milton, DE USA John Walker, Portland, England UK Graham Nelson, Liverpool Metro, England UK Maurits J. Raven, ????, Netherlands Rob Kent, San Franciso Metro, CA USA Isy Fidelman, Caracas, Venezuela Roland Alford, West Vancouver, BC Canada Tom Siomopoulos, Wantirna Victoria, Australia K.J. Bleus, Madison, WI USA Quality Assurance check - Now, did I overlook some others who have responded but are not yet portrayed on the short list above? Certainly other NakTalkers will want to be included, who might they be?? Email NakTalk or me directly. Let's see a diversity of geographic locations around the world, agreed??? Just let me know, I'll be working on the project database and maps mostly during coming winter month weekends. For now, peaceful regards! K.J. Bleus --- Help keep the blues alive! Got some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html --------- Forwarded Message --------- DATE: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 04:48:23 From: "The BlueSwapper" To: naktalk at naks.com Cc:blueswapper at angelfire.com Several NakTalkers have responded to the global NakTalker's database & map idea, and I'm seeing enough support for the idea to feel that coordinating and building a database of info to create a global reference map is feasible, worthwhile, and will be useful to the NakTalk membership as we continue to communicate. Fear not, a caveat will be that privacy of individuals will remain absolutely secure, and personal details (email address, home address, phone number, etc) will not be stored or accessed through the database. I will begin to formulate a project plan in the near future. Anyone who wishes to participate should share their thoughts on NakTalk, and/or contact me directly. Let's see where this takes us..... Regards, K.J. Bleus --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper --------- End Forwarded Message --------- ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus From blueswapper at angelfire.com Sun Jan 19 19:03:34 2003 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:03:34 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] APP (History of the Alan Parsons Project) Message-ID: Several months ago, we had a cheerful discussion about an album of oral history and music covering the years covering the well-regarded musical efforts of Alan Parsons and his Alan Parsons Project (APP). Well, I've been listening to that compilation again, and was reminded that it is quite an intriguing effort historically. I finally did transpose the two vinyl discs to a master cassette tape over the holidays, and it does (just barely) fit onto a Maxell XLIIS 100 cassette. Total time of the recording is 99:37 (min:sec). Last summer, a few NakTalkers conveyed interest in having an opportunity to listen and (respectfully) duplicate the album. I suggested that after the Nak Marathon Tape project was complete, we could devise a plan to send a master cassette around to interested individuals who would make cassette duplicates for personal use. Sort of a networked distribution effort based on a commitment to pass the APP cassette to the next person promptly and safely. Well, what do the few who are interested have to say now that we're into the year 2003? Marathon Tape production is slow, yet hopefully will be finished in the future. I could do a limited duplication (using my RX505 as source deck to my ZX7 recording deck) to create maybe two copies that could be sent to primary contacts in the eastern and wester hemispheres of the world. Maybe a plan of action of the two zones being eastern as Europe and Africa, Asia, and western as North and South America. Of course, this all depends upon enthusiasm and willingness to contribute to a successful effort between us all. Well, I thought as long as I had the idea in front of me this weekend, I would bring that forward for further discussion among my friends. Comments can be sent to me directly at: Best regards, K.J. Bleus --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus From wdrewes at iafrica.com Sun Jan 19 19:23:25 2003 From: wdrewes at iafrica.com (wdrewes) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 20:23:25 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) Message-ID: <01a601c2bfe7$dbd03080$ac231ec4@private> Please put me into your global story. I am a proud nakker from DURBAN , South Africa. I own the following items. Four Dragons,RX505 ,700ZXE, two 682 ZX, CR3, 600, 550.Other items include T100 Audio Analyzer,PA 7,CA 7,T 7, Two OMS 7 Amp 1 .Quite a number of items were given to me because of orange cap desease or were picked up for next to nothing at Sunday Morning markets.Unfortunately the present generation in our population dont know Nakamichi so these machines are not cherished but end up on junk heaps .I am sure you will also find them in similiar places in the USA if you only tried to find them ! The problem is what do I do with these things when I get to Mark's (Someone here in South Africa,- lives near Bloemfontein) age? I am not a reseller or Tech guy ,but suffer from the Nakamichi sickness ! -Walter Drewes----Original Message----- From: The BlueSwapper To: naktalk at naks.com Cc: blueswapper at angelfire.som.naks.com Date: Sunday, January 19, 2003 7:39 PM Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) >The initial response has given us already a global sense of NakTalk enthusiasts from around the world. Here's the short list of names and geographic locations as of today: > >Jim Volpatti, San Francisco, CA USA >Ron ????, Boston Metro, MA USA >Istvan ????, (Budapest???), Hungary >Ken ????, Greensboro, NC USA >Alex Cagann, Indianapolis, IN USA >John M. Tooley, Milton, DE USA >John Walker, Portland, England UK >Graham Nelson, Liverpool Metro, England UK >Maurits J. Raven, ????, Netherlands >Rob Kent, San Franciso Metro, CA USA >Isy Fidelman, Caracas, Venezuela >Roland Alford, West Vancouver, BC Canada >Tom Siomopoulos, Wantirna Victoria, Australia >K.J. Bleus, Madison, WI USA > >Quality Assurance check - Now, did I overlook some others who have responded but are not yet portrayed on the short list above? Certainly other NakTalkers will want to be included, who might they be?? Email NakTalk or me directly. Let's see a diversity of geographic locations around the world, agreed??? > >Just let me know, I'll be working on the project database and maps mostly during coming winter month weekends. For now, peaceful regards! > >K.J. Bleus > >--- >Help keep the blues alive! Got some??? >http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html >http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html > > > >--------- Forwarded Message --------- > >DATE: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 04:48:23 >From: "The BlueSwapper" >To: naktalk at naks.com >Cc:blueswapper at angelfire.com >Several NakTalkers have responded to the global NakTalker's database & map idea, and I'm seeing enough support for the idea to feel that coordinating and building a database of info to create a global reference map is feasible, worthwhile, and will be useful to the NakTalk membership as we continue to communicate. > >Fear not, a caveat will be that privacy of individuals will remain absolutely secure, and personal details (email address, home address, phone number, etc) will not be stored or accessed through the database. > >I will begin to formulate a project plan in the near future. Anyone who wishes to participate should share their thoughts on NakTalk, and/or contact me directly. Let's see where this takes us..... > >Regards, > >K.J. Bleus > >--- >Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? >http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > >--------- End Forwarded Message --------- > > > >____________________________________________________________ >Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! >Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== From sandorpistike at hotmail.com Sun Jan 19 20:11:07 2003 From: sandorpistike at hotmail.com (Sndor Istvn) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 20:11:07 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) Message-ID: Hello Mr. Bleus, of course I want to "take a seat" on the list... My complete name is Istv�n S�ndor. I live in Saj�sz�ged, which is just a small village of about 3000 inhabitants, if you mention me as the guy who lives in Hungary, will be enough. I have a ZX7 and a RX505E. I bought the first in 1998 (if I remember well), and it was quite expensive (I remember clearly the amount in Hungarian Forints, but I do not remember the exchange rate of that time at all.) The second Nak were bought just some days ago, its price was 320EUR. This still must be tuned, because it sounds differently compared to the already tuned ZX7. I bought my first Nak because I read much abouth the superb properties of Naks. I saw one ad in a newspaper, went to the seller, and was totally impressed by the quality of the sound. Since then I really admire the quality of Naks, and the most impressive for me is that they are still over other manufacturers however my zx7 is at least 18years old. I hope it is all understandable. If someone need any more information, just ask me! Best regards, Istv�n >From: "The BlueSwapper" >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: naktalk at naks.com >CC: blueswapper at angelfire.som.naks.com >Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) >Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 09:36:08 -0800 > >The initial response has given us already a global sense of NakTalk >enthusiasts from around the world. Here's the short list of names and >geographic locations as of today: > >Jim Volpatti, San Francisco, CA USA >Ron ????, Boston Metro, MA USA >Istvan ????, (Budapest???), Hungary >Ken ????, Greensboro, NC USA >Alex Cagann, Indianapolis, IN USA >John M. Tooley, Milton, DE USA >John Walker, Portland, England UK >Graham Nelson, Liverpool Metro, England UK >Maurits J. Raven, ????, Netherlands >Rob Kent, San Franciso Metro, CA USA >Isy Fidelman, Caracas, Venezuela >Roland Alford, West Vancouver, BC Canada >Tom Siomopoulos, Wantirna Victoria, Australia >K.J. Bleus, Madison, WI USA > >Quality Assurance check - Now, did I overlook some others who have >responded but are not yet portrayed on the short list above? Certainly >other NakTalkers will want to be included, who might they be?? Email >NakTalk or me directly. Let's see a diversity of geographic locations >around the world, agreed??? > >Just let me know, I'll be working on the project database and maps mostly >during coming winter month weekends. For now, peaceful regards! > >K.J. Bleus > >--- >Help keep the blues alive! Got some??? >http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html >http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html > > > >--------- Forwarded Message --------- > >DATE: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 04:48:23 >From: "The BlueSwapper" >To: naktalk at naks.com >Cc:blueswapper at angelfire.com >Several NakTalkers have responded to the global NakTalker's database & map >idea, and I'm seeing enough support for the idea to feel that coordinating >and building a database of info to create a global reference map is >feasible, worthwhile, and will be useful to the NakTalk membership as we >continue to communicate. > >Fear not, a caveat will be that privacy of individuals will remain >absolutely secure, and personal details (email address, home address, phone >number, etc) will not be stored or accessed through the database. > >I will begin to formulate a project plan in the near future. Anyone who >wishes to participate should share their thoughts on NakTalk, and/or >contact me directly. Let's see where this takes us..... > >Regards, > >K.J. Bleus > >--- >Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? >http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > >--------- End Forwarded Message --------- > > > >____________________________________________________________ >Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! >Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From timbarrett at cox.net Sun Jan 19 20:15:00 2003 From: timbarrett at cox.net (timbarrett at cox.net) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:15:00 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3E2AB2E4.16403.D393AF@localhost> Please add me to the list - Tim Barrett, Fairfax, VA, USA On 19 Jan 2003 at 9:36, The BlueSwapper wrote: > The initial response has given us already a global sense of NakTalk > enthusiasts from around the world. Here's the short list of names and > geographic locations as of today: > > Jim Volpatti, San Francisco, CA USA > Ron ????, Boston Metro, MA USA > Istvan ????, (Budapest???), Hungary > Ken ????, Greensboro, NC USA > Alex Cagann, Indianapolis, IN USA > John M. Tooley, Milton, DE USA > John Walker, Portland, England UK > Graham Nelson, Liverpool Metro, England UK > Maurits J. Raven, ????, Netherlands > Rob Kent, San Franciso Metro, CA USA > Isy Fidelman, Caracas, Venezuela > Roland Alford, West Vancouver, BC Canada > Tom Siomopoulos, Wantirna Victoria, Australia > K.J. Bleus, Madison, WI USA > > Quality Assurance check - Now, did I overlook some others who have > responded but are not yet portrayed on the short list above? > Certainly other NakTalkers will want to be included, who might they > be?? Email NakTalk or me directly. Let's see a diversity of > geographic locations around the world, agreed??? > > Just let me know, I'll be working on the project database and maps > mostly during coming winter month weekends. For now, peaceful > regards! > > K.J. Bleus > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Got some??? > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html > > > > --------- Forwarded Message --------- > > DATE: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 04:48:23 > From: "The BlueSwapper" > To: naktalk at naks.com > Cc:blueswapper at angelfire.com > Several NakTalkers have responded to the global NakTalker's database & > map idea, and I'm seeing enough support for the idea to feel that > coordinating and building a database of info to create a global > reference map is feasible, worthwhile, and will be useful to the > NakTalk membership as we continue to communicate. > > Fear not, a caveat will be that privacy of individuals will remain > absolutely secure, and personal details (email address, home address, > phone number, etc) will not be stored or accessed through the > database. > > I will begin to formulate a project plan in the near future. Anyone > who wishes to participate should share their thoughts on NakTalk, > and/or contact me directly. Let's see where this takes us..... > > Regards, > > K.J. Bleus > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > > --------- End Forwarded Message --------- > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > ========-------------------------------------------------------------- > ----========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========-------------------------------------------------------------- > ----========= From sandorpistike at hotmail.com Sun Jan 19 20:29:39 2003 From: sandorpistike at hotmail.com (Sndor Istvn) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 20:29:39 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning Message-ID: Hello Tom, I feel lucky also! She brought this RX505E because I won an auction at ebay. The seller lives in Wien, and my wife had to go there because of other arrangements to do. She is very patient with me regarding my hobbies (I have some, eg. motorbiking). And she likes music also. She was impressed by the quality of Naks, and she does not ask why are they more expenyive as other second-hand machines. Have you ever tried to make your wife to listen to the music for at least one hour? I think 1 hour is enough to convince wives. I am afraid some of us has tried it for 10-20-30 years, and still no positive result. So I am really lucky! Istv�n >From: Thomas Siomopoulos >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: "'naktalk at naks.com'" >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning >Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:11:59 +1100 > >Guess wehat Salim, tweeking the height screw was the first thing I did on >my >BX300, I thought the screw was for alignment (silly me!) With the head >height and azimuth alligned the RX 505 sounds brilliant (as do all other >naks). Istv�n you are a very lucky man to have a wife that brought you a >RX505, if my wife did that I'd quickly say to her "imposter! Who are you? >My >real wife wouldn't think of bringing such a device to me!" > > Regards Tom Siomopoulos. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Salim Marzuki [mailto:smarzuki at indosat.net.id] >Sent: Thursday, 16 January 2003 3:18 >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning > > > >Hi Istv�n, > >You're lucky to have Nak tech center close to you. What country are you >located ? Regarding those plastic screws ... can you believe that when i >brought home my brand new CR4 some years ago, the first thing i did was >"tweak" the height screw ??? Ouch !! > >I agree RX flipping mechanism is a real beauty to watch. Better get your >505 to that Nak shop to get the heads aligned & probably belts replaced. I >imagine the 120us eq switch will be difficult to repair but should be easy >to replace. > >Good luck ! >Salim SM (Jakarta, Indonesia) > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: S�ndor Istv�n >To: naktalk at naks.com >Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:39 PM >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning > > >Hello Salim, > >I too, learned that lesson that time I bought the deck (about 4 years >ago)... Since then I made it tuned at a specialized service-shop, and since >then of course I do not made any alignment with those large white plastic >screws. > >Yesterday my wife brought me an RX505, and I found that its head is >possibly >misaligned. The ZX7 sounds better regerdless of original (pre-recorded) >casette or not. I will have to bring it to the above-mentioned shop, and >make it tuned. > >It is still like a toy for a child, I was really amazed of how fast it >flips >the cassette. I nearly laughed, it was so funny for me. > >Best regards, >Istv�n > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From jmtooley at ce.net Sun Jan 19 20:32:06 2003 From: jmtooley at ce.net (John M. Tooley) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:32:06 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] APP (History of the Alan Parsons Project) References: Message-ID: <000f01c2bff1$7396a030$64106343@johnnyrotten> Bleus, Please count me in. I could dub to cassette, DAT, Minidisc, CD, Reel, whatever! John T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "The BlueSwapper" To: ; Cc: Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 1:03 PM Subject: [naktalk] APP (History of the Alan Parsons Project) > Several months ago, we had a cheerful discussion about an album of oral history and music covering the years covering the well-regarded musical efforts of Alan Parsons and his Alan Parsons Project (APP). > > Well, I've been listening to that compilation again, and was reminded that it is quite an intriguing effort historically. I finally did transpose the two vinyl discs to a master cassette tape over the holidays, and it does (just barely) fit onto a Maxell XLIIS 100 cassette. Total time of the recording is 99:37 (min:sec). > > Last summer, a few NakTalkers conveyed interest in having an opportunity to listen and (respectfully) duplicate the album. I suggested that after the Nak Marathon Tape project was complete, we could devise a plan to send a master cassette around to interested individuals who would make cassette duplicates for personal use. Sort of a networked distribution effort based on a commitment to pass the APP cassette to the next person promptly and safely. Well, what do the few who are interested have to say now that we're into the year 2003? Marathon Tape production is slow, yet hopefully will be finished in the future. I could do a limited duplication (using my RX505 as source deck to my ZX7 recording deck) to create maybe two copies that could be sent to primary contacts in the eastern and wester hemispheres of the world. Maybe a plan of action of the two zones being eastern as Europe and Africa, Asia, and western as North and South America. Of course, this all depends upon! > enthusiasm and willingness to contribute to a successful effort between us all. > > Well, I thought as long as I had the idea in front of me this weekend, I would bring that forward for further discussion among my friends. Comments can be sent to me directly at: > > Best regards, > > K.J. Bleus > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > From timbarrett at cox.net Sun Jan 19 20:31:34 2003 From: timbarrett at cox.net (timbarrett at cox.net) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:31:34 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] OT: Yes / ELP In-Reply-To: <002801c2bfda$ca0cafc0$b8299bca@smarzuki> Message-ID: <3E2AB6C6.9430.E2BEBA@localhost> Salim- Pompei is the one I don't like as much as the others. If you are interested in any of the other Triumvirate material I'd be happy to put it on cassette for you. I had the fortune to see ELP in concert a few times way back in the 70's (damn, I'm getting old), but it wasn't until a few years ago that I saw Yes in concert, at the Nissan Pavilion near here. Alan Parsons opened, so the show was a double whammy for me. It was a great night! Tim On 19 Jan 2003 at 23:49, Salim Marzuki wrote: > > Hi Tim, I only have a copy of Triumvirate's Pompeii and loved it ! > Too bad that's about the only album available here. About ELP > records, Tarkus was recorded before the live show, yet sound gorgeous. > And the music ... simply incomparable to what we have thesedays. :-( > > Best regards, > Salim SM > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: timbarrett at cox.net > To: naktalk at naks.com > Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 4:52 AM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] OT: Yes / ELP > > > Hi Salim- > > Another ELP fan over here ... it's not just 'welcome back my friends', > but many of their recordings seem to suffer from lack of quality, > specially the early albums, which is unfortunate. Are you familiar > with the German group Triumvirate? They were contemporary with ELP. > Look for the 'Illusions', 'old loves', or 'spartacus' albums. > > Cheers, > Tim B > > On 19 Jan 2003 at 3:08, Salim Marzuki wrote: > > > ========-------------------------------------------------------------- > ----========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========-------------------------------------------------------------- > ----========= From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Sun Jan 19 20:38:53 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 02:38:53 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: <01a601c2bfe7$dbd03080$ac231ec4@private> Message-ID: <000f01c2bff2$804b3b00$b11a9bca@smarzuki> Looks like Bleus missed my entry, so please put me next to this nakfreak =) Almost similar story to Walter's on orange caps and low acquisition cost ... here's my inventory list: 482, 581, 680zx, 682zx, 700zxl, 1000zxl, lx5, zx5, zx9, rx202, bx300 (3), cd1, cr3, cr4, cr7 and dragon. Matching receivers: sr3, sr4 and re-1. Musicbanks: cd-3, mb2 and mb1s. System: ca7a, pa7ii, t7 ... and 2 nonworking oms7. Miscellaneous: nr200, td500, td700. Except for the cr4, re and nr, the rest were gathered not long after joining naktalk ... i'm sure the influence would not be as bad had I joined levinsontalk instead. But there's hope for a cure: planning to let go of 682zx, if anybody's interested ... Walter? You only have two there. :-) And please let me know if you find Nak turntable on Sunday market ! Greetings from Jakarta, Indonesia Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: wdrewes To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 1:23 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) Please put me into your global story. I am a proud nakker from DURBAN , South Africa. I own the following items. Four Dragons,RX505 ,700ZXE, two 682 ZX, CR3, 600, 550.Other items include T100 Audio Analyzer,PA 7,CA 7,T 7, Two OMS 7 Amp 1 .Quite a number of items were given to me because of orange cap desease or were picked up for next to nothing at Sunday Morning markets.Unfortunately the present generation in our population dont know Nakamichi so these machines are not cherished but end up on junk heaps .I am sure you will also find them in similiar places in the USA if you only tried to find them ! The problem is what do I do with these things when I get to Mark's (Someone here in South Africa,- lives near Bloemfontein) age? I am not a reseller or Tech guy ,but suffer from the Nakamichi sickness ! -Walter Drewes----Original Message----- From: The BlueSwapper To: naktalk at naks.com Cc: blueswapper at angelfire.som.naks.com Date: Sunday, January 19, 2003 7:39 PM Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) >The initial response has given us already a global sense of NakTalk enthusiasts from around the world. Here's the short list of names and geographic locations as of today: > >Jim Volpatti, San Francisco, CA USA >Ron ????, Boston Metro, MA USA >Istvan ????, (Budapest???), Hungary >Ken ????, Greensboro, NC USA >Alex Cagann, Indianapolis, IN USA >John M. Tooley, Milton, DE USA >John Walker, Portland, England UK >Graham Nelson, Liverpool Metro, England UK >Maurits J. Raven, ????, Netherlands >Rob Kent, San Franciso Metro, CA USA >Isy Fidelman, Caracas, Venezuela >Roland Alford, West Vancouver, BC Canada >Tom Siomopoulos, Wantirna Victoria, Australia >K.J. Bleus, Madison, WI USA > >Quality Assurance check - Now, did I overlook some others who have responded but are not yet portrayed on the short list above? Certainly other NakTalkers will want to be included, who might they be?? Email NakTalk or me directly. Let's see a diversity of geographic locations around the world, agreed??? > From sandorpistike at hotmail.com Sun Jan 19 20:52:18 2003 From: sandorpistike at hotmail.com (Sndor Istvn) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 20:52:18 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] List of Nak-Owners Message-ID: Hello Mr. Bleus, sorry for "lying". I have just bought a nice BX1 on ebay... ;-) Please add it to my inventory list. Wife still not informed... Bye! Istv�n _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From eddy.pollet at pandora.be Sun Jan 19 21:07:36 2003 From: eddy.pollet at pandora.be (POLLET Eddy) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 21:07:36 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) In-Reply-To: <20030119192004.31061.65254.Mailman@zebra.naks.com> Message-ID: Well, since it's becoming rather popular ... My name is Eddy Pollet, I live in Belgium, in Hove, a village near Antwerp . I'll turn 49 in february, and I bought my first Nak in '76, at the american army base in Wiesbaden, Germany ... a silver 600 . A few years later, I met a second-hand 700 in a shop, for about $ 700, and we're living happily together ever since :-) Since my wife pretends to get a headache whenever I play some of my preferred music, I really don't use my Naks very often, nor the rest of my sound system . For the moment I'm busy converting my home video's to VCD, but as soon as I've finished that, I'll start backing up all my cassette tapes ( I guess about 400 ) on CD-R, hoping that I'll live long enough to end those projects :-) Eddy From ra.ah at rcn.com Sun Jan 19 21:19:07 2003 From: ra.ah at rcn.com (Ron) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 15:19:07 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E64@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> <003201c2bfcc$79bc1c80$62299bca@smarzuki> Message-ID: <3E2B083B.211FA152@rcn.com> Nah... This is a free country and he is entitled to his opinions, as misguided as they may be. Make is a small rock! -- Ron Salim Marzuki wrote: > > What about a big rock nicely wrapped for his remarks on japanese decks ? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Thomas Siomopoulos > To: 'naktalk at naks.com' > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 1:16 PM > Subject: RE: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > Hey Gra', what would you like for your birthday ? ;) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Graham Nelson [mailto:graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk] > Sent: Saturday, 18 January 2003 7:37 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: RE: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > I'm ALMOST 48 (birthday next month, guys ... get buying those presents for > me ...) and live near Liverpool in the UK. I started with cassette way back > 29 years ago when I bought a Sony unit that packed it's own amplifier and > speakers. I've still got it ... for old times sake, not to use. I upgraded > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ra.ah at rcn.com Sun Jan 19 21:27:21 2003 From: ra.ah at rcn.com (Ron) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 15:27:21 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] APP (History of the Alan Parsons Project) References: Message-ID: <3E2B0A29.FC8C7238@rcn.com> First: YEA, I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED. Second: just an idea... If you have the means and inclination to convert the original to .WAV files, you could easily and cheaply email it to all interested parties. All that's required is a quality sound card. -- Ron The BlueSwapper wrote: > > Several months ago, we had a cheerful discussion about an album of oral history and music covering the years covering the well-regarded musical efforts of Alan Parsons and his Alan Parsons Project (APP). > > Well, I've been listening to that compilation again, and was reminded that it is quite an intriguing effort historically. I finally did transpose the two vinyl discs to a master cassette tape over the holidays, and it does (just barely) fit onto a Maxell XLIIS 100 cassette. Total time of the recording is 99:37 (min:sec). > > Last summer, a few NakTalkers conveyed interest in having an opportunity to listen and (respectfully) duplicate the album. I suggested that after the Nak Marathon Tape project was complete, we could devise a plan to send a master cassette around to interested individuals who would make cassette duplicates for personal use. Sort of a networked distribution effort based on a commitment to pass the APP cassette to the next person promptly and safely. Well, what do the few who are interested have to say now that we're into the year 2003? Marathon Tape production is slow, yet hopefully will be finished in the future. I could do a limited duplication (using my RX505 as source deck to my ZX7 recording deck) to create maybe two copies that could be sent to primary contacts in the eastern and wester hemispheres of the world. Maybe a plan of action of the two zones being eastern as Europe and Africa, Asia, and western as North and South America. Of course, this all depends upon! > enthusiasm and willingness to contribute to a successful effort between us all. > > Well, I thought as long as I had the idea in front of me this weekend, I would bring that forward for further discussion among my friends. Comments can be sent to me directly at: > > Best regards, > > K.J. Bleus From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sun Jan 19 21:46:05 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 20:46:05 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) In-Reply-To: <3E2B083B.211FA152@rcn.com> Message-ID: <000001c2bffb$c973c820$1ffb193e@oemcomputer> Hey! Not guilty! I'm not knocking Japanese decks! All my decks are Japanese except the Revox, which hasn't arrived yet! I just happen to like the idea of being able to continue getting spare parts for my cassette deck ... which is why I bought a ReVox. (And also 'cos it was cheap! Buying just before Christmas is a good time to get a nice deal ...) But if that little rock is a diamond ... I'll take it! That reminds me - Blues Man - I forgot to mention I have a Marantz/Superscope C220 portable, as well. (Made in Japan!) Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Ron > Sent: 19 January 2003 20:19 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > > > Nah... This is a free country and he is entitled to his > opinions, as misguided as they may be. > > Make is a small rock! > > -- Ron > > Salim Marzuki wrote: > > > > What about a big rock nicely wrapped for his remarks on japanese decks ? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Thomas Siomopoulos > > To: 'naktalk at naks.com' > > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 1:16 PM > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > > > Hey Gra', what would you like for your birthday ? ;) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Graham Nelson [mailto:graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk] > > Sent: Saturday, 18 January 2003 7:37 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > > > I'm ALMOST 48 (birthday next month, guys ... get buying those > presents for > > me ...) and live near Liverpool in the UK. I started with > cassette way back > > 29 years ago when I bought a Sony unit that packed it's own > amplifier and > > speakers. 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Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Sun Jan 19 22:17:06 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 08:17:06 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E67@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Yes István, you certainly are lucky to have such a wife. If I tried to get my wife to listen to music played on a Nak for an hour, she would loose interest very quickly, make some excuse, and leave :( Oh well. Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: Sándor István [mailto:sandorpistike at hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, 20 January 2003 6:30 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: RE: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning Hello Tom, I feel lucky also! She brought this RX505E because I won an auction at ebay. The seller lives in Wien, and my wife had to go there because of other arrangements to do. She is very patient with me regarding my hobbies (I have some, eg. motorbiking). And she likes music also. She was impressed by the quality of Naks, and she does not ask why are they more expenyive as other second-hand machines. Have you ever tried to make your wife to listen to the music for at least one hour? I think 1 hour is enough to convince wives. I am afraid some of us has tried it for 10-20-30 years, and still no positive result. So I am really lucky! István >From: Thomas Siomopoulos >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: "'naktalk at naks.com'" >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning >Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:11:59 +1100 > >Guess wehat Salim, tweeking the height screw was the first thing I did on >my >BX300, I thought the screw was for alignment (silly me!) With the head >height and azimuth alligned the RX 505 sounds brilliant (as do all other >naks). István you are a very lucky man to have a wife that brought you a >RX505, if my wife did that I'd quickly say to her "imposter! Who are you? >My >real wife wouldn't think of bringing such a device to me!" > > Regards Tom Siomopoulos. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Salim Marzuki [mailto:smarzuki at indosat.net.id] >Sent: Thursday, 16 January 2003 3:18 >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning > > > >Hi István, > >You're lucky to have Nak tech center close to you. What country are you >located ? Regarding those plastic screws ... can you believe that when i >brought home my brand new CR4 some years ago, the first thing i did was >"tweak" the height screw ??? Ouch !! > >I agree RX flipping mechanism is a real beauty to watch. Better get your >505 to that Nak shop to get the heads aligned & probably belts replaced. I >imagine the 120us eq switch will be difficult to repair but should be easy >to replace. > >Good luck ! >Salim SM (Jakarta, Indonesia) > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Sándor István >To: naktalk at naks.com >Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:39 PM >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning > > >Hello Salim, > >I too, learned that lesson that time I bought the deck (about 4 years >ago)... Since then I made it tuned at a specialized service-shop, and since >then of course I do not made any alignment with those large white plastic >screws. > >Yesterday my wife brought me an RX505, and I found that its head is >possibly >misaligned. The ZX7 sounds better regerdless of original (pre-recorded) >casette or not. I will have to bring it to the above-mentioned shop, and >make it tuned. > >It is still like a toy for a child, I was really amazed of how fast it >flips >the cassette. I nearly laughed, it was so funny for me. > >Best regards, >István > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= = >======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------= = >======= >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Sun Jan 19 22:23:25 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 08:23:25 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E68@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> I agree with you on the looks. I damm missed out on purchasing a x-2000Rbl with tapes for $300 Aus. That was over 4 years ago and I'm still kicking myself :( Regards Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: Roland Alford [mailto:roleo at telus.net] Sent: Monday, 20 January 2003 4:29 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) Hi Tom! I love the X-2000R! I have been a reel fan since I was young. The X-2000R offers a couple of things over the X-1000R: Bias Fine Tune, Individual channel recording (something that was more common on older decks.) Better heads (?). Is it better than the X-1000R? I've had both and wouldn't necessarily say so, although it is Better Looking, IMHO. Some actually say the X-1000R has better electronics. Boths sound the same to me, of course I'm only using my ears - no fancy tools to measure response.. --Roland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Siomopoulos" To: Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 1:59 AM Subject: RE: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > Hi Roland. How is the X-2000rbl? I own a X-1000Rbl, a A-3340s and a X700R. > All still going strong. > > Tom Siomopoulos. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roland Alford [mailto:roleo at telus.net] > Sent: Sunday, 19 January 2003 3:11 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > > Time to add mine... > > Roland Alford - West Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada > > Cassette Tape Decks: Nakamichi Dragon; Nakamichi 680ZX; Nakamichi 550; SONY > WM-D3 Pro Walkman. > > Reel to Reel: TEAC X-2000Rbl; Revox B-77 II. > > Other Recorder: TASCAM CDRW-2000 Pro CD Recorder > > Been an audio enthusiast since the first time I heard a real stereo in > 1972 - age 10. (LP played was Audio Fidelity's Stereo Spectacular > Demonstration & Sound Effects LP [DFS 7777]; Still own a good copy of the > LP.) > > Got my first stereo in 1977 - began annoying my neighbors soon after... > > Bought my first Nakamichi (BX-100) in 1985 and was blown away by the > difference over other decks. (BX-100 still going strong now belongs to a > friend.) > > Never looked back! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The BlueSwapper" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 2:17 PM > Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > > > Ron, others..... > > > > No prob, I've got copies of all the recent Nak Digests. In fact, I've > started copying the messages with relevant info into one doc file as a > preliminary preparation. > > > > Bleus > > > > --- > > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Ron wrote: > > I hope you have already saved the data posted here in the > > past few days. > > > > -- Ron > > > > > > The BlueSwapper wrote: > > > > > > Several NakTalkers have responded to the global NakTalker's database > > & map idea, and I'm seeing enough support for the idea to feel that > > coordinating and building a database of info to create a global > > reference map is feasible, worthwhile, and will be useful to the > > NakTalk membership as we continue to communicate. > > > > > > Fear not, a caveat will be that privacy of individuals will remain > > absolutely secure, and personal details (email address, home address, > > phone number, etc) will not be stored or accessed through the database. > > > > > > I will begin to formulate a project plan in the near future. > > Anyone who wishes to participate should share their thoughts on > > NakTalk, and/or contact me directly. Let's see where this takes us..... > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > K.J. Bleus > > > > > > --- > > > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > > > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > > > > > > --------- Forwarded Message --------- > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > > Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Sun Jan 19 22:27:08 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 08:27:08 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E69@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> My 482Z is with Stephen. It's his now, I sold it for parts. I remember the photograph of you on Bleus' Nakmarathon tape webpage, is the 482 you're standing next to? BTW is it dificult to add a door well light on the 480 series and BX300 units? Regards Tom. -----Original Message----- From: Salim Marzuki [mailto:smarzuki at indosat.net.id] Sent: Monday, 20 January 2003 2:04 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) Tom, ZX9 for U$100 !!! Don't you just looove those orange caps :-) :-) Interesting story indeed. Where's your 482Z now ? My 482 has rack handle, door well light and an op275 add-on, so I could use your Z meters .... =) Best regards, Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Siomopoulos To: 'naktalk at naks.com' Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 1:08 PM Subject: RE: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) SAY WHAT!!! You got a Dragon for FREE!!! Who is this wealthy family you know, I need to get in touch with them and hopefully they will do the same for me :) That's fantastic Alex, well done. A similar thing happened to me, a family I know gave me their Akai reel to reel, but somehow I feel it's not the same as what you received. Well here's my story. I live in Wantirna Victoria, in Australia (yes that's pretty much the butt end of the world). I've loved hifi gear since day one of my life. I was first introduced to Nakamichi gear from my friends brother. He had (and still does) a high end stereo setup consisting of Luxman amp/turntable, phase linear preamp and power amp, monster JBL speakers, and a Nakamichi 670ZX together with a Highcom II noise reduction unit. I fell in love with the tape deck immediately (just loved the blue lamps and the analog meters). I was stunned with the sound quality and the silent mechanism. Some years later (1989) he knew of a friend that was selling a BX300 for $300 Aus. I snapped it up a quickly as I could, he offered me to pay him bit by bit because I was in College at the time and did not have a lot of money. Sure I was not as attractive as the 670 but it was a NAK! I still own that unit, has not skipped a beat. Later I came across a 480 in a second hand audio shop for only $100. It needed a little work (replacement of lamps, clean here and there), but it sounded good for a two head unit. I bought it for two reasons, one - I love the analog meters, and two, I wanted to collect naks. Some time later I was offered a ZX9 for only $200 Aus. The cosmetics were 8 out of 10, and it had two faults. The first fault was a collapsed erase bias oscillator circuit, and the seconds was the left channel disappeared when recording with Dolby C. These faults were due to those bloody ORANGE CAPS! The faults have been repaired by me but thanks to the great Stephen Sank for the directions I needed. Later on another nak was offered to me, a 482Z. This unit was in bad shape, could not record, the mechanics were not good either. A trip to Mr Sank concluded that this poor little Nakkie had to be put down, but Mr Sank offered me a RX505 at a very decent price with a voltage conversion to 220/240 volts (God bless you Stephen :)) So there you have it my collection of naks from the bx300, zx9, 480 and finally the rx505. I hope I have not bored you to death. Regards Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Cagann [mailto:alex at autoconsortium.com] ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Sun Jan 19 22:29:37 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 08:29:37 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E6A@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Bleus, can you add to my info the following nick-naks. A HighcomII noise reduction system and a RM580R/T remote control unit. Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Siomopoulos Sent: Saturday, 18 January 2003 5:08 To: 'naktalk at naks.com' Subject: RE: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) SAY WHAT!!! You got a Dragon for FREE!!! Who is this wealthy family you know, I need to get in touch with them and hopefully they will do the same for me :) That's fantastic Alex, well done. A similar thing happened to me, a family I know gave me their Akai reel to reel, but somehow I feel it's not the same as what you received. Well here's my story. I live in Wantirna Victoria, in Australia (yes that's pretty much the butt end of the world). I've loved hifi gear since day one of my life. I was first introduced to Nakamichi gear from my friends brother. He had (and still does) a high end stereo setup consisting of Luxman amp/turntable, phase linear preamp and power amp, monster JBL speakers, and a Nakamichi 670ZX together with a Highcom II noise reduction unit. I fell in love with the tape deck immediately (just loved the blue lamps and the analog meters). I was stunned with the sound quality and the silent mechanism. Some years later (1989) he knew of a friend that was selling a BX300 for $300 Aus. I snapped it up a quickly as I could, he offered me to pay him bit by bit because I was in College at the time and did not have a lot of money. Sure I was not as attractive as the 670 but it was a NAK! I still own that unit, has not skipped a beat. Later I came across a 480 in a second hand audio shop for only $100. It needed a little work (replacement of lamps, clean here and there), but it sounded good for a two head unit. I bought it for two reasons, one - I love the analog meters, and two, I wanted to collect naks. Some time later I was offered a ZX9 for only $200 Aus. The cosmetics were 8 out of 10, and it had two faults. The first fault was a collapsed erase bias oscillator circuit, and the seconds was the left channel disappeared when recording with Dolby C. These faults were due to those bloody ORANGE CAPS! The faults have been repaired by me but thanks to the great Stephen Sank for the directions I needed. Later on another nak was offered to me, a 482Z. This unit was in bad shape, could not record, the mechanics were not good either. A trip to Mr Sank concluded that this poor little Nakkie had to be put down, but Mr Sank offered me a RX505 at a very decent price with a voltage conversion to 220/240 volts (God bless you Stephen :)) So there you have it my collection of naks from the bx300, zx9, 480 and finally the rx505. I hope I have not bored you to death. Regards Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Cagann [mailto:alex at autoconsortium.com] Sent: Saturday, 18 January 2003 2:32 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: RE: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > > I'd like to gather information from > > > NakTalkers to create a spatial database of who you are, where you > > > live, years you've collected Nak gear, decks you possess, et cetera. Hello Ol Joe. I live in Indianapolis, Indiana. Have lived here forever. I am 30 years old and have had a nak deck since I was 15. I was actually given a Nakamichi Dragon when I was 15. No, my parents didn't buy me one, they had neither the money nor the inclination for audio gear. I always loved audio gear but couldn't afford much at all. My friend's family was ultra wealthy. They had 3 dragons, a ton of Mac stuff, a ton of Luxman stuff, etc, etc. I got to know his parents quite well and often mentioned how much I loved their Nakamichi Dragons. They told me to take one! Damn...I'm not sure if that wasn't the happiest day of my life....being only 15 and getting a Dragon for free! I still have the deck and it has worked great for all these years. Stephen repaired it a couple years ago, some azimuth error and capstan motor tuning was needed. A year ago I bought an RX505 to compliment the Dragon. I got it on ebay for $350 and it looks like it was just pulled out of the box. The two magnificent Nak's completely dominate my audio system rack...damn Nak equipment is beautiful. I have no other Nakamichi equipment but I have talked my dad into putting a budget system together from ebay. I think he should opt for the LX5 deck and an OMS disc player. Also, Stephen, I think we are going to get one of your turntables....please email me about that as I lost your info. That's my story. I am enjoying reading the info on everyone...good idea Joe! I'm also very grateful for this list (thank you Wouter) because my friends/acquaintances/girlfriend could care less about discussing tape decks :-) Alex Cagann ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From wheijke at xs4all.nl Sun Jan 19 23:22:28 2003 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 23:22:28 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Orange cap manual by Kannan online! Message-ID: <3E2B2524.95E66498@xs4all.nl> Kannan wrote a great document on the Orange cap replacement! A few minutes ago i've converted it to html and placed it online for you all to look at: http://support.naks.com/orange/ I want to thank Kannan for this great (starting) contribution to this 'project' ! Also thanks to Fuad for sending pictures of his 700zxe orange cap replacement, i will add those to the site also, but have to think of a way to combine all these pictures and future pictures (that also i will be making of my soldering activity). I also want to encourage all who also have this 'orange cap' knowledge to look at the document and write additions that can be added or placed next to it.. i don't know yet, we can all decide and suggestions are welcome! Enjoy! Wouter From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Mon Jan 20 00:31:31 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 23:31:31 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning In-Reply-To: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E67@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Message-ID: <000201c2c012$e5909f80$f1b9193e@oemcomputer> Not that she's here at the moment, but I wish my wife would leave when I played my Nak ... > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Thomas Siomopoulos > Sent: 19 January 2003 21:17 > To: 'naktalk at naks.com' > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning > > > Yes István, you certainly are lucky to have such a wife. If I tried to get > my wife to listen to music played on a Nak for an hour, she would loose > interest very quickly, make some excuse, and leave :( > > Oh well. > > Tom Siomopoulos. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sándor István [mailto:sandorpistike at hotmail.com] > Sent: Monday, 20 January 2003 6:30 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning > > > Hello Tom, > I feel lucky also! She brought this RX505E because I won an > auction at ebay. > > The seller lives in Wien, and my wife had to go there because of other > arrangements to do. > She is very patient with me regarding my hobbies (I have some, eg. > motorbiking). > And she likes music also. She was impressed by the quality of > Naks, and she > does not ask why are they more expenyive as other second-hand machines. > > Have you ever tried to make your wife to listen to the music for at least > one hour? I think 1 hour is enough to convince wives. I am afraid > some of us > > has tried it for 10-20-30 years, and still no positive result. So I am > really lucky! > > István > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 From kannan_s at vsnl.com Mon Jan 20 06:01:56 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:31:56 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] Azimuth-tuning Message-ID: <20030120050156.5FABA114920@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From Mhugo at sunint.co.za Mon Jan 20 07:54:50 2003 From: Mhugo at sunint.co.za (Mark Hugo) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 08:54:50 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Rotel Cassette Decks(Yamaha and NAD) Message-ID: Hi Graham, Hope you have a good weekend. Yes, I think you are right about that; I have long had that suspicion. Yamaha and NAD seemed joined at the hip design wise, and Rotel was very similar to Yamaha as well. The three head dual cap NADs such as 6100 Monitor and 6300 Monitor looked vaguely similar (internally) to the Yamaha KX-630, but in in different clothing. Also the specialised manufacturing for cassette mechanisms and their sheer complexity necessitating large financial investments and staff training must have required a lot of "sharing" and "buying-in" for the smaller manufacturers. Cheers, Marc >>> graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk 01/17/03 10:23PM >>> > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Mark Hugo > Sent: 17 January 2003 08:12 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] Re: [naktalk] István > > > > They did in fact have a few cassette decks. I'm pretty sure they > outsourced the manufacture to someone else - but I could never > pin it down. I did woinder if there was a tie-in with Yamaha as they appeared to use similar "tone" controls. Gra' > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient/s. If you are not the intended recipient, you cannot use, copy, distribute, disclose or retain the email or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. 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URL: From mdevera at compuserve.com Mon Jan 20 17:46:14 2003 From: mdevera at compuserve.com (Mike deVera) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 08:46:14 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000b01c2c0a3$72432340$1901000a@c994264e> Mike deVera, San Jose, CA USA Nak CR7a Nak CR4a both Sankified. -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of The BlueSwapper Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 9:36 AM To: naktalk at naks.com Cc: blueswapper at angelfire.som.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) The initial response has given us already a global sense of NakTalk enthusiasts from around the world. Here's the short list of names and geographic locations as of today: Jim Volpatti, San Francisco, CA USA Ron ????, Boston Metro, MA USA Istvan ????, (Budapest???), Hungary Ken ????, Greensboro, NC USA Alex Cagann, Indianapolis, IN USA John M. Tooley, Milton, DE USA John Walker, Portland, England UK Graham Nelson, Liverpool Metro, England UK Maurits J. Raven, ????, Netherlands Rob Kent, San Franciso Metro, CA USA Isy Fidelman, Caracas, Venezuela Roland Alford, West Vancouver, BC Canada Tom Siomopoulos, Wantirna Victoria, Australia K.J. Bleus, Madison, WI USA Quality Assurance check - Now, did I overlook some others who have responded but are not yet portrayed on the short list above? Certainly other NakTalkers will want to be included, who might they be?? Email NakTalk or me directly. Let's see a diversity of geographic locations around the world, agreed??? Just let me know, I'll be working on the project database and maps mostly during coming winter month weekends. For now, peaceful regards! K.J. Bleus --- Help keep the blues alive! Got some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html --------- Forwarded Message --------- DATE: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 04:48:23 From: "The BlueSwapper" To: naktalk at naks.com Cc:blueswapper at angelfire.com Several NakTalkers have responded to the global NakTalker's database & map idea, and I'm seeing enough support for the idea to feel that coordinating and building a database of info to create a global reference map is feasible, worthwhile, and will be useful to the NakTalk membership as we continue to communicate. Fear not, a caveat will be that privacy of individuals will remain absolutely secure, and personal details (email address, home address, phone number, etc) will not be stored or accessed through the database. I will begin to formulate a project plan in the near future. Anyone who wishes to participate should share their thoughts on NakTalk, and/or contact me directly. Let's see where this takes us..... Regards, K.J. Bleus --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper --------- End Forwarded Message --------- ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From dorian.dyer at digit6.com Mon Jan 20 17:49:40 2003 From: dorian.dyer at digit6.com (Dorian Dyer) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:49:40 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] zx-7 owner's manual Message-ID: <001101c2c0a3$ed19d2d0$9501010a@ddyer1> Hello does anyone have a copy of this? Dorian Dyer DigitalEra Group LLC 4931 SW 75th Avenue Miami, FL 33155-4440 Tel: 305.668.6680 x106 Fax: 305.668.3150 Mobile: 305.206.3160 E-Mail: dorian.dyer at digit6.com www.digitaleragroup.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bjgrady at pacbell.net Mon Jan 20 19:27:08 2003 From: bjgrady at pacbell.net (John) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:27:08 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] OT: rubber reconditioner In-Reply-To: <000101c2bf31$67fc83e0$03299bca@smarzuki> Message-ID: <000001c2c0b1$8de95a20$5900a8c0@SUPPORT.RENTANAPT.COM> Well I have been a Yes fan most of my life. I'm 39. Remember hearing my step sister's copy of Close to the Edge back when I was in jr. high school. That was it. Been a fan ever since. Recently saw them at the Universal Ampatheater in Los Angeles a few months back. It was awesome. The whole original band including Rick Wakeman (spell?). Jon Anderson's voice sounds exactly the same as it did in the 70's. Recently purchased the Yes boxset from Rhino Records. It's not bad. It includes a good read. Cal John. -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of Salim Marzuki Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 12:09 PM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] OT: rubber reconditioner Thank you Roland and John for your suggestion and info. I have contacted several sites that show B&O belt but most of them were either already out of stock or prohibitively expensive. Anyway, I might be able to get one from Jeff. Pushing the OT further: any Yes / ELP fans on naktalk ? I'm enjoying old Yes 'tales of topographic ocean' record, and just bought Works Live cd ... but how come 'welcome back my friend' sounds terrible on both vinyl and cd ? Best regards, Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: Roland Alford To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 12:55 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] OT: rubber reconditioner Salim, Check out these two sites. If they don't ship direct, I'm sure one of our boys in the good ol' US of A wouldn't mind helping out in ordering it and shipping it to you. I wouldn't waste time with brittle rubber if fresh stuff is available. Perhaps get two and seal one in plastic for the future since they are getting rare I understand. --Roland http://www.19art.net/music/lp/belts.htm http://www.turntablebelts.com/bang.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: John M. Tooley To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] OT: rubber reconditioner I think I would email B&O in Denmark who hopefully could suggest some good soul in US who might still have some. John T. ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From hisself at ol-jim.com Mon Jan 20 22:48:41 2003 From: hisself at ol-jim.com (Ol' Jim, hisself) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:48:41 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Membership list In-Reply-To: <000201c2c012$e5909f80$f1b9193e@oemcomputer> References: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E67@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Message-ID: <3E2C2869.12882.FF6FD24@localhost> Please add to the list: Ol' Jim, hisself Central Florida, USA 2 BX-2s (both for sale) and a LX-5 Ol' Jim, hisself Enjoyin' the Space Coast of Florida hisself at ol-jim.com http://www.ol-jim.com An armed society is a polite society. From imemine2 at worldnet.att.net Mon Jan 20 22:52:55 2003 From: imemine2 at worldnet.att.net (J Chojnowski) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:52:55 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: <000b01c2c0a3$72432340$1901000a@c994264e> Message-ID: <3E2C6FB7.BEA5AEF7@worldnet.att.net> My name is Joe Chojnowski from Mercerville, New Jersey USA and I must admit that I have been lurking in silence but learning a lot. My first Nak was a new 581 back in 81 (has bad orange caps) and recently a 580 and RX-505. One day the RX-505 will get Sankified. joe C Mike deVera wrote: > > Mike deVera, San Jose, CA USA Nak CR7a Nak CR4a both Sankified. > > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > The BlueSwapper > Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 9:36 AM > To: naktalk at naks.com > Cc: blueswapper at angelfire.som.naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > The initial response has given us already a global sense of NakTalk > enthusiasts from around the world. Here's the short list of names and > geographic locations as of today: > > Jim Volpatti, San Francisco, CA USA > Ron ????, Boston Metro, MA USA > Istvan ????, (Budapest???), Hungary > Ken ????, Greensboro, NC USA > Alex Cagann, Indianapolis, IN USA > John M. Tooley, Milton, DE USA > John Walker, Portland, England UK > Graham Nelson, Liverpool Metro, England UK > Maurits J. Raven, ????, Netherlands > Rob Kent, San Franciso Metro, CA USA > Isy Fidelman, Caracas, Venezuela > Roland Alford, West Vancouver, BC Canada > Tom Siomopoulos, Wantirna Victoria, Australia > K.J. Bleus, Madison, WI USA > > Quality Assurance check - Now, did I overlook some others who have responded > but are not yet portrayed on the short list above? Certainly other > NakTalkers will want to be included, who might they be?? Email NakTalk or me > directly. Let's see a diversity of geographic locations around the world, > agreed??? > > Just let me know, I'll be working on the project database and maps mostly > during coming winter month weekends. For now, peaceful regards! > > K.J. Bleus > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Got some??? > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html > > --------- Forwarded Message --------- > > DATE: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 04:48:23 > From: "The BlueSwapper" > To: naktalk at naks.com > Cc:blueswapper at angelfire.com > Several NakTalkers have responded to the global NakTalker's database & map > idea, and I'm seeing enough support for the idea to feel that coordinating > and building a database of info to create a global reference map is > feasible, worthwhile, and will be useful to the NakTalk membership as we > continue to communicate. > > Fear not, a caveat will be that privacy of individuals will remain > absolutely secure, and personal details (email address, home address, phone > number, etc) will not be stored or accessed through the database. > > I will begin to formulate a project plan in the near future. Anyone who > wishes to participate should share their thoughts on NakTalk, and/or contact > me directly. Let's see where this takes us..... > > Regards, > > K.J. Bleus > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > > --------- End Forwarded Message --------- > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From m.raven at chello.nl Tue Jan 21 01:07:46 2003 From: m.raven at chello.nl (Maurits) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 01:07:46 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: <000b01c2c0a3$72432340$1901000a@c994264e> Message-ID: <020201c2c0e1$20de2840$9e3cbbd4@raveneql1a1eu0> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike deVera" To: > Just let me know, I'll be working on the project database and maps mostly > during coming winter month weekends. For now, peaceful regards! ` Why? We enjoy the good work of Wouter, the initiator of NAKS.COM. I don't see the reason to get databased anyfurther than this now. Maurits From blueswapper at angelfire.com Tue Jan 21 01:12:35 2003 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:12:35 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In A Global Sense) Salim, et al Message-ID: Got you this time, Salim! I just vaguely recollect seeing your email in an earlier NakTalk Digest. Now we've got you on the list! Also, received several other individuals emails off-line , which will be included in our NakTalk global database. Growing fast now..... Cheers! Bleus --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus From ezio_lucenti at tin.it Tue Jan 21 03:29:32 2003 From: ezio_lucenti at tin.it (Ezio) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 03:29:32 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) In-Reply-To: <020201c2c0e1$20de2840$9e3cbbd4@raveneql1a1eu0> References: <000b01c2c0a3$72432340$1901000a@c994264e> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030121030627.00a7d660@box.tin.it> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kannan_s at vsnl.com Tue Jan 21 07:19:15 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 11:49:15 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) Message-ID: <20030121061915.5F33F114A20@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Tue Jan 21 07:56:48 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:56:48 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: <20030121061915.5F33F114A20@webmail.vsnl.com> Message-ID: <004f01c2c11a$45706720$52299bca@smarzuki> Probably Kohno got his own version of naktalk there =) He mention Wouter's great Nak page on his site - is he a member of naktalk ? Ezio, great picture page ! Is that you in one of the pics ? Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: kannan_s at vsnl.com To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) Ezio You are living in one of the few great cities of the world! Very interetsing to note that we do not have anybody from Japan - the birth place of Naks! Kannan ezio_lucenti at tin.it wrote Hi my friends , I am Ezio and I am 47 . 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URL: From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Tue Jan 21 08:15:28 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 07:15:28 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) In-Reply-To: <20030121061915.5F33F114A20@webmail.vsnl.com> Message-ID: <002601c2c11c$e085b7e0$11d0193e@oemcomputer> Kannan observed: > Very interetsing to note that we do not have anybody from Japan - > the birth place of Naks! > I was thinking exactly the same thing. (Great minds think a like!) It is interesting that what the Japanese make, they don't always buy themselves and that they buy is often not Japanese. For example, one of the reasons that Garrard 301 and 401 record decks sell at such a premium price is because Japanese enthusiasts, more than anywhere else in the World cherish them. Thus, I am wondering if Nakamichi cassette decks are ... were ... the first choice of the hi fi enthusiast ... 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Forget the Naks, I could only afford the low-end Akai CS-F11then. On a trip to Japan in 1989 I bought an A&D GX-Z9000 (same as Akai GX-8) and got only the brochures of Dragon/CR-70 decks (still too expensive). And then I discovered cassette-decks on e-bay, which eventually lead me to naktalk. I collected a bunch of decks, including a 700zxe (orange-caps recently replaced), a Dragon and not to mention a couple of GX-F90's. Other stuff include an Aiwa XK-S9000, Pioneer CT-A9, Sony TC-177SD (another old time favourite) and a Sony DTC-ZA5 DAT deck. Regards, _Fuad >>>>>>>>> Kannan wrote a great document on the Orange cap replacement! A few minutes ago i've converted it to html and placed it online for you all to look at: http://support.naks.com/orange/ I want to thank Kannan for this great (starting) contribution to this 'project' ! Also thanks to Fuad for sending pictures of his 700zxe orange cap replacement, i will add those to the site also, but have to think of a way to combine all these pictures and future pictures (that also i will be making of my soldering activity). I also want to encourage all who also have this 'orange cap' knowledge to look at the document and write additions that can be added or placed next to it.. i don't know yet, we can all decide and suggestions are welcome! Enjoy! Wouter From emte at mail.md Tue Jan 21 10:24:12 2003 From: emte at mail.md (marin turea) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 11:24:12 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) Message-ID: <200301210924.h0L9OC102175@ad.md> Hello everybody. Bleus, now if you had this great inspiration of making a map of the global nakophilia, how about adding a preamble: "Naktalk -how it all started" by Wouter Heijke. All these years i was curious WHEN and HOW it all started (details, details!). Personally, i joined the list after that article in Stereophile, really can't remember the year. But i do remember Tom Bergman, for example, a generous contributor when i jumped in. he left the list quite some time ago. Wouter, what do you say about prefacing Bleus' map? All my sympathy to all of you. +++ Marin - enjoying the -talk whatever it is about. ps: me also can't undestand how come no one from Japan is among us... ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Got you this time, Salim! I just vaguely recollect seeing your > email in an earlier NakTalk Digest. Now we've got you on the list! > > Also, received several other individuals emails off-line , which will be included in our NakTalk global database. Growing fast now..... > > Cheers! > > Bleus > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > > > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ___________________________________________ Get your free mail box @ http://www.mail.md From m.raven at chello.nl Tue Jan 21 12:51:53 2003 From: m.raven at chello.nl (Maurits) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 12:51:53 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] My tape story References: <200301210422_MC3-1-25A9-D9D2@compuserve.com> Message-ID: <033401c2c143$7dbe7a80$9e3cbbd4@raveneql1a1eu0> Started the 1st battery powered mono from Philips, Eindhoven. They invented the musiccassette because open reel and the big US based where not so succesfull for the ordinary people. In 1971 I bought an Revox A77, 2 track 9/5/19 cm/s. Sold it to a musican and bought a 2nd hand LX-5 in mint condition. It's not very much in use, however. Maurits From wheijke at xs4all.nl Tue Jan 21 12:27:22 2003 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (wheijke at xs4all.nl) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 12:27:22 +0100 (CET) Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) In-Reply-To: <200301210924.h0L9OC102175@ad.md> References: <200301210924.h0L9OC102175@ad.md> Message-ID: <4877.62.72.223.42.1043148442.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> Hi Marin / Everyone, You must be a long-time member since you remember these 2 things: -Stereophile article (http://www.stereophile.com/shownews.cgi?231) -Tom Bergman...haven't heared from him for a while, just send him an email! But the site has been there for more then 5 years! Reading the 'news' page tells a lot about the history. It started as a part on my personal homepage where i placed a picture of my just aquired first Nak, a 582, followed shortly by pictures of more Naks i bought and wanted to buy... Looking on the web i couldn't find anything about this part of Nakamichi history so i started to add more and more decks, scanned from the small 'product overview' brochures i owned also adding specifications. More later i started a dedicated homepage at Geocities... that is when the news page starts: "Sep 24 1997 Created and installed the pages.", naktalk started a bit later: "Feb 25 1998 Start of the Nakamichi (naktalk) mailinglist". So Stereophile were there quite early when they published their article.. Wouter (Amsterdam, The Netherlands, most proud of my: 1000ZXL/700ZXE/ZX7/ZX9/680ZX/Dragon) > Hello everybody. > Bleus, now if you had this great inspiration of making a map > of the global nakophilia, how about adding a preamble: "Naktalk -how it > all started" by Wouter Heijke. All these years i was > curious WHEN and HOW it all started (details, details!). Personally, i > joined the list after that article in Stereophile, really can't remember > the year. But i do remember Tom Bergman, for example, a generous > contributor when i jumped in. he left the list quite some time ago. > > Wouter, what do you say about prefacing Bleus' map? > > All my sympathy > to all of you. > > +++ > Marin - enjoying the -talk whatever it is about. > > ps: me also can't undestand how > come no one from Japan is among us... > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > >> Got you this time, Salim! I just vaguely recollect seeing your >> email in an earlier NakTalk Digest. Now we've got you on the list! >> >> Also, received several other individuals emails off-line , which will be >> included in our NakTalk global database. Growing fast now..... >> >> Cheers! >> >> Bleus >> >> --- >> Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? >> http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper >> >> >> >> --- >> Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? >> http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! >> Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus >> ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >> To maintain your account please go here: >> http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >> >> > > > ___________________________________________ > Get your free mail box @ http://www.mail.md > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > From lklein4 at ameritech.net Tue Jan 21 15:47:16 2003 From: lklein4 at ameritech.net (John Klein) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 09:47:16 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Cassette Deck 1 Message-ID: <001301c2c15b$fe1e0480$6601a8c0@hp> My brother recently gave me his "old" Nak Cassette Deck 1. I have been playing with it for several days now and am quite happy with its performance. Is there anything I should be aware of or careful of with this unit. How does it compare to other Nak decks for performance etc. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ztiller at hotmail.com Tue Jan 21 16:15:22 2003 From: ztiller at hotmail.com (Robert Zabokrtsky) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 10:15:22 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Brochures & Service Manuals on Naks.com Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Mhugo at sunint.co.za Tue Jan 21 16:13:42 2003 From: Mhugo at sunint.co.za (Mark Hugo) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 17:13:42 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Cassette Deck 1 Message-ID: I have a Cassette Deck One, and I enjoy it thoroughly. I had to replace the substandard Masushita capstan motor on it when I got it, but apart from that it is an excellent recorder and especially playback machine, due to the manual PB azimuth adjustment. The Cassette Deck series have a particularly natural, uncoloured tonality. Physically, it has a better than average resistance to scratches/abrasions, not that one should test this on a Nak or anyone else important in your life! Compared with other Naks? In my personal experience, it is less analytical than the 480Z, but has a more cohesive and powerful sound, particularly in the bass. The 682 ZX pips it slightly with better frequency extremes, more noticable in the treble, but only really noticable if you have a critical ear and demanding music. Use good tape stock with it, and preferably new tapes for recording. TDK MA, SA and SA-X would be my favourites with this deck, calibration - wise. No problems however will be encountered using Maxell XLII, indeed it's close to SA-X for deamnding classical and jazz pieces. Good luck with your new Cass Deck 1. Marc >>> lklein4 at ameritech.net 01/21/03 04:47PM >>> My brother recently gave me his "old" Nak Cassette Deck 1. I have been playing with it for several days now and am quite happy with its performance. Is there anything I should be aware of or careful of with this unit. How does it compare to other Nak decks for performance etc. The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient/s. If you are not the intended recipient, you cannot use, copy, distribute, disclose or retain the email or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying to this message and to permanently delete it and all attachments from your computer. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present in this email and the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. From sandorpistike at hotmail.com Tue Jan 21 16:25:18 2003 From: sandorpistike at hotmail.com (Sndor Istvn) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 16:25:18 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Brochures & Service Manuals on Naks.com Message-ID: Hello Robert, here you are: http://support.naks.com/support Istv�n >From: "Robert Zabokrtsky" >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: [naktalk] Brochures & Service Manuals on Naks.com >Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 10:15:22 -0500 > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Robert Zabokrtsky" Subject: [naktalk] Brochures & Service Manuals on Naks.com Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 10:15:22 -0500 Size: 3205 URL: From lklein4 at ameritech.net Tue Jan 21 17:47:52 2003 From: lklein4 at ameritech.net (John Klein) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 11:47:52 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Cassette Deck 1 References: Message-ID: <001201c2c16c$d75536f0$6601a8c0@hp> thanks for your reply... I ordered Maxell MX-S, XL-IIS and MS-90 to try with this unit. So far-so good...haven't decided which I like the best. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Hugo" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Cassette Deck 1 > I have a Cassette Deck One, and I enjoy it thoroughly. I had to replace the substandard Masushita capstan motor on it when I got it, but apart from that it is an excellent recorder and especially playback machine, due to the manual PB azimuth adjustment. > > The Cassette Deck series have a particularly natural, uncoloured tonality. Physically, it has a better than average resistance to scratches/abrasions, not that one should test this on a Nak or anyone else important in your life! > > Compared with other Naks? In my personal experience, it is less analytical than the 480Z, but has a more cohesive and powerful sound, particularly in the bass. The 682 ZX pips it slightly with better frequency extremes, more noticable in the treble, but only really noticable if you have a critical ear and demanding music. > > Use good tape stock with it, and preferably new tapes for recording. TDK MA, SA and SA-X would be my favourites with this deck, calibration - wise. No problems however will be encountered using Maxell XLII, indeed it's close to SA-X for deamnding classical and jazz pieces. > > Good luck with your new Cass Deck 1. > > Marc > > > >>> lklein4 at ameritech.net 01/21/03 04:47PM >>> > My brother recently gave me his "old" Nak Cassette Deck 1. I have been playing with it for several days now and am quite happy with its performance. Is there anything I should be aware of or careful of with this unit. How does it compare to other Nak decks for performance etc. > > The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject > to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more > attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the > named recipient/s. > > If you are not the intended recipient, you cannot use, copy, distribute, disclose > or retain the email or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. > If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying to > this message and to permanently delete it and all attachments from your computer. > > All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present > in this email and the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising > from the use of this email or attachments. > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Tue Jan 21 18:35:48 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 00:35:48 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E69@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Message-ID: <007a01c2c173$cee35540$70299bca@smarzuki> Tom, sorry for the late response ! Yes that was the 482 next to me .. my entry to the world of 'real nak'. It's not difficult to install the well light, just connect the 6V (12?) bulb in parallel to meter light, the only important thing is to get the angle right so that it won't light up back of cassette =) I also added another meter light in the middle of the long 'bar'. So many bulbs and much time to kill I believe ... I was also thinking of adding backlight to BX well, but we need to cut a hole in the middle of plate and I can only imagine the messy amateurish work of me there ! I just replaced a lamp on CR5 and it seems easy to add BX lamp as the 12V connection is already provided on the motor pcb back there. Good luck ! Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Siomopoulos To: 'naktalk at naks.com' Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 4:27 AM Subject: RE: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) My 482Z is with Stephen. It's his now, I sold it for parts. I remember the photograph of you on Bleus' Nakmarathon tape webpage, is the 482 you're standing next to? BTW is it dificult to add a door well light on the 480 series and BX300 units? Regards Tom. -----Original Message----- From: Salim Marzuki [mailto:smarzuki at indosat.net.id] From sandorpistike at hotmail.com Tue Jan 21 19:34:11 2003 From: sandorpistike at hotmail.com (Sndor Istvn) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 19:34:11 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Support-page Message-ID: Hello all, something bad happened to the support-page? I cannot reach it, the name/password dragon/dragon does not work. Has anything changed, or I simpli forget something? Thank you in advance for your answer. Istv�n _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From kannan_s at vsnl.com Tue Jan 21 19:48:54 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 00:18:54 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] Re: Regarding Directors Loan - From Saga Message-ID: <20030121184854.CCB5111492A@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From kannan_s at vsnl.com Tue Jan 21 19:58:42 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 00:28:42 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] Sorry for the directing my office mails to Naktalk Message-ID: <20030121185842.43D7A114911@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Tue Jan 21 20:06:55 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 19:06:55 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 versus Revox B-215 In-Reply-To: <004f01c2c11a$45706720$52299bca@smarzuki> Message-ID: <002701c2c180$43765b80$11d0193e@oemcomputer> The Revox has just arrived ... and there's gonna be a fight! Revox looks in reasonable condition nick except the glass cover for the recording level meter appears to have been broken in transit. Otherwise, not as smart as the ZX-9. I'll post my subjective findings once I've had a chance to settle the new arrival in. However, initial listening suggests ... the Revox replays Dolby C recordings made on the ZX-9 BETTER than on the ZX-9 - seemingly clearer sound, slightly more detail ... More later ... Gra' --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From imemine2 at worldnet.att.net Tue Jan 21 20:59:39 2003 From: imemine2 at worldnet.att.net (J Chojnowski) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 14:59:39 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Support-page References: Message-ID: <3E2DA6AB.4159F2E3@worldnet.att.net> Istvan: The name is wrong, password correct, use naktalk for name joe C "S�ndor Istv�n" wrote: Hello all, something bad happened to the support-page? I cannot reach it, the name/password dragon/dragon does not work. From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Tue Jan 21 22:24:20 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 21:24:20 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 versus Revox B-215 In-Reply-To: <002701c2c180$43765b80$11d0193e@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <003d01c2c193$760b4ac0$11d0193e@oemcomputer> Had more time to compare. I'm thinking the ReVox may need a service. That's not to say it sounds bad - it doesn't. However, what I first thought was "seemingly clearer sound, slightly more detail ..." now appears to be a sight lift in treble. What did I do? I played a CD and recorded only both Revox and ZX-9, then replayed switching between both decks and the original CD. Yes, this isn't very scientific, I know! It's just subjective. Even so ... This is NOT what I expected! Indeed, I found the recording made on the ZX-9 sounded (to my ear) to be closer to the original than the recording on the B-215. BTW, I was using TDK SA and Dolby C encoding. Bare in mind, according to the guy I bought it off, the ZX-9 is not a standard "factory tuned" model but had been modified when it was last serviced by Transtec. I shall now have the ReVox serviced and see if that makes any difference. Gra' -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of Graham Nelson Sent: 21 January 2003 19:07 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 versus Revox B-215 The Revox has just arrived ... and there's gonna be a fight! Revox looks in reasonable condition nick except the glass cover for the recording level meter appears to have been broken in transit. Otherwise, not as smart as the ZX-9. I'll post my subjective findings once I've had a chance to settle the new arrival in. However, initial listening suggests ... the Revox replays Dolby C recordings made on the ZX-9 BETTER than on the ZX-9 - seemingly clearer sound, slightly more detail ... More later ... Gra' --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Modernizy at netscape.net Tue Jan 21 22:31:00 2003 From: Modernizy at netscape.net (Nick) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 16:31:00 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) Message-ID: <3B4F37B0.50CA3FDA.026D48C1@netscape.net> Hello, Mr.Blues and other Naktalkers, Please forgive me for being one of the last in the queue for Naktalk database... Nicholas Gornostayev, 32, Moscow, The Russian Federation. My Nak collection is not large but tasty: 700TriTracer, CR-7, ZX-9, NR-200, & T-100 + a small gadget called DM-10. With the very best wishes to all Naktalkers all over the world, Nicholas. __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ From jvolpatti at earthlink.net Tue Jan 21 23:54:33 2003 From: jvolpatti at earthlink.net (Jim Volpatti) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 14:54:33 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: <3B4F37B0.50CA3FDA.026D48C1@netscape.net> Message-ID: <3E2DCFA8.B4664152@earthlink.net> I've been surprised to learn that you guys are younger than I expected. Not that it matters, but I expected most of you to be in your 50s and possibly 60s. Seems that most of us are in our 30s and 40s. Interesting. I had one more idea for the data base. I'd love to have a face to go with the names of all you NakTalkers. Is there any interest in uploading a photo of each NakTalker, taken with his beloved Nakamichi equipment? I realize this could create a bandwidth issue for KJ and the database but I thought I would throw the idea out to you and see what you think. Jim Volpatti Nakless in San Francisco Nick wrote: > Hello, Mr.Blues and other Naktalkers, > > Please forgive me for being one of the last in the queue for Naktalk database... > > Nicholas Gornostayev, 32, Moscow, The Russian Federation. > > My Nak collection is not large but tasty: 700TriTracer, CR-7, ZX-9, NR-200, & T-100 + a small gadget called DM-10. > > With the very best wishes to all Naktalkers all over the world, > > Nicholas. > > __________________________________________________________________ > The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Wed Jan 22 00:02:56 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 10:02:56 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E81@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Jim I think KJ has some of our photos on his website. The address is http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/nakmarathon.html If you see my photo just keep any young ones away, they may have nightmares :) Regards Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Volpatti [mailto:jvolpatti at earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, 22 January 2003 9:55 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) I've been surprised to learn that you guys are younger than I expected. Not that it matters, but I expected most of you to be in your 50s and possibly 60s. Seems that most of us are in our 30s and 40s. Interesting. I had one more idea for the data base. I'd love to have a face to go with the names of all you NakTalkers. Is there any interest in uploading a photo of each NakTalker, taken with his beloved Nakamichi equipment? I realize this could create a bandwidth issue for KJ and the database but I thought I would throw the idea out to you and see what you think. Jim Volpatti Nakless in San Francisco Nick wrote: > Hello, Mr.Blues and other Naktalkers, > > Please forgive me for being one of the last in the queue for Naktalk database... > > Nicholas Gornostayev, 32, Moscow, The Russian Federation. > > My Nak collection is not large but tasty: 700TriTracer, CR-7, ZX-9, NR-200, & T-100 + a small gadget called DM-10. > > With the very best wishes to all Naktalkers all over the world, > > Nicholas. > > __________________________________________________________________ > The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From jvolpatti at earthlink.net Wed Jan 22 00:11:22 2003 From: jvolpatti at earthlink.net (Jim Volpatti) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 15:11:22 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E81@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Message-ID: <3E2DD39A.4F91D98C@earthlink.net> LOL Great. Maybe KJ could include those photos with the database. Anyone interested in adding theirs? Jim Volpatti Thomas Siomopoulos wrote: > Jim I think KJ has some of our photos on his website. The address is > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/nakmarathon.html > > If you see my photo just keep any young ones away, they may have > nightmares :) > > Regards Tom Siomopoulos. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Volpatti [mailto:jvolpatti at earthlink.net] > Sent: Wednesday, 22 January 2003 9:55 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > I've been surprised to learn that you guys are younger than I expected. Not > that it matters, but I expected most of > you to be in your 50s and possibly 60s. Seems that most of us are in our 30s > and 40s. Interesting. > > I had one more idea for the data base. I'd love to have a face to go with > the names of all you NakTalkers. Is there > any interest in uploading a photo of each NakTalker, taken with his beloved > Nakamichi equipment? I realize this could > create a bandwidth issue for KJ and the database but I thought I would throw > the idea out to you and see what you > think. > > Jim Volpatti > Nakless in San Francisco From vvinodk at hotmail.com Wed Jan 22 04:06:35 2003 From: vvinodk at hotmail.com (Vinod Kumar) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 03:06:35 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) Message-ID: Looks like I'm the last one... Dragon, ZXE, CA1, PA1, RM-20, SP7, DM10 Vinod >From: Modernizy at netscape.net (Nick) >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) >Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 16:31:00 -0500 > >Hello, Mr.Blues and other Naktalkers, > >Please forgive me for being one of the last in the queue for Naktalk >database... > >Nicholas Gornostayev, 32, Moscow, The Russian Federation. > >My Nak collection is not large but tasty: 700TriTracer, CR-7, ZX-9, NR-200, >& T-100 + a small gadget called DM-10. > >With the very best wishes to all Naktalkers all over the world, > >Nicholas. > >__________________________________________________________________ >The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! >http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp > >Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at >http://webmail.netscape.com/ >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From bgdickel at paradise.net.nz Wed Jan 22 05:26:50 2003 From: bgdickel at paradise.net.nz (Brett Dickel) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 17:26:50 +1300 Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030122172547.02163540@pop3.paradise.net.nz> I might be the last: CR-7 and residing in Dunedin, New Zealand. At 03:06 22/01/03 +0000, you wrote: >Looks like I'm the last one... > >Dragon, ZXE, CA1, PA1, RM-20, SP7, DM10 > >Vinod > > >>From: Modernizy at netscape.net (Nick) >>Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >>To: naktalk at naks.com >>Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) >>Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 16:31:00 -0500 >> >>Hello, Mr.Blues and other Naktalkers, >> >>Please forgive me for being one of the last in the queue for Naktalk >>database... >> >>Nicholas Gornostayev, 32, Moscow, The Russian Federation. >> >>My Nak collection is not large but tasty: 700TriTracer, CR-7, ZX-9, >>NR-200, & T-100 + a small gadget called DM-10. >> >>With the very best wishes to all Naktalkers all over the world, >> >>Nicholas. >> >>__________________________________________________________________ >>The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! >>http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp >> >>Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at >>http://webmail.netscape.com/ >>========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >>To maintain your account please go here: >>http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >>========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > bgdickel at paradise.net.nz http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/bgdickel/brett.htm From kannan_s at vsnl.com Wed Jan 22 05:56:52 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 10:26:52 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense Message-ID: <20030122045652.C16751149CC@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From Mhugo at sunint.co.za Wed Jan 22 09:10:07 2003 From: Mhugo at sunint.co.za (Mark Hugo) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 10:10:07 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense)Data for KJ Bleus Message-ID: Hi Mr Blues, Herewith information for your database. I am Marc Hugo, 44, an HR Manager for two Casino and Hotel resorts (Thaba Nchu Sun and Naledi Sun). It is in the Free State Province in South Africa. I live on site at Thaba Nchu Sun. Geographically, the exact position is: 29 degrees 17 minutes 0 seconds East 26 degrees 53 minutes 1 second South Physically, it is 65 km east of Bloemfontein on the N8 to Lesotho. For naktalkers who might be in the area, it's well worth a visit and features a beautiful hotel, elegant casino, African plains/mountain scenery/lake and a superb game reserve. However all nakkers are personally invited to stay with me ..... much more festive and of course better music!! My first component cassette deck was an Alpage AL-50, which I have to this day. I recorded music from FM radio and LPs borrowed from a commercial record library. This deck was and remains a very nice sounding deck with superb metering and a rock solid transport, albeit single capstan. Amongst other cassette decks (Pioneer, TASCAM, Aiwa, NAD, JVC, Technics etc) I have three Naks - they are, in order of acquisition: 1. Cassette Deck 1 Nov 2000 (immaculate in every respect) 2. 682 ZX /RM 200 April 2001 (very low km, swopped for a well used but clean CR-4) 3. 480Z August 2002 (very nice, blemish free condition) In the last year, I have been more concerned with developing a good stock of blank cassette media, having noticed that decent tapes are disappearing faster from the shelves than are the availability of good second-hand cassette decks. I have experimented both with CD-R, Minidisc and DCC, but for various reasons remain committed to the cassette medium and intend to be so into the future. Thanks Mr Blues - if there's anything else you need, just say so. Regards, Marc The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient/s. If you are not the intended recipient, you cannot use, copy, distribute, disclose or retain the email or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying to this message and to permanently delete it and all attachments from your computer. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present in this email and the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. From nicy at ya.com Wed Jan 22 10:11:05 2003 From: nicy at ya.com (JGascon) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 10:11:05 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030122172547.02163540@pop3.paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: <001c01c2c1f6$32144520$8f2b3b50@PcComunero> These are my details for the database: I live in Spain and I think I´m the only Naktalker here. I have owned a Dragon, CR-7E, CR-2E, CR-5E and DR-2E. Now my only Nak is a CR-4E and I´m thinking of purchasin a ZX-7 or ZX-9. Javier. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brett Dickel" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 5:26 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) > I might be the last: > > CR-7 > > and residing in Dunedin, New Zealand. > > > At 03:06 22/01/03 +0000, you wrote: > > >Looks like I'm the last one... > > > >Dragon, ZXE, CA1, PA1, RM-20, SP7, DM10 > > > >Vinod > > > > > >>From: Modernizy at netscape.net (Nick) > >>Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com > >>To: naktalk at naks.com > >>Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) > >>Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 16:31:00 -0500 > >> > >>Hello, Mr.Blues and other Naktalkers, > >> > >>Please forgive me for being one of the last in the queue for Naktalk > >>database... > >> > >>Nicholas Gornostayev, 32, Moscow, The Russian Federation. > >> > >>My Nak collection is not large but tasty: 700TriTracer, CR-7, ZX-9, > >>NR-200, & T-100 + a small gadget called DM-10. > >> > >>With the very best wishes to all Naktalkers all over the world, > >> > >>Nicholas. > >> > >>__________________________________________________________________ > >>The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! > >>http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp > >> > >>Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at > >>http://webmail.netscape.com/ > >>========------------------------------------------------------------------ ========= > >> Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > >>To maintain your account please go here: > >>http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >>========------------------------------------------------------------------ ========= > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > >To maintain your account please go here: > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > > > > > > bgdickel at paradise.net.nz > http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/bgdickel/brett.htm > From lklein4 at ameritech.net Wed Jan 22 12:39:14 2003 From: lklein4 at ameritech.net (John Klein) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 06:39:14 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense)Data for KJ Bleus References: Message-ID: <000e01c2c20a$e3d761c0$6601a8c0@hp> Mr. Blues There are several sites on the internet that are sources of cassette tapes. I have found https://www.totalmedia.com to be particularly usefull John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Hugo" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 3:10 AM Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense)Data for KJ Bleus > Hi Mr Blues, > > Herewith information for your database. > > I am Marc Hugo, 44, an HR Manager for two Casino and Hotel resorts (Thaba Nchu Sun and Naledi Sun). It is in the Free State Province in South Africa. > > I live on site at Thaba Nchu Sun. Geographically, the exact position is: > > 29 degrees 17 minutes 0 seconds East > 26 degrees 53 minutes 1 second South > > Physically, it is 65 km east of Bloemfontein on the N8 to Lesotho. For naktalkers who might be in the area, it's well worth a visit and features a beautiful hotel, elegant casino, African plains/mountain scenery/lake and a superb game reserve. However all nakkers are personally invited to stay with me ..... much more festive and of course better music!! > > My first component cassette deck was an Alpage AL-50, which I have to this day. I recorded music from FM radio and LPs borrowed from a commercial record library. This deck was and remains a very nice sounding deck with superb metering and a rock solid transport, albeit single capstan. > > Amongst other cassette decks (Pioneer, TASCAM, Aiwa, NAD, JVC, Technics etc) I have three Naks - they are, in order of acquisition: > > 1. Cassette Deck 1 Nov 2000 (immaculate in every respect) > 2. 682 ZX /RM 200 April 2001 (very low km, swopped for a well used but clean CR-4) > 3. 480Z August 2002 (very nice, blemish free condition) > > In the last year, I have been more concerned with developing a good stock of blank cassette media, having noticed that decent tapes are disappearing faster from the shelves than are the availability of good second-hand cassette decks. > > I have experimented both with CD-R, Minidisc and DCC, but for various reasons remain committed to the cassette medium and intend to be so into the future. > > Thanks Mr Blues - if there's anything else you need, just say so. > > Regards, > > Marc > > > > > The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject > to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more > attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the > named recipient/s. > > If you are not the intended recipient, you cannot use, copy, distribute, disclose > or retain the email or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. > If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying to > this message and to permanently delete it and all attachments from your computer. > > All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present > in this email and the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising > from the use of this email or attachments. > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From lklein4 at ameritech.net Wed Jan 22 12:47:39 2003 From: lklein4 at ameritech.net (John Klein) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 06:47:39 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Mark Hugo - purchasing cassettes Message-ID: <001701c2c20c$109f0bd0$6601a8c0@hp> Mark, You can find sources of tapes on the internet. One of the vendors that i have found usefull is https://www.totalmedia.com, I recently was given a Cassette Deck 1 by my brother....it is a marvelous machine. John Klein -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lklein4 at ameritech.net Wed Jan 22 12:50:58 2003 From: lklein4 at ameritech.net (John Klein) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 06:50:58 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Mark Hugo Message-ID: <002401c2c20c$87860aa0$6601a8c0@hp> There are several vendors for cassette tapes on the internet. One that I have found usefull is called totalmedia.com. I also have a Cassette Deck 1, it is a wonderful unit. John Klein -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.soulantikas at chello.nl Wed Jan 22 13:23:04 2003 From: j.soulantikas at chello.nl (Jannis) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 13:23:04 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] In a global sense Message-ID: <001c01c2c211$0334f4f0$57c33850@computer1> Ok here i am I come from Greece. I live in Holland (26 km, from the Dutch Naks guru, mr.Ton van der Hof , (lucky me). I own a 582, BX -300, CR-4 and two CR-7 (one is without remote control). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roy.svensson at hdk.gu.se Wed Jan 22 14:45:47 2003 From: roy.svensson at hdk.gu.se (roy.svensson at hdk.gu.se) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 14:45:47 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense)Data for KJ Bleus In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3E2EAE9B.31007.BA0B7A9@localhost> Hello Mr. Bleus and all Naktalkers Here is one more! My name is Roy Svensson, I am 55 years old, and I live in Goteborg, Sweden. I bought my 700tri tracer new in 1976 and still have it, in later years I have added a dragon, a 581 and a BX 125. Roy From pasec at relex.ru Wed Jan 22 15:23:48 2003 From: pasec at relex.ru (Pavel V. Pasechnik) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 17:23:48 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] Maxell MS tapes References: <3E2EAE9B.31007.BA0B7A9@localhost> Message-ID: <015401c2c221$e139dc10$e405a8c0@relex.ru> Hi, All! Does anybody use Maxell MS cassettes? Pavel. From vzimakov at mtu-net.ru Wed Jan 22 16:21:23 2003 From: vzimakov at mtu-net.ru (Vladimir) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 18:21:23 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense)Data for KJ Bleus Message-ID: <1764.030122@mtu-net.ru> Hello Nak Talkers I also want to participate in the Database. Vladimir Zimakov, 36 years old, Moscow, Russia My lifetime Nakamichies since 1989 DRAGON (was bought new) CR-7 (sold, was bought new) 1000-II (used) ZX-9 (used,under restoration (orange caps) nowdays) I also owned and tested and repaired other models : 480,482,582,600,670,700 Tri Tracer,DR-2,LX-3,LX-5,BX1,BX2,BX100,BX125,BX150,DR series . In my opinion Best sounding machines: 1000 (II), 700 (II). Best ergonomic and features: DRAGON Best design: bulletproof Revox B710. (-: Best regards, Vladimir mailto:vzimakov at mtu-net.ru From ra.ah at rcn.com Wed Jan 22 16:56:17 2003 From: ra.ah at rcn.com (Ron) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 10:56:17 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Orange cap manual by Kannan online! References: <200301210422_MC3-1-25A9-D9D2@compuserve.com> Message-ID: <3E2EBF21.EFD61A7F@rcn.com> Very well done article by Kannan. I have a question for those that have suffered from (and conquered) the Orange Cap Disease. What is the failure mode of the capacitors? Do they slowly develop the problem over time, ot do they abruptly fail one fine day? IOW, does it make sense to forestall the disease by simply replacing every orange cap in the deck, once and for all, or is it safe to wait for a problem to develop, knowing that all is fine as long as no problem is apparent? -- Ron Compudude wrote: > > Orange cap manual by Kannan is very nicely done. I personally can't think > of anything more to add. > > By the way, I am surprised to see at least 3 people who responded to the > database are from San Francisco/Bay Area. I grew up in Istanbul/Turkey and > I am in the SF/Bay Area since 1988. > > Back in Turkey, my "dream deck" was the Akai GX-F90. Forget the Naks, I > could only afford the low-end Akai CS-F11then. On a trip to Japan in 1989 I > bought an A&D GX-Z9000 (same as Akai GX-8) and got only the brochures of > Dragon/CR-70 decks (still too expensive). > And then I discovered cassette-decks on e-bay, which eventually lead me to > naktalk. I collected a bunch of decks, including a 700zxe (orange-caps > recently replaced), a Dragon and not to mention a couple of GX-F90's. Other > stuff include an Aiwa XK-S9000, Pioneer CT-A9, Sony TC-177SD (another old > time favourite) and a Sony DTC-ZA5 DAT deck. > > Regards, > _Fuad > > >>>>>>>>> > Kannan wrote a great document on the Orange cap replacement! > A few minutes ago i've converted it to html and placed it online for you > all to look at: > > http://support.naks.com/orange/ > > I want to thank Kannan for this great (starting) contribution to this > 'project' ! > > Also thanks to Fuad for sending pictures of his 700zxe orange cap > replacement, i will add those to the site also, but have to think of a > way to combine all these pictures and future pictures (that also i will > be making of my soldering activity). > > I also want to encourage all who also have this 'orange cap' knowledge > to look at the document and write additions that can be added or placed > next to it.. i don't know yet, we can all decide and suggestions are > welcome! > > Enjoy! > > Wouter > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Wed Jan 22 18:27:46 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 00:27:46 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] Orange cap manual by Kannan online! References: <200301210422_MC3-1-25A9-D9D2@compuserve.com> <3E2EBF21.EFD61A7F@rcn.com> Message-ID: <001201c2c23b$b01636a0$08299bca@smarzuki> First of all, great job, Kannan ! I just printed it yesterday and the pictures are very clear. Ron, in my experience the ones on bias circuit fails just like that. (most likely on a fine day :-) But the ones on dolby circuit caused a buzz which grew louder. Same with caps in test tone area. I'm surprised to see orange caps still used in large quantity inside cr5, but almost none on cr4. Usually I'll wait until one gets sick, then replace them all while the cover is still opened. I once replaced bias caps on 482 - which failed the very next day, seems like the voltage rating required is quite high. However, the remaining orange caps inside that 482 were still working good until this day. Best regards, Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:56 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Orange cap manual by Kannan online! Very well done article by Kannan. I have a question for those that have suffered from (and conquered) the Orange Cap Disease. What is the failure mode of the capacitors? Do they slowly develop the problem over time, ot do they abruptly fail one fine day? IOW, does it make sense to forestall the disease by simply replacing every orange cap in the deck, once and for all, or is it safe to wait for a problem to develop, knowing that all is fine as long as no problem is apparent? -- Ron Compudude wrote: > > Orange cap manual by Kannan is very nicely done. I personally can't think > of anything more to add. > From lklein4 at ameritech.net Wed Jan 22 18:31:58 2003 From: lklein4 at ameritech.net (John Klein) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 12:31:58 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Pavel V. Pasechnik re:Maxell MS tapes Message-ID: <001d01c2c23c$2acab830$6601a8c0@hp> Hi, I just purchased Maxel MS-90, MX-S and XLII-S tapes for a try with my "new" Cassette Deck 1. The MS-90 and MX-S are very good..haven't tried the XLII-S yet. John Klein -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kannan_s at vsnl.com Wed Jan 22 19:47:51 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 00:17:51 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] Orange cap manual by Kannan online! Message-ID: <20030122184751.6FA58114910@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From kannan_s at vsnl.com Wed Jan 22 20:47:06 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 01:17:06 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] In a global sense Message-ID: <20030122194706.0EAFA114920@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From vzimakov at mtu-net.ru Wed Jan 22 19:01:00 2003 From: vzimakov at mtu-net.ru (Vladimir) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 21:01:00 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] Orange cap manual by Kannan online! In-Reply-To: <3E2EBF21.EFD61A7F@rcn.com> References: <3E2EBF21.EFD61A7F@rcn.com> Message-ID: <8875.030122@mtu-net.ru> Hello Ron, I had several decks, suffered from "orange disease". Bias and Erase generator was blown up suddenly and absolutely in two LX-3 and one ZX-9. Also several switching transistors in ZX9 were blown up. So in both LX-3 I replaced all caps in generator, and all tranzistors, in ZX-9 caps/gen transistors/switching transistors. Not all transistors and caps in generator were bad, One orange cap looks like opened cirquit and all the others(in other decks) were short. All other orange caps (in low voltage cirquits looks great and works good). Regards, Vladimir. среда, 22 января 2003, you wrote to me: R> Very well done article by Kannan. R> I have a question for those that have suffered from (and R> conquered) the Orange Cap Disease. What is the failure mode R> of the capacitors? Do they slowly develop the problem over R> time, ot do they abruptly fail one fine day? R> IOW, does it make sense to forestall the disease by simply R> replacing every orange cap in the deck, once and for all, R> or is it safe to wait for a problem to develop, knowing R> that all is fine as long as no problem is apparent? R> -- Ron R> Compudude wrote: >> >> Orange cap manual by Kannan is very nicely done. I personally can't think >> of anything more to add. >> >> By the way, I am surprised to see at least 3 people who responded to the >> database are from San Francisco/Bay Area. I grew up in Istanbul/Turkey and >> I am in the SF/Bay Area since 1988. >> >> Back in Turkey, my "dream deck" was the Akai GX-F90. Forget the Naks, I >> could only afford the low-end Akai CS-F11then. On a trip to Japan in 1989 I >> bought an A&D GX-Z9000 (same as Akai GX-8) and got only the brochures of >> Dragon/CR-70 decks (still too expensive). >> And then I discovered cassette-decks on e-bay, which eventually lead me to >> naktalk. I collected a bunch of decks, including a 700zxe (orange-caps >> recently replaced), a Dragon and not to mention a couple of GX-F90's. Other >> stuff include an Aiwa XK-S9000, Pioneer CT-A9, Sony TC-177SD (another old >> time favourite) and a Sony DTC-ZA5 DAT deck. >> >> Regards, >> _Fuad >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Kannan wrote a great document on the Orange cap replacement! >> A few minutes ago i've converted it to html and placed it online for you >> all to look at: >> >> http://support.naks.com/orange/ >> >> I want to thank Kannan for this great (starting) contribution to this >> 'project' ! >> >> Also thanks to Fuad for sending pictures of his 700zxe orange cap >> replacement, i will add those to the site also, but have to think of a >> way to combine all these pictures and future pictures (that also i will >> be making of my soldering activity). >> >> I also want to encourage all who also have this 'orange cap' knowledge >> to look at the document and write additions that can be added or placed >> next to it.. i don't know yet, we can all decide and suggestions are >> welcome! >> >> Enjoy! >> >> Wouter >> ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >> To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= R> ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= R> Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist R> To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk R> ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= Best regards, Vladimir mailto:vzimakov at mtu-net.ru From wheijke at xs4all.nl Wed Jan 22 21:17:02 2003 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 21:17:02 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Tom van der Hof References: <20030122194706.0EAFA114920@webmail.vsnl.com> Message-ID: <3E2EFC3D.DBCD1BC6@xs4all.nl> Kannan, I met him several times, he has been working at the Dutch company Transtec, Nakamichi distributer, since the days 'our' Naks were on sale in the shops. He is like a wizard, works very fast (if he lets you sit next to him to watch him apply his wizzardy on your Nak at all), and apparently has made modifications to decks. He did this to my Dragon. When i brought it to him it had the AA unit missing (!!!!) and almost everything was not functioning... He revamped the unit and it was working perfectly! Only now the idler rubber has dried up so it won't play anymore... I've seen him replace the idler rubber on my ZX7 without dismantling the whole cassette assembly, this is very costly reapair, so he made a special tool to place just the rubber without replacing the whole idler... There is more, but i forgot... Wouter kannan_s at vsnl.com wrote: > hI did you by any chance to meet this Van der hof and any experiences that you can share with Naktalkers? > Kannan > > j.soulantikas at chello.nl wrote > Ok here i am > I come from Greece. > I live in Holland (26 km, from the Dutch Naks guru, mr.Ton van der Hof , (lucky me). > I own a 582, BX -300, CR-4 and two CR-7 (one is without remote control). > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Wed Jan 22 22:03:58 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 08:03:58 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Pavel V. Pasechnik re:Maxell MS tapes Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E83@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Hi John. I'll bet when you record some music on the XLII-S you will notice a much stronger treble in the recordings compared to the MS/MX-S. Overall the Maxells are just great. Still have a bunch from the 70's and they still record just beautifully. The other day I recorded some music onto a Maxell UD-90 built in 77 (I think) on my RX505, and it still gave the WOW factor. Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: John Klein [mailto:lklein4 at ameritech.net] Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2003 4:32 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Pavel V. Pasechnik re:Maxell MS tapes Hi, I just purchased Maxel MS-90, MX-S and XLII-S tapes for a try with my "new" Cassette Deck 1. The MS-90 and MX-S are very good..haven't tried the XLII-S yet. John Klein -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Wed Jan 22 22:45:34 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 08:45:34 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Maxell MS tapes Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E85@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Hi Pavel. Yes I do (among many other makes and models). In fact I just finished recording some music on an Maxell MX-S 90 the other day using my RX505 and my Highcom II noise reduction unit, the results, simply "jaw dropping" fantastic. The tape has no drop outs at all, the case feels so smooth (smoother than my son's butt.....ok guys he's only 2 years old and only know how his butt feels because I have to change his nappies from time to time), and well constructed. Pity I only bought the last 4 60 min from a local music store, I cannot find them anymore in Australia :( As a result I use these tape only for the best recordings. Hope this helps you out Pavel. Regards Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: Pavel V. Pasechnik [mailto:pasec at relex.ru] Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2003 1:24 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Maxell MS tapes Hi, All! Does anybody use Maxell MS cassettes? Pavel. ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From vvinodk at hotmail.com Wed Jan 22 23:39:23 2003 From: vvinodk at hotmail.com (Vinod Kumar) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 22:39:23 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense Message-ID: Oops... forgot to mention my geographical location. I'm based in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Got into this collection habit 5 years ago. Have basic knowledge about electronics in general (I can solder too :-) ). Vinod >From: kannan_s at vsnl.com >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense >Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 10:26:52 +0530 (IST) > >I think plenty of people still out there who had not explicitly stated to >be in the database. However the most important information Mr Blues wanted >is the geographical location of the Naktalker - some people have missed to >state that? > > I can add my personal info here for the database as I have not done it >yet. >Location - Bangalore , India ( temporarily in US bay area) >Nak Collection - CR7, Dragon, BX300, 582, 480 and CD player 2 >wish to add - 1000ZXL >Got involved in Nakamichi collection about 12 years back when I bought a >BX1 and collected a service manual to set right the idler problem! I had >built the Linseley Hood Cassette deck ( Wireless world 1976!) before that >and that gave me lot of insight in to electronic/ mechanical trouble >shooting of Naks. Enjoy listening to large number of cassettes recorded >some 15 to 18 years back on different machines. >Kannan > >bgdickel at paradise.net.nz wrote >I might be the last: > >CR-7 > >and residing in Dunedin, New Zealand. > > >At 03:06 22/01/03 +0000, you wrote: > > >Looks like I'm the last one... > > > >Dragon, ZXE, CA1, PA1, RM-20, SP7, DM10 > > > >Vinod > > > > > >>From: Modernizy at netscape.net (Nick) > >>Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com > >>To: naktalk at naks.com > >>Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) > >>Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 16:31:00 -0500 > >> > >>Hello, Mr.Blues and other Naktalkers, > >> > >>Please forgive me for being one of the last in the queue for Naktalk > >>database... > >> > >>Nicholas Gornostayev, 32, Moscow, The Russian Federation. > >> > >>My Nak collection is not large but tasty: 700TriTracer, CR-7, ZX-9, > >>NR-200, & T-100 + a small gadget called DM-10. > >> > >>With the very best wishes to all Naktalkers all over the world, > >> > >>Nicholas. > >> > >>__________________________________________________________________ > >>The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! > >>http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp > >> > >>Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at > >>http://webmail.netscape.com/ > >>========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > >> Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > >>To maintain your account please go here: > >>http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >>========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > >To maintain your account please go here: > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > > >bgdickel at paradise.net.nz >http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/bgdickel/brett.htm > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Wed Jan 22 23:51:25 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 22:51:25 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Tom van der Hof In-Reply-To: <3E2EFC3D.DBCD1BC6@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <006c01c2c268$cab45b40$11d0193e@oemcomputer> Apparently, it was this engineer who serviced my ZX-9 before I bought it. The modification he did ... I don't know exactly what. However, after the modification, the bias setting has to be raised one point on the scale above the factory recommended mark. My impression of my own ZX-9 is that it is the most accurate recorder I have yet heard in that I find it hard to distinguish original CD from the recording. I should have liked to have heard the ZX-9 before the van der Hof modification .. but I am told the difference is found in the top end, in that more detail is captured without losing the same in the bass or mid range. Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Wouter Heijke > Sent: 22 January 2003 20:17 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] Tom van der Hof > > > Kannan, > > I met him several times, he has been working at the Dutch company > Transtec, Nakamichi distributer, since the > days 'our' Naks were on sale in the shops. > He is like a wizard, works very fast (if he lets you sit next to > him to watch him apply his wizzardy on your > Nak at all), and apparently has made modifications to decks. He > did this to my Dragon. When i brought it to > him it had the AA unit missing (!!!!) and almost everything was > not functioning... He revamped the unit and > it was working perfectly! Only now the idler rubber has dried up > so it won't play anymore... > I've seen him replace the idler rubber on my ZX7 without > dismantling the whole cassette assembly, this is > very costly reapair, so he made a special tool to place just the > rubber without replacing the whole idler... > There is more, but i forgot... > > Wouter > > kannan_s at vsnl.com wrote: > > > hI did you by any chance to meet this Van der hof and any > experiences that you can share with Naktalkers? > > Kannan > > > > j.soulantikas at chello.nl wrote > > Ok here i am > > I come from Greece. > > I live in Holland (26 km, from the Dutch Naks guru, mr.Ton van > der Hof , (lucky me). > > I own a 582, BX -300, CR-4 and two CR-7 (one is without remote control). > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 From wheijke at xs4all.nl Thu Jan 23 00:07:54 2003 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 00:07:54 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Tom van der Hof References: <006c01c2c268$cab45b40$11d0193e@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <3E2F2449.1850C1C7@xs4all.nl> Well.. I noticed (at least) these changes on my Dragon when i got it back when he serviced it, never hat the opportunity to ask him exactly what he did.. Here are 2 pictures... maybe Naktalk-Technicians can unveil what the modification was all about, or can see if they have the same changes? http://support.naks.com/dragonmod/141-4168_IMG.JPG http://support.naks.com/dragonmod/141-4169_IMG.JPG I'm talking about the 3 tweakers he added that were most noticable for me. On request i can take more pictures of other parts. Wouter Graham Nelson wrote: > Apparently, it was this engineer who serviced my ZX-9 before I bought it. > The modification he did ... I don't know exactly what. However, after the > modification, the bias setting has to be raised one point on the scale above > the factory recommended mark. My impression of my own ZX-9 is that it is > the most accurate recorder I have yet heard in that I find it hard to > distinguish original CD from the recording. I should have liked to have > heard the ZX-9 before the van der Hof modification .. but I am told the > difference is found in the top end, in that more detail is captured without > losing the same in the bass or mid range. > > Gra' > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > Wouter Heijke > > Sent: 22 January 2003 20:17 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: [naktalk] Tom van der Hof > > > > > > Kannan, > > > > I met him several times, he has been working at the Dutch company > > Transtec, Nakamichi distributer, since the > > days 'our' Naks were on sale in the shops. > > He is like a wizard, works very fast (if he lets you sit next to > > him to watch him apply his wizzardy on your > > Nak at all), and apparently has made modifications to decks. He > > did this to my Dragon. When i brought it to > > him it had the AA unit missing (!!!!) and almost everything was > > not functioning... He revamped the unit and > > it was working perfectly! Only now the idler rubber has dried up > > so it won't play anymore... > > I've seen him replace the idler rubber on my ZX7 without > > dismantling the whole cassette assembly, this is > > very costly reapair, so he made a special tool to place just the > > rubber without replacing the whole idler... > > There is more, but i forgot... > > > > Wouter > > > > kannan_s at vsnl.com wrote: > > > > > hI did you by any chance to meet this Van der hof and any > > experiences that you can share with Naktalkers? > > > Kannan > > > > > > j.soulantikas at chello.nl wrote > > > Ok here i am > > > I come from Greece. > > > I live in Holland (26 km, from the Dutch Naks guru, mr.Ton van > > der Hof , (lucky me). > > > I own a 582, BX -300, CR-4 and two CR-7 (one is without remote control). > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stan.targowski at attbi.com Thu Jan 23 00:24:15 2003 From: stan.targowski at attbi.com (Stan Targowski) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 17:24:15 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Pavel V. Pasechnik re:Maxell MS tapes In-Reply-To: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E83@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Message-ID: Tom, I have recorded on both XL-IIS and MX-S, and with either tape on a Nakamichi 4A (pre-calibrated for each) I get a recording almost undistinguishable from the original CD. Actually, I do push the Metal tape a little harder (+10 db peaks) vs.. chrome (+7db peaks), and thus the recording sounds little louder. With this in mind, when you say XL-IIS will give stronger treble, do you mean that it sounds brighter (as in under-biased?), or that you do lose some treble whilst recording on the MX-S? I have seen Maxell MS, and if my memory serves me right it had one of these cheaper shells as compared to the solid touch and feel of MX-S. Either way, I like both tapes, and agree with your other post about the case quality. Same here, I have a batch of 10 of these tapes (MX-S), plus another batch of tapes like BASF TP-IV(10), TDK MA-XG (3), TDK MA-X (3), TDK SM-X90 (20+), and SONY Metal Master (1) that I keep for these special moments. At this time, the only decent tapes I can buy locally are Maxell XL-II, and TDK MA (although the TDK's have pretty lousy shells, they just do not feel right.) Stan -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Siomopoulos Sent: Wed, January 22, 2003 3:04 PM To: 'naktalk at naks.com' Subject: RE: [naktalk] Pavel V. Pasechnik re:Maxell MS tapes Hi John. I'll bet when you record some music on the XLII-S you will notice a much stronger treble in the recordings compared to the MS/MX-S. Overall the Maxells are just great. Still have a bunch from the 70's and they still record just beautifully. The other day I recorded some music onto a Maxell UD-90 built in 77 (I think) on my RX505, and it still gave the WOW factor. Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: John Klein [mailto:lklein4 at ameritech.net] Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2003 4:32 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Pavel V. Pasechnik re:Maxell MS tapes Hi, I just purchased Maxel MS-90, MX-S and XLII-S tapes for a try with my "new" Cassette Deck 1. The MS-90 and MX-S are very good..haven't tried the XLII-S yet. John Klein -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bluenote at bellsouth.net Thu Jan 23 00:38:20 2003 From: bluenote at bellsouth.net (Larry Williams) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 18:38:20 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) Message-ID: <9707A0FE-2E62-11D7-B50D-0003938F962C@bellsouth.net> Hi, Larry E. Williams 48 years old from Atlanta Georgia USA. I'm another lurker but I have a fascination with Nakamichi and cassette recorders in general. I have wanted a Nakamichi since the heydays of cassette recorders but always settled for lesser decks because of the expense. Decks that I currently own are: Dragon, LX-5, 700, 600, 500. Others are Yamaha KX1200U a B&O 9000 and a Pioneer CT-F9191 From kannan_s at vsnl.com Thu Jan 23 00:51:58 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 05:21:58 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] Tom van der Hof Message-ID: <20030122235158.1E632114938@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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URL: From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Thu Jan 23 01:04:40 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:04:40 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Pavel V. Pasechnik re:Maxell MS tapes Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E86@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Stan, I feel that the XLII-S is a little bright at times. Not a big problem for me because I can adjust the bias to suit me. I agree with you about the shell of the TDK, I'm not impressed with the latest releases, seems to me that TDK are concentrating on their efforts elsewhere. What is the Sony Metal master like. I'm after at least one of these (if anyone is selling please let me know). Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: Stan Targowski [mailto:stan.targowski at attbi.com] Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2003 10:24 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: RE: [naktalk] Pavel V. Pasechnik re:Maxell MS tapes Tom, I have recorded on both XL-IIS and MX-S, and with either tape on a Nakamichi 4A (pre-calibrated for each) I get a recording almost undistinguishable from the original CD. Actually, I do push the Metal tape a little harder (+10 db peaks) vs.. chrome (+7db peaks), and thus the recording sounds little louder. With this in mind, when you say XL-IIS will give stronger treble, do you mean that it sounds brighter (as in under-biased?), or that you do lose some treble whilst recording on the MX-S? I have seen Maxell MS, and if my memory serves me right it had one of these cheaper shells as compared to the solid touch and feel of MX-S. Either way, I like both tapes, and agree with your other post about the case quality. Same here, I have a batch of 10 of these tapes (MX-S), plus another batch of tapes like BASF TP-IV(10), TDK MA-XG (3), TDK MA-X (3), TDK SM-X90 (20+), and SONY Metal Master (1) that I keep for these special moments. At this time, the only decent tapes I can buy locally are Maxell XL-II, and TDK MA (although the TDK's have pretty lousy shells, they just do not feel right.) Stan -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Siomopoulos Sent: Wed, January 22, 2003 3:04 PM To: 'naktalk at naks.com' Subject: RE: [naktalk] Pavel V. Pasechnik re:Maxell MS tapes Hi John. I'll bet when you record some music on the XLII-S you will notice a much stronger treble in the recordings compared to the MS/MX-S. Overall the Maxells are just great. Still have a bunch from the 70's and they still record just beautifully. The other day I recorded some music onto a Maxell UD-90 built in 77 (I think) on my RX505, and it still gave the WOW factor. Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: John Klein [mailto:lklein4 at ameritech.net] Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2003 4:32 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Pavel V. Pasechnik re:Maxell MS tapes Hi, I just purchased Maxel MS-90, MX-S and XLII-S tapes for a try with my "new" Cassette Deck 1. The MS-90 and MX-S are very good..haven't tried the XLII-S yet. John Klein -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Thu Jan 23 01:16:02 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:16:02 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 strange noise Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E87@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Hi Dorian. It sounds like it could be the idler wheel that sits between the two reel hubs. My ZX9 sometimes makes a vibrating sound just after it finishes rewinding or fast-forwarding and the machine has that brief split second pause before it decides to place the mechinics in the stop mode, that's when it does it. I've been told that this is normal and not to worry about it. In your case if it is doing the noise during the tape slack take-up motion, then it would need a service or a replacement of the rubber on the idler. It's worth doing on the ZX7 - great machine. Hope this helps Dorian. Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: Dorian Dyer [mailto:dorian.dyer at digit6.com] Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2003 11:05 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 strange noise Hello everyone my recently acquired ZX-7 sometimes makes a strange noise and vibration when powering up with a tape inside or when closing the door with a tape inside. Sometimes it works right and it quietly spools the tape briefly after these procedures but most of the time it will not do the wind and it just makes a loud vibrating noise. Everything else seems OK. I am planning on servicing the deck but was wondering if anyone is familiar with this problem. Is it repairable and is it expensive? 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Alternatively, I have about 10 megabytes of free space on my BleuSwapper website allocation with Angelfire.Com (almost freebee hosting that has served me well for nearly five years), so I could easily host the project, at least for starters. We'll see what comes of this idea as time goes by. Regards, K.J. Bleus --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/Index.html ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus From blueswapper at angelfire.com Thu Jan 23 01:36:26 2003 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 16:36:26 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Nak ZX-7 & Orange Cap Disease Message-ID: Dear friends - How about the ZX-7 and orange cap disease, I've not seen anyone complaining that their ZX-7 suffer this malady. I have a beaut ZX7, performs flawlessly, and no signs of the dreaded oranginess! Last summer August, when Michael DeWire opened up my ZX7 (what a learning experience for me when he tuned-up my Naks!), we didn't detect any orangies, but maybe I just didn't look closely. Perhaps we ZX-7 owners are the lucky ones ??? Too bad about the ZX-9s, they seem to be prone to these problems more than many other Nak decks. Why is that the case? Anyway, what advice can you guys offer to us. How about RX-505 decks, also susceptible to the mean orangies disease also? Bleus --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus From ezio_lucenti at tin.it Thu Jan 23 01:40:43 2003 From: ezio_lucenti at tin.it (Ezio) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 01:40:43 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalk (In A Global Sense) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030123013851.00a68350@box.tin.it> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From winniepoohlove at hotmail.com Thu Jan 23 02:11:37 2003 From: winniepoohlove at hotmail.com (winnie pooh) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 01:11:37 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalk (In A Global Sense) Message-ID: Hi Mr Bleus, Great idea of yours. Look forward to seeing it when completed. here's my data: Kelvin Lim, 33 years old, formerly of Sheffield (England, United Kingdom) but currently in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (likely to make this change of address permanent!) with home Naks CR-7E, RX-505E, BX-300E and Cassette Deck 1.5 (all survived the move intact!), SP-7 headphones and in car Naks TD-700 (not used noe as tape loading gear broken and can't find replacement), Mobile Tuner Deck 1, CDC-101 CD changer and PA-300II power amps. Cheers to you all! >From: "The BlueSwapper" >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: naktalk at naks.com >CC: blueswapper at angelfire.com >Subject: [naktalk] NakTalk (In A Global Sense) >Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 16:25:19 -0800 > >Howdy Jim, et al..... > >Sure, we can work up some pages for NakTalker & gear photos. The Nak >Marathon Tape page can be a general guideline for the way we build another >set of dedicated pages. My proposal - I'll coordinate with Wouter to >determine whether the Naks.Com website can host the "NakTalk In A Global >Sense' project (database, maps(s), photos, mini-biogs, etc). I'm assuming >that you Nakkers would support the idea of having our project as a subset >of Naks.Com, but that is certainly a decision for Wouter. Alternatively, I >have about 10 megabytes of free space on my BleuSwapper website allocation >with Angelfire.Com (almost freebee hosting that has served me well for >nearly five years), so I could easily host the project, at least for >starters. We'll see what comes of this idea as time goes by. > >Regards, > >K.J. Bleus > >--- >Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? >http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/Index.html > > > > >____________________________________________________________ >Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! >Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.co.uk From stan.targowski at attbi.com Thu Jan 23 03:14:09 2003 From: stan.targowski at attbi.com (Stan Targowski) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 20:14:09 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Pavel V. Pasechnik re:Maxell MS tapes In-Reply-To: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E86@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Message-ID: Tom, Metal Master feels very solid. I have tried recording a couple of songs and it sounds wonderful. I am keeping it for some extremely special occasion. Again, it is more for my collection. I think I paid around $8-9 US for the C-90 several years ago, and to be perfectly honest, if they were available today, I would probably add 1 or 2 for collection, but would not buy anymore at that price. Stan -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Siomopoulos Sent: Wed, January 22, 2003 6:05 PM To: 'naktalk at naks.com' Subject: RE: [naktalk] Pavel V. Pasechnik re:Maxell MS tapes Stan, I feel that the XLII-S is a little bright at times. Not a big problem for me because I can adjust the bias to suit me. I agree with you about the shell of the TDK, I'm not impressed with the latest releases, seems to me that TDK are concentrating on their efforts elsewhere. What is the Sony Metal master like. I'm after at least one of these (if anyone is selling please let me know). Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: Stan Targowski [mailto:stan.targowski at attbi.com] Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2003 10:24 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: RE: [naktalk] Pavel V. Pasechnik re:Maxell MS tapes Tom, I have recorded on both XL-IIS and MX-S, and with either tape on a Nakamichi 4A (pre-calibrated for each) I get a recording almost undistinguishable from the original CD. Actually, I do push the Metal tape a little harder (+10 db peaks) vs.. chrome (+7db peaks), and thus the recording sounds little louder. With this in mind, when you say XL-IIS will give stronger treble, do you mean that it sounds brighter (as in under-biased?), or that you do lose some treble whilst recording on the MX-S? I have seen Maxell MS, and if my memory serves me right it had one of these cheaper shells as compared to the solid touch and feel of MX-S. Either way, I like both tapes, and agree with your other post about the case quality. Same here, I have a batch of 10 of these tapes (MX-S), plus another batch of tapes like BASF TP-IV(10), TDK MA-XG (3), TDK MA-X (3), TDK SM-X90 (20+), and SONY Metal Master (1) that I keep for these special moments. At this time, the only decent tapes I can buy locally are Maxell XL-II, and TDK MA (although the TDK's have pretty lousy shells, they just do not feel right.) Stan -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Siomopoulos Sent: Wed, January 22, 2003 3:04 PM To: 'naktalk at naks.com' Subject: RE: [naktalk] Pavel V. Pasechnik re:Maxell MS tapes Hi John. I'll bet when you record some music on the XLII-S you will notice a much stronger treble in the recordings compared to the MS/MX-S. Overall the Maxells are just great. Still have a bunch from the 70's and they still record just beautifully. The other day I recorded some music onto a Maxell UD-90 built in 77 (I think) on my RX505, and it still gave the WOW factor. Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: John Klein [mailto:lklein4 at ameritech.net] Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2003 4:32 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Pavel V. Pasechnik re:Maxell MS tapes Hi, I just purchased Maxel MS-90, MX-S and XLII-S tapes for a try with my "new" Cassette Deck 1. The MS-90 and MX-S are very good..haven't tried the XLII-S yet. John Klein -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ra.ah at rcn.com Thu Jan 23 04:00:28 2003 From: ra.ah at rcn.com (Ron) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 22:00:28 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Orange cap manual by Kannan online! References: <20030122184751.6FA58114910@webmail.vsnl.com> Message-ID: <3E2F5ACC.736C7913@rcn.com> Thanks for all the replies. I already have a list of upgrades for my CR-7, to be done one day in the distant, undefined future. I will add full replacement of all orange caps to this. Hopefully, I will get to it before one of them actually fails. -- Ron From kannan_s at vsnl.com Thu Jan 23 05:00:54 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 09:30:54 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] Nak ZX-7 & Orange Cap Disease Message-ID: <20030123040054.8AE9D11496D@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From hzl88 at msn.com Thu Jan 23 05:51:04 2003 From: hzl88 at msn.com (marc) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 23:51:04 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030122172547.02163540@pop3.paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: <00f701c2c29b$0b377b20$4f2d1943@Marc> Nope, I'm probably last: Marc in NYC, USA. I'm the proud owner of: 2 550's, a DMP-100, and 4 Nak CM300 mic's, including the CP4 shotgun capsules, not to metion my Sony's: TC-D5, TC-D5m, D7 dat, and WM-D3. Thanks for including me on the map! -m ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brett Dickel" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:26 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) > I might be the last: > > CR-7 > > and residing in Dunedin, New Zealand. > > > At 03:06 22/01/03 +0000, you wrote: > > >Looks like I'm the last one... > > > >Dragon, ZXE, CA1, PA1, RM-20, SP7, DM10 > > > >Vinod > > > > > >>From: Modernizy at netscape.net (Nick) > >>Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com > >>To: naktalk at naks.com > >>Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) > >>Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 16:31:00 -0500 > >> > >>Hello, Mr.Blues and other Naktalkers, > >> > >>Please forgive me for being one of the last in the queue for Naktalk > >>database... > >> > >>Nicholas Gornostayev, 32, Moscow, The Russian Federation. > >> > >>My Nak collection is not large but tasty: 700TriTracer, CR-7, ZX-9, > >>NR-200, & T-100 + a small gadget called DM-10. > >> > >>With the very best wishes to all Naktalkers all over the world, > >> > >>Nicholas. > >> > >>__________________________________________________________________ > >>The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. 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I have a 680zx, recently blessed by Stephen Sank, and a 582z. I gave away my 480, but I still get to visit it once and a while. I really miss its analogue meters, but the 680zx 50-segment meters almost make up for it. I never dub tapes any more, and have no good reason to have two decks, but still dream about acquiring a zx-7 or zx-9. --Jud Herrman From Mhugo at sunint.co.za Thu Jan 23 08:10:59 2003 From: Mhugo at sunint.co.za (Mark Hugo) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 09:10:59 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Pavel V. Pasechnik re:Maxell MS tapes Message-ID: Howdy John, You will not be disappointed with the XLII-S. They are my favourite super-chrome and due to the slightly rising treble, make for extremely versatile tapes due to the possible high frequency fall-off in cases of azimuth variance on other decks. I haven't read any of the mails below which probably elaborate on this, but to my knowledge the Studio MS is a different dress Maxell XLII. This of course makes it an excellent tape, perhaps better than standard dress XLII due to a stiffer mechanism. (There have been reports of shell-flexing on the current crop of American XLII tape (cool series) which of course can mean alignment problems). The MX-S are superb metals and are the peer of any other type IV. Your Cassette Deck 1 is going to dine well!! Cheers, Marc >>> lklein4 at ameritech.net 01/22/03 07:31PM >>> Hi, I just purchased Maxel MS-90, MX-S and XLII-S tapes for a try with my "new" Cassette Deck 1. The MS-90 and MX-S are very good..haven't tried the XLII-S yet. John Klein The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient/s. 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From mdevera at compuserve.com Thu Jan 23 10:07:47 2003 From: mdevera at compuserve.com (Mike deVera) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 01:07:47 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Sony SMM (not Metal-ES) In-Reply-To: <01b001c1be23$e01dd9b0$10756acf@john5my2w9iyeb> Message-ID: <000001c2c2be$e6029960$1901000a@c994264e> Sorry to dig up old topics, but back in Feb 2002, there was a long running thread on whether John would do a group purchase for these particular Sony metal tapes. Did that just sputter out? -----Original Message----- From: owner-naktalk at ns.naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at ns.naks.com]On Behalf Of John M. Tooley Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 9:43 AM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Sony SMM (not Metal-ES) Back in for 10. Okay. I must email my friend in Switzerland and see if he has contacted them. John ----- Original Message ----- From: Kent Merideth To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Sony SMM (not Metal-ES) John, I just noticed the Subject field indicates Sony SMM (not Metal-ES). I just committed the error I was running into with Car & Driver magazine, when I requested a replacement issue, which had portions of some of the pages torn completely out. I indicated what month was involved in the Subject field, but failed to include it in the body of the letter, so they said they could not send a replacement until they knew which one was requested. Now you can put me back down for 10 of these if they do not go over $10.00 each, delivered. Should have put my brain in gear, before engaging my fingers. Hope I pay better attention to the details the rest of the week. Sorry for the confusion, again. Kent >>> khmerideth at anderson.edu 02/25/02 11:47AM >>> John, Yes, I was thinking the tapes were Metal Master, as was being discussed at the beginning. I missed the transition to ES somewhere along the way. Sorry for my not picking up on this. Delete my previous request. Kent Indiana >>> jmtooley at ce.net 02/25/02 08:41AM >>> Kent, Should I now drop your name from the list? John ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Sony SMM (not Metal-ES) > In a message dated 2/23/2002 11:03:32 PM Central Standard Time, > khmerideth at anderson.edu writes: > > << Tom, > > I was thinking it was Metal Master we were talking about also. When I > realized it was ES, I dropped out. The two ES 90's I have are good, but > am not sure I want to spend $8-$10 on them. If they had been Metal > Master, I was willing to try it for this amount. This does not mean the > ES is not a good tape, it is very good. 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URL: From jamesbakner at yahoo.com Thu Jan 23 10:27:19 2003 From: jamesbakner at yahoo.com (James bakner) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 01:27:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] opinions on NAD 613, DR-3 Alan Parsons Project, and "in a global sense" In-Reply-To: <20021230163622.E19C1114942@webmail.vsnl.com> Message-ID: <20030123092719.41515.qmail@web40303.mail.yahoo.com> Marc - Thanks for the welcoming remarks. I finally got my DR 3 hooked up yesterday. (I had to finish building my CD rack - My CDs were taking up all of my empty rack spaces on my stereo rack ) My first impression was - oh my - This sound is different. I guess you get used to a particular sound, in my case a NAD 613 I had been using for a number of years now. I have not recorded anything yet - I listened to tapes I had, both prerecorded, and tapes I made on my previous machines. But, I listened all day and this evening. My good stereo is at work, although I do not listen critically during the day, I always have music on. (I own a Bookstore in Lexington, Virginia "the Bookery") I found the DR 3 revealing: good cassette recordings sounded good; not so good recordings sounded not so good, and my best recordings sounded awesome. I had a recording on a TDK metal MA tape in Dolby C off a record of the Saint Saens "organ" number 3 symphony. That was the best I had ever heard that tape. (It was origionally recorded on a Kenwood KX660HX deck I had in High School) I had some piano recorded on Sony chrome in Dolby C on that same deck - It also sounded great. I also listened to some Alan Parsons Project. Interestingly, most of my A.P.P. is on prerecorded cassette. On the NAD 613 with "block" repeat, I'd program it to play "Psychobabble" over and over. (After I closed the bookstore.....) I would very much like to get on the "tape tree" and hear some well recorded Alan Parsons Project that was mentioned in one of the posts. After getting this DR 3 and cleaning my stereo rack I have done a couple other things: I ordered a new cartridge for the Thorens Turntable I bought nine months ago on E bay to replace the hideous Technics linear tracking turntable I had in High School. I now might have some worthy analog to feed into the NAK. I also bought off of E bay a NAK BX 125 and an integrated amp for the kitchen at home to replace (don't laugh) an early eighties SONY ghettoblaster. This "naktalk" is great. The loyalty and spirit to keep these machines alive. I have found nothing like it towards any other make of cassette deck. It reminds me a little of my other "hobby" - old Volkswagens. --- kannan_s at vsnl.com wrote: > > Mark > this an excellent welcome note to a new comer! > Kannan > Mhugo at sunint.co.za wrote > > Hi James > > I hope you enjoy your DR3 and congats on the > auction. Never mind that it is not a dual cap, > three header. It will still have many of the > desirable Nak hallmarks. I always have thought the > "Cassette Deck" and "DR" family have a very real, > uncoloured sound - and are a bit diffferent to the > mid-eighties machines, but not in a bad way. I have > a brief review of the DR3 from What Hi-Fi. If you > would like a copy, please post your postal address > and it will be sent. > > I would encourage you to treat your DR3 to a diet of > chrome and, if you can manage it (and find them) > metal tapes. The humble TDK "D" is a respectable > enough type 1, with good consistency and durability > characteristics, but if you have a critical ear, or > for that matter, a special piece of music to record, > your Nak will return generous dividends on demanding > formulations. > > Although your experience with other machines such as > NAD, Kenwood and Yamaha may have revealed > disappointing results with Dolby NR, do not hesitate > to use them on a Nakamichi. The record/replay > losses are, unlike with pratically all other brands, > zero or close to zero. This is one thing that makes > Nakamichi very special and quite possibly why they > never bothered with Dolby "S". If your selection is > some raunchy blues or energetic pop, then setting > your levels a bit higher and recording without dolby > will give a little bit more freedom in the > mid-range. Classical, much jazz and etherial new > age styles benefit from the use of Dolby C which > have the effect of increasing your dynamic range to > around 70dB. For practical purposes, this is > excellent, and while not matching the 100dB or so > typical of compact disc, easily replicates the > typical dynamics you would experience at a live > music venue. > > The crystalloy heads of Nakamichi are able to handle > more level than other heads, without compression. > To what extent this is possible is something you > will need to experiment with. But try a TDK MA and > give yourself a surprise. The more esoteric metals > like TDK MA-XG and That's Metal Suono, due to double > coatings, and sometimes reverse coatings, can take > punishing levels without audible distortion or > compression. My personal experience with Sony Metal > XR, is that it is an exception to this rule, but is > still a very desirable tape. > > The NAD 613 and 614 were surprisingly bright and > breezy sounding machines. Quite stable too. It's > just as well you did "No Dolby" recordings with > those machines in retrospect. Play trim is a clever > control - both NAD and Yamaha have featured it for > years and I must agree having played with my fathers > KX-393, it is far superior than turning the treble > control. Still, it is an electronic intervention > that attempts to correct on the one hand, an > electronic problem (incompatible Dolby encode and > replay performance) and on the other hand a > mechanical problem (azimuth errors). Nakamichi's > approach was to attack the issue of azimuth related > headroom losses more directly, in the mechanical > domain, as you may know already. On Dolby, their > chips seem to be the best available, quite simply. > > The earlier NADs like the 6050C (1984) were more > purist and did not have this play trim feature. > > On the sound differences between CD and cassette, > you can look forward to improvements in this area. > The better three head Naks will make recordings that > are hard to tell from the source. Even two head > Naks feature much higher head saturation levels than > other brands, with a very high signal purity. Deep > controlled bass, informative free-breathing midband > and sparkling treble, that even on headphones will > all but match the source. > > The main difference between CD and other sources is > dynamic range. Bear in mind that when replicating a > live music environment in the home, you would not be > standing in the orchestra pit or standing next to > the speakers (the dynamic equivalent of the > soundboard recording, but with appropriate reduction > is sound pressure levels). Therefore, 100dB dynamic > ranges are "real" in one sense and not in the least > "realistic" in another. At close quarters, say > 2-3,5m listening range, 60-70dB is much closer to > replicating the live experience. > > Ensure your cables are nice thick OFC ones to ensure > low signal loss. > > Good luck with your new DR3. > > Regards, > > Marc > > > > > > >>> jamesbakner at yahoo.com 12/29/02 02:52PM >>> > This is a reply to Javier Perez in August. I have a > NAD 613, which I think is similar to the 614, just > different face plates and controls. I mostly record > FM radio ====.......................... > The information contained in this email is > confidential and may be subject > to legal privilege. 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Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From Wwtgraham at aol.com Thu Jan 23 13:07:51 2003 From: Wwtgraham at aol.com (Wwtgraham at aol.com) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 07:07:51 EST Subject: [naktalk] Orange Cap Message-ID: <93.29805024.2b613517@aol.com> Hello last week I email you on my Dragon, thank for the help. My question to you is what is the orange cap disease that I been reading about and what is the effect on the deck having these caps in them. And thanks you again on my simple fix for my dragon. William -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmtooley at ce.net Thu Jan 23 13:51:24 2003 From: jmtooley at ce.net (jmtooley at ce.net) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 07:51:24 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Sony SMM (not Metal-ES) In-Reply-To: <000001c2c2be$e6029960$1901000a@c994264e> References: <000001c2c2be$e6029960$1901000a@c994264e> Message-ID: <1043326284.3e2fe54cf098a@mail.ce.net> I asked my friend in Swit. about doing it and didn't get any response, enough said ;-) John T. Quoting Mike deVera : > Sorry to dig up old topics, but back in Feb 2002, there was a long running > thread on whether John would do a group purchase for these particular Sony > metal tapes. Did that just sputter out? > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-naktalk at ns.naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at ns.naks.com]On > Behalf Of John M. Tooley > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 9:43 AM > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Sony SMM (not Metal-ES) > > > Back in for 10. Okay. I must email my friend in Switzerland and see if he > has contacted them. > > John > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kent Merideth > To: naktalk at naks.com > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 12:24 PM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Sony SMM (not Metal-ES) > > > John, > > I just noticed the Subject field indicates Sony SMM (not Metal-ES). I > just committed the error I was running into with Car & Driver magazine, > when > I requested a replacement issue, which had portions of some of the pages > torn completely out. I indicated what month was involved in the Subject > field, but failed to include it in the body of the letter, so they said > they > could not send a replacement until they knew which one was requested. > > Now you can put me back down for 10 of these if they do not go over > $10.00 each, delivered. Should have put my brain in gear, before engaging > my fingers. Hope I pay better attention to the details the rest of the > week. Sorry for the confusion, again. > > Kent > > > >>> khmerideth at anderson.edu 02/25/02 11:47AM >>> > > John, > > Yes, I was thinking the tapes were Metal Master, as was being discussed > at the beginning. I missed the transition to ES somewhere along the way. > Sorry for my not picking up on this. Delete my previous request. > > Kent > Indiana > > > >>> jmtooley at ce.net 02/25/02 08:41AM >>> > Kent, > Should I now drop your name from the list? > > John > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 11:33 PM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Sony SMM (not Metal-ES) > > > > In a message dated 2/23/2002 11:03:32 PM Central Standard Time, > > khmerideth at anderson.edu writes: > > > > << Tom, > > > > I was thinking it was Metal Master we were talking about also. When > I > > realized it was ES, I dropped out. The two ES 90's I have are good, > but > > am not sure I want to spend $8-$10 on them. If they had been Metal > > Master, I was willing to try it for this amount. This does not mean > the > > ES is not a good tape, it is very good. I was all set to try out > the > > Metal Master, as was originally being discussed. > > > > Kent > > Indiana >> > > > > OK, now I'm confused. The link below is not the Sony Metal ES Pro > but > the > > Metal Master. Yes? > > > > -Sam > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > From khmerideth at anderson.edu Thu Jan 23 15:35:57 2003 From: khmerideth at anderson.edu (Kent Merideth) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 09:35:57 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] APP (History of the Alan Parsons Project) Message-ID: Blues, Add me to the list of participants for this project. Will most likely use a Maxell MX-S 100 for a master to copy mine, while using a TDK SA-X 100 Limited (dark metallic green, heavier than normal shell--like Maxell MX-S or XLII-S shells) for my every-day listener. Reminds me of the "Round-Robin" tapes we use to pass along in the Indiana Recording Club, which was an International Club, not just for people in Indiana or the U.S.A. Hopefully, this time around, the tape will not sit idle at someone's place for a long time. For those of us that take this kind of thing very seriously, the Marathon Tape snag was quite a bummer, which delayed Carlos receiving it to beat his mentioned busy season, plus his statement of reduction/elimination of tape duplicating facilities in his business. Since the APP tape is only to be copied, there should be no problems with misunderstanding of recording levels, Dolby (B or C) on or off, or equalization setting. Back in the early days of cassette tapes, it was quite advantageous to brighten up chrome (Type II) tapes by using 120 micro second eq instead of the suggested 70 micro second eq. This added a little more hiss, but extended the high frequency response. Instead of high frequencies dropping off around 13-15 kHz, it was possible to increase useable response out to 15-17, sometimes 18 kHz. When tape formulations greatly improved, this was a somewhat moot point. But, I still notice the "professionally" duplicated audio cassette tapes that use chrome tape are equalized at 120 micro seconds, with the Type II slots in the top of the shell not being opened. If anyone wants to record over any of these tapes, after covering the record-protect openings, but does NOT have manual bias and eq buttons/switches on their deck; a) there will not be sufficient erase signal to clean the previous signal off the tape, b) there will not be enough record bias to get a strong signal level onto the tape, and c) the equalization may be too bright (exaggerated high frequencies) for enjoyable listening. This is due to the fact the "auto" sensors are looking at a shell that indicates it is a Type I (normal bias and eq) tape. Sorry for the rambling, but this might give some insight to anyone listening to older tapes they did not record, or wanting to re-use "commercial" tapes, containing material they are not interested in and don't know of anyone to pass the tape on to, that would enjoy it. Kent Central Indian, U.S.A. >>> blueswapper at angelfire.com 01/19/03 01:03PM >>> Several months ago, we had a cheerful discussion about an album of oral history and music covering the years covering the well-regarded musical efforts of Alan Parsons and his Alan Parsons Project (APP). Well, I've been listening to that compilation again, and was reminded that it is quite an intriguing effort historically. I finally did transpose the two vinyl discs to a master cassette tape over the holidays, and it does (just barely) fit onto a Maxell XLIIS 100 cassette. Total time of the recording is 99:37 (min:sec). Last summer, a few NakTalkers conveyed interest in having an opportunity to listen and (respectfully) duplicate the album. I suggested that after the Nak Marathon Tape project was complete, we could devise a plan to send a master cassette around to interested individuals who would make cassette duplicates for personal use. Sort of a networked distribution effort based on a commitment to pass the APP cassette to the next person promptly and safely. Well, what do the few who are interested have to say now that we're into the year 2003? Marathon Tape production is slow, yet hopefully will be finished in the future. I could do a limited duplication (using my RX505 as source deck to my ZX7 recording deck) to create maybe two copies that could be sent to primary contacts in the eastern and wester hemispheres of the world. Maybe a plan of action of the two zones being eastern as Europe and Africa, Asia, and western as North and South America. Of course, this all depends upon! enthusiasm and willingness to contribute to a successful effort between us all. Well, I thought as long as I had the idea in front of me this weekend, I would bring that forward for further discussion among my friends. Comments can be sent to me directly at: Best regards, K.J. Bleus --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ra.ah at rcn.com Thu Jan 23 15:40:42 2003 From: ra.ah at rcn.com (Ron) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 09:40:42 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Orange Cap References: <93.29805024.2b613517@aol.com> Message-ID: <3E2FFEEA.F5A7DD0A@rcn.com> Certain capacitors used in Nakamichi decks are bound to fail in time. It is not clear to me what make these caps are (there are no manufacturer markings), but all are colored orange. -- Ron Wwtgraham at aol.com wrote: > > Hello last week I email you on my Dragon, thank for the help. My > question to you is what is the orange cap disease that I been > reading about and what is the effect on the deck having these caps > in them. And thanks you again on my simple fix for my dragon. > William From stan.targowski at attbi.com Thu Jan 23 16:52:21 2003 From: stan.targowski at attbi.com (Stan Targowski) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 09:52:21 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) In-Reply-To: <20030123001105.A3623@herrman.road> Message-ID: I am in Chicago, USA. Mid 30's. My first cassette player/recorder was little kids Panasonic portable in 1975. Then around 1981 I got my first "real" deck, JVC KD-A11. I have had good luck with JVC [as they were affordable] and always dreamed of Nakamichis [they were too expensive at the time]. This is why, at this point, my collection consists of some of the top of the lines from the past like Pioneer CT-F1250, HK-491, Denon 740, JVC KD-A77/DD-99/TD-V66/KD-A8. As far as Nakamichi goes ... CR-7A (had one 1990-1991) CR-2A (bought new in 1990) CR-4A (bought used in 2000) TA-2A (bought new in 1990 - but is sitting in storage, never had luck with this one). TA-4A (bought new in 1991, but exchanged later for Adcom 5500/565 combo) I have a stereo system in more or less each room of my house, and the reference system is CR4A, SONY XA20ES (CD), powered by Adcom and Mirage Speakers. To be honest, I do not record that much on tapes any more (CD-R's are more convenient), but have this nostalgic feeling for precision instruments - this is why I collect some of these units, along with mechanical watches and fountain pens. Stan From Sven.Schultz at t-online.de Thu Jan 23 17:09:50 2003 From: Sven.Schultz at t-online.de (Sven Schultz) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 17:09:50 +0100 Subject: AW: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c2c2f9$e51f8a90$0100000a@amd1333> Dear Mr. Blueswapper - Greetings from Germany - I'm living nearby Frankfurt/Main - Good idea to create a database, here some of my NAK's details... I joined the nakaholics in December 2002 - starting by getting a CR7 - Tape in "mint" condition at Ebay... I've bought 2 years ago a Dragon, remembering I'd owned and recorded a lot of tapes in 1982 with a 582' Nak, which left me for a high End Turntable... The 3-headed Tapes were my favourites: Technics M260 (the cheapest 3head Tape in 1981 I think... (I've been a student with financial shorts) (until today only the motor was changed, it still work's fine for the small money) My first Nakamichi 582 (was changed 1984 in a Rega Planar 3 with Ortophon MC10 System and an SME 3012 tone arm) Then in 2000 I bought a Sony 3 head Tape TC-K81 (now the eraser head was broken, physically, one channel wasn't erasing well, maybe any tip where to buy a head for that deck?) Afterwards a Dragon in 2001 in TOP Condition, the best Tape machine I've ever seen and heard... December 2002 I bought a CR7E, which seems to be a little bit easier to use with some Tapes (SONY UXS for example) than the Dragon. Still completing the Nakamichi 7 - Series (CA, PA, ST and CR7 are now complete, missing a OMS7E/II CD Player) It's fine that Dragon and CR7E were able to be controlled by one Remote Unit (RM7 CA) of the NAK - Preamp! So copying of tapes and comparison between the two tape's are very easy to do. My now 22 years old tape recordings (Chrome Tapes of BASF CR2 or Chrome super) with the Technics Deck were played perfect by the two NAK's, only the treble - Problem with the 582 recordings were existing (seemed that this tape uses EQ 80 instead of EQ 70 in Chrome Position). It seems to me that a 582 should be my next NAK... Best regards Sven Schultz Frankfurt / Germany Mailto:Sven.Schultz at t-online.de -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com] Im Auftrag von The BlueSwapper Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Januar 2003 04:41 An: naktalk at naks.com Cc: blueswapper at angelfire.com Betreff: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) Dear NakTalk friends I'm pleased with the refreshing recent return to Nak related topics, and I'm quite intrigued with the growing international mix of the membership. Being a geographer and cartographer during my early professional career (that was twenty years ago, I'm now an information systems manager involved with geographic information system & global positioning system technologies), I'd like to gather information from NakTalkers to create a spatial database of who you are, where you live, years you've collected Nak gear, decks you possess, et cetera. With such a database of information, I could then easily create a nice global map showing where everyone resides in relation to each other. Selected information could also be attributed to locations and names. And from that a digital colored map image could then be created shared between all participating NakTalkers. This might be a fair amount of work for me, but let's see if there is interest and usefulness for the membership. Haven't you occasionally wondered where someone who posted a message lives in the world? Well, a global location map might be a nice visual compliment to understanding where your NakTalk friends are emailing us world-wide. I'm curious if others have similar feelings about furthering global comradery and understanding. Interested in supporting and furthering my idea? I will wait for your replies, directly to me or via NakTalk. Best regards, K.J. Bleus --- Help keep the blues alive! Give Peace A Chance!!! http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --========= From Ken.Gentry at gilbarco.com Thu Jan 23 17:50:00 2003 From: Ken.Gentry at gilbarco.com (Gentry, Ken) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:50:00 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Sony Metal tapes Message-ID: Anyone had experience with Sony Metal SR or Super Metal Master tapes? Here's some links to info on them: http://www.sel.sony.com/SEL/rmeg/mediatech/indexdir.html http://www.sel.sony.com/SEL/rmeg/audio/cat1.html The yahoo.com link below is a way to pay $15.75 EACH for the Super Metal Masters. Geez, for that kind of money I hope that tape is nice! I've never paid more than about $9 for a metal tape (MA-XG). http://shop.store.yahoo.com/protape/c-90-sony-type-iv.html The Metal SR-100 tapes are available for around $2.50 USD from here: http://www.boutiquescanada.com/Boutiques/qualitaspro/c30949p101670.2.html From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Thu Jan 23 19:32:39 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:32:39 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 strange noise In-Reply-To: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E87@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Message-ID: <000001c2c30d$cf49b2e0$885587d9@oemcomputer> MessageDorian, Tom My ZX-9 did the same thing when I bought it. After a few hours of use, this stopped. But after a few weeks of being left without use, the problem occurred again when it was finally brought to life again. A few hours of use and, again, the problem vanished! Lesson for Graham: the worst thing you can do to a Nakamichi is not to use it! Gra' -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Siomopoulos Sent: 23 January 2003 00:16 To: 'naktalk at naks.com' Subject: RE: [naktalk] ZX-7 strange noise Hi Dorian. It sounds like it could be the idler wheel that sits between the two reel hubs. My ZX9 sometimes makes a vibrating sound just after it finishes rewinding or fast-forwarding and the machine has that brief split second pause before it decides to place the mechinics in the stop mode, that's when it does it. I've been told that this is normal and not to worry about it. In your case if it is doing the noise during the tape slack take-up motion, then it would need a service or a replacement of the rubber on the idler. It's worth doing on the ZX7 - great machine. Hope this helps Dorian. Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: Dorian Dyer [mailto:dorian.dyer at digit6.com] Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2003 11:05 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 strange noise Hello everyone my recently acquired ZX-7 sometimes makes a strange noise and vibration when powering up with a tape inside or when closing the door with a tape inside. Sometimes it works right and it quietly spools the tape briefly after these procedures but most of the time it will not do the wind and it just makes a loud vibrating noise. Everything else seems OK. I am planning on servicing the deck but was wondering if anyone is familiar with this problem. Is it repairable and is it expensive? Dorian Dyer Miami, FL ex-1000 II owner and current owner of a ZX-7 and MR-2 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mdevera at compuserve.com Thu Jan 23 19:39:39 2003 From: mdevera at compuserve.com (Mike deVera) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:39:39 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Sony Metal tapes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000901c2c30e$ca1f42c0$1901000a@c994264e> I have 2 Sony Metal-ES and 12 Sony Metal SR, and noticed that the bias is a perfect 0 and level is a -1 click for the Metal-ES. The Metal SR has to be tweaked 3 clicks on bias and 0 on level using a CR4a. I would assume that would mean the Metal-SR needs more bias. I donned on headphones to hear recording differences, played back on the CR4a and CR7a and noticed that the headroom on the SR Metal is a narrow, compared to ES. Not narrow enough for me to just go out and purchase Metal-ES to replace the Metal-SR. Way different pricing structure. Per previous threads in the past, regarding recording tapes, I haven't read any post that any brand be it TDK, Maxell, BASF or Fuji had scored as high as the Sony Metal Master or Metal-ES. If you know a commercial source of Metal Master or Metal-ES, it would be nice to know where it still can be had, and hopefully not for a exorbitant amount. I've horded just about all the TDK MA and MA-Xs that I'll ever need in my lifetime. -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of Gentry, Ken Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 8:50 AM To: 'naktalk at naks.com' Subject: [naktalk] Sony Metal tapes Anyone had experience with Sony Metal SR or Super Metal Master tapes? Here's some links to info on them: http://www.sel.sony.com/SEL/rmeg/mediatech/indexdir.html http://www.sel.sony.com/SEL/rmeg/audio/cat1.html The yahoo.com link below is a way to pay $15.75 EACH for the Super Metal Masters. Geez, for that kind of money I hope that tape is nice! I've never paid more than about $9 for a metal tape (MA-XG). http://shop.store.yahoo.com/protape/c-90-sony-type-iv.html The Metal SR-100 tapes are available for around $2.50 USD from here: http://www.boutiquescanada.com/Boutiques/qualitaspro/c30949p101670.2.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Thu Jan 23 22:30:49 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:30:49 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] opinions on NAD 613, DR-3 Alan Parsons Project, an d "in a global sense" Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E8B@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Hi James. Is that Sony Ghetto blaster the one with the square looking speakers and weighs as much as a great dane? -----Original Message----- From: James bakner [mailto:jamesbakner at yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2003 8:27 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] opinions on NAD 613, DR-3 Alan Parsons Project, and "in a global sense" Marc - Thanks for the welcoming remarks. I finally got my DR 3 hooked up yesterday. (I had to finish building my CD rack - My CDs were taking up all of my empty rack spaces on my stereo rack ) My first impression was - oh my - This sound is different. I guess you get used to a particular sound, in my case a NAD 613 I had been using for a number of years now. I have not recorded anything yet - I listened to tapes I had, both prerecorded, and tapes I made on my previous machines. But, I listened all day and this evening. My good stereo is at work, although I do not listen critically during the day, I always have music on. (I own a Bookstore in Lexington, Virginia "the Bookery") I found the DR 3 revealing: good cassette recordings sounded good; not so good recordings sounded not so good, and my best recordings sounded awesome. I had a recording on a TDK metal MA tape in Dolby C off a record of the Saint Saens "organ" number 3 symphony. That was the best I had ever heard that tape. (It was origionally recorded on a Kenwood KX660HX deck I had in High School) I had some piano recorded on Sony chrome in Dolby C on that same deck - It also sounded great. I also listened to some Alan Parsons Project. Interestingly, most of my A.P.P. is on prerecorded cassette. On the NAD 613 with "block" repeat, I'd program it to play "Psychobabble" over and over. (After I closed the bookstore.....) I would very much like to get on the "tape tree" and hear some well recorded Alan Parsons Project that was mentioned in one of the posts. After getting this DR 3 and cleaning my stereo rack I have done a couple other things: I ordered a new cartridge for the Thorens Turntable I bought nine months ago on E bay to replace the hideous Technics linear tracking turntable I had in High School. I now might have some worthy analog to feed into the NAK. I also bought off of E bay a NAK BX 125 and an integrated amp for the kitchen at home to replace (don't laugh) an early eighties SONY ghettoblaster. This "naktalk" is great. The loyalty and spirit to keep these machines alive. I have found nothing like it towards any other make of cassette deck. It reminds me a little of my other "hobby" - old Volkswagens. --- kannan_s at vsnl.com wrote: > > Mark > this an excellent welcome note to a new comer! > Kannan > Mhugo at sunint.co.za wrote > > Hi James > > I hope you enjoy your DR3 and congats on the > auction. Never mind that it is not a dual cap, > three header. It will still have many of the > desirable Nak hallmarks. I always have thought the > "Cassette Deck" and "DR" family have a very real, > uncoloured sound - and are a bit diffferent to the > mid-eighties machines, but not in a bad way. I have > a brief review of the DR3 from What Hi-Fi. If you > would like a copy, please post your postal address > and it will be sent. > > I would encourage you to treat your DR3 to a diet of > chrome and, if you can manage it (and find them) > metal tapes. The humble TDK "D" is a respectable > enough type 1, with good consistency and durability > characteristics, but if you have a critical ear, or > for that matter, a special piece of music to record, > your Nak will return generous dividends on demanding > formulations. > > Although your experience with other machines such as > NAD, Kenwood and Yamaha may have revealed > disappointing results with Dolby NR, do not hesitate > to use them on a Nakamichi. The record/replay > losses are, unlike with pratically all other brands, > zero or close to zero. This is one thing that makes > Nakamichi very special and quite possibly why they > never bothered with Dolby "S". If your selection is > some raunchy blues or energetic pop, then setting > your levels a bit higher and recording without dolby > will give a little bit more freedom in the > mid-range. Classical, much jazz and etherial new > age styles benefit from the use of Dolby C which > have the effect of increasing your dynamic range to > around 70dB. For practical purposes, this is > excellent, and while not matching the 100dB or so > typical of compact disc, easily replicates the > typical dynamics you would experience at a live > music venue. > > The crystalloy heads of Nakamichi are able to handle > more level than other heads, without compression. > To what extent this is possible is something you > will need to experiment with. But try a TDK MA and > give yourself a surprise. The more esoteric metals > like TDK MA-XG and That's Metal Suono, due to double > coatings, and sometimes reverse coatings, can take > punishing levels without audible distortion or > compression. My personal experience with Sony Metal > XR, is that it is an exception to this rule, but is > still a very desirable tape. > > The NAD 613 and 614 were surprisingly bright and > breezy sounding machines. Quite stable too. It's > just as well you did "No Dolby" recordings with > those machines in retrospect. Play trim is a clever > control - both NAD and Yamaha have featured it for > years and I must agree having played with my fathers > KX-393, it is far superior than turning the treble > control. Still, it is an electronic intervention > that attempts to correct on the one hand, an > electronic problem (incompatible Dolby encode and > replay performance) and on the other hand a > mechanical problem (azimuth errors). Nakamichi's > approach was to attack the issue of azimuth related > headroom losses more directly, in the mechanical > domain, as you may know already. On Dolby, their > chips seem to be the best available, quite simply. > > The earlier NADs like the 6050C (1984) were more > purist and did not have this play trim feature. > > On the sound differences between CD and cassette, > you can look forward to improvements in this area. > The better three head Naks will make recordings that > are hard to tell from the source. Even two head > Naks feature much higher head saturation levels than > other brands, with a very high signal purity. Deep > controlled bass, informative free-breathing midband > and sparkling treble, that even on headphones will > all but match the source. > > The main difference between CD and other sources is > dynamic range. Bear in mind that when replicating a > live music environment in the home, you would not be > standing in the orchestra pit or standing next to > the speakers (the dynamic equivalent of the > soundboard recording, but with appropriate reduction > is sound pressure levels). Therefore, 100dB dynamic > ranges are "real" in one sense and not in the least > "realistic" in another. At close quarters, say > 2-3,5m listening range, 60-70dB is much closer to > replicating the live experience. > > Ensure your cables are nice thick OFC ones to ensure > low signal loss. > > Good luck with your new DR3. > > Regards, > > Marc > > > > > > >>> jamesbakner at yahoo.com 12/29/02 02:52PM >>> > This is a reply to Javier Perez in August. I have a > NAD 613, which I think is similar to the 614, just > different face plates and controls. I mostly record > FM radio ====.......................... > The information contained in this email is > confidential and may be subject > to legal privilege. 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Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From wheijke at xs4all.nl Thu Jan 23 22:59:06 2003 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:59:06 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: Message-ID: <3E3065AA.17B4209A@xs4all.nl> Male, Age 35, Amsterdam, The Netherlands Multi Nak owner: 582 (my first) 480 482Z (broken, abused technically by previous owner) LX3 (very reliable!) BX300 (broken, needs new pinch rollers) 1000ZXL+NR100 (my pride and joy, bought it in the Bay area, and brought it home myself) 700ZXE ZX7 ZX9 (broken at the moment, orange caps about to be replaced) DRAGON (misfunctioning because of faulty idler) 682ZX (needs fixing, orange cap about to go i guess) 680ZX (just fixed bias by replacing orange caps) 670ZX (needs fixing) 660ZX (needs fixing) 1000 Tri Tracer (needs some work) NR200 HighComII (model A + B) TD700 I guess i'm forgetting some more... Wouter From jvolpatti at earthlink.net Fri Jan 24 00:19:12 2003 From: jvolpatti at earthlink.net (Jim Volpatti) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 15:19:12 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] opinions on NAD 613, DR-3 Alan Parsons Project, and "in a global sense" References: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E8B@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Message-ID: <3E307870.C4FA3FE6@earthlink.net> I don't know about anyone else here but I frankly find the term "ghetto blaster" offensive. Thanks in advance for understanding. Jim Volpatti From rjkent at attbi.com Fri Jan 24 01:41:13 2003 From: rjkent at attbi.com (Robert Kent) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 16:41:13 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Cassette Tapes Message-ID: I found this internet source for tapes. They have a decent selection, and reasonable prices: http://www.cheapbatteries.com/audio.htm Robert Kent From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Fri Jan 24 02:54:54 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:54:54 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 strange noise References: <000001c2c30d$cf49b2e0$885587d9@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <002401c2c34b$9c16d220$fc299bca@smarzuki> Message Excellent point Graham ! That's also happen to be the case on my nak: stuck meter, stuck capstan, switch etc. I wonder why ? Leave your CTS830S for 3 years and it will play just like the day you left it off, right ? (ok, i also accept stones =) Cheers, Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: Graham Nelson To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 1:32 AM Subject: RE: [naktalk] ZX-7 strange noise Dorian, Tom My ZX-9 did the same thing when I bought it. After a few hours of use, this stopped. But after a few weeks of being left without use, the problem occurred again when it was finally brought to life again. A few hours of use and, again, the problem vanished! Lesson for Graham: the worst thing you can do to a Nakamichi is not to use it! Gra' -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Siomopoulos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jvolpatti at earthlink.net Fri Jan 24 06:56:07 2003 From: jvolpatti at earthlink.net (Jim Volpatti) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 21:56:07 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi and cassette resource page References: <000001c2c30d$cf49b2e0$885587d9@oemcomputer> <002401c2c34b$9c16d220$fc299bca@smarzuki> Message-ID: <3E30D576.BAD56196@earthlink.net> I just had another idea for Wouter or KJ's website. How about a resource page with web links, company names and addresses for reliable Nakamichi service, parts and cassette supplies, categorized by region? What do you guys think? Jim Volpatti From nicy at ya.com Fri Jan 24 09:54:57 2003 From: nicy at ya.com (JGascon) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:54:57 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Cassette Tapes References: Message-ID: <003301c2c386$472c1320$8f2b3b50@PcComunero> Kent, Mínimun order outside US $500!!! Javier. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Kent" To: Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 1:41 AM Subject: [naktalk] Cassette Tapes > I found this internet source for tapes. They have a decent selection, and reasonable prices: > > http://www.cheapbatteries.com/audio.htm > > Robert Kent > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Fri Jan 24 12:20:57 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 22:20:57 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] opinions on NAD 613, DR-3 Alan Parsons Project, an d "in a global sense" Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E8F@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Sorry Jim, I think the better name for those Sony heavy weights would be "Boom box" or "spine breaker" :) Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Volpatti [mailto:jvolpatti at earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, 24 January 2003 10:19 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] opinions on NAD 613, DR-3 Alan Parsons Project, and "in a global sense" I don't know about anyone else here but I frankly find the term "ghetto blaster" offensive. 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To the right of it, you will see the two inch wide pulley that drives it. It is the shaft of the pulley that squeaks" (squawks, groans, or whatever). "Lean the deck forward some and apply a drop of oil to the exposed end of the axle shaft, then punch the unit in & out of play mode several times, while you have the unit tilted forward. The noise should disappear instantly." The instructions within the quotes (" "), are what Stephen suggested to me back then. Couldn't find the e-mail, but copied this from my printout, which was in my 680ZX folder, in an "old-time" file cabinet. The noise did not disappear "instantly", but eventually did go away completely. With my 680ZX, the azimuth drive unit, a relatively large black box, was blocking easy access to the pulley shaft, thus the extension on the oiler. It still took me two or three attempts to get the oil in the right spot. From what I can tell, this seems to be a fairly common occurrence when the units sit idle for an extended period of time. Hope this is of some help. Kent Merideth, NOT Robert Kent. P.S. By the way, welcome to the "fold" Robert! Welcome to all the "new" (including you long-time lurkers) participants. >>> dorian.dyer at digit6.com 01/22/03 07:05PM >>> Hello everyone my recently acquired ZX-7 sometimes makes a strange noise and vibration when powering up with a tape inside or when closing the door with a tape inside. Sometimes it works right and it quietly spools the tape briefly after these procedures but most of the time it will not do the wind and it just makes a loud vibrating noise. Everything else seems OK. I am planning on servicing the deck but was wondering if anyone is familiar with this problem. Is it repairable and is it expensive? 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Jim Volpatti Thomas Siomopoulos wrote: > Sorry Jim, I think the better name for those Sony heavy weights would be > "Boom box" or "spine breaker" :) > > Tom Siomopoulos. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Volpatti [mailto:jvolpatti at earthlink.net] > Sent: Friday, 24 January 2003 10:19 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] opinions on NAD 613, DR-3 Alan Parsons Project, > and "in a global sense" > > I don't know about anyone else here but I frankly find the term "ghetto > blaster" > offensive. Thanks in advance for understanding. > > Jim Volpatti From khmerideth at anderson.edu Fri Jan 24 14:44:34 2003 From: khmerideth at anderson.edu (Kent Merideth) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:44:34 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Cassette Tapes Message-ID: Have not ordered from the folks at Terrapin Tapes in over 2 years, so I fear the regular XLII tapes may be the newer version, which has a flimsier J-card and seemingly flimsier tape shell. Yes, the C-60 tapes are $.85 and the C-90 tapes are $.80. Kind of remember they ran a special on the C-90s two or three years ago for $.70, or possibly $.65 for about two weeks before "Gathering of the Vibes" at Camp Creek. Since the XLII-S series has been discontinued for about 2 years, they will likely be the good shells and J-cards. http://ttapes.com/ Kent Merideth Someday, Clark, I mean Robert, and I will have to get together and share our enjoyment of "Nakamainia". >>> rjkent at attbi.com 01/23/03 07:41PM >>> I found this internet source for tapes. They have a decent selection, and reasonable prices: http://www.cheapbatteries.com/audio.htm Robert Kent ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From timbarrett at cox.net Fri Jan 24 17:29:26 2003 From: timbarrett at cox.net (timbarrett at cox.net) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:29:26 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] nak parts Message-ID: <3E312396.10140.789775@localhost> Gentlemen - My email letter to 'parts at nakamichi.com' was just returned to me as undeliverable. Does anyone know if that address has changed without my knowing it, or is that no longer available at all? I believe it's been about a year since I last communicated with Patty via that address. Regards, Tim From jamesbakner at yahoo.com Fri Jan 24 18:34:09 2003 From: jamesbakner at yahoo.com (James bakner) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:34:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] opinions on NAD 613, DR-3 Alan Parsons Project, an d "in a global sense" In-Reply-To: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E8B@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Message-ID: <20030124173409.16271.qmail@web40308.mail.yahoo.com> Tom - The Sony is not quite as heavy as a great dane, and has large round speakers, the largest I have seen on a Sony. The model is CFS-500, I think. I had to order a belt for the tape drive, and when I saw the service manual at the repair shop, I think it was a 1982 model or so. I normally use the word "Jam Box"; I use the word "ghetto blaster" only in a descriptive sense to describe the box itself - to me, it implies the "classic", large jam boxes from twenty years ago, not made anymore. I have some smaller vintage jam boxes I use to play cassettes in the back yard when I am working under the car under my shade tree. "boom box" to me implies the portables you buy nowadays.... The first time I saw the word "boom box" was in a "Best Buy" store advertizement in a newspaper. All of my old jam boxes are made in Japan, and Sonys of that vintage have this nifty search feature where the rewind key would pop up at the beginning of the song if you press play and rewind at the same time - great for listening to songs over and over again until I had the lyrics memorized.......Thanks for making me aware of the language I am using.... and we'll talk to you later...---James Bakner --- Thomas Siomopoulos wrote: > Hi James. Is that Sony Ghetto blaster the one with > the square looking > speakers and weighs as much as a great dane? __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From kannan_s at vsnl.com Fri Jan 24 19:19:44 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 23:49:44 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] nak parts Message-ID: <20030124181944.F19A2114912@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From timbarrett at cox.net Fri Jan 24 19:35:05 2003 From: timbarrett at cox.net (timbarrett at cox.net) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 13:35:05 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] nak parts In-Reply-To: <20030124181944.F19A2114912@webmail.vsnl.com> Message-ID: <3E314109.14013.EB9FA4@localhost> Well, I just gave it a shot and called the 800 number. No one picks up, and it should be 10:30 A.M. their time. This doesn't look good. Tim On 24 Jan 2003 at 23:49, kannan_s at vsnl.com wrote: From: kannan_s at vsnl.com To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] nak parts Copies to: Send reply to: naktalk at naks.com Date sent: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 23:49:44 +0530 (IST) > You will find strange things happening at Nakamichi US website - no > more parts, service or Phone numbers to contact. I would not be > surprised to see that US office shifting to Malasia or Thailand soon. > Probably Salim would be able to visit their parts center and procure > parts for us! Did any of US based Nak talkers call Patti recently??? > Kannan > > timbarrett at cox.net > wrote > Gentlemen - > > My email letter to 'parts at nakamichi.com' was just returned to me as > undeliverable. Does anyone know if that address has changed without > my knowing it, or is that no longer available at all? I believe it's > been about a year since I last communicated with Patty via that > address. > > Regards, > Tim > ========-------------------------------------------------------------- > ----========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========-------------------------------------------------------------- > ----========= > > > ========-------------------------------------------------------------- > ----========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========-------------------------------------------------------------- > ----========= From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Fri Jan 24 20:16:24 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 02:16:24 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] nak parts References: <20030124181944.F19A2114912@webmail.vsnl.com> Message-ID: <003d01c2c3dd$55c29740$be1a9bca@smarzuki> Nah, had a hard time contacting Nakamichi's new Singapore headoffice last year. I was tryng to get old nak pb head and test tape - but it seemed the 'new Nak' only interested in selling lifestyle or music station system / parts. Anyway you might want to try contacting Eric Goh: eric at nakamichi.com or egks78 at pacific.net.sg. Best regards, Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: kannan_s at vsnl.com To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 1:19 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] nak parts You will find strange things happening at Nakamichi US website - no more parts, service or Phone numbers to contact. I would not be surprised to see that US office shifting to Malasia or Thailand soon. Probably Salim would be able to visit their parts center and procure parts for us! Did any of US based Nak talkers call Patti recently??? Kannan timbarrett at cox.net wrote Gentlemen - My email letter to 'parts at nakamichi.com' was just returned to me as undeliverable. Does anyone know if that address has changed without my knowing it, or is that no longer available at all? I believe it's been about a year since I last communicated with Patty via that address. Regards, Tim From roleo at telus.net Fri Jan 24 20:25:08 2003 From: roleo at telus.net (Roland Alford) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:25:08 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] nak parts References: <20030124181944.F19A2114912@webmail.vsnl.com> <003d01c2c3dd$55c29740$be1a9bca@smarzuki> Message-ID: <003101c2c3de$4ea816f0$8075059a@desktop> Here's the new Nakamichi USA Parts number: 310-392-1155 You have to ask for parts which goes to Patti's line. Both times I have tried it recently, I have got her voice mail. I never left a message. Seems like Nakamichi is going down the tubes though. Have you guys seen the crappy toy cars that carry the "Nakamichi" brand name? Is nothing sacred??!! --Roland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Salim Marzuki" To: Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] nak parts > > Nah, had a hard time contacting Nakamichi's new Singapore headoffice last > year. I was tryng to get old nak pb head and test tape - but it seemed the > 'new Nak' only interested in selling lifestyle or music station system / > parts. > > Anyway you might want to try contacting Eric Goh: eric at nakamichi.com or > egks78 at pacific.net.sg. > > Best regards, > Salim SM > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: kannan_s at vsnl.com > To: naktalk at naks.com > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 1:19 AM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] nak parts > > > You will find strange things happening at Nakamichi US website - no more > parts, service or Phone numbers to contact. I would not be surprised to see > that US office shifting to Malasia or Thailand soon. Probably Salim would be > able to visit their parts center and procure parts for us! > Did any of US based Nak talkers call Patti recently??? > Kannan > > timbarrett at cox.net > wrote > Gentlemen - > > My email letter to 'parts at nakamichi.com' was just returned to me as > undeliverable. > Does anyone know if that address has changed without my knowing it, or is > that no > longer available at all? I believe it's been about a year since I last > communicated > with Patty via that address. > > Regards, > Tim > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > From g_valkov at hotmail.com Fri Jan 24 20:54:16 2003 From: g_valkov at hotmail.com (George Valkov) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:54:16 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Niro Message-ID: In case anyone is interested in what Niro Nkamichi is up to now: http://niro.net/nirotek/Default.htm Enjoy! George _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From timbarrett at cox.net Fri Jan 24 21:16:10 2003 From: timbarrett at cox.net (timbarrett at cox.net) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:16:10 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] nak parts In-Reply-To: <003101c2c3de$4ea816f0$8075059a@desktop> Message-ID: <3E3158BA.20284.1482CB2@localhost> Thanks for the number. I just spoke to Patti (she doesn't have my part) and things are indeed getting very strange out there. We exchanged new contact information, but there's no telling how long that will remain valid. Tim On 24 Jan 2003 at 11:25, Roland Alford wrote: From: "Roland Alford" To: Subject: Re: [naktalk] nak parts Send reply to: naktalk at naks.com Date sent: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:25:08 -0800 > Here's the new Nakamichi USA Parts number: > > 310-392-1155 > > You have to ask for parts which goes to Patti's line. Both times I > have tried it recently, I have got her voice mail. I never left a > message. > > Seems like Nakamichi is going down the tubes though. Have you guys > seen the crappy toy cars that carry the "Nakamichi" brand name? Is > nothing sacred??!! > > --Roland > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Salim Marzuki" > To: > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 11:16 AM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] nak parts > > > > > > Nah, had a hard time contacting Nakamichi's new Singapore headoffice > > last year. I was tryng to get old nak pb head and test tape - but > > it seemed > the > > 'new Nak' only interested in selling lifestyle or music station > > system / parts. > > > > Anyway you might want to try contacting Eric Goh: eric at nakamichi.com > > or egks78 at pacific.net.sg. > > > > Best regards, > > Salim SM > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: kannan_s at vsnl.com > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 1:19 AM > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] nak parts > > > > > > You will find strange things happening at Nakamichi US website - no > > more parts, service or Phone numbers to contact. I would not be > > surprised to > see > > that US office shifting to Malasia or Thailand soon. Probably Salim > > would > be > > able to visit their parts center and procure parts for us! > > Did any of US based Nak talkers call Patti recently??? > > Kannan > > > > timbarrett at cox.net > > wrote > > Gentlemen - > > > > My email letter to 'parts at nakamichi.com' was just returned to me as > > undeliverable. Does anyone know if that address has changed without > > my knowing it, or is that no longer available at all? I believe > > it's been about a year since I last communicated with Patty via that > > address. > > > > Regards, > > Tim > > > > > > > ========-------------------------------------------------------------- > ----== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com > mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > ========-------------------------------------------------------------- > ----== ======= > > > > ========-------------------------------------------------------------- > ----========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========-------------------------------------------------------------- > ----========= From rjkent at attbi.com Fri Jan 24 22:30:04 2003 From: rjkent at attbi.com (Robert Kent) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 13:30:04 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Analog to Digital Conversion Message-ID: I am considering copying some of my tapes, and perhaps LPs as well, to CD. I have done this using input thru the sound card on the computer, and using Cool Edit 2000 to record the files to the hard drive, then EZCDCreator to burn the CD. It is a slow process......much more tedious than recording LPs to my CR-7A. Does anyone have experience with using either an internal or external stereo (2 channel) Analog to Digital converter to bypass the sound card (inputting through the USB or Firewire ports), and hopefully get a little better quality when recording the files to the hard drive? Any product suggestions? Or is this a fool's mission? Robert Kent From vzimakov at mtu-net.ru Fri Jan 24 22:46:53 2003 From: vzimakov at mtu-net.ru (Vladimir) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 00:46:53 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] Analog to Digital Conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <632.030125@mtu-net.ru> Hello Robert, You may try Sound Blaster EXTIGY USB external 24/96 soundcard. It is much better for this purpose than any internal soundcard. Regards, Vladimir. ñóááîòà, 25 ÿíâàðÿ 2003, you wrote to me: RK> I am considering copying some of my tapes, and perhaps LPs as well, to CD. I have done this using RK> input thru the sound card on the computer, and using Cool Edit 2000 to record the files to the hard RK> drive, then EZCDCreator to burn the CD. It is a slow process......much more tedious than recording RK> LPs to my CR-7A. RK> Does anyone have experience with using either an internal or external stereo (2 channel) Analog to RK> Digital converter to bypass the sound card (inputting through the USB or Firewire ports), and RK> hopefully get a little better quality when recording the files to the hard drive? Any product RK> suggestions? Or is this a fool's mission? RK> Robert Kent RK> ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= RK> Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist RK> To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk RK> ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= Best regards, Vladimir mailto:vzimakov at mtu-net.ru From ezio_lucenti at tin.it Fri Jan 24 23:13:47 2003 From: ezio_lucenti at tin.it (Ezio) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 23:13:47 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Analog to Digital Conversion In-Reply-To: <632.030125@mtu-net.ru> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030124225638.00a6e170@box.tin.it> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Fri Jan 24 23:44:02 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 22:44:02 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] 10 Thumbs Man mends a Cassette Deck!!! In-Reply-To: <3E3158BA.20284.1482CB2@localhost> Message-ID: <001201c2c3fa$17ec5600$54e1193e@oemcomputer> I invite general applause and congratulations for fixing my first cassette deck! The ReVox stopped working in Play ... and I discovered what the problem was and fixed it! Yes, I know - small beer for most of you guys but, remember, I'm the guy who followed Stephens good instructions and still ended up goosing a perfectly good DAT, and of frying the tweeters out of 4 tweeters from three sets of speakers ... I am usually Death when I get out my screw driver and soldering iron. But for a change ... glowing feeling of satisfaction!!! Had to share that ... Gra' > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 From bjgrady at pacbell.net Fri Jan 24 23:49:45 2003 From: bjgrady at pacbell.net (John) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:49:45 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] 10 Thumbs Man mends a Cassette Deck!!! In-Reply-To: <001201c2c3fa$17ec5600$54e1193e@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <000501c2c3fa$e465eac0$5900a8c0@SUPPORT.RENTANAPT.COM> as I was reading your post, the tears started flowing.... Cal John. From colem at georgetown.edu Fri Jan 24 23:54:39 2003 From: colem at georgetown.edu (colem at georgetown.edu) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:54:39 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] MR-1 problem Message-ID: <6fd11170040d.70040d6fd111@georgetown.edu> Hi, Can anyone help me solve a problem with a MR-1 that I've just gotten? All functions work except that when the 'play' button is pushed the tape transport moves up and down a couple of times and then stops. When the transport is brought up to contact the tape the hub begins to move but stops as soon as the transport moves down and out of contact with the tape. Mike From John at jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk Sat Jan 25 00:07:57 2003 From: John at jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk (John Walker) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 23:07:57 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Analog to Digital Conversion References: Message-ID: <3E31C74D.2050401@jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk> Robert asked: "Does anyone have experience with using either an internal or external stereo (2 channel) Analog toDigital converter to bypass the sound card (inputting through the USB or Firewire ports), and hopefully get a little better quality when recording the files to the hard drive? Any product suggestions?" Yes, I do, and no it is not a foolish mission - it is well worth doing. I use a Media Assistance USB-One offboard unit, with 20-bit converters. This is no longer state-of-the-art, and other USB designs are available from companies like M-Audio. The performance is substantially better than the onboard soundcard. You should ensure that you have the latest ASIO drivers - check the supplier's website. You will need to enable direct memory addressing (DMA) on your hard disc. If you do not, you will get many, many glitches if you try to re-record without shutting down each CoolEdit session. Do this as follows: Right click on 'My Computer'; select the 'Properties' menu item, and go to the 'Device Manager' tab. You will get a list of devices. Click on the '+' sign next to 'Disk drives', select your hard disc drive: mine appears as 'Generic IDE disk type 47'. Highlight this, then select 'Properties', and the 'Settings' tab. Enable DMA in the check box, and click 'OK' all the way back up the chain. You may then need to re-boot. It is less complicated than it sounds, and has no effect on other functions of your computer. (It might improve video performance as well!) There is quite a bit of useful guidance on Syntrillium's website, where I learned to do this. John Walker From bfvasil at attbi.com Sat Jan 25 00:22:33 2003 From: bfvasil at attbi.com (Bruno Vasil) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 18:22:33 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Analog to Digital Conversion/Terratec-EWX 24/96 References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030124225638.00a6e170@box.tin.it> Message-ID: <3E31CAB9.8010709@attbi.com> I found this soundcard on the MusiciansFriend site here in the U.S. for $169.99.. the link is: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=030124150548066031124105079584/search/g=rec/s=specials/detail/base_id/52845 or go to: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ and put Terratec into the SEARCH box and all the Terratc products will come up.. Ezio wrote: > > Please, do NOT consider Sound Blaster products more than a toy good > for kids . > There are (very few) affordable boards that can make a respectable > task when coming to analog to digi conversion + post editing + > restauration/pristine + CD rec. + (eventually) conversion to MP3 . > I strongly suggest you look to www.terratec.com > site and have a look to the EWX 24/96 board . > It costs about 350$ or Euros (often available from eBay Germany for a > lower amount of money) and it is provided with Wavelab Lite by > Steiberg ( www.steinberg.net ) . > I ordinarily record on disk sampling at 96KHz and 24bit hardware 32bit > software then I restaure / pristine (declicker is almost vital > !!!!!!!!!!! when recording vinyls and Noise Gate / de-hisser when > recording from tapes ... ) always at 32 bit ... and just at the end of > the tasks I am obliged by red-book orange-book standards to transform > the files into 41KHz sampling + 16bit ... or my Naka CD readers won't > read the CDs (if I would eventually have a writer capable of 32bit > writing ! ... he he he he ) . > Bruno -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ezio_lucenti at tin.it Sat Jan 25 00:33:19 2003 From: ezio_lucenti at tin.it (Ezio) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 00:33:19 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Analog to Digital Conversion/Terratec-EWX 24/96 In-Reply-To: <3E31CAB9.8010709@attbi.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030124225638.00a6e170@box.tin.it> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030125003121.00a6bcf0@box.tin.it> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdieguez at wanadoo.es Sat Jan 25 00:44:04 2003 From: jdieguez at wanadoo.es (Javi Dieguez) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 00:44:04 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Analog to Digital Conversion References: Message-ID: <004a01c2c402$9ad627a0$f6c8253e@javi> I also do this task quite a bit!! In fact I use my computer to record anything analog or digital, and I strive for the best quality possible (that's why I just bought a nak!!!) I have found that you can ger REALLY good quality using an standalone DAT deck to perform the A/D conversion. Most sony's will have a "monitor mode", so that they are performing the A/D conversion of anything you throw at their line-ins, and will output a digital stream out their optical (and/or) coaxial outputs. You can find DAT decks for cheap in ebay. No matter if they are listed as broken / having mechanical problems, etc. as far as the electronics are OK. Then you just need to use a digital soundcard to get that stream into your computer without any further losses. But be careful, the digital soundcard must be of decent quality (don't get soundblasters...they resample/mess with the input and add noise). You can get something as cheap as a zoltrix nittinghale (sp) that will do the job. Or a midiman delta dio. For those with an ISA slot, I recommend (and use!) a zefiro ZA2. ----- Mensaje original ----- De: Robert Kent Para: Enviado: viernes 24 de enero de 2003 22:30 Asunto: [naktalk] Analog to Digital Conversion > Does anyone have experience with using either an internal or external stereo (2 channel) Analog to > Digital converter to bypass the sound card (inputting through the USB or Firewire ports), and > hopefully get a little better quality when recording the files to the hard drive? Any product > suggestions? Or is this a fool's mission? From ezio_lucenti at tin.it Sat Jan 25 01:23:02 2003 From: ezio_lucenti at tin.it (Ezio) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 01:23:02 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Analog to Digital Conversion In-Reply-To: <004a01c2c402$9ad627a0$f6c8253e@javi> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030125011847.00a767e0@box.tin.it> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmtooley at ce.net Sat Jan 25 01:56:41 2003 From: jmtooley at ce.net (John M. Tooley) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 19:56:41 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] 10 Thumbs Man mends a Cassette Deck!!! References: <001201c2c3fa$17ec5600$54e1193e@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <014d01c2c40c$a014bb00$64116343@johnnyrotten> What did you do to the none spinning capstan? John T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Nelson" To: Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 5:44 PM Subject: [naktalk] 10 Thumbs Man mends a Cassette Deck!!! > I invite general applause and congratulations for fixing my first cassette > deck! The ReVox stopped working in Play ... and I discovered what the > problem was and fixed it! Yes, I know - small beer for most of you guys > but, remember, I'm the guy who followed Stephens good instructions and still > ended up goosing a perfectly good DAT, and of frying the tweeters out of 4 > tweeters from three sets of speakers ... I am usually Death when I get out > my screw driver and soldering iron. But for a change ... glowing feeling of > satisfaction!!! > > Had to share that ... > > Gra' > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > From blueswapper at angelfire.com Sat Jan 25 03:13:34 2003 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 18:13:34 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] MrBleus NakTalkin' (In A Global Sense) Message-ID: Good news, we've got nearly fifty contributors to the NakTalkers global list. I'm thinking this weekend about how to manage all of this information, and certainly we should prepare a searchable database for potential use later amongst us all. MS Access is the probable database software package I will use. Now, I've been dabbling with ideas on the Nak Global Map project, and that is taking shape. There is a fine geographic mapping package called ArcExplorer that is free to all users. I will use a more powerful GIS mapping package to create and manage the map info and spatial database (which will be integrated with the tabular MS Access database). More news about that concept as things come together. If you're curious about mapping in the digital age, have a look at the ArcExplorer and Geography Network websites: http://www.esri.com/software/arcexplorer/index.html http://www.geographynetwork.com/ More good news, Wouter has agreed to have us able to post the NakTalk Members database and global maps on the Naks.Com server. So, when thing do come together, I believe we have a home for our project results. Grateful thanks to Wouter for his support, I'll work with him to further define the logistics and deployment of our little project. I promise we won't use little orange (notorious cap-like) astericks for symbology on the map, maybe the small version of the Nakamichi logo will be more pleasing? Probs with copyright use though?? Oh well, we'll think of something appropriate (who's got ideas for a NakTalkers map logo/symbol?). Best regards, keep on Nakkin'..... K.J. Bleus Madison, Wisc USA Lat 43004'N, Long 89024'W --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper Psssst.... If you want to look-up your geographic location in latitude and longitude coordinates, have a try at using the World Atlas interface: http://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/imageg.htm ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus From bk11 at thuntek.net Sat Jan 25 03:22:37 2003 From: bk11 at thuntek.net (Stephen Sank) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 19:22:37 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] MR-1 problem References: <6fd11170040d.70040d6fd111@georgetown.edu> Message-ID: <007101c2c418$a1f6f210$1d3442cf@steve> Your MR-1 is fairly certainly suffering from dirty mode sensing switches. Not hard to cure. The proper way to start is to go to a real electronics parts store, i.e., not Radio Shack, and buy a "contact burnishing tool" of the narrowest width they have. Should cost 2 or 3 bucks. Next, pop the top cover off the MR-1 & try to play a tape. Corresponding with the heads moving up & down, you will see a small motor driving a white plastic cam, which has a bank of three leaf switches riding it. These are the mode sensing switches. Near the tip of each metal switch leaf, you will see a tiny wedge-shaped bit, with a corresponding bit on the opposite leaf. Turn off the deck. Stick your burnishing tool, which you may have to bend to get it in there, in between these two wedge bits on each switch. Apply a little finger pressure to close them together if they aren't already closed, and move the tool back & forth between them 5 or 10 times each. Now try it again & see if it is cured. The improper way is to substitute a strip of index card or other suitable stiff paper item, with the end dampened with WD-40 or Caig Deoxit, and simply substitute it for the burnishing tool. This should cure it. If not, repeat the procedure one more time. If it still misbehaves, it is a circuitry problem that should be seen by a Nak-experienced professional. Stephen Sank, Owner & Ribbon Mic Restorer Talking Dog Transducer Company http://stephensank.com 5517 Carmelita Drive N.E. Albuquerque, New Mexico [87111] (temporarily using home address, due to imminent shop move) 505-332-0336 Auth. Nakamichi & McIntosh servicer Payments preferred through Paypal.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 3:54 PM Subject: [naktalk] MR-1 problem > Hi, > > Can anyone help me solve a problem with a MR-1 that I've just gotten? > All functions work except that when the 'play' button is pushed the > tape transport moves up and down a couple of times and then stops. > When the transport is brought up to contact the tape the hub begins to > move but stops as soon as the transport moves down and out of contact > with the tape. > > Mike > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > From blueswapper at angelfire.com Sat Jan 25 03:26:46 2003 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 18:26:46 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Niro's Dream Realised..... Message-ID: Holy snookeroos, old Niro Nakamichi has gone to the highest levels of audio design and manufacturing. Not mechanical transport gear, rather power amplification gear. A preamp control engine and power engine combo that exceeds the wildest dreams of any audio enthusiast. http://niro.net/nirotek/control.html http://niro.net/nirotek/power.html Truly, the dream engines for the Nak ZX series cassette decks!!! But whom amongst us can afford such high end (and high cost)technology? K.J. Bleus --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus From roleo at telus.net Sat Jan 25 03:40:46 2003 From: roleo at telus.net (Roland Alford) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 18:40:46 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] MR-1 problem References: <6fd11170040d.70040d6fd111@georgetown.edu> <007101c2c418$a1f6f210$1d3442cf@steve> Message-ID: <000b01c2c41b$2a32f960$8075059a@desktop> Stephen!! Glad you back!! --Roland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Sank" To: Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] MR-1 problem > Your MR-1 is fairly certainly suffering from dirty mode sensing switches. > Not hard to cure. The proper way to start is to go to a real electronics > parts store, i.e., not Radio Shack, and buy a "contact burnishing tool" of > the narrowest width they have. Should cost 2 or 3 bucks. Next, pop the top > cover off the MR-1 & try to play a tape. Corresponding with the heads > moving up & down, you will see a small motor driving a white plastic cam, > which has a bank of three leaf switches riding it. These are the mode > sensing switches. Near the tip of each metal switch leaf, you will see a > tiny wedge-shaped bit, with a corresponding bit on the opposite leaf. Turn > off the deck. Stick your burnishing tool, which you may have to bend to get > it in there, in between these two wedge bits on each switch. Apply a little > finger pressure to close them together if they aren't already closed, and > move the tool back & forth between them 5 or 10 times each. Now try it > again & see if it is cured. > The improper way is to substitute a strip of index card or other suitable > stiff paper item, with the end dampened with WD-40 or Caig Deoxit, and > simply substitute it for the burnishing tool. > This should cure it. If not, repeat the procedure one more time. If it > still misbehaves, it is a circuitry problem that should be seen by a > Nak-experienced professional. > > Stephen Sank, Owner & Ribbon Mic Restorer > Talking Dog Transducer Company > http://stephensank.com > 5517 Carmelita Drive N.E. > Albuquerque, New Mexico [87111] (temporarily using home address, due to > imminent shop move) > 505-332-0336 > Auth. Nakamichi & McIntosh servicer > Payments preferred through Paypal.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 3:54 PM > Subject: [naktalk] MR-1 problem > > > > Hi, > > > > Can anyone help me solve a problem with a MR-1 that I've just gotten? > > All functions work except that when the 'play' button is pushed the > > tape transport moves up and down a couple of times and then stops. > > When the transport is brought up to contact the tape the hub begins to > > move but stops as soon as the transport moves down and out of contact > > with the tape. > > > > Mike > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Sat Jan 25 05:39:29 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:39:29 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] nak parts Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E90@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Sure have Roland, they were selling these cars in bulk just before Christmas. I did a double take when I saw the name on the car, was not impressed. What's next, Nakamichi yogurt? :) -----Original Message----- From: Roland Alford [mailto:roleo at telus.net] Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2003 6:25 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] nak parts Here's the new Nakamichi USA Parts number: 310-392-1155 You have to ask for parts which goes to Patti's line. Both times I have tried it recently, I have got her voice mail. I never left a message. Seems like Nakamichi is going down the tubes though. Have you guys seen the crappy toy cars that carry the "Nakamichi" brand name? Is nothing sacred??!! --Roland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Salim Marzuki" To: Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] nak parts > > Nah, had a hard time contacting Nakamichi's new Singapore headoffice last > year. I was tryng to get old nak pb head and test tape - but it seemed the > 'new Nak' only interested in selling lifestyle or music station system / > parts. > > Anyway you might want to try contacting Eric Goh: eric at nakamichi.com or > egks78 at pacific.net.sg. > > Best regards, > Salim SM > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: kannan_s at vsnl.com > To: naktalk at naks.com > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 1:19 AM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] nak parts > > > You will find strange things happening at Nakamichi US website - no more > parts, service or Phone numbers to contact. I would not be surprised to see > that US office shifting to Malasia or Thailand soon. Probably Salim would be > able to visit their parts center and procure parts for us! > Did any of US based Nak talkers call Patti recently??? > Kannan > > timbarrett at cox.net > wrote > Gentlemen - > > My email letter to 'parts at nakamichi.com' was just returned to me as > undeliverable. > Does anyone know if that address has changed without my knowing it, or is > that no > longer available at all? I believe it's been about a year since I last > communicated > with Patty via that address. > > Regards, > Tim > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From enoyes at snet.net Sat Jan 25 06:49:01 2003 From: enoyes at snet.net (Ed Noyes) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 00:49:01 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] nak parts References: <3E314109.14013.EB9FA4@localhost> Message-ID: <3E32254B.BC05AD3D@snet.net> The person who I believe can provide an exact pulse on the status of Nak parts and Patty would be Jeff Galin, he is very tight with that organization. Last time I ordered belts (about 9 months ago), Patty did tell me that she strongly suggested that I order anything I might need in the very near future... one of those "you didn't hear it from me..." kind of comments. It would be sad if the Torrence office is now past tense and I'll particularly miss Patty in parts who was one of the most unique characters I've ever encountered! Ed timbarrett at cox.net wrote: > Well, I just gave it a shot and called the 800 number. No one picks up, and it should > be 10:30 A.M. their time. This doesn't look good. > > Tim > > On 24 Jan 2003 at 23:49, kannan_s at vsnl.com wrote: > > From: kannan_s at vsnl.com > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] nak parts > Copies to: Send reply to: naktalk at naks.com > > > Date sent: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 23:49:44 +0530 (IST) > > > You will find strange things happening at Nakamichi US website - no > > more parts, service or Phone numbers to contact. I would not be > > surprised to see that US office shifting to Malasia or Thailand soon. > > Probably Salim would be able to visit their parts center and procure > > parts for us! Did any of US based Nak talkers call Patti recently??? > > Kannan > > > > timbarrett at cox.net > > wrote > > Gentlemen - > > > > My email letter to 'parts at nakamichi.com' was just returned to me as > > undeliverable. Does anyone know if that address has changed without > > my knowing it, or is that no longer available at all? I believe it's > > been about a year since I last communicated with Patty via that > > address. > > > > Regards, > > Tim > > ========-------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > ========-------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----========= > > > > > > ========-------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > ========-------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----========= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Mhugo at sunint.co.za Sat Jan 25 09:30:04 2003 From: Mhugo at sunint.co.za (Mark Hugo) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:30:04 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Graham: Pioneer CTS-830S Question Message-ID: Hi Graham, Does the Pioneer CTS-830S have a manual bias over-ride after running S/Auto BLE XD? I'm glad you enjoy the dual cap Pioneer. And the slanted Ref Master Mechanism is indeed very gentle and compliant, while being very steady. I personally enjoy the sound quality which generally means the "generic" Pioneer characteristics. (Up-front, assertive, one reviewer I recall accused one of their higher CTS series as being "a touch too keen!!!"). Dolby S is dead-handy without a doubt. Have you tried calibrating a good type 1 and recording some well mastered pop/jazz without Dolby. I tried that with one of Scarlet's albums, "Naked", to a TDK AD, and was really impressed. Oh well, I supposed I'm about to be flamed, good and proper now!! Cheers, Marc >>> graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk 01/17/03 10:36PM >>> I'm ALMOST 48 (birthday next month, guys ... get buying those presents for me ...) and live near Liverpool in the UK. I started with cassette way back 29 years ago when I bought a Sony unit that packed it's own amplifier and speakers. I've still got it ... for old times sake, not to use. I upgraded to a Aiwa AD1800 (top of the range in the UK at the time I bought it) about 3 years later, which gave good service for a number of years and still doesn't sound too bad. At that time I also heard about Nakamichi ... but they were way out of my price range. A couple or so years ago, I picked up a brand new Pioneer CTS830S @ half price. I know some of you aren't impressed by the Pioneer decks but this one does an excellent job in Dolby S and is brilliant at bringing life back into very old recordings. It will also play and record on tapes as long as C120 without any problems ... can't say that about a Nak! However ... I got my first Nak', a BX-1, courtesy of Stephen almost two years ago. A few months later, fortune smiled on me, I got a small windfall and acquired a ZX-9 from a fellow in Holland. Oh, that ZX-9 .... who needs Dolby S with one of these??? Last year I also bought a RX-505 on e-Bay. I've never touched, let alone heard it because it went straight to Stephen for servicing and repair and is now on sale on e-Bay. (Bidding is currently at the ridiculously low price of $375 ... I hope it goes higher than that!) I have also recently bought a ReVox B215 but have not yet received it - it's in transit from Paris. Luckily, there is a ReVox service engineer only an hour's drive from here, so I am hoping this deck will offer me god service, too. My next purchase ... I might be tempted by a CR7, for the azimuth adjust' playback, as an alternative to the Pioneer but, more likely, I think I may go for a HD recorder with built-in CD/R ... Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > The BlueSwapper > Sent: 17 January 2003 03:41 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Cc: blueswapper at angelfire.com > Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > > Dear NakTalk friends > > I'm pleased with the refreshing recent return to Nak related > topics, and I'm quite intrigued with the growing international > mix of the membership. Being a geographer and cartographer > during my early professional career (that was twenty years ago, > I'm now an information systems manager involved with geographic > information system & global positioning system technologies), I'd > like to gather information from NakTalkers to create a spatial > database of who you are, where you live, years you've collected > Nak gear, decks you possess, et cetera. With such a database of > information, I could then easily create a nice global map showing > where everyone resides in relation to each other. Selected > information could also be attributed to locations and names. And > from that a digital colored map image could then be created > shared between all participating NakTalkers. This might be a > fair amount of work for me, but let's see if there is interest > and usefulness for the membership. > > Haven't you occasionally wondered where someone who posted a > message lives in the world? Well, a global location map might be > a nice visual compliment to understanding where your NakTalk > friends are emailing us world-wide. I'm curious if others have > similar feelings about furthering global comradery and understanding. > > Interested in supporting and furthering my idea? I will wait for > your replies, directly to me or via NakTalk. > > Best regards, > > K.J. Bleus > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Give Peace A Chance!!! > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient/s. If you are not the intended recipient, you cannot use, copy, distribute, disclose or retain the email or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying to this message and to permanently delete it and all attachments from your computer. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present in this email and the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. From Mhugo at sunint.co.za Sat Jan 25 08:39:08 2003 From: Mhugo at sunint.co.za (Mark Hugo) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 09:39:08 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi and cassette resource page Message-ID: Excellent idea Jim, really. That would be very useful. I have some data to contribute for that, public stuff, but it is at least together and ready. Regards, Marc >>> jvolpatti at earthlink.net 01/24/03 07:56AM >>> I just had another idea for Wouter or KJ's website. How about a resource page with web links, company names and addresses for reliable Nakamichi service, parts and cassette supplies, categorized by region? What do you guys think? Jim Volpatti ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient/s. If you are not the intended recipient, you cannot use, copy, distribute, disclose or retain the email or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying to this message and to permanently delete it and all attachments from your computer. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present in this email and the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. From Mhugo at sunint.co.za Sat Jan 25 09:05:04 2003 From: Mhugo at sunint.co.za (Mark Hugo) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:05:04 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] OT: rubber reconditioner:SALIM: B+O 4002 DRIVE BELT Message-ID: Hi Salim, Sorry about being slow on the uptake here. There is a B+O turntable user on another group (high_end_audio_video) to which I also subscribe who is up in Nairobi, Kenya. As it happens, he seems to have a useful contact with B+O in Denmark, so I shall follow this up with him. His name is Karani Weli and is quite a character. Certainly, he seems to have had some luck in this area, particularly with their specific cartridges. I'll get back to you, Regards, Marc >>> smarzuki at indosat.net.id 01/17/03 05:56PM >>> Hi all, Does anybody know how to recondition a very old rubber belt ? A turntable belt has snapped and the only spare is also old and brittle. Any idea to save the belt is much appreciated ... it is a hard-to-find 35 inch beogram 4002 belt. Thanks much in advance, Salim SM The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient/s. If you are not the intended recipient, you cannot use, copy, distribute, disclose or retain the email or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying to this message and to permanently delete it and all attachments from your computer. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present in this email and the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sat Jan 25 10:34:07 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 09:34:07 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] 10 Thumbs Man mends a Cassette Deck!!! In-Reply-To: <014d01c2c40c$a014bb00$64116343@johnnyrotten> Message-ID: <001d01c2c454$e833c8c0$54e1193e@oemcomputer> There was a lot of dirt behind the big weight (technical term!)and the board out of which the end of the capstan extends inside the deck. Dust, I'd guess. Loosened it all with some tape head cleaner and used a piece of paper in the gap between board and weight and manually turned the weight. That freed it up and it started to turn on his own steam again. Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > John M. Tooley > Sent: 25 January 2003 00:57 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] 10 Thumbs Man mends a Cassette Deck!!! > > > What did you do to the none spinning capstan? > > John T. > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sat Jan 25 11:18:03 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:18:03 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Graham: Pioneer CTS-830S Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002601c2c45b$0b90c420$54e1193e@oemcomputer> Hi Mark, yes there is manual over ride, which allows you to adjust the bias tuning up or down. I am told by some engineers that the guts of these decks leave a lot to be desired. Not being an engineer that worries me less than what it sounds like! Sure it doesn't match my ZX-9 but then that would be an unfair comparison anyway - ZX-9 old retail $1200? CTS-830S retail $600?? (It was originally £600 in the UK - I bought mine as new old stock, just after they'd been discontinued, for £149, which is a lot less than I paid for my 3rd or 4th hand ZX-9.) Nevertheless, the Pioneer records piano very well - very stable - and .... it actually beats the ZX-9 in that it can replay Dolby S recordings very well, and its FLEX circuit works very well on bringing to life cassettes recorded on other decks and faded old recordings. Sure, azimuth playback, on a CR7 may over come the first of those even better but I don't have that on a ZX-9 and no Nak' can bring back to life faded recordings, not like the Pioneer CTS830S. Also, the Pioneer can handle delicate tapes much better ... i.e. it will record on and play back tapes longer than a C90! I guess the way it brakes when it gets to the end of a fast rewind or fast forward has a lot to do with that. In contrast, my ZX-9 murdered three nice C110 metal tapes ... just after I'd recorded on them! Then, record onto a good metal tape, on Doby B onto both ZX9 and CTS830S, and play back ... the difference isn't really that great. But record on the CTS830S with Dolby S and the ZX9 on Dolby B or C ... I doubt if many people could immediatly tell the difference. Of course I can but then, I've been listening to both decks for quite long while and got used to the subtle differences. Thus, the ZX-9 is still my first choice for recording and playback. Now I'll probably get flamed, too! Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Mark Hugo > Sent: 25 January 2003 08:30 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Graham: Pioneer CTS-830S Question > > > Hi Graham, > > Does the Pioneer CTS-830S have a manual bias over-ride after > running S/Auto BLE XD? > > I'm glad you enjoy the dual cap Pioneer. And the slanted Ref > Master Mechanism is indeed very gentle and compliant, while being > very steady. I personally enjoy the sound quality which > generally means the "generic" Pioneer characteristics. > (Up-front, assertive, one reviewer I recall accused one of their > higher CTS series as being "a touch too keen!!!"). Dolby S is > dead-handy without a doubt. Have you tried calibrating a good > type 1 and recording some well mastered pop/jazz without Dolby. > I tried that with one of Scarlet's albums, "Naked", to a TDK AD, > and was really impressed. > > Oh well, I supposed I'm about to be flamed, good and proper now!! > > Cheers, > > Marc > > > > > >>> graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk 01/17/03 10:36PM >>> > I'm ALMOST 48 (birthday next month, guys ... get buying those presents for > me ...) and live near Liverpool in the UK. I started with > cassette way back > 29 years ago when I bought a Sony unit that packed it's own amplifier and > speakers. I've still got it ... for old times sake, not to use. > I upgraded > to a Aiwa AD1800 (top of the range in the UK at the time I bought > it) about > 3 years later, which gave good service for a number of years and still > doesn't sound too bad. At that time I also heard about Nakamichi ... but > they were way out of my price range. > > A couple or so years ago, I picked up a brand new Pioneer CTS830S @ half > price. I know some of you aren't impressed by the Pioneer decks but this > one does an excellent job in Dolby S and is brilliant at bringing > life back > into very old recordings. It will also play and record on tapes > as long as > C120 without any problems ... can't say that about a Nak! However ... > > I got my first Nak', a BX-1, courtesy of Stephen almost two years ago. A > few months later, fortune smiled on me, I got a small windfall > and acquired > a ZX-9 from a fellow in Holland. Oh, that ZX-9 .... who needs > Dolby S with > one of these??? Last year I also bought a RX-505 on e-Bay. I've never > touched, let alone heard it because it went straight to Stephen for > servicing and repair and is now on sale on e-Bay. (Bidding is > currently at > the ridiculously low price of $375 ... I hope it goes higher than that!) > > I have also recently bought a ReVox B215 but have not yet > received it - it's > in transit from Paris. Luckily, there is a ReVox service engineer only an > hour's drive from here, so I am hoping this deck will offer me > god service, > too. > > My next purchase ... I might be tempted by a CR7, for the azimuth adjust' > playback, as an alternative to the Pioneer but, more likely, I think I may > go for a HD recorder with built-in CD/R ... > > Gra' > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > The BlueSwapper > > Sent: 17 January 2003 03:41 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Cc: blueswapper at angelfire.com > > Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) > > > > > > Dear NakTalk friends > > > > I'm pleased with the refreshing recent return to Nak related > > topics, and I'm quite intrigued with the growing international > > mix of the membership. Being a geographer and cartographer > > during my early professional career (that was twenty years ago, > > I'm now an information systems manager involved with geographic > > information system & global positioning system technologies), I'd > > like to gather information from NakTalkers to create a spatial > > database of who you are, where you live, years you've collected > > Nak gear, decks you possess, et cetera. With such a database of > > information, I could then easily create a nice global map showing > > where everyone resides in relation to each other. Selected > > information could also be attributed to locations and names. And > > from that a digital colored map image could then be created > > shared between all participating NakTalkers. This might be a > > fair amount of work for me, but let's see if there is interest > > and usefulness for the membership. > > > > Haven't you occasionally wondered where someone who posted a > > message lives in the world? Well, a global location map might be > > a nice visual compliment to understanding where your NakTalk > > friends are emailing us world-wide. I'm curious if others have > > similar feelings about furthering global comradery and understanding. > > > > Interested in supporting and furthering my idea? I will wait for > > your replies, directly to me or via NakTalk. > > > > Best regards, > > > > K.J. Bleus > > > > --- > > Help keep the blues alive! Give Peace A Chance!!! > > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html > > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/bluesnak99.html > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > > Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > > --------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > > --------========= > > > > --- > > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject > to legal privilege. 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Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 From ra.ah at rcn.com Sat Jan 25 14:25:20 2003 From: ra.ah at rcn.com (Ron) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 08:25:20 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Analog to Digital Conversion References: Message-ID: <3E329040.79ECAF53@rcn.com> Robert Kent wrote: > > I am considering copying some of my tapes, and perhaps LPs as well, to CD. I have done this using > input thru the sound card on the computer, and using Cool Edit 2000 to record the files to the hard > drive, then EZCDCreator to burn the CD. It is a slow process......much more tedious than recording > LPs to my CR-7A. > > Does anyone have experience with using either an internal or external stereo (2 channel) Analog to > Digital converter to bypass the sound card (inputting through the USB or Firewire ports), and > hopefully get a little better quality when recording the files to the hard drive? Any product > suggestions? Or is this a fool's mission? > > Robert Kent Most sound cards are not designed (or priced) foe serious Audio work. Take a look at Arny Krueger's web site for some boards recommended for your purpose. http://www.pcavtech.com/soundcards/reports/ -- Ron From Mhugo at sunint.co.za Sat Jan 25 09:47:09 2003 From: Mhugo at sunint.co.za (Mark Hugo) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:47:09 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] OT: Yes / ELP: Salim and Tim Message-ID: Hi Tim and Salim, I recently (over the Dec hols) had a friend do me a great recording off the original (1970s) LP releases of Tarkus and Trilogy by ELP. The audio chain was Sondek+ Cirkus+ Lingo/SME V/Transfiguration Esprit via Electrocompaniet Phono-stage direct to Nak CR7E. Media was BASF Ref Maxima. The results were incredible, better than I ever remember. It was great hearing those guys after all these years. He doesn;t have a copy of "Brain Salad Surgery" so I'm still looking !! Tim, I'll look out for Triumvirate. Thanks. Cheers, Marc >>> smarzuki at indosat.net.id 01/19/03 06:49PM >>> Hi Tim, I only have a copy of Triumvirate's Pompeii and loved it ! Too bad that's about the only album available here. About ELP records, Tarkus was recorded before the live show, yet sound gorgeous. And the music ... simply incomparable to what we have thesedays. :-( Best regards, Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: timbarrett at cox.net To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 4:52 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] OT: Yes / ELP Hi Salim- Another ELP fan over here ... it's not just 'welcome back my friends', but many of their recordings seem to suffer from lack of quality, specially the early albums, which is unfortunate. Are you familiar with the German group Triumvirate? They were contemporary with ELP. Look for the 'Illusions', 'old loves', or 'spartacus' albums. Cheers, Tim B On 19 Jan 2003 at 3:08, Salim Marzuki wrote: ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient/s. If you are not the intended recipient, you cannot use, copy, distribute, disclose or retain the email or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying to this message and to permanently delete it and all attachments from your computer. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present in this email and the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. From Mhugo at sunint.co.za Sat Jan 25 10:14:13 2003 From: Mhugo at sunint.co.za (Mark Hugo) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:14:13 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Sony SMM - John Tooley Message-ID: Hi John, That can be frustrating. However, I did recenly find a source, as far as I can recall, in Greece, with stocks of Sony Metal Master - the whitish ceramic beasts. I shall hunt down the details, hopefully today, for those with strong magnetic constitutions!! Regards, Marc >>> jmtooley at ce.net 01/23/03 02:51PM >>> I asked my friend in Swit. about doing it and didn't get any response, enough said ;-) John T. Quoting Mike deVera : > Sorry to dig up old topics, but back in Feb 2002, there was a long running > thread on whether John would do a group purchase for these particular Sony > metal tapes. Did that just sputter out? > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-naktalk at ns.naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at ns.naks.com]On > Behalf Of John M. Tooley > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 9:43 AM > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Sony SMM (not Metal-ES) > > > Back in for 10. Okay. I must email my friend in Switzerland and see if he > has contacted them. > > John > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kent Merideth > To: naktalk at naks.com > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 12:24 PM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Sony SMM (not Metal-ES) > > > John, > > I just noticed the Subject field indicates Sony SMM (not Metal-ES). I > just committed the error I was running into with Car & Driver magazine, > when > I requested a replacement issue, which had portions of some of the pages > torn completely out. I indicated what month was involved in the Subject > field, but failed to include it in the body of the letter, so they said > they > could not send a replacement until they knew which one was requested. > > Now you can put me back down for 10 of these if they do not go over > $10.00 each, delivered. Should have put my brain in gear, before engaging > my fingers. Hope I pay better attention to the details the rest of the > week. Sorry for the confusion, again. > > Kent > > > >>> khmerideth at anderson.edu 02/25/02 11:47AM >>> > > John, > > Yes, I was thinking the tapes were Metal Master, as was being discussed > at the beginning. I missed the transition to ES somewhere along the way. > Sorry for my not picking up on this. Delete my previous request. > > Kent > Indiana > > > >>> jmtooley at ce.net 02/25/02 08:41AM >>> > Kent, > Should I now drop your name from the list? > > John > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 11:33 PM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Sony SMM (not Metal-ES) > > > > In a message dated 2/23/2002 11:03:32 PM Central Standard Time, > > khmerideth at anderson.edu writes: > > > > << Tom, > > > > I was thinking it was Metal Master we were talking about also. When > I > > realized it was ES, I dropped out. The two ES 90's I have are good, > but > > am not sure I want to spend $8-$10 on them. If they had been Metal > > Master, I was willing to try it for this amount. This does not mean > the > > ES is not a good tape, it is very good. I was all set to try out > the > > Metal Master, as was originally being discussed. > > > > Kent > > Indiana >> > > > > OK, now I'm confused. The link below is not the Sony Metal ES Pro > but > the > > Metal Master. 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The content of this email, which may include one or more attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient/s. If you are not the intended recipient, you cannot use, copy, distribute, disclose or retain the email or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying to this message and to permanently delete it and all attachments from your computer. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present in this email and the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. From Mhugo at sunint.co.za Sat Jan 25 11:19:04 2003 From: Mhugo at sunint.co.za (Mark Hugo) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 12:19:04 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] James..... your DR-3 and music for the kitchen!! Message-ID: Howzit James (to use a SA colloquialism), That Great Dane in the kitchen must go (or rather, be asked to leave). Well, Graham started this!! Seriously, nothing wrong with the Sony for culinary mellows. At least it's not a "Yotaka or Yang-Sin (or some other non-descript make from China). I read with interest you experiences with playing some old tapes on your DR-3 and noted your observations on results from different cassette decks. Isn't Saint-Saens Syph. 3 "Organ" amazing. That's a really complex and powerful piece of music (extraordinary real bass), and the very sort that data-reduced formats fall apart on. The steady transport of the Nak will do justice to recording piano which can show up wow and flutter components on cassette decks rather quickly. Speaking of Chopin, I was just yesterday listening to a recording made off air (on BASF Chrome Dioxid Super II) of a remarkable young Italian pianist doing memorable jiustice to Chopins Piano Concerto 2 in a live piano competition recorded some years ago, His name, Fabio Bedini. I know Martha Argerich is touted as the standard, but sometimes the inspiration of the moment............... Your fun has only started - it's recording next. And well done on the BX-125. It's also a geat (and hardy) deck. And the Alan Parson's.....you certainly have broad musical tastes!! I too will climb on Bleu's APP offer. Which Thoren's record deck are you using. Are you considering going the MC route? I am preesently considering a Thorens TD-125 with Agostini's Black Widow arm and an entry level moving coil. Cheers, Marc The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient/s. If you are not the intended recipient, you cannot use, copy, distribute, disclose or retain the email or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying to this message and to permanently delete it and all attachments from your computer. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present in this email and the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. From Mhugo at sunint.co.za Sat Jan 25 11:33:29 2003 From: Mhugo at sunint.co.za (Mark Hugo) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 12:33:29 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Sony Metal tapes: Opinions on Sony Metal SR Message-ID: I have never used Sony Metal Masters, but have used Metal SR. I have found them very different to other metals in that they have a low noise floor, nealry as low as quiet type IIs (not as quiet as the pure natural CrO2s from BASF in the mid-eighties, but nearly. Also, they are more sensitive to excessive level (more so than other metals, taking TDK MA or Fuji Metal-Z as a comparison). As stated below, they are a tad duller too, assuming bias adjust is maintained at the detent. On the upside they share with other metals a more powerful tonality, taut definition and overall expressiveness than the majority of type IIs. Incidently, recording without Dolby on Metal SR is consequently rewarded due to the above virtues. Cheers, Marc >>> Ken.Gentry at gilbarco.com 01/23/03 06:50PM >>> Anyone had experience with Sony Metal SR or Super Metal Master tapes? Here's some links to info on them: http://www.sel.sony.com/SEL/rmeg/mediatech/indexdir.html http://www.sel.sony.com/SEL/rmeg/audio/cat1.html The yahoo.com link below is a way to pay $15.75 EACH for the Super Metal Masters. Geez, for that kind of money I hope that tape is nice! I've never paid more than about $9 for a metal tape (MA-XG). http://shop.store.yahoo.com/protape/c-90-sony-type-iv.html The Metal SR-100 tapes are available for around $2.50 USD from here: http://www.boutiquescanada.com/Boutiques/qualitaspro/c30949p101670.2.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient/s. If you are not the intended recipient, you cannot use, copy, distribute, disclose or retain the email or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying to this message and to permanently delete it and all attachments from your computer. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present in this email and the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. From Mhugo at sunint.co.za Sat Jan 25 11:48:03 2003 From: Mhugo at sunint.co.za (Mark Hugo) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 12:48:03 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] 120uS Type IIs: Kent in Indiana Message-ID: Hi Kent That was very interesting. I have several duplicate pre-recordings of material on just such cassettes (in new condition) and of course, it occurred to me to "recycle" them. The excessive brightness issue occurred on one deck, but I haven't expereinced the inability to erase properly yet. However, I may have been using a TASCAM 112 or one of the Naks to overide EQ, without realizing the need per se. I never even bothered to look at the type-recognition slots at the top!! I enjoyed your discourse on the APP exercise, the tapes you intend using, and for what. Thanks again, Marc The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient/s. If you are not the intended recipient, you cannot use, copy, distribute, disclose or retain the email or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying to this message and to permanently delete it and all attachments from your computer. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present in this email and the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. From jmtooley at ce.net Sat Jan 25 16:51:06 2003 From: jmtooley at ce.net (John M. Tooley) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:51:06 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] 10 Thumbs Man mends a Cassette Deck!!! References: <001d01c2c454$e833c8c0$54e1193e@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <004701c2c489$92cb5d00$2d106343@johnnyrotten> Sounds like she could do with a clean and tune-up. John T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Nelson" To: Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 4:34 AM Subject: RE: [naktalk] 10 Thumbs Man mends a Cassette Deck!!! > There was a lot of dirt behind the big weight (technical term!)and the board > out of which the end of the capstan extends inside the deck. Dust, I'd > guess. Loosened it all with some tape head cleaner and used a piece of > paper in the gap between board and weight and manually turned the weight. > That freed it up and it started to turn on his own steam again. > > > Gra' > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > John M. Tooley > > Sent: 25 January 2003 00:57 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] 10 Thumbs Man mends a Cassette Deck!!! > > > > > > What did you do to the none spinning capstan? > > > > John T. > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > From roleo at telus.net Sat Jan 25 17:35:04 2003 From: roleo at telus.net (Roland Alford) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 08:35:04 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Analog to Digital Conversion References: <3E329040.79ECAF53@rcn.com> Message-ID: <001901c2c48f$b71c5550$8075059a@desktop> There is also another option: If you're not prepared to shell out big bucks for an "audiophile" sound card, many professional audio places rent good quality pro CD recorders by the week. It will probably run you $30.00 for a week's rental and you can do your work in that time frame. I took this route once and wasn't disappointed. They rented me a HHB CDR-850 and it was great. But be warned, you're going to want to buy a deck after you try this. Like many, I have an ongoing desire to create digital recordings, and so I ended up buying a deck. I now have a TASCAM CD-RW2000 which I picked up for $425.00 used but in like new condition. Roland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron" To: Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Analog to Digital Conversion > > Robert Kent wrote: > > > > I am considering copying some of my tapes, and perhaps LPs as well, to CD. I have done this using > > input thru the sound card on the computer, and using Cool Edit 2000 to record the files to the hard > > drive, then EZCDCreator to burn the CD. It is a slow process......much more tedious than recording > > LPs to my CR-7A. > > > > Does anyone have experience with using either an internal or external stereo (2 channel) Analog to > > Digital converter to bypass the sound card (inputting through the USB or Firewire ports), and > > hopefully get a little better quality when recording the files to the hard drive? Any product > > suggestions? Or is this a fool's mission? > > > > Robert Kent > > Most sound cards are not designed (or priced) foe serious > Audio work. Take a look at Arny Krueger's web site for some > boards recommended for your purpose. > > http://www.pcavtech.com/soundcards/reports/ > > -- Ron > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > From wjw at warwick.net Sat Jan 25 17:43:25 2003 From: wjw at warwick.net (Bill Wheatley) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:43:25 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Analog to Digital Conversion References: <3E329040.79ECAF53@rcn.com> Message-ID: <3E32BEAD.6D6994E8@warwick.net> Hi Robert, I don't know about 'by-passing' the soundcard. Maybe someone else knows if this is possible. I have been involved in a project of transferring 7" reels and cassettes to CD's for a couple of years now, and I'll tell you what I know, and what I'm using. I did some online research and consulted several 'sound experienced' people I know before I chose this setup. First, as Ron said, you need a good sound card if you want good results. The better the sound card, the better the results. I've been using the Lynx One card. It was rated as 'one of the top 10' when I got it a couple years ago. It works fine for me. It has analog and digital 'in and out' cables, and I think it is capable of 24 bit, or at least 20 bit- the new ones, or other cards, may be capable of 32 bit. I use 16 bit, because you have to reconvert everything back to 16 bit anyway when you go to burn an audio CD. My initial and somewhat limited experience with sampling at a higher bit rate and then reconverting it to 16 bit was that it could actually make the recording sound more 'noisey'. Others may disagree with me on this. The main point is: you need a very good quality sound card to get good results. Second, you need some good software. I use the "Sound Forge" software from Sonic Foundry. "Cool Edit" may serve you just as well- I'm not familiar with it. I'm using the 4.5 version of Sound Forge, which was what was available when I started. I think it's up to 6.0 now. I also got the 2.0 Noise Reduction plug-in to go with it, as it's much more advanced and versatile than the noise reduction features that come with the 'basic' version. I find that Soundforge has some very good features for LP and 78 restoration (click, pop, and rumble removal)which have several easy to use default modes, but which can also be manually adjusted. Interestingly enough, the vinyl restoration will also work on an LP or 78 that has been recorded to tape and then put into the computer, although I'd imagine that it would be best to record the LP or 78 directly from a turntable into the computer. The 2.0 Noise Reduction plug-in handles tape hiss very well. Sound Forge has lots and lots of features and is a very 'deep' program, but it's fairly easy to learn how to use it effectively for what you want to do. There's a book, "Sound Forge Power", written by one of their technicians, that I've found useful and a little simpler than the extensive 'Help' section that comes included with the software. This set up has served me well ( and I don't work for either company, by the way). You can run any analog or digital source directly into the computer and then work on the 'file' you've created until you get the results you're looking for. The more RAM you have, the faster any processing you do to the recording will be. You can do processes like normalization, equalization and noise reduction in seconds on a short recording, but each process can take several minutes on a longer recording, and that's using 256K of RAM. All initial recording into the computer has to be done in 'real time', of course, and then it just depends on how much you want to process your files before you burn them to CD. Of course it's going to take more time than just recording an LP to cassette, but it becomes less tedious once you get the hang of it. So, this is my setup. I've been satisfied with it so far. It's not 'cheap', though. Probably a total of about $700-$900 for the soundcard and the software. Others may have less expensive solutions. Bill > Robert Kent wrote: > > > > I am considering copying some of my tapes, and perhaps LPs as well, to CD. I have done this using > > input thru the sound card on the computer, and using Cool Edit 2000 to record the files to the hard > > drive, then EZCDCreator to burn the CD. It is a slow process......much more tedious than recording > > LPs to my CR-7A. > > > > Does anyone have experience with using either an internal or external stereo (2 channel) Analog to > > Digital converter to bypass the sound card (inputting through the USB or Firewire ports), and > > hopefully get a little better quality when recording the files to the hard drive? Any product > > suggestions? Or is this a fool's mission? > > > > Robert Kent From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Sat Jan 25 18:49:32 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 00:49:32 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] MR-1 problem - RX 202 counter References: <6fd11170040d.70040d6fd111@georgetown.edu> <007101c2c418$a1f6f210$1d3442cf@steve> Message-ID: <000001c2c49e$89b347e0$8a299bca@smarzuki> Hi Stephen, good to see you back on naktalk ! I have a question regarding RX 202 counter 'template' which is a round reflective paper with black cross and mounted behind take up reel. The sensor did not receive sufficient light (?) from the reflective paper and as a result even though the reel is turning, tape counter did not move and transport stopped. This is the second time I notice such problem (never on BX) (reason to own 202s at a good price =) and my workaround is to glue pieces of aluminum paper on top of the shiny part. It worked, but the counter doesn't go as smooth as original. My question: is there any possible electronic modification to make the sensor more sensitive ? Or will it shorten the life of sensor ? Best regards, Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Sank To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] MR-1 problem Your MR-1 is fairly certainly suffering from dirty mode sensing switches. Not hard to cure. The proper way to start is to go to a real electronics parts store, i.e., not Radio Shack, and buy a "contact burnishing tool" of the narrowest width they have. Should cost 2 or 3 bucks. Next, pop the top cover off the MR-1 & try to play a tape. Corresponding with the heads moving up & down, you will see a small motor driving a white plastic cam, which has a bank of three leaf switches riding it. These are the mode sensing switches. Near the tip of each metal switch leaf, you will see a tiny wedge-shaped bit, with a corresponding bit on the opposite leaf. Turn off the deck. Stick your burnishing tool, which you may have to bend to get it in there, in between these two wedge bits on each switch. Apply a little finger pressure to close them together if they aren't already closed, and move the tool back & forth between them 5 or 10 times each. Now try it again & see if it is cured. The improper way is to substitute a strip of index card or other suitable stiff paper item, with the end dampened with WD-40 or Caig Deoxit, and simply substitute it for the burnishing tool. This should cure it. If not, repeat the procedure one more time. If it still misbehaves, it is a circuitry problem that should be seen by a Nak-experienced professional. Stephen Sank, Owner & Ribbon Mic Restorer Talking Dog Transducer Company http://stephensank.com 5517 Carmelita Drive N.E. Albuquerque, New Mexico [87111] (temporarily using home address, due to imminent shop move) 505-332-0336 Auth. Nakamichi & McIntosh servicer Payments preferred through Paypal.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 3:54 PM Subject: [naktalk] MR-1 problem > Hi, > > Can anyone help me solve a problem with a MR-1 that I've just gotten? > All functions work except that when the 'play' button is pushed the > tape transport moves up and down a couple of times and then stops. > When the transport is brought up to contact the tape the hub begins to > move but stops as soon as the transport moves down and out of contact > with the tape. > > Mike > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From blueswapper at angelfire.com Sat Jan 25 19:46:04 2003 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:46:04 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Re: APP History Distribution Message-ID: Dear NakTalkers...... Please excuse my indulgence, I'm just trying to gather the few fellows interested in the APP History cassette distribution. Graham, Kannan, Kent, Marc, Ron, other NakTalkers interested in the Alan Parsons Project (APP) oral history cassette tape distribution, email me directly with your email and surface mailing addresses. Essential information that I will require to pull logistics together for the project. To avoid clogging up NakTalk discussions, email me direct at . Kindly use the subject title "Re: APP History Distribution". Thanks for your cooperation. Update on the cassette preparation will be sent to you directly (off-line from NakTalk, I'll create a specific email distrib list) as soon as we can gather all comers to the cassette distribution. I'm doing the master cassette preparation this afternoon. Get in-touch with me then, let's have the show fully on the road! Best regards, keep on Nakkin'..... K.J. Bleus Madison, Wisc USA Lat 43004'N, Long 89024'W ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Help keep the blues alive! Spread the word!!! http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html Psssst.... If you want to look-up your geographic location in latitude and longitude coordinates, have a try at using the World Atlas interface: http://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/imageg.htm ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus From ezio_lucenti at tin.it Sat Jan 25 19:48:53 2003 From: ezio_lucenti at tin.it (Ezio) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 19:48:53 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Analog to Digital Conversion In-Reply-To: <3E32BEAD.6D6994E8@warwick.net> References: <3E329040.79ECAF53@rcn.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030125194809.00aaddd0@box.tin.it> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Sat Jan 25 21:00:59 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 03:00:59 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] OT: Yes / ELP: Salim and Tim References: Message-ID: <003d01c2c4ac$967a1f40$8a299bca@smarzuki> What an LP system ! It's definitely refreshing to hear these recordings again (I also missed Brain Salad) especially using 'current' technology. Which one do you think made the biggest change compared to first time we hear those LPs, stylus or speakers ? Mark, thanks for the lead on beogram belt. I like the turntable but too bad the installed mmc is probably already brittle and doesn't sound as good as yesteryears. Best regards, Salim SM PS: Any recommendation on yes/elp/others live show dvd ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Hugo To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] OT: Yes / ELP: Salim and Tim Hi Tim and Salim, I recently (over the Dec hols) had a friend do me a great recording off the original (1970s) LP releases of Tarkus and Trilogy by ELP. The audio chain was Sondek+ Cirkus+ Lingo/SME V/Transfiguration Esprit via Electrocompaniet Phono-stage direct to Nak CR7E. Media was BASF Ref Maxima. The results were incredible, better than I ever remember. It was great hearing those guys after all these years. He doesn;t have a copy of "Brain Salad Surgery" so I'm still looking !! Tim, I'll look out for Triumvirate. Thanks. Cheers, Marc From jamesbakner at yahoo.com Sat Jan 25 21:00:36 2003 From: jamesbakner at yahoo.com (James bakner) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 12:00:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] James..... your DR-3 and music for the kitchen!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030125200036.69409.qmail@web40304.mail.yahoo.com> Marc - The Thorens I have is model TD 145 with the stock tonearm. I bought it from a man here in Virginia who upgraded to a Linn. He had all the cables on the Thorens upgraded to "Audioquest". After receiving my Nak deck and getting it hooked up; I got excited to get the Thorens running: it did not come with a cartridge. The previous owner recommended a "Grado" cartridge and said that there was an independent stereo store in Roanoke that carried Grado cartridges. Even though it is only an hour away, I rarely get to the city, and did not forsee anytime in the next month that I could get there during the day. After reading the directions for the Thorens on how to install the cartridge (My old Technics had a "P-mount" cartridge) I realized I would need a mirror to set the cartridge up properly. So, I ordered a mirror and an inexpensive "Walco" cartridge from "Turntablebasics.com" and they should be in the mail next week...... One thing I do miss about living in the city are the independent stereo stores with the nice equipment..... even though I always did more looking and listening than buying. One thing nice about this modern world and computers is that it brings people together from far away with common interests; And E bay and other site makes it possible to find good deals on equipment that were impossible to find in the old days. Back when I was in High School in Dallas and then College in Austin I would kill an entire day every month or two going to all of the Pawn shops looking for interesting stereo pieces. For all of the time spent; I did not buy much (I had less money then, too) but it was fun. We'll talk to you later, James Bakner --- Mark Hugo wrote: > Howzit James (to use a SA colloquialism), > > That Great Dane in the kitchen must go (or rather, > be asked to leave). Well, Graham started this!! > > Seriously, nothing wrong with the Sony for culinary > mellows. At least it's not a "Yotaka or Yang-Sin > (or some other non-descript make from China). > > I read with interest you experiences with playing > some old tapes on your DR-3 and noted your > observations on results from different cassette > decks. > > Isn't Saint-Saens Syph. 3 "Organ" amazing. That's a > really complex and powerful piece of music > (extraordinary real bass), and the very sort that > data-reduced formats fall apart on. The steady > transport of the Nak will do justice to recording > piano which can show up wow and flutter components > on cassette decks rather quickly. Speaking of > Chopin, I was just yesterday listening to a > recording made off air (on BASF Chrome Dioxid Super > II) of a remarkable young Italian pianist doing > memorable jiustice to Chopins Piano Concerto 2 in a > live piano competition recorded some years ago, His > name, Fabio Bedini. I know Martha Argerich is > touted as the standard, but sometimes the > inspiration of the moment............... > > Your fun has only started - it's recording next. > And well done on the BX-125. It's also a geat (and > hardy) deck. > > And the Alan Parson's.....you certainly have broad > musical tastes!! I too will climb on Bleu's APP > offer. > > Which Thoren's record deck are you using. Are you > considering going the MC route? I am preesently > considering a Thorens TD-125 with Agostini's Black > Widow arm and an entry level moving coil. > > Cheers, > > Marc __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From bk11 at thuntek.net Sat Jan 25 21:43:47 2003 From: bk11 at thuntek.net (Stephen Sank) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:43:47 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] MR-1 problem - RX 202 counter References: <6fd11170040d.70040d6fd111@georgetown.edu><007101c2c418$a1f6f210$1d3442cf@steve> <000001c2c49e$89b347e0$8a299bca@smarzuki> Message-ID: <018501c2c4b2$76738460$1d3442cf@steve> I've been "laying low" so as not to get further behind on my workload than I already am, and due to being in the midst of moving my shop. The only problem I ever have with the reel sensing is finding, once in a very great while, a bad photosensor behind the reel. Have you tried cleaning the sensor's little lenses? The only other thing I can suggest beyond what you've done is to further blacken the black parts of the reel sticker, just in case the sensor's not getting a good absence of reflection in between the foils. Stephen Sank, Owner & Ribbon Mic Restorer Talking Dog Transducer Company http://stephensank.com 5517 Carmelita Drive N.E. Albuquerque, New Mexico [87111] (temporarily using home address, due to imminent shop move) 505-332-0336 Auth. Nakamichi & McIntosh servicer Payments preferred through Paypal.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Salim Marzuki" To: Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] MR-1 problem - RX 202 counter > > Hi Stephen, good to see you back on naktalk ! > > I have a question regarding RX 202 counter 'template' which is a round > reflective paper with black cross and mounted behind take up reel. The > sensor did not receive sufficient light (?) from the reflective paper and as > a result even though the reel is turning, tape counter did not move and > transport stopped. > > This is the second time I notice such problem (never on BX) (reason to own > 202s at a good price =) and my workaround is to glue pieces of aluminum > paper on top of the shiny part. It worked, but the counter doesn't go as > smooth as original. My question: is there any possible electronic > modification to make the sensor more sensitive ? Or will it shorten the > life of sensor ? > > Best regards, > Salim SM > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stephen Sank > To: naktalk at naks.com > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 9:22 AM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] MR-1 problem > > > Your MR-1 is fairly certainly suffering from dirty mode sensing switches. > Not hard to cure. The proper way to start is to go to a real electronics > parts store, i.e., not Radio Shack, and buy a "contact burnishing tool" of > the narrowest width they have. Should cost 2 or 3 bucks. Next, pop the top > cover off the MR-1 & try to play a tape. Corresponding with the heads > moving up & down, you will see a small motor driving a white plastic cam, > which has a bank of three leaf switches riding it. These are the mode > sensing switches. Near the tip of each metal switch leaf, you will see a > tiny wedge-shaped bit, with a corresponding bit on the opposite leaf. Turn > off the deck. Stick your burnishing tool, which you may have to bend to get > it in there, in between these two wedge bits on each switch. Apply a little > finger pressure to close them together if they aren't already closed, and > move the tool back & forth between them 5 or 10 times each. Now try it > again & see if it is cured. > The improper way is to substitute a strip of index card or other suitable > stiff paper item, with the end dampened with WD-40 or Caig Deoxit, and > simply substitute it for the burnishing tool. > This should cure it. If not, repeat the procedure one more time. If it > still misbehaves, it is a circuitry problem that should be seen by a > Nak-experienced professional. > > Stephen Sank, Owner & Ribbon Mic Restorer > Talking Dog Transducer Company > http://stephensank.com > 5517 Carmelita Drive N.E. > Albuquerque, New Mexico [87111] (temporarily using home address, due to > imminent shop move) > 505-332-0336 > Auth. Nakamichi & McIntosh servicer > Payments preferred through Paypal.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 3:54 PM > Subject: [naktalk] MR-1 problem > > > > Hi, > > > > Can anyone help me solve a problem with a MR-1 that I've just gotten? > > All functions work except that when the 'play' button is pushed the > > tape transport moves up and down a couple of times and then stops. > > When the transport is brought up to contact the tape the hub begins to > > move but stops as soon as the transport moves down and out of contact > > with the tape. > > > > Mike > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > From John at jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk Sat Jan 25 22:31:57 2003 From: John at jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk (John Walker) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 21:31:57 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] OT: Yes / ELP: Salim and Tim References: <003d01c2c4ac$967a1f40$8a299bca@smarzuki> Message-ID: <3E33024D.8070907@jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk> Salim wrote: "Which one do you think made the biggest change compared to first time we hear those LPs, stylus or speakers ?" What a good question! Those of you who know me, know that I am a fan of esoteric transducers both front and back. (I have an unclad Lyra cartridge, and Martin-Logan electrostatic speakers.) Using the GIGO analogy (garbage-in, garbage-out), I reckon that the cartridge is the first to go for - a good moving coil seems to produce much more detail than any moving magnet. Once you have achieved this half step to Nirvana, you are then ready to try higher resolution speakers. The other approach, brilliant speakers with a less good cartridge would just remind you how urgent that cartridge update was! One of you guys bought a pair of Martin-Logans recently. I can't remember who (Kannan?). How are you getting on with them? John Walker, currently buying old Pink Floyd and Yes albums on eBay. (But not ready to go back to ELP, not yet!) From timbarrett at cox.net Sat Jan 25 22:39:46 2003 From: timbarrett at cox.net (timbarrett at cox.net) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:39:46 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] OT: Yes / ELP: Salim and Tim In-Reply-To: <003d01c2c4ac$967a1f40$8a299bca@smarzuki> Message-ID: <3E32BDD2.12585.12282A@localhost> Salim- Which B&O parts are you looking for? I may be able to find what you need. Tim On 26 Jan 2003 at 3:00, Salim Marzuki wrote: > > What an LP system ! It's definitely refreshing to hear these > recordings again (I also missed Brain Salad) especially using > 'current' technology. Which one do you think made the biggest change > compared to first time we hear those LPs, stylus or speakers ? > > Mark, thanks for the lead on beogram belt. I like the turntable but > too bad the installed mmc is probably already brittle and doesn't > sound as good as yesteryears. > > Best regards, > Salim SM > PS: Any recommendation on yes/elp/others live show dvd ? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mark Hugo > To: naktalk at naks.com > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 3:47 PM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] OT: Yes / ELP: Salim and Tim > > > Hi Tim and Salim, > > I recently (over the Dec hols) had a friend do me a great recording > off the original (1970s) LP releases of Tarkus and Trilogy by ELP. > The audio chain was Sondek+ Cirkus+ Lingo/SME V/Transfiguration Esprit > via Electrocompaniet Phono-stage direct to Nak CR7E. Media was BASF > Ref Maxima. The results were incredible, better than I ever remember. > > It was great hearing those guys after all these years. He doesn;t > have a copy of "Brain Salad Surgery" so I'm still looking !! > > Tim, I'll look out for Triumvirate. Thanks. > > Cheers, > > Marc > > > > ========-------------------------------------------------------------- > ----========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========-------------------------------------------------------------- > ----========= From jvolpatti at earthlink.net Sat Jan 25 22:44:27 2003 From: jvolpatti at earthlink.net (Jim Volpatti) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:44:27 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] OT: Yes / ELP: Salim and Tim References: <003d01c2c4ac$967a1f40$8a299bca@smarzuki> <3E33024D.8070907@jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk> Message-ID: <3E33053B.601FDFC7@earthlink.net> Salim, I would have to say that if you are listening to those LPs in a different room than the one you were in the first time you heard the music, the room acoustics are responsible for the largest difference in what you hear now. Room acoustics are a much larger variable than any system component. Guys tend to forget that. Jim Volpatti > Salim wrote: > "Which one do you think made the biggest change compared to first time > we hear those LPs, stylus or speakers ?" From timbarrett at cox.net Sat Jan 25 23:01:03 2003 From: timbarrett at cox.net (timbarrett at cox.net) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 17:01:03 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] OT: Yes / ELP / philosophy In-Reply-To: <3E33024D.8070907@jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk> Message-ID: <3E32C2CF.30801.25A4F7@localhost> To my ears, the difference between cartridges was far more subtle than the difference between speakers. I always considered speakers to be the 'wild card' of the whole bunch, and to be the single most limiting (or liberating?) element of the chain. For that reason, I would tend to work from the back forward, choosing speakers, then adequate drive for them, then the input sources. However, I've never been in a position to indulge my hifi fantasies, and usually make do with whatever I manage to rescue and repair from other's circular files. Now that I think back, the only pieces I've ever bought new were a pair of Dynaco A-50's, and more recently (10 years ago) a Adcom Preamp. Such is life. As for ELP, I've got their old stuff including Brain Salad Surgery and an OMR of Pictures at an Exhibition, and I've played the life out of them all. Speaking of OMR - does anyone have an OMR of Moody Blues 'Days of Future Passed'? I've got one, plus the off-the-shelf copy. Have you noticed that they are very different mixes? Tim On 25 Jan 2003 at 21:31, John Walker wrote: > Salim wrote: > "Which one do you think made the biggest change compared to first time > we hear those LPs, stylus or speakers ?" > > What a good question! Those of you who know me, know that I am a fan > of esoteric transducers both front and back. (I have an unclad Lyra > cartridge, and Martin-Logan electrostatic speakers.) Using the GIGO > analogy (garbage-in, garbage-out), I reckon that the cartridge is the > first to go for - a good moving coil seems to produce much more detail > than any moving magnet. Once you have achieved this half step to > Nirvana, you are then ready to try higher resolution speakers. The > other approach, brilliant speakers with a less good cartridge would > just remind you how urgent that cartridge update was! > > One of you guys bought a pair of Martin-Logans recently. I can't > remember who (Kannan?). How are you getting on with them? > > John Walker, currently buying old Pink Floyd and Yes albums on eBay. > (But not ready to go back to ELP, not yet!) > > ========-------------------------------------------------------------- > ----========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========-------------------------------------------------------------- > ----========= From c123666 at earthlink.net Sat Jan 25 23:52:06 2003 From: c123666 at earthlink.net (Tiberius Gaius) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 14:52:06 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Re: nakamichi mc tranformer In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20030125195143.00aadc90@box.tin.it> Message-ID: I found this on ebay and have never seen it before: Nakamichi Dragon Moving Coil Step Up Tranformer http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3283&item=3002556061& rd=1 Bid is at 142 US right now. Anybody have experience with this piece and know what its performance makes it comparable to? IE, is it up there with a Cotter or Audio Note (Kondo) tranformer? Thanks, Carl -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of Ezio Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 10:52 AM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: APP History Distribution May I be re-inserted into the group ? Thanks Ezio At 10:46 AM 1/25/03 -0800, you wrote: Dear NakTalkers...... Please excuse my indulgence, I'm just trying to gather the few fellows interested in the APP History cassette distribution. Graham, Kannan, Kent, Marc, Ron, other NakTalkers interested in the Alan Parsons Project (APP) oral history cassette tape distribution, email me directly with your email and surface mailing addresses. Essential information that I will require to pull logistics together for the project. To avoid clogging up NakTalk discussions, email me direct at . Kindly use the subject title "Re: APP History Distribution". Thanks for your cooperation. Update on the cassette preparation will be sent to you directly (off-line from NakTalk, I'll create a specific email distrib list) as soon as we can gather all comers to the cassette distribution. I'm doing the master cassette preparation this afternoon. Get in-touch with me then, let's have the show fully on the road! Best regards, keep on Nakkin'..... K.J. Bleus Madison, Wisc USA Lat 43004'N, Long 89024'W ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Help keep the blues alive! Spread the word!!! http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/index.html Psssst.... If you want to look-up your geographic location in latitude and longitude coordinates, have a try at using the World Atlas interface: http://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/imageg.htm ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! 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Jim Volpatti kannan_s at vsnl.com wrote: > I don' know how you thought I have a Martin Logan pair- > But I can tell you my experience with a pair in a Hi Fi shop here in San Jose. > unfortunately I listened to a pair at Magnonalia Hi Fi ( I may not be getting that name right ???) when I saw an advertisement for a pair of Sonus faber. It was so bad I came back disappointed. I am sure these guys do not know how to demonstrate their wares. > I am sure Jim is doing good business here in Bay area. > I cannot believe that a store or even Martin Logan reperesentative would sell their product this way? > Coming to ELP - they are one of my favourite bands - I have heard their "Brain Salad surgery" LP in my college days in one of my seniors ( during 1975) room. He had ordinary Gerard turn table / with 8 Watts tube amp and home built speakers. It was great and I still remember the "Dark side of the moon" LP as well as Carole King's "Tapestry". The experience was wonderful - when you do not bother what turntable or speakers but listen to music! > Ofcurse you are right - good catridge and turntable would bring out the best unless the speakers are very bad. > Kannan > John at jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk wrote > Salim wrote: > "Which one do you think made the biggest change compared to first time > we hear those LPs, stylus or speakers ?" > > What a good question! Those of you who know me, know that I am a fan of > esoteric transducers both front and back. (I have an unclad Lyra > cartridge, and Martin-Logan electrostatic speakers.) Using the GIGO > analogy (garbage-in, garbage-out), I reckon that the cartridge is the > first to go for - a good moving coil seems to produce much more detail > than any moving magnet. Once you have achieved this half step to > Nirvana, you are then ready to try higher resolution speakers. The > other approach, brilliant speakers with a less good cartridge would just > remind you how urgent that cartridge update was! > > One of you guys bought a pair of Martin-Logans recently. I can't > remember who (Kannan?). How are you getting on with them? > > John Walker, currently buying old Pink Floyd and Yes albums on eBay. > (But not ready to go back to ELP, not yet!) > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From rjkent at attbi.com Sun Jan 26 06:07:51 2003 From: rjkent at attbi.com (Robert Kent) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 21:07:51 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Analog to Digital Message-ID: My sincere thanks to those who have contributed to this string....Ron, Roland, Ezio, Vladimir, John Walker (hope I didn't miss anyone). Lots of new ideas to consider. I decided to order a TerraTec DMX6fire 24/96 and give it a try. It includes a ton of software, all of the EWX 24/96 features plus a built in phono preamp and quite a few more connection options. It also includes an external pod with all of the I/O jacks and only takes up one space on the back of the computer. I ordered it from JDSound: http://www.jdsound.com/store/product1.asp?SID=2&Product_ID=457 Thanks again, Robert Kent From ezio_lucenti at tin.it Sun Jan 26 06:56:25 2003 From: ezio_lucenti at tin.it (Ezio) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 06:56:25 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Analog to Digital In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030126065410.00a6a270@box.tin.it> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From John at jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk Sun Jan 26 09:07:12 2003 From: John at jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk (John Walker) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 08:07:12 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Analog to Digital References: Message-ID: <3E339730.3080801@jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk> Robert Glad to have helped. I hope that you get a lot of pleasure out of your purchase. John Walker Robert Kent wrote: >My sincere thanks to those who have contributed to this string....Ron, Roland, Ezio, Vladimir, John >Walker (hope I didn't miss anyone). Lots of new ideas to consider. I decided to order a TerraTec >DMX6fire 24/96 and give it a try. It includes a ton of software, all of the EWX 24/96 features plus >a built in phono preamp and quite a few more connection options. It also includes an external pod >with all of the I/O jacks and only takes up one space on the back of the computer. I ordered it >from JDSound: http://www.jdsound.com/store/product1.asp?SID=2&Product_ID=457 > >Thanks again, > >Robert Kent > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Sun Jan 26 09:23:00 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 15:23:00 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] OT: system variable References: <003d01c2c4ac$967a1f40$8a299bca@smarzuki> <3E33024D.8070907@jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk> Message-ID: <002701c2c514$3b2cba40$35299bca@smarzuki> Hi John, I got the SL3 pair recently and was amazed at the vocals and details reproduced by them. However, when it comes to slam bam dynamic drum rock music I find my vandersteen more "like it" as if the vandy got more punch ... while the SL3 make music sound somewhat 'flat'. Probably due to the nature of dynamic speaker ? They're in the same room so roughly room variable should be out of equation. Jim, although I agree that room / placement has a big influence ... I'm quite sure that both the Vandy 2c vs JBL L100 and the audio technica fine line vs shure m55 have bigger impact than room boundaries. I would put the marantz receiver vs nak pre/power as having less sonic differences. Oh, no ... looks like we're already round the circle to get to dbt related topics ... =) Cheers, Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: John Walker To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 4:31 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] OT: Yes / ELP: Salim and Tim Salim wrote: "Which one do you think made the biggest change compared to first time we hear those LPs, stylus or speakers ?" What a good question! Those of you who know me, know that I am a fan of esoteric transducers both front and back. (I have an unclad Lyra cartridge, and Martin-Logan electrostatic speakers.) Using the GIGO analogy (garbage-in, garbage-out), I reckon that the cartridge is the first to go for - a good moving coil seems to produce much more detail than any moving magnet. Once you have achieved this half step to Nirvana, you are then ready to try higher resolution speakers. The other approach, brilliant speakers with a less good cartridge would just remind you how urgent that cartridge update was! One of you guys bought a pair of Martin-Logans recently. I can't remember who (Kannan?). How are you getting on with them? John Walker, currently buying old Pink Floyd and Yes albums on eBay. (But not ready to go back to ELP, not yet!) From exposo at hotmail.com Sun Jan 26 12:56:31 2003 From: exposo at hotmail.com (Exposo Madass) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 06:56:31 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] ftp site where???????????? Message-ID: Hi everyone It's me Javier Was hoping someone could refresh my memory. What was url to the manual ftp site again as well as the user name and passwd I thought it was ftp.naks.com but it's not. Thanks See Ya Javier _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Sun Jan 26 13:25:43 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 23:25:43 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] ftp site where???????????? Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E91@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Hi Javier. It's ..... http://support.naks.com/support username: naktalk password: dragon Enjoy! Regards Tom Siomopoulos -----Original Message----- From: Exposo Madass [mailto:exposo at hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 26 January 2003 10:57 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] ftp site where???????????? Hi everyone It's me Javier Was hoping someone could refresh my memory. What was url to the manual ftp site again as well as the user name and passwd I thought it was ftp.naks.com but it's not. Thanks See Ya Javier _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From exposo at hotmail.com Sun Jan 26 14:11:57 2003 From: exposo at hotmail.com (Exposo Madass) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 08:11:57 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] ftp site where???????????? Message-ID: Thak you extremely very much Tom Javier >From: Thomas Siomopoulos >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: "'naktalk at naks.com'" >Subject: RE: [naktalk] ftp site where???????????? >Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 23:25:43 +1100 > >Hi Javier. It's ..... > >http://support.naks.com/support > >username: naktalk >password: dragon > >Enjoy! > >Regards Tom Siomopoulos > >-----Original Message----- >From: Exposo Madass [mailto:exposo at hotmail.com] >Sent: Sunday, 26 January 2003 10:57 >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: [naktalk] ftp site where???????????? > > >Hi everyone >It's me Javier >Was hoping someone could refresh my memory. >What was url to the manual ftp site again >as well as the user name and passwd >I thought it was ftp.naks.com but it's not. >Thanks >See Ya >Javier > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online >http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From exposo at hotmail.com Sun Jan 26 14:24:55 2003 From: exposo at hotmail.com (Exposo Madass) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 08:24:55 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] 700 and 700 s2 service manual Message-ID: Wow Bummer! I can't find a service manual for either of my 700 tri tracers. Would anybody happen to have something on-line. My s2 has a blown channel on the recording end. plays back fine but will only record one channel. I'm pretty sure the plugins are ok. I think it happened to me a few years ago on this very deck and I fixed it by replacing a jfet on one of the boards but if it has happened again and it's the same jfet I'll have to replace more than that downstream! Anyways, at this point even a schematic would help. Thanks again See Ya Javier PS: Also BTW: since the original 700 has an ex/sx selector but no 70/120 selector, is sx assumed to be at 70 and ex at 120? _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From naktalk at email.si Sun Jan 26 20:03:17 2003 From: naktalk at email.si (Dusan) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 20:03:17 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] CR-7E is here - WOW References: Message-ID: <001a01c2c56d$c01b0aa0$8405fad5@dusan> I have just received my CR-7E. It has very low s/n and it is without gear and record eq modifications. At the beginning I have tried playing back some commercial tapes - but I was a little bit disappointed... They all just suck. Then I have recorded a tape from my Anthem-CD1 player, using TDK-SA-X cassette. I have compared both playbacks from CD and cassette from my new CR-7, using Sennheiser HD-600 headphones with DIY tube phones amplifier. Yes, there was an audible difference - I liked the sound from CR-7 better! I can't explain this : How can a record sound better than the original does? Sound is softer and more pleasant to my ears and here comes a big WOW!!! I'm really satisfied with my new CR-7. Should I make the Eq modification or not? If I match resistors/capacitors and use equal values for both channels, would after that really be necessary to make a re-adjustment (by a competent person, of course) as described service information? Ciao Dusan From bk11 at thuntek.net Sun Jan 26 23:48:55 2003 From: bk11 at thuntek.net (Stephen Sank) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 15:48:55 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] 700 and 700 s2 service manual References: Message-ID: <029101c2c58d$1bc4ad10$1d3442cf@steve> I'll try to scan & upload at least the 700-II schematics tonight to the Naks ftp server. You know, I can't remember ever seeing any problem in a 700/700II's audio circuitry at all, beyond the usual weak edge connector contacts. Stephen Sank, Owner & Ribbon Mic Restorer Talking Dog Transducer Company http://stephensank.com 5517 Carmelita Drive N.E. Albuquerque, New Mexico [87111] (temporarily using home address, due to imminent shop move) 505-332-0336 Auth. Nakamichi & McIntosh servicer Payments preferred through Paypal.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Exposo Madass" To: Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 6:24 AM Subject: [naktalk] 700 and 700 s2 service manual > Wow > Bummer! I can't find a service manual for either of my 700 > tri tracers. Would anybody happen to have something on-line. > My s2 has a blown channel on the recording end. plays back fine but will > only record one channel. I'm pretty sure the plugins are ok. I think it > happened to me a few years ago on this very deck and I fixed it by replacing > a jfet on one of the boards but if it has happened again and it's the same > jfet I'll have to replace more than that downstream! Anyways, at this point > even a schematic would help. > Thanks again > See Ya > Javier > > PS: Also BTW: since the original 700 has an ex/sx selector but no 70/120 > selector, is sx assumed to be at 70 and ex at 120? > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > From bk11 at thuntek.net Sun Jan 26 23:52:57 2003 From: bk11 at thuntek.net (Stephen Sank) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 15:52:57 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] CR-7E is here - WOW References: <001a01c2c56d$c01b0aa0$8405fad5@dusan> Message-ID: <029d01c2c58d$ac14f370$1d3442cf@steve> I don't consider the gear upgrade a necessity, since getting to the idler for cleaning is quite easy, but I definitely consider it mandatory to do the eq correction procedure. Generally, if the deck can still auto-calibrate any tape you try after the procedure, you're at least really darn close to quite accurate auto-cal. It is not always necessary to recal the auto-cal afterwards. Stephen Sank, Owner & Ribbon Mic Restorer Talking Dog Transducer Company http://stephensank.com 5517 Carmelita Drive N.E. Albuquerque, New Mexico [87111] (temporarily using home address, due to imminent shop move) 505-332-0336 Auth. Nakamichi & McIntosh servicer Payments preferred through Paypal.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dusan" To: Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 12:03 PM Subject: [naktalk] CR-7E is here - WOW > I have just received my CR-7E. It has very low s/n and it is without gear > and record eq modifications. > At the beginning I have tried playing back some commercial tapes - but I was > a little bit disappointed... They all just suck. > > Then I have recorded a tape from my Anthem-CD1 player, using TDK-SA-X > cassette. I have compared both playbacks from CD and cassette from my new > CR-7, using Sennheiser HD-600 headphones with DIY tube phones amplifier. > Yes, there was an audible difference - I liked the sound from CR-7 better! I > can't explain this : How can a record sound better than the original does? > Sound is softer and more pleasant to my ears and here comes a big WOW!!! > > I'm really satisfied with my new CR-7. Should I make the Eq modification or > not? > > If I match resistors/capacitors and use equal values for both channels, > would after that really be necessary to make a re-adjustment (by a competent > person, of course) as described service information? > > Ciao > > Dusan > > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > From exposo at hotmail.com Mon Jan 27 04:09:59 2003 From: exposo at hotmail.com (Exposo Madass) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 22:09:59 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] 700 and 700 s2 service manual Message-ID: Thanks a million Steve. I appreciate it. The last time this happened to me the problem was on what I think was the record amp board. Using "third world" diagnostic techniques. I bridged L R points along the board until I got to the Jfet. Funny thing with this one was that it was impossible for any signal to get past the blown jfet, not even a faint gargle! Boy was I happy with myself when I got it working! After looking throyugh a 50 pound pile of junk pcbs I was able to find 1 and only 1 matching jfet off an old monitor board. I'm still hoping it won't be the same jfet. BTW: Steve How hard do you think it would be to prototype a pair of dolby c boards for these buggers? >From: "Stephen Sank" >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: >Subject: Re: [naktalk] 700 and 700 s2 service manual >Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 15:48:55 -0700 > >I'll try to scan & upload at least the 700-II schematics tonight to the >Naks >ftp server. You know, I can't remember ever seeing any problem in a >700/700II's audio circuitry at all, beyond the usual weak edge connector >contacts. > >Stephen Sank, Owner & Ribbon Mic Restorer >Talking Dog Transducer Company >http://stephensank.com >5517 Carmelita Drive N.E. >Albuquerque, New Mexico [87111] (temporarily using home address, due to >imminent shop move) >505-332-0336 >Auth. Nakamichi & McIntosh servicer >Payments preferred through Paypal.com >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Exposo Madass" >To: >Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 6:24 AM >Subject: [naktalk] 700 and 700 s2 service manual > > > > Wow > > Bummer! I can't find a service manual for either of my 700 > > tri tracers. Would anybody happen to have something on-line. > > My s2 has a blown channel on the recording end. plays back fine but will > > only record one channel. I'm pretty sure the plugins are ok. I think it > > happened to me a few years ago on this very deck and I fixed it by >replacing > > a jfet on one of the boards but if it has happened again and it's the >same > > jfet I'll have to replace more than that downstream! Anyways, at this >point > > even a schematic would help. > > Thanks again > > See Ya > > Javier > > > > PS: Also BTW: since the original 700 has an ex/sx selector but no 70/120 > > selector, is sx assumed to be at 70 and ex at 120? > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From mglen at melbpc.org.au Sun Jan 26 21:57:54 2003 From: mglen at melbpc.org.au (Mr Glen Anthony) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 07:57:54 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Calibration Alignment Tape Message-ID: <000201c2c609$e11fd400$259c0ccb@GS1ec5ur1it7y> Hello Everyone I am new to the group , my name is Glen and my location is Melbourne Australia , I have been in Electronics Engineering for employment for the past 18 years. back in 1984 I had to sell my Nakamichi 600 deck due to priorities with much reluctance and regret. I now own a Nakamichi 600 series II deck , I just love that angled Wedge front panel , what style , rack handles standard , great ergonomics , OK I maybe nostalgic but I'm not the only one http://www.hi-fiworld.co.uk/hfw/oldeworldehtml/nakamichi600.html OK it may not be a performer like all those that followed onwards but it did set the standard for change , aswell estabish Nakamichi as a name not to be taken lightly and only a serious quality manufacturer. Now to my Subject at hand -:Calibration Alignment Tape I am very interested in sourcing a good quality "Calibration Alignment Tape" to setup the Azimuth Correctly; 1/ I notice on Ebay recently this auction seller "electronix" had their own business website for a calibration tape http://www.electronix.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/7360 going for a special price of US$14.99 from US$19.95 stating that their tape is equal to or better than OEM tapes.....other than the general blurb no specific of how the tape is made. 2/ I see at an EMTEC{Basf} representative has Calibration Tapes http://home.flash.net/~mrltapes/cassvend.htm starting at US$60.00...and are made in "real time speed" not in a high speed duplicator.. 3/ a couple of weeks ago or more , on Ebay I saw Nakamichi Calibration Tapes of various sorts going for high prices up around the US$50.00.... is there another source for Nakamichi Calibration Alignment Tapes if so where , New or Otherwise??????????? [ " I would really appreciate What is NakTalk opinion on these or other sources not mention ???"] I look forward to everyones responses and adding to other subject matter, thankyou. Glen. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ra.ah at rcn.com Mon Jan 27 15:14:18 2003 From: ra.ah at rcn.com (Ron) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 09:14:18 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Calibration Alignment Tape References: <000201c2c609$e11fd400$259c0ccb@GS1ec5ur1it7y> Message-ID: <3E353EBA.F698B8FA@rcn.com> > Mr Glen Anthony wrote: > > Hello Everyone > > I am new to the group , my name is Glen and my location is > Melbourne Australia , > I have been in Electronics Engineering for employment for the past > 18 years. > back in 1984 I had to sell my Nakamichi 600 deck due to priorities > with much reluctance and regret. > > I now own a Nakamichi 600 series II deck , I just love that angled > Wedge front panel , what style , rack handles standard , great > ergonomics , OK I maybe nostalgic but I'm not the only one > http://www.hi-fiworld.co.uk/hfw/oldeworldehtml/nakamichi600.html > OK it may not be a performer like all those that followed onwards > but it did set the standard for change, as well estabish Nakamichi > as a name not to be taken lightly and only a serious quality > manufacturer. > > Now to my Subject at hand -:Calibration Alignment Tape > I am very interested in sourcing a good quality "Calibration > Alignment Tape" to setup the Azimuth Correctly; > 1/ I notice on Ebay recently this auction seller "electronix" had > their own business website for a calibration tape > http://www.electronix.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/7360 going > for a special price of US$14.99 from US$19.95 > stating that their tape is equal to or better than OEM > tapes.....other than the general blurb no specific of how the tape > is made. > 2/ I see at an EMTEC{Basf} representative has Calibration Tapes > http://home.flash.net/~mrltapes/cassvend.htm starting at > US$60.00...and are made in "real time speed" not in a high speed > duplicator.. > 3/ a couple of weeks ago or more , on Ebay I saw Nakamichi > Calibration Tapes of various sorts going for high prices up around > the US$50.00.... is there another source for Nakamichi Calibration > Alignment Tapes if so where , New or Otherwise??????????? > [ " I would really appreciate What is NakTalk opinion on these or > other sources not mention ???"] > > I look forward to everyones responses and adding to other subject > matter, thankyou. > Glen. Glen, As soon as I got my CR-7 back from calibration by a professional that did have original Nakamichi tapes on hand, I made my own calibration tape, using computer generated tones. I recorded a series of short tones (for PB frequency response validation), followed by longer stretches of 3KHz (for speed adjustment) and 15KHz (for PB azimuth adjustment). This cost next to nothing and is probably as close to an ideal service tape (for my specific deck) as any commercial cassette. So, you may wish to consider having your deck adjusted and calibrated by a professional that is familiar with Nak decks and has all the service gauges and tapes. (It's a good idea to do this every few years, anyway.) Then, immediately, make your own calibration tae. --- Ron From Mhugo at sunint.co.za Mon Jan 27 15:25:15 2003 From: Mhugo at sunint.co.za (Mark Hugo) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:25:15 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] What's responsible for the improvement? Salim....(OT) Message-ID: Hi Salim, and all Quoting you; "Which one do you think made the biggest change compared to first time we hear those LPs, stylus or speakers ?" As some of the others have said, this is indeed an interesting question. If I were to look at the system to which referred specifically, the piece of the audio change that was responsible for a quantum improvement over a MM turntable system from yesteryear it would be the move up to a top grade MC. Firstly, the quality of the LP has improved to an extent. They are less subject to the extremes of mass production. The Mobile Fidelity and Simply Vinyl 200g pressings are (amongst others) extremely good but, and this is a big but, you have to have the gear to extract the magic from the grooves. The cantilever on these new generation estoteric MCs is hard to see it is so fine. I refer to cartridges like the Esprit mentioned already, the Van den Hul Grasshopper and the Linn Troika. The recording of the ELP was cut in 1973 or so. The Esprit extracted from it detail that has to be heard to be believed. He put both records through his Nitty Gritty Record Cleaner as a standard precursor to playing them. That way, he applied the minimum wear factor to both LP and cartridge. His observation is that provided a record is properly cleaned, (even if it is worn) and then played using a good quality, well aligned, light weight arm/unworn stylus, the wear on the record is negligible. These "theories" that suggested 5-10 hi-fi playings was all you could hope to get out of a record must have applied to those horrible old heavyweight "radiogram" outfits that lathed their way through your music collections. I think it's the cartridge because before (18 months ago) he had the same cartridge with an SME IV arm (not the V) on a Linn Basik. It was nearly as impressive. What it lacked was the bass weight and "dark silence" of the full dress Sondek. The phon stage was also the same. The cabling has remained the same. He has no power conditioner. Jim is correct when he says that listening environments are important. We often forget that. We may have been listening in our bedrooms in those days. Speakers can have a major impact on the experience, but in this case, they have remained the same (three way sealed units from Infinity). I forget the model number. In the old days we listened to those ELP records on an old valve Philip's radiogram (the vinyl and acetate slicing and ripping machine referred to earlier) and that had a single full range speaker. So the question "is it the speakers or the sylus" is valid). But listening to the same record on a Technics SL1200 turntable with a Shure M75 / NAD 3020/ Mordaunt Short MS20i was no where near the same experience. I accept that the replay chain was of a lower pedigree. But somehow, one can hear where the game is being lost. FIRST good speakers, THEN ample power to drive them(as stated iin one post) and THEN looking at the front end is perhaps applicable today in the digital age when the variations in perceivable quality from the front end are more subtle than in the analogue world. I have found (because very few mag reviewers seem able to just say it) the step up from MM to MC is, in general, much more than just more money. It is a very big leap in quality. Detail is of a completely different and superior order. I'm not saying that there are no nice crisp 'n clean MMs, and that there aren't a couple of dullard MCs out there. (I haven't heard any though). But there seems a reliable rule of thumb here that might make rediscovering your record collection more rewarding than you had thought!! Cheers, Marc The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient/s. If you are not the intended recipient, you cannot use, copy, distribute, disclose or retain the email or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying to this message and to permanently delete it and all attachments from your computer. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present in this email and the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. From ra.ah at rcn.com Mon Jan 27 16:12:21 2003 From: ra.ah at rcn.com (Ron) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:12:21 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] What's responsible for the improvement? Salim....(OT) References: Message-ID: <3E354C55.B3D6EE4C@rcn.com> Mark Hugo wrote: > > Hi Salim, and all > > Quoting you; > > "Which one do you think made the biggest change compared to > first time we hear those LPs, stylus or speakers ?" > > As some of the others have said, this is indeed an interesting > question. If I were to look at the system to which referred > specifically, the piece of the audio change that was responsible > for a quantum improvement over a MM turntable system from > yesteryear it would be the move up to a top grade MC. > > Firstly, the quality of the LP has improved to an extent. They > are less subject to the extremes of mass production. The Mobile > Fidelity and Simply Vinyl 200g pressings are (amongst others) > extremely good but, and this is a big but, you have to have the > gear to extract the magic from the grooves. The cantilever on > these new generation estoteric MCs is hard to see it is so fine. > I refer to cartridges like the Esprit mentioned already, the Van > den Hul Grasshopper and the Linn Troika. > > The recording of the ELP was cut in 1973 or so. The Esprit > extracted from it detail that has to be heard to be believed. > He put both records through his Nitty Gritty Record Cleaner > as a standard precursor to playing them. That way, he applied > the minimum wear factor to both LP and cartridge. His > observation is that provided a record is properly cleaned, > (even if it is worn) and then played using a good quality, > well aligned, light weight arm/unworn stylus, the wear on > the record is negligible. These "theories" that suggested > 5-10 hi-fi playings was all you could hope to get out of a > record must have applied to those horrible old heavyweight > "radiogram" outfits that lathed their way through your music > collections. > > I think it's the cartridge because before (18 months ago) he > had the same cartridge with an SME IV arm (not the V) on a > Linn Basik. It was nearly as impressive. What it lacked was > the bass weight and "dark silence" of the full dress Sondek. > The phon stage was also the same. The cabling has remained > the same. He has no power conditioner. > > Jim is correct when he says that listening environments are > important. We often forget that. We may have been listening > in our bedrooms in those days. > > Speakers can have a major impact on the experience, but in this > case, they have remained the same (three way sealed units from > Infinity). I forget the model number. In the old days we > listened to those ELP records on an old valve Philip's radiogram > (the vinyl and acetate slicing and ripping machine referred to > earlier) and that had a single full range speaker. So the question > "is it the speakers or the sylus" is valid). But listening to the > same record on a Technics SL1200 turntable with a Shure M75 / NAD > 3020/ Mordaunt Short MS20i was no where near the same experience. > I accept that the replay chain was of a lower pedigree. But somehow, > one can hear where the game is being lost. > > FIRST good speakers, THEN ample power to drive them(as stated iin > one post) and THEN looking at the front end is perhaps applicable > today in the digital age when the variations in perceivable quality > from the front end are more subtle than in the analogue world. So far, I couldn't agree more. This exactly matches my own experiences. However... > I have found (because very few mag reviewers seem able to just > say it) the step up from MM to MC is, in general, much more > than just more money. It is a very big leap in quality. > Detail is of a completely different and superior order. I'm > not saying that there are no nice crisp 'n clean MMs, and > that there aren't a couple of dullard MCs out there. (I > haven't heard any though). But there seems a reliable rule > of thumb here that might make rediscovering your record > collection more rewarding than you had thought!! ... is not true, IME. I have always been a fan of Shure V-15 cartridges. Many years ago, a dealer talked me into replacing my V-15 III with an Ortofon MC cartridge. The MC sound was, to me, restricted and lifeless. The MC pickup did not deliver the airy highs and great detail, as advertised. Due to the low output, noise level was higher. Not to mention that it cost more than twice the V-15. Luckily, I still retained my old cartridge. Three months later I reinstalled it and the dealer agreed to take the Ortofon back. Later on, I replaced the cartridge with a V-15VMR, for an audible improvement. Bottom line: To me a MM cartridge is preferable to a MC one. -- Ron > Cheers, > > Marc From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Mon Jan 27 16:20:10 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:20:10 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] Calibration Alignment Tape References: <000201c2c609$e11fd400$259c0ccb@GS1ec5ur1it7y> <3E353EBA.F698B8FA@rcn.com> Message-ID: <001101c2c617$95502440$18299bca@smarzuki> Hi Glen, Be careful when spending $$$ to get generic test tapes. Nak's genuine head height test tape is unique in that you are calibrating for minimum output since the signal is recorded outside the head contact area - and imho more precise + command the higher price. Nak's azimuth test tape is a more 'regular' one and should be interchangeable with generic - or even homemade test tape. However, for 3 head naks it's important to get the head height correct in the first place before proceeding to azimuth. I agree with Ron that provided you don't do a lot of head changing aligning etc, it'd be better to get the deck professionally aligned and make homemade test tapes out of it. Moreover Nak's head height (aka track alignment) tape is getting as rare as the spare parts itself. Best regards, Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Calibration Alignment Tape > Mr Glen Anthony wrote: > > Hello Everyone > > I am new to the group , my name is Glen and my location is > Melbourne Australia , > I have been in Electronics Engineering for employment for the past > 18 years. > back in 1984 I had to sell my Nakamichi 600 deck due to priorities > with much reluctance and regret. > > I now own a Nakamichi 600 series II deck , I just love that angled > Wedge front panel , what style , rack handles standard , great > ergonomics , OK I maybe nostalgic but I'm not the only one > http://www.hi-fiworld.co.uk/hfw/oldeworldehtml/nakamichi600.html > OK it may not be a performer like all those that followed onwards > but it did set the standard for change, as well estabish Nakamichi > as a name not to be taken lightly and only a serious quality > manufacturer. > > Now to my Subject at hand -:Calibration Alignment Tape > I am very interested in sourcing a good quality "Calibration > Alignment Tape" to setup the Azimuth Correctly; > 1/ I notice on Ebay recently this auction seller "electronix" had > their own business website for a calibration tape > http://www.electronix.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/7360 going > for a special price of US$14.99 from US$19.95 > stating that their tape is equal to or better than OEM > tapes.....other than the general blurb no specific of how the tape > is made. > 2/ I see at an EMTEC{Basf} representative has Calibration Tapes > http://home.flash.net/~mrltapes/cassvend.htm starting at > US$60.00...and are made in "real time speed" not in a high speed > duplicator.. > 3/ a couple of weeks ago or more , on Ebay I saw Nakamichi > Calibration Tapes of various sorts going for high prices up around > the US$50.00.... is there another source for Nakamichi Calibration > Alignment Tapes if so where , New or Otherwise??????????? > [ " I would really appreciate What is NakTalk opinion on these or > other sources not mention ???"] > > I look forward to everyones responses and adding to other subject > matter, thankyou. > Glen. Glen, As soon as I got my CR-7 back from calibration by a professional that did have original Nakamichi tapes on hand, I made my own calibration tape, using computer generated tones. I recorded a series of short tones (for PB frequency response validation), followed by longer stretches of 3KHz (for speed adjustment) and 15KHz (for PB azimuth adjustment). This cost next to nothing and is probably as close to an ideal service tape (for my specific deck) as any commercial cassette. So, you may wish to consider having your deck adjusted and calibrated by a professional that is familiar with Nak decks and has all the service gauges and tapes. (It's a good idea to do this every few years, anyway.) Then, immediately, make your own calibration tae. --- Ron From m.raven at chello.nl Mon Jan 27 16:25:11 2003 From: m.raven at chello.nl (Maurits) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:25:11 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Calibration Alignment Tape References: <000201c2c609$e11fd400$259c0ccb@GS1ec5ur1it7y> Message-ID: <000d01c2c618$48445df0$9e3cbbd4@raveneql1a1eu0> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr Glen Anthony" To: Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 9:57 PM Subject: [naktalk] Calibration Alignment Tape Now to my Subject at hand -:Calibration Alignment Tape I am very interested in sourcing a good quality "Calibration Alignment Tape" to setup the Azimuth Correctly; 1/ I notice on Ebay recently this auction seller "electronix" had their own business website for a calibration tape http://www.electronix.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/7360 going for a special price of US$14.99 from US$19.95 stating that their tape is equal to or better than OEM tapes.....other than the general blurb no specific of how the tape is made. I'll need the following Nakamichi tapes. OA09001A 20 kHz playback OA09002A 15 kHz playback OA09003A 10 kHz playback OA09004A 15 kHz azimuth alignment OA09005A 400 Hz, 0dB, Dolby level OA09006A 3 kHz wow & speed check OA09007A track alignment (head height test) OA09008A reference normal (blank tape, no oxide, for R/P calkibration) OA09009A reference CrO2 OA09010A reference EX (Hi-Ferro) OA09011A tape travelling check (mirror cassette) OA09013A take-up torque gauge OD09001A tape guide aduster DA09021A reference EXII DA09025A reference SX DA 03144A mirror cassette http://home.flash.net/~mrltapes/cassvend.htm starting at US$60.00...and are made in "real time speed" not in a high speed duplicator.. You need specially made Nakamichi tapes to align to the original Nakamichi factory specifications. on Ebay I saw Nakamichi Calibration Tapes of various sorts going for high prices up around the US$50.00.... is there another source for Nakamichi Calibration Alignment Tapes if so where , New or Otherwise??? I don't know of this are the original tapes or copies. But I know only experienced technicans can do a a good job on this pricey machines. Use your ears too, they are most of the times accurate enough to hear any differences between a recording sound and the original.On 3 head machines: simply switch to source/tape during recording. If you can't notice any difference in sound/noise/distortion you have a good Nak. Maurits From colem at georgetown.edu Mon Jan 27 16:33:55 2003 From: colem at georgetown.edu (Michael Cole) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:33:55 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] MR-1 transport problem solved - Thanks Stephen Message-ID: <3E355162.B9D61F6@georgetown.edu> Stephen, I very much appreciate your help with the diagnosis. It was just as you said. I had a contact burnisher - I restore antique jukeboxes and they contain lots of the same type of switch and cam set-ups used in the MR-1. The transport is working properly now although it's a little noisy when it cycles between pause, play and stop. I have another MR-1 and that's silent, perhaps some judicious lubrication is in order. Thanks again, Mike From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Mon Jan 27 17:22:04 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 23:22:04 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] What's responsible for the improvement? Salim....(OT) References: <3E354C55.B3D6EE4C@rcn.com> Message-ID: <002201c2c620$3bb891c0$18299bca@smarzuki> Interesting ! Given my budget I was about to ask whether nak audience prefer an elliptical MC versus a fineline MM of the same make - yet series III is elliptical. Looks like this stylus business is another matter of art more than science. Reading Van den Hul's page made me think that he is a believer of stylus shape first and then type (MC) in that order ? Best regards, Salim SM or maybe the case that 'art' is science that hasn't been fully mastered yet .... ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] What's responsible for the improvement? Salim....(OT) Mark Hugo wrote: > > > FIRST good speakers, THEN ample power to drive them(as stated iin > one post) and THEN looking at the front end is perhaps applicable > today in the digital age when the variations in perceivable quality > from the front end are more subtle than in the analogue world. So far, I couldn't agree more. This exactly matches my own experiences. However... > I have found (because very few mag reviewers seem able to just > say it) the step up from MM to MC is, in general, much more > than just more money. It is a very big leap in quality. > Detail is of a completely different and superior order. I'm > not saying that there are no nice crisp 'n clean MMs, and > that there aren't a couple of dullard MCs out there. (I > haven't heard any though). But there seems a reliable rule > of thumb here that might make rediscovering your record > collection more rewarding than you had thought!! ... is not true, IME. I have always been a fan of Shure V-15 cartridges. Many years ago, a dealer talked me into replacing my V-15 III with an Ortofon MC cartridge. The MC sound was, to me, restricted and lifeless. The MC pickup did not deliver the airy highs and great detail, as advertised. Due to the low output, noise level was higher. Not to mention that it cost more than twice the V-15. Luckily, I still retained my old cartridge. Three months later I reinstalled it and the dealer agreed to take the Ortofon back. Later on, I replaced the cartridge with a V-15VMR, for an audible improvement. Bottom line: To me a MM cartridge is preferable to a MC one. -- Ron > Cheers, > > Marc From kannan_s at vsnl.com Mon Jan 27 19:06:38 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 23:36:38 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] Calibration Alignment Tape Message-ID: <20030127180638.E63A3114993@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From Modernizy at netscape.net Mon Jan 27 19:14:25 2003 From: Modernizy at netscape.net (Nick) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:14:25 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] 700 and 700 s2 service manual Message-ID: <222AFA24.5776B675.026D48C1@netscape.net> THERE IS the amplifier circuit diagram of Nak 700TT on Naks.com support page. The address is support/manuals/service/english/TT700_AmplifierSchematic.tif Hope it helps. Regards, Nicholas. __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ From pasec at relex.ru Mon Jan 27 19:35:25 2003 From: pasec at relex.ru (Pavel V. Pasechnik) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:35:25 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] 700 and 700 s2 service manual References: <222AFA24.5776B675.026D48C1@netscape.net> Message-ID: <006001c2c632$dba67960$e405a8c0@relex.ru> Hi All! I hope keep my (last year's :-)) promise and upload full 700TT service manual in full PDF file... In the near future ;-) It's practically finished... But some pictures of circuit board not finished yet. Damned buggy scanner... Best regards, Pavel. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick" To: Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] 700 and 700 s2 service manual > THERE IS the amplifier circuit diagram of Nak 700TT on Naks.com support page. The address is support/manuals/service/english/TT700_AmplifierSchematic.tif > > Hope it helps. > > Regards, > > Nicholas. > > __________________________________________________________________ > The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ > ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --========= > From smoke at snip.net Mon Jan 27 21:01:13 2003 From: smoke at snip.net (John M. Smokevitch) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:01:13 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] What's responsible for the improvement? Salim....(OT) References: <3E354C55.B3D6EE4C@rcn.com> <002201c2c620$3bb891c0$18299bca@smarzuki> Message-ID: <3E359008.4D5CF019@snip.net> Van den hul's moving magnet is a very fine cartridge and a fine tracker. In moving coils, try the Benz Glider in a high or medium output version. If you have a decent phono section on your preamp or receiver, you will NOT need a separate MC step-up device. Also I believe Benz has (or had) a trade-in policy that let you get into their family of moving coils relatively inexpensively. If interested, try it. You probably won't be disappointed. The Glider is a demon tracker and has great MC sound and dynamics. Jim Volpati might want to offer his thoughts here, especially with respect to whether the trade-in offer is still in effect. Best regards. John Salim Marzuki wrote: > Interesting ! Given my budget I was about to ask whether nak audience > prefer an elliptical MC versus a fineline MM of the same make - yet series > III is elliptical. Looks like this stylus business is another matter of art > more than science. Reading Van den Hul's page made me think that he is a > believer of stylus shape first and then type (MC) in that order ? > > Best regards, > Salim SM > or maybe the case that 'art' is science that hasn't been fully mastered yet > .... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ron > To: naktalk at naks.com > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:12 PM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] What's responsible for the improvement? Salim....(OT) > > Mark Hugo wrote: > > > > > > FIRST good speakers, THEN ample power to drive them(as stated iin > > one post) and THEN looking at the front end is perhaps applicable > > today in the digital age when the variations in perceivable quality > > from the front end are more subtle than in the analogue world. > > So far, I couldn't agree more. This exactly matches my own > experiences. However... > > > I have found (because very few mag reviewers seem able to just > > say it) the step up from MM to MC is, in general, much more > > than just more money. It is a very big leap in quality. > > Detail is of a completely different and superior order. I'm > > not saying that there are no nice crisp 'n clean MMs, and > > that there aren't a couple of dullard MCs out there. (I > > haven't heard any though). But there seems a reliable rule > > of thumb here that might make rediscovering your record > > collection more rewarding than you had thought!! > > ... is not true, IME. I have always been a fan of Shure V-15 > cartridges. Many years ago, a dealer talked me into replacing > my V-15 III with an Ortofon MC cartridge. The MC sound was, > to me, restricted and lifeless. The MC pickup did not deliver > the airy highs and great detail, as advertised. Due to the low > output, noise level was higher. Not to mention that it cost > more than twice the V-15. Luckily, I still retained my old > cartridge. Three months later I reinstalled it and the dealer > agreed to take the Ortofon back. Later on, I replaced the > cartridge with a V-15VMR, for an audible improvement. Bottom > line: To me a MM cartridge is preferable to a MC one. > > -- Ron > > > Cheers, > > > > Marc > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Mon Jan 27 21:40:31 2003 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 20:40:31 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] What's responsible for the improvement? Salim....(OT) In-Reply-To: <3E354C55.B3D6EE4C@rcn.com> Message-ID: <001001c2c644$55a44560$7ae5193e@oemcomputer> Len Gregory (The Cartridge Man) in the UK hand makes MM cartridges at a very high price. He claims MM cartridges, if they are properly made (and he maintains most are not!) will always sound better than a MC because the signal path is shorter ... Apart from his own cartridges, the cheapest decent MM cartridge that he would recommend was a Shure VST V. (That was before the event of the V15VMR, which I think takes the same stylus as the VST V.) He also maintains that his top of the range MM (can't recall how much it is - £600???) beats any MC at the same price and even twice the price ... He would, wouldn't he! But it's worth talking to the guy - he's not a salesman, he just passionately believes in what he's doing ... BTW, last time I spoke to him he told me he sells more of his cartridges to the US market than anywhere else. US audiophiles, he told me appreciate the benefits of MMs whereas the UK market has been duped into believing in the myth of MCs ... Don't shoot me for saying that! I'm only telling you what he told me!!! Gra' Graham > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Ron > Sent: 27 January 2003 15:12 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] What's responsible for the improvement? > Salim....(OT) > > > > Mark Hugo wrote: > > > > Hi Salim, and all > > > > Quoting you; > > > > "Which one do you think made the biggest change compared to > > first time we hear those LPs, stylus or speakers ?" > > > > As some of the others have said, this is indeed an interesting > > question. If I were to look at the system to which referred > > specifically, the piece of the audio change that was responsible > > for a quantum improvement over a MM turntable system from > > yesteryear it would be the move up to a top grade MC. > > > > Firstly, the quality of the LP has improved to an extent. They > > are less subject to the extremes of mass production. The Mobile > > Fidelity and Simply Vinyl 200g pressings are (amongst others) > > extremely good but, and this is a big but, you have to have the > > gear to extract the magic from the grooves. The cantilever on > > these new generation estoteric MCs is hard to see it is so fine. > > I refer to cartridges like the Esprit mentioned already, the Van > > den Hul Grasshopper and the Linn Troika. > > > > The recording of the ELP was cut in 1973 or so. The Esprit > > extracted from it detail that has to be heard to be believed. > > He put both records through his Nitty Gritty Record Cleaner > > as a standard precursor to playing them. That way, he applied > > the minimum wear factor to both LP and cartridge. His > > observation is that provided a record is properly cleaned, > > (even if it is worn) and then played using a good quality, > > well aligned, light weight arm/unworn stylus, the wear on > > the record is negligible. These "theories" that suggested > > 5-10 hi-fi playings was all you could hope to get out of a > > record must have applied to those horrible old heavyweight > > "radiogram" outfits that lathed their way through your music > > collections. > > > > I think it's the cartridge because before (18 months ago) he > > had the same cartridge with an SME IV arm (not the V) on a > > Linn Basik. It was nearly as impressive. What it lacked was > > the bass weight and "dark silence" of the full dress Sondek. > > The phon stage was also the same. The cabling has remained > > the same. He has no power conditioner. > > > > Jim is correct when he says that listening environments are > > important. We often forget that. We may have been listening > > in our bedrooms in those days. > > > > Speakers can have a major impact on the experience, but in this > > case, they have remained the same (three way sealed units from > > Infinity). I forget the model number. In the old days we > > listened to those ELP records on an old valve Philip's radiogram > > (the vinyl and acetate slicing and ripping machine referred to > > earlier) and that had a single full range speaker. So the question > > "is it the speakers or the sylus" is valid). But listening to the > > same record on a Technics SL1200 turntable with a Shure M75 / NAD > > 3020/ Mordaunt Short MS20i was no where near the same experience. > > I accept that the replay chain was of a lower pedigree. But somehow, > > one can hear where the game is being lost. > > > > FIRST good speakers, THEN ample power to drive them(as stated iin > > one post) and THEN looking at the front end is perhaps applicable > > today in the digital age when the variations in perceivable quality > > from the front end are more subtle than in the analogue world. > > So far, I couldn't agree more. This exactly matches my own > experiences. However... > > > I have found (because very few mag reviewers seem able to just > > say it) the step up from MM to MC is, in general, much more > > than just more money. It is a very big leap in quality. > > Detail is of a completely different and superior order. I'm > > not saying that there are no nice crisp 'n clean MMs, and > > that there aren't a couple of dullard MCs out there. (I > > haven't heard any though). But there seems a reliable rule > > of thumb here that might make rediscovering your record > > collection more rewarding than you had thought!! > > ... is not true, IME. I have always been a fan of Shure V-15 > cartridges. Many years ago, a dealer talked me into replacing > my V-15 III with an Ortofon MC cartridge. The MC sound was, > to me, restricted and lifeless. The MC pickup did not deliver > the airy highs and great detail, as advertised. Due to the low > output, noise level was higher. Not to mention that it cost > more than twice the V-15. Luckily, I still retained my old > cartridge. Three months later I reinstalled it and the dealer > agreed to take the Ortofon back. Later on, I replaced the > cartridge with a V-15VMR, for an audible improvement. Bottom > line: To me a MM cartridge is preferable to a MC one. > > -- Ron > > > > Cheers, > > > > Marc > > = > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 From ra.ah at rcn.com Mon Jan 27 21:55:05 2003 From: ra.ah at rcn.com (Ron) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:55:05 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] What's responsible for the improvement? Salim....(OT) References: <3E354C55.B3D6EE4C@rcn.com> <002201c2c620$3bb891c0$18299bca@smarzuki> Message-ID: <3E359CA9.48698953@rcn.com> I am not sure what the real difference between 'elliptical' and 'fine line' styli is. I suspect that it's more Marketing that Engineering. If you look at an 'elliptical' stylus through a microscope, you'll see that it's not really elliptical, but spherical with 4 corners ground flat. If you look at a fine line stylus, you'll see that it's still spherical with 4 corners ground flat, but maybe a somewhat deeper grind. They do approximate an ellipse, but look nothing like the artist renditions shown in ads. -- Ron Salim Marzuki wrote: > > Interesting ! Given my budget I was about to ask whether nak audience > prefer an elliptical MC versus a fineline MM of the same make - yet series > III is elliptical. Looks like this stylus business is another matter of art > more than science. Reading Van den Hul's page made me think that he is a > believer of stylus shape first and then type (MC) in that order ? > > Best regards, > Salim SM > or maybe the case that 'art' is science that hasn't been fully mastered yet > .... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ron > To: naktalk at naks.com > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:12 PM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] What's responsible for the improvement? Salim....(OT) > > Mark Hugo wrote: > > > > > > FIRST good speakers, THEN ample power to drive them(as stated iin > > one post) and THEN looking at the front end is perhaps applicable > > today in the digital age when the variations in perceivable quality > > from the front end are more subtle than in the analogue world. > > So far, I couldn't agree more. This exactly matches my own > experiences. However... > > > I have found (because very few mag reviewers seem able to just > > say it) the step up from MM to MC is, in general, much more > > than just more money. It is a very big leap in quality. > > Detail is of a completely different and superior order. I'm > > not saying that there are no nice crisp 'n clean MMs, and > > that there aren't a couple of dullard MCs out there. (I > > haven't heard any though). But there seems a reliable rule > > of thumb here that might make rediscovering your record > > collection more rewarding than you had thought!! > > ... is not true, IME. I have always been a fan of Shure V-15 > cartridges. Many years ago, a dealer talked me into replacing > my V-15 III with an Ortofon MC cartridge. The MC sound was, > to me, restricted and lifeless. The MC pickup did not deliver > the airy highs and great detail, as advertised. Due to the low > output, noise level was higher. Not to mention that it cost > more than twice the V-15. Luckily, I still retained my old > cartridge. Three months later I reinstalled it and the dealer > agreed to take the Ortofon back. Later on, I replaced the > cartridge with a V-15VMR, for an audible improvement. Bottom > line: To me a MM cartridge is preferable to a MC one. > > -- Ron > > > Cheers, > > > > Marc > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ezio_lucenti at tin.it Mon Jan 27 22:05:57 2003 From: ezio_lucenti at tin.it (Ezio) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:05:57 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] What's responsible for the improvement? Salim....(OT) In-Reply-To: <001001c2c644$55a44560$7ae5193e@oemcomputer> References: <3E354C55.B3D6EE4C@rcn.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030127220122.00ab48b0@box.tin.it> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ra.ah at rcn.com Mon Jan 27 22:25:02 2003 From: ra.ah at rcn.com (Ron) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:25:02 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] What's responsible for the improvement? Salim....(OT) References: <001001c2c644$55a44560$7ae5193e@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <3E35A3AE.55E870A5@rcn.com> In theory, MC cartridges should have an edge, because the moving mass can be made much smaller than MM (3 turns of thinner than human hair wire VS. a piece of metal). I suspect that in practice, the difference in mass is not as significant as many other characteristics: compliance, total cartridge mass, freedom from resonances, etc., etc.. The specific Ortofon I mentioned before sounded good enough, but the sound had a sense of strain, as if one was listening from a distance or through a curtain. Shure cartridges sound very 'open', as if one is listening from 3rd row center in a concert. Sound of Stanton cartridges, though not as good (this is for top of the line for both, at the time), also had this open quality. I heard a Benz cartridge, just once (have no idea what model it was), and was seriously unimpressed... -- Ron Graham Nelson wrote: > > Len Gregory (The Cartridge Man) in the UK hand makes MM cartridges at a very > high price. He claims MM cartridges, if they are properly made (and he > maintains most are not!) will always sound better than a MC because the > signal path is shorter ... Apart from his own cartridges, the cheapest > decent MM cartridge that he would recommend was a Shure VST V. (That was > before the event of the V15VMR, which I think takes the same stylus as the > VST V.) He also maintains that his top of the range MM (can't recall how > much it is - £600???) beats any MC at the same price and even twice the > price ... He would, wouldn't he! But it's worth talking to the guy - he's > not a salesman, he just passionately believes in what he's doing ... > > BTW, last time I spoke to him he told me he sells more of his cartridges to > the US market than anywhere else. US audiophiles, he told me appreciate the > benefits of MMs whereas the UK market has been duped into believing in the > myth of MCs ... Don't shoot me for saying that! I'm only telling you what > he told me!!! > > Gra' > > Graham > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > Ron > > Sent: 27 January 2003 15:12 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] What's responsible for the improvement? > > Salim....(OT) > > > > > > > > Mark Hugo wrote: > > > > > > Hi Salim, and all > > > > > > Quoting you; > > > > > > "Which one do you think made the biggest change compared to > > > first time we hear those LPs, stylus or speakers ?" > > > > > > As some of the others have said, this is indeed an interesting > > > question. If I were to look at the system to which referred > > > specifically, the piece of the audio change that was responsible > > > for a quantum improvement over a MM turntable system from > > > yesteryear it would be the move up to a top grade MC. > > > > > > Firstly, the quality of the LP has improved to an extent. They > > > are less subject to the extremes of mass production. The Mobile > > > Fidelity and Simply Vinyl 200g pressings are (amongst others) > > > extremely good but, and this is a big but, you have to have the > > > gear to extract the magic from the grooves. The cantilever on > > > these new generation estoteric MCs is hard to see it is so fine. > > > I refer to cartridges like the Esprit mentioned already, the Van > > > den Hul Grasshopper and the Linn Troika. > > > > > > The recording of the ELP was cut in 1973 or so. The Esprit > > > extracted from it detail that has to be heard to be believed. > > > He put both records through his Nitty Gritty Record Cleaner > > > as a standard precursor to playing them. That way, he applied > > > the minimum wear factor to both LP and cartridge. His > > > observation is that provided a record is properly cleaned, > > > (even if it is worn) and then played using a good quality, > > > well aligned, light weight arm/unworn stylus, the wear on > > > the record is negligible. These "theories" that suggested > > > 5-10 hi-fi playings was all you could hope to get out of a > > > record must have applied to those horrible old heavyweight > > > "radiogram" outfits that lathed their way through your music > > > collections. > > > > > > I think it's the cartridge because before (18 months ago) he > > > had the same cartridge with an SME IV arm (not the V) on a > > > Linn Basik. It was nearly as impressive. What it lacked was > > > the bass weight and "dark silence" of the full dress Sondek. > > > The phon stage was also the same. The cabling has remained > > > the same. He has no power conditioner. > > > > > > Jim is correct when he says that listening environments are > > > important. We often forget that. We may have been listening > > > in our bedrooms in those days. > > > > > > Speakers can have a major impact on the experience, but in this > > > case, they have remained the same (three way sealed units from > > > Infinity). I forget the model number. In the old days we > > > listened to those ELP records on an old valve Philip's radiogram > > > (the vinyl and acetate slicing and ripping machine referred to > > > earlier) and that had a single full range speaker. So the question > > > "is it the speakers or the sylus" is valid). But listening to the > > > same record on a Technics SL1200 turntable with a Shure M75 / NAD > > > 3020/ Mordaunt Short MS20i was no where near the same experience. > > > I accept that the replay chain was of a lower pedigree. But somehow, > > > one can hear where the game is being lost. > > > > > > FIRST good speakers, THEN ample power to drive them(as stated iin > > > one post) and THEN looking at the front end is perhaps applicable > > > today in the digital age when the variations in perceivable quality > > > from the front end are more subtle than in the analogue world. > > > > So far, I couldn't agree more. This exactly matches my own > > experiences. However... > > > > > I have found (because very few mag reviewers seem able to just > > > say it) the step up from MM to MC is, in general, much more > > > than just more money. It is a very big leap in quality. > > > Detail is of a completely different and superior order. I'm > > > not saying that there are no nice crisp 'n clean MMs, and > > > that there aren't a couple of dullard MCs out there. (I > > > haven't heard any though). But there seems a reliable rule > > > of thumb here that might make rediscovering your record > > > collection more rewarding than you had thought!! > > > > ... is not true, IME. I have always been a fan of Shure V-15 > > cartridges. Many years ago, a dealer talked me into replacing > > my V-15 III with an Ortofon MC cartridge. The MC sound was, > > to me, restricted and lifeless. The MC pickup did not deliver > > the airy highs and great detail, as advertised. Due to the low > > output, noise level was higher. Not to mention that it cost > > more than twice the V-15. Luckily, I still retained my old > > cartridge. Three months later I reinstalled it and the dealer > > agreed to take the Ortofon back. Later on, I replaced the > > cartridge with a V-15VMR, for an audible improvement. Bottom > > line: To me a MM cartridge is preferable to a MC one. > > > > -- Ron > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Marc > > > > = > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Mon Jan 27 22:56:48 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 08:56:48 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Calibration Alignment Tape Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E94@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Hi Glen, it's good to hear from someone else that lives in Melbourne. Been a nak fan/owner since 1985/1988. As you may have heard from the rest of the group the nak alignment tapes are different to standard alignment tapes. I would definitely take Rons advice in that you get your machine aligned by a proper Nak professional, and when you receive you unit, create your own calibration tape. This is exactly what I did when I received my RX505 from the great Stephen Sank (who I'm sure you will hear of in this discussion group), I then created my own alignment tape and calibrated my other decks (480, ZX9, BX300). Stay well Glen. Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: Mr Glen Anthony [mailto:mglen at melbpc.org.au] Sent: Monday, 27 January 2003 7:58 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Calibration Alignment Tape Hello Everyone I am new to the group , my name is Glen and my location is Melbourne Australia , I have been in Electronics Engineering for employment for the past 18 years. back in 1984 I had to sell my Nakamichi 600 deck due to priorities with much reluctance and regret. I now own a Nakamichi 600 series II deck , I just love that angled Wedge front panel , what style , rack handles standard , great ergonomics , OK I maybe nostalgic but I'm not the only one http://www.hi-fiworld.co.uk/hfw/oldeworldehtml/nakamichi600.html OK it may not be a performer like all those that followed onwards but it did set the standard for change , aswell estabish Nakamichi as a name not to be taken lightly and only a serious quality manufacturer. Now to my Subject at hand -:Calibration Alignment Tape I am very interested in sourcing a good quality "Calibration Alignment Tape" to setup the Azimuth Correctly; 1/ I notice on Ebay recently this auction seller "electronix" had their own business website for a calibration tape http://www.electronix.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/7360 going for a special price of US$14.99 from US$19.95 stating that their tape is equal to or better than OEM tapes.....other than the general blurb no specific of how the tape is made. 2/ I see at an EMTEC{Basf} representative has Calibration Tapes http://home.flash.net/~mrltapes/cassvend.htm starting at US$60.00...and are made in "real time speed" not in a high speed duplicator.. 3/ a couple of weeks ago or more , on Ebay I saw Nakamichi Calibration Tapes of various sorts going for high prices up around the US$50.00.... is there another source for Nakamichi Calibration Alignment Tapes if so where , New or Otherwise??????????? [ " I would really appreciate What is NakTalk opinion on these or other sources not mention ???"] I look forward to everyones responses and adding to other subject matter, thankyou. Glen. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n.van.wijnen at home.nl Tue Jan 28 00:18:10 2003 From: n.van.wijnen at home.nl (norman van wijnen) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 00:18:10 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) References: <3B4F37B0.50CA3FDA.026D48C1@netscape.net> <3E2DCFA8.B4664152@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <004401c2c65a$5bd9c570$0400a7c0@CC132114B> Hi, for the database: Norman van Wijnen Netherlands Nakamichi ZX7 - N482 -PA5 - CA5 and NR200 and last but not least soundspace 3 so we can wake up with (a little poor) nak sound great brand Norman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Volpatti" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:54 Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: NakTalkers (In a global sense) > I've been surprised to learn that you guys are younger than I expected. Not that it matters, but I expected most of > you to be in your 50s and possibly 60s. Seems that most of us are in our 30s and 40s. Interesting. > > I had one more idea for the data base. I'd love to have a face to go with the names of all you NakTalkers. Is there > any interest in uploading a photo of each NakTalker, taken with his beloved Nakamichi equipment? I realize this could > create a bandwidth issue for KJ and the database but I thought I would throw the idea out to you and see what you > think. > > Jim Volpatti > Nakless in San Francisco > > > > Nick wrote: > > > Hello, Mr.Blues and other Naktalkers, > > > > Please forgive me for being one of the last in the queue for Naktalk database... > > > > Nicholas Gornostayev, 32, Moscow, The Russian Federation. > > > > My Nak collection is not large but tasty: 700TriTracer, CR-7, ZX-9, NR-200, & T-100 + a small gadget called DM-10. > > > > With the very best wishes to all Naktalkers all over the world, > > > > Nicholas. > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp > > > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From jvolpatti at earthlink.net Tue Jan 28 02:36:06 2003 From: jvolpatti at earthlink.net (Jim Volpatti) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 17:36:06 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] What's responsible for the improvement? Salim....(OT) References: <001001c2c644$55a44560$7ae5193e@oemcomputer> <3E35A3AE.55E870A5@rcn.com> Message-ID: <3E35DE86.C7BF1629@earthlink.net> Were these cartridges auditioned in the same system? A system that was familiar to you? Were the cartridges and tone arms set up correctly? Even dealers are guilty of poor set up at times. One has to be careful to take all of these factors into consideration before judging cartridge performance. Jim Volpatti Ron wrote: > In theory, MC cartridges should have an edge, because the > moving mass can be made much smaller than MM (3 turns of > thinner than human hair wire VS. a piece of metal). I > suspect that in practice, the difference in mass is not > as significant as many other characteristics: compliance, > total cartridge mass, freedom from resonances, etc., etc.. > > The specific Ortofon I mentioned before sounded good > enough, but the sound had a sense of strain, as if one was > listening from a distance or through a curtain. Shure > cartridges sound very 'open', as if one is listening from > 3rd row center in a concert. Sound of Stanton cartridges, > though not as good (this is for top of the line for both, > at the time), also had this open quality. I heard a Benz > cartridge, just once (have no idea what model it was), and > was seriously unimpressed... > > -- Ron From timbarrett at cox.net Tue Jan 28 05:04:30 2003 From: timbarrett at cox.net (timbarrett at cox.net) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 23:04:30 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] What's responsible for the improvement? Salim....(OT) In-Reply-To: <3E35DE86.C7BF1629@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3E35BAFE.7336.13ACF8F@localhost> Speaking of pickup arms, is anyone out there familiar with the Magnapan Unitrak 1? And, would you have any idea where to find a mounting template or what the proper mounting radii is? I've got all the hardware but no template. Tim On 27 Jan 2003 at 17:36, Jim Volpatti wrote: > Were these cartridges auditioned in the same system? A system that was > familiar to you? Were the cartridges and tone arms set up correctly? > Even dealers are guilty of poor set up at times. One has to be careful > to take all of these factors into consideration before judging > cartridge performance. > > Jim Volpatti > > > > Ron wrote: > > > In theory, MC cartridges should have an edge, because the > > moving mass can be made much smaller than MM (3 turns of > > thinner than human hair wire VS. a piece of metal). I > > suspect that in practice, the difference in mass is not > > as significant as many other characteristics: compliance, > > total cartridge mass, freedom from resonances, etc., etc.. > > > > The specific Ortofon I mentioned before sounded good > > enough, but the sound had a sense of strain, as if one was > > listening from a distance or through a curtain. Shure > > cartridges sound very 'open', as if one is listening from > > 3rd row center in a concert. Sound of Stanton cartridges, > > though not as good (this is for top of the line for both, > > at the time), also had this open quality. I heard a Benz > > cartridge, just once (have no idea what model it was), and > > was seriously unimpressed... > > > > -- Ron > > ========-------------------------------------------------------------- > ----========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========-------------------------------------------------------------- > ----========= From jvolpatti at earthlink.net Tue Jan 28 05:41:56 2003 From: jvolpatti at earthlink.net (Jim Volpatti) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 20:41:56 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] What's responsible for the improvement? Salim....(OT) References: <3E35BAFE.7336.13ACF8F@localhost> Message-ID: <3E360A14.A92AB8E8@earthlink.net> Hi Tim, Have you contacted Magnepan directly? If not, here's their contact information. http://www.magnepan.com/1-800-474-1646/contact.html I know the tonearm was manufactured in the late 70s/early 80s but someone there should be able to help. If all else fails, speak to Jim Winey himself. As president of the company, he should have a vested interest in helping his customers. Good luck! Jim Volpatti timbarrett at cox.net wrote: > Speaking of pickup arms, is anyone out there familiar with the > Magnapan Unitrak 1? And, would you have any idea where to find a > mounting template or what the proper mounting radii is? I've got all the > hardware but no template. > > Tim From jamesbakner at yahoo.com Tue Jan 28 06:38:54 2003 From: jamesbakner at yahoo.com (James bakner) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:38:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] RE: recorded on the DR 3 today. In-Reply-To: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201E90@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Message-ID: <20030128053854.34354.qmail@web40310.mail.yahoo.com> The keyboardist of the local rock/jazz band "Ringsend" brought me an advanced copy of their new CD due out next week 'Sunday Brunch at the Gentleman's club'. I figured I'd record it so that I could listen to it in the car and in the kitchen..... I used a Maxell XL II, Bias was at the 12:00 position, Maximum Record Level was +3 to +5, Dolby was OFF. The Recording was very close to the origional. Track 2 on the CD was a thirty second track of piano chords with the drummer tapping on the cymbols and thumping on the bass drum. The cassette recording had slightly less "air" or "tsssss" between taps of the cymbols and there was slightly less "umph" to the bass drum. The piano chords were all there and unwavering... I used the "counter search" button and replayed the passage about fifteen times to marvel at the good sound, and cued up the CD player after each two or three plays just to compare the tape to the origional.... Then, I played the tape on my NAD 613 and Yamaha KXR470. The tape sounded good and very listenable on those machines, slightly less detail and slightly less bass, than on the Nak, but the treble was all there. both the NAD and the Yamaha have a "Play Trim" knob and I felt no need to tweak it away from the 12:00 position the way I do with many commercial pre recorded tapes, or some of my own tapes recorded twenty years ago. I had read about tape compatibility concerns between Nak decks and other decks, but in this case, I would consider __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From Andy.M.Dundis at ue-corp.com Tue Jan 28 14:26:48 2003 From: Andy.M.Dundis at ue-corp.com (Dundis, Andy) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 07:26:48 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Marathon Tapes Message-ID: hello nak'rs, what's the latest on the Marathon Tape(s)& subsequent transfer to CDs? availability?? jus' curious. andy Please visit Utility Engineering, Grand Sponsor of ELECTRIC POWER 2003 at booth 1125 on March 4-6 in Houston, Texas. Details at http://www.electricpowerexpo.com ----------------------------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER: This e-mail and files transmitted with it are the property of Utility Engineering Corporation and/or its affiliates, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not one of the named recipients or otherwise have reason to believe that you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. From ra.ah at rcn.com Tue Jan 28 16:10:55 2003 From: ra.ah at rcn.com (Ron) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:10:55 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] What's responsible for the improvement? Salim....(OT) References: <001001c2c644$55a44560$7ae5193e@oemcomputer> <3E35A3AE.55E870A5@rcn.com> <3E35DE86.C7BF1629@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3E369D7F.3D6DB3BB@rcn.com> The cartridges were auditioned in the exact same system. The system was very familiar to me and I listened to the same LPs, that I was also familiar with. 'Auditioned' is really the wrong word... I *lived* with both cartridges for a while (several months for the Ortofon, several years -- before and after the Ortofon -- to the Shure). Both cartridges were installed in a Dual 701. I owned the TT several years and put cartridges in it several times. I have installed many cartridges in my life (easily, hundreds) and can't believe I made a mistake exactly with that Ortofon. I believe there was nothing wrong with either the cartridge or the installation. The dealer that sold it to me was also a friend (well, kinda). He came over to listen to the cartridge after I told him how unhappy I was and thought it sounded great and 'musical'... Nonetheless, he agreed to take it back (after several months of use) for full credit. (FWIW, he also agreed that top of the line Shure cartridges sounded excellent for a fraction of the cost of the competition). I have to stress again that I do not claim the Ortofon sounded bad, or that MC cartridges are necessarily inferior. All I am saying is, the sound quality of a cartridge depends on many characteristics and MC vs. MM is just one factor of many. Specific design and implementation are more important, as is listener taste. -- Ron Jim Volpatti wrote: > > Were these cartridges auditioned in the same system? A system that was familiar to you? > Were the cartridges and tone arms set up correctly? Even dealers are guilty of poor set up > at times. One has to be careful to take all of these factors into consideration before > judging cartridge performance. > > Jim Volpatti > > Ron wrote: > > > In theory, MC cartridges should have an edge, because the > > moving mass can be made much smaller than MM (3 turns of > > thinner than human hair wire VS. a piece of metal). I > > suspect that in practice, the difference in mass is not > > as significant as many other characteristics: compliance, > > total cartridge mass, freedom from resonances, etc., etc.. > > > > The specific Ortofon I mentioned before sounded good > > enough, but the sound had a sense of strain, as if one was > > listening from a distance or through a curtain. Shure > > cartridges sound very 'open', as if one is listening from > > 3rd row center in a concert. Sound of Stanton cartridges, > > though not as good (this is for top of the line for both, > > at the time), also had this open quality. I heard a Benz > > cartridge, just once (have no idea what model it was), and > > was seriously unimpressed... > > > > -- Ron > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Mhugo at sunint.co.za Tue Jan 28 16:47:39 2003 From: Mhugo at sunint.co.za (Mark Hugo) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:47:39 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] What's responsible for the improvement? Salim....(OT) Message-ID: Thanks Ron form the comments on the Shure V15VMR which I have heard nothing but good things about - but have not personally heard it. I have heard it is also the finest or trackers. As you point out it also is a very fair price. Does it have with that most decent of MM virtues - the replaceable stylus? Cheers, Marc >>> ra.ah at rcn.com 01/28/03 05:10PM >>> The cartridges were auditioned in the exact same system. The system was very familiar to me and I listened to the same LPs, that I was also familiar with. 'Auditioned' is really the wrong word... I *lived* with both cartridges for a while (several months for the Ortofon, several years -- before and after the Ortofon -- to the Shure). Both cartridges were installed in a Dual 701. I owned the TT several years and put cartridges in it several times. I have installed many cartridges in my life (easily, hundreds) and can't believe I made a mistake exactly with that Ortofon. I believe there was nothing wrong with either the cartridge or the installation. The dealer that sold it to me was also a friend (well, kinda). He came over to listen to the cartridge after I told him how unhappy I was and thought it sounded great and 'musical'... Nonetheless, he agreed to take it back (after several months of use) for full credit. (FWIW, he also agreed that top of the line Shure cartridges sounded excellent for a fraction of the cost of the competition). I have to stress again that I do not claim the Ortofon sounded bad, or that MC cartridges are necessarily inferior. All I am saying is, the sound quality of a cartridge depends on many characteristics and MC vs. MM is just one factor of many. Specific design and implementation are more important, as is listener taste. -- Ron Jim Volpatti wrote: > > Were these cartridges auditioned in the same system? A system that was familiar to you? > Were the cartridges and tone arms set up correctly? Even dealers are guilty of poor set up > at times. One has to be careful to take all of these factors into consideration before > judging cartridge performance. > > Jim Volpatti > > Ron wrote: > > > In theory, MC cartridges should have an edge, because the > > moving mass can be made much smaller than MM (3 turns of > > thinner than human hair wire VS. a piece of metal). I > > suspect that in practice, the difference in mass is not > > as significant as many other characteristics: compliance, > > total cartridge mass, freedom from resonances, etc., etc.. > > > > The specific Ortofon I mentioned before sounded good > > enough, but the sound had a sense of strain, as if one was > > listening from a distance or through a curtain. Shure > > cartridges sound very 'open', as if one is listening from > > 3rd row center in a concert. Sound of Stanton cartridges, > > though not as good (this is for top of the line for both, > > at the time), also had this open quality. I heard a Benz > > cartridge, just once (have no idea what model it was), and > > was seriously unimpressed... > > > > -- Ron > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient/s. If you are not the intended recipient, you cannot use, copy, distribute, disclose or retain the email or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying to this message and to permanently delete it and all attachments from your computer. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present in this email and the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. From ra.ah at rcn.com Tue Jan 28 17:53:23 2003 From: ra.ah at rcn.com (Ron) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 11:53:23 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] What's responsible for the improvement?Salim....(OT) References: Message-ID: <3E36B583.21AC309D@rcn.com> Mark Hugo wrote: > > Thanks Ron form the comments on the Shure V15VMR which I have heard nothing but good things about - but have not personally heard it. I have heard it is also the finest or trackers. As you point out it also is a very fair price. Does it have with that most decent of MM virtues - the replaceable stylus? Sure. All you have to do is pull the stylus assembly off. I do this occasionally, just for cleaning. -- Ron > > Cheers, > > Marc > > >>> ra.ah at rcn.com 01/28/03 05:10PM >>> > > The cartridges were auditioned in the exact same system. The > system was very familiar to me and I listened to the same LPs, > that I was also familiar with. 'Auditioned' is really the > wrong word... I *lived* with both cartridges for a while > (several months for the Ortofon, several years -- before and > after the Ortofon -- to the Shure). > > Both cartridges were installed in a Dual 701. I owned the TT > several years and put cartridges in it several times. I have > installed many cartridges in my life (easily, hundreds) and > can't believe I made a mistake exactly with that Ortofon. > > I believe there was nothing wrong with either the cartridge > or the installation. The dealer that sold it to me was also > a friend (well, kinda). He came over to listen to the > cartridge after I told him how unhappy I was and thought it > sounded great and 'musical'... Nonetheless, he agreed to take > it back (after several months of use) for full credit. (FWIW, > he also agreed that top of the line Shure cartridges sounded > excellent for a fraction of the cost of the competition). > > I have to stress again that I do not claim the Ortofon > sounded bad, or that MC cartridges are necessarily inferior. > All I am saying is, the sound quality of a cartridge depends > on many characteristics and MC vs. MM is just one factor of > many. Specific design and implementation are more important, > as is listener taste. > > -- Ron > > Jim Volpatti wrote: > > > > Were these cartridges auditioned in the same system? A system that was familiar to you? > > Were the cartridges and tone arms set up correctly? Even dealers are guilty of poor set up > > at times. One has to be careful to take all of these factors into consideration before > > judging cartridge performance. > > > > Jim Volpatti > > > > Ron wrote: > > > > > In theory, MC cartridges should have an edge, because the > > > moving mass can be made much smaller than MM (3 turns of > > > thinner than human hair wire VS. a piece of metal). I > > > suspect that in practice, the difference in mass is not > > > as significant as many other characteristics: compliance, > > > total cartridge mass, freedom from resonances, etc., etc.. > > > > > > The specific Ortofon I mentioned before sounded good > > > enough, but the sound had a sense of strain, as if one was > > > listening from a distance or through a curtain. Shure > > > cartridges sound very 'open', as if one is listening from > > > 3rd row center in a concert. Sound of Stanton cartridges, > > > though not as good (this is for top of the line for both, > > > at the time), also had this open quality. I heard a Benz > > > cartridge, just once (have no idea what model it was), and > > > was seriously unimpressed... > > > > > > -- Ron > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject > to legal privilege. 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Salim....(OT) References: <001001c2c644$55a44560$7ae5193e@oemcomputer> <3E35A3AE.55E870A5@rcn.com> <3E35DE86.C7BF1629@earthlink.net> <3E369D7F.3D6DB3BB@rcn.com> Message-ID: <3E36BE22.75D951F2@earthlink.net> Thanks for the details, Ron. I should have known you, of all people, would be systematic in your comparisons. It seemed from your initial email that your experience with the Shure and Ortofon was much lengthier than with the Benz. It was primarily your reference to the Benz that left me wondering if perhaps you auditioned it in an unfamiliar system, under unfamiliar conditions. I completely agree with you regarding the choice of technology versus the implementation of that technology. If I had a dollar for overtime a customer asked which is better, analog or digital, soft dome tweeters or metal, solid state or tubes, dynamic or panel speakers, etc, etc, etc, I could retire! Making a purchase decision would be much easier if such generalizations could be made but design and implementation vary, affecting the overall performance of each product. Jim Volpatti Ron wrote: > The cartridges were auditioned in the exact same system. The > system was very familiar to me and I listened to the same LPs, > that I was also familiar with. 'Auditioned' is really the > wrong word... I *lived* with both cartridges for a while > (several months for the Ortofon, several years -- before and > after the Ortofon -- to the Shure). > > Both cartridges were installed in a Dual 701. I owned the TT > several years and put cartridges in it several times. I have > installed many cartridges in my life (easily, hundreds) and > can't believe I made a mistake exactly with that Ortofon. > > I believe there was nothing wrong with either the cartridge > or the installation. The dealer that sold it to me was also > a friend (well, kinda). He came over to listen to the > cartridge after I told him how unhappy I was and thought it > sounded great and 'musical'... Nonetheless, he agreed to take > it back (after several months of use) for full credit. (FWIW, > he also agreed that top of the line Shure cartridges sounded > excellent for a fraction of the cost of the competition). > > I have to stress again that I do not claim the Ortofon > sounded bad, or that MC cartridges are necessarily inferior. > All I am saying is, the sound quality of a cartridge depends > on many characteristics and MC vs. MM is just one factor of > many. Specific design and implementation are more important, > as is listener taste. > > -- Ron From mglen at melbpc.org.au Tue Jan 28 19:07:59 2003 From: mglen at melbpc.org.au (Glen Anthony) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 05:07:59 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Calibration Alignment Tape Message-ID: <006001c2c6f8$33490e10$1c9c0ccb@GS1ec5ur1it7y> Thanks to everyones input (Ron,Salim,Maurits,Kannan,Thomas) very much appreciated. I have a service manual for the N600II coming soon. until then I now further realize what is necessary , I have to now look for a local specialist shipping a N600II is not cheap at a bare weight of 15Ibs/6.8Kg so would anyone happen to know of Nak specialist here in Melbourne Australia ???? It does'nt hurt to ask , if I don't the hip pocket will. I look forward to everyones responses , thankyou. Glen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From John at jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk Tue Jan 28 19:47:24 2003 From: John at jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk (John Walker) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:47:24 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] What's responsible for the improvement? Salim....(OT) References: <001001c2c644$55a44560$7ae5193e@oemcomputer> <3E35A3AE.55E870A5@rcn.com> Message-ID: <3E36D03C.7040904@jandswalker.fsnet.co.uk> I tried an Ortofon MC10 or 15 (can't remember which) in the '80s, and was not impressed. I also had a couple of Audio Technica AT-F5/OC5's back when I had a Linn turntable. None of these were particularly outstanding, indeed the OC5 had a very hard, toppy sound that I did not like at all. But the more expensive Lyra that I now have was a complete step change in quality. My wife Sarah listened for two minutes, then said "just buy it, it's streets better". (It was also several hundred pounds more, and she had every reason to try and keep the expenditure down!) I am now on my third one. I got this one from the aforementioned Mr Len Gregory, the cartridge man, with one of his new tips on it. Len will re-tip a Lydian for £250 compared to the list price of £600, and performance seems the same. Now I just happen to have here two Lyra bodies which could be re-tipped by Len. Would anyone like to make an offer for one? John Walker Ron wrote: >In theory, MC cartridges should have an edge, because the >moving mass can be made much smaller than MM (3 turns of >thinner than human hair wire VS. a piece of metal). I >suspect that in practice, the difference in mass is not >as significant as many other characteristics: compliance, >total cartridge mass, freedom from resonances, etc., etc.. > >The specific Ortofon I mentioned before sounded good >enough, but the sound had a sense of strain, as if one was >listening from a distance or through a curtain. Shure >cartridges sound very 'open', as if one is listening from >3rd row center in a concert. Sound of Stanton cartridges, >though not as good (this is for top of the line for both, >at the time), also had this open quality. I heard a Benz >cartridge, just once (have no idea what model it was), and >was seriously unimpressed... > >-- Ron > > >Graham Nelson wrote: > > >>Len Gregory (The Cartridge Man) in the UK hand makes MM cartridges at a very >>high price. He claims MM cartridges, if they are properly made (and he >>maintains most are not!) will always sound better than a MC because the >>signal path is shorter ... Apart from his own cartridges, the cheapest >>decent MM cartridge that he would recommend was a Shure VST V. (That was >>before the event of the V15VMR, which I think takes the same stylus as the >>VST V.) He also maintains that his top of the range MM (can't recall how >>much it is - £600???) beats any MC at the same price and even twice the >>price ... He would, wouldn't he! But it's worth talking to the guy - he's >>not a salesman, he just passionately believes in what he's doing ... >> >>BTW, last time I spoke to him he told me he sells more of his cartridges to >>the US market than anywhere else. US audiophiles, he told me appreciate the >>benefits of MMs whereas the UK market has been duped into believing in the >>myth of MCs ... Don't shoot me for saying that! I'm only telling you what >>he told me!!! >> >>Gra' >> >>Graham >> >> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of >>>Ron >>>Sent: 27 January 2003 15:12 >>>To: naktalk at naks.com >>>Subject: Re: [naktalk] What's responsible for the improvement? >>>Salim....(OT) >>> >>> >>> >>>Mark Hugo wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Hi Salim, and all >>>> >>>>Quoting you; >>>> >>>>"Which one do you think made the biggest change compared to >>>>first time we hear those LPs, stylus or speakers ?" >>>> >>>>As some of the others have said, this is indeed an interesting >>>>question. If I were to look at the system to which referred >>>>specifically, the piece of the audio change that was responsible >>>>for a quantum improvement over a MM turntable system from >>>>yesteryear it would be the move up to a top grade MC. >>>> >>>>Firstly, the quality of the LP has improved to an extent. They >>>>are less subject to the extremes of mass production. The Mobile >>>>Fidelity and Simply Vinyl 200g pressings are (amongst others) >>>>extremely good but, and this is a big but, you have to have the >>>>gear to extract the magic from the grooves. The cantilever on >>>>these new generation estoteric MCs is hard to see it is so fine. >>>>I refer to cartridges like the Esprit mentioned already, the Van >>>>den Hul Grasshopper and the Linn Troika. >>>> >>>>The recording of the ELP was cut in 1973 or so. The Esprit >>>>extracted from it detail that has to be heard to be believed. >>>>He put both records through his Nitty Gritty Record Cleaner >>>>as a standard precursor to playing them. That way, he applied >>>>the minimum wear factor to both LP and cartridge. His >>>>observation is that provided a record is properly cleaned, >>>>(even if it is worn) and then played using a good quality, >>>>well aligned, light weight arm/unworn stylus, the wear on >>>>the record is negligible. These "theories" that suggested >>>>5-10 hi-fi playings was all you could hope to get out of a >>>>record must have applied to those horrible old heavyweight >>>>"radiogram" outfits that lathed their way through your music >>>>collections. >>>> >>>>I think it's the cartridge because before (18 months ago) he >>>>had the same cartridge with an SME IV arm (not the V) on a >>>>Linn Basik. It was nearly as impressive. What it lacked was >>>>the bass weight and "dark silence" of the full dress Sondek. >>>>The phon stage was also the same. The cabling has remained >>>>the same. He has no power conditioner. >>>> >>>>Jim is correct when he says that listening environments are >>>>important. We often forget that. We may have been listening >>>>in our bedrooms in those days. >>>> >>>>Speakers can have a major impact on the experience, but in this >>>>case, they have remained the same (three way sealed units from >>>>Infinity). I forget the model number. In the old days we >>>>listened to those ELP records on an old valve Philip's radiogram >>>>(the vinyl and acetate slicing and ripping machine referred to >>>>earlier) and that had a single full range speaker. So the question >>>>"is it the speakers or the sylus" is valid). But listening to the >>>>same record on a Technics SL1200 turntable with a Shure M75 / NAD >>>>3020/ Mordaunt Short MS20i was no where near the same experience. >>>>I accept that the replay chain was of a lower pedigree. But somehow, >>>>one can hear where the game is being lost. >>>> >>>>FIRST good speakers, THEN ample power to drive them(as stated iin >>>>one post) and THEN looking at the front end is perhaps applicable >>>>today in the digital age when the variations in perceivable quality >>>>from the front end are more subtle than in the analogue world. >>>> >>>> >>>So far, I couldn't agree more. This exactly matches my own >>>experiences. However... >>> >>> >>> >>>>I have found (because very few mag reviewers seem able to just >>>>say it) the step up from MM to MC is, in general, much more >>>>than just more money. It is a very big leap in quality. >>>>Detail is of a completely different and superior order. I'm >>>>not saying that there are no nice crisp 'n clean MMs, and >>>>that there aren't a couple of dullard MCs out there. (I >>>>haven't heard any though). But there seems a reliable rule >>>>of thumb here that might make rediscovering your record >>>>collection more rewarding than you had thought!! >>>> >>>> >>>... is not true, IME. I have always been a fan of Shure V-15 >>>cartridges. Many years ago, a dealer talked me into replacing >>>my V-15 III with an Ortofon MC cartridge. The MC sound was, >>>to me, restricted and lifeless. The MC pickup did not deliver >>>the airy highs and great detail, as advertised. Due to the low >>>output, noise level was higher. Not to mention that it cost >>>more than twice the V-15. Luckily, I still retained my old >>>cartridge. Three months later I reinstalled it and the dealer >>>agreed to take the Ortofon back. Later on, I replaced the >>>cartridge with a V-15VMR, for an audible improvement. Bottom >>>line: To me a MM cartridge is preferable to a MC one. >>> >>>-- Ron >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Cheers, >>>> >>>>Marc >>>> >>>> >>>= >>> >>> >>> >>--- >>Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >>Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 >> >>========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >>To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >>========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >> >> > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > From kannan_s at vsnl.com Tue Jan 28 20:09:00 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 00:39:00 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] Calibration Alignment Tape Message-ID: <20030128190900.758EF114921@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Tue Jan 28 22:09:45 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:09:45 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Calibration Alignment Tape Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201EA0@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Glen I would try Tivoli hifi in Camberwell (right next door to Camberwell Volvo). They "speak" Nakamichi and would know the right people to get in touch with. Here's their address....155-157 Camberwell Rd Hawthorn East VIC 3123 Ph: (03) 9813 3533. Give them a call, they are a decent bunch. Regards Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: Glen Anthony [mailto:mglen at melbpc.org.au] Sent: Wednesday, 29 January 2003 5:08 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Calibration Alignment Tape Thanks to everyones input (Ron,Salim,Maurits,Kannan,Thomas) very much appreciated. I have a service manual for the N600II coming soon. until then I now further realize what is necessary , I have to now look for a local specialist shipping a N600II is not cheap at a bare weight of 15Ibs/6.8Kg so would anyone happen to know of Nak specialist here in Melbourne Australia ???? It does'nt hurt to ask , if I don't the hip pocket will. I look forward to everyones responses , thankyou. Glen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wheijke at xs4all.nl Tue Jan 28 23:50:25 2003 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 23:50:25 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Fixing errors on the website... Message-ID: <3E370931.C5B6BCCD@xs4all.nl> Hi All, I'm fixing some errors that are on the website, so please correct me if i'm (told) wrong and add ones that you have found! Here they are: MR-1: -Doesn't have front panel Bias fine tune. -Has support for an external noise reduction processor. MR-2: -10 segment meters only RX-202: -Doesn't have a pressure pad lifter OEM: -The OEM deck listed as Goodman is actually the british firm Goodmans TD-1200: -price new $1,195.00 (1983) -TD-1200II -price new $1,285.00 (1985) And various prices of new decks when they were released. So let the list grow! Wouter From roleo at telus.net Wed Jan 29 00:47:50 2003 From: roleo at telus.net (Roland Alford) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:47:50 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Fixing errors on the website... References: <3E370931.C5B6BCCD@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <001901c2c727$ab150a50$8075059a@desktop> Wouter, You can also add that any deck that uses the RM-580 (2 piece wireless RC) and RM-200 (wired RC) can also use the RM-5 (Wired RC). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wouter Heijke" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 2:50 PM Subject: [naktalk] Fixing errors on the website... > Hi All, > > I'm fixing some errors that are on the website, so please correct me if > i'm (told) wrong and add ones that you have found! > Here they are: > > MR-1: > -Doesn't have front panel Bias fine tune. > -Has support for an external noise reduction processor. > > MR-2: > -10 segment meters only > > RX-202: > -Doesn't have a pressure pad lifter > > OEM: > -The OEM deck listed as Goodman is actually the british firm Goodmans > > TD-1200: > -price new $1,195.00 (1983) > > -TD-1200II > -price new $1,285.00 (1985) > > And various prices of new decks when they were released. > So let the list grow! > > Wouter > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > From amar152 at comcast.net Tue Jan 28 21:27:36 2003 From: amar152 at comcast.net (alan mar) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 20:27:36 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Fixing errors on the website... In-Reply-To: <3E183A4B.458D5F37@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: Wouter- That's a pretty good list. I think the meter with only ten segments is common to the BX-300 and ZX-5, the MR-1, and the RX series. Thanks for maintaining such an excellent site! Alan From bigbear69 at netzero.net Wed Jan 29 06:42:12 2003 From: bigbear69 at netzero.net (bigbear69) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 22:42:12 -0700 Subject: FW: [naktalk] OT: Yes / ELP: Salim and Tim Message-ID: <000601c2c759$31e80060$3a503542@compaq> You are absolutely true about room acoustics Jim. I just moved into a brand new house. My living room has a vaulted ceiling so I was very weary about how my system would sound, but I must say it sounds wonderful. As for ELP/Yes. I seen ELP twice and Yes three times. My favorite ELP albums are Welcome back my friends... and Works Vol. II. Favorite Yes albums are The Yes Album and 90125. I guess between the two bands I have some 27 albums. As a matter of fact I have a radio broadcast of Yes in their prime (1979). It's a concert recorded from the L.A. Forum. My recording is o.k. but if any Nakster has a prime recdording of this concert, please speak up! -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com] On Behalf Of Jim Volpatti Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 2:44 PM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] OT: Yes / ELP: Salim and Tim Salim, I would have to say that if you are listening to those LPs in a different room than the one you were in the first time you heard the music, the room acoustics are responsible for the largest difference in what you hear now. Room acoustics are a much larger variable than any system component. Guys tend to forget that. Jim Volpatti > Salim wrote: > "Which one do you think made the biggest change compared to first time > we hear those LPs, stylus or speakers ?" ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --========= From wheijke at xs4all.nl Wed Jan 29 18:20:40 2003 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 18:20:40 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Ftp additions Message-ID: <3E380D67.9DBA8D40@xs4all.nl> I've added these files: - ZX-7 Owners Manual by Daniel Carreiro, got this one long time ago but forgot to add it to the site.. found it today! - RX-505 brochure by Blues himself -HighCom II brochure by Tom Siomopoulos I hope more people feel encouraged by these posts to also start scanning their manuals/brochures or anything else related to our Naks!! Wouter From kannan_s at vsnl.com Wed Jan 29 18:55:15 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 23:25:15 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] Patty seems to respond at Nak usa parts department!! Message-ID: <20030129175515.8B92B11497A@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john_hielman at hotmail.com Thu Jan 30 00:57:36 2003 From: john_hielman at hotmail.com (Hielman John) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 10:57:36 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Thu Jan 30 01:02:12 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:02:12 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201EA6@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> That's a good one John, I never thought of Tasmania in that way, but now that you mention it.... How's the weather their at the moment? Here in Melbourne it's still crappy. Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: Hielman John [mailto:john_hielman at hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2003 10:58 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) I would like to add my name to the list of global naktalkers. I am the proud owner of a Nak 582Z that I bought in Hong Kong brand new for US$450 way back in 1980 (the US dollar was worth next to nothing back in the Jimmy Carter days!!) I currently live on the southern outskirts of Hobart in the rudest looking island in the world (Tasmania) ... [here women are often asked to show their "maps of Tasmania" ...] ... anyway if WWIII starts, I'll be safe.... 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In the forward direction the sound is much duller and lower than the reverse. I also hear a clicking sound when the tape is playing forward like something is stuck mechanically and trying to work. Playing in reverse, everything is beautiful the way it should be for a Dragon. My guess is that the NAAC circuit or associated mechanics is jammed somehow. The seller was very cooperative (he sold me the deck for only $500.00 in good cosmetic shape) and even had the deck serviced before shipping it to me and had the pinch roller and belt replaced as well as having the "clutch adjusted". I'm not sure what the clutch is for. The service is under warranty, but being me being in Vancouver and the service center in Atlanta 3000 miles away, I kind of hate to have to ship it back there to someone i don't really trust. Any thoughts? Roland -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roleo at telus.net Thu Jan 30 01:38:28 2003 From: roleo at telus.net (Roland Alford) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:38:28 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon problem References: <000001c2c7f5$c15f5300$8075059a@desktop> Message-ID: <000e01c2c7f7$e82f2ad0$8075059a@desktop> Sorry, my first line should shave read "tickled with the sound" not "ticked" with the sound. It's sounds good in reverse. ----- Original Message ----- From: Roland Alford To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 4:21 PM Subject: [naktalk] Dragon problem I just received my Dragon and I am ticked with the sound - at least in the reverse direction. In the forward direction the sound is much duller and lower than the reverse. I also hear a clicking sound when the tape is playing forward like something is stuck mechanically and trying to work. Playing in reverse, everything is beautiful the way it should be for a Dragon. My guess is that the NAAC circuit or associated mechanics is jammed somehow. The seller was very cooperative (he sold me the deck for only $500.00 in good cosmetic shape) and even had the deck serviced before shipping it to me and had the pinch roller and belt replaced as well as having the "clutch adjusted". I'm not sure what the clutch is for. The service is under warranty, but being me being in Vancouver and the service center in Atlanta 3000 miles away, I kind of hate to have to ship it back there to someone i don't really trust. Any thoughts? Roland -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ezio_lucenti at tin.it Thu Jan 30 01:42:18 2003 From: ezio_lucenti at tin.it (Ezio) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 01:42:18 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] NakTalkers (In a global sense) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030130014039.00a74240@box.tin.it> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Thu Jan 30 03:30:02 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:30:02 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon problem Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201EA8@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Roland I think you hit the nail on the head with your assumptions. My guess is that the clicking noise is the NAAC motor trying to align the head. I'm looking at the service manual and there is a adjustment (VR824) that is the playback azimuth reference for the forward direction. If you like, take note of the position (mark it with a fine felt tip pen), then take a look at page 9 of the service manual. Look at the playback head and record head height adjustment, it refers to adjusting the NAAC in the forward direction, follow the directions. I don't own a Dragon and therefore have no experience with this problem, but I have heard of this problem discussed before on this discussion group. Regards Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: Roland Alford [mailto:roleo at telus.net] Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2003 11:38 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Dragon problem Sorry, my first line should shave read "tickled with the sound" not "ticked" with the sound. It's sounds good in reverse. ----- Original Message ----- From: Roland Alford To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 4:21 PM Subject: [naktalk] Dragon problem I just received my Dragon and I am ticked with the sound - at least in the reverse direction. In the forward direction the sound is much duller and lower than the reverse. I also hear a clicking sound when the tape is playing forward like something is stuck mechanically and trying to work. Playing in reverse, everything is beautiful the way it should be for a Dragon. My guess is that the NAAC circuit or associated mechanics is jammed somehow. The seller was very cooperative (he sold me the deck for only $500.00 in good cosmetic shape) and even had the deck serviced before shipping it to me and had the pinch roller and belt replaced as well as having the "clutch adjusted". I'm not sure what the clutch is for. The service is under warranty, but being me being in Vancouver and the service center in Atlanta 3000 miles away, I kind of hate to have to ship it back there to someone i don't really trust. Any thoughts? Roland -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kannan_s at vsnl.com Thu Jan 30 04:28:42 2003 From: kannan_s at vsnl.com (kannan_s at vsnl.com) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 08:58:42 +0530 (IST) Subject: [naktalk] Dragon problem Message-ID: <20030130032842.E763411492A@webmail.vsnl.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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Name: not available URL: From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Thu Jan 30 04:47:22 2003 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:47:22 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon problem Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D02201EAA@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> See I knew someone out there had a better (correct) answer! -----Original Message----- From: kannan_s at vsnl.com [mailto:kannan_s at vsnl.com] Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2003 2:29 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: RE: [naktalk] Dragon problem Roland You are having the classic Dragon DD motor problem - Speed difference between the Capstans is not OK in forward direction. Certain amount of skewing of tape causes Auto azimuth to lose tracking in one direction. Open the top cover and look in to two solid flywheels of Capstans rotating. When the tape is playing in forward direction apply slight finger pressure on the slower left side flywheel ( looking from front) - The tape pulling (tape take up) capstan rotates slightly faster than the one which holds back the other end to maintain the constant tape tension. If the speed differential is not perfect this problem occurs. The tape hold back capstan motor has larger friction causing it to rotate slower than the expected speed. Since this is the take up capstan in reverse play mode and the other motor is slowing down, you do not see this problem . If this is the case the minute you apply slight pressure on the hold back side flywheel the tape will play brilliantly like the reverse play mode. You will also find the Auto Azimuth functions properly like in the other direction. Coming to solution- you better send it to Stephen as it is a difficult job for an in-experienced techies - DD motor disassemby requires quite a skill. Ron should thank his CR7 motor as it is very easy to remove the capstan and clean its bearing surface unlike Dragon! Kannan Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au wrote Roland I think you hit the nail on the head with your assumptions. My guess is that the clicking noise is the NAAC motor trying to align the head. I'm looking at the service manual and there is a adjustment (VR824) that is the playback azimuth reference for the forward direction. If you like, take note of the position (mark it with a fine felt tip pen), then take a look at page 9 of the service manual. Look at the playback head and record head height adjustment, it refers to adjusting the NAAC in the forward direction, follow the directions. I don't own a Dragon and therefore have no experience with this problem, but I have heard of this problem discussed before on this discussion group. Regards Tom Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: Roland Alford [mailto:roleo at telus.net] Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2003 11:38 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Dragon problem Sorry, my first line should shave read "tickled with the sound" not "ticked" with the sound. It's sounds good in reverse. ----- Original Message ----- From: Roland Alford To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 4:21 PM Subject: [naktalk] Dragon problem I just received my Dragon and I am ticked with the sound - at least in the reverse direction. In the forward direction the sound is much duller and lower than the reverse. I also hear a clicking sound when the tape is playing forward like something is stuck mechanically and trying to work. Playing in reverse, everything is beautiful the way it should be for a Dragon. My guess is that the NAAC circuit or associated mechanics is jammed somehow. The seller was very cooperative (he sold me the deck for only $500.00 in good cosmetic shape) and even had the deck serviced before shipping it to me and had the pinch roller and belt replaced as well as having the "clutch adjusted". I'm not sure what the clutch is for. The service is under warranty, but being me being in Vancouver and the service center in Atlanta 3000 miles away, I kind of hate to have to ship it back there to someone i don't really trust. Any thoughts? Roland ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist To maintain your account please go here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Thu Jan 30 04:52:17 2003 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (smarzuki at indosat.net.id) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 10:52:17 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon problem Message-ID: <56cec5a951.5a95156cec@indosat.net.id> Hi Roland, here's another opinion ... Please make sure that pb head is precisely aligned before tinkering with NAAC electronics. Dragon should be 'easier' for the technician to align compared to regular nak due to its auto aligning nature - and if you hear clicking sound on forward play using various tapes then it won't be a good idea to send it back to same tech. The clacking sound is NAAC trying to align beyond its range. I tinkered with 2 dragons - one complete worn head and the other with half busted head - despite slightly dull sound, once physical alignment is correct the clacking sound did go away. If you don't feel like shipping the deck miles away and you want take some diy risk: first clean the heads capstan etc and observe current NAAC positions. Look at the pointer on the black box behind the transport - play tape in reverse direction, notice the pointer position and do the same for forward. On perfectly aligned head the pointer should stay roughly in the middle for both directions (use tape with good shell & recording). Assuming head height already correct you can get the azimuth right using home made test tapes recorded on your other Nak =) Now make sure you pull out the NAAC connector on the bottom board before head alignment process - and 'mark' current azimuth alignment screw position. Play 10 khz or 15khz test tones and tweak the azimuth (slowly, 2-3 notch at a time) to achieve optimum output level on both directions. Note: if az's maximum output for one direction differs by many many notch from the other direction there's a chance that head height also need to be adjusted. Reconnect the NAAC plug on bottom board and observe pointer movement. Hopefully clacking is reduced by now. Good luck ! Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: kannan_s at vsnl.com Date: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:28 am Subject: RE: [naktalk] Dragon problem > Roland > You are having the classic Dragon DD motor problem - Speed > difference between the Capstans is not OK in forward direction. > Certain amount of skewing of tape causes Auto azimuth to lose > tracking in one direction. Open the top cover and look in to two > solid flywheels of Capstans rotating. When the tape is playing in > forward direction apply slight finger pressure on the slower left > side flywheel ( looking from front) - The tape pulling (tape take > up) capstan rotates slightly faster than the one which holds back > the other end to maintain the constant tape tension. If the speed > differential is not perfect this problem occurs. The tape hold > back capstan motor has larger friction causing it to rotate slower > than the expected speed. Since this is the take up capstan in > reverse play mode and the other motor is slowing down, you do not > see this problem . > If this is the case