g:\07. razno\naktalk archive\2005\2005-1.txt ************************************************************************ From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Sat Jan 1 02:07:16 2005 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 12:07:16 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank cassette? Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D0531D7DB@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> It was actually Philips and Sony. But my guess would be TDK. Tom. -----Original Message----- From: Keith Hugo [mailto:valman13440 at yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, 30 December 2004 4:04 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank cassette? Does anyone know who came out with a blank compact cassette first,Maxell or TDK?I know TDK is a older company than Maxell but was just curious as to who introduced the first blank cassette of these two company's?Thanks for any insight..Keith. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Sat Jan 1 02:10:33 2005 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 12:10:33 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Happy new year! Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D0531D7DC@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> I would just like to say to all on this wonderful list, have a safe and wonderful 2005 to you and to your families too. Cheers, Tom Siomopoulos From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Sat Jan 1 02:17:41 2005 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 12:17:41 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Happy new year! Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D0531D7DD@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> I almost forgot, Salim it's good to hear your safe my friend. Tom. -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Siomopoulos [mailto:Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 1 January 2005 12:11 To: Naktalk mail list (E-mail) Subject: [naktalk] Happy new year! I would just like to say to all on this wonderful list, have a safe and wonderful 2005 to you and to your families too. Cheers, Tom Siomopoulos ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From ti at amb.org Sat Jan 1 02:40:26 2005 From: ti at amb.org (Ti Kan) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 17:40:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] Adding yet another Nak Message-ID: <20050101014026.EDEFF17D42@smtp.amb.org> Hi all, In addition to the excellent Dragon, a CR-7A is en-route to me and I think it will be an wonderful companion for the Dragon. Like any piece of audio equipment I collect, I would love to get the owner and service manuals (PDF format is cool). Anyone has a copy of these for the CR-7A handy? Thanks in advance... -Ti -- Ti Kan http://www.amb.org/ti Vorsprung durch Technik From bsam8c55 at earthlink.net Sun Jan 2 00:22:55 2005 From: bsam8c55 at earthlink.net (Benedict Samonte) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 18:22:55 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Happy New Year!! Message-ID: <200412312323.iBVNNQHY010622@zebra.naks.com> Hello Everybody, just want to wish everybody here in the forum a Happy New Year!! Also to pray for the victims in the Tsunami disaster and to help whenever we can no matter how small. (Count our Blessings). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Glacier Bkgrd.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2743 bytes Desc: not available URL: From BOEING747600 at aol.com Sat Jan 1 02:32:31 2005 From: BOEING747600 at aol.com (BOEING747600 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 20:32:31 EST Subject: [naktalk] WISHING EVERYONE A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR!! Message-ID: <1e3.31f2e45e.2f0757af@aol.com> Hi Guys! Hope everyone is doing fine! Wishing all of you great guys! A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR!! and thanks for helping me with my Nakamichi Dragon, the 700 zxl , the 480 and the Revox B-710 Mk1 Cassette Deck. This possibly THE BEST! forum in the world! With Best Regards! Ali -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From graker at woods-and-waters.com Sat Jan 1 05:16:19 2005 From: graker at woods-and-waters.com (Kermit V. Gray) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 23:16:19 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] List: no longer a "FAMILY" In-Reply-To: <41D5858F.2060203@xs4all.nl> References: <005101c4ef69$3fdb2eb0$2c773242@CopyTech> <41D5858F.2060203@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <41D62413.7020806@woods-and-waters.com> Wouter Heijke wrote: > > Only I hope the list can go on for years, I got my 600 recently fixed > with the help of the members of this list! > Hey, Hey, this is great news! Now that's a great way to start the New Year: getting your Nak 600 running! From one 600 owner to another, may the good sounds be yours! -- Kermit Gray Woods & Waters/KVG Labs 16371 Lake Point Drive Bonner Springs, KS 66012 USA 816-918-5058 cellphone 913-422-0957 business http://www.woods-and-waters.com From alexcozac at hotmail.com Sat Jan 1 06:59:10 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 07:59:10 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] List: no longer a "FAMILY" In-Reply-To: <19a.2d4f1e0d.2f06dfcf@aol.com> Message-ID: Please! Don't be MAD...with us!!! Good luck in this newer 2005 year! ALEX! >From: BADANTH at aol.com >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: Re: [naktalk] List: no longer a "FAMILY" >Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 12:01:03 EST > >Wow, see what I miss when I'm away! I don't contribute much to the list but >that is because I'm an idiot. I learn as much as possible and then I try >it, >buy it, get it and forget it. I then peek in to see how the regulars are >doing >and occassionally say hello. > >HELLO, to all my fellow enthusiasts and a Happy New Year to all... > >Love the music........ > >Anthony Von Stupid > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From alexcozac at hotmail.com Sat Jan 1 07:01:06 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 08:01:06 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] List: no longer a "FAMILY" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Add also Sony's ELCASET!!!! ALEX! >From: "neil lipes" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: Re: [naktalk] List: no longer a "FAMILY" >Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 12:37:47 -0500 > >Not as long as folks still listen and enjoy! > >Speak about rare formats......remember the RCA 4-track cassette from the >late 50's and early 60's? > >>From: greynolds at newsguy.com >>Reply-To: greynolds at newsguy.com, Talk about Nakamichi Cassette >>Decks >>To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >>Subject: Re: [naktalk] List: no longer a "FAMILY" >>Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 11:52:11 -0500 >> >>From: "neil lipes" >> >> > No format will ever die..... >> >>Hasn't 8-Track officially died? :) >>-- >>Geoffrey Reynolds >>http://www.crestron.geoff-reynolds.net >>========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >>========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >>Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >>========---------------------------------------------------------========= > >_________________________________________________________________ >Don�t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! >http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.com/ From graker at woods-and-waters.com Sat Jan 1 06:23:54 2005 From: graker at woods-and-waters.com (Kermit V. Gray) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 00:23:54 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Beocord 5500 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41D633EA.5080702@woods-and-waters.com> Hi Ben, ng ben wrote: > Wonder if > any Nakers out there have made a A/B comparison on a B&O vs Nak - would > be interesting to know which Nak. I recall a thread on "the best > cassette deck ever made" here on Naktalk, where a sole response rated > the Beocord 9000 betters the Dragon(!). Always wondered by what > measure of record or playback capability (technical or sonically) the > writer was making the judgement. Another great way to start the New Year: Nakamichi Versus Bang & Olufsen. Sounds like a great title for an action movie. Well, to start, I use my cassette decks professionally as well as for my own musical bliss. I judge ANY recorder for "hi(gh)" its "fi" is -- especially compared against live, unprocessed musical performances. This is th eultimate test; "My new 'Supersound Millenium Falcon 2000XYZ' is better than my old 'Boca Grande Megatape Ultratech 1000'" isn't really that great of a test, yet such "reviews" are what most columns seems to be. So here goes, one Nakaphiliac's OPINION, for what that's worth. My currently running cassette decks are: Nakamichi 550, Nakamichi 600-II, Bang & Olufsen Beocord 9000, Revox B710 Mk. II, Marantz PMD-430, (H)Onkyo TA-RW11, and Pioneer CT-F7272. The Pioneer CT-F7272 is better than the Dragon, of course. (No, it isn't!) [For reasons of rampant mediocrity, we'll skip the Pioneer (a.k.a." Cryin'-Ear" in the 1970s), Onkyo and Marantz. Don't tell anyone I own these, please.] So here's a quick pro-audio review: Nakamichi 550: Excellent sound that is natural and clean yet has an infectious quality (high fun factor), excellent dynamic range and headroom because of IEC1 EQ. Open, airy spatial imaging, with a sense of depth and immediacy that is quite lifelike. Sound quality reminiscent of the better studio reel-to-reels. Hard to believe this is "only" a 1970s cassette deck! Studio quality in a portable package. STRENGTHS -- Outstanding limiter, very good microphone preamps, excellent meters, very good transport that is simple and practical, ability to fine-tune bias manually, easily cleaned and maintained, holds tape head azimuth very well over time, and lower subjective tape noise because of noise floor spectrum. WEAKNESSES -- awkward tape visibility, two-head design. Nakamichi 600-II: Excellent sound that is natural and clean yet has an infectious quality (high fun factor), excellent dynamic range and headroom because of IEC1 EQ. Open, airy spatial imaging, with a sense of depth and immediacy that is quite lifelike. Sound quality reminiscent of the better studio reel-to-reels. Hard to believe this is "only" a 1970s cassette deck! Studio quality and reliability with style. STRENGTHS -- Excellent meters, very good transport that is simple and practical, ability to fine-tune bias manually, ability to fine-tune Dolby Level manually, ability to select 70uS and 120 uS EQ for Chrome tape, very easily cleaned and maintained, holds tape head azimuth very well over time, and lower subjective tape noise because of noise floor spectrum. WEAKNESSES -- Two-head design, ski-slope cabinet doesn't stack well. Bang & Olufsen Beocord 9000: Excellent dynamic range and very good headroom despite IEC2 EQ, excellent sound that is subtly flattering (a trademark of most B&O products, seemingly). Tight spatial imaging, with very good bass detail; "sweet" highs that seem clean but give the deck an almost dark character. Seems to emphasize styling and gadgets over substance. STRENGTHS -- Computer Controlled Calibration does a great job optimizing it for any tape, holds tape head azimuth well over time, and gentle tape handling. WEAKNESSES -- mediocre meters, very awkward lack of clear tape visibility that requires you use a tape end warning system, unpleasant to listen to without noise reduction, counter-intuitive procedure to put into record mode, DIN input-output, jacks only, marginal microphone preamps, mechanically ordinary and troublesome tape drive mechanism lacks the sophistication and refinement shown by Nakamichi decks (and to a lesser extent by Revox), two-head design, ski-slope cabinet doesn't stack well and is more of a top loader in concept than the Nak 600-II, and runs hot. Revox B710 Mk. II: Excellent dynamic range and headroom despite IEC2 EQ, excellent sound that is natural and clean, suggestive of a studio deck. tight spatial imaging, though lacking bass detail, which seems to typify Revox. Clean highs with almost a sense of airiness. A true "superdeck," although it always seems to need some tweaking or maintenance, making it finicky like a fine sports car. STRENGTHS -- Three head design, accurate peak meters, visually impressive in an intimidating way, excellent tape handling, excellent tape visibility, stackable front loader, built like a main battle tank, good mic preamps, mic/line input mixing, the best headphone amp I've heard in a cassette deck, perfect match to a Revox B77 (if you have one), and excellent snob appeal (if required.) WEAKNESSES -- calibration of bias, Eq and Dolby requires opening the deck up and performing elaborate and tedious procedures, thus you cannot get the peak performance of the deck unless you stick with only one type of cassette tape; dual-capstan, three motor tape drive can be troublesome to keep in top running order, doesn't hold tape head azimuth or any calibration settings well over time, runs hot, meters doesn't give good indication of average levels, and switch knobs are ridiculously fragile for a deck of this price. Best Sound with no noise reduction: Nakamichi 550 and 600-II, although the 550's limiter gives it a slight edge. Best Sound with Dolby B: Nakamichi 550 and 600-II because the Best Sound with Dolby C: Revox B710 by default. Best Sound with dbx: The Beocord 9000 has the best built-in dbx I've heard to date. Period. Nevertheless, connect an outboard dbx 222 or 224 to a naakmichi 600, switch its Dolby Off, choose Chrome tape, set EQ to 120 uS and you'll experience one of the best recordings of your life. As close to Big Label sound as you can get without sitting in a control room on Studio Wow! You'll understand my passion for the older Naks! Best Overall Sound: Hard to call. I'm addicted to the vivid spatial imaging and "fun sound" of my two Nakamichis, the Revox's "effortless excellence" is a pleasure in its own way, and the Beogram 9000's natural-yet-flattering sound is relaxing for casual listening. It's a close tie between the Naks and the Revox. The Revox has the standard IEC2 EQ, so I use it for making cassette masters. But that elusive quality of the Naks give them a slight edge for me personally, escpecially when used with an outboard dbx noise reduction. The Beogram 9000 is an excellent deck, but "The Best Deck?" When I read that assertion, I thought I was hallucinating. No, it isn't. Put a Beogram against any of the Nakamichis that have pad lifter tape mechanisms and the auto-azimuth adjustment and it will lose every time. Happy New Year to one and all -- may the great sounds be yours! -- Kermit Gray Woods & Waters/KVG Labs 16371 Lake Point Drive Bonner Springs, KS 66012 USA 816-918-5058 cellphone 913-422-0957 business http://www.woods-and-waters.com From pauro at tin.it Sat Jan 1 11:30:43 2005 From: pauro at tin.it (P. Rossi) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 11:30:43 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Adding yet another Nak References: <20050101014026.EDEFF17D42@smtp.amb.org> Message-ID: <001501c4efec$f31cae80$abd0fea9@microsoft> I have a CR7 owners manual in pdf format. Just let me know if you want it and I'll send it to you. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ti Kan" To: Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 2:40 AM Subject: [naktalk] Adding yet another Nak > Hi all, > > In addition to the excellent Dragon, a CR-7A is en-route to me and I > think it will be an wonderful companion for the Dragon. > > Like any piece of audio equipment I collect, I would love to get > the owner and service manuals (PDF format is cool). Anyone has a > copy of these for the CR-7A handy? > > Thanks in advance... > > -Ti > -- > Ti Kan > http://www.amb.org/ti > Vorsprung durch Technik > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From transplata at aol.com Sat Jan 1 00:59:14 2005 From: transplata at aol.com (transplata at aol.com) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 18:59:14 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Hi, I sent you a greeting from AOL E-Cards Message-ID: <200412312359.iBVNxEg12565@ecard-lc08b.iwebsys.aol.com> To view your greeting, choose from the options below. Click on the following link: http://www.pickup.aol.egreetings.com/view.pd?i=42460949&m=5438&rr=y&source=aole999 OR Copy and paste the above link into your web browser's "address" window. Thank you for using AOL E-Cards! From n.van.wijnen at inter.nl.net Sat Jan 1 13:50:53 2005 From: n.van.wijnen at inter.nl.net (Norman van Wijnen) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 13:50:53 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Happy new year References: <20050101014026.EDEFF17D42@smtp.amb.org> <001501c4efec$f31cae80$abd0fea9@microsoft> Message-ID: <007901c4f000$87e40370$48f66391@mach1> Hi Guys, I remember the days that i bought a Elcaset..... Wow we getting older Happy Newyear to all Regards Norman From sandorpistike at hotmail.com Sat Jan 1 18:26:41 2005 From: sandorpistike at hotmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E1ndor_Istv=E1n?=) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 18:26:41 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Happy new year References: <20050101014026.EDEFF17D42@smtp.amb.org><001501c4efec$f31cae80$abd0fea9@microsoft> <007901c4f000$87e40370$48f66391@mach1> Message-ID: Good and better days to you all, and I wish you a Happy New Year to all those participate in this wonder called Naktalk, and keep your Naks alive as long as they deserve (for sooo long!). For me, cassette media is not a dying one. Or if it is, I don't care.... I have some 500+ blank cassettes (unopened), and surely will last longer than I will ever need. Though I hope the world will be better, I can't even understand the WHY of that Tsunami-event. Just on Christmas-day... We are so vulnerable... Keep on! István ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman van Wijnen" To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 1:50 PM Subject: [naktalk] Happy new year > Hi Guys, > > I remember the days that i bought a Elcaset..... Wow we getting older > > Happy Newyear to all > Regards Norman > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From neillipes628 at hotmail.com Sat Jan 1 17:02:33 2005 From: neillipes628 at hotmail.com (neil lipes) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 11:02:33 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] List: no longer a "FAMILY" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have it's still sitting on top of my Audio Researce pre/amp. >From: >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: Re: [naktalk] List: no longer a "FAMILY" >Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 19:02:01 +0000 > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Don�t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neillipes628 at hotmail.com Sat Jan 1 17:13:01 2005 From: neillipes628 at hotmail.com (neil lipes) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 11:13:01 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] List: no longer a "FAMILY" Message-ID: Gra: Happy new year! I would love to return to the UK again, was there on my honeymoon....stayed just outside of London in a place called Paddington.....great old hotel..."The Great Western" I remember thinking that "Brits" consume tons of sweet drinks, cakes, cookies....man you people sure have a sweet tooth! On the next to the last day there I had to get a hi-fi fix, so I went into London and gawked at gear at several electronics establishments......some of the single-ended amps were beautiful! As were the then current Nakamichi models. N >From: "Nelson" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Subject: RE: [naktalk] List: no longer a "FAMILY" >Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 17:54:34 -0000 > >Wow, Neil! That must be some woman you have there, buddy, Does she have a >sister? I'm thinking of trading mine in for a newer model ... > >But watch out for those high temperatures ... 50' ... global warming ... >save energy by sharing the shower ... probably after that Sangria and >Cognac. > >I've saving energy by sleeping more and grilling my food on the heat sink >of my Sugden A21 ... it gets hot ... > >Gra' > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > Behalf Of neil lipes > > Sent: 31 December 2004 17:32 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] List: no longer a "FAMILY" > > > > > > Nelson: > > > > Getting ready to travel the mile and a half to Times Square, and > > ring in the > > new year!.. Temps here in NYC are about 50 degrees...for this > > time of year > > that....is amazing! > > > > Am taking out my wife for a lobster dinner at the top place for > > the creature > > in NYC.....I've reserved a nice ten pounder....and told the > > management the > > Sangria I want cut with Cognac...this will allow the wife to take > > advantage > > of me later this evening! > > > > Neil > > > > >From: "Nelson" > > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] List: no longer a "FAMILY" > > >Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 16:08:05 -0000 > > > > > >Of course our favorite format is dead - that's WHY we're called > > >Nakophiliacs ... hee hee! > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > > > Behalf Of neil lipes > > > > Sent: 31 December 2004 16:33 > > > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] List: no longer a "FAMILY" > > > > > > > > > > > > Stan: > > > > > > > > No format will ever die.....I still maintain three open reel > > decks which > > > > bring tremendous joy, both in listening and for the all important > > >"tweak" > > > > factor! What would life be if I were not looking for a VU Meter > > > > for an Akai > > > > M-6 recorder? > > > > > > > > Happy new year to all on the list.....life is fragile at best... > > > > > > > > Neil > > > > NYC, NY. > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > >Maintain your account here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - > > it's FREE! > > hthttp://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From neillipes628 at hotmail.com Sat Jan 1 17:38:53 2005 From: neillipes628 at hotmail.com (neil lipes) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 11:38:53 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re: List: no longer a "FAMILY In-Reply-To: <3B09FBEE-5B69-11D9-8D4F-000D93C246E2@mac.com> Message-ID: Fred: My sister friend actually left NYC to open a bagel shop up in Portland...amazing! >From: Fred Lifton >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: [naktalk] Re: List: no longer a "FAMILY >Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 12:19:10 -0800 > >Greetings Nakkers, >Well, I can't speak to the "old days" as I'm a relative new-comer (2 years >and counting), but I love this list. I've learned an enormous amount from >the experts here, who are amazingly generous with their time and display >amazing tolerance of idiots like me. I also deeply appreciate the >opportunity to talk with people all around the world. For better or worse >(I'd say worse), the US is very insular; even in a big city like Portland >it's hard, sometimes, to feel connected to the rest of the world. Naktalk >helps me feel I have that connection, through a mutual love of good >electronics and good music. > >Yeah, there's been some slander and squabbling on the list, but as someone >else already pointed out, that is how families behave. As long we remain >civil and recognize that our similarities are more important than our >differences, I'm all for a heated exchange and often some good can come of >it. Stephen did get raked over the coals, but he also had a number of >staunch defenders and received some truly heart-felt offers of help and >testimonials. And that's a good thing. > >So I think we should all be proud of our Nakaphilia and fellow >Nakaphiliacs. In today's political climate, that any group of diverse >individuals are talking to each other at all should be considered a victory >for humanity. > >On this New Year's Eve, then, I want to wish every Nakker a happy, healthy >and peaceful New Year. I especially want to send all those in Southeast >Asia my hopes that they are safe and well and my deepest sympathy for any >losses. I wish there was more I could do than send money to Oxfam. >affectionately, >Fred > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Don�t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From neillipes628 at hotmail.com Sat Jan 1 18:34:12 2005 From: neillipes628 at hotmail.com (neil lipes) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 12:34:12 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Happy new year In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello to all my Magyar friends! >From: S�ndor Istv�n >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Happy new year >Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 18:26:41 +0100 > >Good and better days to you all, >and I wish you a Happy New Year to all those participate in this wonder >called Naktalk, and keep your Naks alive as long as they deserve (for sooo >long!). > >For me, cassette media is not a dying one. Or if it is, I don't care.... I >have some 500+ blank cassettes (unopened), and surely will last longer than >I will ever need. > >Though I hope the world will be better, I can't even understand the WHY of >that Tsunami-event. Just on Christmas-day... > >We are so vulnerable... > >Keep on! >Istv�n > > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman van Wijnen" > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 1:50 PM >Subject: [naktalk] Happy new year > > >>Hi Guys, >> >>I remember the days that i bought a Elcaset..... Wow we getting older >> >>Happy Newyear to all >>Regards Norman >> >>========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >>========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >>Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >>========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Don�t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From valman13440 at yahoo.com Sat Jan 1 19:16:52 2005 From: valman13440 at yahoo.com (Keith Hugo) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 10:16:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] "Epitaxial" and "Super Avilyn" Just buzz words? Message-ID: <20050101181653.7792.qmail@web40609.mail.yahoo.com> Words like "Super Avilyn" and "Epitaxial" and "Black Magnetite" are these just brand specific buzz words,and are'nt they all just Cobalt doped ferric oxides.Is there a difference between the makeup in Cobalts and ferric's that different company's use?Is it the shape of the particles that makes one tape sound different than the other or is it something else?Pretty much in my own experience on my Nak ZX-7 and my Akai GX-8 the only differnce i can here is in the high end,TDK SA-X seems to be a little brighter in the high end as compared to XLII-S but XLII-S seems to be a bit more "Warm" sounding.What in the tape manufacturing process makes one tape warm and another tape bright.I'm just curious in the science of blank cassette manufacturing and there is no place on the web that folks can discuss blank analog media anymore with everthing digital now..Peace and Happy New Year to all and thanks for any help..Keith. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com From stan.targowski at comcast.net Sat Jan 1 20:14:39 2005 From: stan.targowski at comcast.net (Stan Targowski) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 13:14:39 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank cassette? In-Reply-To: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D0531D7DB@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Message-ID: Tom - r u sure about Sony? Sony and Philips were first with the CD, but cassette I thought was just Philips (?) As far as TDK and Maxell, I feel it was also TDK. Stan -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Siomopoulos Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 7:07 PM To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' Subject: RE: [naktalk] TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank cassette? It was actually Philips and Sony. But my guess would be TDK. Tom. -----Original Message----- From: Keith Hugo [mailto:valman13440 at yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, 30 December 2004 4:04 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank cassette? Does anyone know who came out with a blank compact cassette first,Maxell or TDK?I know TDK is a older company than Maxell but was just curious as to who introduced the first blank cassette of these two company's?Thanks for any insight..Keith. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From bhonhoff at dds.nl Sat Jan 1 21:24:57 2005 From: bhonhoff at dds.nl (bart honhoff) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 21:24:57 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank cassette? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1104611097.41d70719bea2f@webmail.dds.nl> Hi, until 1963, when Philips came along with the Compact Cassette, there were several companies in Europe as well in the US, which after the fast development of better quality consumer reel recorders, which tried to initiate small, pocketable recorders and tapes. In the US the 8-track is the most known effort. In Europe, famous brands all had their own try: Grundig (small tape in a round box, like a dictafone, with a 'pickup' reel) Telefunken (Cassette was the size of a small pocketbook, slightly larger then the Compact Cassette) Normende, BASF. The problem with all the European Initiatives was, that other companies had to pay (large) amounts of money to adapt/use these systems. Philips then introduced around 1963 the Philips Compact Cassette. Everybody was allowed to develop cassette-recorders as long as they stick to some rules: 4,75 cm/sec, 2-track, playing from left to right. There were in the beginning no exceptions allowed. (Unless Philips (re-)branded them, off course) >From the 2-track mono, the 4-track stereo was developed in 1964/1965. The first blank tapes were of course Philips. And the following brands were most likely other european brands like AGFA, BASF, which were later OEMed as Grundig, Telefunken, Greatz, Tandberg tapes. (Tandberg moved around 1980 from BASF to MAXELL for there CC-tapes) Why not Japanese brands? Well, really simple. The US market didn't pick up the cassette that quickly, since the 8-track was populair. The US market started actually after the development of higher quality cassette recorders by Japanese Brands. (The first 'Fisher' Cassette Recorder (1968) was a rebranded Nak 500 in small case. I'll put a picture of that recorder on my web shortly) The popularity in Europe started slowly and wasn't taken seriously untill Nakamichi came along and as ReVox decided to build a Cassette-Recorder as well, it was finally recognized that the cassette-recorder from 1963 (300-8000Hz) finally was developed in a high quality recording machine, which dynamics and frequency-response could match reel-taperecorders. bart BTW. I'll put a picture of the first Philips Cassette-Recorder of 1963 on the web in a few days as well. Quoting Stan Targowski : > Tom - r u sure about Sony? Sony and Philips were first with the CD, but > cassette I thought was just Philips (?) > > As far as TDK and Maxell, I feel it was also TDK. > > Stan > > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of Thomas Siomopoulos > Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 7:07 PM > To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' > Subject: RE: [naktalk] TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank > cassette? > > > It was actually Philips and Sony. But my guess would be TDK. > > Tom. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Hugo [mailto:valman13440 at yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, 30 December 2004 4:04 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank cassette? > > > Does anyone know who came out with a blank compact > cassette first,Maxell or TDK?I know TDK is a older > company than Maxell but was just curious as to who > introduced the first blank cassette of these two > company's?Thanks for any insight..Keith. > From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sat Jan 1 09:17:01 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 08:17:01 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Happy new year In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000501c4efda$451c2d40$ead5883e@oemcomputer> Neil said "Hello to all my Magyar friends!" Magyar ... are they the little fellows tat turn into Gremlins if you feed 'em after Midnight, also known as Orange Caps?? Gra' > From bhonhoff at dds.nl Sat Jan 1 22:19:40 2005 From: bhonhoff at dds.nl (bart honhoff) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 22:19:40 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Happy new year In-Reply-To: <000501c4efda$451c2d40$ead5883e@oemcomputer> References: <000501c4efda$451c2d40$ead5883e@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <1104614380.41d713ecb9c20@webmail.dds.nl> No, the guy is talking to all those people who were brave enough to fight the Russians in 1956. But were left alone by the rest of the world. szilveszterik Budapest! Quoting Nelson : > Neil said "Hello to all my Magyar friends!" > > Magyar ... are they the little fellows tat turn into Gremlins if you feed > 'em after Midnight, also known as Orange Caps?? From Mhugo at sunint.co.za Sun Jan 2 07:27:08 2005 From: Mhugo at sunint.co.za (Mark Hugo) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 09:27:08 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank cassette? Message-ID: I think that's probably right. Maxell is a subsidiary of Hitachi. Hitachi started a a range that later had equivalents within the new Maxell range (which were the same product) and then later Hitachi stopped the "Hitachi" brand altogether. Those who know the Hitachi ME metal will probably be aware that this was the same tape as the Maxell MX. Marc >>> Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au 01/01/05 03:07AM >>> It was actually Philips and Sony. But my guess would be TDK. Tom. -----Original Message----- From: Keith Hugo [mailto:valman13440 at yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, 30 December 2004 4:04 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank cassette? Does anyone know who came out with a blank compact cassette first,Maxell or TDK?I know TDK is a older company than Maxell but was just curious as to who introduced the first blank cassette of these two company's?Thanks for any insight..Keith. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. 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From sandorpistike at hotmail.com Sun Jan 2 08:55:18 2005 From: sandorpistike at hotmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E1ndor_Istv=E1n?=) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 08:55:18 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Happy new year References: <000501c4efda$451c2d40$ead5883e@oemcomputer> <1104614380.41d713ecb9c20@webmail.dds.nl> Message-ID: Surely neither (nor Gremlins nor fighters). My mother was born in just 1956, so to me this historical event is not that bitter, than to the elder generation. Damn it, Hungary is still counted as a forgotten slave-country of the Big Russian Bear??? I am not angry with this, but really being curious to know if it is... Sorry for being off-topic. It is strange for me that noone from the former "communist" countries are here... am I wrong? If yes, please let me know... :-) Kind regards, István ----- Original Message ----- From: "bart honhoff" To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 10:19 PM Subject: RE: [naktalk] Happy new year > No, the guy is talking to all those people who were brave enough to fight > the > Russians in 1956. But were left alone by the rest of the world. > > szilveszterik Budapest! > > > Quoting Nelson : > >> Neil said "Hello to all my Magyar friends!" >> >> Magyar ... are they the little fellows tat turn into Gremlins if you feed >> 'em after Midnight, also known as Orange Caps?? > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From george.valkov at gmail.com Sun Jan 2 09:49:39 2005 From: george.valkov at gmail.com (george valkov) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 08:49:39 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Happy new year - Eastern Europeans anyone ? In-Reply-To: References: <000501c4efda$451c2d40$ead5883e@oemcomputer> <1104614380.41d713ecb9c20@webmail.dds.nl> Message-ID: <518b7b1050102004949c7bcce@mail.gmail.com> No Istvan, you are not alone here. I am Bulgarian and we also had a few friends from Russia (the Niks, Vladimir?)and the Ukraine (Misha?) - actually what happened with you guys, are you still out there ? George On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 08:55:18 +0100, Sándor István wrote: > Surely neither (nor Gremlins nor fighters). > My mother was born in just 1956, so to me this historical event is not that > bitter, than to the elder generation. > > Damn it, Hungary is still counted as a forgotten slave-country of the Big > Russian Bear??? > > I am not angry with this, but really being curious to know if it is... > Sorry for being off-topic. It is strange for me that noone from the former > "communist" countries are here... am I wrong? If yes, please let me know... > :-) > > Kind regards, > István > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bart honhoff" > To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 10:19 PM > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Happy new year > > > No, the guy is talking to all those people who were brave enough to fight > > the > > Russians in 1956. But were left alone by the rest of the world. > > > > szilveszterik Budapest! > > > > > > Quoting Nelson : > > > >> Neil said "Hello to all my Magyar friends!" > >> > >> Magyar ... are they the little fellows tat turn into Gremlins if you feed > >> 'em after Midnight, also known as Orange Caps?? > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From Mhugo at sunint.co.za Sun Jan 2 08:53:04 2005 From: Mhugo at sunint.co.za (Mark Hugo) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 10:53:04 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] "Epitaxial" and "Super Avilyn" Just buzz words? Message-ID: Hi Keith, The majority of formulae have similarities, from a simplistic point of view. However, there are a tremendous variation in techniques, doping by immersion and vapour depositing being but two. Cobalt is the commonest dope but there is significant chemical altering bought into to play, in order to achieve a specific result. Hitachi-Maxell used a complex ionisation process to produce a low-mass particle that would have high magnetic retention/low de-gauss voltage requirements. Taiyo Yuden (That's) tried very hard to replicate Hitachi's methods. Particles size, shapes and treatments vary greatly. TDK, when developing the early type IIs that would become "SA" sought to mimic the low noise floor of the pure, natural CrO2 types that had just entered the market. But they were under pressure (from the Japanese Dept of Trade and Industry) to use particles that were high in retentivity and low in coercivity - as low as possible to the 280 oersted area without affecting MOL too badly. Their partlicle/dope combo became "avylin". BASF and Scotch did not use cobalt or any alteration of it till '94 or so. BASF especially were the flag carriers for genuine chromium dioxide coatings which had an unmistakable sound and needed sympathetic handling when recording. Not to mention that they also needed higher head voltages to magnetise and erase. Just to keep us on our toes, the better type 1s (AD, AR, UD1 etc) use doping fomulae too. Most magnetic tape resources on the net over-simplify the classification of tape. In fairness to them though, the IEC tried for years to get manufacturers to conform to standards that they set and reset on a regular basis. BASF were frequently very close to the "standards". But as usual, and as with any regualtory authority, private enterprise's main concern was getting an edge on the competition. And this meant pitching some kind of technical/performance advantage at the consumer. They did this by reworking the formulas (as can be seen year after year in the changes in cassette measured performances). Simply put, if it measures differently, it'll sound different. Comprehensive calibration facilities (such as you have on decks like the GX-8 and the ZX-7) will go quite some way to nullifying (or "smoothing out") the characteristics that different tapes exhibit. Personally, I like the differences - that's what makes magnetic recording far more rewarding than other methods. And finally, if you find a place on the web to discuss blank tape media - let me know. But you can talk about it as much as you like here (perhaps on "audiotalk"). After all, a Nak is not up to much without tape!! Cheers, Marc >>> valman13440 at yahoo.com 01/01/05 08:16PM >>> Words like "Super Avilyn" and "Epitaxial" and "Black Magnetite" are these just brand specific buzz words,and are'nt they all just Cobalt doped ferric oxides.Is there a difference between the makeup in Cobalts and ferric's that different company's use?Is it the shape of the particles that makes one tape sound different than the other or is it something else?Pretty much in my own experience on my Nak ZX-7 and my Akai GX-8 the only differnce i can here is in the high end,TDK SA-X seems to be a little brighter in the high end as compared to XLII-S but XLII-S seems to be a bit more "Warm" sounding.What in the tape manufacturing process makes one tape warm and another tape bright.I'm just curious in the science of blank cassette manufacturing and there is no place on the web that folks can discuss blank analog media anymore with everthing digital now..Peace and Happy New Year to all and thanks for any help..Keith. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient/s. If you are not the intended recipient, you cannot use, copy, distribute, disclose or retain the email or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying to this message and to permanently delete it and all attachments from your computer. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present in this email and the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. From Mhugo at sunint.co.za Sun Jan 2 08:58:40 2005 From: Mhugo at sunint.co.za (Mark Hugo) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 10:58:40 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] Happy new year Message-ID: Hi Istvan, PLease tell me about your blank cassette collection. What they are, where and when you got them etc. I have a quite a nice variety now. I know Mr Beus has a glorius stock of tapes - Maxell MX-S, Maxell XLII-S, TDK MA-XG and MA-EX. Cheers, Marc >>> sandorpistike at hotmail.com 01/02/05 09:55AM >>> Surely neither (nor Gremlins nor fighters). My mother was born in just 1956, so to me this historical event is not that bitter, than to the elder generation. Damn it, Hungary is still counted as a forgotten slave-country of the Big Russian Bear??? I am not angry with this, but really being curious to know if it is... Sorry for being off-topic. It is strange for me that noone from the former "communist" countries are here... am I wrong? If yes, please let me know... :-) Kind regards, István ----- Original Message ----- From: "bart honhoff" To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 10:19 PM Subject: RE: [naktalk] Happy new year > No, the guy is talking to all those people who were brave enough to fight > the > Russians in 1956. But were left alone by the rest of the world. > > szilveszterik Budapest! > > > Quoting Nelson : > >> Neil said "Hello to all my Magyar friends!" >> >> Magyar ... are they the little fellows tat turn into Gremlins if you feed >> 'em after Midnight, also known as Orange Caps?? > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. 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From neillipes628 at hotmail.com Sat Jan 1 23:51:07 2005 From: neillipes628 at hotmail.com (neil lipes) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 17:51:07 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Happy new year In-Reply-To: <1104614380.41d713ecb9c20@webmail.dds.nl> Message-ID: They put up a hell of a fight...........but the Soviets just came in and well you know the rest! >From: bart honhoff >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Happy new year >Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 22:19:40 +0100 > >No, the guy is talking to all those people who were brave enough to fight >the >Russians in 1956. But were left alone by the rest of the world. > >szilveszterik Budapest! > > >Quoting Nelson : > > > Neil said "Hello to all my Magyar friends!" > > > > Magyar ... are they the little fellows tat turn into Gremlins if you >feed > > 'em after Midnight, also known as Orange Caps?? > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From cmm100200 at yahoo.co.uk Sun Jan 2 13:03:51 2005 From: cmm100200 at yahoo.co.uk (Colin Marsh) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 12:03:51 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? Message-ID: If my memory serves me correctly, Phillips(Europe) designed and introduced the Compact Cassette (as an audio format NOT as a dictation medium!!) way before their collaborations with the Sony Corp! Around the early 1960's I think? The first "Chrome" formulations where by BASF and first retailed in Europe together with Dolby "B" in the early 70's. These tapes, combined with mainstream upmarket machines from the likes of Teac, Tandburg Neal and Akai started the "Hi Fi" cassette format ball rolling big time (thank God! or we could have ended up with Nak.and ReVox 8 tracks! yuk!). Nakamichi was there, but boy you had to be well endowed (Cash wise that is!) to go that way! I went with the Akai.GXC65D, this machine was the first machine to turn the tape Mechanincally to access the second side ( what a party trick! and the reason Nakamichi never claimed to have invented the auto-reverse mech!) The Akai also had Dolby "B", could take the new "Chrome" tapes, and boasted a "GXC" (Glass crystal ferrite) Head with a lifelong warrantee. The BASF chrome tapes where all 120s and although very expensive (and very abrasive!!) gave amazing results! The housings and mechs where claimed to be a bit special. I have just found some I recorded earlier (1974!) and dug out the Akai tape deck from the storeroom. The results are still very good (if you ignore the dropout and cross talk) I have about 30 of these tapes and not one ever snagged or stretched. If my memory serves me correctly, the abrasiveness was a big problem with "softer" heads than the Akai's. The Germans ruled the roost in Europe for Chrome tapes, the other manufacturers just used BASF tapes "Badge Engineered", I have some of these as well, The Japanese "high pos" IEC11 / Type11 tapes came along later in the form of Maxell and TDK, I never had much success with them, I was used to a 120 minute cassette by then! and whenever I tried Jap 120 tapes they stretched or broke!. so I stayed with the German formulations for a long time untill they started using a non chrome IEC11 and the quality dropped!. I have never recorded or played one of these tapes on a Nak. and don't intend to! ( the abrasive thing) so have no idea how they would perform today. I ,being new to this forum was quite amazed by the extraordinary postings that have appeared over the last week! you know, the ones dealing with the Ebay sale of the "Professional" Nak, the "Family" ones and the Trigger happy Americans" ones. Good God! We are in the throws of a natural disaster of epic proportions, and a so called "non-war" which is turning into some kind of West Vs the Moslems crusade! lead by El Supremo Bush and His sidekick Blair! who together are out on some world domination thingie! As to your excuses that purport all families act this way, Mine doesn't! and I am sure this is the case with many others, Possibly the "average" family is now so dysfunctional that mine is in the minority? I really hope not!! Please tell me that this is not the norm for Naktalk? In a "reel to reel" Yahoo forum not to long ago I witnessed a month of thread domination by members sh-t throwing! nowt to do with reel to reel! That caused me to loose interest big time!! Hopefully you have all got your gripes off your chests and this forum can get back to talking Nakamichi! Oh, thanks for the advice on my ZX7. it is going for repair to B & W this week. Lets all hope for a good 2005 Colin Marsh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sun Jan 2 00:52:50 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 23:52:50 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Happy new year In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002c01c4f05d$005df980$ead5883e@oemcomputer> There are, or were, a few Russians in this club. Not sure if they are still members because they've been rather quiet for some time. And there is George from Bulgaria. Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of Sándor István > Sent: 02 January 2005 07:55 > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Happy new year > > > Surely neither (nor Gremlins nor fighters). > My mother was born in just 1956, so to me this historical event > is not that > bitter, than to the elder generation. > > Damn it, Hungary is still counted as a forgotten slave-country of the Big > Russian Bear??? > > I am not angry with this, but really being curious to know if it is... > Sorry for being off-topic. It is strange for me that noone from > the former > "communist" countries are here... am I wrong? If yes, please let > me know... > :-) > > Kind regards, > István > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bart honhoff" > To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 10:19 PM > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Happy new year > > > > No, the guy is talking to all those people who were brave > enough to fight > > the > > Russians in 1956. But were left alone by the rest of the world. > > > > szilveszterik Budapest! > > > > > > Quoting Nelson : > > > >> Neil said "Hello to all my Magyar friends!" > >> > >> Magyar ... are they the little fellows tat turn into Gremlins > if you feed > >> 'em after Midnight, also known as Orange Caps?? > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sun Jan 2 01:06:55 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 00:06:55 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003201c4f05e$f81479a0$ead5883e@oemcomputer> Colin said: "As to your excuses that purport all families act this way, Mine doesn't! " In that case, will you adopt me, please? Not enough to live in a dysfunctional family, I work in a DWE (dysfunctional work environment). So, please give me a job, too. And I haven't even got a social worker or "shrink", either, damn it!! But I talk to my Nak ZX-9 ... it answers me, too, you know .... (sings) "lah, lah, lah, lah ..." Where's my medication? I've forgotten it again .... Grinham -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Colin Marsh Sent: 02 January 2005 12:04 To: naktalk Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? If my memory serves me correctly, Phillips(Europe) designed and introduced the Compact Cassette (as an audio format NOT as a dictation medium!!) way before their collaborations with the Sony Corp! Around the early 1960's I think? The first "Chrome" formulations where by BASF and first retailed in Europe together with Dolby "B" in the early 70's. These tapes, combined with mainstream upmarket machines from the likes of Teac, Tandburg Neal and Akai started the "Hi Fi" cassette format ball rolling big time (thank God! or we could have ended up with Nak.and ReVox 8 tracks! yuk!). Nakamichi was there, but boy you had to be well endowed (Cash wise that is!) to go that way! I went with the Akai.GXC65D, this machine was the first machine to turn the tape Mechanincally to access the second side ( what a party trick! and the reason Nakamichi never claimed to have invented the auto-reverse mech!) The Akai also had Dolby "B", could take the new "Chrome" tapes, and boasted a "GXC" (Glass crystal ferrite) Head with a lifelong warrantee. The BASF chrome tapes where all 120s and although very expensive (and very abrasive!!) gave amazing results! The housings and mechs where claimed to be a bit special. I have just found some I recorded earlier (1974!) and dug out the Akai tape deck from the storeroom. The results are still very good (if you ignore the dropout and cross talk) I have about 30 of these tapes and not one ever snagged or stretched. If my memory serves me correctly, the abrasiveness was a big problem with "softer" heads than the Akai's. The Germans ruled the roost in Europe for Chrome tapes, the other manufacturers just used BASF tapes "Badge Engineered", I have some of these as well, The Japanese "high pos" IEC11 / Type11 tapes came along later in the form of Maxell and TDK, I never had much success with them, I was used to a 120 minute cassette by then! and whenever I tried Jap 120 tapes they stretched or broke!. so I stayed with the German formulations for a long time untill they started using a non chrome IEC11 and the quality dropped!. I have never recorded or played one of these tapes on a Nak. and don't intend to! ( the abrasive thing) so have no idea how they would perform today. I ,being new to this forum was quite amazed by the extraordinary postings that have appeared over the last week! you know, the ones dealing with the Ebay sale of the "Professional" Nak, the "Family" ones and the Trigger happy Americans" ones. Good God! We are in the throws of a natural disaster of epic proportions, and a so called "non-war" which is turning into some kind of West Vs the Moslems crusade! lead by El Supremo Bush and His sidekick Blair! who together are out on some world domination thingie! As to your excuses that purport all families act this way, Mine doesn't! and I am sure this is the case with many others, Possibly the "average" family is now so dysfunctional that mine is in the minority? I really hope not!! Please tell me that this is not the norm for Naktalk? In a "reel to reel" Yahoo forum not to long ago I witnessed a month of thread domination by members sh-t throwing! nowt to do with reel to reel! That caused me to loose interest big time!! Hopefully you have all got your gripes off your chests and this forum can get back to talking Nakamichi! Oh, thanks for the advice on my ZX7. it is going for repair to B & W this week. Lets all hope for a good 2005 Colin Marsh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bg3009 at yahoo.com Sun Jan 2 14:36:24 2005 From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 05:36:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050102133624.43133.qmail@web41404.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Colin, Some of us here, including myself are from that forum. I saw it all. But there are some shoddy characters there who do spoil the show from time to time. But there are the better guys who, besides heping us, are great people, and good friends. They give us another reason, besides the reels themselves to be in the list. So lets not leave the show halfway because of these. Even here in naktalk, as in everyother list, there is a mix. With so much to learn about both the machines and people, I would take it as a learning opportunity. God Bless Bala --- Colin Marsh wrote: > If my memory serves me correctly, Phillips(Europe) > designed and introduced > the Compact Cassette (as an audio format NOT as a > dictation medium!!) way > before their collaborations with the Sony Corp! > Around the early 1960's I > think? The first "Chrome" formulations where by > BASF and first retailed in > Europe together with Dolby "B" in the early 70's. > These tapes, combined > with mainstream upmarket machines from the likes of > Teac, Tandburg Neal and > Akai started the "Hi Fi" cassette format ball > rolling big time (thank God! > or we could have ended up with Nak.and ReVox 8 > tracks! yuk!). Nakamichi > was there, but boy you had to be well endowed (Cash > wise that is!) to go > that way! I went with the Akai.GXC65D, this > machine was the first machine > to turn the tape Mechanincally to access the second > side ( what a party > trick! and the reason Nakamichi never claimed to > have invented the > auto-reverse mech!) The Akai also had Dolby "B", > could take the new > "Chrome" tapes, and boasted a "GXC" (Glass crystal > ferrite) Head with a > lifelong warrantee. The BASF chrome tapes where all > 120s and although very > expensive (and very abrasive!!) gave amazing > results! The housings and > mechs where claimed to be a bit special. I have > just found some I recorded > earlier (1974!) and dug out the Akai tape deck from > the storeroom. The > results are still very good (if you ignore the > dropout and cross talk) I > have about 30 of these tapes and not one ever > snagged or stretched. If my > memory serves me correctly, the abrasiveness was a > big problem with "softer" > heads than the Akai's. The Germans ruled the roost > in Europe for Chrome > tapes, the other manufacturers just used BASF tapes > "Badge Engineered", I > have some of these as well, The Japanese "high pos" > IEC11 / Type11 tapes > came along later in the form of Maxell and TDK, I > never had much success > with them, I was used to a 120 minute cassette by > then! and whenever I > tried Jap 120 tapes they stretched or broke!. so I > stayed with the German > formulations for a long time untill they started > using a non chrome IEC11 > and the quality dropped!. I have never recorded or > played one of these > tapes on a Nak. and don't intend to! ( the abrasive > thing) so have no idea > how they would perform today. > I ,being new to this forum was quite amazed by the > extraordinary postings > that have appeared over the last week! you know, the > ones dealing with the > Ebay sale of the "Professional" Nak, the "Family" > ones and the Trigger happy > Americans" ones. Good God! We are in the throws > of a natural disaster of > epic proportions, and a so called "non-war" which > is turning into some kind > of West Vs the Moslems crusade! lead by El Supremo > Bush and His sidekick > Blair! who together are out on some world domination > thingie! As to your > excuses that purport all families act this way, > Mine doesn't! and I am > sure this is the case with many others, Possibly > the "average" family is > now so dysfunctional that mine is in the minority? > I really hope not!! > Please tell me that this is not the norm for > Naktalk? In a "reel to reel" > Yahoo forum not to long ago I witnessed a month of > thread domination by > members sh-t throwing! nowt to do with reel to > reel! That caused me to > loose interest big time!! Hopefully you have all > got your gripes off your > chests and this forum can get back to talking > Nakamichi! Oh, thanks for > the advice on my ZX7. it is going for repair to B & > W this week. > > Lets all hope for a good 2005 > > Colin Marsh > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! > http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com From alexcozac at hotmail.com Sun Jan 2 14:39:43 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 15:39:43 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] "Epitaxial" and "Super Avilyn" Just buzz words? References: Message-ID: Hi Mark! Now Fuji, remain here in Israel, the only cassette that I can obtain regularly, and have the "Double Coating" layer...it's Black instead dark brown! For "A DOLLAR" each Z=2, 90 minutes...it's OK for my needs!!! Happy Listening to all of you! ALEX! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Hugo" To: ; Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] "Epitaxial" and "Super Avilyn" Just buzz words? > Hi Keith, > > The majority of formulae have similarities, from a simplistic point of > view. However, there are a tremendous variation in techniques, doping > by immersion and vapour depositing being but two. Cobalt is the > commonest dope but there is significant chemical altering bought into to > play, in order to achieve a specific result. Hitachi-Maxell used a > complex ionisation process to produce a low-mass particle that would > have high magnetic retention/low de-gauss voltage requirements. Taiyo > Yuden (That's) tried very hard to replicate Hitachi's methods. > Particles size, shapes and treatments vary greatly. > > TDK, when developing the early type IIs that would become "SA" sought > to mimic the low noise floor of the pure, natural CrO2 types that had > just entered the market. But they were under pressure (from the > Japanese Dept of Trade and Industry) to use particles that were high in > retentivity and low in coercivity - as low as possible to the 280 > oersted area without affecting MOL too badly. Their partlicle/dope combo > became "avylin". > > BASF and Scotch did not use cobalt or any alteration of it till '94 or > so. BASF especially were the flag carriers for genuine chromium dioxide > coatings which had an unmistakable sound and needed sympathetic handling > when recording. Not to mention that they also needed higher head > voltages to magnetise and erase. > > Just to keep us on our toes, the better type 1s (AD, AR, UD1 etc) use > doping fomulae too. > > Most magnetic tape resources on the net over-simplify the > classification of tape. In fairness to them though, the IEC tried for > years to get manufacturers to conform to standards that they set and > reset on a regular basis. BASF were frequently very close to the > "standards". But as usual, and as with any regualtory authority, > private enterprise's main concern was getting an edge on the > competition. And this meant pitching some kind of technical/performance > advantage at the consumer. They did this by reworking the formulas (as > can be seen year after year in the changes in cassette measured > performances). Simply put, if it measures differently, it'll sound > different. > > Comprehensive calibration facilities (such as you have on decks like > the GX-8 and the ZX-7) will go quite some way to nullifying (or > "smoothing out") the characteristics that different tapes exhibit. > Personally, I like the differences - that's what makes magnetic > recording far more rewarding than other methods. > > And finally, if you find a place on the web to discuss blank tape media > - let me know. But you can talk about it as much as you like here > (perhaps on "audiotalk"). After all, a Nak is not up to much without > tape!! > > Cheers, > > Marc > > > >>>> valman13440 at yahoo.com 01/01/05 08:16PM >>> > Words like "Super Avilyn" and "Epitaxial" and "Black > Magnetite" are these just brand specific buzz > words,and are'nt they all just Cobalt doped ferric > oxides.Is there a difference between the makeup in > Cobalts and ferric's that different company's use?Is > it the shape of the particles that makes one tape > sound different than the other or is it something > else?Pretty much in my own experience on my Nak ZX-7 > and my Akai GX-8 the only differnce i can here is in > the high end,TDK SA-X seems to be a little brighter in > the high end as compared to XLII-S but XLII-S seems to > be a bit more "Warm" sounding.What in the tape > manufacturing process makes one tape warm and another > tape bright.I'm just curious in the science of blank > cassette manufacturing and there is no place on the > web that folks can discuss blank analog media anymore > with everthing digital now..Peace and Happy New Year > to all and thanks for any help..Keith. > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! > http://my.yahoo.com > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject > to legal privilege. 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Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 10:42:12 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? Message-ID: <20161-41D82464-38@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net> Hi Colin,let me unofficially welcome you to the naktalk.this post is more of a direct answer to you on your mention of some of the family issues on the Naktalk.I ask anyone who is sick of this by now to do me a favour and PLease allow this one last post or skip to the next one now.There,now..I am the one with the disfunctional famlty,and i would certainly hope that your family is not as screwed up as mine.Of course,all familys have their problems,that goes withot saying,and there is no such thing as the "ozzie and harriet" type of ethnically cleansed white suburban bliss -and their never was.Having said that,let me continue. I come from a upper middle class American family .All of my parents friends and acquantances have some symptom of the american middle class malaise(industrial disease?),even though it may not have manifested itself in verbal and and physical abuse to the extent that it did in my beloved family..One friend,an Eingenieer,has a son that has been in and out of prison and another,a Dentist,has a son who is a succesful surgeon,but has a wife that will not let him visit his parents.Many have alcholics in their familys ,others have disease from unhealthy and/or glottonous lifestyles,and I could go on and on,but hopefully you see what I mean.My point is,I think,that when the body itself is diseased,as you rightly pointed out in your brief and to the point indictment of Bush/Blair &CO.,then we,as part of that body simply cant live autoimmune,but must exhibit symptoms of this disease. I dont know about the other classes,sometimes i think the working class lives in a kind of blissfull ignorance,although i can say for certain that from my obsevation,that their problems are as numerous,or even worse. George,I hate to say, was ore correct than not in assuming an American trait was to go off "half cocked".I see this in at least about 53 percent of americans. Regarding your political accusations,personally,Im not so sure i am so anti-imperalist -i can understand evryone else being Pissed though-petrol was recently 1.65 a gallon here in Texas.At that price every redneck who wants to drive around in Hummers,moterhomes,S.U.V's and other gass guzzlers can do so while the rest of the world pays so very dearly for our "Blameless" priveledge.Look if bush- a dirty marauding murederer-wants to kill saddam-another dirty marauding murderer and take his oil-well idont know,but just dont lie about the reasion! Anyway, there are enoughjack booted thugs out there who seem to want the work!I'm sorry to be so srcastic,and I'm Sorry to have offeneded any conservatives-NO IM NOT. Ok- Please ,Please allow me this one post everbody,by way of a reply to the new guy,since im the one that inferred all american familys were dysfunctional-i just hope its a case of all birds flocking together " in my particular instance,and that I am out of touch with reality(as if i wasnt!).Again i sincerely plead to allow this one post to go unpunished and "shine it on " so to speak and i know this is a NAk. Line and henceforth i will not clutter the space .if this is too off the wall and intolerable,i will get off for an extended period,whatever is deemed appropriate. thank you very much, gerald From Mhugo at sunint.co.za Sun Jan 2 18:08:28 2005 From: Mhugo at sunint.co.za (Mark Hugo) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 20:08:28 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, etc. Welcome Colin!! Message-ID: Brilliant. Gerald, don't disappear. This twaddle isn't serious enough. If you disappear, I'm getting in my hummer, oh alright, my Fiat Uno and coming to find you. And a big welcome to Colin!! Colin, I know that Phillips and Sony worked on compact deic together, but I was always under the impression that Philloips did cassette on their own. But my history is a bit rusty, so you have piqued my interest in this again. By the by, are you in the UK - I see you're having your deck service by B+W. Cheers, Marc >>> jerryjg at webtv.net 01/02/05 06:42PM >>> Hi Colin,let me unofficially welcome you to the naktalk.this post is more of a direct answer to you on your mention of some of the family issues on the Naktalk.I ask anyone who is sick of this by now to do me a favour and PLease allow this one last post or skip to the next one now.There,now..I am the one with the disfunctional famlty,and i would certainly hope that your family is not as screwed up as mine.Of course,all familys have their problems,that goes withot saying,and there is no such thing as the "ozzie and harriet" type of ethnically cleansed white suburban bliss -and their never was.Having said that,let me continue. I come from a upper middle class American family .All of my parents friends and acquantances have some symptom of the american middle class malaise(industrial disease?),even though it may not have manifested itself in verbal and and physical abuse to the extent that it did in my beloved family..One friend,an Eingenieer,has a son that has been in and out of prison and another,a Dentist,has a son who is a succesful surgeon,but has a wife that will not let him visit his parents.Many have alcholics in their familys ,others have disease from unhealthy and/or glottonous lifestyles,and I could go on and on,but hopefully you see what I mean.My point is,I think,that when the body itself is diseased,as you rightly pointed out in your brief and to the point indictment of Bush/Blair &CO.,then we,as part of that body simply cant live autoimmune,but must exhibit symptoms of this disease. I dont know about the other classes,sometimes i think the working class lives in a kind of blissfull ignorance,although i can say for certain that from my obsevation,that their problems are as numerous,or even worse. George,I hate to say, was ore correct than not in assuming an American trait was to go off "half cocked".I see this in at least about 53 percent of americans. Regarding your political accusations,personally,Im not so sure i am so anti-imperalist -i can understand evryone else being Pissed though-petrol was recently 1.65 a gallon here in Texas.At that price every redneck who wants to drive around in Hummers,moterhomes,S.U.V's and other gass guzzlers can do so while the rest of the world pays so very dearly for our "Blameless" priveledge.Look if bush- a dirty marauding murederer-wants to kill saddam-another dirty marauding murderer and take his oil-well idont know,but just dont lie about the reasion! Anyway, there are enoughjack booted thugs out there who seem to want the work!I'm sorry to be so srcastic,and I'm Sorry to have offeneded any conservatives-NO IM NOT. Ok- Please ,Please allow me this one post everbody,by way of a reply to the new guy,since im the one that inferred all american familys were dysfunctional-i just hope its a case of all birds flocking together " in my particular instance,and that I am out of touch with reality(as if i wasnt!).Again i sincerely plead to allow this one post to go unpunished and "shine it on " so to speak and i know this is a NAk. Line and henceforth i will not clutter the space .if this is too off the wall and intolerable,i will get off for an extended period,whatever is deemed appropriate. thank you very much, gerald ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient/s. If you are not the intended recipient, you cannot use, copy, distribute, disclose or retain the email or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying to this message and to permanently delete it and all attachments from your computer. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present in this email and the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. From stan.targowski at comcast.net Sun Jan 2 17:57:38 2005 From: stan.targowski at comcast.net (Stan Targowski) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 10:57:38 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Happy new year - Eastern Europeans anyone ? In-Reply-To: <518b7b1050102004949c7bcce@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I was born and raised in Warsaw, Poland. This is where my passion for recording media started, including learning about the first Nakamichi tape decks, including 1000ZXL, 58x series, etc. I remember, in say 1980, $20 would pay for food for family of 3 for a month, and TDK D-90 was $1.60. We used to have stores, "Pewex", where you could purchase merchandise with western currencies. A big event for me was to get an Agfa Metal tape, $6.40 for a C-90, or Fuji FR-metal for same. Tape decks of the time, that my friends and I could put our hands on, where low-end Japanese models, Technics RS-M5/8, Sony TCK-5, JVC KD-A11 ... Technics RS-M260 with 3 heads was a dream, not to mention JVC KD-A8 or KD-A77. Stan -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of george valkov Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 2:50 AM To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Happy new year - Eastern Europeans anyone ? No Istvan, you are not alone here. I am Bulgarian and we also had a few friends from Russia (the Niks, Vladimir?)and the Ukraine (Misha?) - actually what happened with you guys, are you still out there ? George On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 08:55:18 +0100, Sándor István wrote: > Surely neither (nor Gremlins nor fighters). > My mother was born in just 1956, so to me this historical event is not that > bitter, than to the elder generation. > > Damn it, Hungary is still counted as a forgotten slave-country of the Big > Russian Bear??? > > I am not angry with this, but really being curious to know if it is... > Sorry for being off-topic. It is strange for me that noone from the former > "communist" countries are here... am I wrong? If yes, please let me know... > :-) > > Kind regards, > István > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bart honhoff" > To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 10:19 PM > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Happy new year > > > No, the guy is talking to all those people who were brave enough to fight > > the > > Russians in 1956. But were left alone by the rest of the world. > > > > szilveszterik Budapest! > > > > > > Quoting Nelson : > > > >> Neil said "Hello to all my Magyar friends!" > >> > >> Magyar ... are they the little fellows tat turn into Gremlins if you feed > >> 'em after Midnight, also known as Orange Caps?? > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From greynolds at newsguy.com Sun Jan 2 19:10:52 2005 From: greynolds at newsguy.com (greynolds at newsguy.com) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 13:10:52 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? References: <20161-41D82464-38@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <000601c4f0f6$65937480$c801a8c0@geoffwin2k> Am I still on the NakTalk list, or have I been switched to a list about dysfunctional families and "politics"? I'm not quite sure how many different groups you attempted to offend with your post, but it was certainly more than just conservative rednecks who drive SUV's (or is that anyone who drives a SUV is a conservative redneck, or anyone who is a redneck is a conservative who drives a SUV?). -- Geoffrey Reynolds http://www.crestron.geoff-reynolds.net From: "Gerald G." > Hi Colin,let me unofficially welcome you to the naktalk.this post is > more of a direct answer to you on your mention of some of the family > issues on the Naktalk.I ask anyone who is sick of this by now to do me a > favour and PLease allow this one last post or skip to the next one > now.There,now..I am the one with the disfunctional famlty,and i would > certainly hope that your family is not as screwed up as mine.Of > course,all familys have their problems,that goes withot saying,and there > is no such thing as the "ozzie and harriet" type of ethnically cleansed > white suburban bliss -and their never was.Having said that,let me > continue. I come from a upper middle class American family .All of my > parents friends and acquantances have some symptom of the american > middle class malaise(industrial disease?),even though it may not have > manifested itself in verbal and and physical abuse to the extent that it > did in my beloved family..One friend,an Eingenieer,has a son that has > been in and out of prison and another,a Dentist,has a son who is a > succesful surgeon,but has a wife that will not let him visit his > parents.Many have alcholics in their familys ,others have disease from > unhealthy and/or glottonous lifestyles,and I could go on and on,but > hopefully you see what I mean.My point is,I think,that when the body > itself is diseased,as you rightly pointed out in your brief and to the > point indictment of Bush/Blair &CO.,then we,as part of that body simply > cant live autoimmune,but must exhibit symptoms of this disease. I dont > know about the other classes,sometimes i think the working class lives > in a kind of blissfull ignorance,although i can say for certain that > from my obsevation,that their problems are as numerous,or even worse. > George,I hate to say, was ore correct than not in assuming an American > trait was to go off "half cocked".I see this in at least about 53 > percent of americans. Regarding your political > accusations,personally,Im not so sure i am so anti-imperalist -i can > understand evryone else being Pissed though-petrol was recently 1.65 a > gallon here in Texas.At that price every redneck who wants to drive > around in Hummers,moterhomes,S.U.V's and other gass guzzlers can do so > while the rest of the world pays so very dearly for our "Blameless" > priveledge.Look if bush- a dirty marauding murederer-wants to kill > saddam-another dirty marauding murderer and take his oil-well idont > know,but just dont lie about the reasion! Anyway, there are enoughjack > booted thugs out there who seem to want the work!I'm sorry to be so > srcastic,and I'm Sorry to have offeneded any conservatives-NO IM NOT. > Ok- Please ,Please allow me this one post everbody,by way of a reply > to the new guy,since im the one that inferred all american familys were > dysfunctional-i just hope its a case of all birds flocking together " in > my particular instance,and that I am out of touch with reality(as if i > wasnt!).Again i sincerely plead to allow this one post to go unpunished > and "shine it on " so to speak and i know this is a NAk. Line and > henceforth i will not clutter the space .if this is too off the wall and > intolerable,i will get off for an extended period,whatever is deemed > appropriate. > > thank you very much, > gerald From bg3009 at yahoo.com Sun Jan 2 19:35:47 2005 From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 10:35:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, etc. Welcome Colin!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050102183547.97192.qmail@web41408.mail.yahoo.com> I think Sony was more interested in developing reel decks. Their entry into cassettes was done more thru Aiwa then their own. Talking about Aiwa, does anyone have info on their F990 and XK009 decks? I have both of these to fix. Bala --- Mark Hugo wrote: > Brilliant. Gerald, don't disappear. This twaddle > isn't serious enough. > If you disappear, I'm getting in my hummer, oh > alright, my Fiat Uno and > coming to find you. > > And a big welcome to Colin!! Colin, I know that > Phillips and Sony > worked on compact deic together, but I was always > under the impression > that Philloips did cassette on their own. But my > history is a bit > rusty, so you have piqued my interest in this again. > > By the by, are you in the UK - I see you're having > your deck service by > B+W. > > Cheers, > > Marc > > >>> jerryjg at webtv.net 01/02/05 06:42PM >>> > Hi Colin,let me unofficially welcome you to the > naktalk.this post is > more of a direct answer to you on your mention of > some of the family > issues on the Naktalk.I ask anyone who is sick of > this by now to do me > a > favour and PLease allow this one last post or skip > to the next one > now.There,now..I am the one with the disfunctional > famlty,and i would > certainly hope that your family is not as screwed up > as mine.Of > course,all familys have their problems,that goes > withot saying,and > there > is no such thing as the "ozzie and harriet" type of > ethnically > cleansed > white suburban bliss -and their never was.Having > said that,let me > continue. I come from a upper middle class American > family .All of my > parents friends and acquantances have some symptom > of the american > middle class malaise(industrial disease?),even > though it may not have > manifested itself in verbal and and physical abuse > to the extent that > it > did in my beloved family..One friend,an > Eingenieer,has a son that has > been in and out of prison and another,a Dentist,has > a son who is a > succesful surgeon,but has a wife that will not let > him visit his > parents.Many have alcholics in their familys ,others > have disease from > unhealthy and/or glottonous lifestyles,and I could > go on and on,but > hopefully you see what I mean.My point is,I > think,that when the body > itself is diseased,as you rightly pointed out in > your brief and to the > point indictment of Bush/Blair &CO.,then we,as part > of that body > simply > cant live autoimmune,but must exhibit symptoms of > this disease. I dont > know about the other classes,sometimes i think the > working class lives > in a kind of blissfull ignorance,although i can say > for certain that > from my obsevation,that their problems are as > numerous,or even worse. > George,I hate to say, was ore correct than not in > assuming an American > trait was to go off "half cocked".I see this in at > least about 53 > percent of americans. Regarding your political > accusations,personally,Im not so sure i am so > anti-imperalist -i can > understand evryone else being Pissed though-petrol > was recently 1.65 > a > gallon here in Texas.At that price every redneck who > wants to drive > around in Hummers,moterhomes,S.U.V's and other gass > guzzlers can do > so > while the rest of the world pays so very dearly for > our "Blameless" > priveledge.Look if bush- a dirty marauding > murederer-wants to kill > saddam-another dirty marauding murderer and take his > oil-well idont > know,but just dont lie about the reasion! Anyway, > there are enoughjack > booted thugs out there who seem to want the work!I'm > sorry to be so > srcastic,and I'm Sorry to have offeneded any > conservatives-NO IM NOT. > Ok- Please ,Please allow me this one post > everbody,by way of a reply > to the new guy,since im the one that inferred all > american familys > were > dysfunctional-i just hope its a case of all birds > flocking together " > in > my particular instance,and that I am out of touch > with reality(as if i > wasnt!).Again i sincerely plead to allow this one > post to go > unpunished > and "shine it on " so to speak and i know this is a > NAk. 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Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com Mon Jan 3 01:10:44 2005 From: kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com (kannan srinivasaraghavan) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 16:10:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] Spare CR2 Mechanism with gear drive availableforconverting your BX or RX series In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050103001044.53149.qmail@web52401.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Martin sorry I could not reply you immediately. My mechanism has a defective mode cam motor. So you cannot use my mech and another person wants rest of the mechanism for gear drive mod. Ron is one of our experienced electronic design engineer. You better take his help as that would be the cheapest alternative you have. I also had opened the motor and removed the deadspot and used the same later on another Nak. The spare control motor from Nak would be expensive. hope this info is helpful. My new year wishes to you and your family kannan martinferreira at hotmail.com wrote: Hi Kannan Thanks for your reply. I am not the one who will replace the control motor but a supposedly Nak expert here in Montreal. Unfortunately he is unwilling or unable to rebulid the existing one and since he cannot get the part (he claims Nakamichi went bankrupt and no longer provides pars) I am doing the leg work in order to provide him with a control motor for My CR3. I have had an offer from a Nak tech I contacted through Naktalk named Ron who is willing to rebuild the control motor for free. Talk about Nak solidarity. However, if I find a used one (yours perhaps) I can spare him the trouble. Have a happy and peaceful new year and do keep in touch Martin >From: kannan srinivasaraghavan >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Spare CR2 Mechanism with gear drive availableforconverting your BX or RX series >Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 03:46:48 -0800 (PST) > >Hi Martin > this mechanism contains control motor as well. I do not have the base motherboard ( all are in San Jose with my brother) to test but think that it works. I will wait and see whether anybody requires the whole stuff or only gear drive parts without the control motor. Do you really know how to replace the control motor? ? >few days or take the whole mechanism if you wish >wait >kannan >martinferreira at hotmail.com wrote: > >do you have a control motor for the CR2? > >Martin > > > > > >From: kannan srinivasaraghavan > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >To: Nak Cassette Deck list > >Subject: [naktalk] Spare CR2 Mechanism with gear drive available forconverting your BX or RX series > >Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 08:49:09 -0800 (PST) > > > >Hi guys > >I have a CR2 mechanism complete with gear drive motor/ gears ( not suitable for CR 7A as it requires second spool gear with reflector at the back) and capstan motor / mode cam motor etc. Persons interested to contact me off list. If anybody wants me to convert their BX 300 - I can do that as well - rquire a bit of time. > >thanks for reading this. > >kannan > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neillipes628 at hotmail.com Sun Jan 2 20:42:18 2005 From: neillipes628 at hotmail.com (neil lipes) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 14:42:18 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? In-Reply-To: <000601c4f0f6$65937480$c801a8c0@geoffwin2k> Message-ID: I only have one question to ask any who care to answer: Why the hell would anybody buy an SUV for NYC, and why are there so many Hummers on the streets here??..... >From: greynolds at newsguy.com >Reply-To: greynolds at newsguy.com, Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Subject: Re: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank >cassette? >Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 13:10:52 -0500 > >Am I still on the NakTalk list, or have I been switched to a list about >dysfunctional families and "politics"? I'm not quite sure how many >different groups you attempted to offend with your post, but it was >certainly more than just conservative rednecks who drive SUV's (or is that >anyone who drives a SUV is a conservative redneck, or anyone who is a >redneck is a conservative who drives a SUV?). >-- >Geoffrey Reynolds >http://www.crestron.geoff-reynolds.net > >From: "Gerald G." > > > > Hi Colin,let me unofficially welcome you to the naktalk.this post is > > more of a direct answer to you on your mention of some of the family > > issues on the Naktalk.I ask anyone who is sick of this by now to do me a > > favour and PLease allow this one last post or skip to the next one > > now.There,now..I am the one with the disfunctional famlty,and i would > > certainly hope that your family is not as screwed up as mine.Of > > course,all familys have their problems,that goes withot saying,and there > > is no such thing as the "ozzie and harriet" type of ethnically cleansed > > white suburban bliss -and their never was.Having said that,let me > > continue. I come from a upper middle class American family .All of my > > parents friends and acquantances have some symptom of the american > > middle class malaise(industrial disease?),even though it may not have > > manifested itself in verbal and and physical abuse to the extent that it > > did in my beloved family..One friend,an Eingenieer,has a son that has > > been in and out of prison and another,a Dentist,has a son who is a > > succesful surgeon,but has a wife that will not let him visit his > > parents.Many have alcholics in their familys ,others have disease from > > unhealthy and/or glottonous lifestyles,and I could go on and on,but > > hopefully you see what I mean.My point is,I think,that when the body > > itself is diseased,as you rightly pointed out in your brief and to the > > point indictment of Bush/Blair &CO.,then we,as part of that body simply > > cant live autoimmune,but must exhibit symptoms of this disease. I dont > > know about the other classes,sometimes i think the working class lives > > in a kind of blissfull ignorance,although i can say for certain that > > from my obsevation,that their problems are as numerous,or even worse. > > George,I hate to say, was ore correct than not in assuming an American > > trait was to go off "half cocked".I see this in at least about 53 > > percent of americans. Regarding your political > > accusations,personally,Im not so sure i am so anti-imperalist -i can > > understand evryone else being Pissed though-petrol was recently 1.65 a > > gallon here in Texas.At that price every redneck who wants to drive > > around in Hummers,moterhomes,S.U.V's and other gass guzzlers can do so > > while the rest of the world pays so very dearly for our "Blameless" > > priveledge.Look if bush- a dirty marauding murederer-wants to kill > > saddam-another dirty marauding murderer and take his oil-well idont > > know,but just dont lie about the reasion! Anyway, there are enoughjack > > booted thugs out there who seem to want the work!I'm sorry to be so > > srcastic,and I'm Sorry to have offeneded any conservatives-NO IM NOT. > > Ok- Please ,Please allow me this one post everbody,by way of a reply > > to the new guy,since im the one that inferred all american familys were > > dysfunctional-i just hope its a case of all birds flocking together " in > > my particular instance,and that I am out of touch with reality(as if i > > wasnt!).Again i sincerely plead to allow this one post to go unpunished > > and "shine it on " so to speak and i know this is a NAk. Line and > > henceforth i will not clutter the space .if this is too off the wall and > > intolerable,i will get off for an extended period,whatever is deemed > > appropriate. > > > > thank you very much, > > gerald > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar � get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sun Jan 2 10:18:40 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 09:18:40 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Dysfunctional Naks In-Reply-To: <000601c4f0f6$65937480$c801a8c0@geoffwin2k> Message-ID: <000e01c4f0ac$0c9a5aa0$4bdd883e@oemcomputer> Wow! Or, as they say on eBay "WOW!" That damn dam's been building up a while ... But hang on there - I got a dysfunctional family, too!! And a dysfunctional work environment! Seriously ... but for the latter, I might not have been off sick from work these past 8 weeks with work related stress. And - to keep this on topic - but for the trusty Nak ZX-9 and other musical gear, I may have wrapped m'self and my modest car (45-50 mpg - rather more environmentally friendly than a SUV, I suppose ... ) around a lamp post for a very long sleep. (And even the ZX9 was dysfunctional until B&W mended it ...) But I've got an even more dysfunctional family living next door - adopted kid's a thief, gambler and pyromaniac and he's only 12 years old ... but, you see they DON'T have a Nakamichi to calm them. (And if they did the little SOB would probably fence it for a few $$s anyway ... Hmmm ... I'd better check my household contents insurance ...) However, this pal of mine on another audio site was, on Boxing Day early morning, bemoaning the fact that he'd been too stubborn with Quantas and refused their not cheap enough flight deal for a glorious holiday in SE Asia. Lucky Aussies, he said, in their Summer Christmas party hats on the beach. Ah! He hadn't heard about the earthquake ... Turned out he'd let go a holiday in a beach bungalow @ Phi Phi. Here comes another "WOW" ... stubbornness saved $900 AND his Life. Kinda put things into perspective? Not really. What did it for me was the news of a British guy interviewed by the BBC whilst sunbathing on a beach where the authorities were still collecting bodies! It shocked me at first. Why are you still here? the correspondent asked. "Well," he said, "most of my friends are still alive and, apart from Boxing Day, this has been a brilliant holiday. Life has to go on. So, I'm going to spend my money and finish the holiday." Only then the penny dropped for me: Not to waste my time fighting folk but to enjoy the music while I still can. After all the next big natural disaster could be that smouldering super volcano that is the Yellowstone National Park - when she blows, goodbye everyone in a 600 mile radius who'll be killed instantly and goodbye everyone else in the World who'll starve or freeze to death!! Gra' From b4uer at hotmail.com Mon Jan 3 01:43:18 2005 From: b4uer at hotmail.com (Greg Bauer) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 19:43:18 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] DRAGON CALIBRATION Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karakapas at hotmail.com Mon Jan 3 04:42:35 2005 From: karakapas at hotmail.com (ng ben) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 11:42:35 +0800 Subject: [naktalk] Beocord 5500 In-Reply-To: <41D633EA.5080702@woods-and-waters.com> Message-ID: Hi Kermit, Wow, really appreciate the detailed writeup on Beocord vs Naks. The comparsions are pertinent as the Beocord 5500 I was considering is a further second to the 9000. Always suspected B&O to be more style than substance, even though it is often, at least to me, seen as a high-end make because of its high-end price. I note that B&O uses sendust heads like those used in Naks 480s, whereas Naks 582 and above employ crystalloy heads. Always wondered whether the use of these 2 head types contribute to durability or to sonic quality. Somewhat awed that your comments are about the Naks portable 550 when the comparison is vs decks. I have, in addition, a need to replace a small tableside set (for transcripting purposes it has to be besides the writing pad) and was considering another no-frills $30-50 set. But your comments have spurred me to consider the Naks 250/350. Don't know much about it but read somewhere that it runs on an internal rechargeable battery which poses a question mark about a battery of that age... an a/c adapter would be more ideal. Anyone with views on them? I have 3 "other" decks of the 2 headed kind and am justing discovering Naks. I am in the process of replacing all the decks having just begun with my newly acquired Naks BX300 which I am gradually putting through its paces. Naks have somewhat rekindled my hifi adventure as the CD players I deal with are efficient, even fine sonically but present bland interfaces. Happy New Year to you too. Ben Ng >From: "Kermit V. Gray" >Reply-To: graker at woods-and-waters.com, Talk about Nakamichi Cassette >Decks >To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Beocord 5500 >Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 00:23:54 -0500 > >Hi Ben, > >ng ben wrote: >>Wonder if any Nakers out there have made a A/B comparison on a B&O vs Nak >>- would be interesting to know which Nak. I recall a thread on "the best >>cassette deck ever made" here on Naktalk, where a sole response rated the >>Beocord 9000 betters the Dragon(!). Always wondered by what measure of >>record or playback capability (technical or sonically) the writer was >>making the judgement. > >Another great way to start the New Year: Nakamichi Versus Bang & Olufsen. >Sounds like a great title for an action movie. > >Well, to start, I use my cassette decks professionally as well as for my >own musical bliss. I judge ANY recorder for "hi(gh)" its "fi" is -- >especially compared against live, unprocessed musical performances. This is >th eultimate test; "My new 'Supersound Millenium Falcon 2000XYZ' is better >than my old 'Boca Grande Megatape Ultratech 1000'" isn't really that great >of a test, yet such "reviews" are what most columns seems to be. So here >goes, one Nakaphiliac's OPINION, for what that's worth. > >My currently running cassette decks are: Nakamichi 550, Nakamichi 600-II, >Bang & Olufsen Beocord 9000, Revox B710 Mk. II, Marantz PMD-430, (H)Onkyo >TA-RW11, and Pioneer CT-F7272. The Pioneer CT-F7272 is better than the >Dragon, of course. (No, it isn't!) [For reasons of rampant mediocrity, >we'll skip the Pioneer (a.k.a." Cryin'-Ear" in the 1970s), Onkyo and >Marantz. Don't tell anyone I own these, please.] So here's a quick >pro-audio review: > >Nakamichi 550: Excellent sound that is natural and clean yet has an >infectious quality (high fun factor), excellent dynamic range and headroom >because of IEC1 EQ. Open, airy spatial imaging, with a sense of depth and >immediacy that is quite lifelike. Sound quality reminiscent of the better >studio reel-to-reels. Hard to believe this is "only" a 1970s cassette deck! >Studio quality in a portable package. STRENGTHS -- Outstanding limiter, >very good microphone preamps, excellent meters, very good transport that is >simple and practical, ability to fine-tune bias manually, easily cleaned >and maintained, holds tape head azimuth very well over time, and lower >subjective tape noise because of noise floor spectrum. WEAKNESSES -- >awkward tape visibility, two-head design. > >Nakamichi 600-II: Excellent sound that is natural and clean yet has an >infectious quality (high fun factor), excellent dynamic range and headroom >because of IEC1 EQ. Open, airy spatial imaging, with a sense of depth and >immediacy that is quite lifelike. Sound quality reminiscent of the better >studio reel-to-reels. Hard to believe this is "only" a 1970s cassette deck! >Studio quality and reliability with style. STRENGTHS -- Excellent meters, >very good transport that is simple and practical, ability to fine-tune bias >manually, ability to fine-tune Dolby Level manually, ability to select 70uS >and 120 uS EQ for Chrome tape, very easily cleaned and maintained, holds >tape head azimuth very well over time, and lower subjective tape noise >because of noise floor spectrum. WEAKNESSES -- Two-head design, ski-slope >cabinet doesn't stack well. > >Bang & Olufsen Beocord 9000: Excellent dynamic range and very good headroom >despite IEC2 EQ, excellent sound that is subtly flattering (a trademark of >most B&O products, seemingly). Tight spatial imaging, with very good bass >detail; "sweet" highs that seem clean but give the deck an almost dark >character. Seems to emphasize styling and gadgets over substance. STRENGTHS >-- Computer Controlled Calibration does a great job optimizing it for any >tape, holds tape head azimuth well over time, and gentle tape handling. >WEAKNESSES -- mediocre meters, very awkward lack of clear tape visibility >that requires you use a tape end warning system, unpleasant to listen to >without noise reduction, counter-intuitive procedure to put into record >mode, DIN input-output, jacks only, marginal microphone preamps, >mechanically ordinary and troublesome tape drive mechanism lacks the >sophistication and refinement shown by Nakamichi decks (and to a lesser >extent by Revox), two-head design, ski-slope cabinet doesn't stack well and >is more of a top loader in concept than the Nak 600-II, and runs hot. > >Revox B710 Mk. II: Excellent dynamic range and headroom despite IEC2 EQ, >excellent sound that is natural and clean, suggestive of a studio deck. >tight spatial imaging, though lacking bass detail, which seems to typify >Revox. Clean highs with almost a sense of airiness. A true "superdeck," >although it always seems to need some tweaking or maintenance, making it >finicky like a fine sports car. STRENGTHS -- Three head design, accurate >peak meters, visually impressive in an intimidating way, excellent tape >handling, excellent tape visibility, stackable front loader, built like a >main battle tank, good mic preamps, mic/line input mixing, the best >headphone amp I've heard in a cassette deck, perfect match to a Revox B77 >(if you have one), and excellent snob appeal (if required.) WEAKNESSES -- >calibration of bias, Eq and Dolby requires opening the deck up and >performing elaborate and tedious procedures, thus you cannot get the peak >performance of the deck unless you stick with only one type of cassette >tape; dual-capstan, three motor tape drive can be troublesome to keep in >top running order, doesn't hold tape head azimuth or any calibration >settings well over time, runs hot, meters doesn't give good indication of >average levels, and switch knobs are ridiculously fragile for a deck of >this price. > >Best Sound with no noise reduction: Nakamichi 550 and 600-II, although the >550's limiter gives it a slight edge. >Best Sound with Dolby B: Nakamichi 550 and 600-II because the >Best Sound with Dolby C: Revox B710 by default. >Best Sound with dbx: The Beocord 9000 has the best built-in dbx I've heard >to date. Period. Nevertheless, connect an outboard dbx 222 or 224 to a >naakmichi 600, switch its Dolby Off, choose Chrome tape, set EQ to 120 uS >and you'll experience one of the best recordings of your life. As close to >Big Label sound as you can get without sitting in a control room on Studio >Wow! You'll understand my passion for the older Naks! > >Best Overall Sound: Hard to call. I'm addicted to the vivid spatial imaging >and "fun sound" of my two Nakamichis, the Revox's "effortless excellence" >is a pleasure in its own way, and the Beogram 9000's natural-yet-flattering >sound is relaxing for casual listening. It's a close tie between the Naks >and the Revox. The Revox has the standard IEC2 EQ, so I use it for making >cassette masters. But that elusive quality of the Naks give them a slight >edge for me personally, escpecially when used with an outboard dbx noise >reduction. > >The Beogram 9000 is an excellent deck, but "The Best Deck?" When I read >that assertion, I thought I was hallucinating. No, it isn't. Put a Beogram >against any of the Nakamichis that have pad lifter tape mechanisms and the >auto-azimuth adjustment and it will lose every time. > >Happy New Year to one and all -- may the great sounds be yours! > >-- >Kermit Gray >Woods & Waters/KVG Labs >16371 Lake Point Drive >Bonner Springs, KS 66012 >USA >816-918-5058 cellphone >913-422-0957 business >http://www.woods-and-waters.com > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Block pop-up ads with MSN Toolbar. http://toolbar.msn.com.my/ From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Mon Jan 3 12:08:40 2005 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 22:08:40 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank cassette? Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D0531D7DE@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> I pretty sure I read it somewhere on Sony's History site, then again I was very tired at the time and easily could have mis-read the article :) Tom -----Original Message----- From: Stan Targowski [mailto:stan.targowski at comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, 2 January 2005 6:15 To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: RE: [naktalk] TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank cassette? Tom - r u sure about Sony? Sony and Philips were first with the CD, but cassette I thought was just Philips (?) As far as TDK and Maxell, I feel it was also TDK. Stan -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Siomopoulos Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 7:07 PM To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' Subject: RE: [naktalk] TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank cassette? It was actually Philips and Sony. But my guess would be TDK. Tom. -----Original Message----- From: Keith Hugo [mailto:valman13440 at yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, 30 December 2004 4:04 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank cassette? Does anyone know who came out with a blank compact cassette first,Maxell or TDK?I know TDK is a older company than Maxell but was just curious as to who introduced the first blank cassette of these two company's?Thanks for any insight..Keith. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com Mon Jan 3 12:32:30 2005 From: kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com (kannan srinivasaraghavan) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 03:32:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] DRAGON CALIBRATION In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050103113230.37053.qmail@web52402.mail.yahoo.com> Your Dragon has head alignment issues - most probably azimuth alignment. You can do this carefully by first adjusting the level - still level may not be correct but for this purpse it is still fine. Now adjust the azimuth screw of the record head - if you do not know what is this try to obtain service manual. You have to remove the cassette door cover to access the azimuth screw. Be very careful not to touch any other screw. You slowly adjust this screw both ways keeping the bias calibration on - you will find bias level will go beyond your zero now. hope this works for you kannan Greg Bauer wrote: I have a 'DRAGON', and recently I've been having trouble calibrating it. I've tried it both with chromium and metal TDK and Maxell tapes. While calibrating, I first go through the 400hz calibration with no problems, then, I advance to the bias calibration. I can't turn the respective calibration adjustments far enough to even get close to the 'CAL' points. I've gone through the 'ROUGH CALIBRATION' procedure just like the owners manual says and procede to the 'MANUAL CALIBRATION' without any improvements. To be quite honest, I can't even detect the difference between the 'ROUGH CALIBRATION' and the 'MANUAL CALIBRATION'. They both have exactly the same procedures. What's the difference? Maybe I'm reading to fast, or skipping over something, or just simply doing something wrong. I've read and re-read it so many times I can't see how I could have missed something. Any help ?? THANKS Greg Bauer ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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However, strongly I recommend you if you just received/acquired...etc...!, to turn ON for two hours with touching...let to the electronics inside to warm for two hours, after so...commence all the calibrations...PS...During those two hours warning the whole machine..READ VERY CAREFULLY...the Instructions to understand 100% perfectly HOW to use it as INTEND!!! Write back if you succeed or not? Good luck and be patiently!!!! Sincerely, ALEX! >From: "Greg Bauer" >Reply-To: B4UER at hotmail.com, Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: [naktalk] DRAGON CALIBRATION >Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 19:43:18 -0500 > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alexcozac at hotmail.com Mon Jan 3 12:39:58 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 13:39:58 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] DRAGON CALIBRATION Message-ID: Dear Kannan! IF...some guy attempt with the heads screws...?, so what I wrote is NOT relevant! I understand that Greg machine; like mine still "Factory Calibrated/Adjusted"...If NOT!!! I'm away of any advice!!! Cheers, ALEX! >From: kannan srinivasaraghavan >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: B4UER at hotmail.com, Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] DRAGON CALIBRATION >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 03:32:30 -0800 (PST) > >Your Dragon has head alignment issues - most probably azimuth alignment. >You can do this carefully by first adjusting the level - still level may >not be correct but for this purpse it is still fine. Now adjust the >azimuth screw of the record head - if you do not know what is this try to >obtain service manual. You have to remove the cassette door cover to access >the azimuth screw. Be very careful not to touch any other screw. You slowly >adjust this screw both ways keeping the bias calibration on - you will find >bias level will go beyond your zero now. >hope this works for you >kannan > >Greg Bauer wrote: > >I have a 'DRAGON', and recently I've been having trouble calibrating it. >I've tried it both with chromium and metal TDK and Maxell tapes. While >calibrating, I first go through the 400hz calibration with no problems, >then, I advance to the bias calibration. I can't turn the respective >calibration adjustments far enough to even get close to the 'CAL' points. >I've gone through the 'ROUGH CALIBRATION' procedure just like the owners >manual says and procede to the 'MANUAL CALIBRATION' without any >improvements. To be quite honest, I can't even detect the difference >between the 'ROUGH CALIBRATION' and the 'MANUAL CALIBRATION'. They both >have exactly the same procedures. What's the difference? Maybe I'm >reading to fast, or skipping over something, or just simply doing something >wrong. I've read and re-read it so many times I can't see how I could have >missed something. Any help ?? THANKS > > > > > > >Greg Bauer > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= >Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= >Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ From cmmarsh at ntlworld.com Mon Jan 3 13:43:47 2005 From: cmmarsh at ntlworld.com (Colin Marsh) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 12:43:47 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: Message-ID: Don't know about service for the Aiwa F990, but the XK009! that's a different matter. I own both the Aiwa XK007 and 009 EXCELIA decks - I got them from a local auction out of curiosity! As the pair came at a price of only £30.00 UK it was no hardship, I later discovered that both these models seem to be professional models and most found there way into studios as mastering decks. I tried thru Aiwa and Sony to get the machines serviced with no luck, I tried my local repairers - with no luck. I was about to give up and cut my losses but then a friend suggested a studio technician may be my answer, I live in London UK, so there are plenty about! This was the answer! and both machines were duly serviced (together with my two ReVox R to R decks!). Service was good, fast and didn't break the bank. The technician said" the Excelias are easy to work on, parts are not a problem and Excelias tend to be robust and reliable?" Depending on your location, this may be the way to go for the Aiwa XK 009 Excelia.if you are in the UK I can get you in contact with "my man"! All I can say is that it will be worth it! In my opinion both of these Aiwa Excelia decks are very underated machines! They don't appear for sale often in the UK, and are usually studio sales. I recently saw and purchased a second 007 on ebay for £18.00, superbly well maintained in great order as well! For domestic use the only problems I can see are the deepness (they are very deep!). The mains transformers are bolted on the rear panel to isolate any mains hum?, and having to earth the chassis can be awkward. Many are converted to balanced outputs/inputs (one of my 007s and the 009 are) but this is easy to get around. In my opinion, again, both the 007 and 009 tread on my "Dragons" tail and equal the ZX7 when recording and playing back with DBX switched in! and the 009 can "chase the Dragon" and jump ahead of the ZX7 using Dolby C . I had both the 007 and 009 calibrated for TDK SA European stock cassettes that are easy to get here in the UK ( I buy them by the hundred at £50.00 a shot!). I find that with DBX and these tapes the Excelia's are near perfect recording and playing good analogue, and thanks to DBX "kick ass" with digital, Alas my Naks cant do that being restricted to Dolby B/C! Please dont get me wrong! My Naks are some of my favourite babies and always will be, but I think it is fair to say that part of the Naks appeal is due to that "little bit" that is added (Somebody told me it is called "that Nak sound"). and after all they are only cassette decks! and as good as they are, some of my "other babies", ReVox R to Rs, fed with a good tape and analogue source eat the Naks for breakfast! I do hope you have some success with finding a repairer! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(Freud) > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of neil lipes > Sent: 02 January 2005 19:42 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank > cassette? > > > I only have one question to ask any who care to answer: > > Why the hell would anybody buy an SUV for NYC, and why are there so many > Hummers on the streets here??..... > From bg3009 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 3 14:36:04 2005 From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 05:36:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050103133604.66287.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Colin, Yes I am figuring the 009 to be a good deck. I really loved the 990, it had a warm and wonderful sound without sacrificing the high frquencies. Here in Singapore, there aren't too many guys to repair the fault. Usually, I do the repairs myself. The 009 seems to have a simple fault, the motor powering the idler tire doesnt seem to move when i hit play. it works when i hit f.fwd and rewind. I;ve used DBX for reel decks and in my opinion, it sounds great with simple jazz pieces. It get confused with complex signals, especially with many instruments and thus seems to sound badly. Thats my opinion though, and i may be hearing wrongly. Bala --- Colin Marsh wrote: > Don't know about service for the Aiwa F990, but the > XK009! that's a > different matter. I own both the Aiwa XK007 and 009 > EXCELIA decks - I got > them from a local auction out of curiosity! As the > pair came at a price of > only �30.00 UK it was no hardship, I later > discovered that both these > models seem to be professional models and most found > there way into studios > as mastering decks. I tried thru Aiwa and Sony to > get the machines serviced > with no luck, I tried my local repairers - with no > luck. I was about to > give up and cut my losses but then a friend > suggested a studio technician > may be my answer, I live in London UK, so there are > plenty about! This was > the answer! and both machines were duly serviced > (together with my two ReVox > R to R decks!). Service was good, fast and didn't > break the bank. The > technician said" the Excelias are easy to work on, > parts are not a problem > and Excelias tend to be robust and reliable?" > Depending on your location, this may be the way to > go for the Aiwa XK 009 > Excelia.if you are in the UK I can get you in > contact with "my man"! All I > can say is that it will be worth it! > In my opinion both of these Aiwa Excelia decks are > very underated machines! > They don't appear for sale often in the UK, and are > usually studio sales. I > recently saw and purchased a second 007 on ebay for > �18.00, superbly well > maintained in great order as well! For domestic use > the only problems I can > see are the deepness (they are very deep!). The > mains transformers are > bolted on the rear panel to isolate any mains hum?, > and having to earth the > chassis can be awkward. Many are converted to > balanced outputs/inputs (one > of my 007s and the 009 are) but this is easy to get > around. > In my opinion, again, both the 007 and 009 tread on > my "Dragons" tail and > equal the ZX7 when recording and playing back with > DBX switched in! and the > 009 can "chase the Dragon" and jump ahead of the ZX7 > using Dolby C . I had > both the 007 and 009 calibrated for TDK SA European > stock cassettes that are > easy to get here in the UK ( I buy them by the > hundred at �50.00 a shot!). > I find that with DBX and these tapes the Excelia's > are near perfect > recording and playing good analogue, and thanks to > DBX "kick ass" with > digital, Alas my Naks cant do that being restricted > to Dolby B/C! > Please dont get me wrong! My Naks are some of my > favourite babies and > always will be, but I think it is fair to say that > part of the Naks appeal > is due to that "little bit" that is added (Somebody > told me it is called > "that Nak sound"). and after all they are only > cassette decks! and as good > as they are, some of my "other babies", ReVox R to > Rs, fed with a good tape > and analogue source eat the Naks for breakfast! > I do hope you have some success with finding a > repairer! > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! > http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Send a seasonal email greeting and help others. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com From kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com Mon Jan 3 15:13:01 2005 From: kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com (kannan srinivasaraghavan) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 06:13:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] DRAGON CALIBRATION In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050103141301.25308.qmail@web52404.mail.yahoo.com> Yes Alex you are 200% right with your previous message- guys do not touch any of these whilte plastic gear toothed adjusting wheels on the headblock plate holder unless you have read and understood what those adjustment means????? Thnaks Alex for reminding manytimes , it is better to wait and understand before doing anything particularly Nak head alignment. kannan Alex Cozac wrote: Dear Kannan! IF...some guy attempt with the heads screws...?, so what I wrote is NOT relevant! I understand that Greg machine; like mine still "Factory Calibrated/Adjusted"...If NOT!!! I'm away of any advice!!! Cheers, ALEX! >From: kannan srinivasaraghavan >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: B4UER at hotmail.com, Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] DRAGON CALIBRATION >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 03:32:30 -0800 (PST) > >Your Dragon has head alignment issues - most probably azimuth alignment. >You can do this carefully by first adjusting the level - still level may >not be correct but for this purpse it is still fine. Now adjust the >azimuth screw of the record head - if you do not know what is this try to >obtain service manual. You have to remove the cassette door cover to access >the azimuth screw. Be very careful not to touch any other screw. You slowly >adjust this screw both ways keeping the bias calibration on - you will find >bias level will go beyond your zero now. >hope this works for you >kannan > >Greg Bauer wrote: > >I have a 'DRAGON', and recently I've been having trouble calibrating it. >I've tried it both with chromium and metal TDK and Maxell tapes. While >calibrating, I first go through the 400hz calibration with no problems, >then, I advance to the bias calibration. I can't turn the respective >calibration adjustments far enough to even get close to the 'CAL' points. >I've gone through the 'ROUGH CALIBRATION' procedure just like the owners >manual says and procede to the 'MANUAL CALIBRATION' without any >improvements. To be quite honest, I can't even detect the difference >between the 'ROUGH CALIBRATION' and the 'MANUAL CALIBRATION'. They both >have exactly the same procedures. What's the difference? Maybe I'm >reading to fast, or skipping over something, or just simply doing something >wrong. I've read and re-read it so many times I can't see how I could have >missed something. Any help ?? THANKS > > > > > > >Greg Bauer > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= >Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= >Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wdrewes at iafrica.com Mon Jan 3 17:07:50 2005 From: wdrewes at iafrica.com (wme drewes) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:07:50 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: References: Message-ID: <004901c4f1ae$608d6820$0e92fea9@wdrewes> Just wondering when last your Dragon was professionally serviced by people that have the correct calibration and adjustment instruments(including tapes)? Do not let anyone loose on a Dragon who does not have these items.I have 5 Dragons and those that have been serviced by competent people(known for their competence in the trade )but who dont have the full complement of equipment dont sound as well as those that Stephen Sank has serviced! ( The same holds for my CR 7's as well) Bear in mind that those not serviced by Mr Sank still sound superlative! Please dont touch those "white little wheels"if you dont have the equipment for complete adjustments,you might get an improvement on performance,but in all propability a vast amount of further improvement will lie latent in your excellent machine! Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the water lying in waiting) ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Marsh To: naktalk Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:43 PM Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: Don't know about service for the Aiwa F990, but the XK009! that's a different matter. I own both the Aiwa XK007 and 009 EXCELIA decks - I got them from a local auction out of curiosity! As the pair came at a price of only £30.00 UK it was no hardship, I later discovered that both these models seem to be professional models and most found there way into studios as mastering decks. I tried thru Aiwa and Sony to get the machines serviced with no luck, I tried my local repairers - with no luck. I was about to give up and cut my losses but then a friend suggested a studio technician may be my answer, I live in London UK, so there are plenty about! This was the answer! and both machines were duly serviced (together with my two ReVox R to R decks!). Service was good, fast and didn't break the bank. The technician said" the Excelias are easy to work on, parts are not a problem and Excelias tend to be robust and reliable?" Depending on your location, this may be the way to go for the Aiwa XK 009 Excelia.if you are in the UK I can get you in contact with "my man"! All I can say is that it will be worth it! In my opinion both of these Aiwa Excelia decks are very underated machines! They don't appear for sale often in the UK, and are usually studio sales. I recently saw and purchased a second 007 on ebay for £18.00, superbly well maintained in great order as well! For domestic use the only problems I can see are the deepness (they are very deep!). The mains transformers are bolted on the rear panel to isolate any mains hum?, and having to earth the chassis can be awkward. Many are converted to balanced outputs/inputs (one of my 007s and the 009 are) but this is easy to get around. In my opinion, again, both the 007 and 009 tread on my "Dragons" tail and equal the ZX7 when recording and playing back with DBX switched in! and the 009 can "chase the Dragon" and jump ahead of the ZX7 using Dolby C . I had both the 007 and 009 calibrated for TDK SA European stock cassettes that are easy to get here in the UK ( I buy them by the hundred at £50.00 a shot!). I find that with DBX and these tapes the Excelia's are near perfect recording and playing good analogue, and thanks to DBX "kick ass" with digital, Alas my Naks cant do that being restricted to Dolby B/C! Please dont get me wrong! My Naks are some of my favourite babies and always will be, but I think it is fair to say that part of the Naks appeal is due to that "little bit" that is added (Somebody told me it is called "that Nak sound"). and after all they are only cassette decks! and as good as they are, some of my "other babies", ReVox R to Rs, fed with a good tape and analogue source eat the Naks for breakfast! I do hope you have some success with finding a repairer! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sandorpistike at hotmail.com Mon Jan 3 17:50:44 2005 From: sandorpistike at hotmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E1ndor_Istv=E1n?=) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 17:50:44 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: References: <004901c4f1ae$608d6820$0e92fea9@wdrewes> Message-ID: Hello Walter! "Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the water lying in waiting)" Are you waiting for your sixth Dragon? Unbelievable... :-))) How many CR7s do you have? I am really envy of you... ;-) Happy New Year! István ----- Original Message ----- From: wme drewes To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: Just wondering when last your Dragon was professionally serviced by people that have the correct calibration and adjustment instruments(including tapes)? Do not let anyone loose on a Dragon who does not have these items.I have 5 Dragons and those that have been serviced by competent people(known for their competence in the trade )but who dont have the full complement of equipment dont sound as well as those that Stephen Sank has serviced! ( The same holds for my CR 7's as well) Bear in mind that those not serviced by Mr Sank still sound superlative! Please dont touch those "white little wheels"if you dont have the equipment for complete adjustments,you might get an improvement on performance,but in all propability a vast amount of further improvement will lie latent in your excellent machine! Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the water lying in waiting) ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Marsh To: naktalk Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:43 PM Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: Don't know about service for the Aiwa F990, but the XK009! that's a different matter. I own both the Aiwa XK007 and 009 EXCELIA decks - I got them from a local auction out of curiosity! As the pair came at a price of only £30.00 UK it was no hardship, I later discovered that both these models seem to be professional models and most found there way into studios as mastering decks. I tried thru Aiwa and Sony to get the machines serviced with no luck, I tried my local repairers - with no luck. I was about to give up and cut my losses but then a friend suggested a studio technician may be my answer, I live in London UK, so there are plenty about! This was the answer! and both machines were duly serviced (together with my two ReVox R to R decks!). Service was good, fast and didn't break the bank. The technician said" the Excelias are easy to work on, parts are not a problem and Excelias tend to be robust and reliable?" Depending on your location, this may be the way to go for the Aiwa XK 009 Excelia.if you are in the UK I can get you in contact with "my man"! All I can say is that it will be worth it! In my opinion both of these Aiwa Excelia decks are very underated machines! They don't appear for sale often in the UK, and are usually studio sales. I recently saw and purchased a second 007 on ebay for £18.00, superbly well maintained in great order as well! For domestic use the only problems I can see are the deepness (they are very deep!). The mains transformers are bolted on the rear panel to isolate any mains hum?, and having to earth the chassis can be awkward. Many are converted to balanced outputs/inputs (one of my 007s and the 009 are) but this is easy to get around. In my opinion, again, both the 007 and 009 tread on my "Dragons" tail and equal the ZX7 when recording and playing back with DBX switched in! and the 009 can "chase the Dragon" and jump ahead of the ZX7 using Dolby C . I had both the 007 and 009 calibrated for TDK SA European stock cassettes that are easy to get here in the UK ( I buy them by the hundred at £50.00 a shot!). I find that with DBX and these tapes the Excelia's are near perfect recording and playing good analogue, and thanks to DBX "kick ass" with digital, Alas my Naks cant do that being restricted to Dolby B/C! Please dont get me wrong! My Naks are some of my favourite babies and always will be, but I think it is fair to say that part of the Naks appeal is due to that "little bit" that is added (Somebody told me it is called "that Nak sound"). and after all they are only cassette decks! and as good as they are, some of my "other babies", ReVox R to Rs, fed with a good tape and analogue source eat the Naks for breakfast! 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URL: From p9019 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 3 22:36:04 2005 From: p9019 at yahoo.com (Scott Johnson) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 13:36:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] DRAGON CALIBRATION In-Reply-To: <20050103113230.37053.qmail@web52402.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050103213604.99878.qmail@web40427.mail.yahoo.com> I have picture on my Nak deck calibration page. http://www.geocities.com/p9019/nakamichi/Nak_Cal.html Figure 4.17 might be of interest to you. It shows the location and function of the little white adjustment screws. You might want to make a little pen mark on them so you know where they were before you start playing with them. You shouldn't need to turn any of them more than 1/4 turn (unless previously someone played with them without knowing what the hell they were doing.) I hope to have an electrical adjustment web page in the near future. Even though this info is for the 660ZX it is applicable to nearly all Nak 3-head decks in the last 25 years. Some steps don't apply to non Auto Azimuth decks and some steps get replaced or new steps added with the Dragon and CR-7A. I'd like to add these differences if I could get a hold of Dragon and CR-7A service manuals. Any one got one they can email me. SJ --- kannan srinivasaraghavan wrote: > Your Dragon has head alignment issues - most probably azimuth > alignment. You can do this carefully by first adjusting the level - > still level may not be correct but for this purpse it is still > fine. Now adjust the azimuth screw of the record head - if you do > not know what is this try to obtain service manual. You have to > remove the cassette door cover to access the azimuth screw. Be very > careful not to touch any other screw. You slowly adjust this screw > both ways keeping the bias calibration on - you will find bias > level will go beyond your zero now. > hope this works for you > kannan > > Greg Bauer wrote: > > I have a 'DRAGON', and recently I've been having trouble > calibrating it. I've tried it both with chromium and metal TDK and > Maxell tapes. While calibrating, I first go through the 400hz > calibration with no problems, then, I advance to the bias > calibration. I can't turn the respective calibration adjustments > far enough to even get close to the 'CAL' points. I've gone > through the 'ROUGH CALIBRATION' procedure just like the owners > manual says and procede to the 'MANUAL CALIBRATION' without any > improvements. To be quite honest, I can't even detect the > difference between the 'ROUGH CALIBRATION' and the 'MANUAL > CALIBRATION'. They both have exactly the same procedures. What's > the difference? Maybe I'm reading to fast, or skipping over > something, or just simply doing something wrong. I've read and > re-read it so many times I can't see how I could have missed > something. Any help ?? THANKS > > > > > > > Greg Bauer > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses.> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com From alexcozac at hotmail.com Mon Jan 3 15:06:17 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 16:06:17 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? Message-ID: Dear Graham! Please be an a educated UK gentleman!!! STOP!!!!! Sincerely, your friend! ALEX! >From: "Nelson" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Subject: RE: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank >cassette? >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 12:48:18 -0000 > >Answer: Penis Envy! (Freud) > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > Behalf Of neil lipes > > Sent: 02 January 2005 19:42 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank > > cassette? > > > > > > I only have one question to ask any who care to answer: > > > > Why the hell would anybody buy an SUV for NYC, and why are there so many > > Hummers on the streets here??..... > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ From stan.targowski at comcast.net Mon Jan 3 15:21:04 2005 From: stan.targowski at comcast.net (Stan Targowski) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 08:21:04 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Beocord 5500 In-Reply-To: <41D633EA.5080702@woods-and-waters.com> Message-ID: Kermit, thanks for great review of several decks. One question, in reference to your statement below, which version of Beocord 9000 you are talking about, it is my understanding that this model did not offer built-in DBX. B&O came out with Dolby HX and 9000 was a great implementation of this headroom extension system, but not DBX. <> Stan -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Kermit V. Gray Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 11:24 PM To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Beocord 5500 Hi Ben, ng ben wrote: > Wonder if > any Nakers out there have made a A/B comparison on a B&O vs Nak - would > be interesting to know which Nak. I recall a thread on "the best > cassette deck ever made" here on Naktalk, where a sole response rated > the Beocord 9000 betters the Dragon(!). Always wondered by what > measure of record or playback capability (technical or sonically) the > writer was making the judgement. Another great way to start the New Year: Nakamichi Versus Bang & Olufsen. Sounds like a great title for an action movie. Well, to start, I use my cassette decks professionally as well as for my own musical bliss. I judge ANY recorder for "hi(gh)" its "fi" is -- especially compared against live, unprocessed musical performances. This is th eultimate test; "My new 'Supersound Millenium Falcon 2000XYZ' is better than my old 'Boca Grande Megatape Ultratech 1000'" isn't really that great of a test, yet such "reviews" are what most columns seems to be. So here goes, one Nakaphiliac's OPINION, for what that's worth. My currently running cassette decks are: Nakamichi 550, Nakamichi 600-II, Bang & Olufsen Beocord 9000, Revox B710 Mk. II, Marantz PMD-430, (H)Onkyo TA-RW11, and Pioneer CT-F7272. The Pioneer CT-F7272 is better than the Dragon, of course. (No, it isn't!) [For reasons of rampant mediocrity, we'll skip the Pioneer (a.k.a." Cryin'-Ear" in the 1970s), Onkyo and Marantz. Don't tell anyone I own these, please.] So here's a quick pro-audio review: Nakamichi 550: Excellent sound that is natural and clean yet has an infectious quality (high fun factor), excellent dynamic range and headroom because of IEC1 EQ. Open, airy spatial imaging, with a sense of depth and immediacy that is quite lifelike. Sound quality reminiscent of the better studio reel-to-reels. Hard to believe this is "only" a 1970s cassette deck! Studio quality in a portable package. STRENGTHS -- Outstanding limiter, very good microphone preamps, excellent meters, very good transport that is simple and practical, ability to fine-tune bias manually, easily cleaned and maintained, holds tape head azimuth very well over time, and lower subjective tape noise because of noise floor spectrum. WEAKNESSES -- awkward tape visibility, two-head design. Nakamichi 600-II: Excellent sound that is natural and clean yet has an infectious quality (high fun factor), excellent dynamic range and headroom because of IEC1 EQ. Open, airy spatial imaging, with a sense of depth and immediacy that is quite lifelike. Sound quality reminiscent of the better studio reel-to-reels. Hard to believe this is "only" a 1970s cassette deck! Studio quality and reliability with style. STRENGTHS -- Excellent meters, very good transport that is simple and practical, ability to fine-tune bias manually, ability to fine-tune Dolby Level manually, ability to select 70uS and 120 uS EQ for Chrome tape, very easily cleaned and maintained, holds tape head azimuth very well over time, and lower subjective tape noise because of noise floor spectrum. WEAKNESSES -- Two-head design, ski-slope cabinet doesn't stack well. Bang & Olufsen Beocord 9000: Excellent dynamic range and very good headroom despite IEC2 EQ, excellent sound that is subtly flattering (a trademark of most B&O products, seemingly). Tight spatial imaging, with very good bass detail; "sweet" highs that seem clean but give the deck an almost dark character. Seems to emphasize styling and gadgets over substance. STRENGTHS -- Computer Controlled Calibration does a great job optimizing it for any tape, holds tape head azimuth well over time, and gentle tape handling. WEAKNESSES -- mediocre meters, very awkward lack of clear tape visibility that requires you use a tape end warning system, unpleasant to listen to without noise reduction, counter-intuitive procedure to put into record mode, DIN input-output, jacks only, marginal microphone preamps, mechanically ordinary and troublesome tape drive mechanism lacks the sophistication and refinement shown by Nakamichi decks (and to a lesser extent by Revox), two-head design, ski-slope cabinet doesn't stack well and is more of a top loader in concept than the Nak 600-II, and runs hot. Revox B710 Mk. II: Excellent dynamic range and headroom despite IEC2 EQ, excellent sound that is natural and clean, suggestive of a studio deck. tight spatial imaging, though lacking bass detail, which seems to typify Revox. Clean highs with almost a sense of airiness. A true "superdeck," although it always seems to need some tweaking or maintenance, making it finicky like a fine sports car. STRENGTHS -- Three head design, accurate peak meters, visually impressive in an intimidating way, excellent tape handling, excellent tape visibility, stackable front loader, built like a main battle tank, good mic preamps, mic/line input mixing, the best headphone amp I've heard in a cassette deck, perfect match to a Revox B77 (if you have one), and excellent snob appeal (if required.) WEAKNESSES -- calibration of bias, Eq and Dolby requires opening the deck up and performing elaborate and tedious procedures, thus you cannot get the peak performance of the deck unless you stick with only one type of cassette tape; dual-capstan, three motor tape drive can be troublesome to keep in top running order, doesn't hold tape head azimuth or any calibration settings well over time, runs hot, meters doesn't give good indication of average levels, and switch knobs are ridiculously fragile for a deck of this price. Best Sound with no noise reduction: Nakamichi 550 and 600-II, although the 550's limiter gives it a slight edge. Best Sound with Dolby B: Nakamichi 550 and 600-II because the Best Sound with Dolby C: Revox B710 by default. Best Sound with dbx: The Beocord 9000 has the best built-in dbx I've heard to date. Period. Nevertheless, connect an outboard dbx 222 or 224 to a naakmichi 600, switch its Dolby Off, choose Chrome tape, set EQ to 120 uS and you'll experience one of the best recordings of your life. As close to Big Label sound as you can get without sitting in a control room on Studio Wow! You'll understand my passion for the older Naks! Best Overall Sound: Hard to call. I'm addicted to the vivid spatial imaging and "fun sound" of my two Nakamichis, the Revox's "effortless excellence" is a pleasure in its own way, and the Beogram 9000's natural-yet-flattering sound is relaxing for casual listening. It's a close tie between the Naks and the Revox. The Revox has the standard IEC2 EQ, so I use it for making cassette masters. But that elusive quality of the Naks give them a slight edge for me personally, escpecially when used with an outboard dbx noise reduction. The Beogram 9000 is an excellent deck, but "The Best Deck?" When I read that assertion, I thought I was hallucinating. No, it isn't. Put a Beogram against any of the Nakamichis that have pad lifter tape mechanisms and the auto-azimuth adjustment and it will lose every time. Happy New Year to one and all -- may the great sounds be yours! -- Kermit Gray Woods & Waters/KVG Labs 16371 Lake Point Drive Bonner Springs, KS 66012 USA 816-918-5058 cellphone 913-422-0957 business http://www.woods-and-waters.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From alexcozac at hotmail.com Mon Jan 3 15:24:29 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 16:24:29 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] DRAGON CALIBRATION Message-ID: Hi Kannan! Really...I NEVER will understand, THE WHY...Nak owners touch thinks that NEVER must be disturbed?...AS the 3 heads alignment and more items like "Dolby" EQ, etc... IF was acquired or received as WAS factory adjusted...will do the job for many years of enjoyment! All my best!!!!! ALEX! >From: kannan srinivasaraghavan >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >Subject: Re: [naktalk] DRAGON CALIBRATION >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 06:13:01 -0800 (PST) > >Yes Alex >you are 200% right with your previous message- guys do not touch any of >these whilte plastic gear toothed adjusting wheels on the headblock plate >holder unless you have read and understood what those adjustment means????? >Thnaks Alex for reminding manytimes , it is better to wait and understand >before doing anything particularly Nak head alignment. >kannan > >Alex Cozac wrote: >Dear Kannan! > >IF...some guy attempt with the heads screws...?, so what I wrote is NOT >relevant! >I understand that Greg machine; like mine still "Factory >Calibrated/Adjusted"...If NOT!!! I'm away of any advice!!! > >Cheers, > >ALEX! > > > > > >From: kannan srinivasaraghavan > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >To: B4UER at hotmail.com, Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] DRAGON CALIBRATION > >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 03:32:30 -0800 (PST) > > > >Your Dragon has head alignment issues - most probably azimuth alignment. > >You can do this carefully by first adjusting the level - still level may > >not be correct but for this purpse it is still fine. Now adjust the > >azimuth screw of the record head - if you do not know what is this try to > >obtain service manual. You have to remove the cassette door cover to >access > >the azimuth screw. Be very careful not to touch any other screw. You >slowly > >adjust this screw both ways keeping the bias calibration on - you will >find > >bias level will go beyond your zero now. > >hope this works for you > >kannan > > > >Greg Bauer wrote: > > > >I have a 'DRAGON', and recently I've been having trouble calibrating it. > >I've tried it both with chromium and metal TDK and Maxell tapes. While > >calibrating, I first go through the 400hz calibration with no problems, > >then, I advance to the bias calibration. I can't turn the respective > >calibration adjustments far enough to even get close to the 'CAL' points. > >I've gone through the 'ROUGH CALIBRATION' procedure just like the owners > >manual says and procede to the 'MANUAL CALIBRATION' without any > >improvements. To be quite honest, I can't even detect the difference > >between the 'ROUGH CALIBRATION' and the 'MANUAL CALIBRATION'. They both > >have exactly the same procedures. What's the difference? Maybe I'm > >reading to fast, or skipping over something, or just simply doing >something > >wrong. I've read and re-read it so many times I can't see how I could >have > >missed something. Any help ?? THANKS > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Greg Bauer > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > >Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > >Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > >--------------------------------- > >Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! 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Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From dgb100 at psulias.psu.edu Mon Jan 3 15:51:14 2005 From: dgb100 at psulias.psu.edu (Derrick Beckner) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 09:51:14 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? In-Reply-To: <20161-41D82464-38@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net> References: <20161-41D82464-38@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20050103094627.01b92920@psulias.psu.edu> I would probably be offended if I could understand half of what you wrote. Haughtiness mixed with atrocious grammar and spelling doesn't really play very well. At 11:42 AM 1/2/2005, you wrote: >Hi Colin,let me unofficially welcome you to the naktalk.this post is >more of a direct answer to you on your mention of some of the family >issues on the Naktalk.I ask anyone who is sick of this by now to do me a >favour and PLease allow this one last post or skip to the next one >now.There,now..I am the one with the disfunctional famlty,and i would >certainly hope that your family is not as screwed up as mine.Of >course,all familys have their problems,that goes withot saying,and there >is no such thing as the "ozzie and harriet" type of ethnically cleansed >white suburban bliss -and their never was.Having said that,let me >continue. I come from a upper middle class American family .All of my >parents friends and acquantances have some symptom of the american >middle class malaise(industrial disease?),even though it may not have >manifested itself in verbal and and physical abuse to the extent that it >did in my beloved family..One friend,an Eingenieer,has a son that has >been in and out of prison and another,a Dentist,has a son who is a >succesful surgeon,but has a wife that will not let him visit his >parents.Many have alcholics in their familys ,others have disease from >unhealthy and/or glottonous lifestyles,and I could go on and on,but >hopefully you see what I mean.My point is,I think,that when the body >itself is diseased,as you rightly pointed out in your brief and to the >point indictment of Bush/Blair &CO.,then we,as part of that body simply >cant live autoimmune,but must exhibit symptoms of this disease. I dont >know about the other classes,sometimes i think the working class lives >in a kind of blissfull ignorance,although i can say for certain that >from my obsevation,that their problems are as numerous,or even worse. >George,I hate to say, was ore correct than not in assuming an American >trait was to go off "half cocked".I see this in at least about 53 >percent of americans. Regarding your political >accusations,personally,Im not so sure i am so anti-imperalist -i can >understand evryone else being Pissed though-petrol was recently 1.65 a >gallon here in Texas.At that price every redneck who wants to drive >around in Hummers,moterhomes,S.U.V's and other gass guzzlers can do so >while the rest of the world pays so very dearly for our "Blameless" >priveledge.Look if bush- a dirty marauding murederer-wants to kill >saddam-another dirty marauding murderer and take his oil-well idont >know,but just dont lie about the reasion! Anyway, there are enoughjack >booted thugs out there who seem to want the work!I'm sorry to be so >srcastic,and I'm Sorry to have offeneded any conservatives-NO IM NOT. >Ok- Please ,Please allow me this one post everbody,by way of a reply >to the new guy,since im the one that inferred all american familys were >dysfunctional-i just hope its a case of all birds flocking together " in >my particular instance,and that I am out of touch with reality(as if i >wasnt!).Again i sincerely plead to allow this one post to go unpunished >and "shine it on " so to speak and i know this is a NAk. Line and >henceforth i will not clutter the space .if this is too off the wall and >intolerable,i will get off for an extended period,whatever is deemed >appropriate. > >thank you very much, >gerald > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= Derrick Beckner Mapping Specialist Map Library Supervisor Penn State University 1 Paterno Library University Park, PA 16802 dgb100 at psulias.psu.edu http://www.libraries.psu.edu/maps/ 814-863-5753 Boston Red Sox, 2004 World Champions Yes, you read that right! From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Mon Jan 3 19:14:01 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:14:01 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002901c4f1c0$002731c0$a6d6883e@oemcomputer> Indeed! How does one ingratiate oneself into your favour, Walter, so that one might have a Dragon bequeathed in your Will? Grinham -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Sándor István Sent: 03 January 2005 16:51 To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: Hello Walter! "Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the water lying in waiting)" Are you waiting for your sixth Dragon? Unbelievable... :-))) How many CR7s do you have? I am really envy of you... ;-) Happy New Year! István ----- Original Message ----- From: wme drewes To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: Just wondering when last your Dragon was professionally serviced by people that have the correct calibration and adjustment instruments(including tapes)? Do not let anyone loose on a Dragon who does not have these items.I have 5 Dragons and those that have been serviced by competent people(known for their competence in the trade )but who dont have the full complement of equipment dont sound as well as those that Stephen Sank has serviced! ( The same holds for my CR 7's as well) Bear in mind that those not serviced by Mr Sank still sound superlative! Please dont touch those "white little wheels"if you dont have the equipment for complete adjustments,you might get an improvement on performance,but in all propability a vast amount of further improvement will lie latent in your excellent machine! Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the water lying in waiting) ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Marsh To: naktalk Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:43 PM Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: Don't know about service for the Aiwa F990, but the XK009! that's a different matter. I own both the Aiwa XK007 and 009 EXCELIA decks - I got them from a local auction out of curiosity! As the pair came at a price of only £30.00 UK it was no hardship, I later discovered that both these models seem to be professional models and most found there way into studios as mastering decks. I tried thru Aiwa and Sony to get the machines serviced with no luck, I tried my local repairers - with no luck. I was about to give up and cut my losses but then a friend suggested a studio technician may be my answer, I live in London UK, so there are plenty about! This was the answer! and both machines were duly serviced (together with my two ReVox R to R decks!). Service was good, fast and didn't break the bank. The technician said" the Excelias are easy to work on, parts are not a problem and Excelias tend to be robust and reliable?" Depending on your location, this may be the way to go for the Aiwa XK 009 Excelia.if you are in the UK I can get you in contact with "my man"! All I can say is that it will be worth it! In my opinion both of these Aiwa Excelia decks are very underated machines! They don't appear for sale often in the UK, and are usually studio sales. I recently saw and purchased a second 007 on ebay for £18.00, superbly well maintained in great order as well! For domestic use the only problems I can see are the deepness (they are very deep!). The mains transformers are bolted on the rear panel to isolate any mains hum?, and having to earth the chassis can be awkward. Many are converted to balanced outputs/inputs (one of my 007s and the 009 are) but this is easy to get around. In my opinion, again, both the 007 and 009 tread on my "Dragons" tail and equal the ZX7 when recording and playing back with DBX switched in! and the 009 can "chase the Dragon" and jump ahead of the ZX7 using Dolby C . I had both the 007 and 009 calibrated for TDK SA European stock cassettes that are easy to get here in the UK ( I buy them by the hundred at £50.00 a shot!). I find that with DBX and these tapes the Excelia's are near perfect recording and playing good analogue, and thanks to DBX "kick ass" with digital, Alas my Naks cant do that being restricted to Dolby B/C! Please dont get me wrong! My Naks are some of my favourite babies and always will be, but I think it is fair to say that part of the Naks appeal is due to that "little bit" that is added (Somebody told me it is called "that Nak sound"). and after all they are only cassette decks! and as good as they are, some of my "other babies", ReVox R to Rs, fed with a good tape and analogue source eat the Naks for breakfast! 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URL: From graker at woods-and-waters.com Mon Jan 3 20:09:30 2005 From: graker at woods-and-waters.com (Kermit V. Gray) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:09:30 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Beocord 5500 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41D9986A.3080906@woods-and-waters.com> Hi Ben! ng ben wrote: > Hi Kermit, > Wow, really appreciate the detailed writeup on Beocord vs Naks. The > comparsions are pertinent as the Beocord 5500 I was considering is a > further second to the 9000. Always suspected B&O to be more style > than substance, even though it is often, at least to me, seen as a > high-end make because of its high-end price. B&O's genius is in making very good sound look great and work very conveniently. I have a Beomaster 1900 that looks great and sounds great; even though it ws made in 1977, vistors often ask what it is -- then ask where they can buy one when they discover it's a stereo. Nevertheless, they do have to compromise the sound a bit otherwise their produicts would become unaffordable. But the compromises aren't as great as other "style-oriented" makers, like Bose. > I note that B&O uses sendust heads like those used in Naks 480s, whereas > Naks 582 and above employ crystalloy heads. Always wondered whether > the use of these 2 head types contribute to durability or to sonic quality. Some one else will have to answer this. My knowledge of heads is limited to which hats look best on mine. > Somewhat awed that your comments are about the Naks portable 550 when > the comparison is vs decks. I have, in addition, a need to replace a > small tableside set (for transcripting purposes it has to be besides the > writing pad) and was considering another no-frills $30-50 set. But your > comments have spurred me to consider the Naks 250/350. Don't know much > about it but read somewhere that it runs on an internal rechargeable > battery which poses a question mark about a battery of that age... an > a/c adapter would be more ideal. Anyone with views on them? Keep in mind the 550 is a portable version of the 500 -- it's a full-sized deck in all other respects. The 350 is a 550 made more portable, leaving off a couple of features -- but in no way compromising the sound. The 250 is a player only. The 250, 350, and 550 use an AC adapter, or your choice of D-cells or a rechargable. I've been told you can use D-sized Nicads in a 550 or 350, but i've never tried it. > I have 3 "other" decks of the 2 headed kind and am justing discovering > Naks. I am in the process of replacing all the decks having just begun > with my newly acquired Naks BX300 which I am gradually putting through > its paces. Naks have somewhat rekindled my hifi adventure as the CD > players I deal with are efficient, even fine sonically but present bland > interfaces. Excellent! Stereo can be quite a bit of fun -- if you have the right equipment! Naks are a good way to put fun into your stereo. N-Joy! -- Kermit Gray Woods & Waters/KVG Labs 16371 Lake Point Drive Bonner Springs, KS 66012 USA 816-918-5058 cellphone 913-422-0957 business http://www.woods-and-waters.com From bg3009 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 3 21:25:51 2005 From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 12:25:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050103202551.61589.qmail@web41415.mail.yahoo.com> Well that makes it easy to set up a dedicated for each type of tape he's using without having to pop the hood everytime u switch tapes :) Well does anyone have a schematic for these decks? The XK009 and F990 that is... Bala S�ndor Istv�n wrote: Hello Walter! "Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the water lying in waiting)" Are you waiting for your sixth Dragon? Unbelievable... :-))) How many CR7s do you have? I am really envy of you... ;-) Happy New Year! Istv�n ----- Original Message ----- From: wme drewes To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: Just wondering when last your Dragon was professionally serviced by people that have the correct calibration and adjustment instruments(including tapes)? Do not let anyone loose on a Dragon who does not have these items.I have 5 Dragons and those that have been serviced by competent people(known for their competence in the trade )but who dont have the full complement of equipment dont sound as well as those that Stephen Sank has serviced! ( The same holds for my CR 7's as well) Bear in mind that those not serviced by Mr Sank still sound superlative! Please dont touch those "white little wheels"if you dont have the equipment for complete adjustments,you might get an improvement on performance,but in all propability a vast amount of further improvement will lie latent in your excellent machine! Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the water lying in waiting) ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Marsh To: naktalk Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:43 PM Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: Don't know about service for the Aiwa F990, but the XK009! that's a different matter. I own both the Aiwa XK007 and 009 EXCELIA decks - I got them from a local auction out of curiosity! As the pair came at a price of only �30.00 UK it was no hardship, I later discovered that both these models seem to be professional models and most found there way into studios as mastering decks. I tried thru Aiwa and Sony to get the machines serviced with no luck, I tried my local repairers - with no luck. I was about to give up and cut my losses but then a friend suggested a studio technician may be my answer, I live in London UK, so there are plenty about! This was the answer! and both machines were duly serviced (together with my two ReVox R to R decks!). Service was good, fast and didn't break the bank. The technician said" the Excelias are easy to work on, parts are not a problem and Excelias tend to be robust and reliable?" Depending on your location, this may be the way to go for the Aiwa XK 009 Excelia.if you are in the UK I can get you in contact with "my man"! All I can say is that it will be worth it! In my opinion both of these Aiwa Excelia decks are very underated machines! They don't appear for sale often in the UK, and are usually studio sales. I recently saw and purchased a second 007 on ebay for �18.00, superbly well maintained in great order as well! For domestic use the only problems I can see are the deepness (they are very deep!). The mains transformers are bolted on the rear panel to isolate any mains hum?, and having to earth the chassis can be awkward. Many are converted to balanced outputs/inputs (one of my 007s and the 009 are) but this is easy to get around. In my opinion, again, both the 007 and 009 tread on my "Dragons" tail and equal the ZX7 when recording and playing back with DBX switched in! and the 009 can "chase the Dragon" and jump ahead of the ZX7 using Dolby C . I had both the 007 and 009 calibrated for TDK SA European stock cassettes that are easy to get here in the UK ( I buy them by the hundred at �50.00 a shot!). I find that with DBX and these tapes the Excelia's are near perfect recording and playing good analogue, and thanks to DBX "kick ass" with digital, Alas my Naks cant do that being restricted to Dolby B/C! Please dont get me wrong! My Naks are some of my favourite babies and always will be, but I think it is fair to say that part of the Naks appeal is due to that "little bit" that is added (Somebody told me it is called "that Nak sound"). and after all they are only cassette decks! and as good as they are, some of my "other babies", ReVox R to Rs, fed with a good tape and analogue source eat the Naks for breakfast! I do hope you have some success with finding a repairer! --------------------------------- ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= --------------------------------- ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------=================---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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Professionalism seems to be a lost art in the United States, with rare exceptions. -- Kermit Gray Woods & Waters/KVG Labs 16371 Lake Point Drive Bonner Springs, KS 66012 USA 816-918-5058 cellphone 913-422-0957 business http://www.woods-and-waters.com From bg3009 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 3 23:11:28 2005 From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 14:11:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] help with meter circuit In-Reply-To: <20050103213604.99878.qmail@web40427.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050103221128.48875.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> ok guys forgive me for bringing up a non-nak deck..but this one plays cassettes also. Its a technics m95, and i'm having a problem with its meter circuit. one channel is always showing full when the tape is played. when i switch to source, that channel meter shoots to full even without anything being plugged in. on the pcb, the first op amp is very hot..and has a high voltage dc o/p even though there is no signal input. Can anyone give me tips..i'm been on this for like over 10 days...and no breakthru. If it is alright, please msg me offline. Thanks Bala --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! � Get yours free! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lists at richardhess.com Tue Jan 4 01:29:49 2005 From: lists at richardhess.com (Richard L. Hess) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 19:29:49 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] DRAGON CALIBRATION In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1104798589.41d9e37dafc9a@www.richardhess.com> In my past 30 years of large-scale professional broadcast system design, one of the major failure modes in these facilities was what we called "screwdriver drift" where well-intentioned maintenance people "thought" they had the correct answer and adjusted something that wasn't the correct adjustment to fix the perceived problem. We used to joke about having large junkyard electromagnets at every door to remove the screwdrivers as people entered . Of course, that would be bad for the tapes . Happy New Year -- Richard L. Hess http://www.richardhess.com/tape/ Quoting Alex Cozac : > Hi Kannan! > > Really...I NEVER will understand, THE WHY...Nak owners touch thinks that > NEVER must be disturbed?...AS the 3 heads alignment and more items like > "Dolby" EQ, etc... IF was acquired or received as WAS factory > adjusted...will do the job for many years of enjoyment! > > All my best!!!!! > > ALEX! > > > > > >From: kannan srinivasaraghavan > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] DRAGON CALIBRATION > >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 06:13:01 -0800 (PST) > > > >Yes Alex > >you are 200% right with your previous message- guys do not touch any of > >these whilte plastic gear toothed adjusting wheels on the headblock plate > >holder unless you have read and understood what those adjustment means????? > >Thnaks Alex for reminding manytimes , it is better to wait and understand > >before doing anything particularly Nak head alignment. > >kannan > > > >Alex Cozac wrote: > >Dear Kannan! > > > >IF...some guy attempt with the heads screws...?, so what I wrote is NOT > >relevant! > >I understand that Greg machine; like mine still "Factory > >Calibrated/Adjusted"...If NOT!!! I'm away of any advice!!! > > > >Cheers, > > > >ALEX! > > > > > > > > > > >From: kannan srinivasaraghavan > > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > >To: B4UER at hotmail.com, Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > > > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] DRAGON CALIBRATION > > >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 03:32:30 -0800 (PST) > > > > > >Your Dragon has head alignment issues - most probably azimuth alignment. > > >You can do this carefully by first adjusting the level - still level may > > >not be correct but for this purpse it is still fine. Now adjust the > > >azimuth screw of the record head - if you do not know what is this try to > > >obtain service manual. You have to remove the cassette door cover to > >access > > >the azimuth screw. Be very careful not to touch any other screw. You > >slowly > > >adjust this screw both ways keeping the bias calibration on - you will > >find > > >bias level will go beyond your zero now. > > >hope this works for you > > >kannan > > > > > >Greg Bauer wrote: > > > > > >I have a 'DRAGON', and recently I've been having trouble calibrating it. > > >I've tried it both with chromium and metal TDK and Maxell tapes. While > > >calibrating, I first go through the 400hz calibration with no problems, > > >then, I advance to the bias calibration. I can't turn the respective > > >calibration adjustments far enough to even get close to the 'CAL' points. > > >I've gone through the 'ROUGH CALIBRATION' procedure just like the owners > > >manual says and procede to the 'MANUAL CALIBRATION' without any > > >improvements. To be quite honest, I can't even detect the difference > > >between the 'ROUGH CALIBRATION' and the 'MANUAL CALIBRATION'. They both > > >have exactly the same procedures. What's the difference? Maybe I'm > > >reading to fast, or skipping over something, or just simply doing > >something > > >wrong. I've read and re-read it so many times I can't see how I could > >have > > >missed something. Any help ?? THANKS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Greg Bauer > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > >Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > >Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > >--------------------------------- > > >Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! 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Download today it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From Mhugo at sunint.co.za Tue Jan 4 05:54:22 2005 From: Mhugo at sunint.co.za (Mark Hugo) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 06:54:22 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank cassette? Message-ID: Ah well Neil, many believe that SUV are not for off-road work, but are a palliative for deficient endocrine systems. What can I say? HehHeh. For the rest - lets all take it easy!! It's a wonderful new year and there are lots of people out there without homes let alone Nakamichis!! Best....Marc >>> neillipes628 at hotmail.com 01/02/05 09:42PM >>> I only have one question to ask any who care to answer: Why the hell would anybody buy an SUV for NYC, and why are there so many Hummers on the streets here??..... >From: greynolds at newsguy.com >Reply-To: greynolds at newsguy.com, Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Subject: Re: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank >cassette? >Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 13:10:52 -0500 > >Am I still on the NakTalk list, or have I been switched to a list about >dysfunctional families and "politics"? I'm not quite sure how many >different groups you attempted to offend with your post, but it was >certainly more than just conservative rednecks who drive SUV's (or is that >anyone who drives a SUV is a conservative redneck, or anyone who is a >redneck is a conservative who drives a SUV?). >-- >Geoffrey Reynolds >http://www.crestron.geoff-reynolds.net > >From: "Gerald G." > > > > Hi Colin,let me unofficially welcome you to the naktalk.this post is > > more of a direct answer to you on your mention of some of the family > > issues on the Naktalk.I ask anyone who is sick of this by now to do me a > > favour and PLease allow this one last post or skip to the next one > > now.There,now..I am the one with the disfunctional famlty,and i would > > certainly hope that your family is not as screwed up as mine.Of > > course,all familys have their problems,that goes withot saying,and there > > is no such thing as the "ozzie and harriet" type of ethnically cleansed > > white suburban bliss -and their never was.Having said that,let me > > continue. I come from a upper middle class American family .All of my > > parents friends and acquantances have some symptom of the american > > middle class malaise(industrial disease?),even though it may not have > > manifested itself in verbal and and physical abuse to the extent that it > > did in my beloved family..One friend,an Eingenieer,has a son that has > > been in and out of prison and another,a Dentist,has a son who is a > > succesful surgeon,but has a wife that will not let him visit his > > parents.Many have alcholics in their familys ,others have disease from > > unhealthy and/or glottonous lifestyles,and I could go on and on,but > > hopefully you see what I mean.My point is,I think,that when the body > > itself is diseased,as you rightly pointed out in your brief and to the > > point indictment of Bush/Blair &CO.,then we,as part of that body simply > > cant live autoimmune,but must exhibit symptoms of this disease. I dont > > know about the other classes,sometimes i think the working class lives > > in a kind of blissfull ignorance,although i can say for certain that > > from my obsevation,that their problems are as numerous,or even worse. > > George,I hate to say, was ore correct than not in assuming an American > > trait was to go off "half cocked".I see this in at least about 53 > > percent of americans. Regarding your political > > accusations,personally,Im not so sure i am so anti-imperalist -i can > > understand evryone else being Pissed though-petrol was recently 1.65 a > > gallon here in Texas.At that price every redneck who wants to drive > > around in Hummers,moterhomes,S.U.V's and other gass guzzlers can do so > > while the rest of the world pays so very dearly for our "Blameless" > > priveledge.Look if bush- a dirty marauding murederer-wants to kill > > saddam-another dirty marauding murderer and take his oil-well idont > > know,but just dont lie about the reasion! Anyway, there are enoughjack > > booted thugs out there who seem to want the work!I'm sorry to be so > > srcastic,and I'm Sorry to have offeneded any conservatives-NO IM NOT. > > Ok- Please ,Please allow me this one post everbody,by way of a reply > > to the new guy,since im the one that inferred all american familys were > > dysfunctional-i just hope its a case of all birds flocking together " in > > my particular instance,and that I am out of touch with reality(as if i > > wasnt!).Again i sincerely plead to allow this one post to go unpunished > > and "shine it on " so to speak and i know this is a NAk. Line and > > henceforth i will not clutter the space .if this is too off the wall and > > intolerable,i will get off for an extended period,whatever is deemed > > appropriate. > > > > thank you very much, > > gerald > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar û get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient/s. If you are not the intended recipient, you cannot use, copy, distribute, disclose or retain the email or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying to this message and to permanently delete it and all attachments from your computer. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present in this email and the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. From Mhugo at sunint.co.za Tue Jan 4 05:55:34 2005 From: Mhugo at sunint.co.za (Mark Hugo) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 06:55:34 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank cassette? Message-ID: Nice one Bart!!!!!!!! MH >>> bhonhoff at dds.nl 01/03/05 02:54PM >>> >From Hill Street Blues: It's a jungle out there!! ;-) Have a nice 2005, bart Quoting neil lipes : > I only have one question to ask any who care to answer: > > Why the hell would anybody buy an SUV for NYC, and why are there so many > Hummers on the streets here??..... > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient/s. 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(Freud) > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of neil lipes > Sent: 02 January 2005 19:42 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank > cassette? > > > I only have one question to ask any who care to answer: > > Why the hell would anybody buy an SUV for NYC, and why are there so many > Hummers on the streets here??..... > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient/s. If you are not the intended recipient, you cannot use, copy, distribute, disclose or retain the email or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying to this message and to permanently delete it and all attachments from your computer. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present in this email and the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Tue Jan 4 01:38:54 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 00:38:54 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <005a01c4f1f5$c4ad74c0$a6d6883e@oemcomputer> Honest, Alex - that IS from my education. Freudian psychology. Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of Alex Cozac > Sent: 03 January 2005 14:06 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: RE: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank > cassette? > > > Dear Graham! > > Please be an a educated UK gentleman!!! STOP!!!!! > > Sincerely, your friend! > > ALEX! > > > > > >From: "Nelson" > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank > >cassette? > >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 12:48:18 -0000 > > > >Answer: Penis Envy! (Freud) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > > Behalf Of neil lipes > > > Sent: 02 January 2005 19:42 > > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank > > > cassette? > > > > > > > > > I only have one question to ask any who care to answer: > > > > > > Why the hell would anybody buy an SUV for NYC, and why are > there so many > > > Hummers on the streets here??..... > > > > > From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Tue Jan 4 02:09:25 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 01:09:25 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20050103094627.01b92920@psulias.psu.edu> Message-ID: <005b01c4f1fa$0843de00$a6d6883e@oemcomputer> Hmmm .... as an expert in English, I should be offended by American English, with its corrupt spelling and divergence from the true language. I mean, why do those guys always say "negative" when a simple "no" would suffice? And what good reason was there to change the spelling of colour to color or tyre to tire?? <> So, in defence of me good ol' mate Gerald... (not that he needs me to defend him.) Atroshius grammor and spelin didnt stop John Clare becoming one of the finest poets of the English language. He's way up there with Byron, Keats and Wordsworth, with his nature works probably being the finest of ALL English speaking poets. Why, if Clare had been born a few years later he'd have been an analogue fan and used an all-manual Nakamichi, like a ZX-7 !!! Besides, in Shakespeare's day, the more ways you could spell a word was reckoned to show (or shew) the extent of one's creativity. Indeed, The Bard himself spelt his name various different ways. So, which pompous (probably academic) git made themselves Emperor of the English language and decided on its rules? (Hmmm ... I'll bet their decendants work for Sony, Microsoft and the 53 States ... ) And if those rules count for anything, why do we tolerate American English at all especially the bastardisation of the English language by US exported corruptions of the language such as "gay" (which once meant 'disposed of joy and mirth'), "take out" (once meaning "to remove", now 'to kill'), "neutralize" (once meant 'to render neutral', not 'to kill') and the inclusion of Orwellianisms as "collateral damage" (which means "dead or injured civilians") and "blue on blue" (which means 'we just killed our own people') ??? What counts in really good writing are the words that are used and the order in which they are placed to convey a message, a feeling, a mood, not how they are spelt nor the arbitrary grammatical pointings about which, as John Claire observed, grammarians seldom agree anyway. And, as a student of writing (Masters Degree in Writing Studies) I'd say good ol' Gerald is one of the finest writers to visit NakTalk. He knows a thing or too about Nak's and hi fi, as well !! Gra' (MA) > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of Derrick Beckner > Sent: 03 January 2005 14:51 > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: Re: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank > cassette? > > > I would probably be offended if I could understand half of what you wrote. > Haughtiness mixed with atrocious grammar and spelling doesn't really play > very well. > > At 11:42 AM 1/2/2005, you wrote: > >Hi Colin,let me unofficially welcome you to the naktalk.this post is > >more of a direct answer to you on your mention of some of the family > >issues on the Naktalk.I ask anyone who is sick of this by now to do me a > >favour and PLease allow this one last post or skip to the next one > >now.There,now..I am the one with the disfunctional famlty,and i would > >certainly hope that your family is not as screwed up as mine.Of > >course,all familys have their problems,that goes withot saying,and there > >is no such thing as the "ozzie and harriet" type of ethnically cleansed > >white suburban bliss -and their never was.Having said that,let me > >continue. I come from a upper middle class American family .All of my > >parents friends and acquantances have some symptom of the american > >middle class malaise(industrial disease?),even though it may not have > >manifested itself in verbal and and physical abuse to the extent that it > >did in my beloved family..One friend,an Eingenieer,has a son that has > >been in and out of prison and another,a Dentist,has a son who is a > >succesful surgeon,but has a wife that will not let him visit his > >parents.Many have alcholics in their familys ,others have disease from > >unhealthy and/or glottonous lifestyles,and I could go on and on,but > >hopefully you see what I mean.My point is,I think,that when the body > >itself is diseased,as you rightly pointed out in your brief and to the > >point indictment of Bush/Blair &CO.,then we,as part of that body simply > >cant live autoimmune,but must exhibit symptoms of this disease. I dont > >know about the other classes,sometimes i think the working class lives > >in a kind of blissfull ignorance,although i can say for certain that > >from my obsevation,that their problems are as numerous,or even worse. > >George,I hate to say, was ore correct than not in assuming an American > >trait was to go off "half cocked".I see this in at least about 53 > >percent of americans. Regarding your political > >accusations,personally,Im not so sure i am so anti-imperalist -i can > >understand evryone else being Pissed though-petrol was recently 1.65 a > >gallon here in Texas.At that price every redneck who wants to drive > >around in Hummers,moterhomes,S.U.V's and other gass guzzlers can do so > >while the rest of the world pays so very dearly for our "Blameless" > >priveledge.Look if bush- a dirty marauding murederer-wants to kill > >saddam-another dirty marauding murderer and take his oil-well idont > >know,but just dont lie about the reasion! Anyway, there are enoughjack > >booted thugs out there who seem to want the work!I'm sorry to be so > >srcastic,and I'm Sorry to have offeneded any conservatives-NO IM NOT. > >Ok- Please ,Please allow me this one post everbody,by way of a reply > >to the new guy,since im the one that inferred all american familys were > >dysfunctional-i just hope its a case of all birds flocking together " in > >my particular instance,and that I am out of touch with reality(as if i > >wasnt!).Again i sincerely plead to allow this one post to go unpunished > >and "shine it on " so to speak and i know this is a NAk. Line and > >henceforth i will not clutter the space .if this is too off the wall and > >intolerable,i will get off for an extended period,whatever is deemed > >appropriate. > > > >thank you very much, > >gerald > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > Derrick Beckner > Mapping Specialist > Map Library Supervisor > Penn State University > 1 Paterno Library > University Park, PA 16802 > dgb100 at psulias.psu.edu > http://www.libraries.psu.edu/maps/ > 814-863-5753 > > Boston Red Sox, 2004 World Champions > Yes, you read that right! > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Tue Jan 4 02:17:33 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 01:17:33 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] For Kermit In-Reply-To: <41D9986A.3080906@woods-and-waters.com> Message-ID: <005c01c4f1fb$2b1ca780$a6d6883e@oemcomputer> Hi Kermit As an engineer and specialist in recording, do you feel that stereo recording is the best way to capture the purest sound of the voices or instruments, and (of course) the use of stereo amplifiers and speakers to reproduce it? This may seem like a daft question. However, not so long ago I was in conversation with a maker of some very hi end kit - that is, he makes £250-£500 stereo decoders for vintage mono tuners, including the celebrated (in the UK and Australia, at atleast) Leak Troughlines. (Leak, by the way, had a Leak branded ski slope cassette deck which was made for them by Nakamichi.) I said to him my priority was in getting the best reproduction of the tonal quality of the instruments rather than building up some artificial "sound stage". It's not that I didn't want "stereo" but stereo sound is less important to me that getting the sound right, so that a wood instruments sounds like a wood instrument, that a Steinberg sounds like a Steinberg and not a Yamaha. His response was that I should forget stereo altogether, that I would never get as good tonal quality to the music from any tuner that uses a multiplex decoder. I was, "What, even your £500 model?" He said, "Yes." Gra' > From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Tue Jan 4 02:17:35 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 01:17:35 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Parts for 600 needeed In-Reply-To: <41D9A84F.7080101@woods-and-waters.com> Message-ID: <005d01c4f1fb$2c0f44e0$a6d6883e@oemcomputer> Kermit Try ES Labs or even B&W in the UK - they might help. Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of Kermit V. Gray > Sent: 03 January 2005 20:17 > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: [naktalk] Parts for 600 needeed > > > Dear felow Naka-zens, > > I am seeking the following replacement parts for a Nakamichi 600-II > cassette deck: > > Part # CA03257A Eject Bar Assembly > Part # CA03896B Lock Plate > Part # 0B07203A 100k dual section potentiometer, audio taper > > Any assistance anyone can provide is most appreciated! I've emailed > Nakamichi USA three times over the last month, but they've never > replied. Professionalism seems to be a lost art in the United States, > with rare exceptions. > > -- > Kermit Gray > Woods & Waters/KVG Labs > 16371 Lake Point Drive > Bonner Springs, KS 66012 > USA > 816-918-5058 cellphone > 913-422-0957 business > http://www.woods-and-waters.com > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Tue Jan 4 02:17:36 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 01:17:36 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] DRAGON CALIBRATION In-Reply-To: <1104798589.41d9e37dafc9a@www.richardhess.com> Message-ID: <005e01c4f1fb$2d1bd2e0$a6d6883e@oemcomputer> LOL! "screwdriver drift" I like that phrase very much! As "they" say, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing! Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of Richard L. Hess > Sent: 04 January 2005 00:30 > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: Re: [naktalk] DRAGON CALIBRATION > > > In my past 30 years of large-scale professional broadcast system > design, one of > the major failure modes in these facilities was what we called > "screwdriver > drift" where well-intentioned maintenance people "thought" they > had the correct > answer and adjusted something that wasn't the correct adjustment > to fix the > perceived problem. > > We used to joke about having large junkyard electromagnets at > every door to > remove the screwdrivers as people entered . Of course, > that would be bad > for the tapes . > > Happy New Year > -- > > Richard L. Hess > http://www.richardhess.com/tape/ > > > Quoting Alex Cozac : > > > Hi Kannan! > > > > Really...I NEVER will understand, THE WHY...Nak owners touch thinks that > > NEVER must be disturbed?...AS the 3 heads alignment and more items like > > "Dolby" EQ, etc... IF was acquired or received as WAS factory > > adjusted...will do the job for many years of enjoyment! > > > > All my best!!!!! > > > > ALEX! > > > > > > > > > > >From: kannan srinivasaraghavan > > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > >To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] DRAGON CALIBRATION > > >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 06:13:01 -0800 (PST) > > > > > >Yes Alex > > >you are 200% right with your previous message- guys do not touch any of > > >these whilte plastic gear toothed adjusting wheels on the > headblock plate > > >holder unless you have read and understood what those > adjustment means????? > > >Thnaks Alex for reminding manytimes , it is better to wait and > understand > > >before doing anything particularly Nak head alignment. > > >kannan > > > > > >Alex Cozac wrote: > > >Dear Kannan! > > > > > >IF...some guy attempt with the heads screws...?, so what I wrote is NOT > > >relevant! > > >I understand that Greg machine; like mine still "Factory > > >Calibrated/Adjusted"...If NOT!!! I'm away of any advice!!! > > > > > >Cheers, > > > > > >ALEX! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: kannan srinivasaraghavan > > > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > >To: B4UER at hotmail.com, Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] DRAGON CALIBRATION > > > >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 03:32:30 -0800 (PST) > > > > > > > >Your Dragon has head alignment issues - most probably > azimuth alignment. > > > >You can do this carefully by first adjusting the level - > still level may > > > >not be correct but for this purpse it is still fine. Now adjust the > > > >azimuth screw of the record head - if you do not know what > is this try to > > > >obtain service manual. You have to remove the cassette door cover to > > >access > > > >the azimuth screw. Be very careful not to touch any other screw. You > > >slowly > > > >adjust this screw both ways keeping the bias calibration on > - you will > > >find > > > >bias level will go beyond your zero now. > > > >hope this works for you > > > >kannan > > > > > > > >Greg Bauer wrote: > > > > > > > >I have a 'DRAGON', and recently I've been having trouble > calibrating it. > > > >I've tried it both with chromium and metal TDK and Maxell > tapes. While > > > >calibrating, I first go through the 400hz calibration with > no problems, > > > >then, I advance to the bias calibration. I can't turn the respective > > > >calibration adjustments far enough to even get close to the > 'CAL' points. > > > >I've gone through the 'ROUGH CALIBRATION' procedure just > like the owners > > > >manual says and procede to the 'MANUAL CALIBRATION' without any > > > >improvements. To be quite honest, I can't even detect the difference > > > >between the 'ROUGH CALIBRATION' and the 'MANUAL > CALIBRATION'. They both > > > >have exactly the same procedures. What's the difference? Maybe I'm > > > >reading to fast, or skipping over something, or just simply doing > > >something > > > >wrong. I've read and re-read it so many times I can't see how I could > > >have > > > >missed something. Any help ?? THANKS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Greg Bauer > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > > >Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > > >Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > >Maintain your account here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- > > > >Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Yahoo! 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Download today it's FREE! > > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From alexcozac at hotmail.com Tue Jan 4 06:17:04 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 07:17:04 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] DRAGON CALIBRATION Message-ID: Be my Guest!!! Faithfully New 2005 year for you and all your family relatives! ALEX! >From: "Richard L. Hess" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >Subject: Re: [naktalk] DRAGON CALIBRATION >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 19:29:49 -0500 > >In my past 30 years of large-scale professional broadcast system design, >one of >the major failure modes in these facilities was what we called "screwdriver >drift" where well-intentioned maintenance people "thought" they had the >correct >answer and adjusted something that wasn't the correct adjustment to fix the >perceived problem. > >We used to joke about having large junkyard electromagnets at every door to >remove the screwdrivers as people entered . Of course, that would be >bad >for the tapes . > >Happy New Year >-- > >Richard L. Hess >http://www.richardhess.com/tape/ > > >Quoting Alex Cozac : > > > Hi Kannan! > > > > Really...I NEVER will understand, THE WHY...Nak owners touch thinks that > > NEVER must be disturbed?...AS the 3 heads alignment and more items like > > "Dolby" EQ, etc... IF was acquired or received as WAS factory > > adjusted...will do the job for many years of enjoyment! > > > > All my best!!!!! > > > > ALEX! > > > > > > > > > > >From: kannan srinivasaraghavan > > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > >To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] DRAGON CALIBRATION > > >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 06:13:01 -0800 (PST) > > > > > >Yes Alex > > >you are 200% right with your previous message- guys do not touch any of > > >these whilte plastic gear toothed adjusting wheels on the headblock >plate > > >holder unless you have read and understood what those adjustment >means????? > > >Thnaks Alex for reminding manytimes , it is better to wait and >understand > > >before doing anything particularly Nak head alignment. > > >kannan > > > > > >Alex Cozac wrote: > > >Dear Kannan! > > > > > >IF...some guy attempt with the heads screws...?, so what I wrote is NOT > > >relevant! > > >I understand that Greg machine; like mine still "Factory > > >Calibrated/Adjusted"...If NOT!!! I'm away of any advice!!! > > > > > >Cheers, > > > > > >ALEX! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: kannan srinivasaraghavan > > > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > >To: B4UER at hotmail.com, Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] DRAGON CALIBRATION > > > >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 03:32:30 -0800 (PST) > > > > > > > >Your Dragon has head alignment issues - most probably azimuth >alignment. > > > >You can do this carefully by first adjusting the level - still level >may > > > >not be correct but for this purpse it is still fine. Now adjust the > > > >azimuth screw of the record head - if you do not know what is this >try to > > > >obtain service manual. You have to remove the cassette door cover to > > >access > > > >the azimuth screw. Be very careful not to touch any other screw. You > > >slowly > > > >adjust this screw both ways keeping the bias calibration on - you >will > > >find > > > >bias level will go beyond your zero now. > > > >hope this works for you > > > >kannan > > > > > > > >Greg Bauer wrote: > > > > > > > >I have a 'DRAGON', and recently I've been having trouble calibrating >it. > > > >I've tried it both with chromium and metal TDK and Maxell tapes. >While > > > >calibrating, I first go through the 400hz calibration with no >problems, > > > >then, I advance to the bias calibration. I can't turn the respective > > > >calibration adjustments far enough to even get close to the 'CAL' >points. > > > >I've gone through the 'ROUGH CALIBRATION' procedure just like the >owners > > > >manual says and procede to the 'MANUAL CALIBRATION' without any > > > >improvements. To be quite honest, I can't even detect the difference > > > >between the 'ROUGH CALIBRATION' and the 'MANUAL CALIBRATION'. They >both > > > >have exactly the same procedures. What's the difference? Maybe I'm > > > >reading to fast, or skipping over something, or just simply doing > > >something > > > >wrong. I've read and re-read it so many times I can't see how I could > > >have > > > >missed something. Any help ?? THANKS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Greg Bauer > > > > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > >Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > >Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > >Maintain your account here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- > > > >Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Yahoo! 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Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From alexcozac at hotmail.com Tue Jan 4 06:29:23 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 07:29:23 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: Message-ID: Walter!!!! Don't wait till you pass away..SENT one of your collected Dragons to Graham...so HE will live eternity!!!! Good Luck Graham!!!!!! ALEX! >From: "Nelson" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:14:01 -0000 > >Indeed! How does one ingratiate oneself into your favour, Walter, so that >one might have a Dragon bequeathed in your Will? > >Grinham > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On >Behalf >Of S�ndor Istv�n > Sent: 03 January 2005 16:51 > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > Hello Walter! > "Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the water lying >in >waiting)" > > Are you waiting for your sixth Dragon? Unbelievable... :-))) > How many CR7s do you have? > > I am really envy of you... ;-) > > Happy New Year! > Istv�n > ----- Original Message ----- > From: wme drewes > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:07 PM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > Just wondering when last your Dragon was professionally serviced by >people that have the correct calibration and adjustment >instruments(including tapes)? Do not let anyone loose on a Dragon who does >not have these items.I have 5 Dragons and those that have been serviced by >competent people(known for their competence in the trade )but who dont have >the full complement of equipment dont sound as well as those that Stephen >Sank has serviced! ( The same holds for my CR 7's as well) Bear in mind >that >those not serviced by Mr Sank still sound superlative! Please dont touch >those "white little wheels"if you dont have the equipment for complete >adjustments,you might get an improvement on performance,but in all >propability a vast amount of further improvement will lie latent in your >excellent machine! > Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the water lying >in >waiting) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Colin Marsh > To: naktalk > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:43 PM > Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > Don't know about service for the Aiwa F990, but the XK009! that's a >different matter. I own both the Aiwa XK007 and 009 EXCELIA decks - I got >them from a local auction out of curiosity! As the pair came at a price of >only �30.00 UK it was no hardship, I later discovered that both these >models seem to be professional models and most found there way into studios >as mastering decks. I tried thru Aiwa and Sony to get the machines >serviced >with no luck, I tried my local repairers - with no luck. I was about to >give up and cut my losses but then a friend suggested a studio technician >may be my answer, I live in London UK, so there are plenty about! This >was >the answer! and both machines were duly serviced (together with my two >ReVox >R to R decks!). Service was good, fast and didn't break the bank. The >technician said" the Excelias are easy to work on, parts are not a problem >and Excelias tend to be robust and reliable?" > Depending on your location, this may be the way to go for the Aiwa >XK >009 Excelia.if you are in the UK I can get you in contact with "my man"! >All I can say is that it will be worth it! > In my opinion both of these Aiwa Excelia decks are very underated >machines! They don't appear for sale often in the UK, and are usually >studio sales. I recently saw and purchased a second 007 on ebay for >�18.00, >superbly well maintained in great order as well! For domestic use the only >problems I can see are the deepness (they are very deep!). The mains >transformers are bolted on the rear panel to isolate any mains hum?, and >having to earth the chassis can be awkward. Many are converted to balanced >outputs/inputs (one of my 007s and the 009 are) but this is easy to get >around. > In my opinion, again, both the 007 and 009 tread on my "Dragons" >tail >and equal the ZX7 when recording and playing back with DBX switched in! >and >the 009 can "chase the Dragon" and jump ahead of the ZX7 using Dolby C . >I >had both the 007 and 009 calibrated for TDK SA European stock cassettes >that >are easy to get here in the UK ( I buy them by the hundred at �50.00 a >shot!). I find that with DBX and these tapes the Excelia's are near >perfect recording and playing good analogue, and thanks to DBX "kick ass" >with digital, Alas my Naks cant do that being restricted to Dolby B/C! > Please dont get me wrong! My Naks are some of my favourite babies >and >always will be, but I think it is fair to say that part of the Naks appeal >is due to that "little bit" that is added (Somebody told me it is called >"that Nak sound"). and after all they are only cassette decks! and as >good >as they are, some of my "other babies", ReVox R to Rs, fed with a good tape >and analogue source eat the Naks for breakfast! > I do hope you have some success with finding a repairer! > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ From alexcozac at hotmail.com Tue Jan 4 10:07:46 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 11:07:46 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] For Kermit Message-ID: Only for information; to all our lovely Nak member, I hear using my Stereo tube/valve equipment only trough ONE speaker, in our family since 1954 branded JBL "The Hartsfield" an a ugly;y big horn laded two way 16 Ohms speaker cabinet weight 1/4 of ton! Sound since 1954 amazing with NO problems at all. My Dynaco made by Panor in US during the earlier 90ties was rewired for a Triode operation 16 watts each channel...wired "Parallel" so I get 32 watts RMS, my "Hartsfield" has 110-Db efficiency, which is more that necessary! Of course...the cassettes trough my Dragon are recorded stereo...only the "END" in my system is hear "MONAURAL" Be well Graham!!! ALEX! >From: "Nelson" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Kermit >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 01:17:33 -0000 > >Hi Kermit > >As an engineer and specialist in recording, do you feel that stereo >recording is the best way to capture the purest sound of the voices or >instruments, and (of course) the use of stereo amplifiers and speakers to >reproduce it? This may seem like a daft question. However, not so long >ago >I was in conversation with a maker of some very hi end kit - that is, he >makes �250-�500 stereo decoders for vintage mono tuners, including the >celebrated (in the UK and Australia, at atleast) Leak Troughlines. (Leak, >by the way, had a Leak branded ski slope cassette deck which was made for >them by Nakamichi.) I said to him my priority was in getting the best >reproduction of the tonal quality of the instruments rather than building >up >some artificial "sound stage". It's not that I didn't want "stereo" but >stereo sound is less important to me that getting the sound right, so that >a >wood instruments sounds like a wood instrument, that a Steinberg sounds >like >a Steinberg and not a Yamaha. His response was that I should forget >stereo >altogether, that I would never get as good tonal quality to the music from >any tuner that uses a multiplex decoder. I was, "What, even your �500 >model?" He said, "Yes." > >Gra' > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ From alexcozac at hotmail.com Tue Jan 4 10:11:16 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 11:11:16 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? Message-ID: To the Ultimate & Educated UK Gentleman! I agreed! Continue as you feel inside your heart!!!! ALEX! >From: "Nelson" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Subject: RE: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank >cassette? >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 00:38:54 -0000 > >Honest, Alex - that IS from my education. Freudian psychology. > >Gra' > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > Behalf Of Alex Cozac > > Sent: 03 January 2005 14:06 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank > > cassette? > > > > > > Dear Graham! > > > > Please be an a educated UK gentleman!!! STOP!!!!! > > > > Sincerely, your friend! > > > > ALEX! > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Nelson" > > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank > > >cassette? > > >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 12:48:18 -0000 > > > > > >Answer: Penis Envy! (Freud) > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > > > Behalf Of neil lipes > > > > Sent: 02 January 2005 19:42 > > > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a >blank > > > > cassette? > > > > > > > > > > > > I only have one question to ask any who care to answer: > > > > > > > > Why the hell would anybody buy an SUV for NYC, and why are > > there so many > > > > Hummers on the streets here??..... > > > > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From sandorpistike at hotmail.com Tue Jan 4 10:55:08 2005 From: sandorpistike at hotmail.com (=?iso-8859-2?Q?S=E1ndor_Istv=E1n?=) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 10:55:08 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Alignment cassettes Message-ID: Hello all, sometimes we speak about alignment cassettes, but I really do not know where to get any. Cany you give me some hints? I already sent an email to B&W UK, but they think I do not deserve any answer... :-( Any comments? Thank you in advance. István -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wdrewes at iafrica.com Tue Jan 4 11:54:35 2005 From: wdrewes at iafrica.com (wme drewes) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 12:54:35 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Alignment cassettes References: Message-ID: <002101c4f24b$c7bdf300$0e92fea9@wdrewes> Sometimes you manage to find them on eBay.They usually are frightfully expensive(for me that is).I have about 20 of them but that is by no means a complete set ! walter ----- Original Message ----- From: Sándor István To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 11:55 AM Subject: [naktalk] Alignment cassettes Hello all, sometimes we speak about alignment cassettes, but I really do not know where to get any. Cany you give me some hints? I already sent an email to B&W UK, but they think I do not deserve any answer... :-( Any comments? Thank you in advance. István ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Tue Jan 4 12:52:05 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 11:52:05 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] For Alex In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003d01c4f253$d024da60$0a904c51@oemcomputer> That's very interesting. I would love to hear that speaker. I often record in mono those "stereo effect" recordings that were originally mono anyway! They seem to either have rotten sound stages or, if effort has gone into recreating a sound stage, they sound too processed and lack good tonal colour. Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of Alex Cozac > Sent: 04 January 2005 09:08 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Kermit > > > Only for information; to all our lovely Nak member, I hear using > my Stereo > tube/valve equipment only trough ONE speaker, in our family since 1954 > branded JBL "The Hartsfield" an a ugly;y big horn laded two way 16 Ohms > speaker cabinet weight 1/4 of ton! Sound since 1954 amazing with > NO problems > at all. My Dynaco made by Panor in US during the earlier 90ties > was rewired > for a Triode operation 16 watts each channel...wired "Parallel" > so I get 32 > watts RMS, my "Hartsfield" has 110-Db efficiency, which is more that > necessary! Of course...the cassettes trough my Dragon are recorded > stereo...only the "END" in my system is hear "MONAURAL" > > Be well Graham!!! > > ALEX! > > > > >From: "Nelson" > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Kermit > >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 01:17:33 -0000 > > > >Hi Kermit > > > >As an engineer and specialist in recording, do you feel that stereo > >recording is the best way to capture the purest sound of the voices or > >instruments, and (of course) the use of stereo amplifiers and speakers to > >reproduce it? This may seem like a daft question. However, not so long > >ago > >I was in conversation with a maker of some very hi end kit - that is, he > >makes £250-£500 stereo decoders for vintage mono tuners, including the > >celebrated (in the UK and Australia, at atleast) Leak > Troughlines. (Leak, > >by the way, had a Leak branded ski slope cassette deck which was made for > >them by Nakamichi.) I said to him my priority was in getting the best > >reproduction of the tonal quality of the instruments rather than > building > >up > >some artificial "sound stage". It's not that I didn't want "stereo" but > >stereo sound is less important to me that getting the sound > right, so that > >a > >wood instruments sounds like a wood instrument, that a Steinberg sounds > >like > >a Steinberg and not a Yamaha. His response was that I should forget > >stereo > >altogether, that I would never get as good tonal quality to the > music from > >any tuner that uses a multiplex decoder. I was, "What, even your £500 > >model?" He said, "Yes." > > > >Gra' > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > _________________________________________________________________ > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Tue Jan 4 12:52:08 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 11:52:08 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Alignment cassettes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003e01c4f253$d1d94120$0a904c51@oemcomputer> Occasionally, Nakamichi alignment cassettes (and equipment) turn up on eBay but they sell for VERY high prices. Perceived wisdom is NOT to use cassettes that are non-Nakamichi because the Nak' are more exacting ... that's why when a Nak equipped engineer sets up a deck back to factory specification, it will generally sound better than if a non-Nak equipped engineer did the work. Gra' -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Sándor István Sent: 04 January 2005 09:55 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Alignment cassettes Hello all, sometimes we speak about alignment cassettes, but I really do not know where to get any. Cany you give me some hints? I already sent an email to B&W UK, but they think I do not deserve any answer... :-( Any comments? Thank you in advance. István -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com Tue Jan 4 14:27:44 2005 From: kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com (kannan srinivasaraghavan) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 05:27:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] help with meter circuit In-Reply-To: <20050103221128.48875.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050104132745.30494.qmail@web52407.mail.yahoo.com> If that is an Opamp - check Powersupply points/( + and - points ofthe opamp. checkpower supply by pass caps- replace the opamp and it should be fine. sometimes differentia lvoltage across opamp can cause slewing and blow up or power supply failing ( this one is a more likely) . Yeah you have the other channel working and that can help you know the bias points - better to remove the meter connection - tominimise damage to the meter. hope this helps kannan Bala Ganesh Chandra wrote: ok guys forgive me for bringing up a non-nak deck..but this one plays cassettes also. Its a technics m95, and i'm having a problem with its meter circuit. one channel is always showing full when the tape is played. when i switch to source, that channel meter shoots to full even without anything being plugged in. on the pcb, the first op amp is very hot..and has a high voltage dc o/p even though there is no signal input. Can anyone give me tips..i'm been on this for like over 10 days...and no breakthru. If it is alright, please msg me offline. Thanks Bala --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! � Get yours free! ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alexcozac at hotmail.com Tue Jan 4 14:54:18 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:54:18 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Alignment cassettes Message-ID: Hi all Nak owners! ONCE...during the 80ties and till half of the 90ties, TDK sold a set in a plastic case 10 alignment cassettes, if I remember well was near 4:150.00 during that era, a lot of money for me, so I decided NOT to acquired...as till today if...! I buy them...will still un-used. Were very well made in Japan..using the newer SA formula tape and Shell. Who wanted...look maybe at e-Bay..with luck?! ALEX! >From: "wme drewes" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Alignment cassettes >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 12:54:35 +0200 > >Sometimes you manage to find them on eBay.They usually are frightfully >expensive(for me that is).I have about 20 of them but that is by no means a >complete set ! >walter > ----- Original Message ----- > From: S�ndor Istv�n > To: naktalk at naks.com > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 11:55 AM > Subject: [naktalk] Alignment cassettes > > > Hello all, > > sometimes we speak about alignment cassettes, but I really do not know >where to get any. > > Cany you give me some hints? > > I already sent an email to B&W UK, but they think I do not deserve any >answer... :-( > > Any comments? > > > Thank you in advance. > Istv�n > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From bg3009 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 4 09:26:11 2005 From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 00:26:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050104082611.97168.qmail@web41412.mail.yahoo.com> This five dragon stack has created some craze here hasnt it? When I was much much younger, and the only reel deck was my dad's X1000R (which was rotting away in pieces), he saw about 15 of these decks in a store, working. Unfortuntely, the store was selling electronics. It was buying scrap metal. Bala Alex Cozac wrote: Walter!!!! Don't wait till you pass away..SENT one of your collected Dragons to Graham...so HE will live eternity!!!! Good Luck Graham!!!!!! ALEX! >From: "Nelson" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:14:01 -0000 > >Indeed! How does one ingratiate oneself into your favour, Walter, so that >one might have a Dragon bequeathed in your Will? > >Grinham > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On >Behalf >Of S�ndor Istv�n > Sent: 03 January 2005 16:51 > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > Hello Walter! > "Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the water lying >in >waiting)" > > Are you waiting for your sixth Dragon? Unbelievable... :-))) > How many CR7s do you have? > > I am really envy of you... ;-) > > Happy New Year! > Istv�n > ----- Original Message ----- > From: wme drewes > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:07 PM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > Just wondering when last your Dragon was professionally serviced by >people that have the correct calibration and adjustment >instruments(including tapes)? Do not let anyone loose on a Dragon who does >not have these items.I have 5 Dragons and those that have been serviced by >competent people(known for their competence in the trade )but who dont have >the full complement of equipment dont sound as well as those that Stephen >Sank has serviced! ( The same holds for my CR 7's as well) Bear in mind >that >those not serviced by Mr Sank still sound superlative! Please dont touch >those "white little wheels"if you dont have the equipment for complete >adjustments,you might get an improvement on performance,but in all >propability a vast amount of further improvement will lie latent in your >excellent machine! > Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the water lying >in >waiting) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Colin Marsh > To: naktalk > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:43 PM > Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > Don't know about service for the Aiwa F990, but the XK009! that's a >different matter. I own both the Aiwa XK007 and 009 EXCELIA decks - I got >them from a local auction out of curiosity! As the pair came at a price of >only �30.00 UK it was no hardship, I later discovered that both these >models seem to be professional models and most found there way into studios >as mastering decks. I tried thru Aiwa and Sony to get the machines >serviced >with no luck, I tried my local repairers - with no luck. I was about to >give up and cut my losses but then a friend suggested a studio technician >may be my answer, I live in London UK, so there are plenty about! This >was >the answer! and both machines were duly serviced (together with my two >ReVox >R to R decks!). Service was good, fast and didn't break the bank. The >technician said" the Excelias are easy to work on, parts are not a problem >and Excelias tend to be robust and reliable?" > Depending on your location, this may be the way to go for the Aiwa >XK >009 Excelia.if you are in the UK I can get you in contact with "my man"! >All I can say is that it will be worth it! > In my opinion both of these Aiwa Excelia decks are very underated >machines! They don't appear for sale often in the UK, and are usually >studio sales. I recently saw and purchased a second 007 on ebay for >�18.00, >superbly well maintained in great order as well! For domestic use the only >problems I can see are the deepness (they are very deep!). The mains >transformers are bolted on the rear panel to isolate any mains hum?, and >having to earth the chassis can be awkward. Many are converted to balanced >outputs/inputs (one of my 007s and the 009 are) but this is easy to get >around. > In my opinion, again, both the 007 and 009 tread on my "Dragons" >tail >and equal the ZX7 when recording and playing back with DBX switched in! >and >the 009 can "chase the Dragon" and jump ahead of the ZX7 using Dolby C . >I >had both the 007 and 009 calibrated for TDK SA European stock cassettes >that >are easy to get here in the UK ( I buy them by the hundred at �50.00 a >shot!). I find that with DBX and these tapes the Excelia's are near >perfect recording and playing good analogue, and thanks to DBX "kick ass" >with digital, Alas my Naks cant do that being restricted to Dolby B/C! > Please dont get me wrong! My Naks are some of my favourite babies >and >always will be, but I think it is fair to say that part of the Naks appeal >is due to that "little bit" that is added (Somebody told me it is called >"that Nak sound"). and after all they are only cassette decks! and as >good >as they are, some of my "other babies", ReVox R to Rs, fed with a good tape >and analogue source eat the Naks for breakfast! > I do hope you have some success with finding a repairer! > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Modernizy at netscape.net Tue Jan 4 09:45:45 2005 From: Modernizy at netscape.net (Modernizy at netscape.net) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 03:45:45 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Happy new year - Eastern Europeans anyone ? Message-ID: <56877950.21AA6431.026D48C1@netscape.net> Hi, all and Happy New Year! Sure I'm here (Moscow, Russia). Probably not very active as it should be but always 'behind the scene'. As for the other Nick I met him from time to time but I'm not sure if he still reads Naktalk. With the very best wishes, Nicholas. >No Istvan, you are not alone here. I am Bulgarian and we also had a >few friends from Russia (the Niks, Vladimir?)and the Ukraine (Misha?) >- actually what happened with you guys, are you still out there ? > >George On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 08:55:18 +0100, Sándor István wrote: > Surely neither (nor Gremlins nor fighters). > My mother was born in just 1956, so to me this historical event is not that > bitter, than to the elder generation. > > Damn it, Hungary is still counted as a forgotten slave-country of the Big > Russian Bear??? > > I am not angry with this, but really being curious to know if it is... > Sorry for being off-topic. It is strange for me that noone from the former > "communist" countries are here... am I wrong? If yes, please let me know... > :-) > > Kind regards, > István __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp From bg3009 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 4 09:48:22 2005 From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 00:48:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] For Kermit In-Reply-To: <005c01c4f1fb$2b1ca780$a6d6883e@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <20050104084822.96516.qmail@web41402.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Graham, and Kermit, I am not quite suprised by the encounter. Many times, these days, people get mixed with a good sound, and a true sound. My preference is for something which I can sit down, and listen for hours at end, and sounds natural. Almost, as if, the singer was there. That is true sound. I realize that sometimes, this results in a mellow, and 'warm' sound with a slight rolled of treble.. as some describe. Recently, I went thru a debate of two sister tuner models made by the same company. They both employ the same audio section, but the IF and filters are totally different. When new, the cheaper one went for USD 700. The more advanced IF version cost a full USD1700! When compared side by side, the costlier version seems to outshine, with a clearer sound, better treble and so on. Its so good, you can plug out the antannae cable and this baby would still pull stations with a good signal strength! (In case you guys out there wonder, this was the tuner that ousted the Marantz 10B). The cheaper one had to have a good and strong signal. Yet, 30 years after all that, today the designer is helping people upgrade the more expensive tuner to have a similiar sonic signature to the cheaper tuner! Reason? I put back both tuners and when I listen carefully, the cheaper one, with a simpler filter and all that was more relaxed, more natural and had the most beautiful violins I ever heard on the airwaves. There are more examples when more money does not mean better sound ( point is what do we define as good sound?). But then again, money put in the right places, might yield what I'd call a true sound. In case guys out there are interested, I am considering plans to incorporate tubes in my Nak 680. Bala Nelson wrote: Hi Kermit As an engineer and specialist in recording, do you feel that stereo recording is the best way to capture the purest sound of the voices or instruments, and (of course) the use of stereo amplifiers and speakers to reproduce it? This may seem like a daft question. However, not so long ago I was in conversation with a maker of some very hi end kit - that is, he makes �250-�500 stereo decoders for vintage mono tuners, including the celebrated (in the UK and Australia, at atleast) Leak Troughlines. (Leak, by the way, had a Leak branded ski slope cassette deck which was made for them by Nakamichi.) I said to him my priority was in getting the best reproduction of the tonal quality of the instruments rather than building up some artificial "sound stage". It's not that I didn't want "stereo" but stereo sound is less important to me that getting the sound right, so that a wood instruments sounds like a wood instrument, that a Steinberg sounds like a Steinberg and not a Yamaha. His response was that I should forget stereo altogether, that I would never get as good tonal quality to the music from any tuner that uses a multiplex decoder. I was, "What, even your �500 model?" He said, "Yes." Gra' > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cmmarsh at ntlworld.com Tue Jan 4 11:33:50 2005 From: cmmarsh at ntlworld.com (Colin Marsh) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 10:33:50 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: FAO Walter. In-Reply-To: <004901c4f1ae$608d6820$0e92fea9@wdrewes> Message-ID: Walter The Dragon I was referring to was owned by my father from new in the early 1990's untill it came to me 2 years ago. Although it had little use, it was serviced yearly by authorised Nak techs in South Africa, later in Japan and finally two years ago in Germany. I myself would never even take the covers off, let alone fiddle with VRs, or "little white wheels"!! When you say "Compliment of equipment" I presume you are referring to all the little mechanical jigs, the scope, a T100?, all the service manuals and the box of calibration tapes, etc. etc. that my father purchased and I have stored away in a rather nice Rosewood box in my other home in South Africa? I am about to have some work done on the ZX7 by Bowers and Wilkins in the UK ( you guys tell me they are good?), if that goes ok The dragon can be next. I was in no way implying that the Aiwa Excelias are better machines than the Naks, but in my opinion "head to head" using the inbuilt noise reduction circuits the Aiwas DBX and its super flat frequency response ( to 21khz +-3db. type 4. verified by the service tech!) is truer to the original, especially with digital sources than MY Naks using inbuilt Dolby. I have little usefull "cassette" tech know-how, only my ears! but I think you might agree that Naks (all the ones I have owned anyway!) tend to sweeten things up a little! This may be, of course due to the azimuth and bias settings having drifted, and I suppose this can be partially corrected before recordings are made, But I don't think the average owner is likely to do this is he? I have, over many years "collected" a pile of so called "hifi" equipment so I can now listen to music the way I want to, to protect my valuable sources I need to record on tape or what have you. I want the playback to be as near to the original as is possible. I use analogue tape recorders to achieve that. but some do better that others. Out of interest this is my order of preference: 1. ReVox B77 half track 7.5 ips r to r. no NR. 2. ReVox B710, extnl DBX. 3. Aiwa Excelia XK009 intnl DBX. 4. Nak Dragon. no NR applied. This is my preference, and I realise others will very much disagree with me, that's life! that's what makes it interesting, OK? I have spent my working life with electro-mechanical machines and electronics and from my experience I can tell you there is no "Ultimate" cassette recorder! each one I own is flawed by design, mechanically or electronically, in some way of another. Even Naks (those bloody orange caps, and cheap pully wheels)! and, dare I say it, the revered Dragon !! -----Original Message----- From: wme drewes [mailto:wdrewes at iafrica.com] Sent: 03 January 2005 16:08 To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: Just wondering when last your Dragon was professionally serviced by people that have the correct calibration and adjustment instruments(including tapes)? Do not let anyone loose on a Dragon who does not have these items.I have 5 Dragons and those that have been serviced by competent people(known for their competence in the trade )but who dont have the full complement of equipment dont sound as well as those that Stephen Sank has serviced! ( The same holds for my CR 7's as well) Bear in mind that those not serviced by Mr Sank still sound superlative! Please dont touch those "white little wheels"if you dont have the equipment for complete adjustments,you might get an improvement on performance,but in all propability a vast amount of further improvement will lie latent in your excellent machine! Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the water lying in waiting) ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Marsh To: naktalk Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:43 PM Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: Don't know about service for the Aiwa F990, but the XK009! that's a different matter. I own both the Aiwa XK007 and 009 EXCELIA decks - I got them from a local auction out of curiosity! As the pair came at a price of only £30.00 UK it was no hardship, I later discovered that both these models seem to be professional models and most found there way into studios as mastering decks. I tried thru Aiwa and Sony to get the machines serviced with no luck, I tried my local repairers - with no luck. I was about to give up and cut my losses but then a friend suggested a studio technician may be my answer, I live in London UK, so there are plenty about! This was the answer! and both machines were duly serviced (together with my two ReVox R to R decks!). Service was good, fast and didn't break the bank. The technician said" the Excelias are easy to work on, parts are not a problem and Excelias tend to be robust and reliable?" Depending on your location, this may be the way to go for the Aiwa XK 009 Excelia.if you are in the UK I can get you in contact with "my man"! All I can say is that it will be worth it! In my opinion both of these Aiwa Excelia decks are very underated machines! They don't appear for sale often in the UK, and are usually studio sales. I recently saw and purchased a second 007 on ebay for £18.00, superbly well maintained in great order as well! For domestic use the only problems I can see are the deepness (they are very deep!). The mains transformers are bolted on the rear panel to isolate any mains hum?, and having to earth the chassis can be awkward. Many are converted to balanced outputs/inputs (one of my 007s and the 009 are) but this is easy to get around. In my opinion, again, both the 007 and 009 tread on my "Dragons" tail and equal the ZX7 when recording and playing back with DBX switched in! and the 009 can "chase the Dragon" and jump ahead of the ZX7 using Dolby C . I had both the 007 and 009 calibrated for TDK SA European stock cassettes that are easy to get here in the UK ( I buy them by the hundred at £50.00 a shot!). I find that with DBX and these tapes the Excelia's are near perfect recording and playing good analogue, and thanks to DBX "kick ass" with digital, Alas my Naks cant do that being restricted to Dolby B/C! Please dont get me wrong! My Naks are some of my favourite babies and always will be, but I think it is fair to say that part of the Naks appeal is due to that "little bit" that is added (Somebody told me it is called "that Nak sound"). and after all they are only cassette decks! and as good as they are, some of my "other babies", ReVox R to Rs, fed with a good tape and analogue source eat the Naks for breakfast! I do hope you have some success with finding a repairer! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========---------------------------------------------------------======= == Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------======= == Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------======= == -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neillipes628 at hotmail.com Tue Jan 4 15:27:58 2005 From: neillipes628 at hotmail.com (neil lipes) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 09:27:58 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] For Alex Message-ID: When I come across recordings that say "re-channeled" for stereo, I simply employ my mode switch on the preamp to the mono position..at least I will hear the music in mono....and boys good mono is excellent! >From: "Nelson" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Alex >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 11:52:05 -0000 > >That's very interesting. I would love to hear that speaker. > >I often record in mono those "stereo effect" recordings that were >originally >mono anyway! They seem to either have rotten sound stages or, if effort >has >gone into recreating a sound stage, they sound too processed and lack good >tonal colour. > >Gra' > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > Behalf Of Alex Cozac > > Sent: 04 January 2005 09:08 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Kermit > > > > > > Only for information; to all our lovely Nak member, I hear using > > my Stereo > > tube/valve equipment only trough ONE speaker, in our family since 1954 > > branded JBL "The Hartsfield" an a ugly;y big horn laded two way 16 Ohms > > speaker cabinet weight 1/4 of ton! Sound since 1954 amazing with > > NO problems > > at all. My Dynaco made by Panor in US during the earlier 90ties > > was rewired > > for a Triode operation 16 watts each channel...wired "Parallel" > > so I get 32 > > watts RMS, my "Hartsfield" has 110-Db efficiency, which is more that > > necessary! Of course...the cassettes trough my Dragon are recorded > > stereo...only the "END" in my system is hear "MONAURAL" > > > > Be well Graham!!! > > > > ALEX! > > > > > > > > >From: "Nelson" > > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Kermit > > >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 01:17:33 -0000 > > > > > >Hi Kermit > > > > > >As an engineer and specialist in recording, do you feel that stereo > > >recording is the best way to capture the purest sound of the voices or > > >instruments, and (of course) the use of stereo amplifiers and speakers >to > > >reproduce it? This may seem like a daft question. However, not so >long > > >ago > > >I was in conversation with a maker of some very hi end kit - that is, >he > > >makes �250-�500 stereo decoders for vintage mono tuners, including the > > >celebrated (in the UK and Australia, at atleast) Leak > > Troughlines. (Leak, > > >by the way, had a Leak branded ski slope cassette deck which was made >for > > >them by Nakamichi.) I said to him my priority was in getting the best > > >reproduction of the tonal quality of the instruments rather than > > building > > >up > > >some artificial "sound stage". It's not that I didn't want "stereo" >but > > >stereo sound is less important to me that getting the sound > > right, so that > > >a > > >wood instruments sounds like a wood instrument, that a Steinberg sounds > > >like > > >a Steinberg and not a Yamaha. His response was that I should forget > > >stereo > > >altogether, that I would never get as good tonal quality to the > > music from > > >any tuner that uses a multiplex decoder. I was, "What, even your �500 > > >model?" He said, "Yes." > > > > > >Gra' > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > >Maintain your account here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! hthttp://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From Modernizy at netscape.net Tue Jan 4 11:50:15 2005 From: Modernizy at netscape.net (Modernizy at netscape.net) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 05:50:15 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Alignment cassettes Message-ID: <48DD599B.46E24620.026D48C1@netscape.net> Hi, István, TEAC test cassettes can be found here: http://www.teac.co.jp/testmedia/eng/products/tape_index.html Cassettes on BASF tape from JRF Magnetics used to be available here: http://www.jrfmagnetics.com/JRF_calalign.html but now their site does not function. I used to get some genuine Nak Calibration tapes from B&W when they sell out their stocks but I'm afraid they all gone now. Regards, Nicholas. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sándor István > To: naktalk at naks.com > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 11:55 AM > Subject: [naktalk] Alignment cassettes > > > Hello all, > > sometimes we speak about alignment cassettes, but I really do not know where to get any. > > Cany you give me some hints? > > I already sent an email to B&W UK, but they think I do not deserve any answer... :-( > > Any comments? > > > Thank you in advance. > István __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp From joelll at genericdomain.net Tue Jan 4 14:36:20 2005 From: joelll at genericdomain.net (Joel Herda) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 08:36:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: [naktalk] Attention Kermit: parts for 600 Message-ID: Kermit, I didn't see your email address in replied-to posts, so I'm sending to the list instead. I have a 600 that I'd like to get rid of; it's yours for the cost of shipping (from Somerville, MA, USA). It's complete and mostly working, but has enough little things wrong with it that I consider it a parts deck (especially because I have enough working decks). Please email me at joelll at genericdomain.net if you're interested. Joel -- Joel Herda joelll at genericdomain.net From Michael.Schreiber at bni.uni-hamburg.de Tue Jan 4 11:34:04 2005 From: Michael.Schreiber at bni.uni-hamburg.de (Michael Schreiber) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 11:34:04 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Alignment cassettes References: Message-ID: <003301c4f248$e9d5b340$08c36486@lab209> Here some links for test tapes: Audio Test Cassette from Teknixs: http://www.electronix.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/7360 Audio Test Cassette from Burosch: http://www.burosch.de/deutsch/shop/index.html Michael Schreiber (My 700zxe works well) ----- Original Message ----- From: Sándor István To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:55 AM Subject: [naktalk] Alignment cassettes Hello all, sometimes we speak about alignment cassettes, but I really do not know where to get any. Cany you give me some hints? I already sent an email to B&W UK, but they think I do not deserve any answer... :-( Any comments? Thank you in advance. István ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bg3009 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 4 13:40:05 2005 From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 04:40:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] For Alex In-Reply-To: <003d01c4f253$d024da60$0a904c51@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <20050104124005.21678.qmail@web41408.mail.yahoo.com> Does combining them have any problems Gra? I have this great Doris Day lp that was processed in stereo and sounds not too good. Bala Nelson wrote: That's very interesting. I would love to hear that speaker. I often record in mono those "stereo effect" recordings that were originally mono anyway! They seem to either have rotten sound stages or, if effort has gone into recreating a sound stage, they sound too processed and lack good tonal colour. Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of Alex Cozac > Sent: 04 January 2005 09:08 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Kermit > > > Only for information; to all our lovely Nak member, I hear using > my Stereo > tube/valve equipment only trough ONE speaker, in our family since 1954 > branded JBL "The Hartsfield" an a ugly;y big horn laded two way 16 Ohms > speaker cabinet weight 1/4 of ton! Sound since 1954 amazing with > NO problems > at all. My Dynaco made by Panor in US during the earlier 90ties > was rewired > for a Triode operation 16 watts each channel...wired "Parallel" > so I get 32 > watts RMS, my "Hartsfield" has 110-Db efficiency, which is more that > necessary! Of course...the cassettes trough my Dragon are recorded > stereo...only the "END" in my system is hear "MONAURAL" > > Be well Graham!!! > > ALEX! > > > > >From: "Nelson" > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Kermit > >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 01:17:33 -0000 > > > >Hi Kermit > > > >As an engineer and specialist in recording, do you feel that stereo > >recording is the best way to capture the purest sound of the voices or > >instruments, and (of course) the use of stereo amplifiers and speakers to > >reproduce it? This may seem like a daft question. However, not so long > >ago > >I was in conversation with a maker of some very hi end kit - that is, he > >makes �250-�500 stereo decoders for vintage mono tuners, including the > >celebrated (in the UK and Australia, at atleast) Leak > Troughlines. (Leak, > >by the way, had a Leak branded ski slope cassette deck which was made for > >them by Nakamichi.) I said to him my priority was in getting the best > >reproduction of the tonal quality of the instruments rather than > building > >up > >some artificial "sound stage". It's not that I didn't want "stereo" but > >stereo sound is less important to me that getting the sound > right, so that > >a > >wood instruments sounds like a wood instrument, that a Steinberg sounds > >like > >a Steinberg and not a Yamaha. His response was that I should forget > >stereo > >altogether, that I would never get as good tonal quality to the > music from > >any tuner that uses a multiplex decoder. I was, "What, even your �500 > >model?" He said, "Yes." > > > >Gra' > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > _________________________________________________________________ > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Excellent!!!...........It really is..............take it from this writer who is on the streets everyday! >From: "Mark Hugo" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: , >Subject: Re: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank >cassette? >Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 06:55:34 +0200 > >Nice one Bart!!!!!!!! > >MH > > >>> bhonhoff at dds.nl 01/03/05 02:54PM >>> > >From Hill Street Blues: > >It's a jungle out there!! ;-) > >Have a nice 2005, > >bart > >Quoting neil lipes : > > > I only have one question to ask any who care to answer: > > > > Why the hell would anybody buy an SUV for NYC, and why are there so >many > > Hummers on the streets here??..... > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > >The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject >to legal privilege. 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Download today - it's FREE! hthttp://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From neillipes628 at hotmail.com Tue Jan 4 15:35:35 2005 From: neillipes628 at hotmail.com (neil lipes) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 09:35:35 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? Message-ID: Yes....... sorry fellows, but the amount of testosterone on NYC streets is overwhelming!.....and sorry but, what is with all the females that are 5 foot tall behind the wheels of these monsters??? I guess the operative word is a INTIMIDATE! Those vehicles are a menace no two ways about it. N >From: "Mark Hugo" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: , >Subject: RE: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank >cassette? >Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 06:56:49 +0200 > >You continue to teach me to stop beating around the bush Gra'!!! > >Marc > > >>> graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk 01/03/05 02:48PM >>> >Answer: Penis Envy! (Freud) > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > Behalf Of neil lipes > > Sent: 02 January 2005 19:42 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a >blank > > cassette? > > > > > > I only have one question to ask any who care to answer: > > > > Why the hell would anybody buy an SUV for NYC, and why are there so >many > > Hummers on the streets here??..... > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > >The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject >to legal privilege. 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István ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Schreiber To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Alignment cassettes Here some links for test tapes: Audio Test Cassette from Teknixs: http://www.electronix.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/7360 Audio Test Cassette from Burosch: http://www.burosch.de/deutsch/shop/index.html Michael Schreiber (My 700zxe works well) ----- Original Message ----- From: Sándor István To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:55 AM Subject: [naktalk] Alignment cassettes Hello all, sometimes we speak about alignment cassettes, but I really do not know where to get any. Cany you give me some hints? I already sent an email to B&W UK, but they think I do not deserve any answer... :-( Any comments? Thank you in advance. 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URL: From wdrewes at iafrica.com Tue Jan 4 16:42:44 2005 From: wdrewes at iafrica.com (wdrewes at iafrica.com) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 17:42:44 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like References: <20050104082611.97168.qmail@web41412.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <006e01c4f274$09735ce0$4b85fea9@drewes> To execute a testamentary bequest from the tip of Africa for Graham in the UK is nearly as difficult as maintaining a 1000ZXL anywhere in the world! So Alex I think Graham must expect a pass on that one! Of the 4 CR7's I bought in the last 2 years or so THREE had no cassette well doors! What people do with the CR7 doors worldwide I have not been able to figure out.I only have three left and am still looking for a CR7 door for one of them.(CR 5 also fits,but the other CR series do not) So if anyone finds one ,they will know were to post them to at a profit! I dont think I will not acquire more Dragons as these are enough to handle!I wont need more as spares,as I have a complete ,brand spankin new factory cassette drive with all its whistles from the factory for this purpose! Let nobody feel sad that he has no more of them themselves.Imagine having to handle 5 wives--although 5 Dragons may be more complient and easier! Walter ----- Original Message ----- From: Bala Ganesh Chandra To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:26 AM Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: This five dragon stack has created some craze here hasnt it? When I was much much younger, and the only reel deck was my dad's X1000R (which was rotting away in pieces), he saw about 15 of these decks in a store, working. Unfortuntely, the store was selling electronics. It was buying scrap metal. Bala Alex Cozac wrote: Walter!!!! Don't wait till you pass away..SENT one of your collected Dragons to Graham...so HE will live eternity!!!! Good Luck Graham!!!!!! ALEX! >From: "Nelson" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:14:01 -0000 > >Indeed! How does one ingratiate oneself into your favour, Walter, so that >one might have a Dragon bequeathed in your Will? > >Grinham > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On >Behalf >Of Sándor István > Sent: 03 January 2005 16:51 > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >! Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > Hello Walter! > "Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the water lying >in >waiting)" > > Are you waiting for your sixth Dragon? Unbelievable... :-))) > How many CR7s do you have? > > I am really envy of you... ;-) > > Happy New Year! > István > ----- Original Message ----- > From: wme drewes > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:07 PM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > Just wondering when last your Dragon was professionally serviced by >people that have the correct calibration and adjustment >instruments(including tapes)? Do not let anyone loose on a Dragon who does >not have these items.I have 5 Dragons and those that have been serviced by >competent people(known for their competen! ce in the trade )but who dont have >the full complement of equipment dont sound as well as those that Stephen >Sank has serviced! ( The same holds for my CR 7's as well) Bear in mind >that >those not serviced by Mr Sank still sound superlative! Please dont touch >those "white little wheels"if you dont have the equipment for complete >adjustments,you might get an improvement on performance,but in all >propability a vast amount of further improvement will lie latent in your >excellent machine! > Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the water lying >in >waiting) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Colin Marsh > To: naktalk > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:43 PM > Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > Don't know about service for the Aiwa F990, but the XK009! that's a >different matter. I own both the Aiwa XK007 and 009 EXCEL! IA decks - I got >them from a local auction out of curiosity! As the pair came at a price of >only £30.00 UK it was no hardship, I later discovered that both these >models seem to be professional models and most found there way into studios >as mastering decks. I tried thru Aiwa and Sony to get the machines >serviced >with no luck, I tried my local repairers - with no luck. I was about to >give up and cut my losses but then a friend suggested a studio technician >may be my answer, I live in London UK, so there are plenty about! This >was >the answer! and both machines were duly serviced (together with my two >ReVox >R to R decks!). Service was good, fast and didn't break the bank. The >technician said" the Excelias are easy to work on, parts are not a problem >and Excelias tend to be robust and reliable?" > Depending on your location, this may be the way to go for the Aiwa >XK >! 009 Excelia.if you are in the UK I can get you in contact with "my man"! >All I can say is that it will be worth it! > In my opinion both of these Aiwa Excelia decks are very underated >machines! They don't appear for sale often in the UK, and are usually >studio sales. I recently saw and purchased a second 007 on ebay for >£18.00, >superbly well maintained in great order as well! For domestic use the only >problems I can see are the deepness (they are very deep!). The mains >transformers are bolted on the rear panel to isolate any mains hum?, and >having to earth the chassis can be awkward. Many are converted to balanced >outputs/inputs (one of my 007s and the 009 are) but this is easy to get >around. > In my opinion, again, both the 007 and 009 tread on my "Dragons" >tail >and equal the ZX7 when recording and playing back with DBX switched in! >and >the 009 can "chase the Dragon! " and jump ahead of the ZX7 using Dolby C . >I >had both the 007 and 009 calibrated for TDK SA European stock cassettes >that >are easy to get here in the UK ( I buy them by the hundred at £50.00 a >shot!). I find that with DBX and these tapes the Excelia's are near >perfect recording and playing good analogue, and thanks to DBX "kick ass" >with digital, Alas my Naks cant do that being restricted to Dolby B/C! > Please dont get me wrong! My Naks are some of my favourite babies >and >always will be, but I think it is fair to say that part of the Naks appeal >is due to that "little bit" that is added (Somebody told me it is called >"that Nak sound"). and after all they are only cassette decks! and as >good >as they are, some of my "other babies", ReVox R to Rs, fed with a good tape >and analogue source eat the Naks for breakfast! > I do hope you have some success with finding a repairer! > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Main! tain your account here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alexcozac at hotmail.com Tue Jan 4 16:55:52 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:55:52 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: FAO Walter. Message-ID: Dear Colin! Really I can't understand, that so little used Dragon...was so "ILL"..that was serviced to often???? ALEX! >From: "Colin Marsh" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: FAO Walter. >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 10:33:50 -0000 > > >Walter >The Dragon I was referring to was owned by my father from new in the early >1990's untill it came to me 2 years ago. Although it had little use, it >was >serviced yearly by authorised Nak techs in South Africa, later in Japan and >finally two years ago in Germany. I myself would never even take the covers >off, let alone fiddle with VRs, or "little white wheels"!! When you say >"Compliment of equipment" I presume you are referring to all the little >mechanical jigs, the scope, a T100?, all the service manuals and the box >of >calibration tapes, etc. etc. that my father purchased and I have stored >away >in a rather nice Rosewood box in my other home in South Africa? I am about >to have some work done on the ZX7 by Bowers and Wilkins in the UK ( you >guys >tell me they are good?), if that goes ok The dragon can be next. I was >in no way implying that the Aiwa Excelias are better machines than the >Naks, >but in my opinion "head to head" using the inbuilt noise reduction circuits >the Aiwas DBX and its super flat frequency response ( to 21khz +-3db. type >4. verified by the service tech!) is truer to the original, especially with >digital sources than MY Naks using inbuilt Dolby. I have little usefull >"cassette" tech know-how, only my ears! but I think you might agree that >Naks (all the ones I have owned anyway!) tend to sweeten things up a >little! >This may be, of course due to the azimuth and bias settings having drifted, >and I suppose this can be partially corrected before recordings are made, >But I don't think the average owner is likely to do this is he? I have, >over >many years "collected" a pile of so called "hifi" equipment so I can now >listen to music the way I want to, to protect my valuable sources I need to >record on tape or what have you. I want the playback to be as near to the >original as is possible. I use analogue tape recorders to achieve that. but >some do better that others. Out of interest this is my order of preference: >1. ReVox B77 half track 7.5 ips r to r. no NR. 2. ReVox B710, extnl >DBX. 3. Aiwa Excelia XK009 intnl DBX. 4. Nak Dragon. no NR applied. >This >is my preference, and I realise others will very much disagree with me, >that's life! that's what makes it interesting, OK? I have spent my >working life with electro-mechanical machines and electronics and from my >experience I can tell you there is no "Ultimate" cassette recorder! each >one I own is flawed by design, mechanically or electronically, in some way >of another. Even Naks (those bloody orange caps, and cheap pully wheels)! >and, dare I say it, the revered Dragon !! > -----Original Message----- > From: wme drewes [mailto:wdrewes at iafrica.com] > Sent: 03 January 2005 16:08 > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > Just wondering when last your Dragon was professionally serviced by >people >that have the correct calibration and adjustment instruments(including >tapes)? Do not let anyone loose on a Dragon who does not have these items.I >have 5 Dragons and those that have been serviced by competent people(known >for their competence in the trade )but who dont have the full complement of >equipment dont sound as well as those that Stephen Sank has serviced! ( The >same holds for my CR 7's as well) Bear in mind that those not serviced by >Mr >Sank still sound superlative! Please dont touch those "white little >wheels"if you dont have the equipment for complete adjustments,you might >get >an improvement on performance,but in all propability a vast amount of >further improvement will lie latent in your excellent machine! > Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the water lying in >waiting) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Colin Marsh > To: naktalk > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:43 PM > Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > Don't know about service for the Aiwa F990, but the XK009! that's a >different matter. I own both the Aiwa XK007 and 009 EXCELIA decks - I got >them from a local auction out of curiosity! As the pair came at a price of >only �30.00 UK it was no hardship, I later discovered that both these >models seem to be professional models and most found there way into studios >as mastering decks. I tried thru Aiwa and Sony to get the machines >serviced >with no luck, I tried my local repairers - with no luck. I was about to >give up and cut my losses but then a friend suggested a studio technician >may be my answer, I live in London UK, so there are plenty about! This >was >the answer! and both machines were duly serviced (together with my two >ReVox >R to R decks!). Service was good, fast and didn't break the bank. The >technician said" the Excelias are easy to work on, parts are not a problem >and Excelias tend to be robust and reliable?" > Depending on your location, this may be the way to go for the Aiwa XK >009 Excelia.if you are in the UK I can get you in contact with "my man"! >All I can say is that it will be worth it! > In my opinion both of these Aiwa Excelia decks are very underated >machines! They don't appear for sale often in the UK, and are usually >studio sales. I recently saw and purchased a second 007 on ebay for >�18.00, >superbly well maintained in great order as well! For domestic use the only >problems I can see are the deepness (they are very deep!). The mains >transformers are bolted on the rear panel to isolate any mains hum?, and >having to earth the chassis can be awkward. Many are converted to balanced >outputs/inputs (one of my 007s and the 009 are) but this is easy to get >around. > In my opinion, again, both the 007 and 009 tread on my "Dragons" tail >and equal the ZX7 when recording and playing back with DBX switched in! >and >the 009 can "chase the Dragon" and jump ahead of the ZX7 using Dolby C . >I >had both the 007 and 009 calibrated for TDK SA European stock cassettes >that >are easy to get here in the UK ( I buy them by the hundred at �50.00 a >shot!). I find that with DBX and these tapes the Excelia's are near >perfect recording and playing good analogue, and thanks to DBX "kick ass" >with digital, Alas my Naks cant do that being restricted to Dolby B/C! > Please dont get me wrong! My Naks are some of my favourite babies and >always will be, but I think it is fair to say that part of the Naks appeal >is due to that "little bit" that is added (Somebody told me it is called >"that Nak sound"). and after all they are only cassette decks! and as >good >as they are, some of my "other babies", ReVox R to Rs, fed with a good tape >and analogue source eat the Naks for breakfast! > I do hope you have some success with finding a repairer! > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------======= >== > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > >========---------------------------------------------------------======= >== > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >========---------------------------------------------------------======= >== >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Tue Jan 4 16:33:55 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:33:55 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] For Alex In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <007c01c4f272$cd37db80$0a904c51@oemcomputer> I agree. My best piano recording is not on CD and is not a "modern" stereo vinyl record but a late 1950s/early 1960s mono record. Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of neil lipes > Sent: 04 January 2005 14:28 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Alex > > > When I come across recordings that say "re-channeled" for stereo, > I simply > employ my mode switch on the preamp to the mono position..at least I will > hear the music in mono....and boys good mono is excellent! > > From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Tue Jan 4 16:33:57 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:33:57 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] For Alex In-Reply-To: <20050104124005.21678.qmail@web41408.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <007d01c4f272$ce1b36a0$0a904c51@oemcomputer> My guess is that, if you used a mono record cartridge, or a mono converter, pre to the amp, it may sound better. However, in my experience a lot of reprocessed records, especially copies of ones produced before around 1955, were recopied without compensating for the original recording's equalisation. In other words, there are a lot of records our there that are not RAA but some non-standard setting. For example, I have a 1930's swing jazz set of LPs by Readers Digest that have been "stereo enhanced" (yuck!) that you'd expect to play at today's RAA standard. However, if you do so they sound very much like the originals would do through a modern phono section of an amplifier - i.e. rather veiled. Now, having recently bought a Graham Slee "Jazz Club" phono stage, I am able to choose between several equalisation settings. In this instance, I selected the setting which would have been correct for the original 1930's recordings, which is not RAA. I can tell you the sound is much improved, much less veiled, although the Graham Slee cannot do much about the extra compression of the dynamic range that crept into this 1970's copy!! Gra' -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Bala Ganesh Chandra Sent: 04 January 2005 12:40 To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Alex Does combining them have any problems Gra? I have this great Doris Day lp that was processed in stereo and sounds not too good. Bala Nelson wrote: That's very interesting. I would love to hear that speaker. I often record in mono those "stereo effect" recordings that were originally mono anyway! They seem to either have rotten sound stages or, if effort has gone into recreating a sound stage, they sound too processed and lack good tonal colour. Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of Alex Cozac > Sent: 04 January 2005 09:08 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Kermit > > > Only for information; to all our lovely Nak member, I hear using > my Stereo > tube/valve equipment only trough ONE speaker, in our family since 1954 > branded JBL "The Hartsfield" an a ugly;y big horn laded two way 16 Ohms > speaker cabinet weight 1/4! of ton! Sound since 1954 amazing with > NO problems > at all. My Dynaco made by Panor in US during the earlier 90ties > was rewired > for a Triode operation 16 watts each channel...wired "Parallel" > so I get 32 > watts RMS, my "Hartsfield" has 110-Db efficiency, which is more that > necessary! Of course...the cassettes trough my Dragon are recorded > stereo...only the "END" in my system is hear "MONAURAL" > > Be well Graham!!! > > ALEX! > > > > >From: "Nelson" > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Kermit > >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 01:17:33 -0000 > > > >Hi Kermit > > > >As an engineer and specialist in recording, do you feel that stereo > >recording is ! the best way to capture the purest sound of the voices or > >instruments, and (of course) the use of stereo amplifiers and speakers to > >reproduce it? This may seem like a daft question. However, not so long > >ago > >I was in conversation with a maker of some very hi end kit - that is, he > >makes £250-£500 stereo decoders for vintage mono tuners, including the > >celebrated (in the UK and Australia, at atleast) Leak > Troughlines. (Leak, > >by the way, had a Leak branded ski slope cassette deck which was made for > >them by Nakamichi.) I said to him my priority was in getting the best > >reproduction of the tonal quality of the instruments rather than > building > >up > >some artificial "sound stage". It's not that I didn't want "stereo" but > >stereo sound is less important to me that getting the sound > right, so that > >a > >wood instr! uments sounds like a wood instrument, that a Steinberg sounds > >like > >a Steinberg and not a Yamaha. His response was that I should forget > >stereo > >altogether, that I would never get as good tonal quality to the > music from > >any tuner that uses a multiplex decoder. I was, "What, even your £500 > >model?" He said, "Yes." > > > >Gra' > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > _________________________________________________________________ > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Tue Jan 4 16:39:19 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:39:19 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like In-Reply-To: <006e01c4f274$09735ce0$4b85fea9@drewes> Message-ID: <008901c4f273$8e0b90e0$0a904c51@oemcomputer> Walter said: "What people do with the CR7 doors worldwide I have not been able to figure out." Ah! They have been assembled by Tracy Emmin into a modern art sculpture entitled "Nakophilia", currently on show at the Satchi Gallery, and entered into The Turner Art competition. She'll probably win. Gra' -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of wdrewes at iafrica.com Sent: 04 January 2005 15:43 To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like To execute a testamentary bequest from the tip of Africa for Graham in the UK is nearly as difficult as maintaining a 1000ZXL anywhere in the world! So Alex I think Graham must expect a pass on that one! Of the 4 CR7's I bought in the last 2 years or so THREE had no cassette well doors! What people do with the CR7 doors worldwide I have not been able to figure out.I only have three left and am still looking for a CR7 door for one of them.(CR 5 also fits,but the other CR series do not) So if anyone finds one ,they will know were to post them to at a profit! I dont think I will not acquire more Dragons as these are enough to handle!I wont need more as spares,as I have a complete ,brand spankin new factory cassette drive with all its whistles from the factory for this purpose! Let nobody feel sad that he has no more of them themselves.Imagine having to handle 5 wives--although 5 Dragons may be more complient and easier! Walter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alexcozac at hotmail.com Tue Jan 4 17:01:26 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 18:01:26 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] For Kermit Message-ID: Dear Bala! Sorry but... I DON'T AGREED! Today I use also from my family a McIntosh MR-78 with his originally walnut cabinet in our family since 1974...UNTOUCHED SINCE THEN...! and such newer "Digitally" tuner...sorry to write is simple a "SHIT"...in sound quality!!! ALEX! >From: Bala Ganesh Chandra >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Kermit >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 00:48:22 -0800 (PST) > >Hi Graham, and Kermit, > > I am not quite suprised by the encounter. Many times, these >days, people get mixed with a good sound, and a true sound. My preference >is for something which I can sit down, and listen for hours at end, and >sounds natural. Almost, as if, the singer was there. That is true sound. I >realize that sometimes, this results in a mellow, and 'warm' sound with a >slight rolled of treble.. as some describe. Recently, I went thru a debate >of two sister tuner models made by the same company. They both employ the >same audio section, but the IF and filters are totally different. When new, >the cheaper one went for USD 700. The more advanced IF version cost a full >USD1700! When compared side by side, the costlier version seems to >outshine, with a clearer sound, better treble and so on. Its so good, you >can plug out the antannae cable and this baby would still pull stations >with a good signal strength! (In case you guys out there wonder, this was >the tuner that ousted the Marantz 10! > B). The > cheaper one had to have a good and strong signal. Yet, 30 years after all >that, today the designer is helping people upgrade the more expensive tuner >to have a similiar sonic signature to the cheaper tuner! Reason? I put back >both tuners and when I listen carefully, the cheaper one, with a simpler >filter and all that was more relaxed, more natural and had the most >beautiful violins I ever heard on the airwaves. > >There are more examples when more money does not mean better sound ( point >is what do we define as good sound?). But then again, money put in the >right places, might yield what I'd call a true sound. In case guys out >there are interested, I am considering plans to incorporate tubes in my Nak >680. > >Bala > >Nelson wrote: >Hi Kermit > >As an engineer and specialist in recording, do you feel that stereo >recording is the best way to capture the purest sound of the voices or >instruments, and (of course) the use of stereo amplifiers and speakers to >reproduce it? This may seem like a daft question. However, not so long ago >I was in conversation with a maker of some very hi end kit - that is, he >makes �250-�500 stereo decoders for vintage mono tuners, including the >celebrated (in the UK and Australia, at atleast) Leak Troughlines. (Leak, >by the way, had a Leak branded ski slope cassette deck which was made for >them by Nakamichi.) I said to him my priority was in getting the best >reproduction of the tonal quality of the instruments rather than building >up >some artificial "sound stage". It's not that I didn't want "stereo" but >stereo sound is less important to me that getting the sound right, so that >a >wood instruments sounds like a wood instrument, that a Steinberg sounds >like >a Steinberg and not a Yamaha. His response was that I should forget stereo >altogether, that I would never get as good tonal quality to the music from >any tuner that uses a multiplex decoder. I was, "What, even your �500 >model?" He said, "Yes." > >Gra' > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= >Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= >Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From alexcozac at hotmail.com Tue Jan 4 17:05:39 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 18:05:39 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like Message-ID: Walter I love your superb humor!!! Bravo!!! I agreed you NO need spare parts for your Dragons, One for "Spare Parts"...so the other 4 can survive!!! Cheers, ALEX! >From: >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Subject: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 17:42:44 +0200 > >To execute a testamentary bequest from the tip of Africa for Graham in the >UK is nearly as difficult as maintaining a 1000ZXL anywhere in the world! >So Alex I think Graham must expect a pass on that one! >Of the 4 CR7's I bought in the last 2 years or so THREE had no cassette >well doors! What people do with the CR7 doors worldwide I have not been >able to figure out.I only have three left and am still looking for a CR7 >door for one of them.(CR 5 also fits,but the other CR series do not) So if >anyone finds one ,they will know were to post them to at a profit! >I dont think I will not acquire more Dragons as these are enough to >handle!I wont need more as spares,as I have a complete ,brand spankin new >factory cassette drive with all its whistles from the factory for this >purpose! >Let nobody feel sad that he has no more of them themselves.Imagine having >to handle 5 wives--although 5 Dragons may be more complient and easier! >Walter > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bala Ganesh Chandra > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:26 AM > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > This five dragon stack has created some craze here hasnt it? When I was >much much younger, and the only reel deck was my dad's X1000R (which was >rotting away in pieces), he saw about 15 of these decks in a store, >working. Unfortuntely, the store was selling electronics. It was buying >scrap metal. > > Bala > > Alex Cozac wrote: > Walter!!!! Don't wait till you pass away..SENT one of your collected >Dragons > to Graham...so HE will live eternity!!!! > > Good Luck Graham!!!!!! > > ALEX! > > > > >From: "Nelson" > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:14:01 -0000 > > > >Indeed! How does one ingratiate oneself into your favour, Walter, so >that > >one might have a Dragon bequeathed in your Will? > > > >Grinham > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > >Behalf > >Of S�ndor Istv�n > > Sent: 03 January 2005 16:51 > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >! Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > Hello Walter! > > "Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the water >lying > >in > >waiting)" > > > > Are you waiting for your sixth Dragon? Unbelievable... :-))) > > How many CR7s do you have? > > > > I am really envy of you... ;-) > > > > Happy New Year! > > Istv�n > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: wme drewes > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:07 PM > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > Just wondering when last your Dragon was professionally serviced by > >people that have the correct calibration and adjustment > >instruments(including tapes)? Do not let anyone loose on a Dragon who >does > >not have these items.I have 5 Dragons and those that have been >serviced by > >competent people(known for their competen! ce in the trade )but who >dont have > >the full complement of equipment dont sound as well as those that >Stephen > >Sank has serviced! ( The same holds for my CR 7's as well) Bear in >mind > >that > >those not serviced by Mr Sank still sound superlative! Please dont >touch > >those "white little wheels"if you dont have the equipment for >complete > >adjustments,you might get an improvement on performance,but in all > >propability a vast amount of further improvement will lie latent in >your > >excellent machine! > > Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the water >lying > >in > >waiting) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Colin Marsh > > To: naktalk > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:43 PM > > Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > Don't know about service for the Aiwa F990, but the XK009! that's a > >different matter. I own both the Aiwa XK007 and 009 EXCEL! IA decks - >I got > >them from a local auction out of curiosity! As the pair came at a >price of > >only �30.00 UK it was no hardship, I later discovered that both these > >models seem to be professional models and most found there way into >studios > >as mastering decks. I tried thru Aiwa and Sony to get the machines > >serviced > >with no luck, I tried my local repairers - with no luck. I was about >to > >give up and cut my losses but then a friend suggested a studio >technician > >may be my answer, I live in London UK, so there are plenty about! >This > >was > >the answer! and both machines were duly serviced (together with my >two > >ReVox > >R to R decks!). Service was good, fast and didn't break the bank. The > >technician said" the Excelias are easy to work on, parts are not a >problem > >and Excelias tend to be robust and reliable?" > > Depending on your location, this may be the way to go for the Aiwa > >XK > >! 009 Excelia.if you are in the UK I can get you in contact with "my >man"! > >All I can say is that it will be worth it! > > In my opinion both of these Aiwa Excelia decks are very underated > >machines! They don't appear for sale often in the UK, and are usually > >studio sales. I recently saw and purchased a second 007 on ebay for > >�18.00, > >superbly well maintained in great order as well! For domestic use the >only > >problems I can see are the deepness (they are very deep!). The mains > >transformers are bolted on the rear panel to isolate any mains hum?, >and > >having to earth the chassis can be awkward. Many are converted to >balanced > >outputs/inputs (one of my 007s and the 009 are) but this is easy to >get > >around. > > In my opinion, again, both the 007 and 009 tread on my "Dragons" > >tail > >and equal the ZX7 when recording and playing back with DBX switched >in! > >and > >the 009 can "chase the Dragon! " and jump ahead of the ZX7 using >Dolby C . > >I > >had both the 007 and 009 calibrated for TDK SA European stock >cassettes > >that > >are easy to get here in the UK ( I buy them by the hundred at �50.00 >a > >shot!). I find that with DBX and these tapes the Excelia's are near > >perfect recording and playing good analogue, and thanks to DBX "kick >ass" > >with digital, Alas my Naks cant do that being restricted to Dolby >B/C! > > Please dont get me wrong! My Naks are some of my favourite babies > >and > >always will be, but I think it is fair to say that part of the Naks >appeal > >is due to that "little bit" that is added (Somebody told me it is >called > >"that Nak sound"). and after all they are only cassette decks! and as > >good > >as they are, some of my "other babies", ReVox R to Rs, fed with a >good tape > >and analogue source eat the Naks for breakfast! > > I do hope you have some success with finding a repairer! > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > Maintain your account here: > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > Main! tain your account here: > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > >Maintain your account here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > _________________________________________________________________ > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From alexcozac at hotmail.com Tue Jan 4 17:17:58 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 18:17:58 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] For Alex Message-ID: Hi Graham! No, Mono cartridges; I always use Stereo Ortofon cartridges, like my lovely passed away Dad. Today mounted on my vintage Technics SL-120 DD turntable, in a Rega RB-300 arm a Ortofon Jubilee "Top of the Line" MC cartridge. As I always learn from my Daddy that the best cartridge will longer the life of any record...and THAT is certainly TRUE. Happy Listening, ALEX! >From: "Nelson" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Alex >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:33:57 -0000 > >My guess is that, if you used a mono record cartridge, or a mono converter, >pre to the amp, it may sound better. However, in my experience a lot of >reprocessed records, especially copies of ones produced before around 1955, >were recopied without compensating for the original recording's >equalisation. In other words, there are a lot of records our there that >are >not RAA but some non-standard setting. For example, I have a 1930's swing >jazz set of LPs by Readers Digest that have been "stereo enhanced" (yuck!) >that you'd expect to play at today's RAA standard. However, if you do so >they sound very much like the originals would do through a modern phono >section of an amplifier - i.e. rather veiled. Now, having recently bought >a >Graham Slee "Jazz Club" phono stage, I am able to choose between several >equalisation settings. In this instance, I selected the setting which >would >have been correct for the original 1930's recordings, which is not RAA. I >can tell you the sound is much improved, much less veiled, although the >Graham Slee cannot do much about the extra compression of the dynamic range >that crept into this 1970's copy!! > >Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On >Behalf >Of Bala Ganesh Chandra > Sent: 04 January 2005 12:40 > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Alex > > > Does combining them have any problems Gra? I have this great Doris Day >lp >that was processed in stereo and sounds not too good. > > Bala > > Nelson wrote: > That's very interesting. I would love to hear that speaker. > > I often record in mono those "stereo effect" recordings that were >originally > mono anyway! They seem to either have rotten sound stages or, if >effort >has > gone into recreating a sound stage, they sound too processed and lack >good > tonal colour. > > Gra' > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > Behalf Of Alex Cozac > > Sent: 04 January 2005 09:08 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Kermit > > > > > > Only for information; to all our lovely Nak member, I hear using > > my Stereo > > tube/valve equipment only trough ONE speaker, in our family since >1954 > > branded JBL "The Hartsfield" an a ugly;y big horn laded two way 16 >Ohms > > speaker cabinet weight 1/4! of ton! Sound since 1954 amazing with > > NO problems > > at all. My Dynaco made by Panor in US during the earlier 90ties > > was rewired > > for a Triode operation 16 watts each channel...wired "Parallel" > > so I get 32 > > watts RMS, my "Hartsfield" has 110-Db efficiency, which is more that > > necessary! Of course...the cassettes trough my Dragon are recorded > > stereo...only the "END" in my system is hear "MONAURAL" > > > > Be well Graham!!! > > > > ALEX! > > > > > > > > >From: "Nelson" > > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Kermit > > >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 01:17:33 -0000 > > > > > >Hi Kermit > > > > > >As an engineer and specialist in recording, do you feel that stereo > > >recording is ! the best way to capture the purest sound of the >voices >or > > >instruments, and (of course) the use of stereo amplifiers and >speakers to > > >reproduce it? This may seem like a daft question. However, not so >long > > >ago > > >I was in conversation with a maker of some very hi end kit - that >is, >he > > >makes �250-�500 stereo decoders for vintage mono tuners, including >the > > >celebrated (in the UK and Australia, at atleast) Leak > > Troughlines. (Leak, > > >by the way, had a Leak branded ski slope cassette deck which was >made >for > > >them by Nakamichi.) I said to him my priority was in getting the >best > > >reproduction of the tonal quality of the instruments rather than > > building > > >up > > >some artificial "sound stage". It's not that I didn't want "stereo" >but > > >stereo sound is less important to me that getting the sound > > right, so that > > >a > > >wood instr! uments sounds like a wood instrument, that a Steinberg >sounds > > >like > > >a Steinberg and not a Yamaha. His response was that I should forget > > >stereo > > >altogether, that I would never get as good tonal quality to the > > music from > > >any tuner that uses a multiplex decoder. I was, "What, even your >�500 > > >model?" He said, "Yes." > > > > > >Gra' > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > >Maintain your account here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > Maintain your account here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-- > Do you Yahoo!? > Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.com/ From lists at richardhess.com Tue Jan 4 20:06:13 2005 From: lists at richardhess.com (Richard L. Hess) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 14:06:13 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like In-Reply-To: <006e01c4f274$09735ce0$4b85fea9@drewes> References: <20050104082611.97168.qmail@web41412.mail.yahoo.com> <006e01c4f274$09735ce0$4b85fea9@drewes> Message-ID: <1104865573.41dae9257c848@www.richardhess.com> Walter, Glad to meet someone else with 5 Dragons -- I have four here and a fifth waiting for me in Los Angeles. I, too, have an NOS spare Dragon mechanism. Funny coincidence. I don't have any CR7s, but I have an MR-1 for varispeed and recording. I also keep a bunch of Sony APR-5003V, Studer A810, and Studer A807s running as well as the only Sony APR-16 ever made. For old photos see http://www.richardhess.com/tape/facility.htm New photos coming...sometime. Cheers, Richard -- Richard L. Hess http://www.richardhess.com/ Quoting wdrewes at iafrica.com: > To execute a testamentary bequest from the tip of Africa for Graham in the UK > is nearly as difficult as maintaining a 1000ZXL anywhere in the world! So > Alex I think Graham must expect a pass on that one! > Of the 4 CR7's I bought in the last 2 years or so THREE had no cassette well > doors! What people do with the CR7 doors worldwide I have not been able to > figure out.I only have three left and am still looking for a CR7 door for one > of them.(CR 5 also fits,but the other CR series do not) So if anyone finds > one ,they will know were to post them to at a profit! > I dont think I will not acquire more Dragons as these are enough to > handle!I wont need more as spares,as I have a complete ,brand spankin new > factory cassette drive with all its whistles from the factory for this > purpose! > Let nobody feel sad that he has no more of them themselves.Imagine having to > handle 5 wives--although 5 Dragons may be more complient and easier! > Walter > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bala Ganesh Chandra > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:26 AM > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > This five dragon stack has created some craze here hasnt it? When I was > much much younger, and the only reel deck was my dad's X1000R (which was > rotting away in pieces), he saw about 15 of these decks in a store, working. > Unfortuntely, the store was selling electronics. It was buying scrap metal. > > Bala > > Alex Cozac wrote: > Walter!!!! Don't wait till you pass away..SENT one of your collected > Dragons > to Graham...so HE will live eternity!!!! > > Good Luck Graham!!!!!! > > ALEX! > > > > >From: "Nelson" > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:14:01 -0000 > > > >Indeed! How does one ingratiate oneself into your favour, Walter, so > that > >one might have a Dragon bequeathed in your Will? > > > >Grinham > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > >Behalf > >Of Sándor István > > Sent: 03 January 2005 16:51 > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >! Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > Hello Walter! > > "Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the water lying > >in > >waiting)" > > > > Are you waiting for your sixth Dragon? Unbelievable... :-))) > > How many CR7s do you have? > > > > I am really envy of you... ;-) > > > > Happy New Year! > > István > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: wme drewes > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:07 PM > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > Just wondering when last your Dragon was professionally serviced by > >people that have the correct calibration and adjustment > >instruments(including tapes)? Do not let anyone loose on a Dragon who > does > >not have these items.I have 5 Dragons and those that have been serviced > by > >competent people(known for their competen! ce in the trade )but who dont > have > >the full complement of equipment dont sound as well as those that > Stephen > >Sank has serviced! ( The same holds for my CR 7's as well) Bear in mind > >that > >those not serviced by Mr Sank still sound superlative! Please dont touch > >those "white little wheels"if you dont have the equipment for complete > >adjustments,you might get an improvement on performance,but in all > >propability a vast amount of further improvement will lie latent in your > >excellent machine! > > Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the water lying > >in > >waiting) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Colin Marsh > > To: naktalk > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:43 PM > > Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > Don't know about service for the Aiwa F990, but the XK009! that's a > >different matter. I own both the Aiwa XK007 and 009 EXCEL! IA decks - I > got > >them from a local auction out of curiosity! As the pair came at a price > of > >only £30.00 UK it was no hardship, I later discovered that both these > >models seem to be professional models and most found there way into > studios > >as mastering decks. I tried thru Aiwa and Sony to get the machines > >serviced > >with no luck, I tried my local repairers - with no luck. I was about to > >give up and cut my losses but then a friend suggested a studio > technician > >may be my answer, I live in London UK, so there are plenty about! This > >was > >the answer! and both machines were duly serviced (together with my two > >ReVox > >R to R decks!). Service was good, fast and didn't break the bank. The > >technician said" the Excelias are easy to work on, parts are not a > problem > >and Excelias tend to be robust and reliable?" > > Depending on your location, this may be the way to go for the Aiwa > >XK > >! 009 Excelia.if you are in the UK I can get you in contact with "my > man"! > >All I can say is that it will be worth it! > > In my opinion both of these Aiwa Excelia decks are very underated > >machines! They don't appear for sale often in the UK, and are usually > >studio sales. I recently saw and purchased a second 007 on ebay for > >£18.00, > >superbly well maintained in great order as well! For domestic use the > only > >problems I can see are the deepness (they are very deep!). The mains > >transformers are bolted on the rear panel to isolate any mains hum?, and > >having to earth the chassis can be awkward. Many are converted to > balanced > >outputs/inputs (one of my 007s and the 009 are) but this is easy to get > >around. > > In my opinion, again, both the 007 and 009 tread on my "Dragons" > >tail > >and equal the ZX7 when recording and playing back with DBX switched in! > >and > >the 009 can "chase the Dragon! " and jump ahead of the ZX7 using Dolby C > . > >I > >had both the 007 and 009 calibrated for TDK SA European stock cassettes > >that > >are easy to get here in the UK ( I buy them by the hundred at £50.00 a > >shot!). I find that with DBX and these tapes the Excelia's are near > >perfect recording and playing good analogue, and thanks to DBX "kick > ass" > >with digital, Alas my Naks cant do that being restricted to Dolby B/C! > > Please dont get me wrong! My Naks are some of my favourite babies > >and > >always will be, but I think it is fair to say that part of the Naks > appeal > >is due to that "little bit" that is added (Somebody told me it is called > >"that Nak sound"). and after all they are only cassette decks! and as > >good > >as they are, some of my "other babies", ReVox R to Rs, fed with a good > tape > >and analogue source eat the Naks for breakfast! > > I do hope you have some success with finding a repairer! > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > Maintain your account here: > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > Main! tain your account here: > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > _________________________________________________________________ > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From p9019 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 4 20:30:50 2005 From: p9019 at yahoo.com (Scott Johnson) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 11:30:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] Alignment cassettes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050104193050.15188.qmail@web40428.mail.yahoo.com> I have a section on Calibration tapes in my FAQ http://www.geocities.com/p9019/nakamichi/threads.html Scroll down to the section labeled "Nakamichi Calibration Tapes" Scott J. --- S�ndor Istv�n wrote: > Hello all, > > sometimes we speak about alignment cassettes, but I really do not > know where to get any. > > Cany you give me some hints? > > I already sent an email to B&W UK, but they think I do not deserve > any answer... :-( > > Any comments? > > > Thank you in advance. > Istv�n> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Tue Jan 4 20:35:20 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 19:35:20 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like In-Reply-To: <1104865573.41dae9257c848@www.richardhess.com> Message-ID: <00a101c4f294$86e431c0$0a904c51@oemcomputer> Richard Delicious picture! Most interesting that your choice of record deck is, by comparison with your recording equipment, a little modest? I was expecting something like a Technics SP-10, Simon Yorke S7 professional archive turntable (http://www.recordplayer.com/archive.htm), or an EMT, perhaps. Although I read somewhere on the Web that there are some "hot" modified SL-1200's with variable speeds for the "78s'". You have me intrigued ... What is the Sony APR-16 and why was only one ever made? Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of Richard L. Hess > Sent: 04 January 2005 19:06 > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like > > > Walter, > > Glad to meet someone else with 5 Dragons -- I have four here and > a fifth waiting > for me in Los Angeles. I, too, have an NOS spare Dragon mechanism. Funny > coincidence. > > I don't have any CR7s, but I have an MR-1 for varispeed and recording. > > I also keep a bunch of Sony APR-5003V, Studer A810, and Studer > A807s running as > well as the only Sony APR-16 ever made. > > For old photos see http://www.richardhess.com/tape/facility.htm > > New photos coming...sometime. > > Cheers, > > Richard > -- > > Richard L. Hess > http://www.richardhess.com/ > > > Quoting wdrewes at iafrica.com: > > > To execute a testamentary bequest from the tip of Africa for > Graham in the UK > > is nearly as difficult as maintaining a 1000ZXL anywhere in the > world! So > > Alex I think Graham must expect a pass on that one! > > Of the 4 CR7's I bought in the last 2 years or so THREE had no > cassette well > > doors! What people do with the CR7 doors worldwide I have not > been able to > > figure out.I only have three left and am still looking for a > CR7 door for one > > of them.(CR 5 also fits,but the other CR series do not) So if > anyone finds > > one ,they will know were to post them to at a profit! > > I dont think I will not acquire more Dragons as these are enough to > > handle!I wont need more as spares,as I have a complete ,brand > spankin new > > factory cassette drive with all its whistles from the factory for this > > purpose! > > Let nobody feel sad that he has no more of them > themselves.Imagine having to > > handle 5 wives--although 5 Dragons may be more complient and easier! > > Walter > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bala Ganesh Chandra > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:26 AM > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > This five dragon stack has created some craze here hasnt it? > When I was > > much much younger, and the only reel deck was my dad's X1000R (which was > > rotting away in pieces), he saw about 15 of these decks in a > store, working. > > Unfortuntely, the store was selling electronics. It was buying > scrap metal. > > > > Bala > > > > Alex Cozac wrote: > > Walter!!!! Don't wait till you pass away..SENT one of your collected > > Dragons > > to Graham...so HE will live eternity!!!! > > > > Good Luck Graham!!!!!! > > > > ALEX! > > > > > > > > >From: "Nelson" > > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:14:01 -0000 > > > > > >Indeed! How does one ingratiate oneself into your favour, > Walter, so > > that > > >one might have a Dragon bequeathed in your Will? > > > > > >Grinham > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > >Behalf > > >Of Sándor István > > > Sent: 03 January 2005 16:51 > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > >! Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > Hello Walter! > > > "Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce > the water lying > > >in > > >waiting)" > > > > > > Are you waiting for your sixth Dragon? Unbelievable... :-))) > > > How many CR7s do you have? > > > > > > I am really envy of you... ;-) > > > > > > Happy New Year! > > > István > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: wme drewes > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:07 PM > > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > Just wondering when last your Dragon was professionally > serviced by > > >people that have the correct calibration and adjustment > > >instruments(including tapes)? Do not let anyone loose on a > Dragon who > > does > > >not have these items.I have 5 Dragons and those that have > been serviced > > by > > >competent people(known for their competen! ce in the trade > )but who dont > > have > > >the full complement of equipment dont sound as well as those that > > Stephen > > >Sank has serviced! ( The same holds for my CR 7's as well) > Bear in mind > > >that > > >those not serviced by Mr Sank still sound superlative! > Please dont touch > > >those "white little wheels"if you dont have the equipment > for complete > > >adjustments,you might get an improvement on performance,but in all > > >propability a vast amount of further improvement will lie > latent in your > > >excellent machine! > > > Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the > water lying > > >in > > >waiting) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Colin Marsh > > > To: naktalk > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:43 PM > > > Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > Don't know about service for the Aiwa F990, but the > XK009! that's a > > >different matter. I own both the Aiwa XK007 and 009 EXCEL! > IA decks - I > > got > > >them from a local auction out of curiosity! As the pair > came at a price > > of > > >only £30.00 UK it was no hardship, I later discovered that > both these > > >models seem to be professional models and most found there way into > > studios > > >as mastering decks. I tried thru Aiwa and Sony to get the machines > > >serviced > > >with no luck, I tried my local repairers - with no luck. I > was about to > > >give up and cut my losses but then a friend suggested a studio > > technician > > >may be my answer, I live in London UK, so there are plenty > about! This > > >was > > >the answer! and both machines were duly serviced (together > with my two > > >ReVox > > >R to R decks!). Service was good, fast and didn't break > the bank. The > > >technician said" the Excelias are easy to work on, parts are not a > > problem > > >and Excelias tend to be robust and reliable?" > > > Depending on your location, this may be the way to go for the Aiwa > > >XK > > >! 009 Excelia.if you are in the UK I can get you in > contact with "my > > man"! > > >All I can say is that it will be worth it! > > > In my opinion both of these Aiwa Excelia decks are very underated > > >machines! They don't appear for sale often in the UK, and > are usually > > >studio sales. I recently saw and purchased a second 007 on ebay for > > >£18.00, > > >superbly well maintained in great order as well! For > domestic use the > > only > > >problems I can see are the deepness (they are very deep!). > The mains > > >transformers are bolted on the rear panel to isolate any > mains hum?, and > > >having to earth the chassis can be awkward. Many are converted to > > balanced > > >outputs/inputs (one of my 007s and the 009 are) but this > is easy to get > > >around. > > > In my opinion, again, both the 007 and 009 tread on my "Dragons" > > >tail > > >and equal the ZX7 when recording and playing back with DBX > switched in! > > >and > > >the 009 can "chase the Dragon! " and jump ahead of the ZX7 > using Dolby C > > . > > >I > > >had both the 007 and 009 calibrated for TDK SA European > stock cassettes > > >that > > >are easy to get here in the UK ( I buy them by the hundred > at £50.00 a > > >shot!). I find that with DBX and these tapes the Excelia's are near > > >perfect recording and playing good analogue, and thanks to > DBX "kick > > ass" > > >with digital, Alas my Naks cant do that being restricted > to Dolby B/C! > > > Please dont get me wrong! My Naks are some of my favourite babies > > >and > > >always will be, but I think it is fair to say that part of the Naks > > appeal > > >is due to that "little bit" that is added (Somebody told > me it is called > > >"that Nak sound"). and after all they are only cassette > decks! and as > > >good > > >as they are, some of my "other babies", ReVox R to Rs, fed > with a good > > tape > > >and analogue source eat the Naks for breakfast! > > > I do hope you have some success with finding a repairer! > > > > > > > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > --------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > Maintain your account here: > > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > > > > > > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > Main! tain your account here: > > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > >Maintain your account here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > Maintain your account here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! 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Learn more. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------ > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > Maintain your account here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From lists at richardhess.com Wed Jan 5 01:35:13 2005 From: lists at richardhess.com (Richard L. Hess) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 19:35:13 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like In-Reply-To: <00a101c4f294$86e431c0$0a904c51@oemcomputer> References: <1104865573.41dae9257c848@www.richardhess.com> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20050104193424.03ec08b0@127.0.0.1> Hello, Nelson, My business is transferring TAPES not records. I refer that work to others. Cheers, Richard At 07:35 PM 1/4/2005 +0000, you wrote: >Richard > >Delicious picture! > >Most interesting that your choice of record deck is, by comparison with your >recording equipment, a little modest? I was expecting something like a >Technics SP-10, Simon Yorke S7 professional archive turntable >(http://www.recordplayer.com/archive.htm), or an EMT, perhaps. Although I >read somewhere on the Web that there are some "hot" modified SL-1200's with >variable speeds for the "78s'". > >You have me intrigued ... What is the Sony APR-16 and why was only one ever >made? > >Gra' > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > Behalf Of Richard L. Hess > > Sent: 04 January 2005 19:06 > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like > > > > > > Walter, > > > > Glad to meet someone else with 5 Dragons -- I have four here and > > a fifth waiting > > for me in Los Angeles. I, too, have an NOS spare Dragon mechanism. Funny > > coincidence. > > > > I don't have any CR7s, but I have an MR-1 for varispeed and recording. > > > > I also keep a bunch of Sony APR-5003V, Studer A810, and Studer > > A807s running as > > well as the only Sony APR-16 ever made. > > > > For old photos see http://www.richardhess.com/tape/facility.htm > > > > New photos coming...sometime. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Richard > > -- > > > > Richard L. Hess > > http://www.richardhess.com/ > > > > > > Quoting wdrewes at iafrica.com: > > > > > To execute a testamentary bequest from the tip of Africa for > > Graham in the UK > > > is nearly as difficult as maintaining a 1000ZXL anywhere in the > > world! So > > > Alex I think Graham must expect a pass on that one! > > > Of the 4 CR7's I bought in the last 2 years or so THREE had no > > cassette well > > > doors! What people do with the CR7 doors worldwide I have not > > been able to > > > figure out.I only have three left and am still looking for a > > CR7 door for one > > > of them.(CR 5 also fits,but the other CR series do not) So if > > anyone finds > > > one ,they will know were to post them to at a profit! > > > I dont think I will not acquire more Dragons as these are enough to > > > handle!I wont need more as spares,as I have a complete ,brand > > spankin new > > > factory cassette drive with all its whistles from the factory for this > > > purpose! > > > Let nobody feel sad that he has no more of them > > themselves.Imagine having to > > > handle 5 wives--although 5 Dragons may be more complient and easier! > > > Walter > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bala Ganesh Chandra > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:26 AM > > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > This five dragon stack has created some craze here hasnt it? > > When I was > > > much much younger, and the only reel deck was my dad's X1000R (which was > > > rotting away in pieces), he saw about 15 of these decks in a > > store, working. > > > Unfortuntely, the store was selling electronics. It was buying > > scrap metal. > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > Alex Cozac wrote: > > > Walter!!!! Don't wait till you pass away..SENT one of your collected > > > Dragons > > > to Graham...so HE will live eternity!!!! > > > > > > Good Luck Graham!!!!!! > > > > > > ALEX! > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Nelson" > > > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > > > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:14:01 -0000 > > > > > > > >Indeed! How does one ingratiate oneself into your favour, > > Walter, so > > > that > > > >one might have a Dragon bequeathed in your Will? > > > > > > > >Grinham > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > > >Behalf > > > >Of Sándor István > > > > Sent: 03 January 2005 16:51 > > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > >! Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Walter! > > > > "Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce > > the water lying > > > >in > > > >waiting)" > > > > > > > > Are you waiting for your sixth Dragon? Unbelievable... :-))) > > > > How many CR7s do you have? > > > > > > > > I am really envy of you... ;-) > > > > > > > > Happy New Year! > > > > István > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: wme drewes > > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:07 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering when last your Dragon was professionally > > serviced by > > > >people that have the correct calibration and adjustment > > > >instruments(including tapes)? Do not let anyone loose on a > > Dragon who > > > does > > > >not have these items.I have 5 Dragons and those that have > > been serviced > > > by > > > >competent people(known for their competen! ce in the trade > > )but who dont > > > have > > > >the full complement of equipment dont sound as well as those that > > > Stephen > > > >Sank has serviced! ( The same holds for my CR 7's as well) > > Bear in mind > > > >that > > > >those not serviced by Mr Sank still sound superlative! > > Please dont touch > > > >those "white little wheels"if you dont have the equipment > > for complete > > > >adjustments,you might get an improvement on performance,but in all > > > >propability a vast amount of further improvement will lie > > latent in your > > > >excellent machine! > > > > Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the > > water lying > > > >in > > > >waiting) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Colin Marsh > > > > To: naktalk > > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:43 PM > > > > Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't know about service for the Aiwa F990, but the > > XK009! that's a > > > >different matter. I own both the Aiwa XK007 and 009 EXCEL! > > IA decks - I > > > got > > > >them from a local auction out of curiosity! As the pair > > came at a price > > > of > > > >only £30.00 UK it was no hardship, I later discovered that > > both these > > > >models seem to be professional models and most found there way into > > > studios > > > >as mastering decks. I tried thru Aiwa and Sony to get the machines > > > >serviced > > > >with no luck, I tried my local repairers - with no luck. I > > was about to > > > >give up and cut my losses but then a friend suggested a studio > > > technician > > > >may be my answer, I live in London UK, so there are plenty > > about! This > > > >was > > > >the answer! and both machines were duly serviced (together > > with my two > > > >ReVox > > > >R to R decks!). Service was good, fast and didn't break > > the bank. The > > > >technician said" the Excelias are easy to work on, parts are not a > > > problem > > > >and Excelias tend to be robust and reliable?" > > > > Depending on your location, this may be the way to go for the Aiwa > > > >XK > > > >! 009 Excelia.if you are in the UK I can get you in > > contact with "my > > > man"! > > > >All I can say is that it will be worth it! > > > > In my opinion both of these Aiwa Excelia decks are very underated > > > >machines! They don't appear for sale often in the UK, and > > are usually > > > >studio sales. I recently saw and purchased a second 007 on ebay for > > > >£18.00, > > > >superbly well maintained in great order as well! For > > domestic use the > > > only > > > >problems I can see are the deepness (they are very deep!). > > The mains > > > >transformers are bolted on the rear panel to isolate any > > mains hum?, and > > > >having to earth the chassis can be awkward. Many are converted to > > > balanced > > > >outputs/inputs (one of my 007s and the 009 are) but this > > is easy to get > > > >around. > > > > In my opinion, again, both the 007 and 009 tread on my "Dragons" > > > >tail > > > >and equal the ZX7 when recording and playing back with DBX > > switched in! > > > >and > > > >the 009 can "chase the Dragon! " and jump ahead of the ZX7 > > using Dolby C > > > . > > > >I > > > >had both the 007 and 009 calibrated for TDK SA European > > stock cassettes > > > >that > > > >are easy to get here in the UK ( I buy them by the hundred > > at £50.00 a > > > >shot!). I find that with DBX and these tapes the Excelia's are near > > > >perfect recording and playing good analogue, and thanks to > > DBX "kick > > > ass" > > > >with digital, Alas my Naks cant do that being restricted > > to Dolby B/C! > > > > Please dont get me wrong! My Naks are some of my favourite babies > > > >and > > > >always will be, but I think it is fair to say that part of the Naks > > > appeal > > > >is due to that "little bit" that is added (Somebody told > > me it is called > > > >"that Nak sound"). and after all they are only cassette > > decks! and as > > > >good > > > >as they are, some of my "other babies", ReVox R to Rs, fed > > with a good > > > tape > > > >and analogue source eat the Naks for breakfast! > > > > I do hope you have some success with finding a repairer! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > Maintain your account here: > > > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > Main! tain your account here: > > > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > >Maintain your account here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > > > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > Maintain your account here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! 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Learn more. > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------ > > > > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > Maintain your account here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Wed Jan 5 01:27:00 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 00:27:00 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050104193424.03ec08b0@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: <000401c4f2bd$459749e0$fdd94c51@oemcomputer> Richard Understood, but do tell us more about that one-off Sony machine. Regards Graham > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of Richard L. Hess > Sent: 05 January 2005 00:35 > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like > > > Hello, Nelson, > > My business is transferring TAPES not records. I refer that work > to others. > > Cheers, > > Richard > > > At 07:35 PM 1/4/2005 +0000, you wrote: > >Richard > > > >Delicious picture! > > > >Most interesting that your choice of record deck is, by > comparison with your > >recording equipment, a little modest? I was expecting something like a > >Technics SP-10, Simon Yorke S7 professional archive turntable > >(http://www.recordplayer.com/archive.htm), or an EMT, perhaps. > Although I > >read somewhere on the Web that there are some "hot" modified > SL-1200's with > >variable speeds for the "78s'". > > > >You have me intrigued ... What is the Sony APR-16 and why was > only one ever > >made? > > > >Gra' > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > > Behalf Of Richard L. Hess > > > Sent: 04 January 2005 19:06 > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like > > > > > > > > > Walter, > > > > > > Glad to meet someone else with 5 Dragons -- I have four here and > > > a fifth waiting > > > for me in Los Angeles. I, too, have an NOS spare Dragon > mechanism. Funny > > > coincidence. > > > > > > I don't have any CR7s, but I have an MR-1 for varispeed and recording. > > > > > > I also keep a bunch of Sony APR-5003V, Studer A810, and Studer > > > A807s running as > > > well as the only Sony APR-16 ever made. > > > > > > For old photos see http://www.richardhess.com/tape/facility.htm > > > > > > New photos coming...sometime. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Richard > > > -- > > > > > > Richard L. Hess > > > http://www.richardhess.com/ > > > > > > > > > Quoting wdrewes at iafrica.com: > > > > > > > To execute a testamentary bequest from the tip of Africa for > > > Graham in the UK > > > > is nearly as difficult as maintaining a 1000ZXL anywhere in the > > > world! So > > > > Alex I think Graham must expect a pass on that one! > > > > Of the 4 CR7's I bought in the last 2 years or so THREE had no > > > cassette well > > > > doors! What people do with the CR7 doors worldwide I have not > > > been able to > > > > figure out.I only have three left and am still looking for a > > > CR7 door for one > > > > of them.(CR 5 also fits,but the other CR series do not) So if > > > anyone finds > > > > one ,they will know were to post them to at a profit! > > > > I dont think I will not acquire more Dragons as these are > enough to > > > > handle!I wont need more as spares,as I have a complete ,brand > > > spankin new > > > > factory cassette drive with all its whistles from the > factory for this > > > > purpose! > > > > Let nobody feel sad that he has no more of them > > > themselves.Imagine having to > > > > handle 5 wives--although 5 Dragons may be more complient and easier! > > > > Walter > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Bala Ganesh Chandra > > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:26 AM > > > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > This five dragon stack has created some craze here hasnt it? > > > When I was > > > > much much younger, and the only reel deck was my dad's > X1000R (which was > > > > rotting away in pieces), he saw about 15 of these decks in a > > > store, working. > > > > Unfortuntely, the store was selling electronics. It was buying > > > scrap metal. > > > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > Alex Cozac wrote: > > > > Walter!!!! Don't wait till you pass away..SENT one of > your collected > > > > Dragons > > > > to Graham...so HE will live eternity!!!! > > > > > > > > Good Luck Graham!!!!!! > > > > > > > > ALEX! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Nelson" > > > > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > > > > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:14:01 -0000 > > > > > > > > > >Indeed! How does one ingratiate oneself into your favour, > > > Walter, so > > > > that > > > > >one might have a Dragon bequeathed in your Will? > > > > > > > > > >Grinham > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com > [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > > > >Behalf > > > > >Of Sándor István > > > > > Sent: 03 January 2005 16:51 > > > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > > >! Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Walter! > > > > > "Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce > > > the water lying > > > > >in > > > > >waiting)" > > > > > > > > > > Are you waiting for your sixth Dragon? Unbelievable... :-))) > > > > > How many CR7s do you have? > > > > > > > > > > I am really envy of you... ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Happy New Year! > > > > > István > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: wme drewes > > > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:07 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering when last your Dragon was professionally > > > serviced by > > > > >people that have the correct calibration and adjustment > > > > >instruments(including tapes)? Do not let anyone loose on a > > > Dragon who > > > > does > > > > >not have these items.I have 5 Dragons and those that have > > > been serviced > > > > by > > > > >competent people(known for their competen! ce in the trade > > > )but who dont > > > > have > > > > >the full complement of equipment dont sound as well as > those that > > > > Stephen > > > > >Sank has serviced! ( The same holds for my CR 7's as well) > > > Bear in mind > > > > >that > > > > >those not serviced by Mr Sank still sound superlative! > > > Please dont touch > > > > >those "white little wheels"if you dont have the equipment > > > for complete > > > > >adjustments,you might get an improvement on > performance,but in all > > > > >propability a vast amount of further improvement will lie > > > latent in your > > > > >excellent machine! > > > > > Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the > > > water lying > > > > >in > > > > >waiting) > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Colin Marsh > > > > > To: naktalk > > > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:43 PM > > > > > Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't know about service for the Aiwa F990, but the > > > XK009! that's a > > > > >different matter. I own both the Aiwa XK007 and 009 EXCEL! > > > IA decks - I > > > > got > > > > >them from a local auction out of curiosity! As the pair > > > came at a price > > > > of > > > > >only £30.00 UK it was no hardship, I later discovered that > > > both these > > > > >models seem to be professional models and most found > there way into > > > > studios > > > > >as mastering decks. I tried thru Aiwa and Sony to get > the machines > > > > >serviced > > > > >with no luck, I tried my local repairers - with no luck. I > > > was about to > > > > >give up and cut my losses but then a friend suggested a studio > > > > technician > > > > >may be my answer, I live in London UK, so there are plenty > > > about! This > > > > >was > > > > >the answer! and both machines were duly serviced (together > > > with my two > > > > >ReVox > > > > >R to R decks!). Service was good, fast and didn't break > > > the bank. The > > > > >technician said" the Excelias are easy to work on, > parts are not a > > > > problem > > > > >and Excelias tend to be robust and reliable?" > > > > > Depending on your location, this may be the way to go > for the Aiwa > > > > >XK > > > > >! 009 Excelia.if you are in the UK I can get you in > > > contact with "my > > > > man"! > > > > >All I can say is that it will be worth it! > > > > > In my opinion both of these Aiwa Excelia decks are > very underated > > > > >machines! They don't appear for sale often in the UK, and > > > are usually > > > > >studio sales. I recently saw and purchased a second > 007 on ebay for > > > > >£18.00, > > > > >superbly well maintained in great order as well! For > > > domestic use the > > > > only > > > > >problems I can see are the deepness (they are very deep!). > > > The mains > > > > >transformers are bolted on the rear panel to isolate any > > > mains hum?, and > > > > >having to earth the chassis can be awkward. Many are > converted to > > > > balanced > > > > >outputs/inputs (one of my 007s and the 009 are) but this > > > is easy to get > > > > >around. > > > > > In my opinion, again, both the 007 and 009 tread on > my "Dragons" > > > > >tail > > > > >and equal the ZX7 when recording and playing back with DBX > > > switched in! > > > > >and > > > > >the 009 can "chase the Dragon! " and jump ahead of the ZX7 > > > using Dolby C > > > > . > > > > >I > > > > >had both the 007 and 009 calibrated for TDK SA European > > > stock cassettes > > > > >that > > > > >are easy to get here in the UK ( I buy them by the hundred > > > at £50.00 a > > > > >shot!). I find that with DBX and these tapes the > Excelia's are near > > > > >perfect recording and playing good analogue, and thanks to > > > DBX "kick > > > > ass" > > > > >with digital, Alas my Naks cant do that being restricted > > > to Dolby B/C! > > > > > Please dont get me wrong! My Naks are some of my > favourite babies > > > > >and > > > > >always will be, but I think it is fair to say that > part of the Naks > > > > appeal > > > > >is due to that "little bit" that is added (Somebody told > > > me it is called > > > > >"that Nak sound"). and after all they are only cassette > > > decks! and as > > > > >good > > > > >as they are, some of my "other babies", ReVox R to Rs, fed > > > with a good > > > > tape > > > > >and analogue source eat the Naks for breakfast! > > > > > I do hope you have some success with finding a repairer! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > ========= > > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > ========= > > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > > Maintain your account here: > > > > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > ========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ----------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > ========= > > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > ========= > > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > > Main! tain your account here: > > > > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > ========= > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > ========= > > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > ========= > > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > >Maintain your account here: > > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > ========= > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > > > > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > Maintain your account here: > > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced > search. Learn more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > Maintain your account here: > > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > Maintain your account here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From lists at richardhess.com Wed Jan 5 02:04:21 2005 From: lists at richardhess.com (Richard L. Hess) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 20:04:21 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like In-Reply-To: <000401c4f2bd$459749e0$fdd94c51@oemcomputer> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050104193424.03ec08b0@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20050104195850.08864480@127.0.0.1> I'm sorry. It's a monster. It's essentially the same size as the 24-track APR-24 (see eBay--there are usually those up there). It has 16 electronics channels and came with a 16-track 1-inch head. They made it to show at trade shows and as a concept prototype. Of course, that was about the time people started buying ADATs and DA88s to record multitrack. I also happen to have 1-inch 8-track, 1/2-inch 8-track, and 1/2-inch 4-track head assemblies for it. Someday, I should get 1/4-inch 8-track, 1/2-inch 16, and 1/2-inch 12-track assemblies for it. I don't know how it was saved from the crusher, but I'm glad it was. Sony threw out many prototypes like this when they closed their Cypress, CA facility. At 12:27 AM 1/5/2005 +0000, you wrote: >Richard > >Understood, but do tell us more about that one-off Sony machine. > >Regards > >Graham > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > Behalf Of Richard L. Hess > > Sent: 05 January 2005 00:35 > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like > > > > > > Hello, Nelson, > > > > My business is transferring TAPES not records. I refer that work > > to others. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Richard > > > > > > At 07:35 PM 1/4/2005 +0000, you wrote: > > >Richard > > > > > >Delicious picture! > > > > > >Most interesting that your choice of record deck is, by > > comparison with your > > >recording equipment, a little modest? I was expecting something like a > > >Technics SP-10, Simon Yorke S7 professional archive turntable > > >(http://www.recordplayer.com/archive.htm), or an EMT, perhaps. > > Although I > > >read somewhere on the Web that there are some "hot" modified > > SL-1200's with > > >variable speeds for the "78s'". > > > > > >You have me intrigued ... What is the Sony APR-16 and why was > > only one ever > > >made? > > > > > >Gra' > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > > > Behalf Of Richard L. Hess > > > > Sent: 04 January 2005 19:06 > > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like > > > > > > > > > > > > Walter, > > > > > > > > Glad to meet someone else with 5 Dragons -- I have four here and > > > > a fifth waiting > > > > for me in Los Angeles. I, too, have an NOS spare Dragon > > mechanism. Funny > > > > coincidence. > > > > > > > > I don't have any CR7s, but I have an MR-1 for varispeed and recording. > > > > > > > > I also keep a bunch of Sony APR-5003V, Studer A810, and Studer > > > > A807s running as > > > > well as the only Sony APR-16 ever made. > > > > > > > > For old photos see http://www.richardhess.com/tape/facility.htm > > > > > > > > New photos coming...sometime. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Richard > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Richard L. Hess > > > > http://www.richardhess.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quoting wdrewes at iafrica.com: > > > > > > > > > To execute a testamentary bequest from the tip of Africa for > > > > Graham in the UK > > > > > is nearly as difficult as maintaining a 1000ZXL anywhere in the > > > > world! So > > > > > Alex I think Graham must expect a pass on that one! > > > > > Of the 4 CR7's I bought in the last 2 years or so THREE had no > > > > cassette well > > > > > doors! What people do with the CR7 doors worldwide I have not > > > > been able to > > > > > figure out.I only have three left and am still looking for a > > > > CR7 door for one > > > > > of them.(CR 5 also fits,but the other CR series do not) So if > > > > anyone finds > > > > > one ,they will know were to post them to at a profit! > > > > > I dont think I will not acquire more Dragons as these are > > enough to > > > > > handle!I wont need more as spares,as I have a complete ,brand > > > > spankin new > > > > > factory cassette drive with all its whistles from the > > factory for this > > > > > purpose! > > > > > Let nobody feel sad that he has no more of them > > > > themselves.Imagine having to > > > > > handle 5 wives--although 5 Dragons may be more complient and easier! > > > > > Walter > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Bala Ganesh Chandra > > > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:26 AM > > > > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This five dragon stack has created some craze here hasnt it? > > > > When I was > > > > > much much younger, and the only reel deck was my dad's > > X1000R (which was > > > > > rotting away in pieces), he saw about 15 of these decks in a > > > > store, working. > > > > > Unfortuntely, the store was selling electronics. It was buying > > > > scrap metal. > > > > > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > Alex Cozac wrote: > > > > > Walter!!!! Don't wait till you pass away..SENT one of > > your collected > > > > > Dragons > > > > > to Graham...so HE will live eternity!!!! > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck Graham!!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > ALEX! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Nelson" > > > > > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > > > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > > > > > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:14:01 -0000 > > > > > > > > > > > >Indeed! How does one ingratiate oneself into your favour, > > > > Walter, so > > > > > that > > > > > >one might have a Dragon bequeathed in your Will? > > > > > > > > > > > >Grinham > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com > > [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > > > > >Behalf > > > > > >Of Sándor István > > > > > > Sent: 03 January 2005 16:51 > > > > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > > > >! Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Walter! > > > > > > "Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce > > > > the water lying > > > > > >in > > > > > >waiting)" > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you waiting for your sixth Dragon? Unbelievable... :-))) > > > > > > How many CR7s do you have? > > > > > > > > > > > > I am really envy of you... ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy New Year! > > > > > > István > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: wme drewes > > > > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:07 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering when last your Dragon was professionally > > > > serviced by > > > > > >people that have the correct calibration and adjustment > > > > > >instruments(including tapes)? Do not let anyone loose on a > > > > Dragon who > > > > > does > > > > > >not have these items.I have 5 Dragons and those that have > > > > been serviced > > > > > by > > > > > >competent people(known for their competen! ce in the trade > > > > )but who dont > > > > > have > > > > > >the full complement of equipment dont sound as well as > > those that > > > > > Stephen > > > > > >Sank has serviced! ( The same holds for my CR 7's as well) > > > > Bear in mind > > > > > >that > > > > > >those not serviced by Mr Sank still sound superlative! > > > > Please dont touch > > > > > >those "white little wheels"if you dont have the equipment > > > > for complete > > > > > >adjustments,you might get an improvement on > > performance,but in all > > > > > >propability a vast amount of further improvement will lie > > > > latent in your > > > > > >excellent machine! > > > > > > Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the > > > > water lying > > > > > >in > > > > > >waiting) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: Colin Marsh > > > > > > To: naktalk > > > > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:43 PM > > > > > > Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't know about service for the Aiwa F990, but the > > > > XK009! that's a > > > > > >different matter. I own both the Aiwa XK007 and 009 EXCEL! > > > > IA decks - I > > > > > got > > > > > >them from a local auction out of curiosity! As the pair > > > > came at a price > > > > > of > > > > > >only £30.00 UK it was no hardship, I later discovered that > > > > both these > > > > > >models seem to be professional models and most found > > there way into > > > > > studios > > > > > >as mastering decks. I tried thru Aiwa and Sony to get > > the machines > > > > > >serviced > > > > > >with no luck, I tried my local repairers - with no luck. I > > > > was about to > > > > > >give up and cut my losses but then a friend suggested a studio > > > > > technician > > > > > >may be my answer, I live in London UK, so there are plenty > > > > about! This > > > > > >was > > > > > >the answer! and both machines were duly serviced (together > > > > with my two > > > > > >ReVox > > > > > >R to R decks!). Service was good, fast and didn't break > > > > the bank. The > > > > > >technician said" the Excelias are easy to work on, > > parts are not a > > > > > problem > > > > > >and Excelias tend to be robust and reliable?" > > > > > > Depending on your location, this may be the way to go > > for the Aiwa > > > > > >XK > > > > > >! 009 Excelia.if you are in the UK I can get you in > > > > contact with "my > > > > > man"! > > > > > >All I can say is that it will be worth it! > > > > > > In my opinion both of these Aiwa Excelia decks are > > very underated > > > > > >machines! They don't appear for sale often in the UK, and > > > > are usually > > > > > >studio sales. I recently saw and purchased a second > > 007 on ebay for > > > > > >£18.00, > > > > > >superbly well maintained in great order as well! For > > > > domestic use the > > > > > only > > > > > >problems I can see are the deepness (they are very deep!). > > > > The mains > > > > > >transformers are bolted on the rear panel to isolate any > > > > mains hum?, and > > > > > >having to earth the chassis can be awkward. Many are > > converted to > > > > > balanced > > > > > >outputs/inputs (one of my 007s and the 009 are) but this > > > > is easy to get > > > > > >around. > > > > > > In my opinion, again, both the 007 and 009 tread on > > my "Dragons" > > > > > >tail > > > > > >and equal the ZX7 when recording and playing back with DBX > > > > switched in! > > > > > >and > > > > > >the 009 can "chase the Dragon! " and jump ahead of the ZX7 > > > > using Dolby C > > > > > . > > > > > >I > > > > > >had both the 007 and 009 calibrated for TDK SA European > > > > stock cassettes > > > > > >that > > > > > >are easy to get here in the UK ( I buy them by the hundred > > > > at £50.00 a > > > > > >shot!). I find that with DBX and these tapes the > > Excelia's are near > > > > > >perfect recording and playing good analogue, and thanks to > > > > DBX "kick > > > > > ass" > > > > > >with digital, Alas my Naks cant do that being restricted > > > > to Dolby B/C! > > > > > > Please dont get me wrong! My Naks are some of my > > favourite babies > > > > > >and > > > > > >always will be, but I think it is fair to say that > > part of the Naks > > > > > appeal > > > > > >is due to that "little bit" that is added (Somebody told > > > > me it is called > > > > > >"that Nak sound"). and after all they are only cassette > > > > decks! and as > > > > > >good > > > > > >as they are, some of my "other babies", ReVox R to Rs, fed > > > > with a good > > > > > tape > > > > > >and analogue source eat the Naks for breakfast! > > > > > > I do hope you have some success with finding a repairer! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > --------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ========= > > > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ========= > > > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > > > Maintain your account here: > > > > > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ----------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ========= > > > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ========= > > > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > > > Main! tain your account here: > > > > > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ========= > > > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ========= > > > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > > >Maintain your account here: > > > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ========= > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > > > > > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > > Maintain your account here: > > > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > ------------ > > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > > Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced > > search. Learn more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > ------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > > Maintain your account here: > > > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > Maintain your account here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= From sandorpistike at hotmail.com Wed Jan 5 07:26:15 2005 From: sandorpistike at hotmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=E1ndor_Istv=E1n?=) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 07:26:15 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Alignment cassettes References: <20050104193050.15188.qmail@web40428.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Dear Scott, your knowledge-collection is very nice...! Thank you. István Ps: some said a long time ago that "Why one should pay that much for a Nak-aligment cassette on e-bay, when they are still available(!) from xy company, for a moderate price..." maybe it was B&W? Any idea? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Johnson" To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Alignment cassettes > I have a section on Calibration tapes in my FAQ > http://www.geocities.com/p9019/nakamichi/threads.html > > Scroll down to the section labeled "Nakamichi Calibration Tapes" > > Scott J. > > --- Sándor István wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > sometimes we speak about alignment cassettes, but I really do not > > know where to get any. > > > > Cany you give me some hints? > > > > I already sent an email to B&W UK, but they think I do not deserve > > any answer... :-( > > > > Any comments? > > > > > > Thank you in advance. > > István> > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > Maintain your account here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From greynolds at newsguy.com Tue Jan 4 16:41:53 2005 From: greynolds at newsguy.com (Geoffrey Reynolds) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 10:41:53 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? References: Message-ID: <000601c4f273$ed563ff0$15eeb3a4@tfcorp.tfn.com> From: "neil lipes" > Yes....... sorry fellows, but the amount of testosterone on NYC streets is > overwhelming!.....and sorry but, what is with all the females that are 5 > foot tall behind the wheels of these monsters??? I guess the operative word > is a INTIMIDATE! Those vehicles are a menace no two ways about it. Some of the drivers of any vehicle (not just SUV's) are the menace, not the vehicles. Do most of the people who drive SUV's actually "need" them? Probably not, but the same argument could be made of our Nakamichi tape decks too - we could get by quite well with a CD recorder, but we enjoy our Naks. Same thing with vehicles and many other material things. But I ask again if this is the Naktalk list or if I've been transferred to another... -- Geoffrey Reynolds Land Rover Discovery and Nak CR-7A Owner From jvbrhg at seanet.com Tue Jan 4 17:17:21 2005 From: jvbrhg at seanet.com (JVB/RHG) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 08:17:21 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] For Alex References: <007c01c4f272$cd37db80$0a904c51@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <008e01c4f279$370733c0$541a0cd0@r7g1f8> And who is the artist and what is the music??? Randall ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nelson" To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 7:33 AM Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Alex > I agree. My best piano recording is not on CD and is not a "modern" stereo > vinyl record but a late 1950s/early 1960s mono record. > > Gra' > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > Behalf Of neil lipes > > Sent: 04 January 2005 14:28 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Alex > > > > > > When I come across recordings that say "re-channeled" for stereo, > > I simply > > employ my mode switch on the preamp to the mono position..at least I will > > hear the music in mono....and boys good mono is excellent! > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From bg3009 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 4 18:12:27 2005 From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 09:12:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] For Kermit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050104171227.1376.qmail@web41414.mail.yahoo.com> Wow Alex, you hit the nail real exact. I was talking about that and the 77. I have a friend who sent me snips of a mail sent to him by the designer Modafferi who acknowledges the better of them both in sonic terms. Also, there is elsewhere a detailed study in at which stages the 78 was designed to sacrifice sound quality for signal strength. And of course, 30 years on, there are things that can be done to get a better sound, without sacrificing the DX capability of the '78. I have the 77, 78 and 80 and I prefer the relax sound of the 77. Bala Alex Cozac wrote: Dear Bala! Sorry but... I DON'T AGREED! Today I use also from my family a McIntosh MR-78 with his originally walnut cabinet in our family since 1974...UNTOUCHED SINCE THEN...! and such newer "Digitally" tuner...sorry to write is simple a "SHIT"...in sound quality!!! ALEX! >From: Bala Ganesh Chandra >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Kermit >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 00:48:22 -0800 (PST) > >Hi Graham, and Kermit, > > I am not quite suprised by the encounter. Many times, these >days, people get mixed with a good sound, and a true sound. My preference >is for something which I can sit down, and listen for hours at end, and >sounds natural. Almost, as if, the singer was there. That is true sound. I >realize that sometimes, this results in a mellow, and 'warm' sound with a >slight rolled of treble.. as some describe. Recently, I went thru a debate >of two sister tuner models made by the same company. They both employ the >same audio section, but the IF and filters are totally different. When new, >the cheaper one went for USD 700. The more advanced IF version cost a full >USD1700! When compared side by side, the costlier version seems to >outshine, with a clearer sound, better treble and so on. Its so good, you >can plug out the antannae cable and this baby would still pull stations >with a good signal strength! (In case you guys out there wonder, this was >the tuner that ousted the Marantz 10! > B). The > cheaper one had to have a good and strong signal. Yet, 30 years after all >that, today the designer is helping people upgrade the more expensive tuner >to have a similiar sonic signature to the cheaper tuner! Reason? I put back >both tuners and when I listen carefully, the cheaper one, with a simpler >filter and all that was more relaxed, more natural and had the most >beautiful violins I ever heard on the airwaves. > >There are more examples when more money does not mean better sound ( point >is what do we define as good sound?). But then again, money put in the >right places, might yield what I'd call a true sound. In case guys out >there are interested, I am considering plans to incorporate tubes in my Nak >680. > >Bala > >Nelson wrote: >Hi Kermit > >As an engineer and specialist in recording, do you feel that stereo >recording is the best way to capture the purest sound of the voices or >instruments, and (of course) the use of stereo amplifiers and speakers to >reproduce it? This may seem like a daft question. However, not so long ago >I was in conversation with a maker of some very hi end kit - that is, he >makes �250-�500 stereo decoders for vintage mono tuners, including the >celebrated (in the UK and Australia, at atleast) Leak Troughlines. (Leak, >by the way, had a Leak branded ski slope cassette deck which was made for >them by Nakamichi.) I said to him my priority was in getting the best >reproduction of the tonal quality of the instruments rather than building >up >some artificial "sound stage". It's not that I didn't want "stereo" but >stereo sound is less important to me that getting the sound right, so that >a >wood instruments sounds like a wood instrument, that a Steinberg sounds >like >a Steinberg and not a Yamaha. His response was that I should forget stereo >altogether, that I would never get as good tonal quality to the music from >any tuner that uses a multiplex decoder. I was, "What, even your �500 >model?" He said, "Yes." > >Gra' > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= >Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= >Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. 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URL: From neillipes628 at hotmail.com Tue Jan 4 18:40:20 2005 From: neillipes628 at hotmail.com (neil lipes) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 12:40:20 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] For Alex In-Reply-To: <007c01c4f272$cd37db80$0a904c51@oemcomputer> Message-ID: Gra: Try finding a Decca Lp of Pictures At An Exhibition "realized" by the great late Benno Moishevitsch, (sp?) on that disc is also Schumann's Carnaval.......ELECTRIC readings!!!!!!!!! N >From: "Nelson" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Alex >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:33:55 -0000 > >I agree. My best piano recording is not on CD and is not a "modern" stereo >vinyl record but a late 1950s/early 1960s mono record. > >Gra' > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > Behalf Of neil lipes > > Sent: 04 January 2005 14:28 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Alex > > > > > > When I come across recordings that say "re-channeled" for stereo, > > I simply > > employ my mode switch on the preamp to the mono position..at least I >will > > hear the music in mono....and boys good mono is excellent! > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Don�t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From bg3009 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 4 19:39:20 2005 From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 10:39:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: FAO Walter. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050104183920.46365.qmail@web41415.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I guess everyone is entitled to his opinion. And I dont see anything wrong with Walter's here. Bala Colin Marsh wrote: Walter The Dragon I was referring to was owned by my father from new in the early 1990's untill it came to me 2 years ago. Although it had little use, it was serviced yearly by authorised Nak techs in South Africa, later in Japan and finally two years ago in Germany. I myself would never even take the covers off, let alone fiddle with VRs, or "little white wheels"!! When you say "Compliment of equipment" I presume you are referring to all the little mechanical jigs, the scope, a T100?, all the service manuals and the box of calibration tapes, etc. etc. that my father purchased and I have stored away in a rather nice Rosewood box in my other home in South Africa? I am about to have some work done on the ZX7 by Bowers and Wilkins in the UK ( you guys tell me they are good?), if that goes ok The dragon can be next. I was in no way implying that the Aiwa Excelias are better machines than the Naks, but in my opinion "head to head" using the inbuilt noise reduction circuits the Aiwas DBX and its super flat frequency response ( to 21khz +-3db. type 4. verified by the service tech!) is truer to the original, especially with digital sources than MY Naks using inbuilt Dolby. I have little usefull "cassette" tech know-how, only my ears! but I think you might agree that Naks (all the ones I have owned anyway!) tend to sweeten things up a little! This may be, of course due to the azimuth and bias settings having drifted, and I suppose this can be partially corrected before recordings are made, But I don't think the average owner is likely to do this is he? I have, over many years "collected" a pile of so called "hifi" equipment so I can now listen to music the way I want to, to protect my valuable sources I need to record on tape or what have you. I want the playback to be as near to the original as is possible. I use analogue tape recorders to achieve that. but some do better that others. Out of interest this is my order of preference: 1. ReVox B77 half track 7.5 ips r to r. no NR. 2. ReVox B710, extnl DBX. 3. Aiwa Excelia XK009 intnl DBX. 4. Nak Dragon. no NR applied. This is my preference, and I realise others will very much disagree with me, that's life! that's what makes it interesting, OK? I have spent my working life with electro-mechanical machines and electronics and from my experience I can tell you there is no "Ultimate" cassette recorder! each one I own is flawed by design, mechanically or electronically, in some way of another. Even Naks (those bloody orange caps, and cheap pully wheels)! and, dare I say it, the revered Dragon !! -----Original Message----- From: wme drewes [mailto:wdrewes at iafrica.com] Sent: 03 January 2005 16:08 To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: Just wondering when last your Dragon was professionally serviced by people that have the correct calibration and adjustment instruments(including tapes)? Do not let anyone loose on a Dragon who does not have these items.I have 5 Dragons and those that have been serviced by competent people(known for their competence in the trade )but who dont have the full complement of equipment dont sound as well as those that Stephen Sank has serviced! ( The same holds for my CR 7's as well) Bear in mind that those not serviced by Mr Sank still sound superlative! Please dont touch those "white little wheels"if you dont have the equipment for complete adjustments,you might get an improvement on performance,but in all propability a vast amount of further improvement will lie latent in your excellent machine! Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the water lying in waiting) ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Marsh To: naktalk Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:43 PM Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: Don't know about service for the Aiwa F990, but the XK009! that's a different matter. I own both the Aiwa XK007 and 009 EXCELIA decks - I got them from a local auction out of curiosity! As the pair came at a price of only �30.00 UK it was no hardship, I later discovered that both these models seem to be professional models and most found there way into studios as mastering decks. I tried thru Aiwa and Sony to get the machines serviced with no luck, I tried my local repairers - with no luck. I was about to give up and cut my losses but then a friend suggested a studio technician may be my answer, I live in London UK, so there are plenty about! This was the answer! and both machines were duly serviced (together with my two ReVox R to R decks!). Service was good, fast and didn't break the bank. The technician said" the Excelias are easy to work on, parts are not a problem and Excelias tend to be robust and reliable?" Depending on your location, this may be the way to go for the Aiwa XK 009 Excelia.if you are in the UK I can get you in contact with "my man"! All I can say is that it will be worth it! In my opinion both of these Aiwa Excelia decks are very underated machines! They don't appear for sale often in the UK, and are usually studio sales. I recently saw and purchased a second 007 on ebay for �18.00, superbly well maintained in great order as well! For domestic use the only problems I can see are the deepness (they are very deep!). The mains transformers are bolted on the rear panel to isolate any mains hum?, and having to earth the chassis can be awkward. Many are converted to balanced outputs/inputs (one of my 007s and the 009 are) but this is easy to get around. In my opinion, again, both the 007 and 009 tread on my "Dragons" tail and equal the ZX7 when recording and playing back with DBX switched in! and the 009 can "chase the Dragon" and jump ahead of the ZX7 using Dolby C . I had both the 007 and 009 calibrated for TDK SA European stock cassettes that are easy to get here in the UK ( I buy them by the hundred at �50.00 a shot!). I find that with DBX and these tapes the Excelia's are near perfect recording and playing good analogue, and thanks to DBX "kick ass" with digital, Alas my Naks cant do that being restricted to Dolby B/C! Please dont get me wrong! My Naks are some of my favourite babies and always will be, but I think it is fair to say that part of the Naks appeal is due to that "little bit" that is added (Somebody told me it is called "that Nak sound"). and after all they are only cassette decks! and as good as they are, some of my "other babies", ReVox R to Rs, fed with a good tape and analogue source eat the Naks for breakfast! 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Learn more. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rjlbjk at cox.net Tue Jan 4 20:28:42 2005 From: rjlbjk at cox.net (rjlbjk at cox.net) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 14:28:42 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like Message-ID: <20050104192842.YMIQ1657.lakermmtao10.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Richard, Do you charge admission to enter your home? LOL Wow, what a collection!! Did you scout for these on your own or did people know of your love for recording gear and contacted you? Just curious. Roland > > From: "Richard L. Hess" > Date: 2005/01/04 Tue PM 02:06:13 EST > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like > > Walter, > > Glad to meet someone else with 5 Dragons -- I have four here and a fifth waiting > for me in Los Angeles. I, too, have an NOS spare Dragon mechanism. Funny > coincidence. > > I don't have any CR7s, but I have an MR-1 for varispeed and recording. > > I also keep a bunch of Sony APR-5003V, Studer A810, and Studer A807s running as > well as the only Sony APR-16 ever made. > > For old photos see http://www.richardhess.com/tape/facility.htm > > New photos coming...sometime. > > Cheers, > > Richard > -- > > Richard L. Hess > http://www.richardhess.com/ > > > Quoting wdrewes at iafrica.com: > > > To execute a testamentary bequest from the tip of Africa for Graham in the UK > > is nearly as difficult as maintaining a 1000ZXL anywhere in the world! So > > Alex I think Graham must expect a pass on that one! > > Of the 4 CR7's I bought in the last 2 years or so THREE had no cassette well > > doors! What people do with the CR7 doors worldwide I have not been able to > > figure out.I only have three left and am still looking for a CR7 door for one > > of them.(CR 5 also fits,but the other CR series do not) So if anyone finds > > one ,they will know were to post them to at a profit! > > I dont think I will not acquire more Dragons as these are enough to > > handle!I wont need more as spares,as I have a complete ,brand spankin new > > factory cassette drive with all its whistles from the factory for this > > purpose! > > Let nobody feel sad that he has no more of them themselves.Imagine having to > > handle 5 wives--although 5 Dragons may be more complient and easier! > > Walter > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bala Ganesh Chandra > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:26 AM > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > This five dragon stack has created some craze here hasnt it? When I was > > much much younger, and the only reel deck was my dad's X1000R (which was > > rotting away in pieces), he saw about 15 of these decks in a store, working. > > Unfortuntely, the store was selling electronics. It was buying scrap metal. > > > > Bala > > > > Alex Cozac wrote: > > Walter!!!! Don't wait till you pass away..SENT one of your collected > > Dragons > > to Graham...so HE will live eternity!!!! > > > > Good Luck Graham!!!!!! > > > > ALEX! > > > > > > > > >From: "Nelson" > > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:14:01 -0000 > > > > > >Indeed! How does one ingratiate oneself into your favour, Walter, so > > that > > >one might have a Dragon bequeathed in your Will? > > > > > >Grinham > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > >Behalf > > >Of Sándor István > > > Sent: 03 January 2005 16:51 > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > >! Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > Hello Walter! > > > "Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the water lying > > >in > > >waiting)" > > > > > > Are you waiting for your sixth Dragon? Unbelievable... :-))) > > > How many CR7s do you have? > > > > > > I am really envy of you... ;-) > > > > > > Happy New Year! > > > István > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: wme drewes > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:07 PM > > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > Just wondering when last your Dragon was professionally serviced by > > >people that have the correct calibration and adjustment > > >instruments(including tapes)? Do not let anyone loose on a Dragon who > > does > > >not have these items.I have 5 Dragons and those that have been serviced > > by > > >competent people(known for their competen! ce in the trade )but who dont > > have > > >the full complement of equipment dont sound as well as those that > > Stephen > > >Sank has serviced! ( The same holds for my CR 7's as well) Bear in mind > > >that > > >those not serviced by Mr Sank still sound superlative! Please dont touch > > >those "white little wheels"if you dont have the equipment for complete > > >adjustments,you might get an improvement on performance,but in all > > >propability a vast amount of further improvement will lie latent in your > > >excellent machine! > > > Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the water lying > > >in > > >waiting) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Colin Marsh > > > To: naktalk > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:43 PM > > > Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > Don't know about service for the Aiwa F990, but the XK009! that's a > > >different matter. I own both the Aiwa XK007 and 009 EXCEL! IA decks - I > > got > > >them from a local auction out of curiosity! As the pair came at a price > > of > > >only £30.00 UK it was no hardship, I later discovered that both these > > >models seem to be professional models and most found there way into > > studios > > >as mastering decks. I tried thru Aiwa and Sony to get the machines > > >serviced > > >with no luck, I tried my local repairers - with no luck. I was about to > > >give up and cut my losses but then a friend suggested a studio > > technician > > >may be my answer, I live in London UK, so there are plenty about! This > > >was > > >the answer! and both machines were duly serviced (together with my two > > >ReVox > > >R to R decks!). Service was good, fast and didn't break the bank. The > > >technician said" the Excelias are easy to work on, parts are not a > > problem > > >and Excelias tend to be robust and reliable?" > > > Depending on your location, this may be the way to go for the Aiwa > > >XK > > >! 009 Excelia.if you are in the UK I can get you in contact with "my > > man"! > > >All I can say is that it will be worth it! > > > In my opinion both of these Aiwa Excelia decks are very underated > > >machines! They don't appear for sale often in the UK, and are usually > > >studio sales. I recently saw and purchased a second 007 on ebay for > > >£18.00, > > >superbly well maintained in great order as well! For domestic use the > > only > > >problems I can see are the deepness (they are very deep!). The mains > > >transformers are bolted on the rear panel to isolate any mains hum?, and > > >having to earth the chassis can be awkward. Many are converted to > > balanced > > >outputs/inputs (one of my 007s and the 009 are) but this is easy to get > > >around. > > > In my opinion, again, both the 007 and 009 tread on my "Dragons" > > >tail > > >and equal the ZX7 when recording and playing back with DBX switched in! > > >and > > >the 009 can "chase the Dragon! " and jump ahead of the ZX7 using Dolby C > > . > > >I > > >had both the 007 and 009 calibrated for TDK SA European stock cassettes > > >that > > >are easy to get here in the UK ( I buy them by the hundred at £50.00 a > > >shot!). I find that with DBX and these tapes the Excelia's are near > > >perfect recording and playing good analogue, and thanks to DBX "kick > > ass" > > >with digital, Alas my Naks cant do that being restricted to Dolby B/C! > > > Please dont get me wrong! My Naks are some of my favourite babies > > >and > > >always will be, but I think it is fair to say that part of the Naks > > appeal > > >is due to that "little bit" that is added (Somebody told me it is called > > >"that Nak sound"). and after all they are only cassette decks! and as > > >good > > >as they are, some of my "other babies", ReVox R to Rs, fed with a good > > tape > > >and analogue source eat the Naks for breakfast! > > > I do hope you have some success with finding a repairer! > > > > > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > Maintain your account here: > > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > Main! tain your account here: > > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! 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Learn more. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Roland From flifton at mac.com Tue Jan 4 20:40:55 2005 From: flifton at mac.com (Fred Lifton) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 11:40:55 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Correct talk on naktalk In-Reply-To: <200501040803.j0482sHZ029923@zebra.naks.com> References: <200501040803.j0482sHZ029923@zebra.naks.com> Message-ID: <8CE7E3A7-5E88-11D9-8164-000D93C246E2@mac.com> Alright, as a former composition teacher and license holding doctor of english (Ph.D Duke 1995), I can't help but jump in to the OT fray here. English is "correct" when the meaning intended by the speaker is the meaning understood by the listener given the context of the utterance. Here's how I used to put it to my composition students: You are driving through rural Alabama on a hot day. Up ahead you spot a dilapidated roadside tavern with 20 Harleys parked out front. You enter, perceiving in the gloom a large number of hairy, leather-clad bikers. You saunter up to the bar to order from the 350lb bartender, a sweaty pin-headed fellow with straw still adhering to the back of his red, sunburned neck. Which of these phrases is the correct one? 1. "Sir, may I purchase a Budweiser." 2. "Gimme a Bud." Most students would usually pick sentence one as being "correct". Those students are wrong. In that context, that phrase is likelier to get you an ass-kicking than it is get you a beer. The second sentence is "correct"; considered in context it's better English than the first. So, I'd defend Gerald's english on the basis that I knew what he meant, it gives me a sense of who he is and where he's from, and it was appropriate given the context of an informal internet discussion forum. There. Oh,and Nakamichi, Nakamichi, Nakamichi. Fred On Jan 4, 2005, at 12:03 AM, naktalk-request at naks.com wrote: > From: Nelson > Date: January 3, 2005 5:09:25 PM PST > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: RE: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank > cassette? > Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > Hmmm .... as an expert in English, I should be offended by American > English, > with its corrupt spelling and divergence from the true language. I > mean, > why do those guys always say "negative" when a simple "no" would > suffice? > And what good reason was there to change the spelling of colour to > color or > tyre to tire?? <> > > So, in defence of me good ol' mate Gerald... (not that he needs me to > defend > him.) Atroshius grammor and spelin didnt stop John Clare becoming > one of > the finest poets of the English language. He's way up there with > Byron, > Keats and Wordsworth, with his nature works probably being the finest > of ALL > English speaking poets. Why, if Clare had been born a few years later > he'd > have been an analogue fan and used an all-manual Nakamichi, like a > ZX-7 !!! > > Besides, in Shakespeare's day, the more ways you could spell a word was > reckoned to show (or shew) the extent of one's creativity. Indeed, > The > Bard himself spelt his name various different ways. So, which pompous > (probably academic) git made themselves Emperor of the English > language and > decided on its rules? (Hmmm ... I'll bet their decendants work for > Sony, > Microsoft and the 53 States ... ) And if those rules count for > anything, > why do we tolerate American English at all especially the > bastardisation of > the English language by US exported corruptions of the language such as > "gay" (which once meant 'disposed of joy and mirth'), "take out" (once > meaning "to remove", now 'to kill'), "neutralize" (once meant 'to > render > neutral', not 'to kill') and the inclusion of Orwellianisms as > "collateral > damage" (which means "dead or injured civilians") and "blue on blue" > (which > means 'we just killed our own people') ??? > > What counts in really good writing are the words that are used and the > order > in which they are placed to convey a message, a feeling, a mood, not > how > they are spelt nor the arbitrary grammatical pointings about which, as > John > Claire observed, grammarians seldom agree anyway. > > And, as a student of writing (Masters Degree in Writing Studies) I'd > say > good ol' Gerald is one of the finest writers to visit NakTalk. > > He knows a thing or too about Nak's and hi fi, as well !! > > Gra' (MA) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 4247 bytes Desc: not available URL: From graker at woods-and-waters.com Tue Jan 4 19:53:17 2005 From: graker at woods-and-waters.com (Kermit V. Gray) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 13:53:17 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] For Kermit In-Reply-To: <005c01c4f1fb$2b1ca780$a6d6883e@oemcomputer> References: <005c01c4f1fb$2b1ca780$a6d6883e@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <41DAE61D.8050605@woods-and-waters.com> Hi Gra' Stereo isn't inherently better than mono, though I admit I like the added dimension it brings, if done correctly. The underlying issue is that, in truth, most stereo mixes aren’t as well made as most mono mixes were, especially in the early days of stereo. With a mono mix, you must get the microphone placement and the balances correct or the recording won’t sound too good. With a stereo mix, you can make quite a few errors yet have an acceptable recording. At one time, record labels made TWO mixes of each recording: a mono mix and a stereo mix. The mono mix was considered the important one because it was broadcast, which was where the money was, and hence was done quite well. The stereo mix was regarded as a consumer gimmick, and often as an afterthought. It's no wonder they were so mediocre. This led to a backlash among the recording buying public and a misunderstanding among HiFi buffs that, somehow, mono is/was better than stereo as far as preserving tone and musical balance. See? What's really happening is well-done mono versus poorly-done stereo. Poor technique always sounds worse then good technique, yes? Yes! I’ve found that IF you can find a flawlessly done stereo recording then you’ll have just as good a sense of tone as a good mono one, arguably better because the spatial effect makes the sound more natural and realistic, enhancing the brain's perception of "tone". When I teach recording I force my students to mix in mono at first until they’ve perfected their technique. (Oh how they grumble!) Only then are they allowed to “graduate” to stereo. Makes all the difference -- a good mono mix is much harder to achieve than you would expect. My teaching tools: Nakamichi 550, Bogen CDM mixer (mono only, no EQ on channels and bass/treble on output), three Shure SM59, two ElectroVoice 635A, two ElectroVoice DS-35 and one Sennheiser MD421U microphones. This rig can make some truly excellent recordings! If I have a big class, then one or two students are stuck with my Uher 4400 Report or 1000 Report Pilot and either Uher's mediocre M517 mic or a Shure 545. These rigs can still make quite good recordings, but being limited to only one mic and one track makes some projects challenging. (I would never force anyone to use a Nagra. That's against the Geneva Convention as inhumane treatment.) Reprocessed stereo recordings are horrible; they use reverb and wierd EQ tricks to get a stereo-like effect. Even blended back into mono they still sound awful, with rare exceptions. Nelson wrote: > Hi Kermit > > As an engineer and specialist in recording, do you feel that stereo > recording is the best way to capture the purest sound of the voices or > instruments, and (of course) the use of stereo amplifiers and speakers to > reproduce it? This may seem like a daft question. However, not so long ago > I was in conversation with a maker of some very hi end kit - that is, he > makes £250-£500 stereo decoders for vintage mono tuners, including the > celebrated (in the UK and Australia, at atleast) Leak Troughlines. (Leak, > by the way, had a Leak branded ski slope cassette deck which was made for > them by Nakamichi.) I said to him my priority was in getting the best > reproduction of the tonal quality of the instruments rather than building up > some artificial "sound stage". It's not that I didn't want "stereo" but > stereo sound is less important to me that getting the sound right, so that a > wood instruments sounds like a wood instrument, that a Steinberg sounds like > a Steinberg and not a Yamaha. His response was that I should forget stereo > altogether, that I would never get as good tonal quality to the music from > any tuner that uses a multiplex decoder. I was, "What, even your £500 > model?" He said, "Yes." > > Gra' > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > -- Kermit Gray Woods & Waters/KVG Labs 16371 Lake Point Drive Bonner Springs, KS 66012 USA 816-918-5058 cellphone 913-422-0957 business http://www.woods-and-waters.com From dgb100 at psulias.psu.edu Tue Jan 4 15:48:44 2005 From: dgb100 at psulias.psu.edu (Derrick Beckner) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 09:48:44 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? In-Reply-To: <005b01c4f1fa$0843de00$a6d6883e@oemcomputer> References: <6.1.2.0.0.20050103094627.01b92920@psulias.psu.edu> <005b01c4f1fa$0843de00$a6d6883e@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20050104093941.01b39380@psulias.psu.edu> Well that's fine. You keep telling yourself that. It is one thing for someone like Mark Twain or William Faulkner to butcher the English/American language in an effort to evoke a sense of time, place or character, quite another when you're trying to effectively communicate ideas. If a person can't take the time to present his ideas clearly and correctly, why should I believe they took adequate time to form the ideas to begin with? Everyone makes errors when typing, but at a certain point you're going to lose your audience. >What counts in really good writing are the words that are used and the order >in which they are placed to convey a message, a feeling, a mood, not how >they are spelt nor the arbitrary grammatical pointings about which, as John >Claire observed, grammarians seldom agree anyway. > >And, as a student of writing (Masters Degree in Writing Studies) I'd say >good ol' Gerald is one of the finest writers to visit NakTalk. > >He knows a thing or too about Nak's and hi fi, as well !! > >Gra' (MA) From dgb100 at psulias.psu.edu Tue Jan 4 16:25:27 2005 From: dgb100 at psulias.psu.edu (Derrick Beckner) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 10:25:27 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] CR2 for sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20050104102104.019dd540@psulias.psu.edu> I've got a CR-2 which, unfortunately, just seems to have tossed it's capistan belt or something. Play will engage, hub will try to spin but then shuts off automatically. Still works intermittently, and FF/RW function %100. Anyhow, I really have no need for it anymore and someone may want to fix it or use it for a gear upgrade. Make an offer, add shipping, and it could be yours. I have the manual as well. P.S. Oddly the CR-2 feels a little more sturdy, especially the door, than the CR-5. From bg3009 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 4 21:23:07 2005 From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 12:23:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like In-Reply-To: <00a101c4f294$86e431c0$0a904c51@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <20050104202307.87110.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> I've yet to see a Simon Yorke here where I live. The local dealer hasnt brought in any. My VPI while good, is cumbersome at times. My 78 decks though is a Thorens 124, with a SME 3010 arm.. But the Yorke can do from 16 to 90 rpm stepless and is the choice turntable for the US Library of Congress, which has 12 of these! (I think I got the library name right, but forgive me if I'm wrong). Bala Nelson wrote: Richard Delicious picture! Most interesting that your choice of record deck is, by comparison with your recording equipment, a little modest? I was expecting something like a Technics SP-10, Simon Yorke S7 professional archive turntable (http://www.recordplayer.com/archive.htm), or an EMT, perhaps. Although I read somewhere on the Web that there are some "hot" modified SL-1200's with variable speeds for the "78s'". You have me intrigued ... What is the Sony APR-16 and why was only one ever made? Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of Richard L. Hess > Sent: 04 January 2005 19:06 > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like > > > Walter, > > Glad to meet someone else with 5 Dragons -- I have four here and > a fifth waiting > for me in Los Angeles. I, too, have an NOS spare Dragon mechanism. Funny > coincidence. > > I don't have any CR7s, but I have an MR-1 for varispeed and recording. > > I also keep a bunch of Sony APR-5003V, Studer A810, and Studer > A807s running as > well as the only Sony APR-16 ever made. > > For old photos see http://www.richardhess.com/tape/facility.htm > > New photos coming...sometime. > > Cheers, > > Richard > -- > > Richard L. Hess > http://www.richardhess.com/ > > > Quoting wdrewes at iafrica.com: > > > To execute a testamentary bequest from the tip of Africa for > Graham in the UK > > is nearly as difficult as maintaining a 1000ZXL anywhere in the > world! So > > Alex I think Graham must expect a pass on that one! > > Of the 4 CR7's I bought in the last 2 years or so THREE had no > cassette well > > doors! What people do with the CR7 doors worldwide I have not > been able to > > figure out.I only have three left and am still looking for a > CR7 door for one > > of them.(CR 5 also fits,but the other CR series do not) So if > anyone finds > > one ,they will know were to post them to at a profit! > > I dont think I will not acquire more Dragons as these are enough to > > handle!I wont need more as spares,as I have a complete ,brand > spankin new > > factory cassette drive with all its whistles from the factory for this > > purpose! > > Let nobody feel sad that he has no more of them > themselves.Imagine having to > > handle 5 wives--although 5 Dragons may be more complient and easier! > > Walter > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bala Ganesh Chandra > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:26 AM > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > This five dragon stack has created some craze here hasnt it? > When I was > > much much younger, and the only reel deck was my dad's X1000R (which was > > rotting away in pieces), he saw about 15 of these decks in a > store, working. > > Unfortuntely, the store was selling electronics. It was buying > scrap metal. > > > > Bala > > > > Alex Cozac wrote: > > Walter!!!! Don't wait till you pass away..SENT one of your collected > > Dragons > > to Graham...so HE will live eternity!!!! > > > > Good Luck Graham!!!!!! > > > > ALEX! > > > > > > > > >From: "Nelson" > > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:14:01 -0000 > > > > > >Indeed! How does one ingratiate oneself into your favour, > Walter, so > > that > > >one might have a Dragon bequeathed in your Will? > > > > > >Grinham > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > >Behalf > > >Of S�ndor Istv�n > > > Sent: 03 January 2005 16:51 > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > >! Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > Hello Walter! > > > "Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce > the water lying > > >in > > >waiting)" > > > > > > Are you waiting for your sixth Dragon? Unbelievable... :-))) > > > How many CR7s do you have? > > > > > > I am really envy of you... ;-) > > > > > > Happy New Year! > > > Istv�n > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: wme drewes > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:07 PM > > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > Just wondering when last your Dragon was professionally > serviced by > > >people that have the correct calibration and adjustment > > >instruments(including tapes)? Do not let anyone loose on a > Dragon who > > does > > >not have these items.I have 5 Dragons and those that have > been serviced > > by > > >competent people(known for their competen! ce in the trade > )but who dont > > have > > >the full complement of equipment dont sound as well as those that > > Stephen > > >Sank has serviced! ( The same holds for my CR 7's as well) > Bear in mind > > >that > > >those not serviced by Mr Sank still sound superlative! > Please dont touch > > >those "white little wheels"if you dont have the equipment > for complete > > >adjustments,you might get an improvement on performance,but in all > > >propability a vast amount of further improvement will lie > latent in your > > >excellent machine! > > > Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the > water lying > > >in > > >waiting) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Colin Marsh > > > To: naktalk > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:43 PM > > > Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > Don't know about service for the Aiwa F990, but the > XK009! that's a > > >different matter. I own both the Aiwa XK007 and 009 EXCEL! > IA decks - I > > got > > >them from a local auction out of curiosity! As the pair > came at a price > > of > > >only �30.00 UK it was no hardship, I later discovered that > both these > > >models seem to be professional models and most found there way into > > studios > > >as mastering decks. I tried thru Aiwa and Sony to get the machines > > >serviced > > >with no luck, I tried my local repairers - with no luck. I > was about to > > >give up and cut my losses but then a friend suggested a studio > > technician > > >may be my answer, I live in London UK, so there are plenty > about! This > > >was > > >the answer! and both machines were duly serviced (together > with my two > > >ReVox > > >R to R decks!). Service was good, fast and didn't break > the bank. The > > >technician said" the Excelias are easy to work on, parts are not a > > problem > > >and Excelias tend to be robust and reliable?" > > > Depending on your location, this may be the way to go for the Aiwa > > >XK > > >! 009 Excelia.if you are in the UK I can get you in > contact with "my > > man"! > > >All I can say is that it will be worth it! > > > In my opinion both of these Aiwa Excelia decks are very underated > > >machines! They don't appear for sale often in the UK, and > are usually > > >studio sales. I recently saw and purchased a second 007 on ebay for > > >�18.00, > > >superbly well maintained in great order as well! For > domestic use the > > only > > >problems I can see are the deepness (they are very deep!). > The mains > > >transformers are bolted on the rear panel to isolate any > mains hum?, and > > >having to earth the chassis can be awkward. Many are converted to > > balanced > > >outputs/inputs (one of my 007s and the 009 are) but this > is easy to get > > >around. > > > In my opinion, again, both the 007 and 009 tread on my "Dragons" > > >tail > > >and equal the ZX7 when recording and playing back with DBX > switched in! > > >and > > >the 009 can "chase the Dragon! " and jump ahead of the ZX7 > using Dolby C > > . > > >I > > >had both the 007 and 009 calibrated for TDK SA European > stock cassettes > > >that > > >are easy to get here in the UK ( I buy them by the hundred > at �50.00 a > > >shot!). I find that with DBX and these tapes the Excelia's are near > > >perfect recording and playing good analogue, and thanks to > DBX "kick > > ass" > > >with digital, Alas my Naks cant do that being restricted > to Dolby B/C! > > > Please dont get me wrong! My Naks are some of my favourite babies > > >and > > >always will be, but I think it is fair to say that part of the Naks > > appeal > > >is due to that "little bit" that is added (Somebody told > me it is called > > >"that Nak sound"). and after all they are only cassette > decks! and as > > >good > > >as they are, some of my "other babies", ReVox R to Rs, fed > with a good > > tape > > >and analogue source eat the Naks for breakfast! > > > I do hope you have some success with finding a repairer! > > > > > > > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > --------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > Maintain your account here: > > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > > > > > > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > Main! tain your account here: > > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > >Maintain your account here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > Maintain your account here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! 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Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From richard at richardhess.com Tue Jan 4 22:54:54 2005 From: richard at richardhess.com (Richard L. Hess) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:54:54 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like In-Reply-To: <00a101c4f294$86e431c0$0a904c51@oemcomputer> References: <00a101c4f294$86e431c0$0a904c51@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <1104875694.41db10aeed962@www.richardhess.com> Gra' My turntable is for my own enjoyment. I don't advertise that I transfer vinyl--and generally refer that to other people. I transfer tapes as my business. The APR-16 is a one-inch, 16-track version of the 24-track 2-inch APR-24. I also have 1/2-inch 4-track, 1/2-inch 8-track, and 1-inch 8-track heads for it. It has many parts in common with the APR-24 and the APR-5003V. They made the prototype to compete with 1-inch 16 track machines from Otari, etc., just as ADATs were coming out. Hence, no one was interested. I'm not sure how it avoided the crusher, but I now have it. Most stuff today is recorded to the PC not the CDR-W33s and I'm doing a lot of stuff at 88.2/24. Cheers, Richard -- Richard L. Hess http://www.richardhess.com/ Quoting Nelson : > Richard > > Delicious picture! > > Most interesting that your choice of record deck is, by comparison with your > recording equipment, a little modest? I was expecting something like a > Technics SP-10, Simon Yorke S7 professional archive turntable > (http://www.recordplayer.com/archive.htm), or an EMT, perhaps. Although I > read somewhere on the Web that there are some "hot" modified SL-1200's with > variable speeds for the "78s'". > > You have me intrigued ... What is the Sony APR-16 and why was only one ever > made? > > Gra' > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > Behalf Of Richard L. Hess > > Sent: 04 January 2005 19:06 > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like > > > > > > Walter, > > > > Glad to meet someone else with 5 Dragons -- I have four here and > > a fifth waiting > > for me in Los Angeles. I, too, have an NOS spare Dragon mechanism. Funny > > coincidence. > > > > I don't have any CR7s, but I have an MR-1 for varispeed and recording. > > > > I also keep a bunch of Sony APR-5003V, Studer A810, and Studer > > A807s running as > > well as the only Sony APR-16 ever made. > > > > For old photos see http://www.richardhess.com/tape/facility.htm > > > > New photos coming...sometime. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Richard > > -- > > > > Richard L. Hess > > http://www.richardhess.com/ > > > > > > Quoting wdrewes at iafrica.com: > > > > > To execute a testamentary bequest from the tip of Africa for > > Graham in the UK > > > is nearly as difficult as maintaining a 1000ZXL anywhere in the > > world! So > > > Alex I think Graham must expect a pass on that one! > > > Of the 4 CR7's I bought in the last 2 years or so THREE had no > > cassette well > > > doors! What people do with the CR7 doors worldwide I have not > > been able to > > > figure out.I only have three left and am still looking for a > > CR7 door for one > > > of them.(CR 5 also fits,but the other CR series do not) So if > > anyone finds > > > one ,they will know were to post them to at a profit! > > > I dont think I will not acquire more Dragons as these are enough to > > > handle!I wont need more as spares,as I have a complete ,brand > > spankin new > > > factory cassette drive with all its whistles from the factory for this > > > purpose! > > > Let nobody feel sad that he has no more of them > > themselves.Imagine having to > > > handle 5 wives--although 5 Dragons may be more complient and easier! > > > Walter > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bala Ganesh Chandra > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:26 AM > > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > This five dragon stack has created some craze here hasnt it? > > When I was > > > much much younger, and the only reel deck was my dad's X1000R (which was > > > rotting away in pieces), he saw about 15 of these decks in a > > store, working. > > > Unfortuntely, the store was selling electronics. It was buying > > scrap metal. > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > Alex Cozac wrote: > > > Walter!!!! Don't wait till you pass away..SENT one of your collected > > > Dragons > > > to Graham...so HE will live eternity!!!! > > > > > > Good Luck Graham!!!!!! > > > > > > ALEX! > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Nelson" > > > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > > > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:14:01 -0000 > > > > > > > >Indeed! How does one ingratiate oneself into your favour, > > Walter, so > > > that > > > >one might have a Dragon bequeathed in your Will? > > > > > > > >Grinham > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > > >Behalf > > > >Of Sándor István > > > > Sent: 03 January 2005 16:51 > > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > >! Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Walter! > > > > "Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce > > the water lying > > > >in > > > >waiting)" > > > > > > > > Are you waiting for your sixth Dragon? Unbelievable... :-))) > > > > How many CR7s do you have? > > > > > > > > I am really envy of you... ;-) > > > > > > > > Happy New Year! > > > > István > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: wme drewes > > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:07 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering when last your Dragon was professionally > > serviced by > > > >people that have the correct calibration and adjustment > > > >instruments(including tapes)? Do not let anyone loose on a > > Dragon who > > > does > > > >not have these items.I have 5 Dragons and those that have > > been serviced > > > by > > > >competent people(known for their competen! ce in the trade > > )but who dont > > > have > > > >the full complement of equipment dont sound as well as those that > > > Stephen > > > >Sank has serviced! ( The same holds for my CR 7's as well) > > Bear in mind > > > >that > > > >those not serviced by Mr Sank still sound superlative! > > Please dont touch > > > >those "white little wheels"if you dont have the equipment > > for complete > > > >adjustments,you might get an improvement on performance,but in all > > > >propability a vast amount of further improvement will lie > > latent in your > > > >excellent machine! > > > > Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the > > water lying > > > >in > > > >waiting) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Colin Marsh > > > > To: naktalk > > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:43 PM > > > > Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't know about service for the Aiwa F990, but the > > XK009! that's a > > > >different matter. I own both the Aiwa XK007 and 009 EXCEL! > > IA decks - I > > > got > > > >them from a local auction out of curiosity! As the pair > > came at a price > > > of > > > >only £30.00 UK it was no hardship, I later discovered that > > both these > > > >models seem to be professional models and most found there way into > > > studios > > > >as mastering decks. I tried thru Aiwa and Sony to get the machines > > > >serviced > > > >with no luck, I tried my local repairers - with no luck. I > > was about to > > > >give up and cut my losses but then a friend suggested a studio > > > technician > > > >may be my answer, I live in London UK, so there are plenty > > about! This > > > >was > > > >the answer! and both machines were duly serviced (together > > with my two > > > >ReVox > > > >R to R decks!). Service was good, fast and didn't break > > the bank. The > > > >technician said" the Excelias are easy to work on, parts are not a > > > problem > > > >and Excelias tend to be robust and reliable?" > > > > Depending on your location, this may be the way to go for the Aiwa > > > >XK > > > >! 009 Excelia.if you are in the UK I can get you in > > contact with "my > > > man"! > > > >All I can say is that it will be worth it! > > > > In my opinion both of these Aiwa Excelia decks are very underated > > > >machines! They don't appear for sale often in the UK, and > > are usually > > > >studio sales. I recently saw and purchased a second 007 on ebay for > > > >£18.00, > > > >superbly well maintained in great order as well! For > > domestic use the > > > only > > > >problems I can see are the deepness (they are very deep!). > > The mains > > > >transformers are bolted on the rear panel to isolate any > > mains hum?, and > > > >having to earth the chassis can be awkward. Many are converted to > > > balanced > > > >outputs/inputs (one of my 007s and the 009 are) but this > > is easy to get > > > >around. > > > > In my opinion, again, both the 007 and 009 tread on my "Dragons" > > > >tail > > > >and equal the ZX7 when recording and playing back with DBX > > switched in! > > > >and > > > >the 009 can "chase the Dragon! " and jump ahead of the ZX7 > > using Dolby C > > > . > > > >I > > > >had both the 007 and 009 calibrated for TDK SA European > > stock cassettes > > > >that > > > >are easy to get here in the UK ( I buy them by the hundred > > at £50.00 a > > > >shot!). I find that with DBX and these tapes the Excelia's are near > > > >perfect recording and playing good analogue, and thanks to > > DBX "kick > > > ass" > > > >with digital, Alas my Naks cant do that being restricted > > to Dolby B/C! > > > > Please dont get me wrong! My Naks are some of my favourite babies > > > >and > > > >always will be, but I think it is fair to say that part of the Naks > > > appeal > > > >is due to that "little bit" that is added (Somebody told > > me it is called > > > >"that Nak sound"). and after all they are only cassette > > decks! and as > > > >good > > > >as they are, some of my "other babies", ReVox R to Rs, fed > > with a good > > > tape > > > >and analogue source eat the Naks for breakfast! > > > > I do hope you have some success with finding a repairer! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > Maintain your account here: > > > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > Main! tain your account here: > > > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > >Maintain your account here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > > > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > Maintain your account here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! 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Learn more. > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------ > > > > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > Maintain your account here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From graker at woods-and-waters.com Wed Jan 5 06:17:55 2005 From: graker at woods-and-waters.com (Kermit V. Gray) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 00:17:55 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Alignment cassettes In-Reply-To: <20050104193050.15188.qmail@web40428.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050104193050.15188.qmail@web40428.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <41DB7883.70303@woods-and-waters.com> Hi Scott, Have an alignment cassette question for you. How do I compensate for the differences between IEC1 and IEC2 eq curves when checking an IEC1 Nak but using an IEC2 alignment cassette? My guess is that the IEC2 tape will read +4 dB more at 15 kHz than an IEC1 tape. So, instead of checking that the 15 kHz tone reads -10 VU, I'd let it read - 6 VU (with 1 kHz and below still reading -10 VU)? Or is this wrong? N-Joy! -- Kermit Gray Woods & Waters/KVG Labs 16371 Lake Point Drive Bonner Springs, KS 66012 USA 816-918-5058 cellphone 913-422-0957 business http://www.woods-and-waters.com From alexcozac at hotmail.com Wed Jan 5 09:50:12 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 10:50:12 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like In-Reply-To: <20050104202307.87110.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Dear Bala! $:7,000 for a Turntable..., the Yorke!!! I can live with my vintage Technics SL-120 yet!!! ALEX! >From: Bala Ganesh Chandra >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 12:23:07 -0800 (PST) > >I've yet to see a Simon Yorke here where I live. The local dealer hasnt >brought in any. My VPI while good, is cumbersome at times. My 78 decks >though is a Thorens 124, with a SME 3010 arm.. But the Yorke can do from 16 >to 90 rpm stepless and is the choice turntable for the US Library of >Congress, which has 12 of these! (I think I got the library name right, >but forgive me if I'm wrong). > >Bala > >Nelson wrote: >Richard > >Delicious picture! > >Most interesting that your choice of record deck is, by comparison with >your >recording equipment, a little modest? I was expecting something like a >Technics SP-10, Simon Yorke S7 professional archive turntable >(http://www.recordplayer.com/archive.htm), or an EMT, perhaps. Although I >read somewhere on the Web that there are some "hot" modified SL-1200's with >variable speeds for the "78s'". > >You have me intrigued ... What is the Sony APR-16 and why was only one ever >made? > >Gra' > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > Behalf Of Richard L. Hess > > Sent: 04 January 2005 19:06 > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like > > > > > > Walter, > > > > Glad to meet someone else with 5 Dragons -- I have four here and > > a fifth waiting > > for me in Los Angeles. I, too, have an NOS spare Dragon mechanism. Funny > > coincidence. > > > > I don't have any CR7s, but I have an MR-1 for varispeed and recording. > > > > I also keep a bunch of Sony APR-5003V, Studer A810, and Studer > > A807s running as > > well as the only Sony APR-16 ever made. > > > > For old photos see http://www.richardhess.com/tape/facility.htm > > > > New photos coming...sometime. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Richard > > -- > > > > Richard L. Hess > > http://www.richardhess.com/ > > > > > > Quoting wdrewes at iafrica.com: > > > > > To execute a testamentary bequest from the tip of Africa for > > Graham in the UK > > > is nearly as difficult as maintaining a 1000ZXL anywhere in the > > world! So > > > Alex I think Graham must expect a pass on that one! > > > Of the 4 CR7's I bought in the last 2 years or so THREE had no > > cassette well > > > doors! What people do with the CR7 doors worldwide I have not > > been able to > > > figure out.I only have three left and am still looking for a > > CR7 door for one > > > of them.(CR 5 also fits,but the other CR series do not) So if > > anyone finds > > > one ,they will know were to post them to at a profit! > > > I dont think I will not acquire more Dragons as these are enough to > > > handle!I wont need more as spares,as I have a complete ,brand > > spankin new > > > factory cassette drive with all its whistles from the factory for this > > > purpose! > > > Let nobody feel sad that he has no more of them > > themselves.Imagine having to > > > handle 5 wives--although 5 Dragons may be more complient and easier! > > > Walter > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bala Ganesh Chandra > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:26 AM > > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > This five dragon stack has created some craze here hasnt it? > > When I was > > > much much younger, and the only reel deck was my dad's X1000R (which >was > > > rotting away in pieces), he saw about 15 of these decks in a > > store, working. > > > Unfortuntely, the store was selling electronics. It was buying > > scrap metal. > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > Alex Cozac wrote: > > > Walter!!!! Don't wait till you pass away..SENT one of your collected > > > Dragons > > > to Graham...so HE will live eternity!!!! > > > > > > Good Luck Graham!!!!!! > > > > > > ALEX! > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Nelson" > > > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > > > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:14:01 -0000 > > > > > > > >Indeed! How does one ingratiate oneself into your favour, > > Walter, so > > > that > > > >one might have a Dragon bequeathed in your Will? > > > > > > > >Grinham > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > > >Behalf > > > >Of S�ndor Istv�n > > > > Sent: 03 January 2005 16:51 > > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > >! Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Walter! > > > > "Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce > > the water lying > > > >in > > > >waiting)" > > > > > > > > Are you waiting for your sixth Dragon? Unbelievable... :-))) > > > > How many CR7s do you have? > > > > > > > > I am really envy of you... ;-) > > > > > > > > Happy New Year! > > > > Istv�n > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: wme drewes > > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:07 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering when last your Dragon was professionally > > serviced by > > > >people that have the correct calibration and adjustment > > > >instruments(including tapes)? Do not let anyone loose on a > > Dragon who > > > does > > > >not have these items.I have 5 Dragons and those that have > > been serviced > > > by > > > >competent people(known for their competen! ce in the trade > > )but who dont > > > have > > > >the full complement of equipment dont sound as well as those that > > > Stephen > > > >Sank has serviced! ( The same holds for my CR 7's as well) > > Bear in mind > > > >that > > > >those not serviced by Mr Sank still sound superlative! > > Please dont touch > > > >those "white little wheels"if you dont have the equipment > > for complete > > > >adjustments,you might get an improvement on performance,but in all > > > >propability a vast amount of further improvement will lie > > latent in your > > > >excellent machine! > > > > Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the > > water lying > > > >in > > > >waiting) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Colin Marsh > > > > To: naktalk > > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:43 PM > > > > Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't know about service for the Aiwa F990, but the > > XK009! that's a > > > >different matter. I own both the Aiwa XK007 and 009 EXCEL! > > IA decks - I > > > got > > > >them from a local auction out of curiosity! As the pair > > came at a price > > > of > > > >only �30.00 UK it was no hardship, I later discovered that > > both these > > > >models seem to be professional models and most found there way into > > > studios > > > >as mastering decks. I tried thru Aiwa and Sony to get the machines > > > >serviced > > > >with no luck, I tried my local repairers - with no luck. I > > was about to > > > >give up and cut my losses but then a friend suggested a studio > > > technician > > > >may be my answer, I live in London UK, so there are plenty > > about! This > > > >was > > > >the answer! and both machines were duly serviced (together > > with my two > > > >ReVox > > > >R to R decks!). Service was good, fast and didn't break > > the bank. The > > > >technician said" the Excelias are easy to work on, parts are not a > > > problem > > > >and Excelias tend to be robust and reliable?" > > > > Depending on your location, this may be the way to go for the Aiwa > > > >XK > > > >! 009 Excelia.if you are in the UK I can get you in > > contact with "my > > > man"! > > > >All I can say is that it will be worth it! > > > > In my opinion both of these Aiwa Excelia decks are very underated > > > >machines! They don't appear for sale often in the UK, and > > are usually > > > >studio sales. I recently saw and purchased a second 007 on ebay for > > > >�18.00, > > > >superbly well maintained in great order as well! For > > domestic use the > > > only > > > >problems I can see are the deepness (they are very deep!). > > The mains > > > >transformers are bolted on the rear panel to isolate any > > mains hum?, and > > > >having to earth the chassis can be awkward. Many are converted to > > > balanced > > > >outputs/inputs (one of my 007s and the 009 are) but this > > is easy to get > > > >around. > > > > In my opinion, again, both the 007 and 009 tread on my "Dragons" > > > >tail > > > >and equal the ZX7 when recording and playing back with DBX > > switched in! > > > >and > > > >the 009 can "chase the Dragon! " and jump ahead of the ZX7 > > using Dolby C > > > . > > > >I > > > >had both the 007 and 009 calibrated for TDK SA European > > stock cassettes > > > >that > > > >are easy to get here in the UK ( I buy them by the hundred > > at �50.00 a > > > >shot!). I find that with DBX and these tapes the Excelia's are near > > > >perfect recording and playing good analogue, and thanks to > > DBX "kick > > > ass" > > > >with digital, Alas my Naks cant do that being restricted > > to Dolby B/C! > > > > Please dont get me wrong! My Naks are some of my favourite babies > > > >and > > > >always will be, but I think it is fair to say that part of the Naks > > > appeal > > > >is due to that "little bit" that is added (Somebody told > > me it is called > > > >"that Nak sound"). and after all they are only cassette > > decks! and as > > > >good > > > >as they are, some of my "other babies", ReVox R to Rs, fed > > with a good > > > tape > > > >and analogue source eat the Naks for breakfast! > > > > I do hope you have some success with finding a repairer! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > Maintain your account here: > > > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > Main! tain your account here: > > > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > >Maintain your account here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > > > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > Maintain your account here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! 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Mail SpamGuard. >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From alexcozac at hotmail.com Wed Jan 5 10:17:27 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 11:17:27 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] For Kermit Message-ID: Dear Bala! Just I sent to your Yahoo address, two digit photos, that I take it specially for you! Will show my equipment minus the turntable that is cover with a cloth, and part of my ONE JBL speaker. PS..Who want to look my equipment, please Off of Topic send me your mail address! Cheers, ALEX! ALEX! >From: Bala Ganesh Chandra >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Kermit >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 09:12:27 -0800 (PST) > >Wow Alex, you hit the nail real exact. I was talking about that and the 77. >I have a friend who sent me snips of a mail sent to him by the designer >Modafferi who acknowledges the better of them both in sonic terms. Also, >there is elsewhere a detailed study in at which stages the 78 was designed >to sacrifice sound quality for signal strength. And of course, 30 years on, >there are things that can be done to get a better sound, without >sacrificing the DX capability of the '78. I have the 77, 78 and 80 and I >prefer the relax sound of the 77. > >Bala > >Alex Cozac wrote: >Dear Bala! > >Sorry but... I DON'T AGREED! Today I use also from my family a McIntosh >MR-78 with his originally walnut cabinet in our family since >1974...UNTOUCHED SINCE THEN...! and such newer "Digitally" tuner...sorry to >write is simple a "SHIT"...in sound quality!!! > >ALEX! > > > > >From: Bala Ganesh Chandra > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Kermit > >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 00:48:22 -0800 (PST) > > > >Hi Graham, and Kermit, > > > > I am not quite suprised by the encounter. Many times, these > >days, people get mixed with a good sound, and a true sound. My preference > >is for something which I can sit down, and listen for hours at end, and > >sounds natural. Almost, as if, the singer was there. That is true sound. >I > >realize that sometimes, this results in a mellow, and 'warm' sound with a > >slight rolled of treble.. as some describe. Recently, I went thru a >debate > >of two sister tuner models made by the same company. They both employ the > >same audio section, but the IF and filters are totally different. When >new, > >the cheaper one went for USD 700. The more advanced IF version cost a >full > >USD1700! When compared side by side, the costlier version seems to > >outshine, with a clearer sound, better treble and so on. Its so good, you > >can plug out the antannae cable and this baby would still pull stations > >with a good signal strength! (In case you guys out there wonder, this was > >the tuner that ousted the Marantz 10! > > B). The > > cheaper one had to have a good and strong signal. Yet, 30 years after >all > >that, today the designer is helping people upgrade the more expensive >tuner > >to have a similiar sonic signature to the cheaper tuner! Reason? I put >back > >both tuners and when I listen carefully, the cheaper one, with a simpler > >filter and all that was more relaxed, more natural and had the most > >beautiful violins I ever heard on the airwaves. > > > >There are more examples when more money does not mean better sound ( >point > >is what do we define as good sound?). But then again, money put in the > >right places, might yield what I'd call a true sound. In case guys out > >there are interested, I am considering plans to incorporate tubes in my >Nak > >680. > > > >Bala > > > >Nelson wrote: > >Hi Kermit > > > >As an engineer and specialist in recording, do you feel that stereo > >recording is the best way to capture the purest sound of the voices or > >instruments, and (of course) the use of stereo amplifiers and speakers to > >reproduce it? This may seem like a daft question. However, not so long >ago > >I was in conversation with a maker of some very hi end kit - that is, he > >makes �250-�500 stereo decoders for vintage mono tuners, including the > >celebrated (in the UK and Australia, at atleast) Leak Troughlines. (Leak, > >by the way, had a Leak branded ski slope cassette deck which was made for > >them by Nakamichi.) I said to him my priority was in getting the best > >reproduction of the tonal quality of the instruments rather than building > >up > >some artificial "sound stage". It's not that I didn't want "stereo" but > >stereo sound is less important to me that getting the sound right, so >that > >a > >wood instruments sounds like a wood instrument, that a Steinberg sounds > >like > >a Steinberg and not a Yamaha. His response was that I should forget >stereo > >altogether, that I would never get as good tonal quality to the music >from > >any tuner that uses a multiplex decoder. I was, "What, even your �500 > >model?" 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Learn more. >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Wed Jan 5 10:19:51 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 09:19:51 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20050104093941.01b39380@psulias.psu.edu> Message-ID: <004501c4f307$b6a1e380$fdd94c51@oemcomputer> "If a person can't take the time to present his ideas clearly and correctly, why should I believe they took adequate time to form the ideas to begin with? " Answer: For the same reason as you'd not judge a fellow by the colour of his skin ... or the clothes he chooses to wear, the God he worships, or the Nakamichi he owns ... PS I noticed some grammatical errors - a missed / misplaced commas and a missed word in your email! Should one draw any conclusions from that? <> > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of Derrick Beckner > Sent: 04 January 2005 14:49 > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette > Decks > Subject: RE: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank > cassette? > > > Well that's fine. You keep telling yourself that. > It is one thing for someone like Mark Twain or William Faulkner > to butcher > the English/American language in an effort to evoke a sense of > time, place > or character, quite another when you're trying to effectively communicate > ideas. If a person can't take the time to present his ideas clearly and > correctly, why should I believe they took adequate time to form the ideas > to begin with? Everyone makes errors when typing, but at a certain point > you're going to lose your audience. > > > > >What counts in really good writing are the words that are used > and the order > >in which they are placed to convey a message, a feeling, a mood, not how > >they are spelt nor the arbitrary grammatical pointings about > which, as John > >Claire observed, grammarians seldom agree anyway. > > > >And, as a student of writing (Masters Degree in Writing Studies) I'd say > >good ol' Gerald is one of the finest writers to visit NakTalk. > > > >He knows a thing or too about Nak's and hi fi, as well !! > > > >Gra' (MA) > > From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Wed Jan 5 10:52:31 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 09:52:31 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] For Kermit In-Reply-To: <41DAE61D.8050605@woods-and-waters.com> Message-ID: <004f01c4f30c$477abe00$fdd94c51@oemcomputer> That's most interesting, Kermit. I take your point about recording in stereo and taking that signal through the line back to reproduction. I suppose (at least it seems in my greenhorn way!) that the matter is a little different with FM radio, where additional circuit is required to demodulate the signal and reproduce the stereo. Thence, perhaps something of the tonal quality captured and transmitted will inevitably be lost at that stage. I have certainly noticed that my tuners offer better mid range (e.g. voices) when the stereo circuit is switched out for mono output. So, when I am recording off air (usually onto my Nak ZX-9) sometimes I use the mono signal - e.g. for orchestral pieces or piano solo, where (it seems to me) the stereo image adds little to my enjoyment, or at least not as much as hearing the difference between a violin and a viola when the orchestra is in full flow (which seem more apparent with the mono output.) You said, "I would never force anyone to use a Nagra. That's against the Geneva Convention as inhumane treatment" Yeah, I heard they'd been doing that to some of the captured Taliban and blaming it on the FBI! Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of Kermit V. Gray > Sent: 04 January 2005 18:53 > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: Re: [naktalk] For Kermit > > > Hi Gra' > > Stereo isn't inherently better than mono, though I admit I like the > added dimension it brings, if done correctly. The underlying issue is > that, in truth, most stereo mixes aren’t as well made as most mono mixes > were, especially in the early days of stereo. With a mono mix, you must > get the microphone placement and the balances correct or the recording > won’t sound too good. With a stereo mix, you can make quite a few errors > yet have an acceptable recording. At one time, record labels made TWO > mixes of each recording: a mono mix and a stereo mix. The mono mix was > considered the important one because it was broadcast, which was where > the money was, and hence was done quite well. The stereo mix was > regarded as a consumer gimmick, and often as an afterthought. It's no > wonder they were so mediocre. This led to a backlash among the recording > buying public and a misunderstanding among HiFi buffs that, somehow, > mono is/was better than stereo as far as preserving tone and musical > balance. See? What's really happening is well-done mono versus > poorly-done stereo. Poor technique always sounds worse then good > technique, yes? Yes! > > I’ve found that IF you can find a flawlessly done stereo recording then > you’ll have just as good a sense of tone as a good mono one, arguably > better because the spatial effect makes the sound more natural and > realistic, enhancing the brain's perception of "tone". > > When I teach recording I force my students to mix in mono at first until > they’ve perfected their technique. (Oh how they grumble!) Only then are > they allowed to “graduate” to stereo. Makes all the difference -- a good > mono mix is much harder to achieve than you would expect. > > My teaching tools: Nakamichi 550, Bogen CDM mixer (mono only, no EQ on > channels and bass/treble on output), three Shure SM59, two ElectroVoice > 635A, two ElectroVoice DS-35 and one Sennheiser MD421U microphones. This > rig can make some truly excellent recordings! If I have a big class, > then one or two students are stuck with my Uher 4400 Report or 1000 > Report Pilot and either Uher's mediocre M517 mic or a Shure 545. These > rigs can still make quite good recordings, but being limited to only one > mic and one track makes some projects challenging. (I would never force > anyone to use a Nagra. That's against the Geneva Convention as inhumane > treatment.) > > Reprocessed stereo recordings are horrible; they use reverb and wierd EQ > tricks to get a stereo-like effect. Even blended back into mono they > still sound awful, with rare exceptions. > > > Nelson wrote: > > Hi Kermit > > > > As an engineer and specialist in recording, do you feel that stereo > > recording is the best way to capture the purest sound of the voices or > > instruments, and (of course) the use of stereo amplifiers and > speakers to > > reproduce it? This may seem like a daft question. However, > not so long ago > > I was in conversation with a maker of some very hi end kit - > that is, he > > makes £250-£500 stereo decoders for vintage mono tuners, including the > > celebrated (in the UK and Australia, at atleast) Leak > Troughlines. (Leak, > > by the way, had a Leak branded ski slope cassette deck which > was made for > > them by Nakamichi.) I said to him my priority was in getting the best > > reproduction of the tonal quality of the instruments rather > than building up > > some artificial "sound stage". It's not that I didn't want > "stereo" but > > stereo sound is less important to me that getting the sound > right, so that a > > wood instruments sounds like a wood instrument, that a > Steinberg sounds like > > a Steinberg and not a Yamaha. His response was that I should > forget stereo > > altogether, that I would never get as good tonal quality to the > music from > > any tuner that uses a multiplex decoder. I was, "What, even your £500 > > model?" He said, "Yes." > > > > Gra' > > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > > -- > Kermit Gray > Woods & Waters/KVG Labs > 16371 Lake Point Drive > Bonner Springs, KS 66012 > USA > 816-918-5058 cellphone > 913-422-0957 business > http://www.woods-and-waters.com > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From alexcozac at hotmail.com Wed Jan 5 11:36:25 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 12:36:25 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] For Kermit In-Reply-To: <004f01c4f30c$477abe00$fdd94c51@oemcomputer> Message-ID: Dear Graham! You said, "I would never force anyone to use a Nagra. That's against the Geneva Convention as inhumane treatment" Yeah, I heard they'd been doing that to some of the captured Taliban and blaming it on the FBI! I Think...that is to expensive for the most of us!!! Uher's are much...much cheaper; and do the same for mostly of us!! ALEX! >From: "Nelson" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Kermit >Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 09:52:31 -0000 > >That's most interesting, Kermit. I take your point about recording in >stereo and taking that signal through the line back to reproduction. I >suppose (at least it seems in my greenhorn way!) that the matter is a >little >different with FM radio, where additional circuit is required to demodulate >the signal and reproduce the stereo. Thence, perhaps something of the >tonal >quality captured and transmitted will inevitably be lost at that stage. I >have certainly noticed that my tuners offer better mid range (e.g. voices) >when the stereo circuit is switched out for mono output. So, when I am >recording off air (usually onto my Nak ZX-9) sometimes I use the mono >signal - e.g. for orchestral pieces or piano solo, where (it seems to me) >the stereo image adds little to my enjoyment, or at least not as much as >hearing the difference between a violin and a viola when the orchestra is >in >full flow (which seem more apparent with the mono output.) > >You said, "I would never force anyone to use a Nagra. That's against the >Geneva Convention as inhumane treatment" Yeah, I heard they'd been doing >that to some of the captured Taliban and blaming it on the FBI! > >Gra' > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > Behalf Of Kermit V. Gray > > Sent: 04 January 2005 18:53 > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] For Kermit > > > > > > Hi Gra' > > > > Stereo isn't inherently better than mono, though I admit I like the > > added dimension it brings, if done correctly. The underlying issue is > > that, in truth, most stereo mixes aren�t as well made as most mono mixes > > were, especially in the early days of stereo. With a mono mix, you must > > get the microphone placement and the balances correct or the recording > > won�t sound too good. With a stereo mix, you can make quite a few errors > > yet have an acceptable recording. At one time, record labels made TWO > > mixes of each recording: a mono mix and a stereo mix. The mono mix was > > considered the important one because it was broadcast, which was where > > the money was, and hence was done quite well. The stereo mix was > > regarded as a consumer gimmick, and often as an afterthought. It's no > > wonder they were so mediocre. This led to a backlash among the recording > > buying public and a misunderstanding among HiFi buffs that, somehow, > > mono is/was better than stereo as far as preserving tone and musical > > balance. See? What's really happening is well-done mono versus > > poorly-done stereo. Poor technique always sounds worse then good > > technique, yes? Yes! > > > > I�ve found that IF you can find a flawlessly done stereo recording then > > you�ll have just as good a sense of tone as a good mono one, arguably > > better because the spatial effect makes the sound more natural and > > realistic, enhancing the brain's perception of "tone". > > > > When I teach recording I force my students to mix in mono at first until > > they�ve perfected their technique. (Oh how they grumble!) Only then are > > they allowed to �graduate� to stereo. Makes all the difference -- a good > > mono mix is much harder to achieve than you would expect. > > > > My teaching tools: Nakamichi 550, Bogen CDM mixer (mono only, no EQ on > > channels and bass/treble on output), three Shure SM59, two ElectroVoice > > 635A, two ElectroVoice DS-35 and one Sennheiser MD421U microphones. This > > rig can make some truly excellent recordings! If I have a big class, > > then one or two students are stuck with my Uher 4400 Report or 1000 > > Report Pilot and either Uher's mediocre M517 mic or a Shure 545. These > > rigs can still make quite good recordings, but being limited to only one > > mic and one track makes some projects challenging. (I would never force > > anyone to use a Nagra. That's against the Geneva Convention as inhumane > > treatment.) > > > > Reprocessed stereo recordings are horrible; they use reverb and wierd EQ > > tricks to get a stereo-like effect. Even blended back into mono they > > still sound awful, with rare exceptions. > > > > > > Nelson wrote: > > > Hi Kermit > > > > > > As an engineer and specialist in recording, do you feel that stereo > > > recording is the best way to capture the purest sound of the voices or > > > instruments, and (of course) the use of stereo amplifiers and > > speakers to > > > reproduce it? This may seem like a daft question. However, > > not so long ago > > > I was in conversation with a maker of some very hi end kit - > > that is, he > > > makes �250-�500 stereo decoders for vintage mono tuners, including the > > > celebrated (in the UK and Australia, at atleast) Leak > > Troughlines. (Leak, > > > by the way, had a Leak branded ski slope cassette deck which > > was made for > > > them by Nakamichi.) I said to him my priority was in getting the best > > > reproduction of the tonal quality of the instruments rather > > than building up > > > some artificial "sound stage". It's not that I didn't want > > "stereo" but > > > stereo sound is less important to me that getting the sound > > right, so that a > > > wood instruments sounds like a wood instrument, that a > > Steinberg sounds like > > > a Steinberg and not a Yamaha. His response was that I should > > forget stereo > > > altogether, that I would never get as good tonal quality to the > > music from > > > any tuner that uses a multiplex decoder. I was, "What, even your �500 > > > model?" He said, "Yes." > > > > > > Gra' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > Maintain your account here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Kermit Gray > > Woods & Waters/KVG Labs > > 16371 Lake Point Drive > > Bonner Springs, KS 66012 > > USA > > 816-918-5058 cellphone > > 913-422-0957 business > > http://www.woods-and-waters.com > > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From bg3009 at yahoo.com Wed Jan 5 09:53:32 2005 From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 00:53:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like In-Reply-To: <1104875694.41db10aeed962@www.richardhess.com> Message-ID: <20050105085332.89116.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> I guess while the W33s give a great sound, recording to pcs give a more accurate sound. But whats 88.2/24? Bala "Richard L. Hess" wrote: Gra' My turntable is for my own enjoyment. I don't advertise that I transfer vinyl--and generally refer that to other people. I transfer tapes as my business. The APR-16 is a one-inch, 16-track version of the 24-track 2-inch APR-24. I also have 1/2-inch 4-track, 1/2-inch 8-track, and 1-inch 8-track heads for it. It has many parts in common with the APR-24 and the APR-5003V. They made the prototype to compete with 1-inch 16 track machines from Otari, etc., just as ADATs were coming out. Hence, no one was interested. I'm not sure how it avoided the crusher, but I now have it. Most stuff today is recorded to the PC not the CDR-W33s and I'm doing a lot of stuff at 88.2/24. Cheers, Richard -- Richard L. Hess http://www.richardhess.com/ Quoting Nelson : > Richard > > Delicious picture! > > Most interesting that your choice of record deck is, by comparison with your > recording equipment, a little modest? I was expecting something like a > Technics SP-10, Simon Yorke S7 professional archive turntable > (http://www.recordplayer.com/archive.htm), or an EMT, perhaps. Although I > read somewhere on the Web that there are some "hot" modified SL-1200's with > variable speeds for the "78s'". > > You have me intrigued ... What is the Sony APR-16 and why was only one ever > made? > > Gra' > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > Behalf Of Richard L. Hess > > Sent: 04 January 2005 19:06 > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like > > > > > > Walter, > > > > Glad to meet someone else with 5 Dragons -- I have four here and > > a fifth waiting > > for me in Los Angeles. I, too, have an NOS spare Dragon mechanism. Funny > > coincidence. > > > > I don't have any CR7s, but I have an MR-1 for varispeed and recording. > > > > I also keep a bunch of Sony APR-5003V, Studer A810, and Studer > > A807s running as > > well as the only Sony APR-16 ever made. > > > > For old photos see http://www.richardhess.com/tape/facility.htm > > > > New photos coming...sometime. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Richard > > -- > > > > Richard L. Hess > > http://www.richardhess.com/ > > > > > > Quoting wdrewes at iafrica.com: > > > > > To execute a testamentary bequest from the tip of Africa for > > Graham in the UK > > > is nearly as difficult as maintaining a 1000ZXL anywhere in the > > world! So > > > Alex I think Graham must expect a pass on that one! > > > Of the 4 CR7's I bought in the last 2 years or so THREE had no > > cassette well > > > doors! What people do with the CR7 doors worldwide I have not > > been able to > > > figure out.I only have three left and am still looking for a > > CR7 door for one > > > of them.(CR 5 also fits,but the other CR series do not) So if > > anyone finds > > > one ,they will know were to post them to at a profit! > > > I dont think I will not acquire more Dragons as these are enough to > > > handle!I wont need more as spares,as I have a complete ,brand > > spankin new > > > factory cassette drive with all its whistles from the factory for this > > > purpose! > > > Let nobody feel sad that he has no more of them > > themselves.Imagine having to > > > handle 5 wives--although 5 Dragons may be more complient and easier! > > > Walter > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bala Ganesh Chandra > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:26 AM > > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > This five dragon stack has created some craze here hasnt it? > > When I was > > > much much younger, and the only reel deck was my dad's X1000R (which was > > > rotting away in pieces), he saw about 15 of these decks in a > > store, working. > > > Unfortuntely, the store was selling electronics. It was buying > > scrap metal. > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > Alex Cozac wrote: > > > Walter!!!! Don't wait till you pass away..SENT one of your collected > > > Dragons > > > to Graham...so HE will live eternity!!!! > > > > > > Good Luck Graham!!!!!! > > > > > > ALEX! > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Nelson" > > > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > > > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:14:01 -0000 > > > > > > > >Indeed! How does one ingratiate oneself into your favour, > > Walter, so > > > that > > > >one might have a Dragon bequeathed in your Will? > > > > > > > >Grinham > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > > >Behalf > > > >Of S�ndor Istv�n > > > > Sent: 03 January 2005 16:51 > > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > >! Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Walter! > > > > "Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce > > the water lying > > > >in > > > >waiting)" > > > > > > > > Are you waiting for your sixth Dragon? Unbelievable... :-))) > > > > How many CR7s do you have? > > > > > > > > I am really envy of you... ;-) > > > > > > > > Happy New Year! > > > > Istv�n > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: wme drewes > > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:07 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering when last your Dragon was professionally > > serviced by > > > >people that have the correct calibration and adjustment > > > >instruments(including tapes)? Do not let anyone loose on a > > Dragon who > > > does > > > >not have these items.I have 5 Dragons and those that have > > been serviced > > > by > > > >competent people(known for their competen! ce in the trade > > )but who dont > > > have > > > >the full complement of equipment dont sound as well as those that > > > Stephen > > > >Sank has serviced! ( The same holds for my CR 7's as well) > > Bear in mind > > > >that > > > >those not serviced by Mr Sank still sound superlative! > > Please dont touch > > > >those "white little wheels"if you dont have the equipment > > for complete > > > >adjustments,you might get an improvement on performance,but in all > > > >propability a vast amount of further improvement will lie > > latent in your > > > >excellent machine! > > > > Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the > > water lying > > > >in > > > >waiting) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Colin Marsh > > > > To: naktalk > > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:43 PM > > > > Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't know about service for the Aiwa F990, but the > > XK009! that's a > > > >different matter. I own both the Aiwa XK007 and 009 EXCEL! > > IA decks - I > > > got > > > >them from a local auction out of curiosity! As the pair > > came at a price > > > of > > > >only �30.00 UK it was no hardship, I later discovered that > > both these > > > >models seem to be professional models and most found there way into > > > studios > > > >as mastering decks. I tried thru Aiwa and Sony to get the machines > > > >serviced > > > >with no luck, I tried my local repairers - with no luck. I > > was about to > > > >give up and cut my losses but then a friend suggested a studio > > > technician > > > >may be my answer, I live in London UK, so there are plenty > > about! This > > > >was > > > >the answer! and both machines were duly serviced (together > > with my two > > > >ReVox > > > >R to R decks!). Service was good, fast and didn't break > > the bank. The > > > >technician said" the Excelias are easy to work on, parts are not a > > > problem > > > >and Excelias tend to be robust and reliable?" > > > > Depending on your location, this may be the way to go for the Aiwa > > > >XK > > > >! 009 Excelia.if you are in the UK I can get you in > > contact with "my > > > man"! > > > >All I can say is that it will be worth it! > > > > In my opinion both of these Aiwa Excelia decks are very underated > > > >machines! They don't appear for sale often in the UK, and > > are usually > > > >studio sales. I recently saw and purchased a second 007 on ebay for > > > >�18.00, > > > >superbly well maintained in great order as well! For > > domestic use the > > > only > > > >problems I can see are the deepness (they are very deep!). > > The mains > > > >transformers are bolted on the rear panel to isolate any > > mains hum?, and > > > >having to earth the chassis can be awkward. Many are converted to > > > balanced > > > >outputs/inputs (one of my 007s and the 009 are) but this > > is easy to get > > > >around. > > > > In my opinion, again, both the 007 and 009 tread on my "Dragons" > > > >tail > > > >and equal the ZX7 when recording and playing back with DBX > > switched in! > > > >and > > > >the 009 can "chase the Dragon! " and jump ahead of the ZX7 > > using Dolby C > > > . > > > >I > > > >had both the 007 and 009 calibrated for TDK SA European > > stock cassettes > > > >that > > > >are easy to get here in the UK ( I buy them by the hundred > > at �50.00 a > > > >shot!). I find that with DBX and these tapes the Excelia's are near > > > >perfect recording and playing good analogue, and thanks to > > DBX "kick > > > ass" > > > >with digital, Alas my Naks cant do that being restricted > > to Dolby B/C! > > > > Please dont get me wrong! My Naks are some of my favourite babies > > > >and > > > >always will be, but I think it is fair to say that part of the Naks > > > appeal > > > >is due to that "little bit" that is added (Somebody told > > me it is called > > > >"that Nak sound"). and after all they are only cassette > > decks! and as > > > >good > > > >as they are, some of my "other babies", ReVox R to Rs, fed > > with a good > > > tape > > > >and analogue source eat the Naks for breakfast! > > > > I do hope you have some success with finding a repairer! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > Maintain your account here: > > > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > Main! tain your account here: > > > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > >Maintain your account here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > > > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > Maintain your account here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! 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The all-new My Yahoo! � Get yours free! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bg3009 at yahoo.com Wed Jan 5 10:00:35 2005 From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 01:00:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050105090035.44069.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> Well thats what I thought, until I changed my Thorens 125 for a VPI TNT IV and 12in arm... Its a totally different sound Alex. Bala Alex Cozac wrote: Dear Bala! $:7,000 for a Turntable..., the Yorke!!! I can live with my vintage Technics SL-120 yet!!! ALEX! >From: Bala Ganesh Chandra >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 12:23:07 -0800 (PST) > >I've yet to see a Simon Yorke here where I live. The local dealer hasnt >brought in any. My VPI while good, is cumbersome at times. My 78 decks >though is a Thorens 124, with a SME 3010 arm.. But the Yorke can do from 16 >to 90 rpm stepless and is the choice turntable for the US Library of >Congress, which has 12 of these! (I think I got the library name right, >but forgive me if I'm wrong). > >Bala > >Nelson wrote: >Richard > >Delicious picture! > >Most interesting that your choice of record deck is, by comparison with >your >recording equipment, a little modest? I was expecting something like a >Technics SP-10, Simon Yorke S7 professional archive turntable >(http://www.recordplayer.com/archive.htm), or an EMT, perhaps. Although I >read somewhere on the Web that there are some "hot" modified SL-1200's with >variable speeds for the "78s'". > >You have me intrigued ... What is the Sony APR-16 and why was only one ever >made? > >Gra' > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > Behalf Of Richard L. Hess > > Sent: 04 January 2005 19:06 > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like > > > > > > Walter, > > > > Glad to meet someone else with 5 Dragons -- I have four here and > > a fifth waiting > > for me in Los Angeles. I, too, have an NOS spare Dragon mechanism. Funny > > coincidence. > > > > I don't have any CR7s, but I have an MR-1 for varispeed and recording. > > > > I also keep a bunch of Sony APR-5003V, Studer A810, and Studer > > A807s running as > > well as the only Sony APR-16 ever made. > > > > For old photos see http://www.richardhess.com/tape/facility.htm > > > > New photos coming...sometime. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Richard > > -- > > > > Richard L. Hess > > http://www.richardhess.com/ > > > > > > Quoting wdrewes at iafrica.com: > > > > > To execute a testamentary bequest from the tip of Africa for > > Graham in the UK > > > is nearly as difficult as maintaining a 1000ZXL anywhere in the > > world! So > > > Alex I think Graham must expect a pass on that one! > > > Of the 4 CR7's I bought in the last 2 years or so THREE had no > > cassette well > > > doors! What people do with the CR7 doors worldwide I have not > > been able to > > > figure out.I only have three left and am still looking for a > > CR7 door for one > > > of them.(CR 5 also fits,but the other CR series do not) So if > > anyone finds > > > one ,they will know were to post them to at a profit! > > > I dont think I will not acquire more Dragons as these are enough to > > > handle!I wont need more as spares,as I have a complete ,brand > > spankin new > > > factory cassette drive with all its whistles from the factory for this > > > purpose! > > > Let nobody feel sad that he has no more of them > > themselves.Imagine having to > > > handle 5 wives--although 5 Dragons may be more complient and easier! > > > Walter > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bala Ganesh Chandra > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:26 AM > > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > This five dragon stack has created some craze here hasnt it? > > When I was > > > much much younger, and the only reel deck was my dad's X1000R (which >was > > > rotting away in pieces), he saw about 15 of these decks in a > > store, working. > > > Unfortuntely, the store was selling electronics. It was buying > > scrap metal. > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > Alex Cozac wrote: > > > Walter!!!! Don't wait till you pass away..SENT one of your collected > > > Dragons > > > to Graham...so HE will live eternity!!!! > > > > > > Good Luck Graham!!!!!! > > > > > > ALEX! > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Nelson" > > > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > > > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:14:01 -0000 > > > > > > > >Indeed! How does one ingratiate oneself into your favour, > > Walter, so > > > that > > > >one might have a Dragon bequeathed in your Will? > > > > > > > >Grinham > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > > >Behalf > > > >Of S�ndor Istv�n > > > > Sent: 03 January 2005 16:51 > > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > >! Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Walter! > > > > "Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce > > the water lying > > > >in > > > >waiting)" > > > > > > > > Are you waiting for your sixth Dragon? Unbelievable... :-))) > > > > How many CR7s do you have? > > > > > > > > I am really envy of you... ;-) > > > > > > > > Happy New Year! > > > > Istv�n > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: wme drewes > > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:07 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering when last your Dragon was professionally > > serviced by > > > >people that have the correct calibration and adjustment > > > >instruments(including tapes)? Do not let anyone loose on a > > Dragon who > > > does > > > >not have these items.I have 5 Dragons and those that have > > been serviced > > > by > > > >competent people(known for their competen! ce in the trade > > )but who dont > > > have > > > >the full complement of equipment dont sound as well as those that > > > Stephen > > > >Sank has serviced! ( The same holds for my CR 7's as well) > > Bear in mind > > > >that > > > >those not serviced by Mr Sank still sound superlative! > > Please dont touch > > > >those "white little wheels"if you dont have the equipment > > for complete > > > >adjustments,you might get an improvement on performance,but in all > > > >propability a vast amount of further improvement will lie > > latent in your > > > >excellent machine! > > > > Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the > > water lying > > > >in > > > >waiting) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Colin Marsh > > > > To: naktalk > > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:43 PM > > > > Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't know about service for the Aiwa F990, but the > > XK009! that's a > > > >different matter. I own both the Aiwa XK007 and 009 EXCEL! > > IA decks - I > > > got > > > >them from a local auction out of curiosity! As the pair > > came at a price > > > of > > > >only �30.00 UK it was no hardship, I later discovered that > > both these > > > >models seem to be professional models and most found there way into > > > studios > > > >as mastering decks. I tried thru Aiwa and Sony to get the machines > > > >serviced > > > >with no luck, I tried my local repairers - with no luck. I > > was about to > > > >give up and cut my losses but then a friend suggested a studio > > > technician > > > >may be my answer, I live in London UK, so there are plenty > > about! This > > > >was > > > >the answer! and both machines were duly serviced (together > > with my two > > > >ReVox > > > >R to R decks!). Service was good, fast and didn't break > > the bank. The > > > >technician said" the Excelias are easy to work on, parts are not a > > > problem > > > >and Excelias tend to be robust and reliable?" > > > > Depending on your location, this may be the way to go for the Aiwa > > > >XK > > > >! 009 Excelia.if you are in the UK I can get you in > > contact with "my > > > man"! > > > >All I can say is that it will be worth it! > > > > In my opinion both of these Aiwa Excelia decks are very underated > > > >machines! They don't appear for sale often in the UK, and > > are usually > > > >studio sales. I recently saw and purchased a second 007 on ebay for > > > >�18.00, > > > >superbly well maintained in great order as well! For > > domestic use the > > > only > > > >problems I can see are the deepness (they are very deep!). > > The mains > > > >transformers are bolted on the rear panel to isolate any > > mains hum?, and > > > >having to earth the chassis can be awkward. Many are converted to > > > balanced > > > >outputs/inputs (one of my 007s and the 009 are) but this > > is easy to get > > > >around. > > > > In my opinion, again, both the 007 and 009 tread on my "Dragons" > > > >tail > > > >and equal the ZX7 when recording and playing back with DBX > > switched in! > > > >and > > > >the 009 can "chase the Dragon! " and jump ahead of the ZX7 > > using Dolby C > > > . > > > >I > > > >had both the 007 and 009 calibrated for TDK SA European > > stock cassettes > > > >that > > > >are easy to get here in the UK ( I buy them by the hundred > > at �50.00 a > > > >shot!). I find that with DBX and these tapes the Excelia's are near > > > >perfect recording and playing good analogue, and thanks to > > DBX "kick > > > ass" > > > >with digital, Alas my Naks cant do that being restricted > > to Dolby B/C! > > > > Please dont get me wrong! My Naks are some of my favourite babies > > > >and > > > >always will be, but I think it is fair to say that part of the Naks > > > appeal > > > >is due to that "little bit" that is added (Somebody told > > me it is called > > > >"that Nak sound"). and after all they are only cassette > > decks! and as > > > >good > > > >as they are, some of my "other babies", ReVox R to Rs, fed > > with a good > > > tape > > > >and analogue source eat the Naks for breakfast! > > > > I do hope you have some success with finding a repairer! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > Maintain your account here: > > > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > Main! tain your account here: > > > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > >Maintain your account here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > ========= > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > > > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > Maintain your account here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! 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URL: From bg3009 at yahoo.com Wed Jan 5 10:10:35 2005 From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 01:10:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] For Kermit In-Reply-To: <41DAE61D.8050605@woods-and-waters.com> Message-ID: <20050105091035.38683.qmail@web41414.mail.yahoo.com> Kermit, Sometime ago, I was told in another forum which specialized in recording techniques using minidiscs, that the stereo mic pair was one of the best way to capture stereo recording. You dont go thru two much mixing and capture the music as is. How would you rate this approach? Also, it seems lots of commerical studios and broadcast companies are using compression to achieve a high sound volume on the media. While compression has been in use to sqeeuze more songs into an lp, the heavier types now in use seem to make music sound terrible. Agree? Bala "Kermit V. Gray" wrote: Hi Gra' Stereo isn't inherently better than mono, though I admit I like the added dimension it brings, if done correctly. The underlying issue is that, in truth, most stereo mixes aren�t as well made as most mono mixes were, especially in the early days of stereo. With a mono mix, you must get the microphone placement and the balances correct or the recording won�t sound too good. With a stereo mix, you can make quite a few errors yet have an acceptable recording. At one time, record labels made TWO mixes of each recording: a mono mix and a stereo mix. The mono mix was considered the important one because it was broadcast, which was where the money was, and hence was done quite well. The stereo mix was regarded as a consumer gimmick, and often as an afterthought. It's no wonder they were so mediocre. This led to a backlash among the recording buying public and a misunderstanding among HiFi buffs that, somehow, mono is/was better than stereo as far as preserving tone and musical balance. See? What's really happening is well-done mono versus poorly-done stereo. Poor technique always sounds worse then good technique, yes? Yes! I�ve found that IF you can find a flawlessly done stereo recording then you�ll have just as good a sense of tone as a good mono one, arguably better because the spatial effect makes the sound more natural and realistic, enhancing the brain's perception of "tone". When I teach recording I force my students to mix in mono at first until they�ve perfected their technique. (Oh how they grumble!) Only then are they allowed to �graduate� to stereo. Makes all the difference -- a good mono mix is much harder to achieve than you would expect. My teaching tools: Nakamichi 550, Bogen CDM mixer (mono only, no EQ on channels and bass/treble on output), three Shure SM59, two ElectroVoice 635A, two ElectroVoice DS-35 and one Sennheiser MD421U microphones. This rig can make some truly excellent recordings! If I have a big class, then one or two students are stuck with my Uher 4400 Report or 1000 Report Pilot and either Uher's mediocre M517 mic or a Shure 545. These rigs can still make quite good recordings, but being limited to only one mic and one track makes some projects challenging. (I would never force anyone to use a Nagra. That's against the Geneva Convention as inhumane treatment.) Reprocessed stereo recordings are horrible; they use reverb and wierd EQ tricks to get a stereo-like effect. Even blended back into mono they still sound awful, with rare exceptions. Nelson wrote: > Hi Kermit > > As an engineer and specialist in recording, do you feel that stereo > recording is the best way to capture the purest sound of the voices or > instruments, and (of course) the use of stereo amplifiers and speakers to > reproduce it? This may seem like a daft question. However, not so long ago > I was in conversation with a maker of some very hi end kit - that is, he > makes �250-�500 stereo decoders for vintage mono tuners, including the > celebrated (in the UK and Australia, at atleast) Leak Troughlines. (Leak, > by the way, had a Leak branded ski slope cassette deck which was made for > them by Nakamichi.) I said to him my priority was in getting the best > reproduction of the tonal quality of the instruments rather than building up > some artificial "sound stage". It's not that I didn't want "stereo" but > stereo sound is less important to me that getting the sound right, so that a > wood instruments sounds like a wood instrument, that a Steinberg sounds like > a Steinberg and not a Yamaha. His response was that I should forget stereo > altogether, that I would never get as good tonal quality to the music from > any tuner that uses a multiplex decoder. I was, "What, even your �500 > model?" He said, "Yes." > > Gra' > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > -- Kermit Gray Woods & Waters/KVG Labs 16371 Lake Point Drive Bonner Springs, KS 66012 USA 816-918-5058 cellphone 913-422-0957 business http://www.woods-and-waters.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page � Try My Yahoo! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doug at whiteapple.u-net.com Wed Jan 5 10:20:51 2005 From: doug at whiteapple.u-net.com (Doug Locke) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 09:20:51 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Correct talk on naktalk In-Reply-To: <8CE7E3A7-5E88-11D9-8164-000D93C246E2@mac.com> Message-ID: Fred, I hope that you are not suggesting that any of the subscribers to this conference are 350lb sweaty pin headed fellows from rural Alabama! Doug. -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Fred Lifton Sent: 04 January 2005 19:41 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Correct talk on naktalk Alright, as a former composition teacher and license holding doctor of english (Ph.D Duke 1995), I can't help but jump in to the OT fray here. English is "correct" when the meaning intended by the speaker is the meaning understood by the listener given the context of the utterance. Here's how I used to put it to my composition students: You are driving through rural Alabama on a hot day. Up ahead you spot a dilapidated roadside tavern with 20 Harleys parked out front. You enter, perceiving in the gloom a large number of hairy, leather-clad bikers. You saunter up to the bar to order from the 350lb bartender, a sweaty pin-headed fellow with straw still adhering to the back of his red, sunburned neck. Which of these phrases is the correct one? 1. "Sir, may I purchase a Budweiser." 2. "Gimme a Bud." Most students would usually pick sentence one as being "correct". Those students are wrong. In that context, that phrase is likelier to get you an ass-kicking than it is get you a beer. The second sentence is "correct"; considered in context it's better English than the first. So, I'd defend Gerald's english on the basis that I knew what he meant, it gives me a sense of who he is and where he's from, and it was appropriate given the context of an informal internet discussion forum. There. Oh,and Nakamichi, Nakamichi, Nakamichi. Fred -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marilorn at abeam.ocn.ne.jp Wed Jan 5 09:51:09 2005 From: marilorn at abeam.ocn.ne.jp (Lorne Spry) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 08:51:09 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Please help me decide between Maxell and TDK..... In-Reply-To: <200412311101.iBVB1ZHb008239@zebra.naks.com> References: <200412311101.iBVB1ZHb008239@zebra.naks.com> Message-ID: Hi Keith I have some Maxell XLII tapes around here that were recorded ages ago. I love this tape, and I wish I could still find a supply of it. Other members may give you a direct comparison. I my case, I will only certify what I absolutely know. XLII/XLII-S is a very durable and dependable tape with admirable sonic qualities. I'd say that my XLII tapes stand in the next rank behind my TDK MA-ex tapes for both toughness and sound. Nothing wrong with the SA either if you have difficulty with the other. Compared to the choices out there on many of the shelves today, anything from the front ranks of the golden age of cassette recording is a good trove find. If it is long-time NOS, one takes the chance as to whether it was stored safely. If the price is right, I WOULD take the chance with XLII-S. Let us know how it works out. - Lorne in Sendai, Japan From bg3009 at yahoo.com Wed Jan 5 10:31:56 2005 From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 01:31:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] For Kermit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050105093156.12059.qmail@web41401.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Alex, I just saw your two photos, and really, I love the cabinet you have on the 78. Was that the SP10 sitting above it? Bala Alex Cozac wrote: Dear Bala! Just I sent to your Yahoo address, two digit photos, that I take it specially for you! Will show my equipment minus the turntable that is cover with a cloth, and part of my ONE JBL speaker. PS..Who want to look my equipment, please Off of Topic send me your mail address! Cheers, ALEX! ALEX! >From: Bala Ganesh Chandra >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Kermit >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 09:12:27 -0800 (PST) > >Wow Alex, you hit the nail real exact. I was talking about that and the 77. >I have a friend who sent me snips of a mail sent to him by the designer >Modafferi who acknowledges the better of them both in sonic terms. Also, >there is elsewhere a detailed study in at which stages the 78 was designed >to sacrifice sound quality for signal strength. And of course, 30 years on, >there are things that can be done to get a better sound, without >sacrificing the DX capability of the '78. I have the 77, 78 and 80 and I >prefer the relax sound of the 77. > >Bala > >Alex Cozac wrote: >Dear Bala! > >Sorry but... I DON'T AGREED! Today I use also from my family a McIntosh >MR-78 with his originally walnut cabinet in our family since >1974...UNTOUCHED SINCE THEN...! and such newer "Digitally" tuner...sorry to >write is simple a "SHIT"...in sound quality!!! > >ALEX! > > > > >From: Bala Ganesh Chandra > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Kermit > >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 00:48:22 -0800 (PST) > > > >Hi Graham, and Kermit, > > > > I am not quite suprised by the encounter. Many times, these > >days, people get mixed with a good sound, and a true sound. My preference > >is for something which I can sit down, and listen for hours at end, and > >sounds natural. Almost, as if, the singer was there. That is true sound. >I > >realize that sometimes, this results in a mellow, and 'warm' sound with a > >slight rolled of treble.. as some describe. Recently, I went thru a >debate > >of two sister tuner models made by the same company. They both employ the > >same audio section, but the IF and filters are totally different. When >new, > >the cheaper one went for USD 700. The more advanced IF version cost a >full > >USD1700! When compared side by side, the costlier version seems to > >outshine, with a clearer sound, better treble and so on. Its so good, you > >can plug out the antannae cable and this baby would still pull stations > >with a good signal strength! (In case you guys out there wonder, this was > >the tuner that ousted the Marantz 10! > > B). The > > cheaper one had to have a good and strong signal. Yet, 30 years after >all > >that, today the designer is helping people upgrade the more expensive >tuner > >to have a similiar sonic signature to the cheaper tuner! Reason? I put >back > >both tuners and when I listen carefully, the cheaper one, with a simpler > >filter and all that was more relaxed, more natural and had the most > >beautiful violins I ever heard on the airwaves. > > > >There are more examples when more money does not mean better sound ( >point > >is what do we define as good sound?). But then again, money put in the > >right places, might yield what I'd call a true sound. In case guys out > >there are interested, I am considering plans to incorporate tubes in my >Nak > >680. > > > >Bala > > > >Nelson wrote: > >Hi Kermit > > > >As an engineer and specialist in recording, do you feel that stereo > >recording is the best way to capture the purest sound of the voices or > >instruments, and (of course) the use of stereo amplifiers and speakers to > >reproduce it? This may seem like a daft question. However, not so long >ago > >I was in conversation with a maker of some very hi end kit - that is, he > >makes �250-�500 stereo decoders for vintage mono tuners, including the > >celebrated (in the UK and Australia, at atleast) Leak Troughlines. (Leak, > >by the way, had a Leak branded ski slope cassette deck which was made for > >them by Nakamichi.) I said to him my priority was in getting the best > >reproduction of the tonal quality of the instruments rather than building > >up > >some artificial "sound stage". It's not that I didn't want "stereo" but > >stereo sound is less important to me that getting the sound right, so >that > >a > >wood instruments sounds like a wood instrument, that a Steinberg sounds > >like > >a Steinberg and not a Yamaha. His response was that I should forget >stereo > >altogether, that I would never get as good tonal quality to the music >from > >any tuner that uses a multiplex decoder. 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Message-ID: You should read the book published by PublicAffairs (NYC) (the exact name escapes me at this time of the morning) concerning the hazards these "monsters" possess, since you own an SUV I doubt you will have an unbiased view, but anyone with intellectual honesty can only reach one conclusion after reading the book. And oh I have been told some of these "monster" vehicles have Nakamichi radios on board..(a neccessary thing to have as your vehicle crushes the vehicle it has just hit...we can't have the sound of crumpling steel intrude on our morning commute!) N >From: "Geoffrey Reynolds" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Subject: Re: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank >cassette? >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 10:41:53 -0500 > >From: "neil lipes" > > > Yes....... sorry fellows, but the amount of testosterone on NYC streets >is > > overwhelming!.....and sorry but, what is with all the females that are 5 > > foot tall behind the wheels of these monsters??? I guess the operative >word > > is a INTIMIDATE! Those vehicles are a menace no two ways about it. > >Some of the drivers of any vehicle (not just SUV's) are the menace, not the >vehicles. Do most of the people who drive SUV's actually "need" them? >Probably not, but the same argument could be made of our Nakamichi tape >decks too - we could get by quite well with a CD recorder, but we enjoy our >Naks. Same thing with vehicles and many other material things. > >But I ask again if this is the Naktalk list or if I've been transferred to >another... >-- >Geoffrey Reynolds >Land Rover Discovery and Nak CR-7A Owner > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From timbarrett at cox.net Wed Jan 5 16:11:38 2005 From: timbarrett at cox.net (Tim Barrett) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 10:11:38 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41DC03AA.4020308@cox.net> Neil - I'm not a New Yorker, but my wife was until I married her and 'made' her move down to VA. During my episodes of driving in Manhattan I noticed a definite pecking order to vehicles and traffic rights on the streets. Dump trucks and vehicles of their ilk were definitely the top of the heap. They did whatever they wanted to do and everyone else seemed to accomodate them. Next were big delivery trucks, the bigger the better, and then there was this whole battle going on between cabs and buses and limos. People in normal cars were at the mercy of all of the above, but even with the normal cars there were levels of peckmanship. Since I didn't live there, but just had to deal with it sporadically, I found it all very amusing. At the time I owned a Jeep Cherokee and a Saturn. Other drivers gave me greater latitude and more deference when I was driving the Jeep, and in the Saturn I just sort of disappeared into the throng and was ignored entirely. The most fun I ever had on the streets of Manhattan was when we moved my wife out. I rented a 24 foot U-Haul truck and drove it from 24th and 2nd Ave out of the city and down to VA, and boy it was refreshing to have everyone get out of my way. People seemed to anticipate what I was about to do and just move out of the way. No honking horns or dirty looks or anything. That may be one of the reasons why someone would want an intimidating vehicle on the streets of NY. But where can they park it? Tim neil lipes wrote: > You should read the book published by PublicAffairs (NYC) (the exact > name escapes me at this time of the morning) concerning the hazards > these "monsters" possess, since you own an SUV I doubt you will have > an unbiased view, but anyone with intellectual honesty can only reach > one conclusion after reading the book. And oh I have been told some of > these "monster" vehicles have Nakamichi radios on board..(a neccessary > thing to have as your vehicle crushes the vehicle it has just hit...we > can't have the sound of crumpling steel intrude on our morning commute!) > > N > >> From: "Geoffrey Reynolds" >> Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >> Subject: Re: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank >> cassette? >> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 10:41:53 -0500 >> >> From: "neil lipes" >> >> > Yes....... sorry fellows, but the amount of testosterone on NYC >> streets is >> > overwhelming!.....and sorry but, what is with all the females that >> are 5 >> > foot tall behind the wheels of these monsters??? I guess the >> operative >> word >> > is a INTIMIDATE! Those vehicles are a menace no two ways about it. >> >> Some of the drivers of any vehicle (not just SUV's) are the menace, >> not the >> vehicles. Do most of the people who drive SUV's actually "need" them? >> Probably not, but the same argument could be made of our Nakamichi tape >> decks too - we could get by quite well with a CD recorder, but we >> enjoy our >> Naks. Same thing with vehicles and many other material things. >> >> But I ask again if this is the Naktalk list or if I've been >> transferred to >> another... >> -- >> Geoffrey Reynolds >> Land Rover Discovery and Nak CR-7A Owner >> >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> >> Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> >> Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's > FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > From alexcozac at hotmail.com Wed Jan 5 17:11:44 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 18:11:44 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Please help me decide between Maxell and TDK..... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Lorne, You can obtain in Nippon AXIA...(Fuji aboard...!), I get here in Israel Fuji Z-2 90 minutes for ONE AMERICAN DOLLAR EACH! It's OK for me with my Nak Dragon Machine NO noise reduction at all! Happy Listening, ALEX! >From: Lorne Spry >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: naktalk at naks.com >CC: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: [naktalk] Please help me decide between Maxell and TDK..... >Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 08:51:09 +0000 > >Hi Keith > >I have some Maxell XLII tapes around here that were recorded ages ago. I >love this tape, and I wish I could still find a supply of it. Other members >may give you a direct comparison. I my case, I will only certify what I >absolutely know. XLII/XLII-S is a very durable and dependable tape with >admirable sonic qualities. I'd say that my XLII tapes stand in the next >rank behind my TDK MA-ex tapes for both toughness and sound. Nothing wrong >with the SA either if you have difficulty with the other. Compared to the >choices out there on many of the shelves today, anything from the front >ranks of the golden age of cassette recording is a good trove find. If it >is long-time NOS, one takes the chance as to whether it was stored safely. >If the price is right, I WOULD take the chance with XLII-S. Let us know how >it works out. >- Lorne in Sendai, Japan >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From alexcozac at hotmail.com Wed Jan 5 17:13:29 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 18:13:29 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] For Kermit In-Reply-To: <20050105093156.12059.qmail@web41401.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Bala! The cabinet is originall walnut from 1974, On the top is my gifted SP-9 Mk-2 unit! Cheers, ALEX! >From: Bala Ganesh Chandra >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Kermit >Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 01:31:56 -0800 (PST) > >Hi Alex, I just saw your two photos, and really, I love the cabinet you >have on the 78. Was that the SP10 sitting above it? > >Bala > >Alex Cozac wrote: >Dear Bala! > >Just I sent to your Yahoo address, two digit photos, that I take it >specially for you! Will show my equipment minus the turntable that is cover >with a cloth, and part of my ONE JBL speaker. > >PS..Who want to look my equipment, please Off of Topic send me your mail >address! > >Cheers, > >ALEX! > > > >ALEX! > > > > > >From: Bala Ganesh Chandra > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Kermit > >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 09:12:27 -0800 (PST) > > > >Wow Alex, you hit the nail real exact. I was talking about that and the >77. > >I have a friend who sent me snips of a mail sent to him by the designer > >Modafferi who acknowledges the better of them both in sonic terms. Also, > >there is elsewhere a detailed study in at which stages the 78 was >designed > >to sacrifice sound quality for signal strength. And of course, 30 years >on, > >there are things that can be done to get a better sound, without > >sacrificing the DX capability of the '78. I have the 77, 78 and 80 and I > >prefer the relax sound of the 77. > > > >Bala > > > >Alex Cozac wrote: > >Dear Bala! > > > >Sorry but... I DON'T AGREED! Today I use also from my family a McIntosh > >MR-78 with his originally walnut cabinet in our family since > >1974...UNTOUCHED SINCE THEN...! and such newer "Digitally" tuner...sorry >to > >write is simple a "SHIT"...in sound quality!!! > > > >ALEX! > > > > > > > > >From: Bala Ganesh Chandra > > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > >To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Kermit > > >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 00:48:22 -0800 (PST) > > > > > >Hi Graham, and Kermit, > > > > > > I am not quite suprised by the encounter. Many times, these > > >days, people get mixed with a good sound, and a true sound. My >preference > > >is for something which I can sit down, and listen for hours at end, and > > >sounds natural. Almost, as if, the singer was there. That is true >sound. > >I > > >realize that sometimes, this results in a mellow, and 'warm' sound with >a > > >slight rolled of treble.. as some describe. Recently, I went thru a > >debate > > >of two sister tuner models made by the same company. They both employ >the > > >same audio section, but the IF and filters are totally different. When > >new, > > >the cheaper one went for USD 700. The more advanced IF version cost a > >full > > >USD1700! When compared side by side, the costlier version seems to > > >outshine, with a clearer sound, better treble and so on. Its so good, >you > > >can plug out the antannae cable and this baby would still pull stations > > >with a good signal strength! (In case you guys out there wonder, this >was > > >the tuner that ousted the Marantz 10! > > > B). The > > > cheaper one had to have a good and strong signal. Yet, 30 years after > >all > > >that, today the designer is helping people upgrade the more expensive > >tuner > > >to have a similiar sonic signature to the cheaper tuner! Reason? I put > >back > > >both tuners and when I listen carefully, the cheaper one, with a >simpler > > >filter and all that was more relaxed, more natural and had the most > > >beautiful violins I ever heard on the airwaves. > > > > > >There are more examples when more money does not mean better sound ( > >point > > >is what do we define as good sound?). But then again, money put in the > > >right places, might yield what I'd call a true sound. In case guys out > > >there are interested, I am considering plans to incorporate tubes in my > >Nak > > >680. > > > > > >Bala > > > > > >Nelson wrote: > > >Hi Kermit > > > > > >As an engineer and specialist in recording, do you feel that stereo > > >recording is the best way to capture the purest sound of the voices or > > >instruments, and (of course) the use of stereo amplifiers and speakers >to > > >reproduce it? This may seem like a daft question. However, not so long > >ago > > >I was in conversation with a maker of some very hi end kit - that is, >he > > >makes �250-�500 stereo decoders for vintage mono tuners, including the > > >celebrated (in the UK and Australia, at atleast) Leak Troughlines. >(Leak, > > >by the way, had a Leak branded ski slope cassette deck which was made >for > > >them by Nakamichi.) I said to him my priority was in getting the best > > >reproduction of the tonal quality of the instruments rather than >building > > >up > > >some artificial "sound stage". It's not that I didn't want "stereo" but > > >stereo sound is less important to me that getting the sound right, so > >that > > >a > > >wood instruments sounds like a wood instrument, that a Steinberg sounds > > >like > > >a Steinberg and not a Yamaha. His response was that I should forget > >stereo > > >altogether, that I would never get as good tonal quality to the music > >from > > >any tuner that uses a multiplex decoder. I was, "What, even your �500 > > >model?" He said, "Yes." > > > > > >Gra' > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > >Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > >Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > >Maintain your account here: >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- > > >Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. 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Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From alexcozac at hotmail.com Wed Jan 5 17:17:37 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 18:17:37 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like Message-ID: Hi Bala! MAYBE....! I don't have such money for a turntable; AND I will had some day...I will spell on other items NOT an a turntable...! I'm extremely satisfied with my 4 turntables that I collect! Cheers, ALEX! >From: Bala Ganesh Chandra >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like >Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 01:00:35 -0800 (PST) > >Well thats what I thought, until I changed my Thorens 125 for a VPI TNT IV >and 12in arm... Its a totally different sound Alex. > >Bala > >Alex Cozac wrote: >Dear Bala! > >$:7,000 for a Turntable..., the Yorke!!! I can live with my vintage >Technics >SL-120 yet!!! > >ALEX! > > > > > >From: Bala Ganesh Chandra > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like > >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 12:23:07 -0800 (PST) > > > >I've yet to see a Simon Yorke here where I live. The local dealer hasnt > >brought in any. My VPI while good, is cumbersome at times. My 78 decks > >though is a Thorens 124, with a SME 3010 arm.. But the Yorke can do from >16 > >to 90 rpm stepless and is the choice turntable for the US Library of > >Congress, which has 12 of these! (I think I got the library name right, > >but forgive me if I'm wrong). > > > >Bala > > > >Nelson wrote: > >Richard > > > >Delicious picture! > > > >Most interesting that your choice of record deck is, by comparison with > >your > >recording equipment, a little modest? I was expecting something like a > >Technics SP-10, Simon Yorke S7 professional archive turntable > >(http://www.recordplayer.com/archive.htm), or an EMT, perhaps. Although I > >read somewhere on the Web that there are some "hot" modified SL-1200's >with > >variable speeds for the "78s'". > > > >You have me intrigued ... What is the Sony APR-16 and why was only one >ever > >made? > > > >Gra' > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > > Behalf Of Richard L. Hess > > > Sent: 04 January 2005 19:06 > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like > > > > > > > > > Walter, > > > > > > Glad to meet someone else with 5 Dragons -- I have four here and > > > a fifth waiting > > > for me in Los Angeles. I, too, have an NOS spare Dragon mechanism. >Funny > > > coincidence. > > > > > > I don't have any CR7s, but I have an MR-1 for varispeed and recording. > > > > > > I also keep a bunch of Sony APR-5003V, Studer A810, and Studer > > > A807s running as > > > well as the only Sony APR-16 ever made. > > > > > > For old photos see http://www.richardhess.com/tape/facility.htm > > > > > > New photos coming...sometime. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Richard > > > -- > > > > > > Richard L. Hess > > > http://www.richardhess.com/ > > > > > > > > > Quoting wdrewes at iafrica.com: > > > > > > > To execute a testamentary bequest from the tip of Africa for > > > Graham in the UK > > > > is nearly as difficult as maintaining a 1000ZXL anywhere in the > > > world! So > > > > Alex I think Graham must expect a pass on that one! > > > > Of the 4 CR7's I bought in the last 2 years or so THREE had no > > > cassette well > > > > doors! What people do with the CR7 doors worldwide I have not > > > been able to > > > > figure out.I only have three left and am still looking for a > > > CR7 door for one > > > > of them.(CR 5 also fits,but the other CR series do not) So if > > > anyone finds > > > > one ,they will know were to post them to at a profit! > > > > I dont think I will not acquire more Dragons as these are enough to > > > > handle!I wont need more as spares,as I have a complete ,brand > > > spankin new > > > > factory cassette drive with all its whistles from the factory for >this > > > > purpose! > > > > Let nobody feel sad that he has no more of them > > > themselves.Imagine having to > > > > handle 5 wives--although 5 Dragons may be more complient and easier! > > > > Walter > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Bala Ganesh Chandra > > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:26 AM > > > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > This five dragon stack has created some craze here hasnt it? > > > When I was > > > > much much younger, and the only reel deck was my dad's X1000R (which > >was > > > > rotting away in pieces), he saw about 15 of these decks in a > > > store, working. > > > > Unfortuntely, the store was selling electronics. It was buying > > > scrap metal. > > > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > Alex Cozac wrote: > > > > Walter!!!! Don't wait till you pass away..SENT one of your collected > > > > Dragons > > > > to Graham...so HE will live eternity!!!! > > > > > > > > Good Luck Graham!!!!!! > > > > > > > > ALEX! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Nelson" > > > > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > > > > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:14:01 -0000 > > > > > > > > > >Indeed! How does one ingratiate oneself into your favour, > > > Walter, so > > > > that > > > > >one might have a Dragon bequeathed in your Will? > > > > > > > > > >Grinham > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > > > >Behalf > > > > >Of S�ndor Istv�n > > > > > Sent: 03 January 2005 16:51 > > > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > > >! Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Walter! > > > > > "Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce > > > the water lying > > > > >in > > > > >waiting)" > > > > > > > > > > Are you waiting for your sixth Dragon? Unbelievable... :-))) > > > > > How many CR7s do you have? > > > > > > > > > > I am really envy of you... ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Happy New Year! > > > > > Istv�n > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: wme drewes > > > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:07 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering when last your Dragon was professionally > > > serviced by > > > > >people that have the correct calibration and adjustment > > > > >instruments(including tapes)? Do not let anyone loose on a > > > Dragon who > > > > does > > > > >not have these items.I have 5 Dragons and those that have > > > been serviced > > > > by > > > > >competent people(known for their competen! ce in the trade > > > )but who dont > > > > have > > > > >the full complement of equipment dont sound as well as those that > > > > Stephen > > > > >Sank has serviced! ( The same holds for my CR 7's as well) > > > Bear in mind > > > > >that > > > > >those not serviced by Mr Sank still sound superlative! > > > Please dont touch > > > > >those "white little wheels"if you dont have the equipment > > > for complete > > > > >adjustments,you might get an improvement on performance,but in all > > > > >propability a vast amount of further improvement will lie > > > latent in your > > > > >excellent machine! > > > > > Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the > > > water lying > > > > >in > > > > >waiting) > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Colin Marsh > > > > > To: naktalk > > > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:43 PM > > > > > Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't know about service for the Aiwa F990, but the > > > XK009! that's a > > > > >different matter. I own both the Aiwa XK007 and 009 EXCEL! > > > IA decks - I > > > > got > > > > >them from a local auction out of curiosity! As the pair > > > came at a price > > > > of > > > > >only �30.00 UK it was no hardship, I later discovered that > > > both these > > > > >models seem to be professional models and most found there way into > > > > studios > > > > >as mastering decks. I tried thru Aiwa and Sony to get the machines > > > > >serviced > > > > >with no luck, I tried my local repairers - with no luck. I > > > was about to > > > > >give up and cut my losses but then a friend suggested a studio > > > > technician > > > > >may be my answer, I live in London UK, so there are plenty > > > about! This > > > > >was > > > > >the answer! and both machines were duly serviced (together > > > with my two > > > > >ReVox > > > > >R to R decks!). Service was good, fast and didn't break > > > the bank. The > > > > >technician said" the Excelias are easy to work on, parts are not a > > > > problem > > > > >and Excelias tend to be robust and reliable?" > > > > > Depending on your location, this may be the way to go for the Aiwa > > > > >XK > > > > >! 009 Excelia.if you are in the UK I can get you in > > > contact with "my > > > > man"! > > > > >All I can say is that it will be worth it! > > > > > In my opinion both of these Aiwa Excelia decks are very underated > > > > >machines! They don't appear for sale often in the UK, and > > > are usually > > > > >studio sales. I recently saw and purchased a second 007 on ebay for > > > > >�18.00, > > > > >superbly well maintained in great order as well! For > > > domestic use the > > > > only > > > > >problems I can see are the deepness (they are very deep!). > > > The mains > > > > >transformers are bolted on the rear panel to isolate any > > > mains hum?, and > > > > >having to earth the chassis can be awkward. Many are converted to > > > > balanced > > > > >outputs/inputs (one of my 007s and the 009 are) but this > > > is easy to get > > > > >around. > > > > > In my opinion, again, both the 007 and 009 tread on my "Dragons" > > > > >tail > > > > >and equal the ZX7 when recording and playing back with DBX > > > switched in! > > > > >and > > > > >the 009 can "chase the Dragon! " and jump ahead of the ZX7 > > > using Dolby C > > > > . > > > > >I > > > > >had both the 007 and 009 calibrated for TDK SA European > > > stock cassettes > > > > >that > > > > >are easy to get here in the UK ( I buy them by the hundred > > > at �50.00 a > > > > >shot!). I find that with DBX and these tapes the Excelia's are near > > > > >perfect recording and playing good analogue, and thanks to > > > DBX "kick > > > > ass" > > > > >with digital, Alas my Naks cant do that being restricted > > > to Dolby B/C! > > > > > Please dont get me wrong! My Naks are some of my favourite babies > > > > >and > > > > >always will be, but I think it is fair to say that part of the Naks > > > > appeal > > > > >is due to that "little bit" that is added (Somebody told > > > me it is called > > > > >"that Nak sound"). and after all they are only cassette > > > decks! and as > > > > >good > > > > >as they are, some of my "other babies", ReVox R to Rs, fed > > > with a good > > > > tape > > > > >and analogue source eat the Naks for breakfast! > > > > > I do hope you have some success with finding a repairer! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > ========= > > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > ========= > > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > > Maintain your account here: > > > > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > ========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ----------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > ========= > > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > ========= > > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > > Main! tain your account here: > > > > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > ========= > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > ========= > > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > ========= > > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > >Maintain your account here: > > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > ========= > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > > > > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > Maintain your account here: > > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Yahoo! 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Get it on your mobile phone. >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------======= _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Wed Jan 5 18:39:02 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 17:39:02 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like In-Reply-To: <20050105090035.44069.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001c4f34d$72d660e0$2ce34c51@oemcomputer> Ha! Ha! Yeah, that's the problem with upgrading, isn't it!!! <> (And the other problem is buying something that you think ought to be better but finding it isn't always the case!! I'm sure we've all been there ...) Gra' -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Bala Ganesh Chandra Sent: 05 January 2005 09:01 To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like Well thats what I thought, until I changed my Thorens 125 for a VPI TNT IV and 12in arm... Its a totally different sound Alex. Bala Alex Cozac wrote: Dear Bala! $:7,000 for a Turntable..., the Yorke!!! I can live with my vintage Technics SL-120 yet!!! ALEX! >From: Bala Ganesh Chandra >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 12:23:07 -0800 (PST) > >I've yet to see a Simon Yorke here where I live. The local dealer hasnt >brought in any. My VPI while good, is cumbersome at times. My 78 decks >though is a Thorens 124, with a SME 3010 arm.. But the Yorke can do from 16 >to 90 rpm stepless and is the choice turntable for the US Library of >Congress, which has 12 of these! (I think I got the library name right, >but forgive me if I'm wrong). > >Bala > >Nelson wrote: >Richard > >Delicious picture! > >Most interesting that your choice of record deck is, by comparison with >your >recording equipment, a little modest? I was expecting something like a >Technics SP-10, Simon Yorke S7 professional archive turntable >(http://www.recordplayer.com/archive.htm), or an EMT, perhaps. Although I >read somewhere on the Web that there are some "hot" modified SL-1200's with >variable speeds for the "78s'". > >You have me intrigued ... What is the Sony APR-16 and why was only one ever >made? > >Gra' > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > Behalf Of Richard L. Hess > > Sent: 04 January 2005 19:06 > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > Su! bject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like > > > > > > Walter, > > > > Glad to meet someone else with 5 Dragons -- I have four here and > > a fifth waiting > > for me in Los Angeles. I, too, have an NOS spare Dragon mechanism. Funny > > coincidence. > > > > I don't have any CR7s, but I have an MR-1 for varispeed and recording. > > > > I also keep a bunch of Sony APR-5003V, Studer A810, and Studer > > A807s running as > > well as the only Sony APR-16 ever made. > > > > For old photos see http://www.richardhess.com/tape/facility.htm > > > > New photos coming...sometime. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Richard > > -- > > > > Richard L. Hess > > http://www.richardhess.com/ > > > > > > Quoting wdrewes at iafrica.com: &g! t; > > > > To execute a testamentary bequest from the tip of Africa for > > Graham in the UK > > > is nearly as difficult as maintaining a 1000ZXL anywhere in the > > world! So > > > Alex I think Graham must expect a pass on that one! > > > Of the 4 CR7's I bought in the last 2 years or so THREE had no > > cassette well > > > doors! What people do with the CR7 doors worldwide I have not > > been able to > > > figure out.I only have three left and am still looking for a > > CR7 door for one > > > of them.(CR 5 also fits,but the other CR series do not) So if > > anyone finds > > > one ,they will know were to post them to at a profit! > > > I dont think I will not acquire more Dragons as these are enough to > > > handle!I wont need more as spares,as I have a complete ,brand > > spankin new >! > > factory cassette drive with all its whistles from the factory for this > > > purpose! > > > Let nobody feel sad that he has no more of them > > themselves.Imagine having to > > > handle 5 wives--although 5 Dragons may be more complient and easier! > > > Walter > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bala Ganesh Chandra > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:26 AM > > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > This five dragon stack has created some craze here hasnt it? > > When I was > > > much much younger, and the only reel deck was my dad's X1000R (which >was > > > rotting away in pieces), he saw about 15 of these decks in a > > store, working. > > > Unfortuntely, the ! store was selling electronics. It was buying > > scrap metal. > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > Alex Cozac wrote: > > > Walter!!!! Don't wait till you pass away..SENT one of your collected > > > Dragons > > > to Graham...so HE will live eternity!!!! > > > > > > Good Luck Graham!!!!!! > > > > > > ALEX! > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Nelson" > > > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > > > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:14:01 -0000 > > > > > > > >Indeed! How does one ingratiate oneself into your favour, > > Walter, so > > > that > > > >one might have a Dragon be! queathed in your Will? > > > > > > > >Grinham > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > > >Behalf > > > >Of Sándor István > > > > Sent: 03 January 2005 16:51 > > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > >! Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Walter! > > > > "Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce > > the water lying > > > >in > > > >waiting)" > > > > > > > > Are you waiting for your sixth Dragon? Unbelievable... :-))) > > > > How many CR7s do you have? > > > > > > > > I am really envy of you... ;-) > > > > > > &! gt; > Happy New Year! > > > > István > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: wme drewes > > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:07 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering when last your Dragon was professionally > > serviced by > > > >people that have the correct calibration and adjustment > > > >instruments(including tapes)? Do not let anyone loose on a > > Dragon who > > > does > > > >not have these items.I have 5 Dragons and those that have > > been serviced > > > by > > > >competent people(known for their competen! ce in the trade > > )but who dont > > > have > > > >the full complement of equipment dont sound as well as those that > > > Stephen > > > >Sank has serviced! ( The same holds for my CR 7's as well) > > Bear in mind > > > >that > > > >those not serviced by Mr Sank still sound superlative! > > Please dont touch > > > >those "white little wheels"if you dont have the equipment > > for complete > > > >adjustments,you might get an improvement on performance,but in all > > > >propability a vast amount of further improvement will lie > > latent in your > > > >excellent machine! > > > > Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the > > water lying > > > >in > > > >waiting) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Colin Marsh > > > > To: naktalk > > > > Sent: ! Monday, January 03, 2005 2:43 PM > > > > Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't know about service for the Aiwa F990, but the > > XK009! that's a > > > >different matter. I own both the Aiwa XK007 and 009 EXCEL! > > IA decks - I > > > got > > > >them from a local auction out of curiosity! As the pair > > came at a price > > > of > > > >only £30.00 UK it was no hardship, I later discovered that > > both these > > > >models seem to be professional models and most found there way into > > > studios > > > >as mastering decks. I tried thru Aiwa and Sony to get the machines > > > >serviced > > > >with no luck, I tried my local repairers - with no luck. I > > was about to > > > >give up an! d cut my losses but then a friend suggested a studio > > > technician > > > >may be my answer, I live in London UK, so there are plenty > > about! This > > > >was > > > >the answer! and both machines were duly serviced (together > > with my two > > > >ReVox > > > >R to R decks!). Service was good, fast and didn't break > > the bank. The > > > >technician said" the Excelias are easy to work on, parts are not a > > > problem > > > >and Excelias tend to be robust and reliable?" > > > > Depending on your location, this may be the way to go for the Aiwa > > > >XK > > > >! 009 Excelia.if you are in the UK I can get you in > > contact with "my > > > man"! > > > >All I can say is that it will be worth it! > > > > In my opinion both of these Ai! wa Excelia decks are very underated > > > >machines! They don't appear for sale often in the UK, and > > are usually > > > >studio sales. I recently saw and purchased a second 007 on ebay for > > > >£18.00, > > > >superbly well maintained in great order as well! For > > domestic use the > > > only > > > >problems I can see are the deepness (they are very deep!). > > The mains > > > >transformers are bolted on the rear panel to isolate any > > mains hum?, and > > > >having to earth the chassis can be awkward. Many are converted to > > > balanced > > > >outputs/inputs (one of my 007s and the 009 are) but this > > is easy to get > > > >around. > > > > In my opinion, again, both the 007 and 009 tread on my "Dragons" > > > >tail > > > >a! nd equal the ZX7 when recording and playing back with DBX > > switched in! > > > >and > > > >the 009 can "chase the Dragon! " and jump ahead of the ZX7 > > using Dolby C > > > . > > > >I > > > >had both the 007 and 009 calibrated for TDK SA European > > stock cassettes > > > >that > > > >are easy to get here in the UK ( I buy them by the hundred > > at £50.00 a > > > >shot!). I find that with DBX and these tapes the Excelia's are near > > > >perfect recording and playing good analogue, and thanks to > > DBX "kick > > > ass" > > > >with digital, Alas my Naks cant do that being restricted > > to Dolby B/C! > > > > Please dont get me wrong! 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URL: From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Wed Jan 5 18:39:16 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 17:39:16 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Correct talk on naktalk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000501c4f34d$7a5f16e0$2ce34c51@oemcomputer> And what if I am?!! <> -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Doug Locke Sent: 05 January 2005 09:21 To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: RE: [naktalk] Correct talk on naktalk Fred, I hope that you are not suggesting that any of the subscribers to this conference are 350lb sweaty pin headed fellows from rural Alabama! Doug. -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Fred Lifton Sent: 04 January 2005 19:41 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Correct talk on naktalk Alright, as a former composition teacher and license holding doctor of english (Ph.D Duke 1995), I can't help but jump in to the OT fray here. English is "correct" when the meaning intended by the speaker is the meaning understood by the listener given the context of the utterance. Here's how I used to put it to my composition students: You are driving through rural Alabama on a hot day. Up ahead you spot a dilapidated roadside tavern with 20 Harleys parked out front. You enter, perceiving in the gloom a large number of hairy, leather-clad bikers. You saunter up to the bar to order from the 350lb bartender, a sweaty pin-headed fellow with straw still adhering to the back of his red, sunburned neck. Which of these phrases is the correct one? 1. "Sir, may I purchase a Budweiser." 2. "Gimme a Bud." Most students would usually pick sentence one as being "correct". Those students are wrong. In that context, that phrase is likelier to get you an ass-kicking than it is get you a beer. The second sentence is "correct"; considered in context it's better English than the first. So, I'd defend Gerald's english on the basis that I knew what he meant, it gives me a sense of who he is and where he's from, and it was appropriate given the context of an informal internet discussion forum. There. Oh,and Nakamichi, Nakamichi, Nakamichi. Fred -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Wed Jan 5 18:39:19 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 17:39:19 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000a01c4f34d$7c012e20$2ce34c51@oemcomputer> Neil That was a deft reverence for keeping on topic - I salute you!! Grinham > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of neil lipes > Sent: 05 January 2005 09:58 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank > cassette? > > > You should read the book published by PublicAffairs (NYC) (the exact name > escapes me at this time of the morning) concerning the hazards these > "monsters" possess, since you own an SUV I doubt you will have an > unbiased > view, but anyone with intellectual honesty can only reach one conclusion > after reading the book. And oh I have been told some of these "monster" > vehicles have Nakamichi radios on board..(a neccessary thing to > have as your > vehicle crushes the vehicle it has just hit...we can't have the sound of > crumpling steel intrude on our morning commute!) > > N > From dgb100 at psulias.psu.edu Wed Jan 5 15:42:32 2005 From: dgb100 at psulias.psu.edu (Derrick Beckner) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 09:42:32 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Correct talk on naktalk In-Reply-To: <8CE7E3A7-5E88-11D9-8164-000D93C246E2@mac.com> References: <200501040803.j0482sHZ029923@zebra.naks.com> <8CE7E3A7-5E88-11D9-8164-000D93C246E2@mac.com> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20050105093547.01a18bc0@psulias.psu.edu> At least you spelled the phrase correctly. How would you have graded Gerald's composition? As long as you never want to graduate from college, write a resume, or keep a job where written communication is employed, I suppose you can get away with bad grammar and spelling. Walking into a bar and ordering a beer is a little different than a two page political rant sent to hundreds of people. Gerald, this is about grammar now, not you. I apologize if it appears I'm bashing you, I really just have a thing about how poorly email communications are constructed in general. Look, I didn't indent my paragraphs! :) My CR-5 likes cat food. nakamichi At 02:40 PM 1/4/2005, you wrote: >Alright, as a former composition teacher and license holding doctor of >english (Ph.D Duke 1995), I can't help but jump in to the OT fray here. >English is "correct" when the meaning intended by the speaker is the >meaning understood by the listener given the context of the utterance. >Here's how I used to put it to my composition students: > >You are driving through rural Alabama on a hot day. Up ahead you spot a >dilapidated roadside tavern with 20 Harleys parked out front. You enter, >perceiving in the gloom a large number of hairy, leather-clad bikers. You >saunter up to the bar to order from the 350lb bartender, a sweaty >pin-headed fellow with straw still adhering to the back of his red, >sunburned neck. Which of these phrases is the correct one? >1. "Sir, may I purchase a Budweiser." >2. "Gimme a Bud." > >Most students would usually pick sentence one as being "correct". Those >students are wrong. In that context, that phrase is likelier to get you an >ass-kicking than it is get you a beer. The second sentence is "correct"; >considered in context it's better English than the first. > >So, I'd defend Gerald's english on the basis that I knew what he meant, it >gives me a sense of who he is and where he's from, and it was appropriate >given the context of an informal internet discussion forum. There. > >Oh,and Nakamichi, Nakamichi, Nakamichi. > >Fred > > > > >On Jan 4, 2005, at 12:03 AM, naktalk-request at naks.com wrote: > >>From: Nelson >>Date: January 3, 2005 5:09:25 PM PST >>To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >>Subject: RE: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a >>blank cassette? >>Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >> >> >>Hmmm .... as an expert in English, I should be offended by American English, >>with its corrupt spelling and divergence from the true language. I mean, >>why do those guys always say "negative" when a simple "no" would suffice? >>And what good reason was there to change the spelling of colour to color or >>tyre to tire?? <> >> >>So, in defence of me good ol' mate Gerald... (not that he needs me to defend >>him.) Atroshius grammor and spelin didnt stop John Clare becoming one of >>the finest poets of the English language. He's way up there with Byron, >>Keats and Wordsworth, with his nature works probably being the finest of ALL >>English speaking poets. Why, if Clare had been born a few years later he'd >>have been an analogue fan and used an all-manual Nakamichi, like a ZX-7 !!! >> >>Besides, in Shakespeare's day, the more ways you could spell a word was >>reckoned to show (or shew) the extent of one's creativity. Indeed, The >>Bard himself spelt his name various different ways. So, which pompous >>(probably academic) git made themselves Emperor of the English language and >>decided on its rules? (Hmmm ... I'll bet their decendants work for Sony, >>Microsoft and the 53 States ... ) And if those rules count for anything, >>why do we tolerate American English at all especially the bastardisation of >>the English language by US exported corruptions of the language such as >>"gay" (which once meant 'disposed of joy and mirth'), "take out" (once >>meaning "to remove", now 'to kill'), "neutralize" (once meant 'to render >>neutral', not 'to kill') and the inclusion of Orwellianisms as "collateral >>damage" (which means "dead or injured civilians") and "blue on blue" (which >>means 'we just killed our own people') ??? >> >>What counts in really good writing are the words that are used and the order >>in which they are placed to convey a message, a feeling, a mood, not how >>they are spelt nor the arbitrary grammatical pointings about which, as John >>Claire observed, grammarians seldom agree anyway. >> >>And, as a student of writing (Masters Degree in Writing Studies) I'd say >>good ol' Gerald is one of the finest writers to visit NakTalk. >> >>He knows a thing or too about Nak's and hi fi, as well !! >> >>Gra' (MA) > >
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> Derrick Beckner Mapping Specialist Map Library Supervisor Penn State University 1 Paterno Library University Park, PA 16802 dgb100 at psulias.psu.edu http://www.libraries.psu.edu/maps/ 814-863-5753 Boston Red Sox, 2004 World Champions Yes, you read that right! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dgb100 at psulias.psu.edu Wed Jan 5 15:44:49 2005 From: dgb100 at psulias.psu.edu (Derrick Beckner) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 09:44:49 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] For Kermit In-Reply-To: <41DAE61D.8050605@woods-and-waters.com> References: <005c01c4f1fb$2b1ca780$a6d6883e@oemcomputer> <41DAE61D.8050605@woods-and-waters.com> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20050105094338.019929a8@psulias.psu.edu> Has anyone used a Carver C-9 or similar product? Always thought the end result of this thing gave the benefits of both mono and stereo. Instruments could be very precisely located. At 01:53 PM 1/4/2005, you wrote: >Hi Gra' > >Stereo isn't inherently better than mono, From dgb100 at psulias.psu.edu Wed Jan 5 15:54:05 2005 From: dgb100 at psulias.psu.edu (Derrick Beckner) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 09:54:05 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Grammar In-Reply-To: <004501c4f307$b6a1e380$fdd94c51@oemcomputer> References: <6.1.2.0.0.20050104093941.01b39380@psulias.psu.edu> <004501c4f307$b6a1e380$fdd94c51@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20050105094532.01984a80@psulias.psu.edu> Sure, I make errors, no doubt. But I do try to minimize them, and I never misspell one word every two I get right. Or use all lower, or totally toss anything resembling a sentence structure out the window. What if your son or daughter brought home a text book full of typos and bad grammar? Would you be cool with that book being used in the school? Would you take it seriously? Your answer is also bogus, and I'm sure you know that. At least as far as race and religion go. A person may have absolutely brilliant ideas or opinions, but if he cannot communicate them properly the brilliance will never fully shine through. This is particularly true when dealing with people remotely or on a one time basis. Good lord, I can't belive people are so opposed to at least attempting to write semi-proper emails! Maybe if the rant was pro-Bush you all would have been more critical? :) nakamichi At 04:19 AM 1/5/2005, you wrote: >"If a person can't take the time to present his ideas clearly and >correctly, why should I believe they took adequate time to form the ideas >to begin with? " > >Answer: For the same reason as you'd not judge a fellow by the colour of >his skin ... or the clothes he chooses to wear, the God he worships, or the >Nakamichi he owns ... > >PS >I noticed some grammatical errors - a missed / misplaced commas and a missed >word in your email! Should one draw any conclusions from that? <> From greynolds at newsguy.com Wed Jan 5 17:06:07 2005 From: greynolds at newsguy.com (Geoffrey Reynolds) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 11:06:07 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? References: Message-ID: <002101c4f340$7a64f630$15eeb3a4@tfcorp.tfn.com> From: "neil lipes" > You should read the book published by PublicAffairs (NYC) (the exact name > escapes me at this time of the morning) concerning the hazards these > "monsters" possess, since you own an SUV I doubt you will have an unbiased > view, but anyone with intellectual honesty can only reach one conclusion > after reading the book. And oh I have been told some of these "monster" > vehicles have Nakamichi radios on board..(a neccessary thing to have as your > vehicle crushes the vehicle it has just hit...we can't have the sound of > crumpling steel intrude on our morning commute!) Oh lord... For the most part, it's the idiot behind the steering wheel that matters, not what they're driving. I also drive a Honda Accord for commuting simply because it gets better gas mileage than my Land Rover does. There are just as many idiots driving Hondas, Toyotas, VW's, BMW's, etc. To conclude that the vehicle itself is responsible for increased hostilities, accidents, etc. is an absurd conclusion. If your assertion is that SUV's cause more damage than a compact car when in accidents, then it's pretty obvious that a 6000lb vehicle is going to cause more damage than a 3000lb vehicle all other things being equal (duh). Of course, I'd much rather be in my Land Rover than my Honda if I get into an accident. Interestingly, my Land Rover has been rear ended a couple of times (once by a compact car, the other by a Jeep Grand Cherokee) - in both cases I was either stopped at a stop sign or traffic light. Both vehicles that rear ended me got towed away and I sustained no damage beyond a bit of paint transfer in either case. There was no personal injury involved in either accident. Clearly, my "monster" SUV must have been at fault simply becuase it's an SUV, but it was pretty convenient for me to be able to drive home without any damage to my vehicle when I wasn't at fault (police showed up in both cases). On the other hand, my Honda got rear ended (I was stopped at a red light) by another compact car and while I was able to drive it, I was inconvenienced by having to take it to a body shop for repairs. I find it amazing how people jump to incredibly misinformed conclusions. Blaming a certain type of vehicle for some of the problems of society is crazy. Blame the specific PEOPLE and how they use the item (whatever it may be), not the material item. There are people out there who litterally blow up SUV's because they think they're evil. To me, that isn't much (if any) different from the idiots who hijacked airplanes and flew them into the World Trade Center towers in NY. -- Geoffrey Reynolds http://landrover.geoff-reynolds.net From dgb100 at psulias.psu.edu Wed Jan 5 17:31:56 2005 From: dgb100 at psulias.psu.edu (Derrick Beckner) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 11:31:56 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Best recording deck In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20050105112748.0196d178@psulias.psu.edu> Seems most people agree the CR7 is the best recording Nak, but are somewhat finicky and early models have some issues. The ZX7/ZX9 look like a lot of fun to play with. Are they reliable? Do they record as well as the CR7? The 680 series seem to be a lot of "purists" favorite decks. The 700/1000 with ABLE seem to be nearly impossible to maintain at this point. Where does the Dragon stand in recording competency? From bg3009 at yahoo.com Wed Jan 5 18:23:17 2005 From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 09:23:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] For Kermit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050105172318.90754.qmail@web41402.mail.yahoo.com> Wow great! Well, My Nak and reel collection is already time consuming.. but turntables are fun to listen to. I used to dabble with them, and modified a few Thorens a few years back Bala Alex Cozac wrote: Hi Bala! The cabinet is originall walnut from 1974, On the top is my gifted SP-9 Mk-2 unit! Cheers, ALEX! >From: Bala Ganesh Chandra >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Kermit >Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 01:31:56 -0800 (PST) > >Hi Alex, I just saw your two photos, and really, I love the cabinet you >have on the 78. Was that the SP10 sitting above it? > >Bala > >Alex Cozac wrote: >Dear Bala! > >Just I sent to your Yahoo address, two digit photos, that I take it >specially for you! Will show my equipment minus the turntable that is cover >with a cloth, and part of my ONE JBL speaker. > >PS..Who want to look my equipment, please Off of Topic send me your mail >address! > >Cheers, > >ALEX! > > > >ALEX! > > > > > >From: Bala Ganesh Chandra > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Kermit > >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 09:12:27 -0800 (PST) > > > >Wow Alex, you hit the nail real exact. I was talking about that and the >77. > >I have a friend who sent me snips of a mail sent to him by the designer > >Modafferi who acknowledges the better of them both in sonic terms. Also, > >there is elsewhere a detailed study in at which stages the 78 was >designed > >to sacrifice sound quality for signal strength. And of course, 30 years >on, > >there are things that can be done to get a better sound, without > >sacrificing the DX capability of the '78. I have the 77, 78 and 80 and I > >prefer the relax sound of the 77. > > > >Bala > > > >Alex Cozac wrote: > >Dear Bala! > > > >Sorry but... I DON'T AGREED! Today I use also from my family a McIntosh > >MR-78 with his originally walnut cabinet in our family since > >1974...UNTOUCHED SINCE THEN...! and such newer "Digitally" tuner...sorry >to > >write is simple a "SHIT"...in sound quality!!! > > > >ALEX! > > > > > > > > >From: Bala Ganesh Chandra > > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > >To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Kermit > > >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 00:48:22 -0800 (PST) > > > > > >Hi Graham, and Kermit, > > > > > > I am not quite suprised by the encounter. Many times, these > > >days, people get mixed with a good sound, and a true sound. My >preference > > >is for something which I can sit down, and listen for hours at end, and > > >sounds natural. Almost, as if, the singer was there. That is true >sound. > >I > > >realize that sometimes, this results in a mellow, and 'warm' sound with >a > > >slight rolled of treble.. as some describe. Recently, I went thru a > >debate > > >of two sister tuner models made by the same company. They both employ >the > > >same audio section, but the IF and filters are totally different. When > >new, > > >the cheaper one went for USD 700. The more advanced IF version cost a > >full > > >USD1700! When compared side by side, the costlier version seems to > > >outshine, with a clearer sound, better treble and so on. Its so good, >you > > >can plug out the antannae cable and this baby would still pull stations > > >with a good signal strength! (In case you guys out there wonder, this >was > > >the tuner that ousted the Marantz 10! > > > B). The > > > cheaper one had to have a good and strong signal. Yet, 30 years after > >all > > >that, today the designer is helping people upgrade the more expensive > >tuner > > >to have a similiar sonic signature to the cheaper tuner! Reason? I put > >back > > >both tuners and when I listen carefully, the cheaper one, with a >simpler > > >filter and all that was more relaxed, more natural and had the most > > >beautiful violins I ever heard on the airwaves. > > > > > >There are more examples when more money does not mean better sound ( > >point > > >is what do we define as good sound?). But then again, money put in the > > >right places, might yield what I'd call a true sound. In case guys out > > >there are interested, I am considering plans to incorporate tubes in my > >Nak > > >680. > > > > > >Bala > > > > > >Nelson wrote: > > >Hi Kermit > > > > > >As an engineer and specialist in recording, do you feel that stereo > > >recording is the best way to capture the purest sound of the voices or > > >instruments, and (of course) the use of stereo amplifiers and speakers >to > > >reproduce it? This may seem like a daft question. However, not so long > >ago > > >I was in conversation with a maker of some very hi end kit - that is, >he > > >makes �250-�500 stereo decoders for vintage mono tuners, including the > > >celebrated (in the UK and Australia, at atleast) Leak Troughlines. >(Leak, > > >by the way, had a Leak branded ski slope cassette deck which was made >for > > >them by Nakamichi.) I said to him my priority was in getting the best > > >reproduction of the tonal quality of the instruments rather than >building > > >up > > >some artificial "sound stage". It's not that I didn't want "stereo" but > > >stereo sound is less important to me that getting the sound right, so > >that > > >a > > >wood instruments sounds like a wood instrument, that a Steinberg sounds > > >like > > >a Steinberg and not a Yamaha. His response was that I should forget > >stereo > > >altogether, that I would never get as good tonal quality to the music > >from > > >any tuner that uses a multiplex decoder. I was, "What, even your �500 > > >model?" 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Hess) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 14:08:03 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like In-Reply-To: <20050105085332.89116.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050105085332.89116.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1104952083.41dc3b13d1f75@www.richardhess.com> Bala, a CD is recorded at 44,100 samples per second with 16 bits per channel per sample. I am recording 24 bits per sample per channel at 88,200 samples per second: double the sample rate and 50% more bits. 88.2/24 is the usual shorthand for identifying this. A CD is 44.1/16 Cheers, Richard -- Richard L. Hess http://www.richardhess.com/ Quoting Bala Ganesh Chandra : > I guess while the W33s give a great sound, recording to pcs give a more > accurate sound. But whats 88.2/24? > > Bala > "Richard L. Hess" wrote: > Gra' > > My turntable is for my own enjoyment. I don't advertise that I transfer > vinyl--and generally refer that to other people. > > I transfer tapes as my business. > > The APR-16 is a one-inch, 16-track version of the 24-track 2-inch APR-24. > > I also have 1/2-inch 4-track, 1/2-inch 8-track, and 1-inch 8-track heads for > it. > It has many parts in common with the APR-24 and the APR-5003V. > > They made the prototype to compete with 1-inch 16 track machines from Otari, > etc., just as ADATs were coming out. Hence, no one was interested. I'm not > sure > how it avoided the crusher, but I now have it. > > Most stuff today is recorded to the PC not the CDR-W33s and I'm doing a lot > of > stuff at 88.2/24. > > Cheers, > > Richard > -- > > Richard L. Hess > http://www.richardhess.com/ > > > Quoting Nelson : > > > Richard > > > > Delicious picture! > > > > Most interesting that your choice of record deck is, by comparison with > your > > recording equipment, a little modest? I was expecting something like a > > Technics SP-10, Simon Yorke S7 professional archive turntable > > (http://www.recordplayer.com/archive.htm), or an EMT, perhaps. Although I > > read somewhere on the Web that there are some "hot" modified SL-1200's with > > variable speeds for the "78s'". > > > > You have me intrigued ... What is the Sony APR-16 and why was only one ever > > made? > > > > Gra' > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > > Behalf Of Richard L. Hess > > > Sent: 04 January 2005 19:06 > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like > > > > > > > > > Walter, > > > > > > Glad to meet someone else with 5 Dragons -- I have four here and > > > a fifth waiting > > > for me in Los Angeles. I, too, have an NOS spare Dragon mechanism. Funny > > > coincidence. > > > > > > I don't have any CR7s, but I have an MR-1 for varispeed and recording. > > > > > > I also keep a bunch of Sony APR-5003V, Studer A810, and Studer > > > A807s running as > > > well as the only Sony APR-16 ever made. > > > > > > For old photos see http://www.richardhess.com/tape/facility.htm > > > > > > New photos coming...sometime. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Richard > > > -- > > > > > > Richard L. Hess > > > http://www.richardhess.com/ > > > > > > > > > Quoting wdrewes at iafrica.com: > > > > > > > To execute a testamentary bequest from the tip of Africa for > > > Graham in the UK > > > > is nearly as difficult as maintaining a 1000ZXL anywhere in the > > > world! So > > > > Alex I think Graham must expect a pass on that one! > > > > Of the 4 CR7's I bought in the last 2 years or so THREE had no > > > cassette well > > > > doors! What people do with the CR7 doors worldwide I have not > > > been able to > > > > figure out.I only have three left and am still looking for a > > > CR7 door for one > > > > of them.(CR 5 also fits,but the other CR series do not) So if > > > anyone finds > > > > one ,they will know were to post them to at a profit! > > > > I dont think I will not acquire more Dragons as these are enough to > > > > handle!I wont need more as spares,as I have a complete ,brand > > > spankin new > > > > factory cassette drive with all its whistles from the factory for this > > > > purpose! > > > > Let nobody feel sad that he has no more of them > > > themselves.Imagine having to > > > > handle 5 wives--although 5 Dragons may be more complient and easier! > > > > Walter > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Bala Ganesh Chandra > > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:26 AM > > > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > This five dragon stack has created some craze here hasnt it? > > > When I was > > > > much much younger, and the only reel deck was my dad's X1000R (which > was > > > > rotting away in pieces), he saw about 15 of these decks in a > > > store, working. > > > > Unfortuntely, the store was selling electronics. It was buying > > > scrap metal. > > > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > Alex Cozac wrote: > > > > Walter!!!! Don't wait till you pass away..SENT one of your collected > > > > Dragons > > > > to Graham...so HE will live eternity!!!! > > > > > > > > Good Luck Graham!!!!!! > > > > > > > > ALEX! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Nelson" > > > > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > > > > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:14:01 -0000 > > > > > > > > > >Indeed! How does one ingratiate oneself into your favour, > > > Walter, so > > > > that > > > > >one might have a Dragon bequeathed in your Will? > > > > > > > > > >Grinham > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > > > >Behalf > > > > >Of Sándor István > > > > > Sent: 03 January 2005 16:51 > > > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > > >! Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Walter! > > > > > "Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce > > > the water lying > > > > >in > > > > >waiting)" > > > > > > > > > > Are you waiting for your sixth Dragon? Unbelievable... :-))) > > > > > How many CR7s do you have? > > > > > > > > > > I am really envy of you... ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Happy New Year! > > > > > István > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: wme drewes > > > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:07 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering when last your Dragon was professionally > > > serviced by > > > > >people that have the correct calibration and adjustment > > > > >instruments(including tapes)? Do not let anyone loose on a > > > Dragon who > > > > does > > > > >not have these items.I have 5 Dragons and those that have > > > been serviced > > > > by > > > > >competent people(known for their competen! ce in the trade > > > )but who dont > > > > have > > > > >the full complement of equipment dont sound as well as those that > > > > Stephen > > > > >Sank has serviced! ( The same holds for my CR 7's as well) > > > Bear in mind > > > > >that > > > > >those not serviced by Mr Sank still sound superlative! > > > Please dont touch > > > > >those "white little wheels"if you dont have the equipment > > > for complete > > > > >adjustments,you might get an improvement on performance,but in all > > > > >propability a vast amount of further improvement will lie > > > latent in your > > > > >excellent machine! > > > > > Walter ( the African crocodile whose eyes just pierce the > > > water lying > > > > >in > > > > >waiting) > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Colin Marsh > > > > > To: naktalk > > > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:43 PM > > > > > Subject: [naktalk] Aiwa F990 and XK009 decks to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't know about service for the Aiwa F990, but the > > > XK009! that's a > > > > >different matter. I own both the Aiwa XK007 and 009 EXCEL! > > > IA decks - I > > > > got > > > > >them from a local auction out of curiosity! As the pair > > > came at a price > > > > of > > > > >only £30.00 UK it was no hardship, I later discovered that > > > both these > > > > >models seem to be professional models and most found there way into > > > > studios > > > > >as mastering decks. I tried thru Aiwa and Sony to get the machines > > > > >serviced > > > > >with no luck, I tried my local repairers - with no luck. I > > > was about to > > > > >give up and cut my losses but then a friend suggested a studio > > > > technician > > > > >may be my answer, I live in London UK, so there are plenty > > > about! This > > > > >was > > > > >the answer! and both machines were duly serviced (together > > > with my two > > > > >ReVox > > > > >R to R decks!). Service was good, fast and didn't break > > > the bank. The > > > > >technician said" the Excelias are easy to work on, parts are not a > > > > problem > > > > >and Excelias tend to be robust and reliable?" > > > > > Depending on your location, this may be the way to go for the Aiwa > > > > >XK > > > > >! 009 Excelia.if you are in the UK I can get you in > > > contact with "my > > > > man"! > > > > >All I can say is that it will be worth it! > > > > > In my opinion both of these Aiwa Excelia decks are very underated > > > > >machines! They don't appear for sale often in the UK, and > > > are usually > > > > >studio sales. I recently saw and purchased a second 007 on ebay for > > > > >£18.00, > > > > >superbly well maintained in great order as well! For > > > domestic use the > > > > only > > > > >problems I can see are the deepness (they are very deep!). > > > The mains > > > > >transformers are bolted on the rear panel to isolate any > > > mains hum?, and > > > > >having to earth the chassis can be awkward. Many are converted to > > > > balanced > > > > >outputs/inputs (one of my 007s and the 009 are) but this > > > is easy to get > > > > >around. > > > > > In my opinion, again, both the 007 and 009 tread on my "Dragons" > > > > >tail > > > > >and equal the ZX7 when recording and playing back with DBX > > > switched in! > > > > >and > > > > >the 009 can "chase the Dragon! " and jump ahead of the ZX7 > > > using Dolby C > > > > . > > > > >I > > > > >had both the 007 and 009 calibrated for TDK SA European > > > stock cassettes > > > > >that > > > > >are easy to get here in the UK ( I buy them by the hundred > > > at £50.00 a > > > > >shot!). I find that with DBX and these tapes the Excelia's are near > > > > >perfect recording and playing good analogue, and thanks to > > > DBX "kick > > > > ass" > > > > >with digital, Alas my Naks cant do that being restricted > > > to Dolby B/C! > > > > > Please dont get me wrong! My Naks are some of my favourite babies > > > > >and > > > > >always will be, but I think it is fair to say that part of the Naks > > > > appeal > > > > >is due to that "little bit" that is added (Somebody told > > > me it is called > > > > >"that Nak sound"). and after all they are only cassette > > > decks! and as > > > > >good > > > > >as they are, some of my "other babies", ReVox R to Rs, fed > > > with a good > > > > tape > > > > >and analogue source eat the Naks for breakfast! > > > > > I do hope you have some success with finding a repairer! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > ========= > > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > ========= > > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > > Maintain your account here: > > > > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > ========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ----------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > ========= > > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > ========= > > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > > Main! tain your account here: > > > > >http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > ========= > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > ========= > > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > ========= > > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > >Maintain your account here: > > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > > >========--------------------------------------------------------- > > > ========= > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > > > > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > > > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > > > Maintain your account here: > > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Yahoo! 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From kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com Wed Jan 5 20:39:56 2005 From: kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com (kannan srinivasaraghavan) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 11:39:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] Best recording deck In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20050105112748.0196d178@psulias.psu.edu> Message-ID: <20050105193956.51510.qmail@web52401.mail.yahoo.com> Having worked on used Nak decks including 582/581/670ZX/ZX 9 ZX 7/ 700ZXE / Dragon and CR 4/CR3 CR5 and CR7- my opinion is that ZX 7/9 are Excellent machines (as good as Dragon / CR 7 in record /replay performance). Infact they are easier tomaintain than Dragon or CR 7 ( 680 /682 are more complicated than ZX 9). Well aligned ZX 7 record / replay performance can compete nicely with CR 7 / Dragon performance Playback on all these machines sound little different from one another ( very small shades of difference ) but Record replay performance of newer or littleused machines are always better than used up machines- So a CR 7 can sound worse than 670ZX. So I would expect a dissatisfied Dragon or CR 7 user if the machine is not correctly aligned or long term use with degraded componenets. Replacing some very important components and aligning such a deck makes a lot of difference. Any 3 Head Nak with Azimuth adjustment and Bias Levelcalibrating type are of same class- only its condition will make the difference. Surprisingly Robert kent' 670 ZX is the best play back machine that I have heard so far! next to Brand new Dragon. While CR 7 is the best recording machine - mostly due to transparent Record input amp. Anyday I would recommend CR 7 for record and Dragon for playback provided these machines are in top condition. Next best machines are ZX 7 /9 kannan Derrick Beckner wrote: Seems most people agree the CR7 is the best recording Nak, but are somewhat finicky and early models have some issues. The ZX7/ZX9 look like a lot of fun to play with. Are they reliable? Do they record as well as the CR7? 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URL: From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Wed Jan 5 20:45:55 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:45:55 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? In-Reply-To: <002101c4f340$7a64f630$15eeb3a4@tfcorp.tfn.com> Message-ID: <002f01c4f35f$2ba828e0$2ce34c51@oemcomputer> Interesting view. I think the objection to SUV's, and may other 4-wheel drive monsters (Shogan, et al), is that they are grossly wasteful of gasoline, a resource that is becoming more precious by the day and without which Western society as we know it would cease. Thus, the criticism is of people who drive these vehicles without any mitigation (i.e. they don't need such a specialist vehicle) and waste gallons of fuel for a 2 mile trip to the shopping mall. The other is that if a SUV (or any big four-wheel drive monster) and especially one with bullbars, should hit a pedestrian, the pedestrian is many times more likely to die than if he were hit by a simple saloon car driving at the same speed. And since most pedestrians hit by vehicles tend to be children, we might reduce child (and adult) FATACs on the roads making these off-road vehicles drive only off the road. Thus, it ought to be compulsory to fit all SUVs and their like with Nakamichi cassette machines with an inbuilt tape recording of Rubenstein playing Chopin's "The Funeral March" !!! (Phew! Still on topic!!) Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of Geoffrey Reynolds > Sent: 05 January 2005 16:06 > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: Re: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank > cassette? > > > From: "neil lipes" > > > You should read the book published by PublicAffairs (NYC) (the > exact name > > escapes me at this time of the morning) concerning the hazards these > > "monsters" possess, since you own an SUV I doubt you will have > an unbiased > > view, but anyone with intellectual honesty can only reach one conclusion > > after reading the book. And oh I have been told some of these "monster" > > vehicles have Nakamichi radios on board..(a neccessary thing to have as > your > > vehicle crushes the vehicle it has just hit...we can't have the sound of > > crumpling steel intrude on our morning commute!) > > Oh lord... For the most part, it's the idiot behind the steering > wheel that > matters, not what they're driving. I also drive a Honda Accord for > commuting simply because it gets better gas mileage than my Land > Rover does. > There are just as many idiots driving Hondas, Toyotas, VW's, > BMW's, etc. To > conclude that the vehicle itself is responsible for increased hostilities, > accidents, etc. is an absurd conclusion. If your assertion is that SUV's > cause more damage than a compact car when in accidents, then it's pretty > obvious that a 6000lb vehicle is going to cause more damage than a 3000lb > vehicle all other things being equal (duh). Of course, I'd much rather be > in my Land Rover than my Honda if I get into an accident. > > Interestingly, my Land Rover has been rear ended a couple of > times (once by > a compact car, the other by a Jeep Grand Cherokee) - in both cases I was > either stopped at a stop sign or traffic light. Both vehicles that rear > ended me got towed away and I sustained no damage beyond a bit of paint > transfer in either case. There was no personal injury involved in either > accident. Clearly, my "monster" SUV must have been at fault > simply becuase > it's an SUV, but it was pretty convenient for me to be able to drive home > without any damage to my vehicle when I wasn't at fault (police > showed up in > both cases). On the other hand, my Honda got rear ended (I was > stopped at a > red light) by another compact car and while I was able to drive it, I was > inconvenienced by having to take it to a body shop for repairs. > > I find it amazing how people jump to incredibly misinformed conclusions. > Blaming a certain type of vehicle for some of the problems of society is > crazy. Blame the specific PEOPLE and how they use the item > (whatever it may > be), not the material item. > > There are people out there who litterally blow up SUV's because they think > they're evil. To me, that isn't much (if any) different from the > idiots who > hijacked airplanes and flew them into the World Trade Center towers in NY. > -- > Geoffrey Reynolds > http://landrover.geoff-reynolds.net > From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Wed Jan 5 20:45:57 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:45:57 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Best recording deck In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20050105112748.0196d178@psulias.psu.edu> Message-ID: <003001c4f35f$2d196c20$2ce34c51@oemcomputer> I've had both a ZX-9 and a factory spec CR-7A at the same time. My ZX-9 is modified. I preferred the ZX-9 for recording and playback. I feel the sound I get from mine is much closer to the original recording that I got from the CR-7. But that's just me. I would think the ZX-7 or 9 would have the edge on the CR-7 for reliability as the former is totally manual. Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of Derrick Beckner > Sent: 05 January 2005 16:32 > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: [naktalk] Best recording deck > > > > > Seems most people agree the CR7 is the best recording Nak, but > are somewhat > finicky and early models have some issues. > The ZX7/ZX9 look like a lot of fun to play with. Are they reliable? Do > they record as well as the CR7? > The 680 series seem to be a lot of "purists" favorite decks. > The 700/1000 with ABLE seem to be nearly impossible to maintain > at this point. > Where does the Dragon stand in recording competency? > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Wed Jan 5 20:45:59 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:45:59 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like In-Reply-To: <1104952083.41dc3b13d1f75@www.richardhess.com> Message-ID: <003101c4f35f$2e25fa20$2ce34c51@oemcomputer> Yum yum! I'd love to hear that through a nice amp and speakers ... > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of Richard L. Hess > Sent: 05 January 2005 19:08 > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like > > > Bala, a CD is recorded at 44,100 samples per second with 16 bits > per channel per > sample. I am recording 24 bits per sample per channel at 88,200 > samples per > second: double the sample rate and 50% more bits. 88.2/24 is the usual > shorthand for identifying this. A CD is 44.1/16 > > Cheers, > > Richard > -- > > Richard L. Hess > http://www.richardhess.com/ > > From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Wed Jan 5 20:51:52 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:51:52 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Grammar In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20050105094532.01984a80@psulias.psu.edu> Message-ID: <003701c4f360$004a5d20$2ce34c51@oemcomputer> Methinks thou protest too much! LOL! What I meant was that it may be imprudent to assume someone has not take time to form a view point simply because YOU may think they have communicated the idea badly. One of the saddest things I think I've witnessed in email exchanges is when people communicate and completely misunderstand each other in terms of their position, strength of feeling and even their point of view. I've seen warfare break out between folk who actually shared the same views but couldn't see it. Why? Because they were not used to each other's style of writing and use of language. Be cool, Derrick - I'm only playing with you! <> Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of Derrick Beckner > Sent: 05 January 2005 14:54 > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: [naktalk] Grammar > > > Sure, I make errors, no doubt. But I do try to minimize them, > and I never > misspell one word every two I get right. Or use all lower, or > totally toss > anything resembling a sentence structure out the window. What if > your son > or daughter brought home a text book full of typos and bad > grammar? Would > you be cool with that book being used in the school? Would you take it > seriously? > > Your answer is also bogus, and I'm sure you know that. At least > as far as > race and religion go. A person may have absolutely brilliant ideas or > opinions, but if he cannot communicate them properly the brilliance will > never fully shine through. This is particularly true when dealing with > people remotely or on a one time basis. > > Good lord, I can't belive people are so opposed to at least attempting to > write semi-proper emails! > Maybe if the rant was pro-Bush you all would have been more critical? :) > > nakamichi > > At 04:19 AM 1/5/2005, you wrote: > >"If a person can't take the time to present his ideas clearly and > >correctly, why should I believe they took adequate time to form the ideas > >to begin with? " > > > >Answer: For the same reason as you'd not judge a fellow by the colour of > >his skin ... or the clothes he chooses to wear, the God he > worships, or the > >Nakamichi he owns ... > > > >PS > >I noticed some grammatical errors - a missed / misplaced commas > and a missed > >word in your email! Should one draw any conclusions from that? <> > > From graker at woods-and-waters.com Wed Jan 5 20:08:35 2005 From: graker at woods-and-waters.com (Kermit V. Gray) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 14:08:35 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] For Kermit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41DC3B33.5010209@woods-and-waters.com> Hey Alex, Alex Cozac wrote: > Dear Graham! > > You said, "I would never force anyone to use a Nagra. That's against the > Geneva Convention as inhumane treatment" Yeah, I heard they'd been doing > that to some of the captured Taliban and blaming it on the FBI! As a reformed Nagra III owner, I really despise the sound of these decks. > I Think...that is to expensive for the most of us!!! Uher's are > much...much cheaper; and do the same for mostly of us!! For a different reason: Uher seems to have thought about how to make their decks the least convenient, most hassle-prone, biggest frustration to work. Useless meters, nonstandard connector wiring, truly wretched monitoring, and worst of all -- you have to partially disassemble the deck by removing two itty-bitty ultra-fine thread screws BEFORE you can CLEAN the heads! AUGH! -- Kermit Gray Woods & Waters/KVG Labs 16371 Lake Point Drive Bonner Springs, KS 66012 USA 816-918-5058 cellphone 913-422-0957 business http://www.woods-and-waters.com From graker at woods-and-waters.com Wed Jan 5 20:11:12 2005 From: graker at woods-and-waters.com (Kermit V. Gray) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 14:11:12 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] For Kermit In-Reply-To: <004f01c4f30c$477abe00$fdd94c51@oemcomputer> References: <004f01c4f30c$477abe00$fdd94c51@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <41DC3BD0.3090200@woods-and-waters.com> Hey Gra' The FM Multiplex (Stereo) decode circuit is a basically an M/S circuit: CENTER is th emono signal, S (difference) is the left/right info. The S signal often has more noise and higher distortion than the M signal. This is a major reason why Mono FM often sounds better than Stereo FM. Nelson wrote: > That's most interesting, Kermit. I take your point about recording in > stereo and taking that signal through the line back to reproduction. I > suppose (at least it seems in my greenhorn way!) that the matter is a little > different with FM radio, where additional circuit is required to demodulate > the signal and reproduce the stereo. Thence, perhaps something of the tonal > quality captured and transmitted will inevitably be lost at that stage. I > have certainly noticed that my tuners offer better mid range (e.g. voices) > when the stereo circuit is switched out for mono output. So, when I am > recording off air (usually onto my Nak ZX-9) sometimes I use the mono > signal - e.g. for orchestral pieces or piano solo, where (it seems to me) > the stereo image adds little to my enjoyment, or at least not as much as > hearing the difference between a violin and a viola when the orchestra is in > full flow (which seem more apparent with the mono output.) > > You said, "I would never force anyone to use a Nagra. That's against the > Geneva Convention as inhumane treatment" Yeah, I heard they'd been doing > that to some of the captured Taliban and blaming it on the FBI! > > Gra' > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On >>Behalf Of Kermit V. Gray >>Sent: 04 January 2005 18:53 >>To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >>Subject: Re: [naktalk] For Kermit >> >> >>Hi Gra' >> >>Stereo isn't inherently better than mono, though I admit I like the >>added dimension it brings, if done correctly. The underlying issue is >>that, in truth, most stereo mixes aren’t as well made as most mono mixes >>were, especially in the early days of stereo. With a mono mix, you must >>get the microphone placement and the balances correct or the recording >>won’t sound too good. With a stereo mix, you can make quite a few errors >>yet have an acceptable recording. At one time, record labels made TWO >>mixes of each recording: a mono mix and a stereo mix. The mono mix was >>considered the important one because it was broadcast, which was where >>the money was, and hence was done quite well. The stereo mix was >>regarded as a consumer gimmick, and often as an afterthought. It's no >>wonder they were so mediocre. This led to a backlash among the recording >>buying public and a misunderstanding among HiFi buffs that, somehow, >>mono is/was better than stereo as far as preserving tone and musical >>balance. See? What's really happening is well-done mono versus >>poorly-done stereo. Poor technique always sounds worse then good >>technique, yes? Yes! >> >>I’ve found that IF you can find a flawlessly done stereo recording then >>you’ll have just as good a sense of tone as a good mono one, arguably >>better because the spatial effect makes the sound more natural and >>realistic, enhancing the brain's perception of "tone". >> >>When I teach recording I force my students to mix in mono at first until >>they’ve perfected their technique. (Oh how they grumble!) Only then are >>they allowed to “graduate” to stereo. Makes all the difference -- a good >>mono mix is much harder to achieve than you would expect. >> >>My teaching tools: Nakamichi 550, Bogen CDM mixer (mono only, no EQ on >>channels and bass/treble on output), three Shure SM59, two ElectroVoice >>635A, two ElectroVoice DS-35 and one Sennheiser MD421U microphones. This >>rig can make some truly excellent recordings! If I have a big class, >>then one or two students are stuck with my Uher 4400 Report or 1000 >>Report Pilot and either Uher's mediocre M517 mic or a Shure 545. These >>rigs can still make quite good recordings, but being limited to only one >>mic and one track makes some projects challenging. (I would never force >>anyone to use a Nagra. That's against the Geneva Convention as inhumane >>treatment.) >> >>Reprocessed stereo recordings are horrible; they use reverb and wierd EQ >>tricks to get a stereo-like effect. Even blended back into mono they >>still sound awful, with rare exceptions. >> >> >>Nelson wrote: >> >>>Hi Kermit >>> >>>As an engineer and specialist in recording, do you feel that stereo >>>recording is the best way to capture the purest sound of the voices or >>>instruments, and (of course) the use of stereo amplifiers and >> >>speakers to >> >>>reproduce it? This may seem like a daft question. However, >> >>not so long ago >> >>>I was in conversation with a maker of some very hi end kit - >> >>that is, he >> >>>makes £250-£500 stereo decoders for vintage mono tuners, including the >>>celebrated (in the UK and Australia, at atleast) Leak >> >>Troughlines. (Leak, >> >>>by the way, had a Leak branded ski slope cassette deck which >> >>was made for >> >>>them by Nakamichi.) I said to him my priority was in getting the best >>>reproduction of the tonal quality of the instruments rather >> >>than building up >> >>>some artificial "sound stage". It's not that I didn't want >> >>"stereo" but >> >>>stereo sound is less important to me that getting the sound >> >>right, so that a >> >>>wood instruments sounds like a wood instrument, that a >> >>Steinberg sounds like >> >>>a Steinberg and not a Yamaha. His response was that I should >> >>forget stereo >> >>>altogether, that I would never get as good tonal quality to the >> >>music from >> >>>any tuner that uses a multiplex decoder. I was, "What, even your £500 >>>model?" He said, "Yes." >>> >>>Gra' >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> >>> Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >>> >> >>========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> >>> Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >>>Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >>> >> >>========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> >>> >>-- >>Kermit Gray >>Woods & Waters/KVG Labs >>16371 Lake Point Drive >>Bonner Springs, KS 66012 >>USA >>816-918-5058 cellphone >>913-422-0957 business >>http://www.woods-and-waters.com >> >> >>========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >>========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >>Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >>========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > -- Kermit Gray Woods & Waters/KVG Labs 16371 Lake Point Drive Bonner Springs, KS 66012 USA 816-918-5058 cellphone 913-422-0957 business http://www.woods-and-waters.com From doug at whiteapple.u-net.com Wed Jan 5 21:11:26 2005 From: doug at whiteapple.u-net.com (Doug Locke) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 20:11:26 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Correct talk on naktalk In-Reply-To: <000501c4f34d$7a5f16e0$2ce34c51@oemcomputer> Message-ID: They may just come round and crush your Nakamichi one dark night <> Doug. -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Nelson Sent: 05 January 2005 17:39 To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: RE: [naktalk] Correct talk on naktalk And what if I am?!! <> -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Doug Locke Sent: 05 January 2005 09:21 To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: RE: [naktalk] Correct talk on naktalk Fred, I hope that you are not suggesting that any of the subscribers to this conference are 350lb sweaty pin headed fellows from rural Alabama! Doug. -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Fred Lifton Sent: 04 January 2005 19:41 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Correct talk on naktalk Alright, as a former composition teacher and license holding doctor of english (Ph.D Duke 1995), I can't help but jump in to the OT fray here. English is "correct" when the meaning intended by the speaker is the meaning understood by the listener given the context of the utterance. Here's how I used to put it to my composition students: You are driving through rural Alabama on a hot day. Up ahead you spot a dilapidated roadside tavern with 20 Harleys parked out front. You enter, perceiving in the gloom a large number of hairy, leather-clad bikers. You saunter up to the bar to order from the 350lb bartender, a sweaty pin-headed fellow with straw still adhering to the back of his red, sunburned neck. Which of these phrases is the correct one? 1. "Sir, may I purchase a Budweiser." 2. "Gimme a Bud." Most students would usually pick sentence one as being "correct". Those students are wrong. In that context, that phrase is likelier to get you an ass-kicking than it is get you a beer. The second sentence is "correct"; considered in context it's better English than the first. So, I'd defend Gerald's english on the basis that I knew what he meant, it gives me a sense of who he is and where he's from, and it was appropriate given the context of an informal internet discussion forum. There. Oh,and Nakamichi, Nakamichi, Nakamichi. Fred -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dgb100 at psulias.psu.edu Wed Jan 5 21:30:35 2005 From: dgb100 at psulias.psu.edu (Derrick Beckner) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 15:30:35 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? In-Reply-To: <002f01c4f35f$2ba828e0$2ce34c51@oemcomputer> References: <002101c4f340$7a64f630$15eeb3a4@tfcorp.tfn.com> <002f01c4f35f$2ba828e0$2ce34c51@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20050105152354.01bb3f28@psulias.psu.edu> I have two AWD Subarus, a Forester and a WRX. I will never buy another every day car that is not AWD. In wet or snowy weather there is simply no comparison between these and a FWD car. The Forester is more like a Station Wagon in size and insurance. :) Handles very well. As for the WRX, let's just say you haven't experienced life until you've dropped the clutch of a turbo/AWD car at 6000 or so rpm! I can also take it anywhere a Jeep can go as long as high ground clearance isn't required. I don't know how people can fight with a Expiditon or Pick up truck everyday. Those things are like driving tanks. I think the biggest problem on the road today are cell phones. There is absolutely no reason for a person to be talking on the phone while driving. None. Yet I see probably 1 of 5 people driving on the phone. I see people on the phone as they are backing out of their driveway! What the hell? At 02:45 PM 1/5/2005, you wrote: >Interesting view. I think the objection to SUV's, and may other 4-wheel >drive monsters (Shogan, et al), is that they are grossly wasteful of >gasoline, a resource that is becoming more precious by the day and without >which Western society as we know it would cease. Thus, the criticism is of >people who drive these vehicles without any mitigation (i.e. they don't need >such a specialist vehicle) and waste gallons of fuel for a 2 mile trip to >the shopping mall. The other is that if a SUV (or any big four-wheel drive >monster) and especially one with bullbars, should hit a pedestrian, the >pedestrian is many times more likely to die than if he were hit by a simple >saloon car driving at the same speed. And since most pedestrians hit by >vehicles tend to be children, we might reduce child (and adult) FATACs on >the roads making these off-road vehicles drive only off the road. > >Thus, it ought to be compulsory to fit all SUVs and their like with >Nakamichi cassette machines with an inbuilt tape recording of Rubenstein >playing Chopin's "The Funeral March" !!! (Phew! Still on topic!!) > >Gra' > From dgb100 at psulias.psu.edu Wed Jan 5 21:41:43 2005 From: dgb100 at psulias.psu.edu (Derrick Beckner) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 15:41:43 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Grammar In-Reply-To: <003701c4f360$004a5d20$2ce34c51@oemcomputer> References: <6.1.2.0.0.20050105094532.01984a80@psulias.psu.edu> <003701c4f360$004a5d20$2ce34c51@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20050105153124.01c07f30@psulias.psu.edu> You're making my point for me! We are supposed to have standardized spelling and grammar in this country so there are fewer misunderstandings. The written word is the foundation of civilization, and is the single most defining aspect of humanity vs the animal kingdom. Humans can pass forward accumulated knowledge due to language, and more effectively through written language. I don't protest too much either. I used to be a horrible speller despite being a very good writer. When I was in college, pre-spell check days, I would usually lose an entire letter grade due to spelling errors despite writing very good papers. I was a history and political science major so most of my grades were based on term papers or written exams. I learned the hard way. I can also tell you, from both sides of the management desk, that a well written cover letter is the best way to get a job interview. If you have a misspelling or use poor grammar in a cover letter, you can kiss that job opportunity good-bye. God, I can't belive I getting my panties in a bunch over grammar. Old Mrs. McFerin would be so happy! At 02:51 PM 1/5/2005, you wrote: >Methinks thou protest too much! LOL! What I meant was that it may be >imprudent to assume someone has not take time to form a view point simply >because YOU may think they have communicated the idea badly. One of the >saddest things I think I've witnessed in email exchanges is when people >communicate and completely misunderstand each other in terms of their >position, strength of feeling and even their point of view. I've seen >warfare break out between folk who actually shared the same views but >couldn't see it. Why? Because they were not used to each other's style of >writing and use of language. > >Be cool, Derrick - I'm only playing with you! <> > >Gra' From greynolds at newsguy.com Thu Jan 6 00:13:53 2005 From: greynolds at newsguy.com (greynolds at newsguy.com) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 18:13:53 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Grammar References: <6.1.2.0.0.20050104093941.01b39380@psulias.psu.edu><004501c4f307$b6a1e380$fdd94c51@oemcomputer> <6.1.2.0.0.20050105094532.01984a80@psulias.psu.edu> Message-ID: <000901c4f37c$3a240570$c801a8c0@geoffwin2k> From: "Derrick Beckner" > Maybe if the rant was pro-Bush you all would have been more critical? :) Given the feelings against SUV's I'd be surprised to see a pro-Bush rant here :). Of course, this is supposed to be the NakTalk list, so I would hope that SUV's and politics (or am I being redundant) would be irrelevant here... -- Geoffrey Reynolds From greynolds at newsguy.com Thu Jan 6 00:15:35 2005 From: greynolds at newsguy.com (greynolds at newsguy.com) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 18:15:35 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Correct talk on naktalk References: <200501040803.j0482sHZ029923@zebra.naks.com><8CE7E3A7-5E88-11D9-8164-000D93C246E2@mac.com> <6.1.2.0.0.20050105093547.01a18bc0@psulias.psu.edu> Message-ID: <001f01c4f37c$76386c40$c801a8c0@geoffwin2k> From: "Derrick Beckner" > Gerald, this is about grammar now, not you. I apologize if it appears I'm > bashing you, I really just have a thing about how poorly email > communications are constructed in general. It certainly doesn't bother me when the English clearly isn't the primary language for the person who is posting, but someone with a graduate degree in English ought to be able to post something reasonably coherent :). -- Geoffrey Reynolds From greynolds at newsguy.com Thu Jan 6 00:21:16 2005 From: greynolds at newsguy.com (greynolds at newsguy.com) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 18:21:16 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? References: <002f01c4f35f$2ba828e0$2ce34c51@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <003a01c4f37d$41c2bf00$c801a8c0@geoffwin2k> From: "Nelson" > Interesting view. I think the objection to SUV's, and may other 4-wheel > drive monsters (Shogan, et al), is that they are grossly wasteful of > gasoline, a resource that is becoming more precious by the day and without > which Western society as we know it would cease. Thus, the criticism is of > people who drive these vehicles without any mitigation (i.e. they don't need > such a specialist vehicle) and waste gallons of fuel for a 2 mile trip to > the shopping mall. And thus the SUV isn't the monster - the owner is :). > The other is that if a SUV (or any big four-wheel drive > monster) and especially one with bullbars, should hit a pedestrian, the > pedestrian is many times more likely to die than if he were hit by a simple > saloon car driving at the same speed. And since most pedestrians hit by > vehicles tend to be children, we might reduce child (and adult) FATACs on > the roads making these off-road vehicles drive only off the road. I've heard this argument before, but I've seen enough arguments on both sides on this issue, that I'm not really convinced one way or another. Once you get past a certain speed, I suspect that the presence of a bullbar is moot. I use my SUV primarily for hauling stuff that won't fit in my Honda and for real recreational offroad use. I use my Honda to commute to work, etc. Hopefully that is acceptable with the majority of the list members ;). Otherwise feel free to call me a monster, take my CR-3A and CR-7A away from me, and banish me from this list... Can we get back to the topic of this list??? -- Geoffrey Reynolds From neillipes628 at hotmail.com Thu Jan 6 00:54:51 2005 From: neillipes628 at hotmail.com (neil lipes) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 18:54:51 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? In-Reply-To: <002f01c4f35f$2ba828e0$2ce34c51@oemcomputer> Message-ID: I repeat....read the book..."The High And The Mighty".......You will never feel the same way about these vehicles! >From: "Nelson" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Subject: RE: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank >cassette? >Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:45:55 -0000 > >Interesting view. I think the objection to SUV's, and may other 4-wheel >drive monsters (Shogan, et al), is that they are grossly wasteful of >gasoline, a resource that is becoming more precious by the day and without >which Western society as we know it would cease. Thus, the criticism is >of >people who drive these vehicles without any mitigation (i.e. they don't >need >such a specialist vehicle) and waste gallons of fuel for a 2 mile trip to >the shopping mall. The other is that if a SUV (or any big four-wheel drive >monster) and especially one with bullbars, should hit a pedestrian, the >pedestrian is many times more likely to die than if he were hit by a simple >saloon car driving at the same speed. And since most pedestrians hit by >vehicles tend to be children, we might reduce child (and adult) FATACs on >the roads making these off-road vehicles drive only off the road. > >Thus, it ought to be compulsory to fit all SUVs and their like with >Nakamichi cassette machines with an inbuilt tape recording of Rubenstein >playing Chopin's "The Funeral March" !!! (Phew! Still on topic!!) > >Gra' > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > Behalf Of Geoffrey Reynolds > > Sent: 05 January 2005 16:06 > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank > > cassette? > > > > > > From: "neil lipes" > > > > > You should read the book published by PublicAffairs (NYC) (the > > exact name > > > escapes me at this time of the morning) concerning the hazards these > > > "monsters" possess, since you own an SUV I doubt you will have > > an unbiased > > > view, but anyone with intellectual honesty can only reach one >conclusion > > > after reading the book. And oh I have been told some of these >"monster" > > > vehicles have Nakamichi radios on board..(a neccessary thing to have >as > > your > > > vehicle crushes the vehicle it has just hit...we can't have the sound >of > > > crumpling steel intrude on our morning commute!) > > > > Oh lord... For the most part, it's the idiot behind the steering > > wheel that > > matters, not what they're driving. I also drive a Honda Accord for > > commuting simply because it gets better gas mileage than my Land > > Rover does. > > There are just as many idiots driving Hondas, Toyotas, VW's, > > BMW's, etc. To > > conclude that the vehicle itself is responsible for increased >hostilities, > > accidents, etc. is an absurd conclusion. If your assertion is that >SUV's > > cause more damage than a compact car when in accidents, then it's pretty > > obvious that a 6000lb vehicle is going to cause more damage than a >3000lb > > vehicle all other things being equal (duh). Of course, I'd much rather >be > > in my Land Rover than my Honda if I get into an accident. > > > > Interestingly, my Land Rover has been rear ended a couple of > > times (once by > > a compact car, the other by a Jeep Grand Cherokee) - in both cases I was > > either stopped at a stop sign or traffic light. Both vehicles that rear > > ended me got towed away and I sustained no damage beyond a bit of paint > > transfer in either case. There was no personal injury involved in >either > > accident. Clearly, my "monster" SUV must have been at fault > > simply becuase > > it's an SUV, but it was pretty convenient for me to be able to drive >home > > without any damage to my vehicle when I wasn't at fault (police > > showed up in > > both cases). On the other hand, my Honda got rear ended (I was > > stopped at a > > red light) by another compact car and while I was able to drive it, I >was > > inconvenienced by having to take it to a body shop for repairs. > > > > I find it amazing how people jump to incredibly misinformed conclusions. > > Blaming a certain type of vehicle for some of the problems of society is > > crazy. Blame the specific PEOPLE and how they use the item > > (whatever it may > > be), not the material item. > > > > There are people out there who litterally blow up SUV's because they >think > > they're evil. To me, that isn't much (if any) different from the > > idiots who > > hijacked airplanes and flew them into the World Trade Center towers in >NY. > > -- > > Geoffrey Reynolds > > http://landrover.geoff-reynolds.net > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Don�t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From bwana747 at hotmail.com Thu Jan 6 01:07:41 2005 From: bwana747 at hotmail.com (bwana747 _) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 18:07:41 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Correct talk on naktalk In-Reply-To: <000501c4f34d$7a5f16e0$2ce34c51@oemcomputer> Message-ID: Greetings from the Rocket City: Huntsville, Alabama. Home of Marshall Space Flight Center, Missile Command, Redstone Arsenal and probably more cutting edge technology firms and engineers per square mile than Silicon Valley (certainly the case for aerospace, rocket, space station and defense systems). Keep your eyes open for Zenu: a new local technology which will enable PDA/Blackberry based unmanned defense and reconnaisance / logistics systems. Don't forget the locally designed and built "Star Wars" anti-missile systems standing ready in case Pyongyang lobs any ICBMs "westward." It's a sweaty job here but it keeps us free. I'll keep y'all (sic) posted on my soon to be released Nakamichi Wi-Fi remote control interface with quantum encryption in case anyone steals the remote! Regards, Bob >From: "Nelson" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Correct talk on naktalk >Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 17:39:16 -0000 > >And what if I am?!! <> > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On >Behalf >Of Doug Locke > Sent: 05 January 2005 09:21 > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Correct talk on naktalk > > > Fred, I hope that you are not suggesting that any of the subscribers to >this conference are 350lb sweaty pin headed fellows from rural Alabama! > > Doug. > > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On >Behalf Of Fred Lifton > Sent: 04 January 2005 19:41 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] Correct talk on naktalk > > > Alright, as a former composition teacher and license holding doctor of >english (Ph.D Duke 1995), I can't help but jump in to the OT fray here. >English is "correct" when the meaning intended by the speaker is the >meaning >understood by the listener given the context of the utterance. Here's how I >used to put it to my composition students: > > You are driving through rural Alabama on a hot day. Up ahead you spot >a >dilapidated roadside tavern with 20 Harleys parked out front. You enter, >perceiving in the gloom a large number of hairy, leather-clad bikers. You >saunter up to the bar to order from the 350lb bartender, a sweaty >pin-headed >fellow with straw still adhering to the back of his red, sunburned neck. >Which of these phrases is the correct one? > 1. "Sir, may I purchase a Budweiser." > 2. "Gimme a Bud." > > Most students would usually pick sentence one as being "correct". >Those >students are wrong. In that context, that phrase is likelier to get you an >ass-kicking than it is get you a beer. The second sentence is "correct"; >considered in context it's better English than the first. > > So, I'd defend Gerald's english on the basis that I knew what he >meant, >it gives me a sense of who he is and where he's from, and it was >appropriate >given the context of an informal internet discussion forum. There. > > Oh,and Nakamichi, Nakamichi, Nakamichi. > > Fred > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= From man626 at webtv.net Thu Jan 6 01:40:00 2005 From: man626 at webtv.net (Gerald G.) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 18:40:00 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Correct talk on Naktalk Message-ID: <9691-41DC88E0-2326@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net> Okay,just for the record;the infamous post on family feuds and corruption of morality within the american family unit,and to a larger extent,within American society as a hole(Yes,HOLE!!!), was precipitated by a post from Colin ,who seemingly couldn't understand why a Naktalk "family" could argue,quarrle,or otherwise "fight".This "treatise" was supported by an example of his own family, which, as he stated, was not disfunctional. His "argument"was augmented with a brief condemnation of the Bush/Blair alliance,and just why-I cannot recall( was that garammatically correct?). My original post wasn't written to the Naktalk line in general,but to Colin and those interested in the thread.It included a discalimer asking those not interested to disregard the post. Be that as it may,let me sincerely and most ferverently hope that your'e famiy,like Colins'(of whom i heard no reply) enjoys the most balaced and functional of family realtionships.The primary intent of my initial post was to expand on Colins' post. That having been said,i(yes "i"-{E.E Cummings}) just heard a public service announcement today on our local AM radio which announced that most (A)american families suffer some type of mental disease(depression being foremost( i would hazard a guess)and then stress disorders and so on and so forth). (paragraph{forgive my e-literracy})..In conclusion,let me say that i apologized offline to a valued and esteemed member of the Naktak.I do NOT want this person on my bad side.I was self propelled(what?.. okay.. so I just bought a brand new John Deer lawn mower, and it makes the Sweeeeetest sound,almost as nice as my Nakamichi) to ask this person to upgrade my rambling, stream of consciousness, unedited ( "naked") original post from a "Rant" to a "Tirade". I hope that that is not asking too much.This I absolutely HAD to do in deference those great Naltalkers who supported my post. This will be the last post i make concerning this.thanks.{Post script-youre okay Land Rover owner-its only the FULLSIZED S.U.V's that need demolition.Funny to see a 5'2 woman behind the wheel when they get out of their Hummers-i always chuckle to myself.."there goes the Wizard of Oz.The perfect vehicle?..Mercury Crown Victoria-unpretentious,moderate gas guzzler..nice......This post brought to you by Miller Light From stan.targowski at comcast.net Thu Jan 6 02:59:39 2005 From: stan.targowski at comcast.net (Stan Targowski) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:59:39 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Quantegy - Last Manufacturer of Pro Analog Audio Tape Closes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Looks like the audio tape format is indeed becoming defunct ... http://slashdot.org/articles/05/01/06/004226.shtml?tid=141&tid=188&tid=1 What are the cassettes that are still in production now around the world? - TDK D - Maxell UR, XLII - Fuji Z-II any others? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Would be correct to say that from cannabalising a single CR1A, I get a durable Sankyo motor for the Cassette Deck 1 plus an equally durable idler gear upgrade for my BX300 in one fell swoop? Ben Ng _________________________________________________________________ Block pop-up ads with MSN Toolbar. http://toolbar.msn.com.my/ From bg3009 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 6 07:03:28 2005 From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 22:03:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like In-Reply-To: <003101c4f35f$2e25fa20$2ce34c51@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <20050106060328.93120.qmail@web41412.mail.yahoo.com> So would I! But wouldnt 24/96 be more higher resolution then? Bala Nelson wrote: Yum yum! I'd love to hear that through a nice amp and speakers ... > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of Richard L. Hess > Sent: 05 January 2005 19:08 > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like > > > Bala, a CD is recorded at 44,100 samples per second with 16 bits > per channel per > sample. I am recording 24 bits per sample per channel at 88,200 > samples per > second: double the sample rate and 50% more bits. 88.2/24 is the usual > shorthand for identifying this. A CD is 44.1/16 > > Cheers, > > Richard > -- > > Richard L. Hess > http://www.richardhess.com/ > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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ALEX! >From: "Stan Targowski" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Subject: [naktalk] Quantegy - Last Manufacturer of Pro Analog Audio >TapeCloses >Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:59:39 -0600 > >Looks like the audio tape format is indeed becoming defunct ... >http://slashdot.org/articles/05/01/06/004226.shtml?tid=141&tid=188&tid=1 > >What are the cassettes that are still in production now around the world? > >- TDK D >- Maxell UR, XLII >- Fuji Z-II > >any others? > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From alexcozac at hotmail.com Thu Jan 6 09:51:51 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 10:51:51 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Grammar Message-ID: Bravo Geoffrey! It's enough of "GRAMMAR" etc....! Let chat on Nakamichi problems or else in relation with Naks products...PLEASE!!!! Thanks to all of you for your comprehend!!!!!! ALEX! >From: greynolds at newsguy.com >Reply-To: greynolds at newsguy.com, Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Grammar >Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 18:13:53 -0500 > >From: "Derrick Beckner" > > > Maybe if the rant was pro-Bush you all would have been more critical? :) > >Given the feelings against SUV's I'd be surprised to see a pro-Bush rant >here :). > >Of course, this is supposed to be the NakTalk list, so I would hope that >SUV's and politics (or am I being redundant) would be irrelevant here... >-- >Geoffrey Reynolds > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Thu Jan 6 09:53:07 2005 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 19:53:07 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Quantegy - Last Manufacturer of Pro Analog Audio Ta pe Closes Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D0531D7E4@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> That's a bit sad, I guess you are right Stan about the tape format becoming defunct. This is Tom "snif", signing off. -----Original Message----- From: Stan Targowski [mailto:stan.targowski at comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, 6 January 2005 1:00 PM To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: [naktalk] Quantegy - Last Manufacturer of Pro Analog Audio Tape Closes Looks like the audio tape format is indeed becoming defunct ... http://slashdot.org/articles/05/01/06/004226.shtml?tid=141 &tid=188&tid=1 What are the cassettes that are still in production now around the world? - TDK D - Maxell UR, XLII - Fuji Z-II any others? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wdrewes at iafrica.com Thu Jan 6 10:24:42 2005 From: wdrewes at iafrica.com (wme drewes) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 11:24:42 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? References: <002101c4f340$7a64f630$15eeb3a4@tfcorp.tfn.com><002f01c4f35f$2ba828e0$2ce34c51@oemcomputer> <6.1.2.0.0.20050105152354.01bb3f28@psulias.psu.edu> Message-ID: <000d01c4f3d1$8ea97080$0e92fea9@wdrewes> I take it those are Nakamichi cell phones? (just kidding!) In this country(South Africa) by law no cell phones may be activated in a moving car!This applies whether it is built-in ,ear piece type or connected through the Nak radio! Nakamichi Nakamichi NAKAMICHI !!! We also dont have NAKAMICHI cars here so I cant join in the discussion--I know absolutely nothing about them! Walter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derrick Beckner" To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 10:30 PM Subject: RE: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank cassette? > I have two AWD Subarus, a Forester and a WRX. I will never buy another > every day car that is not AWD. In wet or snowy weather there is simply no > comparison between these and a FWD car. The Forester is more like a > Station Wagon in size and insurance. :) Handles very well. As for the > WRX, let's just say you haven't experienced life until you've dropped the > clutch of a turbo/AWD car at 6000 or so rpm! I can also take it anywhere a > Jeep can go as long as high ground clearance isn't required. I don't know > how people can fight with a Expiditon or Pick up truck everyday. Those > things are like driving tanks. > > I think the biggest problem on the road today are cell phones. There is > absolutely no reason for a person to be talking on the phone while > driving. None. Yet I see probably 1 of 5 people driving on the phone. I > see people on the phone as they are backing out of their driveway! What > the hell? > > > > At 02:45 PM 1/5/2005, you wrote: > >Interesting view. I think the objection to SUV's, and may other 4-wheel > >drive monsters (Shogan, et al), is that they are grossly wasteful of > >gasoline, a resource that is becoming more precious by the day and without > >which Western society as we know it would cease. Thus, the criticism is of > >people who drive these vehicles without any mitigation (i.e. they don't need > >such a specialist vehicle) and waste gallons of fuel for a 2 mile trip to > >the shopping mall. The other is that if a SUV (or any big four-wheel drive > >monster) and especially one with bullbars, should hit a pedestrian, the > >pedestrian is many times more likely to die than if he were hit by a simple > >saloon car driving at the same speed. And since most pedestrians hit by > >vehicles tend to be children, we might reduce child (and adult) FATACs on > >the roads making these off-road vehicles drive only off the road. > > > >Thus, it ought to be compulsory to fit all SUVs and their like with > >Nakamichi cassette machines with an inbuilt tape recording of Rubenstein > >playing Chopin's "The Funeral March" !!! (Phew! Still on topic!!) > > > >Gra' > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From wdrewes at iafrica.com Thu Jan 6 10:33:16 2005 From: wdrewes at iafrica.com (wme drewes) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 11:33:16 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? References: Message-ID: <005201c4f3d2$c0b3b120$0e92fea9@wdrewes> On which (or is it what) page of the book do they discuss the ZX7 again? I am sure I can get the book in the local bookstore. Walter (kidding!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "neil lipes" To: Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 1:54 AM Subject: RE: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank cassette? > I repeat....read the book..."The High And The Mighty".......You will never > feel the same way about these vehicles! > > >From: "Nelson" > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank > >cassette? > >Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:45:55 -0000 > > > >Interesting view. I think the objection to SUV's, and may other 4-wheel > >drive monsters (Shogan, et al), is that they are grossly wasteful of > >gasoline, a resource that is becoming more precious by the day and without > >which Western society as we know it would cease. Thus, the criticism is > >of > >people who drive these vehicles without any mitigation (i.e. they don't > >need > >such a specialist vehicle) and waste gallons of fuel for a 2 mile trip to > >the shopping mall. The other is that if a SUV (or any big four-wheel drive > >monster) and especially one with bullbars, should hit a pedestrian, the > >pedestrian is many times more likely to die than if he were hit by a simple > >saloon car driving at the same speed. And since most pedestrians hit by > >vehicles tend to be children, we might reduce child (and adult) FATACs on > >the roads making these off-road vehicles drive only off the road. > > > >Thus, it ought to be compulsory to fit all SUVs and their like with > >Nakamichi cassette machines with an inbuilt tape recording of Rubenstein > >playing Chopin's "The Funeral March" !!! (Phew! Still on topic!!) > > > >Gra' > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > > Behalf Of Geoffrey Reynolds > > > Sent: 05 January 2005 16:06 > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank > > > cassette? > > > > > > > > > From: "neil lipes" > > > > > > > You should read the book published by PublicAffairs (NYC) (the > > > exact name > > > > escapes me at this time of the morning) concerning the hazards these > > > > "monsters" possess, since you own an SUV I doubt you will have > > > an unbiased > > > > view, but anyone with intellectual honesty can only reach one > >conclusion > > > > after reading the book. And oh I have been told some of these > >"monster" > > > > vehicles have Nakamichi radios on board..(a neccessary thing to have > >as > > > your > > > > vehicle crushes the vehicle it has just hit...we can't have the sound > >of > > > > crumpling steel intrude on our morning commute!) > > > > > > Oh lord... For the most part, it's the idiot behind the steering > > > wheel that > > > matters, not what they're driving. I also drive a Honda Accord for > > > commuting simply because it gets better gas mileage than my Land > > > Rover does. > > > There are just as many idiots driving Hondas, Toyotas, VW's, > > > BMW's, etc. To > > > conclude that the vehicle itself is responsible for increased > >hostilities, > > > accidents, etc. is an absurd conclusion. If your assertion is that > >SUV's > > > cause more damage than a compact car when in accidents, then it's pretty > > > obvious that a 6000lb vehicle is going to cause more damage than a > >3000lb > > > vehicle all other things being equal (duh). Of course, I'd much rather > >be > > > in my Land Rover than my Honda if I get into an accident. > > > > > > Interestingly, my Land Rover has been rear ended a couple of > > > times (once by > > > a compact car, the other by a Jeep Grand Cherokee) - in both cases I was > > > either stopped at a stop sign or traffic light. Both vehicles that rear > > > ended me got towed away and I sustained no damage beyond a bit of paint > > > transfer in either case. There was no personal injury involved in > >either > > > accident. Clearly, my "monster" SUV must have been at fault > > > simply becuase > > > it's an SUV, but it was pretty convenient for me to be able to drive > >home > > > without any damage to my vehicle when I wasn't at fault (police > > > showed up in > > > both cases). On the other hand, my Honda got rear ended (I was > > > stopped at a > > > red light) by another compact car and while I was able to drive it, I > >was > > > inconvenienced by having to take it to a body shop for repairs. > > > > > > I find it amazing how people jump to incredibly misinformed conclusions. > > > Blaming a certain type of vehicle for some of the problems of society is > > > crazy. Blame the specific PEOPLE and how they use the item > > > (whatever it may > > > be), not the material item. > > > > > > There are people out there who litterally blow up SUV's because they > >think > > > they're evil. To me, that isn't much (if any) different from the > > > idiots who > > > hijacked airplanes and flew them into the World Trade Center towers in > >NY. > > > -- > > > Geoffrey Reynolds > > > http://landrover.geoff-reynolds.net > > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! > http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Thu Jan 6 10:53:16 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 09:53:16 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001801c4f3d5$8b768340$60984c51@oemcomputer> Ah, you failed to get in a reference to Nakamichi in that post!! Lose ten points, or better still, one of your Nakamichi's .... > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of neil lipes > Sent: 05 January 2005 23:55 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: RE: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank > cassette? > > > I repeat....read the book..."The High And The Mighty".......You > will never > feel the same way about these vehicles! > > From doug at whiteapple.u-net.com Thu Jan 6 12:31:37 2005 From: doug at whiteapple.u-net.com (Doug Locke) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 11:31:37 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Correct talk on naktalk In-Reply-To: <000501c4f34d$7a5f16e0$2ce34c51@oemcomputer> Message-ID: Nelson, according to the ground rules established so far "hey, thats one fine Nakamichi you have there big fella" Doug. -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Nelson Sent: 05 January 2005 17:39 To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: RE: [naktalk] Correct talk on naktalk And what if I am?!! <> -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Doug Locke Sent: 05 January 2005 09:21 To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: RE: [naktalk] Correct talk on naktalk Fred, I hope that you are not suggesting that any of the subscribers to this conference are 350lb sweaty pin headed fellows from rural Alabama! Doug. -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Fred Lifton Sent: 04 January 2005 19:41 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Correct talk on naktalk Alright, as a former composition teacher and license holding doctor of english (Ph.D Duke 1995), I can't help but jump in to the OT fray here. English is "correct" when the meaning intended by the speaker is the meaning understood by the listener given the context of the utterance. Here's how I used to put it to my composition students: You are driving through rural Alabama on a hot day. Up ahead you spot a dilapidated roadside tavern with 20 Harleys parked out front. You enter, perceiving in the gloom a large number of hairy, leather-clad bikers. You saunter up to the bar to order from the 350lb bartender, a sweaty pin-headed fellow with straw still adhering to the back of his red, sunburned neck. Which of these phrases is the correct one? 1. "Sir, may I purchase a Budweiser." 2. "Gimme a Bud." Most students would usually pick sentence one as being "correct". Those students are wrong. In that context, that phrase is likelier to get you an ass-kicking than it is get you a beer. The second sentence is "correct"; considered in context it's better English than the first. So, I'd defend Gerald's english on the basis that I knew what he meant, it gives me a sense of who he is and where he's from, and it was appropriate given the context of an informal internet discussion forum. There. Oh,and Nakamichi, Nakamichi, Nakamichi. Fred -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From enoyes at snet.net Thu Jan 6 13:33:47 2005 From: enoyes at snet.net (Edward Noyes) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 07:33:47 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? In-Reply-To: <41DC03AA.4020308@cox.net> References: <41DC03AA.4020308@cox.net> Message-ID: <41DD302B.9070005@snet.net> Really the best car to have in NYC is a wreck. When I was in my early adulthood, I had a beat up 20 year old Chevy Nova. I think people generally realized that I didn't much care if it took on another good dent or not! It was also liberating for me to drive pretty much care free in that urban jungle. Ed Tim Barrett wrote: > Neil - > > I'm not a New Yorker, but my wife was until I married her and 'made' > her move down to VA. During my episodes of driving in Manhattan I > noticed a definite pecking order to vehicles and traffic rights on the > streets. Dump trucks and vehicles of their ilk were definitely the > top of the heap. They did whatever they wanted to do and everyone > else seemed to accomodate them. Next were big delivery trucks, the > bigger the better, and then there was this whole battle going on > between cabs and buses and limos. People in normal cars were at the > mercy of all of the above, but even with the normal cars there were > levels of peckmanship. > > Since I didn't live there, but just had to deal with it sporadically, > I found it all very amusing. At the time I owned a Jeep Cherokee and > a Saturn. Other drivers gave me greater latitude and more deference > when I was driving the Jeep, and in the Saturn I just sort of > disappeared into the throng and was ignored entirely. > > The most fun I ever had on the streets of Manhattan was when we moved > my wife out. I rented a 24 foot U-Haul truck and drove it from 24th > and 2nd Ave out of the city and down to VA, and boy it was refreshing > to have everyone get out of my way. People seemed to anticipate what > I was about to do and just move out of the way. No honking horns or > dirty looks or anything. > > That may be one of the reasons why someone would want an intimidating > vehicle on the streets of NY. > > But where can they park it? > > Tim > > neil lipes wrote: > >> You should read the book published by PublicAffairs (NYC) (the exact >> name escapes me at this time of the morning) concerning the hazards >> these "monsters" possess, since you own an SUV I doubt you will have >> an unbiased view, but anyone with intellectual honesty can only reach >> one conclusion after reading the book. And oh I have been told some >> of these "monster" vehicles have Nakamichi radios on board..(a >> neccessary thing to have as your vehicle crushes the vehicle it has >> just hit...we can't have the sound of crumpling steel intrude on our >> morning commute!) >> >> N >> >>> From: "Geoffrey Reynolds" >>> Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >>> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a >>> blank cassette? >>> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 10:41:53 -0500 >>> >>> From: "neil lipes" >>> >>> > Yes....... sorry fellows, but the amount of testosterone on NYC >>> streets is >>> > overwhelming!.....and sorry but, what is with all the females that >>> are 5 >>> > foot tall behind the wheels of these monsters??? I guess the >>> operative >>> word >>> > is a INTIMIDATE! Those vehicles are a menace no two ways about it. >>> >>> Some of the drivers of any vehicle (not just SUV's) are the menace, >>> not the >>> vehicles. Do most of the people who drive SUV's actually "need" them? >>> Probably not, but the same argument could be made of our Nakamichi tape >>> decks too - we could get by quite well with a CD recorder, but we >>> enjoy our >>> Naks. Same thing with vehicles and many other material things. >>> >>> But I ask again if this is the Naktalk list or if I've been >>> transferred to >>> another... >>> -- >>> Geoffrey Reynolds >>> Land Rover Discovery and Nak CR-7A Owner >>> >>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>> >>> Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>> >>> Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >>> Maintain your account here: >>> http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>> >> >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's >> FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ >> >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> >> Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> >> Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> >> > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > From enoyes at snet.net Thu Jan 6 13:36:44 2005 From: enoyes at snet.net (Edward Noyes) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 07:36:44 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Correct talk on naktalk In-Reply-To: <000501c4f34d$7a5f16e0$2ce34c51@oemcomputer> References: <000501c4f34d$7a5f16e0$2ce34c51@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <41DD30DC.2040300@snet.net> Okay... cat's out of the bag. Yes, I am a 350lb sweaty pinhead from Alabama... now gimme a bud already! Ed Nelson wrote: > And what if I am?!! <> > > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of Doug Locke > Sent: 05 January 2005 09:21 > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Correct talk on naktalk > > Fred, I hope that you are not suggesting that any of the > subscribers to this conference are 350lb sweaty pin headed fellows > from rural Alabama! > > Doug. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com > [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Fred Lifton > Sent: 04 January 2005 19:41 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] Correct talk on naktalk > > Alright, as a former composition teacher and license holding > doctor of english (Ph.D Duke 1995), I can't help but jump in > to the OT fray here. English is "correct" when the meaning > intended by the speaker is the meaning understood by the > listener given the context of the utterance. Here's how I used > to put it to my composition students: > > You are driving through rural Alabama on a hot day. Up ahead > you spot a dilapidated roadside tavern with 20 Harleys parked > out front. You enter, perceiving in the gloom a large number > of hairy, leather-clad bikers. You saunter up to the bar to > order from the 350lb bartender, a sweaty pin-headed fellow > with straw still adhering to the back of his red, sunburned > neck. Which of these phrases is the correct one? > 1. "Sir, may I purchase a Budweiser." > 2. "Gimme a Bud." > > Most students would usually pick sentence one as being > "correct". Those students are wrong. In that context, that > phrase is likelier to get you an ass-kicking than it is get > you a beer. The second sentence is "correct"; considered in > context it's better English than the first. > > So, I'd defend Gerald's english on the basis that I knew what > he meant, it gives me a sense of who he is and where he's > from, and it was appropriate given the context of an informal > internet discussion forum. There. > > Oh,and Nakamichi, Nakamichi, Nakamichi. > > Fred > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neillipes628 at hotmail.com Thu Jan 6 13:45:30 2005 From: neillipes628 at hotmail.com (neil lipes) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 07:45:30 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? In-Reply-To: <001801c4f3d5$8b768340$60984c51@oemcomputer> Message-ID: And their on board Naks!.There I got it in!, so there! >From: "Nelson" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Subject: RE: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank >cassette? >Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 09:53:16 -0000 > >Ah, you failed to get in a reference to Nakamichi in that post!! Lose ten >points, or better still, one of your Nakamichi's .... > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > Behalf Of neil lipes > > Sent: 05 January 2005 23:55 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank > > cassette? > > > > > > I repeat....read the book..."The High And The Mighty".......You > > will never > > feel the same way about these vehicles! > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! hthttp://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From cmmarsh at ntlworld.com Thu Jan 6 14:10:55 2005 From: cmmarsh at ntlworld.com (Colin Marsh) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 13:10:55 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] SUV's! Grammar! What the Hell! Message-ID: First I must ask you to excuse my grammar, I am a common man, I come from the East End of London England and my degree is only in engineering! so I know my place guv! Nearly every posting in the last week as been on the subjects of Grammar or SUV's and the No. of Dragons you own!. What is going on? lets finish with all this crap! First lets look at SUV's. 4 + 4's and the like. come on you guys, you all know the ONLY reason why you drive them and it's nowt to do with guzzling petrol, running bulls over with you bars, moving heavy goods, protecting yourself from other road users, squashing little children and old ladies or choking the world with your pollution. My grandmother told me that the only reason men drive these monsters is all about the size of their private bits!, you know, Man driving big powerful car = little willie. Woman driving big powerful car = her man has a little willie. I am told that's why there are so many SUV's in the US! Yes its true! I once knew a lovely old lady. who spent her "working" life entertaining gentlemen in Bayswater, London. What she told me about her observations of international willie sizes over the years backs this up! Oh, I drive a 4 + 4, I tow boats the with it that my car wont. The No. of Dragons and CR7's in your spare bedroom possibly has something to do with Penis size as well? Who knows, they say there is nowt as strange as the relationship between men and their machines! Enough said I think. Grammar? What the hell are you guys about! This is the 21st century, things are changing, If I was reading the covering letter for a job application I would realise that that so called "grammatically correct" letter was probably written by somebody else anyway! My best employee, the guy who contributes more to my company than any other (including myself!) cant string 4 words together! so what! I cant imagine nowt so boring that to have a long conversation with somebody who acts like he has "the Shorter Oxford Dictionary" shoved up his ass! Iv'e just finished reading a book by a guy called Clarkson, this guy is passionate about cars and machines and he appears on UK TV all the time. The book has been composed in the same fashion as the man speaks on TV, with passion. So I understand it, it's great! If the book had been edited to make it grammatically correct I would have thrown it aside after the first chapter! American English? so its a bastardised version of the real thing! Colour vs color, who really cares. Your average Englishman doesn't I am sure, Way back in the "Dark ages" of the last century The way you spoke or wrote your language determined your class. In UK at least I believe the reaction to the way we are "Changing " the language is mostly by those who use it to define their "Middle English" status? What a load of bull! Status is now defined by money and nowt else. Will someone out there talk "Nakamichi!" please? after all this is "Naktalk" isn't it? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lists at richardhess.com Thu Jan 6 16:06:58 2005 From: lists at richardhess.com (Richard L. Hess) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 10:06:58 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Quantegy - Last Manufacturer of Pro Analog Audio Tape Closes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20050106100557.03941710@127.0.0.1> At 07:59 PM 1/5/2005 -0600, you wrote: >Looks like the audio tape format is indeed becoming defunct ... >http://slashdot.org/articles/05/01/06/004226.shtml?tid=141&tid=188&tid=1 They've closed but they hope to reopen. There may be another manufacturer of mastering tape coming out of the woodwork, as well. Oh, and guess who supplied NPR with the background music from 19471001 . Cheers, Richard From lists at richardhess.com Thu Jan 6 16:05:35 2005 From: lists at richardhess.com (Richard L. Hess) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 10:05:35 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like In-Reply-To: <20050106060328.93120.qmail@web41412.mail.yahoo.com> References: <003101c4f35f$2e25fa20$2ce34c51@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20050106100350.039455c0@127.0.0.1> At 10:03 PM 1/5/2005 -0800, you wrote: >So would I! But wouldnt 24/96 be more higher resolution then? Bala, yes 24/96 is higher resolution, but 24/88.2 allows a simple 2:1 sample rate reduction when burning CDs. They also use 176.4 and 192 ks/s, but there is some discussion that more isn't better at that point. Read the Pro Audio list archives for that answer, I'm not going to try and summarize here. > >Bala > >Nelson wrote: >Yum yum! I'd love to hear that through a nice amp and speakers ... > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > Behalf Of Richarrd L. Hess > > Sent: 05 January 2005 19:08 > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like > > > > > > Bala, a CD is recorded at 44,100 samples per second with 16 bits > > per channel per > > sample. I am recording 24 bits per sample per channel at 88,200 > > samples per > > second: double the sample rate and 50% more bits. 88.2/24 is the usual > > shorthand for identifying this. A CD is 44.1/16 > > > > Cheers, > > > > Richard From sandorpistike at hotmail.com Thu Jan 6 17:04:18 2005 From: sandorpistike at hotmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=E1ndor_Istv=E1n?=) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 17:04:18 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Best recording deck References: <6.1.2.0.0.20050105112748.0196d178@psulias.psu.edu> Message-ID: Hello all, the ZX7 is really a great fun for me to play with. I simply love that, nearly any type of cassettes can be tuned to get the most performance of the tape. Even close-to-low-end cassettes can perform satisfactory with them. I would not say if they are reliable or not, I have only one ZX7 (my other Naks are inferior in my view, including RX505), and do not run them all the time... On the other hand, what do you think about azimuth-adjustment? My opinion is that it is better to have a fixed playback head, and correct any azimuth-errors while recording, in this way you can get an azimuth-error-free record, and you can play it back on any decks, if playback-azimuth is tuned to the Nak's playback-azimuth, the playback will be ok. If you make recordings with playback-head-tunable deck (record head fixed), you always have to use playback-head tuning, because the blank tapes are different (as far as azimuth-error is concerned), and the recordings will be consequently different. Please let me know if I am very wrong... Thank you! István ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derrick Beckner" To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 5:31 PM Subject: [naktalk] Best recording deck > > > Seems most people agree the CR7 is the best recording Nak, but are > somewhat finicky and early models have some issues. > The ZX7/ZX9 look like a lot of fun to play with. Are they reliable? Do > they record as well as the CR7? > The 680 series seem to be a lot of "purists" favorite decks. > The 700/1000 with ABLE seem to be nearly impossible to maintain at this > point. > Where does the Dragon stand in recording competency? > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From greynolds at newsguy.com Thu Jan 6 15:23:54 2005 From: greynolds at newsguy.com (Geoffrey Reynolds) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 09:23:54 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] SUV's! Grammar! What the Hell! References: Message-ID: <009701c4f3fb$5cfcd1b0$15eeb3a4@tfcorp.tfn.com> From: "Colin Marsh" > First I must ask you to excuse my grammar, I am a common man, I come from > the East End of London England and my degree is only in engineering! so I > know my place guv! > > Nearly every posting in the last week as been on the subjects of Grammar or > SUV's and the No. of Dragons you own!. What is going on? lets finish with > all this crap! > Will someone out there talk "Nakamichi!" please? after all this is > "Naktalk" isn't it? Perhaps you could take your own advice... -- Geoffrey Reynolds From bhonhoff at dds.nl Thu Jan 6 16:50:38 2005 From: bhonhoff at dds.nl (bart honhoff) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 16:50:38 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] SUV's! Grammar! What the Hell! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1105026638.41dd5e4e12501@webmail.dds.nl> Hi, As I took my CR7 out of the garage and went with it into town, I had to hit that BX-2, who was planning to put his TDK-D C120 in front of me store! Being a genuine 'That's MX-90' Cassette I normally refer to those TDK-D's as P*** in the CR-4. If they want to play a cassette properly why do they use a BX125 and not an ZX670? I opened my 600, gave him a smash with my 550 and TriTracered my 700 into his TDK-ED. Luckely there was a Cassette-recorder 1, who stumbled over my 582 and my 580. I put my 202 in reverse and ran off on my 480Z, 480 bart, PS I do own all these Nakamichi's. Quoting Colin Marsh : > > First I must ask you to excuse my grammar, I am a common man, I come from > the East End of London England and my degree is only in engineering! so I > know my place guv! From sandorpistike at hotmail.com Thu Jan 6 17:50:26 2005 From: sandorpistike at hotmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=E1ndor_Istv=E1n?=) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 17:50:26 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] SUV's! Grammar! What the Hell! References: <1105026638.41dd5e4e12501@webmail.dds.nl> Message-ID: Hey, you have all of those Naks...? :-) A "nice" story... sometimes I feel to get somehting language-lessons from you all... bt this story is far too complicated to my English-capabilities... Sorry for being so stupid in English, sometimes I really have to jump some messages, simply because I do not understand what is that all about. (My favorite is when formally one(1!) sentence is the all 6-row message, sometimes I simply do not know where a real sentence begins and where it ends.) Nice to read all your (understandable) messages, but please, do not take anything TOO seriously, as nobody wants to hurt you, via e-mail it is nearly impossible... Kind regards, István ----- Original Message ----- From: "bart honhoff" To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] SUV's! Grammar! What the Hell! > Hi, > > As I took my CR7 out of the garage and went with it into town, I had to hit > that BX-2, who was planning to put his TDK-D C120 in front of me store! > > Being a genuine 'That's MX-90' Cassette I normally refer to those TDK-D's as > P*** in the CR-4. If they want to play a cassette properly why do they use a > BX125 and not an ZX670? I opened my 600, gave him a smash with my 550 and > TriTracered my 700 into his TDK-ED. > > Luckely there was a Cassette-recorder 1, who stumbled over my 582 and my 580. > > I put my 202 in reverse and ran off on my 480Z, > > 480 > > bart, PS I do own all these Nakamichi's. > > Quoting Colin Marsh : > > > > > First I must ask you to excuse my grammar, I am a common man, I come from > > the East End of London England and my degree is only in engineering! so I > > know my place guv! > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From alexcozac at hotmail.com Thu Jan 6 18:05:30 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 19:05:30 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Best recording deck Message-ID: Hi Istvan! The first Tri-Tracer 700 > 700/2 1000 > 1000/2 have the playback fixed from the factory "Calibrated" with a Seal on it!!! and you turn the Recording head, using the build in 500 Hz signal "Level"; for proper azimuth with the Factory 100% fixed and Sealed playback head. That work extremely well, NOW..Dragon line came with maybe a better solution...Playback automatic azimuth...SO...IF you have a lot of cassettes made in many brands of deck machines...will at the END always sound at the best way possible! I love this Dragon feature, as I had during so many years many 3 & 2 heads decks...NOT always 100% factory fixed alignment. Happy Listening! ALEX! >From: S�ndor Istv�n >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Best recording deck >Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 17:04:18 +0100 > >Hello all, > >the ZX7 is really a great fun for me to play with. I simply love that, >nearly any type of cassettes can be tuned to get the most performance of >the tape. >Even close-to-low-end cassettes can perform satisfactory with them. >I would not say if they are reliable or not, I have only one ZX7 (my other >Naks are inferior in my view, including RX505), and do not run them all the >time... > >On the other hand, what do you think about azimuth-adjustment? My opinion >is that it is better to have a fixed playback head, and correct any >azimuth-errors while recording, in this way you can get an >azimuth-error-free record, and you can play it back on any decks, if >playback-azimuth is tuned to the Nak's playback-azimuth, the playback will >be ok. > >If you make recordings with playback-head-tunable deck (record head fixed), >you always have to use playback-head tuning, because the blank tapes are >different (as far as azimuth-error is concerned), and the recordings will >be consequently different. > >Please let me know if I am very wrong... > >Thank you! > >Istv�n >----- Original Message ----- From: "Derrick Beckner" > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 5:31 PM >Subject: [naktalk] Best recording deck > > >> >> >>Seems most people agree the CR7 is the best recording Nak, but are >>somewhat finicky and early models have some issues. >>The ZX7/ZX9 look like a lot of fun to play with. Are they reliable? Do >>they record as well as the CR7? >>The 680 series seem to be a lot of "purists" favorite decks. >>The 700/1000 with ABLE seem to be nearly impossible to maintain at this >>point. >>Where does the Dragon stand in recording competency? >>========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >>========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >>Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >>========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.com/ From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Thu Jan 6 19:17:01 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 18:17:01 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Correct talk on naktalk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003101c4f41b$ebe27e00$9b944c51@oemcomputer> LOL! Like it!! -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Doug Locke Sent: 06 January 2005 11:32 To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: RE: [naktalk] Correct talk on naktalk Nelson, according to the ground rules established so far "hey, thats one fine Nakamichi you have there big fella" Doug. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Thu Jan 6 19:17:06 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 18:17:06 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] SUV's! Grammar! What the Hell! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003601c4f41b$eeab13e0$9b944c51@oemcomputer> Oh Gawd! Neva mind the bleedin' sweaty 350lb pin head, this one's a bleedin' Cockney geeza!! Watcha Colin!! I may now be an 'onorary Scouser these days but I'm originally from Souf of the Riva, mate! The restavya may not understand wot I'm sayin' but Colin wiwl cos 'ees from Lundun. Anyways, this is fonetic spellin' in a Souf Lundun axcent, innit. Now then, me old China. Luv ya postin', mate an' I agree wiv a lot of it. But keep y'blinkin' wig on ' cos we're only 'aving a bit of fun an' ribbin' each uvva! So, wot's Cockney rhymin' slang for Nakamichi? -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Colin Marsh Sent: 06 January 2005 13:11 To: naktalk Subject: [naktalk] SUV's! Grammar! What the Hell! Oh, G First I must ask you to excuse my grammar, I am a common man, I come from the East End of London England and my degree is only in engineering! so I know my place guv! Nearly every posting in the last week as been on the subjects of Grammar or SUV's and the No. of Dragons you own!. What is going on? lets finish with all this crap! First lets look at SUV's. 4 + 4's and the like. come on you guys, you all know the ONLY reason why you drive them and it's nowt to do with guzzling petrol, running bulls over with you bars, moving heavy goods, protecting yourself from other road users, squashing little children and old ladies or choking the world with your pollution. My grandmother told me that the only reason men drive these monsters is all about the size of their private bits!, you know, Man driving big powerful car = little willie. Woman driving big powerful car = her man has a little willie. I am told that's why there are so many SUV's in the US! Yes its true! I once knew a lovely old lady. who spent her "working" life entertaining gentlemen in Bayswater, London. What she told me about her observations of international willie sizes over the years backs this up! Oh, I drive a 4 + 4, I tow boats the with it that my car wont. The No. of Dragons and CR7's in your spare bedroom possibly has something to do with Penis size as well? Who knows, they say there is nowt as strange as the relationship between men and their machines! Enough said I think. Grammar? What the hell are you guys about! This is the 21st century, things are changing, If I was reading the covering letter for a job application I would realise that that so called "grammatically correct" letter was probably written by somebody else anyway! My best employee, the guy who contributes more to my company than any other (including myself!) cant string 4 words together! so what! I cant imagine nowt so boring that to have a long conversation with somebody who acts like he has "the Shorter Oxford Dictionary" shoved up his ass! Iv'e just finished reading a book by a guy called Clarkson, this guy is passionate about cars and machines and he appears on UK TV all the time. The book has been composed in the same fashion as the man speaks on TV, with passion. So I understand it, it's great! If the book had been edited to make it grammatically correct I would have thrown it aside after the first chapter! American English? so its a bastardised version of the real thing! Colour vs color, who really cares. Your average Englishman doesn't I am sure, Way back in the "Dark ages" of the last century The way you spoke or wrote your language determined your class. In UK at least I believe the reaction to the way we are "Changing " the language is mostly by those who use it to define their "Middle English" status? What a load of bull! Status is now defined by money and nowt else. Will someone out there talk "Nakamichi!" please? after all this is "Naktalk" isn't it? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Thu Jan 6 19:17:20 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 18:17:20 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] SUV's! Grammar! What the Hell! In-Reply-To: <1105026638.41dd5e4e12501@webmail.dds.nl> Message-ID: <003b01c4f41b$f63b6b00$9b944c51@oemcomputer> Priceless, Bart!!! Nearly wet m'self! > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of bart honhoff > Sent: 06 January 2005 15:51 > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: Re: [naktalk] SUV's! Grammar! What the Hell! > > > Hi, > > As I took my CR7 out of the garage and went with it into town, I > had to hit > that BX-2, who was planning to put his TDK-D C120 in front of me store! > > Being a genuine 'That's MX-90' Cassette I normally refer to those > TDK-D's as > P*** in the CR-4. If they want to play a cassette properly why do > they use a > BX125 and not an ZX670? I opened my 600, gave him a smash with my 550 and > TriTracered my 700 into his TDK-ED. > > Luckely there was a Cassette-recorder 1, who stumbled over my 582 > and my 580. > > I put my 202 in reverse and ran off on my 480Z, > > 480 > > bart, PS I do own all these Nakamichi's. > > Quoting Colin Marsh : > > > > > First I must ask you to excuse my grammar, I am a common man, > I come from > > the East End of London England and my degree is only in > engineering! so I > > know my place guv! > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From dgb100 at psulias.psu.edu Thu Jan 6 17:32:57 2005 From: dgb100 at psulias.psu.edu (Derrick Beckner) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:32:57 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Quantegy - Last Manufacturer of Pro Analog Audio Ta pe Closes Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20050106112907.01951828@psulias.psu.edu> Not quite. Companies are still producing pre-recorded tapes. I just bought Moondance, Kind of Blue, Allman Bros GH and some other new tape for a grand total of $20.01, including taxes. You can still order cassettes through Sony, usually for 2/3 or less than a CD. I think there are still a lot of people who only have tape decks in their cars, and no way or inclination to record CDs to tapes. Actually I hear analog recording is making a comeback in the "biz". At 03:53 AM 1/6/2005, you wrote: >That's a bit sad, I guess you are right Stan about the tape format >becoming defunct. > > This is Tom "snif", signing off. >-----Original Message----- >From: Stan Targowski [mailto:stan.targowski at comcast.net] >Sent: Thursday, 6 January 2005 1:00 PM >To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >Subject: [naktalk] Quantegy - Last Manufacturer of Pro Analog Audio Tape >Closes > >Looks like the audio tape format is indeed becoming defunct ... >http://slashdot.org/articles/05/01/06/004226.shtml?tid=141&tid=188&tid=1 > >What are the cassettes that are still in production now around the world? > >- TDK D >- Maxell UR, XLII >- Fuji Z-II > >any others? > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= Derrick Beckner Mapping Specialist Map Library Supervisor Penn State University 1 Paterno Library University Park, PA 16802 dgb100 at psulias.psu.edu http://www.libraries.psu.edu/maps/ 814-863-5753 Boston Red Sox, 2004 World Champions Yes, you read that right! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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RE: Correct talk on naktalk (Doug Locke) > > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On >Behalf Of Fred Lifton > Sent: 04 January 2005 19:41 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] Correct talk on naktalk > > > Alright, as a former composition teacher and license holding doctor of >english (Ph.D Duke 1995), I can't help but jump in to the OT fray here. >English is "correct" when the meaning intended by the speaker is the meaning >understood by the listener given the context of the utterance. Here's how I >used to put it to my composition students: > > You are driving through rural Alabama on a hot day. Up ahead you spot >a dilapidated roadside tavern with 20 Harleys parked out front. You enter, >perceiving in the gloom a large number of hairy, leather-clad bikers. You >saunter up to the bar to order from the 350lb bartender, a sweaty pin-headed >fellow with straw still adhering to the back of his red, sunburned neck. >Which of these phrases is the correct one? > 1. "Sir, may I purchase a Budweiser." > 2. "Gimme a Bud." > > Most students would usually pick sentence one as being "correct". >Those students are wrong. In that context, that phrase is likelier to get >you an ass-kicking than it is get you a beer. The second sentence is >"correct"; considered in context it's better English than the first. > From dgb100 at psulias.psu.edu Thu Jan 6 17:44:35 2005 From: dgb100 at psulias.psu.edu (Derrick Beckner) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:44:35 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Refurbished deck prices In-Reply-To: References: <6.1.2.0.0.20050105112748.0196d178@psulias.psu.edu> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20050106113933.01b4dd88@psulias.psu.edu> Some of the prices asked for refurbished Naks is insane. ES Labs has a CR7 for $2000, a ZX9 for $1200, a 700ZXL for $2500! An MR-1 for $1000. A place called Edumpster has a dragon selling for $2800 I believe. Is one year warranty really worth a %300-%500 increase over Ebay prices? From hgroppa at ciudad.com.ar Thu Jan 6 17:46:36 2005 From: hgroppa at ciudad.com.ar (Horacio Groppa) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 13:46:36 -0300 Subject: [naktalk] help References: <200501061512.j06FCcHb009297@zebra.naks.com> Message-ID: <0d7301c4f40f$50be6bc0$685a2ac8@thiny> help From ti at amb.org Thu Jan 6 22:19:33 2005 From: ti at amb.org (Ti Kan) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 13:19:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] Got my "new" CR-7A! Message-ID: <20050106211933.5DB6ED584@smtp.amb.org> I just received my "new" CR-7A today and it's beautiful. The previous owner obviously took great care of it. Just a little wipe and it looks brand new. I cleaned and de-mag'ed the heads, and played some tapes on it. Sounds wonderful. Along with my Dragon, now I have two of the best. Very happy camper here. -Ti -- Ti Kan http://www.amb.org/ti Vorsprung durch Technik From timbarrett at cox.net Thu Jan 6 22:40:34 2005 From: timbarrett at cox.net (Tim Barrett) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 16:40:34 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Nak parts Message-ID: <41DDB052.4040302@cox.net> There's an Ebay seller in Istanbul advertising some uncommon Nak items, including a NEW IN BOX T-100 analyzer. He also has a plastic cover for the 600 series, you 600 owners out there. There are a few complete Sankyo transports, heads and pinch rollers, and a handful of alignment fixtures. I suppose you have to be comfortable with the idea of dealing with an international seller on Ebay, which I have yet to do. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZoldiesrecordsQ2etrQQsorecordsperpageZ50QQsorecordstoskipZ0QQsosortpropertyZ1 From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Thu Jan 6 23:14:34 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 22:14:34 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Got my "new" CR-7A! In-Reply-To: <20050106211933.5DB6ED584@smtp.amb.org> Message-ID: <000501c4f43d$1a956fc0$76c74c51@oemcomputer> Ti Ask Wouter very nicely if he'll show you a picture of the internals of his CR-7 and consider copying the "Transtec" modification. You'll be very surprised at how good it is ... Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of Ti Kan > Sent: 06 January 2005 21:20 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] Got my "new" CR-7A! > > > I just received my "new" CR-7A today and it's beautiful. The previous > owner obviously took great care of it. Just a little wipe and it looks > brand new. I cleaned and de-mag'ed the heads, and played some > tapes on it. > Sounds wonderful. > > Along with my Dragon, now I have two of the best. Very happy camper here. > > -Ti > -- > Ti Kan > http://www.amb.org/ti > Vorsprung durch Technik > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Thu Jan 6 23:14:36 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 22:14:36 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Nak parts In-Reply-To: <41DDB052.4040302@cox.net> Message-ID: <000601c4f43d$1b880d20$76c74c51@oemcomputer> Never dealt with anyone from Turkey on eBay but I'd not imagine it'd be any more risky than almost anywhere else. In almost 100 transactions I've only been sold a puppy once. Just be happy the seller has a good track record and no shades! Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of Tim Barrett > Sent: 06 January 2005 21:41 > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: [naktalk] Nak parts > > > There's an Ebay seller in Istanbul advertising some uncommon Nak items, > including a NEW IN BOX T-100 analyzer. He also has a plastic cover for > the 600 series, you 600 owners out there. There are a few complete > Sankyo transports, heads and pinch rollers, and a handful of alignment > fixtures. I suppose you have to be comfortable with the idea of dealing > with an international seller on Ebay, which I have yet to do. > > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZoldiesrecordsQ2etrQQsorecordsperp > ageZ50QQsorecordstoskipZ0QQsosortpropertyZ1 > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Thu Jan 6 23:23:34 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 22:23:34 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Enough... and Sugar coating In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000901c4f43e$5c2b2e60$76c74c51@oemcomputer> Come on, Steve, don't take this so seriously - getting a life, having fun, is what the humour and side talk is all about. We adore our Naks but we're not obsessively focussed on them. Just a bit of light relief is needed sometimes, and who best to share that with than your mates? The majority of the posts ARE about Naks - count them over a year and let the stats speak for themselves. But when you stray off topic ... make sure you get in a reference to Nakamichi ... Which reminds me ... When my ZX-9 came back from B&W it looked like they'd T-cut and waxed the body work! Like it was new!! How you you all keep your Nak exteriors looking pristine or do you, like me, simply give them a wipe over with a damp cloth every now and then? Gra' -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Steve Ember Sent: 06 January 2005 18:56 To: Naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Enough... Folks: Kindly remove me from the list. Don't know if it's an after-holidays phenomenon or what, but there is just too much wading through postings that have devolved into one-upsmanship in verbal diarhhea...SUV-bashing, relating private parts to number of Naks... Holy Crow--Can't we get a life here? Stay focussed on USEFUL information? Just too many damned e-mails to open...hoping for solid data about our favorite machines. As I recall, that is why I signed on during the summer. I recall there being some admonition some months ago about restricting posts to Nakamichi matters. Have the inmates taken over the asylum??? Pity. Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ti at amb.org Fri Jan 7 00:15:15 2005 From: ti at amb.org (Ti Kan) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 15:15:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] Got my "new" CR-7A! In-Reply-To: <000501c4f43d$1a956fc0$76c74c51@oemcomputer> from "Nelson" at Jan 06, 2005 10:14:34 PM Message-ID: <20050106231515.72F8A17DCA@smtp.amb.org> Nelson writes: > Ask Wouter very nicely if he'll show you a picture of the internals of his > CR-7 and consider copying the "Transtec" modification. You'll be very > surprised at how good it is ... Interesting, what is entailed in this mod? Also, I just noticed by looking at the photos from the San Francisco bay area marathon tape meet, that the CR-7A we used to record the master has a vented opening "grille" at the left rear of top cover. Mine does not have such a vent, however it has venting on the left side. Was this a running change in production? My CR-7A is an early example, build date is first quarter of 1985, but it looks pristine. -Ti -- Ti Kan http://www.amb.org/ti Vorsprung durch Technik From lists at richardhess.com Fri Jan 7 00:22:13 2005 From: lists at richardhess.com (Richard L. Hess) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 18:22:13 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Quantegy - Last Manufacturer of Pro Analog Audio Ta pe Closes In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20050106112907.01951828@psulias.psu.edu> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20050106181837.051b5040@127.0.0.1> At 11:32 AM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote: >Not quite. Companies are still producing pre-recorded tapes. I just >bought Moondance, Kind of Blue, Allman Bros GH and some other new tape for >a grand total of $20.01, including taxes. You can still order cassettes >through Sony, usually for 2/3 or less than a CD. I think there are still >a lot of people who only have tape decks in their cars, and no way or >inclination to record CDs to tapes. Please note the subject: PRO Audio tape We're referring to the stuff that recording studios use. Quantegy was the last producer of premium quality 1/4, 1/2, 1, and 2-inch audio tape for professional applications. There is one Indian and one Hong Kong supplier of utility-grade 1/4-inch tape and that's it to the best of my knowledge. 3M and Ampex both sold their tape businesses to Quantegy. Maxell quite making reel tapes (and apparently has stopped making the high-end cassettes as well), EMTEC (which was BASF) went last year. Zonal went several years ago. Audiopak/Capitol went a few years before that. Gone unless Quantegy comes back which is still a possibility. Cheers, Richard From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Fri Jan 7 00:30:51 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 23:30:51 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Got my "new" CR-7A! In-Reply-To: <20050106231515.72F8A17DCA@smtp.amb.org> Message-ID: <001301c4f447$c26b8c20$76c74c51@oemcomputer> Not being techie, I've really no idea what the modification entails, but it was done by Transtec to my ZX-9. I seem to recall Wouter showed some photos of it once and I think Ron (no longer with NakList) identified what it was. Vents? I don't recall seeing that on my CR7A. I don't have it any more to check. Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of Ti Kan > Sent: 06 January 2005 23:15 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Got my "new" CR-7A! > > > Nelson writes: > > Ask Wouter very nicely if he'll show you a picture of the > internals of his > > CR-7 and consider copying the "Transtec" modification. You'll be very > > surprised at how good it is ... > > Interesting, what is entailed in this mod? > > Also, I just noticed by looking at the photos from the San Francisco bay > area marathon tape meet, that the CR-7A we used to record the master has > a vented opening "grille" at the left rear of top cover. Mine does not > have such a vent, however it has venting on the left side. Was this > a running change in production? My CR-7A is an early example, build date > is first quarter of 1985, but it looks pristine. > > -Ti > -- > Ti Kan > http://www.amb.org/ti > Vorsprung durch Technik > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From kjbleus at charter.net Fri Jan 7 01:34:51 2005 From: kjbleus at charter.net (KJ Bleus) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 18:34:51 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Re: CassetteForum eGroup Message-ID: <001501c4f450$b8860b50$6401a8c0@MOHICANL0O3DH6> Over the holidays, dabbling with my stacks of cassette treasures, I bubbled up ( hey, hey, you know after drinking a bottle of Italian Spumonte on New Years Eve with family friends ) with the idea of starting an egroup focusing on collecting and using classic cassettes. Here's what I came up with...... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CassetteForum/ I've been reading over NakTalk digests periodically during the last few weeks ( at times with exceptional glee :-}} ), and have observed a fair amount of discussion about cassette types, uses, which are best, et cetera. Well, if any of you NakTalkers are interested in more detailed info sharing and discussion in this particular area of our favorite audio leisure past time, consider joining the few Nakkers that are already members of the CassetteForum. My plans are to build an archive on that eGroup website which will hold articles, photo images, and anything else valuable that membership wishes to post for sharing. Let me know if you have something useful to contribute. All for now, I'm listening to a remastered Sonny Rollins album, "Tenor Madness", transposed from compact disc to ZX-C cassette, record and playback on the ZX-7 deck. As the snow continues to float down upon the MadCity....... Best regards, Bleus de Nakker Madison, Wisc USA Lat 43o04'N, Long 89o24'W Psssst.... If you want to look-up your geographic location in latitude and longitude coordinates, have a try at using the World Atlas interface: http://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/imageg.htm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lists at richardhess.com Fri Jan 7 01:28:53 2005 From: lists at richardhess.com (Richard L. Hess) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 19:28:53 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Nak parts In-Reply-To: <41DDB052.4040302@cox.net> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20050106192356.07ac3d30@127.0.0.1> When I lived in Los Angeles earlier this year I bought three gauges from Guran and you can see my positive feedback ( rlhess ) on 20040428 and 20040310 in the seller's feedback. It was nervous-making, but he delivered the goods. His prices appear to be even higher, now, but what the heck, if you need it, you need it. Cheers, Richard At 04:40 PM 1/6/2005 -0500, Tim Barrett wrote: >There's an Ebay seller in Istanbul advertising some uncommon Nak items, >including a NEW IN BOX T-100 analyzer. He also has a plastic cover for >the 600 series, you 600 owners out there. There are a few complete Sankyo >transports, heads and pinch rollers, and a handful of alignment >fixtures. I suppose you have to be comfortable with the idea of dealing >with an international seller on Ebay, which I have yet to do. > >http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZoldiesrecordsQ2etrQQsorecordsperpageZ50QQsorecordstoskipZ0QQsosortpropertyZ1 From Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Fri Jan 7 01:44:17 2005 From: Tom_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:44:17 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Re: CassetteForum eGroup Message-ID: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D0531D7E6@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Hey Bleus, hope you are well. If you need photos I'd be more than happy scan any tape you are after. I have a huge collection of tapes including Nakamichi ZX and SX (two SX unopened). I'd be happy to oblige. Regards, Tom. -----Original Message----- From: KJ Bleus [mailto:kjbleus at charter.net] Sent: Friday, 7 January 2005 11:35 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Re: CassetteForum eGroup Over the holidays, dabbling with my stacks of cassette treasures, I bubbled up ( hey, hey, you know after drinking a bottle of Italian Spumonte on New Years Eve with family friends ) with the idea of starting an egroup focusing on collecting and using classic cassettes. Here's what I came up with...... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CassetteForum/ I've been reading over NakTalk digests periodically during the last few weeks ( at times with exceptional glee :-}} ), and have observed a fair amount of discussion about cassette types, uses, which are best, et cetera. Well, if any of you NakTalkers are interested in more detailed info sharing and discussion in this particular area of our favorite audio leisure past time, consider joining the few Nakkers that are already members of the CassetteForum. My plans are to build an archive on that eGroup website which will hold articles, photo images, and anything else valuable that membership wishes to post for sharing. Let me know if you have something useful to contribute. All for now, I'm listening to a remastered Sonny Rollins album, "Tenor Madness", transposed from compact disc to ZX-C cassette, record and playback on the ZX-7 deck. As the snow continues to float down upon the MadCity....... Best regards, Bleus de Nakker Madison, Wisc USA Lat 43o04'N, Long 89o24'W Psssst.... 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We adore our Naks but we're not obsessively focussed on them. Just a bit of light relief is needed sometimes, and who best to share that with than your mates? The majority of the posts ARE about Naks - count them over a year and let the stats speak for themselves. But when you stray off topic ... make sure you get in a reference to Nakamichi ... Which reminds me ... When my ZX-9 came back from B&W it looked like they'd T-cut and waxed the body work! Like it was new!! How you you all keep your Nak exteriors looking pristine or do you, like me, simply give them a wipe over with a damp cloth every now and then? Gra' -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Steve Ember Sent: 06 January 2005 18:56 To: Naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Enough... Folks: Kindly remove me from the list. Don't know if it's an after-holidays phenomenon or what, but there is just too much wading through postings that have devolved into one-upsmanship in verbal diarhhea...SUV-bashing, relating private parts to number of Naks... Holy Crow--Can't we get a life here? Stay focussed on USEFUL information? Just too many damned e-mails to open...hoping for solid data about our favorite machines. As I recall, that is why I signed on during the summer. I recall there being some admonition some months ago about restricting posts to Nakamichi matters. Have the inmates taken over the asylum??? Pity. Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rjkent at comcast.net Fri Jan 7 02:51:24 2005 From: rjkent at comcast.net (rjkent at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 17:51:24 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] CR-7 Modifications Message-ID: <000b01c4f45b$654e0630$6401a8c0@robertbwpur6ye> Hi Ti, Gra', My CR-7A (used for the SF Session Marathon Master Tape) was produced the 4th Qtr of 1986 (SN 08102)....as much as two years after yours. It has the vent perforations on the top as you mentioned, but none on the side. >From an earlier series of posts, I surmised that an EQ modification (IEC1 to IEC2) can be done on decks with serial numbers before approximately 08677. I had ESL do their own equalization modification when they overhauled my unit. They replaced the orange caps and installed the gear reel hub drive at the same time. Is the 'Transtec Mod." an EQ mod? Fuad has some good information on the circuit differences between an early and late CR-7, but I didn't save them since mine had already been modified. Robert Kent Ti Kan wrote: Interesting, what is entailed in this mod? Also, I just noticed by looking at the photos from the San Francisco bay area marathon tape meet, that the CR-7A we used to record the master has a vented opening "grille" at the left rear of top cover. Mine does not have such a vent, however it has venting on the left side. Was this a running change in production? My CR-7A is an early example, build date is first quarter of 1985, but it looks pristine. -Ti -- Ti Kan http://www.amb.org/ti Vorsprung durch Technik Ti Ask Wouter very nicely if he'll show you a picture of the internals of his CR-7 and consider copying the "Transtec" modification. You'll be very surprised at how good it is ... Gra' -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rjkent at comcast.net Fri Jan 7 03:00:43 2005 From: rjkent at comcast.net (rjkent at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 18:00:43 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Turkish Nakamichi Ebayer Message-ID: <001501c4f45c$b28f4980$6401a8c0@robertbwpur6ye> Hi Tim, I bid on and won some Telarc and Sheffield Reference tapes from him (oldiesrecs at ttnet.net.tr). It was not wise, but I sent him cash by Registered Mail to avoid the hastle of a wire transfer. Long story short.....he apparently never recieved the money ($120), and I never received my tapes. I'm not blaming him, because I have no way of knowing where the cash ended up, but I would suggest anyone bidding on his items not send cash. Robert Kent Tim wrote: There's an Ebay seller in Istanbul advertising some uncommon Nak items, including a NEW IN BOX T-100 analyzer. He also has a plastic cover for the 600 series, you 600 owners out there. There are a few complete Sankyo transports, heads and pinch rollers, and a handful of alignment fixtures. I suppose you have to be comfortable with the idea of dealing with an international seller on Ebay, which I have yet to do. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From timbarrett at cox.net Fri Jan 7 03:16:05 2005 From: timbarrett at cox.net (Tim Barrett) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 21:16:05 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Turkish Nakamichi Ebayer In-Reply-To: <001501c4f45c$b28f4980$6401a8c0@robertbwpur6ye> References: <001501c4f45c$b28f4980$6401a8c0@robertbwpur6ye> Message-ID: <41DDF0E5.9080905@cox.net> As much as I'd love to have a T-100, his minimum bid is out of my budget. I'll watch the progress on his stuff, though. rjkent at comcast.net wrote: > Hi Tim, > > I bid on and won some Telarc and Sheffield Reference tapes from him > (oldiesrecs at ttnet.net.tr). It was not wise, but I sent him cash by > Registered Mail to avoid the hastle of a wire transfer. Long story > short.....he apparently never recieved the money ($120), and I never > received my tapes. I'm not blaming him, because I have no way of > knowing where the cash ended up, but I would suggest anyone bidding on > his items not send cash. > > Robert Kent > > Tim wrote: > > There's an Ebay seller in Istanbul advertising some uncommon Nak items, > including a NEW IN BOX T-100 analyzer. He also has a plastic cover for > the 600 series, you 600 owners out there. There are a few complete > Sankyo transports, heads and pinch rollers, and a handful of alignment > fixtures. I suppose you have to be comfortable with the idea of dealing > with an international seller on Ebay, which I have yet to do. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From ti at amb.org Fri Jan 7 04:01:07 2005 From: ti at amb.org (Ti Kan) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 19:01:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] Got my "new" CR-7A! In-Reply-To: <001301c4f447$c26b8c20$76c74c51@oemcomputer> from "Nelson" at Jan 06, 2005 11:30:51 PM Message-ID: <20050107030107.80BC81692E@smtp.amb.org> Nelson writes: > Vents? I don't recall seeing that on my CR7A. I don't have it any more to > check. Here is a pic of Robert's CR-7A with the vent perforations on the top cover: http://www.amb.org/ti/audio/sfnaks/dsc00766.jpg Here are some pics of mine (no vent at the top): http://www.amb.org/ti/audio/cr7a-1.jpg http://www.amb.org/ti/audio/cr7a-2.jpg http://www.amb.org/ti/audio/cr7a-3.jpg http://www.amb.org/ti/audio/cr7a-4.jpg http://www.amb.org/ti/audio/cr7a-5.jpg http://www.amb.org/ti/audio/cr7a-6.jpg -Ti -- Ti Kan http://www.amb.org/ti Vorsprung durch Technik From lists at richardhess.com Fri Jan 7 04:51:48 2005 From: lists at richardhess.com (Richard L. Hess) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 22:51:48 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Turkish Nakamichi Ebayer In-Reply-To: <41DDF0E5.9080905@cox.net> References: <001501c4f45c$b28f4980$6401a8c0@robertbwpur6ye> <41DDF0E5.9080905@cox.net> Message-ID: <1105069908.41de0754be714@www.richardhess.com> I used a Western Union money transfer and he got his money, I got my goods. There was a hassle on my part getting WU to work on my computer, but it finally happened and he was patient. It's not cheap, but I ordered from him twice and was pleased. He even included a nice post card of Turkey in one of the shipments. -- Richard L. Hess http://www.richardhess.com/ Quoting Tim Barrett : > As much as I'd love to have a T-100, his minimum bid is out of my > budget. I'll watch the progress on his stuff, though. > > rjkent at comcast.net wrote: > > > Hi Tim, > > > > I bid on and won some Telarc and Sheffield Reference tapes from him > > (oldiesrecs at ttnet.net.tr). It was not wise, but I sent him cash by > > Registered Mail to avoid the hastle of a wire transfer. Long story > > short.....he apparently never recieved the money ($120), and I never > > received my tapes. I'm not blaming him, because I have no way of > > knowing where the cash ended up, but I would suggest anyone bidding on > > his items not send cash. > > > > Robert Kent > > > > Tim wrote: > > > > There's an Ebay seller in Istanbul advertising some uncommon Nak items, > > including a NEW IN BOX T-100 analyzer. He also has a plastic cover for > > the 600 series, you 600 owners out there. There are a few complete > > Sankyo transports, heads and pinch rollers, and a handful of alignment > > fixtures. I suppose you have to be comfortable with the idea of dealing > > with an international seller on Ebay, which I have yet to do. > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From alexcozac at hotmail.com Fri Jan 7 05:48:38 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 06:48:38 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Re: CassetteForum eGroup In-Reply-To: <8D011699C220D411A266009027AF327D0531D7E6@mis-exchange.neca.nec.com.au> Message-ID: Shalom Bleus & Tom! I also make digit photos ultra sharp ones af all my cassette collection! Only do not hesitate to ask! ALEX! >From: Thomas Siomopoulos >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: CassetteForum eGroup >Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:44:17 +1100 > >Hey Bleus, hope you are well. If you need photos I'd be more than happy >scan >any tape you are after. I have a huge collection of tapes including >Nakamichi ZX and SX (two SX unopened). I'd be happy to oblige. > > Regards, > > Tom. > >-----Original Message----- >From: KJ Bleus [mailto:kjbleus at charter.net] >Sent: Friday, 7 January 2005 11:35 >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: [naktalk] Re: CassetteForum eGroup > > >Over the holidays, dabbling with my stacks of cassette treasures, I bubbled >up ( hey, hey, you know after drinking a bottle of Italian Spumonte on New >Years Eve with family friends ) with the idea of starting an egroup >focusing >on collecting and using classic cassettes. > >Here's what I came up with...... > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CassetteForum/ > > >I've been reading over NakTalk digests periodically during the last few >weeks ( at times with exceptional glee :-}} ), and have observed a fair >amount of discussion about cassette types, uses, which are best, et cetera. >Well, if any of you NakTalkers are interested in more detailed info sharing >and discussion in this particular area of our favorite audio leisure past >time, consider joining the few Nakkers that are already members of the >CassetteForum. > >My plans are to build an archive on that eGroup website which will hold >articles, photo images, and anything else valuable that membership wishes >to >post for sharing. Let me know if you have something useful to contribute. >All for now, I'm listening to a remastered Sonny Rollins album, "Tenor >Madness", transposed from compact disc to ZX-C cassette, record and >playback >on the ZX-7 deck. > >As the snow continues to float down upon the MadCity....... > >Best regards, > >Bleus de Nakker >Madison, Wisc USA >Lat 43o04'N, Long 89o24'W > > >Psssst.... >If you want to look-up your geographic location in latitude and >longitude coordinates, have a try at using the World Atlas interface: > > >http://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/imageg.htm > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From alexcozac at hotmail.com Fri Jan 7 05:58:12 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 06:58:12 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Nak parts In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050106192356.07ac3d30@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: Who; need some of those items...PAY...for it!!!! ALEX! >From: "Richard L. Hess" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: timbarrett at cox.net, Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nak parts >Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 19:28:53 -0500 > >When I lived in Los Angeles earlier this year I bought three gauges from >Guran and you can see my positive feedback ( rlhess ) on 20040428 and >20040310 in the seller's feedback. It was nervous-making, but he delivered >the goods. His prices appear to be even higher, now, but what the heck, if >you need it, you need it. > >Cheers, > >Richard > >At 04:40 PM 1/6/2005 -0500, Tim Barrett wrote: >>There's an Ebay seller in Istanbul advertising some uncommon Nak items, >>including a NEW IN BOX T-100 analyzer. He also has a plastic cover for >>the 600 series, you 600 owners out there. There are a few complete Sankyo >>transports, heads and pinch rollers, and a handful of alignment fixtures. >>I suppose you have to be comfortable with the idea of dealing with an >>international seller on Ebay, which I have yet to do. >> >>http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZoldiesrecordsQ2etrQQsorecordsperpageZ50QQsorecordstoskipZ0QQsosortpropertyZ1 > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.com/ From rjkent at comcast.net Fri Jan 7 06:13:56 2005 From: rjkent at comcast.net (rjkent at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 21:13:56 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] CR-7 Pics Message-ID: <009c01c4f477$b0464fa0$6401a8c0@robertbwpur6ye> Hey Ti, I noticed in your photos that your Record button light looks kind of pink instead of red.....is that correct? Mine is red and matches the Rec Mute and Fader button lights exactly. Otherwise it looks to be in really fine condition....congratulations! By the way, that low res photo of my CR-7 from the SF Nak Marathon gathering makes it look beat up.....it is actually in pristine condition. Who's camera was that? Robert Kent -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wdrewes at iafrica.com Fri Jan 7 06:07:37 2005 From: wdrewes at iafrica.com (WME Drewes) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 07:07:37 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Nak parts References: <41DDB052.4040302@cox.net> Message-ID: <001001c4f476$cf6c0e20$d1ccfea9@drewescomp> I have bought from him on 4 occassions through eBay and have not been let down yet.His english leaves a bit to be desired and is a bit slow but everything arrived in South Africa OK. Walter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Barrett" To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:40 PM Subject: [naktalk] Nak parts > There's an Ebay seller in Istanbul advertising some uncommon Nak items, > including a NEW IN BOX T-100 analyzer. He also has a plastic cover for > the 600 series, you 600 owners out there. There are a few complete > Sankyo transports, heads and pinch rollers, and a handful of alignment > fixtures. I suppose you have to be comfortable with the idea of dealing > with an international seller on Ebay, which I have yet to do. > > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZoldiesrecordsQ2etrQQsorecordsperpageZ50QQso recordstoskipZ0QQsosortpropertyZ1 > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From ti at amb.org Fri Jan 7 06:38:13 2005 From: ti at amb.org (Ti Kan) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 21:38:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] CR-7 Pics In-Reply-To: <009c01c4f477$b0464fa0$6401a8c0@robertbwpur6ye> from "rjkent@comcast.net" at Jan 06, 2005 09:13:56 PM Message-ID: <20050107053813.2162E13495@smtp.amb.org> rjkent at comcast.net writes: > I noticed in your photos that your Record button light looks kind of = > pink instead of red.....is that correct? Mine is red and matches the = > Rec Mute and Fader button lights exactly. Otherwise it looks to be in = > really fine condition....congratulations! It's red, although by eye that light is just slightly dimmer than the Rec Mute and Fader button lights. Somehow the camera picked up a shade of pink. Weird. I opened up the top cover to have a look, and it's as clean inside as it is outside. The large top board is the logic PCB, and I didn't notice any orange caps on there (I did see some film caps that are red in color). Are there supposed to be any on this board? I didn't check the main board beneath it because that would require unscrewing the logic board and disconnecting a bunch of wires. This particular deck has a "Refurbished by Nakamichi" sticker on the back, and the carton that it came in has a prior shipping label addressed from Nakamichi USA in Torrance, CA. I wonder perhaps Nakamichi has already done some tweaking with this unit. > By the way, that low res photo of my CR-7 from the SF Nak Marathon = > gathering makes it look beat up.....it is actually in pristine = > condition. Who's camera was that? It was my camera, I think the flash accentuated the dust particles and reflections from the edges, etc., to make it look that way. The pics I took of my new CR-7A was done with the same camera, albeit without flash, using indoor lighting and then I applied some gamma correction to the images. BTW, as part of this CR-7A purchase I also got a TD-700 car deck. Not sure what I'm going to do with it yet, because I don't need another car stereo. Thinking of perhaps powering it with a 12VDC power supply and use it as a mini stereo on my workbench... :) -Ti -- Ti Kan http://www.amb.org/ti Vorsprung durch Technik From kjbleus at charter.net Fri Jan 7 06:42:08 2005 From: kjbleus at charter.net (KJ Bleus) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 23:42:08 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Re: CassetteForum eGroup Message-ID: <001001c4f47b$a726f740$6401a8c0@MOHICANL0O3DH6> Tom, good buddy from western Australia!!! Do you have any of those Sony Metal Master or Super Metal Master cassettes? How about TDK MA-R's or SA-XG's?? Maxell Metal Vertex??? Some of the rarities, truly elite grade cassettes would be excellent starters for the new photo image gallery. Better yet, how about an array of your favs, and then we'll start a collage of photo images from various collectors/users from around the world. Let's get something going, others are welcome to contribute. Contact me directly at: kjbleus at lycos.com Regards, Bleus ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:44:17 +1100 From: Thomas Siomopoulos Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: CassetteForum eGroup To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" Hey Bleus, hope you are well. If you need photos I'd be more than happy scan any tape you are after. I have a huge collection of tapes including Nakamichi ZX and SX (two SX unopened). I'd be happy to oblige. Regards, Tom. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alexcozac at hotmail.com Fri Jan 7 08:11:32 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 09:11:32 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Got my "new" CR-7A! Message-ID: Amazing Ti! Your deck differ from my Dragon in green display instead my Dragon's red one? I was 100% sure that all the Nak machines use the same "RED" color display? or I'm wrong? Please correct me! Nice photos!!! ALEX! >From: ti at amb.org (Ti Kan) >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Got my "new" CR-7A! >Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 19:01:07 -0800 (PST) > >Nelson writes: > > Vents? I don't recall seeing that on my CR7A. I don't have it any more >to > > check. > >Here is a pic of Robert's CR-7A with the vent perforations on the top >cover: > http://www.amb.org/ti/audio/sfnaks/dsc00766.jpg > >Here are some pics of mine (no vent at the top): > http://www.amb.org/ti/audio/cr7a-1.jpg > http://www.amb.org/ti/audio/cr7a-2.jpg > http://www.amb.org/ti/audio/cr7a-3.jpg > http://www.amb.org/ti/audio/cr7a-4.jpg > http://www.amb.org/ti/audio/cr7a-5.jpg > http://www.amb.org/ti/audio/cr7a-6.jpg > >-Ti >-- >Ti Kan >http://www.amb.org/ti >Vorsprung durch Technik > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From ti at amb.org Fri Jan 7 08:32:59 2005 From: ti at amb.org (Ti Kan) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 23:32:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] Got my "new" CR-7A! In-Reply-To: from "Alex Cozac" at Jan 07, 2005 09:11:32 AM Message-ID: <20050107073259.4304816923@smtp.amb.org> Alex Cozac writes: > Amazing Ti! > > Your deck differ from my Dragon in green display instead my Dragon's red > one? I was 100% sure that all the Nak machines use the same "RED" color > display? or I'm wrong? Please correct me! > > Nice photos!!! > > ALEX! The newer CR series Naks has this yellow-amber fluorescent display instead of the older models with the red LEDs. -Ti -- Ti Kan http://www.amb.org/ti Vorsprung durch Technik From alexcozac at hotmail.com Fri Jan 7 08:58:33 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 09:58:33 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Got my "new" CR-7A! Message-ID: God will Bless you always!!! Thanks for your information! ALEX! >From: ti at amb.org (Ti Kan) >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Got my "new" CR-7A! >Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 23:32:59 -0800 (PST) > >Alex Cozac writes: > > Amazing Ti! > > > > Your deck differ from my Dragon in green display instead my Dragon's red > > one? I was 100% sure that all the Nak machines use the same "RED" color > > display? or I'm wrong? Please correct me! > > > > Nice photos!!! > > > > ALEX! > >The newer CR series Naks has this yellow-amber fluorescent display >instead of the older models with the red LEDs. > >-Ti >-- >Ti Kan >http://www.amb.org/ti >Vorsprung durch Technik > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From flifton at mac.com Thu Jan 6 22:35:24 2005 From: flifton at mac.com (Fred Lifton) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 13:35:24 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 23, Issue 34 In-Reply-To: <200501062107.j06L7CHZ010627@zebra.naks.com> References: <200501062107.j06L7CHZ010627@zebra.naks.com> Message-ID: How about: socks are itchy. As in: "pop that in yer socksareitchy and there you are mate, hi-bloody-fi" cheers, Fred (ex Londoner). > From: Nelson > Date: January 6, 2005 10:17:06 AM PST > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: RE: [naktalk] SUV's! Grammar! What the Hell! > Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > Oh Gawd!  Neva mind the bleedin' sweaty 350lb pin head, this one's a > bleedin' Cockney geeza!!    So, wot's Cockney rhymin' slang for > Nakamichi? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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References: <001301c4f447$c26b8c20$76c74c51@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <03a301c4f454$8ad06580$c801a8c0@geoffwin2k> From: "Nelson" > Not being techie, I've really no idea what the modification entails, but it > was done by Transtec to my ZX-9. I seem to recall Wouter showed some photos > of it once and I think Ron (no longer with NakList) identified what it was. > > Vents? I don't recall seeing that on my CR7A. I don't have it any more to > check. The newer CR-7A's have the extra vents on the top, while the older ones don't. Also, from list member Ron: > The equalization upgrade was incorporated after > S/N A130-08677, during the last quarter of 1985. CR-7 after serial # A130-11000 is supposedly the prefered serial number range. -- Geoffrey Reynolds From neillipes628 at hotmail.com Fri Jan 7 03:15:55 2005 From: neillipes628 at hotmail.com (neil lipes) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 21:15:55 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Got my "new" CR-7A! In-Reply-To: <20050106211933.5DB6ED584@smtp.amb.org> Message-ID: My >From: ti at amb.org (Ti Kan) >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: [naktalk] Got my "new" CR-7A! >Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 13:19:33 -0800 (PST) > >I just received my "new" CR-7A today and it's beautiful. The previous >owner obviously took great care of it. Just a little wipe and it looks >brand new. I cleaned and de-mag'ed the heads, and played some tapes on it. >Sounds wonderful. > >Along with my Dragon, now I have two of the best. Very happy camper here. > >-Ti >-- >Ti Kan >http://www.amb.org/ti >Vorsprung durch Technik > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee� Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From neillipes628 at hotmail.com Fri Jan 7 03:15:03 2005 From: neillipes628 at hotmail.com (neil lipes) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 21:15:03 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Refurbished deck prices In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20050106113933.01b4dd88@psulias.psu.edu> Message-ID: Hey that is Donald Trump cash! >From: Derrick Beckner >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >Subject: [naktalk] Refurbished deck prices >Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:44:35 -0500 > > > >Some of the prices asked for refurbished Naks is insane. >ES Labs has a CR7 for $2000, a ZX9 for $1200, a 700ZXL for $2500! An MR-1 >for $1000. >A place called Edumpster has a dragon selling for $2800 I believe. >Is one year warranty really worth a %300-%500 increase over Ebay prices? > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From alex.cozac at gmail.com Fri Jan 7 05:55:57 2005 From: alex.cozac at gmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 06:55:57 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] eBay item 5742718369 (Ends Jan-13-05 12:17:45 PST) - NAKAMICHI RECORD CLOTH NEW Message-ID: <000501c4f475$3017e5c0$cd8410ac@cozac> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=64598&item=5742718369&rd=1 Folks! Really a JOKE!!!! I have 4 of them like him!!!! Factory sealed!!! $:24.00 for a cloth!!!! Amazing!!!!! ALEX! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doug at whiteapple.u-net.com Fri Jan 7 02:11:54 2005 From: doug at whiteapple.u-net.com (Doug Locke) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 01:11:54 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] SUV's! Grammar! What the Hell! In-Reply-To: <003601c4f41b$eeab13e0$9b944c51@oemcomputer> Message-ID: Gathered from Colin's previous postings, perhaps the rhyming slang for Nakamichi should be "dicky", big or small? Doug. -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Nelson Sent: 06 January 2005 18:17 To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: RE: [naktalk] SUV's! Grammar! What the Hell! Oh Gawd! Neva mind the bleedin' sweaty 350lb pin head, this one's a bleedin' Cockney geeza!! Watcha Colin!! I may now be an 'onorary Scouser these days but I'm originally from Souf of the Riva, mate! The restavya may not understand wot I'm sayin' but Colin wiwl cos 'ees from Lundun. Anyways, this is fonetic spellin' in a Souf Lundun axcent, innit. Now then, me old China. Luv ya postin', mate an' I agree wiv a lot of it. But keep y'blinkin' wig on ' cos we're only 'aving a bit of fun an' ribbin' each uvva! So, wot's Cockney rhymin' slang for Nakamichi? -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Colin Marsh Sent: 06 January 2005 13:11 To: naktalk Subject: [naktalk] SUV's! Grammar! What the Hell! Oh, G First I must ask you to excuse my grammar, I am a common man, I come from the East End of London England and my degree is only in engineering! so I know my place guv! Nearly every posting in the last week as been on the subjects of Grammar or SUV's and the No. of Dragons you own!. What is going on? lets finish with all this crap! First lets look at SUV's. 4 + 4's and the like. come on you guys, you all know the ONLY reason why you drive them and it's nowt to do with guzzling petrol, running bulls over with you bars, moving heavy goods, protecting yourself from other road users, squashing little children and old ladies or choking the world with your pollution. My grandmother told me that the only reason men drive these monsters is all about the size of their private bits!, you know, Man driving big powerful car = little willie. Woman driving big powerful car = her man has a little willie. I am told that's why there are so many SUV's in the US! Yes its true! I once knew a lovely old lady. who spent her "working" life entertaining gentlemen in Bayswater, London. What she told me about her observations of international willie sizes over the years backs this up! Oh, I drive a 4 + 4, I tow boats the with it that my car wont. The No. of Dragons and CR7's in your spare bedroom possibly has something to do with Penis size as well? Who knows, they say there is nowt as strange as the relationship between men and their machines! Enough said I think. Grammar? What the hell are you guys about! This is the 21st century, things are changing, If I was reading the covering letter for a job application I would realise that that so called "grammatically correct" letter was probably written by somebody else anyway! My best employee, the guy who contributes more to my company than any other (including myself!) cant string 4 words together! so what! I cant imagine nowt so boring that to have a long conversation with somebody who acts like he has "the Shorter Oxford Dictionary" shoved up his ass! Iv'e just finished reading a book by a guy called Clarkson, this guy is passionate about cars and machines and he appears on UK TV all the time. The book has been composed in the same fashion as the man speaks on TV, with passion. So I understand it, it's great! If the book had been edited to make it grammatically correct I would have thrown it aside after the first chapter! American English? so its a bastardised version of the real thing! Colour vs color, who really cares. Your average Englishman doesn't I am sure, Way back in the "Dark ages" of the last century The way you spoke or wrote your language determined your class. In UK at least I believe the reaction to the way we are "Changing " the language is mostly by those who use it to define their "Middle English" status? What a load of bull! Status is now defined by money and nowt else. Will someone out there talk "Nakamichi!" please? after all this is "Naktalk" isn't it? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From flifton at mac.com Thu Jan 6 23:20:38 2005 From: flifton at mac.com (Fred Lifton) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 14:20:38 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Off-topic post about off topic posts In-Reply-To: <200501060827.j068RAHZ007828@zebra.naks.com> References: <200501060827.j068RAHZ007828@zebra.naks.com> Message-ID: <31B5A111-6031-11D9-A7CE-000D93C246E2@mac.com> Hi all, I've really enjoyed the SUV/grammar/language discussion. And I totally agree that it doesn't really really belong on Naktalk (that's why I've been trying, with mixed results, to hold back). So I'd like to again invite anyone who's interested to carry on the conversation on the Naktalkers Music and Politics blog. If you're interested, contact me off-list and I'll give you the info. best, Fred From valman13440 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 6 23:46:28 2005 From: valman13440 at yahoo.com (Keith Hugo) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 14:46:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] TDK SA-X and setting recording levels,what a pain,HELP! Message-ID: <20050106224628.4903.qmail@web40621.mail.yahoo.com> Has anyone else noticed that it is hard to get the recording level right when using TDK SA-X?I know that SA-X is more sensitive tape than Maxell XLII-S but is more sensitive always a better thing?Maxell XLII-S seem's to exibit a tamer attitude with recording levels,with SA-X just when you think everything is set correctly i always get that one note that sends the recording meters off the deep end +10 (Distortion),Maxell seems to stay right were i put them.I do like the sound of SA-X and XLII-S but to me SA-X is a little too sensitive,it's aggravating trying to get the levels right,..Let me know what you think or maybe your observation's..Peace,Keith. My decks are a Akai GX-8 and Nak ZX-7. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From neillipes628 at hotmail.com Fri Jan 7 02:07:18 2005 From: neillipes628 at hotmail.com (neil lipes) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 20:07:18 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] SUV's! Grammar! What the Hell! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Kodaly lives!! >From: S�ndor Istv�n >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Subject: Re: [naktalk] SUV's! Grammar! What the Hell! >Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 17:50:26 +0100 > >Hey, >you have all of those Naks...? :-) >A "nice" story... sometimes I feel to get somehting language-lessons from >you all... bt this story is far too complicated to my >English-capabilities... > >Sorry for being so stupid in English, sometimes I really have to jump some >messages, simply because I do not understand what is that all about. (My >favorite is when formally one(1!) sentence is the all 6-row message, >sometimes I simply do not know where a real sentence begins and where it >ends.) > >Nice to read all your (understandable) messages, but please, do not take >anything TOO seriously, as nobody wants to hurt you, via e-mail it is >nearly >impossible... > >Kind regards, >Istv�n >----- Original Message ----- >From: "bart honhoff" >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 4:50 PM >Subject: Re: [naktalk] SUV's! Grammar! What the Hell! > > > > Hi, > > > > As I took my CR7 out of the garage and went with it into town, I had to >hit > > that BX-2, who was planning to put his TDK-D C120 in front of me store! > > > > Being a genuine 'That's MX-90' Cassette I normally refer to those >TDK-D's >as > > P*** in the CR-4. If they want to play a cassette properly why do they >use >a > > BX125 and not an ZX670? I opened my 600, gave him a smash with my 550 >and > > TriTracered my 700 into his TDK-ED. > > > > Luckely there was a Cassette-recorder 1, who stumbled over my 582 and my >580. > > > > I put my 202 in reverse and ran off on my 480Z, > > > > 480 > > > > bart, PS I do own all these Nakamichi's. > > > > Quoting Colin Marsh : > > > > > > > > First I must ask you to excuse my grammar, I am a common man, I come >from > > > the East End of London England and my degree is only in engineering! >so >I > > > know my place guv! > > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Don�t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From erie at shelbyvilledesign.com Fri Jan 7 02:14:50 2005 From: erie at shelbyvilledesign.com (erie) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 19:14:50 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20050105152354.01bb3f28@psulias.psu.edu> References: <002101c4f340$7a64f630$15eeb3a4@tfcorp.tfn.com> <002f01c4f35f$2ba828e0$2ce34c51@oemcomputer> <6.1.2.0.0.20050105152354.01bb3f28@psulias.psu.edu> Message-ID: <41DDE28A.6@shelbyvilledesign.com> Derrick, I feel the same way about my 4000q and 200 turbo quattro. Nothing like the look on the kids face when a guy in his mid 40's driving a four door family car launches hard and shifts at 8000 rpm a few times....funny I get that same look from the idiots in blazers and broncos floundering in what little snow we get around here, while I smile and drive away with 4 rooster tails of snow coming out from under the car.... erie this message contains no obligatory Nakamichi reference, except the preceeding disclaimer.....so I guess it has a smidge of content... Derrick Beckner wrote: > I have two AWD Subarus, a Forester and a WRX. I will never buy > another every day car that is not AWD. In wet or snowy weather there > is simply no comparison between these and a FWD car. The Forester is > more like a Station Wagon in size and insurance. :) Handles very > well. As for the WRX, let's just say you haven't experienced life > until you've dropped the clutch of a turbo/AWD car at 6000 or so rpm! > I can also take it anywhere a Jeep can go as long as high ground > clearance isn't required. I don't know how people can fight with a > Expiditon or Pick up truck everyday. Those things are like driving > tanks. > > I think the biggest problem on the road today are cell phones. There > is absolutely no reason for a person to be talking on the phone while > driving. None. Yet I see probably 1 of 5 people driving on the > phone. I see people on the phone as they are backing out of their > driveway! What the hell? > > From neillipes628 at hotmail.com Thu Jan 6 22:39:38 2005 From: neillipes628 at hotmail.com (neil lipes) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 16:39:38 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] SUV's! Grammar! What the Hell! Message-ID: When I was on honeymoon with wife in bayswater..(Paddington) I engaged in hot sex.... with my Nakamichi playing in the backround! >From: "Colin Marsh" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: "naktalk" >Subject: [naktalk] SUV's! Grammar! What the Hell! >Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 13:10:55 -0000 > > >First I must ask you to excuse my grammar, I am a common man, I come from >the East End of London England and my degree is only in engineering! so I >know my place guv! > >Nearly every posting in the last week as been on the subjects of Grammar or >SUV's and the No. of Dragons you own!. What is going on? lets finish with >all this crap! > >First lets look at SUV's. 4 + 4's and the like. come on you guys, you all >know the ONLY reason why you drive them and it's nowt to do with guzzling >petrol, running bulls over with you bars, moving heavy goods, protecting >yourself from other road users, squashing little children and old ladies or >choking the world with your pollution. My grandmother told me that the >only reason men drive these monsters is all about the size of their private >bits!, you know, Man driving big powerful car = little willie. Woman >driving big powerful car = her man has a little willie. I am told that's >why there are so many SUV's in the US! Yes its true! I once knew a >lovely >old lady. who spent her "working" life entertaining gentlemen in Bayswater, >London. What she told me about her observations of international willie >sizes over the years backs this up! Oh, I drive a 4 + 4, I tow boats the >with it that my car wont. >The No. of Dragons and CR7's in your spare bedroom possibly has something >to >do with Penis size as well? Who knows, they say there is nowt as strange as >the relationship between men and their machines! Enough said I think. >Grammar? What the hell are you guys about! This is the 21st century, >things are changing, If I was reading the covering letter for a job >application I would realise that that so called "grammatically correct" >letter was probably written by somebody else anyway! My best employee, the >guy who contributes more to my company than any other (including myself!) >cant string 4 words together! so what! I cant imagine nowt so boring that >to have a long conversation with somebody who acts like he has "the Shorter >Oxford Dictionary" shoved up his ass! Iv'e just finished reading a book by >a guy called Clarkson, this guy is passionate about cars and machines and >he >appears on UK TV all the time. The book has been composed in the same >fashion as the man speaks on TV, with passion. So I understand it, it's >great! If the book had been edited to make it grammatically correct I >would >have thrown it aside after the first chapter! American English? so its a >bastardised version of the real thing! Colour vs color, who really cares. >Your average Englishman doesn't I am sure, Way back in the "Dark ages" of >the last century The way you spoke or wrote your language determined your >class. In UK at least I believe the reaction to the way we are "Changing " >the language is mostly by those who use it to define their "Middle English" >status? What a load of bull! Status is now defined by money and nowt >else. > >Will someone out there talk "Nakamichi!" please? after all this is >"Naktalk" isn't it? >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From neillipes628 at hotmail.com Thu Jan 6 22:44:42 2005 From: neillipes628 at hotmail.com (neil lipes) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 16:44:42 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? Message-ID: ED!!! That is what we New Yorkers call out ghetto mobiles....".watch out A-hole I'm gonna pass you now!!!" And I do not give a Sh-- if you are driving that new Caddy...make way!!!!!!!! Long live Mad Max!!!!!!!!! N >From: Edward Noyes >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: timbarrett at cox.net, Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank >cassette? >Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 07:33:47 -0500 > >Really the best car to have in NYC is a wreck. When I was in my early >adulthood, I had a beat up 20 year old Chevy Nova. I think people generally >realized that I didn't much care if it took on another good dent or not! It >was also liberating for me to drive pretty much care free in that urban >jungle. > >Ed > > > >Tim Barrett wrote: > >>Neil - >> >>I'm not a New Yorker, but my wife was until I married her and 'made' her >>move down to VA. During my episodes of driving in Manhattan I noticed a >>definite pecking order to vehicles and traffic rights on the streets. >>Dump trucks and vehicles of their ilk were definitely the top of the heap. >> They did whatever they wanted to do and everyone else seemed to >>accomodate them. Next were big delivery trucks, the bigger the better, >>and then there was this whole battle going on between cabs and buses and >>limos. People in normal cars were at the mercy of all of the above, but >>even with the normal cars there were levels of peckmanship. >> >>Since I didn't live there, but just had to deal with it sporadically, I >>found it all very amusing. At the time I owned a Jeep Cherokee and a >>Saturn. Other drivers gave me greater latitude and more deference when I >>was driving the Jeep, and in the Saturn I just sort of disappeared into >>the throng and was ignored entirely. >> >>The most fun I ever had on the streets of Manhattan was when we moved my >>wife out. I rented a 24 foot U-Haul truck and drove it from 24th and 2nd >>Ave out of the city and down to VA, and boy it was refreshing to have >>everyone get out of my way. People seemed to anticipate what I was about >>to do and just move out of the way. No honking horns or dirty looks or >>anything. >> >>That may be one of the reasons why someone would want an intimidating >>vehicle on the streets of NY. >> >>But where can they park it? >> >>Tim >> >>neil lipes wrote: >> >>>You should read the book published by PublicAffairs (NYC) (the exact name >>>escapes me at this time of the morning) concerning the hazards these >>>"monsters" possess, since you own an SUV I doubt you will have an >>>unbiased view, but anyone with intellectual honesty can only reach one >>>conclusion after reading the book. And oh I have been told some of these >>>"monster" vehicles have Nakamichi radios on board..(a neccessary thing to >>>have as your vehicle crushes the vehicle it has just hit...we can't have >>>the sound of crumpling steel intrude on our morning commute!) >>> >>>N >>> >>>>From: "Geoffrey Reynolds" >>>>Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >>>>To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >>>>Subject: Re: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank >>>>cassette? >>>>Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 10:41:53 -0500 >>>> >>>>From: "neil lipes" >>>> >>>> > Yes....... sorry fellows, but the amount of testosterone on NYC >>>>streets is >>>> > overwhelming!.....and sorry but, what is with all the females that >>>>are 5 >>>> > foot tall behind the wheels of these monsters??? I guess the >>>>operative >>>>word >>>> > is a INTIMIDATE! Those vehicles are a menace no two ways about it. >>>> >>>>Some of the drivers of any vehicle (not just SUV's) are the menace, not >>>>the >>>>vehicles. Do most of the people who drive SUV's actually "need" them? >>>>Probably not, but the same argument could be made of our Nakamichi tape >>>>decks too - we could get by quite well with a CD recorder, but we enjoy >>>>our >>>>Naks. Same thing with vehicles and many other material things. >>>> >>>>But I ask again if this is the Naktalk list or if I've been transferred >>>>to >>>>another... >>>>-- >>>>Geoffrey Reynolds >>>>Land Rover Discovery and Nak CR-7A Owner >>>> >>>>========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>>> >>>> Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >>>>========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>>> >>>> Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >>>>Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >>>>========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>_________________________________________________________________ >>>Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's >>>FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ >>> >>>========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>> >>> Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >>>========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>> >>> Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >>>Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >>>========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>> >>> >>========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> >> Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >>========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> >> Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >>Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >>========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> >> > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Don�t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From neillipes628 at hotmail.com Thu Jan 6 22:57:25 2005 From: neillipes628 at hotmail.com (neil lipes) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 16:57:25 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? In-Reply-To: <003a01c4f37d$41c2bf00$c801a8c0@geoffwin2k> Message-ID: What exactly is that topic? >From: greynolds at newsguy.com >Reply-To: greynolds at newsguy.com, Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Subject: Re: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank >cassette? >Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 18:21:16 -0500 > >From: "Nelson" > > > Interesting view. I think the objection to SUV's, and may other 4-wheel > > drive monsters (Shogan, et al), is that they are grossly wasteful of > > gasoline, a resource that is becoming more precious by the day and >without > > which Western society as we know it would cease. Thus, the criticism >is >of > > people who drive these vehicles without any mitigation (i.e. they don't >need > > such a specialist vehicle) and waste gallons of fuel for a 2 mile trip >to > > the shopping mall. > >And thus the SUV isn't the monster - the owner is :). > > > The other is that if a SUV (or any big four-wheel drive > > monster) and especially one with bullbars, should hit a pedestrian, the > > pedestrian is many times more likely to die than if he were hit by a >simple > > saloon car driving at the same speed. And since most pedestrians hit >by > > vehicles tend to be children, we might reduce child (and adult) FATACs >on > > the roads making these off-road vehicles drive only off the road. > >I've heard this argument before, but I've seen enough arguments on both >sides on this issue, that I'm not really convinced one way or another. >Once >you get past a certain speed, I suspect that the presence of a bullbar is >moot. > >I use my SUV primarily for hauling stuff that won't fit in my Honda and for >real recreational offroad use. I use my Honda to commute to work, etc. >Hopefully that is acceptable with the majority of the list members ;). >Otherwise feel free to call me a monster, take my CR-3A and CR-7A away from >me, and banish me from this list... > >Can we get back to the topic of this list??? >-- >Geoffrey Reynolds > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From compu_dude at earthlink.net Fri Jan 7 07:04:03 2005 From: compu_dude at earthlink.net (Compudude) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 22:04:03 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Turkish Nakamichi Ebayer References: <001501c4f45c$b28f4980$6401a8c0@robertbwpur6ye><41DDF0E5.9080905@cox.net> <1105069908.41de0754be714@www.richardhess.com> Message-ID: <00f201c4f47f$24ada440$2402a8c0@WorkGroup> I used my friend in Istanbul to buy SP-7 headphones from him. He is an honest seller and has rare and interesting items, but they are expensive though. I would definitely buy the T100 from him, if I had the money.. _Fuad ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard L. Hess" To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Turkish Nakamichi Ebayer > I used a Western Union money transfer and he got his money, I got my goods. > There was a hassle on my part getting WU to work on my computer, but it finally > happened and he was patient. It's not cheap, but I ordered from him twice and > was pleased. He even included a nice post card of Turkey in one of the > shipments. > -- > > Richard L. Hess > http://www.richardhess.com/ > > > Quoting Tim Barrett : > > > As much as I'd love to have a T-100, his minimum bid is out of my > > budget. I'll watch the progress on his stuff, though. > > > > rjkent at comcast.net wrote: > > > > > Hi Tim, > > > > > > I bid on and won some Telarc and Sheffield Reference tapes from him > > > (oldiesrecs at ttnet.net.tr). It was not wise, but I sent him cash by > > > Registered Mail to avoid the hastle of a wire transfer. Long story > > > short.....he apparently never recieved the money ($120), and I never > > > received my tapes. I'm not blaming him, because I have no way of > > > knowing where the cash ended up, but I would suggest anyone bidding on > > > his items not send cash. > > > > > > Robert Kent > > > > > > Tim wrote: > > > > > > There's an Ebay seller in Istanbul advertising some uncommon Nak items, > > > including a NEW IN BOX T-100 analyzer. He also has a plastic cover for > > > the 600 series, you 600 owners out there. There are a few complete > > > Sankyo transports, heads and pinch rollers, and a handful of alignment > > > fixtures. I suppose you have to be comfortable with the idea of dealing > > > with an international seller on Ebay, which I have yet to do. > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From neillipes628 at hotmail.com Thu Jan 6 22:48:08 2005 From: neillipes628 at hotmail.com (neil lipes) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 16:48:08 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? Message-ID: Or............playing Funeral March For A Marionette!.........Alfred Hitchcock where are you?...... N >From: "wme drewes" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Subject: Re: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank >cassette? >Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 11:24:42 +0200 > >I take it those are Nakamichi cell phones? (just kidding!) In this >country(South Africa) by law no cell phones may be activated in a moving >car!This applies whether it is built-in ,ear piece type or connected >through the Nak radio! Nakamichi Nakamichi NAKAMICHI !!! We also dont have >NAKAMICHI cars here so I cant join in the discussion--I know absolutely >nothing about them! >Walter > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Derrick Beckner" >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 10:30 PM >Subject: RE: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell,Who came first with a blank >cassette? > > > > I have two AWD Subarus, a Forester and a WRX. I will never buy another > > every day car that is not AWD. In wet or snowy weather there is simply >no > > comparison between these and a FWD car. The Forester is more like a > > Station Wagon in size and insurance. :) Handles very well. As for the > > WRX, let's just say you haven't experienced life until you've dropped >the > > clutch of a turbo/AWD car at 6000 or so rpm! I can also take it >anywhere >a > > Jeep can go as long as high ground clearance isn't required. I don't >know > > how people can fight with a Expiditon or Pick up truck everyday. Those > > things are like driving tanks. > > > > I think the biggest problem on the road today are cell phones. There is > > absolutely no reason for a person to be talking on the phone while > > driving. None. Yet I see probably 1 of 5 people driving on the phone. >I > > see people on the phone as they are backing out of their driveway! What > > the hell? > > > > > > > > At 02:45 PM 1/5/2005, you wrote: > > >Interesting view. I think the objection to SUV's, and may other >4-wheel > > >drive monsters (Shogan, et al), is that they are grossly wasteful of > > >gasoline, a resource that is becoming more precious by the day and >without > > >which Western society as we know it would cease. Thus, the criticism >is >of > > >people who drive these vehicles without any mitigation (i.e. they don't >need > > >such a specialist vehicle) and waste gallons of fuel for a 2 mile trip >to > > >the shopping mall. The other is that if a SUV (or any big four-wheel >drive > > >monster) and especially one with bullbars, should hit a pedestrian, the > > >pedestrian is many times more likely to die than if he were hit by a >simple > > >saloon car driving at the same speed. And since most pedestrians hit >by > > >vehicles tend to be children, we might reduce child (and adult) FATACs >on > > >the roads making these off-road vehicles drive only off the road. > > > > > >Thus, it ought to be compulsory to fit all SUVs and their like with > > >Nakamichi cassette machines with an inbuilt tape recording of >Rubenstein > > >playing Chopin's "The Funeral March" !!! (Phew! Still on topic!!) > > > > > >Gra' > > > > > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement From sie28873 at lycos.com Fri Jan 7 08:32:21 2005 From: sie28873 at lycos.com (Robert Sie) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 14:32:21 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] BX300 chips Message-ID: <20050107073221.DC216C611D@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Had a major problem with my BX300. A repairer I go to says it has a blown dolby ic chip and micro-processor chip. Doubtful these chips can still be purchased from Nakamichi - my repairer say no. Sounds like I have to scrouge around for a broken BX300 or BX300 circuit board. Anyone happen chance to have one or the other or do in fact have a source for them? Robert -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From ti at amb.org Fri Jan 7 10:06:53 2005 From: ti at amb.org (Ti Kan) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 01:06:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] Got my "new" CR-7A! In-Reply-To: <03a301c4f454$8ad06580$c801a8c0@geoffwin2k> from "greynolds@newsguy.com" at Jan 06, 2005 08:02:20 PM Message-ID: <20050107090653.637ABF0E2@smtp.amb.org> greynolds at newsguy.com writes: > Also, from list member Ron: > > The equalization upgrade was incorporated after > > S/N A130-08677, during the last quarter of 1985. > > CR-7 after serial # A130-11000 is supposedly the prefered serial number > range. My CR-7A is an early model S/N A130-01313. How is the "preferred" serial range different from what I have? Is the Eq upgrade simply a change from IEC1 to IEC2? If so then wouldn't that make it incompatible with my Dragon (which is also IEC1)? -Ti -- Ti Kan http://www.amb.org/ti Vorsprung durch Technik From salihdemir2 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 7 11:13:39 2005 From: salihdemir2 at yahoo.com (Salih Demir) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 02:13:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] Turkish Nakamichi Ebayer In-Reply-To: <001501c4f45c$b28f4980$6401a8c0@robertbwpur6ye> Message-ID: <20050107101339.92111.qmail@web52207.mail.yahoo.com> Yep, this guy has collected many reference items from a Nakamichi service closed in Germany. Some firends of mine in Istanbul also got many items from him and some of you in the board as well. I do believe, as long as he gets the money, he'll send the item to you; isnt it fair! Cheers, Tayfur __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Mhugo at sunint.co.za Fri Jan 7 11:34:25 2005 From: Mhugo at sunint.co.za (Mark Hugo) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:34:25 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Best recording deck Message-ID: The CR-7 and ZX-9 are top of their respective lines (ZX/CR). and are awesome sounding and highly desirable. The difference between the top of the line Naks is not great - in fact it's small - they all are power users tools and sound excellent. I have a perfect condition 682ZX - the top of the 680 line. It never ceases to amaze me with it's performance in every respect. Good luck with your future investment. Marc >>> dgb100 at psulias.psu.edu 01/05/05 06:31PM >>> Seems most people agree the CR7 is the best recording Nak, but are somewhat finicky and early models have some issues. The ZX7/ZX9 look like a lot of fun to play with. Are they reliable? Do they record as well as the CR7? The 680 series seem to be a lot of "purists" favorite decks. The 700/1000 with ABLE seem to be nearly impossible to maintain at this point. Where does the Dragon stand in recording competency? ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient/s. If you are not the intended recipient, you cannot use, copy, distribute, disclose or retain the email or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying to this message and to permanently delete it and all attachments from your computer. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present in this email and the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Fri Jan 7 13:01:42 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:01:42 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] CR-7 Modifications In-Reply-To: <000b01c4f45b$654e0630$6401a8c0@robertbwpur6ye> Message-ID: <008601c4f4b0$a6c709e0$76c74c51@oemcomputer> To be honest, I don't know what the mod is that Transtec used to do but it's not the bog standard CR7 Eq mod but something their Nak guru Tom van der Hoff created for any Nakamichi. All I know is that it supposed to give extra headroom without damaging any other part of the spectrum, as it were. I think I remember that Ron felt the modification looked like it made the the bias adjustment finer. The outcome of the modification on a ZX-9 or ZX-7 is that the Bias setting is only @ 0 but +1. I said before I think, I've not heard an unmodified ZX-9 but I have heard a factory spec CR7. To my ear, my modified ZX-9 was much closer to the source than the unmodified CR-7 although it is generally reckoned that a CR7 post 08677 (and probably pre-) is the more accurate between factory spec CR7 and ZX-9, if only because the former has a much shorter signal path. I have been told the Transtec modification took the CR7, or any Nak to which it was done, up to a new level clarity and accuracy. Sadly, however, Transtec won't do any work on Nak's anymore. Gra' -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of rjkent at comcast.net Sent: 07 January 2005 01:51 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] CR-7 Modifications Hi Ti, Gra', My CR-7A (used for the SF Session Marathon Master Tape) was produced the 4th Qtr of 1986 (SN 08102)....as much as two years after yours. It has the vent perforations on the top as you mentioned, but none on the side. From an earlier series of posts, I surmised that an EQ modification (IEC1 to IEC2) can be done on decks with serial numbers before approximately 08677. I had ESL do their own equalization modification when they overhauled my unit. They replaced the orange caps and installed the gear reel hub drive at the same time. Is the 'Transtec Mod." an EQ mod? Fuad has some good information on the circuit differences between an early and late CR-7, but I didn't save them since mine had already been modified. Robert Kent Ti Kan wrote: Interesting, what is entailed in this mod? Also, I just noticed by looking at the photos from the San Francisco bay area marathon tape meet, that the CR-7A we used to record the master has a vented opening "grille" at the left rear of top cover. Mine does not have such a vent, however it has venting on the left side. Was this a running change in production? My CR-7A is an early example, build date is first quarter of 1985, but it looks pristine. -Ti -- Ti Kan http://www.amb.org/ti Vorsprung durch Technik Ti Ask Wouter very nicely if he'll show you a picture of the internals of his CR-7 and consider copying the "Transtec" modification. You'll be very surprised at how good it is ... Gra' -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Fri Jan 7 13:01:45 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:01:45 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi Ebayer Advice. In-Reply-To: <001501c4f45c$b28f4980$6401a8c0@robertbwpur6ye> Message-ID: <008b01c4f4b0$a8bd0d80$76c74c51@oemcomputer> Wearing my Banker's hat, I recommend to everyone - NEVER send cash and be wary of anyone who won't accept checks/cheques or banker's drafts because it means they don't have a bank account. And if they don't have one that may also indicate they are bankrupt, with financial problems (i.e. not to be trusted with your money!), or if they do have a bank account but don't want to use it, quite possibly trying to clean money, which also means "not to be trusted". Most of all, trust your instinct when dealing with people on eBay. If it doesn't "feel" right, it probably isn't. Leave it and wait for another to come along later. If that sounds unscientific, think how often you;ve heard about a "Policeman's nose" when they act on things because they develop a sense of something not being right? Well, it's the same with my bank's fraud department - they frequently catch out fraud by their acute 6th sense that tells them something which, on the face of it looks innocent, is not. Gra' -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of rjkent at comcast.net Sent: 07 January 2005 02:01 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Turkish Nakamichi Ebayer Hi Tim, I bid on and won some Telarc and Sheffield Reference tapes from him (oldiesrecs at ttnet.net.tr). It was not wise, but I sent him cash by Registered Mail to avoid the hastle of a wire transfer. Long story short.....he apparently never recieved the money ($120), and I never received my tapes. I'm not blaming him, because I have no way of knowing where the cash ended up, but I would suggest anyone bidding on his items not send cash. Robert Kent Tim wrote: There's an Ebay seller in Istanbul advertising some uncommon Nak items, including a NEW IN BOX T-100 analyzer. He also has a plastic cover for the 600 series, you 600 owners out there. There are a few complete Sankyo transports, heads and pinch rollers, and a handful of alignment fixtures. I suppose you have to be comfortable with the idea of dealing with an international seller on Ebay, which I have yet to do. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Fri Jan 7 13:01:50 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:01:50 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] BX300 chips In-Reply-To: <20050107073221.DC216C611D@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <009501c4f4b0$ab85a360$76c74c51@oemcomputer> Email B&W - they may be able to help. Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of Robert Sie > Sent: 07 January 2005 07:32 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] BX300 chips > > > Had a major problem with my BX300. A repairer I go to says it > has a blown dolby ic chip and micro-processor chip. Doubtful > these chips can still be > purchased from Nakamichi - my repairer say no. Sounds like I > have to scrouge around for a broken BX300 or BX300 circuit board. > Anyone happen > chance to have one or the other or do in fact have a source for them? > Robert > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/d efault.asp?SRC=lycos10 ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Fri Jan 7 14:10:28 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:10:28 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] For Randall - Mono piano In-Reply-To: <008e01c4f279$370733c0$541a0cd0@r7g1f8> Message-ID: <00a701c4f4ba$41ef1b20$76c74c51@oemcomputer> The very best piano recording I have on vinyl is a 1962 pressing by RCA Victor of Chopin Sonatas played by Rubenstein. (RB-16282) The weight of the tonal reproduction of the piano (I think it's a Steinbeck - its too heavy to be a Yamaha!) is so good I really can close my eyes and believe the instrument is playing in my room ... that is when played through a Sugden A21 and out through a pair of Yamaha NS1000Ms. Perfect playing, perfect recording. There are two others, much older, that are also very good except they waver a little at time. Both are really heavy "His Masters Voice" records (as thick and heavy as Shellac!) One of them (ALP1028) is Rubenstein again, this time doing Chopin Polonaises, while the other (BLP1014) is Horowitz playing Beethoven Sonata No 14 and Mozart Sonata No 12. The latter is technically better than the Rubenstein as there is much less wavering - it's closer to the quality of the later RCA Victor record. I have other more "modern" mono and stereo piano recordings but only a few come close in terms of getting the tonal reproduction of the piano right and in the room, often relying on the acoustic of a "concert hall" to give a sense of realism. Having said that, I don't think I have any piano recordings on CD that sound as good as any of the vinyl. All the CD's, especially the modern digital recordings, seem to put a metal cover on the felt hammers of the piano, making them sound too harsh and devoid of sufficient colour to make them sound realistic. It is such that I sometimes have difficulty telling an electric piano apart from an acoustic one on CD! And trying to tell a Steinbeck from a Yamaha ... just about impossible. That's not just using my current CD player, a Jupiter 2000 (noted for its "analogue" sound) but all CD players I have had the pleasure of listening to, including a amazingly expensive 3 box Wadia. Joke aside, a British comedian was just about to play some jazz on a piano during a show a few months back. He played a note and stopped to say: "Steinbeck have asked me to announce that this piano is .... a Yamaha." He then curled his lip with disgust and proceeded to play in the style of Jamie Callum (who'd only been playing the same instrument a few moments before) and said, "So, you think playing like that's clever?" he then proceeded to offer some smooth, more classical jazz, totally outclassing Callum. Who was it? Only Bruce Forthsyte!! Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of JVB/RHG > Sent: 04 January 2005 16:17 > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: Re: [naktalk] For Alex > > > And who is the artist and what is the music??? > > Randall > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nelson" > To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 7:33 AM > Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Alex > > > > I agree. My best piano recording is not on CD and is not a "modern" > stereo > > vinyl record but a late 1950s/early 1960s mono record. > > > > Gra' > > > From george.valkov at gmail.com Fri Jan 7 16:00:28 2005 From: george.valkov at gmail.com (george valkov) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 15:00:28 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] For Randall - Mono piano In-Reply-To: <00a701c4f4ba$41ef1b20$76c74c51@oemcomputer> References: <008e01c4f279$370733c0$541a0cd0@r7g1f8> <00a701c4f4ba$41ef1b20$76c74c51@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <518b7b1050107070042e4dc4c@mail.gmail.com> Steinbeck? You mean Steinway ? Were you having a Beck's while writing this -:) On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:10:28 -0000, Nelson wrote: > The very best piano recording I have on vinyl is a 1962 pressing by RCA > Victor of Chopin Sonatas played by Rubenstein. (RB-16282) The weight of > the tonal reproduction of the piano (I think it's a Steinbeck - its too > heavy to be a Yamaha!) is so good I really can close my eyes and believe the > instrument is playing in my room ... that is when played through a Sugden > A21 and out through a pair of Yamaha NS1000Ms. Perfect playing, perfect > recording. > > There are two others, much older, that are also very good except they waver > a little at time. Both are really heavy "His Masters Voice" records (as > thick and heavy as Shellac!) One of them (ALP1028) is Rubenstein again, > this time doing Chopin Polonaises, while the other (BLP1014) is Horowitz > playing Beethoven Sonata No 14 and Mozart Sonata No 12. The latter is > technically better than the Rubenstein as there is much less wavering - it's > closer to the quality of the later RCA Victor record. I have other more > "modern" mono and stereo piano recordings but only a few come close in terms > of getting the tonal reproduction of the piano right and in the room, often > relying on the acoustic of a "concert hall" to give a sense of realism. > > Having said that, I don't think I have any piano recordings on CD that sound > as good as any of the vinyl. All the CD's, especially the modern digital > recordings, seem to put a metal cover on the felt hammers of the piano, > making them sound too harsh and devoid of sufficient colour to make them > sound realistic. It is such that I sometimes have difficulty telling an > electric piano apart from an acoustic one on CD! And trying to tell a > Steinbeck from a Yamaha ... just about impossible. That's not just using my > current CD player, a Jupiter 2000 (noted for its "analogue" sound) but all > CD players I have had the pleasure of listening to, including a amazingly > expensive 3 box Wadia. > > Joke aside, a British comedian was just about to play some jazz on a piano > during a show a few months back. He played a note and stopped to say: > > "Steinbeck have asked me to announce that this piano is .... a Yamaha." He > then curled his lip with disgust and proceeded to play in the style of Jamie > Callum (who'd only been playing the same instrument a few moments before) > and said, "So, you think playing like that's clever?" he then proceeded to > offer some smooth, more classical jazz, totally outclassing Callum. Who was > it? Only Bruce Forthsyte!! > > Gra' > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > Behalf Of JVB/RHG > > Sent: 04 January 2005 16:17 > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] For Alex > > > > > > And who is the artist and what is the music??? > > > > Randall > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Nelson" > > To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 7:33 AM > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Alex > > > > > > > I agree. My best piano recording is not on CD and is not a "modern" > > stereo > > > vinyl record but a late 1950s/early 1960s mono record. > > > > > > Gra' > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Fri Jan 7 16:19:02 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 15:19:02 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] For Randall - Mono piano In-Reply-To: <518b7b1050107070042e4dc4c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00b501c4f4cc$382b8b20$76c74c51@oemcomputer> Almost right!!! It's a Freudian slip because I desperately WANTED a Beck !!! (Beggar the Bud - gimme a Beck!) Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of george valkov > Sent: 07 January 2005 15:00 > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: Re: [naktalk] For Randall - Mono piano > > > Steinbeck? You mean Steinway ? Were you having a Beck's while > writing this -:) > > > On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:10:28 -0000, Nelson > wrote: > > The very best piano recording I have on vinyl is a 1962 pressing by RCA > > Victor of Chopin Sonatas played by Rubenstein. (RB-16282) > The weight of > > the tonal reproduction of the piano (I think it's a Steinbeck - its too > > heavy to be a Yamaha!) is so good I really can close my eyes > and believe the > > instrument is playing in my room ... that is when played > through a Sugden > > A21 and out through a pair of Yamaha NS1000Ms. Perfect playing, perfect > > recording. > > > > There are two others, much older, that are also very good > except they waver > > a little at time. Both are really heavy "His Masters Voice" records (as > > thick and heavy as Shellac!) One of them (ALP1028) is Rubenstein again, > > this time doing Chopin Polonaises, while the other (BLP1014) is Horowitz > > playing Beethoven Sonata No 14 and Mozart Sonata No 12. The latter is > > technically better than the Rubenstein as there is much less > wavering - it's > > closer to the quality of the later RCA Victor record. I have other more > > "modern" mono and stereo piano recordings but only a few come > close in terms > > of getting the tonal reproduction of the piano right and in the > room, often > > relying on the acoustic of a "concert hall" to give a sense of realism. > > > > Having said that, I don't think I have any piano recordings on > CD that sound > > as good as any of the vinyl. All the CD's, especially the > modern digital > > recordings, seem to put a metal cover on the felt hammers of the piano, > > making them sound too harsh and devoid of sufficient colour to make them > > sound realistic. It is such that I sometimes have difficulty telling an > > electric piano apart from an acoustic one on CD! And trying to tell a > > Steinbeck from a Yamaha ... just about impossible. That's not > just using my > > current CD player, a Jupiter 2000 (noted for its "analogue" > sound) but all > > CD players I have had the pleasure of listening to, including a > amazingly > > expensive 3 box Wadia. > > > > Joke aside, a British comedian was just about to play some jazz > on a piano > > during a show a few months back. He played a note and stopped to say: > > > > "Steinbeck have asked me to announce that this piano is .... a > Yamaha." He > > then curled his lip with disgust and proceeded to play in the > style of Jamie > > Callum (who'd only been playing the same instrument a few > moments before) > > and said, "So, you think playing like that's clever?" he then > proceeded to > > offer some smooth, more classical jazz, totally outclassing > Callum. Who was > > it? Only Bruce Forthsyte!! > > > > Gra' > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > > Behalf Of JVB/RHG > > > Sent: 04 January 2005 16:17 > > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] For Alex > > > > > > > > > And who is the artist and what is the music??? > > > > > > Randall > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Nelson" > > > To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 7:33 AM > > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Alex > > > > > > > > > > I agree. My best piano recording is not on CD and is not a "modern" > > > stereo > > > > vinyl record but a late 1950s/early 1960s mono record. > > > > > > > > Gra' > > > > > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From rjkent at comcast.net Fri Jan 7 16:43:29 2005 From: rjkent at comcast.net (rjkent at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 07:43:29 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] TDK SA-X Adjustment Message-ID: <001201c4f4cf$a66a79e0$6401a8c0@robertbwpur6ye> Hi Valman, I am not a tech, but I can tell you that the guys at ESL are not fond of TDK SA-X because it has odd formulation characteristics. (Perhaps if Jeff is listening in he could throw out a brief description of the problem). They much prefer to adjust the decks they work on to a different tape such as XLII-S. I happen to use both tapes, and on the three decks they have re-built for me so far, they adjusted to XLII-S. However, when I use SA-X I get very good results, and have no trouble setting my recording levels for consistent results. I do virtually all of my recording on my CR-7 which has the advantage of automatic calibration for playback head azimuth, bias current calibration, and level calibration for each channel. Robert Kent Valman wrote: Has anyone else noticed that it is hard to get the recording level right when using TDK SA-X?I know that SA-X is more sensitive tape than Maxell XLII-S but is more sensitive always a better thing?Maxell XLII-S seem's to exibit a tamer attitude with recording levels,with SA-X just when you think everything is set correctly i always get that one note that sends the recording meters off the deep end +10 (Distortion),Maxell seems to stay right were i put them.I do like the sound of SA-X and XLII-S but to me SA-X is a little too sensitive,it's aggravating trying to get the levels right,..Let me know what you think or maybe your observation's..Peace,Keith. My decks are a Akai GX-8 and Nak ZX-7. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com Fri Jan 7 16:57:02 2005 From: kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com (kannan srinivasaraghavan) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 07:57:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] TDK SA-X Adjustment In-Reply-To: <001201c4f4cf$a66a79e0$6401a8c0@robertbwpur6ye> Message-ID: <20050107155702.68925.qmail@web52410.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Bob TDK SA-X is bit strange when you adjust bias - If your set the bias a bit more than corret level - you get a very bad recording ( with very poor overload margin around 0 Db-)while MAXEL XL IIS requires underbias but behaves well with signal overloads. I had been careful when trying to set bias for TDk SA -X. TDK SA is a nice tape in most of the ways and MAxel XLII as well. kannan rjkent at comcast.net wrote: Hi Valman, I am not a tech, but I can tell you that the guys at ESL are not fond of TDK SA-X because it has odd formulation characteristics. (Perhaps if Jeff is listening in he could throw out a brief description of the problem). They much prefer to adjust the decks they work on to a different tape such as XLII-S. I happen to use both tapes, and on the three decks they have re-built for me so far, they adjusted to XLII-S. However, when I use SA-X I get very good results, and have no trouble setting my recording levels for consistent results. I do virtually all of my recording on my CR-7 which has the advantage of automatic calibration for playback head azimuth, bias current calibration, and level calibration for each channel. Robert Kent Valman wrote: Has anyone else noticed that it is hard to get the recording level right when using TDK SA-X?I know that SA-X is more sensitive tape than Maxell XLII-S but is more sensitive always a better thing?Maxell XLII-S seem's to exibit a tamer attitude with recording levels,with SA-X just when you think everything is set correctly i always get that one note that sends the recording meters off the deep end +10 (Distortion),Maxell seems to stay right were i put them.I do like the sound of SA-X and XLII-S but to me SA-X is a little too sensitive,it's aggravating trying to get the levels right,..Let me know what you think or maybe your observation's..Peace,Keith. My decks are a Akai GX-8 and Nak ZX-7. ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Fri Jan 7 16:36:45 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 15:36:45 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] TDK SA-X Adjustment In-Reply-To: <001201c4f4cf$a66a79e0$6401a8c0@robertbwpur6ye> Message-ID: <00c901c4f4ce$b17cc140$76c74c51@oemcomputer> Interesting. Come to think of it, not only do I find I have to re-adjust the azimuth between Side A and B when I use European TDK SA , I sometimes have to slightly change the Bias settings, too. Not noticed that with my EMTEC/BASF Chrome Super tapes. (That's using the ZX-9, even AFTER it's been to B&W for a full service.) Gra' -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of rjkent at comcast.net Sent: 07 January 2005 15:43 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] TDK SA-X Adjustment Hi Valman, I am not a tech, but I can tell you that the guys at ESL are not fond of TDK SA-X because it has odd formulation characteristics. (Perhaps if Jeff is listening in he could throw out a brief description of the problem). They much prefer to adjust the decks they work on to a different tape such as XLII-S. I happen to use both tapes, and on the three decks they have re-built for me so far, they adjusted to XLII-S. However, when I use SA-X I get very good results, and have no trouble setting my recording levels for consistent results. I do virtually all of my recording on my CR-7 which has the advantage of automatic calibration for playback head azimuth, bias current calibration, and level calibration for each channel. Robert Kent Valman wrote: Has anyone else noticed that it is hard to get the recording level right when using TDK SA-X?I know that SA-X is more sensitive tape than Maxell XLII-S but is more sensitive always a better thing?Maxell XLII-S seem's to exibit a tamer attitude with recording levels,with SA-X just when you think everything is set correctly i always get that one note that sends the recording meters off the deep end +10 (Distortion),Maxell seems to stay right were i put them.I do like the sound of SA-X and XLII-S but to me SA-X is a little too sensitive,it's aggravating trying to get the levels right,..Let me know what you think or maybe your observation's..Peace,Keith. My decks are a Akai GX-8 and Nak ZX-7. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alexcozac at hotmail.com Fri Jan 7 18:09:58 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:09:58 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] TDK SA-X Adjustment Message-ID: Hi! Me too. works superbly with my Dragon, I have 2 boxes of SA-X-100 minutes assembled in USA, tape made in Japan from the earlier 90ties, and NO problem at all!!! Maybe the lasted ones assembled in Europe...made problems?! Happy Listening, ALEX! >From: >Reply-To: rjkent at comcast.net, Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >To: >Subject: [naktalk] TDK SA-X Adjustment >Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 07:43:29 -0800 > >Hi Valman, > >I am not a tech, but I can tell you that the guys at ESL are not fond of >TDK SA-X because it has odd formulation characteristics. (Perhaps if Jeff >is listening in he could throw out a brief description of the problem). >They much prefer to adjust the decks they work on to a different tape such >as XLII-S. I happen to use both tapes, and on the three decks they have >re-built for me so far, they adjusted to XLII-S. However, when I use SA-X >I get very good results, and have no trouble setting my recording levels >for consistent results. I do virtually all of my recording on my CR-7 >which has the advantage of automatic calibration for playback head azimuth, >bias current calibration, and level calibration for each channel. > >Robert Kent > >Valman wrote: >Has anyone else noticed that it is hard to get the >recording level right when using TDK SA-X?I know that >SA-X is more sensitive tape than Maxell XLII-S but is >more sensitive always a better thing?Maxell XLII-S >seem's to exibit a tamer attitude with recording >levels,with SA-X just when you think everything is set >correctly i always get that one note that sends the >recording meters off the deep end +10 >(Distortion),Maxell seems to stay right were i put >them.I do like the sound of SA-X and XLII-S but to me >SA-X is a little too sensitive,it's aggravating trying >to get the levels right,..Let me know what you think >or maybe your observation's..Peace,Keith. My decks are >a Akai GX-8 and Nak ZX-7. >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From p9019 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 7 19:28:33 2005 From: p9019 at yahoo.com (Scott Johnson) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:28:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] BX300 chips In-Reply-To: <20050107073221.DC216C611D@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20050107182833.75999.qmail@web40424.mail.yahoo.com> I have Dolby chips, but, sadly no micro. I have a MR-1 (basically the same as the BX-300) that needs the micro as well. A couple years ago I tried to get one from Nak USA and kept getting, Oh, it's back ordered and we don't have an ETA. I did get a price though, $23.01. That was back in May of 2002 when Patty was there. I tried from March to May and then gave up. I'm not sure if the micro is shared with the BX-1, BX-2, BX-100, BX-125, BX-150 or MR-2. SJ --- Robert Sie wrote: > Had a major problem with my BX300. A repairer I go to says it has > a blown dolby ic chip and micro-processor chip. Doubtful these > chips can still be > purchased from Nakamichi - my repairer say no. Sounds like I > have to scrouge around for a broken BX300 or BX300 circuit board. > Anyone happen > chance to have one or the other or do in fact have a source for > them? > Robert > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com Fri Jan 7 20:13:30 2005 From: kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com (kannan srinivasaraghavan) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:13:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] BX300 chips In-Reply-To: <20050107182833.75999.qmail@web40424.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050107191330.50371.qmail@web52401.mail.yahoo.com> I had done this micro processor change from a CR 1 to CR 3 or from BX 1 to CR3 - I do remember that the recorder that received is CR 3. Check the Processor as some 3 heads use two processors. Sometimes CR 1 can be a good parts machine not only for gear drive or mode cammotor - even for this Micro Processor parts! wish you luck in this effort kannan Scott Johnson wrote: I have Dolby chips, but, sadly no micro. I have a MR-1 (basically the same as the BX-300) that needs the micro as well. A couple years ago I tried to get one from Nak USA and kept getting, Oh, it's back ordered and we don't have an ETA. I did get a price though, $23.01. That was back in May of 2002 when Patty was there. I tried from March to May and then gave up. I'm not sure if the micro is shared with the BX-1, BX-2, BX-100, BX-125, BX-150 or MR-2. SJ --- Robert Sie wrote: > Had a major problem with my BX300. A repairer I go to says it has > a blown dolby ic chip and micro-processor chip. Doubtful these > chips can still be > purchased from Nakamichi - my repairer say no. Sounds like I > have to scrouge around for a broken BX300 or BX300 circuit board. > Anyone happen > chance to have one or the other or do in fact have a source for > them? > Robert > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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URL: From p9019 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 7 21:02:21 2005 From: p9019 at yahoo.com (Scott Johnson) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:02:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] BX300 chips In-Reply-To: <20050107191330.50371.qmail@web52401.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050107200221.85137.qmail@web40423.mail.yahoo.com> Sounds good, but, I don't believe the Dolby chips that Robert needs are the same in the CR-1, CR-2 as the BX-300. The BX-300 uses the TEA0652 and the CR-1, CR-2 uses a bigger chip, I can't remember the number. I guess you can't have everything. SJ --- kannan srinivasaraghavan wrote: > I had done this micro processor change from a CR 1 to CR 3 or from > BX 1 to CR3 - I do remember that the recorder that received is CR > 3. Check the Processor as some 3 heads use two processors. > Sometimes CR 1 can be a good parts machine not only for gear drive > or mode cammotor - even for this Micro Processor parts! > wish you luck in this effort > kannan > > Scott Johnson wrote: > I have Dolby chips, but, sadly no micro. I have a MR-1 (basically > the same as the BX-300) that needs the micro as well. A couple > years > ago I tried to get one from Nak USA and kept getting, Oh, it's back > ordered and we don't have an ETA. I did get a price though, $23.01. > > That was back in May of 2002 when Patty was there. I tried from > March to May and then gave up. > > I'm not sure if the micro is shared with the BX-1, BX-2, BX-100, > BX-125, BX-150 or MR-2. > > SJ > > --- Robert Sie wrote: > > > Had a major problem with my BX300. A repairer I go to says it has > > a blown dolby ic chip and micro-processor chip. Doubtful these > > chips can still be > > purchased from Nakamichi - my repairer say no. Sounds like I > > have to scrouge around for a broken BX300 or BX300 circuit board. > > > Anyone happen > > chance to have one or the other or do in fact have a source for > > them? > > Robert > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages > > > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > > Maintain your account here: > > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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Doubtful these chips can still be >purchased from Nakamichi - my repairer say no. Sounds like I have to scrouge around for a broken BX300 or BX300 circuit board. Anyone happen >chance to have one or the other or do in fact have a source for them? >Robert > > > From greynolds at newsguy.com Fri Jan 7 15:12:05 2005 From: greynolds at newsguy.com (Geoffrey Reynolds) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 09:12:05 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] re - TDK or Maxell, Who came first with a blank cassette? References: Message-ID: <006501c4f4c2$e1213860$15eeb3a4@tfcorp.tfn.com> From: "neil lipes" > What exactly is that topic? Err, Nakamichi cassette decks perhaps... -- Geoffrey Reynolds From mark.l.caton at btinternet.com Fri Jan 7 22:09:21 2005 From: mark.l.caton at btinternet.com (Mark Caton) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 21:09:21 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] SUV's! Grammar! What the Hell! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200501072108.j07L8ZHY016226@zebra.naks.com> Taking it one step further - a "Billericky" . ref. Ian Dury (and the Blockheads) - blindin' geezer! Mark (Norf lundun) _____ From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Doug Locke Sent: 07 January 2005 01:12 To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: RE: [naktalk] SUV's! Grammar! What the Hell! Gathered from Colin's previous postings, perhaps the rhyming slang for Nakamichi should be "dicky", big or small? Doug. -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Nelson Sent: 06 January 2005 18:17 To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: RE: [naktalk] SUV's! Grammar! What the Hell! Oh Gawd! Neva mind the bleedin' sweaty 350lb pin head, this one's a bleedin' Cockney geeza!! Watcha Colin!! I may now be an 'onorary Scouser these days but I'm originally from Souf of the Riva, mate! The restavya may not understand wot I'm sayin' but Colin wiwl cos 'ees from Lundun. Anyways, this is fonetic spellin' in a Souf Lundun axcent, innit. Now then, me old China. Luv ya postin', mate an' I agree wiv a lot of it. But keep y'blinkin' wig on ' cos we're only 'aving a bit of fun an' ribbin' each uvva! So, wot's Cockney rhymin' slang for Nakamichi? -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Colin Marsh Sent: 06 January 2005 13:11 To: naktalk Subject: [naktalk] SUV's! Grammar! What the Hell! Oh, G First I must ask you to excuse my grammar, I am a common man, I come from the East End of London England and my degree is only in engineering! so I know my place guv! Nearly every posting in the last week as been on the subjects of Grammar or SUV's and the No. of Dragons you own!. What is going on? lets finish with all this crap! First lets look at SUV's. 4 + 4's and the like. come on you guys, you all know the ONLY reason why you drive them and it's nowt to do with guzzling petrol, running bulls over with you bars, moving heavy goods, protecting yourself from other road users, squashing little children and old ladies or choking the world with your pollution. My grandmother told me that the only reason men drive these monsters is all about the size of their private bits!, you know, Man driving big powerful car = little willie. Woman driving big powerful car = her man has a little willie. I am told that's why there are so many SUV's in the US! Yes its true! I once knew a lovely old lady. who spent her "working" life entertaining gentlemen in Bayswater, London. What she told me about her observations of international willie sizes over the years backs this up! Oh, I drive a 4 + 4, I tow boats the with it that my car wont. The No. of Dragons and CR7's in your spare bedroom possibly has something to do with Penis size as well? Who knows, they say there is nowt as strange as the relationship between men and their machines! Enough said I think. Grammar? What the hell are you guys about! This is the 21st century, things are changing, If I was reading the covering letter for a job application I would realise that that so called "grammatically correct" letter was probably written by somebody else anyway! My best employee, the guy who contributes more to my company than any other (including myself!) cant string 4 words together! so what! I cant imagine nowt so boring that to have a long conversation with somebody who acts like he has "the Shorter Oxford Dictionary" shoved up his ass! Iv'e just finished reading a book by a guy called Clarkson, this guy is passionate about cars and machines and he appears on UK TV all the time. The book has been composed in the same fashion as the man speaks on TV, with passion. So I understand it, it's great! If the book had been edited to make it grammatically correct I would have thrown it aside after the first chapter! American English? so its a bastardised version of the real thing! Colour vs color, who really cares. Your average Englishman doesn't I am sure, Way back in the "Dark ages" of the last century The way you spoke or wrote your language determined your class. In UK at least I believe the reaction to the way we are "Changing " the language is mostly by those who use it to define their "Middle English" status? What a load of bull! Status is now defined by money and nowt else. Will someone out there talk "Nakamichi!" please? after all this is "Naktalk" isn't it? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bwana747 at hotmail.com Sat Jan 8 03:13:24 2005 From: bwana747 at hotmail.com (bwana747 _) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 20:13:24 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi Ebayer Advice. In-Reply-To: <008b01c4f4b0$a8bd0d80$76c74c51@oemcomputer> Message-ID: I totally agree about avoiding any unclear, untraceable sellers or any who attempt dubious claims or promises while expecting payment via untraceable means . Major red flags are any attempt to withold information about critical deck functions or uses a questionable / incorrect photo. With eBay there are bargains to be had with a fair possibility of finding something wrong with what you've bought that the seller "uh, forgot to mention." The same cautions apply as with classified ads where the possibility always exists that it is a fence for stolen goods. That's certainly not to say one can't find good deals and completely honest deals on eBay. I have bought quality items on eBay (and similar sources) and have also received items with obvious, yet unmentioned defects. I hope whoever bought the "Holy Grail" deck several weeks ago got a good deal and a usable or repairable deck for their $2000 bid. Always remain mindful of whether a tape deck can be restored or repaired with sufficient economy (and available parts) both in terms of what a seller claims AND in terms of what you'd expect a deck of x-years old to require even if everything is said to "work great." What "sounds great" to a Kraco / Certron / Yorx audiophile probably will differ markedly from a McIntosh / Nak / B&W audiophile expects so I'd be mindful of an ad's vocabulary (e.g. "big sound" vs. "clear sound" or "it works" vs. "quiet tape transport with reliable playback and record functions). Etc. Etc. It will also be useful to know what, if any, legal rights or protections you would have in dealing with someone in (whatever) foreign country. As is the case with my comments on the "Holy Grail" deck I'm speaking generically of my expectations of a seller not about a specific seller. Best of luck. Bob >From: "Nelson" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Nakamichi Ebayer Advice. >Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:01:45 -0000 > >Wearing my Banker's hat, I recommend to everyone - NEVER send cash and be >wary of anyone who won't accept checks/cheques or banker's drafts because >it >means they don't have a bank account. And if they don't have one that may >also indicate they are bankrupt, with financial problems (i.e. not to be >trusted with your money!), or if they do have a bank account but don't want >to use it, quite possibly trying to clean money, which also means "not to >be >trusted". > >Most of all, trust your instinct when dealing with people on eBay. If it >doesn't "feel" right, it probably isn't. Leave it and wait for another to >come along later. If that sounds unscientific, think how often you;ve >heard >about a "Policeman's nose" when they act on things because they develop a >sense of something not being right? Well, it's the same with my bank's >fraud department - they frequently catch out fraud by their acute 6th sense >that tells them something which, on the face of it looks innocent, is not. > >Gra' > > > -----Original Message----- >From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf >Of >rjkent at comcast.net >Sent: 07 January 2005 02:01 >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: [naktalk] Turkish Nakamichi Ebayer > > > Hi Tim, > > I bid on and won some Telarc and Sheffield Reference tapes from him >(oldiesrecs at ttnet.net.tr). It was not wise, but I sent him cash by >Registered Mail to avoid the hastle of a wire transfer. Long story >short.....he apparently never recieved the money ($120), and I never >received my tapes. I'm not blaming him, because I have no way of knowing >where the cash ended up, but I would suggest anyone bidding on his items >not >send cash. > > Robert Kent > > Tim wrote: > > There's an Ebay seller in Istanbul advertising some uncommon Nak items, > including a NEW IN BOX T-100 analyzer. He also has a plastic cover for > the 600 series, you 600 owners out there. There are a few complete > Sankyo transports, heads and pinch rollers, and a handful of alignment > fixtures. I suppose you have to be comfortable with the idea of dealing > with an international seller on Ebay, which I have yet to do. >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= From flifton at mac.com Sat Jan 8 10:14:18 2005 From: flifton at mac.com (Fred Lifton) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 01:14:18 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Best recordings In-Reply-To: <200501071544.j07FinHZ015269@zebra.naks.com> References: <200501071544.j07FinHZ015269@zebra.naks.com> Message-ID: Hi all, this makes me think of something I've been meaning to ask for some time. What are list-members favorite all-time recordings? Not necessarily great performances or performers, but the technically best engineered/recorded tracks. I'm especially interested in titles that are currently available so I could buy them and educate my ears. Looking forward to the responses. Fred BTW, there is a "Steinbeck" piano, but it's made from old outhouse planks and really only sounds good in Oklahoma. Move it to California and it dries up and blows away... ;-) On Jan 7, 2005, at 7:44 AM, naktalk-request at naks.com wrote: > > From: "Nelson" > Date: January 7, 2005 5:10:28 AM PST > To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Randall - Mono piano > Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > The very best piano recording I have on vinyl is a 1962 pressing by RCA > Victor of Chopin Sonatas played by Rubenstein. (RB-16282) The > weight of > the tonal reproduction of the piano (I think it's a Steinbeck - its too > heavy to be a Yamaha!) is so good I really can close my eyes and > believe the > instrument is playing in my room ... that is when played through a > Sugden > A21 and out through a pair of Yamaha NS1000Ms. Perfect playing, > perfect > recording. > > > > "Steinbeck have asked me to announce that this piano is .... a > Yamaha." He > then curled his lip with disgust and proceeded to play in the style of > Jamie > Callum (who'd only been playing the same instrument a few moments > before) > and said, "So, you think playing like that's clever?" he then > proceeded to > offer some smooth, more classical jazz, totally outclassing Callum. > Who was > it? Only Bruce Forthsyte!! > > Gra' > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On >> Behalf Of JVB/RHG >> Sent: 04 January 2005 16:17 >> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >> Subject: Re: [naktalk] For Alex >> >> >> And who is the artist and what is the music??? >> >> Randall >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Nelson" >> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 7:33 AM >> Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Alex >> >> >>> I agree. My best piano recording is not on CD and is not a "modern" >> stereo >>> vinyl record but a late 1950s/early 1960s mono record. >>> >>> Gra' >>> "The Internet, a magnificent new technology combining the credibility of anonymous hearsay with the excitement of typing." Jon Stewart -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Read the Pro Audio list archives for that answer, I'm not going to try and summarize here. > >Bala > >Nelson wrote: >Yum yum! I'd love to hear that through a nice amp and speakers ... > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > Behalf Of Richarrd L. Hess > > Sent: 05 January 2005 19:08 > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Wills ,Dragons CR 7's and such like > > > > > > Bala, a CD is recorded at 44,100 samples per second with 16 bits > > per channel per > > sample. I am recording 24 bits per sample per channel at 88,200 > > samples per > > second: double the sample rate and 50% more bits. 88.2/24 is the usual > > shorthand for identifying this. A CD is 44.1/16 > > > > Cheers, > > > > Richard ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cmmarsh at ntlworld.com Sun Jan 9 13:08:55 2005 From: cmmarsh at ntlworld.com (Colin Marsh) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 12:08:55 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Blank tape stocks? Message-ID: I have only been a member of this forum for a month or so but following the threads and posts has started me using the format once again. My (Nakamichi) recorders are : a Dragon, currently in my other home in South Africa, a ZX7 currently having a recording fault repaired by Bowers and Wilkins and a BX125e in the UK. I do have other machines made by ReVox Aiwa and Tandburg but I use these with their internal DBX units or an external pair of DBX units. I have never used the DBX units with the Naks. I have a stock of new/old cassettes, Type 2 and type 4 ( all the usual more common makes, TDK, Maxell, Fuji, Sony, and BASF) not out of their packing, and quite a few of the less common Type 2 and 4 tapes including Nakamichi branded TDK stock and the Metal cased examples from the 80s and 90s. I don't really want to use these cassettes if I can help it and I have now an urgency to get some new stocks on my shelfs. I have always used Reel to Reel with ReVox recorders as my preferred recording medium, but with Quantegy now out of production I want to keep my reel tape stocks (about 60)until we see if another manufacturer steps in! I now find that cassette tape in no longer available in the wide ranges it used to be! I have searched the internet and my results show very little choice in the UK? Type 2 stock seems to be TDK SA, CDing 2, Maxell XL11. and type 4 only TDK MA! I did manage to get a few boxes of Quantegy type 2 tapes as well. I am told that Fuji also have a couple of formulations around but I have never liked their tapes! Is it worth bothering with type 1 tapes? Somebody said that the TDK and Maxell tape stocks in the EU are sourced in the EU? and the US stock is sourced in Japan? is this so and is there a difference in the formulations used? In group members opinions what is the best tapes to go for? should I wait to next month when I will be in the US and buy US Stock? The type 4 tapes that I can buy in the UK are as I said TDK MA, I can also get, I think Maxell Type 4 tapes from the same source. The TDKs are about 3 times the cost of the Maxell ( about 1.30 UK pounds). Should I get a stock of these as well? What do you guys think of the Quantegy cassettes? Oh, I record mostly from best quality FM broadcast, but also from LP record if I borrow something outstanding! I don't record CD unless I use DBX, and that is not very often as I prefer the warmth of analogue. I really would appreciate the groups advice on this, Thanks. Please excuse my misuse of the English language and my grammar, I am only a common East End of London Boy and we don't talk proper!. Colin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sun Jan 9 15:09:03 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:09:03 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] SUV's! Grammar! What the Hell! In-Reply-To: <200501072108.j07L8ZHY016226@zebra.naks.com> Message-ID: <001901c4f654$c6327da0$f6e24c51@oemcomputer> 'Ere, Mark - I fink you've got i'!! i.e. A Nakamichi = A Nippy Dicky Gra' -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Mark Caton Sent: 07 January 2005 21:09 To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' Subject: RE: [naktalk] SUV's! Grammar! What the Hell! Taking it one step further – a “Billericky” . ref. Ian Dury (and the Blockheads) – blindin’ geezer! Mark (Norf lundun) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sun Jan 9 15:09:06 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:09:06 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Blank tape stocks? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001e01c4f654$c7ccf3c0$f6e24c51@oemcomputer> Neil said "but with Quantegy now out of production I want to keep my reel tape stocks (about 60)until we see if another manufacturer steps in!" My impression was that it is the wide professional tapes that are out of production from Quantegy. Correct me if wrong but as I understand it, there are still good domestic R-2-R tape sources still available from other sources. Gra' -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lists at richardhess.com Sun Jan 9 20:26:59 2005 From: lists at richardhess.com (Richard L. Hess) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 14:26:59 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Blank tape stocks? In-Reply-To: <001e01c4f654$c7ccf3c0$f6e24c51@oemcomputer> References: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20050109142110.0399c6b0@127.0.0.1> At 02:09 PM 1/9/2005 +0000, Nelson wrote: >My impression was that it is the wide professional tapes that are out of >production from Quantegy. Correct me if wrong but as I understand it, >there are still good domestic R-2-R tape sources still available from >other sources. Gra', Unless Quantegy comes back, it's my understanding that there are no professional tapes in the 1/4"-2" width. The Radio Shack tapes that are/were made by Hanny in Hong Kong have never gained wide acceptance as quality tapes. The JAI from India are the old-style red-oxide tapes (like Scotch 111, and perhaps not as good). Agfa was acquired by BASF, then BASF became EMTEC and died last year AMPEX owned and then spun off Quantegy which also acquired 3M/Scotch's tape business and is now questionable Capitol Magnetics acquired the old Audio Devices and has been gone for a while Zonal left this world a few years ago--at least as far as tape is concerned Maxell has stopped making reel to reel tape as of a year ago or so Sony tape has had lots of problems and I'm pretty sure they don't make it any more I don't think TDK makes reel tape any more Who did I leave out? As far as cassettes go, the premium TDK and Maxell tapes seem to be out of production (I don't even think Maxell XL-IIS is available new any more). Cheers? Richard From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sun Jan 9 22:58:04 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:58:04 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Blank tape stocks? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050109142110.0399c6b0@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: <000601c4f696$4bd082e0$fb814c51@oemcomputer> Thanks Richard - I shan't be buying a Reel-to-reel. Well, that's that, then - last one to leave, please switch out the lights. Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of Richard L. Hess > Sent: 09 January 2005 19:27 > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Blank tape stocks? > > > At 02:09 PM 1/9/2005 +0000, Nelson wrote: > >My impression was that it is the wide professional tapes that are out of > >production from Quantegy. Correct me if wrong but as I understand it, > >there are still good domestic R-2-R tape sources still available from > >other sources. > > Gra', > > Unless Quantegy comes back, it's my understanding that there are no > professional tapes in the 1/4"-2" width. > > The Radio Shack tapes that are/were made by Hanny in Hong Kong have never > gained wide acceptance as quality tapes. The JAI from India are the > old-style red-oxide tapes (like Scotch 111, and perhaps not as good). > > Agfa was acquired by BASF, then > BASF became EMTEC and died last year > AMPEX owned and then spun off Quantegy > which also acquired 3M/Scotch's tape business > and is now questionable > Capitol Magnetics acquired the old Audio Devices > and has been gone for a while > Zonal left this world a few years ago--at least as far > as tape is concerned > Maxell has stopped making reel to reel tape as of > a year ago or so > Sony tape has had lots of problems and I'm pretty sure > they don't make it any more > I don't think TDK makes reel tape any more > > Who did I leave out? > > As far as cassettes go, the premium TDK and Maxell tapes seem to > be out of > production (I don't even think Maxell XL-IIS is available new any more). > > Cheers? > > Richard > > > From alexcozac at hotmail.com Mon Jan 10 00:41:19 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:41:19 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Blank tape stocks? Message-ID: Hi Richard! What concerns here in Israel, I can obtain for now Fuji DR-2/100minutes and Z-2/90 minutes cassettes type 2 chrome equivalent. very easy, and at lovely low prices! As R to R do not concern me...I'm happy! I acquired 2 boxes of Z-2/90 minutes entirely made in Japan, by surprise the case/shell/housing is "Welded"...NO screws...Don't understand "WHY"...? for the Top of the Line product...but...that is that!!! Happy Listening, ALEX! >From: "Richard L. Hess" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Blank tape stocks? >Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 14:26:59 -0500 > >At 02:09 PM 1/9/2005 +0000, Nelson wrote: >>My impression was that it is the wide professional tapes that are out of >>production from Quantegy. Correct me if wrong but as I understand it, >>there are still good domestic R-2-R tape sources still available from >>other sources. > >Gra', > >Unless Quantegy comes back, it's my understanding that there are no >professional tapes in the 1/4"-2" width. > >The Radio Shack tapes that are/were made by Hanny in Hong Kong have never >gained wide acceptance as quality tapes. The JAI from India are the >old-style red-oxide tapes (like Scotch 111, and perhaps not as good). > >Agfa was acquired by BASF, then > BASF became EMTEC and died last year >AMPEX owned and then spun off Quantegy > which also acquired 3M/Scotch's tape business > and is now questionable >Capitol Magnetics acquired the old Audio Devices > and has been gone for a while >Zonal left this world a few years ago--at least as far > as tape is concerned >Maxell has stopped making reel to reel tape as of > a year ago or so >Sony tape has had lots of problems and I'm pretty sure > they don't make it any more >I don't think TDK makes reel tape any more > >Who did I leave out? > >As far as cassettes go, the premium TDK and Maxell tapes seem to be out of >production (I don't even think Maxell XL-IIS is available new any more). > >Cheers? > >Richard > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From Mhugo at sunint.co.za Mon Jan 10 07:07:32 2005 From: Mhugo at sunint.co.za (Mark Hugo) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:07:32 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Best recordings Message-ID: Too good Fred!! Keyboard from the Sea of Cortez no doubt. Marc >>> flifton at mac.com 01/08/05 11:14AM >>> Hi all, this makes me think of something I've been meaning to ask for some time. What are list-members favorite all-time recordings? Not necessarily great performances or performers, but the technically best engineered/recorded tracks. I'm especially interested in titles that are currently available so I could buy them and educate my ears. Looking forward to the responses. Fred BTW, there is a "Steinbeck" piano, but it's made from old outhouse planks and really only sounds good in Oklahoma. Move it to California and it dries up and blows away... ;-) On Jan 7, 2005, at 7:44 AM, naktalk-request at naks.com wrote: > > From: "Nelson" > Date: January 7, 2005 5:10:28 AM PST > To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" > Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Randall - Mono piano > Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > The very best piano recording I have on vinyl is a 1962 pressing by RCA > Victor of Chopin Sonatas played by Rubenstein. (RB-16282) The > weight of > the tonal reproduction of the piano (I think it's a Steinbeck - its too > heavy to be a Yamaha!) is so good I really can close my eyes and > believe the > instrument is playing in my room ... that is when played through a > Sugden > A21 and out through a pair of Yamaha NS1000Ms. Perfect playing, > perfect > recording. > > > > "Steinbeck have asked me to announce that this piano is .... a > Yamaha." He > then curled his lip with disgust and proceeded to play in the style of > Jamie > Callum (who'd only been playing the same instrument a few moments > before) > and said, "So, you think playing like that's clever?" he then > proceeded to > offer some smooth, more classical jazz, totally outclassing Callum. > Who was > it? Only Bruce Forthsyte!! > > Gra' > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On >> Behalf Of JVB/RHG >> Sent: 04 January 2005 16:17 >> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >> Subject: Re: [naktalk] For Alex >> >> >> And who is the artist and what is the music??? >> >> Randall >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Nelson" >> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 7:33 AM >> Subject: RE: [naktalk] For Alex >> >> >>> I agree. My best piano recording is not on CD and is not a "modern" >> stereo >>> vinyl record but a late 1950s/early 1960s mono record. >>> >>> Gra' >>> "The Internet, a magnificent new technology combining the credibility of anonymous hearsay with the excitement of typing." Jon Stewart The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient/s. If you are not the intended recipient, you cannot use, copy, distribute, disclose or retain the email or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying to this message and to permanently delete it and all attachments from your computer. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present in this email and the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. From neillipes628 at hotmail.com Sun Jan 9 16:23:16 2005 From: neillipes628 at hotmail.com (neil lipes) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 10:23:16 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Blank tape stocks? In-Reply-To: <001e01c4f654$c7ccf3c0$f6e24c51@oemcomputer> Message-ID: Little known fact: here in the US........the open reel tape one purchases at Radio Shack was oem'd by Ampex!...so there are some good things to be had at RS! >From: "Nelson" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Blank tape stocks? >Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:09:06 -0000 > >Neil said "but with Quantegy now out of production I want to keep my reel >tape stocks (about 60)until we see if another manufacturer steps in!" My >impression was that it is the wide professional tapes that are out of >production from Quantegy. Correct me if wrong but as I understand it, >there are still good domestic R-2-R tape sources still available from other >sources. > >Gra' >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Don�t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From bg3009 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 10 04:14:13 2005 From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:14:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] Info on obsolete op amp In-Reply-To: <000601c4f696$4bd082e0$fb814c51@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <20050110031413.30064.qmail@web41401.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, Does anyone know anything about this op amp, TA 7506M? Its a dual op amp and was made by Toshiba. Bala __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com From valman13440 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 10 04:29:21 2005 From: valman13440 at yahoo.com (Keith Hugo) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:29:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] TDK cassette's hailed as the "Best" Why? Message-ID: <20050110032921.45010.qmail@web40629.mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone know why in professional circles and in testing TDK cassette's were always thought of as a better tape than Maxell?Personally i like Maxell better but always wonderd why TDK was hailed as the King of cassette's especially the SA and SA-X series.And why were the majority of decks back in the day factory calibrated with TDK over Maxell did the manufactures think Maxell was inferior to TDK or did TDK pay them to use there tape and in turn have them tell the public that TDK was used to calibrate the deck they just purchased using that information to sell there tapes?Just some thing i was wondering about.Thanks for any info you smart folks have on these topics..Keith H. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From bhonhoff at dds.nl Mon Jan 10 09:42:01 2005 From: bhonhoff at dds.nl (bart honhoff) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:42:01 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Best recordings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1105346521.41e23fd995443@webmail.dds.nl> Maybe becoming off-topic again ;-) I prefer a Boesendorfer anytime. Grand piano, larger than 70 inches, that is. (And NO it has nothing to do with seizes of particular bodyparts, like ego, etc) AND: you can hear the difference between a Steinway and Boesendorfer on a Nak 600! (And that is NOT because either one lacks quality in sound) Quoting Mark Hugo : > Too good Fred!! Keyboard from the Sea of Cortez no doubt. > > Marc > > >>> flifton at mac.com 01/08/05 11:14AM >>> > > BTW, there is a "Steinbeck" piano, but it's made from old outhouse > planks and really only sounds good in Oklahoma. Move it to California > and it dries up and blows away... ;-) > > From bg3009 at yahoo.com Sun Jan 9 21:11:45 2005 From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 12:11:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] Blank tape stocks? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050109142110.0399c6b0@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: <20050109201145.99669.qmail@web41414.mail.yahoo.com> Hi guys, I thought these widths were the more best sellers, since studios seem to be using these types. Why would Quantegy close shop? I bought a few spools of EMTEC 900 tape, and it was really very nice. Very pleasant sounding and quite warm. Now I am really sweating knowing that no one out there makes new stock tapes. Certain doom for all the 14 machines I've got. Bala --- "Richard L. Hess" wrote: > At 02:09 PM 1/9/2005 +0000, Nelson wrote: > >My impression was that it is the wide professional > tapes that are out of > >production from Quantegy. Correct me if wrong but > as I understand it, > >there are still good domestic R-2-R tape sources > still available from > >other sources. > > Gra', > > Unless Quantegy comes back, it's my understanding > that there are no > professional tapes in the 1/4"-2" width. > > The Radio Shack tapes that are/were made by Hanny in > Hong Kong have never > gained wide acceptance as quality tapes. The JAI > from India are the > old-style red-oxide tapes (like Scotch 111, and > perhaps not as good). > > Agfa was acquired by BASF, then > BASF became EMTEC and died last year > AMPEX owned and then spun off Quantegy > which also acquired 3M/Scotch's tape business > and is now questionable > Capitol Magnetics acquired the old Audio Devices > and has been gone for a while > Zonal left this world a few years ago--at least as > far > as tape is concerned > Maxell has stopped making reel to reel tape as of > a year ago or so > Sony tape has had lots of problems and I'm pretty > sure > they don't make it any more > I don't think TDK makes reel tape any more > > Who did I leave out? > > As far as cassettes go, the premium TDK and Maxell > tapes seem to be out of > production (I don't even think Maxell XL-IIS is > available new any more). > > Cheers? > > Richard > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! > http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page � Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com From bhonhoff at dds.nl Sun Jan 9 22:17:35 2005 From: bhonhoff at dds.nl (bart honhoff) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:17:35 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Best recordings In-Reply-To: References: <200501071544.j07FinHZ015269@zebra.naks.com> Message-ID: <1105305455.41e19f6f941a4@webmail.dds.nl> Hi, In many respects my favourite recordings are: Glenn Gould's interpretation of Bach works On Record, not CD's. Preferred Recordplayer: Thorens 126 SME 3009 on well calibrated Stanton 681 EEE connected to a Quad 33/303 to ESL 1956. I do own the CD's but they are a far cry from the records. Non of my past or current CD players is able to get it right. (By the way, I do own a record of it made on my grumpy NAK 550, now 24 years old and well tempered.) bart By no coincedence a pianoplaying hobbyist. Quoting Fred Lifton : > Hi all, > this makes me think of something I've been meaning to ask for some > time. What are list-members favorite all-time recordings? From bg3009 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 10 03:17:14 2005 From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:17:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] Blank tape stocks? In-Reply-To: <000601c4f696$4bd082e0$fb814c51@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <20050110021714.67122.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> Well Nelson, The world would miss out on a legacy the day those lights are going to be switched out. By I for one, wont let that happen. Bala --- Nelson wrote: > Thanks Richard - I shan't be buying a Reel-to-reel. > > Well, that's that, then - last one to leave, please > switch out the lights. > > Gra' > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com > [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > > Behalf Of Richard L. Hess > > Sent: 09 January 2005 19:27 > > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Blank tape stocks? > > > > > > At 02:09 PM 1/9/2005 +0000, Nelson wrote: > > >My impression was that it is the wide > professional tapes that are out of > > >production from Quantegy. Correct me if wrong > but as I understand it, > > >there are still good domestic R-2-R tape sources > still available from > > >other sources. > > > > Gra', > > > > Unless Quantegy comes back, it's my understanding > that there are no > > professional tapes in the 1/4"-2" width. > > > > The Radio Shack tapes that are/were made by Hanny > in Hong Kong have never > > gained wide acceptance as quality tapes. The JAI > from India are the > > old-style red-oxide tapes (like Scotch 111, and > perhaps not as good). > > > > Agfa was acquired by BASF, then > > BASF became EMTEC and died last year > > AMPEX owned and then spun off Quantegy > > which also acquired 3M/Scotch's tape business > > and is now questionable > > Capitol Magnetics acquired the old Audio Devices > > and has been gone for a while > > Zonal left this world a few years ago--at least as > far > > as tape is concerned > > Maxell has stopped making reel to reel tape as of > > a year ago or so > > Sony tape has had lots of problems and I'm pretty > sure > > they don't make it any more > > I don't think TDK makes reel tape any more > > > > Who did I leave out? > > > > As far as cassettes go, the premium TDK and Maxell > tapes seem to > > be out of > > production (I don't even think Maxell XL-IIS is > available new any more). > > > > Cheers? > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! > http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: > http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From ti at amb.org Mon Jan 10 11:36:55 2005 From: ti at amb.org (Ti Kan) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:36:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] Info on obsolete op amp In-Reply-To: <20050110031413.30064.qmail@web41401.mail.yahoo.com> from "Bala Ganesh Chandra" at Jan 09, 2005 07:14:13 PM Message-ID: <20050110103655.3302917CEF@smtp.amb.org> Bala Ganesh Chandra writes: > Does anyone know anything about this op amp, > TA 7506M? Its a dual op amp and was made by Toshiba. According to this page: http://www.tvservice.org/components/CROSSREF.PDF The TA7506M could be crossed to a LM301A, which is a very old design general-purpose opamp. However the LM301A is a single (standard pin-out), not a dual. I guess the accuracy of the cross reference is in question, if you're sure that the TA7506M is a dual. -Ti -- Ti Kan http://www.amb.org/ti Vorsprung durch Technik From alexcozac at hotmail.com Mon Jan 10 11:50:43 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:50:43 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Best recordings In-Reply-To: <1105305455.41e19f6f941a4@webmail.dds.nl> Message-ID: Dear Bart! Try to buy the CD Naim CDS-2 complete with his separate power supply! No cheap product...but...a superlitve one in listening pleasure. I had the oportunity to hear it on my best friend "ALL NAIM" gear owner!!! After so I'm 100% sure that you will enjoy your CD's again better that on your Thorens table! Good Luck! ALEX! >From: bart honhoff >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Best recordings >Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:17:35 +0100 > >Hi, > >In many respects my favourite recordings are: > >Glenn Gould's interpretation of Bach works > >On Record, not CD's. > >Preferred Recordplayer: Thorens 126 SME 3009 on well calibrated Stanton 681 >EEE >connected to a Quad 33/303 to ESL 1956. > >I do own the CD's but they are a far cry from the records. >Non of my past or current CD players is able to get it right. > >(By the way, I do own a record of it made on my grumpy NAK 550, now 24 >years >old and well tempered.) > >bart > >By no coincedence a pianoplaying hobbyist. > >Quoting Fred Lifton : > > > Hi all, > > this makes me think of something I've been meaning to ask for some > > time. What are list-members favorite all-time recordings? >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From Mhugo at sunint.co.za Mon Jan 10 12:13:08 2005 From: Mhugo at sunint.co.za (Mark Hugo) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:13:08 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] TDK cassette's hailed as the "Best" Why? Message-ID: Hi Keith, I have come across many people who also had a quick, seemingly considered response that TDK was "the best". When you ask them "which TDK?" or "better in what way?", the eyes sometimes glaze over. If they are specific and say, "well, SA and SA-X" - that's a good start. However, I wonder if they would be as adept at mentioning the Maxell types against which this subjective view was reckoned. I have known many, many sound engineers and techies in my business - you know the guys in black tee shirts, lank hair with pony tails, a bit unkempt, steel-framed glasses - they are a sub-species you know!!! I really enjoy them, they are fascinating. These guys do like TDKs, it's true. I always thought that it's because you could usually get a good cross-section of their range in most places - whereas other brands were not as completely represented. I recall one sound manager of ours, who shall remain anonymous, called Richard Dobbin (heh heh Richard, I'll forward this to you!!) who really liked Sony UCX-S. Good tape, and a ready foil for the SA-X. There's nothing wrong with either though. In the end, I think it was just down to "what they knew" in the way of brand/type and which one hadn't let them down. Cheers, Marc >>> valman13440 at yahoo.com 01/10/05 05:29AM >>> Does anyone know why in professional circles and in testing TDK cassette's were always thought of as a better tape than Maxell?Personally i like Maxell better but always wonderd why TDK was hailed as the King of cassette's especially the SA and SA-X series.And why were the majority of decks back in the day factory calibrated with TDK over Maxell did the manufactures think Maxell was inferior to TDK or did TDK pay them to use there tape and in turn have them tell the public that TDK was used to calibrate the deck they just purchased using that information to sell there tapes?Just some thing i was wondering about.Thanks for any info you smart folks have on these topics..Keith H. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient/s. If you are not the intended recipient, you cannot use, copy, distribute, disclose or retain the email or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying to this message and to permanently delete it and all attachments from your computer. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present in this email and the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. From alexcozac at hotmail.com Mon Jan 10 12:44:16 2005 From: alexcozac at hotmail.com (Alex Cozac) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:44:16 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] TDK cassette's hailed as the "Best" Why? Message-ID: Shalom Mark & Keith! To my knowledge...maybe I'm wrong?, Nakamichi EX - EX/2, SX-SX/2 & ZX were TDK with Nakamichi logo! And of course those Tri-Tracer 700/1000 Mk 2 also and all those 500 600 series were also calibrated ONLY...with TDK brand cassettes. Later models I don't know! Cheers, ALEX! >From: "Mark Hugo" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: , >Subject: Re: [naktalk] TDK cassette's hailed as the "Best" Why? >Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:13:08 +0200 > >Hi Keith, > >I have come across many people who also had a quick, seemingly >considered response that TDK was "the best". When you ask them "which >TDK?" or "better in what way?", the eyes sometimes glaze over. If they >are specific and say, "well, SA and SA-X" - that's a good start. >However, I wonder if they would be as adept at mentioning the Maxell >types against which this subjective view was reckoned. > >I have known many, many sound engineers and techies in my business - >you know the guys in black tee shirts, lank hair with pony tails, a bit >unkempt, steel-framed glasses - they are a sub-species you know!!! I >really enjoy them, they are fascinating. These guys do like TDKs, it's >true. I always thought that it's because you could usually get a good >cross-section of their range in most places - whereas other brands were >not as completely represented. I recall one sound manager of ours, who >shall remain anonymous, called Richard Dobbin (heh heh Richard, I'll >forward this to you!!) who really liked Sony UCX-S. Good tape, and a >ready foil for the SA-X. There's nothing wrong with either though. > >In the end, I think it was just down to "what they knew" in the way of >brand/type and which one hadn't let them down. > >Cheers, > >Marc > > >>> valman13440 at yahoo.com 01/10/05 05:29AM >>> >Does anyone know why in professional circles and in >testing TDK cassette's were always thought of as a >better tape than Maxell?Personally i like Maxell >better but always wonderd why TDK was hailed as the >King of cassette's especially the SA and SA-X >series.And why were the majority of decks back in the >day factory calibrated with TDK over Maxell did the >manufactures think Maxell was inferior to TDK or did >TDK pay them to use there tape and in turn have them >tell the public that TDK was used to calibrate the >deck they just purchased using that information to >sell there tapes?Just some thing i was wondering >about.Thanks for any info you smart folks have on >these topics..Keith H. > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? 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Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From salihdemir2 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 10 12:49:00 2005 From: salihdemir2 at yahoo.com (Salih Demir) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:49:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] TDK SA-X Adjustment In-Reply-To: <20050107155702.68925.qmail@web52410.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050110114900.73077.qmail@web52207.mail.yahoo.com> Hi All, With such misbehaving tapes, I prefer to set the level lower than the reference point. you'll get much better result on high db / overload recordings, with least distortion. Tayfur kannan srinivasaraghavan wrote: Hi Bob TDK SA-X is bit strange when you adjust bias - If your set the bias a bit more than corret level - you get a very bad recording ( with very poor overload margin around 0 Db-)while MAXEL XL IIS requires underbias but behaves well with signal overloads. I had been careful when trying to set bias for TDk SA -X. TDK SA is a nice tape in most of the ways and MAxel XLII as well. kannan rjkent at comcast.net wrote: Hi Valman, I am not a tech, but I can tell you that the guys at ESL are not fond of TDK SA-X because it has odd formulation characteristics. (Perhaps if Jeff is listening in he could throw out a brief description of the problem). They much prefer to adjust the decks they work on to a different tape such as XLII-S. I happen to use both tapes, and on the three decks they have re-built for me so far, they adjusted to XLII-S. However, when I use SA-X I get very good results, and have no trouble setting my recording levels for consistent results. I do virtually all of my recording on my CR-7 which has the advantage of automatic calibration for playback head azimuth, bias current calibration, and level calibration for each channel. Robert Kent Valman wrote: Has anyone else noticed that it is hard to get the recording level right when using TDK SA-X?I know that SA-X is more sensitive tape than Maxell XLII-S but is more sensitive always a better thing?Maxell XLII-S seem's to exibit a tamer attitude with recording levels,with SA-X just when you think everything is set correctly i always get that one note that sends the recording meters off the deep end +10 (Distortion),Maxell seems to stay right were i put them.I do like the sound of SA-X and XLII-S but to me SA-X is a little too sensitive,it's aggravating trying to get the levels right,..Let me know what you think or maybe your observation's..Peace,Keith. 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Cheers, ALEX! >From: "Mark Hugo" >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >To: , >Subject: Re: [naktalk] TDK cassette's hailed as the "Best" Why? >Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:13:08 +0200 > >Hi Keith, > >I have come across many people who also had a quick, seemingly >considered response that TDK was "the best". When you ask them "which >TDK?" or "better in what way?", the eyes sometimes glaze over. If they >are specific and say, "well, SA and SA-X" - that's a good start. >However, I wonder if they would be as adept at mentioning the Maxell >types against which this subjective view was reckoned. > >I have known many, many sound engineers and techies in my business - >you know the guys in black tee shirts, lank hair with pony tails, a bit >unkempt, steel-framed glasses - they are a sub-species you know!!! I >really enjoy them, they are fascinating. These guys do like TDKs, it's >true. I always thought that it's because you could usually get a good >cross-section of their range in most places - whereas other brands were >not as completely represented. I recall one sound manager of ours, who >shall remain anonymous, called Richard Dobbin (heh heh Richard, I'll >forward this to you!!) who really liked Sony UCX-S. Good tape, and a >ready foil for the SA-X. There's nothing wrong with either though. > >In the end, I think it was just down to "what they knew" in the way of >brand/type and which one hadn't let them down. > >Cheers, > >Marc > > >>> valman13440 at yahoo.com 01/10/05 05:29AM >>> >Does anyone know why in professional circles and in >testing TDK cassette's were always thought of as a >better tape than Maxell?Personally i like Maxell >better but always wonderd why TDK was hailed as the >King of cassette's especially the SA and SA-X >series.And why were the majority of decks back in the >day factory calibrated with TDK over Maxell did the >manufactures think Maxell was inferior to TDK or did >TDK pay them to use there tape and in turn have them >tell the public that TDK was used to calibrate the >deck they just purchased using that information to >sell there tapes?Just some thing i was wondering >about.Thanks for any info you smart folks have on >these topics..Keith H. > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? 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If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying to this message and to permanently delete it and all attachments from your computer. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present in this email and the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. From Mhugo at sunint.co.za Mon Jan 10 13:44:46 2005 From: Mhugo at sunint.co.za (Mark Hugo) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:44:46 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Blank tape stocks? For an east-ender!! Message-ID: Hi Colin, Great that you using the cassette format again. I am writing to you from the Free State in South Africa, so nice to know you have a "plek" here in SA. I quite understand you do not want to plunder your collection of unopened tapes - they may be irreplaceable. The situation as you describe it it is the current reality. What would immediately suggest, if you are in the east-end, is to go to KVJ Fairdeal which is your neighbourhood. They are in Whitechapel Road opposite the Aldgate East tube station - if you are looking west up the road (which is a dual carriage way I think), it is on the left. It is a small shop that specialise in blank media of all types. They have a webpage - which is: http://www.kvjfairdeal.com/ You can order online with them and they will deliver anywhere in the UK. What is listed on the webpage may be exceeded by certain items they have "lying around" in smaller numbers in the store. You have already identified what is available and it's true, it isn't much. I'd plumb for Sony's CD-it (in the slide box) above TDK's CDingII. You may see Maxell UDII around. It has nothing much to be said for it - the TDK SA is better. However, the Maxell UDI is an unusually good type 1, better than AD, which is tough to find anyway. You might find AR (from TDK). That is an excellent type 1. Whatever Maxell XLII-S and TDK SA-X you can find, buy them. Another brand which can be found in the UK is BASF. However, usually only Chrome Extra (CE) and occasionally Chrome Super. These are fine tapes, especially the latter. At KVJ, they have English Maxell XLII (Fire Series) - which are excellent. They also have Fuji K2, ZII (Alex Cozac loves them!!) and the first rate type I, FRI-S. K2 predates ZII. They might have some Metal-Zs lying about - ask. It seems they are out of TDK AR - but ask for them - they did have the 100 length in stock. They might also have MA-XG - they were going for UKP2.99. It's ikely that the Maxell metals to which you refer are "Metal CD". These are fine but avoid the 100 and 110 minute versions. Basically, they are Maxell MX in a cheaper shell. Otherwise, they are good. Any English MX-S you can get are excellent, but they are like hens teeth. Best buys to my mind in the UK now would be: Maxell XLII-S, XLII and Metal-CD. If the odd MX (10 year old stock), MX-S, UD-I, or XLI-S were to pop up, I'd snap it up, if the price were sensible. BASF - look out for Chrome Maxima, Reference Maxima TPII and Metal Maxima TPIV. TDK - look for AR, new/old stock SA-X and MA from the far east. And MA-XG of course. Also, try out those Fuji K2s - you'll be surprised!! On your last question - is there a difference in formulations used worldwide? No, I have not found that to be so. English Maxells are identical to the Japanese ones (made at the Maxell Europe plant in Shropshire). TDK tapes made in Luxembourg have demonstrated quality problems though I haven't experienced them because the TDKs we get here are made in Thailand from Japanese materials. Let us know how you go on plundering KVJs stocks!! Cheers, Marc >>> cmmarsh at ntlworld.com 01/09/05 02:08PM >>> I have only been a member of this forum for a month or so but following the threads and posts has started me using the format once again. My (Nakamichi) recorders are : a Dragon, currently in my other home in South Africa, a ZX7 currently having a recording fault repaired by Bowers and Wilkins and a BX125e in the UK. I do have other machines made by ReVox Aiwa and Tandburg but I use these with their internal DBX units or an external pair of DBX units. I have never used the DBX units with the Naks. I have a stock of new/old cassettes, Type 2 and type 4 ( all the usual more common makes, TDK, Maxell, Fuji, Sony, and BASF) not out of their packing, and quite a few of the less common Type 2 and 4 tapes including Nakamichi branded TDK stock and the Metal cased examples from the 80s and 90s. I don't really want to use these cassettes if I can help it and I have now an urgency to get some new stocks on my shelfs. I have always used Reel to Reel with ReVox recorders as my preferred recording medium, but with Quantegy now out of production I want to keep my reel tape stocks (about 60)until we see if another manufacturer steps in! I now find that cassette tape in no longer available in the wide ranges it used to be! I have searched the internet and my results show very little choice in the UK? Type 2 stock seems to be TDK SA, CDing 2, Maxell XL11. and type 4 only TDK MA! I did manage to get a few boxes of Quantegy type 2 tapes as well. I am told that Fuji also have a couple of formulations around but I have never liked their tapes! Is it worth bothering with type 1 tapes? Somebody said that the TDK and Maxell tape stocks in the EU are sourced in the EU? and the US stock is sourced in Japan? is this so and is there a difference in the formulations used? In group members opinions what is the best tapes to go for? should I wait to next month when I will be in the US and buy US Stock? The type 4 tapes that I can buy in the UK are as I said TDK MA, I can also get, I think Maxell Type 4 tapes from the same source. The TDKs are about 3 times the cost of the Maxell ( about 1.30 UK pounds). Should I get a stock of these as well? What do you guys think of the Quantegy cassettes? Oh, I record mostly from best quality FM broadcast, but also from LP record if I borrow something outstanding! I don't record CD unless I use DBX, and that is not very often as I prefer the warmth of analogue. I really would appreciate the groups advice on this, Thanks. Please excuse my misuse of the English language and my grammar, I am only a common East End of London Boy and we don't talk proper!. Colin The information contained in this email is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. The content of this email, which may include one or more attachments, is strictly confidential, and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient/s. If you are not the intended recipient, you cannot use, copy, distribute, disclose or retain the email or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying to this message and to permanently delete it and all attachments from your computer. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present in this email and the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. From bhonhoff at dds.nl Mon Jan 10 14:10:47 2005 From: bhonhoff at dds.nl (bart honhoff) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:10:47 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] TDK cassette's hailed as the "Best" Why? In-Reply-To: <20050110032921.45010.qmail@web40629.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050110032921.45010.qmail@web40629.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1105362647.41e27ed707a19@webmail.dds.nl> Hi Keith, For what it is worth: In Holland TDK was easier/cheaper to get on every length and more consistent quality That's why the people I know/knew were using TDK to multiply tapes. regards, bart Quoting Keith Hugo : > Does anyone know why in professional circles and in > testing TDK cassette's were always thought of as a > better tape than Maxell? From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Mon Jan 10 13:49:57 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:49:57 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] TDK cassette's hailed as the "Best" Why? In-Reply-To: <20050110032921.45010.qmail@web40629.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002801c4f712$e4327300$fb814c51@oemcomputer> I don't think you'd find that Carlos thought TDK was the best tape and he was into the duplicating business. (Got an Emmy for one of his recordings, did you know?) Unfortunately, he's no longer around to explain why; but I do believe this subject was touched on by him and others in the past - worth searching the archives.) Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of Keith Hugo > Sent: 10 January 2005 03:29 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] TDK cassette's hailed as the "Best" Why? > > > Does anyone know why in professional circles and in > testing TDK cassette's were always thought of as a > better tape than Maxell?Personally i like Maxell > better but always wonderd why TDK was hailed as the > King of cassette's especially the SA and SA-X > series.And why were the majority of decks back in the > day factory calibrated with TDK over Maxell did the > manufactures think Maxell was inferior to TDK or did > TDK pay them to use there tape and in turn have them > tell the public that TDK was used to calibrate the > deck they just purchased using that information to > sell there tapes?Just some thing i was wondering > about.Thanks for any info you smart folks have on > these topics..Keith H. > > From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Mon Jan 10 13:50:02 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:50:02 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Best recordings Piano OT In-Reply-To: <1105346521.41e23fd995443@webmail.dds.nl> Message-ID: <002901c4f712$e75fbe20$fb814c51@oemcomputer> Bart Any recordings you'd recommend so I might hear this? Also, do you - or does anyone else - have any recordings of Forte Piano (as different from Piano Forte) that they can recommend? Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of bart honhoff > Sent: 10 January 2005 08:42 > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Best recordings > > > Maybe becoming off-topic again ;-) > > I prefer a Boesendorfer anytime. Grand piano, larger than 70 > inches, that is. > (And NO it has nothing to do with seizes of particular bodyparts, > like ego, etc) > > AND: you can hear the difference between a Steinway and > Boesendorfer on a Nak > 600! (And that is NOT because either one lacks quality in sound) > > Quoting Mark Hugo : > > > Too good Fred!! Keyboard from the Sea of Cortez no doubt. > > > > Marc > > > > >>> flifton at mac.com 01/08/05 11:14AM >>> > From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Mon Jan 10 13:50:07 2005 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Nelson) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:50:07 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] TDK cassette's hailed as the "Best" Why? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002a01c4f712$ea0e6360$fb814c51@oemcomputer> Allegedly, the Nakamichi tapes were always cut from the centre of the massive widths from which the thin cassette tapes were taken, with TDK taking the rest up to the edges for their own. Thus, the Nak' tapes were guaranteed to have a better consistency of the magnetic layer. Gra' > -----Original Message----- > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On > Behalf Of Alex Cozac > Sent: 10 January 2005 11:44 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] TDK cassette's hailed as the "Best" Why? > > > Shalom Mark & Keith! > > To my knowledge...maybe I'm wrong?, Nakamichi EX - EX/2, SX-SX/2 > & ZX were > TDK with Nakamichi logo! And of course those Tri-Tracer 700/1000 > Mk 2 also > and all those 500 600 series were also calibrated ONLY...with TDK brand > cassettes. Later models I don't know! > > Cheers, > > ALEX! > > > > >From: "Mark Hugo" > >Reply-To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > >To: , > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] TDK cassette's hailed as the "Best" Why? > >Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:13:08 +0200 > > > >Hi Keith, > > > >I have come across many people who also had a quick, seemingly > >considered response that TDK was "the best". When you ask them "which > >TDK?" or "better in what way?", the eyes sometimes glaze over. If they > >are specific and say, "well, SA and SA-X" - that's a good start. > >However, I wonder if they would be as adept at mentioning the Maxell > >types against which this subjective view was reckoned. > > > >I have known many, many sound engineers and techies in my business - > >you know the guys in black tee shirts, lank hair with pony tails, a bit > >unkempt, steel-framed glasses - they are a sub-species you know!!! I > >really enjoy them, they are fascinating. These guys do like TDKs, it's > >true. I always thought that it's because you could usually get a good > >cross-section of their range in most places - whereas other brands were > >not as completely represented. I recall one sound manager of ours, who > >shall remain anonymous, called Richard Dobbin (heh heh Richard, I'll > >forward this to you!!) who really liked Sony UCX-S. Good tape, and a > >ready foil for the SA-X. There's nothing wrong with either though. > > > >In the end, I think it was just down to "what they knew" in the way of > >brand/type and which one hadn't let them down. > > > >Cheers, > > > >Marc > > > > >>> valman13440 at yahoo.com 01/10/05 05:29AM >>> > >Does anyone know why in professional circles and in > >testing TDK cassette's were always thought of as a > >better tape than Maxell?Personally i like Maxell > >better but always wonderd why TDK was hailed as the > >King of cassette's especially the SA and SA-X > >series.And why were the majority of decks back in the > >day factory calibrated with TDK over Maxell did the > >manufactures think Maxell was inferior to TDK or did > >TDK pay them to use there tape and in turn have them > >tell the public that TDK was used to calibrate the > >deck they just purchased using that information to > >sell there tapes?Just some thing i was wondering > >about.Thanks for any info you smart folks have on > >these topics..Keith H. > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? 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If there is a lot of low level signal coming through then one may become disturbed by tape noise/hiss, in which case, it may be better to push the recording levels higher and live with the occasional distortions when there is overload. On the other hand, if the music is offering a high level signal most of the time, one can afford to drop the recording level to prevent over loading problems. Gra' -----Original Message----- From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Salih Demir Sent: 10 January 2005 11:49 To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] TDK SA-X Adjustment Hi All, With such misbehaving tapes, I prefer to set the level lower than the reference point. you'll get much better result on high db / overload recordings, with least distortion. Tayfur kannan srinivasaraghavan wrote: Hi Bob TDK SA-X is bit strange when you adjust bias - If your set the bias a bit more than corret level - you get a very bad recording ( with very poor overload margin around 0 Db-)while MAXEL XL IIS requires underbias but behaves well with signal overloads. I had been careful when trying to set bias for TDk SA -X. TDK SA is a nice tape in most of the ways and MAxel XLII as well. kannan rjkent at comcast.net wrote: Hi Valman, I am not a tech, but I can tell you that the guys at ESL are not fond of TDK SA-X because it has odd formulation characteristics. (Perhaps if Jeff is listening in he could throw out a brief description of the problem). They much prefer to adjust the decks they work on to a different tape such as XLII-S. I happen to use both tapes, and on the three decks they have re-built for me so far, they adjusted to XLII-S. However, when I use SA-X I get very good results, and have no trouble setting my recording levels for consistent results. I do virtually all of my recording on my CR-7 which has the advantage of automatic calibration for playback head azimuth, bias current calibration, and level calibration for each channel. Robert Kent Valman wrote: Has anyone else noticed that it is hard to get the recording level right when using TDK SA-X?I know that SA-X is more sensitive tape than Maxell XLII-S but is more sensitive always a better thing?Maxell XLII-S seem's to exibit a tamer attitude with recording levels,with SA-X just when you think everything is set correctly i always get that one note that sends the recording meters off the deep end +10 (Distortion),Maxell seems to stay right were i put them.I do like the sound of SA-X and XLII-S but to me SA-X is a little too sensitive,it's aggravating trying to get the levels right,..Let me know what you think or maybe your observation's..Peace,Keith. 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In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c4f714$b22b3840$3e74893e@oemcomputer> If anyone spots any good sources for the EMTEC/BASF cassettes please let me know as I prefer them to TDK and my local sources in the Liverpool area have dried up completely. I did find one bulk duplicator who was prepared to sell be Chrome Super in screw cassette cases, too, but the cost was high at almost £2.00 each for a C90. Gra' > From bhonhoff at dds.nl Mon Jan 10 16:58:36 2005 From: bhonhoff at dds.nl (bart honhoff) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:58:36 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Best recordings Piano OT In-Reply-To: <002901c4f712$e75fbe20$fb814c51@oemcomputer> References: <002901c4f712$e75fbe20$fb814c51@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <1105372716.41e2a62c8ed01@webmail.dds.nl> Hi Graham, The nicest Solist, which made the 'Boesy' famous, would have been mr. Liszt. However, for obvious reasons, no records do exist of the Grand Master, who made the Boesy larger than large. (It was the only Grandpiano, which was able to survive longer than 3 month of playing by mr. Liszt. Unlike the other brands ;-) Try some performances from Andre Previn or Leonard Bernstein. According the Boesendorfer Website a Oscar Peterson plays a Boesy as well. Since Classical Music is not everybodies turf: Mike Oldfield, he used on his first 4 albums a Bösendorfer (Boesendorfer) The sound of Bösendorfers - in my opinion - is that its tone is a bit more soft and less