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From shantiram2000 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  1 00:41:08 2010
From: shantiram2000 at yahoo.com (shanti ramachandran)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:41:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] TEAC Z-7000
In-Reply-To: <k2w518b7b11003310811l3670b28ew86ec74c4899ed9d1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <90846.23649.qm@web112719.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

A beast it is! Almost impossible to carry around!

Ram

--- On Wed, 3/31/10, george valkov <george.valkov at gmail.com> wrote:

From: george valkov <george.valkov at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] TEAC Z-7000
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 11:11 AM

I never said it's better - just that it's a beast -:).

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:33 PM, shanti ramachandran <shantiram2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:




George,

I have used this deck side by side with the Naks and the Naks blow it out of the park. 

The only deck that can stand up to the Naks( high end) is the Tandberg 3014A........

Ram

--- On Tue, 3/30/10, george valkov <george.valkov at gmail.com> wrote:



From: george valkov <george.valkov at gmail.com>
Subject: [naktalk] TEAC Z-7000


To: "Naktalk" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 10:25 AM

What a beast !

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Teac-Z-7000-Cassette-Deck_W0QQitemZ250601197372QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CE_Cassette_RL?hash=item3a58fecf3c





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From ericeholtz at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  1 16:42:10 2010
From: ericeholtz at yahoo.com (eric holtz)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:42:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] RM-200 Remote/MR1
Message-ID: <762578.86833.qm@web63901.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Hello fellow Naksters,
I recently purchased an RM-200 wired remote, claimed to work on my MR1. The seller claimed that it worked at the time of shipment, but after I received (very well packaged!), D-
eoxIT-ed the pins and plugged it in, the "Stop" function will not engage in any mode. All other functions work as they should, but not stop. Seller said it may be the remote port on the MR1. I have the service manual with the port diagrams, but is there something else to look for first? NOTE: The seller offered me a full refund (less shipping of course) and let me keep the remote! Since I am going to keep it, I'll be fiddling with it to get it stop properly. Any thoughts? 
Also, thanks to everyone for the faceplate cleaning tips! Pledge and Windex-hmmm...,
Eric
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From hitech at birch.net  Thu Apr  1 21:23:54 2010
From: hitech at birch.net (tom brucker)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 14:23:54 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] RM-200 Remote/MR1
In-Reply-To: <762578.86833.qm@web63901.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <JJEILGCDAPDANBMGBKEGCECHCPAA.hitech@birch.net>

Eric,
  The remote simultaneously connects ground  (pin 7) and  FF and RW pins 4
and 5, which are diode isolated. You can check this with a meter in diode
check red lead goes on the pins 4, then 5.

tom brucker
  -----Original Message-----
  From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf
Of eric holtz
  Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 9:42 AM
  To: naktalk at naks.com
  Subject: [naktalk] RM-200 Remote/MR1


        Hello fellow Naksters,
        I recently purchased an RM-200 wired remote, claimed to work on my
MR1. The seller claimed that it worked at the time of shipment, but after I
received (very well packaged!), D-
        eoxIT-ed the pins and plugged it in, the "Stop" function will not
engage in any mode. All other functions work as they should, but not stop.
Seller said it may be the remote port on the MR1. I have the service manual
with the port diagrams, but is there something else to look for first? NOTE:
The seller offered me a full refund (less shipping of course) and let me
keep the remote! Since I am going to keep it, I'll be fiddling with it to
get it stop properly. Any thoughts?
        Also, thanks to everyone for the faceplate cleaning tips! Pledge and
Windex-hmmm...,
        Eric
        LONG LIVE ANALOG!



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From t.dolan at hotmail.com  Fri Apr  2 02:58:40 2010
From: t.dolan at hotmail.com (Thomas Dolan)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 20:58:40 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] eject problem with Nak 482
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP6744E2F90B95B4C0B891B1FD1C0@phx.gbl>


This morning I picked up a 482 from a seller on CL. When I got it  
home, the eject button wouldn't work. It's actually depressed into the  
unit but the cassette door still won't open. Any tips on getting it  
open? Thanks for any help


From bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr  Fri Apr  2 09:16:29 2010
From: bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr (boitrel)
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 09:16:29 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Is 2SD985 a goog replacement of 2S1286?
Message-ID: <4BB599CD.3010403@univ-rennes1.fr>

Dear NakTalkers,

I have been told that a 2SD985 was a good substitute of 2SD1286 (used 
for example as Q648 in CR7)?

As "two heads are better than one", can someone confirm this?

Happy Easter week-end!
bernard



From willy at willyhermannservices.com  Fri Apr  2 18:13:39 2010
From: willy at willyhermannservices.com (Willy Hermann)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 08:13:39 -0800
Subject: [naktalk] eject problem with Nak 482
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP6744E2F90B95B4C0B891B1FD1C0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP6744E2F90B95B4C0B891B1FD1C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <w2s4b6f92901004020913k8ef3b047kff381ea65f90d0d2@mail.gmail.com>

That's a very common problem.  The eject is operated by a Bowden cable.  The
transport end of that cable is held in place in a nylon stirrup which cracks
with age and stress.  Nak realized early on that it was a bad design and
changed it in later machines.  Check the wiki official documents for Service
Information bulletin number OOD-SI-3115 for the repair.  They supplied a kit
for it but you can make it up from standard hardware.  Remember not to
torque down too tight on the final fix as it will deform the back plate of
the transport.

Best of luck.

Willy

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Thomas Dolan <t.dolan at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> This morning I picked up a 482 from a seller on CL. When I got it home, the
> eject button wouldn't work. It's actually depressed into the unit but the
> cassette door still won't open. Any tips on getting it open? Thanks for any
> help
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From hitech at birch.net  Fri Apr  2 23:02:34 2010
From: hitech at birch.net (tom brucker)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 16:02:34 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Is 2SD985 a goog replacement of 2S1286?
In-Reply-To: <4BB599CD.3010403@univ-rennes1.fr>
Message-ID: <JJEILGCDAPDANBMGBKEGMECLCPAA.hitech@birch.net>

My book says 2SD842,2SD946,2SD1980. Case size is important too.

tom brucker

-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On
Behalf Of boitrel
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 2:16 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: [naktalk] Is 2SD985 a goog replacement of 2S1286?


Dear NakTalkers,

I have been told that a 2SD985 was a good substitute of 2SD1286 (used 
for example as Q648 in CR7)?

As "two heads are better than one", can someone confirm this?

Happy Easter week-end!
bernard

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From paer.ericsson at blixtmail.se  Sat Apr  3 09:08:04 2010
From: paer.ericsson at blixtmail.se (=?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E4r_Ericsson?=)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 09:08:04 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet
Message-ID: <D01AF54DF24645E780DACB9DFDD75DDC@superdator>

Happy Easter all Naktalkers!

Here comes a fresh scan of a leaflet i found in my basement.

Pelle.
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From johngipps at ymail.com  Sat Apr  3 11:15:12 2010
From: johngipps at ymail.com (John Gipps)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 02:15:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Is 2SD985 a good replacement of 2S1286?
In-Reply-To: <201004021017.o32A8Lab012471@zxe.naks.com>
References: <201004021017.o32A8Lab012471@zxe.naks.com>
Message-ID: <417309.59337.qm@web113720.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi Bernard

All of the specified characteristics of a 2SD985 are the same or exceed those of a 2SD1286. The 2SD985 is rated at higher current, higher dissipation, the same current gain range (but at a higher current), the same switching speed, the same Vceo.

The difference is the package - the 2SD985 is in a TO126 package, and the 2SD1286 is in SC64. You could definitely use the 2SC985 to replace the 2SD1286, as long as the transistors don't need a heatsink - if they do, their mounting is different - it might be hard to do.

The big trap is that you will need to take care with pinout. When you look at a 2SD1286 from the front (metal tab at the back), with the pins pointing down, the left pin is Base, centre is Collector, right is Emitter. When you look at a 2SD985 the same way (metal tab at back, pins pointing down), the pins are reversed - so to have the same pinout, you look at the 2SD985 metal tab side.

Hope that's not confusing. Good luck

Regards

John Gipps


    
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Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 09:16:29 +0200
From: boitrel <bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr>
Subject: [naktalk] Is 2SD985 a goog replacement of 2S1286?
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Dear NakTalkers,

I have been told that a 2SD985 was a good substitute of 2SD1286 (used 
for example as Q648 in CR7)?

As "two heads are better than one", can someone confirm this?

Happy Easter week-end!
bernard


      
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From gstrahle at chariot.net.au  Sun Apr  4 15:50:06 2010
From: gstrahle at chariot.net.au (Graham Strahle)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 23:20:06 +0930
Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet
In-Reply-To: <D01AF54DF24645E780DACB9DFDD75DDC@superdator>
References: <D01AF54DF24645E780DACB9DFDD75DDC@superdator>
Message-ID: <353C16DA-9B30-4FF5-B6F1-23FA8331DD83@chariot.net.au>

Thanks Pelle, I haven't seen this one before. Happy Easter to you too.
Graham

On 03/04/2010, at 5:38 PM, Pär Ericsson wrote:

> Happy Easter all Naktalkers!
>
> Here comes a fresh scan of a leaflet i found in my basement.
>
> Pelle.<O-9081000A Leaflet.pdf>
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From jvbrhg at seanet.com  Sun Apr  4 16:29:24 2010
From: jvbrhg at seanet.com (JVBRHG)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 07:29:24 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet
References: <D01AF54DF24645E780DACB9DFDD75DDC@superdator>
Message-ID: <CCAE09CCA80B4516894B11A243FB7B2E@jvbrhg>

THANKS FOR SHARING THAT !  I'D NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE.  WHAT NOSTALGIA.

RANDALL
SEATTLE,WA
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: P�r Ericsson 
  To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
  Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 12:08 AM
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  Happy Easter all Naktalkers!

  Here comes a fresh scan of a leaflet i found in my basement.

  Pelle.


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From dougg at mmsav.com  Sun Apr  4 16:51:58 2010
From: dougg at mmsav.com (Doug Guth)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 10:51:58 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Leaflet
Message-ID: <4E48EB37936FCF49B8ED35936B06DDD462CB6E7A9F@mail.mmsav.com>

Thanks Pelle,
  Wow does that bring back memories!  I had a 1000II, 700II, 550, 350 w/ADS speakers, and a 580!  Now I just have a 680ZX and the DM-10!  :o)

Thanks again and happy listening!

Doug Guth
BSBE, CTS
Field Service Engineer
Multi Media Services
1029 Thousand Oaks Blvd.
Greenville, SC,  29607
(864) 297-8533
dougg at mmsav.com<mailto:dougg at mmsav.com>
________________________________
From: Pär Ericsson [paer.ericsson at blixtmail.se]
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 3:08 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet

Happy Easter all Naktalkers!

Here comes a fresh scan of a leaflet i found in my basement.

Pelle.
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From ddickerson at austin.rr.com  Sun Apr  4 18:23:13 2010
From: ddickerson at austin.rr.com (d. dickerson)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 11:23:13 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet
In-Reply-To: <D01AF54DF24645E780DACB9DFDD75DDC@superdator>
References: <D01AF54DF24645E780DACB9DFDD75DDC@superdator>
Message-ID: <28ca370c3a6589bb358d01887c847287@austin.rr.com>

thanks for the leaflet...well done....

blurb contained therein about Nak 680ZX reminds of a question about its 
capability to record/playback with two speeds...had read that 'RIAA' or 
some other sanctioning body had brought action and Nak had had to 
remove two-speed option from all succeeding models...does anyone have a 
more complete version of that episode?

dave dickerson, austin, tx

On 3 Apr 2010, at 02:08, Pär Ericsson wrote:

> Happy Easter all Naktalkers!
>  
> Here comes a fresh scan of a leaflet i found in my basement.
>  
> Pelle.
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From setiob at hotmail.com  Mon Apr  5 15:58:39 2010
From: setiob at hotmail.com (name)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:58:39 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet
In-Reply-To: <D01AF54DF24645E780DACB9DFDD75DDC@superdator>
References: <D01AF54DF24645E780DACB9DFDD75DDC@superdator>
Message-ID: <SNT140-ds2D7ACAC3D716757CFBCD0C9190@phx.gbl>

Wow, thank you so much, Pelle!

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Pär Ericsson
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 3:08 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet

 

Happy Easter all Naktalkers!

 

Here comes a fresh scan of a leaflet i found in my basement.

 

Pelle.

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From setiob at hotmail.com  Mon Apr  5 16:38:52 2010
From: setiob at hotmail.com (name)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:38:52 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet
In-Reply-To: <D01AF54DF24645E780DACB9DFDD75DDC@superdator>
References: <D01AF54DF24645E780DACB9DFDD75DDC@superdator>
Message-ID: <SNT140-ds17917D5629ED701744FE60C9190@phx.gbl>

Here is something that may be of interest also.

I scanned this recently.

 

Henry.

 

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/3248796/img01.jpg.html

 

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/3248797/img02.jpg.html

 

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/3248798/img03.jpg.html

 

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Pär Ericsson
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 3:08 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet

 

Happy Easter all Naktalkers!

 

Here comes a fresh scan of a leaflet i found in my basement.

 

Pelle.

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From jberger at well.com  Tue Apr  6 03:24:28 2010
From: jberger at well.com (John Berger)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:24:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
In-Reply-To: <201004051018.o35A8muj019923@zxe.naks.com>
References: <201004051018.o35A8muj019923@zxe.naks.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.64.1004051818270.21605@well.com>


It was the Nak 680 that had the half-speed recording option (and it would 
still get 15kHz on the top end).

My understanding is that Philips (the company who owned the patent on the 
compact cassette, and licensed its use) pressured Nak to go to the single 
speed.  They also went after B*I*C, with their two speed deck (which went 
the other direction of double-speed).   Apparently, part of the license 
specified the speed as part of the specs.

They also specified that the tapes be compatable mono or stereo, which is 
why cassettes have left and right channels side by side, instead of 
interleaved the way that they are on a reel-to-reel.



Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 11:23:13 -0500
From: "d. dickerson" <ddickerson at austin.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Leaflet
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID: <28ca370c3a6589bb358d01887c847287 at austin.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

thanks for the leaflet...well done....

blurb contained therein about Nak 680ZX reminds of a question about its
capability to record/playback with two speeds...had read that 'RIAA' or
some other sanctioning body had brought action and Nak had had to
remove two-speed option from all succeeding models...does anyone have a
more complete version of that episode?






From rpierce000 at centurytel.net  Tue Apr  6 02:43:00 2010
From: rpierce000 at centurytel.net (Bob Pierce)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:43:00 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet
In-Reply-To: <SNT140-ds17917D5629ED701744FE60C9190@phx.gbl>
References: <D01AF54DF24645E780DACB9DFDD75DDC@superdator>
	<SNT140-ds17917D5629ED701744FE60C9190@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <002301cad522$1d0a0240$571e06c0$@net>

Good grief!

 

I have a LOT of respect for NAK decks and saved for a long time for my
CR-70, but I think that is just a BIT overboard.

 

Bob

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of name
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 7:39 AM
To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Leaflet

 

Here is something that may be of interest also.

I scanned this recently.

 

Henry.

 

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/3248796/img01.jpg.html

 

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/3248797/img02.jpg.html

 

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/3248798/img03.jpg.html

 

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Pär Ericsson
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 3:08 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet

 

Happy Easter all Naktalkers!

 

Here comes a fresh scan of a leaflet i found in my basement.

 

Pelle.

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From shantiram2000 at yahoo.com  Tue Apr  6 15:57:36 2010
From: shantiram2000 at yahoo.com (shanti ramachandran)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 06:57:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.64.1004051818270.21605@well.com>
Message-ID: <156026.85912.qm@web112702.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

John, you are correct.

Phillips was the entity that legally forced Nakamichi to revert to the 1 7/8 speed due to patent violation. 

That is why only the 680 and the 680ZX( normal and auto azimuth adjusting decks) were the only Naks with half speed capability. 

Interestingly, these were the decks that were perfected before the ZXE and ZXL decks came into fruition.

Ram

--- On Mon, 4/5/10, John Berger <jberger at well.com> wrote:

From: John Berger <jberger at well.com>
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
To: naktalk at naks.com
Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 9:24 PM


It was the Nak 680 that had the half-speed recording option (and it would still get 15kHz on the top end).

My understanding is that Philips (the company who owned the patent on the compact cassette, and licensed its use) pressured Nak to go to the single speed.  They also went after B*I*C, with their two speed deck (which went the other direction of double-speed).   Apparently, part of the license specified the speed as part of the specs.

They also specified that the tapes be compatable mono or stereo, which is why cassettes have left and right channels side by side, instead of interleaved the way that they are on a reel-to-reel.



Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 11:23:13 -0500
From: "d. dickerson" <ddickerson at austin.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Leaflet
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID: <28ca370c3a6589bb358d01887c847287 at austin.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

thanks for the leaflet...well done....

blurb contained therein about Nak 680ZX reminds of a question about its
capability to record/playback with two speeds...had read that 'RIAA' or
some other sanctioning body had brought action and Nak had had to
remove two-speed option from all succeeding models...does anyone have a
more complete version of that episode?




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From johngipps at ymail.com  Tue Apr  6 16:20:20 2010
From: johngipps at ymail.com (John Gipps)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:20:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet
In-Reply-To: <201004061018.o36A91aw023886@zxe.naks.com>
References: <201004061018.o36A91aw023886@zxe.naks.com>
Message-ID: <663440.56222.qm@web113714.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi Henry and Bob

Thanks so much for those scans Henry - while I might have been tempted to agree with Bob back in the 80s, now as a collector of Nakamichi, I think it's great that Nakamichi went beyond audio, and created something as unique as the Limited.

I'd certainly like to have one on display at my place.

It's interesting to read the few paragraphs in the article, where the reasons for using gold are expounded - I have no idea whether Nakamichi really did give those reasons, or whether it's just the opinion of the writer. Certainly gold does give reliable connections over long periods, because it doesn't tarnish readily. But if you were trying to magnetically shield a head or something by plating it with a high conductivity metal, you wouldn't choose gold - silver and copper are both much better conductors than gold, and just a wee bit cheaper. I think in reality, the gold was there primarily to look great - and it does.

Regards

John Gipps



Message: 4

Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:43:00 -0700
From: "Bob Pierce" <rpierce000 at centurytel.net>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Leaflet
To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID: <002301cad522$1d0a0240$571e06c0$@net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Good grief!



I have a LOT of respect for NAK decks and saved for a long time for my
CR-70, but I think that is just a BIT overboard.



Bob



From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of name
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 7:39 AM
To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Leaflet



Here is something that may be of interest also.

I scanned this recently.



Henry.



http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/3248796/img01.jpg.html



http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/3248797/img02.jpg.html



http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/3248798/img03.jpg.html





From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Pär Ericsson
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 3:08 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet



Happy Easter all Naktalkers!



Here comes a fresh scan of a leaflet i found in my basement.



Pelle.

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From hitech at birch.net  Tue Apr  6 18:56:31 2010
From: hitech at birch.net (tom brucker)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:56:31 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
In-Reply-To: <156026.85912.qm@web112702.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <JJEILGCDAPDANBMGBKEGMEDECPAA.hitech@birch.net>

What if history had been different? What if 1/2 speed cassettes became the
standard? Metal tape would remain in production. A complete CD would fit on
a C-45. Live concerts could fit on one cassette uninterrupted.

tom brucker
  -----Original Message-----
  From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf
Of shanti ramachandran
  Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 8:58 AM
  To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
  Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5


        John, you are correct.

        Phillips was the entity that legally forced Nakamichi to revert to
the 1 7/8 speed due to patent violation.

        That is why only the 680 and the 680ZX( normal and auto azimuth
adjusting decks) were the only Naks with half speed capability.

        Interestingly, these were the decks that were perfected before the
ZXE and ZXL decks came into fruition.

        Ram

        --- On Mon, 4/5/10, John Berger <jberger at well.com> wrote:


          From: John Berger <jberger at well.com>
          Subject: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
          To: naktalk at naks.com
          Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 9:24 PM



          It was the Nak 680 that had the half-speed recording option (and
it would still get 15kHz on the top end).

          My understanding is that Philips (the company who owned the patent
on the compact cassette, and licensed its use) pressured Nak to go to the
single speed.  They also went after B*I*C, with their two speed deck (which
went the other direction of double-speed).   Apparently, part of the license
specified the speed as part of the specs.

          They also specified that the tapes be compatable mono or stereo,
which is why cassettes have left and right channels side by side, instead of
interleaved the way that they are on a reel-to-reel.



          Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 11:23:13 -0500
          From: "d. dickerson" <ddickerson at austin.rr.com>
          Subject: Re: [naktalk] Leaflet
          To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
          Message-ID: <28ca370c3a6589bb358d01887c847287 at austin.rr.com>
          Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

          thanks for the leaflet...well done....

          blurb contained therein about Nak 680ZX reminds of a question
about its
          capability to record/playback with two speeds...had read that
'RIAA' or
          some other sanctioning body had brought action and Nak had had to
          remove two-speed option from all succeeding models...does anyone
have a
          more complete version of that episode?




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From hitech at birch.net  Tue Apr  6 18:56:33 2010
From: hitech at birch.net (tom brucker)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:56:33 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet
In-Reply-To: <663440.56222.qm@web113714.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <JJEILGCDAPDANBMGBKEGOEDECPAA.hitech@birch.net>

John,
 The 700 and 1000 are filled with gold plated edge connectors, and they were
not terribly reliable. Gold alone doesn't insure long term connections, but
it does seem to be an improvement over silver or copper.
    Nakamichi had early experience with plating. When I was in training in
their Santa Monica, CA office in 1978, there was a B&O 4002 anodized black
in the lobby atop their 730 receiver. If you have ever questioned why the
730 footprint was so large, it was designed to support this turntable!

tom brucker
  -----Original Message-----
  From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf
Of John Gipps
  Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 9:20 AM
  To: rpierce000 at centurytel.net
  Cc: naktalk at naks.com
  Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet


  Hi Henry and Bob

  Thanks so much for those scans Henry - while I might have been tempted to
agree with Bob back in the 80s, now as a collector of Nakamichi, I think
it's great that Nakamichi went beyond audio, and created something as unique
as the Limited.

  I'd certainly like to have one on display at my place.

  It's interesting to read the few paragraphs in the article, where the
reasons for using gold are expounded - I have no idea whether Nakamichi
really did give those reasons, or whether it's just the opinion of the
writer. Certainly gold does give reliable connections over long periods,
because it doesn't tarnish readily. But if you were trying to magnetically
shield a head or something by plating it with a high conductivity metal, you
wouldn't choose gold - silver and copper are both much better conductors
than gold, and just a wee bit cheaper. I think in reality, the gold was
there primarily to look great - and it does.

  Regards

  John Gipps



  Message: 4

  Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:43:00 -0700
  From: "Bob Pierce" <rpierce000 at centurytel.net>
  Subject: RE: [naktalk] Leaflet
  To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
  Message-ID: <002301cad522$1d0a0240$571e06c0$@net>
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

  Good grief!



  I have a LOT of respect for NAK decks and saved for a long time for my
  CR-70, but I think that is just a BIT overboard.



  Bob



  From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
  Of name
  Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 7:39 AM
  To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'
  Subject: RE: [naktalk] Leaflet



  Here is something that may be of interest also.

  I scanned this recently.



  Henry.



  http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/3248796/img01.jpg.html



  http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/3248797/img02.jpg.html



  http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/3248798/img03.jpg.html





  From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
  Of Pär Ericsson
  Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 3:08 AM
  To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
  Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet



  Happy Easter all Naktalkers!



  Here comes a fresh scan of a leaflet i found in my basement.



  Pelle.

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From rpierce000 at centurytel.net  Tue Apr  6 19:29:05 2010
From: rpierce000 at centurytel.net (Bob Pierce)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 10:29:05 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
In-Reply-To: <JJEILGCDAPDANBMGBKEGMEDECPAA.hitech@birch.net>
References: <156026.85912.qm@web112702.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<JJEILGCDAPDANBMGBKEGMEDECPAA.hitech@birch.net>
Message-ID: <005b01cad5ae$a9be3080$fd3a9180$@net>

How did Tascam get away with the 4 track units then? Are they just using the
R and L channels on both sides at the same time?

 

Bob

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of tom brucker
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 9:57 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5

 

What if history had been different? What if 1/2 speed cassettes became the
standard? Metal tape would remain in production. A complete CD would fit on
a C-45. Live concerts could fit on one cassette uninterrupted.

 

tom brucker

-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of
shanti ramachandran
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 8:58 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5


John, you are correct.

Phillips was the entity that legally forced Nakamichi to revert to the 1 7/8
speed due to patent violation. 

That is why only the 680 and the 680ZX( normal and auto azimuth adjusting
decks) were the only Naks with half speed capability. 

Interestingly, these were the decks that were perfected before the ZXE and
ZXL decks came into fruition.

Ram

--- On Mon, 4/5/10, John Berger <jberger at well.com> wrote:


From: John Berger <jberger at well.com>
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
To: naktalk at naks.com
Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 9:24 PM


It was the Nak 680 that had the half-speed recording option (and it would
still get 15kHz on the top end).

My understanding is that Philips (the company who owned the patent on the
compact cassette, and licensed its use) pressured Nak to go to the single
speed.  They also went after B*I*C, with their two speed deck (which went
the other direction of double-speed).   Apparently, part of the license
specified the speed as part of the specs.

They also specified that the tapes be compatable mono or stereo, which is
why cassettes have left and right channels side by side, instead of
interleaved the way that they are on a reel-to-reel.



Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 11:23:13 -0500
From: "d. dickerson" <ddickerson at austin.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Leaflet
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID: <28ca370c3a6589bb358d01887c847287 at austin.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

thanks for the leaflet...well done....

blurb contained therein about Nak 680ZX reminds of a question about its
capability to record/playback with two speeds...had read that 'RIAA' or
some other sanctioning body had brought action and Nak had had to
remove two-speed option from all succeeding models...does anyone have a
more complete version of that episode?




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From rpierce000 at centurytel.net  Tue Apr  6 21:51:57 2010
From: rpierce000 at centurytel.net (Bob Pierce)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 12:51:57 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet
In-Reply-To: <JJEILGCDAPDANBMGBKEGOEDECPAA.hitech@birch.net>
References: <663440.56222.qm@web113714.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<JJEILGCDAPDANBMGBKEGOEDECPAA.hitech@birch.net>
Message-ID: <007501cad5c2$9ecff140$dc6fd3c0$@net>

I thought gold was the superior conductor. They certainly think so in the
computer industry. I know that there is enough gold in computers to scavenge
profitably for it.

 

Bob

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of tom brucker
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 9:57 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Leaflet

 

John,

 The 700 and 1000 are filled with gold plated edge connectors, and they were
not terribly reliable. Gold alone doesn't insure long term connections, but
it does seem to be an improvement over silver or copper. 

    Nakamichi had early experience with plating. When I was in training in
their Santa Monica, CA office in 1978, there was a B&O 4002 anodized black
in the lobby atop their 730 receiver. If you have ever questioned why the
730 footprint was so large, it was designed to support this turntable!

 

tom brucker

-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of
John Gipps
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 9:20 AM
To: rpierce000 at centurytel.net
Cc: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet

Hi Henry and Bob

Thanks so much for those scans Henry - while I might have been tempted to
agree with Bob back in the 80s, now as a collector of Nakamichi, I think
it's great that Nakamichi went beyond audio, and created something as unique
as the Limited.

I'd certainly like to have one on display at my place.

It's interesting to read the few paragraphs in the article, where the
reasons for using gold are expounded - I have no idea whether Nakamichi
really did give those reasons, or whether it's just the opinion of the
writer. Certainly gold does give reliable connections over long periods,
because it doesn't tarnish readily. But if you were trying to magnetically
shield a head or something by plating it with a high conductivity metal, you
wouldn't choose gold - silver and copper are both much better conductors
than gold, and just a wee bit cheaper. I think in reality, the gold was
there primarily to look great - and it does.

Regards

John Gipps



Message: 4

Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:43:00 -0700
From: "Bob Pierce" <rpierce000 at centurytel.net>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Leaflet
To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID: <002301cad522$1d0a0240$571e06c0$@net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Good grief!



I have a LOT of respect for NAK decks and saved for a long time for my
CR-70, but I think that is just a BIT overboard.



Bob



From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of name
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 7:39 AM
To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Leaflet



Here is something that may be of interest also.

I scanned this recently.



Henry.



http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/3248796/img01.jpg.html



http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/3248797/img02.jpg.html



http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/3248798/img03.jpg.html





From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Pär Ericsson
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 3:08 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet



Happy Easter all Naktalkers!



Here comes a fresh scan of a leaflet i found in my basement.



Pelle.

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From ronami at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  7 15:54:22 2010
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 06:54:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet
In-Reply-To: <007501cad5c2$9ecff140$dc6fd3c0$@net>
References: <663440.56222.qm@web113714.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<JJEILGCDAPDANBMGBKEGOEDECPAA.hitech@birch.net>
	<007501cad5c2$9ecff140$dc6fd3c0$@net>
Message-ID: <311435.78577.qm@web50402.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


Gold is nothing like a superior conductor and 
nobody thinks so in the computer industry or 
elsewhere. Gold is extensively used because 
it's a 'noble' metal that dos not corrode or 
tarnish. This makes for very high long term 
contact reliability. 

While silver is the best conductor, it quickly 
tarnishes (that is, oxidizes). Silver oxide 
resistivity is very high, so it should only be 
used where contacts can be protected from 
the environment, such as relay contacts. It 
is far inferior to gold in open contacts, such 
as card edge contacts.

Copper is almost as good a conductor as silver 
and doesn't tarnish quite as quickly. Still, it's 
rarely uses as contact material.

Compared to copper, silver or even gold, tin  
is a poor conductor. However, tin is very soft, 
which makes for gas tight (and therefor, very 
reliable) connections. But the same quality 
also makes it subject to wear. It's excellent  
-- at a tiny fraction of the cost of gold -- where 
connectors are inserted and then forgotten, 
such as IC sockets and card edge connectors. 

-- Ron




________________________________
From: Bob Pierce <rpierce000 at centurytel.net>
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Sent: Tue, April 6, 2010 3:51:57 PM
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Leaflet

 
I thought gold was the superior conductor. They certainly think
so in the computer industry. I know that there is enough gold in computers to
scavenge profitably for it.
 
Bob
 
From:naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of tom
brucker
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 9:57 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Leaflet
 
John,
 The 700 and 1000 are filled with gold plated edge connectors,
and they were not terribly reliable. Gold alone doesn't insure long term
connections, but it does seem to be an improvement over silver or copper. 
    Nakamichi had early experience with plating.
When I was in training in their Santa Monica, CA office in 1978, there was a
B&O 4002 anodized black in the lobby atop their 730 receiver. If you have
ever questioned why the 730 footprint was so large, it was designed to support
this turntable!
 
tom brucker
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On
>Behalf Of John Gipps
>Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 9:20 AM
>To: rpierce000 at centurytel.net
>Cc: naktalk at naks.com
>Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet
>>
>Hi Henry
>and Bob
>
>>Thanks so much for those scans Henry - while I might have been tempted to agree
>with Bob back in the 80s, now as a collector of Nakamichi, I think it's great
>that Nakamichi went beyond audio, and created something as unique as the
>Limited.
>
>>I'd certainly like to have one on display at my place.
>
>>It's interesting to read the few paragraphs in the article, where the reasons
>for using gold are expounded - I have no idea whether Nakamichi really did give
>those reasons, or whether it's just the opinion of the writer. Certainly gold
>does give reliable connections over long periods, because it doesn't tarnish
>readily. But if you were trying to magnetically shield a head or something by
>plating it with a high conductivity metal, you wouldn't choose gold - silver and
>copper are both much better conductors than gold, and just a wee bit cheaper. I
>think in reality, the gold was there primarily to look great - and it does.
>
>>Regards
>
>>John Gipps
>
>
>
>>Message: 4
>>
>>
>Date:
>Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:43:00 -0700
>>From: "Bob Pierce" <rpierce000 at centurytel.net>
>>Subject: RE: [naktalk] Leaflet
>>To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
>>Message-ID: <002301cad522$1d0a0240$571e06c0$@net>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>>Good grief!
>
>
>
>>I have a LOT of respect for NAK decks and saved for a long time for my
>>CR-70, but I think that is just a BIT overboard.
>
>
>
>>Bob
>
>
>
>>From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com >[mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]
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>>Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 7:39 AM
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>>Here is something that may be of interest also.
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>>I scanned this recently.
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>>From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com >[mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]
>On Behalf
>>Of Pär Ericsson
>>Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 3:08 AM
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>>Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet
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>>Happy Easter all Naktalkers!
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From johngipps at ymail.com  Wed Apr  7 15:31:05 2010
From: johngipps at ymail.com (John Gipps)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 06:31:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet
In-Reply-To: <201004071017.o37A88WL030175@zxe.naks.com>
References: <201004071017.o37A88WL030175@zxe.naks.com>
Message-ID: <675448.85648.qm@web113702.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>


Hi Bob

Compared to Copper, Gold is about 35% less conductive, and also compared to Copper, Silver is about 6% more conductive.

The computer industry knows that - they can google "electrical conductivity of metals" just as easily as I can - they and the electronics industry in general use gold as a plating (usually over copper) to provide a more reliable contact that doesn't tarnish too readily. 

I also agree with Tom's comment - despite gold plated edge connectors used in the old 700s and 1000s, these decks had a lot of connector problems. But the connector problems took a few years to surface, and were readily fixable by cleaning the edge connectors. The gold plating did give them a number of years of reliable operation before problems occurred. I think it shows that edge connectors in audio equipment are trouble no matter what - later Nakamichi's don't use them, but still have lots of connectors of various types - but with no common connector issues. 

Regards

John Gipps

Message: 6

Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 12:51:57 -0700
From: "Bob Pierce" <rpierce000 at centurytel.net>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Leaflet
To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID: <007501cad5c2$9ecff140$dc6fd3c0$@net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I thought gold was the superior conductor. They certainly think so in the
computer industry. I know that there is enough gold in computers to scavenge
profitably for it.

Bob

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of tom brucker
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 9:57 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Leaflet

John,

The 700 and 1000 are filled with gold plated edge connectors, and they were
not terribly reliable. Gold alone doesn't insure long term connections, but
it does seem to be an improvement over silver or copper. 

    Nakamichi had early experience with plating. When I was in training in
their Santa Monica, CA office in 1978, there was a B&O 4002 anodized black
in the lobby atop their 730 receiver. If you have ever questioned why the
730 footprint was so large, it was designed to support this turntable!



tom brucker

-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of
John Gipps
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 9:20 AM
To: rpierce000 at centurytel.net
Cc: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet

Hi Henry and Bob

Thanks so much for those scans Henry - while I might have been tempted to
agree with Bob back in the 80s, now as a collector of Nakamichi, I think
it's great that Nakamichi went beyond audio, and created something as unique
as the Limited.

I'd certainly like to have one on display at my place.

It's interesting to read the few paragraphs in the article, where the
reasons for using gold are expounded - I have no idea whether Nakamichi
really did give those reasons, or whether it's just the opinion of the
writer. Certainly gold does give reliable connections over long periods,
because it doesn't tarnish readily. But if you were trying to magnetically
shield a head or something by plating it with a high conductivity metal, you
wouldn't choose gold - silver and copper are both much better conductors
than gold, and just a wee bit cheaper. I think in reality, the gold was
there primarily to look great - and it does.

Regards

John Gipps



Message: 4

Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:43:00 -0700
From: "Bob Pierce" <rpierce000 at centurytel.net>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Leaflet
To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID: <002301cad522$1d0a0240$571e06c0$@net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Good grief!



I have a LOT of respect for NAK decks and saved for a long time for my
CR-70, but I think that is just a BIT overboard.



Bob



From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of name
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 7:39 AM
To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Leaflet



Here is something that may be of interest also.

I scanned this recently.



Henry.



http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/3248796/img01.jpg.html



http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/3248797/img02.jpg.html



http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/3248798/img03.jpg.html





From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of PärEricsson
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 3:08 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet



Happy Easter all Naktalkers!



Here comes a fresh scan of a leaflet i found in my basement.



Pelle.

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From hitech at birch.net  Wed Apr  7 16:30:56 2010
From: hitech at birch.net (tom brucker)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 09:30:56 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet
In-Reply-To: <007501cad5c2$9ecff140$dc6fd3c0$@net>
Message-ID: <JJEILGCDAPDANBMGBKEGCEDLCPAA.hitech@birch.net>

In the older Naks, the gold connectors lacked sufficient spring pressure to
maintain contact. The gold did its job, but the presence of gold plating is
never sufficient for adequate connections! Gold plating usuall degrades
sound quality! This dirty little audiophile secret doesn't get nearly enough
publicity. Before plating the gold layer, copper must have 1 or 2 other
materials plated beneath it. Each layer oxidizes slightly, causing weak
diode and battery effects at the contact surfaces between dissimilar metals.
If you look at the information about pure copper binding posts, you'll get
some good information about the evils of plating.  In my perfect world I'd
use solid nickel connectors and binding posts.

tom brucker
  -----Original Message-----
  From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf
Of Bob Pierce
  Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 2:52 PM
  To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'
  Subject: RE: [naktalk] Leaflet


  I thought gold was the superior conductor. They certainly think so in the
computer industry. I know that there is enough gold in computers to scavenge
profitably for it.



  Bob



  From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of tom brucker
  Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 9:57 AM
  To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
  Subject: RE: [naktalk] Leaflet



  John,

   The 700 and 1000 are filled with gold plated edge connectors, and they
were not terribly reliable. Gold alone doesn't insure long term connections,
but it does seem to be an improvement over silver or copper.

      Nakamichi had early experience with plating. When I was in training in
their Santa Monica, CA office in 1978, there was a B&O 4002 anodized black
in the lobby atop their 730 receiver. If you have ever questioned why the
730 footprint was so large, it was designed to support this turntable!



  tom brucker

    -----Original Message-----
    From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On
Behalf Of John Gipps
    Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 9:20 AM
    To: rpierce000 at centurytel.net
    Cc: naktalk at naks.com
    Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet

    Hi Henry and Bob

    Thanks so much for those scans Henry - while I might have been tempted
to agree with Bob back in the 80s, now as a collector of Nakamichi, I think
it's great that Nakamichi went beyond audio, and created something as unique
as the Limited.

    I'd certainly like to have one on display at my place.

    It's interesting to read the few paragraphs in the article, where the
reasons for using gold are expounded - I have no idea whether Nakamichi
really did give those reasons, or whether it's just the opinion of the
writer. Certainly gold does give reliable connections over long periods,
because it doesn't tarnish readily. But if you were trying to magnetically
shield a head or something by plating it with a high conductivity metal, you
wouldn't choose gold - silver and copper are both much better conductors
than gold, and just a wee bit cheaper. I think in reality, the gold was
there primarily to look great - and it does.

    Regards

    John Gipps



    Message: 4

    Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:43:00 -0700
    From: "Bob Pierce" <rpierce000 at centurytel.net>
    Subject: RE: [naktalk] Leaflet
    To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
    Message-ID: <002301cad522$1d0a0240$571e06c0$@net>
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

    Good grief!



    I have a LOT of respect for NAK decks and saved for a long time for my
    CR-70, but I think that is just a BIT overboard.



    Bob



    From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On
Behalf
    Of name
    Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 7:39 AM
    To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'
    Subject: RE: [naktalk] Leaflet



    Here is something that may be of interest also.

    I scanned this recently.



    Henry.



    http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/3248796/img01.jpg.html



    http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/3248797/img02.jpg.html



    http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/3248798/img03.jpg.html





    From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On
Behalf
    Of Pär Ericsson
    Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 3:08 AM
    To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
    Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet



    Happy Easter all Naktalkers!



    Here comes a fresh scan of a leaflet i found in my basement.



    Pelle.

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From hitech at birch.net  Wed Apr  7 16:30:57 2010
From: hitech at birch.net (tom brucker)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 09:30:57 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
In-Reply-To: <005b01cad5ae$a9be3080$fd3a9180$@net>
Message-ID: <JJEILGCDAPDANBMGBKEGEEDLCPAA.hitech@birch.net>

As I understand it the Philips cassette patents specified the speed, but not
the number of tracks. Remember, cassette was introduced as a mono format.
Ampex introduced stereo cassette recorders, and then Nakamichi made the
stereo hi fidelity.
I also never understood why 1/2 speed was nixed but double speed was
allowed.

tom brucker
  -----Original Message-----
  From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf
Of Bob Pierce
  Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 12:29 PM
  To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'
  Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5


  How did Tascam get away with the 4 track units then? Are they just using
the R and L channels on both sides at the same time?



  Bob



  From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of tom brucker
  Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 9:57 AM
  To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
  Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5



  What if history had been different? What if 1/2 speed cassettes became the
standard? Metal tape would remain in production. A complete CD would fit on
a C-45. Live concerts could fit on one cassette uninterrupted.



  tom brucker

    -----Original Message-----
    From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On
Behalf Of shanti ramachandran
    Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 8:58 AM
    To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
    Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5

          John, you are correct.

          Phillips was the entity that legally forced Nakamichi to revert to
the 1 7/8 speed due to patent violation.

          That is why only the 680 and the 680ZX( normal and auto azimuth
adjusting decks) were the only Naks with half speed capability.

          Interestingly, these were the decks that were perfected before the
ZXE and ZXL decks came into fruition.

          Ram

          --- On Mon, 4/5/10, John Berger <jberger at well.com> wrote:


          From: John Berger <jberger at well.com>
          Subject: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
          To: naktalk at naks.com
          Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 9:24 PM


          It was the Nak 680 that had the half-speed recording option (and
it would still get 15kHz on the top end).

          My understanding is that Philips (the company who owned the patent
on the compact cassette, and licensed its use) pressured Nak to go to the
single speed.  They also went after B*I*C, with their two speed deck (which
went the other direction of double-speed).   Apparently, part of the license
specified the speed as part of the specs.

          They also specified that the tapes be compatable mono or stereo,
which is why cassettes have left and right channels side by side, instead of
interleaved the way that they are on a reel-to-reel.



          Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 11:23:13 -0500
          From: "d. dickerson" <ddickerson at austin.rr.com>
          Subject: Re: [naktalk] Leaflet
          To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
          Message-ID: <28ca370c3a6589bb358d01887c847287 at austin.rr.com>
          Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

          thanks for the leaflet...well done....

          blurb contained therein about Nak 680ZX reminds of a question
about its
          capability to record/playback with two speeds...had read that
'RIAA' or
          some other sanctioning body had brought action and Nak had had to
          remove two-speed option from all succeeding models...does anyone
have a
          more complete version of that episode?




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From rjkent at comcast.net  Wed Apr  7 17:44:03 2010
From: rjkent at comcast.net (rjkent at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:44:03 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Electrical Conductivity
In-Reply-To: <201004071009.o37A88WK030175@zxe.naks.com>
References: <201004071009.o37A88WK030175@zxe.naks.com>
Message-ID: <004b01cad669$2c2346e0$8469d4a0$@net>

John is correct.....silver has about 50% better electrical conductivity
than gold. Copper is in between the two.  Robert Kent

Hi Henry and Bob
It's interesting to read the few paragraphs in the article, where the
reasons for using gold are expounded - I have no idea whether Nakamichi
really did give those reasons, or whether it's just the opinion of the
writer. Certainly gold does give reliable connections over long periods,
because it doesn't tarnish readily. But if you were trying to
magnetically shield a head or something by plating it with a high
conductivity metal, you wouldn't choose gold - silver and copper are
both much better conductors than gold, and just a wee bit cheaper. I
think in reality, the gold was there primarily to look great - and it
does.
John Gipps

I thought gold was the superior conductor. They certainly think so in
the
computer industry. I know that there is enough gold in computers to
scavenge
profitably for it.
Bob

 
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From bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr  Wed Apr  7 17:13:21 2010
From: bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr (boitrel)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:13:21 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Torque tuning via VR601
Message-ID: <4BBCA111.8040300@univ-rennes1.fr>

Hi everyone,

To decrease torque of the reel motor, should VR601 be turned CW or CCW?

thanks
bernard



From MarkH at Holaday.com  Wed Apr  7 19:37:44 2010
From: MarkH at Holaday.com (Mark Hyer)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 12:37:44 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet
In-Reply-To: <JJEILGCDAPDANBMGBKEGCEDLCPAA.hitech@birch.net>
References: <007501cad5c2$9ecff140$dc6fd3c0$@net>
	<JJEILGCDAPDANBMGBKEGCEDLCPAA.hitech@birch.net>
Message-ID: <E7DE9EAAE1531C4C9EFCFE99A323B1FC35184406B4@Z-Exchange.hci.local>

Good afternoon Tom,

I have to agree  with your statements that gold is not necessarily the best connector surface. However, there may be a problem with your perfect world and that is Nickel exhibits magnetic properties.

Mark Hyer



From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of tom brucker
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 9:31 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Leaflet

In the older Naks, the gold connectors lacked sufficient spring pressure to maintain contact. The gold did its job, but the presence of gold plating is never sufficient for adequate connections! Gold plating usuall degrades sound quality! This dirty little audiophile secret doesn't get nearly enough publicity. Before plating the gold layer, copper must have 1 or 2 other materials plated beneath it. Each layer oxidizes slightly, causing weak diode and battery effects at the contact surfaces between dissimilar metals. If you look at the information about pure copper binding posts, you'll get some good information about the evils of plating.  In my perfect world I'd use solid nickel connectors and binding posts.

tom brucker
-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Bob Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 2:52 PM
To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Leaflet
I thought gold was the superior conductor. They certainly think so in the computer industry. I know that there is enough gold in computers to scavenge profitably for it.

Bob

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of tom brucker
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 9:57 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Leaflet

John,
 The 700 and 1000 are filled with gold plated edge connectors, and they were not terribly reliable. Gold alone doesn't insure long term connections, but it does seem to be an improvement over silver or copper.
    Nakamichi had early experience with plating. When I was in training in their Santa Monica, CA office in 1978, there was a B&O 4002 anodized black in the lobby atop their 730 receiver. If you have ever questioned why the 730 footprint was so large, it was designed to support this turntable!

tom brucker
-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of John Gipps
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 9:20 AM
To: rpierce000 at centurytel.net
Cc: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet
Hi Henry and Bob

Thanks so much for those scans Henry - while I might have been tempted to agree with Bob back in the 80s, now as a collector of Nakamichi, I think it's great that Nakamichi went beyond audio, and created something as unique as the Limited.

I'd certainly like to have one on display at my place.

It's interesting to read the few paragraphs in the article, where the reasons for using gold are expounded - I have no idea whether Nakamichi really did give those reasons, or whether it's just the opinion of the writer. Certainly gold does give reliable connections over long periods, because it doesn't tarnish readily. But if you were trying to magnetically shield a head or something by plating it with a high conductivity metal, you wouldn't choose gold - silver and copper are both much better conductors than gold, and just a wee bit cheaper. I think in reality, the gold was there primarily to look great - and it does.

Regards

John Gipps



Message: 4
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:43:00 -0700
From: "Bob Pierce" <rpierce000 at centurytel.net<mailto:rpierce000 at centurytel.net>>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Leaflet
To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com<mailto:naktalk at naks.com>>
Message-ID: <002301cad522$1d0a0240$571e06c0$@net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Good grief!



I have a LOT of respect for NAK decks and saved for a long time for my
CR-70, but I think that is just a BIT overboard.



Bob



From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com>] On Behalf
Of name
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 7:39 AM
To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Leaflet



Here is something that may be of interest also.

I scanned this recently.



Henry.



http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/3248796/img01.jpg.html



http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/3248797/img02.jpg.html



http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/3248798/img03.jpg.html





From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com>] On Behalf
Of Pär Ericsson
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 3:08 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: [naktalk] Leaflet



Happy Easter all Naktalkers!



Here comes a fresh scan of a leaflet i found in my basement.



Pelle.

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From MarkH at Holaday.com  Wed Apr  7 19:47:15 2010
From: MarkH at Holaday.com (Mark Hyer)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 12:47:15 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Electrical Conductivity
In-Reply-To: <004b01cad669$2c2346e0$8469d4a0$@net>
References: <201004071009.o37A88WK030175@zxe.naks.com>
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Message-ID: <E7DE9EAAE1531C4C9EFCFE99A323B1FC35184406B8@Z-Exchange.hci.local>

Hello Henry and Bob,

They chose gold because of the conductivity, and gold is tarnish resistant. Copper oxidizes readily and would require constant maintenance. Silver is the most conductive metal but with heat, voltage/current and humidity/moisture it will grow whiskers like nobody's business resulting in shorts. 

If one could insulate the silver connections preventing the humidity silver would be great but terrible if you need to work on it in the future.

If you are using any of the new hard drives the flexure and gimbals (arm between the motor and reader) have pure encapsulated silver traces instead of the copper trace plated with gold over nickel. Nickel is used strictly as a diffusion barrier to prevent cooper migration and the copper-gold intermetalic from forming.

Best wishes
Mark Hyer

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:44 AM
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] Electrical Conductivity

John is correct.....silver has about 50% better electrical conductivity
than gold. Copper is in between the two.  Robert Kent

Hi Henry and Bob
It's interesting to read the few paragraphs in the article, where the
reasons for using gold are expounded - I have no idea whether Nakamichi
really did give those reasons, or whether it's just the opinion of the
writer. Certainly gold does give reliable connections over long periods,
because it doesn't tarnish readily. But if you were trying to
magnetically shield a head or something by plating it with a high
conductivity metal, you wouldn't choose gold - silver and copper are
both much better conductors than gold, and just a wee bit cheaper. I
think in reality, the gold was there primarily to look great - and it
does.
John Gipps

I thought gold was the superior conductor. They certainly think so in
the
computer industry. I know that there is enough gold in computers to
scavenge
profitably for it.
Bob

 
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From luis at peromarta.org  Wed Apr  7 22:15:11 2010
From: luis at peromarta.org (Luis Peromarta Regert)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 22:15:11 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Torque tuning via VR601
In-Reply-To: <4BBCA111.8040300@univ-rennes1.fr>
References: <4BBCA111.8040300@univ-rennes1.fr>
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What deck?

Enviado desde mi iPhone

El 07/04/2010, a las 17:13, boitrel <bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr>  
escribió:

> Hi everyone,
>
> To decrease torque of the reel motor, should VR601 be turned CW or  
> CCW?
>
> thanks
> bernard
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From shantiram2000 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  8 00:05:13 2010
From: shantiram2000 at yahoo.com (shanti ramachandran)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 15:05:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
In-Reply-To: <JJEILGCDAPDANBMGBKEGEEDLCPAA.hitech@birch.net>
Message-ID: <765990.5808.qm@web112701.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

To sell more cassette tapes, perhaps Tom>>?? Phillips was in the cassette making business too, so they looked the other way at higher speed machines.

Just speculating here...

Ram

--- On Wed, 4/7/10, tom brucker <hitech at birch.net> wrote:

From: tom brucker <hitech at birch.net>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 10:30 AM



 
 
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As I 
understand it the Philips cassette patents specified the speed, but not the 
number of tracks. Remember, cassette was introduced as a mono format. Ampex 
introduced stereo cassette recorders, and then Nakamichi made the stereo hi 
fidelity.
I also 
never understood why 1/2 speed was nixed but double speed was 
allowed.
 
tom 
brucker

  -----Original Message-----
From: 
  naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of 
  Bob Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 12:29 PM
To: 
  'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: 
  Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5


  
  How 
  did Tascam get away with the 4 track units then? Are they just using the R and 
  L channels on both sides at the same time? 
     
  Bob 
     
  
  
  From: 
  naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of 
  tom brucker
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 9:57 AM
To: 
  Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: 
  Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5 
     
  
  What 
  if history had been different? What if 1/2 speed cassettes became the 
  standard? Metal tape would remain in production. A complete CD would fit on a 
  C-45. Live concerts could fit on one cassette 
  uninterrupted. 
  
    
  
  tom 
  brucker 
  
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    Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com 
    [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of shanti 
    ramachandran
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 8:58 AM
To: 
    Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: 
    Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5 
    
      
      
        
          John, you are correct.

Phillips was the 
          entity that legally forced Nakamichi to revert to the 1 7/8 speed due 
          to patent violation. 

That is why only the 680 and the 680ZX( 
          normal and auto azimuth adjusting decks) were the only Naks with half 
          speed capability. 

Interestingly, these were the decks that 
          were perfected before the ZXE and ZXL decks came into 
          fruition.

Ram

--- On Mon, 4/5/10, John Berger 
          <jberger at well.com> wrote: 
          
From: John Berger 
          <jberger at well.com>
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 
          86, Issue 5
To: naktalk at naks.com
Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 
          9:24 PM 
          
          
It was the Nak 680 that had the half-speed 
          recording option (and it would still get 15kHz on the top 
          end).

My understanding is that Philips (the company who owned 
          the patent on the compact cassette, and licensed its use) pressured 
          Nak to go to the single speed.  They also went after B*I*C, with 
          their two speed deck (which went the other direction of 
          double-speed).   Apparently, part of the license 
          specified the speed as part of the specs.

They also specified 
          that the tapes be compatable mono or stereo, which is why cassettes 
          have left and right channels side by side, instead of interleaved the 
          way that they are on a reel-to-reel.



Date: Sun, 4 Apr 
          2010 11:23:13 -0500
From: "d. dickerson" <ddickerson at austin.rr.com>
Subject: 
          Re: [naktalk] Leaflet
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
          <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID: 
          <28ca370c3a6589bb358d01887c847287 at austin.rr.com>
Content-Type: 
          text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

thanks for the leaflet...well 
          done....

blurb contained therein about Nak 680ZX reminds of a 
          question about its
capability to record/playback with two 
          speeds...had read that 'RIAA' or
some other sanctioning body had 
          brought action and Nak had had to
remove two-speed option from all 
          succeeding models...does anyone have a
more complete version of 
          that 
          episode?




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From bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr  Thu Apr  8 09:35:27 2010
From: bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr (boitrel)
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:35:27 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Torque tuning via VR601
In-Reply-To: <ABE4F929-1A67-4EB0-B796-2DC65BA79030@peromarta.org>
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cr7 (after gear upgrade) and BX-300E

Luis Peromarta Regert a écrit :
> What deck?
> 
> Enviado desde mi iPhone
> 
> El 07/04/2010, a las 17:13, boitrel <bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr> 
> escribió:
> 
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> To decrease torque of the reel motor, should VR601 be turned CW or CCW?
>>
>> thanks
>> bernard
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From DundisA at zhi.com  Thu Apr  8 13:51:03 2010
From: DundisA at zhi.com (Dundis, Andy)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 05:51:03 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
In-Reply-To: <765990.5808.qm@web112701.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <JJEILGCDAPDANBMGBKEGEEDLCPAA.hitech@birch.net>
	<765990.5808.qm@web112701.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <458FC5C7269F8B4A95C782DB2CED6E7D08F7B3D6@ued8.UE.com>

Would a double speed tape machine not yield a higher quality
recording??? This is/was typically the case in the recording industry. I
would think it preferable to have an option for double speed rather than
half speed for this reason. Wouter, any input on this subject?

Andy

 

________________________________

From: shanti ramachandran [mailto:shantiram2000 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 5:05 PM
To: hitech at birch.net; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5

 

To sell more cassette tapes, perhaps Tom>>?? Phillips was in the
cassette making business too, so they looked the other way at higher
speed machines.

Just speculating here...

Ram

--- On Wed, 4/7/10, tom brucker <hitech at birch.net> wrote:


From: tom brucker <hitech at birch.net>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 10:30 AM

As I understand it the Philips cassette patents specified the speed, but
not the number of tracks. Remember, cassette was introduced as a mono
format. Ampex introduced stereo cassette recorders, and then Nakamichi
made the stereo hi fidelity.

I also never understood why 1/2 speed was nixed but double speed was
allowed.

 

tom brucker

	-----Original Message-----
	From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com
[mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Bob Pierce
	Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 12:29 PM
	To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'
	Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5

	How did Tascam get away with the 4 track units then? Are they
just using the R and L channels on both sides at the same time?

	 

	Bob

	 

	From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]
On Behalf Of tom brucker
	Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 9:57 AM
	To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
	Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5

	 

	What if history had been different? What if 1/2 speed cassettes
became the standard? Metal tape would remain in production. A complete
CD would fit on a C-45. Live concerts could fit on one cassette
uninterrupted.

	 

	tom brucker

		-----Original Message-----
		From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com
[mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of shanti ramachandran
		Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 8:58 AM
		To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
		Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue
5

John, you are correct.

Phillips was the entity that legally forced Nakamichi to revert to the 1
7/8 speed due to patent violation. 

That is why only the 680 and the 680ZX( normal and auto azimuth
adjusting decks) were the only Naks with half speed capability. 

Interestingly, these were the decks that were perfected before the ZXE
and ZXL decks came into fruition.

Ram

--- On Mon, 4/5/10, John Berger <jberger at well.com> wrote:


From: John Berger <jberger at well.com>
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
To: naktalk at naks.com
Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 9:24 PM


It was the Nak 680 that had the half-speed recording option (and it
would still get 15kHz on the top end).

My understanding is that Philips (the company who owned the patent on
the compact cassette, and licensed its use) pressured Nak to go to the
single speed.  They also went after B*I*C, with their two speed deck
(which went the other direction of double-speed).   Apparently, part of
the license specified the speed as part of the specs.

They also specified that the tapes be compatable mono or stereo, which
is why cassettes have left and right channels side by side, instead of
interleaved the way that they are on a reel-to-reel.



Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 11:23:13 -0500
From: "d. dickerson" <ddickerson at austin.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Leaflet
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID: <28ca370c3a6589bb358d01887c847287 at austin.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

thanks for the leaflet...well done....

blurb contained therein about Nak 680ZX reminds of a question about its
capability to record/playback with two speeds...had read that 'RIAA' or
some other sanctioning body had brought action and Nak had had to
remove two-speed option from all succeeding models...does anyone have a
more complete version of that episode?




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From lenaw at flash.net  Thu Apr  8 16:05:19 2010
From: lenaw at flash.net (LENA WONG)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
In-Reply-To: <458FC5C7269F8B4A95C782DB2CED6E7D08F7B3D6@ued8.UE.com>
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Yes, just looks at BIC and TEAC's C2-X anc C3-X. However, the recording time will cut into half.  I will prefer double-speed rather than half-speed for performance. 
 
Double-Speed might wear out the head quicker but Nak's pad-lifter will help to offset this dis-advantage; I guess.
 
 
Mike


--- On Thu, 4/8/10, Dundis, Andy <DundisA at zhi.com> wrote:


From: Dundis, Andy <DundisA at zhi.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
To: naktalk at naks.com
Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 6:51 AM








Would a double speed tape machine not yield a higher quality recording??? This is/was typically the case in the recording industry. I would think it preferable to have an option for double speed rather than half speed for this reason. Wouter, any input on this subject?
Andy
 




From: shanti ramachandran [mailto:shantiram2000 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 5:05 PM
To: hitech at birch.net; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
 




To sell more cassette tapes, perhaps Tom>>?? Phillips was in the cassette making business too, so they looked the other way at higher speed machines.

Just speculating here...

Ram

--- On Wed, 4/7/10, tom brucker <hitech at birch.net> wrote:

From: tom brucker <hitech at birch.net>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
To: " Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks " < naktalk at naks.com >
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 10:30 AM


As I understand it the Philips cassette patents specified the speed, but not the number of tracks. Remember, cassette was introduced as a mono format. Ampex introduced stereo cassette recorders, and then Nakamichi made the stereo hi fidelity.

I also never understood why 1/2 speed was nixed but double speed was allowed.

 

tom brucker

-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of Bob Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 12:29 PM
To: ' Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks '
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5

How did Tascam get away with the 4 track units then? Are they just using the R and L channels on both sides at the same time?
 
Bob
 


From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of tom brucker
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 9:57 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
 

What if history had been different? What if 1/2 speed cassettes became the standard? Metal tape would remain in production. A complete CD would fit on a C-45. Live concerts could fit on one cassette uninterrupted.

 

tom brucker

-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf Of shanti ramachandran
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 8:58 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5




John, you are correct.

Phillips was the entity that legally forced Nakamichi to revert to the 1 7/8 speed due to patent violation. 

That is why only the 680 and the 680ZX( normal and auto azimuth adjusting decks) were the only Naks with half speed capability. 

Interestingly, these were the decks that were perfected before the ZXE and ZXL decks came into fruition.

Ram

--- On Mon, 4/5/10, John Berger <jberger at well.com> wrote:

From: John Berger <jberger at well.com>
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
To: naktalk at naks.com
Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 9:24 PM


It was the Nak 680 that had the half-speed recording option (and it would still get 15kHz on the top end).

My understanding is that Philips (the company who owned the patent on the compact cassette, and licensed its use) pressured Nak to go to the single speed.  They also went after B*I*C, with their two speed deck (which went the other direction of double-speed).   Apparently, part of the license specified the speed as part of the specs.

They also specified that the tapes be compatable mono or stereo, which is why cassettes have left and right channels side by side, instead of interleaved the way that they are on a reel-to-reel.



Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 11:23:13 -0500
From: "d. dickerson" <ddickerson at austin.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Leaflet
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks < naktalk at naks.com >
Message-ID: <28ca370c3a6589bb358d01887c847287 at austin.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

thanks for the leaflet...well done....

blurb contained therein about Nak 680ZX reminds of a question about its
capability to record/playback with two speeds...had read that 'RIAA' or
some other sanctioning body had brought action and Nak had had to
remove two-speed option from all succeeding models...does anyone have a
more complete version of that episode?




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From luis at peromarta.org  Thu Apr  8 16:06:10 2010
From: luis at peromarta.org (Luis Peromarta Regert)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 16:06:10 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Torque tuning via VR601
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I do not remember. I suggest you use you finger-torque meter: put you fingers on the hub, and see ;)

LP.

El 08/04/2010, a las 09:35, boitrel escribió:

> cr7 (after gear upgrade) and BX-300E
> 
> Luis Peromarta Regert a écrit :
>> What deck?
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone
>> El 07/04/2010, a las 17:13, boitrel <bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr> escribió:
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> To decrease torque of the reel motor, should VR601 be turned CW or CCW?
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> bernard
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From bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr  Fri Apr  9 10:55:07 2010
From: bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr (boitrel)
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 10:55:07 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Torque tuning via VR601
In-Reply-To: <4C04CCDA-B986-4D49-B3EE-C1026AAF3C20@peromarta.org>
References: <4BBCA111.8040300@univ-rennes1.fr>	<ABE4F929-1A67-4EB0-B796-2DC65BA79030@peromarta.org>	<4BBD873F.8030400@univ-rennes1.fr>
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Well, according to my finger-torque meter and although it is not that 
obvious to sense, I found that turning CCW decreases the torque.

bernard

Luis Peromarta Regert a écrit :
> I do not remember. I suggest you use you finger-torque meter: put you fingers on the hub, and see ;)
> 
> LP.
> 
> El 08/04/2010, a las 09:35, boitrel escribió:
> 
>> cr7 (after gear upgrade) and BX-300E
>>
>> Luis Peromarta Regert a écrit :
>>> What deck?
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone
>>> El 07/04/2010, a las 17:13, boitrel <bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr> escribió:
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> To decrease torque of the reel motor, should VR601 be turned CW or CCW?
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>> bernard
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From claude-bonnafous at wanadoo.fr  Fri Apr  9 13:25:01 2010
From: claude-bonnafous at wanadoo.fr (Claude BONNAFOUS)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 13:25:01 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Torque tuning via VR601
Message-ID: <D9D06C8059C64899A6A9DA49BFB8DB13@CLO2842>

Hi Bernard ,

                I don't remember: I would suggest measuring tension on reel motor -about 3 volt- then move the pot just a little and see what happens.

                Just my deux centimes d'Euro.
                             Amitiés.
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From shantiram2000 at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 10 00:35:51 2010
From: shantiram2000 at yahoo.com (shanti ramachandran)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 15:35:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
In-Reply-To: <458FC5C7269F8B4A95C782DB2CED6E7D08F7B3D6@ued8.UE.com>
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Andy,

I can understand your need for a double speed machine.. However, the low end response would not be as good. It may ( will) rise to 30Hz instead of the 20hz. standard  due to higher speed. 

Look at reel to reel machines. Even the mighty SONY TC-880-2 could not go beyond 25Hz....

Ram


--- On Thu, 4/8/10, Dundis, Andy <DundisA at zhi.com> wrote:

From: Dundis, Andy <DundisA at zhi.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
To: naktalk at naks.com
Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 7:51 AM




 
 

 







Would a double speed tape machine not yield
a higher quality recording??? This is/was typically the case in the recording
industry. I would think it preferable to have an option for double speed rather
than half speed for this reason. Wouter, any input on this subject? 

Andy 

   









From: shanti
ramachandran [mailto:shantiram2000 at yahoo.com] 

Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010
5:05 PM

To: hitech at birch.net;
 Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks

Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk
Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5 



   


 
  
  To sell more cassette tapes, perhaps Tom>>??
  Phillips was in the cassette making business too, so they looked the other
  way at higher speed machines.

  

  Just speculating here...

  

  Ram

  

  --- On Wed, 4/7/10, tom brucker <hitech at birch.net>
  wrote: 
  

  From: tom brucker <hitech at birch.net>

  Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5

  To: " Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks "
  < naktalk at naks.com >

  Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 10:30 AM 
  
  
  As I understand it the Philips cassette
  patents specified the speed, but not the number of tracks. Remember, cassette
  was introduced as a mono format. Ampex introduced stereo cassette recorders,
  and then Nakamichi made the stereo hi fidelity. 
  
  
  I also never understood why 1/2 speed
  was nixed but double speed was allowed. 
  
  
    
  
  
  tom brucker 
  
  
  -----Original Message-----

  From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com
  [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf
  Of Bob Pierce

  Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010
  12:29 PM

  To: ' Talk
   about Nakamichi Cassette Decks '

  Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re:
  Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5 
  
  How did Tascam get away with the 4 track units then? Are
  they just using the R and L channels on both sides at the same time? 
    
  Bob 
    
  
  
  From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com
  [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
  Of tom brucker

  Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010
  9:57 AM

  To: Talk
   about Nakamichi Cassette Decks

  Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re:
  Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5 
  
  
    
  
  What if history had been different? What if 1/2 speed cassettes
  became the standard? Metal tape would remain in production. A complete CD
  would fit on a C-45. Live concerts could fit on one cassette uninterrupted. 
  
  
    
  
  
  tom brucker 
  
  
  -----Original
  Message-----

  From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com
  [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf
  Of shanti ramachandran

  Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010
  8:58 AM

  To: Talk
   about Nakamichi Cassette Decks

  Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re:
  Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5 
  
   
    
    John,
    you are correct.

    

    Phillips was the entity that legally forced Nakamichi to revert to the 1
    7/8 speed due to patent violation. 

    

    That is why only the 680 and the 680ZX( normal and auto azimuth adjusting
    decks) were the only Naks with half speed capability. 

    

    Interestingly, these were the decks that were perfected before the ZXE and
    ZXL decks came into fruition.

    

    Ram

    

    --- On Mon, 4/5/10, John Berger <jberger at well.com>
    wrote: 
    

    From: John Berger <jberger at well.com>

    Subject: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5

    To: naktalk at naks.com

    Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 9:24 PM 
    
    

    It was the Nak 680 that had the half-speed recording option (and it would
    still get 15kHz on the top end).

    

    My understanding is that Philips (the company who owned the patent on the
    compact cassette, and licensed its use) pressured Nak to go to the single
    speed.  They also went after B*I*C, with their two speed deck (which
    went the other direction of double-speed).   Apparently,
    part of the license specified the speed as part of the specs.

    

    They also specified that the tapes be compatable mono or stereo, which is
    why cassettes have left and right channels side by side, instead of
    interleaved the way that they are on a reel-to-reel.

    

    

    

    Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 11:23:13 -0500

    From: "d. dickerson" <ddickerson at austin.rr.com>

    Subject: Re: [naktalk] Leaflet

    To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
    < naktalk at naks.com >

    Message-ID: <28ca370c3a6589bb358d01887c847287 at austin.rr.com>

    Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

    

    thanks for the leaflet...well done....

    

    blurb contained therein about Nak 680ZX reminds of a question about its

    capability to record/playback with two speeds...had read that 'RIAA' or

    some other sanctioning body had brought action and Nak had had to

    remove two-speed option from all succeeding models...does anyone have a

    more complete version of that episode?

    

    

    

    

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From willy at willyhermannservices.com  Sat Apr 10 07:19:05 2010
From: willy at willyhermannservices.com (Willy Hermann)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 21:19:05 -0800
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
In-Reply-To: <877912.68470.qm@web112711.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <458FC5C7269F8B4A95C782DB2CED6E7D08F7B3D6@ued8.UE.com>
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That's not the case.  A professional open reel machine is capable of full
(20-20KHz) response at up to 15ips.  It isn't until you get to 30ips that
the low frequency response begins to be sacrificed.  The biggest difference
between an open reel cassette deck is head room.  A professional machine
(1/8" of tape per track) will be able to record and play full frequency at
0dB - even somewhat above for the better machines.

Willy

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 2:35 PM, shanti ramachandran <shantiram2000 at yahoo.com
> wrote:

> Andy,
>
> I can understand your need for a double speed machine.. However, the low
> end response would not be as good. It may ( will) rise to 30Hz instead of
> the 20hz. standard  due to higher speed.
>
> Look at reel to reel machines. Even the mighty SONY TC-880-2 could not go
> beyond 25Hz....
>
> Ram
>
>
> --- On *Thu, 4/8/10, Dundis, Andy <DundisA at zhi.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Dundis, Andy <DundisA at zhi.com>
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 7:51 AM
>
>  Would a double speed tape machine not yield a higher quality recording???
> This is/was typically the case in the recording industry. I would think it
> preferable to have an option for double speed rather than half speed for
> this reason. Wouter, any input on this subject?
>
> Andy
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* shanti ramachandran [mailto:shantiram2000 at yahoo.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 07, 2010 5:05 PM
> *To:* hitech at birch.net; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* RE: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
>
>
>
> To sell more cassette tapes, perhaps Tom>>?? Phillips was in the cassette
> making business too, so they looked the other way at higher speed machines.
>
> Just speculating here...
>
> Ram
>
> --- On *Wed, 4/7/10, tom brucker <hitech at birch.net>* wrote:
>
>
> From: tom brucker <hitech at birch.net>
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
> To: " Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks " < naktalk at naks.com >
> Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 10:30 AM
>
> As I understand it the Philips cassette patents specified the speed, but
> not the number of tracks. Remember, cassette was introduced as a mono
> format. Ampex introduced stereo cassette recorders, and then Nakamichi made
> the stereo hi fidelity.
>
> I also never understood why 1/2 speed was nixed but double speed was
> allowed.
>
>
>
> tom brucker
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]*On
> Behalf Of *Bob Pierce
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 06, 2010 12:29 PM
> *To:* ' Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks '
> *Subject:* RE: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
>
> How did Tascam get away with the 4 track units then? Are they just using
> the R and L channels on both sides at the same time?
>
>
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> *From:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] *On
> Behalf Of *tom brucker
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 06, 2010 9:57 AM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* RE: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
>
>
>
> What if history had been different? What if 1/2 speed cassettes became the
> standard? Metal tape would remain in production. A complete CD would fit on
> a C-45. Live concerts could fit on one cassette uninterrupted.
>
>
>
> tom brucker
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]*On
> Behalf Of *shanti ramachandran
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 06, 2010 8:58 AM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
>
> John, you are correct.
>
> Phillips was the entity that legally forced Nakamichi to revert to the 1
> 7/8 speed due to patent violation.
>
> That is why only the 680 and the 680ZX( normal and auto azimuth adjusting
> decks) were the only Naks with half speed capability.
>
> Interestingly, these were the decks that were perfected before the ZXE and
> ZXL decks came into fruition.
>
> Ram
>
> --- On *Mon, 4/5/10, John Berger <jberger at well.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: John Berger <jberger at well.com>
> Subject: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 9:24 PM
>
>
> It was the Nak 680 that had the half-speed recording option (and it would
> still get 15kHz on the top end).
>
> My understanding is that Philips (the company who owned the patent on the
> compact cassette, and licensed its use) pressured Nak to go to the single
> speed.  They also went after B*I*C, with their two speed deck (which went
> the other direction of double-speed).   Apparently, part of the license
> specified the speed as part of the specs.
>
> They also specified that the tapes be compatable mono or stereo, which is
> why cassettes have left and right channels side by side, instead of
> interleaved the way that they are on a reel-to-reel.
>
>
>
> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 11:23:13 -0500
> From: "d. dickerson" <ddickerson at austin.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Leaflet
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks < naktalk at naks.com >
> Message-ID: <28ca370c3a6589bb358d01887c847287 at austin.rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> thanks for the leaflet...well done....
>
> blurb contained therein about Nak 680ZX reminds of a question about its
> capability to record/playback with two speeds...had read that 'RIAA' or
> some other sanctioning body had brought action and Nak had had to
> remove two-speed option from all succeeding models...does anyone have a
> more complete version of that episode?
>
>
>
>
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From luis at peromarta.org  Sat Apr 10 09:35:50 2010
From: luis at peromarta.org (Luis Peromarta Regert)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 09:35:50 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] NOW, FACTORY CAPSTAN BELTS FOR  *ALL  NAKAMICHI MODELS
In-Reply-To: <4B86BAAA.5070300@marrscom.com>
References: <4B86BAAA.5070300@marrscom.com>
Message-ID: <5A873267-D9A9-45F2-930F-9C07B1060B44@peromarta.org>

Hi Fred,

looking for a couple of belt sets for classic transport + azimuth. Could you please send me a paypal invoice to luis at peromarta.org ?

Still doing some discount to service centers, I guess ?

Thanks and best rgds, LP.



El 25/02/2010, a las 19:00, Fred Marrs escribió:

> 2/25/10
> 
> Hope everyone is well !
> 
> Just a short note: Factory Capstan Belts are now available for ALL Nakamichi
> 
> Models, ( except OCO 3668 and OCO 5333 ).  600 and 1000 etc.
> 
> All Factory Capstan Belts and Factory Kits, can be found in my eBay Store.
> 
> Thanks Much !  Fred  M. 
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From shantiram2000 at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 10 16:54:39 2010
From: shantiram2000 at yahoo.com (shanti ramachandran)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 07:54:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
In-Reply-To: <z2s4b6f92901004092219qca073ecbhd35ec1abce5785d4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <858218.99241.qm@web112720.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi Willy,

I was restricting myself to the quarter inch tape machines for home use( high end), which I have checked out have responses below 25 Hz... in their spec sheets, at 15 ips.....
OTOH, the 680 series decks can go down to 10Hz +-3dB....a claim not  one rtr (home of course) can make at the low spectrum! Let me know if you can find one specked like that!

Like you state, this is a headroom issue. The highs require a lot more headroom than the lows...

Peace!

Ram
--- On Sat, 4/10/10, Willy Hermann <willy at willyhermannservices.com> wrote:

From: Willy Hermann <willy at willyhermannservices.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Saturday, April 10, 2010, 1:19 AM

That's not the case.  A professional open reel machine is capable of full (20-20KHz) response at up to 15ips.  It isn't until you get to 30ips that the low frequency response begins to be sacrificed.  The biggest difference between an open reel cassette deck is head room.  A professional machine (1/8" of tape per track) will be able to record and play full frequency at 0dB - even somewhat above for the better machines.

Willy

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 2:35 PM, shanti ramachandran <shantiram2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:

Andy,

I can understand your need for a double speed machine.. However, the low end response would not be as good. It may ( will) rise to 30Hz instead of the 20hz. standard  due to higher speed. 


Look at reel to reel machines. Even the mighty SONY TC-880-2 could not go beyond 25Hz....

Ram


--- On Thu, 4/8/10, Dundis, Andy <DundisA at zhi.com> wrote:


From: Dundis, Andy <DundisA at zhi.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5

To: naktalk at naks.com
Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 7:51 AM




 
 

 





Would a double speed tape machine not yield
a higher quality recording??? This is/was typically the case in the recording
industry. I would think it preferable to have an option for double speed rather
than half speed for this reason. Wouter, any input on this subject? 

Andy 

   









From: shanti
ramachandran [mailto:shantiram2000 at yahoo.com] 

Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010
5:05 PM

To: hitech at birch.net;
 Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks

Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk
Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5 



   


 
  
  To sell more cassette tapes, perhaps Tom>>??
  Phillips was in the cassette making business too, so they looked the other
  way at higher speed machines.

  

  Just speculating here...

  

  Ram

  

  --- On Wed, 4/7/10, tom brucker <hitech at birch.net>
  wrote: 
  

  From: tom brucker <hitech at birch.net>

  Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5

  To: " Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks "
  < naktalk at naks.com >

  Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 10:30 AM 
  
  
  As I understand it the Philips cassette
  patents specified the speed, but not the number of tracks. Remember, cassette
  was introduced as a mono format. Ampex introduced stereo cassette recorders,
  and then Nakamichi made the stereo hi fidelity. 
  
  
  I also never understood why 1/2 speed
  was nixed but double speed was allowed. 
  
  
    
  
  
  tom brucker 
  
  
  -----Original Message-----

  From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com
  [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf
  Of Bob Pierce

  Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010
  12:29 PM

  To: ' Talk
   about Nakamichi Cassette Decks '

  Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re:
  Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5 
  
  How did Tascam get away with the 4 track units then? Are
  they just using the R and L channels on both sides at the same time? 
    
  Bob 
    
  
  
  From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com
  [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
  Of tom brucker

  Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010
  9:57 AM

  To: Talk
   about Nakamichi Cassette Decks

  Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re:
  Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5 
  
  
    
  
  What if history had been different? What if 1/2 speed cassettes
  became the standard? Metal tape would remain in production. A complete CD
  would fit on a C-45. Live concerts could fit on one cassette uninterrupted. 
  
  
    
  
  
  tom brucker 
  
  
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  From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com
  [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]On Behalf
  Of shanti ramachandran

  Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010
  8:58 AM

  To: Talk
   about Nakamichi Cassette Decks

  Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re:
  Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5 
  
   
    
    John,
    you are correct.

    

    Phillips was the entity that legally forced Nakamichi to revert to the 1
    7/8 speed due to patent violation. 

    

    That is why only the 680 and the 680ZX( normal and auto azimuth adjusting
    decks) were the only Naks with half speed capability. 

    

    Interestingly, these were the decks that were perfected before the ZXE and
    ZXL decks came into fruition.

    

    Ram

    

    --- On Mon, 4/5/10, John Berger <jberger at well.com>
    wrote: 
    

    From: John Berger <jberger at well.com>

    Subject: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5

    To: naktalk at naks.com

    Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 9:24 PM 
    
    

    It was the Nak 680 that had the half-speed recording option (and it would
    still get 15kHz on the top end).

    

    My understanding is that Philips (the company who owned the patent on the
    compact cassette, and licensed its use) pressured Nak to go to the single
    speed.  They also went after B*I*C, with their two speed deck (which
    went the other direction of double-speed).   Apparently,
    part of the license specified the speed as part of the specs.

    

    They also specified that the tapes be compatable mono or stereo, which is
    why cassettes have left and right channels side by side, instead of
    interleaved the way that they are on a reel-to-reel.

    

    

    

    Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 11:23:13 -0500

    From: "d. dickerson" <ddickerson at austin.rr.com>

    Subject: Re: [naktalk] Leaflet

    To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
    < naktalk at naks.com >

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    thanks for the leaflet...well done....

    

    blurb contained therein about Nak 680ZX reminds of a question about its

    capability to record/playback with two speeds...had read that 'RIAA' or

    some other sanctioning body had brought action and Nak had had to

    remove two-speed option from all succeeding models...does anyone have a

    more complete version of that episode?

    

    

    

    

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From mike.k.mitchell at boeing.com  Tue Apr 13 20:03:22 2010
From: mike.k.mitchell at boeing.com (Mitchell, Mike K)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 11:03:22 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Nak 700 will not play
Message-ID: <D3B973AAB83A944F9DC5FA5CE236C2A7738ACE66@XCH-SW-01V.sw.nos.boeing.com>

I've had this unit since 1975 and it has worked great until yesterday.

When I press "play" the tape it will not stay engaged.
Head will stay engaged if I hold the Play button down but pops free immediately when I release the button.
Tried several tapes thinking the tape was not moving freely but still pops back immediately
I thought it might be the clutch between the drive and tape so took it apart and cleaned the felt, reassembled but still will not stay engaged to play.
All belts are working.

Could it be the electronics which sence that the clutch input is moving but output tape is not ("end of tape electronics")?  These electronics would normally tell the head assembly to pop back to stop pinching the tape and trying to move the tape (minimizing chance of tape breakage).

Where are "end of tape" electronics which senses the drive side of the clutch moving but the tape side not?

How can I get a manual with electronics details?




From mark8559 at hotmail.com  Tue Apr 13 22:46:25 2010
From: mark8559 at hotmail.com (Mark Exstedt)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:46:25 -0600
Subject: FW: [naktalk] Nak 700 will not play
In-Reply-To: <D3B973AAB83A944F9DC5FA5CE236C2A7738ACE66@XCH-SW-01V.sw.nos.boeing.com>
References: <D3B973AAB83A944F9DC5FA5CE236C2A7738ACE66@XCH-SW-01V.sw.nos.boeing.com>
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This link has the 700II service manual:
http://www.naks.com/wiki/doku.php?id=documents



> From: mike.k.mitchell at boeing.com
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 11:03:22 -0700
> Subject: [naktalk] Nak 700 will not play
> 
> I've had this unit since 1975 and it has worked great until yesterday.
> 
> When I press "play" the tape it will not stay engaged.
> Head will stay engaged if I hold the Play button down but pops free immediately when I release the button.
> Tried several tapes thinking the tape was not moving freely but still pops back immediately
> I thought it might be the clutch between the drive and tape so took it apart and cleaned the felt, reassembled but still will not stay engaged to play.
> All belts are working.
> 
> Could it be the electronics which sence that the clutch input is moving but output tape is not ("end of tape electronics")?  These electronics would normally tell the head assembly to pop back to stop pinching the tape and trying to move the tape (minimizing chance of tape breakage).
> 
> Where are "end of tape" electronics which senses the drive side of the clutch moving but the tape side not?
> 
> How can I get a manual with electronics details?
> 
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From stephen.sternthal at verizon.net  Thu Apr 15 07:04:19 2010
From: stephen.sternthal at verizon.net (Stephen W. Sternthal)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 01:04:19 -0400
Subject: FW: [naktalk] Nak 700 will not play
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Mark Exstedt wrote:
>
> This link has the 700II service manual:
> http://www.naks.com/wiki/doku.php?id=documents
>
>
>
> > From: mike.k.mitchell at boeing.com
> > To: naktalk at naks.com
> > Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 11:03:22 -0700
> > Subject: [naktalk] Nak 700 will not play
> >
> > I've had this unit since 1975 and it has worked great until yesterday.
> >
> > When I press "play" the tape it will not stay engaged.
> > Head will stay engaged if I hold the Play button down but pops free 
> immediately when I release the button.
> > Tried several tapes thinking the tape was not moving freely but 
> still pops back immediately
> > I thought it might be the clutch between the drive and tape so took 
> it apart and cleaned the felt, reassembled but still will not stay 
> engaged to play.
> > All belts are working.
> >
> > Could it be the electronics which sence that the clutch input is 
> moving but output tape is not ("end of tape electronics")? These 
> electronics would normally tell the head assembly to pop back to stop 
> pinching the tape and trying to move the tape (minimizing chance of 
> tape breakage).
> >
> > Where are "end of tape" electronics which senses the drive side of 
> the clutch moving but the tape side not?
> >
> > How can I get a manual with electronics details?
> >
> >
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try cleaning the touch controls  really well with windex or denatured 
alcohol my 700II would go into stop mode if buttons dirty


From rayr0683 at comcast.net  Thu Apr 15 09:31:33 2010
From: rayr0683 at comcast.net (rayr0683 at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:31:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [naktalk] Tapes
Message-ID: <1930918303.13820111271316693287.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>



Hello All, 

                     Here is a link to some nice Chrome Tapes in case anyone didn't know.... 




http://www.darklab-magnetics.de/darklab_webshop/index.htm                   Ray
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From wdrewes at iafrica.com  Fri Apr 16 09:04:38 2010
From: wdrewes at iafrica.com (wdrewes at iafrica.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 09:04:38 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] ST-7 Buttons and illuminated dial
Message-ID: <MWS4135389ccae6b24140a6b024fad5916cf2@MWS41>

If anyone can tell me where to get or sell me the Nakamichi "Seek Up" and "Seek Down " as well as the "AM" buttons for an ST-7 Tuner please contact me off-line.
 I also need the illuminated dial. I can pay by PayPal.
Many thanks!
Walter
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From classicaudiorepair at gmail.com  Fri Apr 16 09:55:55 2010
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com (Fred Longworth)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 00:55:55 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] ST-7 Buttons and illuminated dial
In-Reply-To: <MWS4135389ccae6b24140a6b024fad5916cf2@MWS41>
References: <MWS4135389ccae6b24140a6b024fad5916cf2@MWS41>
Message-ID: <y2pe5ebe7c21004160055u4df86af4g10e31b6c6f4a9db7@mail.gmail.com>

Walter, I buy nearly all my lamps here --

http://home.earthlink.net/~dwojo/index.html

The lamps Dave sells are superior to most of the lamps available from places
like MCM, and he has a better selection of lamps for audio gear than Mouser
or Digi-Key.

You will, however, need to know the electrical characteristics of the
original lamps, either from Nakamichi service documents or from in-circuit
measurements.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

* * * * *

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:04 AM, wdrewes at iafrica.com
<wdrewes at iafrica.com>wrote:

> If anyone can tell me where to get or sell me the Nakamichi "Seek Up" and
> "Seek Down " as well as the "AM" buttons for an ST-7 Tuner please contact me
> off-line.
>  I also need the illuminated dial. I can pay by PayPal.
> Many thanks!
> Walter
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From p9019 at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 16 10:32:25 2010
From: p9019 at yahoo.com (Scott Johnson)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 01:32:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] ST-7 Buttons and illuminated dial
In-Reply-To: <MWS4135389ccae6b24140a6b024fad5916cf2@MWS41>
References: <MWS4135389ccae6b24140a6b024fad5916cf2@MWS41>
Message-ID: <601291.41901.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

What are you talking about, "...illuminated dial."  On the ST-7????

Scott J.




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From: "wdrewes at iafrica.com" <wdrewes at iafrica.com>
To: "naktalk at naks.com" <naktalk at naks.com>
Sent: Fri, April 16, 2010 12:04:38 AM
Subject: [naktalk] ST-7 Buttons and illuminated dial

If anyone can tell me where to get or sell me the Nakamichi "Seek Up" and "Seek Down " as well as the "AM" buttons for an ST-7 Tuner please contact me off-line.
 I also need the illuminated dial. I can pay by PayPal.
Many thanks!
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From p9019 at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 16 23:15:58 2010
From: p9019 at yahoo.com (Scott Johnson)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 14:15:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] ST-7 Buttons and illuminated dial
In-Reply-To: <MWS4156237b2bae0f4756b9e2fd4b087cbe3c@MWS41>
References: <MWS4156237b2bae0f4756b9e2fd4b087cbe3c@MWS41>
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What's wrong with it that you want to get a new display?  It rarely needs to be replaced unless the glass is cracked.  If the whole display is off then look for a leaky electrolytics caps on the display board and replace it.  I forget the C-number.  If you have a problem were some of the segments are dim that's an even easier fix.  Just change the station so the segments that are dim are lit and leave it for a 24 hours.  Change the station to make sure all the dim segments get about a day of use.  The dim segments will come back to life.  I haven't added this little fix to my nak FAQ web page, since it is a relatively recent finding, but, it will get on there soon.  http://www.nakremotes.com/Geo/Scott_Nak_FAQ.htm


Scott J.




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From: "wdrewes at iafrica.com" <wdrewes at iafrica.com>
To: "p9019 at yahoo.com" <p9019 at yahoo.com>
Sent: Fri, April 16, 2010 4:20:17 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [naktalk] ST-7 Buttons and illuminated dial

The amber (or is it green ? )dial/display that shows: Signal Strength by bar,Station Hz,whether unit is operating in Stereo or not.etc.The whole display unit ,electronics et all would be required.
I hope the above description  can be understood!
Many thanks
walter


 ----- Original Message ------
 From:Scott Johnson
 Sent:Friday, April 16, 2010 10:32
 To:Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks naktalk at naks.com; 
 Subject:Re: [naktalk] ST-7 Buttons and illuminated dial 
What are you talking about, "...illuminated dial."  On the ST-7????

Scott J.




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From: "wdrewes at iafrica.com" <wdrewes at iafrica.com>
To: "naktalk at naks.com" <naktalk at naks.com>
Sent: Fri, April 16, 2010 12:04:38 AM
Subject: [naktalk] ST-7 Buttons and illuminated dial

If anyone can tell me where to get or sell me the Nakamichi "Seek Up" and "Seek Down " as well as the "AM" buttons for an ST-7 Tuner please contact me off-line.
 I also need the illuminated dial. I can pay by PayPal.
Many thanks!
Walter


      
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From mcole01 at comcast.net  Sat Apr 17 13:59:30 2010
From: mcole01 at comcast.net (Michael Cole)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 07:59:30 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7 button caps
References: <4B86BAAA.5070300@marrscom.com>
Message-ID: <1FEEB1BF788C46DD8D7E97D1FEBFF9F2@georgeto04b419>

Hello everyone,

I've just made a lucky find - a CR-7 in working condition.  However, it's missing the button caps from the PLAY and PAUSE buttons.  Would anyone have these caps that I could buy?  I may be wrong but the button caps are probably the same on all of the CR series decks.

Please contact me off list mcole01 at comcast.net if you have them.

Thanks and all the best,

Mike
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From shoeihell at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 17 16:28:22 2010
From: shoeihell at yahoo.com (Kevin Fetner)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 07:28:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Instructions for belt replacement
In-Reply-To: <201004171017.o3HA8HmO009769@zxe.naks.com>
References: <201004171017.o3HA8HmO009769@zxe.naks.com>
Message-ID: <90139.16900.qm@web65601.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

Scott,
This is OT to your OP, but in your instructions for replacing the flip mechanism belt on the RX-505....I think you should warn others how delicate that pot is on the top plate w/motor. It is EXTREMELY easy to b break, due to its very thin shaft. Just putting the plate back in place can break it. It's not hard at all to replace, except for the issue of FINDING another one. 

Kevin


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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 14:15:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Scott Johnson <p9019 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [naktalk] ST-7 Buttons and illuminated dial
To: naktalk at naks.com
Message-ID: <798303.12332.qm at web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

What's wrong with it that you want to get a new display?  It rarely needs to be replaced unless the glass is cracked.  If the whole display is off then look for a leaky electrolytics caps on the display board and replace it.  I forget the C-number.  If you have a problem were some of the segments are dim that's an even easier fix.  Just change the station so the segments that are dim are lit and leave it for a 24 hours.  Change the station to make sure all the dim segments get about a day of use.  The dim segments will come back to life.  I haven't added this little fix to my nak FAQ web page, since it is a relatively recent finding, but, it will get on there soon.  http://www.nakremotes.com/Geo/Scott_Nak_FAQ.htm


Scott J.




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From footsurg at hotmail.com  Sun Apr 18 15:52:43 2010
From: footsurg at hotmail.com (Mark Margiotta)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 08:52:43 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7 button caps
In-Reply-To: <1FEEB1BF788C46DD8D7E97D1FEBFF9F2@georgeto04b419>
References: <4B86BAAA.5070300@marrscom.com>,
	<1FEEB1BF788C46DD8D7E97D1FEBFF9F2@georgeto04b419>
Message-ID: <SNT117-W26E9C88645759182B755CFCE0C0@phx.gbl>



Mike

 

 I don't think the buttons  are all the same on the CR series.  Just looked at a CR-1 on eBay and the buttons are different than the 7.  I think the only ones that are interchangable are the CR-5 and CR-7.  I recently found a really nice CR-7 as well.  I just went through it.  I cleaned it up, realigned it, did the idler gear mod and performed the recording eq mod.  If your CR-7 has a SN lower than 8677 then it does not have the eq mod.  These 7's with SN's <8677 were not biased properly from the factory with regard to record eq .  When you hear one that has the mod and the old stock models with out the mod.....the difference in recorded sound quality is HUGE.  
 
Mark


From: mcole01 at comcast.net
To: naktalk at naks.com
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 07:59:30 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7 button caps




Hello everyone,
 
I've just made a lucky find - a CR-7 in working condition.  However, it's missing the button caps from the PLAY and PAUSE buttons.  Would anyone have these caps that I could buy?  I may be wrong but the button caps are probably the same on all of the CR series decks.
 
Please contact me off list mcole01 at comcast.net if you have them.
 
Thanks and all the best,
 
Mike 		 	   		  
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From nakhead at y7mail.com  Mon Apr 19 08:48:15 2010
From: nakhead at y7mail.com (Steve Kulak)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 23:48:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Fw: ZXL1000 help
Message-ID: <475463.12426.qm@web114608.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>



Hi Naktalkers,
Have spent 4 days last week on and off on a 1000ZXL. Replaced about  40  orange  capacitors 
anall the boards , each capacitor was measured individually with a capacitance meter and match in value to the original before 
replacingit . On this Nakamichi these capacitor values are  close tolerance .
 
Status is  Play Ok , Mech needs some fine tuning but ok at this point .
 
But! Record EQ amplifier Board is another story.
 
Record  Line in  Signal there but not  is  coming out of the board , No  bias signal   ,  No signal thru  Record EQ amplifier Board ,  has around 30 computer  inputs to this board  logic signals  from the CPU to control everything ,  record Levels, Freq response , frequency  Peaking , bias levels, etc. 
 
  Record , Run – Azimuth-  , intermittent 400 Hz manually, then  no go ,  No main calibration  oscillators  no CPU signals to control  --- Good news , there is a 105Khz bias signal in this mode but it does nothing else. 
 
 Record , Run – Auto Cal , no Go!
 
I am chasing my tail around the  Logic ( Logic ICs )  and 2 x main  CPU  IC  and associated Logic ICs at the moment.  
 
I am in a quandary as I have been trying to work  without the Nakamichi  Test Gig   that you can supposedly use to test and control the 
CPU  andall the functions , this is also used to set up the bias , amp levels , etc etc it does the works. There is an extension
Board as well     
 
I'm told the test gig makes it like working on a modern Motor Car , you drive the car in and they Plug a gig and leads  into the cars Computer  to analyse it !!       
 
Also it appears some one may have cut the board and bypassed one of the relays  on the main board , see the brown jumper leads on attached photo,  I don’t know wether this is a modification or is an attempt to fix a fault , the manuals do not show any  circuit mods yet the are factory mods on this board.
 
Can anyone confirm whether this is a factory production mod?
 
Where can I get the latest electronics schematics, if there is such a thing?
 
Help anyone??
 
Thanks Paul


      
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From rjlbjk at verizon.net  Mon Apr 19 18:08:40 2010
From: rjlbjk at verizon.net (Roland)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:08:40 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
Message-ID: <0L1400C2PSU9SS50@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net>

and does anyone believe this is a new unit?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320516301110&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Roland

When momentum meets resistance, push harder. 



From pharmboy at cruzio.com  Tue Apr 20 07:08:06 2010
From: pharmboy at cruzio.com (pharmboy at cruzio.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 22:08:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Gently Used Cassette Tapes
Message-ID: <034c8bebd71b1cb7d1720849c206ea09.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com>




Hello Again All-

After a year off I'm back at it again clearing out more of my cassette
collection.  Also clearing out a large part of my DAT collection as well,
if anyone has an interest. And I will also be listing my BX-2 and CR-2A
soon.   But in the meantime... here is the info about the gently used
cassettes...



I have about 300 used once cassette tapes I'm parting with.  All tapes
recorded on once and played back at most 4 to 5 times (most only played
back once) only in clean home decks. Never played in car stereos, boom
boxes, dirty or inferior decks.  All tapes were recorded on clean NAK
or TASCAM Pro decks.  All tapes were stored in smoke free, temperature and
humidity controlled environment.  The tapes are in near mint
condition.    There are many on this list how have purchased
tapes from me in the past and can verify the qaulity and condition of my
tapes.  All tape was made in Japan. 



TDK SA  @  $3/each

TDK SA-X  @ $4/each

Maxell XLII  @ 0.75/each

Maxell XLII-S @ $3.50 each

I have both 90 and 100 min lengths

 

5 Metal Tapes- assorted brands (i.e. Sony, Maxell,  That's, TDK)
for $30 + postage (media rate).



Please hit me off list if interested or if you have question

BR, David F





 
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From wdrewes at iafrica.com  Tue Apr 20 10:04:47 2010
From: wdrewes at iafrica.com (wdrewes at iafrica.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 10:04:47 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Storage of Nak Test Tapes
Message-ID: <MWS39509cace3d1644e4280833672f72f6e3f@mws39>

Does anyone have any ideas on whether storage of these tapes in a metal box/container could be harmfull to the tapes (the same , I suppose , would apply to music recorded tapes)
Many thanks!
Walter
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From wdrewes at iafrica.com  Tue Apr 20 11:00:19 2010
From: wdrewes at iafrica.com (wdrewes at iafrica.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:00:19 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
Message-ID: <MWS37fa7c8b0b772e4e6d915fb582790c48f8@mws37>

Why do they never have church rumble sales like that where I live?
Walter


 

 ----- Original Message ------
 From:Roland
 Sent:Monday, April 19, 2010 18:08
 To:Nakamichi tapedecks naktalk at naks.com; 
 Subject:[naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
 


 
 
 
 and does anyone believe this is a new unit? 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320516301110&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT 

Roland 

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From classicaudiorepair at gmail.com  Tue Apr 20 17:15:20 2010
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com (Fred Longworth)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:15:20 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Storage of Nak Test Tapes
In-Reply-To: <MWS39509cace3d1644e4280833672f72f6e3f@mws39>
References: <MWS39509cace3d1644e4280833672f72f6e3f@mws39>
Message-ID: <i2he5ebe7c21004200815tcae88860l65590fa28e3e5e29@mail.gmail.com>

Walter,

That would depend on the type of metal.  If the box were ferrous, I would be
hesitant. Aluminum, no problem. Untreated wood, no problem. Cheap plastic
boxes gradually "sweat" fumes. Opaque is better than clear.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:04 AM, wdrewes at iafrica.com <wdrewes at iafrica.com>wrote:

> Does anyone have any ideas on whether storage of these tapes in a metal
> box/container could be harmfull to the tapes (the same , I suppose , would
> apply to music recorded tapes)
> Many thanks!
> Walter
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From classicaudiorepair at gmail.com  Tue Apr 20 17:28:22 2010
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com (Fred Longworth)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:28:22 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
In-Reply-To: <0L1400C2PSU9SS50@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <0L1400C2PSU9SS50@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <r2se5ebe7c21004200828s1e00dd81u1b690cceed174185@mail.gmail.com>

There are two things that have my bullshit alarm going off.

The first is the $30.00 USPS shipping charge. USPS is the worst way of
shipping gear, as compared to UPS or Fed-Ex. No mention was made of
insurance.

The second is the dubious comment that he didn't have any way to hook it up
until he acquired a boom box. Who, in the modern age, *doesn't *have a
stereo or home-theater rig sitting somewhere in their home? -- or, for that
matter, a TV with a spare video input? After all, this is a person who *does
* own a digital camera and a computer. So . . . this man, allegedly the
spouse of a female pastor in a church, "fudged" on the truth.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

* * * * *

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Roland <rjlbjk at verizon.net> wrote:

> and does anyone believe this is a new unit?
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320516301110&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
>
> Roland
>
> When momentum meets resistance, push harder.
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From classicaudiorepair at gmail.com  Tue Apr 20 19:14:16 2010
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com (Fred Longworth)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 10:14:16 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Fw: ZXL1000 help
In-Reply-To: <475463.12426.qm@web114608.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <475463.12426.qm@web114608.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <u2te5ebe7c21004201014i12e310fv59f64d243322db49@mail.gmail.com>

Steve,

Looks like you've really put in the time on this 1000ZXL. Goodbye horrible
orange film caps!

When a board is not performing, the first thing I always check is supply
voltages. The presence of the 105kHz bias under any circumstance, no matter
how limited, tells us that the bias oscillator is capable of functioning. I
would take a close look at the record EQ board from the standpoint of supply
voltages.

Also . . . when you put the set into normal record mode, say with a TDK SAX,
how many earmarks of being in RECORD MODE can you identify? Put differently,
when the set enters record mode, this state is reflected at dozens of points
throughout the set. Most obviously, the meters will deflect with the music
and the REC indicator will go on. Various analog switches will direct the
signal along correct pathways, various muting transistor pairs will switch
on and off, a switching device will activate the bias oscillator, the tape
transport will run, etc.

I often find that my compiling a kind of "state matrix" I can deduce where
the cause of the problem lies. Say, to make up a simple thought experinent,
that in REC mode, there are ten places where the "state of record" is
supposed to be reflected. Let's number these 1 through 10. Now imagine that
1,2,4,6,8, and 10 are indeed going into a REC-ON state, but 3,5,7, and 9 are
not. Now . . . further suppose that ultimately 3,5,7, and 9 track back to a
state change in a single switching transistor. I can assume with some
confidence that either that transistor is bad, or the control signal that
switches it is missing. I can then trace the logic path backward to the
source of the trouble.

* * * * *

GENERAL TROUBLESHOOTING PRINCIPLE: Use the principle of reductionism to
redefine the failure into its most basic, component-level form.

GENERAL TROUBLESHOOTING PRINCIPLE: Start at the point of malfunction and
troubleshoot AWAY from it, or start at a point of healthy operation and
troubleshoot TOWARD the malfunction.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Steve Kulak <nakhead at y7mail.com> wrote:

>
>   Hi Naktalkers,
> Have spent 4 days last week on and off on a 1000ZXL. Replaced about  40  orange
>  capacitors
>
> an all the boards , each capacitor was measured individually with a
> capacitance meter and match in value to the original before
>
> replacing it . On this Nakamichi these capacitor values are  closetolerance .
>
>
>
> Status is  Play Ok , Mech needs some fine tuning but ok at this point .
>
>
>
> *But! Record EQ amplifier Board is another story.*
>
>
>
> Record  Line in  Signal there but not  is  coming out of the board , No  bias
> signal   ,  No signal thru  Record EQ amplifier Board ,  has around 30
> computer  inputs to this board  logic signals  from the CPU to
> control everything ,  record Levels, Freq response , frequency  Peaking ,
> bias levels, etc.
>
>
>
>   Record , Run – Azimuth-  , intermittent 400 Hz manually, then  no go ,  No
> main calibration  oscillators  no CPU signals to control  --- Good news ,
> there is a 105Khz bias signal in this mode but it does nothing else.
>
>
>
>  Record , Run – Auto Cal , no Go!
>
>
>
> I am chasing my tail around the  Logic ( Logic ICs )  and 2 x main  CPU
> IC  and associated Logic ICs at the moment.
>
>
>
> I am in a quandary as I have been trying to work  without the Nakamichi  Test
> Gig   that you can supposedly use to test and control the
>
> CPU  and all the functions , this is also used to set up the bias , amp
> levels , etc etc it does the works. There is an extension
>
> Board as well
>
>
>
> I'm told the test gig makes it like working on a modern Motor Car , you
> drive the car in and they Plug a gig and leads  into the cars Computer  to
> analyse it !!
>
>
>
> Also it appears some one may have cut the board and bypassed one of the
> relays  on the main board , see the brown jumper leads on attached photo,
> I don’t know wether this is a modification or is an attempt to fix a fault
> , the manuals do not show any  circuit mods yet the are factory mods on
> this board.
>
>
>
> Can anyone confirm whether this is a factory production mod?
>
>
>
> Where can I get the latest electronics schematics, if there is such a
> thing?
>
>
>
> Help anyone??
>
>
>
> Thanks Paul
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From fripp_em at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 20 18:06:07 2010
From: fripp_em at yahoo.com (fripp_em)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:06:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Storage of Nak Test Tapes
Message-ID: <553479.60763.qm@web50504.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I know that tapes we send for off site storage are sent in metal (steel) boxes, but they are painted and padded.  I don't know what paint.  Something that doesn't come off:-)  They are also kept in environmentally controlled rooms.  

David

--- On Tue, 4/20/10, wdrewes at iafrica.com <wdrewes at iafrica.com> wrote:

Does anyone have any ideas on whether storage of these tapes in a metal box/container could be harmfull to the tapes (the same , I suppose , would apply to music recorded tapes)
Many thanks!
Walter




      



From shantiram2000 at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 20 22:03:50 2010
From: shantiram2000 at yahoo.com (shanti ramachandran)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 13:03:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
In-Reply-To: <r2se5ebe7c21004200828s1e00dd81u1b690cceed174185@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <355657.79850.qm@web112710.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Fred, Roland,

Whatever anyone says or thinks or feels about this auction, the seller made a killing of $1730, and this was one of the most heavily bid auctions I've seen in a while.

Ram

--- On Tue, 4/20/10, Fred Longworth <classicaudiorepair at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Fred Longworth <classicaudiorepair at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 11:28 AM

There are two things that have my bullshit alarm going off.

The first is the $30.00 USPS shipping charge. USPS is the worst way of shipping gear, as compared to UPS or Fed-Ex. No mention was made of insurance.


The second is the dubious comment that he didn't have any way to hook it up until he acquired a boom box. Who, in the modern age, doesn't have a stereo or home-theater rig sitting somewhere in their home? -- or, for that matter, a TV with a spare video input? After all, this is a person who does own a digital camera and a computer. So . . . this man, allegedly the spouse of a female pastor in a church, "fudged" on the truth.


Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

* * * * *

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Roland <rjlbjk at verizon.net> wrote:

and does anyone believe this is a new unit?



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320516301110&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT




Roland



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From johngipps at ymail.com  Wed Apr 21 14:30:12 2010
From: johngipps at ymail.com (John Gipps)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 05:30:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
In-Reply-To: <201004211017.o3LA881m024917@zxe.naks.com>
References: <201004211017.o3LA881m024917@zxe.naks.com>
Message-ID: <233874.19154.qm@web113709.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi Walter

With my luck, I would have stumbled over the Dragon at the church fete and not had $100 in my wallet. 

For what it's worth, I read all the additional statements from the seller, and the Qs and As, and decided to accept that it was all on the level. Not everyone is technically savvy, and not everyone has a twelve year old to show them how to do it. 

Fred, as far as I can see, your comment "So . . . this man, allegedly the spouse of a female pastor in a  church, "fudged" on the truth." is pure speculation on your part, but you've stated it as though you've somehow proven it with your preceding argument.

Another bargain spotted on the net recently was a T-100 for sale for $40. I emailed the seller, and received a polite reply from "Danny", advising me that it had sold three months ago. C'est la vie. If you want to see this item, just GoogleT-100 Fort Lauderdale.

Regards

John Gipps



Message: 2
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:00:19 +0200
From: "wdrewes at iafrica.com" <wdrewes at iafrica.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
To: "rjlbjk at verizon.net" <rjlbjk at verizon.net>,    "naktalk at naks.com"
    <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID: <MWS37fa7c8b0b772e4e6d915fb582790c48f8 at mws37>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Why do they never have church rumble sales like that where I live?
Walter


 ----- Original Message ------
 From:Roland
 Sent:Monday, April 19, 2010 18:08
 To:Nakamichitapedecksnaktalk at naks.com; 
 Subject:[naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?

and does anyone believe this is a new unit? 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320516301110&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT 

Roland 

Message: 4
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:28:22 -0700
From: Fred Longworth <classicaudiorepair at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID:
    <r2se5ebe7c21004200828s1e00dd81u1b690cceed174185 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

There are two things that have my bullshit alarm going off.

The first is the $30.00 USPS shipping charge. USPS is the worst way of
shipping gear, as compared to UPS or Fed-Ex. No mention was made of
insurance.

The second is the dubious comment that he didn't have any way to hook it up
until he acquired a boom box. Who, in the modern age, *doesn't *have a
stereo or home-theater rig sitting somewhere in their home? -- or, for that
matter, a TV with a spare video input? After all, this is a person who *does
* own a digital camera and a computer. So . . . this man, allegedly the
spouse of a female pastor in a church, "fudged" on the truth.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com


      
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From mark8559 at hotmail.com  Wed Apr 21 15:41:26 2010
From: mark8559 at hotmail.com (Mark Exstedt)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 07:41:26 -0600
Subject: FW: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
In-Reply-To: <233874.19154.qm@web113709.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <201004211017.o3LA881m024917@zxe.naks.com>,
	<233874.19154.qm@web113709.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SNT111-W24D98E99AC25297D446E8EDB090@phx.gbl>



You can't take for granted that anyone is telling the absolute truth on Ebay.
A month ago, I called a guy locally concerning a Nak deck (and two other Nak items) on Craigslist.
When asked 'how long have you had it?', he replies 'one year'.
A couple weeks later, the same deck is listed on Ebay (along with his other two Nak items).
In his Ebay description is stated: 'Paid $XXX.00 for it in 1992'.
 
 		 	   		  
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From kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com  Wed Apr 21 18:18:14 2010
From: kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com (kannan srinivasaraghavan)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:18:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
In-Reply-To: <233874.19154.qm@web113709.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <280246.96766.qm@web33301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I found that many believe that all sellers in ebay are telling lies and out to cheat the buyer. 
Surprisingly many sellers are ignorant what Dragon can do and how to use a Dragon.
I also see many naktalkers themselves believe that their Dragon is working fine while it may not really working fine!
Minty Dragon attracts many bidders unlike any other Nak but it is the only machine which requires good service and sometimes extensive work to reclaim it to reliable working level
Kannan


--- On Wed, 4/21/10, John Gipps <johngipps at ymail.com> wrote:


From: John Gipps <johngipps at ymail.com>
Subject: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
To: wdrewes at iafrica.com
Cc: naktalk at naks.com
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 8:30 AM






Hi Walter

With my luck, I would have stumbled over the Dragon at the church fete and not had $100 in my wallet. 

For what it's worth, I read all the additional statements from the seller, and the Qs and As, and decided to accept that it was all on the level. Not everyone is technically savvy, and not everyone has a twelve year old to show them how to do it. 

Fred, as far as I can see, your comment "So . . . this man, allegedly the spouse of a female pastor in a church, "fudged" on the truth." is pure speculation on your part, but you've stated it as though you've somehow proven it with your preceding argument.

Another bargain spotted on the net recently was a T-100 for sale for $40. I emailed the seller, and received a polite reply from "Danny", advising me that it had sold three months ago. C'est la vie. If you want to see this item, just Google T-100 Fort Lauderdale.

Regards

John Gipps



Message: 2
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:00:19 +0200
From: "wdrewes at iafrica.com" <wdrewes at iafrica.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
To: "rjlbjk at verizon.net" <rjlbjk at verizon.net>,    "naktalk at naks.com"
    <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID: <MWS37fa7c8b0b772e4e6d915fb582790c48f8 at mws37>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Why do they never have church rumble sales like that where I live?
Walter


 ----- Original Message ------
 From:Roland
 Sent:Monday, April 19, 2010 18:08
 To:Nakamichi tapedecks naktalk at naks.com; 
 Subject:[naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?

and does anyone believe this is a new unit? 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320516301110&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT 

Roland 

Message: 4
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:28:22 -0700
From: Fred Longworth <classicaudiorepair at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID:
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There are two things that have my bullshit alarm going off.

The first is the $30.00 USPS shipping charge. USPS is the worst way of
shipping gear, as compared to UPS or Fed-Ex. No mention was made of
insurance.

The second is the dubious comment that he didn't have any way to hook it up
until he acquired a boom box. Who, in the modern age, *doesn't *have a
stereo or home-theater rig sitting somewhere in their home? -- or, for that
matter, a TV with a spare video input? After all, this is a person who *does
* own a digital camera and a computer. So . . . this man, allegedly the
spouse of a female pastor in a church, "fudged" on the truth.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com



 
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From hp at isjcorp.com  Wed Apr 21 16:37:49 2010
From: hp at isjcorp.com (Henry Poyker)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 10:37:49 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
In-Reply-To: <SNT111-W24D98E99AC25297D446E8EDB090@phx.gbl>
References: <201004211017.o3LA881m024917@zxe.naks.com>,
	<233874.19154.qm@web113709.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<SNT111-W24D98E99AC25297D446E8EDB090@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <00aa01cae160$389aa790$a9cff6b0$@com>

I must say that I had my doubts about that item, but the back plate (the
only well-focused image) looks absolutely pristine...

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Mark Exstedt
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 9:41 AM
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: FW: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?

 

 

You can't take for granted that anyone is telling the absolute truth on
Ebay.
A month ago, I called a guy locally concerning a Nak deck (and two other Nak
items) on Craigslist.
When asked 'how long have you had it?', he replies 'one year'.
A couple weeks later, the same deck is listed on Ebay (along with his other
two Nak items).
In his Ebay description is stated: 'Paid $XXX.00 for it in 1992'.

 

  _____  

The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with
Hotmail. Get busy.
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From rpierce000 at centurytel.net  Wed Apr 21 19:04:10 2010
From: rpierce000 at centurytel.net (Bob Pierce)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 10:04:10 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
In-Reply-To: <280246.96766.qm@web33301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <233874.19154.qm@web113709.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<280246.96766.qm@web33301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <006701cae174$aa1d8e00$fe58aa00$@net>

I find that when I sell something on eBay a certain amount of hyperbole is
necessary to attract bidders. Putting something on eBay is somewhat of a
crap shoot, you never know what you will get. I have been off in my
estimates by as much as 500%.

 

I think that most people on eBay are not out to cheat someone as much as
they are trying to make their item stand out from the others.

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of kannan srinivasaraghavan
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 9:18 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?

 


I found that many believe that all sellers in ebay are telling lies and out
to cheat the buyer. 

Surprisingly many sellers are ignorant what Dragon can do and how to use a
Dragon.

I also see many naktalkers themselves believe that their Dragon is working
fine while it may not really working fine!

Minty Dragon attracts many bidders unlike any other Nak but it is the only
machine which requires good service and sometimes extensive work to reclaim
it to reliable working level

Kannan



--- On Wed, 4/21/10, John Gipps <johngipps at ymail.com> wrote:


From: John Gipps <johngipps at ymail.com>
Subject: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
To: wdrewes at iafrica.com
Cc: naktalk at naks.com
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 8:30 AM

Hi Walter

With my luck, I would have stumbled over the Dragon at the church fete and
not had $100 in my wallet. 

For what it's worth, I read all the additional statements from the seller,
and the Qs and As, and decided to accept that it was all on the level. Not
everyone is technically savvy, and not everyone has a twelve year old to
show them how to do it. 

Fred, as far as I can see, your comment "So . . . this man, allegedly the
spouse of a female pastor in a church, "fudged" on the truth." is pure
speculation on your part, but you've stated it as though you've somehow
proven it with your preceding argument.

Another bargain spotted on the net recently was a T-100 for sale for $40. I
emailed the seller, and received a polite reply from "Danny", advising me
that it had sold three months ago. C'est la vie. If you want to see this
item, just Google T-100 Fort Lauderdale.

Regards

John Gipps

 

Message: 2
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:00:19 +0200
From: "wdrewes at iafrica.com
<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wdrewes at iafrica.com> "
<wdrewes at iafrica.com
<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wdrewes at iafrica.com> >
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
To: "rjlbjk at verizon.net
<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rjlbjk at verizon.net> "
<rjlbjk at verizon.net
<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rjlbjk at verizon.net> >,
"naktalk at naks.com
<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk at naks.com> "
    <naktalk at naks.com
<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk at naks.com> >
Message-ID: <MWS37fa7c8b0b772e4e6d915fb582790c48f8 at mws37>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Why do they never have church rumble sales like that where I live?
Walter


 ----- Original Message ------
 From:Roland
 Sent:Monday, April 19, 2010 18:08
 To:Nakamichi tapedecks naktalk at naks.com
<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk at naks.com> ; 
 Subject:[naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?

and does anyone believe this is a new unit? 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320516301110&ssPageName=
STRK:MEBIDX:IT> &item=320516301110&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT 

Roland 

Message: 4
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:28:22 -0700
From: Fred Longworth <classicaudiorepair at gmail.com
<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=classicaudiorepair at gmail.com>
>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com
<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk at naks.com> >
Message-ID:
    <r2se5ebe7c21004200828s1e00dd81u1b690cceed174185 at mail.gmail.com
<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=r2se5ebe7c21004200828s1e00dd81
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

There are two things that have my bullshit alarm going off.

The first is the $30.00 USPS shipping charge. USPS is the worst way of
shipping gear, as compared to UPS or Fed-Ex. No mention was made of
insurance.

The second is the dubious comment that he didn't have any way to hook it up
until he acquired a boom box. Who, in the modern age, *doesn't *have a
stereo or home-theater rig sitting somewhere in their home? -- or, for that
matter, a TV with a spare video input? After all, this is a person who *does
* own a digital camera and a computer. So . . . this man, allegedly the
spouse of a female pastor in a church, "fudged" on the truth.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com <http://www.repairaudio.com/> 




 


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From ronami at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 23 00:10:38 2010
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:10:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
In-Reply-To: <006701cae174$aa1d8e00$fe58aa00$@net>
References: <233874.19154.qm@web113709.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<280246.96766.qm@web33301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<006701cae174$aa1d8e00$fe58aa00$@net>
Message-ID: <326988.72135.qm@web50405.mail.re2.yahoo.com>



> I think that most people on eBay are not out 
to cheat 
> someone as
much as they are trying to make their item 
> stand out from the others.

Yea, but when one posts a shack but calls it a 'castle', 
it does come across as a scam, even though all the 
seller wanted was to make the item 'stand out'.

-- Ron





________________________________
From: Bob Pierce <rpierce000 at centurytel.net>
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Sent: Wed, April 21, 2010 1:04:10 PM
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?

 
I find that when I sell something on eBay a certain amount of
hyperbole is necessary to attract bidders. Putting something on eBay is
somewhat of a crap shoot, you never know what you will get. I have been off in
my estimates by as much as 500%.
 
I think that most people on eBay are not out to cheat someone as
much as they are trying to make their item stand out from the others.
 
From:naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of kannan
srinivasaraghavan
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 9:18 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
 
I found that many believe that all sellers in ebay are telling lies and out to cheat the buyer. 
Surprisingly many sellers are ignorant what Dragon can do and how to use a Dragon.
I also see many naktalkers themselves believe that their Dragon is working fine while it may not really working fine!
Minty Dragon attracts many bidders unlike any other Nak but it is the only machine which requires good service and sometimes extensive work to reclaim it to reliable working level
Kannan


--- On Wed, 4/21/10, John Gipps <johngipps at ymail.com> wrote:

>>  From: John Gipps <johngipps at ymail.com>
>>  Subject: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
>>  To: wdrewes at iafrica.com
>>  Cc: naktalk at naks.com
>>  Date: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 8:30 AM
>Hi Walter
>
>>  With my luck, I would have stumbled over the Dragon at the church fete and
>  not had $100 in my wallet. 
>
>>  For what it's worth, I read all the additional statements from the seller,
>  and the Qs and As, and decided to accept that it was all on the level. Not
>  everyone is technically savvy, and not everyone has a twelve year old to show
>  them how to do it. 
>
>>  Fred, as far as I can see, your comment "So . . . this man, allegedly
>  the spouse of a female pastor in a church, "fudged" on the truth."
>  is pure speculation on your part, but you've stated it as though you've
>  somehow proven it with your preceding argument.
>
>>  Another bargain spotted on the net recently was a T-100 for sale for $40. I
>  emailed the seller, and received a polite reply from "Danny",
>  advising me that it had sold three months ago. C'est la vie. If you want to
>  see this item, just Google T-100 Fort Lauderdale.
>
>Regards
>
>>  John Gipps
> 
>Message: 2
>>  Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:00:19 +0200
>>  From: "wdrewes at iafrica.com" <wdrewes at iafrica.com>
>>  Subject: RE: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
>>  To: "rjlbjk at verizon.net" <rjlbjk at verizon.net>,    "naktalk at naks.com"
>>      <naktalk at naks.com>
>>  Message-ID: <MWS37fa7c8b0b772e4e6d915fb582790c48f8 at mws37>
>>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>>  Why do they never have church rumble sales like that where I live?
>>  Walter
>
>
>>  Â ----- Original Message ------
>>  Â From:Roland
>>  Â Sent:Monday, April 19, 2010 18:08
>>  Â To:Nakamichi tapedecks naktalk at naks.com; 
>>  Â Subject:[naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
>
>>  and does anyone believe this is a new unit? 
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320516301110&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT 
>
>>  Roland 
>
>>  Message: 4
>>  Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:28:22 -0700
>>  From: Fred Longworth <classicaudiorepair at gmail.com>
>>  Subject: Re: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
>>  To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>>  Message-ID:
>>      <r2se5ebe7c21004200828s1e00dd81u1b690cceed174185 at mail.gmail.com>
>>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>>  There are two things that have my bullshit alarm going off.
>
>>  The first is the $30.00 USPS shipping charge. USPS is the worst way of
>>  shipping gear, as compared to UPS or Fed-Ex. No mention was made of
>>  insurance.
>
>>  The second is the dubious comment that he didn't have any way to hook it up
>>  until he acquired a boom box. Who, in the modern age, *doesn't *have a
>>  stereo or home-theater rig sitting somewhere in their home? -- or, for that
>>  matter, a TV with a spare video input? After all, this is a person who *does
>>  * own a digital camera and a computer. So . . . this man, allegedly the
>>  spouse of a female pastor in a church, "fudged" on the truth.
>
>>  Fred
>>  Classic Audio Repair
>www.repairaudio.com
>
>
>
>>   
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From rpierce000 at centurytel.net  Fri Apr 23 03:58:56 2010
From: rpierce000 at centurytel.net (Bob Pierce)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:58:56 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
In-Reply-To: <326988.72135.qm@web50405.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <233874.19154.qm@web113709.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>	<280246.96766.qm@web33301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<006701cae174$aa1d8e00$fe58aa00$@net>
	<326988.72135.qm@web50405.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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Indeed, that is so, but when I describe a dbx 120x-ds as rare and wonderful
am I to far over the line? They are great units and I don’t see a lot of
them around, hence the description. When I just listed one with the unit
number I got $25 less.

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Ron
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:11 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?

 

 

> I think that most people on eBay are not out to cheat 
> someone as much as they are trying to make their item 
> stand out from the others.

Yea, but when one posts a shack but calls it a 'castle', 
it does come across as a scam, even though all the 
seller wanted was to make the item 'stand out'.

-- Ron




  _____  

From: Bob Pierce <rpierce000 at centurytel.net>
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Sent: Wed, April 21, 2010 1:04:10 PM
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?

I find that when I sell something on eBay a certain amount of hyperbole is
necessary to attract bidders. Putting something on eBay is somewhat of a
crap shoot, you never know what you will get. I have been off in my
estimates by as much as 500%.

 

I think that most people on eBay are not out to cheat someone as much as
they are trying to make their item stand out from the others.

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of kannan srinivasaraghavan
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 9:18 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?

 


I found that many believe that all sellers in ebay are telling lies and out
to cheat the buyer. 

Surprisingly many sellers are ignorant what Dragon can do and how to use a
Dragon.

I also see many naktalkers themselves believe that their Dragon is working
fine while it may not really working fine!

Minty Dragon attracts many bidders unlike any other Nak but it is the only
machine which requires good service and sometimes extensive work to reclaim
it to reliable working level

Kannan



--- On Wed, 4/21/10, John Gipps <johngipps at ymail.com> wrote:


From: John Gipps <johngipps at ymail.com>
Subject: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
To: wdrewes at iafrica.com
Cc: naktalk at naks.com
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 8:30 AM

Hi Walter

With my luck, I would have stumbled over the Dragon at the church fete and
not had $100 in my wallet. 

For what it's worth, I read all the additional statements from the seller,
and the Qs and As, and decided to accept that it was all on the level. Not
everyone is technically savvy, and not everyone has a twelve year old to
show them how to do it. 

Fred, as far as I can see, your comment "So . . . this man, allegedly the
spouse of a female pastor in a church, "fudged" on the truth." is pure
speculation on your part, but you've stated it as though you've somehow
proven it with your preceding argument.

Another bargain spotted on the net recently was a T-100 for sale for $40. I
emailed the seller, and received a polite reply from "Danny", advising me
that it had sold three months ago. C'est la vie. If you want to see this
item, just Google T-100 Fort Lauderdale.

Regards

John Gipps

 

Message: 2
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:00:19 +0200
From: "wdrewes at iafrica.com
<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wdrewes at iafrica.com> "
<wdrewes at iafrica.com
<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wdrewes at iafrica.com> >
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
To: "rjlbjk at verizon.net
<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rjlbjk at verizon.net> "
<rjlbjk at verizon.net
<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rjlbjk at verizon.net> >,
"naktalk at naks.com
<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk at naks.com> "
    <naktalk at naks.com
<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk at naks.com> >
Message-ID: <MWS37fa7c8b0b772e4e6d915fb582790c48f8 at mws37>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Why do they never have church rumble sales like that where I live?
Walter


 ----- Original Message ------
 From:Roland
 Sent:Monday, April 19, 2010 18:08
 To:Nakamichi tapedecks naktalk at naks.com
<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk at naks.com> ; 
 Subject:[naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?

and does anyone believe this is a new unit? 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320516301110&ssPageName=
STRK:MEBIDX:IT> &item=320516301110&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT 

Roland 

Message: 4
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:28:22 -0700
From: Fred Longworth <classicaudiorepair at gmail.com
<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=classicaudiorepair at gmail.com>
>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com
<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk at naks.com> >
Message-ID:
    <r2se5ebe7c21004200828s1e00dd81u1b690cceed174185 at mail.gmail.com
<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=r2se5ebe7c21004200828s1e00dd81
u1b690cceed174185 at mail.gmail.com> >
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

There are two things that have my bullshit alarm going off.

The first is the $30.00 USPS shipping charge. USPS is the worst way of
shipping gear, as compared to UPS or Fed-Ex. No mention was made of
insurance.

The second is the dubious comment that he didn't have any way to hook it up
until he acquired a boom box. Who, in the modern age, *doesn't *have a
stereo or home-theater rig sitting somewhere in their home? -- or, for that
matter, a TV with a spare video input? After all, this is a person who *does
* own a digital camera and a computer. So . . . this man, allegedly the
spouse of a female pastor in a church, "fudged" on the truth.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com <http://www.repairaudio.com/> 


 


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From shoeihell at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 23 15:37:42 2010
From: shoeihell at yahoo.com (Kevin Fetner)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 06:37:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Anyone watching this auction?
In-Reply-To: <201004231017.o3NA8702003068@zxe.naks.com>
References: <201004231017.o3NA8702003068@zxe.naks.com>
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I don't think "rare" is a hot button term as much as 'just needs belt' etc. If it's something minor like they state, then they should have it fixed before sale. I've seen the term "rare" used subjectively...just because a unit doesn't show up everyday, doesn't make it rare. Rare to me would be if less than 50,000 units were ever made etc. "Rare" can also work against you if there are no parts available and you have to buy another as a donor.;-)


You can be colorful/inventive in your description, but you should always stay true to the facts.

Kevin


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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:58:56 -0700
From: "Bob 
Pierce" <rpierce000 at centurytel.net>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
To: "'Talk about 
Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
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Indeed, that is so, but when I describe a 
dbx 120x-ds as rare and wonderful
am I to far over the line? They are great units and I don’t see a lot of
them around, hence the 
description. When I just listed one with the unit
number I got $25 
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From mike.k.mitchell at boeing.com  Fri Apr 23 18:03:29 2010
From: mike.k.mitchell at boeing.com (Mitchell, Mike K)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:03:29 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Belts for Nakamichi 700
Message-ID: <D3B973AAB83A944F9DC5FA5CE236C2A773908049@XCH-SW-01V.sw.nos.boeing.com>

I've had my 700 for ~35 years now.  I would like to replace all the belts and other rubber (like the pinch rollers).  Where can I get all the belts and pinch rollers?




From ronami at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 23 18:28:45 2010
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:28:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Anyone watching this auction?
In-Reply-To: <207121.15257.qm@web65611.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
References: <201004231017.o3NA8702003068@zxe.naks.com>
	<207121.15257.qm@web65611.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <939406.65302.qm@web50403.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


'Rare' is certainly a buzz word. On ebay, it often 
is a blatant lie (for example, for a BX-100). It 
does make sense for collectors, though.

It's in the same class as 'I can't test it, but I did 
plug it in and the pilot lamp came on, so I am 
sure it's working fine' (meaning, there is 
definitely, absolutely, something wrong with it) 
and my favorite: 'there is this tiny problem, but I 
am sure it's a simple (or cheap or small) repair 
(meaning, there is definitely, absolutely, 
something wrong with it, and nobody can fix it).

Caveat emptor!

-- Ron 





________________________________
From: Kevin Fetner <shoeihell at yahoo.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com
Sent: Fri, April 23, 2010 9:37:42 AM
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Anyone watching this auction?


I don't think "rare" is a hot button term as much as 'just needs belt' etc. If it's something minor like they state, then they should have it fixed before sale. I've seen the term "rare" used subjectively...just because a unit doesn't show up everyday, doesn't make it rare. Rare to me would be if less than 50,000 units were ever made etc. "Rare" can also work against you if there are no parts available and you have to buy another as a donor.;-)


You can be colorful/inventive in your description, but you should always stay true to the facts.

Kevin


Message: 2
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:58:56 -0700
From: "Bob 
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Subject: RE: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
To: "'Talk about 
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Indeed, that is so, but when I describe a 
dbx 120x-ds as rare and wonderful
am I to far over the line? They are great units and I don’t see a lot of
them around, hence the 
description. When I just listed one with the unit
number I got $25 
less.



      
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From classicaudiorepair at gmail.com  Fri Apr 23 18:45:30 2010
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com (Fred Longworth)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:45:30 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Belts for Nakamichi 700
In-Reply-To: <D3B973AAB83A944F9DC5FA5CE236C2A773908049@XCH-SW-01V.sw.nos.boeing.com>
References: <D3B973AAB83A944F9DC5FA5CE236C2A773908049@XCH-SW-01V.sw.nos.boeing.com>
Message-ID: <j2me5ebe7c21004230945s51997991td16b2a2e88b9098e@mail.gmail.com>

Go to Marrs Communications eBay store. He has all the parts you need.

Fred Longworth
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

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mike.k.mitchell at boeing.com> wrote:

> I've had my 700 for ~35 years now.  I would like to replace all the belts
> and other rubber (like the pinch rollers).  Where can I get all the belts
> and pinch rollers?
>
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From frwhl at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 24 00:38:16 2010
From: frwhl at yahoo.com (eric benson)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 15:38:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk
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Does anyone have one extra bias cover cap for a ZX-7 or ZX-9, from a parted out deck, for sale?
 
Thanks

Eric


      
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From crazyuky at atlanticbb.net  Sat Apr 24 17:24:21 2010
From: crazyuky at atlanticbb.net (crazyuky at atlanticbb.net)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 11:24:21 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Nak dragon repairs
Message-ID: <ximss-18958005@be4.cluster1.echolabs.net>

I recently gotten a Nak Dragon.  I want to have it  tested and cleaned 
and/or repaired.  I live in South Florida, does anyone know if there is any 
Nak specialists down here?  If not the best places to ship my deck to get it 
taken care of.

Thank you,

Mark
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From mibm at tdcadsl.dk  Sat Apr 24 20:43:16 2010
From: mibm at tdcadsl.dk (Mikkel Breiler)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:43:16 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Anyone watching this auction?
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On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:08:40 -0400, Roland <rjlbjk at verizon.net> wrote:

>and does anyone believe this is a new unit?
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320516301110&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
>
.......
On Apr-15-10 at 08:15:13 PDT, seller added the following information:

When I took the additional pictures this morning, I thoroughly examined the unit to
see if there were any scratches or other flaws anywhere on the unit.  I could not
find any.

The person who owns the unit it is an older lady from our church who took it to our
church rummage sale.  I found out about it after the sale was over and it was left
unsold.  The lady said her husband bought it, then he died a sometime later without
ever even taking it out of the box.  It has sat in their bedroom for the last 25
years until she recently decided to donate it to the rummage sale.  I rescued it
after it did not sell for at least $100 and said I would put it on eBay for her as a
favor.  She said it was very expensive at the time of purchase - I suspect they may
have had words about that before her husband died. 

I'm the pastor's husband.  The proceeds will go to the lady who owns it.
............

Hehehe "un-be-liev-a-ble" as Andrew Dice Clay would say.

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From lenaw at flash.net  Sat Apr 24 23:57:58 2010
From: lenaw at flash.net (LENA WONG)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 14:57:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Nak dragon repairs
In-Reply-To: <ximss-18958005@be4.cluster1.echolabs.net>
Message-ID: <202940.13861.qm@web80201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Send it to Kannan S. He is a forum member here. He will respond to you if you ask. He will take care of it with reasonable price charged. However, his turnaround time may not be the fastest as he is travel during the weekday. I am in past customer and I am happy with his service on my DRAGON and it performs reliably since the last service by him ( three years ago ). He also performs a complete restoration on my 1000ZXL recently as well. Good luck.
 
 
Best Regards,
Mike 

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From: crazyuky at atlanticbb.net <crazyuky at atlanticbb.net>
Subject: [naktalk] Nak dragon repairs
To: naktalk at naks.com
Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 10:24 AM



I recently gotten a Nak Dragon. I want to have it tested and cleaned and/or repaired. I live in South Florida, does anyone know if there is any Nak specialists down here? If not the best places to ship my deck to get it taken care of.
 
Thank you,
 
Mark
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From hitech at birch.net  Mon Apr 26 19:24:38 2010
From: hitech at birch.net (tom brucker)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 12:24:38 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk
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Eric,
 I'll send you one free.

tom brucker
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  Does anyone have one extra bias cover cap for a ZX-7 or ZX-9, from a
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From kulak at ozemail.com.au  Tue Apr 27 00:52:50 2010
From: kulak at ozemail.com.au (Steve Kulak)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:52:50 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] Stephen Sank back in servicing Naks?
Message-ID: <6EB7EC5FCF08439BA3A1106D966DAA97@corp.halex.com.au>

Hi,

It apprears that Stephen Sank is back into servicing Nak Tape Decks, take a look at this current listing on Ebay.


http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Nakamichi-CR7-Reference-Stereo-Cassette-Tape-DeckRemote_W0QQitemZ220595831594QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVintage_Electronics_R2?hash=item335c89432a


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From lenaw at flash.net  Tue Apr 27 02:58:42 2010
From: lenaw at flash.net (LENA WONG)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 17:58:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Stephen Sank back in servicing Naks?
In-Reply-To: <6EB7EC5FCF08439BA3A1106D966DAA97@corp.halex.com.au>
Message-ID: <323229.41602.qm@web80206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

That is good news. Nice to have Steve back.

--- On Mon, 4/26/10, Steve Kulak <kulak at ozemail.com.au> wrote:


From: Steve Kulak <kulak at ozemail.com.au>
Subject: [naktalk] Stephen Sank back in servicing Naks?
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 5:52 PM





Hi,
 
It apprears that Stephen Sank is back into servicing Nak Tape Decks, take a look at this current listing on Ebay.
 
 
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Nakamichi-CR7-Reference-Stereo-Cassette-Tape-DeckRemote_W0QQitemZ220595831594QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVintage_Electronics_R2?hash=item335c89432a
 
 
Steve
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From luis at peromarta.org  Tue Apr 27 08:05:12 2010
From: luis at peromarta.org (Luis Peromarta Regert)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:05:12 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Stephen Sank back in servicing Naks?
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Yes, it's certainly the man himself.

El 27/04/2010, a las 00:52, Steve Kulak escribió:

> Hi,
>  
> It apprears that Stephen Sank is back into servicing Nak Tape Decks, take a look at this current listing on Ebay.
>  
>  
> http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Nakamichi-CR7-Reference-Stereo-Cassette-Tape-DeckRemote_W0QQitemZ220595831594QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVintage_Electronics_R2?hash=item335c89432a
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From wdrewes at iafrica.com  Tue Apr 27 07:14:32 2010
From: wdrewes at iafrica.com (Walter Drewes)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 07:14:32 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Stephen Sank back in servicing Naks?
References: <323229.41602.qm@web80206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <F3F0C19979DF41D9810305BA9EED8021@home>

Gentlemen(and ladies)
Just because Steve Sank gave a letter/serviced one deck (maybe a friends--or maybe from the old overload of work) it does not mean he is back to servicing Naks! I find it very strange that people can come to conclusions like that! The are still unks of unfinished work stretching over years that he has not cleared out ! Steve Sank is NOT BACK servicing all and sundries' Decks.! If it were so he would have released the message --believe you me!
Please accept he has a physical problem and cant cart my unrepaired or repaired deck for international shipping. ! (Apparently international shipping from the USA cannot be picked up at your own front door) That is why he has asked me to have it normally shipped in America (internally) sothat someone can reship it to me internationally ,for which he is prepared to pay! If that does not say it what does?
walter
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: LENA WONG 
  To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 2:58 AM
  Subject: Re: [naktalk] Stephen Sank back in servicing Naks?


        That is good news. Nice to have Steve back.

        --- On Mon, 4/26/10, Steve Kulak <kulak at ozemail.com.au> wrote:


          From: Steve Kulak <kulak at ozemail.com.au>
          Subject: [naktalk] Stephen Sank back in servicing Naks?
          To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
          Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 5:52 PM


          Hi,

          It apprears that Stephen Sank is back into servicing Nak Tape Decks, take a look at this current listing on Ebay.


          http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Nakamichi-CR7-Reference-Stereo-Cassette-Tape-DeckRemote_W0QQitemZ220595831594QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVintage_Electronics_R2?hash=item335c89432a


          Steve

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From wheijke at xs4all.nl  Tue Apr 27 09:09:23 2010
From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:09:23 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Stephen Sank back in servicing Naks?
In-Reply-To: <6EB7EC5FCF08439BA3A1106D966DAA97@corp.halex.com.au>
References: <6EB7EC5FCF08439BA3A1106D966DAA97@corp.halex.com.au>
Message-ID: <a75ce76d5e26b1053ab66e95a537dc6c.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>

Yes and he appears to be one of those people who shamelessly copy content
from a certain website and pastes it in his auction without crediting.
One of the reasons why this will not be possible anymore really soon i
predict!

Wouter

> Hi,
>
> It apprears that Stephen Sank is back into servicing Nak Tape Decks, take
> a look at this current listing on Ebay.
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Nakamichi-CR7-Reference-Stereo-Cassette-Tape-DeckRemote_W0QQitemZ220595831594QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVintage_Electronics_R2?hash=item335c89432a
>
>



From george.valkov at gmail.com  Tue Apr 27 10:44:43 2010
From: george.valkov at gmail.com (george valkov)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:44:43 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Stephen Sank back in servicing Naks?
In-Reply-To: <a75ce76d5e26b1053ab66e95a537dc6c.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
References: <6EB7EC5FCF08439BA3A1106D966DAA97@corp.halex.com.au> 
	<a75ce76d5e26b1053ab66e95a537dc6c.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <l2s518b7b11004270144taab6dc9bp61df17f60782d601@mail.gmail.com>

Wouter,

It's not his auction, although I appreciate your sentiment and sympathise
with it.

George

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Wouter Heijke <wheijke at xs4all.nl> wrote:

> Yes and he appears to be one of those people who shamelessly copy content
> from a certain website and pastes it in his auction without crediting.
> One of the reasons why this will not be possible anymore really soon i
> predict!
>
> Wouter
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > It apprears that Stephen Sank is back into servicing Nak Tape Decks, take
> > a look at this current listing on Ebay.
> >
> >
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Nakamichi-CR7-Reference-Stereo-Cassette-Tape-DeckRemote_W0QQitemZ220595831594QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVintage_Electronics_R2?hash=item335c89432a
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From kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 27 16:43:38 2010
From: kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com (kannan srinivasaraghavan)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 07:43:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Stephen Sank back in servicing Naks?
In-Reply-To: <F3F0C19979DF41D9810305BA9EED8021@home>
Message-ID: <567611.1395.qm@web33302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Surprise that he and his wife are engaged in making ribbon mikes in quantities/ replies messages in diyaudio site whenever CD player mods are mentioned ( including he offers to service museatex DACs) - I am watching this drama for sometime. I also see other items like DVD players serviced by him on ebay - but how do you believe that he has problem only in returning some of the old nak customer items - he cannot ask his wife to cart the deck to international shipper or his neighbour?
kannan

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From: Walter Drewes <wdrewes at iafrica.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Stephen Sank back in servicing Naks?
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 1:14 AM



Gentlemen(and ladies)
Just because Steve Sank gave a letter/serviced one deck (maybe a friends--or maybe from the old overload of work) it does not mean he is back to servicing Naks! I find it very strange that people can come to conclusions like that! The are still unks of unfinished work stretching over years that he has not cleared out ! Steve Sank is NOT BACK servicing all and sundries' Decks.! If it were so he would have released the message --believe you me!
Please accept he has a physical problem and cant cart my unrepaired or repaired deck for international shipping. ! (Apparently international shipping from the USA cannot be picked up at your own front door) That is why he has asked me to have it normally shipped in America (internally) sothat someone can reship it to me internationally ,for which he is prepared to pay! If that does not say it what does?
walter

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To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 2:58 AM
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Stephen Sank back in servicing Naks?





That is good news. Nice to have Steve back.

--- On Mon, 4/26/10, Steve Kulak <kulak at ozemail.com.au> wrote:


From: Steve Kulak <kulak at ozemail.com.au>
Subject: [naktalk] Stephen Sank back in servicing Naks?
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 5:52 PM





Hi,
 
It apprears that Stephen Sank is back into servicing Nak Tape Decks, take a look at this current listing on Ebay.
 
 
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Nakamichi-CR7-Reference-Stereo-Cassette-Tape-DeckRemote_W0QQitemZ220595831594QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVintage_Electronics_R2?hash=item335c89432a
 
 
Steve
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From kroger1032 at rogers.com  Wed Apr 28 03:23:17 2010
From: kroger1032 at rogers.com (KEVIN ROGERS)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:23:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Stephen Sank back in servicing Naks?
In-Reply-To: <F3F0C19979DF41D9810305BA9EED8021@home>
Message-ID: <943919.55194.qm@web88208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

You deal with Stephen Sank at your peril. If he can't ship internationally, that implies that he can within the US. The fact is that he has not. He has "misappropriated" by failing to return decks and then ignoring communications from people that I know (and me, but since I live in Canada and thus "international" I guess I am SOL) I can't say it any plainer. Yes, he is a good tech. That is no licence to steal.
 
Kevin Rogers

--- On Tue, 4/27/10, Walter Drewes <wdrewes at iafrica.com> wrote:


From: Walter Drewes <wdrewes at iafrica.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Stephen Sank back in servicing Naks?
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 5:14 AM



Gentlemen(and ladies)
Just because Steve Sank gave a letter/serviced one deck (maybe a friends--or maybe from the old overload of work) it does not mean he is back to servicing Naks! I find it very strange that people can come to conclusions like that! The are still unks of unfinished work stretching over years that he has not cleared out ! Steve Sank is NOT BACK servicing all and sundries' Decks.! If it were so he would have released the message --believe you me!
Please accept he has a physical problem and cant cart my unrepaired or repaired deck for international shipping. ! (Apparently international shipping from the USA cannot be picked up at your own front door) That is why he has asked me to have it normally shipped in America (internally) sothat someone can reship it to me internationally ,for which he is prepared to pay! If that does not say it what does?
walter

----- Original Message ----- 
From: LENA WONG 
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 2:58 AM
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Stephen Sank back in servicing Naks?





That is good news. Nice to have Steve back.

--- On Mon, 4/26/10, Steve Kulak <kulak at ozemail.com.au> wrote:


From: Steve Kulak <kulak at ozemail.com.au>
Subject: [naktalk] Stephen Sank back in servicing Naks?
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 5:52 PM





Hi,
 
It apprears that Stephen Sank is back into servicing Nak Tape Decks, take a look at this current listing on Ebay.
 
 
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Nakamichi-CR7-Reference-Stereo-Cassette-Tape-DeckRemote_W0QQitemZ220595831594QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVintage_Electronics_R2?hash=item335c89432a
 
 
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From charlesp at sfbrgenetics.org  Thu Apr 29 06:16:57 2010
From: charlesp at sfbrgenetics.org (Charles Peterson)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 23:16:57 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Need to get my Cassette Deck One fixed
Message-ID: <EDA09F87-7FCF-4682-922C-61D73BE5723B@sfbrgenetics.org>

Have a number of Naks, some working, some waiting for repair.

I got this Deck One on eBay a couple years ago, intended for getting the best playback of existing tapes, mainly for transcription to digital, thanks to playback azimuth control.  Sold as working, of course it didn't work.  RW and FF work but not play, could simply require idler wheel.  The deck is not a mint piece, with scratches on top, but it's not a rustbucket either.  IMO any decent Deck One is worthy of repair and refurb, it was one of the lesser known greats, now becoming not-so-lesser-known.  (I've also got a beautiful working RX-505 and a still-barely-working-with-bailing-wire-hacks 600 and a functional but not reversing RX-202 and a soon-to-be-sold factory-refurbished-in-box TD-500.  It's the pending sale of the TD-500 that has got me motivated to get my Deck One fixed, got to have SOMETHING with playback azimuth adjustment.)  I had hoped to get a Dragon for transcription purposes, but had back luck (won a rustbucket tape-eater, managed to get seller to take it back, that and looking at the service manual cured my Dragon itch).

So now I want to get it fixed, aligned, even limited refurb (replacement of rubber and most-likely-to-fail caps), but not full rebuild.  Good quality work at moderate cost.

Where can I get such repair-with-limited-refurb?

Charles




From willy at willyhermannservices.com  Thu Apr 29 17:50:39 2010
From: willy at willyhermannservices.com (Willy Hermann)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 07:50:39 -0800
Subject: [naktalk] Need to get my Cassette Deck One fixed
In-Reply-To: <EDA09F87-7FCF-4682-922C-61D73BE5723B@sfbrgenetics.org>
References: <EDA09F87-7FCF-4682-922C-61D73BE5723B@sfbrgenetics.org>
Message-ID: <x2j4b6f92901004290850ne6ec3254jca0406122d307b45@mail.gmail.com>

That's what I do.  Contact me off NakTalk if your interested.
Willy
www.willyhs.com

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Charles Peterson <charlesp at sfbrgenetics.org
> wrote:

> Have a number of Naks, some working, some waiting for repair.
>
> I got this Deck One on eBay a couple years ago, intended for getting the
> best playback of existing tapes, mainly for transcription to digital, thanks
> to playback azimuth control.  Sold as working, of course it didn't work.  RW
> and FF work but not play, could simply require idler wheel.  The deck is not
> a mint piece, with scratches on top, but it's not a rustbucket either.  IMO
> any decent Deck One is worthy of repair and refurb, it was one of the lesser
> known greats, now becoming not-so-lesser-known.  (I've also got a beautiful
> working RX-505 and a still-barely-working-with-bailing-wire-hacks 600 and a
> functional but not reversing RX-202 and a soon-to-be-sold
> factory-refurbished-in-box TD-500.  It's the pending sale of the TD-500 that
> has got me motivated to get my Deck One fixed, got to have SOMETHING with
> playback azimuth adjustment.)  I had hoped to get a Dragon for transcription
> purposes, but had back luck (won a rustbucket tape-eater, managed to get
> seller to take it bac!
>  k, that and looking at the service manual cured my Dragon itch).
>
> So now I want to get it fixed, aligned, even limited refurb (replacement of
> rubber and most-likely-to-fail caps), but not full rebuild.  Good quality
> work at moderate cost.
>
> Where can I get such repair-with-limited-refurb?
>
> Charles
>
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From jeff.geiger at lycos.com  Thu Apr 29 20:13:56 2010
From: jeff.geiger at lycos.com (jeff.geiger at lycos.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:13:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Need to get my Cassette Deck One fixed
In-Reply-To: <x2j4b6f92901004290850ne6ec3254jca0406122d307b45@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9924482.154671272564836731.JavaMail.root@mail-zbox2.bo3.lycos.com>

I, too, have a Nak that needs a little service, but I live in Virginia and would prefer someone local. Does anyone know of a decent Nak technician in the DC-Richmond area? 
Many years ago I bought a 1980 Nak 480z from a place in Bethesda, MD, but I can't recall the name and I doubt they deal with tape decks anymore. The unit I am using now is a 1995 DR-2 that just needs a basic "tune-up". I would also be interested in getting my 480z looked at. It wasn't sounding good, so I took it to a place in Richmond (that I suspect doesn't know much about tape decks). They told me the head was "old and beyond repair", but I would like a second opinion on that.  
Thanks.
-Jeff


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From: "Willy Hermann" <willy at willyhermannservices.com>
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 11:50:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Need to get my Cassette Deck One fixed


That's what I do.  Contact me off NakTalk if your interested. 
Willy 
www.willyhs.com 


On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Charles Peterson < charlesp at sfbrgenetics.org > wrote: 


Have a number of Naks, some working, some waiting for repair. 

I got this Deck One on eBay a couple years ago, intended for getting the best playback of existing tapes, mainly for transcription to digital, thanks to playback azimuth control.  Sold as working, of course it didn't work.  RW and FF work but not play, could simply require idler wheel.  The deck is not a mint piece, with scratches on top, but it's not a rustbucket either.  IMO any decent Deck One is worthy of repair and refurb, it was one of the lesser known greats, now becoming not-so-lesser-known.  (I've also got a beautiful working RX-505 and a still-barely-working-with-bailing-wire-hacks 600 and a functional but not reversing RX-202 and a soon-to-be-sold factory-refurbished-in-box TD-500.  It's the pending sale of the TD-500 that has got me motivated to get my Deck One fixed, got to have SOMETHING with playback azimuth adjustment.)  I had hoped to get a Dragon for transcription purposes, but had back luck (won a rustbucket tape-eater, managed to get seller to take it bac! 
 k, that and looking at the service manual cured my Dragon itch). 

So now I want to get it fixed, aligned, even limited refurb (replacement of rubber and most-likely-to-fail caps), but not full rebuild.  Good quality work at moderate cost. 

Where can I get such repair-with-limited-refurb? 

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From grahamanelson at googlemail.com  Fri Apr 30 13:35:13 2010
From: grahamanelson at googlemail.com (Graham @ Google)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 12:35:13 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] OT: Re animating Rechargeable batteries
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAB1N1xReb99Mt+xsBhy9otPCgAAAEAAAAKkz/veqUsBNiwugJhAr35wBAAAAAA==@googlemail.com>

I wonder if anyone can remember the advice of Stephan Sank with regard to reanimating Sony DAT rechargeable batteries that will not hold a charge.  I think  it involved using a P9 battery and contacting the _ and + of it on and off repeatedly with the - and + of the rechargeable battery.  I cannot recall what was the optimum number of times or.   Anyone?

Graham







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From davidt124 at internode.on.net  Mon Aug  2 12:05:24 2010
From: davidt124 at internode.on.net (David Thompson)
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 20:05:24 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 fade out
Message-ID: <C87CD584.2DAE%davidt124@internode.on.net>

I am having a problem with playback on my ZX-9.
When I play a tape, the sound soon starts to deteriorate and fades out,
usually taking 8 to 10 seconds. It does this with old Type 1 tapes and also
with newer Type 2 and 3 tapes. Strangely I have one XDR quality system tape
that takes a lot longer to fade but it does after a minute or so. I demagged
the heads but no different.

Yesterday, this all improved after the deck had been running for an hour but
not today. I left it running for 9 hours and then tried it but the fade
still occurs.

I would appreciate any clues on what to look for.

David




From paer.ericsson at blixtmail.se  Mon Aug  2 14:42:58 2010
From: paer.ericsson at blixtmail.se (=?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E4r_Ericsson?=)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 14:42:58 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 fade out
References: <C87CD584.2DAE%davidt124@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <E8CE3CEF0088457C8441EBCB81B887E5@superdator>

Sounds to me that the tape is not in good contact with the head. Try to 
clean the pressure rollers and head and check that the rollers
turns freely. If this does not help you need to check allignments of the 
mechanism. This could be tricky if you dont have the right tools.

Good luck/Pelle.


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From: "David Thompson" <davidt124 at internode.on.net>
To: <naktalk at naks.com>
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 12:05 PM
Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 fade out


>I am having a problem with playback on my ZX-9.
> When I play a tape, the sound soon starts to deteriorate and fades out,
> usually taking 8 to 10 seconds. It does this with old Type 1 tapes and 
> also
> with newer Type 2 and 3 tapes. Strangely I have one XDR quality system 
> tape
> that takes a lot longer to fade but it does after a minute or so. I 
> demagged
> the heads but no different.
>
> Yesterday, this all improved after the deck had been running for an hour 
> but
> not today. I left it running for 9 hours and then tried it but the fade
> still occurs.
>
> I would appreciate any clues on what to look for.
>
> David
>
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From kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  2 15:48:53 2010
From: kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com (kannan srinivasaraghavan)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 06:48:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 fade out
In-Reply-To: <E8CE3CEF0088457C8441EBCB81B887E5@superdator>
Message-ID: <342399.55246.qm@web33308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

It could be Capstan belt issue - 
The speed differential between capstans are not enough - also with ZX 9 DD motor
Kannan

--- On Mon, 8/2/10, Pär Ericsson <paer.ericsson at blixtmail.se> wrote:


From: Pär Ericsson <paer.ericsson at blixtmail.se>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-9 fade out
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 8:42 AM


Sounds to me that the tape is not in good contact with the head. Try to clean the pressure rollers and head and check that the rollers
turns freely. If this does not help you need to check allignments of the mechanism. This could be tricky if you dont have the right tools.

Good luck/Pelle.


----- Original Message ----- From: "David Thompson" <davidt124 at internode.on.net>
To: <naktalk at naks.com>
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 12:05 PM
Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 fade out


> I am having a problem with playback on my ZX-9.
> When I play a tape, the sound soon starts to deteriorate and fades out,
> usually taking 8 to 10 seconds. It does this with old Type 1 tapes and also
> with newer Type 2 and 3 tapes. Strangely I have one XDR quality system tape
> that takes a lot longer to fade but it does after a minute or so. I demagged
> the heads but no different.
> 
> Yesterday, this all improved after the deck had been running for an hour but
> not today. I left it running for 9 hours and then tried it but the fade
> still occurs.
> 
> I would appreciate any clues on what to look for.
> 
> David
> 
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From classicaudiorepair at gmail.com  Mon Aug  2 18:22:53 2010
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com (Fred Longworth)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 09:22:53 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 fade out
In-Reply-To: <C87CD584.2DAE%davidt124@internode.on.net>
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Check the pinch roller arm pivot bearings. These can get sticky and cause
the tape-to-tape-head contact pressure to go way down. In other words, the
tape will pull away slightly from the head, with resulting loss of amplitude
and frequency response.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

* * * * *

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 3:05 AM, David Thompson
<davidt124 at internode.on.net>wrote:

> I am having a problem with playback on my ZX-9.
> When I play a tape, the sound soon starts to deteriorate and fades out,
> usually taking 8 to 10 seconds. It does this with old Type 1 tapes and also
> with newer Type 2 and 3 tapes. Strangely I have one XDR quality system tape
> that takes a lot longer to fade but it does after a minute or so. I
> demagged
> the heads but no different.
>
> Yesterday, this all improved after the deck had been running for an hour
> but
> not today. I left it running for 9 hours and then tried it but the fade
> still occurs.
>
> I would appreciate any clues on what to look for.
>
> David
>
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From davidt124 at internode.on.net  Tue Aug  3 12:35:52 2010
From: davidt124 at internode.on.net (David Thompson)
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 20:35:52 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 fade
Message-ID: <C87E2E28.2DCB%davidt124@internode.on.net>

Thanks for the comments on this. John Gipps suggested a good clean of the
tape path. Several cleans of the rollers corrected the problem and it is
playing well again.

David

>Message: 1
>Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 20:05:24 +1000
>From: David Thompson <davidt124 at internode.on.net>
Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 fade out
>To: "naktalk at naks.com" <naktalk at naks.com>
>Message-ID: <C87CD584.2DAE%davidt124 at internode.on.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="US-ASCII"

>I am having a problem with playback on my ZX-9.
>When I play a tape, the sound soon starts to deteriorate and fades out,
usually taking 8 to 10 seconds. It does this with old Type 1 tapes and also
with newer Type 2 and 3 tapes. Strangely I have one XDR quality system tape
that takes a lot longer to fade but it does after a minute or so. I demagged
the heads but no different.

>Yesterday, this all improved after the deck had been running for an hour but
not today. I left it running for 9 hours and then tried it but the fade
still occurs.

>I would appreciate any clues on what to look for.
>
David




From ronami at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  3 17:47:23 2010
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 08:47:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] FS: Heathkit IT-12 signal tracer, fully restored,
	with manual.  
Message-ID: <927040.79799.qm@web50405.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

For sale, a fully restored Heathkit IT-12 Signal Tracer, 

in good working condition. Comes with a complete copy 

of the manual, also in good condition. Signal tracers are 
very useful for troubleshooting audio equipment, such as 
cassette decks. 



Just to explain what I mean by 'fully restored': I took 

the unit completely apart, down to the last screw, nut, 

resistor and cap (re-kitted it, so to speak). I 

Refurbished, cleaned, or repaired all parts, to get them 

to the best condition possible. Any that did not meet 

specs were replaced. All composition resistors were 

automatically replaced with deposited film type (that 

are far more stable), of same or tighter tolerance. The 

line cord was replaced with a polarized one. The probe, 

that originally was attached to the unit, is now removable 

(I used a 1/4" phono jack and plug). I then assembled the 

resulting 'kit'. Since then, the unit was lightly used.



For those that are not familiar with this very popular 

signal tracer, be aware that sound quality is not exactly 

'high fidelity'. There is some internal hum and distortion 

rises at high levels. Input sensitivity is high -- when testing 

a line level signal, the tracer volume control position will be 

at 5% to 10%. All this is on par with other IT-12 tracers.



Cosmetically, the unit is just fair. While the front 

panel was cleaned and buffed, it does have some 

blemishes (ask for photo). Operationally, the unit 

works fine. Input is very sensitive, as it should. The 

'magic eye' is nice and bright. I offer no warranty, 

except for the accuracy of the above. Sold 'as is'. 



$45 plus actual shipping of 5 lb. from zip 01702, as 
shown on the UPS web site..



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From laurenh at gmail.com  Tue Aug  3 21:17:01 2010
From: laurenh at gmail.com (Lauren Horn)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 11:17:01 -0800
Subject: [naktalk] FS: Heathkit IT-12 signal tracer, fully restored, with 
	manual.
In-Reply-To: <927040.79799.qm@web50405.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <927040.79799.qm@web50405.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8629814635121802206@unknownmsgid>

If you've had not takers yet, I'll bite.  What shipping works for you to
Anchorage, AK?  (99502)

On Aug 3, 2010, at 7:47 AM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

For sale, a fully restored Heathkit IT-12 Signal Tracer,
in good working condition. Comes with a complete copy
of the manual, also in good condition. Signal tracers are
very useful for troubleshooting audio equipment, such as
cassette decks.

Just to explain what I mean by 'fully restored': I took
the unit completely apart, down to the last screw, nut,
resistor and cap (re-kitted it, so to speak). I
Refurbished, cleaned, or repaired all parts, to get them
to the best condition possible. Any that did not meet
specs were replaced. All composition resistors were
automatically replaced with deposited film type (that
are far more stable), of same or tighter tolerance. The
line cord was replaced with a polarized one. The probe,
that originally was attached to the unit, is now removable
(I used a 1/4" phono jack and plug). I then assembled the
resulting 'kit'. Since then, the unit was lightly used.

For those that are not familiar with this very popular
signal tracer, be aware that sound quality is not exactly
'high fidelity'. There is some internal hum and distortion
rises at high levels. Input sensitivity is high -- when testing
a line level signal, the tracer volume control position will be
at 5% to 10%. All this is on par with other IT-12 tracers.

Cosmetically, the unit is just fair. While the front
panel was cleaned and buffed, it does have some
blemishes (ask for photo). Operationally, the unit
works fine. Input is very sensitive, as it should. The
'magic eye' is nice and bright. I offer no warranty,
except for the accuracy of the above. Sold 'as is'.

$45 plus actual shipping of 5 lb. from zip 01702, as
shown on the UPS web site..

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From mark8559 at hotmail.com  Wed Aug  4 23:22:07 2010
From: mark8559 at hotmail.com (Mark Exstedt)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 15:22:07 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] 600 Cassette Deck Stops While Playing a Cassette
Message-ID: <SNT111-W33793F5F8C1C32B1F6EB8ADBAF0@phx.gbl>



Upon receiving a Nakamichi 600 cassette deck, I noticed the rewind and tape counter wasn't working.
Removing the cover and doing a cleaning of the belt and pulley, the rewind now works properly. 
I'm not sure if this fixed the deck but it can rewind a 90 minute tape. 
Towards the end of the tape, the rewind is working sluggishly.

Anyway, one problem left -
The tape counter is not working. 
I removed the face plate and noticed this is a mechanical tape counter, therefore no belt is used. 
The tape counter works up to the point where it's slipping at the first wheel of numbers (0 - 9) on it. 
Playing a 90 minute tape, the tape plays fine, but goes into stop mode slightly over 1/2 through playing  
the tape. 
I played a cassette with 22 minutes on one side and it played all the way through.
It seems the deck is going into stop mode while playing a tape like the memory button is engaged, but 
it's not. 
All three different 90 minute tapes seemed to stop at the same point while playing.

Any advice on what to do or look for before disassembling the deck again and getting the counter to work?

Thank you.
 		 	   		  
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From westgateishere at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  5 00:53:43 2010
From: westgateishere at yahoo.com (jay knickerbocker)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 15:53:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] 600 Cassette Deck Stops While Playing a Cassette
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i had a similar issue with my 600 after it had been sat unused for 23 years(!), from 1981 until 2004.
it would only play for about 2 minutes before stopping.
so i had it rehabbed in 2004 by a regional repair service here in new england. unfortunately, i did not ask or get a detailed report on the repairs and i now wish i had done so.

they did say they had to 'make' some rubber part. so i don't really know, pinch roller? just a guess. at any rate, it's been running (and sounding) like a champ since the rehab. 
i try to listen to music on it a few times per month.

and speedy ff/rw on these decks has never been one of their stronger points (so the repair service tech told me). that issue was supposedly 'fixed' on the 60 II machines.

sorry to not be of more help. please keep us informed as to your progress.

--- On Wed, 8/4/10, Mark Exstedt <mark8559 at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Mark Exstedt <mark8559 at hotmail.com>
Subject: [naktalk] 600 Cassette Deck Stops While Playing a Cassette
To: naktalk at naks.com
Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 2:22 PM





Upon receiving a Nakamichi 600 cassette deck, I noticed the rewind and tape counter wasn't working.
Removing the cover and doing a cleaning of the belt and pulley, the rewind now works properly. 
I'm not sure if this fixed the deck but it can rewind a 90 minute tape. 
Towards the end of the tape, the rewind is working sluggishly.

Anyway, one problem left -
The tape counter is not working. 
I removed the face plate and noticed this is a mechanical tape counter, therefore no belt is used. 
The tape counter works up to the point where it's slipping at the first wheel of numbers (0 - 9) on it. 
Playing a 90 minute tape, the tape plays fine, but goes into stop mode slightly over 1/2 through playing  
the tape. 
I played a cassette with 22 minutes on one side and it played all the way through.
It seems the deck is going into stop mode while playing a tape like the memory button is engaged, but 
it's not. 
All three different 90 minute tapes seemed to stop at the same point while playing.

Any advice on what to do or look for before disassembling the deck again and getting the counter to work?

Thank you.
 		 	   		  

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From terry75115 at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  5 04:47:54 2010
From: terry75115 at yahoo.com (Terry Houchins)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 19:47:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Help needed with CR-7A
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I just bought a CR-7A Nakamichi recorder.
I found out that the FF/RW is not working.
Are there any step-by-step instructions that will show me how to fix this problem?
 
Any help is appreciated.
Terry
 
 


      
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  5 15:25:13 2010
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 06:25:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Help needed with CR-7A
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The two most likely faults that can cause this symptom 
are: one, a worn idler tire and two, a bad reel motor. 

Does the  deck reliably and consistently play tapes, 
start to finish? If so, the reel motor is less likely to be 
bad.

To check the idler, remove the cassette back-plate 
(remove the cassette door, then remove the two tiny 
screws at the top of the plate and gently pull it away). 
The idler is sitting dead center between the two hubs. 
If it's a white plastic gear, stop there -- it's not the 
cause of the problem. If its a wheel with a black rubber 
tire, clean the periphery of the tire and the two hubs 
with a Q-top damped with alcohol, again and again, 
until these surfaces are squeaky clean. This above 
has to be done very carefully -- if you break the flimsy 
idler supprt, the deck is in serious trouble, as the part 
is unobtainable.

If cleaning solves the problem (probably, temporarily) 
the idler has to be replaced. It's available on the 'inet 
for prices ranging from a few cents to a few dollars, as 
are instructions for doing it. (BTW, you may want to 
read these instruction even before starting, as they 
would cover accessing the idler in greater detail.)

If neither part is the faulty, the trouble is probably 
electronic and diagnosing it is beyond the capability 
of the average hobbyist.

Good luck,

-- Ron




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From: Terry Houchins <terry75115 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [naktalk] Help needed with CR-7A
To: "naktalk at naks.com" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 10:47 PM

I just bought a CR-7A Nakamichi recorder.
I found out that the FF/RW is not working.
Are there any step-by-step instructions that will show me how to fix this problem?
 
Any help is appreciated.
Terry
 
 


      
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From shorty1275nz at actrix.co.nz  Thu Aug  5 22:25:05 2010
From: shorty1275nz at actrix.co.nz (shorty1275nz at actrix.co.nz)
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 08:25:05 +1200 (NZST)
Subject: [naktalk] 600 Cassette Deck Stops While Playing a Cassette
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Mark,

>From your description, this is a common problem with the 600/600II.. had
this problem on all of mine. this is where I would look first: The
mechanical counter is belt driven off the left spool (IIRC) and the auto
stop is also mounted under and is part of the counter mechanism. When the
counter stops turning, the auto stop activates.......
Replace that that belt.. it is a bit fiddly.. and your deck should then
play right through to the end fine. Might as well do the capstan belt
whilst you are under the bonnet and give her a lube.

>From memory, the tape spools are direct driven, they have a rubber tyre
rim and that is possibly hardened or glazed... a good clean will help
improve the FF/RW performance.

These are great sounding, robust decks and despite their age, quite
serviceable. Love them.

Snaffle a copy of the SM from the Nak Wiki or ebaman as a guide. These
decks are not belt critical, but Fred sells good belt kits for these decks
if you want a one stop shop.

Good luck, cheers,

Martin



>
> Upon receiving a Nakamichi 600 cassette deck, I noticed the rewind and
> tape counter wasn't working.
> Removing the cover and doing a cleaning of the belt and pulley, the rewind
> now works properly.
> I'm not sure if this fixed the deck but it can rewind a 90 minute tape.
> Towards the end of the tape, the rewind is working sluggishly.
>
> Anyway, one problem left -
> The tape counter is not working.
> I removed the face plate and noticed this is a mechanical tape counter,
> therefore no belt is used.
> The tape counter works up to the point where it's slipping at the first
> wheel of numbers (0 - 9) on it.
> Playing a 90 minute tape, the tape plays fine, but goes into stop mode
> slightly over 1/2 through playing
> the tape.
> I played a cassette with 22 minutes on one side and it played all the way
> through.
> It seems the deck is going into stop mode while playing a tape like the
> memory button is engaged, but
> it's not.
> All three different 90 minute tapes seemed to stop at the same point while
> playing.
>
> Any advice on what to do or look for before disassembling the deck again
> and getting the counter to work?
>
> Thank you.
>




From srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com  Thu Aug  5 14:55:46 2010
From: srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com (Seshadri, Srinath)
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 08:55:46 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Help needed with BX-125
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I just got one of those and it seems to have a rewind problem.

It seems to try to rewind but does not.

Is this the dreaded transport problem ?

 

Now it plays and forwards well though.

Thanks.

Srinath.

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From ronami at yahoo.com  Sat Aug  7 03:46:37 2010
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 18:46:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Help needed with BX-125
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This could very well be a worn idler tire. Why 'dreaded'? 
A new tire was less than a buck, last I looked, and takes
but a few minutes to replace.

-- Ron





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From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
Subject: [naktalk] Help needed with BX-125
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 8:55 AM




 
 






I just got one of those and it seems to have a rewind problem. 

It seems to try to rewind but does not. 

Is this the dreaded transport problem ? 

   

Now it plays and forwards well though. 

Thanks. 

Srinath. 




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From classicaudiorepair at gmail.com  Sat Aug  7 08:17:51 2010
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com (Fred Longworth)
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 23:17:51 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Help needed with BX-125
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I have found that replacing the idler tire must be done very carefully, or
the idler arm assembly can be damaged. This is particularly common when
someone tries to replace the tire in situ, rather that removing the idler
from its shaft. It's also important not to lose the retainer that holds the
idler on its shaft. I've seen amazing substitutes by other so-called "techs"
when the retainer got lost in the carpet.

Finally there are several tires available online. Those from Marrs
Communications are best.

Fred
(who will soon be doing an "orange film capacitor" mass replacement on a
customer's BX-300.)
www.repairaudio.com

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> This could very well be a worn idler tire. Why 'dreaded'?
> A new tire was less than a buck, last I looked, and takes
> but a few minutes to replace.
>
> -- Ron
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
> Subject: [naktalk] Help needed with BX-125
> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
> Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 8:55 AM
>
>  I just got one of those and it seems to have a rewind problem.
>
> It seems to try to rewind but does not.
>
> Is this the dreaded transport problem ?
>
>
>
> Now it plays and forwards well though.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Srinath.
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From srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com  Sat Aug  7 06:26:00 2010
From: srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com (Seshadri, Srinath)
Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2010 00:26:00 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Help needed with BX-125
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I thought the "transport mechanism" was something else, like the entire
moving assembly - idler Let me look in it Thanks so much.

Srinath.

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On
Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 9:47 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Help needed with BX-125

 


This could very well be a worn idler tire. Why 'dreaded'? 
A new tire was less than a buck, last I looked, and takes
but a few minutes to replace.

-- Ron





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From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
Subject: [naktalk] Help needed with BX-125
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 8:55 AM

I just got one of those and it seems to have a rewind problem.

It seems to try to rewind but does not.

Is this the dreaded transport problem ?

 

Now it plays and forwards well though.

Thanks.

Srinath.

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From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com (Fred Longworth)
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 10:53:06 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Help needed with BX-125
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The "transport mechanism" is a curious term. Commonly, it refers to the
entire mechanism that *moves the tape --* hence, the word "transport".
Technically, the heads would not be part of the transport mechanism; but
most people would consider them to be so.

A similar expression is "tape drive."

The term originated back in reel-to-reel days, when, quite frequently, the
mechanical section that ran the tape was physically separate from the "box"
that contained the electronics.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
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On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Seshadri, Srinath <
srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> wrote:

>  I thought the “transport mechanism” was something else, like the entire
> moving assembly – idler Let me look in it Thanks so much.
>
> Srinath.
>
>
>
> *From:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Ron
> *Sent:* Friday, August 06, 2010 9:47 PM
>
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] Help needed with BX-125
>
>
>
>
> This could very well be a worn idler tire. Why 'dreaded'?
> A new tire was less than a buck, last I looked, and takes
> but a few minutes to replace.
>
> -- Ron
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Thu, 8/5/10, Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com
> >* wrote:
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> From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
> Subject: [naktalk] Help needed with BX-125
> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
> Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 8:55 AM
>
> I just got one of those and it seems to have a rewind problem.
>
> It seems to try to rewind but does not.
>
> Is this the dreaded transport problem ?
>
>
>
> Now it plays and forwards well though.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Srinath.
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From mibm at tdcadsl.dk  Sun Aug  8 12:06:45 2010
From: mibm at tdcadsl.dk (Mikkel Breiler)
Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2010 12:06:45 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Dragon oditty
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:51:29 -0700 (PDT), Steve Kulak <nakhead at y7mail.com> wrote:

>Has any one  seen  this  Modification  on a Dragon before  and know  what  the 
>Mod  is or its function   ?

So did you find out what it does / is for?

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From ronami at yahoo.com  Sun Aug  8 15:28:06 2010
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 06:28:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] FS: Nakamichi BX-100, black, excellent condition 
Message-ID: <423795.24997.qm@web50406.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

For sale: a very nice Nakamichi BX-100 deck. Black. Made

for 120VAC power line. Includes copies of both the Owner's

and service manuals.



Cosmetically very clean, in and out. No scratches anywhere.

Some very slight discoloring due to age. Mechanical condition

is also very good, with clean capstans, good pinch rollers and

no visible head wear at all. The idler tire is new. Operationally,

everything works well, sounds like it should. Manufactured in

the 3rd quarter of 1986.



For further description and picture please see the naks.com site.

(I could provide a picture of this specific deck, but it won't look

any different than a stock picture).



Asking $65 plus actual shipping (or pick up in the Boston

Metro west area, ZIP 01702)



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From terry75115 at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  9 00:37:38 2010
From: terry75115 at yahoo.com (Terry Houchins)
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 15:37:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] HELP needed with IDLER WHEEL
Message-ID: <673079.68558.qm@web56405.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

I screwed up.
First I lost the small milky white washer on the idler wheel.
Then second, I lost the whole idler wheel.
Because I didn't have the washer on there, the idler wheel fell out and I can't find it anywhere.
 
So, can someone help me?
The Nakamichi I'm working on is a CR-7A.
Does anyone have a spare idler wheel (with washer) they can sell me?
If not, will a BX-1 idler wheel work just as well?
 
Any help is appreciated.
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From classicaudiorepair at gmail.com  Mon Aug  9 02:16:30 2010
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com (Fred Longworth)
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 17:16:30 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] HELP needed with IDLER WHEEL
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Terry, I hate to say this . . . but when I drop something crucial to a
mechanism at my repair shop, I keep looking until I find it.

Place a towel on the work table, pick up the CR-7A, turn it upside down and
shake it. Give it a gentle slap on the sidepanel. Things often fall inside
machines and get lodged somewhere -- shaking teases them out.

If I know where something dropped from, I'll sometimes drop another thing,
and watch where it bounces or rolls to.

If I know it's on the floor, I'll grub around the floor with a flashlight.
If it's a hard floor, I'll sweep the area into a dustpan. If carpeting, I'll
use one of those manual carpet sweepers.

Hope this helps.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Terry Houchins <terry75115 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I screwed up.
> First I lost the small milky white washer on the idler wheel.
> Then second, I lost the whole idler wheel.
> Because I didn't have the washer on there, the idler wheel fell out and I
> can't find it anywhere.
>
> So, can someone help me?
> The Nakamichi I'm working on is a CR-7A.
> Does anyone have a spare idler wheel (with washer) they can sell me?
> If not, will a BX-1 idler wheel work just as well?
>
> Any help is appreciated.
> Terry
>
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From David.King at usq.edu.au  Mon Aug  9 02:34:23 2010
From: David.King at usq.edu.au (David King)
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 10:34:23 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] Question for the Nak refurbishers
Message-ID: <64125E0F9679D94686FAA7E52B4A16AB0CFC854D1E@EXCHMB.usq.edu.au>

Hi all

I am seeking some comments from the general Nak community, particularly those engaged in refurbishing older units to their former glory.  In particular, your past experience with playback head wear and general condition.  Thus far I have refurbished a 481, 482, a 670 and am about to do my own ZX-9 which I have owned from new.  The interesting observation I have made in all three of the older Naks I have worked on is that the PB head is quite worn, and in every case it has been the right channel that suffers the most.  For example, with the equaliser resistors set to default and the gap compensation resistors in the 'un-shorted' state, the left channel of the above mentioned units all have a frequency response of no worse than -1.5dB to -2 dB below -20dB reference level right out to 20kHz.  The right channel however, in all three decks shows a fall off in some cases as bad as -12dB at 15kHz and above.  When inspected closely, wear can certainly be seen with a flattening out of the profile towards the centre of the head.  I have also swapped head wires and in every case can confirm that the channel electronics are fine.  All of these decks have been mechanically refurbished and had all polypropylene and key coupling caps replaced.   I am using a response tape made on my ZX-9 (which is in excellent condition with no visible head wear due to low hours), and have confirmed that the levels on tape a equal between channels...I am also using a 'Luis' 15kHz azimuth tape which quickly shows the deficiency on the right channel at that spot frequency.  All frequencies below about 8kHz are essentially flat on both channels.  My questions to those refurbishing these units are:-

Do you find that it is the right channel that presents with the most wear and/or gap loss in these old units?
Do you content yourselves with equaliser adjustments and compensating for gap loss to flatten out the response as much as possible?
Does anybody try the as yet unsuccessful (for me anyway) method of purchasing parts only decks of the same age in the optimistic hope that the PB heads may be in better condition?
Have I just been unlucky with my purchases in terms of head wear?


In every other respect these desks are in immaculate condition...well looked after (except the parts decks).

Sorry for the long post, but I am interesting in hearing anyone's comments.   By way of background, I don't own a T-100, but have access to all other test gear including RTA analyser, oscilloscope, test oscillators, Willy's alignment gauge, a set of Luis's home made alignment tapes, along with my own made on the ZX-9.  I don't unfortunately own any genuine Nak alignment tapes, or any of the Nak gauges.  However I have enough I think to reliably observe this consistent asymmetric head wear.

Thanks for any comments you may have on this...

Regards

David


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From perry.nak at comcast.net  Mon Aug  9 11:47:53 2010
From: perry.nak at comcast.net (perry.nak at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 09:47:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 and Dragon parts needed
Message-ID: <1982921011.1444416.1281347273335.JavaMail.root@sz0163a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Does anyone have for sale, or know of a suitable replacement or source for the opto coupler found on the switch PCB of a ZX-7 (or ZX-9, same board/part)? It is listed as part Cds1. I would be willing to purchase the whole PCB, or possibly the whole parts deck (I could use a logic/power supply board too!). Without a working opto coupler you can never record, only the cal tones record. And a year plus later, I'm STILL looking for a rewind button (double arrows pointing left) for a Dragon, just the part you push (and any spring assembly behind it, no electronics). I had a switch lined up and we traded emails for months, but he would never give me a price and just stopped answering emails. 
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From r1seals at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  9 14:13:13 2010
From: r1seals at yahoo.com (Russ Seals)
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 05:13:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] HELP needed with IDLER WHEEL
In-Reply-To: <673079.68558.qm@web56405.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <675948.19276.qm@web50007.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Wow well that little washer is some times a bit of a pain in the neck to get off but someone on this site or maybe somewhere else said you could use some scotch tape to keep it from going air born. Now about the Idler tire yea I think the tire and washer will work of the BX-1 or you can get both these off ebay  good luck  Russ 

--- On Sun, 8/8/10, Terry Houchins <terry75115 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Terry Houchins <terry75115 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [naktalk] HELP needed with IDLER WHEEL
To: "naktalk at naks.com" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Sunday, August 8, 2010, 5:37 PM

I screwed up.
First I lost the small milky white washer on the idler wheel.
Then second, I lost the whole idler wheel.
Because I didn't have the washer on there, the idler wheel fell out and I can't find it anywhere.
 
So, can someone help me?
The Nakamichi I'm working on is a CR-7A.
Does anyone have a spare idler wheel (with washer) they can sell me?
If not, will a BX-1 idler wheel work just as well?
 
Any help is appreciated.
Terry
 


      
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  9 15:24:32 2010
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 06:24:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] HELP needed with IDLER WHEEL
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> ... will a BX-1 idler wheel work just as well?

The P/N for the BX-1 and CR-7 reel motor assemblies are 
not the same. However, the two are very similar, so, if I 
were in your predicament, I would certainly try it.

I've seen the retainer washer for sale for $3. Sorry, can't 
remember where. 

BTW, when replacing the idler and retainer washer, do be 
extra careful not to break the idler arm.  It's very flimsy and 
replacement is at least as diffucult to find as the idelr itself.

-- Ron





--- On Sun, 8/8/10, Terry Houchins <terry75115 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Terry Houchins <terry75115 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [naktalk] HELP needed with IDLER WHEEL
To: "naktalk at naks.com" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Sunday, August 8, 2010, 6:37 PM

I screwed up.
First I lost the small milky white washer on the idler wheel.
Then second, I lost the whole idler wheel.
Because I didn't have the washer on there, the idler wheel fell out and I can't find it anywhere.
 
So, can someone help me?
The Nakamichi I'm working on is a CR-7A.
Does anyone have a spare idler wheel (with washer) they can sell me?
If not, will a BX-1 idler wheel work just as well?
 
Any help is appreciated.
Terry
 


      
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From jmlevitz at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  9 15:01:17 2010
From: jmlevitz at yahoo.com (jayson levitz)
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 06:01:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] HELP needed with IDLER WHEEL
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Terry, try Jeff Galin at Electronics Service Labs (eslabs.com) at 860-529-3700.  
He has a large supply of original Nak parts, and might have these. 


Jayson




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From: Terry Houchins <terry75115 at yahoo.com>
To: "naktalk at naks.com" <naktalk at naks.com>
Sent: Sun, August 8, 2010 6:37:38 PM
Subject: [naktalk] HELP needed with IDLER WHEEL


I screwed up.
First I lost the small milky white washer on the idler wheel.
Then second, I lost the whole idler wheel.
Because I didn't have the washer on there, the idler wheel fell out and I can't 
find it anywhere.

So, can someone help me?
The Nakamichi I'm working on is a CR-7A.
Does anyone have a spare idler wheel (with washer) they can sell me?
If not, will a BX-1 idler wheel work just as well?

Any help is appreciated.
Terry


      
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From westgateishere at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  9 15:26:07 2010
From: westgateishere at yahoo.com (jay knickerbocker)
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 06:26:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] HELP needed with IDLER WHEEL
In-Reply-To: <675948.19276.qm@web50007.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <913655.12600.qm@web65411.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

mr. houchins, not sure if this applies to your deck but here is an i-tire replacement guide courtesy of ESL, http://www.eslabs.com/idler.htm

--- On Mon, 8/9/10, Russ Seals <r1seals at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Russ Seals <r1seals at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] HELP needed with IDLER WHEEL
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Monday, August 9, 2010, 5:13 AM

Wow well that little washer is some times a bit of a pain in the neck to get off but someone on this site or maybe somewhere else said you could use some scotch tape to keep it from going air born. Now about the Idler tire yea I think the tire and washer will work of the BX-1 or you can get both these off ebay  good luck  Russ 

--- On Sun, 8/8/10, Terry Houchins <terry75115 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Terry Houchins <terry75115 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [naktalk] HELP needed with IDLER WHEEL
To: "naktalk at naks.com" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Sunday, August 8, 2010, 5:37 PM

I screwed up.
First I lost the small milky white washer on the idler wheel.
Then second, I lost the whole idler wheel.
Because I didn't have the washer on there, the idler wheel fell out and I can't find it anywhere.
 
So, can someone help me?
The Nakamichi I'm working on is a CR-7A.
Does anyone have a spare idler wheel (with washer) they can sell me?
If not, will a BX-1 idler wheel work just as well?
 
Any help is appreciated.
Terry
 


      
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From kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  9 17:53:27 2010
From: kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com (kannan srinivasaraghavan)
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 08:53:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Help needed with BX-125
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Hi Fred
I have never found any Orange Caps on BX300 giving problems - surprsingly ony older Nak transport machines like 680/670/582/480/ZX7/9 and 700/1000ZXL 700ZXE all show orange cap failing including Older Dragons while none of the Sankyo transport machines never had shown orange cap issues. 
 
Kannan

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From: Fred Longworth <classicaudiorepair at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Help needed with BX-125
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Saturday, August 7, 2010, 2:17 AM


I have found that replacing the idler tire must be done very carefully, or the idler arm assembly can be damaged. This is particularly common when someone tries to replace the tire in situ, rather that removing the idler from its shaft. It's also important not to lose the retainer that holds the idler on its shaft. I've seen amazing substitutes by other so-called "techs" when the retainer got lost in the carpet.

Finally there are several tires available online. Those from Marrs Communications are best.

Fred
(who will soon be doing an "orange film capacitor" mass replacement on a customer's BX-300.)
www.repairaudio.com


On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:






This could very well be a worn idler tire. Why 'dreaded'? 
A new tire was less than a buck, last I looked, and takes
but a few minutes to replace.

-- Ron





--- On Thu, 8/5/10, Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> wrote:


From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
Subject: [naktalk] Help needed with BX-125
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 8:55 AM




I just got one of those and it seems to have a rewind problem.
It seems to try to rewind but does not.
Is this the dreaded transport problem ?
 
Now it plays and forwards well though.
Thanks.
Srinath.

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From gerhard.wartha at gmail.com  Mon Aug  9 19:42:49 2010
From: gerhard.wartha at gmail.com (Gerhard Wartha)
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 19:42:49 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Question for the Nak refurbishers
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Am 09.08.2010 um 02:34 schrieb David King:

> Hi david King,

You can check your heads by change the  cannel from left to right.

Pull the pb head connector from the pb amplifier, read the Service  
Manual to

do the change  between the channels only . Not from minus to plus !

Use a 400 hz Test  tape first,  after that the 15kHz Test tape to  
align. Check the head performances  that way.

If  your Nak Problem  does does not go from right to the left cannel,  
check the electronics again.

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From kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  9 21:04:22 2010
From: kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com (kannan srinivasaraghavan)
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 12:04:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Question for the Nak refurbishers
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For Naks, the head intgrity is checked by Nak reference 400 Hz tape first and adjusting the playback level to make it 0dB. IF the playback preset ( that much deviation is allowed!) is not achieving this result, then the head is faulty.
 
The HF response will have to be adjusted by the shorting resistor as around -2 to -3 dB is normally allowed for any play head. I do not see this as- head needing replacement !
I had once replaced  a Dragon playhead , within about 10 hrs of play HF response was not near the same between Left and right. That is why the shorting resistors are present!
Finally you need exteremly wide bandwidth Multimeter to check 20 Khz response along with brand new coupling and equalizing caps/inductors in the entire nak playback chain ( contains a good number of caps! they are all responsible for what you observe) Good reason to replace all of them if you want fantastic HF response! 
Number of times the response deviations are due to the components than the head !
( if they are showing within + or -2 db response deviations ( remember -3 db is about 50% of the signal !) they are fine.  If you cannot adjust the response within -2db that means still +or -1db between channels are acceptable- then only the Head is not OK. I have never observed the type of deviation you note ( looks to me you need Nak test tapes and gauges first). also please read 1000 ZXL play /record head alignment procedure to understand what I mean.
 
The azimuth tape is supposed to be used only 5 or 6 times maximum as 15 khz or 20 Khz azimuth tape itself looses its HF response as you use. Finally I cannot accept any other replacement tape other than Nakamichi reference tape as acceptable for this test ( Tape integrity cannot be gauranteed) I am not saying that Louis Tapes cannot be used but I cannot gaurantee the results with such tapes as much as the Nakmichi original tapes. I have not seen so far one replacement for Nakmichi original tapes as good. Play the Nakmichi original tape and observe the output on an Oscilloscope and compare tapes made on Nakmichi decks you will understand what I mean
 
Kannan
  

--- On Sun, 8/8/10, David King <David.King at usq.edu.au> wrote:


From: David King <David.King at usq.edu.au>
Subject: [naktalk] Question for the Nak refurbishers
To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Sunday, August 8, 2010, 8:34 PM








Hi all
 
I am seeking some comments from the general Nak community, particularly those engaged in refurbishing older units to their former glory.  In particular, your past experience with playback head wear and general condition.  Thus far I have refurbished a 481, 482, a 670 and am about to do my own ZX-9 which I have owned from new.  The interesting observation I have made in all three of the older Naks I have worked on is that the PB head is quite worn, and in every case it has been the right channel that suffers the most.  For example, with the equaliser resistors set to default and the gap compensation resistors in the ‘un-shorted’ state, the left channel of the above mentioned units all have a frequency response of no worse than -1.5dB to -2 dB below -20dB reference level right out to 20kHz.  The right channel however, in all three decks shows a fall off in some cases as bad as -12dB at 15kHz and above.  When inspected closely, wear can certainly
 be seen with a flattening out of the profile towards the centre of the head.  I have also swapped head wires and in every case can confirm that the channel electronics are fine.  All of these decks have been mechanically refurbished and had all polypropylene and key coupling caps replaced.   I am using a response tape made on my ZX-9 (which is in excellent condition with no visible head wear due to low hours), and have confirmed that the levels on tape a equal between channels…I am also using a ‘Luis’ 15kHz azimuth tape which quickly shows the deficiency on the right channel at that spot frequency.  All frequencies below about 8kHz are essentially flat on both channels.  My questions to those refurbishing these units are:-
 
Do you find that it is the right channel that presents with the most wear and/or gap loss in these old units?
Do you content yourselves with equaliser adjustments and compensating for gap loss to flatten out the response as much as possible?
Does anybody try the as yet unsuccessful (for me anyway) method of purchasing parts only decks of the same age in the optimistic hope that the PB heads may be in better condition?
Have I just been unlucky with my purchases in terms of head wear?
 
 
In every other respect these desks are in immaculate condition…well looked after (except the parts decks). 
 
Sorry for the long post, but I am interesting in hearing anyone’s comments.   By way of background, I don’t own a T-100, but have access to all other test gear including RTA analyser, oscilloscope, test oscillators, Willy’s alignment gauge, a set of Luis’s home made alignment tapes, along with my own made on the ZX-9.  I don’t unfortunately own any genuine Nak alignment tapes, or any of the Nak gauges.  However I have enough I think to reliably observe this consistent asymmetric head wear.
 
Thanks for any comments you may have on this…
 
Regards 
 
David
 

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From srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com  Mon Aug  9 18:34:34 2010
From: srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com (Seshadri, Srinath)
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2010 12:34:34 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Help needed with BX-125
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Sankyo transport - well, I have one of those in my HK CD391. It isn't
ejecting tapes without being knocked in a "certain spot" on the door.

Cool.

Srinath.

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On
Behalf Of kannan srinivasaraghavan
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 11:53 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Help needed with BX-125

 

Hi Fred

I have never found any Orange Caps on BX300 giving problems -
surprsingly ony older Nak transport machines like 680/670/582/480/ZX7/9
and 700/1000ZXL 700ZXE all show orange cap failing including Older
Dragons while none of the Sankyo transport machines never had shown
orange cap issues. 

 

Kannan

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	From: Fred Longworth <classicaudiorepair at gmail.com>
	Subject: Re: [naktalk] Help needed with BX-125
	To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
	Date: Saturday, August 7, 2010, 2:17 AM

	I have found that replacing the idler tire must be done very
carefully, or the idler arm assembly can be damaged. This is
particularly common when someone tries to replace the tire in situ,
rather that removing the idler from its shaft. It's also important not
to lose the retainer that holds the idler on its shaft. I've seen
amazing substitutes by other so-called "techs" when the retainer got
lost in the carpet.
	
	Finally there are several tires available online. Those from
Marrs Communications are best.
	
	Fred
	(who will soon be doing an "orange film capacitor" mass
replacement on a customer's BX-300.)
	www.repairaudio.com <http://www.repairaudio.com/> 

	On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com
<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ronami at yahoo.com> > wrote:


This could very well be a worn idler tire. Why 'dreaded'? 
A new tire was less than a buck, last I looked, and takes
but a few minutes to replace.

-- Ron





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<srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com
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<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=srinath.seshadri at bankofame
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Subject: [naktalk] Help needed with BX-125
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com
<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk at naks.com> >
Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 8:55 AM

I just got one of those and it seems to have a rewind problem.

It seems to try to rewind but does not.

Is this the dreaded transport problem ?

 

Now it plays and forwards well though.

Thanks.

Srinath.

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From westgateishere at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  9 19:36:31 2010
From: westgateishere at yahoo.com (jay knickerbocker)
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 10:36:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Fw: Re: [naktalk] HELP needed with IDLER WHEEL
Message-ID: <279600.52417.qm@web65410.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

Also, this guy, dean, has tires and washers. i use them and they seem to be pretty good.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nakamichi-Idler-Tire-make-your-deck-run-Great-again-/170388618671?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0.


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From: jay knickerbocker <westgateishere at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] HELP needed with IDLER WHEEL
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Monday, August 9, 2010, 6:26 AM

mr. houchins, not sure if this applies to your deck but here is an i-tire replacement guide courtesy of ESL, http://www.eslabs.com/idler.htm

--- On Mon, 8/9/10, Russ Seals <r1seals at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Russ Seals <r1seals at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] HELP needed with IDLER WHEEL
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Monday, August 9, 2010, 5:13 AM

Wow well that little washer is some times a bit of a pain in the neck to get off but someone on this site or maybe
 somewhere else said you could use some scotch tape to keep it from going air born. Now about the Idler tire yea I think the tire and washer will work of the BX-1 or you can get both these off ebay  good luck  Russ 

--- On Sun, 8/8/10, Terry Houchins <terry75115 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Terry Houchins <terry75115 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [naktalk] HELP needed with IDLER WHEEL
To: "naktalk at naks.com" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Sunday, August 8, 2010, 5:37 PM

I screwed up.
First I lost the small milky white washer on the idler wheel.
Then second, I lost the whole idler wheel.
Because I didn't have the washer on there, the idler wheel fell out and I can't find it anywhere.
 
So, can someone help me?
The Nakamichi I'm working on is a CR-7A.
Does anyone have a spare idler wheel (with washer) they can sell me?
If not, will a BX-1 idler wheel work just as well?
 
Any help is appreciated.
Terry
 


      
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From paer.ericsson at blixtmail.se  Mon Aug  9 20:20:01 2010
From: paer.ericsson at blixtmail.se (=?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E4r_Ericsson?=)
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 20:20:01 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] HELP needed with IDLER WHEEL
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Hi Terry!

I have plenty of wheels and washers! Send me your adress to paringemar at spray.se and i will send it to you.

Regards Pelle.
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        I screwed up.
        First I lost the small milky white washer on the idler wheel.
        Then second, I lost the whole idler wheel.
        Because I didn't have the washer on there, the idler wheel fell out and I can't find it anywhere.

        So, can someone help me?
        The Nakamichi I'm working on is a CR-7A.
        Does anyone have a spare idler wheel (with washer) they can sell me?
        If not, will a BX-1 idler wheel work just as well?

        Any help is appreciated.
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From perry.nak at comcast.net  Tue Aug 10 08:20:28 2010
From: perry.nak at comcast.net (perry.nak at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 06:20:28 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] Never mind on the opto coupler
Message-ID: <1564408753-1281421229-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1792017910-@bda950.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Thanks to our own John Gipps, I've found that the 7914F CdS LDR (CdS301) is easily repairable by replacing the LED. In addition a little sleuthing uncovered that any classic transport Nak with Fade uses the exact same component. I pulled one from a parts 505, in perfect shape. STILL looking for that Dragon button though, buy, trade, whatever!!! Calibrate a deck for free for you...Thanks!
Perry Esposito - From my phone


From perry.nak at comcast.net  Tue Aug 10 08:30:29 2010
From: perry.nak at comcast.net (perry.nak at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 06:30:29 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] Question for Nak Refurbishers
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John Gipps in Brisbane would have the best local to you source for heads if one existed and the most experience with wear. I personally have not refurbed anything older than a 660zx..so no head wear. In general though, I'm not surprised at your find. Most every Nak I've adjusted tilt on was tilted with the outside of the head away from the tape so the left channel would have less wear. In general actual tape tension tends to be consistently higher towards the center of the tape, and tape pad lifters do not allow equal wear in this kind of scenario. If you remove the pad lifters from the head you would equalize, but increase, overall head wear.
Perry Esposito - From my phone


From David.King at usq.edu.au  Tue Aug 10 00:31:09 2010
From: David.King at usq.edu.au (David King)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 08:31:09 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Re:Question for the Nak refurbishers
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Hi Bala

Thanks for the reply.

Your comments are what I would have thought also.  I think I have just been unlucky.  The decks I am refurbishing are all in very good condition otherwise.  Yes the pressure pad lifters were in position.  I have no way of knowing what previous owner /s may have done, but clearly the heads have had a lot of use.  I would have thought that the wear would have been even across the channels, with the gap width opening up equally on left and right tracks….more or less.  Attached is a photo of one of the PB heads that could not be brought into spec.  There certainly is plenty of wear evident.

Regards

David

From: Bala Ganesh Chandra [mailto:bg3009 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 August 2010 12:51 AM
To: David King
Subject: Re:Question for the Nak refurbishers

Hi David,

I am currently refurbishing two decks, a 680ZX and a 700ZX, and have done a number of other decks before, but never had come across a predominantly right channel wear problem. Presumably the pressure pad lifter was present on all these decks?

The few decks with uneven wear that I have seen were due to user intervention. Do you have some pictures of the wear pattern on the playback head?

Regards,
Bala






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From David.King at usq.edu.au  Tue Aug 10 00:47:22 2010
From: David.King at usq.edu.au (David King)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 08:47:22 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] RE:  Nakamichi Head Wear
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Hi Jim

Thanks for the URL....interesting.  I used to re-lap quadruplex video tape machine audio head stacks which were easy to do as they were so large.  Somehow, I can't see myself successfully lapping a Nak head...especially by hand...although that said, I guess I've nothing to lose.

Regards

David


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Tuller [mailto:jt510 at columbia.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, 10 August 2010 1:16 AM
To: David King
Subject: RE: Nakamichi Head Wear

Interesting naktalk post today David, I'm looking forward to the replies.

I know very little about restoring a Nak.  I've had 3 machines
serviced by Jeff Galin at eslabs.com.  On one of the units, he
replaced the heads.  I had purchased that machine new, and I
was a little surprised that I had worn the heads down, but it
did give me 20 years of use to that point.  It was not bad enough
for me to detect by ear, but I'm sure it was out of spec.

I came across this thread in which a poster claims that Nak
heads can be relapped with success.  I thought it might
interest you:

http://www.tapeheads.net/showthread.php?t=3700

I'm glad you're helping to keep these fine old machines alive!



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From nakhead at y7mail.com  Tue Aug 10 03:59:04 2010
From: nakhead at y7mail.com (Steve Kulak)
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 18:59:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Dragon oditty
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Mikkel,
Simple answer - No, it appears to be fairly unique, cannot track back to 
previous owner.
Will need to consider options as to what can be done with this added 
(?) circuit.
Paul

 



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From: Mikkel Breiler <mibm at tdcadsl.dk>
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Sent: Sun, 8 August, 2010 8:06:45 PM
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Dragon oditty

On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:51:29 -0700 (PDT), Steve Kulak <nakhead at y7mail.com> 
wrote:

>Has any one  seen  this  Modification  on a Dragon before  and know  what  the 
>Mod  is or its function   ?

So did you find out what it does / is for?

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From David.King at usq.edu.au  Tue Aug 10 08:15:12 2010
From: David.King at usq.edu.au (David King)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 16:15:12 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] Question for the Nak refurbishers
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Hi Kannan

Thanks for your reply.  I do hear what you are saying, and yes I agree that there in no substitute for the real test tapes and gauges….alas these are not in my possession.  Doing these decks up is just for a bit of fun, so I don’t lose any sleep over it all and certainly don’t waste my time trying to achieve ‘better than new’ specs as this is to me a silly notion.  So, from the responses I have had thus far, I think the bottom line is this…..

Head wear on naks is a reality even with the pressure pad lifter…lets not forget how old these things are.
Equaliser mods and shorting the gap compensation resistors are a fact of life and likely will need to be done.
There is no evidence that others have noticed asymmetrical wear causing the right channel to fail more than the left but it is normal to have different response characteristics between them.
I must just have acquired decks that maybe the previous owners had fiddled with and perhaps had misaligned the head.
There is no physical reason why the inside track should suffer gap loss before the outside.

Certainly, all of the heads I have, achieve 0dB equally at 400Hz, and are relatively flat out to about 8kHz, but the right channel goes south above that.  I know it is not the channel electronics because I can swap the rolled of response into the left channel by swapping the head wires in the connector…when swapped, the response curves are perfectly transferred to the outputs with the left channel becoming rolled off, and the right flat…and this is the case in both the 482 and the 670ZX.  I overcame the problem in the 670 by installing a 581 head form a parts deck, and it is now fine and sounding great….I still did have to apply gap compensation on the right channel though but at least it all came up to spec.  After adjusting bias and level calibration, I can sweep the deck on all three tape positions and types and achieve a flat response.

Regards

David


From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of kannan srinivasaraghavan
Sent: Tuesday, 10 August 2010 5:04 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Question for the Nak refurbishers

For Naks, the head intgrity is checked by Nak reference 400 Hz tape first and adjusting the playback level to make it 0dB. IF the playback preset ( that much deviation is allowed!) is not achieving this result, then the head is faulty.

The HF response will have to be adjusted by the shorting resistor as around -2 to -3 dB is normally allowed for any play head. I do not see this as- head needing replacement !
I had once replaced  a Dragon playhead , within about 10 hrs of play HF response was not near the same between Left and right. That is why the shorting resistors are present!
Finally you need exteremly wide bandwidth Multimeter to check 20 Khz response along with brand new coupling and equalizing caps/inductors in the entire nak playback chain ( contains a good number of caps! they are all responsible for what you observe) Good reason to replace all of them if you want fantastic HF response!
Number of times the response deviations are due to the components than the head !
( if they are showing within + or -2 db response deviations ( remember -3 db is about 50% of the signal !) they are fine.  If you cannot adjust the response within -2db that means still +or -1db between channels are acceptable- then only the Head is not OK. I have never observed the type of deviation you note ( looks to me you need Nak test tapes and gauges first). also please read 1000 ZXL play /record head alignment procedure to understand what I mean.

The azimuth tape is supposed to be used only 5 or 6 times maximum as 15 khz or 20 Khz azimuth tape itself looses its HF response as you use. Finally I cannot accept any other replacement tape other than Nakamichi reference tape as acceptable for this test ( Tape integrity cannot be gauranteed) I am not saying that Louis Tapes cannot be used but I cannot gaurantee the results with such tapes as much as the Nakmichi original tapes. I have not seen so far one replacement for Nakmichi original tapes as good. Play the Nakmichi original tape and observe the output on an Oscilloscope and compare tapes made on Nakmichi decks you will understand what I mean

Kannan
















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From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 05:00:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Question for Nak Refurbishers
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Hi Perry, 

What role would pressure rollers play in this regards? Presumably, if the pressure rollers are not maintaining tension in the proper manner (most likely due to wear), then again you would have uneven tape tension across the heads?

Bala

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From: perry.nak at comcast.net <perry.nak at comcast.net>
Subject: [naktalk] Question for Nak Refurbishers
To: naktalk at naks.com
Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 2:30 PM

John Gipps in Brisbane would have the best local to you source for heads if one existed and the most experience with wear. I personally have not refurbed anything older than a 660zx..so no head wear. In general though, I'm not surprised at your find. Most every Nak I've adjusted tilt on was tilted with the outside of the head away from the tape so the left channel would have less wear. In general actual tape tension tends to be consistently higher towards the center of the tape, and tape pad lifters do not allow equal wear in this kind of scenario. If you remove the pad lifters from the head you would equalize, but increase, overall head wear.
Perry Esposito - From my phone
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From charles at njau.se  Tue Aug 10 14:50:30 2010
From: charles at njau.se (Charles A Njau)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 14:50:30 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
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I found the following link interesting:

http://www.synthgear.com/2010/diy/how-to-pirate-a-vinyl-record/

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From kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 10 16:06:29 2010
From: kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com (kannan srinivasaraghavan)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:06:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Question for the Nak refurbishers
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Hi David
I understand that head wear is possible ( I have seen one ZX 7 with one cahnnel busted - other than that I have not seen any so far) . Possibly you happen to see those unlucky head wear or loss of head gap in one channel -
hope you find some machine with good head.  
enjoy this hobby - nothing like well calibrated ( working ) Nak , they produce real music 
luckily (Marrs Comm) Fred is there producing those difficult belt for those classic Naks 
- I am meanwhile working on creating a special cable connector for 700ZXL Calibration Tone Oscillator calibration!
Kannan
--- On Tue, 8/10/10, David King <David.King at usq.edu.au> wrote:


From: David King <David.King at usq.edu.au>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Question for the Nak refurbishers
To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 2:15 AM








Hi Kannan
 
Thanks for your reply.  I do hear what you are saying, and yes I agree that there in no substitute for the real test tapes and gauges….alas these are not in my possession.  Doing these decks up is just for a bit of fun, so I don’t lose any sleep over it all and certainly don’t waste my time trying to achieve ‘better than new’ specs as this is to me a silly notion.  So, from the responses I have had thus far, I think the bottom line is this…..
 
Head wear on naks is a reality even with the pressure pad lifter…lets not forget how old these things are.
Equaliser mods and shorting the gap compensation resistors are a fact of life and likely will need to be done.
There is no evidence that others have noticed asymmetrical wear causing the right channel to fail more than the left but it is normal to have different response characteristics between them.
I must just have acquired decks that maybe the previous owners had fiddled with and perhaps had misaligned the head.
There is no physical reason why the inside track should suffer gap loss before the outside.
 
Certainly, all of the heads I have, achieve 0dB equally at 400Hz, and are relatively flat out to about 8kHz, but the right channel goes south above that.  I know it is not the channel electronics because I can swap the rolled of response into the left channel by swapping the head wires in the connector…when swapped, the response curves are perfectly transferred to the outputs with the left channel becoming rolled off, and the right flat…and this is the case in both the 482 and the 670ZX.  I overcame the problem in the 670 by installing a 581 head form a parts deck, and it is now fine and sounding great….I still did have to apply gap compensation on the right channel though but at least it all came up to spec.  After adjusting bias and level calibration, I can sweep the deck on all three tape positions and types and achieve a flat response.
 
Regards
 
David
 
 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of kannan srinivasaraghavan
Sent: Tuesday, 10 August 2010 5:04 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Question for the Nak refurbishers
 





For Naks, the head intgrity is checked by Nak reference 400 Hz tape first and adjusting the playback level to make it 0dB. IF the playback preset ( that much deviation is allowed!) is not achieving this result, then the head is faulty.

 

The HF response will have to be adjusted by the shorting resistor as around -2 to -3 dB is normally allowed for any play head. I do not see this as- head needing replacement !

I had once replaced  a Dragon playhead , within about 10 hrs of play HF response was not near the same between Left and right. That is why the shorting resistors are present!

Finally you need exteremly wide bandwidth Multimeter to check 20 Khz response along with brand new coupling and equalizing caps/inductors in the entire nak playback chain ( contains a good number of caps! they are all responsible for what you observe) Good reason to replace all of them if you want fantastic HF response! 

Number of times the response deviations are due to the components than the head !

( if they are showing within + or -2 db response deviations ( remember -3 db is about 50% of the signal !) they are fine.  If you cannot adjust the response within -2db that means still +or -1db between channels are acceptable- then only the Head is not OK. I have never observed the type of deviation you note ( looks to me you need Nak test tapes and gauges first). also please read 1000 ZXL play /record head alignment procedure to understand what I mean.

 

The azimuth tape is supposed to be used only 5 or 6 times maximum as 15 khz or 20 Khz azimuth tape itself looses its HF response as you use. Finally I cannot accept any other replacement tape other than Nakamichi reference tape as acceptable for this test ( Tape integrity cannot be gauranteed) I am not saying that Louis Tapes cannot be used but I cannot gaurantee the results with such tapes as much as the Nakmichi original tapes. I have not seen so far one replacement for Nakmichi original tapes as good. Play the Nakmichi original tape and observe the output on an Oscilloscope and compare tapes made on Nakmichi decks you will understand what I mean

 

Kannan

  







 
 
 
 
 


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From: gabrenas at math.utah.edu (Victor Gabrenas)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:06:08 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Re:Question for the Nak refurbishers
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The head looks normal to me.

 

So what does a 700ZX look like? or is it a 700ZXL or 700ZXE?

 

 

Vic

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of David King
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 4:31 PM
To: 'Bala Ganesh Chandra'
Cc: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Re:Question for the Nak refurbishers

 

Hi Bala

 

Thanks for the reply.

 

Your comments are what I would have thought also.  I think I have just been unlucky.  The decks I am refurbishing are all in very good condition otherwise.  Yes the pressure pad lifters were in position.  I have no way of knowing what previous owner /s may have done, but clearly the heads have had a lot of use.  I would have thought that the wear would have been even across the channels, with the gap width opening up equally on left and right tracks….more or less.  Attached is a photo of one of the PB heads that could not be brought into spec.  There certainly is plenty of wear evident.    

 

Regards

 

David

 

From: Bala Ganesh Chandra [mailto:bg3009 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 10 August 2010 12:51 AM
To: David King
Subject: Re:Question for the Nak refurbishers

 


Hi David, 

I am currently refurbishing two decks, a 680ZX and a 700ZX, and have done a number of other decks before, but never had come across a predominantly right channel wear problem. Presumably the pressure pad lifter was present on all these decks?

The few decks with uneven wear that I have seen were due to user intervention. Do you have some pictures of the wear pattern on the playback head?

Regards, 
Bala 




 

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From: gabrenas at math.utah.edu (Victor Gabrenas)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:15:09 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] Question for the Nak refurbishers
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Kannan,

 

I noticed you are working on a special cable for the 700ZXL. Do you have or know someone with the extender card? I as well need to build a cable or extender.

 

Vic

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of kannan srinivasaraghavan
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:06 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Question for the Nak refurbishers

 


Hi David

I understand that head wear is possible ( I have seen one ZX 7 with one cahnnel busted - other than that I have not seen any so far) . Possibly you happen to see those unlucky head wear or loss of head gap in one channel -

hope you find some machine with good head.  

enjoy this hobby - nothing like well calibrated ( working ) Nak , they produce real music 

luckily (Marrs Comm) Fred is there producing those difficult belt for those classic Naks 

- I am meanwhile working on creating a special cable connector for 700ZXL Calibration Tone Oscillator calibration!

Kannan
--- On Tue, 8/10/10, David King <David.King at usq.edu.au> wrote:


From: David King <David.King at usq.edu.au>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Question for the Nak refurbishers
To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 2:15 AM

Hi Kannan

 

Thanks for your reply.  I do hear what you are saying, and yes I agree that there in no substitute for the real test tapes and gauges….alas these are not in my possession.  Doing these decks up is just for a bit of fun, so I don’t lose any sleep over it all and certainly don’t waste my time trying to achieve ‘better than new’ specs as this is to me a silly notion.  So, from the responses I have had thus far, I think the bottom line is this…..

 

Head wear on naks is a reality even with the pressure pad lifter…lets not forget how old these things are.

Equaliser mods and shorting the gap compensation resistors are a fact of life and likely will need to be done.

There is no evidence that others have noticed asymmetrical wear causing the right channel to fail more than the left but it is normal to have different response characteristics between them.

I must just have acquired decks that maybe the previous owners had fiddled with and perhaps had misaligned the head.

There is no physical reason why the inside track should suffer gap loss before the outside.

 

Certainly, all of the heads I have, achieve 0dB equally at 400Hz, and are relatively flat out to about 8kHz, but the right channel goes south above that.  I know it is not the channel electronics because I can swap the rolled of response into the left channel by swapping the head wires in the connector…when swapped, the response curves are perfectly transferred to the outputs with the left channel becoming rolled off, and the right flat…and this is the case in both the 482 and the 670ZX.  I overcame the problem in the 670 by installing a 581 head form a parts deck, and it is now fine and sounding great….I still did have to apply gap compensation on the right channel though but at least it all came up to spec.  After adjusting bias and level calibration, I can sweep the deck on all three tape positions and types and achieve a flat response.

 

Regards

 

David

 

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of kannan srinivasaraghavan
Sent: Tuesday, 10 August 2010 5:04 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Question for the Nak refurbishers

 


For Naks, the head intgrity is checked by Nak reference 400 Hz tape first and adjusting the playback level to make it 0dB. IF the playback preset ( that much deviation is allowed!) is not achieving this result, then the head is faulty.

 

The HF response will have to be adjusted by the shorting resistor as around -2 to -3 dB is normally allowed for any play head. I do not see this as- head needing replacement !

I had once replaced  a Dragon playhead , within about 10 hrs of play HF response was not near the same between Left and right. That is why the shorting resistors are present!

Finally you need exteremly wide bandwidth Multimeter to check 20 Khz response along with brand new coupling and equalizing caps/inductors in the entire nak playback chain ( contains a good number of caps! they are all responsible for what you observe) Good reason to replace all of them if you want fantastic HF response! 

Number of times the response deviations are due to the components than the head !

( if they are showing within + or -2 db response deviations ( remember -3 db is about 50% of the signal !) they are fine.  If you cannot adjust the response within -2db that means still +or -1db between channels are acceptable- then only the Head is not OK. I have never observed the type of deviation you note ( looks to me you need Nak test tapes and gauges first). also please read 1000 ZXL play /record head alignment procedure to understand what I mean.

 

The azimuth tape is supposed to be used only 5 or 6 times maximum as 15 khz or 20 Khz azimuth tape itself looses its HF response as you use. Finally I cannot accept any other replacement tape other than Nakamichi reference tape as acceptable for this test ( Tape integrity cannot be gauranteed) I am not saying that Louis Tapes cannot be used but I cannot gaurantee the results with such tapes as much as the Nakmichi original tapes. I have not seen so far one replacement for Nakmichi original tapes as good. Play the Nakmichi original tape and observe the output on an Oscilloscope and compare tapes made on Nakmichi decks you will understand what I mean

 

Kannan

  



 

 

 

 

 

 


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From kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 10 20:58:09 2010
From: kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com (kannan srinivasaraghavan)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:58:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Question for the Nak refurbishers
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No
kannan

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From: Victor Gabrenas <gabrenas at math.utah.edu>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Question for the Nak refurbishers
To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 1:15 PM








Kannan,
 
I noticed you are working on a special cable for the 700ZXL. Do you have or know someone with the extender card? I as well need to build a cable or extender.
 
Vic
 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of kannan srinivasaraghavan
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:06 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Question for the Nak refurbishers
 





Hi David

I understand that head wear is possible ( I have seen one ZX 7 with one cahnnel busted - other than that I have not seen any so far) . Possibly you happen to see those unlucky head wear or loss of head gap in one channel -

hope you find some machine with good head.  

enjoy this hobby - nothing like well calibrated ( working ) Nak , they produce real music 

luckily (Marrs Comm) Fred is there producing those difficult belt for those classic Naks 

- I am meanwhile working on creating a special cable connector for 700ZXL Calibration Tone Oscillator calibration!

Kannan
--- On Tue, 8/10/10, David King <David.King at usq.edu.au> wrote:


From: David King <David.King at usq.edu.au>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Question for the Nak refurbishers
To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 2:15 AM


Hi Kannan
 
Thanks for your reply.  I do hear what you are saying, and yes I agree that there in no substitute for the real test tapes and gauges….alas these are not in my possession.  Doing these decks up is just for a bit of fun, so I don’t lose any sleep over it all and certainly don’t waste my time trying to achieve ‘better than new’ specs as this is to me a silly notion.  So, from the responses I have had thus far, I think the bottom line is this…..
 
Head wear on naks is a reality even with the pressure pad lifter…lets not forget how old these things are.
Equaliser mods and shorting the gap compensation resistors are a fact of life and likely will need to be done.
There is no evidence that others have noticed asymmetrical wear causing the right channel to fail more than the left but it is normal to have different response characteristics between them.
I must just have acquired decks that maybe the previous owners had fiddled with and perhaps had misaligned the head.
There is no physical reason why the inside track should suffer gap loss before the outside.
 
Certainly, all of the heads I have, achieve 0dB equally at 400Hz, and are relatively flat out to about 8kHz, but the right channel goes south above that.  I know it is not the channel electronics because I can swap the rolled of response into the left channel by swapping the head wires in the connector…when swapped, the response curves are perfectly transferred to the outputs with the left channel becoming rolled off, and the right flat…and this is the case in both the 482 and the 670ZX.  I overcame the problem in the 670 by installing a 581 head form a parts deck, and it is now fine and sounding great….I still did have to apply gap compensation on the right channel though but at least it all came up to spec.  After adjusting bias and level calibration, I can sweep the deck on all three tape positions and types and achieve a flat response.
 
Regards
 
David
 
 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of kannan srinivasaraghavan
Sent: Tuesday, 10 August 2010 5:04 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Question for the Nak refurbishers
 





For Naks, the head intgrity is checked by Nak reference 400 Hz tape first and adjusting the playback level to make it 0dB. IF the playback preset ( that much deviation is allowed!) is not achieving this result, then the head is faulty.

 

The HF response will have to be adjusted by the shorting resistor as around -2 to -3 dB is normally allowed for any play head. I do not see this as- head needing replacement !

I had once replaced  a Dragon playhead , within about 10 hrs of play HF response was not near the same between Left and right. That is why the shorting resistors are present!

Finally you need exteremly wide bandwidth Multimeter to check 20 Khz response along with brand new coupling and equalizing caps/inductors in the entire nak playback chain ( contains a good number of caps! they are all responsible for what you observe) Good reason to replace all of them if you want fantastic HF response! 

Number of times the response deviations are due to the components than the head !

( if they are showing within + or -2 db response deviations ( remember -3 db is about 50% of the signal !) they are fine.  If you cannot adjust the response within -2db that means still +or -1db between channels are acceptable- then only the Head is not OK. I have never observed the type of deviation you note ( looks to me you need Nak test tapes and gauges first). also please read 1000 ZXL play /record head alignment procedure to understand what I mean.

 

The azimuth tape is supposed to be used only 5 or 6 times maximum as 15 khz or 20 Khz azimuth tape itself looses its HF response as you use. Finally I cannot accept any other replacement tape other than Nakamichi reference tape as acceptable for this test ( Tape integrity cannot be gauranteed) I am not saying that Louis Tapes cannot be used but I cannot gaurantee the results with such tapes as much as the Nakmichi original tapes. I have not seen so far one replacement for Nakmichi original tapes as good. Play the Nakmichi original tape and observe the output on an Oscilloscope and compare tapes made on Nakmichi decks you will understand what I mean

 

Kannan

  



 
 
 
 
 
 


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From: bainrob at verizon.net (bainrob at verizon.net)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:07:03 -0500 (CDT)
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From: tim.skorick at gmail.com (Tim Skorick)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 10:29:44 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
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Nice one!  I might use this method to make archival copies of some of my
rarer jazz ...

-Tim

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From mark8559 at hotmail.com  Tue Aug 10 18:08:12 2010
From: mark8559 at hotmail.com (Mark Exstedt)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 10:08:12 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] FW: 600 Cassette Deck Stops While Playing a Cassette
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Well for some silly reason it started to give no sound output, so I placed it on Ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nakamichi-600-Cassette-Deck-Looks-Excellent-/150477772356?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0

I'm selling my second 600 Series 'System One' as well.

Ebay prices seem to be down these days, especially on new Maxell XLII 90 cassettes. Sold 10 for $23.80 (shipping included).


Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 15:53:43 -0700
From: westgateishere at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [naktalk] 600 Cassette Deck Stops While Playing a Cassette
To: naktalk at naks.com

i had a similar issue with my 600 after it had been sat unused for 23 years(!), from 1981 until 2004.
it would only play for about 2 minutes before stopping.
so i had it rehabbed in 2004 by a regional repair service here in new england. unfortunately, i did not ask or get a detailed report on the repairs and i now wish i had done so.

they did say they had to 'make' some rubber part. so i don't really know, pinch roller? just a guess. at any rate, it's been running (and sounding) like a champ since the rehab. 
i try to listen to music on it a few times per month.

and speedy ff/rw on these decks has never been one of their stronger points (so the repair service tech told me). that issue was supposedly 'fixed' on the 60 II machines.

sorry to not be of more help. please keep us informed as to your progress.



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From: Mark Exstedt <mark8559 at hotmail.com>
Subject: [naktalk] 600 Cassette Deck Stops While Playing a Cassette
To: naktalk at naks.com
Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 2:22 PM





Upon receiving a Nakamichi 600 cassette deck, I noticed the rewind and tape counter wasn't working.
Removing the cover and doing a cleaning of the belt and pulley, the rewind now works properly. 
I'm not sure if this fixed the deck but it can rewind a 90 minute tape. 
Towards the end of the tape, the rewind is working sluggishly.

Anyway, one problem left -
The tape counter is not working. 
I removed the face plate and noticed this is a mechanical tape counter, therefore no belt is used. 
The tape counter works up to the point where it's slipping at the first wheel of numbers (0 - 9) on it. 
Playing a 90 minute tape, the tape plays fine, but goes into stop mode slightly over 1/2 through playing  
the tape. 
I played a cassette with 22 minutes on one side and it played all the way through.
It seems the deck is going into stop mode while playing a tape like the memory button is engaged, but 
it's not. 
All
 three different 90 minute tapes seemed to stop at the same point while playing.

Any advice on what to do or look for before disassembling the deck again and getting the counter to work?

Thank you.
 		 	   		  

 		 	   		  
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From kulak at ozemail.com.au  Wed Aug 11 00:27:50 2010
From: kulak at ozemail.com.au (Steve Kulak)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 08:27:50 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] Question for the Nak refurbishers
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This company has a number of brand new, original Nakamichi ZX7 record / play heads for the classic decks.

ATD Disc & Print
Ph 08 8232 6444
Fax 08 8232 6055
www.atd.com.au
al at atd.com.au

May be a solution, contact Al Sankaustas.

Steve.

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  From: kannan srinivasaraghavan 
  To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 12:06 AM
  Subject: RE: [naktalk] Question for the Nak refurbishers


        Hi David
        I understand that head wear is possible ( I have seen one ZX 7 with one cahnnel busted - other than that I have not seen any so far) . Possibly you happen to see those unlucky head wear or loss of head gap in one channel -
        hope you find some machine with good head.  
        enjoy this hobby - nothing like well calibrated ( working ) Nak , they produce real music 
        luckily (Marrs Comm) Fred is there producing those difficult belt for those classic Naks 
        - I am meanwhile working on creating a special cable connector for 700ZXL Calibration Tone Oscillator calibration!
        Kannan
        --- On Tue, 8/10/10, David King <David.King at usq.edu.au> wrote:


          From: David King <David.King at usq.edu.au>
          Subject: RE: [naktalk] Question for the Nak refurbishers
          To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
          Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 2:15 AM


          Hi Kannan



          Thanks for your reply.  I do hear what you are saying, and yes I agree that there in no substitute for the real test tapes and gauges….alas these are not in my possession.  Doing these decks up is just for a bit of fun, so I don’t lose any sleep over it all and certainly don’t waste my time trying to achieve ‘better than new’ specs as this is to me a silly notion.  So, from the responses I have had thus far, I think the bottom line is this…..



          Head wear on naks is a reality even with the pressure pad lifter…lets not forget how old these things are.

          Equaliser mods and shorting the gap compensation resistors are a fact of life and likely will need to be done.

          There is no evidence that others have noticed asymmetrical wear causing the right channel to fail more than the left but it is normal to have different response characteristics between them.

          I must just have acquired decks that maybe the previous owners had fiddled with and perhaps had misaligned the head.

          There is no physical reason why the inside track should suffer gap loss before the outside.



          Certainly, all of the heads I have, achieve 0dB equally at 400Hz, and are relatively flat out to about 8kHz, but the right channel goes south above that.  I know it is not the channel electronics because I can swap the rolled of response into the left channel by swapping the head wires in the connector…when swapped, the response curves are perfectly transferred to the outputs with the left channel becoming rolled off, and the right flat…and this is the case in both the 482 and the 670ZX.  I overcame the problem in the 670 by installing a 581 head form a parts deck, and it is now fine and sounding great….I still did have to apply gap compensation on the right channel though but at least it all came up to spec.  After adjusting bias and level calibration, I can sweep the deck on all three tape positions and types and achieve a flat response.



          Regards



          David





          From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of kannan srinivasaraghavan
          Sent: Tuesday, 10 August 2010 5:04 AM
          To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
          Subject: Re: [naktalk] Question for the Nak refurbishers



                For Naks, the head intgrity is checked by Nak reference 400 Hz tape first and adjusting the playback level to make it 0dB. IF the playback preset ( that much deviation is allowed!) is not achieving this result, then the head is faulty.



                The HF response will have to be adjusted by the shorting resistor as around -2 to -3 dB is normally allowed for any play head. I do not see this as- head needing replacement !

                I had once replaced  a Dragon playhead , within about 10 hrs of play HF response was not near the same between Left and right. That is why the shorting resistors are present!

                Finally you need exteremly wide bandwidth Multimeter to check 20 Khz response along with brand new coupling and equalizing caps/inductors in the entire nak playback chain ( contains a good number of caps! they are all responsible for what you observe) Good reason to replace all of them if you want fantastic HF response! 

                Number of times the response deviations are due to the components than the head !

                ( if they are showing within + or -2 db response deviations ( remember -3 db is about 50% of the signal !) they are fine.  If you cannot adjust the response within -2db that means still +or -1db between channels are acceptable- then only the Head is not OK. I have never observed the type of deviation you note ( looks to me you need Nak test tapes and gauges first). also please read 1000 ZXL play /record head alignment procedure to understand what I mean.



                The azimuth tape is supposed to be used only 5 or 6 times maximum as 15 khz or 20 Khz azimuth tape itself looses its HF response as you use. Finally I cannot accept any other replacement tape other than Nakamichi reference tape as acceptable for this test ( Tape integrity cannot be gauranteed) I am not saying that Louis Tapes cannot be used but I cannot gaurantee the results with such tapes as much as the Nakmichi original tapes. I have not seen so far one replacement for Nakmichi original tapes as good. Play the Nakmichi original tape and observe the output on an Oscilloscope and compare tapes made on Nakmichi decks you will understand what I mean



                Kannan

                  



















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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 11 02:35:03 2010
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 17:35:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Re:Question for the Nak refurbishers
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It's a 700ZXL Victor. Still getting used to the QWERTY keyboard on my phone. 

Bala 

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From: Victor Gabrenas <gabrenas at math.utah.edu>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] RE: Re:Question for the Nak refurbishers
To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 1:06 AM




 
 







The head looks normal to me. 

   

So what does a 700ZX look like? or is it a 700ZXL or 700ZXE? 

   

   

Vic 

   





From:
naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of David
King

Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 4:31 PM

To: 'Bala Ganesh Chandra'

Cc: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'

Subject: [naktalk] RE: Re:Question for the Nak refurbishers 





   

Hi Bala 

   

Thanks for the reply. 

   

Your comments are what I would have thought also.  I think I
have just been unlucky.  The decks I am refurbishing are all in very good
condition otherwise.  Yes the pressure pad lifters were in position. 
I have no way of knowing what previous owner /s may have done, but clearly the
heads have had a lot of use.  I would have thought that the wear would
have been even across the channels, with the gap width opening up equally on
left and right tracks….more or less.  Attached is a photo of one of the PB
heads that could not be brought into spec.  There certainly is plenty of
wear evident.     

   

Regards 

   

David 

   



From: Bala Ganesh Chandra
[mailto:bg3009 at yahoo.com] 

Sent: Tuesday, 10 August 2010 12:51 AM

To: David King

Subject: Re:Question for the Nak refurbishers 



   


 
  
  Hi David, 

  

  I am currently refurbishing two decks, a 680ZX and a 700ZX, and have done a
  number of other decks before, but never had come across a predominantly right
  channel wear problem. Presumably the pressure pad lifter was present on all
  these decks?

  

  The few decks with uneven wear that I have seen were due to user
  intervention. Do you have some pictures of the wear pattern on the playback head?

  

  Regards, 

  Bala 

  

  

   
  
 


   







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From gstrahle at chariot.net.au  Wed Aug 11 00:39:42 2010
From: gstrahle at chariot.net.au (Graham Strahle)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 08:09:42 +0930
Subject: [naktalk] 'Pristine' 680ZX on ebay
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For any interested, there's a gorgeous looking 680ZX on ebay. Described as 'pristine' and serviced by Willy Hermann, buy for US$850. 

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nakamichi-680ZX-Cassette-Deck-Willy-Hermann-Serviced-/140423640462?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0#ht_4844wt_1218
Item number:	140423640462
I'm not sure the description is entirely right though. Didn't the 680ZX come out before the Dragon, not afterwards? 

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From shorty1275nz at actrix.co.nz  Wed Aug 11 12:35:19 2010
From: shorty1275nz at actrix.co.nz (Martin Short)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 22:35:19 +1200
Subject: [naktalk] FW: 600 Cassette Deck Stops While Playing a Cassette
References: <SNT111-W33793F5F8C1C32B1F6EB8ADBAF0@phx.gbl>,
	<134141.79731.qm@web65407.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
	<SNT111-W1361FB7416C869F1B1F64FDB950@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <979A64D40B2842B99452ADBC873BEED7@desktop>

Mark,

if it was all good before, probably just needs the Circuit Board edge connectors cleaned and reseated.... no doubt you have disturbed them when ferreting around inside... another common 600 foible.

M


----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mark Exstedt 
  To: naktalk at naks.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 4:08 AM
  Subject: [naktalk] FW: 600 Cassette Deck Stops While Playing a Cassette


  Well for some silly reason it started to give no sound output, so I placed it on Ebay

  http://cgi.ebay.com/Nakamichi-600-Cassette-Deck-Looks-Excellent-/150477772356?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0

  I'm selling my second 600 Series 'System One' as well.

  Ebay prices seem to be down these days, especially on new Maxell XLII 90 cassettes. Sold 10 for $23.80 (shipping included).


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  Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 15:53:43 -0700
  From: westgateishere at yahoo.com
  Subject: Re: [naktalk] 600 Cassette Deck Stops While Playing a Cassette
  To: naktalk at naks.com

        i had a similar issue with my 600 after it had been sat unused for 23 years(!), from 1981 until 2004.
        it would only play for about 2 minutes before stopping.
        so i had it rehabbed in 2004 by a regional repair service here in new england. unfortunately, i did not ask or get a detailed report on the repairs and i now wish i had done so.

        they did say they had to 'make' some rubber part. so i don't really know, pinch roller? just a guess. at any rate, it's been running (and sounding) like a champ since the rehab. 
        i try to listen to music on it a few times per month.

        and speedy ff/rw on these decks has never been one of their stronger points (so the repair service tech told me). that issue was supposedly 'fixed' on the 60 II machines.

        sorry to not be of more help. please keep us informed as to your progress.



        --- On Wed, 8/4/10, Mark Exstedt <mark8559 at hotmail.com> wrote:


          From: Mark Exstedt <mark8559 at hotmail.com>
          Subject: [naktalk] 600 Cassette Deck Stops While Playing a Cassette
          To: naktalk at naks.com
          Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 2:22 PM



          Upon receiving a Nakamichi 600 cassette deck, I noticed the rewind and tape counter wasn't working.
          Removing the cover and doing a cleaning of the belt and pulley, the rewind now works properly. 
          I'm not sure if this fixed the deck but it can rewind a 90 minute tape. 
          Towards the end of the tape, the rewind is working sluggishly.

          Anyway, one problem left -
          The tape counter is not working. 
          I removed the face plate and noticed this is a mechanical tape counter, therefore no belt is used. 
          The tape counter works up to the point where it's slipping at the first wheel of numbers (0 - 9) on it. 
          Playing a 90 minute tape, the tape plays fine, but goes into stop mode slightly over 1/2 through playing  
          the tape. 
          I played a cassette with 22 minutes on one side and it played all the way through.
          It seems the deck is going into stop mode while playing a tape like the memory button is engaged, but 
          it's not. 
          All three different 90 minute tapes seemed to stop at the same point while playing.

          Any advice on what to do or look for before disassembling the deck again and getting the counter to work?

          Thank you.


       
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From nakdoc77 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 12 00:22:25 2010
From: nakdoc77 at gmail.com (Tom Brucker)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:22:25 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] I hope I will get to talk with you again
Message-ID: <AANLkTinf3iZ1o2CRPaXmAiHggh+6TLvsvfiUpoM71Z71@mail.gmail.com>

Adding gMail is easier than fighting ISPs that filter NakTalk! Sorry it has
taken me so long.

tom brucker
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From r1seals at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 12 03:25:59 2010
From: r1seals at yahoo.com (Russ Seals)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 18:25:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] I hope I will get to talk with you again
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinf3iZ1o2CRPaXmAiHggh+6TLvsvfiUpoM71Z71@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <966267.66163.qm@web50005.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Welcome back Tom 
Russ

--- On Wed, 8/11/10, Tom Brucker <nakdoc77 at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Tom Brucker <nakdoc77 at gmail.com>
Subject: [naktalk] I hope I will get to talk with you again
To: naktalk at naks.com
Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 5:22 PM

Adding gMail is easier than fighting ISPs that filter NakTalk! Sorry it has taken me so long.
 
tom brucker
aka nakdoc

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From iforbes at forbescars.com  Thu Aug 12 12:58:25 2010
From: iforbes at forbescars.com (Ivan Forbes)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 07:58:25 -0300
Subject: [naktalk] Loss of right channel signal on 680zx
Message-ID: <9092B271D345466DAF141D056F54DA44@IvanPC>

Hi all, just wondering if any of you know what may be up with the loss of sound from the right channel all of a sudden on my 680zx. Deck worked fine on the weekend, went to use it last night and low and behold the right channel signal was gone on both playback and record operation. The Corresponding right led does not light. Wodering if anyone can lead me in the right direction.

Thanks

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From charles at njau.se  Thu Aug 12 13:30:00 2010
From: charles at njau.se (Charles A Njau)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 13:30:00 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] I hope I will get to talk with you again
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W E L C O M E  B A C K  M R  T O M  B U C K E R !

Here in the forum we have missed you a great deal!

Cheers!

Charles.

12 aug 2010 kl. 00.22 skrev Tom Brucker:

> Adding gMail is easier than fighting ISPs that filter NakTalk!  
> Sorry it has taken me so long.
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From charles at njau.se  Thu Aug 12 13:30:04 2010
From: charles at njau.se (Charles A Njau)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 13:30:04 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
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Hi Tim!

Please let us be informed about your achievements in this endeavor!
Good luck!
Cheers!
Charles


10 aug 2010 kl. 16.29 skrev Tim Skorick:

> Nice one!  I might use this method to make archival copies of some  
> of my rarer jazz ...
>
> -Tim
>
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> Cheers!
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From luis at peromarta.org  Thu Aug 12 14:46:43 2010
From: luis at peromarta.org (Luis Peromarta Regert)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 14:46:43 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Loss of right channel signal on 680zx
In-Reply-To: <9092B271D345466DAF141D056F54DA44@IvanPC>
References: <9092B271D345466DAF141D056F54DA44@IvanPC>
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Could be just anything. Good old troubleshooting is now due. Start by looking at the head wiring into the pb amp board. 

Sent from iPhone. Pls excuse typos. 

El 12/08/2010, a las 12:58, "Ivan Forbes" <iforbes at forbescars.com> escribió:

> Hi all, just wondering if any of you know what may be up with the loss of sound from the right channel all of a sudden on my 680zx. Deck worked fine on the weekend, went to use it last night and low and behold the right channel signal was gone on both playback and record operation. The Corresponding right led does not light. Wodering if anyone can lead me in the right direction.
>  
> Thanks
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From classicaudiorepair at gmail.com  Thu Aug 12 18:11:49 2010
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com (Fred Longworth)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 09:11:49 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Loss of right channel signal on 680zx
In-Reply-To: <9092B271D345466DAF141D056F54DA44@IvanPC>
References: <9092B271D345466DAF141D056F54DA44@IvanPC>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimGd7coPy+vb-TjcAGoucoMK3eckXZrajuEt-3B@mail.gmail.com>

There are literally hundreds of causes, Ivan.

Do you have a service manual and/or schematic for the 680zx? Do you have a
DMM and an oscilloscope?

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:58 AM, Ivan Forbes <iforbes at forbescars.com> wrote:

>  Hi all, just wondering if any of you know what may be up with the loss of
> sound from the right channel all of a sudden on my 680zx. Deck worked fine
> on the weekend, went to use it last night and low and behold the right
> channel signal was gone on both playback and record operation. The
> Corresponding right led does not light. Wodering if anyone can lead me in
> the right direction.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ivan.
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From kaupp240 at hotmail.com  Thu Aug 12 22:09:04 2010
From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com (Cheryl Kaupp)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 10:09:04 -1000
Subject: [naktalk] Loss of right channel signal on 680zx
In-Reply-To: <9092B271D345466DAF141D056F54DA44@IvanPC>
References: <9092B271D345466DAF141D056F54DA44@IvanPC>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP28E1DC3D1F0D3301B89DEE86970@phx.gbl>

My 581 just did that too. In my case, if I turn OFF the Dolby it works fine.
So I suspect mine is a failure in the Dolby circuit.

I haven't had a chance to open it up yet.

Aloha,

Cheryl

 

  _____  

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Ivan Forbes
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:58 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: [naktalk] Loss of right channel signal on 680zx

 

Hi all, just wondering if any of you know what may be up with the loss of
sound from the right channel all of a sudden on my 680zx. Deck worked fine
on the weekend, went to use it last night and low and behold the right
channel signal was gone on both playback and record operation. The
Corresponding right led does not light. Wodering if anyone can lead me in
the right direction.

 

Thanks

 

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From ronami at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 12 23:13:50 2010
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 14:13:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
In-Reply-To: <B95CCA59-371D-4EE1-8BA6-AA1309490CD8@njau.se>
Message-ID: <550369.9534.qm@web50402.mail.re2.yahoo.com>



I wonder if the copy still sounds better than the equivalent SACD.



--- On Tue, 8/10/10, Charles A Njau <charles at njau.se> wrote:

From: Charles A Njau <charles at njau.se>
Subject: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 8:50 AM

I found the following link interesting:
http://www.synthgear.com/2010/diy/how-to-pirate-a-vinyl-record/
Cheers!
Charles
 

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From nakdoc77 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 12 23:58:17 2010
From: nakdoc77 at gmail.com (Tom Brucker)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 16:58:17 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] I hope I will get to talk with you again
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Well, at least I can post. GMail seems to organize threads. I have some
learning to do.    For the NakTalker that needs a Sankyo deck idler, I have
one here in the US if Pelle's postage is too high.

tom brucker

On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Russ Seals <r1seals at yahoo.com> wrote:

>   Welcome back Tom
> Russ
>
> --- On *Wed, 8/11/10, Tom Brucker <nakdoc77 at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Tom Brucker <nakdoc77 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [naktalk] I hope I will get to talk with you again
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 5:22 PM
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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 13 06:12:24 2010
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 21:12:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
In-Reply-To: <550369.9534.qm@web50402.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <424684.57514.qm@web30206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Seriously, given the issues with surface noise of the material used, and the fidelity of the grooves of the copy, I don't think the copy can be used for critical listening and evaluation. It would be more for playing while the original is saved for posterity, or for those who do not mind forsaking fidelity simply for having a copy of the song. 

Bala  

--- On Fri, 8/13/10, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Friday, August 13, 2010, 5:13 AM



I wonder if the copy still sounds better than the equivalent SACD.



--- On Tue, 8/10/10, Charles A Njau <charles at njau.se> wrote:

From: Charles A Njau <charles at njau.se>
Subject: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 8:50 AM

I found the following link interesting:
http://www.synthgear.com/2010/diy/how-to-pirate-a-vinyl-record/
Cheers!
Charles

 

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From ronami at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 13 15:56:22 2010
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 06:56:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
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Yea, I was just joking. I understand the allure of making an 
LP copy -- it's kinda cool -- but, to preserve the original LP, 
I would prefer to copy to cassette. This is what God gave 
us Naks for  :-).

-- Ron



--- On Fri, 8/13/10, Bala Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Bala Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Friday, August 13, 2010, 12:12 AM

Seriously, given the issues with surface noise of the material used, and the fidelity of the grooves of the copy, I don't think the copy can be used for critical listening and evaluation. It would be more for playing while the original is saved for posterity, or for those who do not mind forsaking fidelity simply for having a copy of the song. 

Bala  

--- On Fri, 8/13/10, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Friday, August 13, 2010, 5:13 AM



I wonder if the copy still sounds better than the equivalent SACD.



--- On Tue, 8/10/10, Charles A Njau <charles at njau.se> wrote:

From: Charles A Njau <charles at njau.se>
Subject: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 8:50 AM

I found the following link interesting:
http://www.synthgear.com/2010/diy/how-to-pirate-a-vinyl-record/
Cheers!
Charles

 

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From emberphoto at hotmail.com  Fri Aug 13 19:30:27 2010
From: emberphoto at hotmail.com (Steve Ember)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 13:30:27 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
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Ummm, what's wrong with "pirating" it to a nice clean Nakamichi recorded Maxell or TDK cassette?

Or have I missed something? Oops, I know: I just don't have enough "free" time on my hands ;-)

Steve
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 21:12:24 -0700
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
To: naktalk at naks.com

Seriously, given the issues with surface noise of the material used, and the fidelity of the grooves of the copy, I don't think the copy can be used for critical listening and evaluation. It would be more for playing while the original is saved for posterity, or for those who do not mind forsaking fidelity simply for having a copy of the song. 

Bala  

--- On Fri, 8/13/10, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Friday, August 13, 2010, 5:13 AM



I wonder if the copy still sounds better than the equivalent SACD.



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From: Charles A Njau <charles at njau.se>
Subject: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 8:50 AM

I found the following link interesting:
http://www.synthgear.com/2010/diy/how-to-pirate-a-vinyl-record/
Cheers!
Charles

 

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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 13 19:38:56 2010
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:38:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
In-Reply-To: <675723.53099.qm@web50405.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <478627.74690.qm@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Cassettes just have that wonderful appeal . Many back-up CDs I made 10 years ago have started flaking, and some are just not readable anymore. Meanwhile, a 1973 recording on Hitachi Normal tape plays on perfectly on a N-600-II. The 600 will still play when iPods are no longer supported and the audio codecs we know of now will require some hack or patch to work. 

Bala


--- On Fri, 8/13/10, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Friday, August 13, 2010, 9:56 PM


Yea, I was just joking. I understand the allure of making an 
LP copy -- it's kinda cool -- but, to preserve the original LP, 
I would prefer to copy to cassette. This is what God gave 
us Naks for  :-).

-- Ron



--- On Fri, 8/13/10, Bala Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Bala Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Friday, August 13, 2010, 12:12 AM

Seriously, given the issues with surface noise of the material used, and the
 fidelity of the grooves of the copy, I don't think the copy can be used for critical listening and evaluation. It would be more for playing while the original is saved for posterity, or for those who do not mind forsaking fidelity simply for having a copy of the song. 

Bala  

--- On Fri, 8/13/10, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Friday, August 13, 2010, 5:13 AM



I wonder if the copy still sounds better than the equivalent SACD.



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 <charles at njau.se> wrote:

From: Charles A Njau <charles at njau.se>
Subject: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 8:50 AM

I found the following link interesting:
http://www.synthgear.com/2010/diy/how-to-pirate-a-vinyl-record/
Cheers!
Charles

 

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From charles at njau.se  Fri Aug 13 20:44:22 2010
From: charles at njau.se (Charles A Njau)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 20:44:22 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
In-Reply-To: <675723.53099.qm@web50405.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <675723.53099.qm@web50405.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DA1C89E8-59DD-4218-B8E7-1079774B3377@njau.se>

"When there was vinyl, I just loved opening a record & smelling that  
wonderful smell." Diane Schuur.

Cheers.

Charles


13 aug 2010 kl. 15.56 skrev Ron:

>
> Yea, I was just joking. I understand the allure of making an
> LP copy -- it's kinda cool -- but, to preserve the original LP,
> I would prefer to copy to cassette. This is what God gave
> us Naks for  :-).
>
> -- Ron
>
>
>
> --- On Fri, 8/13/10, Bala Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: Bala Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
> Date: Friday, August 13, 2010, 12:12 AM
>
> Seriously, given the issues with surface noise of the material  
> used, and the fidelity of the grooves of the copy, I don't think  
> the copy can be used for critical listening and evaluation. It  
> would be more for playing while the original is saved for  
> posterity, or for those who do not mind forsaking fidelity simply  
> for having a copy of the song.
>
> Bala
>
> --- On Fri, 8/13/10, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
> Date: Friday, August 13, 2010, 5:13 AM
>
>
>
> I wonder if the copy still sounds better than the equivalent SACD.
>
>
>
> --- On Tue, 8/10/10, Charles A Njau <charles at njau.se> wrote:
>
> From: Charles A Njau <charles at njau.se>
> Subject: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
> Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 8:50 AM
>
> I found the following link interesting:
>
> http://www.synthgear.com/2010/diy/how-to-pirate-a-vinyl-record/
>
> Cheers!
>
> Charles
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 14 01:16:49 2010
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:16:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
In-Reply-To: <478627.74690.qm@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <415652.93240.qm@web50404.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


> ... when iPods are no longer supported 

Heaven forbd! Bite your tongue ...

-- Ron



--- On Fri, 8/13/10, Bala Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Bala Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Friday, August 13, 2010, 1:38 PM

Cassettes just have that wonderful appeal . Many back-up CDs I made 10 years ago have started flaking, and some are just not readable anymore. Meanwhile, a 1973 recording on Hitachi Normal tape plays on perfectly on a N-600-II. The 600 will still play when iPods are no longer supported and the audio codecs we know of now will require some hack or patch to work. 

Bala


--- On Fri, 8/13/10, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Friday, August 13, 2010, 9:56 PM


Yea, I was just joking. I understand the allure of making an 
LP copy -- it's kinda cool -- but, to preserve the original LP, 
I would prefer to copy to cassette. This is what God gave 
us Naks for  :-).

-- Ron



--- On Fri, 8/13/10, Bala Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Bala Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Friday, August 13, 2010, 12:12 AM

Seriously, given the issues with surface noise of the material used, and the
 fidelity of the grooves of the copy, I don't think the copy can be used for critical listening and evaluation. It would be more for playing while the original is saved for posterity, or for those who do not mind forsaking fidelity simply for having a copy of the song. 

Bala  

--- On Fri, 8/13/10, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Friday, August 13, 2010, 5:13 AM



I wonder if the copy still sounds better than the equivalent SACD.



--- On Tue, 8/10/10, Charles A Njau
 <charles at njau.se> wrote:

From: Charles A Njau <charles at njau.se>
Subject: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 8:50 AM

I found the following link interesting:
http://www.synthgear.com/2010/diy/how-to-pirate-a-vinyl-record/
Cheers!
Charles

 

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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 14 04:10:06 2010
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 19:10:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
In-Reply-To: <SNT123-W2231A33672217D9F1CAB1BDE980@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <738202.97850.qm@web30202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

What's wrong? The word 'Pirating' perhaps. It's part of Nakking! Just kidding. 

A friend once asked, 'What's so special about this brand of cassette decks?' I replied to him, 'There are two types of people - cassette listeners and Nakkers. That is all.'

Bala
 

--- On Sat, 8/14/10, Steve Ember <emberphoto at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Steve Ember <emberphoto at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
To: "Nakamichi Talk" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Saturday, August 14, 2010, 1:30 AM




Ummm, what's wrong with "pirating" it to a nice clean Nakamichi recorded Maxell or TDK cassette?

Or have I missed something? Oops, I know: I just don't have enough "free" time on my hands ;-)

Steve
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 21:12:24 -0700
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
To: naktalk at naks.com

Seriously, given the issues with surface noise of the material used, and the fidelity of the grooves of the copy, I don't think the copy can be used for critical listening and evaluation. It would be more for playing while the original is saved for posterity, or for those who do not mind forsaking fidelity simply for having a copy of the song. 

Bala  

--- On Fri, 8/13/10, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Friday, August 13, 2010, 5:13 AM



I wonder if the copy still sounds better than the equivalent SACD.



--- On Tue, 8/10/10, Charles A Njau <charles at njau.se> wrote:

From: Charles A Njau <charles at njau.se>
Subject: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 8:50 AM

I found the following link interesting:
http://www.synthgear.com/2010/diy/how-to-pirate-a-vinyl-record/
Cheers!
Charles

 

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From tr463rsb at comcast.net  Sat Aug 14 05:47:48 2010
From: tr463rsb at comcast.net (RSB)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 23:47:48 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Re: How to pirate a vinyl record (Bala Ganesh Chandra)
In-Reply-To: <201008131009.o7DA80pb029134@zxe.naks.com>
Message-ID: <201008140349.o7E3m2GL000332@zxe.naks.com>

Response from a somewhat cynical friend of mine, to the point"

"Great idea, just think in only 4 or 5 days (drying/curing time) and for $75
in materials, you could have half an LP record.

You know you can build your own car at home too. First, get some iron
ore........."

Rob Branson



From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 15 05:28:58 2010
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra)
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 20:28:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
In-Reply-To: <415652.93240.qm@web50404.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <802389.80932.qm@web30201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

At the rate things are evolving even within the iPod family, getting my current one to work say in 10 years time would require some riggin'. Just look what AAPL plans to do with Apple TV.

Bala 

--- On Sat, 8/14/10, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Saturday, August 14, 2010, 7:16 AM


> ... when iPods are no longer supported 

Heaven forbd! Bite your tongue ...

-- Ron



--- On Fri, 8/13/10, Bala Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Bala Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Friday, August 13, 2010, 1:38 PM

Cassettes just have that wonderful appeal . Many back-up CDs I made 10 years ago have started flaking, and some are just not readable anymore. Meanwhile, a 1973 recording on Hitachi Normal tape plays on
 perfectly on a N-600-II. The 600 will still play when iPods are no longer supported and the audio codecs we know of now will require some hack or patch to work. 

Bala


--- On Fri, 8/13/10, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Friday, August 13, 2010, 9:56 PM


Yea, I was just joking. I understand the allure of making an 
LP copy -- it's kinda cool -- but, to preserve the original LP, 
I would prefer to copy to cassette. This is what God gave 
us Naks for  :-).

-- Ron



--- On
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From: Bala Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Friday, August 13, 2010, 12:12 AM

Seriously, given the issues with surface noise of the material used, and the
 fidelity of the grooves of the copy, I don't think the copy can be used for critical listening and evaluation. It would be more for playing while the original is saved for posterity, or for those who do not mind forsaking fidelity simply for having a copy of the song. 

Bala  

--- On Fri, 8/13/10, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Friday, August 13, 2010, 5:13 AM



I wonder if the copy still sounds better than the equivalent SACD.



--- On Tue, 8/10/10, Charles A
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 <charles at njau.se> wrote:

From: Charles A Njau <charles at njau.se>
Subject: [naktalk] How to pirate a vinyl record
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 8:50 AM

I found the following link interesting:
http://www.synthgear.com/2010/diy/how-to-pirate-a-vinyl-record/
Cheers!
Charles

 

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From winniepoohlove at hotmail.com  Tue Aug 17 03:36:33 2010
From: winniepoohlove at hotmail.com (winnie pooh)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 01:36:33 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
In-Reply-To: <64125E0F9679D94686FAA7E52B4A16AB0CFC854D25@EXCHMB.usq.edu.au>
References: <64125E0F9679D94686FAA7E52B4A16AB0CFC854D1E@EXCHMB.usq.edu.au>,
	<435500.16255.qm@web30207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
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Hi everyone,

My CR-7E has just developed a problem and I am looking for help in fixing it. A bit of background:

My CR-7E was fuly serviced by Bowers & Wilkins in England 6 years ago, they had done a good job and everything was working to Nak specs. The only thing is I think they did not replace any orange caps as this was not mentioned on the service note and I am not sure if they routinely replaced them or not.

It was working fine until yesterday. I had not switched it on for about 2 or 3 months and yesterday decided to switch it on. I have not inserted a tape yet but had pressed play inadvertently and then the Play, FF, REW, Pause and Fader up buttons just lit up and stayed on. I cannot open the cassette well door to insert a tape and it would not respond to anything. Tried switching it off and on but the same problem persisted. Basically now I cannot eject open the cassette well door, the CR-7E just stays like this with the buttons lit up and I am unable to get it into play or FF or REW or anything.

Is this due to orange caps or belts or a seized motor? I have not taken it apart or lifted the lid yet as I wanted to see what you experts advise first. Thanks in advance for your help.

Kelvin.


 		 	   		  
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From nakdoc77 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 17 16:14:30 2010
From: nakdoc77 at gmail.com (Tom Brucker)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:14:30 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
In-Reply-To: <COL122-W524140646C644A1D685E89D59C0@phx.gbl>
References: <64125E0F9679D94686FAA7E52B4A16AB0CFC854D1E@EXCHMB.usq.edu.au>
	<435500.16255.qm@web30207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<64125E0F9679D94686FAA7E52B4A16AB0CFC854D25@EXCHMB.usq.edu.au>
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Message-ID: <AANLkTikDTjiEs24TgvqGLHr_8o6raHtsQaOaA3A-b1xZ@mail.gmail.com>

Kelvin,
Try moving the mode cam pulley with your finger or a pencil erasure. All
should return to normal. The cam motor has a dead spot. Deoxit may help it
work a while longer. Many Nak owners "exercise thier collection once a
month. The exercise keeps the belts from developing flat spots.

tom brucker

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com>wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> My CR-7E has just developed a problem and I am looking for help in fixing
> it. A bit of background:
>
> My CR-7E was fuly serviced by Bowers & Wilkins in England 6 years ago, they
> had done a good job and everything was working to Nak specs. The only thing
> is I think they did not replace any orange caps as this was not mentioned on
> the service note and I am not sure if they routinely replaced them or not.
>
> It was working fine until yesterday. I had not switched it on for about 2
> or 3 months and yesterday decided to switch it on. I have not inserted a
> tape yet but had pressed play inadvertently and then the Play, FF, REW,
> Pause and Fader up buttons just lit up and stayed on. I cannot open the
> cassette well door to insert a tape and it would not respond to anything.
> Tried switching it off and on but the same problem persisted. Basically now
> I cannot eject open the cassette well door, the CR-7E just stays like this
> with the buttons lit up and I am unable to get it into play or FF or REW or
> anything.
>
> Is this due to orange caps or belts or a seized motor? I have not taken it
> apart or lifted the lid yet as I wanted to see what you experts advise
> first. Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Kelvin.
>
>
>
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Nashville, TN USA
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From westgateishere at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 17 16:20:41 2010
From: westgateishere at yahoo.com (jay knickerbocker)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 07:20:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
In-Reply-To: <COL122-W524140646C644A1D685E89D59C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <807624.38844.qm@web65404.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

i have not owned or had experience with cr-7e so-
my first thought is that the cam motor has developed a 'flat spot'.
there are a couple of different remedies but i'll let the real experts suggest them...
good luck!

--- On Mon, 8/16/10, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com>
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
To: "naktalk" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 6:36 PM




Hi everyone,

My CR-7E has just developed a problem and I am looking for help in fixing it. A bit of background:

My CR-7E was fuly serviced by Bowers & Wilkins in England 6 years ago, they had done a good job and everything was working to Nak specs. The only thing is I think they did not replace any orange caps as this was not mentioned on the service note and I am not sure if they routinely replaced them or not.

It was working fine until yesterday. I had not switched it on for about 2 or 3 months and yesterday decided to switch it on. I have not inserted a tape yet but had pressed play inadvertently and then the Play, FF, REW, Pause and Fader up buttons just lit up and stayed on. I cannot open the cassette well door to insert a tape and it would not respond to anything. Tried switching it off and on but the same problem persisted. Basically now I cannot eject open the cassette well door, the CR-7E just stays like this with the buttons lit up and I am unable to get it into play or FF or REW or anything.

Is this due to orange caps or belts or a seized motor? I have not taken it apart or lifted the lid yet as I wanted to see what you experts advise first. Thanks in advance for your help.

Kelvin.


 		 	   		  

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From srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com  Tue Aug 17 17:32:51 2010
From: srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com (Seshadri, Srinath)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 11:32:51 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
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References: <64125E0F9679D94686FAA7E52B4A16AB0CFC854D1E@EXCHMB.usq.edu.au>
	<435500.16255.qm@web30207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<64125E0F9679D94686FAA7E52B4A16AB0CFC854D25@EXCHMB.usq.edu.au>
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My nak bx-125 which used to not rewind at all a few days ago - jus tused
to try to rewind but never move the tape, started to rewind and it's a
little choppy and squeaky now.

I am wondering what can be used to freshen up the belts in there. I am
hoping to not change them, I will likely screw up big if I try that.

Can I clean it with a Qtip ? how about alcohol ? head cleaning fluid ?
acetone ? kerosene ? baby powder ?

Thanks.

Srinath.

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Brucker
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:15 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem

 

Kelvin,

Try moving the mode cam pulley with your finger or a pencil erasure. All
should return to normal. The cam motor has a dead spot. Deoxit may help
it work a while longer. Many Nak owners "exercise thier collection once
a month. The exercise keeps the belts from developing flat spots.

 

tom brucker

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, winnie pooh
<winniepoohlove at hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi everyone,

My CR-7E has just developed a problem and I am looking for help in
fixing it. A bit of background:

My CR-7E was fuly serviced by Bowers & Wilkins in England 6 years ago,
they had done a good job and everything was working to Nak specs. The
only thing is I think they did not replace any orange caps as this was
not mentioned on the service note and I am not sure if they routinely
replaced them or not.

It was working fine until yesterday. I had not switched it on for about
2 or 3 months and yesterday decided to switch it on. I have not inserted
a tape yet but had pressed play inadvertently and then the Play, FF,
REW, Pause and Fader up buttons just lit up and stayed on. I cannot open
the cassette well door to insert a tape and it would not respond to
anything. Tried switching it off and on but the same problem persisted.
Basically now I cannot eject open the cassette well door, the CR-7E just
stays like this with the buttons lit up and I am unable to get it into
play or FF or REW or anything.

Is this due to orange caps or belts or a seized motor? I have not taken
it apart or lifted the lid yet as I wanted to see what you experts
advise first. Thanks in advance for your help.

Kelvin.




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Tom Brucker

Hi Tech Service

2934 Nolensville Pike

Nashville, TN USA

37220

hitech77 at earthlink.net

 

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From ronami at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 18 03:00:19 2010
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 18:00:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
In-Reply-To: <D66E98639BB1B941BC090114BA8BE648014DD703@ex2k.bankofamerica.com>
Message-ID: <83939.88623.qm@web50401.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


REW does not use a belt. If it plays but does not rewind, 
the problem could be caused by a bad reel motor or 
(less likely) a bad idler tire or (even less likely) an 
electronics malfunction. 

-- Ron




--- On Tue, 8/17/10, Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> wrote:

From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 11:32 AM




 
 






My nak bx-125 which used to not rewind at all a few days ago –
jus tused to try to rewind but never move the tape, started to rewind and it’s
a little choppy and squeaky now. 

I am wondering what can be used to freshen up the belts in
there. I am hoping to not change them, I will likely screw up big if I try
that. 

Can I clean it with a Qtip ? how about alcohol ? head cleaning
fluid ? acetone ? kerosene ? baby powder ? 

Thanks. 

Srinath. 

   



From:
naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Brucker

Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:15 AM

To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks

Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem 



   



Kelvin, 





Try moving the mode cam pulley with your finger or a pencil
erasure. All should return to normal. The cam motor has a dead spot. Deoxit may
help it work a while longer. Many Nak owners "exercise thier collection
once a month. The exercise keeps the belts from developing flat spots. 





  





tom brucker 





On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com>
wrote: 



Hi everyone,



My CR-7E has just developed a problem and I am looking for help in fixing it. A
bit of background:



My CR-7E was fuly serviced by Bowers & Wilkins in England 6 years ago, they
had done a good job and everything was working to Nak specs. The only thing is
I think they did not replace any orange caps as this was not mentioned on the
service note and I am not sure if they routinely replaced them or not.



It was working fine until yesterday. I had not switched it on for about 2 or 3
months and yesterday decided to switch it on. I have not inserted a tape yet
but had pressed play inadvertently and then the Play, FF, REW, Pause and Fader
up buttons just lit up and stayed on. I cannot open the cassette well door to
insert a tape and it would not respond to anything. Tried switching it off and
on but the same problem persisted. Basically now I cannot eject open the
cassette well door, the CR-7E just stays like this with the buttons lit up and I
am unable to get it into play or FF or REW or anything.



Is this due to orange caps or belts or a seized motor? I have not taken it
apart or lifted the lid yet as I wanted to see what you experts advise first.
Thanks in advance for your help.



Kelvin.



 





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Hi Tech Service 





2934 Nolensville Pike 





Nashville, TN USA 





37220 





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From classicaudiorepair at gmail.com  Wed Aug 18 05:22:14 2010
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com (Fred Longworth)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:22:14 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikDTjiEs24TgvqGLHr_8o6raHtsQaOaA3A-b1xZ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64125E0F9679D94686FAA7E52B4A16AB0CFC854D1E@EXCHMB.usq.edu.au>
	<435500.16255.qm@web30207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<64125E0F9679D94686FAA7E52B4A16AB0CFC854D25@EXCHMB.usq.edu.au>
	<COL122-W524140646C644A1D685E89D59C0@phx.gbl>
	<AANLkTikDTjiEs24TgvqGLHr_8o6raHtsQaOaA3A-b1xZ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=sVD4mgQ7cb-SSn4DWYJdV0Dnv93P0L7WR=ytd@mail.gmail.com>

Tom & Kelvin,

We have had excellent luck rebuilding those motors.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

* * * * *

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Tom Brucker <nakdoc77 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Kelvin,
> Try moving the mode cam pulley with your finger or a pencil erasure. All
> should return to normal. The cam motor has a dead spot. Deoxit may help it
> work a while longer. Many Nak owners "exercise thier collection once a
> month. The exercise keeps the belts from developing flat spots.
>
> tom brucker
>
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> My CR-7E has just developed a problem and I am looking for help in fixing
>> it. A bit of background:
>>
>> My CR-7E was fuly serviced by Bowers & Wilkins in England 6 years ago,
>> they had done a good job and everything was working to Nak specs. The only
>> thing is I think they did not replace any orange caps as this was not
>> mentioned on the service note and I am not sure if they routinely replaced
>> them or not.
>>
>> It was working fine until yesterday. I had not switched it on for about 2
>> or 3 months and yesterday decided to switch it on. I have not inserted a
>> tape yet but had pressed play inadvertently and then the Play, FF, REW,
>> Pause and Fader up buttons just lit up and stayed on. I cannot open the
>> cassette well door to insert a tape and it would not respond to anything.
>> Tried switching it off and on but the same problem persisted. Basically now
>> I cannot eject open the cassette well door, the CR-7E just stays like this
>> with the buttons lit up and I am unable to get it into play or FF or REW or
>> anything.
>>
>> Is this due to orange caps or belts or a seized motor? I have not taken it
>> apart or lifted the lid yet as I wanted to see what you experts advise
>> first. Thanks in advance for your help.
>>
>> Kelvin.
>>
>>
>>
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>          Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>                        Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
>> Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Tom Brucker
> Hi Tech Service
> 2934 Nolensville Pike
> Nashville, TN USA
> 37220
> hitech77 at earthlink.net
>
>
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From neiva.rogerio at gmail.com  Tue Aug 17 20:32:48 2010
From: neiva.rogerio at gmail.com (Rogerio Neiva)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 19:32:48 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Button for ZX-7
Message-ID: <AANLkTimf-jE357JUphQQuAADiXtCv+ZFBP7qYMRhUM70@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, the MPX button on my ZX-7 is broken. Does anyone know where I can find a
new one ?

Does anyone have an advise regarding how to glue it without leaving a
visible mark ? I know that the answer "glue it with great care" applies here
but any advise on the correct glue and technique is welcome. Specially
because one has to turn the button laterally making a side force that and I
am afraid that the glue will not hold.

Thank you and regards

Roger Neiva
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From winniepoohlove at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 18 08:20:55 2010
From: winniepoohlove at hotmail.com (winnie pooh)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 06:20:55 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=sVD4mgQ7cb-SSn4DWYJdV0Dnv93P0L7WR=ytd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64125E0F9679D94686FAA7E52B4A16AB0CFC854D1E@EXCHMB.usq.edu.au>,
	<435500.16255.qm@web30207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<64125E0F9679D94686FAA7E52B4A16AB0CFC854D25@EXCHMB.usq.edu.au>,
	<COL122-W524140646C644A1D685E89D59C0@phx.gbl>,
	<AANLkTikDTjiEs24TgvqGLHr_8o6raHtsQaOaA3A-b1xZ@mail.gmail.com>,
	<AANLkTi=sVD4mgQ7cb-SSn4DWYJdV0Dnv93P0L7WR=ytd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <COL122-W49FCB0131672D726ACE180D59D0@phx.gbl>


Thank you all for the help. Will try it this weekend and see if it solves the problem.

When you rebuild a motor, is it like the electric RC car motor rebuilds? Take it apart, clean the commutator, brush, rotor, etc etc? I used to play with electric RC cars a lot when younger so if the process is the same, should not be too difficult.

Thanks once again,
Kelvin.

Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:22:14 -0700
Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com
To: naktalk at naks.com

Tom & Kelvin,

We have had excellent luck rebuilding those motors.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

* * * * *


On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Tom Brucker <nakdoc77 at gmail.com> wrote:

Kelvin,
Try moving the mode cam pulley with your finger or a pencil erasure. All should return to normal. The cam motor has a dead spot. Deoxit may help it work a while longer. Many Nak owners "exercise thier collection once a month. The exercise keeps the belts from developing flat spots.


 
tom brucker


On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com> wrote:



Hi everyone,

My CR-7E has just developed a problem and I am looking for help in fixing it. A bit of background:

My CR-7E was fuly serviced by Bowers & Wilkins in England 6 years ago, they had done a good job and everything was working to Nak specs. The only thing is I think they did not replace any orange caps as this was not mentioned on the service note and I am not sure if they routinely replaced them or not.



It was working fine until yesterday. I had not switched it on for about 2 or 3 months and yesterday decided to switch it on. I have not inserted a tape yet but had pressed play inadvertently and then the Play, FF, REW, Pause and Fader up buttons just lit up and stayed on. I cannot open the cassette well door to insert a tape and it would not respond to anything. Tried switching it off and on but the same problem persisted. Basically now I cannot eject open the cassette well door, the CR-7E just stays like this with the buttons lit up and I am unable to get it into play or FF or REW or anything.



Is this due to orange caps or belts or a seized motor? I have not taken it apart or lifted the lid yet as I wanted to see what you experts advise first. Thanks in advance for your help.

Kelvin.





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From classicaudiorepair at gmail.com  Wed Aug 18 10:12:26 2010
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com (Fred Longworth)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 01:12:26 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Button for ZX-7
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Any chance you can post a picture of the broken button and the "stub" that
it goes on. Usually the candidates are tiny dabs of superglue or epoxy, but
it's hard to tell which without a pix.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Rogerio Neiva <neiva.rogerio at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi, the MPX button on my ZX-7 is broken. Does anyone know where I can find
> a new one ?
>
> Does anyone have an advise regarding how to glue it without leaving a
> visible mark ? I know that the answer "glue it with great care" applies here
> but any advise on the correct glue and technique is welcome. Specially
> because one has to turn the button laterally making a side force that and I
> am afraid that the glue will not hold.
>
> Thank you and regards
>
> Roger Neiva
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From classicaudiorepair at gmail.com  Wed Aug 18 10:47:18 2010
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com (Fred Longworth)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 01:47:18 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
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Yes. It must be done carefully, but here's the gist of it  After you take
the motor apart --

1. Use a dental pick or Xacto blade to ream out the narrow slots between the
commutator sections. These get clogged.
2. Lightly polish the commutator. This can get bumpy and uneven.
3. Adjust the brushes for more even contact. Often the brushes need to be
lightly recontoured. Sometimes you need to steal less-worn brushes from
other motors.
4. Lube bearings with Teflon lube. Machine oil and WD-40 are not as
effective as Teflon lube (e.g. Tri-Flow).

Good luck!!

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com


On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:20 PM, winnie pooh
<winneiepoohlove at hotmail.com>wrote:

>  Thank you all for the help. Will try it this weekend and see if it solves
> the problem.
> .
>
When you rebuild a motor, is it like the electric RC car motor rebuilds?
> Take it apart, clean the commutator, brush, rotor, etc etc? I used to play
> with electric RC cars a lot when younger so if the process is the same,
> should not be too difficult.
>
> Thanks once again,
> Kelvin.
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:22:14 -0700
>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
> From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com
> To: naktalk at naks.com
>
>
> Tom & Kelvin,
>
> We have had excellent luck rebuilding those motors.
>
> Fred
> Classic Audio Repair
> www.repairaudio.com
>
> * * * * *
>
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Tom Brucker <nakdoc77 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Kelvin,
> Try moving the mode cam pulley with your finger or a pencil erasure. All
> should return to normal. The cam motor has a dead spot. Deoxit may help it
> work a while longer. Many Nak owners "exercise thier collection once a
> month. The exercise keeps the belts from developing flat spots.
>
> tom brucker
>
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> My CR-7E has just developed a problem and I am looking for help in fixing
> it. A bit of background:
>
> My CR-7E was fuly serviced by Bowers & Wilkins in England 6 years ago, they
> had done a good job and everything was working to Nak specs. The only thing
> is I think they did not replace any orange caps as this was not mentioned on
> the service note and I am not sure if they routinely replaced them or not.
>
> It was working fine until yesterday. I had not switched it on for about 2
> or 3 months and yesterday decided to switch it on. I have not inserted a
> tape yet but had pressed play inadvertently and then the Play, FF, REW,
> Pause and Fader up buttons just lit up and stayed on. I cannot open the
> cassette well door to insert a tape and it would not respond to anything.
> Tried switching it off and on but the same problem persisted. Basically now
> I cannot eject open the cassette well door, the CR-7E just stays like this
> with the buttons lit up and I am unable to get it into play or FF or REW or
> anything.
>
> Is this due to orange caps or belts or a seized motor? I have not taken it
> apart or lifted the lid yet as I wanted to see what you experts advise
> first. Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Kelvin.
>
>
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From srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com  Wed Aug 18 14:49:18 2010
From: srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com (Seshadri, Srinath)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 08:49:18 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
In-Reply-To: <83939.88623.qm@web50401.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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Thanks for replying Ron.

As a follow up question – it was trying to rewind but not doing anything when I bought it.

Now it does rewind, it rattles and makes some squeaky noises. It played and FF perfectly all along.

So you think I could clean the reel motor and check the idler tire and see what it does ?

Thanks.

Srinath.

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:00 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem

 


REW does not use a belt. If it plays but does not rewind, 
the problem could be caused by a bad reel motor or 
(less likely) a bad idler tire or (even less likely) an 
electronics malfunction. 

-- Ron




--- On Tue, 8/17/10, Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> wrote:


From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 11:32 AM

My nak bx-125 which used to not rewind at all a few days ago – jus tused to try to rewind but never move the tape, started to rewind and it’s a little choppy and squeaky now.

I am wondering what can be used to freshen up the belts in there. I am hoping to not change them, I will likely screw up big if I try that.

Can I clean it with a Qtip ? how about alcohol ? head cleaning fluid ? acetone ? kerosene ? baby powder ?

Thanks.

Srinath.

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Tom Brucker
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:15 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem

 

Kelvin,

Try moving the mode cam pulley with your finger or a pencil erasure. All should return to normal. The cam motor has a dead spot. Deoxit may help it work a while longer. Many Nak owners "exercise thier collection once a month. The exercise keeps the belts from developing flat spots.

 

tom brucker

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi everyone,

My CR-7E has just developed a problem and I am looking for help in fixing it. A bit of background:

My CR-7E was fuly serviced by Bowers & Wilkins in England 6 years ago, they had done a good job and everything was working to Nak specs. The only thing is I think they did not replace any orange caps as this was not mentioned on the service note and I am not sure if they routinely replaced them or not.

It was working fine until yesterday. I had not switched it on for about 2 or 3 months and yesterday decided to switch it on. I have not inserted a tape yet but had pressed play inadvertently and then the Play, FF, REW, Pause and Fader up buttons just lit up and stayed on. I cannot open the cassette well door to insert a tape and it would not respond to anything. Tried switching it off and on but the same problem persisted. Basically now I cannot eject open the cassette well door, the CR-7E just stays like this with the buttons lit up and I am unable to get it into play or FF or REW or anything.

Is this due to orange caps or belts or a seized motor? I have not taken it apart or lifted the lid yet as I wanted to see what you experts advise first. Thanks in advance for your help.

Kelvin.


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From srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com  Wed Aug 18 17:46:27 2010
From: srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com (Seshadri, Srinath)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 11:46:27 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
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I’ve rewind more tapes in the last 3 hours than I have in the last 5 years. Its improved … a lot. Its now limited to tapes that are first time for it and generally tapes that are marginal to start with.

I am cleaning it a bit when I get a chance but else I am calling his one fine and dandy, just useable. Since I have a dozen cassette players and 5 are naks I think its going to sit there more than anything else. I better look at other decks that don’t rewind, like my ta2060 and clean em, cos rewind don’t use belts as you’ve explained it. I’d better figure out why its not rewinding.

Cool.

Srinath.

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Seshadri, Srinath
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:49 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.

 

Thanks for replying Ron.

As a follow up question – it was trying to rewind but not doing anything when I bought it.

Now it does rewind, it rattles and makes some squeaky noises. It played and FF perfectly all along.

So you think I could clean the reel motor and check the idler tire and see what it does ?

Thanks.

Srinath.

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:00 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem

 


REW does not use a belt. If it plays but does not rewind, 
the problem could be caused by a bad reel motor or 
(less likely) a bad idler tire or (even less likely) an 
electronics malfunction. 

-- Ron




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From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 11:32 AM

My nak bx-125 which used to not rewind at all a few days ago – jus tused to try to rewind but never move the tape, started to rewind and it’s a little choppy and squeaky now.

I am wondering what can be used to freshen up the belts in there. I am hoping to not change them, I will likely screw up big if I try that.

Can I clean it with a Qtip ? how about alcohol ? head cleaning fluid ? acetone ? kerosene ? baby powder ?

Thanks.

Srinath.

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Tom Brucker
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:15 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem

 

Kelvin,

Try moving the mode cam pulley with your finger or a pencil erasure. All should return to normal. The cam motor has a dead spot. Deoxit may help it work a while longer. Many Nak owners "exercise thier collection once a month. The exercise keeps the belts from developing flat spots.

 

tom brucker

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi everyone,

My CR-7E has just developed a problem and I am looking for help in fixing it. A bit of background:

My CR-7E was fuly serviced by Bowers & Wilkins in England 6 years ago, they had done a good job and everything was working to Nak specs. The only thing is I think they did not replace any orange caps as this was not mentioned on the service note and I am not sure if they routinely replaced them or not.

It was working fine until yesterday. I had not switched it on for about 2 or 3 months and yesterday decided to switch it on. I have not inserted a tape yet but had pressed play inadvertently and then the Play, FF, REW, Pause and Fader up buttons just lit up and stayed on. I cannot open the cassette well door to insert a tape and it would not respond to anything. Tried switching it off and on but the same problem persisted. Basically now I cannot eject open the cassette well door, the CR-7E just stays like this with the buttons lit up and I am unable to get it into play or FF or REW or anything.

Is this due to orange caps or belts or a seized motor? I have not taken it apart or lifted the lid yet as I wanted to see what you experts advise first. Thanks in advance for your help.

Kelvin.


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From classicaudiorepair at gmail.com  Wed Aug 18 20:39:49 2010
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com (Fred Longworth)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 11:39:49 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
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If fast wind is compromised, and if the mechanism uses a TIRE, I often
lightly sand the tire's surface with #1000 or #2000 sandpaper, and then I
treat the surface with this wonderful chemical --

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=341-362&source=googleps

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

* * * * *

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Seshadri, Srinath <
srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> wrote:

>  I’ve rewind more tapes in the last 3 hours than I have in the last 5
> years. Its improved … a lot. Its now limited to tapes that are first time
> for it and generally tapes that are marginal to start with.
>
> I am cleaning it a bit when I get a chance but else I am calling his one
> fine and dandy, just useable. Since I have a dozen cassette players and 5
> are naks I think its going to sit there more than anything else. I better
> look at other decks that don’t rewind, like my ta2060 and clean em, cos
> rewind don’t use belts as you’ve explained it. I’d better figure out why its
> not rewinding.
>
> Cool.
>
> Srinath.
>
>
>
> *From:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Seshadri, Srinath
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:49 AM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* [naktalk] BX125 issues.
>
>
>
> Thanks for replying Ron.
>
> As a follow up question – it was trying to rewind but not doing anything
> when I bought it.
>
> Now it does rewind, it rattles and makes some squeaky noises. It played and
> FF perfectly all along.
>
> So you think I could clean the reel motor and check the idler tire and see
> what it does ?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Srinath.
>
>
>
> *From:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Ron
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:00 PM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
>
>
>
>
> REW does not use a belt. If it plays but does not rewind,
> the problem could be caused by a bad reel motor or
> (less likely) a bad idler tire or (even less likely) an
> electronics malfunction.
>
> -- Ron
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 8/17/10, Seshadri, Srinath <
> srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
> Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 11:32 AM
>
> My nak bx-125 which used to not rewind at all a few days ago – jus tused to
> try to rewind but never move the tape, started to rewind and it’s a little
> choppy and squeaky now.
>
> I am wondering what can be used to freshen up the belts in there. I am
> hoping to not change them, I will likely screw up big if I try that.
>
> Can I clean it with a Qtip ? how about alcohol ? head cleaning fluid ?
> acetone ? kerosene ? baby powder ?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Srinath.
>
>
>
> *From:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Tom Brucker
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:15 AM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
>
>
>
> Kelvin,
>
> Try moving the mode cam pulley with your finger or a pencil erasure. All
> should return to normal. The cam motor has a dead spot. Deoxit may help it
> work a while longer. Many Nak owners "exercise thier collection once a
> month. The exercise keeps the belts from developing flat spots.
>
>
>
> tom brucker
>
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=winniepoohlove at hotmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> My CR-7E has just developed a problem and I am looking for help in fixing
> it. A bit of background:
>
> My CR-7E was fuly serviced by Bowers & Wilkins in England 6 years ago, they
> had done a good job and everything was working to Nak specs. The only thing
> is I think they did not replace any orange caps as this was not mentioned on
> the service note and I am not sure if they routinely replaced them or not.
>
> It was working fine until yesterday. I had not switched it on for about 2
> or 3 months and yesterday decided to switch it on. I have not inserted a
> tape yet but had pressed play inadvertently and then the Play, FF, REW,
> Pause and Fader up buttons just lit up and stayed on. I cannot open the
> cassette well door to insert a tape and it would not respond to anything.
> Tried switching it off and on but the same problem persisted. Basically now
> I cannot eject open the cassette well door, the CR-7E just stays like this
> with the buttons lit up and I am unable to get it into play or FF or REW or
> anything.
>
> Is this due to orange caps or belts or a seized motor? I have not taken it
> apart or lifted the lid yet as I wanted to see what you experts advise
> first. Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Kelvin.
>
>
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From srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com  Wed Aug 18 21:22:37 2010
From: srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com (Seshadri, Srinath)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 15:22:37 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
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References: <D66E98639BB1B941BC090114BA8BE648014DD703@ex2k.bankofamerica.com>
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	<D66E98639BB1B941BC090114BA8BE648014DDCE8@ex2k.bankofamerica.com>
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Aaaah Great, I may not have the nerve to hit it with 1000 grit sand
paper, but I will clean it with Q tip and alcohol. Then we see how it
goes, then put in rejuvenator. I have some good rejuvenator too, I
bought mine at the Harley store 10 years ago. Small tube lasts forever
even if you have a fleet of belt driven bikes like I do.

Thanks much.

Srinath.

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On
Behalf Of Fred Longworth
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:40 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX125 issues.

 

If fast wind is compromised, and if the mechanism uses a TIRE, I often
lightly sand the tire's surface with #1000 or #2000 sandpaper, and then
I treat the surface with this wonderful chemical --

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=341-362&source=g
oogleps

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

* * * * *

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Seshadri, Srinath
<srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> wrote:

I've rewind more tapes in the last 3 hours than I have in the last 5
years. Its improved ... a lot. Its now limited to tapes that are first
time for it and generally tapes that are marginal to start with.

I am cleaning it a bit when I get a chance but else I am calling his one
fine and dandy, just useable. Since I have a dozen cassette players and
5 are naks I think its going to sit there more than anything else. I
better look at other decks that don't rewind, like my ta2060 and clean
em, cos rewind don't use belts as you've explained it. I'd better figure
out why its not rewinding.

Cool.

Srinath.

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On
Behalf Of Seshadri, Srinath
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:49 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.

 

Thanks for replying Ron.

As a follow up question - it was trying to rewind but not doing anything
when I bought it.

Now it does rewind, it rattles and makes some squeaky noises. It played
and FF perfectly all along.

So you think I could clean the reel motor and check the idler tire and
see what it does ?

Thanks.

Srinath.

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On
Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:00 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem

 


REW does not use a belt. If it plays but does not rewind, 
the problem could be caused by a bad reel motor or 
(less likely) a bad idler tire or (even less likely) an 
electronics malfunction. 

-- Ron




--- On Tue, 8/17/10, Seshadri, Srinath
<srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> wrote:


From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 11:32 AM

My nak bx-125 which used to not rewind at all a few days ago - jus tused
to try to rewind but never move the tape, started to rewind and it's a
little choppy and squeaky now.

I am wondering what can be used to freshen up the belts in there. I am
hoping to not change them, I will likely screw up big if I try that.

Can I clean it with a Qtip ? how about alcohol ? head cleaning fluid ?
acetone ? kerosene ? baby powder ?

Thanks.

Srinath.

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Brucker
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:15 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem

 

Kelvin,

Try moving the mode cam pulley with your finger or a pencil erasure. All
should return to normal. The cam motor has a dead spot. Deoxit may help
it work a while longer. Many Nak owners "exercise thier collection once
a month. The exercise keeps the belts from developing flat spots.

 

tom brucker

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com
<http://mc/compose?to=winniepoohlove at hotmail.com> > wrote:

Hi everyone,

My CR-7E has just developed a problem and I am looking for help in
fixing it. A bit of background:

My CR-7E was fuly serviced by Bowers & Wilkins in England 6 years ago,
they had done a good job and everything was working to Nak specs. The
only thing is I think they did not replace any orange caps as this was
not mentioned on the service note and I am not sure if they routinely
replaced them or not.

It was working fine until yesterday. I had not switched it on for about
2 or 3 months and yesterday decided to switch it on. I have not inserted
a tape yet but had pressed play inadvertently and then the Play, FF,
REW, Pause and Fader up buttons just lit up and stayed on. I cannot open
the cassette well door to insert a tape and it would not respond to
anything. Tried switching it off and on but the same problem persisted.
Basically now I cannot eject open the cassette well door, the CR-7E just
stays like this with the buttons lit up and I am unable to get it into
play or FF or REW or anything.

Is this due to orange caps or belts or a seized motor? I have not taken
it apart or lifted the lid yet as I wanted to see what you experts
advise first. Thanks in advance for your help.

Kelvin.


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From classicaudiorepair at gmail.com  Wed Aug 18 23:05:25 2010
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com (Fred Longworth)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 14:05:25 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
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I hold a small roll of #1000 or #2000 in a pair of hemostats. I press the
sandpaper against the rim of the tire, and rotate the tire using a wooden
stick. This removes the outer layer of dead rubber. This should be done
AFTER any cleaning with alcohol, as alcohol degrades the urethane in the
tire.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

* * * * *

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Seshadri, Srinath <
srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> wrote:

>  Aaaah Great, I may not have the nerve to hit it with 1000 grit sand
> paper, but I will clean it with Q tip and alcohol. Then we see how it goes,
> then put in rejuvenator. I have some good rejuvenator too, I bought mine at
> the Harley store 10 years ago. Small tube lasts forever even if you have a
> fleet of belt driven bikes like I do.
>
> Thanks much.
>
> Srinath.
>
>
>
> *From:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Fred Longworth
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:40 PM
>
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
>
>
>
> If fast wind is compromised, and if the mechanism uses a TIRE, I often
> lightly sand the tire's surface with #1000 or #2000 sandpaper, and then I
> treat the surface with this wonderful chemical --
>
>
> http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=341-362&source=googleps
>
> Fred
> Classic Audio Repair
> www.repairaudio.com
>
> * * * * *
>
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Seshadri, Srinath <
> srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> wrote:
>
> I’ve rewind more tapes in the last 3 hours than I have in the last 5 years.
> Its improved … a lot. Its now limited to tapes that are first time for it
> and generally tapes that are marginal to start with.
>
> I am cleaning it a bit when I get a chance but else I am calling his one
> fine and dandy, just useable. Since I have a dozen cassette players and 5
> are naks I think its going to sit there more than anything else. I better
> look at other decks that don’t rewind, like my ta2060 and clean em, cos
> rewind don’t use belts as you’ve explained it. I’d better figure out why its
> not rewinding.
>
> Cool.
>
> Srinath.
>
>
>
> *From:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Seshadri, Srinath
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:49 AM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* [naktalk] BX125 issues.
>
>
>
> Thanks for replying Ron.
>
> As a follow up question – it was trying to rewind but not doing anything
> when I bought it.
>
> Now it does rewind, it rattles and makes some squeaky noises. It played and
> FF perfectly all along.
>
> So you think I could clean the reel motor and check the idler tire and see
> what it does ?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Srinath.
>
>
>
> *From:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Ron
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:00 PM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
>
>
>
>
> REW does not use a belt. If it plays but does not rewind,
> the problem could be caused by a bad reel motor or
> (less likely) a bad idler tire or (even less likely) an
> electronics malfunction.
>
> -- Ron
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 8/17/10, Seshadri, Srinath <
> srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
> Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 11:32 AM
>
> My nak bx-125 which used to not rewind at all a few days ago – jus tused to
> try to rewind but never move the tape, started to rewind and it’s a little
> choppy and squeaky now.
>
> I am wondering what can be used to freshen up the belts in there. I am
> hoping to not change them, I will likely screw up big if I try that.
>
> Can I clean it with a Qtip ? how about alcohol ? head cleaning fluid ?
> acetone ? kerosene ? baby powder ?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Srinath.
>
>
>
> *From:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Tom Brucker
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:15 AM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
>
>
>
> Kelvin,
>
> Try moving the mode cam pulley with your finger or a pencil erasure. All
> should return to normal. The cam motor has a dead spot. Deoxit may help it
> work a while longer. Many Nak owners "exercise thier collection once a
> month. The exercise keeps the belts from developing flat spots.
>
>
>
> tom brucker
>
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=winniepoohlove at hotmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> My CR-7E has just developed a problem and I am looking for help in fixing
> it. A bit of background:
>
> My CR-7E was fuly serviced by Bowers & Wilkins in England 6 years ago, they
> had done a good job and everything was working to Nak specs. The only thing
> is I think they did not replace any orange caps as this was not mentioned on
> the service note and I am not sure if they routinely replaced them or not.
>
> It was working fine until yesterday. I had not switched it on for about 2
> or 3 months and yesterday decided to switch it on. I have not inserted a
> tape yet but had pressed play inadvertently and then the Play, FF, REW,
> Pause and Fader up buttons just lit up and stayed on. I cannot open the
> cassette well door to insert a tape and it would not respond to anything.
> Tried switching it off and on but the same problem persisted. Basically now
> I cannot eject open the cassette well door, the CR-7E just stays like this
> with the buttons lit up and I am unable to get it into play or FF or REW or
> anything.
>
> Is this due to orange caps or belts or a seized motor? I have not taken it
> apart or lifted the lid yet as I wanted to see what you experts advise
> first. Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Kelvin.
>
>
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From kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 18 23:06:59 2010
From: kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com (kannan srinivasaraghavan)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 14:06:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
In-Reply-To: <D66E98639BB1B941BC090114BA8BE648014DE1A1@ex2k.bankofamerica.com>
Message-ID: <338784.11088.qm@web33305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

This would be a short time solution as the idler tire is so small and worn out tire won't last long . Get a new tire ( including eslabs ones or cheaper ebay ones ) and install for couple of years trouble free performance
kannan

--- On Wed, 8/18/10, Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> wrote:


From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 3:22 PM








Aaaah Great, I may not have the nerve to hit it with 1000 grit sand paper, but I will clean it with Q tip and alcohol. Then we see how it goes, then put in rejuvenator. I have some good rejuvenator too, I bought mine at the Harley store 10 years ago. Small tube lasts forever even if you have a fleet of belt driven bikes like I do.
Thanks much.
Srinath.
 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Fred Longworth
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:40 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
 
If fast wind is compromised, and if the mechanism uses a TIRE, I often lightly sand the tire's surface with #1000 or #2000 sandpaper, and then I treat the surface with this wonderful chemical --

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=341-362&source=googleps

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

* * * * *

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> wrote:


I’ve rewind more tapes in the last 3 hours than I have in the last 5 years. Its improved … a lot. Its now limited to tapes that are first time for it and generally tapes that are marginal to start with.
I am cleaning it a bit when I get a chance but else I am calling his one fine and dandy, just useable. Since I have a dozen cassette players and 5 are naks I think its going to sit there more than anything else. I better look at other decks that don’t rewind, like my ta2060 and clean em, cos rewind don’t use belts as you’ve explained it. I’d better figure out why its not rewinding.
Cool.
Srinath.
 


From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Seshadri, Srinath
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:49 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
 
Thanks for replying Ron.
As a follow up question – it was trying to rewind but not doing anything when I bought it.
Now it does rewind, it rattles and makes some squeaky noises. It played and FF perfectly all along.
So you think I could clean the reel motor and check the idler tire and see what it does ?
Thanks.
Srinath.
 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:00 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
 





REW does not use a belt. If it plays but does not rewind, 
the problem could be caused by a bad reel motor or 
(less likely) a bad idler tire or (even less likely) an 
electronics malfunction. 

-- Ron




--- On Tue, 8/17/10, Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> wrote:

From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 11:32 AM


My nak bx-125 which used to not rewind at all a few days ago – jus tused to try to rewind but never move the tape, started to rewind and it’s a little choppy and squeaky now.
I am wondering what can be used to freshen up the belts in there. I am hoping to not change them, I will likely screw up big if I try that.
Can I clean it with a Qtip ? how about alcohol ? head cleaning fluid ? acetone ? kerosene ? baby powder ?
Thanks.
Srinath.
 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Tom Brucker
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:15 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
 

Kelvin,

Try moving the mode cam pulley with your finger or a pencil erasure. All should return to normal. The cam motor has a dead spot. Deoxit may help it work a while longer. Many Nak owners "exercise thier collection once a month. The exercise keeps the belts from developing flat spots.

 

tom brucker

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi everyone,

My CR-7E has just developed a problem and I am looking for help in fixing it. A bit of background:

My CR-7E was fuly serviced by Bowers & Wilkins in England 6 years ago, they had done a good job and everything was working to Nak specs. The only thing is I think they did not replace any orange caps as this was not mentioned on the service note and I am not sure if they routinely replaced them or not.

It was working fine until yesterday. I had not switched it on for about 2 or 3 months and yesterday decided to switch it on. I have not inserted a tape yet but had pressed play inadvertently and then the Play, FF, REW, Pause and Fader up buttons just lit up and stayed on. I cannot open the cassette well door to insert a tape and it would not respond to anything. Tried switching it off and on but the same problem persisted. Basically now I cannot eject open the cassette well door, the CR-7E just stays like this with the buttons lit up and I am unable to get it into play or FF or REW or anything.

Is this due to orange caps or belts or a seized motor? I have not taken it apart or lifted the lid yet as I wanted to see what you experts advise first. Thanks in advance for your help.

Kelvin.

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From ronami at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 18 23:26:06 2010
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 14:26:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
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Yes, it's a very similar process. If you have had some 
experience, you may wish to do it yourself. 

-- Ron



--- On Wed, 8/18/10, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
To: "naktalk" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 2:20 AM




Thank you all for the help. Will try it this weekend and see if it solves the problem.

When you rebuild a motor, is it like the electric RC car motor rebuilds? Take it apart, clean the commutator, brush, rotor, etc etc? I used to play with electric RC cars a lot when younger so if the process is the same, should not be too difficult.

Thanks once again,
Kelvin.

Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:22:14 -0700
Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com
To: naktalk at naks.com

Tom & Kelvin,

We have had excellent luck rebuilding those motors.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

* * * * *


On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Tom Brucker <nakdoc77 at gmail.com> wrote:

Kelvin,
Try moving the mode cam pulley with your finger or a pencil erasure. All should return to normal. The cam motor has a dead spot. Deoxit may help it work a while longer. Many Nak owners "exercise thier collection once a month. The exercise keeps the belts from developing flat spots.


 
tom brucker


On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com> wrote:



Hi everyone,

My CR-7E has just developed a problem and I am looking for help in fixing it. A bit of background:

My CR-7E was fuly serviced by Bowers & Wilkins in England 6 years ago, they had done a good job and everything was working to Nak specs. The only thing is I think they did not replace any orange caps as this was not mentioned on the service note and I am not sure if they routinely replaced them or not.



It was working fine until yesterday. I had not switched it on for about 2 or 3 months and yesterday decided to switch it on. I have not inserted a tape yet but had pressed play inadvertently and then the Play, FF, REW, Pause and Fader up buttons just lit up and stayed on. I cannot open the cassette well door to insert a tape and it would not respond to anything. Tried switching it off and on but the same problem persisted. Basically now I cannot eject open the cassette well door, the CR-7E just stays like this with the buttons lit up and I am unable to get it into play or FF or REW or anything.



Is this due to orange caps or belts or a seized motor? I have not taken it apart or lifted the lid yet as I wanted to see what you experts advise first. Thanks in advance for your help.

Kelvin.





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From classicaudiorepair at gmail.com  Thu Aug 19 01:32:45 2010
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com (Fred Longworth)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:32:45 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
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Regardless . . . the CR-7E is a terrific machine. You will get MEGA pleasure
out of it. One of the finest cassette decks EVER.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> Yes, it's a very similar process. If you have had some
> experience, you may wish to do it yourself.
>
> -- Ron
>
>
>
> --- On *Wed, 8/18/10, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
>
> To: "naktalk" <naktalk at naks.com>
> Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 2:20 AM
>
>
> Thank you all for the help. Will try it this weekend and see if it solves
> the problem.
>
> When you rebuild a motor, is it like the electric RC car motor rebuilds?
> Take it apart, clean the commutator, brush, rotor, etc etc? I used to play
> with electric RC cars a lot when younger so if the process is the same,
> should not be too difficult.
>
> Thanks once again,
> Kelvin.
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:22:14 -0700
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
> From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com
> To: naktalk at naks.com
>
> Tom & Kelvin,
>
> We have had excellent luck rebuilding those motors.
>
> Fred
> Classic Audio Repair
> www.repairaudio.com
>
> * * * * *
>
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Tom Brucker <nakdoc77 at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=nakdoc77 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> Kelvin,
> Try moving the mode cam pulley with your finger or a pencil erasure. All
> should return to normal. The cam motor has a dead spot. Deoxit may help it
> work a while longer. Many Nak owners "exercise thier collection once a
> month. The exercise keeps the belts from developing flat spots.
>
> tom brucker
>
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=winniepoohlove at hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> My CR-7E has just developed a problem and I am looking for help in fixing
> it. A bit of background:
>
> My CR-7E was fuly serviced by Bowers & Wilkins in England 6 years ago, they
> had done a good job and everything was working to Nak specs. The only thing
> is I think they did not replace any orange caps as this was not mentioned on
> the service note and I am not sure if they routinely replaced them or not.
>
> It was working fine until yesterday. I had not switched it on for about 2
> or 3 months and yesterday decided to switch it on. I have not inserted a
> tape yet but had pressed play inadvertently and then the Play, FF, REW,
> Pause and Fader up buttons just lit up and stayed on. I cannot open the
> cassette well door to insert a tape and it would not respond to anything.
> Tried switching it off and on but the same problem persisted. Basically now
> I cannot eject open the cassette well door, the CR-7E just stays like this
> with the buttons lit up and I am unable to get it into play or FF or REW or
> anything.
>
> Is this due to orange caps or belts or a seized motor? I have not taken it
> apart or lifted the lid yet as I wanted to see what you experts advise
> first. Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Kelvin.
>
>
>
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> --
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> Nashville, TN USA
> 37220
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From classicaudiorepair at gmail.com  Thu Aug 19 01:42:53 2010
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com (Fred Longworth)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:42:53 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
In-Reply-To: <338784.11088.qm@web33305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Yes, if the tire is actually worn out, a new tire is in order. These are
best purchased from Marrs Communications.

When replacing tires, make sure that the *idler arm assembly* is either
removed or braced. Replacing a tire on an unbraced arm often causes severe
damages. The pivot pins for the assembly can get bent, and the assembly
itself can get deformed or cracked.

I always place a piece of cloth (or a towel or piece of carpet) under the
set when I'm working on it. This way, if I drop some small part (and I
usually do), the part will get caught in the fibers rather than going
flying.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

* * * * *

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 2:06 PM, kannan srinivasaraghavan <
kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com> wrote:

> This would be a short time solution as the idler tire is so small and worn
> out tire won't last long . Get a new tire ( including eslabs ones or cheaper
> ebay ones ) and install for couple of years trouble free performance
> kannan
>
>
> --- On *Wed, 8/18/10, Seshadri, Srinath <
> srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
>
> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
> Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 3:22 PM
>
>
>  Aaaah Great, I may not have the nerve to hit it with 1000 grit sand
> paper, but I will clean it with Q tip and alcohol. Then we see how it goes,
> then put in rejuvenator. I have some good rejuvenator too, I bought mine at
> the Harley store 10 years ago. Small tube lasts forever even if you have a
> fleet of belt driven bikes like I do.
>
> Thanks much.
>
> Srinath.
>
>
>
> *From:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Fred Longworth
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:40 PM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
>
>
>
> If fast wind is compromised, and if the mechanism uses a TIRE, I often
> lightly sand the tire's surface with #1000 or #2000 sandpaper, and then I
> treat the surface with this wonderful chemical --
>
>
> http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=341-362&source=googleps
>
> Fred
> Classic Audio Repair
> www.repairaudio.com
>
> * * * * *
>
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Seshadri, Srinath <
> srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>>
> wrote:
>
> I’ve rewind more tapes in the last 3 hours than I have in the last 5 years.
> Its improved … a lot. Its now limited to tapes that are first time for it
> and generally tapes that are marginal to start with.
>
> I am cleaning it a bit when I get a chance but else I am calling his one
> fine and dandy, just useable. Since I have a dozen cassette players and 5
> are naks I think its going to sit there more than anything else. I better
> look at other decks that don’t rewind, like my ta2060 and clean em, cos
> rewind don’t use belts as you’ve explained it. I’d better figure out why its
> not rewinding.
>
> Cool.
>
> Srinath.
>
>
>
> *From:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>[mailto:
> naktalk-bounces at naks.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>]
> *On Behalf Of *Seshadri, Srinath
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:49 AM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* [naktalk] BX125 issues.
>
>
>
> Thanks for replying Ron.
>
> As a follow up question – it was trying to rewind but not doing anything
> when I bought it.
>
> Now it does rewind, it rattles and makes some squeaky noises. It played and
> FF perfectly all along.
>
> So you think I could clean the reel motor and check the idler tire and see
> what it does ?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Srinath.
>
>
>
> *From:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>[mailto:
> naktalk-bounces at naks.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>]
> *On Behalf Of *Ron
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:00 PM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
>
>
>
>
> REW does not use a belt. If it plays but does not rewind,
> the problem could be caused by a bad reel motor or
> (less likely) a bad idler tire or (even less likely) an
> electronics malfunction.
>
> -- Ron
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 8/17/10, Seshadri, Srinath <
> srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
> >
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk at naks.com>
> >
> Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 11:32 AM
>  My nak bx-125 which used to not rewind at all a few days ago – jus tused
> to try to rewind but never move the tape, started to rewind and it’s a
> little choppy and squeaky now.
> I am wondering what can be used to freshen up the belts in there. I am
> hoping to not change them, I will likely screw up big if I try that.
> Can I clean it with a Qtip ? how about alcohol ? head cleaning fluid ?
> acetone ? kerosene ? baby powder ?
> Thanks.
> Srinath.
>
>  *From:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>[mailto:
> naktalk-bounces at naks.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>]
> *On Behalf Of *Tom Brucker
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:15 AM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
>
>  Kelvin,
>  Try moving the mode cam pulley with your finger or a pencil erasure. All
> should return to normal. The cam motor has a dead spot. Deoxit may help it
> work a while longer. Many Nak owners "exercise thier collection once a
> month. The exercise keeps the belts from developing flat spots.
>
>
> tom brucker
>  On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=winniepoohlove at hotmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> My CR-7E has just developed a problem and I am looking for help in fixing
> it. A bit of background:
>
> My CR-7E was fuly serviced by Bowers & Wilkins in England 6 years ago, they
> had done a good job and everything was working to Nak specs. The only thing
> is I think they did not replace any orange caps as this was not mentioned on
> the service note and I am not sure if they routinely replaced them or not.
>
> It was working fine until yesterday. I had not switched it on for about 2
> or 3 months and yesterday decided to switch it on. I have not inserted a
> tape yet but had pressed play inadvertently and then the Play, FF, REW,
> Pause and Fader up buttons just lit up and stayed on. I cannot open the
> cassette well door to insert a tape and it would not respond to anything.
> Tried switching it off and on but the same problem persisted. Basically now
> I cannot eject open the cassette well door, the CR-7E just stays like this
> with the buttons lit up and I am unable to get it into play or FF or REW or
> anything.
>
> Is this due to orange caps or belts or a seized motor? I have not taken it
> apart or lifted the lid yet as I wanted to see what you experts advise
> first. Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Kelvin.
>
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 19 02:07:23 2010
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 17:07:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
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I agree. Trying to repair an idler tire doesn't make sense. 
Last time I looked they were less than a buck apiece.

-- Ron



--- On Wed, 8/18/10, kannan srinivasaraghavan <kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: kannan srinivasaraghavan <kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 5:06 PM

This would be a short time solution as the idler tire is so small and worn out tire won't last long . Get a new tire ( including eslabs ones or cheaper ebay ones ) and install for couple of years trouble free performance
kannan

--- On Wed, 8/18/10, Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> wrote:


From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 3:22 PM








Aaaah Great, I may not have the nerve to hit it with 1000 grit sand paper, but I will clean it with Q tip and alcohol. Then we see how it goes, then put in rejuvenator. I have some good rejuvenator too, I bought mine at the Harley store 10 years ago. Small tube lasts forever even if you have a fleet of belt driven bikes like I do.
Thanks much.
Srinath.
 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Fred Longworth
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:40 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
 
If fast wind is compromised, and if the mechanism uses a TIRE, I often lightly sand the tire's surface with #1000 or #2000 sandpaper, and then I treat the surface with this wonderful chemical --

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=341-362&source=googleps

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

* * * * *

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> wrote:


I’ve rewind more tapes in the last 3 hours than I have in the last 5 years. Its improved … a lot. Its now limited to tapes that are first time for it and generally tapes that are marginal to start with.
I am cleaning it a bit when I get a chance but else I am calling his one fine and dandy, just useable. Since I have a dozen cassette players and 5 are naks I think its going to sit there more than anything else. I better look at other decks that don’t rewind, like my ta2060 and clean em, cos rewind don’t use belts as you’ve explained it. I’d better figure out why its not rewinding.
Cool.
Srinath.
 


From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Seshadri, Srinath
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:49 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
 
Thanks for replying Ron.
As a follow up question – it was trying to rewind but not doing anything when I bought it.
Now it does rewind, it rattles and makes some squeaky noises. It played and FF perfectly all along.
So you think I could clean the reel motor and check the idler tire and see what it does ?
Thanks.
Srinath.
 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:00 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
 





REW does not use a belt. If it plays but does not rewind, 
the problem could be caused by a bad reel motor or 
(less likely) a bad idler tire or (even less likely) an 
electronics malfunction. 

-- Ron




--- On Tue, 8/17/10, Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> wrote:

From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 11:32 AM


My nak bx-125 which used to not rewind at all a few days ago – jus tused to try to rewind but never move the tape, started to rewind and it’s a little choppy and squeaky now.
I am wondering what can be used to freshen up the belts in there. I am hoping to not change them, I will likely screw up big if I try that.
Can I clean it with a Qtip ? how about alcohol ? head cleaning fluid ? acetone ? kerosene ? baby powder ?
Thanks.
Srinath.
 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Tom Brucker
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:15 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
 

Kelvin,

Try moving the mode cam pulley with your finger or a pencil erasure. All should return to normal. The cam motor has a dead spot. Deoxit may help it work a while longer. Many Nak owners "exercise thier collection once a month. The exercise keeps the belts from developing flat spots.

 

tom brucker

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi everyone,

My CR-7E has just developed a problem and I am looking for help in fixing it. A bit of background:

My CR-7E was fuly serviced by Bowers & Wilkins in England 6 years ago, they had done a good job and everything was working to Nak specs. The only thing is I think they did not replace any orange caps as this was not mentioned on the service note and I am not sure if they routinely replaced them or not.

It was working fine until yesterday. I had not switched it on for about 2 or 3 months and yesterday decided to switch it on. I have not inserted a tape yet but had pressed play inadvertently and then the Play, FF, REW, Pause and Fader up buttons just lit up and stayed on. I cannot open the cassette well door to insert a tape and it would not respond to anything. Tried switching it off and on but the same problem persisted. Basically now I cannot eject open the cassette well door, the CR-7E
 just stays like this with the buttons lit up and I am unable to get it into play or FF or REW or anything.

Is this due to orange caps or belts or a seized motor? I have not taken it apart or lifted the lid yet as I wanted to see what you experts advise first. Thanks in advance for your help.

Kelvin.

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From classicaudiorepair at gmail.com  Thu Aug 19 03:50:37 2010
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com (Fred Longworth)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:50:37 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
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	<899003.54647.qm@web50408.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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Although Nakamichis are a welcome exception, largely due to Marrs
Communications, repairing idler tires is often the ONLY solution. A great
many tires are no longer available, and no reasonable substitute exists. I
might even go so far as to say that if you can't restore a great many idler
tires, you can only service a limited variety of cassette decks.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

* * * * *

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> I agree. Trying to repair an idler tire doesn't make sense.
> Last time I looked they were less than a buck apiece.
>
> -- Ron
>
>
>
> --- On *Wed, 8/18/10, kannan srinivasaraghavan <kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: kannan srinivasaraghavan <kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com>
>
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
> Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 5:06 PM
>
>
> This would be a short time solution as the idler tire is so small and worn
> out tire won't last long . Get a new tire ( including eslabs ones or cheaper
> ebay ones ) and install for couple of years trouble free performance
> kannan
>
> --- On *Wed, 8/18/10, Seshadri, Srinath <
> srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
> Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 3:22 PM
>
>  Aaaah Great, I may not have the nerve to hit it with 1000 grit sand
> paper, but I will clean it with Q tip and alcohol. Then we see how it goes,
> then put in rejuvenator. I have some good rejuvenator too, I bought mine at
> the Harley store 10 years ago. Small tube lasts forever even if you have a
> fleet of belt driven bikes like I do.
>
> Thanks much.
>
> Srinath.
>
>
>
> *From:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Fred Longworth
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:40 PM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
>
>
>
> If fast wind is compromised, and if the mechanism uses a TIRE, I often
> lightly sand the tire's surface with #1000 or #2000 sandpaper, and then I
> treat the surface with this wonderful chemical --
>
>
> http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=341-362&source=googleps
>
> Fred
> Classic Audio Repair
> www.repairaudio.com
>
> * * * * *
>
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Seshadri, Srinath <
> srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>>
> wrote:
>
> I’ve rewind more tapes in the last 3 hours than I have in the last 5 years.
> Its improved … a lot. Its now limited to tapes that are first time for it
> and generally tapes that are marginal to start with.
>
> I am cleaning it a bit when I get a chance but else I am calling his one
> fine and dandy, just useable. Since I have a dozen cassette players and 5
> are naks I think its going to sit there more than anything else. I better
> look at other decks that don’t rewind, like my ta2060 and clean em, cos
> rewind don’t use belts as you’ve explained it. I’d better figure out why its
> not rewinding.
>
> Cool.
>
> Srinath.
>
>
>
> *From:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>[mailto:
> naktalk-bounces at naks.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>]
> *On Behalf Of *Seshadri, Srinath
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:49 AM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* [naktalk] BX125 issues.
>
>
>
> Thanks for replying Ron.
>
> As a follow up question – it was trying to rewind but not doing anything
> when I bought it.
>
> Now it does rewind, it rattles and makes some squeaky noises. It played and
> FF perfectly all along.
>
> So you think I could clean the reel motor and check the idler tire and see
> what it does ?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Srinath.
>
>
>
> *From:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>[mailto:
> naktalk-bounces at naks.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>]
> *On Behalf Of *Ron
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:00 PM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
>
>
>
>
> REW does not use a belt. If it plays but does not rewind,
> the problem could be caused by a bad reel motor or
> (less likely) a bad idler tire or (even less likely) an
> electronics malfunction.
>
> -- Ron
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 8/17/10, Seshadri, Srinath <
> srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
> >
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk at naks.com>
> >
> Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 11:32 AM
>  My nak bx-125 which used to not rewind at all a few days ago – jus tused
> to try to rewind but never move the tape, started to rewind and it’s a
> little choppy and squeaky now.
> I am wondering what can be used to freshen up the belts in there. I am
> hoping to not change them, I will likely screw up big if I try that.
> Can I clean it with a Qtip ? how about alcohol ? head cleaning fluid ?
> acetone ? kerosene ? baby powder ?
> Thanks.
> Srinath.
>
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>  Kelvin,
>  Try moving the mode cam pulley with your finger or a pencil erasure. All
> should return to normal. The cam motor has a dead spot. Deoxit may help it
> work a while longer. Many Nak owners "exercise thier collection once a
> month. The exercise keeps the belts from developing flat spots.
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> tom brucker
>  On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=winniepoohlove at hotmail.com>>
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> Hi everyone,
>
> My CR-7E has just developed a problem and I am looking for help in fixing
> it. A bit of background:
>
> My CR-7E was fuly serviced by Bowers & Wilkins in England 6 years ago, they
> had done a good job and everything was working to Nak specs. The only thing
> is I think they did not replace any orange caps as this was not mentioned on
> the service note and I am not sure if they routinely replaced them or not.
>
> It was working fine until yesterday. I had not switched it on for about 2
> or 3 months and yesterday decided to switch it on. I have not inserted a
> tape yet but had pressed play inadvertently and then the Play, FF, REW,
> Pause and Fader up buttons just lit up and stayed on. I cannot open the
> cassette well door to insert a tape and it would not respond to anything.
> Tried switching it off and on but the same problem persisted. Basically now
> I cannot eject open the cassette well door, the CR-7E just stays like this
> with the buttons lit up and I am unable to get it into play or FF or REW or
> anything.
>
> Is this due to orange caps or belts or a seized motor? I have not taken it
> apart or lifted the lid yet as I wanted to see what you experts advise
> first. Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Kelvin.
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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 19 09:11:55 2010
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 00:11:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim1MAUB_2eVP0RWC_qK1xECUYs3adg+fQ3BE3kZ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <587484.19271.qm@web30202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

ESL may have a replacement for this idler. They do have them for the classic mechanisms. I tried grit sanding the idlers but it is just a stop gap solution. The guy who invents something to soften hard rubber will give life to hundreds if not thousands of decks. 

Bala

--- On Thu, 8/19/10, Fred Longworth <classicaudiorepair at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Fred Longworth <classicaudiorepair at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 9:50 AM

Although Nakamichis are a welcome exception, largely due to Marrs Communications, repairing idler tires is often the ONLY solution. A great many tires are no longer available, and no reasonable substitute exists. I might even go so far as to say that if you can't restore a great many idler tires, you can only service a limited variety of cassette decks.


Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

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On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:



I agree. Trying to repair an idler tire doesn't make sense. 
Last time I looked they were less than a buck apiece.

-- Ron



--- On Wed, 8/18/10, kannan srinivasaraghavan <kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: kannan srinivasaraghavan <kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com>

Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 5:06 PM



This would be a short time solution as the idler tire is so small and worn out tire won't last long . Get a new tire ( including eslabs ones or cheaper ebay
 ones ) and install for couple of years trouble free performance
kannan

--- On Wed, 8/18/10, Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> wrote:


From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>

Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 3:22 PM







Aaaah Great, I may not have the nerve to hit it with 1000 grit sand paper, but I will clean it with Q tip and alcohol. Then we see how it goes, then put in rejuvenator. I have some good rejuvenator too, I bought mine at the Harley store 10 years ago. Small tube lasts forever even if you have a fleet of belt driven bikes like I do.

Thanks much.
Srinath.
 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Fred Longworth

Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:40 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
 
If fast wind is compromised, and if the mechanism uses a TIRE, I often lightly sand the tire's surface with #1000 or #2000 sandpaper, and then I treat the surface with this wonderful chemical --


http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=341-362&source=googleps


Fred
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On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> wrote:



I’ve rewind more tapes in the last 3 hours than I have in the last 5 years. Its improved … a lot. Its now limited to tapes that are first time for it and generally tapes that are marginal to start with.

I am cleaning it a bit when I get a chance but else I am calling his one fine and dandy, just useable. Since I have a dozen cassette players and 5 are naks I think its going to sit there more than anything else. I better look at other decks that don’t rewind, like my ta2060 and clean em, cos rewind don’t use belts as you’ve explained it. I’d better figure out why its not rewinding.

Cool.
Srinath.
 


From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Seshadri, Srinath

Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:49 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
 
Thanks for replying Ron.
As a follow up question – it was trying to rewind but not doing anything when I bought it.
Now it does rewind, it rattles and makes some squeaky noises. It played and FF perfectly all along.
So you think I could clean the reel motor and check the idler tire and see what it does ?
Thanks.
Srinath.
 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ron

Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:00 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
 





REW does not use a belt. If it plays but does not rewind, 
the problem could be caused by a bad reel motor or 
(less likely) a bad idler tire or (even less likely) an 
electronics malfunction. 

-- Ron





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From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>

Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>

Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 11:32 AM


My nak bx-125 which used to not rewind at all a few days ago – jus tused to try to rewind but never move the tape, started to rewind and it’s a little choppy and squeaky now.

I am wondering what can be used to freshen up the belts in there. I am hoping to not change them, I will likely screw up big if I try that.
Can I clean it with a Qtip ? how about alcohol ? head cleaning fluid ? acetone ? kerosene ? baby powder ?
Thanks.
Srinath.
 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Tom Brucker

Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:15 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
 

Kelvin,

Try moving the mode cam pulley with your finger or a pencil erasure. All should return to normal. The cam motor has a dead spot. Deoxit may help it work a while longer. Many Nak owners "exercise thier collection once a month. The exercise keeps the belts from developing flat spots.


 

tom brucker

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi everyone,

My CR-7E has just developed a problem and I am looking for help in fixing it. A bit of background:

My CR-7E was fuly serviced by Bowers & Wilkins in England 6 years ago, they had done a good job and everything was working to Nak specs. The only thing is I think they did not replace any orange caps as this was not mentioned on the service note and I am not sure if they routinely replaced them or not.


It was working fine until yesterday. I had not switched it on for about 2 or 3 months and yesterday decided to switch it on. I have not inserted a tape yet but had pressed play inadvertently and then the Play, FF, REW, Pause and Fader up buttons just lit up and stayed on. I cannot open the cassette well door to insert a tape and it would not respond to anything. Tried switching it off and on but the same problem persisted. Basically now I cannot eject open the cassette well door, the CR-7E
 just stays like this with the buttons lit up and I am unable to get it into play or FF or REW or anything.

Is this due to orange caps or belts or a seized motor? I have not taken it apart or lifted the lid yet as I wanted to see what you experts advise first. Thanks in advance for your help.


Kelvin.

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From classicaudiorepair at gmail.com  Thu Aug 19 10:34:09 2010
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com (Fred Longworth)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 01:34:09 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
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So . . . I will post this a *second time*, for those who ignored my previous
post.

Here is the "something to soften hard rubber".

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=341-362&source=googleps

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

* * * * *

On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Bala Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com>wrote:

> ESL may have a replacement for this idler. They do have them for the
> classic mechanisms. I tried grit sanding the idlers but it is just a stop
> gap solution. The guy who invents something to soften hard rubber will give
> life to hundreds if not thousands of decks.
>
> Bala
>
> --- On *Thu, 8/19/10, Fred Longworth <classicaudiorepair at gmail.com>*wrote:
>
>
> From: Fred Longworth <classicaudiorepair at gmail.com>
>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
> Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 9:50 AM
>
>
> Although Nakamichis are a welcome exception, largely due to Marrs
> Communications, repairing idler tires is often the ONLY solution. A great
> many tires are no longer available, and no reasonable substitute exists. I
> might even go so far as to say that if you can't restore a great many idler
> tires, you can only service a limited variety of cassette decks.
>
> Fred
> Classic Audio Repair
> www.repairaudio.com
>
> * * * * *
>
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=ronami at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
>
> I agree. Trying to repair an idler tire doesn't make sense.
> Last time I looked they were less than a buck apiece.
>
> -- Ron
>
>
>
> --- On *Wed, 8/18/10, kannan srinivasaraghavan <kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: kannan srinivasaraghavan <kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com>
> >
>
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com<http://mc/compose?to=naktalk at naks.com>
> >
> Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 5:06 PM
>
>
> This would be a short time solution as the idler tire is so small and worn
> out tire won't last long . Get a new tire ( including eslabs ones or cheaper
> ebay ones ) and install for couple of years trouble free performance
> kannan
>
> --- On *Wed, 8/18/10, Seshadri, Srinath <
> srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com<http://mc/compose?to=srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com<http://mc/compose?to=srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
> >
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com<http://mc/compose?to=naktalk at naks.com>
> >
> Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 3:22 PM
>
>  Aaaah Great, I may not have the nerve to hit it with 1000 grit sand
> paper, but I will clean it with Q tip and alcohol. Then we see how it goes,
> then put in rejuvenator. I have some good rejuvenator too, I bought mine at
> the Harley store 10 years ago. Small tube lasts forever even if you have a
> fleet of belt driven bikes like I do.
>
> Thanks much.
>
> Srinath.
>
>
>
> *From:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com<http://mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>[mailto:
> naktalk-bounces at naks.com <http://mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>]
> *On Behalf Of *Fred Longworth
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:40 PM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
>
>
>
> If fast wind is compromised, and if the mechanism uses a TIRE, I often
> lightly sand the tire's surface with #1000 or #2000 sandpaper, and then I
> treat the surface with this wonderful chemical --
>
>
> http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=341-362&source=googleps
>
> Fred
> Classic Audio Repair
> www.repairaudio.com
>
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>
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Seshadri, Srinath <
> srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>>
> wrote:
>
> I’ve rewind more tapes in the last 3 hours than I have in the last 5 years.
> Its improved … a lot. Its now limited to tapes that are first time for it
> and generally tapes that are marginal to start with.
>
> I am cleaning it a bit when I get a chance but else I am calling his one
> fine and dandy, just useable. Since I have a dozen cassette players and 5
> are naks I think its going to sit there more than anything else. I better
> look at other decks that don’t rewind, like my ta2060 and clean em, cos
> rewind don’t use belts as you’ve explained it. I’d better figure out why its
> not rewinding.
>
> Cool.
>
> Srinath.
>
>
>
> *From:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>[mailto:
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> *On Behalf Of *Seshadri, Srinath
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:49 AM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* [naktalk] BX125 issues.
>
>
>
> Thanks for replying Ron.
>
> As a follow up question – it was trying to rewind but not doing anything
> when I bought it.
>
> Now it does rewind, it rattles and makes some squeaky noises. It played and
> FF perfectly all along.
>
> So you think I could clean the reel motor and check the idler tire and see
> what it does ?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Srinath.
>
>
>
> *From:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>[mailto:
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> *On Behalf Of *Ron
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:00 PM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
>
>
>
>
> REW does not use a belt. If it plays but does not rewind,
> the problem could be caused by a bad reel motor or
> (less likely) a bad idler tire or (even less likely) an
> electronics malfunction.
>
> -- Ron
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 8/17/10, Seshadri, Srinath <
> srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
> >
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk at naks.com>
> >
> Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 11:32 AM
>  My nak bx-125 which used to not rewind at all a few days ago – jus tused
> to try to rewind but never move the tape, started to rewind and it’s a
> little choppy and squeaky now.
> I am wondering what can be used to freshen up the belts in there. I am
> hoping to not change them, I will likely screw up big if I try that.
> Can I clean it with a Qtip ? how about alcohol ? head cleaning fluid ?
> acetone ? kerosene ? baby powder ?
> Thanks.
> Srinath.
>
>  *From:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>[mailto:
> naktalk-bounces at naks.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>]
> *On Behalf Of *Tom Brucker
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:15 AM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
>
>  Kelvin,
>  Try moving the mode cam pulley with your finger or a pencil erasure. All
> should return to normal. The cam motor has a dead spot. Deoxit may help it
> work a while longer. Many Nak owners "exercise thier collection once a
> month. The exercise keeps the belts from developing flat spots.
>
>
> tom brucker
>  On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=winniepoohlove at hotmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> My CR-7E has just developed a problem and I am looking for help in fixing
> it. A bit of background:
>
> My CR-7E was fuly serviced by Bowers & Wilkins in England 6 years ago, they
> had done a good job and everything was working to Nak specs. The only thing
> is I think they did not replace any orange caps as this was not mentioned on
> the service note and I am not sure if they routinely replaced them or not.
>
> It was working fine until yesterday. I had not switched it on for about 2
> or 3 months and yesterday decided to switch it on. I have not inserted a
> tape yet but had pressed play inadvertently and then the Play, FF, REW,
> Pause and Fader up buttons just lit up and stayed on. I cannot open the
> cassette well door to insert a tape and it would not respond to anything.
> Tried switching it off and on but the same problem persisted. Basically now
> I cannot eject open the cassette well door, the CR-7E just stays like this
> with the buttons lit up and I am unable to get it into play or FF or REW or
> anything.
>
> Is this due to orange caps or belts or a seized motor? I have not taken it
> apart or lifted the lid yet as I wanted to see what you experts advise
> first. Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Kelvin.
>
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From winniepoohlove at hotmail.com  Thu Aug 19 11:40:01 2010
From: winniepoohlove at hotmail.com (winnie pooh)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 09:40:01 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
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References: <COL122-W49FCB0131672D726ACE180D59D0@phx.gbl>,
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I agree the CR-7 is a fantastic machine. Before I give it a go this weekend, can anyone here tell me which one is the cam motor that I need to fix? Where is it inside the deck? I am assuming it is separate to the main transport? Thanks.

Kelvin.



Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:32:45 -0700
Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com
To: naktalk at naks.com

Regardless . . . the CR-7E is a terrific machine. You will get MEGA pleasure out of it. One of the finest cassette decks EVER.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com  


On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:



Yes, it's a very similar process. If you have had some 
experience, you may wish to do it yourself. 

-- Ron



--- On Wed, 8/18/10, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com>

Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
To: "naktalk" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 2:20 AM





Thank you all for the help. Will try it this weekend and see if it solves the problem.

When you rebuild a motor, is it like the electric RC car motor rebuilds? Take it apart, clean the commutator, brush, rotor, etc etc? I used to play with electric RC cars a lot when younger so if the process is the same, should not be too difficult.


Thanks once again,
Kelvin.

Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:22:14 -0700
Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com

To: naktalk at naks.com

Tom & Kelvin,

We have had excellent luck rebuilding those motors.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com


* * * * *


On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Tom Brucker <nakdoc77 at gmail.com> wrote:


Kelvin,
Try moving the mode cam pulley with your finger or a pencil erasure. All should return to normal. The cam motor has a dead spot. Deoxit may help it work a while longer. Many Nak owners "exercise thier collection once a month. The exercise keeps the belts from developing flat spots.



 
tom brucker


On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com> wrote:




Hi everyone,

My CR-7E has just developed a problem and I am looking for help in fixing it. A bit of background:

My CR-7E was fuly serviced by Bowers & Wilkins in England 6 years ago, they had done a good job and everything was working to Nak specs. The only thing is I think they did not replace any orange caps as this was not mentioned on the service note and I am not sure if they routinely replaced them or not.




It was working fine until yesterday. I had not switched it on for about 2 or 3 months and yesterday decided to switch it on. I have not inserted a tape yet but had pressed play inadvertently and then the Play, FF, REW, Pause and Fader up buttons just lit up and stayed on. I cannot open the cassette well door to insert a tape and it would not respond to anything. Tried switching it off and on but the same problem persisted. Basically now I cannot eject open the cassette well door, the CR-7E just stays like this with the buttons lit up and I am unable to get it into play or FF or REW or anything.




Is this due to orange caps or belts or a seized motor? I have not taken it apart or lifted the lid yet as I wanted to see what you experts advise first. Thanks in advance for your help.

Kelvin.






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From: westgateishere at yahoo.com (jay knickerbocker)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 02:51:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
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thank you! fred. i bookmarked it the first time for future reference.

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From: Fred Longworth <classicaudiorepair at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 1:34 AM

So . . . I will post this a second time, for those who ignored my previous post.

Here is the "something to soften hard rubber".

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=341-362&source=googleps


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From ronami at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 19 16:03:19 2010
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 07:03:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
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Fred,

MCM Electronics carry an idler tire (that they call 'Onkyo type 
tire) that fits Sankyo transports. It currently goes for $1.49 
apiece. Their part number is 32-5665. Unfortunately, they 
also charge $9 for shipping, so it makes sense to only order 
tires when some other stuff is needed. 

Replacing the tire is a simple, easy job. There are two risks, 
though. First, the tiny retaining washer for the idler tends to 
disappear (I always use your trick of placing a small rag 
behind the idler and haven't lost one yet). Second, the idler 
arm is, indeed, very fragile and should be treated with 
utmost care. 

However, once these risks are kept in mind, the job can be 
done in just a few minutes by anyone with even moderate 
technical skills.

-- Ron



--- On Wed, 8/18/10, Fred Longworth <classicaudiorepair at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Fred Longworth <classicaudiorepair at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 9:50 PM

Although Nakamichis are a welcome exception, largely due to Marrs Communications, repairing idler tires is often the ONLY solution. A great many tires are no longer available, and no reasonable substitute exists. I might even go so far as to say that if you can't restore a great many idler tires, you can only service a limited variety of cassette decks.


Fred
Classic Audio Repair
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On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:



I agree. Trying to repair an idler tire doesn't make sense. 
Last time I looked they were less than a buck apiece.

-- Ron



--- On Wed, 8/18/10, kannan srinivasaraghavan <kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com> wrote:


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Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 5:06 PM



This would be a short time solution as the idler tire is so small and worn out tire won't last long . Get a new tire ( including eslabs ones or cheaper ebay
 ones ) and install for couple of years trouble free performance
kannan

--- On Wed, 8/18/10, Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> wrote:


From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>

Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 3:22 PM







Aaaah Great, I may not have the nerve to hit it with 1000 grit sand paper, but I will clean it with Q tip and alcohol. Then we see how it goes, then put in rejuvenator. I have some good rejuvenator too, I bought mine at the Harley store 10 years ago. Small tube lasts forever even if you have a fleet of belt driven bikes like I do.

Thanks much.
Srinath.
 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Fred Longworth

Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:40 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
 
If fast wind is compromised, and if the mechanism uses a TIRE, I often lightly sand the tire's surface with #1000 or #2000 sandpaper, and then I treat the surface with this wonderful chemical --


http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=341-362&source=googleps


Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

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On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> wrote:



I’ve rewind more tapes in the last 3 hours than I have in the last 5 years. Its improved … a lot. Its now limited to tapes that are first time for it and generally tapes that are marginal to start with.

I am cleaning it a bit when I get a chance but else I am calling his one fine and dandy, just useable. Since I have a dozen cassette players and 5 are naks I think its going to sit there more than anything else. I better look at other decks that don’t rewind, like my ta2060 and clean em, cos rewind don’t use belts as you’ve explained it. I’d better figure out why its not rewinding.

Cool.
Srinath.
 


From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Seshadri, Srinath

Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:49 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
 
Thanks for replying Ron.
As a follow up question – it was trying to rewind but not doing anything when I bought it.
Now it does rewind, it rattles and makes some squeaky noises. It played and FF perfectly all along.
So you think I could clean the reel motor and check the idler tire and see what it does ?
Thanks.
Srinath.
 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ron

Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:00 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
 





REW does not use a belt. If it plays but does not rewind, 
the problem could be caused by a bad reel motor or 
(less likely) a bad idler tire or (even less likely) an 
electronics malfunction. 

-- Ron





--- On Tue, 8/17/10, Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> wrote:

From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>

Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>

Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 11:32 AM


My nak bx-125 which used to not rewind at all a few days ago – jus tused to try to rewind but never move the tape, started to rewind and it’s a little choppy and squeaky now.

I am wondering what can be used to freshen up the belts in there. I am hoping to not change them, I will likely screw up big if I try that.
Can I clean it with a Qtip ? how about alcohol ? head cleaning fluid ? acetone ? kerosene ? baby powder ?
Thanks.
Srinath.
 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Tom Brucker

Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:15 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
 

Kelvin,

Try moving the mode cam pulley with your finger or a pencil erasure. All should return to normal. The cam motor has a dead spot. Deoxit may help it work a while longer. Many Nak owners "exercise thier collection once a month. The exercise keeps the belts from developing flat spots.


 

tom brucker

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi everyone,

My CR-7E has just developed a problem and I am looking for help in fixing it. A bit of background:

My CR-7E was fuly serviced by Bowers & Wilkins in England 6 years ago, they had done a good job and everything was working to Nak specs. The only thing is I think they did not replace any orange caps as this was not mentioned on the service note and I am not sure if they routinely replaced them or not.


It was working fine until yesterday. I had not switched it on for about 2 or 3 months and yesterday decided to switch it on. I have not inserted a tape yet but had pressed play inadvertently and then the Play, FF, REW, Pause and Fader up buttons just lit up and stayed on. I cannot open the cassette well door to insert a tape and it would not respond to anything. Tried switching it off and on but the same problem persisted. Basically now I cannot eject open the cassette well door, the CR-7E
 just stays like this with the buttons lit up and I am unable to get it into play or FF or REW or anything.

Is this due to orange caps or belts or a seized motor? I have not taken it apart or lifted the lid yet as I wanted to see what you experts advise first. Thanks in advance for your help.


Kelvin.

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From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 07:37:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
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No, the control motor is not separate from the transport,
it's buried inside it. See Fig. 6.5, page 18 of the CR-7 
service manual. The control motor is part 81. 

A couple of pointers (this is all from memory): In DD 
transports such as in the CR-7, it is necessary to 
remove the capstan motor PCB to gain access  I 
seem to remember the motor is held in place by 3 
screws (one accessible from the front). Remove the 
motor assembly -- there is no need to desolder any 
contact wire. Then, desolder the two motor leads, 
(word to the wise. Mark the the motor terminal where 
the red wire went). Remove the cam. Remove 2 
screws and you have the motor in your hand. 

Now, straighten the tabs that are bent into the motor 
rear plate notches and carefully pull the rear plate off. 
Make sure the brushes are not caught by the commutator 
washers. If you need to dismount the brushes (usually not 
necessary), make absolutely sure you reassemble 
correctly  Making a small sketch before can save a lot 
of time after. 

Good luck,

-- Ron




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From: winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
To: "naktalk" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 5:40 AM





I agree the CR-7 is a fantastic machine. Before I give it a go this weekend, can anyone here tell me which one is the cam motor that I need to fix? Where is it inside the deck? I am assuming it is separate to the main transport? Thanks.

Kelvin.



Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:32:45 -0700
Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com
To: naktalk at naks.com

Regardless . . . the CR-7E is a terrific machine. You will get MEGA pleasure out of it. One of the finest cassette decks EVER.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com  


On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:



Yes, it's a very similar process. If you have had some 
experience, you may wish to do it yourself. 

-- Ron



--- On Wed, 8/18/10, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com>

Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
To: "naktalk" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 2:20 AM





Thank you all for the help. Will try it this weekend and see if it solves the problem.

When you rebuild a motor, is it like the electric RC car motor rebuilds? Take it apart, clean the commutator, brush, rotor, etc etc? I used to play with electric RC cars a lot when younger so if the process is the same, should not be too difficult.


Thanks once again,
Kelvin.

Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:22:14 -0700
Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com

To: naktalk at naks.com

Tom & Kelvin,

We have had excellent luck rebuilding those motors.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com


* * * * *


On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Tom Brucker <nakdoc77 at gmail.com> wrote:


Kelvin,
Try moving the mode cam pulley with your finger or a pencil erasure. All should return to normal. The cam motor has a dead spot. Deoxit may help it work a while longer. Many Nak owners "exercise thier collection once a month. The exercise keeps the belts from developing flat spots.



 
tom brucker


On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com> wrote:




Hi everyone,

My CR-7E has just developed a problem and I am looking for help in fixing it. A bit of background:

My CR-7E was fuly serviced by Bowers & Wilkins in England 6 years ago, they had done a good job and everything was working to Nak specs. The only thing is I think they did not replace any orange caps as this was not mentioned on the service note and I am not sure if they routinely replaced them or not.




It was working fine until yesterday. I had not switched it on for about 2 or 3 months and yesterday decided to switch it on. I have not inserted a tape yet but had pressed play inadvertently and then the Play, FF, REW, Pause and Fader up buttons just lit up and stayed on. I cannot open the cassette well door to insert a tape and it would not respond to anything. Tried switching it off and on but the same problem persisted. Basically now I cannot eject open the cassette well door, the CR-7E just stays like this with the buttons lit up and I am unable to get it into play or FF or REW or anything.




Is this due to orange caps or belts or a seized motor? I have not taken it apart or lifted the lid yet as I wanted to see what you experts advise first. Thanks in advance for your help.

Kelvin.






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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:50:09 -0400
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I opened my bx125 looking for the idler tire. Sadly I had no idea and I fitted it back and gave up.

On a side note, its rewinding better and better. Maybe I’ll put my rubber rejuvenating stuff on a q tip and hit the outsides of the belts I can see.

Cool.

Srinath.

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 10:03 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX125 issues.

 

Fred,

MCM Electronics carry an idler tire (that they call 'Onkyo type 
tire) that fits Sankyo transports. It currently goes for $1.49 
apiece. Their part number is 32-5665. Unfortunately, they 
also charge $9 for shipping, so it makes sense to only order 
tires when some other stuff is needed. 

Replacing the tire is a simple, easy job. There are two risks, 
though. First, the tiny retaining washer for the idler tends to 
disappear (I always use your trick of placing a small rag 
behind the idler and haven't lost one yet). Second, the idler 
arm is, indeed, very fragile and should be treated with 
utmost care. 

However, once these risks are kept in mind, the job can be 
done in just a few minutes by anyone with even moderate 
technical skills.

-- Ron



--- On Wed, 8/18/10, Fred Longworth <classicaudiorepair at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Fred Longworth <classicaudiorepair at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 9:50 PM

Although Nakamichis are a welcome exception, largely due to Marrs Communications, repairing idler tires is often the ONLY solution. A great many tires are no longer available, and no reasonable substitute exists. I might even go so far as to say that if you can't restore a great many idler tires, you can only service a limited variety of cassette decks.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

* * * * * 

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:


I agree. Trying to repair an idler tire doesn't make sense. 
Last time I looked they were less than a buck apiece.

-- Ron



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From: kannan srinivasaraghavan <kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com>


Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>

Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 5:06 PM

 

This would be a short time solution as the idler tire is so small and worn out tire won't last long . Get a new tire ( including eslabs ones or cheaper ebay ones ) and install for couple of years trouble free performance

kannan

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	From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
	Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
	To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
	Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 3:22 PM

	Aaaah Great, I may not have the nerve to hit it with 1000 grit sand paper, but I will clean it with Q tip and alcohol. Then we see how it goes, then put in rejuvenator. I have some good rejuvenator too, I bought mine at the Harley store 10 years ago. Small tube lasts forever even if you have a fleet of belt driven bikes like I do.

	Thanks much.

	Srinath. 

	  

	From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Fred Longworth
	Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:40 PM
	To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
	Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX125 issues.

	  

	If fast wind is compromised, and if the mechanism uses a TIRE, I often lightly sand the tire's surface with #1000 or #2000 sandpaper, and then I treat the surface with this wonderful chemical --
	
	http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=341-362&source=googleps
	
	Fred
	Classic Audio Repair
	www.repairaudio.com <http://www.repairaudio.com/> 
	
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	On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com <http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> > wrote:

	I’ve rewind more tapes in the last 3 hours than I have in the last 5 years. Its improved … a lot. Its now limited to tapes that are first time for it and generally tapes that are marginal to start with.

	I am cleaning it a bit when I get a chance but else I am calling his one fine and dandy, just useable. Since I have a dozen cassette players and 5 are naks I think its going to sit there more than anything else. I better look at other decks that don’t rewind, like my ta2060 and clean em, cos rewind don’t use belts as you’ve explained it. I’d better figure out why its not rewinding.

	Cool. 

	Srinath. 

	  

	From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com <http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>  [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com <http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com> ] On Behalf Of Seshadri, Srinath
	Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:49 AM
	To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
	Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.

	  

	Thanks for replying Ron. 

	As a follow up question – it was trying to rewind but not doing anything when I bought it. 

	Now it does rewind, it rattles and makes some squeaky noises. It played and FF perfectly all along. 

	So you think I could clean the reel motor and check the idler tire and see what it does ? 

	Thanks. 

	Srinath. 

	  

	From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com <http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>  [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com <http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com> ] On Behalf Of Ron
	Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:00 PM
	To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
	Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem

	  


REW does not use a belt. If it plays but does not rewind, 
the problem could be caused by a bad reel motor or 
(less likely) a bad idler tire or (even less likely) an 
electronics malfunction. 

-- Ron




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From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com <http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> >
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com <http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk at naks.com> >
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 11:32 AM 

My nak bx-125 which used to not rewind at all a few days ago – jus tused to try to rewind but never move the tape, started to rewind and it’s a little choppy and squeaky now.

I am wondering what can be used to freshen up the belts in there. I am hoping to not change them, I will likely screw up big if I try that.

Can I clean it with a Qtip ? how about alcohol ? head cleaning fluid ? acetone ? kerosene ? baby powder ?

Thanks.

Srinath.

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com <http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>  [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com <http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com> ] On Behalf Of Tom Brucker
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:15 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem

 

Kelvin,

Try moving the mode cam pulley with your finger or a pencil erasure. All should return to normal. The cam motor has a dead spot. Deoxit may help it work a while longer. Many Nak owners "exercise thier collection once a month. The exercise keeps the belts from developing flat spots.

 

tom brucker

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=winniepoohlove at hotmail.com> > wrote:

Hi everyone,

My CR-7E has just developed a problem and I am looking for help in fixing it. A bit of background:

My CR-7E was fuly serviced by Bowers & Wilkins in England 6 years ago, they had done a good job and everything was working to Nak specs. The only thing is I think they did not replace any orange caps as this was not mentioned on the service note and I am not sure if they routinely replaced them or not.

It was working fine until yesterday. I had not switched it on for about 2 or 3 months and yesterday decided to switch it on. I have not inserted a tape yet but had pressed play inadvertently and then the Play, FF, REW, Pause and Fader up buttons just lit up and stayed on. I cannot open the cassette well door to insert a tape and it would not respond to anything. Tried switching it off and on but the same problem persisted. Basically now I cannot eject open the cassette well door, the CR-7E just stays like this with the buttons lit up and I am unable to get it into play or FF or REW or anything.

Is this due to orange caps or belts or a seized motor? I have not taken it apart or lifted the lid yet as I wanted to see what you experts advise first. Thanks in advance for your help.

Kelvin.


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From: westgateishere at yahoo.com (jay knickerbocker)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:26:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
In-Reply-To: <D66E98639BB1B941BC090114BA8BE64801557E99@ex2k.bankofamerica.com>
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don't give up yet! here are directions with photo to guide you-

http://www.eslabs.com/idler.htm

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From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 7:50 AM




 
 







I opened my bx125 looking for the idler tire. Sadly I had no
idea and I fitted it back and gave up. 

On a side note, its rewinding better and better. Maybe I’ll put
my rubber rejuvenating stuff on a q tip and hit the outsides of the belts I can
see. 

Cool. 

Srinath. 

  


 


   




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From kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 19 21:28:26 2010
From: kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com (kannan srinivasaraghavan)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:28:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
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You have to look behind the cassette well back cover ( Black) from the front of the machine -remove the cassette wel cover first - there are two small screws on top part of this back cover and that can be removed to take out this cover to see the idler!
if you remove the top cover you are not seeing the idler
good luck and do not spray such liquids on the belts or for that matter any liquids in to that part - you may find the machine will stop working or face new problems!

Kannan
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From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 10:50 AM








I opened my bx125 looking for the idler tire. Sadly I had no idea and I fitted it back and gave up.
On a side note, its rewinding better and better. Maybe I’ll put my rubber rejuvenating stuff on a q tip and hit the outsides of the belts I can see.
Cool.
Srinath.
 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 10:03 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
 




Fred,

MCM Electronics carry an idler tire (that they call 'Onkyo type 
tire) that fits Sankyo transports. It currently goes for $1.49 
apiece. Their part number is 32-5665. Unfortunately, they 
also charge $9 for shipping, so it makes sense to only order 
tires when some other stuff is needed. 

Replacing the tire is a simple, easy job. There are two risks, 
though. First, the tiny retaining washer for the idler tends to 
disappear (I always use your trick of placing a small rag 
behind the idler and haven't lost one yet). Second, the idler 
arm is, indeed, very fragile and should be treated with 
utmost care. 

However, once these risks are kept in mind, the job can be 
done in just a few minutes by anyone with even moderate 
technical skills.

-- Ron



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From: Fred Longworth <classicaudiorepair at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 9:50 PM

Although Nakamichis are a welcome exception, largely due to Marrs Communications, repairing idler tires is often the ONLY solution. A great many tires are no longer available, and no reasonable substitute exists. I might even go so far as to say that if you can't restore a great many idler tires, you can only service a limited variety of cassette decks.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

* * * * * 

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:





I agree. Trying to repair an idler tire doesn't make sense. 
Last time I looked they were less than a buck apiece.

-- Ron



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From: kannan srinivasaraghavan <kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com>


Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 5:06 PM


 






This would be a short time solution as the idler tire is so small and worn out tire won't last long . Get a new tire ( including eslabs ones or cheaper ebay ones ) and install for couple of years trouble free performance

kannan

--- On Wed, 8/18/10, Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> wrote:


From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 3:22 PM


Aaaah Great, I may not have the nerve to hit it with 1000 grit sand paper, but I will clean it with Q tip and alcohol. Then we see how it goes, then put in rejuvenator. I have some good rejuvenator too, I bought mine at the Harley store 10 years ago. Small tube lasts forever even if you have a fleet of belt driven bikes like I do.
Thanks much.
Srinath. 
  

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Fred Longworth
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:40 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
  
If fast wind is compromised, and if the mechanism uses a TIRE, I often lightly sand the tire's surface with #1000 or #2000 sandpaper, and then I treat the surface with this wonderful chemical --

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=341-362&source=googleps

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

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On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> wrote:


I’ve rewind more tapes in the last 3 hours than I have in the last 5 years. Its improved … a lot. Its now limited to tapes that are first time for it and generally tapes that are marginal to start with.
I am cleaning it a bit when I get a chance but else I am calling his one fine and dandy, just useable. Since I have a dozen cassette players and 5 are naks I think its going to sit there more than anything else. I better look at other decks that don’t rewind, like my ta2060 and clean em, cos rewind don’t use belts as you’ve explained it. I’d better figure out why its not rewinding.
Cool. 
Srinath. 
  


From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Seshadri, Srinath
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:49 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
  
Thanks for replying Ron. 
As a follow up question – it was trying to rewind but not doing anything when I bought it. 
Now it does rewind, it rattles and makes some squeaky noises. It played and FF perfectly all along. 
So you think I could clean the reel motor and check the idler tire and see what it does ? 
Thanks. 
Srinath. 
  

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:00 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
  





REW does not use a belt. If it plays but does not rewind, 
the problem could be caused by a bad reel motor or 
(less likely) a bad idler tire or (even less likely) an 
electronics malfunction. 

-- Ron




--- On Tue, 8/17/10, Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> wrote: 

From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 11:32 AM 



My nak bx-125 which used to not rewind at all a few days ago – jus tused to try to rewind but never move the tape, started to rewind and it’s a little choppy and squeaky now.

I am wondering what can be used to freshen up the belts in there. I am hoping to not change them, I will likely screw up big if I try that.

Can I clean it with a Qtip ? how about alcohol ? head cleaning fluid ? acetone ? kerosene ? baby powder ?

Thanks.

Srinath.

 


From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Tom Brucker
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:15 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem

 


Kelvin,


Try moving the mode cam pulley with your finger or a pencil erasure. All should return to normal. The cam motor has a dead spot. Deoxit may help it work a while longer. Many Nak owners "exercise thier collection once a month. The exercise keeps the belts from developing flat spots.


 

tom brucker


On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi everyone,

My CR-7E has just developed a problem and I am looking for help in fixing it. A bit of background:

My CR-7E was fuly serviced by Bowers & Wilkins in England 6 years ago, they had done a good job and everything was working to Nak specs. The only thing is I think they did not replace any orange caps as this was not mentioned on the service note and I am not sure if they routinely replaced them or not.

It was working fine until yesterday. I had not switched it on for about 2 or 3 months and yesterday decided to switch it on. I have not inserted a tape yet but had pressed play inadvertently and then the Play, FF, REW, Pause and Fader up buttons just lit up and stayed on. I cannot open the cassette well door to insert a tape and it would not respond to anything. Tried switching it off and on but the same problem persisted. Basically now I cannot eject open the cassette well door, the CR-7E just stays like this with the buttons lit up and I am unable to get it into play or FF or REW or anything.

Is this due to orange caps or belts or a seized motor? I have not taken it apart or lifted the lid yet as I wanted to see what you experts advise first. Thanks in advance for your help.

Kelvin.


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From classicaudiorepair at gmail.com  Thu Aug 19 21:52:15 2010
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com (Fred Longworth)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:52:15 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
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I have several pieces of 32-5665 in stock. I'm not sure it works as well as
I'd like, but it does work. The original idler tires tend to get a concave
surface, and so, no longer grip the reel table rim sufficiently. Sometimes
as well, they actually crack all the way through.

Yup, those idler arms can be easily broken.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

* * * * *

On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Fred,
>
> MCM Electronics carry an idler tire (that they call 'Onkyo type
> tire) that fits Sankyo transports. It currently goes for $1.49
> apiece. Their part number is 32-5665. Unfortunately, they
> also charge $9 for shipping, so it makes sense to only order
> tires when some other stuff is needed.
>
> Replacing the tire is a simple, easy job. There are two risks,
> though. First, the tiny retaining washer for the idler tends to
> disappear (I always use your trick of placing a small rag
> behind the idler and haven't lost one yet). Second, the idler
> arm is, indeed, very fragile and should be treated with
> utmost care.
>
> However, once these risks are kept in mind, the job can be
> done in just a few minutes by anyone with even moderate
> technical skills.
>
> -- Ron
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Wed, 8/18/10, Fred Longworth <classicaudiorepair at gmail.com>*wrote:
>
>
> From: Fred Longworth <classicaudiorepair at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
> Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 9:50 PM
>
>
> Although Nakamichis are a welcome exception, largely due to Marrs
> Communications, repairing idler tires is often the ONLY solution. A great
> many tires are no longer available, and no reasonable substitute exists. I
> might even go so far as to say that if you can't restore a great many idler
> tires, you can only service a limited variety of cassette decks.
>
> Fred
> Classic Audio Repair
> www.repairaudio.com
>
> * * * * *
>
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=ronami at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
>
> I agree. Trying to repair an idler tire doesn't make sense.
> Last time I looked they were less than a buck apiece.
>
> -- Ron
>
>
>
> --- On *Wed, 8/18/10, kannan srinivasaraghavan <kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: kannan srinivasaraghavan <kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com>
> >
>
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com<http://mc/compose?to=naktalk at naks.com>
> >
> Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 5:06 PM
>
>
> This would be a short time solution as the idler tire is so small and worn
> out tire won't last long . Get a new tire ( including eslabs ones or cheaper
> ebay ones ) and install for couple of years trouble free performance
> kannan
>
> --- On *Wed, 8/18/10, Seshadri, Srinath <
> srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com<http://mc/compose?to=srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com<http://mc/compose?to=srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
> >
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com<http://mc/compose?to=naktalk at naks.com>
> >
> Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 3:22 PM
>
>  Aaaah Great, I may not have the nerve to hit it with 1000 grit sand
> paper, but I will clean it with Q tip and alcohol. Then we see how it goes,
> then put in rejuvenator. I have some good rejuvenator too, I bought mine at
> the Harley store 10 years ago. Small tube lasts forever even if you have a
> fleet of belt driven bikes like I do.
>
> Thanks much.
>
> Srinath.
>
>
>
> *From:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com<http://mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>[mailto:
> naktalk-bounces at naks.com <http://mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>]
> *On Behalf Of *Fred Longworth
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:40 PM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
>
>
>
> If fast wind is compromised, and if the mechanism uses a TIRE, I often
> lightly sand the tire's surface with #1000 or #2000 sandpaper, and then I
> treat the surface with this wonderful chemical --
>
>
> http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=341-362&source=googleps
>
> Fred
> Classic Audio Repair
> www.repairaudio.com
>
> * * * * *
>
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Seshadri, Srinath <
> srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>>
> wrote:
>
> I’ve rewind more tapes in the last 3 hours than I have in the last 5 years.
> Its improved … a lot. Its now limited to tapes that are first time for it
> and generally tapes that are marginal to start with.
>
> I am cleaning it a bit when I get a chance but else I am calling his one
> fine and dandy, just useable. Since I have a dozen cassette players and 5
> are naks I think its going to sit there more than anything else. I better
> look at other decks that don’t rewind, like my ta2060 and clean em, cos
> rewind don’t use belts as you’ve explained it. I’d better figure out why its
> not rewinding.
>
> Cool.
>
> Srinath.
>
>
>
> *From:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>[mailto:
> naktalk-bounces at naks.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>]
> *On Behalf Of *Seshadri, Srinath
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:49 AM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* [naktalk] BX125 issues.
>
>
>
> Thanks for replying Ron.
>
> As a follow up question – it was trying to rewind but not doing anything
> when I bought it.
>
> Now it does rewind, it rattles and makes some squeaky noises. It played and
> FF perfectly all along.
>
> So you think I could clean the reel motor and check the idler tire and see
> what it does ?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Srinath.
>
>
>
> *From:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>[mailto:
> naktalk-bounces at naks.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>]
> *On Behalf Of *Ron
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:00 PM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
>
>
>
>
> REW does not use a belt. If it plays but does not rewind,
> the problem could be caused by a bad reel motor or
> (less likely) a bad idler tire or (even less likely) an
> electronics malfunction.
>
> -- Ron
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 8/17/10, Seshadri, Srinath <
> srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
> >
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk at naks.com>
> >
> Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 11:32 AM
>  My nak bx-125 which used to not rewind at all a few days ago – jus tused
> to try to rewind but never move the tape, started to rewind and it’s a
> little choppy and squeaky now.
> I am wondering what can be used to freshen up the belts in there. I am
> hoping to not change them, I will likely screw up big if I try that.
> Can I clean it with a Qtip ? how about alcohol ? head cleaning fluid ?
> acetone ? kerosene ? baby powder ?
> Thanks.
> Srinath.
>
>  *From:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>[mailto:
> naktalk-bounces at naks.com<http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>]
> *On Behalf Of *Tom Brucker
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:15 AM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
>
>  Kelvin,
>  Try moving the mode cam pulley with your finger or a pencil erasure. All
> should return to normal. The cam motor has a dead spot. Deoxit may help it
> work a while longer. Many Nak owners "exercise thier collection once a
> month. The exercise keeps the belts from developing flat spots.
>
>
> tom brucker
>  On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=winniepoohlove at hotmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> My CR-7E has just developed a problem and I am looking for help in fixing
> it. A bit of background:
>
> My CR-7E was fuly serviced by Bowers & Wilkins in England 6 years ago, they
> had done a good job and everything was working to Nak specs. The only thing
> is I think they did not replace any orange caps as this was not mentioned on
> the service note and I am not sure if they routinely replaced them or not.
>
> It was working fine until yesterday. I had not switched it on for about 2
> or 3 months and yesterday decided to switch it on. I have not inserted a
> tape yet but had pressed play inadvertently and then the Play, FF, REW,
> Pause and Fader up buttons just lit up and stayed on. I cannot open the
> cassette well door to insert a tape and it would not respond to anything.
> Tried switching it off and on but the same problem persisted. Basically now
> I cannot eject open the cassette well door, the CR-7E just stays like this
> with the buttons lit up and I am unable to get it into play or FF or REW or
> anything.
>
> Is this due to orange caps or belts or a seized motor? I have not taken it
> apart or lifted the lid yet as I wanted to see what you experts advise
> first. Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Kelvin.
>
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 19 23:08:53 2010
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 14:08:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
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Jay, no offense but if he couldn't find the idler, maybe its 
a good thing he gave up  :-).  Barging into the transport 
with no technical skills whatsoever can do harm that 
would be difficult (not to mention, expensive) to fix. 

BTW, putting rubber rejuvenator on the outside of belts 
probably won't do any harm, but it won't do any good, 
either. See what I mean?

-- Ron



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From: jay knickerbocker <westgateishere at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 3:26 PM

don't give up yet! here are directions with photo to guide you-

http://www.eslabs.com/idler.htm

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From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 7:50 AM




 
 







I opened my bx125 looking for the idler tire. Sadly I had no
idea and I fitted it back and gave up. 

On a side note, its rewinding better and better. Maybe I’ll put
my rubber rejuvenating stuff on a q tip and hit the outsides of the belts I can
see. 

Cool. 

Srinath. 

  


 


   




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From srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com  Thu Aug 19 22:29:29 2010
From: srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com (Seshadri, Srinath)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 16:29:29 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
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Wonderful. I may open it and just check and clean it, its gotten much better since the last time I posted even. Literally its getting better with every rewind.

That rejuvenation compound should do the trick.

Cool.

Srinath.

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of jay knickerbocker
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 3:26 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.

 

don't give up yet! here are directions with photo to guide you-

http://www.eslabs.com/idler.htm

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From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 7:50 AM

I opened my bx125 looking for the idler tire. Sadly I had no idea and I fitted it back and gave up.

On a side note, its rewinding better and better. Maybe I’ll put my rubber rejuvenating stuff on a q tip and hit the outsides of the belts I can see.

Cool.

Srinath.

 

 

	

 

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From srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com  Thu Aug 19 23:07:12 2010
From: srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com (Seshadri, Srinath)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:07:12 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
In-Reply-To: <764894.54057.qm@web33305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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No spray – only put a tiny amount with a Q tip. Maybe just dry Q tip to clean it and look @ it in close detail. I am now more thinking in terms of my ta 2060 onkyo deck.

What nak model is it. I’ve heard its some nak model, not sure what. A hk 391 also I have to figure out, its not opening the door.

Thanks.

Srinath.

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of kannan srinivasaraghavan
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 3:28 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.

 

You have to look behind the cassette well back cover ( Black) from the front of the machine -remove the cassette wel cover first - there are two small screws on top part of this back cover and that can be removed to take out this cover to see the idler!

if you remove the top cover you are not seeing the idler

good luck and do not spray such liquids on the belts or for that matter any liquids in to that part - you may find the machine will stop working or face new problems!


Kannan
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	From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
	Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
	To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
	Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 10:50 AM

	I opened my bx125 looking for the idler tire. Sadly I had no idea and I fitted it back and gave up.

	On a side note, its rewinding better and better. Maybe I’ll put my rubber rejuvenating stuff on a q tip and hit the outsides of the belts I can see.

	Cool.

Srinath.

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 10:03 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX125 issues.

 

Fred,

MCM Electronics carry an idler tire (that they call 'Onkyo type 
tire) that fits Sankyo transports. It currently goes for $1.49 
apiece. Their part number is 32-5665. Unfortunately, they 
also charge $9 for shipping, so it makes sense to only order 
tires when some other stuff is needed. 

Replacing the tire is a simple, easy job. There are two risks, 
though. First, the tiny retaining washer for the idler tends to 
disappear (I always use your trick of placing a small rag 
behind the idler and haven't lost one yet). Second, the idler 
arm is, indeed, very fragile and should be treated with 
utmost care. 

However, once these risks are kept in mind, the job can be 
done in just a few minutes by anyone with even moderate 
technical skills.

-- Ron



--- On Wed, 8/18/10, Fred Longworth <classicaudiorepair at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Fred Longworth <classicaudiorepair at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 9:50 PM

Although Nakamichis are a welcome exception, largely due to Marrs Communications, repairing idler tires is often the ONLY solution. A great many tires are no longer available, and no reasonable substitute exists. I might even go so far as to say that if you can't restore a great many idler tires, you can only service a limited variety of cassette decks.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com <http://www.repairaudio.com/> 

* * * * * 

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:


I agree. Trying to repair an idler tire doesn't make sense. 
Last time I looked they were less than a buck apiece.

-- Ron



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From: kannan srinivasaraghavan <kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com>


Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>

Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 5:06 PM

 

This would be a short time solution as the idler tire is so small and worn out tire won't last long . Get a new tire ( including eslabs ones or cheaper ebay ones ) and install for couple of years trouble free performance

kannan

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	From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
	Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
	To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
	Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 3:22 PM

Aaaah Great, I may not have the nerve to hit it with 1000 grit sand paper, but I will clean it with Q tip and alcohol. Then we see how it goes, then put in rejuvenator. I have some good rejuvenator too, I bought mine at the Harley store 10 years ago. Small tube lasts forever even if you have a fleet of belt driven bikes like I do.

Thanks much.

Srinath. 

  

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Fred Longworth
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:40 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX125 issues.

  

If fast wind is compromised, and if the mechanism uses a TIRE, I often lightly sand the tire's surface with #1000 or #2000 sandpaper, and then I treat the surface with this wonderful chemical --

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=341-362&source=googleps

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com <http://www.repairaudio.com/> 

* * * * * 

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I’ve rewind more tapes in the last 3 hours than I have in the last 5 years. Its improved … a lot. Its now limited to tapes that are first time for it and generally tapes that are marginal to start with.

I am cleaning it a bit when I get a chance but else I am calling his one fine and dandy, just useable. Since I have a dozen cassette players and 5 are naks I think its going to sit there more than anything else. I better look at other decks that don’t rewind, like my ta2060 and clean em, cos rewind don’t use belts as you’ve explained it. I’d better figure out why its not rewinding.

Cool. 

Srinath. 

  

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com <http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>  [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com <http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com> ] On Behalf Of Seshadri, Srinath
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:49 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.

  

Thanks for replying Ron. 

As a follow up question – it was trying to rewind but not doing anything when I bought it. 

Now it does rewind, it rattles and makes some squeaky noises. It played and FF perfectly all along. 

So you think I could clean the reel motor and check the idler tire and see what it does ? 

Thanks. 

Srinath. 

  

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com <http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>  [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com <http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com> ] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:00 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem

  


REW does not use a belt. If it plays but does not rewind, 
the problem could be caused by a bad reel motor or 
(less likely) a bad idler tire or (even less likely) an 
electronics malfunction. 

-- Ron




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Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com <http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk at naks.com> >
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 11:32 AM 

My nak bx-125 which used to not rewind at all a few days ago – jus tused to try to rewind but never move the tape, started to rewind and it’s a little choppy and squeaky now.

I am wondering what can be used to freshen up the belts in there. I am hoping to not change them, I will likely screw up big if I try that.

Can I clean it with a Qtip ? how about alcohol ? head cleaning fluid ? acetone ? kerosene ? baby powder ?

Thanks.

Srinath.

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com <http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com>  [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com <http://us.mc333.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naktalk-bounces at naks.com> ] On Behalf Of Tom Brucker
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:15 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem

 

Kelvin,

Try moving the mode cam pulley with your finger or a pencil erasure. All should return to normal. The cam motor has a dead spot. Deoxit may help it work a while longer. Many Nak owners "exercise thier collection once a month. The exercise keeps the belts from developing flat spots.

 

tom brucker

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=winniepoohlove at hotmail.com> > wrote:

Hi everyone,

My CR-7E has just developed a problem and I am looking for help in fixing it. A bit of background:

My CR-7E was fuly serviced by Bowers & Wilkins in England 6 years ago, they had done a good job and everything was working to Nak specs. The only thing is I think they did not replace any orange caps as this was not mentioned on the service note and I am not sure if they routinely replaced them or not.

It was working fine until yesterday. I had not switched it on for about 2 or 3 months and yesterday decided to switch it on. I have not inserted a tape yet but had pressed play inadvertently and then the Play, FF, REW, Pause and Fader up buttons just lit up and stayed on. I cannot open the cassette well door to insert a tape and it would not respond to anything. Tried switching it off and on but the same problem persisted. Basically now I cannot eject open the cassette well door, the CR-7E just stays like this with the buttons lit up and I am unable to get it into play or FF or REW or anything.

Is this due to orange caps or belts or a seized motor? I have not taken it apart or lifted the lid yet as I wanted to see what you experts advise first. Thanks in advance for your help.

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From westgateishere at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 20 03:33:31 2010
From: westgateishere at yahoo.com (jay knickerbocker)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 18:33:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
In-Reply-To: <225909.88669.qm@web50407.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <735503.35895.qm@web65409.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

it was just about 15 months ago i tried changing my first mr-1 i-tire. if not for the same directions, i would have never known to remove the well plate to find it. (dealing with those little screws is the hardest part of the job!)
and i have zero tech skills myself.

i do hope he tries it again.

--- On Thu, 8/19/10, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 2:08 PM


Jay, no offense but if he couldn't find the idler, maybe its 
a good thing he gave up  :-).  Barging into the transport 
with no technical skills whatsoever can do harm that 
would be difficult (not to mention, expensive) to fix. 

BTW, putting rubber rejuvenator on the outside of belts 
probably won't do any harm, but it won't do any good, 
either. See what I mean?

-- Ron



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From: jay knickerbocker <westgateishere at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 3:26 PM

don't give up yet! here are directions with photo to guide you-

http://www.eslabs.com/idler.htm

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From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 7:50 AM




 
 







I opened my bx125 looking for the idler tire. Sadly I had no
idea and I fitted it back and gave up. 

On a side note, its rewinding better and better. Maybe I’ll put
my rubber rejuvenating stuff on a q tip and hit the outsides of the belts I can
see. 

Cool. 

Srinath. 

  


 


   




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From srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com  Fri Aug 20 03:48:45 2010
From: srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com (Seshadri, Srinath)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 21:48:45 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
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I have this compound that soaks into rubber and rejuvenates it. It used to be a Harley product for Harley belts. It soaks in quite well and gets it nice and grippy.

I am going to look at the belt … but I know I’d get expertise here so I posted before getting into it.

Cool.

Srinath.

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 5:09 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.

 


Jay, no offense but if he couldn't find the idler, maybe its 
a good thing he gave up  :-).  Barging into the transport 
with no technical skills whatsoever can do harm that 
would be difficult (not to mention, expensive) to fix. 

BTW, putting rubber rejuvenator on the outside of belts 
probably won't do any harm, but it won't do any good, 
either. See what I mean?

-- Ron



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From: jay knickerbocker <westgateishere at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 3:26 PM

don't give up yet! here are directions with photo to guide you-

http://www.eslabs.com/idler.htm

--- On Thu, 8/19/10, Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> wrote:


From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 7:50 AM

I opened my bx125 looking for the idler tire. Sadly I had no idea and I fitted it back and gave up.

On a side note, its rewinding better and better. Maybe I’ll put my rubber rejuvenating stuff on a q tip and hit the outsides of the belts I can see.

Cool.

Srinath.

 

 

	

 

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From jerry.mcphail at gmail.com  Fri Aug 20 05:09:36 2010
From: jerry.mcphail at gmail.com (Jerry McPhail)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:09:36 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Hep needed with 700
Message-ID: <AANLkTikZw+=WTGsQ1ot=eMBnSjMJqFjdXdDRicm3kZSP@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Guys,

Okay, I was stupid, I admit it -- got too busy with work and blew off
cleaning my namakichi 700 ... so now it ate a tape and the tape door is
jammed solid. So how do i get the tape out without busting the deck, and
have i screwed up the deck? (and what was worse is I was listening to  a
test mix of an album  i had just had recorded. so I have to go back to the
studio and admit I was a numb nuts and ruined the tape.)

Oh well at least I didn't get myself stuck in the tape deck!
-- 
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McPhail Music
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From jberger at well.com  Fri Aug 20 07:31:24 2010
From: jberger at well.com (John Berger)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:31:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] A protocol request for non-digest readers
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Message-ID: <1120276566.2302.1282282284907.JavaMail.root@zimbra.well.com>

For those of you who do not read Naktalk as the digest:

Please trim out excess text when you reply to someone's message; it makes reading the digest version much more tolerable.

For example, the most recent digest message included nearly 80 copies of someone's full-screen, automatically applied disclaimer signature (automatic, because he's sending out from work email).  Eighty copies!  And that was for only six or seven actual messages, because of replies that included the message, and replies to the message, and replies to the replies, and every one included the signature paragraphs.  

You may not see it, because it's off the bottom of your screen, but it's a pain with the digest version when they all pile up.

Thanks,
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From r1seals at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 20 15:48:09 2010
From: r1seals at yahoo.com (Russ Seals)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 06:48:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
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I have to agree with Ron here but if there were a youtube video of the process that would help 
 or if he knows of someone who has done this kind of thing and could show him what you should do and what not to do like when putting the small washer on to brace the arm from underneath with a toothpick or the sorts. 
  it really is not that hard but if your not up to the challenge don't do it. 

--- On Thu, 8/19/10, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 4:08 PM


Jay, no offense but if he couldn't find the idler, maybe its 
a good thing he gave up  :-).  Barging into the transport 
with no technical skills whatsoever can do harm that 
would be difficult (not to mention, expensive) to fix. 

BTW, putting rubber rejuvenator on the outside of belts 
probably won't do any harm, but it won't do any good, 
either. See what I mean?

-- Ron



--- On Thu, 8/19/10, jay knickerbocker <westgateishere at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: jay knickerbocker <westgateishere at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 3:26 PM

don't give up yet! here are directions with photo to guide you-

http://www.eslabs.com/idler.htm

--- On Thu, 8/19/10, Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> wrote:

From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 7:50 AM




 
 







I opened my bx125 looking for the idler tire. Sadly I had no
idea and I fitted it back and gave up. 

On a side note, its rewinding better and better. Maybe I’ll put
my rubber rejuvenating stuff on a q tip and hit the outsides of the belts I can
see. 

Cool. 

Srinath. 

  


 


   




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From classicaudiorepair at gmail.com  Fri Aug 20 18:41:59 2010
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com (Fred Longworth)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 09:41:59 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Hep needed with 700
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If the cycling mechanism is jammed, take off the cover, reach inside (don't
shock yourself!) and complete the cycling operation that the machine cannot
complete on its own due to a bad belt or defective control motor.

If the set ate a tape such that tape is wound around the capstan, defeating
the eject function, then see if you can get the cover off the door. If you
can, use an Xacto knife to cut away the portion of the plastic cassette
housing that surrounds the "ball of tape" that is wound around the capstan.
Then use that same blade to gradually trim away the layers of tape until the
capstan is free. When the capstan is free, the eject function can be done.

Next, pick up the set and turn if face down and shake it -- to get all the
tiny bits of plastic and tape debris to come out.

* * * * *

Again, if a cycle couldn't finish, that's due to a belt or motor. If the set
ate a tape, that's usually due to a failure of the takeup reel, and that
failure is normally caused by a defective reel-drive-idler tire.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
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On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Jerry McPhail <jerry.mcphail at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
> Okay, I was stupid, I admit it -- got too busy with work and blew off
> cleaning my namakichi 700 ... so now it ate a tape and the tape door is
> jammed solid. So how do i get the tape out without busting the deck, and
> have i screwed up the deck? (and what was worse is I was listening to  a
> test mix of an album  i had just had recorded. so I have to go back to the
> studio and admit I was a numb nuts and ruined the tape.)
>
> Oh well at least I didn't get myself stuck in the tape deck!
> --
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 20 20:48:45 2010
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:48:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
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Fred, over time I have used probably 30-40 of those 
32-5665 tires (ever since they cost 57 cents apiece). 
All worked as well as the original. Of course, the tire 
has to be seated correctly in/on the idler, which can 
be a bitch to do. Once seated correctly, the edge is 
not concave -- it lies flat on the hub, as it should.

-- Ron
 


--- On Thu, 8/19/10, Fred Longworth <classicaudiorepair at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Fred Longworth <classicaudiorepair at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 3:52 PM

I have several pieces of 32-5665 in stock. I'm not sure it works as well as I'd like, but it does work. The original idler tires tend to get a concave surface, and so, no longer grip the reel table rim sufficiently. Sometimes as well, they actually crack all the way through.


Yup, those idler arms can be easily broken.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

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On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:


Fred,

MCM Electronics carry an idler tire (that they call 'Onkyo type 
tire) that fits Sankyo transports. It currently goes for $1.49 
apiece. Their part number is 32-5665. Unfortunately, they 
also charge $9 for shipping, so it makes sense to only order 

tires when some other stuff is needed. 

Replacing the tire is a simple, easy job. There are two risks, 
though. First, the tiny retaining washer for the idler tends to 
disappear (I always use your trick of placing a small rag 

behind the idler and haven't lost one yet). Second, the idler 
arm is, indeed, very fragile and should be treated with 
utmost care. 

However, once these risks are kept in mind, the job can be 
done in just a few minutes by anyone with even moderate 

technical skills.

-- Ron



--- On Wed, 8/18/10, Fred
 Longworth <classicaudiorepair at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Fred Longworth <classicaudiorepair at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX125 issues.

To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 9:50 PM


Although Nakamichis are a welcome exception, largely due to Marrs Communications, repairing idler tires is often the ONLY solution. A great many tires are no longer available, and no reasonable substitute exists. I might even go so far as to say that if you can't restore a great many idler tires, you can only service a limited variety of cassette decks.



Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

* * * * * 

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:





I agree. Trying to repair an idler tire doesn't make sense. 
Last time I looked they were less than a buck apiece.

-- Ron



--- On Wed, 8/18/10, kannan srinivasaraghavan <kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com> wrote:



From: kannan srinivasaraghavan <kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com>


Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 5:06 PM





This would be a short time solution as the idler tire is so small and worn out tire won't last long . Get a new tire ( including eslabs ones or cheaper ebay
 ones ) and install for couple of years trouble free performance
kannan

--- On Wed, 8/18/10, Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> wrote:



From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>


Subject: RE: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 3:22 PM








Aaaah Great, I may not have the nerve to hit it with 1000 grit sand paper, but I will clean it with Q tip and alcohol. Then we see how it goes, then put in rejuvenator. I have some good rejuvenator too, I bought mine at the Harley store 10 years ago. Small tube lasts forever even if you have a fleet of belt driven bikes like I do.


Thanks much.
Srinath.
 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Fred Longworth


Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:40 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
 
If fast wind is compromised, and if the mechanism uses a TIRE, I often lightly sand the tire's surface with #1000 or #2000 sandpaper, and then I treat the surface with this wonderful chemical --



http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=341-362&source=googleps



Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

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On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> wrote:




I’ve rewind more tapes in the last 3 hours than I have in the last 5 years. Its improved … a lot. Its now limited to tapes that are first time for it and generally tapes that are marginal to start with.


I am cleaning it a bit when I get a chance but else I am calling his one fine and dandy, just useable. Since I have a dozen cassette players and 5 are naks I think its going to sit there more than anything else. I better look at other decks that don’t rewind, like my ta2060 and clean em, cos rewind don’t use belts as you’ve explained it. I’d better figure out why its not rewinding.


Cool.
Srinath.
 


From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Seshadri, Srinath


Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:49 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: [naktalk] BX125 issues.
 
Thanks for replying Ron.
As a follow up question – it was trying to rewind but not doing anything when I bought it.
Now it does rewind, it rattles and makes some squeaky noises. It played and FF perfectly all along.
So you think I could clean the reel motor and check the idler tire and see what it does ?
Thanks.
Srinath.
 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ron


Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:00 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
 





REW does not use a belt. If it plays but does not rewind, 
the problem could be caused by a bad reel motor or 
(less likely) a bad idler tire or (even less likely) an 
electronics malfunction. 

-- Ron






--- On Tue, 8/17/10, Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com> wrote:

From: Seshadri, Srinath <srinath.seshadri at bankofamerica.com>


Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>


Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 11:32 AM


My nak bx-125 which used to not rewind at all a few days ago – jus tused to try to rewind but never move the tape, started to rewind and it’s a little choppy and squeaky now.


I am wondering what can be used to freshen up the belts in there. I am hoping to not change them, I will likely screw up big if I try that.
Can I clean it with a Qtip ? how about alcohol ? head cleaning fluid ? acetone ? kerosene ? baby powder ?
Thanks.
Srinath.
 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Tom Brucker


Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:15 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
 

Kelvin,

Try moving the mode cam pulley with your finger or a pencil erasure. All should return to normal. The cam motor has a dead spot. Deoxit may help it work a while longer. Many Nak owners "exercise thier collection once a month. The exercise keeps the belts from developing flat spots.



 

tom brucker

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi everyone,

My CR-7E has just developed a problem and I am looking for help in fixing it. A bit of background:

My CR-7E was fuly serviced by Bowers & Wilkins in England 6 years ago, they had done a good job and everything was working to Nak specs. The only thing is I think they did not replace any orange caps as this was not mentioned on the service note and I am not sure if they routinely replaced them or not.



It was working fine until yesterday. I had not switched it on for about 2 or 3 months and yesterday decided to switch it on. I have not inserted a tape yet but had pressed play inadvertently and then the Play, FF, REW, Pause and Fader up buttons just lit up and stayed on. I cannot open the cassette well door to insert a tape and it would not respond to anything. Tried switching it off and on but the same problem persisted. Basically now I cannot eject open the cassette well door, the CR-7E
 just stays like this with the buttons lit up and I am unable to get it into play or FF or REW or anything.

Is this due to orange caps or belts or a seized motor? I have not taken it apart or lifted the lid yet as I wanted to see what you experts advise first. Thanks in advance for your help.



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From davidt124 at internode.on.net  Sat Aug 21 02:27:58 2010
From: davidt124 at internode.on.net (David Thompson)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 10:27:58 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 90, Issue 20
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I totally agree, its a considerable pain wading through heaps of previous
messages. Just select the relevant message first and then do a reply as I
have done here.

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> reading the digest version much more tolerable.
> 
> For example, the most recent digest message included nearly 80 copies of
> someone's full-screen, automatically applied disclaimer signature (automatic,
> because he's sending out from work email).  Eighty copies!  And that was for
> only six or seven actual messages, because of replies that included the
> message, and replies to the message, and replies to the replies, and every one
> included the signature paragraphs.
> 
> You may not see it, because it's off the bottom of your screen, but it's a
> pain with the digest version when they all pile up.
> 
> Thanks,
> John




From jerry.mcphail at gmail.com  Sun Aug 22 05:21:20 2010
From: jerry.mcphail at gmail.com (Jerry McPhail)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 22:21:20 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Hep needed with 700
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=_+QjgaCmLu2tioK6fSR4m0-9VOSfwYv+GOMg2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikZw+=WTGsQ1ot=eMBnSjMJqFjdXdDRicm3kZSP@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=_+QjgaCmLu2tioK6fSR4m0-9VOSfwYv+GOMg2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=v+_x6K_mNCKybU8dcPb39-926ff_qBpi1NQmb@mail.gmail.com>

Hey thanx for the help Fred,

Bummer of it is the 700 ate the tape. Any thoughts on how to open the deck
up and get to the tape. it has that wierd side-openning door and its jammed
to solid to open the door even a little. Oh and keep in mind Im not an
electronics guy, I just play tape decks I dont fix 'em.

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Fred Longworth <
classicaudiorepair at gmail.com> wrote:

> If the cycling mechanism is jammed, take off the cover, reach inside (don't
> shock yourself!) and complete the cycling operation that the machine cannot
> complete on its own due to a bad belt or defective control motor.
>
> If the set ate a tape such that tape is wound around the capstan, defeating
> the eject function, then see if you can get the cover off the door. If you
> can, use an Xacto knife to cut away the portion of the plastic cassette
> housing that surrounds the "ball of tape" that is wound around the capstan.
> Then use that same blade to gradually trim away the layers of tape until the
> capstan is free. When the capstan is free, the eject function can be done.
>
> Next, pick up the set and turn if face down and shake it -- to get all the
> tiny bits of plastic and tape debris to come out.
>
> * * * * *
>
> Again, if a cycle couldn't finish, that's due to a belt or motor. If the
> set ate a tape, that's usually due to a failure of the takeup reel, and that
> failure is normally caused by a defective reel-drive-idler tire.
>
> Fred
> Classic Audio Repair
> www.repairaudio.com
>
> * * * * *
>
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Jerry McPhail <jerry.mcphail at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> Okay, I was stupid, I admit it -- got too busy with work and blew off
>> cleaning my namakichi 700 ... so now it ate a tape and the tape door is
>> jammed solid. So how do i get the tape out without busting the deck, and
>> have i screwed up the deck? (and what was worse is I was listening to  a
>> test mix of an album  i had just had recorded. so I have to go back to the
>> studio and admit I was a numb nuts and ruined the tape.)
>>
>> Oh well at least I didn't get myself stuck in the tape deck!
>> --
>> Jerry McPhail
>> McPhail Music
>>
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From nickericbull at gmail.com  Sun Aug 22 08:26:20 2010
From: nickericbull at gmail.com (Nick Bull)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:26:20 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Dragon Flywheel pressure clip
Message-ID: <AANLkTim5sBkryEXCPJfKf8vSYnqUgAgfCytAiV9j5zoO@mail.gmail.com>

Good day guys! I have a small problem, well big if I can't find a clip, I
serviced and changed the belts on my Dragon and the pressure clip for the
flywheel broke. So is there a place that any of you know that I can get one,
or do any of you have a spare?

Thanks for any help!

-Nick
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From classicaudiorepair at gmail.com  Sun Aug 22 20:05:06 2010
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com (Fred Longworth)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 11:05:06 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Hep needed with 700
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References: <AANLkTikZw+=WTGsQ1ot=eMBnSjMJqFjdXdDRicm3kZSP@mail.gmail.com>
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Hmm.

Usually what I do is pull the cover plate and grab the rear-end of the
capstan flywheel. Remember that the *front end* of the capstan is what the
tape is wrapped tightly around. I turn the flywheel with my hand back and
forth while depressing the EJECT button. This tends to slightly loosen the
bound-up tape wound around the capstan. Often, after doing this for a couple
of minutes, I can get the door to open just a little -- say, 1/4 to 1/2
inch. Then, with it open just a little, I can finesse the cover off the
front of the pop-out carriage.

At this point, you have to make a decision. Sometimes to get the cover off,
you have to break some mounting or locating tabs. You have to say to
yourself, "It's either this, or something more radical."

Once the cover is off, follow the procedure I explained earlier to get the
tape out. NOTE: I've found that a nice, sharp Xacto knife is almost
indispensable in getting the tape out. You really do have to carve the
plastic to gain access to the "ball of tape." Then you have to carve away
the ball of tape. Only then will the tape come out.

Good luck this this. Keep me posted.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

* * * * *

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Jerry McPhail <jerry.mcphail at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hey thanx for the help Fred,
>
> Bummer of it is the 700 ate the tape. Any thoughts on how to open the deck
> up and get to the tape. it has that wierd side-openning door and its jammed
> to solid to open the door even a little. Oh and keep in mind Im not an
> electronics guy, I just play tape decks I dont fix 'em.
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Fred Longworth <
> classicaudiorepair at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If the cycling mechanism is jammed, take off the cover, reach inside
>> (don't shock yourself!) and complete the cycling operation that the machine
>> cannot complete on its own due to a bad belt or defective control motor.
>>
>> If the set ate a tape such that tape is wound around the capstan,
>> defeating the eject function, then see if you can get the cover off the
>> door. If you can, use an Xacto knife to cut away the portion of the plastic
>> cassette housing that surrounds the "ball of tape" that is wound around the
>> capstan. Then use that same blade to gradually trim away the layers of tape
>> until the capstan is free. When the capstan is free, the eject function can
>> be done.
>>
>> Next, pick up the set and turn if face down and shake it -- to get all the
>> tiny bits of plastic and tape debris to come out.
>>
>> * * * * *
>>
>> Again, if a cycle couldn't finish, that's due to a belt or motor. If the
>> set ate a tape, that's usually due to a failure of the takeup reel, and that
>> failure is normally caused by a defective reel-drive-idler tire.
>>
>> Fred
>> Classic Audio Repair
>> www.repairaudio.com
>>
>> * * * * *
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Jerry McPhail <jerry.mcphail at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Guys,
>>>
>>> Okay, I was stupid, I admit it -- got too busy with work and blew off
>>> cleaning my namakichi 700 ... so now it ate a tape and the tape door is
>>> jammed solid. So how do i get the tape out without busting the deck, and
>>> have i screwed up the deck? (and what was worse is I was listening to  a
>>> test mix of an album  i had just had recorded. so I have to go back to the
>>> studio and admit I was a numb nuts and ruined the tape.)
>>>
>>> Oh well at least I didn't get myself stuck in the tape deck!
>>> --
>>> Jerry McPhail
>>> McPhail Music
>>>
>>>
>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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>>>
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>>
>>
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>
>
>
> --
> Jerry McPhail
> McPhail & Dunn Photography
>
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From winniepoohlove at hotmail.com  Mon Aug 23 02:47:28 2010
From: winniepoohlove at hotmail.com (winnie pooh)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:47:28 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
In-Reply-To: <430032.26301.qm@web50405.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <COL122-W164A016DC11392772DF8A8D59E0@phx.gbl>,
	<430032.26301.qm@web50405.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <COL122-W6104A6A8D6504BB2E8F124D5820@phx.gbl>


Hi all,

Had a go at fixing the CR-7E yesterday. The problem is as you all said, the cam mode motor was at fault. I nudged the gears and all was well again. Full function was restored. I then looked at it and to be honest, it seemed as if I have to remove the entire transport to get the cam motor out? I don't think I can get it out with just removing the PCB on the top of the transport.

Since it is working again, I decided to wait and ask for further help and instructions on how to remove the cam motor before doing the rebuild. Is there an easy way to get it out without having to remove the entire transport? Hope so.

Thank you.
Kelvin.
 		 	   		  
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 23 16:20:55 2010
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 07:20:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
In-Reply-To: <COL122-W6104A6A8D6504BB2E8F124D5820@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <545412.43085.qm@web50407.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


Actually, it is easier if you remove the transport. With 
the transport in-situ, access to the rear of the transport 
is rather limited. 

I know I have done it without removing the transport, 
several times (I  am the lazy sort) but can't give you a 
blow by blow list of steps. I tend to feel technically 
competent. I just start  to remove stuff and stop when 
I have the motor im my hand. 

-- Ron



--- On Sun, 8/22/10, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
To: "naktalk" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 8:47 PM




Hi all,

Had a go at fixing the CR-7E yesterday. The problem is as you all said, the cam mode motor was at fault. I nudged the gears and all was well again. Full function was restored. I then looked at it and to be honest, it seemed as if I have to remove the entire transport to get the cam motor out? I don't think I can get it out with just removing the PCB on the top of the transport.

Since it is working again, I decided to wait and ask for further help and instructions on how to remove the cam motor before doing the rebuild. Is there an easy way to get it out without having to remove the entire transport? Hope so.

Thank you.
Kelvin.
 		 	   		  

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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 23 19:45:45 2010
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:45:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
In-Reply-To: <545412.43085.qm@web50407.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <66490.62353.qm@web30202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Presumably, you don't put everything back and realize there is still a washer left on the table! 

That's a really sinking feeling that tells me the sweet end just eluded me. 

Cheers!

--- On Mon, 8/23/10, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Monday, August 23, 2010, 10:20 PM


Actually, it is easier if you remove the transport. With 
the transport in-situ, access to the rear of the transport 
is rather limited. 

I know I have done it without removing the transport, 
several times (I  am the lazy sort) but can't give you a 
blow by blow list of steps. I tend to feel technically 
competent. I just start  to remove stuff and stop when 
I have the motor im my hand. 

-- Ron



--- On Sun, 8/22/10, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
To: "naktalk" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 8:47 PM




Hi all,

Had a go at fixing the CR-7E yesterday. The problem is as you all said, the cam mode motor was at fault. I nudged the gears and all was well again. Full function was restored. I then looked at it and to be honest, it seemed as if I have to remove the entire transport to get the cam motor out? I don't think I can get it out with just removing the PCB on the top of the transport.

Since it is working again, I decided to wait and ask for further help and instructions on how to remove the cam motor before doing the rebuild. Is there an easy way to get it out without having to remove the entire transport? Hope so.

Thank you.
Kelvin.
 		 	   		  

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From ronami at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 24 15:51:50 2010
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 06:51:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
In-Reply-To: <66490.62353.qm@web30202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <931463.47580.qm@web50401.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


Doesn't happen to me. At least, not very often.

I took an aircraft engine mechanic course a long time ago, 
when engines still had pistons in them. In one class of the 
course, each trainee was given a carburetor and told to 
take it apart, down to the last screw, nut and bolt. Then, 
we were told to put it all back together again, without 
benefit of the exploded view drawing. 

All told, there were several hundred parts. Anyone that 
had even a single washer left, was allowed to study the 
drawing, then told to put the part where it belonged. This 
was repeated until no parts were left. This was in the air 
force and cheating (like, furtively throwing parts away) 
could cost 21 days in the stockade. Most of us did it quite 
a few times.

That was excellent  training... So, no, it doesn't happen to 
me. At least, not very often.

-- Ron



 

--- On Mon, 8/23/10, Bala Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Bala Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Monday, August 23, 2010, 1:45 PM

Presumably, you don't put everything back and realize there is still a washer left on the table! 

That's a really sinking feeling that tells me the sweet end just eluded me. 

Cheers!

--- On Mon, 8/23/10, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Monday, August 23, 2010, 10:20 PM


Actually, it is easier if you remove the transport. With 
the transport in-situ, access to the rear of the transport 
is rather limited. 

I know I
 have done it without removing the transport, 
several times (I  am the lazy sort) but can't give you a 
blow by blow list of steps. I tend to feel technically 
competent. I just start  to remove stuff and stop when 
I have the motor im my hand. 

-- Ron



--- On Sun, 8/22/10, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
To: "naktalk" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 8:47 PM




Hi all,

Had a go at fixing the CR-7E yesterday. The problem is as you all said, the cam mode motor was at fault. I nudged the gears and all was well again. Full function was restored. I then looked at it and to be honest, it seemed as if I have to remove the entire transport to get the cam motor out? I don't think I can get it out with just removing the PCB on the top of the transport.

Since it is working again, I decided to wait and ask for further help and instructions on how to remove the cam motor before doing the rebuild. Is there an easy way to get it out without having to remove the entire transport? Hope so.

Thank you.
Kelvin.
 		 	   		  

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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 24 18:44:26 2010
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 09:44:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
In-Reply-To: <931463.47580.qm@web50401.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <976020.79096.qm@web30207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Comparing piston aircraft engines, a Sankyo transport should be a piece of cake. Training today is so different with virtual reality simulations, and very detailed SOP procedures. People are spoilt !

--- On Tue, 8/24/10, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 9:51 PM


Doesn't happen to me. At least, not very often.

I took an aircraft engine mechanic course a long time ago, 
when engines still had pistons in them. In one class of the 
course, each trainee was given a carburetor and told to 
take it apart, down to the last screw, nut and bolt. Then, 
we were told to put it all back together again, without 
benefit of the exploded view drawing. 

All told, there were several hundred parts. Anyone that 
had even a single washer left, was allowed to study the 
drawing, then told to put the part where it belonged. This 
was repeated until no parts were left. This was in the air 
force and cheating (like, furtively throwing parts away) 
could cost 21 days in the stockade. Most of us did it quite 
a few times.

That was excellent  training... So, no, it doesn't happen to
 
me. At least, not very often.

-- Ron



 

--- On Mon, 8/23/10, Bala Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Bala Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Monday, August 23, 2010, 1:45 PM

Presumably, you don't put everything back and realize there is still a washer left on the table! 

That's a really sinking feeling that tells me the sweet end just eluded me. 

Cheers!

--- On Mon, 8/23/10, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Monday, August 23, 2010, 10:20 PM


Actually, it is easier if you remove the transport. With 
the transport in-situ, access to the rear of the transport 
is rather limited. 

I know I
 have done it without removing the transport, 
several times (I  am the lazy sort) but can't give you a 
blow by blow list of steps. I tend to feel technically 
competent. I just start  to remove stuff and stop when 
I have the motor im my hand. 

-- Ron



--- On Sun, 8/22/10, winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: winnie pooh <winniepoohlove at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-7E has a problem
To: "naktalk" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 8:47 PM




Hi all,

Had a go at fixing the CR-7E yesterday. The problem is as you all said, the cam mode motor was at fault. I nudged the gears and all was well again. Full function was restored. I then looked at it and to be honest, it seemed as if I have to remove the entire transport to get the cam motor out? I don't think I can get it out with just removing the PCB on the top of the transport.

Since it is working again, I decided to wait and ask for further help and instructions on how to remove the cam motor before doing the rebuild. Is there an easy way to get it out without having to remove the entire transport? Hope so.

Thank you.
Kelvin.
 		 	   		  

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From jerry.mcphail at gmail.com  Wed Aug 25 01:06:32 2010
From: jerry.mcphail at gmail.com (Jerry McPhail)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:06:32 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Hep needed with 700
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Okay thanks for the addl info but like i said Im not an electronics guy, and
opening up the deck is sort of intimidating. Any tips or directions on how
to open up, disassemble and assemble a Nak 700 specifically?

On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Fred Longworth <
classicaudiorepair at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hmm.
>
> Usually what I do is pull the cover plate and grab the rear-end of the
> capstan flywheel. Remember that the *front end* of the capstan is what the
> tape is wrapped tightly around. I turn the flywheel with my hand back and
> forth while depressing the EJECT button. This tends to slightly loosen the
> bound-up tape wound around the capstan. Often, after doing this for a couple
> of minutes, I can get the door to open just a little -- say, 1/4 to 1/2
> inch. Then, with it open just a little, I can finesse the cover off the
> front of the pop-out carriage.
>
> At this point, you have to make a decision. Sometimes to get the cover off,
> you have to break some mounting or locating tabs. You have to say to
> yourself, "It's either this, or something more radical."
>
> Once the cover is off, follow the procedure I explained earlier to get the
> tape out. NOTE: I've found that a nice, sharp Xacto knife is almost
> indispensable in getting the tape out. You really do have to carve the
> plastic to gain access to the "ball of tape." Then you have to carve away
> the ball of tape. Only then will the tape come out.
>
> Good luck this this. Keep me posted.
>
>
> Fred
> Classic Audio Repair
> www.repairaudio.com
>
> * * * * *
>
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Jerry McPhail <jerry.mcphail at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hey thanx for the help Fred,
>>
>> Bummer of it is the 700 ate the tape. Any thoughts on how to open the deck
>> up and get to the tape. it has that wierd side-openning door and its jammed
>> to solid to open the door even a little. Oh and keep in mind Im not an
>> electronics guy, I just play tape decks I dont fix 'em.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Fred Longworth <
>> classicaudiorepair at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If the cycling mechanism is jammed, take off the cover, reach inside
>>> (don't shock yourself!) and complete the cycling operation that the machine
>>> cannot complete on its own due to a bad belt or defective control motor.
>>>
>>> If the set ate a tape such that tape is wound around the capstan,
>>> defeating the eject function, then see if you can get the cover off the
>>> door. If you can, use an Xacto knife to cut away the portion of the plastic
>>> cassette housing that surrounds the "ball of tape" that is wound around the
>>> capstan. Then use that same blade to gradually trim away the layers of tape
>>> until the capstan is free. When the capstan is free, the eject function can
>>> be done.
>>>
>>> Next, pick up the set and turn if face down and shake it -- to get all
>>> the tiny bits of plastic and tape debris to come out.
>>>
>>> * * * * *
>>>
>>> Again, if a cycle couldn't finish, that's due to a belt or motor. If the
>>> set ate a tape, that's usually due to a failure of the takeup reel, and that
>>> failure is normally caused by a defective reel-drive-idler tire.
>>>
>>> Fred
>>> Classic Audio Repair
>>> www.repairaudio.com
>>>
>>> * * * * *
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Jerry McPhail <jerry.mcphail at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>
>>>> Okay, I was stupid, I admit it -- got too busy with work and blew off
>>>> cleaning my namakichi 700 ... so now it ate a tape and the tape door is
>>>> jammed solid. So how do i get the tape out without busting the deck, and
>>>> have i screwed up the deck? (and what was worse is I was listening to  a
>>>> test mix of an album  i had just had recorded. so I have to go back to the
>>>> studio and admit I was a numb nuts and ruined the tape.)
>>>>
>>>> Oh well at least I didn't get myself stuck in the tape deck!
>>>> --
>>>> Jerry McPhail
>>>> McPhail Music
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>>          Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
>>>>
>>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>>                        Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
>>>> Maintain your account here:
>>>> http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>>>>
>>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>          Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
>>>
>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>                        Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
>>> Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>>>
>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jerry McPhail
>> McPhail & Dunn Photography
>>
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>          Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>                        Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
>> Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>
>
>
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>                        Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
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From classicaudiorepair at gmail.com  Thu Aug 26 07:42:19 2010
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com (Fred Longworth)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:42:19 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Hep needed with 700
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Since you are a novice, I suggest you find someone in your area who is
comfortable with pulling apart audio gear. Get them to work with you on your
machine. If you're quick, you'll absorb a great deal of "how to" knowledge
in only a few hours.

This IS a hands-on, show-me kind of thing, like teaching someone how to tie
shoelaces.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

* * * * *

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Jerry McPhail <jerry.mcphail at gmail.com>wrote:

> Okay thanks for the addl info but like i said Im not an electronics guy,
> and opening up the deck is sort of intimidating. Any tips or directions on
> how to open up, disassemble and assemble a Nak 700 specifically?
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Fred Longworth <
> classicaudiorepair at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hmm.
>>
>> Usually what I do is pull the cover plate and grab the rear-end of the
>> capstan flywheel. Remember that the *front end* of the capstan is what
>> the tape is wrapped tightly around. I turn the flywheel with my hand back
>> and forth while depressing the EJECT button. This tends to slightly loosen
>> the bound-up tape wound around the capstan. Often, after doing this for a
>> couple of minutes, I can get the door to open just a little -- say, 1/4 to
>> 1/2 inch. Then, with it open just a little, I can finesse the cover off the
>> front of the pop-out carriage.
>>
>> At this point, you have to make a decision. Sometimes to get the cover
>> off, you have to break some mounting or locating tabs. You have to say to
>> yourself, "It's either this, or something more radical."
>>
>> Once the cover is off, follow the procedure I explained earlier to get the
>> tape out. NOTE: I've found that a nice, sharp Xacto knife is almost
>> indispensable in getting the tape out. You really do have to carve the
>> plastic to gain access to the "ball of tape." Then you have to carve away
>> the ball of tape. Only then will the tape come out.
>>
>> Good luck this this. Keep me posted.
>>
>>
>> Fred
>> Classic Audio Repair
>> www.repairaudio.com
>>
>> * * * * *
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Jerry McPhail <jerry.mcphail at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hey thanx for the help Fred,
>>>
>>> Bummer of it is the 700 ate the tape. Any thoughts on how to open the
>>> deck up and get to the tape. it has that wierd side-openning door and its
>>> jammed to solid to open the door even a little. Oh and keep in mind Im not
>>> an electronics guy, I just play tape decks I dont fix 'em.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Fred Longworth <
>>> classicaudiorepair at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If the cycling mechanism is jammed, take off the cover, reach inside
>>>> (don't shock yourself!) and complete the cycling operation that the machine
>>>> cannot complete on its own due to a bad belt or defective control motor.
>>>>
>>>> If the set ate a tape such that tape is wound around the capstan,
>>>> defeating the eject function, then see if you can get the cover off the
>>>> door. If you can, use an Xacto knife to cut away the portion of the plastic
>>>> cassette housing that surrounds the "ball of tape" that is wound around the
>>>> capstan. Then use that same blade to gradually trim away the layers of tape
>>>> until the capstan is free. When the capstan is free, the eject function can
>>>> be done.
>>>>
>>>> Next, pick up the set and turn if face down and shake it -- to get all
>>>> the tiny bits of plastic and tape debris to come out.
>>>>
>>>> * * * * *
>>>>
>>>> Again, if a cycle couldn't finish, that's due to a belt or motor. If the
>>>> set ate a tape, that's usually due to a failure of the takeup reel, and that
>>>> failure is normally caused by a defective reel-drive-idler tire.
>>>>
>>>> Fred
>>>> Classic Audio Repair
>>>> www.repairaudio.com
>>>>
>>>> * * * * *
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Jerry McPhail <jerry.mcphail at gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay, I was stupid, I admit it -- got too busy with work and blew off
>>>>> cleaning my namakichi 700 ... so now it ate a tape and the tape door is
>>>>> jammed solid. So how do i get the tape out without busting the deck, and
>>>>> have i screwed up the deck? (and what was worse is I was listening to  a
>>>>> test mix of an album  i had just had recorded. so I have to go back to the
>>>>> studio and admit I was a numb nuts and ruined the tape.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh well at least I didn't get myself stuck in the tape deck!
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jerry McPhail
>>>>> McPhail Music
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>>>          Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
>>>>>
>>>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>>>                        Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
>>>>> Maintain your account here:
>>>>> http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>>>>>
>>>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>>          Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
>>>>
>>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>>                        Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
>>>> Maintain your account here:
>>>> http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>>>>
>>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jerry McPhail
>>> McPhail & Dunn Photography
>>>
>>>
>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>          Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
>>>
>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>                        Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
>>> Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>>>
>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>
>>
>>
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>          Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>                        Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
>> Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Jerry McPhail
> McPhail & Dunn Photography
>
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>          Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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From: fred at marrscom.com (Fred Marrs)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 22:12:39 -0500
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From: jerry.mcphail at gmail.com (Jerry McPhail)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 04:43:02 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Hep needed with 700
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Ok, well thanks anyway, though the last piece of advice isnt really too
helpful or practical in my situation. I guess I just was assuming someone
herw would have a disassembly diagram or something like that that would
help.

I think i'll probably just sell the deck off as is, I have two other Naks
that work ok.

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Fred Longworth <
classicaudiorepair at gmail.com> wrote:

> Since you are a novice, I suggest you find someone in your area who is
> comfortable with pulling apart audio gear. Get them to work with you on your
> machine. If you're quick, you'll absorb a great deal of "how to" knowledge
> in only a few hours.
>
> This IS a hands-on, show-me kind of thing, like teaching someone how to tie
> shoelaces.
>
>
> Fred
> Classic Audio Repair
> www.repairaudio.com
>
> * * * * *
>
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Jerry McPhail <jerry.mcphail at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Okay thanks for the addl info but like i said Im not an electronics guy,
>> and opening up the deck is sort of intimidating. Any tips or directions on
>> how to open up, disassemble and assemble a Nak 700 specifically?
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Fred Longworth <
>> classicaudiorepair at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm.
>>>
>>> Usually what I do is pull the cover plate and grab the rear-end of the
>>> capstan flywheel. Remember that the *front end* of the capstan is what
>>> the tape is wrapped tightly around. I turn the flywheel with my hand back
>>> and forth while depressing the EJECT button. This tends to slightly loosen
>>> the bound-up tape wound around the capstan. Often, after doing this for a
>>> couple of minutes, I can get the door to open just a little -- say, 1/4 to
>>> 1/2 inch. Then, with it open just a little, I can finesse the cover off the
>>> front of the pop-out carriage.
>>>
>>> At this point, you have to make a decision. Sometimes to get the cover
>>> off, you have to break some mounting or locating tabs. You have to say to
>>> yourself, "It's either this, or something more radical."
>>>
>>> Once the cover is off, follow the procedure I explained earlier to get
>>> the tape out. NOTE: I've found that a nice, sharp Xacto knife is almost
>>> indispensable in getting the tape out. You really do have to carve the
>>> plastic to gain access to the "ball of tape." Then you have to carve away
>>> the ball of tape. Only then will the tape come out.
>>>
>>> Good luck this this. Keep me posted.
>>>
>>>
>>> Fred
>>> Classic Audio Repair
>>> www.repairaudio.com
>>>
>>> * * * * *
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Jerry McPhail <jerry.mcphail at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey thanx for the help Fred,
>>>>
>>>> Bummer of it is the 700 ate the tape. Any thoughts on how to open the
>>>> deck up and get to the tape. it has that wierd side-openning door and its
>>>> jammed to solid to open the door even a little. Oh and keep in mind Im not
>>>> an electronics guy, I just play tape decks I dont fix 'em.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Fred Longworth <
>>>> classicaudiorepair at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If the cycling mechanism is jammed, take off the cover, reach inside
>>>>> (don't shock yourself!) and complete the cycling operation that the machine
>>>>> cannot complete on its own due to a bad belt or defective control motor.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the set ate a tape such that tape is wound around the capstan,
>>>>> defeating the eject function, then see if you can get the cover off the
>>>>> door. If you can, use an Xacto knife to cut away the portion of the plastic
>>>>> cassette housing that surrounds the "ball of tape" that is wound around the
>>>>> capstan. Then use that same blade to gradually trim away the layers of tape
>>>>> until the capstan is free. When the capstan is free, the eject function can
>>>>> be done.
>>>>>
>>>>> Next, pick up the set and turn if face down and shake it -- to get all
>>>>> the tiny bits of plastic and tape debris to come out.
>>>>>
>>>>> * * * * *
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, if a cycle couldn't finish, that's due to a belt or motor. If
>>>>> the set ate a tape, that's usually due to a failure of the takeup reel, and
>>>>> that failure is normally caused by a defective reel-drive-idler tire.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fred
>>>>> Classic Audio Repair
>>>>> www.repairaudio.com
>>>>>
>>>>> * * * * *
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Jerry McPhail <
>>>>> jerry.mcphail at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay, I was stupid, I admit it -- got too busy with work and blew off
>>>>>> cleaning my namakichi 700 ... so now it ate a tape and the tape door is
>>>>>> jammed solid. So how do i get the tape out without busting the deck, and
>>>>>> have i screwed up the deck? (and what was worse is I was listening to  a
>>>>>> test mix of an album  i had just had recorded. so I have to go back to the
>>>>>> studio and admit I was a numb nuts and ruined the tape.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh well at least I didn't get myself stuck in the tape deck!
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jerry McPhail
>>>>>> McPhail Music
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>>>>          Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>>>>                        Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
>>>>>> Maintain your account here:
>>>>>> http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>>>          Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
>>>>>
>>>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>>>                        Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
>>>>> Maintain your account here:
>>>>> http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>>>>>
>>>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jerry McPhail
>>>> McPhail & Dunn Photography
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>>          Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
>>>>
>>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>>                        Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
>>>> Maintain your account here:
>>>> http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>>>>
>>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>          Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
>>>
>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>                        Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
>>> Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>>>
>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jerry McPhail
>> McPhail & Dunn Photography
>>
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>          Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>                        Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
>> Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>
>
>
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>          Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>                        Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
> Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>



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From girolamous at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 30 03:12:17 2010
From: girolamous at yahoo.com (j. helffrich)
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 18:12:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Problems with tape flip mechanism on RX-202
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Hi Nakkers,
  I am working on my old RX-202, that used to work fine until I left it unused 
for about a year and a half.  Then it had the idler wheel issue, and a problem 
with not being able to complete the flip cycle on the reverse.  I replaced the 
idler wheel and got a new belt for the flip motor, which appears to be the one 
at the bottom of the deck.  Boy that was a tricky one to replace, but I think I 
got it in, and the shuttle mechanism pushed the tape out about 1/3 of the way 
and then stopped and tried to reverse.  It pulled the drawer back in but then 
stopped before completely getting home and reversed again.  It then went into 
several more cycles of this before I shut it off.  I figured it must be that I 
got the phasing of the pot that senses shuttle position wrong, so I manually 
backed the shuttle all the way in and set the pot for all the way in, then 
re-meshed the gears.  Now it doesn't want to go anywhere, and I can't even 
manually move the shuttle with the power off.  Any good tips here for getting 
the shuttle working again?

Thanks,

 Jerry Helffrich
4 Naks, 1 HK, 1 Aiwa, 1 Yamaha plus assorted R2R's



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From luis at peromarta.org  Mon Aug 30 12:54:09 2010
From: luis at peromarta.org (Luis Peromarta Regert)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 12:54:09 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Problems with tape flip mechanism on RX-202
In-Reply-To: <240301.71920.qm@web113507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <201008111017.o7BA8aqS019855@zxe.naks.com>
	<240301.71920.qm@web113507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E294499C-E1E6-4890-A48F-BF15B25244C7@peromarta.org>

Try this:

http://bit.ly/bCMfqN 

rgds, LP.

El 30/08/2010, a las 03:12, j. helffrich escribió:

> Hi Nakkers,
>  I am working on my old RX-202, that used to work fine until I left it unused 
> for about a year and a half.  Then it had the idler wheel issue, and a problem 
> with not being able to complete the flip cycle on the reverse.  I replaced the 
> idler wheel and got a new belt for the flip motor, which appears to be the one 
> at the bottom of the deck.  Boy that was a tricky one to replace, but I think I 
> got it in, and the shuttle mechanism pushed the tape out about 1/3 of the way 
> and then stopped and tried to reverse.  It pulled the drawer back in but then 
> stopped before completely getting home and reversed again.  It then went into 
> several more cycles of this before I shut it off.  I figured it must be that I 
> got the phasing of the pot that senses shuttle position wrong, so I manually 
> backed the shuttle all the way in and set the pot for all the way in, then 
> re-meshed the gears.  Now it doesn't want to go anywhere, and I can't even 
> manually move the shuttle with the power off.  Any good tips here for getting 
> the shuttle working again?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jerry Helffrich
> 4 Naks, 1 HK, 1 Aiwa, 1 Yamaha plus assorted R2R's
> 
> 
> 
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From willy at willyhermannservices.com  Mon Aug 30 17:19:25 2010
From: willy at willyhermannservices.com (Willy Hermann)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 07:19:25 -0800
Subject: [naktalk] Problems with tape flip mechanism on RX-202
In-Reply-To: <E294499C-E1E6-4890-A48F-BF15B25244C7@peromarta.org>
References: <201008111017.o7BA8aqS019855@zxe.naks.com>
	<240301.71920.qm@web113507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<E294499C-E1E6-4890-A48F-BF15B25244C7@peromarta.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=+GT27yLWx5-g9v+oLm58U6yqPizLasd0YVAvB@mail.gmail.com>

The white gears you can see through the hole in the plate supporting the
flipper motor both have an arrow at one cog.  Those arrows have to line up
in order for the mechanism to time correctly.  You think replacing the belt
was tricky?  Wait till you try to see those marks and line them up without
derailing the belt again!

Best of luck.
Willy

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 2:54 AM, Luis Peromarta Regert
<luis at peromarta.org>wrote:

> Try this:
>
> http://bit.ly/bCMfqN
>
> rgds, LP.
>
> El 30/08/2010, a las 03:12, j. helffrich escribió:
>
> > Hi Nakkers,
> >  I am working on my old RX-202, that used to work fine until I left it
> unused
> > for about a year and a half.  Then it had the idler wheel issue, and a
> problem
> > with not being able to complete the flip cycle on the reverse.  I
> replaced the
> > idler wheel and got a new belt for the flip motor, which appears to be
> the one
> > at the bottom of the deck.  Boy that was a tricky one to replace, but I
> think I
> > got it in, and the shuttle mechanism pushed the tape out about 1/3 of the
> way
> > and then stopped and tried to reverse.  It pulled the drawer back in but
> then
> > stopped before completely getting home and reversed again.  It then went
> into
> > several more cycles of this before I shut it off.  I figured it must be
> that I
> > got the phasing of the pot that senses shuttle position wrong, so I
> manually
> > backed the shuttle all the way in and set the pot for all the way in,
> then
> > re-meshed the gears.  Now it doesn't want to go anywhere, and I can't
> even
> > manually move the shuttle with the power off.  Any good tips here for
> getting
> > the shuttle working again?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jerry Helffrich
> > 4 Naks, 1 HK, 1 Aiwa, 1 Yamaha plus assorted R2R's
> >
> >
> >
> > ***************************************
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From p9019 at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 30 22:53:49 2010
From: p9019 at yahoo.com (Scott Johnson)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:53:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Problems with tape flip mechanism on RX-202
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=+GT27yLWx5-g9v+oLm58U6yqPizLasd0YVAvB@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201008111017.o7BA8aqS019855@zxe.naks.com>
	<240301.71920.qm@web113507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<E294499C-E1E6-4890-A48F-BF15B25244C7@peromarta.org>
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Message-ID: <239902.22110.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Jerry,
Here are some pictures of how to do the alignment.

SJ




________________________________
From: Willy Hermann <willy at willyhermannservices.com>
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Sent: Mon, August 30, 2010 8:19:25 AM
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Problems with tape flip mechanism on RX-202

The white gears you can see through the hole in the plate supporting the flipper 
motor both have an arrow at one cog.  Those arrows have to line up in order for 
the mechanism to time correctly.  You think replacing the belt was tricky?  Wait 
till you try to see those marks and line them up without derailing the belt 
again! 


Best of luck.
Willy


On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 2:54 AM, Luis Peromarta Regert <luis at peromarta.org> 
wrote:

Try this:
>
>http://bit.ly/bCMfqN
>
>rgds, LP.
>
>El 30/08/2010, a las 03:12, j. helffrich escribió:
>
>
>> Hi Nakkers,
>>  I am working on my old RX-202, that used to work fine until I left it unused
>> for about a year and a half.  Then it had the idler wheel issue, and a 
problem
>> with not being able to complete the flip cycle on the reverse.  I replaced 
the
>> idler wheel and got a new belt for the flip motor, which appears to be the 
one
>> at the bottom of the deck.  Boy that was a tricky one to replace, but I think 
>I
>> got it in, and the shuttle mechanism pushed the tape out about 1/3 of the way
>> and then stopped and tried to reverse.  It pulled the drawer back in but then
>> stopped before completely getting home and reversed again.  It then went into
>> several more cycles of this before I shut it off.  I figured it must be that 
I
>> got the phasing of the pot that senses shuttle position wrong, so I manually
>> backed the shuttle all the way in and set the pot for all the way in, then
>> re-meshed the gears.  Now it doesn't want to go anywhere, and I can't even
>> manually move the shuttle with the power off.  Any good tips here for getting
>> the shuttle working again?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jerry Helffrich
>> 4 Naks, 1 HK, 1 Aiwa, 1 Yamaha plus assorted R2R's
>>
>>
>>
>> ***************************************
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From p9019 at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 30 22:54:15 2010
From: p9019 at yahoo.com (Scott Johnson)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:54:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Problems with tape flip mechanism on RX-202 (With link
	this time)
Message-ID: <855536.22074.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

http://www.nakremotes.com/Geo/RX-Series_Belt_Replacement.htm




________________________________
From: Scott Johnson <p9019 at yahoo.com>
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Sent: Mon, August 30, 2010 1:53:49 PM
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Problems with tape flip mechanism on RX-202


Jerry,
Here are some pictures of how to do the alignment.

SJ




________________________________
From: Willy Hermann <willy at willyhermannservices.com>
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Sent: Mon, August 30, 2010 8:19:25 AM
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Problems with tape flip mechanism on RX-202

The white gears you can see through the hole in the plate supporting the flipper 
motor both have an arrow at one cog.  Those arrows have to line up in order for 
the mechanism to time correctly.  You think replacing the belt was tricky?  Wait 
till you try to see those marks and line them up without derailing the belt 
again! 


Best of luck.
Willy


On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 2:54 AM, Luis Peromarta Regert <luis at peromarta.org> 
wrote:

Try this:
>
>http://bit.ly/bCMfqN
>
>rgds, LP.
>
>El 30/08/2010, a las 03:12, j. helffrich escribió:
>
>
>> Hi Nakkers,
>>  I am working on my old RX-202, that used to work fine until I left it unused
>> for about a year and a half.  Then it had the idler wheel issue, and a 
problem
>> with not being able to complete the flip cycle on the reverse.  I replaced 
the
>> idler wheel and got a new belt for the flip motor, which appears to be the 
one
>> at the bottom of the deck.  Boy that was a tricky one to replace, but I think 
>I
>> got it in, and the shuttle mechanism pushed the tape out about 1/3 of the way
>> and then stopped and tried to reverse.  It pulled the drawer back in but then
>> stopped before completely getting home and reversed again.  It then went into
>> several more cycles of this before I shut it off.  I figured it must be that 
I
>> got the phasing of the pot that senses shuttle position wrong, so I manually
>> backed the shuttle all the way in and set the pot for all the way in, then
>> re-meshed the gears.  Now it doesn't want to go anywhere, and I can't even
>> manually move the shuttle with the power off.  Any good tips here for getting
>> the shuttle working again?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jerry Helffrich
>> 4 Naks, 1 HK, 1 Aiwa, 1 Yamaha plus assorted R2R's
>>
>>
>>
>> ***************************************
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From johngipps at ymail.com  Tue Aug 31 03:30:17 2010
From: johngipps at ymail.com (John Gipps)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 18:30:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] 1000ZXL Limited Gold Deck on ebay Australia
Message-ID: <520189.38003.qm@web113708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi All

This seller sounds pretty honest - it doesn't work - it's got some aesthetic 
defects - but he's unashamedly asking for $AUD3500+ (that's about $3125US) - 
it'll be interesting to see what it goes for.

ebay #320583424486.

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From gabrenas at math.utah.edu  Tue Aug 31 18:39:21 2010
From: gabrenas at math.utah.edu (Victor Gabrenas)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 10:39:21 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [naktalk] 1000ZXL Limited Gold Deck on ebay Australia
In-Reply-To: <520189.38003.qm@web113708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <520189.38003.qm@web113708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.64.1008311038140.10045@sunblast.math.utah.edu>

What a shame !

Vic
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, John Gipps wrote:

> Hi All

This seller sounds pretty honest - it doesn't work - it's got some aesthetic 
defects - but he's unashamedly asking for $AUD3500+ (that's about $3125US) - 
it'll be interesting to see what it goes for.

ebay #320583424486.

Regards

John Gipps

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From willy at willyhermannservices.com  Wed Dec  1 01:19:32 2010
From: willy at willyhermannservices.com (Willy Hermann)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:19:32 -0800
Subject: [naktalk] MR-2 donation
In-Reply-To: <788134569-1291152242-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1492431-@bda801.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <788134569-1291152242-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1492431-@bda801.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinBSghg5sprbbnAKTESEJNYQ7g+cxB0LMHpNRCs@mail.gmail.com>

I don't understand the question.  I'll be here most of the day tomorrow if
that's what you're getting at.  Thanks for the donation!

Willy

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 1:24 PM, <tawhitehead at aol.com> wrote:

> I'm in los gatos. Is weds ok?  Thanks
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: Wouter Heijke
> Sender: naktalk-bounces at naks.com
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> ReplyTo: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] MR-2 donation
> Sent: Nov 30, 2010 12:07 PM
>
> No one in the Bay Area???
>
> >
> > Anyone interested in a tape-eating MR-2 that is being donated through
> > naks.com?
> >
> > It is in the San Jose / Oakland, CA area.
> >
> > Let me know if you are,
> >
> > Wouter
> >
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From wotbob01 at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  1 01:27:19 2010
From: wotbob01 at yahoo.com (Bob Naylor)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:27:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] MR-2 donation
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinf1TLTfQ8s1zYmWP0AJKHQtw_RoTxQTQnS8+va@mail.gmail.com>
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Take it Willy, it's in your back yard!  Bob N

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From: Willy Hermann <willy at willyhermannservices.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] MR-2 donation
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 1:25 PM

I could use another as a parts deck.
Willy

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Wouter Heijke <wheijke at xs4all.nl> wrote:

No one in the Bay Area???



>

> Anyone interested in a tape-eating MR-2 that is being donated through

> naks.com?

>

> It is in the San Jose / Oakland, CA area.

>

> Let me know if you are,

>

> Wouter

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From yeungchc at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  1 11:54:06 2010
From: yeungchc at yahoo.com (YEUNG Chi-hung)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 02:54:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] BX-300: cannot enter into the record mode
Message-ID: <297291.82537.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Ron and Fred,
 
Yes, you are right. Shorting the terminals of the switch only confirms that it was the faulty switch that caused the problem.
 
 I have not given my explanation clearly. In the record protection switch, the terminal tab from the lower copper leaf was broken inside the black plastic holder and so the leaves did not conduct when in contact. I removed the switch from the motor block and fixed the broken tab. The BX-300 is now working perfectly with the record protection switch in place.
 
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From solexny at gmail.com  Wed Dec  1 15:45:51 2010
From: solexny at gmail.com (Dan Moy)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 09:45:51 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 problems after tire replacment
Message-ID: <AANLkTin8=-oeu8VEUgc3-=HQatMABjM0S8tXqZis0icL@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Last night I replaced the tire on my BX-300.  Prior to the
replacement, FF, RW and Play would start and stop after a short period
of time until the unit "warmed" up.

Now with the new tire FF and RW work perfectly, but Play does not work
at all.  It looks like the tape is being pushed up too high in the bay
causing the unit to stop playing.

I was very careful when replacing the tire and nothing fell into the machine.

Any tips would be appreciated.

Regards,
Dan


From classicaudiorepair at gmail.com  Wed Dec  1 17:57:17 2010
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com (Fred Longworth)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 08:57:17 -0800
Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 problems after tire replacment
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin8=-oeu8VEUgc3-=HQatMABjM0S8tXqZis0icL@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin8=-oeu8VEUgc3-=HQatMABjM0S8tXqZis0icL@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimaOTothSf7BzDKbKm-n5GHXuY-q0FqbRGygjNE@mail.gmail.com>

My guess is that you have a misalignment caused by the tape not sitting in
the correct rest position, so that when the heads move into the slots on the
cassette itself, they jam against the plastic edges of the tape, pushing it
upward.

Historically, the most common cause of this is a re-assembly error involving
the plate that sits directly behind the cassette tape.

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

* * * * *

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 6:45 AM, Dan Moy <solexny at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Last night I replaced the tire on my BX-300.  Prior to the
> replacement, FF, RW and Play would start and stop after a short period
> of time until the unit "warmed" up.
>
> Now with the new tire FF and RW work perfectly, but Play does not work
> at all.  It looks like the tape is being pushed up too high in the bay
> causing the unit to stop playing.
>
> I was very careful when replacing the tire and nothing fell into the
> machine.
>
> Any tips would be appreciated.
>
> Regards,
> Dan
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From r1seals at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  1 18:01:57 2010
From: r1seals at yahoo.com (Russ Seals)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 09:01:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 problems after tire replacment
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin8=-oeu8VEUgc3-=HQatMABjM0S8tXqZis0icL@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <369560.64528.qm@web113305.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

make sure the back plate is seated in the guide pins just one suggestion 
Russ 

--- On Wed, 12/1/10, Dan Moy <solexny at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Dan Moy <solexny at gmail.com>
Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 problems after tire replacment
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 1, 2010, 8:45 AM

Hi,

Last night I replaced the tire on my BX-300.  Prior to the
replacement, FF, RW and Play would start and stop after a short period
of time until the unit "warmed" up.

Now with the new tire FF and RW work perfectly, but Play does not work
at all.  It looks like the tape is being pushed up too high in the bay
causing the unit to stop playing.

I was very careful when replacing the tire and nothing fell into the machine.

Any tips would be appreciated.

Regards,
Dan
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From westgateishere at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  1 21:22:54 2010
From: westgateishere at yahoo.com (jay knickerbocker)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 12:22:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 problems after tire replacment
In-Reply-To: <369560.64528.qm@web113305.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <571514.34924.qm@web65402.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

could be and sounds like the reel motor need cleaning out.
 
i unplug deck and squirt some deoxit in the slots in the back of the reel motor, let it sit for a minute, plug deck back in, ff and rw a tape all the way thru 2 or 3 times, and it was good to go. if you do that put a paper towel directly under the work area so as to not contaminate other components inside the deck. some frown on this procedure, others praise it.
YMMV

good luck.

--- On Wed, 12/1/10, Russ Seals <r1seals at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Russ Seals <r1seals at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX-300 problems after tire replacment
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 1, 2010, 9:01 AM

make sure the back plate is seated in the guide pins just one suggestion 
Russ 

--- On Wed, 12/1/10, Dan Moy <solexny at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Dan Moy <solexny at gmail.com>
Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 problems after tire replacment
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 1, 2010, 8:45 AM

Hi,

Last night I replaced the tire on my BX-300.  Prior to the
replacement, FF, RW and Play would start and stop after a short period
of time until the unit "warmed" up.

Now with the new tire FF and RW work perfectly, but Play does not work
at all.  It looks like the tape is being pushed up too high in the bay
causing
 the unit to stop playing.

I was very careful when replacing the tire and nothing fell into the machine.

Any tips would be appreciated.

Regards,
Dan
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From solexny at gmail.com  Thu Dec  2 05:02:08 2010
From: solexny at gmail.com (Dan Moy)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 23:02:08 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 problems after tire replacment
In-Reply-To: <571514.34924.qm@web65402.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
References: <369560.64528.qm@web113305.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<571514.34924.qm@web65402.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim6uLkP=zr4trZ7jj7iOgZc1QtDei83b3Fm4X1a@mail.gmail.com>

Russ, Fred, you guys were right on the mark.

It was the bottom of the back plate that was not seated in the groves on the
guide pins.

Jay I did some cleaning, just get the lint out of the bottom rollers.

Now it is like new...

Thank you,
Regards,
Dan



On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 3:22 PM, jay knickerbocker
<westgateishere at yahoo.com>wrote:

> could be and sounds like the reel motor need cleaning out.
>
> i unplug deck and squirt some deoxit in the slots in the back of the reel
> motor, let it sit for a minute, plug deck back in, ff and rw a tape all the
> way thru 2 or 3 times, and it was good to go. if you do that put a paper
> towel directly under the work area so as to not contaminate other components
> inside the deck. some frown on this procedure, others praise it.
> YMMV
>
> good luck.
>
> --- On *Wed, 12/1/10, Russ Seals <r1seals at yahoo.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Russ Seals <r1seals at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX-300 problems after tire replacment
>
> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
> Date: Wednesday, December 1, 2010, 9:01 AM
>
>
> make sure the back plate is seated in the guide pins just one suggestion
> Russ
>
> --- On *Wed, 12/1/10, Dan Moy <solexny at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Dan Moy <solexny at gmail.com>
> Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 problems after tire replacment
> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
> Date: Wednesday, December 1, 2010, 8:45 AM
>
> Hi,
>
> Last night I replaced the tire on my BX-300.  Prior to the
> replacement, FF, RW and Play would start and stop after a short period
> of time until the unit "warmed" up.
>
> Now with the new tire FF and RW work perfectly, but Play does not work
> at all.  It looks like the tape is being pushed up too high in the bay
> causing the unit to stop playing.
>
> I was very careful when replacing the tire and nothing fell into the
> machine.
>
> Any tips would be appreciated.
>
> Regards,
> Dan
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From r1seals at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  2 16:10:44 2010
From: r1seals at yahoo.com (Russ Seals)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 07:10:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 problems after tire replacment
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim6uLkP=zr4trZ7jj7iOgZc1QtDei83b3Fm4X1a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <806563.82591.qm@web113319.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

well I'm glad it worked out for you
 I had that happen on one of my BX-300s don't you love the BX 300 I have 3 and they all sound great. 

--- On Wed, 12/1/10, Dan Moy <solexny at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Dan Moy <solexny at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX-300 problems after tire replacment
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 1, 2010, 10:02 PM

Russ, Fred, you guys were right on the mark.

It was the bottom of the back plate that was not seated in the groves on the guide pins.

Jay I did some cleaning, just get the lint out of the bottom rollers.


Now it is like new...

Thank you,
Regards,
Dan

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From kulak at ozemail.com.au  Fri Dec  3 01:06:59 2010
From: kulak at ozemail.com.au (Steve Kulak)
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 11:06:59 +1100
Subject: [naktalk] Differences between CA-5 and CA-5MKII
Message-ID: <769AAE326A7F40E2A07B9649F0F8E1E9@corp.halex.com.au>

Hi,

Does anyone know the differences between the CA-5 and CA-5MKII pre-amplifiers, or better still have a copy of the CA-5MKII service manual available, or even a brochure?

Thanks

Steve 
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From bluejets3 at comcast.net  Fri Dec  3 03:54:36 2010
From: bluejets3 at comcast.net (Tracy and Neville)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 21:54:36 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7 noise during playback
Message-ID: <38D9ECF217AB4216A5A1B81D74FCE4C3@TracyPC>

Hi

I just picked up a near mint condition CR-7 that I know needs the record equalization correction and the gear drive upgrade as the SN is 3535, but mechanism is very noisy during playback. Without a tape in the FF, Play and Rewind are very quiet, but with a tape it’s noisy. FF and rewind with a tape are quiet. Just to check the tapes themselves I played them in my RX 505 and no problems at all. Is this playback issue something I could fix or something I should get done while the above mods are made. I appreciate your thoughts on this.

Regards

Neville
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From wnn523484 at telfort.nl  Fri Dec  3 12:52:25 2010
From: wnn523484 at telfort.nl (ScHenk)
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 12:52:25 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Rep: CR-7 noise during playback
In-Reply-To: <201012031126.oB3B8HIf016212@zxe.naks.com>
Message-ID: <4CA9A73F00036807@mail-2-nl.mail.tiscali.sys>

Hi Neville,

Noise should go with the gear upgrade.
Eq correction is mostly needed for recording on newer SA-X and XL II S tapes.
If you don't use these to record on, it won't do much for you.

Happy listening with this wonderfull machine,
Henk Schenk
www.nakamichi-schenk.nl


>Subject: [naktalk] CR-7 noise during playback
>
>Hi
>
>I just picked up a near mint condition CR-7 that I know needs the record
>equalization correction and the gear drive upgrade as the SN is 3535, but
>mechanism is very noisy during playback. Without a tape in the FF, Play
and
>Rewind are very quiet, but with a tape it???s noisy. FF and rewind with
a
>tape are quiet. Just to check the tapes themselves I played them in my RX
>505 and no problems at all. Is this playback issue something I could fix
>or something I should get done while the above mods are made. I appreciate
>your thoughts on this.
>
>Regards
>
>Neville
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From kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com  Fri Dec  3 13:20:03 2010
From: kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com (kannan srinivasaraghavan)
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 04:20:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7 noise during playback
In-Reply-To: <38D9ECF217AB4216A5A1B81D74FCE4C3@TracyPC>
Message-ID: <975270.22829.qm@web33301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

THe CR 7A record equi mod and gear update - both are large amount of work and not a cheap work. After Equi mod, the deck needs AD  calibration ( which are not done by many and require special Gauge) 
Also the noise should go away with gear mod as your idler drive may be the one causing this noise.
So get the above done by somebody who is experienced  and equipped with proper tools 
kannan 

--- On Thu, 12/2/10, Tracy and Neville <bluejets3 at comcast.net> wrote:


From: Tracy and Neville <bluejets3 at comcast.net>
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7 noise during playback
To: naktalk at naks.com
Date: Thursday, December 2, 2010, 9:54 PM





Hi
 
I just picked up a near mint condition CR-7 that I know needs the record equalization correction and the gear drive upgrade as the SN is 3535, but mechanism is very noisy during playback. Without a tape in the FF, Play and Rewind are very quiet, but with a tape it’s noisy. FF and rewind with a tape are quiet. Just to check the tapes themselves I played them in my RX 505 and no problems at all. Is this playback issue something I could fix or something I should get done while the above mods are made. I appreciate your thoughts on this.
 
Regards
 
Neville
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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Fri Dec  3 14:50:15 2010
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra)
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 05:50:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] Rep: CR-7 noise during playback
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It is a wonderful machine in deed! But I never knew a CR7 can be so dead 
complicated..

Bala





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From: ScHenk <wnn523484 at telfort.nl>
To: naktalk at naks.com
Sent: Fri, December 3, 2010 7:52:25 PM
Subject: [naktalk] Rep: CR-7 noise during playback

Hi Neville,

Noise should go with the gear upgrade.
Eq correction is mostly needed for recording on newer SA-X and XL II S tapes.
If you don't use these to record on, it won't do much for you.

Happy listening with this wonderfull machine,
Henk Schenk
www.nakamichi-schenk.nl


>Subject: [naktalk] CR-7 noise during playback
>
>Hi
>
>I just picked up a near mint condition CR-7 that I know needs the record
>equalization correction and the gear drive upgrade as the SN is 3535, but
>mechanism is very noisy during playback. Without a tape in the FF, Play
and
>Rewind are very quiet, but with a tape it???s noisy. FF and rewind with
a
>tape are quiet. Just to check the tapes themselves I played them in my RX
>505 and no problems at all. Is this playback issue something I could fix
>or something I should get done while the above mods are made. I appreciate
>your thoughts on this.
>
>Regards
>
>Neville
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Fri Dec  3 15:42:57 2010
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 06:42:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7 noise during playback
In-Reply-To: <38D9ECF217AB4216A5A1B81D74FCE4C3@TracyPC>
References: <38D9ECF217AB4216A5A1B81D74FCE4C3@TracyPC>
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I've seen noisy FF and/or REW improve by replacing 
the idler tire or even just cleaning the pulley and hubs. 
Installing the gear mod should also fix it (though parts 
and labor cost would be fairly high and for most 
owners, difficult to justify). 

-- Ron




________________________________
From: Tracy and Neville <bluejets3 at comcast.net>
To: naktalk at naks.com
Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 9:54:36 PM
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7 noise during playback


Hi
 
I just picked up a near mint condition CR-7 that I know needs the record  
equalization correction and the gear drive upgrade as the SN is 3535, but  
mechanism is very noisy during playback. Without a tape in the FF, Play and  
Rewind are very quiet, but with a tape it’s noisy. FF and rewind with a tape are  
quiet. Just to check the tapes themselves I played them in my RX 505 and no  
problems at all. Is this playback issue something I could fix or something I  
should get done while the above mods are made. I appreciate your thoughts on  
this.
 
Regards
 
Neville


      
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From lenaw at flash.net  Fri Dec  3 16:02:51 2010
From: lenaw at flash.net (LENA WONG)
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 07:02:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7 noise during playback
In-Reply-To: <534071.11664.qm@web130101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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But this is a CR-7, not the BX-300 though.


-- Mike




________________________________
From: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>
To: Tracy and Neville <bluejets3 at comcast.net>; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette 
Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Sent: Fri, December 3, 2010 8:42:57 AM
Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-7 noise during playback


I've seen noisy FF and/or REW improve by replacing 
the idler tire or even just cleaning the pulley and hubs. 
Installing the gear mod should also fix it (though parts 
and labor cost would be fairly high and for most 
owners, difficult to justify). 

-- Ron




________________________________
From: Tracy and Neville <bluejets3 at comcast.net>
To: naktalk at naks.com
Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 9:54:36 PM
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7 noise during playback


Hi

I just picked up a near mint condition CR-7 that I know needs the record 
equalization correction and the gear drive upgrade as the SN is 3535, but 
mechanism is very noisy during playback. Without a tape in the FF, Play and 
Rewind are very quiet, but with a tape it’s noisy. FF and rewind with a tape are 
quiet. Just to check the tapes themselves I played them in my RX 505 and no 
problems at all. Is this playback issue something I could fix or something I 
should get done while the above mods are made. I appreciate your thoughts on 
this.

Regards

Neville
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From kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com  Fri Dec  3 21:05:37 2010
From: kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com (kannan srinivasaraghavan)
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 12:05:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] Rep: CR-7 noise during playback
In-Reply-To: <4CA9A73F00036807@mail-2-nl.mail.tiscali.sys>
Message-ID: <641745.82550.qm@web33305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

My experience ( more than a Dozen modifications) with CR 7 having serial numbers below 8000 which has no Rec Equalization correction - 
They sound Dull ( in record replay) with almost all tapes compared to Equilization corrected ones.
So it is worth while doing Rec Equi mod than gear mod ( if you can change the Tire without breaking the ceramic support

Kannan




--- On Fri, 12/3/10, ScHenk <wnn523484 at telfort.nl> wrote:

> From: ScHenk <wnn523484 at telfort.nl>
> Subject: [naktalk] Rep: CR-7 noise during playback
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 6:52 AM
> Hi Neville,
> 
> Noise should go with the gear upgrade.
> Eq correction is mostly needed for recording on newer SA-X
> and XL II S tapes.
> If you don't use these to record on, it won't do much for
> you.
> 
> Happy listening with this wonderfull machine,
> Henk Schenk
> www.nakamichi-schenk.nl
> 
> 
> >Subject: [naktalk] CR-7 noise during playback
> >
> >Hi
> >
> >I just picked up a near mint condition CR-7 that I know
> needs the record
> >equalization correction and the gear drive upgrade as
> the SN is 3535, but
> >mechanism is very noisy during playback. Without a tape
> in the FF, Play
> and
> >Rewind are very quiet, but with a tape it???s noisy. FF
> and rewind with
> a
> >tape are quiet. Just to check the tapes themselves I
> played them in my RX
> >505 and no problems at all. Is this playback issue
> something I could fix
> >or something I should get done while the above mods are
> made. I appreciate
> >your thoughts on this.
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Neville
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From n.van.wijnen at inter.nl.net  Fri Dec  3 21:52:01 2010
From: n.van.wijnen at inter.nl.net (Norman van Wijnen)
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 21:52:01 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 ZXL
Message-ID: <001201cb932b$ef904f40$ceb0edc0$@van.wijnen@inter.nl.net>

Hi,

 

I am looking for a good 700 ZXL deck and i wonder what it is worth? Do you
have any idea? Is the 700 ZXL a better buy (and a better deck) then the CR7?

 

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From ronami at yahoo.com  Fri Dec  3 22:42:36 2010
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 13:42:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7 noise during playback
In-Reply-To: <468869.11393.qm@web80205.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <38D9ECF217AB4216A5A1B81D74FCE4C3@TracyPC>
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The transport is essentially the same in both,

-- Ron





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From: LENA WONG <lenaw at flash.net>
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Sent: Fri, December 3, 2010 10:02:51 AM
Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-7 noise during playback


But this is a CR-7, not the BX-300 though.
 
 
-- Mike




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To: Tracy and Neville <bluejets3 at comcast.net>; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette 
Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Sent: Fri, December 3, 2010 8:42:57 AM
Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-7 noise during playback


I've seen noisy FF and/or REW improve by replacing 
the idler tire or even just cleaning the pulley and hubs. 
Installing the gear mod should also fix it (though parts 
and labor cost would be fairly high and for most 
owners, difficult to justify). 

-- Ron




________________________________
 From: Tracy and Neville <bluejets3 at comcast.net>
To: naktalk at naks.com
Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 9:54:36 PM
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7 noise during playback


Hi
 
I just picked up a near mint condition CR-7 that I know needs the record 
equalization correction and the gear drive upgrade as the SN is 3535, but 
mechanism is very noisy during playback. Without a tape in the FF, Play and 
Rewind are very quiet, but with a tape it’s noisy. FF and rewind with a tape are 
quiet. Just to check the tapes themselves I played them in my RX 505 and no 
problems at all. Is this playback issue something I could fix or something I 
should get done while the above mods are made. I appreciate your thoughts on 
this.
 
Regards
 
Neville



      
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From bluejets3 at comcast.net  Fri Dec  3 22:44:51 2010
From: bluejets3 at comcast.net (Neville and Tracy)
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 16:44:51 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7 noise during playback
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Thanks Kannan

 

I have a request out for the cost of the service mods which I understand will not be cheap, but I’m also interested in someone with knowledge looking under the hood while this is being done so I can look forward to years of uninterrupted use.  In the USA there’s a couple of places that seem to be used for the mods, but if there are recommendations for this as well I would appreciate it.

 

Regards

 

Neville

 

 

From: kannan srinivasaraghavan [mailto:kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 7:20 AM
To: Tracy and Neville; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-7 noise during playback

 


THe CR 7A record equi mod and gear update - both are large amount of work and not a cheap work. After Equi mod, the deck needs AD  calibration ( which are not done by many and require special Gauge) 

Also the noise should go away with gear mod as your idler drive may be the one causing this noise.

So get the above done by somebody who is experienced  and equipped with proper tools 

kannan 

--- On Thu, 12/2/10, Tracy and Neville <bluejets3 at comcast.net> wrote:


From: Tracy and Neville <bluejets3 at comcast.net>
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7 noise during playback
To: naktalk at naks.com
Date: Thursday, December 2, 2010, 9:54 PM

Hi

 

I just picked up a near mint condition CR-7 that I know needs the record equalization correction and the gear drive upgrade as the SN is 3535, but mechanism is very noisy during playback. Without a tape in the FF, Play and Rewind are very quiet, but with a tape it’s noisy. FF and rewind with a tape are quiet. Just to check the tapes themselves I played them in my RX 505 and no problems at all. Is this playback issue something I could fix or something I should get done while the above mods are made. I appreciate your thoughts on this.

 

Regards

 

Neville


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From kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  4 14:37:21 2010
From: kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com (kannan srinivasaraghavan)
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 05:37:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 ZXL
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Hi Norman
700 ZXL is better deck - based on the spec and it is having the old classic Nak transport
However I find that maintanence may be an issue as it may have issues with Autocalibration, then it is a pain servicing it ( as Im working on one right now)
 
However CR7 is simplified modern equivalent of 700ZXL ( only a fraction of better bandwidth and flatter Rec/replay response) - probably easier to service than the other
 
On the listening comparison, I actually liked 700ZXE better than both of these
 
So it is finally down to your listening comparison and the condition of the Deck by you (700ZXL one deck to another there can be differences in sound quality due to its age/use  - all the electrolytic capacitors age, Orange Polypropelen caps fail or change values- causes differences in the way the machine sound)
kannan
 

--- On Fri, 12/3/10, Norman van Wijnen <n.van.wijnen at inter.nl.net> wrote:


From: Norman van Wijnen <n.van.wijnen at inter.nl.net>
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 ZXL
To: naktalk at naks.com
Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 3:52 PM






Hi,
 
I am looking for a good 700 ZXL deck and i wonder what it is worth? Do you have any idea? Is the 700 ZXL a better buy (and a better deck) then the CR7?
 
Regards Norman
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From: n.van.wijnen at inter.nl.net (Norman van Wijnen)
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 17:44:10 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 ZXL
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Hi Kannan,

 

Thanks for your response. What do you think about the price of a 700 ZXL?

Regards Norman 

 

Van: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] Namens
kannan srinivasaraghavan
Verzonden: zaterdag 4 december 2010 14:37
Aan: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Onderwerp: Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 ZXL

 


Hi Norman

700 ZXL is better deck - based on the spec and it is having the old classic
Nak transport

However I find that maintanence may be an issue as it may have issues with
Autocalibration, then it is a pain servicing it ( as Im working on one right
now)

 

However CR7 is simplified modern equivalent of 700ZXL ( only a fraction of
better bandwidth and flatter Rec/replay response) - probably easier to
service than the other

 

On the listening comparison, I actually liked 700ZXE better than both of
these

 

So it is finally down to your listening comparison and the condition of the
Deck by you (700ZXL one deck to another there can be differences in sound
quality due to its age/use  - all the electrolytic capacitors age, Orange
Polypropelen caps fail or change values- causes differences in the way the
machine sound)

kannan

 

--- On Fri, 12/3/10, Norman van Wijnen <n.van.wijnen at inter.nl.net> wrote:


From: Norman van Wijnen <n.van.wijnen at inter.nl.net>
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 ZXL
To: naktalk at naks.com
Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 3:52 PM

Hi,

 

I am looking for a good 700 ZXL deck and i wonder what it is worth? Do you
have any idea? Is the 700 ZXL a better buy (and a better deck) then the CR7?

 

Regards Norman


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From kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  4 20:43:32 2010
From: kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com (kannan srinivasaraghavan)
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 11:43:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 ZXL
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Message-ID: <804096.76316.qm@web33302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Norman 
I sold one for 1000$ after complete alignment and calibration. ( Shipping was 420$ to Australia!- the person paid )
Some times you can get one on ebay for about 600$ if it has some issues or even less 
But the risk is yours! Not many units come up - one recently on ebay canada was listed for 2500$ - did not sell. 
Kannan  

--- On Sat, 12/4/10, Norman van Wijnen <n.van.wijnen at inter.nl.net> wrote:


From: Norman van Wijnen <n.van.wijnen at inter.nl.net>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 ZXL
To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 11:44 AM






Hi Kannan,
 
Thanks for your response. What do you think about the price of a 700 ZXL?
Regards Norman 
 

Van: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] Namens kannan srinivasaraghavan
Verzonden: zaterdag 4 december 2010 14:37
Aan: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Onderwerp: Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 ZXL
 





Hi Norman

700 ZXL is better deck - based on the spec and it is having the old classic Nak transport

However I find that maintanence may be an issue as it may have issues with Autocalibration, then it is a pain servicing it ( as Im working on one right now)

 

However CR7 is simplified modern equivalent of 700ZXL ( only a fraction of better bandwidth and flatter Rec/replay response) - probably easier to service than the other

 

On the listening comparison, I actually liked 700ZXE better than both of these

 

So it is finally down to your listening comparison and the condition of the Deck by you (700ZXL one deck to another there can be differences in sound quality due to its age/use  - all the electrolytic capacitors age, Orange Polypropelen caps fail or change values- causes differences in the way the machine sound)

kannan

 

--- On Fri, 12/3/10, Norman van Wijnen <n.van.wijnen at inter.nl.net> wrote:


From: Norman van Wijnen <n.van.wijnen at inter.nl.net>
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 ZXL
To: naktalk at naks.com
Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 3:52 PM


Hi,
 
I am looking for a good 700 ZXL deck and i wonder what it is worth? Do you have any idea? Is the 700 ZXL a better buy (and a better deck) then the CR7?
 
Regards Norman

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From shoeihell at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  4 13:48:21 2010
From: shoeihell at yahoo.com (Kevin Fetner)
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 04:48:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] RE:Nakamichi 700 ZXL
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Norman,
I own a restored 700ZXL....I think the bass is incredible and overall a very 
pleasing deck to live with. I don't think it's as analytical as my RX-505, but 
very seductive. I also have the Nak external Dolby C unit with it. I don't know 
on value.....I haven't seen that many of them sold. I think most here are going 
to favor the CR-7 because it's the 'darling' of the Naks right now in 
popularity, but it does have the non-traditional Sankyo tape transport.  


Kevin


Message: 7
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 21:52:01 +0100
From: "Norman van Wijnen" <n.van.wijnen at inter.nl.net>
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Hi,



I am looking for a good 700 ZXL deck and i wonder what it is worth? Do you
have any idea? Is the 700 ZXL a better buy (and a better deck) then the CR7?



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From gabrenas at math.utah.edu  Sat Dec  4 23:40:50 2010
From: gabrenas at math.utah.edu (Victor Gabrenas)
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 15:40:50 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 ZXL
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References: <004a01cb93d2$79eab030$6dc01090$@van.wijnen@inter.nl.net>
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Norman,

 

I sold mine about a month ago for about $850 completely aligned and
calibrated with new belts from Fred.

 

Vic

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of kannan srinivasaraghavan
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 12:44 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 ZXL

 


Hi Norman 

I sold one for 1000$ after complete alignment and calibration. ( Shipping
was 420$ to Australia!- the person paid )

Some times you can get one on ebay for about 600$ if it has some issues or
even less 

But the risk is yours! Not many units come up - one recently on ebay canada
was listed for 2500$ - did not sell. 

Kannan  

--- On Sat, 12/4/10, Norman van Wijnen <n.van.wijnen at inter.nl.net> wrote:


From: Norman van Wijnen <n.van.wijnen at inter.nl.net>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 ZXL
To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 11:44 AM

Hi Kannan,

 

Thanks for your response. What do you think about the price of a 700 ZXL?

Regards Norman 

 

Van: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] Namens
kannan srinivasaraghavan
Verzonden: zaterdag 4 december 2010 14:37
Aan: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Onderwerp: Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 ZXL

 


Hi Norman

700 ZXL is better deck - based on the spec and it is having the old classic
Nak transport

However I find that maintanence may be an issue as it may have issues with
Autocalibration, then it is a pain servicing it ( as Im working on one right
now)

 

However CR7 is simplified modern equivalent of 700ZXL ( only a fraction of
better bandwidth and flatter Rec/replay response) - probably easier to
service than the other

 

On the listening comparison, I actually liked 700ZXE better than both of
these

 

So it is finally down to your listening comparison and the condition of the
Deck by you (700ZXL one deck to another there can be differences in sound
quality due to its age/use  - all the electrolytic capacitors age, Orange
Polypropelen caps fail or change values- causes differences in the way the
machine sound)

kannan

 

--- On Fri, 12/3/10, Norman van Wijnen <n.van.wijnen at inter.nl.net> wrote:


From: Norman van Wijnen <n.van.wijnen at inter.nl.net>
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 ZXL
To: naktalk at naks.com
Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 3:52 PM

Hi,

 

I am looking for a good 700 ZXL deck and i wonder what it is worth? Do you
have any idea? Is the 700 ZXL a better buy (and a better deck) then the CR7?

 

Regards Norman


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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  5 07:38:19 2010
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra)
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 22:38:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] RE:Nakamichi 700 ZXL
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Message-ID: <821099.47274.qm@web30206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Seductive is indeed the right word. It has a slightly different character to the 
1000ZXL, but sounds still a cut above the other units in terms of detail and 
soundstage (imaging). A good condition deck can fetch at least $2000, although 
the value quickly deteriorates as these decks aren't too service friendly. They 
are quite similar in terms of what the CR7 is, although the CR7 has a quicker 
microprocessor, playback azimuth and Dolby C in it's favor. Soundwise, I find 
that that the CR7 is very crisp and analytical -something that those who like a 
highly detailed sound would like. The CR7 almost sounds like a very very good CD 
player, until you look for the next track button and you realize you are 
listening to cassette. 


The 700ZXL sounds totally analog. Like it's larger reel to reel cousins, it 
throw a big image, with a wonderful low and mid-bass. Yet, it has very nice 
treble that is listenable for long periods of time. Imaging is deep and wide 
(with the right set-up of course), although performance varies from pre-recorded 
tapes due to lack of playback azimuth. The lack of a microprocessor driven 
auto-cal is not a disadvantage because the elaborate circuit is easy to service 
(except for the memory ICs). And the nifty RAMM, which is microprocessor driven 
(and the same circuit as the 1000ZXL) is cool when you use it. 


The person best to decide would be the buyer. Having 2 CR7s and 2 700ZXLs, the 
latter get more playtime with me at home. Good luck, but personally the 700ZXL 
will not disappoint and I would not be surprised if it de-thrones the  CR7 as 
much as the 1000ZXL did to the Dragon. I know the ZXLs did win over one 
hard-core Dragon/ZX9/CR7 pundit. 


Bala 





________________________________
From: Kevin Fetner <shoeihell at yahoo.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com
Sent: Sat, December 4, 2010 8:48:21 PM
Subject: [naktalk] RE:Nakamichi 700 ZXL


Norman,
I own a restored 700ZXL....I think the bass is incredible and overall a very 
pleasing deck to live with. I don't think it's as analytical as my RX-505, but 
very seductive. I also have the Nak external Dolby C unit with it. I don't know 
on value.....I haven't seen that many of them sold. I think most here are going 
to favor the CR-7 because it's the 'darling' of the Naks right now in 
popularity, but it does have the non-traditional Sankyo tape transport.  


Kevin


Message: 7
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 21:52:01 +0100
From: "Norman van Wijnen" <n.van.wijnen at inter.nl.net>
Subject: 
To: <naktalk at naks.com>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi,



I am looking for a good 700 ZXL deck and i wonder what it is worth? Do you
have any idea? Is the 700 ZXL a better buy (and a better deck) then the CR7?



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From n.van.wijnen at inter.nl.net  Sun Dec  5 14:36:45 2010
From: n.van.wijnen at inter.nl.net (Norman van Wijnen)
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 14:36:45 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] RE:Nakamichi 700 ZXL
In-Reply-To: <821099.47274.qm@web30206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <201012041119.oB4B9Cs2020640@zxe.naks.com>	<236663.20346.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<821099.47274.qm@web30206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002901cb9481$75d20020$61760060$@van.wijnen@inter.nl.net>

Hi Kevin, Bala and all others,

 

Thanks for all the advice. It is indeed a difficult choice. Maybe the old
pre recorded tapes can be played better  with the CR7 because of the azimuth
control  but the old  traditional tape transport of the ZXL is a big plus.

I did not found Nakamichi decision to go for a sankyo transport  a good
choice . On the other hand , also the Sankyo transports are running for
years now .

Much to think about.  Maybe i have to buy the ZXL and do a a/b test with the
CR7 to make a choice.

 

Regards,

 

Norman

 

 

 

 

Van: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] Namens Bala
Ganesh Chandra
Verzonden: zondag 5 december 2010 7:38
Aan: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Onderwerp: Re: [naktalk] RE:Nakamichi 700 ZXL

 

Seductive is indeed the right word. It has a slightly different character to
the 1000ZXL, but sounds still a cut above the other units in terms of detail
and soundstage (imaging). A good condition deck can fetch at least $2000,
although the value quickly deteriorates as these decks aren't too service
friendly. They are quite similar in terms of what the CR7 is, although the
CR7 has a quicker microprocessor, playback azimuth and Dolby C in it's
favor. Soundwise, I find that that the CR7 is very crisp and analytical
-something that those who like a highly detailed sound would like. The CR7
almost sounds like a very very good CD player, until you look for the next
track button and you realize you are listening to cassette. 

The 700ZXL sounds totally analog. Like it's larger reel to reel cousins, it
throw a big image, with a wonderful low and mid-bass. Yet, it has very nice
treble that is listenable for long periods of time. Imaging is deep and wide
(with the right set-up of course), although performance varies from
pre-recorded tapes due to lack of playback azimuth. The lack of a
microprocessor driven auto-cal is not a disadvantage because the elaborate
circuit is easy to service (except for the memory ICs). And the nifty RAMM,
which is microprocessor driven (and the same circuit as the 1000ZXL) is cool
when you use it. 

The person best to decide would be the buyer. Having 2 CR7s and 2 700ZXLs,
the latter get more playtime with me at home. Good luck, but personally the
700ZXL will not disappoint and I would not be surprised if it de-thrones the
CR7 as much as the 1000ZXL did to the Dragon. I know the ZXLs did win over
one hard-core Dragon/ZX9/CR7 pundit. 

Bala 

 

 

  _____  

From: Kevin Fetner <shoeihell at yahoo.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com
Sent: Sat, December 4, 2010 8:48:21 PM
Subject: [naktalk] RE:Nakamichi 700 ZXL

Norman,
I own a restored 700ZXL....I think the bass is incredible and overall a very
pleasing deck to live with. I don't think it's as analytical as my RX-505,
but very seductive. I also have the Nak external Dolby C unit with it. I
don't know on value.....I haven't seen that many of them sold. I think most
here are going to favor the CR-7 because it's the 'darling' of the Naks
right now in popularity, but it does have the non-traditional Sankyo tape
transport.  

Kevin


Message: 7
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 21:52:01 +0100
From: "Norman van Wijnen" <n.van.wijnen at inter.nl.net>
Subject: 
To: <naktalk at naks.com>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi,



I am looking for a good 700 ZXL deck and i wonder what it is worth? Do you
have any idea? Is the 700 ZXL a better buy (and a better deck) then the CR7?



Regards Norman

 

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From martinwh at comcast.net  Mon Dec  6 00:51:03 2010
From: martinwh at comcast.net (martinwh at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 23:51:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 1000
Message-ID: <797129800.222812.1291593063594.JavaMail.root@sz0172a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Just picked up a very nice Nakamichi 1000 deck. This will be used mostly to play the 200+ pre-recorded cassette tapes my wife has from the 80s. Its a kick to listen to these tapes and the machine plays them very well. 

I was hoping to record a tape for my pickup which only has a cassette player but I'm not pleased with the results I am getting. The tape is an old XLII from the 80s that has never been used. Possible the azimuth is not set right? I tried adjust it using the directions in the manual but I can't seem to get much response or change from the lights when turning the knob. They both tend to flicker just a little no matter what you do with the screw. Not real sure what it is suppose to look like? 

Martin 
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From andrei_kho at hotmail.com  Mon Dec  6 04:26:55 2010
From: andrei_kho at hotmail.com (andrei kho)
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 03:26:55 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] Problem with LX-3 cassette ejection
Message-ID: <BLU149-W60499B088D4AD39C5E5BA0E92B0@phx.gbl>


Hello everyone, 
 
 I have a Nakamichi LX-3 deck that sometimes doesn't want to open its cassette holder regardless is it empty or has a cassette inside. The problem is IMHO pure mechanical because this happens with the deck powered on or off. All belts are just replaced and the deck plays well.
 
I opened the LX-3 and it appears that a small vertically-positioned hammer-shaped lever in the cassette holder assembly is blocking the larger L-shaped lever from moving up, preventing opening of the cassette holder. That small lever is popped out by a tiny spring; if it is pressed inwards, the cassette holder opens fine.
 
I have a service manual and the diagram of the cassette case holder assembly (p. 53) described the small lever as "eject arm B" and the large lever as "eject arm A".
 
Anyone knows how to fix this? Apparently, something should press the “eject arm B” inwards to clear the way for “eject arm A” but I don’t see what could do it.  I also don’t see any obvious function for this “Eject arm B”.
 
Thank you for your help,     
 


Andrei 
 
  		 	   		  
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From vijaybagaria04 at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  6 04:55:37 2010
From: vijaybagaria04 at yahoo.com (Vijay Bagaria)
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 09:25:37 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [naktalk] cr 5
Message-ID: <239914.40433.qm@web95016.mail.in2.yahoo.com>

hi all,
i am vijay bagaria, male, age 43, architect and interior designer by profession residing at mumbai, india.

i am owning nakamichi cr 5. the problem i have is that i am getting too loud headphone output. pl show me ways to fix it.

thanks.



vijay bagaria






From willy at willyhermannservices.com  Mon Dec  6 14:07:13 2010
From: willy at willyhermannservices.com (Willy Hermann)
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 05:07:13 -0800
Subject: [naktalk] Problem with LX-3 cassette ejection
In-Reply-To: <BLU149-W60499B088D4AD39C5E5BA0E92B0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU149-W60499B088D4AD39C5E5BA0E92B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=DT--whuBBammB=8D7radSSVZoRN+R-U3Q2=fk@mail.gmail.com>

Sound as thought the stop position is improperly adjusted.  Check the
service manual for the proper cam adjustment for play and stop.  You'll find
adjustment pots on the power supply board.

Willy

On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 7:26 PM, andrei kho <andrei_kho at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  Hello everyone,
>
>  I have a Nakamichi LX-3 deck that sometimes doesn't want to open its
> cassette holder regardless is it empty or has a cassette inside. The problem
> is IMHO pure mechanical because this happens with the deck powered on or
> off. All belts are just replaced and the deck plays well.
>
> I opened the LX-3 and it appears that a small vertically-positioned
> hammer-shaped lever in the cassette holder assembly is blocking the
> larger L-shaped lever from moving up, preventing opening of the cassette
> holder. That small lever is popped out by a tiny spring; if it is pressed
> inwards, the cassette holder opens fine.
>
> I have a service manual and the diagram of the cassette case holder
> assembly (p. 53) described the small lever as "eject arm B" and the large
> lever as "eject arm A".
>
> Anyone knows how to fix this? Apparently, something should press the “eject
> arm B” inwards to clear the way for “eject arm A” but I don’t see what could
> do it.  I also don’t see any obvious function for this “Eject arm B”.
>
> Thank you for your help,
>
>
>
>
> Andrei
>
>
>
>
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From mike.k.mitchell at boeing.com  Mon Dec  6 16:55:53 2010
From: mike.k.mitchell at boeing.com (Mitchell, Mike K)
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 07:55:53 -0800
Subject: [naktalk] Nak 700 stops after starting to play tapes
In-Reply-To: <239914.40433.qm@web95016.mail.in2.yahoo.com>
References: <239914.40433.qm@web95016.mail.in2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <D3B973AAB83A944F9DC5FA5CE236C2A7052E0AEEF2@XCH-SW-01V.sw.nos.boeing.com>

 
I have used my Nak 700 since ~1975 and only cleaned it every couple years and put in new belts ~5 years ago.  Yesterday the tapes would start for a few seconds then stop as if the motor did not have enough power to drive the tape.  The tapes are all "loose" ie not too tight.  Ideas?


From josephjean at verizon.net  Mon Dec  6 16:35:34 2010
From: josephjean at verizon.net (goodguy)
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 10:35:34 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Wow!  best guess was $35
Message-ID: <0LD0008FXJB8VYT0@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net>

I recall someone on this forum predicting that TDK XG-90 tapes would 
go for $35.  At the time, I bought 35 of them for $8 a piece.

look at the price they fetch now.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=320625032213&si=eJI9BgV%252FuZNIyDbPpAqx%252F7sOXas%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&autorefresh=true




From ronami at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  6 18:16:52 2010
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 09:16:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] cr 5
In-Reply-To: <239914.40433.qm@web95016.mail.in2.yahoo.com>
References: <239914.40433.qm@web95016.mail.in2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <628094.9527.qm@web130107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


Try to adjust the output Level Control. It's
on the front panel.

-- Ron






________________________________
From: Vijay Bagaria <vijaybagaria04 at yahoo.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com
Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 10:55:37 PM
Subject: [naktalk] cr 5

hi all,
i am vijay bagaria, male, age 43, architect and interior designer by profession 
residing at mumbai, india.

i am owning nakamichi cr 5. the problem i have is that i am getting too loud 
headphone output. pl show me ways to fix it.

thanks.



vijay bagaria




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From gerhard.wartha at gmail.com  Mon Dec  6 18:31:36 2010
From: gerhard.wartha at gmail.com (Gerhard Wartha)
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 18:31:36 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Wow!  best guess was $35
In-Reply-To: <0LD0008FXJB8VYT0@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <0LD0008FXJB8VYT0@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <2EEF1B03-4F07-4F66-A02C-D60EBD47B5A6@gmail.com>

Yes! .... my be  the owner from bad cassette decks think this  decks  
sound better with  TDK XG.

If a Nakamich ist aligned and with working elektronic you get perfect  
sound out of a lot of  cassettes,
Like TDK- D 1978 to 1985 or maxel UD And XL made in that time, still  
for sale for a good price on Ebay.

Regards Gerhard


Am 06.12.2010 um 16:35 schrieb goodguy:

> I recall someone on this forum predicting that TDK XG-90 tapes  
> would go for $35.  At the time, I bought 35 of them for $8 a piece.
>
> look at the price they fetch now.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? 
> ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=320625032213&si=eJI9BgV% 
> 252FuZNIyDbPpAqx%252F7sOXas%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBIDX% 
> 3AIT&autorefresh=true
>
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From shantiram2000 at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  6 20:49:23 2010
From: shantiram2000 at yahoo.com (shanti ramachandran)
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 11:49:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] cr 5
In-Reply-To: <239914.40433.qm@web95016.mail.in2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <19761.48366.qm@web112716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Turn down the output volume of the deck to suit your comfortable level of listening with headphones.

Ram.

--- On Sun, 12/5/10, Vijay Bagaria <vijaybagaria04 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Vijay Bagaria <vijaybagaria04 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [naktalk] cr 5
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 10:55 PM
> hi all,
> i am vijay bagaria, male, age 43, architect and interior
> designer by profession residing at mumbai, india.
> 
> i am owning nakamichi cr 5. the problem i have is that i am
> getting too loud headphone output. pl show me ways to fix
> it.
> 
> thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> vijay bagaria
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From mark8559 at hotmail.com  Mon Dec  6 20:45:57 2010
From: mark8559 at hotmail.com (Mark Exstedt)
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 12:45:57 -0700
Subject: FW: [naktalk] Wow!  best guess was $35
In-Reply-To: <2EEF1B03-4F07-4F66-A02C-D60EBD47B5A6@gmail.com>
References: <0LD0008FXJB8VYT0@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net>,
	<2EEF1B03-4F07-4F66-A02C-D60EBD47B5A6@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT111-W493B20F6EC0E2D99B6B7D1DB2B0@phx.gbl>


Here's a comment from my 24 year old 'digital age' son:

It can't be hard to manufacture these... why doesn't some company make these anymore if they go for so much?

I never thought about that.
He's a sharp minded camper who has a good point.
 

> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? 
> > ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=320625032213&si=eJI9BgV% 
> > 252FuZNIyDbPpAqx%252F7sOXas%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBIDX% 
> > 3AIT&autorefresh=true

 		 	   		  
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From gabrenas at math.utah.edu  Mon Dec  6 21:46:58 2010
From: gabrenas at math.utah.edu (Victor Gabrenas)
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 13:46:58 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Wow!  best guess was $35
In-Reply-To: <SNT111-W493B20F6EC0E2D99B6B7D1DB2B0@phx.gbl>
References: <0LD0008FXJB8VYT0@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net>,
	<2EEF1B03-4F07-4F66-A02C-D60EBD47B5A6@gmail.com>
	<SNT111-W493B20F6EC0E2D99B6B7D1DB2B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <007401cb9586$b9c78c90$2d56a5b0$@math.utah.edu>

You would think that TDK would notice and fire up the manufacturing them
again.

 

Victor M. Gabrenas                      Voice:                1-801-581-5257

University of Utah                      FAX:
1-801-581-4148

Department of Mathematics         Email:
gabrenas at math.utah.edu

155 S 1400 E RM 233                     Office:                LCB105

Salt Lake City, Ut, 84112-0090       

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Mark Exstedt
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:46 PM
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: FW: [naktalk] Wow! best guess was $35

 

Here's a comment from my 24 year old 'digital age' son:

It can't be hard to manufacture these... why doesn't some company make these
anymore if they go for so much?

I never thought about that.
He's a sharp minded camper who has a good point.
 

> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? 
> > ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=320625032213&si=eJI9BgV% 
> > 252FuZNIyDbPpAqx%252F7sOXas%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBIDX% 
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From josephjean at verizon.net  Mon Dec  6 21:48:10 2010
From: josephjean at verizon.net (goodguy)
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 15:48:10 -0500
Subject: FW: [naktalk] Wow!  best guess was $35
In-Reply-To: <SNT111-W493B20F6EC0E2D99B6B7D1DB2B0@phx.gbl>
References: <0LD0008FXJB8VYT0@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net>
	<2EEF1B03-4F07-4F66-A02C-D60EBD47B5A6@gmail.com>
	<SNT111-W493B20F6EC0E2D99B6B7D1DB2B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <0LD0000DVXS9Z239@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net>

I think Quantegy was the last to manufacture any type of quality tape 
but RMGI or ATR should be able to duplicate their stuff for cassette 
use especially how vinyl sales are increasing rapidly.


At 02:45 PM 12/6/2010, you wrote:
>Here's a comment from my 24 year old 'digital age' son:
>
>It can't be hard to manufacture these... why doesn't some company 
>make these anymore if they go for so much?
>
>I never thought about that.
>He's a sharp minded camper who has a good point.
>
>
> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> > > ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=320625032213&si=eJI9BgV%
> > > 252FuZNIyDbPpAqx%252F7sOXas%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBIDX%
> > > 3AIT&autorefresh=true
>
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From cles at o2.pl  Mon Dec  6 23:19:49 2010
From: cles at o2.pl (cles at o2.pl)
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 23:19:49 +0100
Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_FW:_[naktalk]_Wow!__best_guess?=
	=?UTF-8?Q?_was_$35?=
In-Reply-To: <SNT111-W493B20F6EC0E2D99B6B7D1DB2B0@phx.gbl>
References: <0LD0008FXJB8VYT0@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net>,
	<2EEF1B03-4F07-4F66-A02C-D60EBD47B5A6@gmail.com>
	<SNT111-W493B20F6EC0E2D99B6B7D1DB2B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <7ba412b2.eefaf8.4cfd6185.17ad7@o2.pl


I doubt anything this quality could be made cheep these days. Probably would cost close to what it sells on ebay now.
Low production run, sophisticated design. That costs.
Dnia 6 grudnia 2010 20:45 Mark Exstedt &lt;mark8559 at hotmail.com&gt; napisał(a):
Here's a comment from my 24 year old 'digital age' son:
It can't be hard to manufacture these... why doesn't some company make these anymore if they go for so much?
I never thought about that.
He's a sharp minded camper who has a good point.
 
&gt; &gt; http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
&gt; &gt; ViewItem&amp;rt=nc&amp;nma=true&amp;item=320625032213&amp;si=eJI9BgV%
&gt; &gt; 252FuZNIyDbPpAqx%252F7sOXas%253D&amp;viewitem=&amp;sspagename=STRK%3AMEBIDX%
&gt; &gt; 3AIT&amp;autorefresh=true
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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  7 00:21:48 2010
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra)
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 15:21:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] Wow!  best guess was $35
In-Reply-To: <007401cb9586$b9c78c90$2d56a5b0$@math.utah.edu>
References: <0LD0008FXJB8VYT0@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net>,
	<2EEF1B03-4F07-4F66-A02C-D60EBD47B5A6@gmail.com>
	<SNT111-W493B20F6EC0E2D99B6B7D1DB2B0@phx.gbl>
	<007401cb9586$b9c78c90$2d56a5b0$@math.utah.edu>
Message-ID: <517664.58554.qm@web30201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

That is true that they are not too difficult to produce. But tooling and 
machinery, and to get the process up and going is a significant cost. 
Considering the fact that most companies are running lean these days, they would 
not want to go into such a manufacture because the economics of making cassette 
tapes are far different from DVD and CD blanks. And because TDK knows that the 
era of physical media is drawing to a close, they are focussing on other 
magnetic and memory technologies more then media - their acquisition of the 
EPCOS unit from Siemens is an example. 


They way forward maybe for a smaller manufactory to acquire any available 
tooling and then use that to produce tapes in a more economical manner, possibly 
like how ATR magenetics is doing it. 


The first step though Mark, is to have a mind like your son - the mind that 
questions and prods and eventually finds an answer. Sharp indeed!

Bala 




________________________________
From: Victor Gabrenas <gabrenas at math.utah.edu>
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Sent: Tue, December 7, 2010 4:46:58 AM
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Wow!  best guess was $35


You would think that TDK would notice and fire up the manufacturing them again.
 
Victor M. Gabrenas                      Voice:                1-801-581-5257
University of Utah                      FAX:                   1-801-581-4148
Department of Mathematics         Email:               gabrenas at math.utah.edu
155 S 1400 E RM 233                     Office:                LCB105
Salt Lake City, Ut, 84112-0090       
 
From:naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of 
Mark Exstedt
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:46 PM
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: FW: [naktalk] Wow! best guess was $35
 
Here's a comment from my 24 year old 'digital age' son:

It can't be hard to manufacture these... why doesn't some company make these 
anymore if they go for so much?

I never thought about that.
He's a sharp minded camper who has a good point.
 

> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? 
> > ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=320625032213&si=eJI9BgV% 
> > 252FuZNIyDbPpAqx%252F7sOXas%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBIDX% 
> > 3AIT&autorefresh=true


      
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From shoeihell at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  7 16:23:34 2010
From: shoeihell at yahoo.com (Kevin Fetner)
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 07:23:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] RE:Wow!  best guess was $35
In-Reply-To: <201012071117.oB7B8Isg029364@zxe.naks.com>
References: <201012071117.oB7B8Isg029364@zxe.naks.com>
Message-ID: <172342.51692.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

There was a contingency of tape enthusiasts that did just that; they approached 
TDK about firing up a run on at least one of their better cassette tape 
types.....they got an absolute and confirmed 'NO'. Agreed, it would take a small 
company with clever marketing and streamlined production to pull it off. 
Possible, but for whatever the reason it doesn't look like it's in the cards. 
Maybe it's some sort of voodoo revenge for all the yrs home cassettes ran home 
R2R into obscurity.;-)

Kevin


________________________________
Message: 11
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 15:21:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Bala Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Wow!  best guess was $35
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID: <517664.58554.qm at web30201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

That is true that they are not too difficult to produce. But tooling and 
machinery, and to get the process up and going is a significant cost. 
Considering the fact that most companies are running lean these days, they would 

not want to go into such a manufacture because the economics of making cassette 
tapes are far different from DVD and CD blanks. And because TDK knows that the 
era of physical media is drawing to a close, they are focussing on other 
magnetic and memory technologies more then media - their acquisition of the 
EPCOS unit from Siemens is an example. 


They way forward maybe for a smaller manufactory to acquire any available 
tooling and then use that to produce tapes in a more economical manner, possibly 

like how ATR magenetics is doing it. 


The first step though Mark, is to have a mind like your son - the mind that 
questions and prods and eventually finds an answer. Sharp indeed!

Bala 
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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  8 04:13:31 2010
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra)
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 19:13:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] RE:Wow!  best guess was $35
In-Reply-To: <172342.51692.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <201012071117.oB7B8Isg029364@zxe.naks.com>
	<172342.51692.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <463858.25424.qm@web30208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Well the R2Rs are having their revenge now with ATR! The answer from TDK may be 
more due to their business model now (to shy away from the high-volume/thin 
margin) media business and concentrate on other ventures. Unless someone fronts 
some money to buy off all those machinery and tooling to set-up their own place 
to make their own tapes. But the further time goes, it looks more likely that 
things will stay the way they are while R2Rs, as you say, will have their 
revenge . 

Bala





________________________________
From: Kevin Fetner <shoeihell at yahoo.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com
Sent: Tue, December 7, 2010 11:23:34 PM
Subject: [naktalk] RE:Wow!  best guess was $35


There was a contingency of tape enthusiasts that did just that; they approached 
TDK about firing up a run on at least one of their better cassette tape 
types.....they got an absolute and confirmed 'NO'. Agreed, it would take a small 
company with clever marketing and streamlined production to pull it off. 
Possible, but for whatever the reason it doesn't look like it's in the cards. 
Maybe it's some sort of voodoo revenge for all the yrs home cassettes ran home 
R2R into obscurity.;-)

Kevin


________________________________
Message: 11
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 15:21:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Bala  Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Wow!  best guess was $35
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID: <517664.58554.qm at web30201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

That is true that they are not too difficult to produce. But tooling and 
machinery, and to get the process up and going is a significant cost. 
Considering the fact that most companies are running lean these days, they would 

not want to go into such a manufacture because the economics of making cassette 
tapes are far different from DVD and CD blanks. And  because TDK knows that the 
era of physical media is drawing to a close, they are focussing on other 
magnetic and memory technologies more then media - their acquisition of the 
EPCOS unit from Siemens is an example. 


They way forward maybe for a smaller manufactory to acquire any available 
tooling and then use that to produce tapes in a more economical manner, possibly 

like how ATR magenetics is doing it. 


The first step though Mark, is to have a mind like your son - the mind that 
questions and prods and eventually finds an answer. Sharp indeed!

Bala 


      
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From bob31411 at msn.com  Wed Dec  8 13:21:49 2010
From: bob31411 at msn.com (Bobby Crabtree)
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 06:21:49 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] RE:Wow!  best guess was $35
In-Reply-To: <463858.25424.qm@web30208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Look at the resurgence of records, or "vinyls" as the kids call them. Maybe there is hope somewhere down the line. 

Bobby


From: Bala Ganesh Chandra 
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 9:13 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE:Wow! best guess was $35


Well the R2Rs are having their revenge now with ATR! The answer from TDK may be more due to their business model now (to shy away from the high-volume/thin margin) media business and concentrate on other ventures. Unless someone fronts some money to buy off all those machinery and tooling to set-up their own place to make their own tapes. But the further time goes, it looks more likely that things will stay the way they are while R2Rs, as you say, will have their revenge . 
Bala






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From: Kevin Fetner <shoeihell at yahoo.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com
Sent: Tue, December 7, 2010 11:23:34 PM
Subject: [naktalk] RE:Wow! best guess was $35


There was a contingency of tape enthusiasts that did just that; they approached TDK about firing up a run on at least one of their better cassette tape types.....they got an absolute and confirmed 'NO'. Agreed, it would take a small company with clever marketing and streamlined production to pull it off. Possible, but for whatever the reason it doesn't look like it's in the cards. Maybe it's some sort of voodoo revenge for all the yrs home cassettes ran home R2R into obscurity.;-)

Kevin


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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 15:21:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Bala Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Wow!  best guess was $35
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID: <517664.58554.qm at web30201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

That is true that they are not too difficult to produce. But tooling and 
machinery, and to get the process up and going is a significant cost. 
Considering the fact that most companies are running lean these days, they would 
not want to go into such a manufacture because the economics of making cassette 
tapes are far different from DVD and CD blanks. And because TDK knows that the 
era of physical media is drawing to a close, they are focussing on other 
magnetic and memory technologies more then media - their acquisition of the 
EPCOS unit from Siemens is an example. 


They way forward maybe for a smaller manufactory to acquire any available 
tooling and then use that to produce tapes in a more economical manner, possibly 
like how ATR magenetics is doing it. 


The first step though Mark, is to have a mind like your son - the mind that 
questions and prods and eventually finds an answer. Sharp indeed!

Bala 




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From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra)
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 22:16:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] RE:Wow!  best guess was $35
In-Reply-To: <Bay138-DS14438E79B533C91A17D8639C2D0@phx.gbl>
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The prime driver for vinyls, I suspect, has been the club circuits where vinyl 
is seen as the gold standard in DJing. Cassettes don't seem to have that kind of 
a foothold that can be used to leverage a comeback. The most realistic way for 
cassettes to make a comeback would seem to be for any of the active reel tape 
manufacturers to get into the act. 


Bala






________________________________
From: Bobby Crabtree <bob31411 at msn.com>
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 8:21:49 PM
Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE:Wow!  best guess was $35


Look at the resurgence of records, or "vinyls" as  the kids call them. Maybe 
there is hope somewhere down the line. 

 
Bobby


From: Bala Ganesh Chandra 
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 9:13 PM
To: Talk  about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE:Wow! best guess was $35

Well the  R2Rs are having their revenge now with ATR! The answer from TDK may be 
more due  to their business model now (to shy away from the high-volume/thin 
margin) media  business and concentrate on other ventures. Unless someone fronts 
some money to  buy off all those machinery and tooling to set-up their own place 
to make their  own tapes. But the further time goes, it looks more likely that 
things will stay  the way they are while R2Rs, as you say, will have their 
revenge . 

Bala





________________________________
 From: Kevin Fetner  <shoeihell at yahoo.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com
Sent: Tue,  December 7, 2010 11:23:34 PM
Subject: [naktalk] RE:Wow! best guess was  $35


There  was a contingency of tape enthusiasts that did just that; they approached 
TDK  about firing up a run on at least one of their better cassette tape  
types.....they got an absolute and confirmed 'NO'. Agreed, it would take a small  
company with clever marketing and streamlined production to pull it off.  
Possible, but for whatever the reason it doesn't look like it's in the cards.  
Maybe it's some sort of voodoo revenge for all the yrs home cassettes ran home  
R2R into obscurity.;-)

Kevin


________________________________
 Message: 11
Date: Mon, 6  Dec 2010 15:21:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Bala Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re:  [naktalk] Wow!  best guess was $35
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette  Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
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Content-Type:  text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

That is true that they are not too  difficult to produce. But tooling and 
machinery, and to get the process up  and going is a significant cost. 
Considering the fact that most companies  are running lean these days, they 
would 

not want to go into such a  manufacture because the economics of making cassette 

tapes are far different from DVD and CD  blanks. And because TDK knows that the 
era of physical media is drawing to a  close, they are focussing on other 
magnetic and memory technologies more  then media - their acquisition of the 
EPCOS unit from Siemens is an example. 


They way forward maybe for a smaller manufactory to acquire any  available 
tooling and then use that to produce tapes in a more economical  manner, 
possibly 

like how ATR magenetics is doing it. 


The first  step though Mark, is to have a mind like your son - the mind that 
questions  and prods and eventually finds an answer. Sharp indeed!

Bala 

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From ct.waveform at googlemail.com  Wed Dec  8 17:20:34 2010
From: ct.waveform at googlemail.com (Christian Thomas)
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 16:20:34 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] Nak 700 stops after starting to play tapes
In-Reply-To: <D3B973AAB83A944F9DC5FA5CE236C2A7052E0AEEF2@XCH-SW-01V.sw.nos.boeing.com>
References: <239914.40433.qm@web95016.mail.in2.yahoo.com>
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Has no one replied to this?

I would guess that the spool uptake motor is getting a bit weak and sticky.
 The tape then gets loose after the capstan and an auto cutout stops the
tape from playing.  The full time solution to this is to replace the motor
but this is probably a shame since the problem is likely to be caused by the
lubricating grease thickening up through lack of use and age rather than any
actual damage.

Squirting various solvents and oils into the motor is one route to curing
this.  Ideally you would remove the motor and then run it for a few hours in
each direction.  Alternatively you can do a bit of squirting into some of
the holes and around the phosphor bronze bearings and FF and Rewind it
without a tape for a couple of hours in each direction (keeping a monitor of
the temperature - though this shouldn't be a problem.)  You may find this
starts to allow you perhaps 10 minutes into the tape before it stops again,
in which case more of the same is required.  Overnight soaks also help as it
takes some time for the bronze to take up the new oil.  Hope this helps.

CT

On 6 December 2010 15:55, Mitchell, Mike K <mike.k.mitchell at boeing.com>wrote:

>
> I have used my Nak 700 since ~1975 and only cleaned it every couple years
> and put in new belts ~5 years ago.  Yesterday the tapes would start for a
> few seconds then stop as if the motor did not have enough power to drive the
> tape.  The tapes are all "loose" ie not too tight.  Ideas?
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From fred at marrscom.com  Thu Dec  9 11:37:33 2010
From: fred at marrscom.com (Fred Marrs)
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 04:37:33 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Communications and Belts
Message-ID: <4D00B16D.7030806@marrscom.com>

*12-9-10, Hello to All Members. I hope everyone is having a great Holiday

Season. There are Rumors floating again. Just want to give you an Update

about the Future of Marrs Communications.

Members, at ease. __

THE eBAY STORE IS CURRENTLY CLOSED FOR 1 REASON ONLY !

400 ORDERS WERE RECEIVED OVER THE THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY.

100, of the 400 Orders Received have Already been Shipped.

Since eBay buyers do not READ past the Listing Header, and expect their

Purchase to be delivered the "day after they make payment", I closed the

Store. I DO EXPECT to receive some Negative Feedback, due to the

amount of time it will take to Process these 300 Remaining orders.

See further explanation below:


My Listings on eBay are packed with Information, but eBay buyers will not

Take the time to read the Description.

Here are some Highlights.


1. My business is NOT run on borrowed Money. Strictly Cash.


2. Almost 26,000 Belts in Stock, and Growing. All inventory is Paid for.


3. 99.7% of my Belts are Manufactured by, an OEM Manufacturer in Japan.

This manufacturer was Not the Only, but one of the manufacturers

CONTRACTED with Nakamichi to Supply them with ALL BELTS for the

Production of new machines, and the Parts Department.

They are the Last surviving Belt supplier to Nakamichi.

When and if, they decide to call it quits, _ I Quit.


ALL Belts, currently being sold in the United States are manufactured

In China or Taiwan. You CAN purchase from American Companies

BUT, the product is Imported and produced in one

of these countries.

There is MUCH more info about this, but no need to bore you.

This means I am the Only supplier providing

belts, produced in Japan.



4. My business was started with Nakamichi Factory Capstan Belts.

The members of Naktalk, were constantly complaining there were NO

capstan Belts available for the Nakamichi "Original" or "Classic",

Nakamichi designed transport, that would meet published Nakamichi

wow/flutter specifications.

I had this belt produced to EXACT Nakamichi Specifications, which

Solved the problem. I have also done this for other Brands like Aiwa,

And More are coming.

5. The Business grew from there.


SHIPPING DELAYS


6. Here are the main reasons for shipment delays.

(No excuses, just Fact)


7. Marrs Communications is a 1 MAN operation. All

belts are purchased in Bulk, by size.


8. Every Kit is made by hand AFTER your purchase,

allowing for The inspection of Every Belt which goes in your kit.


9. ALL interchange and application information, about what belts

Fit what machine, is 30 Years Old.


10. None of the Belt manufacturers STILL IN BUSINESS,

have newer information.

To date, I have CORRECTED approximately 475 mistakes in this 30
Year old INFORMATION.


11. The biggest problem is TIME. I must do

everything.

I Currently work 12-16 Hours a Day. This is going to Stop.


I am 60 years of age and do NOT need, or want to work this hard.

When it stops being fun, I QUIT.


A few examples of my Duties.


A. Purchase the Product from Japan. (6-8 weeks lead time).

( Orders Received Weekly ).

B. Receive the Bulk Inventory, sort by size and place in inventory.

C. Maintain the eBay Store. I currently have 544

listings on eBay.

D. Answer approximately 200 eBay emails, per

Day.

E. Make every kit by hand, AFTER your order

has been placed, Package, fill out Customs Forms and Ship.

(About 50% of Orders are International)

F. Process orders for Service Center Customers.

(Separate Business).



12. I am in the Process of moving MOST Listing to my own web-site.

( http:www.marrscommunications.com <http://www.marrscommunications.com> 
) Currently down for updating.


Doing business on eBay is a pain due to their current and constantly

Changing " Rules and Regulations ".

Their site is very cumbersome and Efficiency is a Joke.


BOTTOM LINE:

My Customers are Guaranteed 100% Satisfaction Guaranteed,

No matter what. Reading past Feedback tells it all.

If the Customer is not happy, I am not happy.


Any additional Questions the Members might have are WELCOME.

info at marrscommunications.com


For Members that have UNANSWERED emails, please send to:

fred at marrscom.com I am very sorry about this and

feel sure they are buried In the eBay mail.


Health permitting, I plan on staying in the Belt Business for Many Years to

Come.

Thanks again, Fred M. Marrs Communications*



From dgb100 at psu.edu  Thu Dec  9 14:24:28 2010
From: dgb100 at psu.edu (Beckner, Derrick)
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 08:24:28 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] RE:Wow!  best guess was $35
In-Reply-To: <863170.7776.qm@web30203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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It's a lot more than clubs, there are quite a few indy companies doing reisssues, just about every new pop/rock release is available on vinyl, and even the major labels like Columbia and Sony have been reissuing LPs.

Cassettes got a bad rap on quality since most prerecorded cassettes were crap and were played on crap decks or in cars.  The only thing cassettes had going for them in the general publics mind is that they were portable and recordable.  Once CD-Rs became cheap and readily available the death of cassettes was only a matter of time.

Now widespread mp3s and unbelievably cheap storage (1 TB for $99!) have started to kill CD-Rs and DVD-Rs.  New CDs will be around as long as companies insist on schlepping off inferior digital downloads, but once they get on board with DVD or SACD quality downloads, CDs will likely croak too.

But we'll always have vinyl.  The market is small but strong and a lot of artists are still married to analogue production.
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Bala Ganesh Chandra
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 1:16 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE:Wow! best guess was $35

The prime driver for vinyls, I suspect, has been the club circuits where vinyl is seen as the gold standard in DJing. Cassettes don't seem to have that kind of a foothold that can be used to leverage a comeback. The most realistic way for cassettes to make a comeback would seem to be for any of the active reel tape manufacturers to get into the act.

Bala


________________________________
From: Bobby Crabtree <bob31411 at msn.com>
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 8:21:49 PM
Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE:Wow! best guess was $35
Look at the resurgence of records, or "vinyls" as the kids call them. Maybe there is hope somewhere down the line.

Bobby

From: Bala Ganesh Chandra<mailto:bg3009 at yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 9:13 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks<mailto:naktalk at naks.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE:Wow! best guess was $35

Well the R2Rs are having their revenge now with ATR! The answer from TDK may be more due to their business model now (to shy away from the high-volume/thin margin) media business and concentrate on other ventures. Unless someone fronts some money to buy off all those machinery and tooling to set-up their own place to make their own tapes. But the further time goes, it looks more likely that things will stay the way they are while R2Rs, as you say, will have their revenge .
Bala


________________________________
From: Kevin Fetner <shoeihell at yahoo.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com
Sent: Tue, December 7, 2010 11:23:34 PM
Subject: [naktalk] RE:Wow! best guess was $35
There was a contingency of tape enthusiasts that did just that; they approached TDK about firing up a run on at least one of their better cassette tape types.....they got an absolute and confirmed 'NO'. Agreed, it would take a small company with clever marketing and streamlined production to pull it off. Possible, but for whatever the reason it doesn't look like it's in the cards. Maybe it's some sort of voodoo revenge for all the yrs home cassettes ran home R2R into obscurity.;-)

Kevin
________________________________
Message: 11
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 15:21:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Bala Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Wow!  best guess was $35
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID: <517664.58554.qm at web30201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

That is true that they are not too difficult to produce. But tooling and
machinery, and to get the process up and going is a significant cost.
Considering the fact that most companies are running lean these days, they would
not want to go into such a manufacture because the economics of making cassette
tapes are far different from DVD and CD blanks. And because TDK knows that the
era of physical media is drawing to a close, they are focussing on other
magnetic and memory technologies more then media - their acquisition of the
EPCOS unit from Siemens is an example.


They way forward maybe for a smaller manufactory to acquire any available
tooling and then use that to produce tapes in a more economical manner, possibly
like how ATR magenetics is doing it.


The first step though Mark, is to have a mind like your son - the mind that
questions and prods and eventually finds an answer. Sharp indeed!

Bala

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From dball1 at woh.rr.com  Thu Dec  9 14:29:38 2010
From: dball1 at woh.rr.com (Dennis Ball)
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 08:29:38 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Communications and Belts
In-Reply-To: <4D00B16D.7030806@marrscom.com>
References: <4D00B16D.7030806@marrscom.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTincqiSmP1GkugCWDpjws5o-8fjGW+giA3SGry7V@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Fred!  Here's wishing you a joyous holiday season, and safe and
prosperous New Year.  Thank you for all your time & efforts.

Dennis

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 5:37 AM, Fred Marrs <fred at marrscom.com> wrote:

> *12-9-10, Hello to All Members. I hope everyone is having a great Holiday
>
> Season. There are Rumors floating again. Just want to give you an Update
>
> about the Future of Marrs Communications.
>
> Members, at ease. __
>
> THE eBAY STORE IS CURRENTLY CLOSED FOR 1 REASON ONLY !
>
> 400 ORDERS WERE RECEIVED OVER THE THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY.
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From kaupp240 at hotmail.com  Thu Dec  9 18:39:09 2010
From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com (Cheryl Kaupp)
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 07:39:09 -1000
Subject: [naktalk] Nak 700 stops after starting to play tapes
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I had this problem on the 582. I left the motor on the chassis, laid it with
the spindle up (and secured so it wouldn't tip over). It creates a nice
little "pool" for oil - which can filled with quality sewing machine oil. I
let the 582 sit for many hours and every time I walked by the spindle got a
bunch of finger spins. Be careful to thoroughly clean off all the excess oil
before picking up the transport - and then clean it again. Worked like a
charm on the 582.

Aloha,

Cheryl

 

  _____  

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Christian Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 6:21 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nak 700 stops after starting to play tapes

 

Has no one replied to this?

 

I would guess that the spool uptake motor is getting a bit weak and sticky.
The tape then gets loose after the capstan and an auto cutout stops the tape
from playing.  The full time solution to this is to replace the motor but
this is probably a shame since the problem is likely to be caused by the
lubricating grease thickening up through lack of use and age rather than any
actual damage.

 

Squirting various solvents and oils into the motor is one route to curing
this.  Ideally you would remove the motor and then run it for a few hours in
each direction.  Alternatively you can do a bit of squirting into some of
the holes and around the phosphor bronze bearings and FF and Rewind it
without a tape for a couple of hours in each direction (keeping a monitor of
the temperature - though this shouldn't be a problem.)  You may find this
starts to allow you perhaps 10 minutes into the tape before it stops again,
in which case more of the same is required.  Overnight soaks also help as it
takes some time for the bronze to take up the new oil.  Hope this helps.

 

CT

On 6 December 2010 15:55, Mitchell, Mike K <mike.k.mitchell at boeing.com>
wrote:


I have used my Nak 700 since ~1975 and only cleaned it every couple years
and put in new belts ~5 years ago.  Yesterday the tapes would start for a
few seconds then stop as if the motor did not have enough power to drive the
tape.  The tapes are all "loose" ie not too tight.  Ideas?
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From r1seals at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  9 16:44:13 2010
From: r1seals at yahoo.com (Russ Seals)
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 07:44:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Communications and Belts
In-Reply-To: <4D00B16D.7030806@marrscom.com>
Message-ID: <146022.10942.qm@web113313.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi Fred I know it's been a up hill battle on the belts and don't know if it is worth it or not only you can say but I know that there are lot's of people here on this form and lot's of others that appreciate all the hard work  that you went through get these belts made. 
 Have your self a great Christmas and new year hope you dig out soon from under all the orders 
 PS I need a belt kit for a couple of my naks but will wait till things slow down a little all the best I'll call you later 
 Russ Seals

--- On Thu, 12/9/10, Fred Marrs <fred at marrscom.com> wrote:

From: Fred Marrs <fred at marrscom.com>
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Communications and Belts
To: "NakTalk" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Thursday, December 9, 2010, 4:37 AM

*12-9-10, Hello to All Members. I hope everyone is having a great Holiday

Season. There are Rumors floating again. Just want to give you an Update

about the Future of Marrs Communications.

Members, at ease. __

THE eBAY STORE IS CURRENTLY CLOSED FOR 1 REASON ONLY !

400 ORDERS WERE RECEIVED OVER THE THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY.

100, of the 400 Orders Received have Already been Shipped.

Since eBay buyers do not READ past the Listing Header, and expect their

Purchase to be delivered the "day after they make payment", I closed the

Store. I DO EXPECT to receive some Negative Feedback, due to the

amount of time it will take to Process these 300 Remaining orders.

See further explanation below:


My Listings on eBay are packed with Information, but eBay buyers will not

Take the time to read the Description.

Here are some Highlights.


1. My business is NOT run on borrowed Money. Strictly Cash.


2. Almost 26,000 Belts in Stock, and Growing. All inventory is Paid for.


3. 99.7% of my Belts are Manufactured by, an OEM Manufacturer in Japan.

This manufacturer was Not the Only, but one of the manufacturers

CONTRACTED with Nakamichi to Supply them with ALL BELTS for the

Production of new machines, and the Parts Department.

They are the Last surviving Belt supplier to Nakamichi.

When and if, they decide to call it quits, _ I Quit.


ALL Belts, currently being sold in the United States are manufactured

In China or Taiwan. You CAN purchase from American Companies

BUT, the product is Imported and produced in one

of these countries.

There is MUCH more info about this, but no need to bore you.

This means I am the Only supplier providing

belts, produced in Japan.



4. My business was started with Nakamichi Factory Capstan Belts.

The members of Naktalk, were constantly complaining there were NO

capstan Belts available for the Nakamichi "Original" or "Classic",

Nakamichi designed transport, that would meet published Nakamichi

wow/flutter specifications.

I had this belt produced to EXACT Nakamichi Specifications, which

Solved the problem. I have also done this for other Brands like Aiwa,

And More are coming.

5. The Business grew from there.


SHIPPING DELAYS


6. Here are the main reasons for shipment delays.

(No excuses, just Fact)


7. Marrs Communications is a 1 MAN operation. All

belts are purchased in Bulk, by size.


8. Every Kit is made by hand AFTER your purchase,

allowing for The inspection of Every Belt which goes in your kit.


9. ALL interchange and application information, about what belts

Fit what machine, is 30 Years Old.


10. None of the Belt manufacturers STILL IN BUSINESS,

have newer information.

To date, I have CORRECTED approximately 475 mistakes in this 30
Year old INFORMATION.


11. The biggest problem is TIME. I must do

everything.

I Currently work 12-16 Hours a Day. This is going to Stop.


I am 60 years of age and do NOT need, or want to work this hard.

When it stops being fun, I QUIT.


A few examples of my Duties.


A. Purchase the Product from Japan. (6-8 weeks lead time).

( Orders Received Weekly ).

B. Receive the Bulk Inventory, sort by size and place in inventory.

C. Maintain the eBay Store. I currently have 544

listings on eBay.

D. Answer approximately 200 eBay emails, per

Day.

E. Make every kit by hand, AFTER your order

has been placed, Package, fill out Customs Forms and Ship.

(About 50% of Orders are International)

F. Process orders for Service Center Customers.

(Separate Business).



12. I am in the Process of moving MOST Listing to my own web-site.

( http:www.marrscommunications.com <http://www.marrscommunications.com> ) Currently down for updating.


Doing business on eBay is a pain due to their current and constantly

Changing " Rules and Regulations ".

Their site is very cumbersome and Efficiency is a Joke.


BOTTOM LINE:

My Customers are Guaranteed 100% Satisfaction Guaranteed,

No matter what. Reading past Feedback tells it all.

If the Customer is not happy, I am not happy.


Any additional Questions the Members might have are WELCOME.

info at marrscommunications.com


For Members that have UNANSWERED emails, please send to:

fred at marrscom.com I am very sorry about this and

feel sure they are buried In the eBay mail.


Health permitting, I plan on staying in the Belt Business for Many Years to

Come.

Thanks again, Fred M. Marrs Communications*

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From classicaudiorepair at gmail.com  Thu Dec  9 19:05:05 2010
From: classicaudiorepair at gmail.com (Fred Longworth)
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 10:05:05 -0800
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Communications and Belts
In-Reply-To: <4D00B16D.7030806@marrscom.com>
References: <4D00B16D.7030806@marrscom.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik5BkDEee0rh2Wzpz0+BaQMNxat5fQEjicQssjp@mail.gmail.com>

Fred, in your shoes I would send out a mass email to the eBay customers,
apologizing in advance for the delays.

This should eliminate the lion's share of complaints.

By the way, happy holidays!

Fred
Classic Audio Repair
www.repairaudio.com

* * * * *

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 2:37 AM, Fred Marrs <fred at marrscom.com> wrote:

> *12-9-10, Hello to All Members. I hope everyone is having a great Holiday
>
> Season. There are Rumors floating again. Just want to give you an Update
>
> about the Future of Marrs Communications.
>
> Members, at ease. __
>
> THE eBAY STORE IS CURRENTLY CLOSED FOR 1 REASON ONLY !
>
> 400 ORDERS WERE RECEIVED OVER THE THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY.
>
> 100, of the 400 Orders Received have Already been Shipped.
>
> Since eBay