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From mstager at verizon.net  Tue Apr  2 03:13:40 2013
From: mstager at verizon.net (Marc Stager)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 21:13:40 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Selling MR-1 for parts
Message-ID: <0MKL00FW7SQT2670@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net>

Nice looking MR-1, transport works fine, heads are excellent.

Recording and play circuits are dead,
no VU display recording or playing.

Pick up in NYC - $75.00

Best,
Marc
212-595-4065
212-675-6000 



From fgiddi at windstream.net  Tue Apr  2 12:00:09 2013
From: fgiddi at windstream.net (Francis Giddings)
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 06:00:09 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] For Sale
Message-ID: <515AAC29.7000103@windstream.net>

My entire collection of decks is for sale, I have 20 decks various 
conditions.
Contact me for a list of what I have.

Thanks,

Fran Giddings


From hautboys at aol.com  Tue Apr  2 13:47:31 2013
From: hautboys at aol.com (hautboys at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 07:47:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [naktalk] For Sale
In-Reply-To: <515AAC29.7000103@windstream.net>
References: <515AAC29.7000103@windstream.net>
Message-ID: <8CFFDAEFE293839-1FE0-432F8@Webmail-m114.sysops.aol.com>

Hi Fran,

I am interested in your decks.  What are you listing?

Thanks,
Rich

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Francis Giddings <fgiddi at windstream.net>
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Sent: Tue, Apr 2, 2013 7:12 am
Subject: [naktalk] For Sale


My entire collection of decks is for sale, I have 20 decks various 
conditions.
Contact me for a list of what I have.

Thanks,

Fran Giddings
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From dovhilton at gmail.com  Tue Apr  2 14:33:32 2013
From: dovhilton at gmail.com (David Hilton)
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 23:33:32 +1100
Subject: [naktalk] For Sale
In-Reply-To: <515AAC29.7000103@windstream.net>
References: <515AAC29.7000103@windstream.net>
Message-ID: <CA+fOUVW6kJjL4O-zUqcfeZ4pGTyJ0NWSh2pxdiw=dX+JB_-huw@mail.gmail.com>

I am very interested in your decks.
Please send me your list
Kindest regards
David Hilton


On 2 April 2013 21:00, Francis Giddings <fgiddi at windstream.net> wrote:

> My entire collection of decks is for sale, I have 20 decks various
> conditions.
> Contact me for a list of what I have.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Fran Giddings
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-- 
David Hilton
104/1 Boomerang Place
Woolloomooloo
Sydney NSW 2011
Tel (02) 9 360 7268 H
Mbl 04214 72692
W (02) 9267 2477
WFax (02) 9264 8871
WorkEmail david at greatsynagogue.org.au
Skype dovhilton
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From angel9esoteric at gmail.com  Tue Apr  2 15:03:50 2013
From: angel9esoteric at gmail.com (MD)
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 09:03:50 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] For Sale
In-Reply-To: <CA+fOUVW6kJjL4O-zUqcfeZ4pGTyJ0NWSh2pxdiw=dX+JB_-huw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <515AAC29.7000103@windstream.net>
	<CA+fOUVW6kJjL4O-zUqcfeZ4pGTyJ0NWSh2pxdiw=dX+JB_-huw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEo=m-WCkuHnZaFKKRM6pFSFWZwuPrMH5hNoFHd-wE38ZZ-7wA@mail.gmail.com>

Please email the whole list.Thanks.

On 4/2/13, David Hilton <dovhilton at gmail.com> wrote:
> I am very interested in your decks.
> Please send me your list
> Kindest regards
> David Hilton
>
>
> On 2 April 2013 21:00, Francis Giddings <fgiddi at windstream.net> wrote:
>
>> My entire collection of decks is for sale, I have 20 decks various
>> conditions.
>> Contact me for a list of what I have.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Fran Giddings
>> ========----------------------**------------------------------**
>> -----=========
>>          Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
>> ========----------------------**------------------------------**
>> -----=========
>>                        Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
>> Maintain your account here:
>> http://www.naks.com/mailman/**listinfo/naktalk<http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk>
>> ========----------------------**------------------------------**
>> -----=========
>>
>
>
>
> --
> David Hilton
> 104/1 Boomerang Place
> Woolloomooloo
> Sydney NSW 2011
> Tel (02) 9 360 7268 H
> Mbl 04214 72692
> W (02) 9267 2477
> WFax (02) 9264 8871
> WorkEmail david at greatsynagogue.org.au
> Skype dovhilton
>


From rkrause at multiplan.com.br  Tue Apr  2 16:57:33 2013
From: rkrause at multiplan.com.br (Rodrigo Krause)
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 11:57:33 -0300
Subject: RES: [naktalk] For Sale
In-Reply-To: <515AAC29.7000103@windstream.net>
References: <515AAC29.7000103@windstream.net>
Message-ID: <382EB200D8357149B166678763023AC405DA35C8@SMTZEX01.mti.com.br>

Hi Francis,

 

I would be interested in looking into your Nak "stable" too. Would you be so kind to send it to me, with pictures if possible? 

Thank you,

 

Rodrigo Krause

rksr59 at terra.com.br

 

-----Mensagem original-----
De: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] Em nome de Francis Giddings
Enviada em: terça-feira, 2 de abril de 2013 07:00
Para: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Assunto: [naktalk] For Sale

 

My entire collection of decks is for sale, I have 20 decks various conditions.

Contact me for a list of what I have.

 

Thanks,

 

Fran Giddings

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From davidfrow at hotmail.com  Tue Apr  2 17:05:48 2013
From: davidfrow at hotmail.com (David Frow)
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 16:05:48 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] For Sale
In-Reply-To: <515AAC29.7000103@windstream.net>
References: <515AAC29.7000103@windstream.net>
Message-ID: <SNT140-W57A0454697888D92BA2F72BDDF0@phx.gbl>

Hi, I need a play head from a 680/680ZX and also one for a 481/482/482Z if you have them.  Thanks, David
 > Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 06:00:09 -0400
> From: fgiddi at windstream.net
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Subject: [naktalk] For Sale
> 
> My entire collection of decks is for sale, I have 20 decks various 
> conditions.
> Contact me for a list of what I have.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Fran Giddings
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>           Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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From mark8559 at hotmail.com  Tue Apr  2 18:19:17 2013
From: mark8559 at hotmail.com (Mark Exstedt)
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 10:19:17 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] RX-505 Cover Sells for $97.35 on Ebay
Message-ID: <BLU168-W422688C3AA99A77528508ADBDF0@phx.gbl>

 Sold for big bucks and have to let the group know.I've not seeen one go for a higher price: http://www.ebay.com/itm/nakamichi-rx-505-cassette-tape-dust-cover-front-clear-shield-/390559352858?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item5aef26c81a 		 	   		  
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From shantiram2000 at yahoo.com  Tue Apr  2 23:55:28 2013
From: shantiram2000 at yahoo.com (shanti ramachandran)
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 14:55:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi Cabinet refinishing.
Message-ID: <1364939728.22671.YahooMailNeo@web120901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Folks,

In my quest for a perfectly restored Nakamichi including cosmetics of the deck's cover, (which many a times is pathetic at best bought from ebay) I
happened to have some work done by a local artist who made my decks' sparkle with his magic.

I am attaching a picture of my CR7 ( which was horribly scratched) for all to see. I can have this done for anyone interested for a $55 charge with shipping both ways paid by the buyer.( prepaid labels) The turn around time would be a week to two weeks after receipt.

If interested, or with any questions please contact me off line at shantiram2000 at yahoo.com.

Regards,

Ram.
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From fgiddi at windstream.net  Wed Apr  3 02:01:19 2013
From: fgiddi at windstream.net (Francis Giddings)
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 20:01:19 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] For Sale
In-Reply-To: <8CFFDAEFE293839-1FE0-432F8@Webmail-m114.sysops.aol.com>
References: <515AAC29.7000103@windstream.net>
	<8CFFDAEFE293839-1FE0-432F8@Webmail-m114.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <515B714F.9040007@windstream.net>

On 4/2/2013 7:47 AM, hautboys at aol.com wrote:
> Hi Fran,
>
> I am interested in your decks.  What are you listing?
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Francis Giddings <fgiddi at windstream.net>
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
> Sent: Tue, Apr 2, 2013 7:12 am
> Subject: [naktalk] For Sale
>
> My entire collection of decks is for sale, I have 20 decks various
> conditions.
> Contact me for a list of what I have.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Fran Giddings
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>            Also check out the wiki!http://www.naks.com/wiki
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>                          Naktalk at naks.com  <mailto:Naktalk at naks.com>  mailinglist
> Maintain your account here:http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>
>
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>            Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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Here is the list

Thanks
Fran
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From fgiddi at windstream.net  Wed Apr  3 02:05:05 2013
From: fgiddi at windstream.net (Francis Giddings)
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 20:05:05 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] For Sale
In-Reply-To: <CA+fOUVW6kJjL4O-zUqcfeZ4pGTyJ0NWSh2pxdiw=dX+JB_-huw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <515AAC29.7000103@windstream.net>
	<CA+fOUVW6kJjL4O-zUqcfeZ4pGTyJ0NWSh2pxdiw=dX+JB_-huw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <515B7231.5020804@windstream.net>

On 4/2/2013 8:33 AM, David Hilton wrote:
> I am very interested in your decks.
> Please send me your list
> Kindest regards
> David Hilton
>
>
> On 2 April 2013 21:00, Francis Giddings <fgiddi at windstream.net 
> <mailto:fgiddi at windstream.net>> wrote:
>
>     My entire collection of decks is for sale, I have 20 decks various
>     conditions.
>     Contact me for a list of what I have.
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Fran Giddings
>     ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>              Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
>     ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>     Naktalk at naks.com <mailto:Naktalk at naks.com> mailinglist
>     Maintain your account here:
>     http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>     ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> David Hilton
> 104/1 Boomerang Place
> Woolloomooloo
> Sydney NSW 2011
> Tel (02) 9 360 7268 H
> Mbl 04214 72692
> W (02) 9267 2477
> WFax (02) 9264 8871
> WorkEmail david at greatsynagogue.org.au <mailto:david at greatsynagogue.org.au>
> Skype dovhilton
>
>
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> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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Wish I could personally deliver one to you.  anyway here is the list

Thanks

Fran
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  3 15:53:11 2013
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 06:53:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi Cabinet refinishing.
In-Reply-To: <1364939728.22671.YahooMailNeo@web120901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1364939728.22671.YahooMailNeo@web120901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1364997191.20025.YahooMailNeo@web160201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>


For anyone satisfied with less than sparkling cosmetics, a handyman's view 
of life and better things to do with 100 bucks, I would recommend a can of 
Rustoleum Satin black for $5 or so. Takes 15 minutes (to do) and turnaround 
time of a day (to dry). 

-- Ron






>________________________________
> From: shanti ramachandran <shantiram2000 at yahoo.com>
>To: Talkabout Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
>Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 5:55 PM
>Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi Cabinet refinishing.
> 
>
>Folks,
>
>
>In my quest for a perfectly restored Nakamichi including cosmetics of the deck's cover, (which many a times is pathetic at best bought from ebay) I
>happened to have some work done by a local artist who made my decks' sparkle with his magic.
>
>
>I am attaching a picture of my CR7 ( which was horribly scratched) for all to see. I can have this done for anyone interested for a $55 charge with shipping both ways paid by the buyer.( prepaid labels) The turn around time would be a week to two weeks after receipt.
>
>
>If interested, or with any questions please contact me off line at shantiram2000 at yahoo.com.
>
>
>Regards,
>
>
>Ram.
>
>
>========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>          Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
>========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>                        Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  3 15:53:11 2013
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 06:53:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi Cabinet refinishing.
In-Reply-To: <1364939728.22671.YahooMailNeo@web120901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1364939728.22671.YahooMailNeo@web120901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1364997191.20025.YahooMailNeo@web160201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>


For anyone satisfied with less than sparkling cosmetics, a handyman's view 
of life and better things to do with 100 bucks, I would recommend a can of 
Rustoleum Satin black for $5 or so. Takes 15 minutes (to do) and turnaround 
time of a day (to dry). 

-- Ron






>________________________________
> From: shanti ramachandran <shantiram2000 at yahoo.com>
>To: Talkabout Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
>Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 5:55 PM
>Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi Cabinet refinishing.
> 
>
>Folks,
>
>
>In my quest for a perfectly restored Nakamichi including cosmetics of the deck's cover, (which many a times is pathetic at best bought from ebay) I
>happened to have some work done by a local artist who made my decks' sparkle with his magic.
>
>
>I am attaching a picture of my CR7 ( which was horribly scratched) for all to see. I can have this done for anyone interested for a $55 charge with shipping both ways paid by the buyer.( prepaid labels) The turn around time would be a week to two weeks after receipt.
>
>
>If interested, or with any questions please contact me off line at shantiram2000 at yahoo.com.
>
>
>Regards,
>
>
>Ram.
>
>
>========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>          Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
>========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>                        Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
>Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  3 22:57:06 2013
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh)
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 06:57:06 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi Cabinet refinishing.
In-Reply-To: <1364997191.20025.YahooMailNeo@web160201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1364939728.22671.YahooMailNeo@web120901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<1364997191.20025.YahooMailNeo@web160201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <50EE1F40-8405-4CC0-9533-58DF18632B82@yahoo.com>

Or a bottle of Turtle's Carnauba Wax. Keeps everything in my garage and music room shiny! 

Best Regards, 
Bala Ganesh

On 3 Apr, 2013, at 11:53 PM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

> 
> For anyone satisfied with less than sparkling cosmetics, a handyman's view 
> of life and better things to do with 100 bucks, I would recommend a can of 
> Rustoleum Satin black for $5 or so. Takes 15 minutes (to do) and turnaround 
> time of a day (to dry). 
> 
> -- Ron
> 
> 
> 
> From: shanti ramachandran <shantiram2000 at yahoo.com>
> To: Talkabout Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 5:55 PM
> Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi Cabinet refinishing.
> 
> Folks,
> 
> In my quest for a perfectly restored Nakamichi including cosmetics of the deck's cover, (which many a times is pathetic at best bought from ebay) I
> happened to have some work done by a local artist who made my decks' sparkle with his magic.
> 
> I am attaching a picture of my CR7 ( which was horribly scratched) for all to see. I can have this done for anyone interested for a $55 charge with shipping both ways paid by the buyer.( prepaid labels) The turn around time would be a week to two weeks after receipt.
> 
> If interested, or with any questions please contact me off line at shantiram2000 at yahoo.com.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ram.
> 
> 
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>           Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>                         Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
> Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
> 
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>          Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>                        Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
> Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
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From mrm12000 at cableone.net  Thu Apr  4 01:23:07 2013
From: mrm12000 at cableone.net (mrm12000 at cableone.net)
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 16:23:07 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi Cabinet refinishing.
In-Reply-To: <50EE1F40-8405-4CC0-9533-58DF18632B82@yahoo.com>
References: <1364939728.22671.YahooMailNeo@web120901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<1364997191.20025.YahooMailNeo@web160201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<50EE1F40-8405-4CC0-9533-58DF18632B82@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAMwrFewCNaD8WvXopdzWH10VHM6nhf2jbiRE_+qJf=ZvzWbAnA@mail.gmail.com>

Even easier is Plexus, a plexiglas cleaner and polish. Puts a wet shine on
just about any smooth surface.

On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Or a bottle of Turtle's Carnauba Wax. Keeps everything in my garage and
> music room shiny!
>
> Best Regards,
> Bala Ganesh
>
> On 3 Apr, 2013, at 11:53 PM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> For anyone satisfied with less than sparkling cosmetics, a handyman's view
> of life and better things to do with 100 bucks, I would recommend a can of
> Rustoleum Satin black for $5 or so. Takes 15 minutes (to do) and
> turnaround
> time of a day (to dry).
>
> -- Ron
>
>
>
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* shanti ramachandran <shantiram2000 at yahoo.com>
> *To:* Talkabout Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 2, 2013 5:55 PM
> *Subject:* [naktalk] Nakamichi Cabinet refinishing.
>
> Folks,
>
> In my quest for a perfectly restored Nakamichi including cosmetics of the
> deck's cover, (which many a times is pathetic at best bought from ebay) I
> happened to have some work done by a local artist who made my decks'
> sparkle with his magic.
>
> I am attaching a picture of my CR7 ( which was horribly scratched) for all
> to see. I can have this done for anyone interested for a $55 charge with
> shipping both ways paid by the buyer.( prepaid labels) The turn around time
> would be a week to two weeks after receipt.
>
> If interested, or with any questions please contact me off line at
> shantiram2000 at yahoo.com.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ram.
>
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From brainsmartman at yahoo.com  Fri Apr  5 17:30:21 2013
From: brainsmartman at yahoo.com (c n)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 08:30:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 480 play and rec trouble PROBLEM RESOLVED!
Message-ID: <1365175821.85047.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

So ...
After I solved the problem with all tensions after I supplemented cooling radiators Q407 and Q414 (which otherwise I and replaced with other higher dissipated power transistors) after I replaced the idler roller, after we checked idler tension spring, after I externally powered reel motor, I finally found fault: TAPE COUNTER!!!!
  Yes, tape counter! On a careful examination of it, we found a pronounced wear on one of the gears inside, which led to his blocking as a result, which is operated directly by the spindle shut-off sensor, and it stopped him, resulting in stop cassette.
I noticed this because after entering stop, refuse to take FF ... Only after doing REW, PLAY or FF accept again.
So ... counter belt off .... flawless operation ...
This is it: who help me with a counter for 480????

With special thanks to Gerhard, who gave me fantastic support,
I wish you all the best ...

Cristian
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From willy at willyhermannservices.com  Fri Apr  5 19:09:43 2013
From: willy at willyhermannservices.com (Willy Hermann)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 10:09:43 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 480 play and rec trouble PROBLEM RESOLVED!
In-Reply-To: <1365175821.85047.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1365175821.85047.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAM9V8MdAWBzg+AE3G=JkK6J_FFir5xmXd86c1t0mGGzhebi+6g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Cristian -
I'm sure I can find you a tape counter for a 480.  After this project you
deserve it!
Willy


On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 8:30 AM, c n <brainsmartman at yahoo.com> wrote:

> So ...
> After I solved the problem with all tensions after I supplemented cooling
> radiators Q407 and Q414 (which otherwise I and replaced with other higher
> dissipated power transistors) after I replaced the idler roller, after we
> checked idler tension spring, after I externally powered reel motor, I
> finally found fault: TAPE COUNTER!!!!
>   Yes, tape counter! On a careful examination of it, we found a pronounced
> wear on one of the gears inside, which led to his blocking as a result, which
> is operated directly by the spindle shut-off sensor, and it stopped him,
> resulting in stop cassette.
> I noticed this because after entering stop, refuse to take FF ... Only after
> doing REW, PLAY or FF accept again.
> So ... counter belt off .... flawless operation ...
> This is it: who help me with a counter for 480????
>
> With special thanks to Gerhard, who gave me fantastic support,
> I wish you all the best ...
>
> Cristian
>
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From willy at willyhermannservices.com  Fri Apr  5 19:10:16 2013
From: willy at willyhermannservices.com (Willy Hermann)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 10:10:16 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 480 play and rec trouble PROBLEM RESOLVED!
In-Reply-To: <CAM9V8MdAWBzg+AE3G=JkK6J_FFir5xmXd86c1t0mGGzhebi+6g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1365175821.85047.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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Contact me off NakTalk - willy at willyhs.com


On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Willy Hermann <
willy at willyhermannservices.com> wrote:

> Hi Cristian -
> I'm sure I can find you a tape counter for a 480.  After this project you
> deserve it!
> Willy
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 8:30 AM, c n <brainsmartman at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> So ...
>> After I solved the problem with all tensions after I supplemented cooling
>> radiators Q407 and Q414 (which otherwise I and replaced with other higher
>> dissipated power transistors) after I replaced the idler roller, after we
>> checked idler tension spring, after I externally powered reel motor, I
>> finally found fault: TAPE COUNTER!!!!
>>   Yes, tape counter! On a careful examination of it, we found a
>> pronounced wear on one of the gears inside, which led to his blocking as
>> a result, which is operated directly by the spindle shut-off sensor, and
>> it stopped him, resulting in stop cassette.
>> I noticed this because after entering stop, refuse to take FF ... Only after
>> doing REW, PLAY or FF accept again.
>> So ... counter belt off .... flawless operation ...
>> This is it: who help me with a counter for 480????
>>
>> With special thanks to Gerhard, who gave me fantastic support,
>> I wish you all the best ...
>>
>> Cristian
>>
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From bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk  Fri Apr  5 19:36:13 2013
From: bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk (Ben Stratford)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 18:36:13 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 480 play and rec trouble PROBLEM RESOLVED!
In-Reply-To: <1365175821.85047.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1365175821.85047.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DUB401-EAS13157AF41A3D304B41CFFEA90DA0@phx.gbl>

I may be able to help, could you supply a photo?
Rgds ben

On 5 Apr 2013, at 17:21, "c n" <brainsmartman at yahoo.com> wrote:

> So ...
> After I solved the problem with all tensions after I supplemented cooling radiators Q407 and Q414 (which otherwise I and replaced with other higher dissipated power transistors) after I replaced the idler roller, after we checked idler tension spring, after I externally powered reel motor, I finally found fault: TAPE COUNTER!!!!
>   Yes, tape counter! On a careful examination of it, we found a pronounced wear on one of the gears inside, which led to his blocking as a result, which is operated directly by the spindle shut-off sensor, and it stopped him, resulting in stop cassette.
> I noticed this because after entering stop, refuse to take FF ... Only after doing REW, PLAY or FF accept again.
> So ... counter belt off .... flawless operation ...
> This is it: who help me with a counter for 480????
> 
> With special thanks to Gerhard, who gave me fantastic support,
> I wish you all the best ...
> 
> Cristian
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From tim.skorick at gmail.com  Fri Apr  5 19:43:54 2013
From: tim.skorick at gmail.com (Tim Skorick)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 12:43:54 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 480 play and rec trouble PROBLEM RESOLVED!
In-Reply-To: <CAM9V8MdAWBzg+AE3G=JkK6J_FFir5xmXd86c1t0mGGzhebi+6g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1365175821.85047.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<CAM9V8MdAWBzg+AE3G=JkK6J_FFir5xmXd86c1t0mGGzhebi+6g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJjaDDutAHyQ3bqb1-nEUNZEzT2bYN4WThuCM7DXPUF4ScGF2g@mail.gmail.com>

I might have a 480 sitting somewhere with a good tape counter, let me dig
around ...

-Tim


On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Willy Hermann <
willy at willyhermannservices.com> wrote:

> Hi Cristian -
> I'm sure I can find you a tape counter for a 480.  After this project you
> deserve it!
> Willy
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 8:30 AM, c n <brainsmartman at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> So ...
>> After I solved the problem with all tensions after I supplemented cooling
>> radiators Q407 and Q414 (which otherwise I and replaced with other higher
>> dissipated power transistors) after I replaced the idler roller, after we
>> checked idler tension spring, after I externally powered reel motor, I
>> finally found fault: TAPE COUNTER!!!!
>>   Yes, tape counter! On a careful examination of it, we found a
>> pronounced wear on one of the gears inside, which led to his blocking as
>> a result, which is operated directly by the spindle shut-off sensor, and
>> it stopped him, resulting in stop cassette.
>> I noticed this because after entering stop, refuse to take FF ... Only after
>> doing REW, PLAY or FF accept again.
>> So ... counter belt off .... flawless operation ...
>> This is it: who help me with a counter for 480????
>>
>> With special thanks to Gerhard, who gave me fantastic support,
>> I wish you all the best ...
>>
>> Cristian
>>
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From mstager at verizon.net  Fri Apr  5 19:53:53 2013
From: mstager at verizon.net (Marc Stager)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 13:53:53 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Selling some of my Naks
Message-ID: <0MKS0096FN1UDF60@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net>

About my Naks:

That MR-1 which I was selling for parts is fixed and working perfectly.
Looks nice, Recordings sound exactly the same as input.  For sale

I still have a Nakamichi 1000 II in beautiful cosmetic condition.
Front panel looks like new and the walnut case is nearly perfect.
   Mechanically it works fine but the electronics need servicing.
It records nicely and meter works on the left channel.
Does not record on the right channel. Meter does not move.
Plays weakly with some noise on the right.
No playback on the left. Right channel meter is good.  -
The problems can be fixed easily by replacing or repairing the 
plug-in cards, which I am looking for
But for now, For sale as is.

My 582 is in bad cosmetic condition but sounds beautiful, looking for 
a basket-case donor
to replace the case. and front panel.  After the facelift, it will be for sale.

My 682XX is in my home stereo, looks and plays flawlessly. Not for sale.

I also have a Sony Pro portable cassette machine, the remarkable 
little TC/WM-D6  - works
perfectly. For sale.

Thank you and best regards,
Marc Stager
) )  )    )       )              )
Stager Sound Systems,
New York City
http://stagersound.com/silver
tel:  212-595-4065
cel: 212-675-6000





From brainsmartman at yahoo.com  Fri Apr  5 21:41:41 2013
From: brainsmartman at yahoo.com (c n)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 12:41:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 480 play and rec trouble PROBLEM RESOLVED!
In-Reply-To: <CAJjaDDutAHyQ3bqb1-nEUNZEzT2bYN4WThuCM7DXPUF4ScGF2g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1365175821.85047.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<CAM9V8MdAWBzg+AE3G=JkK6J_FFir5xmXd86c1t0mGGzhebi+6g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJjaDDutAHyQ3bqb1-nEUNZEzT2bYN4WThuCM7DXPUF4ScGF2g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1365190901.64716.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

I owe you one! It would be great if you could help with this counter.
Waiting for a sign from you.

With all respect,
Cristian



________________________________
 From: Tim Skorick <tim.skorick at gmail.com>
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi 480 play and rec trouble PROBLEM RESOLVED!
 

I might have a 480 sitting somewhere with a good tape counter, let me dig around ...
 
-Tim



On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Willy Hermann <willy at willyhermannservices.com> wrote:

Hi Cristian -
>I'm sure I can find you a tape counter for a 480.  After this project you deserve it!
>Willy
>
>
>
>On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 8:30 AM, c n <brainsmartman at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>So ...
>>After I solved the problem with all tensions after I supplemented cooling radiators Q407 and Q414 (which otherwise I and replaced with other higher dissipated power transistors) after I replaced the idler roller, after we checked idler tension spring, after I externally powered reel motor, I finally found fault: TAPE COUNTER!!!!
>>  Yes, tape counter! On a careful examination of it, we found a pronounced wear on one of the gears inside, which led to his blocking as a result, which is operated directly by the spindle shut-off sensor, and it stopped him, resulting in stop cassette.
>>I noticed this because after entering stop, refuse to take FF ... Only after doing REW, PLAY or FF accept again.
>>So ... counter belt off .... flawless operation ...
>>This is it: who help me with a counter for 480????
>>
>>With special thanks to Gerhard, who gave me fantastic support,
>>I wish you all the best ...
>>
>>Cristian
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From angel9esoteric at gmail.com  Sun Apr  7 02:56:32 2013
From: angel9esoteric at gmail.com (MD)
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 20:56:32 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi Limited Cassette Deck 1,
	Receiver and CD Player 2 Silver components
Message-ID: <CAEo=m-W7RC9HPSZCgpRSHzkH68qAHj+OW_6XUBPvMBmR6yDdLw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, I finally decided to sell my Nak Limited 1 system ( Cassette Deck
1 silver, Receiver 1 and CD Player 2). All components are in excellent
condition.Receiver and CD Player are in good working condition but
cassette deck needs a new belt. Regards,M


From wheijke at xs4all.nl  Thu Apr 18 09:32:41 2013
From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 09:32:41 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] its quiet!
Message-ID: <0a0c2f7fa36ea2950ad77e16ef40f813.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>


Long time no message, and I get questions what happened to naktalk!

Is everyone happy listening?

Wouter

ps. I'm trying to get a OMS-7 back to life



From jimsoden at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 18 10:10:32 2013
From: jimsoden at yahoo.com (Jim Soden)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 01:10:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] its quiet!
In-Reply-To: <0a0c2f7fa36ea2950ad77e16ef40f813.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
References: <0a0c2f7fa36ea2950ad77e16ef40f813.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <1366272632.31661.YahooMailNeo@web161305.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Hi Wouter!

Long time, me no post! :-)

All my Naks are stored in boxes...flood, divorce, family deaths, more floods, unemployment, etc.

I am at my limit for stress! I want my Naks back up and running! I miss looking at all the glowing lights in my bedroom at night when I would listen to tapes and make recordings...1000ZXL, Dragons, CR-7A, 480s, 480Zs, etc.

Soon I hope to be back up and running and will be able to post something useful!

God bless everyone and thanks always and forever to you for the Naks Forum! :-)

Jim Soden
jimsoden at yahoo.com





>________________________________
> From: Wouter Heijke <wheijke at xs4all.nl>
>To: naktalk at naks.com 
>Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 3:32 AM
>Subject: [naktalk] its quiet!
> 
>
>
>Long time no message, and I get questions what happened to naktalk!
>
>Is everyone happy listening?
>
>Wouter
>
>ps. I'm trying to get a OMS-7 back to life
>
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From n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl  Thu Apr 18 10:22:55 2013
From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl (Ziggo)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 10:22:55 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] its quiet!
In-Reply-To: <0a0c2f7fa36ea2950ad77e16ef40f813.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
References: <0a0c2f7fa36ea2950ad77e16ef40f813.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <DE840DA3-3C4D-49FB-909E-01D8BF030128@ziggo.nl>

Hi Wouter,

Still listening to our Naks.

Best regards ,

Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

Op 18 apr. 2013 om 09:32 heeft Wouter Heijke <wheijke at xs4all.nl> het volgende geschreven:

> 
> Long time no message, and I get questions what happened to naktalk!
> 
> Is everyone happy listening?
> 
> Wouter
> 
> ps. I'm trying to get a OMS-7 back to life
> 
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From bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr  Thu Apr 18 10:27:25 2013
From: bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr (bb)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 10:27:25 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Looking for one silver recording knob for a 480
In-Reply-To: <0a0c2f7fa36ea2950ad77e16ef40f813.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
References: <0a0c2f7fa36ea2950ad77e16ef40f813.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <516FAE6D.40508@univ-rennes1.fr>

Hi everyone

Well, here is a new message: would someone have an "extra" knob (SILVER 
colour) for the recording linear pot of the 480 ?

Cheers
bernard

Le 18/04/2013 09:32, Wouter Heijke a écrit :
> Long time no message, and I get questions what happened to naktalk!
>
> Is everyone happy listening?
>
> Wouter
>
> ps. I'm trying to get a OMS-7 back to life
>
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From pbtanner at hotmail.com  Thu Apr 18 17:03:25 2013
From: pbtanner at hotmail.com (Peter Tanner)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 15:03:25 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] its quiet!
In-Reply-To: <DE840DA3-3C4D-49FB-909E-01D8BF030128@ziggo.nl>
References: <0a0c2f7fa36ea2950ad77e16ef40f813.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>,
	<DE840DA3-3C4D-49FB-909E-01D8BF030128@ziggo.nl>
Message-ID: <BLU173-W24D65F43DB84432A4F11ECDFCF0@phx.gbl>

So here is a new message as well. I have acquired a few metal tapes recently. However my 582 does not seem to erase them completely. I can't set the bias to 0 db either if the record level is set at 0db. The deck works very well with SX and EX tapes of all makes. Only ZX is giving me trouble. On my other deck, a 481Z, the tapes erase and record perfectly so the fault is not with the tapes. Any idea? Thanks.

Peter

> Subject: Re: [naktalk] its quiet!
> From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl
> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 10:22:55 +0200
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> 
> Hi Wouter,
> 
> Still listening to our Naks.
> 
> Best regards ,
> 
> Norman
> 
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
> 
> Op 18 apr. 2013 om 09:32 heeft Wouter Heijke <wheijke at xs4all.nl> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> > 
> > Long time no message, and I get questions what happened to naktalk!
> > 
> > Is everyone happy listening?
> > 
> > Wouter
> > 
> > ps. I'm trying to get a OMS-7 back to life
> > 
> > ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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From n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl  Thu Apr 18 18:20:15 2013
From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl (Ziggo)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 18:20:15 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] its quiet!
In-Reply-To: <BLU173-W24D65F43DB84432A4F11ECDFCF0@phx.gbl>
References: <0a0c2f7fa36ea2950ad77e16ef40f813.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
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Hi Peter,
Does your deck have the orange caps inside or are they already replaced?
Regards

Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

Op 18 apr. 2013 om 17:03 heeft Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com> het volgende geschreven:

> So here is a new message as well. I have acquired a few metal tapes recently. However my 582 does not seem to erase them completely. I can't set the bias to 0 db either if the record level is set at 0db. The deck works very well with SX and EX tapes of all makes. Only ZX is giving me trouble. On my other deck, a 481Z, the tapes erase and record perfectly so the fault is not with the tapes. Any idea? Thanks.
> 
> Peter
> 
> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] its quiet!
> > From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl
> > Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 10:22:55 +0200
> > To: naktalk at naks.com
> > 
> > Hi Wouter,
> > 
> > Still listening to our Naks.
> > 
> > Best regards ,
> > 
> > Norman
> > 
> > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
> > 
> > Op 18 apr. 2013 om 09:32 heeft Wouter Heijke <wheijke at xs4all.nl> het volgende geschreven:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Long time no message, and I get questions what happened to naktalk!
> > > 
> > > Is everyone happy listening?
> > > 
> > > Wouter
> > > 
> > > ps. I'm trying to get a OMS-7 back to life
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From paer.ericsson at blixtmail.se  Thu Apr 18 18:42:56 2013
From: paer.ericsson at blixtmail.se (=?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E4r_Ericsson?=)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 18:42:56 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Looking for one silver recording knob for a 480
References: <0a0c2f7fa36ea2950ad77e16ef40f813.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
	<516FAE6D.40508@univ-rennes1.fr>
Message-ID: <90A8A287F87E479A8A40C834F426A56A@superdator>

Hi Bernard.

I have a scrapped silver 480. Contact me of list and i will send a knob to 
you.

Regards Pelle.

drakoshenko at gmail.com


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From: "bb" <bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr>
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 10:27 AM
Subject: [naktalk] Looking for one silver recording knob for a 480


> Hi everyone
>
> Well, here is a new message: would someone have an "extra" knob (SILVER 
> colour) for the recording linear pot of the 480 ?
>
> Cheers
> bernard
>
> Le 18/04/2013 09:32, Wouter Heijke a écrit :
>> Long time no message, and I get questions what happened to naktalk!
>>
>> Is everyone happy listening?
>>
>> Wouter
>>
>> ps. I'm trying to get a OMS-7 back to life
>>
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 18 19:13:50 2013
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 10:13:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] its quiet!
In-Reply-To: <BLU173-W24D65F43DB84432A4F11ECDFCF0@phx.gbl>
References: <0a0c2f7fa36ea2950ad77e16ef40f813.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>,
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Most likely, your bias oscillator is on the weak side. It's possible all it needs is 
re-calibration. If you're equipped (and inclined) to repair, you may wish to follow
the service manual procedure for frequency adjustment and/or level (there is a 
resistor that can be shorted to increase output). If this doesn't do it, I would 
check the feedback caps (IIRC, both are 4700pF).

Good luck,

-- Ron






>________________________________
> From: Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com>
>To: naktalk naktalk <naktalk at naks.com> 
>Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 11:03 AM
>Subject: RE: [naktalk] its quiet!
> 
>
>
> 
>So here is a new message as well. I have acquired a few metal tapes recently. However my 582 does not seem to erase them completely. I can't set the bias to 0 db either if the record level is set at 0db. The deck works very well with SX and EX tapes of all makes. Only ZX is giving me trouble. On my other deck, a 481Z, the tapes erase and record perfectly so the fault is not with the tapes. Any idea? Thanks.
>
>Peter
>
>
>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] its quiet!
>> From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl
>> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 10:22:55 +0200
>> To: naktalk at naks.com
>> 
>> Hi Wouter,
>> 
>> Still listening to our Naks.
>> 
>> Best regards ,
>> 
>> Norman
>> 
>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>> 
>> Op 18 apr. 2013 om 09:32 heeft Wouter Heijke <wheijke at xs4all.nl> het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> > 
>> > Long time no message, and I get questions what happened to naktalk!
>> > 
>> > Is everyone happy listening?
>> > 
>> > Wouter
>> > 
>> > ps. I'm trying to get a OMS-7 back to life
>> > 
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From le.cyrus at gmail.com  Thu Apr 18 18:09:09 2013
From: le.cyrus at gmail.com (Cyrus)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 12:09:09 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] on another cassette note
Message-ID: <500C4569-D1AD-4BA6-ABF4-C5FCED8BB0C7@gmail.com>

greetings

Not a nak, but I just got hold of a Tascam 488mkII 8 track analog cassette mixer.
pretty clean condition, I also got a pack of akai GX60 tapes. Its my first hardware track recorder, I've been recording with
my computer for sometime, but now I am trying to use it as least as possible.

/Cy




From pbtanner at hotmail.com  Thu Apr 18 22:20:41 2013
From: pbtanner at hotmail.com (Peter Tanner)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 20:20:41 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] its quiet!
In-Reply-To: <273C3A57-4E74-4EF2-96A3-573F851E548C@ziggo.nl>
References: <0a0c2f7fa36ea2950ad77e16ef40f813.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>,
	<DE840DA3-3C4D-49FB-909E-01D8BF030128@ziggo.nl>,
	<BLU173-W24D65F43DB84432A4F11ECDFCF0@phx.gbl>,
	<273C3A57-4E74-4EF2-96A3-573F851E548C@ziggo.nl>
Message-ID: <BLU173-W6A57D52952F975854CC43DFCF0@phx.gbl>

The orange caps have already been replaced. The transistors are the original ones and as I have mentioned the deck erases and records very well for ES and SX tapes. Only the metal, ZX, is giving me trouble. It has been calibrated to the best of my knowledge. Playback head height and azimuth as per Nakamichi setting and the record head height and azimuth are set to the highest level with the help of the built in 400 hz and 15 khz tones. As for the resistors in the bias oscillator, yes, Ron, the manual mentions shorting one of them (there are two) but I am not clear what that means. How do you short a resistor? Disconnect it totally while in the record mode and then reconnect it? Or just bypass it altogether? Meaning connect the two points without a resistor at all? As you can see I am not an electronics expert but can learn along the way. Thanks

Peter   

Subject: Re: [naktalk] its quiet!
From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 18:20:15 +0200
To: naktalk at naks.com

Hi Peter,Does your deck have the orange caps inside or are they already replaced?Regards
Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
Op 18 apr. 2013 om 17:03 heeft Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com> het volgende geschreven:




So here is a new message as well. I have acquired a few metal tapes recently. However my 582 does not seem to erase them completely. I can't set the bias to 0 db either if the record level is set at 0db. The deck works very well with SX and EX tapes of all makes. Only ZX is giving me trouble. On my other deck, a 481Z, the tapes erase and record perfectly so the fault is not with the tapes. Any idea? Thanks.

Peter

> Subject: Re: [naktalk] its quiet!
> From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl
> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 10:22:55 +0200
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> 
> Hi Wouter,
> 
> Still listening to our Naks.
> 
> Best regards ,
> 
> Norman
> 
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
> 
> Op 18 apr. 2013 om 09:32 heeft Wouter Heijke <wheijke at xs4all.nl> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> > 
> > Long time no message, and I get questions what happened to naktalk!
> > 
> > Is everyone happy listening?
> > 
> > Wouter
> > 
> > ps. I'm trying to get a OMS-7 back to life
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From mrm12000 at cableone.net  Fri Apr 19 04:14:02 2013
From: mrm12000 at cableone.net (mrm12000 at cableone.net)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 19:14:02 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Tech for preamp?
Message-ID: <CAMwrFewe68KE2rhAOGFhwBvggo-XWkPWMB2ciY75JtSuiyruTg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Everyone,

I have a somewhat unusual high-end preamp that needs some service, and I'm
wondering if anyone has a recommendation for a good tech. It's solid state,
and the line stage sounds good (other than some intermittent spitting in
one channel, sort of like a bad tube), but the MC phono stage only works on
and off. Working examples of this preamp have sold on eBay for under $300,
so it doesn't make sense to put a lot of money into it, but if possible I'd
like to get it working like new again. Any suggestions?

Marc
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From fmccall at hotmail.com  Fri Apr 19 11:38:57 2013
From: fmccall at hotmail.com (Fred McCall)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 09:38:57 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] Tech for preamp?
In-Reply-To: <CAMwrFewe68KE2rhAOGFhwBvggo-XWkPWMB2ciY75JtSuiyruTg@mail.gmail.com>
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I recommend George Kay Labs. He was the design brain behind the New York auto labs Moscode 600  and he does high end repair and updates/upgrades. Do a search on Moscode 600 and you will get their contact info.




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 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 19:14:02 -0700
From: mrm12000 at cableone.net
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] Tech for preamp?

Hi Everyone, I have a somewhat unusual high-end preamp that needs some service, and I'm wondering if anyone has a recommendation for a good tech. It's solid state, and the line stage sounds good (other than some intermittent spitting in one channel, sort of like a bad tube), but the MC phono stage only works on and off. Working examples of this preamp have sold on eBay for under $300, so it doesn't make sense to put a lot of money into it, but if possible I'd like to get it working like new again. Any suggestions?
 Marc

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From perry.nak at comcast.net  Fri Apr 19 13:08:07 2013
From: perry.nak at comcast.net (Perry Esposito)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 07:08:07 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Weak erase of metal tapes
Message-ID: <E6FDD960-FC89-487F-8A15-705CD4510DDA@comcast.net>

I have found that every time a deck can erase Type I and II fine but can't erase IV completely it has been a weak erase head. You can try increasing current by shorting across the resistor with a small bit or wire lead and solder, which is free and easy, but what that seems to do is erase better but still not completely. On a hundred or so Naks I've worked on, the erase head on the standard transport is by far the most common I've had to replace. Maybe 6 or 7 so far. In fact, that is the main reason I buy junker LX-3s whenever I can.

Sent from my iPhone. 


From mrm12000 at cableone.net  Fri Apr 19 15:30:42 2013
From: mrm12000 at cableone.net (mrm12000 at cableone.net)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 06:30:42 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Tech for preamp?
In-Reply-To: <77578200-C801-477A-AEE5-CD0DA107325F@yahoo.com>
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It's a Kinergetics Research KPA-1. Dual mono with an MC phono stage and
"hysteresis correction" circuit -- a pair of phono cartridges mounted
inside the main chassis.

Marc


On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Marc,
>
> What sort of pre amp is it?
>
> Best Regards,
> Bala Ganesh
>
> On 19 Apr, 2013, at 12:14 PM, "mrm12000 at cableone.net" <
> mrm12000 at cableone.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > I have a somewhat unusual high-end preamp that needs some service, and
> I'm wondering if anyone has a recommendation for a good tech. It's solid
> state, and the line stage sounds good (other than some intermittent
> spitting in one channel, sort of like a bad tube), but the MC phono stage
> only works on and off. Working examples of this preamp have sold on eBay
> for under $300, so it doesn't make sense to put a lot of money into it, but
> if possible I'd like to get it working like new again. Any suggestions?
> >
> > Marc
> >
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From jmlevitz at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 19 16:50:51 2013
From: jmlevitz at yahoo.com (Jayson Levitz)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 07:50:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Tech for preamp?
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Marc, where are you located?

Jayson




________________________________
 From: "mrm12000 at cableone.net" <mrm12000 at cableone.net>
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 9:30 AM
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Tech for preamp?
 


It's a Kinergetics Research KPA-1. Dual mono with an MC phono stage and "hysteresis correction" circuit -- a pair of phono cartridges mounted inside the main chassis.
 
Marc



On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:


>Hi Marc,
>
>What sort of pre amp is it?
>
>Best Regards,
>Bala Ganesh
>
>On 19 Apr, 2013, at 12:14 PM, "mrm12000 at cableone.net" <mrm12000 at cableone.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> I have a somewhat unusual high-end preamp that needs some service, and I'm wondering if anyone has a recommendation for a good tech. It's solid state, and the line stage sounds good (other than some intermittent spitting in one channel, sort of like a bad tube), but the MC phono stage only works on and off. Working examples of this preamp have sold on eBay for under $300, so it doesn't make sense to put a lot of money into it, but if possible I'd like to get it working like new again. Any suggestions?
>>
>> Marc
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From pbtanner at hotmail.com  Sat Apr 20 12:01:43 2013
From: pbtanner at hotmail.com (Peter Tanner)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 10:01:43 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Weak erase of metal tapes
In-Reply-To: <57A79992-65FD-4014-B967-75385B0AB52B@comcast.net>
References: <E6FDD960-FC89-487F-8A15-705CD4510DDA@comcast.net>
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Thanks, Perry, Ron has suggested the same. But before I do that I'll try to replace the two transistors, 2SC945, and the two 4700 capacitors. The caps have been changed already but perhaps they are failing again. If I can source them that is. Same for the two resistors. I don't know what else can be wrong with or faulty in that bias oscillator. And as I've said I only have the metal tape problems with the 581 and 582. Although the 581, unlike the 582 erases them well enough it doesn't calibrate them properly either. My 481Z and a 482Z which is on loan right now erase and record on any type IV tapes. This issue has never surfaced before as I've only had two metal tapes in all the collection of tapes I have. But recently I've acquired about 20 or so TDK MA-X C 100's so now the metal capability is important.

Subject: Re: Weak erase of metal tapes
From: perry.nak at comcast.net
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 16:27:32 -0400
To: pbtanner at hotmail.com

Well you have point there, Peter, but to be honest, I have only found that on non Nak decks. I have a Yamaha K960 does similar to what you describe but since it is a 2 head single capstan, I never use it, now that I have so many top Naks. Poor or weak bias will prevent proper level calibration as well, and give overly bright tapes, so it is worth increasing the current per the manual by shorting the resistors as I described. The exact same bias signal that goes to the erase head also goes to the record head, so they are often related.  I have never owned a 480/580 series deck, but have 30 others and all do metal fine, but like you said, could be an issue with that series. Interesting post.

Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 19, 2013, at 3:49 PM, Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com> wrote:




The problem is not just erasure although that's the main one. This deck has never been able to calibrate properly on metal tapes. If the level is set at 0 the bias cannot be brought down from +5 db. The recordings are too bright. You can bring the level down to -6db in which case the bias can be brought down to 0 but the the level is too low. So either way, though it works, is not correct. My 58I does the same though it does erase well. Both decks are calibrated as best as they can be. I am beginning to think that Nakamichi touted these decks as metal capable but in fact they never were. At least not well. The Z models were the first ones that really did the job. I kind of like the 582 for all other tapes as it has monitoring capability but for metal, I guess I'll just have to use the 481Z which has probably better electronics. 

> Subject: Weak erase of metal tapes
> From: perry.nak at comcast.net
> Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 07:08:07 -0400
> CC: naktalk at naks.com
> To: pbtanner at hotmail.com
> 
> I have found that every time a deck can erase Type I and II fine but can't erase IV completely it has been a weak erase head. You can try increasing current by shorting across the resistor with a small bit or wire lead and solder, which is free and easy, but what that seems to do is erase better but still not completely. On a hundred or so Naks I've worked on, the erase head on the standard transport is by far the most common I've had to replace. Maybe 6 or 7 so far. In fact, that is the main reason I buy junker LX-3s whenever I can.
> 
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From bglosi at tilkoblet.net  Tue Apr 23 12:04:57 2013
From: bglosi at tilkoblet.net (Birger Glosimot)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:04:57 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Problems with ZX-7
In-Reply-To: <BLU173-W26480D32E8AEEBD1C9AE0EDFC90@phx.gbl>
References: <E6FDD960-FC89-487F-8A15-705CD4510DDA@comcast.net><BLU173-W36C5756E86F02F26829547DFC80@phx.gbl>,
	<57A79992-65FD-4014-B967-75385B0AB52B@comcast.net>
	<BLU173-W26480D32E8AEEBD1C9AE0EDFC90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <880E12DDC3814D6ABC4B596A5BBAE2AA@Birger>

I have just received a ZX-7. When I got it, it had the cassette mecanisme pushed into yhe cabinett, but with some work I was able to repossision it. But when I try to calibrate, the level will not go to more than approx -30db less on left than right. Ofcourse recorded sound is dull. Also the azimuth will not adjust properly. Seems the record head moves, but only thre right light will indicate and that ofcourse meens I should adjust left. When I reach the end of leftwards adjustment, sometimes the center red bar will light and flicker a little, but stabilize again at the right green possision.

Any good advices?
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From willy at willyhermannservices.com  Tue Apr 23 17:36:39 2013
From: willy at willyhermannservices.com (Willy Hermann)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 08:36:39 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Problems with ZX-7
In-Reply-To: <880E12DDC3814D6ABC4B596A5BBAE2AA@Birger>
References: <E6FDD960-FC89-487F-8A15-705CD4510DDA@comcast.net>
	<BLU173-W36C5756E86F02F26829547DFC80@phx.gbl>
	<57A79992-65FD-4014-B967-75385B0AB52B@comcast.net>
	<BLU173-W26480D32E8AEEBD1C9AE0EDFC90@phx.gbl>
	<880E12DDC3814D6ABC4B596A5BBAE2AA@Birger>
Message-ID: <CAM9V8McRiwBEPDry6zSD1qnZAV9j+UZ6bKvtAJn2uNF=0jGg6Q@mail.gmail.com>

The flat sliding inner/outer cable (Bowden cable?) which transfers the
mechanical turning of the azimuth knob to the wedge below the record head
mounting plate usually gets damaged when the left hand transport mounts get
broken.  Remove that and do your best to flatten it out, make sure its
operation is smooth, then re-install.  You also will need to re-align both
the play and record heads, then the electronics as per the instructions in
the service manual.
Best of luck.
Willy


On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 3:04 AM, Birger Glosimot <bglosi at tilkoblet.net>wrote:

> **
> I have just received a ZX-7. When I got it, it had the cassette mecanisme
> pushed into yhe cabinett, but with some work I was able to repossision it.
> But when I try to calibrate, the level will not go to more than approx
> -30db less on left than right. Ofcourse recorded sound is dull. Also the
> azimuth will not adjust properly. Seems the record head moves, but only
> thre right light will indicate and that ofcourse meens I should adjust
> left. When I reach the end of leftwards adjustment, sometimes the center
> red bar will light and flicker a little, but stabilize again at the right
> green possision.
>
> Any good advices?
>
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From bglosi at tilkoblet.net  Tue Apr 23 18:31:56 2013
From: bglosi at tilkoblet.net (Birger Glosimot)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 18:31:56 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Problems with ZX-7
In-Reply-To: <CAM9V8McRiwBEPDry6zSD1qnZAV9j+UZ6bKvtAJn2uNF=0jGg6Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E6FDD960-FC89-487F-8A15-705CD4510DDA@comcast.net><BLU173-W36C5756E86F02F26829547DFC80@phx.gbl><57A79992-65FD-4014-B967-75385B0AB52B@comcast.net><BLU173-W26480D32E8AEEBD1C9AE0EDFC90@phx.gbl><880E12DDC3814D6ABC4B596A5BBAE2AA@Birger>
	<CAM9V8McRiwBEPDry6zSD1qnZAV9j+UZ6bKvtAJn2uNF=0jGg6Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EF36AAA1BEA84A21B3B97ACA25CDAAF1@Birger>

Thank you Willy. I will try that. may take a week before I can, but will let know.
Birger
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Willy Hermann 
  To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 5:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [naktalk] Problems with ZX-7


  The flat sliding inner/outer cable (Bowden cable?) which transfers the mechanical turning of the azimuth knob to the wedge below the record head mounting plate usually gets damaged when the left hand transport mounts get broken.  Remove that and do your best to flatten it out, make sure its operation is smooth, then re-install.  You also will need to re-align both the play and record heads, then the electronics as per the instructions in the service manual.
  Best of luck.
  Willy



  On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 3:04 AM, Birger Glosimot <bglosi at tilkoblet.net> wrote:

    I have just received a ZX-7. When I got it, it had the cassette mecanisme pushed into yhe cabinett, but with some work I was able to repossision it. But when I try to calibrate, the level will not go to more than approx -30db less on left than right. Ofcourse recorded sound is dull. Also the azimuth will not adjust properly. Seems the record head moves, but only thre right light will indicate and that ofcourse meens I should adjust left. When I reach the end of leftwards adjustment, sometimes the center red bar will light and flicker a little, but stabilize again at the right green possision.

    Any good advices?

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From upshaw937 at msn.com  Wed Apr 24 05:13:23 2013
From: upshaw937 at msn.com (FRANCIS UPSHAW)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 03:13:23 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] Maxell MX90 for sale
Message-ID: <BLU177-W208A16B3E8F3A6D6B285AAF0B50@phx.gbl>




Box of ten unopened Maxell MX90 TypeIV metal tapes
would like to get $100 or $10 each

 		 	   		  
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From perry.nak at comcast.net  Wed Apr 24 13:45:09 2013
From: perry.nak at comcast.net (Perry Esposito)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 07:45:09 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Problems with ZX-7
Message-ID: <B0B3304F-0F2C-47B2-96D9-A61F87ABEAF9@comcast.net>

As Willy said this Is often related to the Bowden cable, sometimes preventing the head assembly from moving all the way up. Before you disconnect the bowden cable, try hitting play or record, then give the underside of the head carriage a little nudge up and see if it goes a little farther up, and suddenly works as it should. Even a movement of 3mm is enough to cause exactly what you describe. Sometimes that impact causes the small roller bearing to indent the plastic race.

Sent from my iPhone


From charles at njau.se  Wed Apr 24 16:24:30 2013
From: charles at njau.se (Charles A Njau)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:24:30 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Maxell MX90 for sale
In-Reply-To: <BLU177-W208A16B3E8F3A6D6B285AAF0B50@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU177-W208A16B3E8F3A6D6B285AAF0B50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <47327E06-DA54-4683-BA24-58CEDE064D8E@njau.se>

I would like to buy your tapes!

Thanks!

Regards,

Charles

24 apr 2013 kl. 05.13 skrev FRANCIS UPSHAW:

> Box of ten unopened Maxell MX90 TypeIV metal tapes
> would like to get $100 or $10 each
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From earthrite at gn.apc.org  Wed Apr 24 17:05:47 2013
From: earthrite at gn.apc.org (Narada)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:05:47 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Testing if I can still post
In-Reply-To: <201304241001.r3OA06gk001200@zxe.naks.com>
References: <201304241001.r3OA06gk001200@zxe.naks.com>
Message-ID: <E54558C4-791A-4210-BE8E-BF9BFF0FCFD1@gn.apc.org>

Hello Chaps and lady!

just testing

been here for years

seem to be unable to post

and the 670 needs a service

ian

Scotland


From n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl  Thu Apr 25 10:19:56 2013
From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl (Ziggo)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 10:19:56 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Testing if I can still post
In-Reply-To: <E54558C4-791A-4210-BE8E-BF9BFF0FCFD1@gn.apc.org>
References: <201304241001.r3OA06gk001200@zxe.naks.com>
	<E54558C4-791A-4210-BE8E-BF9BFF0FCFD1@gn.apc.org>
Message-ID: <8888B47B-D0C7-45EE-A6D9-036641E90719@ziggo.nl>

Hi 
Welcome

Best regards

Norma

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

Op 24 apr. 2013 om 17:05 heeft Narada <earthrite at gn.apc.org> het volgende geschreven:

> Hello Chaps and lady!
> 
> just testing
> 
> been here for years
> 
> seem to be unable to post
> 
> and the 670 needs a service
> 
> ian
> 
> Scotland
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From le.cyrus at gmail.com  Thu Apr 25 11:06:08 2013
From: le.cyrus at gmail.com (Cyrus)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 05:06:08 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
Message-ID: <A7FF57FC-B1EE-45CD-A202-AC7843E49546@gmail.com>



hi naks,

does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40 bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..
she doesn't have any reels to check it.
pros or cons? worth the risk?

/Cy




From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 25 12:33:22 2013
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 20:33:22 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
In-Reply-To: <A7FF57FC-B1EE-45CD-A202-AC7843E49546@gmail.com>
References: <A7FF57FC-B1EE-45CD-A202-AC7843E49546@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7677D1BD-AFDE-4B4F-BD7A-715C1FF48570@yahoo.com>

Go for it. The T34 is a solid deck that delivers great Tascam performance. It's a simple deck that's built for heavy duty performance. There are a few seasoned Teac veterans I can direct you. PM me. 

Cheers 

Sent from my iPhone

On 25/04/2013, at 7:06 PM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> hi naks,
> 
> does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
> My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40 bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..
> she doesn't have any reels to check it.
> pros or cons? worth the risk?
> 
> /Cy
> 
> 
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From luis at peromarta.org  Thu Apr 25 13:49:42 2013
From: luis at peromarta.org (Luis Peromarta)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:49:42 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Service Manual
Message-ID: <EE63FADA-3EE7-40B8-BAB9-659E5DE0C5A4@peromarta.org>

Dear friends

I need a 480Z service manual. Anyone has a copy somewhere ?

There is none in the wiki, and 481Z 482Z are somewhat different. Any ideas ?

Thanks and best regards, LP


Sent from iPad. Pls excuse typos.


From fgiddi at windstream.net  Thu Apr 25 12:44:49 2013
From: fgiddi at windstream.net (Francis Giddings)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 06:44:49 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
In-Reply-To: <A7FF57FC-B1EE-45CD-A202-AC7843E49546@gmail.com>
References: <A7FF57FC-B1EE-45CD-A202-AC7843E49546@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <51790921.7040302@windstream.net>

On 4/25/2013 5:06 AM, Cyrus wrote:
>
> hi naks,
>
> does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
> My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40 bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..
> she doesn't have any reels to check it.
> pros or cons? worth the risk?
>
> /Cy
>
>
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BUY IT!


From fgiddi at windstream.net  Thu Apr 25 12:46:21 2013
From: fgiddi at windstream.net (Francis Giddings)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 06:46:21 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
In-Reply-To: <A7FF57FC-B1EE-45CD-A202-AC7843E49546@gmail.com>
References: <A7FF57FC-B1EE-45CD-A202-AC7843E49546@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5179097D.5070004@windstream.net>

On 4/25/2013 5:06 AM, Cyrus wrote:
>
> hi naks,
>
> does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
> My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40 bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..
> she doesn't have any reels to check it.
> pros or cons? worth the risk?
>
> /Cy
>
>
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A reel motor from that deck sells for more than $40.00, plus I will 
double your money plus shipping if you are interested.

Fran


From daniel.botelho at gmail.com  Thu Apr 25 13:26:14 2013
From: daniel.botelho at gmail.com (Daniel Botelho)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 07:26:14 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
In-Reply-To: <7677D1BD-AFDE-4B4F-BD7A-715C1FF48570@yahoo.com>
References: <A7FF57FC-B1EE-45CD-A202-AC7843E49546@gmail.com>
	<7677D1BD-AFDE-4B4F-BD7A-715C1FF48570@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEwmrs4TOoNWsiX0eHsOEpbc9ks0MbXnUhMrZ2nUDnrHOxnBHg@mail.gmail.com>

Yes!  Take it...parts are aplenty and it's relatively easy to maintain.

I would go for it too, even with shipping.  Recordings sound GREAT on a
reel to reel.  :)


On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Go for it. The T34 is a solid deck that delivers great Tascam performance.
> It's a simple deck that's built for heavy duty performance. There are a few
> seasoned Teac veterans I can direct you. PM me.
>
> Cheers
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 25/04/2013, at 7:06 PM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > hi naks,
> >
> > does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
> > My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40
> bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..
> > she doesn't have any reels to check it.
> > pros or cons? worth the risk?
> >
> > /Cy
> >
> >
> >
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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 25 14:27:22 2013
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 22:27:22 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] Service Manual
In-Reply-To: <EE63FADA-3EE7-40B8-BAB9-659E5DE0C5A4@peromarta.org>
References: <EE63FADA-3EE7-40B8-BAB9-659E5DE0C5A4@peromarta.org>
Message-ID: <C77560AC-CD4C-4AD9-B360-43A77734CCB0@yahoo.com>

LP, 

File sent. 

Best Regards, 
Bala Ganesh

On 25/04/2013, at 9:49 PM, Luis Peromarta <luis at peromarta.org> wrote:

> Dear friends
> 
> I need a 480Z service manual. Anyone has a copy somewhere ?
> 
> There is none in the wiki, and 481Z 482Z are somewhat different. Any ideas ?
> 
> Thanks and best regards, LP
> 
> 
> Sent from iPad. Pls excuse typos.
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From luis at peromarta.org  Thu Apr 25 16:30:40 2013
From: luis at peromarta.org (Luis Peromarta)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 16:30:40 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Service Manual
In-Reply-To: <C77560AC-CD4C-4AD9-B360-43A77734CCB0@yahoo.com>
References: <EE63FADA-3EE7-40B8-BAB9-659E5DE0C5A4@peromarta.org>
	<C77560AC-CD4C-4AD9-B360-43A77734CCB0@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <78C1205E-E1A3-45C3-9A66-31E3936433FC@peromarta.org>

Email? Dropbox?

Sent from iPhone. Pls excuse typos.

El 25/04/2013, a las 14:27, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> escribió:

> LP, 
> 
> File sent. 
> 
> Best Regards, 
> Bala Ganesh
> 
> On 25/04/2013, at 9:49 PM, Luis Peromarta <luis at peromarta.org> wrote:
> 
>> Dear friends
>> 
>> I need a 480Z service manual. Anyone has a copy somewhere ?
>> 
>> There is none in the wiki, and 481Z 482Z are somewhat different. Any ideas ?
>> 
>> Thanks and best regards, LP
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from iPad. Pls excuse typos.
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From willy at willyhermannservices.com  Thu Apr 25 17:28:58 2013
From: willy at willyhermannservices.com (Willy Hermann)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 08:28:58 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Service Manual
In-Reply-To: <EE63FADA-3EE7-40B8-BAB9-659E5DE0C5A4@peromarta.org>
References: <EE63FADA-3EE7-40B8-BAB9-659E5DE0C5A4@peromarta.org>
Message-ID: <CAM9V8Md+CrC4FiSsSAQjwHFmnsq57AziWjsrJ4Uz04BTkpxe0A@mail.gmail.com>

I can scan mine if nobody else has one - but I won't be able to get to it
until middle of next week.
Willy


On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:49 AM, Luis Peromarta <luis at peromarta.org> wrote:

> Dear friends
>
> I need a 480Z service manual. Anyone has a copy somewhere ?
>
> There is none in the wiki, and 481Z 482Z are somewhat different. Any ideas
> ?
>
> Thanks and best regards, LP
>
>
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From le.cyrus at gmail.com  Thu Apr 25 14:24:05 2013
From: le.cyrus at gmail.com (Cyrus)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 08:24:05 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Service Manual
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would a 480 SM do?


On Apr 25, 2013, at 7:49 AM, Luis Peromarta wrote:

> Dear friends
> 
> I need a 480Z service manual. Anyone has a copy somewhere ?
> 
> There is none in the wiki, and 481Z 482Z are somewhat different. Any ideas ?
> 
> Thanks and best regards, LP
> 
> 
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From icmllc at gmail.com  Thu Apr 25 16:20:05 2013
From: icmllc at gmail.com (Ashvin Srivastava)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 09:20:05 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
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Make sure unit is double boxed. The spindles are protected.
I own a lot of R2R's.
Quite a few were destroyed in shipping.

Ashvin

On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Daniel Botelho <daniel.botelho at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes!  Take it...parts are aplenty and it's relatively easy to maintain.  
> 
> I would go for it too, even with shipping.  Recordings sound GREAT on a reel to reel.  :)
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Go for it. The T34 is a solid deck that delivers great Tascam performance. It's a simple deck that's built for heavy duty performance. There are a few seasoned Teac veterans I can direct you. PM me.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 25/04/2013, at 7:06 PM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >
>> >
>> > hi naks,
>> >
>> > does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
>> > My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40 bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..
>> > she doesn't have any reels to check it.
>> > pros or cons? worth the risk?
>> >
>> > /Cy
>> >
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From luis at peromarta.org  Thu Apr 25 18:37:22 2013
From: luis at peromarta.org (Luis Peromarta)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 18:37:22 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Service Manual
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Thank you all. The 480 is already available on the wiki, as well as 481Z and 482Z. 

Willy let's wait a couple days see if it shows up. If not a scan would be fantastic. 



Sent from iPhone. Pls excuse typos.

El 25/04/2013, a las 14:24, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> escribió:

> would a 480 SM do?
> 
> 
> On Apr 25, 2013, at 7:49 AM, Luis Peromarta wrote:
> 
>> Dear friends
>> 
>> I need a 480Z service manual. Anyone has a copy somewhere ?
>> 
>> There is none in the wiki, and 481Z 482Z are somewhat different. Any ideas ?
>> 
>> Thanks and best regards, LP
>> 
>> 
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From bglosi at tilkoblet.net  Thu Apr 25 17:50:52 2013
From: bglosi at tilkoblet.net (Birger Glosimot)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 17:50:52 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Service Manual
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There is a service manual for 480 on hifiengine.com
Can that one help?

BR
Birger
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  I can scan mine if nobody else has one - but I won't be able to get to it until middle of next week.
  Willy



  On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:49 AM, Luis Peromarta <luis at peromarta.org> wrote:

    Dear friends

    I need a 480Z service manual. Anyone has a copy somewhere ?

    There is none in the wiki, and 481Z 482Z are somewhat different. Any ideas ?

    Thanks and best regards, LP


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From le.cyrus at gmail.com  Thu Apr 25 18:18:05 2013
From: le.cyrus at gmail.com (Cyrus)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 12:18:05 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
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Tempting, I will let you know.


On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:46 AM, Francis Giddings wrote:

> On 4/25/2013 5:06 AM, Cyrus wrote:
>> 
>> hi naks,
>> 
>> does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
>> My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40 bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..
>> she doesn't have any reels to check it.
>> pros or cons? worth the risk?
>> 
>> /Cy
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> A reel motor from that deck sells for more than $40.00, plus I will double your money plus shipping if you are interested.
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From le.cyrus at gmail.com  Thu Apr 25 19:22:29 2013
From: le.cyrus at gmail.com (Cyrus)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:22:29 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
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from what i am told it looks like its in good condition, motors work, lights come on.
physical appearance is good. I think I will go for it.

unfortunately I don't have any reels. Does anyone know a good type / brand of reel and 
where to get em?

double boxing is a good idea

/Cy


On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Ashvin Srivastava wrote:

> Make sure unit is double boxed. The spindles are protected.
> I own a lot of R2R's.
> Quite a few were destroyed in shipping.
> 
> Ashvin
> 
> On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Daniel Botelho <daniel.botelho at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yes!  Take it...parts are aplenty and it's relatively easy to maintain.  
>> 
>> I would go for it too, even with shipping.  Recordings sound GREAT on a reel to reel.  :)
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Go for it. The T34 is a solid deck that delivers great Tascam performance. It's a simple deck that's built for heavy duty performance. There are a few seasoned Teac veterans I can direct you. PM me.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 25/04/2013, at 7:06 PM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >
>> >
>> > hi naks,
>> >
>> > does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
>> > My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40 bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..
>> > she doesn't have any reels to check it.
>> > pros or cons? worth the risk?
>> >
>> > /Cy
>> >
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From daniel.botelho at gmail.com  Thu Apr 25 19:30:21 2013
From: daniel.botelho at gmail.com (Daniel Botelho)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:30:21 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
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Very good advice. Hence the reason I don't ship R2R units.  :(

If it is being shipped, use the original packaging and/or use lots and lots
of bubblewrap.  LOTS!

Double corrugated boxes will help keep the deck protected.

D


On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Ashvin Srivastava <icmllc at gmail.com>wrote:

> Make sure unit is double boxed. The spindles are protected.
> I own a lot of R2R's.
> Quite a few were destroyed in shipping.
>
> Ashvin
>
> On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Daniel Botelho <daniel.botelho at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Yes!  Take it...parts are aplenty and it's relatively easy to maintain.
>
> I would go for it too, even with shipping.  Recordings sound GREAT on a
> reel to reel.  :)
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Go for it. The T34 is a solid deck that delivers great Tascam
>> performance. It's a simple deck that's built for heavy duty performance.
>> There are a few seasoned Teac veterans I can direct you. PM me.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 25/04/2013, at 7:06 PM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > hi naks,
>> >
>> > does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
>> > My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40
>> bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..
>> > she doesn't have any reels to check it.
>> > pros or cons? worth the risk?
>> >
>> > /Cy
>> >
>> >
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From le.cyrus at gmail.com  Thu Apr 25 19:32:14 2013
From: le.cyrus at gmail.com (Cyrus)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:32:14 -0400
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Is there any tests she can perform to c if its working, other than test the actual recording  of the reels since she doesn't have any?
Maybe test the inputs on it and meters?


On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Ashvin Srivastava wrote:

> Make sure unit is double boxed. The spindles are protected.
> I own a lot of R2R's.
> Quite a few were destroyed in shipping.
> 
> Ashvin
> 
> On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Daniel Botelho <daniel.botelho at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yes!  Take it...parts are aplenty and it's relatively easy to maintain.  
>> 
>> I would go for it too, even with shipping.  Recordings sound GREAT on a reel to reel.  :)
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Go for it. The T34 is a solid deck that delivers great Tascam performance. It's a simple deck that's built for heavy duty performance. There are a few seasoned Teac veterans I can direct you. PM me.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 25/04/2013, at 7:06 PM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >
>> >
>> > hi naks,
>> >
>> > does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
>> > My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40 bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..
>> > she doesn't have any reels to check it.
>> > pros or cons? worth the risk?
>> >
>> > /Cy
>> >
>> >
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From rkrause at multiplan.com.br  Thu Apr 25 20:21:45 2013
From: rkrause at multiplan.com.br (Rodrigo Krause)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 18:21:45 +0000
Subject: RES: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
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E aí Daniel, conseguiu consertar a Dragon?
Abs.

Rodrigo

De: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] Em nome de Daniel Botelho
Enviada em: quinta-feira, 25 de abril de 2013 08:26
Para: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Assunto: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel

Yes!  Take it...parts are aplenty and it's relatively easy to maintain.

I would go for it too, even with shipping.  Recordings sound GREAT on a reel to reel.  :)

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com<mailto:bg3009 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
Go for it. The T34 is a solid deck that delivers great Tascam performance. It's a simple deck that's built for heavy duty performance. There are a few seasoned Teac veterans I can direct you. PM me.

Cheers

Sent from my iPhone

On 25/04/2013, at 7:06 PM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com<mailto:le.cyrus at gmail.com>> wrote:

>
>
> hi naks,
>
> does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
> My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40 bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..
> she doesn't have any reels to check it.
> pros or cons? worth the risk?
>
> /Cy
>
>
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From luis at peromarta.org  Thu Apr 25 21:50:35 2013
From: luis at peromarta.org (Luis Peromarta)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 21:50:35 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Service Manual
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480 is available on the wiki. Thanks anyway!

Sent from iPhone. Pls excuse typos.

El 25/04/2013, a las 17:50, "Birger Glosimot" <bglosi at tilkoblet.net> escribió:

> There is a service manual for 480 on hifiengine.com
> Can that one help?
>  
> BR
> Birger
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> I can scan mine if nobody else has one - but I won't be able to get to it until middle of next week.
> Willy
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:49 AM, Luis Peromarta <luis at peromarta.org> wrote:
>> Dear friends
>> 
>> I need a 480Z service manual. Anyone has a copy somewhere ?
>> 
>> There is none in the wiki, and 481Z 482Z are somewhat different. Any ideas ?
>> 
>> Thanks and best regards, LP
>> 
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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 26 00:38:49 2013
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 08:38:49 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
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You could put in a signal to test the meters and probably pop some old tape to see if records or plays back. But the deck would still need a full over. You can also get it setup for a particular tape, one that is still in production. Once you've done that, you'd be amazed how this machine can sing. 



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On 26/04/2013, at 3:32 AM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:

> Is there any tests she can perform to c if its working, other than test the actual recording  of the reels since she doesn't have any?
> Maybe test the inputs on it and meters?
> 
> 
> On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Ashvin Srivastava wrote:
> 
>> Make sure unit is double boxed. The spindles are protected.
>> I own a lot of R2R's.
>> Quite a few were destroyed in shipping.
>> 
>> Ashvin
>> 
>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Daniel Botelho <daniel.botelho at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes!  Take it...parts are aplenty and it's relatively easy to maintain.  
>>> 
>>> I would go for it too, even with shipping.  Recordings sound GREAT on a reel to reel.  :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Go for it. The T34 is a solid deck that delivers great Tascam performance. It's a simple deck that's built for heavy duty performance. There are a few seasoned Teac veterans I can direct you. PM me.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On 25/04/2013, at 7:06 PM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > hi naks,
>>>> >
>>>> > does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
>>>> > My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40 bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..
>>>> > she doesn't have any reels to check it.
>>>> > pros or cons? worth the risk?
>>>> >
>>>> > /Cy
>>>> >
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From bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr  Fri Apr 26 09:20:28 2013
From: bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr (bb)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 09:20:28 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Service Manual
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I would be interested as well in the 480 Z SM.

Thanks
Bernard


Le 25/04/2013 17:28, Willy Hermann a écrit :
> I can scan mine if nobody else has one - but I won't be able to get to 
> it until middle of next week.
> Willy
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:49 AM, Luis Peromarta <luis at peromarta.org 
> <mailto:luis at peromarta.org>> wrote:
>
>     Dear friends
>
>     I need a 480Z service manual. Anyone has a copy somewhere ?
>
>     There is none in the wiki, and 481Z 482Z are somewhat different.
>     Any ideas ?
>
>     Thanks and best regards, LP
>
>
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From rkrause at multiplan.com.br  Thu Apr 25 22:17:09 2013
From: rkrause at multiplan.com.br (Rodrigo Krause)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 20:17:09 +0000
Subject: RES: [naktalk] Service Manual
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I`ve just done that. I downloaded a manual from HiFiEngine and sent it to Luis. I´m just waiting to hear from him if it was what he needed.
Best regards,

Rodrigo

De: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] Em nome de Birger Glosimot
Enviada em: quinta-feira, 25 de abril de 2013 12:51
Para: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Assunto: Re: [naktalk] Service Manual

There is a service manual for 480 on hifiengine.com
Can that one help?

BR
Birger
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To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks<mailto:naktalk at naks.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Service Manual

I can scan mine if nobody else has one - but I won't be able to get to it until middle of next week.
Willy

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:49 AM, Luis Peromarta <luis at peromarta.org<mailto:luis at peromarta.org>> wrote:
Dear friends

I need a 480Z service manual. Anyone has a copy somewhere ?

There is none in the wiki, and 481Z 482Z are somewhat different. Any ideas ?

Thanks and best regards, LP


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From uraldurusu at ttmail.com  Thu Apr 25 23:28:44 2013
From: uraldurusu at ttmail.com (Ural Durusu)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 21:28:44 +0000
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I am usıng RMG tapes with my Technics RS 1500 and I have no problem. Ural
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From wotbob01 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 25 23:50:52 2013
From: wotbob01 at yahoo.com (Bob Naylor)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:50:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
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Just my opinion but I like Maxell UD, or Maxell XL1. I've heard a lot of good about Synergy (sp?) but I've not tried them.Bob

--- On Thu, 4/25/13, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Thursday, April 25, 2013, 10:22 AM

from what i am told it looks like its in good condition, motors work, lights come on.physical appearance is good. I think I will go for it.
unfortunately I don't have any reels. Does anyone know a good type / brand of reel and where to get em?
double boxing is a good idea
/Cy

On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Ashvin Srivastava wrote:
Make sure unit is double boxed. The spindles are protected.I own a lot of R2R's.Quite a few were destroyed in shipping.

Ashvin
On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Daniel Botelho <daniel.botelho at gmail.com> wrote:

Yes!  Take it...parts are aplenty and it's relatively easy to maintain.  

I would go for it too, even with shipping.  Recordings sound GREAT on a reel to reel.  :)



On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:

Go for it. The T34 is a solid deck that delivers great Tascam performance. It's a simple deck that's built for heavy duty performance. There are a few seasoned Teac veterans I can direct you. PM me.



Cheers



Sent from my iPhone



On 25/04/2013, at 7:06 PM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:



>

>

> hi naks,

>

> does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?

> My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40 bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..

> she doesn't have any reels to check it.

> pros or cons? worth the risk?

>

> /Cy

>

>

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From rkrause at multiplan.com.br  Thu Apr 25 23:51:04 2013
From: rkrause at multiplan.com.br (Rodrigo Krause)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 21:51:04 +0000
Subject: RES: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
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Good decision: reel to reel decks are extremely reliable and sound really good. I´m trying to bring back to life two Akai decks, both GX365D, three head, three motors (but no high bias tape adjustment other than SRT - special range tapes).
Personally, I´d recommend that you look up on eBay for some Maxell or TDK tapes, just to name a few quality brands. Do a little research to find out (I don´t recall right now) the best options in terms of tape quality (high bias) and don´t buy tapes too long. I mean buy anything 1800 or 2400 feet long. There´s a 3600 inch tape that is supposed to provide longer listening hours, but the tape is thinner and could potentially break or warp up.
As for the deck you plan to buy, maybe the first best thing to do is to replace the rubber belts (see Fred Marrs´website).
Best of lucks,

Rodrigo

De: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] Em nome de Cyrus
Enviada em: quinta-feira, 25 de abril de 2013 14:22
Para: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Assunto: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel

from what i am told it looks like its in good condition, motors work, lights come on.
physical appearance is good. I think I will go for it.

unfortunately I don't have any reels. Does anyone know a good type / brand of reel and
where to get em?

double boxing is a good idea

/Cy


On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Ashvin Srivastava wrote:


Make sure unit is double boxed. The spindles are protected.
I own a lot of R2R's.
Quite a few were destroyed in shipping.

Ashvin

On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Daniel Botelho <daniel.botelho at gmail.com<mailto:daniel.botelho at gmail.com>> wrote:
Yes!  Take it...parts are aplenty and it's relatively easy to maintain.

I would go for it too, even with shipping.  Recordings sound GREAT on a reel to reel.  :)

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com<mailto:bg3009 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
Go for it. The T34 is a solid deck that delivers great Tascam performance. It's a simple deck that's built for heavy duty performance. There are a few seasoned Teac veterans I can direct you. PM me.

Cheers

Sent from my iPhone

On 25/04/2013, at 7:06 PM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com<mailto:le.cyrus at gmail.com>> wrote:

>
>
> hi naks,
>
> does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
> My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40 bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..
> she doesn't have any reels to check it.
> pros or cons? worth the risk?
>
> /Cy
>
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From daniel.botelho at gmail.com  Fri Apr 26 01:13:50 2013
From: daniel.botelho at gmail.com (Daniel Botelho)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 19:13:50 -0400
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:)

I wish I had a dragon to fix...I only had a CR-5, and that machine is on
it's way to the ukraine.  :(

But I have a cassette deck one.  Should be fun to play with.


On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Rodrigo Krause <rkrause at multiplan.com.br>wrote:

>  E aí Daniel, conseguiu consertar a Dragon?
>
> Abs.
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> Rodrigo
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> *Para:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Assunto:* Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
>
>
>
> Yes!  Take it...parts are aplenty and it's relatively easy to maintain.
>
> I would go for it too, even with shipping.  Recordings sound GREAT on a
> reel to reel.  :)
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Go for it. The T34 is a solid deck that delivers great Tascam performance.
> It's a simple deck that's built for heavy duty performance. There are a few
> seasoned Teac veterans I can direct you. PM me.
>
> Cheers
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On 25/04/2013, at 7:06 PM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > hi naks,
> >
> > does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
> > My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40
> bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..
> > she doesn't have any reels to check it.
> > pros or cons? worth the risk?
> >
> > /Cy
> >
> >
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From le.cyrus at gmail.com  Fri Apr 26 04:38:59 2013
From: le.cyrus at gmail.com (Cyrus Shirali)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 22:38:59 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
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Sounds good. Ill let u know when I get it. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:38 PM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> You could put in a signal to test the meters and probably pop some old tape to see if records or plays back. But the deck would still need a full over. You can also get it setup for a particular tape, one that is still in production. Once you've done that, you'd be amazed how this machine can sing. 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 26/04/2013, at 3:32 AM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Is there any tests she can perform to c if its working, other than test the actual recording  of the reels since she doesn't have any?
>> Maybe test the inputs on it and meters?
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Ashvin Srivastava wrote:
>> 
>>> Make sure unit is double boxed. The spindles are protected.
>>> I own a lot of R2R's.
>>> Quite a few were destroyed in shipping.
>>> 
>>> Ashvin
>>> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Daniel Botelho <daniel.botelho at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yes!  Take it...parts are aplenty and it's relatively easy to maintain.  
>>>> 
>>>> I would go for it too, even with shipping.  Recordings sound GREAT on a reel to reel.  :)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> Go for it. The T34 is a solid deck that delivers great Tascam performance. It's a simple deck that's built for heavy duty performance. There are a few seasoned Teac veterans I can direct you. PM me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 25/04/2013, at 7:06 PM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > hi naks,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
>>>>> > My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40 bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..
>>>>> > she doesn't have any reels to check it.
>>>>> > pros or cons? worth the risk?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > /Cy
>>>>> >
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From le.cyrus at gmail.com  Fri Apr 26 05:54:10 2013
From: le.cyrus at gmail.com (Cyrus Shirali)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 23:54:10 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
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Well I would have to probably check it when it arrives then. If anyone knows someone in the MD / DC / VA area or a shop I can take it for a check up and maybe an estimate..let me know!



Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:38 PM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> You could put in a signal to test the meters and probably pop some old tape to see if records or plays back. But the deck would still need a full over. You can also get it setup for a particular tape, one that is still in production. Once you've done that, you'd be amazed how this machine can sing. 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 26/04/2013, at 3:32 AM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Is there any tests she can perform to c if its working, other than test the actual recording  of the reels since she doesn't have any?
>> Maybe test the inputs on it and meters?
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Ashvin Srivastava wrote:
>> 
>>> Make sure unit is double boxed. The spindles are protected.
>>> I own a lot of R2R's.
>>> Quite a few were destroyed in shipping.
>>> 
>>> Ashvin
>>> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Daniel Botelho <daniel.botelho at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yes!  Take it...parts are aplenty and it's relatively easy to maintain.  
>>>> 
>>>> I would go for it too, even with shipping.  Recordings sound GREAT on a reel to reel.  :)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> Go for it. The T34 is a solid deck that delivers great Tascam performance. It's a simple deck that's built for heavy duty performance. There are a few seasoned Teac veterans I can direct you. PM me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 25/04/2013, at 7:06 PM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > hi naks,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
>>>>> > My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40 bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..
>>>>> > she doesn't have any reels to check it.
>>>>> > pros or cons? worth the risk?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > /Cy
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
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From luis at peromarta.org  Fri Apr 26 10:26:05 2013
From: luis at peromarta.org (Luis Peromarta)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:26:05 +0200
Subject: RES: [naktalk] Service Manual
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Hi Rodrigo. The 480 si already on the wiki. Looking for 480Z

Willy can scan a copy next week if we don't find another somewhere else. 

Thank you all. 

Sent from iPhone. Pls excuse typos.

El 25/04/2013, a las 22:17, Rodrigo Krause <rkrause at multiplan.com.br> escribió:

> I`ve just done that. I downloaded a manual from HiFiEngine and sent it to Luis. I´m just waiting to hear from him if it was what he needed.
> Best regards,
>  
> Rodrigo
>  
> De: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] Em nome de Birger Glosimot
> Enviada em: quinta-feira, 25 de abril de 2013 12:51
> Para: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Assunto: Re: [naktalk] Service Manual
>  
> There is a service manual for 480 on hifiengine.com
> Can that one help?
>  
> BR
> Birger
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Willy Hermann
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Service Manual
>  
> I can scan mine if nobody else has one - but I won't be able to get to it until middle of next week.
> Willy
>  
> 
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:49 AM, Luis Peromarta <luis at peromarta.org> wrote:
> Dear friends
> 
> I need a 480Z service manual. Anyone has a copy somewhere ?
> 
> There is none in the wiki, and 481Z 482Z are somewhat different. Any ideas ?
> 
> Thanks and best regards, LP
> 
> 
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From wheijke at xs4all.nl  Fri Apr 26 10:31:09 2013
From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:31:09 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Service Manual
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If someone makes a pdf available i will be happy to place it on the wiki
page so all can download it.

Wouter

> I would be interested as well in the 480 Z SM.
>




From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 26 11:50:09 2013
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 02:50:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
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I second the Maxell, especially the UDXL. My next favourite was the old EMTEC 468. I think there's been some effort to restart production on them. 




________________________________
 From: Bob Naylor <wotbob01 at yahoo.com>
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
 


Just my opinion but I like Maxell UD, or Maxell XL1. I've heard a lot of good about Synergy (sp?) but I've not tried them.
Bob

--- On Thu, 4/25/13, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:


>From: Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
>To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
>Date: Thursday, April 25, 2013, 10:22 AM
>
>
>from what i am told it looks like its in good condition, motors work, lights come on.
>physical appearance is good. I think I will go for it.
>
>
>unfortunately I don't have any reels. Does anyone know a good type / brand of reel and 
>where to get em?
>
>
>double boxing is a good idea
>
>
>/Cy
>
>
>
>On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Ashvin Srivastava wrote:
>
>Make sure unit is double boxed. The spindles are protected.
>>I own a lot of R2R's.
>>Quite a few were destroyed in shipping.
>>
>>Ashvin
>>
>>On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Daniel Botelho <daniel.botelho at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Yes!  Take it...parts are aplenty and it's relatively easy to maintain.  
>>>
>>>I would go for it too, even with shipping.  Recordings sound GREAT on a reel to reel.  :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Go for it. The T34 is a solid deck that delivers great Tascam performance. It's a simple deck that's built for heavy duty performance. There are a few seasoned Teac veterans I can direct you. PM me.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers
>>>>
>>>>Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 25/04/2013, at 7:06 PM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> hi naks,
>>>>>
>>>>> does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
>>>>> My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40 bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..
>>>>> she doesn't have any reels to check it.
>>>>> pros or cons? worth the risk?
>>>>>
>>>>> /Cy
>>>>>
>>>>>
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 26 15:53:17 2013
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:53:17 -0700 (PDT)
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> Willy let's wait a couple days see if it shows up. If not a scan would be fantastic. 


I second that. DO let us know when it's available. With thanx -- Ron




>________________________________
> From: Luis Peromarta <luis at peromarta.org>
>To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
>Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 12:37 PM
>Subject: Re: [naktalk] Service Manual
> 
>
>Thank you all. The 480 is already available on the wiki, as well as 481Z and 482Z. 
>
>Willy let's wait a couple days see if it shows up. If not a scan would be fantastic. 
>
>
>
>Sent from iPhone. Pls excuse typos.
>
>El 25/04/2013, a las 14:24, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> escribió:
>
>> would a 480 SM do?
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 7:49 AM, Luis Peromarta wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear friends
>>> 
>>> I need a 480Z service manual. Anyone has a copy somewhere ?
>>> 
>>> There is none in the wiki, and 481Z 482Z are somewhat different. Any ideas ?
>>> 
>>> Thanks and best regards, LP
>>> 
>>> 
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From fgiddi at windstream.net  Fri Apr 26 11:41:55 2013
From: fgiddi at windstream.net (Francis Giddings)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 05:41:55 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
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On 4/25/2013 1:22 PM, Cyrus wrote:
> from what i am told it looks like its in good condition, motors work, 
> lights come on.
> physical appearance is good. I think I will go for it.
>
> unfortunately I don't have any reels. Does anyone know a good type / 
> brand of reel and
> where to get em?
>
> double boxing is a good idea
>
> /Cy
>
>
> On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Ashvin Srivastava wrote:
>
>> Make sure unit is double boxed. The spindles are protected.
>> I own a lot of R2R's.
>> Quite a few were destroyed in shipping.
>>
>> Ashvin
>>
>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Daniel Botelho <daniel.botelho at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:daniel.botelho at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes!  Take it...parts are aplenty and it's relatively easy to maintain.
>>>
>>> I would go for it too, even with shipping.  Recordings sound GREAT 
>>> on a reel to reel.  :)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com 
>>> <mailto:bg3009 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Go for it. The T34 is a solid deck that delivers great Tascam
>>>     performance. It's a simple deck that's built for heavy duty
>>>     performance. There are a few seasoned Teac veterans I can direct
>>>     you. PM me.
>>>
>>>     Cheers
>>>
>>>     Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>     On 25/04/2013, at 7:06 PM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com
>>>     <mailto:le.cyrus at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     > hi naks,
>>>     >
>>>     > does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
>>>     > My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for
>>>     $40 bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it,
>>>     neither do I..
>>>     > she doesn't have any reels to check it.
>>>     > pros or cons? worth the risk?
>>>     >
>>>     > /Cy
>>>     >
>>>     >
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Cyrus I have empty Revox 10 and 1/2 " metal reels Brand new never opened 
I can sell you for $20.00 each plus shipping.  Tape is available online
> usrecordingmedia.com/  and there are others.

Fran Giddings

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From icmllc at gmail.com  Fri Apr 26 14:34:07 2013
From: icmllc at gmail.com (Ashvin Srivastava)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 07:34:07 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
In-Reply-To: <1366926652.31900.YahooMailClassic@web184702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
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The issue is not the brand of tape. Its the age and thermal cycling.

Many studios that closed or went digital kept tapes in boxes in garages where it can freeze and then get like an oven.

These tapes separate at the magnetic oxide/substrate interface and its expensive or time consuming to clean the heads.

You have no idea what you are getting on ebay. Even the seller truly does not know. Be aware of this.

That is why its important to buy from the only existing manufacturer in the US.

Regards  

Ashvin

On Apr 25, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Bob Naylor <wotbob01 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> 
> Just my opinion but I like Maxell UD, or Maxell XL1. I've heard a lot of good about Synergy (sp?) but I've not tried them.
> Bob
> 
> --- On Thu, 4/25/13, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> From: Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
> Date: Thursday, April 25, 2013, 10:22 AM
> 
> from what i am told it looks like its in good condition, motors work, lights come on.
> physical appearance is good. I think I will go for it.
> 
> unfortunately I don't have any reels. Does anyone know a good type / brand of reel and 
> where to get em?
> 
> double boxing is a good idea
> 
> /Cy
> 
> 
> On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Ashvin Srivastava wrote:
> 
>> Make sure unit is double boxed. The spindles are protected.
>> I own a lot of R2R's.
>> Quite a few were destroyed in shipping.
>> 
>> Ashvin
>> 
>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Daniel Botelho <daniel.botelho at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes!  Take it...parts are aplenty and it's relatively easy to maintain.  
>>> 
>>> I would go for it too, even with shipping.  Recordings sound GREAT on a reel to reel.  :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Go for it. The T34 is a solid deck that delivers great Tascam performance. It's a simple deck that's built for heavy duty performance. There are a few seasoned Teac veterans I can direct you. PM me.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 25/04/2013, at 7:06 PM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > hi naks,
>>> >
>>> > does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
>>> > My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40 bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..
>>> > she doesn't have any reels to check it.
>>> > pros or cons? worth the risk?
>>> >
>>> > /Cy
>>> >
>>> >
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From icmllc at gmail.com  Fri Apr 26 16:57:02 2013
From: icmllc at gmail.com (Ashvin Srivastava)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 09:57:02 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
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Hope you guys can read this.







Ashvin

On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:50 AM, Bala Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I second the Maxell, especially the UDXL. My next favourite was the old EMTEC 468. I think there's been some effort to restart production on them. 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Bob Naylor <wotbob01 at yahoo.com>
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 7:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
> 
> Just my opinion but I like Maxell UD, or Maxell XL1. I've heard a lot of good about Synergy (sp?) but I've not tried them.
> Bob
> 
> --- On Thu, 4/25/13, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> From: Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
> Date: Thursday, April 25, 2013, 10:22 AM
> 
> from what i am told it looks like its in good condition, motors work, lights come on.
> physical appearance is good. I think I will go for it.
> 
> unfortunately I don't have any reels. Does anyone know a good type / brand of reel and 
> where to get em?
> 
> double boxing is a good idea
> 
> /Cy
> 
> 
> On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Ashvin Srivastava wrote:
> 
>> Make sure unit is double boxed. The spindles are protected.
>> I own a lot of R2R's.
>> Quite a few were destroyed in shipping.
>> 
>> Ashvin
>> 
>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Daniel Botelho <daniel.botelho at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes!  Take it...parts are aplenty and it's relatively easy to maintain.  
>>> 
>>> I would go for it too, even with shipping.  Recordings sound GREAT on a reel to reel.  :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Go for it. The T34 is a solid deck that delivers great Tascam performance. It's a simple deck that's built for heavy duty performance. There are a few seasoned Teac veterans I can direct you. PM me.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 25/04/2013, at 7:06 PM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > hi naks,
>>> >
>>> > does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
>>> > My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40 bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..
>>> > she doesn't have any reels to check it.
>>> > pros or cons? worth the risk?
>>> >
>>> > /Cy
>>> >
>>> >
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From luis at peromarta.org  Fri Apr 26 18:01:40 2013
From: luis at peromarta.org (Luis Peromarta)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 18:01:40 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Faulty 480Z
Message-ID: <E4EB2524-05FF-49BF-A766-8D49A791A7B6@peromarta.org>

Friends. 

This deck has been services and it just worked. 

Suddenly, it has stopped responding to keys. 

All DC rials strong. All keyboard signals to logic board good. 

However these signals do not reach the control motor governor (4558) so the deck is not being commanded into play, ff, rew, etc. 

Is there a inhibiting signal somewhere ? 

Any other idea ?

Best. LP

Sent from iPhone. Pls excuse typos.


From wheijke at xs4all.nl  Fri Apr 26 21:24:36 2013
From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 21:24:36 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] 480z service manual
Message-ID: <33890c0edeed8bfc073ded89d84a796b.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>


Ben has kindly made the 480Z service manual available, thanks!

It is in the usual place:

http://www.naks.com/wiki/doku.php?id=documents

Enjoy!

Wouter




From jean-jerome.prejean at orange.fr  Fri Apr 26 17:21:28 2013
From: jean-jerome.prejean at orange.fr (Jean-Jerome PREJEAN)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 17:21:28 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] quid tape
Message-ID: <D8F3A82D-7A36-4C83-AB12-0F336C70F599@orange.fr>

  Hi guys
my 1000 stops on playback
dirty heads  belts to change
what s your opinion



From icmllc at gmail.com  Fri Apr 26 17:43:42 2013
From: icmllc at gmail.com (ashvin srivastava)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:43:42 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
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Bala,
I believe we had discussed my studio.
Here are a few pictures.

[image: Inline image 1]

[image: Inline image 1]

[image: Inline image 1]

The Studer-Revox 230 half track






On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 4:50 AM, Bala Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com>wrote:

> I second the Maxell, especially the UDXL. My next favourite was the old
> EMTEC 468. I think there's been some effort to restart production on them.
>
>
>
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Bob Naylor <wotbob01 at yahoo.com>
>
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 7:50 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
>
> Just my opinion but I like Maxell UD, or Maxell XL1. I've heard a lot of
> good about Synergy (sp?) but I've not tried them.
> Bob
>
> --- On *Thu, 4/25/13, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
> Date: Thursday, April 25, 2013, 10:22 AM
>
> from what i am told it looks like its in good condition, motors work,
> lights come on.
> physical appearance is good. I think I will go for it.
>
> unfortunately I don't have any reels. Does anyone know a good type / brand
> of reel and
> where to get em?
>
> double boxing is a good idea
>
> /Cy
>
>
> On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Ashvin Srivastava wrote:
>
> Make sure unit is double boxed. The spindles are protected.
> I own a lot of R2R's.
> Quite a few were destroyed in shipping.
>
> Ashvin
>
> On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Daniel Botelho <daniel.botelho at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Yes!  Take it...parts are aplenty and it's relatively easy to maintain.
>
> I would go for it too, even with shipping.  Recordings sound GREAT on a
> reel to reel.  :)
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Go for it. The T34 is a solid deck that delivers great Tascam performance.
> It's a simple deck that's built for heavy duty performance. There are a few
> seasoned Teac veterans I can direct you. PM me.
>
> Cheers
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 25/04/2013, at 7:06 PM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > hi naks,
> >
> > does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
> > My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40
> bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..
> > she doesn't have any reels to check it.
> > pros or cons? worth the risk?
> >
> > /Cy
> >
> >
> >
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From rkrause at multiplan.com.br  Fri Apr 26 18:46:34 2013
From: rkrause at multiplan.com.br (Rodrigo Krause)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 16:46:34 +0000
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...And what manufacturer might that be?
Rodrigo Krause dos S. R.
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Enviada em: Fri Apr 26 09:34:07 2013
Assunto: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel

The issue is not the brand of tape. Its the age and thermal cycling.

Many studios that closed or went digital kept tapes in boxes in garages where it can freeze and then get like an oven.

These tapes separate at the magnetic oxide/substrate interface and its expensive or time consuming to clean the heads.

You have no idea what you are getting on ebay. Even the seller truly does not know. Be aware of this.

That is why its important to buy from the only existing manufacturer in the US.

Regards

Ashvin

On Apr 25, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Bob Naylor <wotbob01 at yahoo.com<mailto:wotbob01 at yahoo.com>> wrote:

Just my opinion but I like Maxell UD, or Maxell XL1. I've heard a lot of good about Synergy (sp?) but I've not tried them.
Bob

--- On Thu, 4/25/13, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com<mailto:le.cyrus at gmail.com>> wrote:

From: Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com<mailto:le.cyrus at gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com<mailto:naktalk at naks.com>>
Date: Thursday, April 25, 2013, 10:22 AM

from what i am told it looks like its in good condition, motors work, lights come on.
physical appearance is good. I think I will go for it.

unfortunately I don't have any reels. Does anyone know a good type / brand of reel and
where to get em?

double boxing is a good idea

/Cy


On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Ashvin Srivastava wrote:

Make sure unit is double boxed. The spindles are protected.
I own a lot of R2R's.
Quite a few were destroyed in shipping.

Ashvin

On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Daniel Botelho <daniel.botelho at gmail.com</mc/compose?to=daniel.botelho at gmail.com>> wrote:

Yes!  Take it...parts are aplenty and it's relatively easy to maintain.

I would go for it too, even with shipping.  Recordings sound GREAT on a reel to reel.  :)


On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com</mc/compose?to=bg3009 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
Go for it. The T34 is a solid deck that delivers great Tascam performance. It's a simple deck that's built for heavy duty performance. There are a few seasoned Teac veterans I can direct you. PM me.

Cheers

Sent from my iPhone

On 25/04/2013, at 7:06 PM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com</mc/compose?to=le.cyrus at gmail.com>> wrote:

>
>
> hi naks,
>
> does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
> My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40 bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..
> she doesn't have any reels to check it.
> pros or cons? worth the risk?
>
> /Cy
>
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From daniel.botelho at gmail.com  Fri Apr 26 19:12:29 2013
From: daniel.botelho at gmail.com (Daniel Botelho)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 13:12:29 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
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Ashvin, Very good (and valid) points.


On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Ashvin Srivastava <icmllc at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hope you guys can read this.
>
> [image: image.jpeg]
>
> [image: image.jpeg]
>
>
>
> Ashvin
>
> On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:50 AM, Bala Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I second the Maxell, especially the UDXL. My next favourite was the old
> EMTEC 468. I think there's been some effort to restart production on them.
>
>
>
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Bob Naylor <wotbob01 at yahoo.com>
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 7:50 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
>
> Just my opinion but I like Maxell UD, or Maxell XL1. I've heard a lot of
> good about Synergy (sp?) but I've not tried them.
> Bob
>
> --- On *Thu, 4/25/13, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
> Date: Thursday, April 25, 2013, 10:22 AM
>
> from what i am told it looks like its in good condition, motors work,
> lights come on.
> physical appearance is good. I think I will go for it.
>
> unfortunately I don't have any reels. Does anyone know a good type / brand
> of reel and
> where to get em?
>
> double boxing is a good idea
>
> /Cy
>
>
> On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Ashvin Srivastava wrote:
>
> Make sure unit is double boxed. The spindles are protected.
> I own a lot of R2R's.
> Quite a few were destroyed in shipping.
>
> Ashvin
>
> On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Daniel Botelho <daniel.botelho at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Yes!  Take it...parts are aplenty and it's relatively easy to maintain.
>
> I would go for it too, even with shipping.  Recordings sound GREAT on a
> reel to reel.  :)
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Go for it. The T34 is a solid deck that delivers great Tascam performance.
> It's a simple deck that's built for heavy duty performance. There are a few
> seasoned Teac veterans I can direct you. PM me.
>
> Cheers
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 25/04/2013, at 7:06 PM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > hi naks,
> >
> > does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
> > My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40
> bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..
> > she doesn't have any reels to check it.
> > pros or cons? worth the risk?
> >
> > /Cy
> >
> >
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From le.cyrus at gmail.com  Fri Apr 26 21:20:06 2013
From: le.cyrus at gmail.com (Cyrus)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 15:20:06 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
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I am reading up on this 34, a 4 track one direction mono recorder.
it also say i need a mixer to record with with it? any one know of this?





On Apr 26, 2013, at 5:50 AM, Bala Ganesh Chandra wrote:

> I second the Maxell, especially the UDXL. My next favourite was the old EMTEC 468. I think there's been some effort to restart production on them. 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Bob Naylor <wotbob01 at yahoo.com>
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 7:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
> 
> Just my opinion but I like Maxell UD, or Maxell XL1. I've heard a lot of good about Synergy (sp?) but I've not tried them.
> Bob
> 
> --- On Thu, 4/25/13, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> From: Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
> Date: Thursday, April 25, 2013, 10:22 AM
> 
> from what i am told it looks like its in good condition, motors work, lights come on.
> physical appearance is good. I think I will go for it.
> 
> unfortunately I don't have any reels. Does anyone know a good type / brand of reel and 
> where to get em?
> 
> double boxing is a good idea
> 
> /Cy
> 
> 
> On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Ashvin Srivastava wrote:
> 
>> Make sure unit is double boxed. The spindles are protected.
>> I own a lot of R2R's.
>> Quite a few were destroyed in shipping.
>> 
>> Ashvin
>> 
>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Daniel Botelho <daniel.botelho at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes!  Take it...parts are aplenty and it's relatively easy to maintain.  
>>> 
>>> I would go for it too, even with shipping.  Recordings sound GREAT on a reel to reel.  :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Go for it. The T34 is a solid deck that delivers great Tascam performance. It's a simple deck that's built for heavy duty performance. There are a few seasoned Teac veterans I can direct you. PM me.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 25/04/2013, at 7:06 PM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > hi naks,
>>> >
>>> > does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
>>> > My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40 bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..
>>> > she doesn't have any reels to check it.
>>> > pros or cons? worth the risk?
>>> >
>>> > /Cy
>>> >
>>> >
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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 26 23:03:26 2013
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 07:03:26 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] Faulty 480Z
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Hi LP, 

I combed through my drives but no 480Z. Sorry about that. 

Does it use the similar logic layouts to the 6XXs and ZXLs? 

Best Regards, 
Bala Ganesh

On 27/04/2013, at 2:01 AM, Luis Peromarta <luis at peromarta.org> wrote:

> Friends. 
> 
> This deck has been services and it just worked. 
> 
> Suddenly, it has stopped responding to keys. 
> 
> All DC rials strong. All keyboard signals to logic board good. 
> 
> However these signals do not reach the control motor governor (4558) so the deck is not being commanded into play, ff, rew, etc. 
> 
> Is there a inhibiting signal somewhere ? 
> 
> Any other idea ?
> 
> Best. LP
> 
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From luis at peromarta.org  Sat Apr 27 07:41:16 2013
From: luis at peromarta.org (Luis Peromarta)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 07:41:16 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Faulty 480Z
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Thanks Bala. 480Z SM is now on the wiki!

Sent from iPhone. Pls excuse typos.

El 26/04/2013, a las 23:03, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> escribió:

> Hi LP, 
> 
> I combed through my drives but no 480Z. Sorry about that. 
> 
> Does it use the similar logic layouts to the 6XXs and ZXLs? 
> 
> Best Regards, 
> Bala Ganesh
> 
> On 27/04/2013, at 2:01 AM, Luis Peromarta <luis at peromarta.org> wrote:
> 
>> Friends. 
>> 
>> This deck has been services and it just worked. 
>> 
>> Suddenly, it has stopped responding to keys. 
>> 
>> All DC rials strong. All keyboard signals to logic board good. 
>> 
>> However these signals do not reach the control motor governor (4558) so the deck is not being commanded into play, ff, rew, etc. 
>> 
>> Is there a inhibiting signal somewhere ? 
>> 
>> Any other idea ?
>> 
>> Best. LP
>> 
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 27 15:49:49 2013
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 06:49:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] 480z service manual
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Thanks much,

-- Ron




>________________________________
> From: Wouter Heijke <wheijke at xs4all.nl>
>To: naktalk at naks.com 
>Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 3:24 PM
>Subject: [naktalk] 480z service manual
> 
>
>
>Ben has kindly made the 480Z service manual available, thanks!
>
>It is in the usual place:
>
>http://www.naks.com/wiki/doku.php?id=documents
>
>Enjoy!
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 27 16:19:18 2013
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 07:19:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Faulty 480Z
In-Reply-To: <E4EB2524-05FF-49BF-A766-8D49A791A7B6@peromarta.org>
References: <E4EB2524-05FF-49BF-A766-8D49A791A7B6@peromarta.org>
Message-ID: <1367072358.31620.YahooMailNeo@web160206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Turn deck ON.

- Do you get +12V right at the control motor? 

- Do you get +24 at IC401 pin 8 and ground at IC401 pin 4?

I know you said you did, just checking  :-).

To continue: Press FF. 

- Does Q401 collector go HIGH? 

- If so, does Q426 collector go LOW and Q403 go LOW?
- If so, what ar5e the voltages at IC401 pins 5, 6 and 7?


Depending on results of the above, you are now fairly close to the source of the problem.

-- Ron





>________________________________
> From: Luis Peromarta <luis at peromarta.org>
>To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <Naktalk at naks.com> 
>Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 12:01 PM
>Subject: [naktalk] Faulty 480Z
> 
>
>Friends. 
>
>This deck has been services and it just worked. 
>
>Suddenly, it has stopped responding to keys. 
>
>All DC rials strong. All keyboard signals to logic board good. 
>
>However these signals do not reach the control motor governor (4558) so the deck is not being commanded into play, ff, rew, etc. 
>
>Is there a inhibiting signal somewhere ? 
>
>Any other idea ?
>
>Best. LP
>
>Sent from iPhone. Pls excuse typos.
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From luis at peromarta.org  Sat Apr 27 17:14:06 2013
From: luis at peromarta.org (Luis Peromarta)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:14:06 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Faulty 480Z
In-Reply-To: <1367072358.31620.YahooMailNeo@web160206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <E4EB2524-05FF-49BF-A766-8D49A791A7B6@peromarta.org>
	<1367072358.31620.YahooMailNeo@web160206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AD933565-EA0A-44B4-8843-0C0C2C6C989C@peromarta.org>

Hey Ron. Thanks so much. Please find answers below

Sent from iPhone. Pls excuse typos.

El 27/04/2013, a las 16:19, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> escribió:

> Turn deck ON.
> - Do you get +12V right at the control motor? 

Yes

> - Do you get +24 at IC401 pin 8 and ground at IC401 pin 4? 


Yes

> I know you said you did, just checking  :-).
> 
> To continue: Press FF. 
> - Does Q401 collector go HIGH? 
> - If so, does Q426 collector go LOW and Q403 go LOW?
> - If so, what ar5e the voltages at IC401 pins 5, 6 and 7?

Emitter at Q401 is low (1,7V) at all times, despite keys being pressed, so I suspect a shutt off signal. 



> 
> Depending on results of the above, you are now fairly close to the source of the problem.
> 
> -- Ron
> 
> 
> From: Luis Peromarta <luis at peromarta.org>
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <Naktalk at naks.com> 
> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 12:01 PM
> Subject: [naktalk] Faulty 480Z
> 
> Friends. 
> 
> This deck has been services and it just worked. 
> 
> Suddenly, it has stopped responding to keys. 
> 
> All DC rials strong. All keyboard signals to logic board good. 
> 
> However these signals do not reach the control motor governor (4558) so the deck is not being commanded into play, ff, rew, etc. 
> 
> Is there a inhibiting signal somewhere ? 
> 
> Any other idea ?
> 
> Best. LP
> 
> Sent from iPhone. Pls excuse typos.
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From luis at peromarta.org  Sat Apr 27 17:22:39 2013
From: luis at peromarta.org (Luis Peromarta)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:22:39 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Faulty 480Z
In-Reply-To: <1367072358.31620.YahooMailNeo@web160206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <E4EB2524-05FF-49BF-A766-8D49A791A7B6@peromarta.org>
	<1367072358.31620.YahooMailNeo@web160206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <93D40894-930A-4444-A8AF-37CC77A7DE89@peromarta.org>

Collector at Q413 low, so all transistors (401 402 etc) off. 

Base Q414 24V, base Q411 5,7V and emitter Q411 5,1V so Q411 off. 

Then I get lost in the wild. 

Sent from iPhone. Pls excuse typos.

El 27/04/2013, a las 16:19, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> escribió:

> Turn deck ON.
> - Do you get +12V right at the control motor? 
> - Do you get +24 at IC401 pin 8 and ground at IC401 pin 4? 
> I know you said you did, just checking  :-).
> 
> To continue: Press FF. 
> - Does Q401 collector go HIGH? 
> - If so, does Q426 collector go LOW and Q403 go LOW?
> - If so, what ar5e the voltages at IC401 pins 5, 6 and 7?
> 
> Depending on results of the above, you are now fairly close to the source of the problem.
> 
> -- Ron
> 
> 
> From: Luis Peromarta <luis at peromarta.org>
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <Naktalk at naks.com> 
> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 12:01 PM
> Subject: [naktalk] Faulty 480Z
> 
> Friends. 
> 
> This deck has been services and it just worked. 
> 
> Suddenly, it has stopped responding to keys. 
> 
> All DC rials strong. All keyboard signals to logic board good. 
> 
> However these signals do not reach the control motor governor (4558) so the deck is not being commanded into play, ff, rew, etc. 
> 
> Is there a inhibiting signal somewhere ? 
> 
> Any other idea ?
> 
> Best. LP
> 
> Sent from iPhone. Pls excuse typos.
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From luis at peromarta.org  Sat Apr 27 19:33:16 2013
From: luis at peromarta.org (Luis Peromarta Regert)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 19:33:16 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Faulty 480Z
In-Reply-To: <93D40894-930A-4444-A8AF-37CC77A7DE89@peromarta.org>
References: <E4EB2524-05FF-49BF-A766-8D49A791A7B6@peromarta.org>
	<1367072358.31620.YahooMailNeo@web160206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<93D40894-930A-4444-A8AF-37CC77A7DE89@peromarta.org>
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Q411 ON, I meant.

El 27/04/2013, a las 17:22, Luis Peromarta <luis at peromarta.org> escribió:

> Collector at Q413 low, so all transistors (401 402 etc) off. 
> 
> Base Q414 24V, base Q411 5,7V and emitter Q411 5,1V so Q411 off. 
> 
> Then I get lost in the wild. 
> 
> Sent from iPhone. Pls excuse typos.
> 
> El 27/04/2013, a las 16:19, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> escribió:
> 
>> Turn deck ON.
>> - Do you get +12V right at the control motor? 
>> - Do you get +24 at IC401 pin 8 and ground at IC401 pin 4? 
>> I know you said you did, just checking  :-).
>> 
>> To continue: Press FF. 
>> - Does Q401 collector go HIGH? 
>> - If so, does Q426 collector go LOW and Q403 go LOW?
>> - If so, what ar5e the voltages at IC401 pins 5, 6 and 7?
>> 
>> Depending on results of the above, you are now fairly close to the source of the problem.
>> 
>> -- Ron
>> 
>> 
>> From: Luis Peromarta <luis at peromarta.org>
>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <Naktalk at naks.com> 
>> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 12:01 PM
>> Subject: [naktalk] Faulty 480Z
>> 
>> Friends. 
>> 
>> This deck has been services and it just worked. 
>> 
>> Suddenly, it has stopped responding to keys. 
>> 
>> All DC rials strong. All keyboard signals to logic board good. 
>> 
>> However these signals do not reach the control motor governor (4558) so the deck is not being commanded into play, ff, rew, etc. 
>> 
>> Is there a inhibiting signal somewhere ? 
>> 
>> Any other idea ?
>> 
>> Best. LP
>> 
>> Sent from iPhone. Pls excuse typos.
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From g.p.lyskin at paradise.net.nz  Sun Apr 28 09:09:25 2013
From: g.p.lyskin at paradise.net.nz (Gennady Lyskin)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:09:25 +1200
Subject: [naktalk] Updates for BX-300 and 1 kHz Track Alignment Cassettes
Message-ID: <4F310D2E771B4A06AC317AE18F45306E@emachinef0bb72>

Greetings to all of you from down under!

Some updates on the http://www.gennlab.com/bx300_1.html page in pictures.

Supply Capstan Flywheel Belt replacement.

Idler Tyre replacement.

Using GennLab 1 kHz Track Alignment Cassette Version 87B to align BX-300 PB 
Head height.

Cheers,

Gennady Lyskin

G e n n L a b
http://www.gennlab.com
info at gennlab.com
Tel: +64 21 238 3056
New Zealand 



From ronami at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 28 14:01:50 2013
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 05:01:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Faulty 480Z
In-Reply-To: <AD933565-EA0A-44B4-8843-0C0C2C6C989C@peromarta.org>
References: <E4EB2524-05FF-49BF-A766-8D49A791A7B6@peromarta.org>
	<1367072358.31620.YahooMailNeo@web160206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<AD933565-EA0A-44B4-8843-0C0C2C6C989C@peromarta.org>
Message-ID: <1367150510.96877.YahooMailNeo@web160206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>




> To continue: Press FF. 

> - Does Q401 collector go HIGH? 

> - If so, does Q426 collector go LOW and Q403 go LOW?
> - If so, what are the voltages at IC401 pins 5, 6 and 7?

>

> Emitter at Q401 is low (1,7V) at all times, despite keys being pressed, so I suspect a shutt off signal. 

Unfortunately, this doesn't answer any of the three question above. 

-- Ron







>________________________________
> From: Luis Peromarta <luis at peromarta.org>
>To: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
>Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 11:14 AM
>Subject: Re: [naktalk] Faulty 480Z
> 
>
>
>Hey Ron. Thanks so much. Please find answers below
>
>Sent from iPhone. Pls excuse typos.
>
>El 27/04/2013, a las 16:19, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> escribió:
>
>
>Turn deck ON.
>>
>>- Do you get +12V right at the control motor? 
>>
>
>
>Yes
>
>- Do you get +24 at IC401 pin 8 and ground at IC401 pin 4? 
>>
>
>
>
>Yes
>
>
>I know you said you did, just checking  :-).
>>
>>
>>To continue: Press FF. 
>>
>>- Does Q401 collector go HIGH? 
>>
>>- If so, does Q426 collector go LOW and Q403 go LOW?
>>- If so, what ar5e the voltages at IC401 pins 5, 6 and 7?
>>
>
>
>Emitter at Q401 is low (1,7V) at all times, despite keys being pressed, so I suspect a shutt off signal. 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>Depending on results of the above, you are now fairly close to the source of the problem.
>>
>>
>>-- Ron
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>________________________________
>>> From: Luis Peromarta <luis at peromarta.org>
>>>To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <Naktalk at naks.com> 
>>>Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 12:01 PM
>>>Subject: [naktalk] Faulty 480Z
>>> 
>>>
>>>Friends. 
>>>
>>>This deck has been services and it
 just worked. 
>>>
>>>Suddenly, it has stopped responding to keys. 
>>>
>>>All DC rials strong. All keyboard signals to logic board good. 
>>>
>>>However these signals do not reach the control motor governor (4558) so the deck is not being commanded into play, ff, rew, etc. 
>>>
>>>Is there a inhibiting signal somewhere ? 
>>>
>>>Any other idea ?
>>>
>>>Best. LP
>>>
>>>Sent from iPhone. Pls excuse typos.
>>>========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 28 14:08:03 2013
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 05:08:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Faulty 480Z
In-Reply-To: <93D40894-930A-4444-A8AF-37CC77A7DE89@peromarta.org>
References: <E4EB2524-05FF-49BF-A766-8D49A791A7B6@peromarta.org>
	<1367072358.31620.YahooMailNeo@web160206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<93D40894-930A-4444-A8AF-37CC77A7DE89@peromarta.org>
Message-ID: <1367150883.9146.YahooMailNeo@web160205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>



That's wonderful, but I asked about Q401 collector, Q426 Collector, Q403 

collector and IC pins 5, 6, and 7. 

-- Ron



>________________________________
> From: Luis Peromarta <luis at peromarta.org>
>To: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
>Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 11:22 AM
>Subject: Re: [naktalk] Faulty 480Z
> 
>
>
>Collector at Q413 low, so all transistors (401 402 etc) off. 
>
>
>Base Q414 24V, base Q411 5,7V and emitter Q411 5,1V so Q411 off. 
>
>
>Then I get lost in the wild. 
>
>Sent from iPhone. Pls excuse typos.
>
>El 27/04/2013, a las 16:19, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> escribió:
>
>
>Turn deck ON.
>>
>>- Do you get +12V right at the control motor? 
>>
>>- Do you get +24 at IC401 pin 8 and ground at IC401 pin 4? 
>>
>>I know you said you did, just checking  :-).
>>
>>
>>To continue: Press FF. 
>>
>>- Does Q401 collector go HIGH? 
>>
>>- If so, does Q426 collector go LOW and Q403 go LOW?
>>- If so, what are the voltages at IC401 pins 5, 6 and 7?
>>
>>
>>
>>Depending on results of the above, you are now fairly close to the source of the problem.
>>
>>
>>-- Ron
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>________________________________
>>> From: Luis Peromarta <luis at peromarta.org>
>>>To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <Naktalk at naks.com> 
>>>Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 12:01 PM
>>>Subject: [naktalk] Faulty 480Z
>>> 
>>>
>>>Friends. 
>>>
>>>This deck has been services and it
 just worked. 
>>>
>>>Suddenly, it has stopped responding to keys. 
>>>
>>>All DC rials strong. All keyboard signals to logic board good. 
>>>
>>>However these signals do not reach the control motor governor (4558) so the deck is not being commanded into play, ff, rew, etc. 
>>>
>>>Is there a inhibiting signal somewhere ? 
>>>
>>>Any other idea ?
>>>
>>>Best. LP
>>>
>>>Sent from iPhone. Pls excuse typos.
>>>========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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From icmllc at gmail.com  Sat Apr 27 00:37:19 2013
From: icmllc at gmail.com (Ashvin Srivastava)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 17:37:19 -0500
Subject: Res: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
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References: <2DA1DAF07B14404E8CBE5DA5683381FB0143BC@STVTEX06>
Message-ID: <0E918ACD-4353-4C3B-B9D5-14245DC13101@gmail.com>


http://www.atrtape.com/contact.php

Hope this helps.

Ashvin

On Apr 26, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Rodrigo Krause <rkrause at multiplan.com.br> wrote:

> ...And what manufacturer might that be? 
> Rodrigo Krause dos S. R. 
> Relações com Investidores 
> Multiplan S.A. 
> +55 21 3031-5600
> 
> De: naktalk-bounces at naks.com <naktalk-bounces at naks.com> 
> Para: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
> Enviada em: Fri Apr 26 09:34:07 2013
> Assunto: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel 
> 
> The issue is not the brand of tape. Its the age and thermal cycling.
> 
> Many studios that closed or went digital kept tapes in boxes in garages where it can freeze and then get like an oven.
> 
> These tapes separate at the magnetic oxide/substrate interface and its expensive or time consuming to clean the heads.
> 
> You have no idea what you are getting on ebay. Even the seller truly does not know. Be aware of this.
> 
> That is why its important to buy from the only existing manufacturer in the US.
> 
> Regards  
> 
> Ashvin
> 
> On Apr 25, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Bob Naylor <wotbob01 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Just my opinion but I like Maxell UD, or Maxell XL1. I've heard a lot of good about Synergy (sp?) but I've not tried them.
>> Bob
>> 
>> --- On Thu, 4/25/13, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> From: Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
>> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
>> Date: Thursday, April 25, 2013, 10:22 AM
>> 
>> from what i am told it looks like its in good condition, motors work, lights come on.
>> physical appearance is good. I think I will go for it.
>> 
>> unfortunately I don't have any reels. Does anyone know a good type / brand of reel and 
>> where to get em?
>> 
>> double boxing is a good idea
>> 
>> /Cy
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Ashvin Srivastava wrote:
>> 
>>> Make sure unit is double boxed. The spindles are protected.
>>> I own a lot of R2R's.
>>> Quite a few were destroyed in shipping.
>>> 
>>> Ashvin
>>> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Daniel Botelho <daniel.botelho at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yes!  Take it...parts are aplenty and it's relatively easy to maintain.  
>>>> 
>>>> I would go for it too, even with shipping.  Recordings sound GREAT on a reel to reel.  :)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Go for it. The T34 is a solid deck that delivers great Tascam performance. It's a simple deck that's built for heavy duty performance. There are a few seasoned Teac veterans I can direct you. PM me.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On 25/04/2013, at 7:06 PM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > hi naks,
>>>> >
>>>> > does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
>>>> > My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40 bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..
>>>> > she doesn't have any reels to check it.
>>>> > pros or cons? worth the risk?
>>>> >
>>>> > /Cy
>>>> >
>>>> >
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From le.cyrus at gmail.com  Sat Apr 27 02:33:44 2013
From: le.cyrus at gmail.com (Cyrus)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 20:33:44 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
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appreciate that


On Apr 26, 2013, at 11:49 AM, daniel.botelho at gmail.com wrote:

> I got reels. Lots of them! Used, but in good shape. Some are ampex, scotch, etc. 
> 
> If you got hubs, I got 10 inch reels... :) depending on where your located, I can ship them for a reasonable price.
> 
> Email me offline if you need a few. Thanks! 
> From: Francis Giddings
> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 11:38 PM
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Reply To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
> 
> On 4/25/2013 1:22 PM, Cyrus wrote:
>> from what i am told it looks like its in good condition, motors work, lights come on.
>> physical appearance is good. I think I will go for it.
>> 
>> unfortunately I don't have any reels. Does anyone know a good type / brand of reel and 
>> where to get em?
>> 
>> double boxing is a good idea
>> 
>> /Cy
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Ashvin Srivastava wrote:
>> 
>>> Make sure unit is double boxed. The spindles are protected.
>>> I own a lot of R2R's.
>>> Quite a few were destroyed in shipping.
>>> 
>>> Ashvin
>>> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Daniel Botelho <daniel.botelho at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yes!  Take it...parts are aplenty and it's relatively easy to maintain.  
>>>> 
>>>> I would go for it too, even with shipping.  Recordings sound GREAT on a reel to reel.  :)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Go for it. The T34 is a solid deck that delivers great Tascam performance. It's a simple deck that's built for heavy duty performance. There are a few seasoned Teac veterans I can direct you. PM me.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On 25/04/2013, at 7:06 PM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > hi naks,
>>>> >
>>>> > does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
>>>> > My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40 bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..
>>>> > she doesn't have any reels to check it.
>>>> > pros or cons? worth the risk?
>>>> >
>>>> > /Cy
>>>> >
>>>> >
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> Cyrus I have empty Revox 10 and 1/2 " metal reels Brand new never opened I can sell you for $20.00 each plus shipping.  Tape is available online 
>> 
>> usrecordingmedia.com/  and there are others.  
> 
> Fran Giddings
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From le.cyrus at gmail.com  Sat Apr 27 03:24:53 2013
From: le.cyrus at gmail.com (Cyrus)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 21:24:53 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
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would anyone have a Tascam 34 manual?
I cant seem to find it on the www.
I found the maintenance manual for the 34, 
and the user manual for the 34B model, but not the regular 34...


On Apr 26, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Daniel Botelho wrote:

> Ashvin, Very good (and valid) points.   
> 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Ashvin Srivastava <icmllc at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hope you guys can read this.
> 
> <image.jpeg>
> 
> <image.jpeg>
> 
> 
> 
> Ashvin
> 
> On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:50 AM, Bala Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> I second the Maxell, especially the UDXL. My next favourite was the old EMTEC 468. I think there's been some effort to restart production on them. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Bob Naylor <wotbob01 at yahoo.com>
>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
>> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 7:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
>> 
>> Just my opinion but I like Maxell UD, or Maxell XL1. I've heard a lot of good about Synergy (sp?) but I've not tried them.
>> Bob
>> 
>> --- On Thu, 4/25/13, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> From: Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
>> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
>> Date: Thursday, April 25, 2013, 10:22 AM
>> 
>> from what i am told it looks like its in good condition, motors work, lights come on.
>> physical appearance is good. I think I will go for it.
>> 
>> unfortunately I don't have any reels. Does anyone know a good type / brand of reel and 
>> where to get em?
>> 
>> double boxing is a good idea
>> 
>> /Cy
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Ashvin Srivastava wrote:
>> 
>>> Make sure unit is double boxed. The spindles are protected.
>>> I own a lot of R2R's.
>>> Quite a few were destroyed in shipping.
>>> 
>>> Ashvin
>>> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Daniel Botelho <daniel.botelho at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yes!  Take it...parts are aplenty and it's relatively easy to maintain.  
>>>> 
>>>> I would go for it too, even with shipping.  Recordings sound GREAT on a reel to reel.  :)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Go for it. The T34 is a solid deck that delivers great Tascam performance. It's a simple deck that's built for heavy duty performance. There are a few seasoned Teac veterans I can direct you. PM me.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On 25/04/2013, at 7:06 PM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > hi naks,
>>>> >
>>>> > does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
>>>> > My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40 bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..
>>>> > she doesn't have any reels to check it.
>>>> > pros or cons? worth the risk?
>>>> >
>>>> > /Cy
>>>> >
>>>> >
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>>>> > ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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From shoeihell at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 27 05:11:31 2013
From: shoeihell at yahoo.com (Kevin Fetner)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 20:11:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Reel to reel
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Actually it IS very dependent on tape brands and is called SSS(sticky-shed syndrome). It's a problem with the binder in many brands and in specific yrs. But this is a foolish argument with new tape out there like LPR35.  You're promoting tape formulas that are 40yrs old against the latest & greatest formulas. Any good tech can do a bias & equalization adjustment on your old deck, providing it can be tweaked far enough to accommodate the newer, hotter formulas. Most decks from the mid 70's on, can be adjusted for the newer tapes. If you have blank metal 10.5 reels you can buy pancakes which are cheaper yet. And LPR35 is just the entry point; there are many professional formulas being currently made. You'll pay more but you get more in QUALITY. Just because you buy an old deck doesn't mean you have to buy 40yr old tape.

Kevin

Message: 2
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 16:46:34 +0000
From: Rodrigo Krause <rkrause at multiplan.com.br>
Subject: Res: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
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...And what manufacturer might that be?
Rodrigo Krause dos S. R.
Relações com Investidores
Multiplan S.A.
+55 21 3031-5600

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De: naktalk-bounces at naks.com <naktalk-bounces at naks.com>
Para: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Enviada em: Fri Apr 26 09:34:07 2013
Assunto: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel

The issue is not the brand of tape. Its the age and thermal cycling.

Many studios that closed or went digital kept tapes in boxes in garages where it can freeze and then get like an oven.

These tapes separate at the magnetic oxide/substrate interface and its expensive or time consuming to clean the heads.

You have no idea what you are getting on ebay. Even the seller truly does not know. Be aware of this.

That is why its important to buy from the only existing manufacturer in the US.

Regards

Ashvin


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From ronami at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 28 18:14:03 2013
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 09:14:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 480Z manual
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Just went over this manual (freshly downloaded from the Naks.com site) and 

discovered that the amplifier section schematic (section 13.4, Page 60) is 

missing. Does anyone have this page?

Thanks in advance,

-- Ron
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From luis at peromarta.org  Sun Apr 28 20:45:30 2013
From: luis at peromarta.org (Luis Peromarta Regert)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 20:45:30 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 480Z manual
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Yes, I found it missing too. Ben, any chance you can have a quick scan?

Thanks a lot.
 LP.

El 28/04/2013, a las 18:14, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> escribió:

> 
> 
> Just went over this manual (freshly downloaded from the Naks.com site) and 
> discovered that the amplifier section schematic (section 13.4, Page 60) is 
> missing. Does anyone have this page?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> -- Ron
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From icmllc at gmail.com  Sun Apr 28 21:37:55 2013
From: icmllc at gmail.com (Ashvin Srivastava)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:37:55 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
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Try Tascam web site.

Ashvin

On Apr 26, 2013, at 8:24 PM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:

> would anyone have a Tascam 34 manual?
> I cant seem to find it on the www.
> I found the maintenance manual for the 34, 
> and the user manual for the 34B model, but not the regular 34...
> 
> 
> On Apr 26, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Daniel Botelho wrote:
> 
>> Ashvin, Very good (and valid) points.   
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Ashvin Srivastava <icmllc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hope you guys can read this.
>>> 
>>> <image.jpeg>
>>> 
>>> <image.jpeg>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ashvin
>>> 
>>> On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:50 AM, Bala Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I second the Maxell, especially the UDXL. My next favourite was the old EMTEC 468. I think there's been some effort to restart production on them. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: Bob Naylor <wotbob01 at yahoo.com>
>>>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 7:50 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
>>>> 
>>>> Just my opinion but I like Maxell UD, or Maxell XL1. I've heard a lot of good about Synergy (sp?) but I've not tried them.
>>>> Bob
>>>> 
>>>> --- On Thu, 4/25/13, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> From: Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
>>>> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
>>>> Date: Thursday, April 25, 2013, 10:22 AM
>>>> 
>>>> from what i am told it looks like its in good condition, motors work, lights come on.
>>>> physical appearance is good. I think I will go for it.
>>>> 
>>>> unfortunately I don't have any reels. Does anyone know a good type / brand of reel and 
>>>> where to get em?
>>>> 
>>>> double boxing is a good idea
>>>> 
>>>> /Cy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Ashvin Srivastava wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Make sure unit is double boxed. The spindles are protected.
>>>>> I own a lot of R2R's.
>>>>> Quite a few were destroyed in shipping.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ashvin
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Daniel Botelho <daniel.botelho at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes!  Take it...parts are aplenty and it's relatively easy to maintain.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would go for it too, even with shipping.  Recordings sound GREAT on a reel to reel.  :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Go for it. The T34 is a solid deck that delivers great Tascam performance. It's a simple deck that's built for heavy duty performance. There are a few seasoned Teac veterans I can direct you. PM me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 25/04/2013, at 7:06 PM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > hi naks,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
>>>>>> > My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40 bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..
>>>>>> > she doesn't have any reels to check it.
>>>>>> > pros or cons? worth the risk?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > /Cy
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>>>> >          Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
>>>>>> > ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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From dovhilton at gmail.com  Mon Apr 29 05:24:42 2013
From: dovhilton at gmail.com (David Hilton)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 13:24:42 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 480Z manual
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Here is complete Manual
Regards
David


On 29 April 2013 02:14, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> Just went over this manual (freshly downloaded from the Naks.com site) and
> discovered that the amplifier section schematic (section 13.4, Page 60) is
> missing. Does anyone have this page?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> -- Ron
>
>
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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From icmllc at gmail.com  Mon Apr 29 06:06:34 2013
From: icmllc at gmail.com (ashvin srivastava)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 23:06:34 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Reel to reel
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Kevin,

I want to make a couple of comments on magnetic tape (oxide or metal
particle)

1.) Essentially the hyteretic curve of ferrimagnetic and ferromagnetic
particle based tapes is very well understood.  The crystal physics is
fundamentally well understood since the late 60's.  Most of the variations
on the B-H hysteretic curve was a function of crystal, cation-modifications
in the crystal as it related to "poly-crystallinf" grains.  Over the years
the proces of precipitating or grinding these powders, maintaining tight
particle size distributions and forming the two layer sandwich uniformly,
has been more fertile grounds for technological advancements. Starting from
the gamma-Fe2O3 to the chrome oxides to the ferro-chrome to the metal
particle.......compositional knowledge has been known for a long. long time.

2.) When one takes two dissimilar materials such as a polymer and a ceramic
oxide or metal particle which is compacted and sandwiched to the polymer,
and this sandwich is put through severe thermal cycling, the stresses
caused by the delta in thermal expansion coeficient will induce extreme
conditions leading to delamination, no matter how good the interfacial
glue/binder is.  If this happens under stable studio conditions it is
really bad tape.

Now, remember this discussion was not catering to an Abbey Road recording
engineer getting ready to pull out his 2" 24 track, 30ips Studer and record
"Sargent Peppers Lonely Hearts Band." He is rather concerned about spending
$40 plus shipping on a R2R ...

ashvin

On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Kevin Fetner <shoeihell at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Actually it IS very dependent on tape brands and is called SSS(sticky-shed
> syndrome). It's a problem with the binder in many brands and in specific
> yrs. But this is a foolish argument with new tape out there like LPR35.
> You're promoting tape formulas that are 40yrs old against the latest &
> greatest formulas. Any good tech can do a bias & equalization adjustment on
> your old deck, providing it can be tweaked far enough to accommodate the
> newer, hotter formulas. Most decks from the mid 70's on, can be adjusted
> for the newer tapes. If you have blank metal 10.5 reels you can buy
> pancakes which are cheaper yet. And LPR35 is just the entry point; there
> are many professional formulas being currently made. You'll pay more but
> you get more in QUALITY. Just because you buy an old deck doesn't mean you
> have to buy 40yr old tape.
>
> Kevin
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 16:46:34 +0000
> From: Rodrigo Krause <rkrause at multiplan.com.br>
> Subject: Res: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
> To: "'naktalk at naks.com'" <naktalk at naks.com>
> Message-ID: <2DA1DAF07B14404E8CBE5DA5683381FB0143BC at STVTEX06>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> ...And what manufacturer might that be?
> Rodrigo Krause dos S. R.
> Relações com Investidores
> Multiplan S.A.
> +55 21 3031-5600
>
> ________________________________
> De: naktalk-bounces at naks.com <naktalk-bounces at naks.com>
> Para: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
> Enviada em: Fri Apr 26 09:34:07 2013
> Assunto: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
>
> The issue is not the brand of tape. Its the age and thermal cycling.
>
> Many studios that closed or went digital kept tapes in boxes in garages
> where it can freeze and then get like an oven.
>
> These tapes separate at the magnetic oxide/substrate interface and its
> expensive or time consuming to clean the heads.
>
> You have no idea what you are getting on ebay. Even the seller truly does
> not know. Be aware of this.
>
> That is why its important to buy from the only existing manufacturer in
> the US.
>
> Regards
>
> Ashvin
>
>   ------------------------------
>
>
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>           Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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From luis at peromarta.org  Mon Apr 29 11:19:11 2013
From: luis at peromarta.org (Luis Peromarta)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:19:11 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 480Z manual
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Thank You so much!!

LP

Sent from iPhone. Pls excuse typos.

El 29/04/2013, a las 05:24, David Hilton <dovhilton at gmail.com> escribió:

> Here is complete Manual
> Regards
> David
> 
> 
> On 29 April 2013 02:14, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Just went over this manual (freshly downloaded from the Naks.com site) and 
>> discovered that the amplifier section schematic (section 13.4, Page 60) is 
>> missing. Does anyone have this page?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> 
>> -- Ron
>> 
>> 
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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> 
> 
> -- 
> David Hilton
> 104/1 Boomerang Place
> Woolloomooloo
> Sydney NSW 2011
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> Mbl 04214 72692
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> Skype dovhilton
> <Nakamichi 480Z SM.pdf>
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 29 17:20:05 2013
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 08:20:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 480Z manual
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Thanks much, David.  


-- Ron






>________________________________
> From: David Hilton <dovhilton at gmail.com>
>To: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
>Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 11:24 PM
>Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi 480Z manual
> 
>
>
>Here is complete Manual
>Regards
>David
>
>
>
>On 29 April 2013 02:14, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>Just went over this manual (freshly downloaded from the Naks.com site) and 
>>
>>discovered that the amplifier section schematic (section 13.4, Page 60) is 
>>
>>missing. Does anyone have this page?
>>
>>
>>Thanks in advance,
>>
>>
>>-- Ron
>>
>>
>>========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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>
>
>
>-- 
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>104/1 Boomerang Place
>Woolloomooloo
>Sydney NSW 2011
>Tel (02) 9 360 7268 H
>Mbl 04214 72692
>W (02) 9267 2477
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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 30 08:36:11 2013
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 16:36:11 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
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Try googling for the other models in that series like the 32. They are similar except that more or less tracks apply. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 27/04/2013, at 11:24 AM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:

> would anyone have a Tascam 34 manual?
> I cant seem to find it on the www.
> I found the maintenance manual for the 34, 
> and the user manual for the 34B model, but not the regular 34...
> 
> 
> On Apr 26, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Daniel Botelho wrote:
> 
>> Ashvin, Very good (and valid) points.   
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Ashvin Srivastava <icmllc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hope you guys can read this.
>>> 
>>> <image.jpeg>
>>> 
>>> <image.jpeg>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ashvin
>>> 
>>> On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:50 AM, Bala Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I second the Maxell, especially the UDXL. My next favourite was the old EMTEC 468. I think there's been some effort to restart production on them. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: Bob Naylor <wotbob01 at yahoo.com>
>>>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 7:50 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
>>>> 
>>>> Just my opinion but I like Maxell UD, or Maxell XL1. I've heard a lot of good about Synergy (sp?) but I've not tried them.
>>>> Bob
>>>> 
>>>> --- On Thu, 4/25/13, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> From: Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
>>>> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
>>>> Date: Thursday, April 25, 2013, 10:22 AM
>>>> 
>>>> from what i am told it looks like its in good condition, motors work, lights come on.
>>>> physical appearance is good. I think I will go for it.
>>>> 
>>>> unfortunately I don't have any reels. Does anyone know a good type / brand of reel and 
>>>> where to get em?
>>>> 
>>>> double boxing is a good idea
>>>> 
>>>> /Cy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Ashvin Srivastava wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Make sure unit is double boxed. The spindles are protected.
>>>>> I own a lot of R2R's.
>>>>> Quite a few were destroyed in shipping.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ashvin
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Daniel Botelho <daniel.botelho at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes!  Take it...parts are aplenty and it's relatively easy to maintain.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would go for it too, even with shipping.  Recordings sound GREAT on a reel to reel.  :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Go for it. The T34 is a solid deck that delivers great Tascam performance. It's a simple deck that's built for heavy duty performance. There are a few seasoned Teac veterans I can direct you. PM me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 25/04/2013, at 7:06 PM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > hi naks,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
>>>>>> > My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40 bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..
>>>>>> > she doesn't have any reels to check it.
>>>>>> > pros or cons? worth the risk?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > /Cy
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 30 10:35:41 2013
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 18:35:41 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Reel to reel
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Hi Ashvin,

While tape is relatively stable for a long time, what happens is with especially higher speed tape, and under challenging storage conditions is something to consider. 

I've had some of my father's 7.5 Ips recordings come back perfectly while 15ips tape made almost ten years later have had so much of drop outs we had to retransfer them. 

Both are good tape. But it was a time when there were various grades of tapes and different reactions resulted. GP9 masters I made more then a decade ago are still in good shape and sound pristine on my PR99 till to day. 

I would strongly recommend setting up the deck for a new formulation and stick with it. The OP is lucky he doesn't have legacy recordings to worry about. 

Cheers, 
Bala

Sent from my iPhone

On 29/04/2013, at 2:06 PM, ashvin srivastava <icmllc at gmail.com> wrote:

> Kevin,
> 
> I want to make a couple of comments on magnetic tape (oxide or metal particle)
> 
> 1.) Essentially the hyteretic curve of ferrimagnetic and ferromagnetic particle based tapes is very well understood.  The crystal physics is fundamentally well understood since the late 60's.  Most of the variations on the B-H hysteretic curve was a function of crystal, cation-modifications in the crystal as it related to "poly-crystallinf" grains.  Over the years the proces of precipitating or grinding these powders, maintaining tight particle size distributions and forming the two layer sandwich uniformly, has been more fertile grounds for technological advancements. Starting from the gamma-Fe2O3 to the chrome oxides to the ferro-chrome to the metal particle.......compositional knowledge has been known for a long. long time.
> 
> 2.) When one takes two dissimilar materials such as a polymer and a ceramic oxide or metal particle which is compacted and sandwiched to the polymer, and this sandwich is put through severe thermal cycling, the stresses caused by the delta in thermal expansion coeficient will induce extreme conditions leading to delamination, no matter how good the interfacial glue/binder is.  If this happens under stable studio conditions it is really bad tape.  
> 
> Now, remember this discussion was not catering to an Abbey Road recording engineer getting ready to pull out his 2" 24 track, 30ips Studer and record "Sargent Peppers Lonely Hearts Band." He is rather concerned about spending $40 plus shipping on a R2R ...
> 
> ashvin
> 
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Kevin Fetner <shoeihell at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Actually it IS very dependent on tape brands and is called SSS(sticky-shed syndrome). It's a problem with the binder in many brands and in specific yrs. But this is a foolish argument with new tape out there like LPR35.  You're promoting tape formulas that are 40yrs old against the latest & greatest formulas. Any good tech can do a bias & equalization adjustment on your old deck, providing it can be tweaked far enough to accommodate the newer, hotter formulas. Most decks from the mid 70's on, can be adjusted for the newer tapes. If you have blank metal 10.5 reels you can buy pancakes which are cheaper yet. And LPR35 is just the entry point; there are many professional formulas being currently made. You'll pay more but you get more in QUALITY. Just because you buy an old deck doesn't mean you have to buy 40yr old tape.
>> 
>> Kevin
>> 
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 16:46:34 +0000
>> From: Rodrigo Krause <rkrause at multiplan.com.br>
>> Subject: Res: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
>> To: "'naktalk at naks.com'" <naktalk at naks.com>
>> Message-ID: <2DA1DAF07B14404E8CBE5DA5683381FB0143BC at STVTEX06>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> ...And what manufacturer might that be?
>> Rodrigo Krause dos S. R.
>> Relações com Investidores
>> Multiplan S.A.
>> +55 21 3031-5600
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> De: naktalk-bounces at naks.com <naktalk-bounces at naks.com>
>> Para: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>> Enviada em: Fri Apr 26 09:34:07 2013
>> Assunto: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
>> 
>> The issue is not the brand of tape. Its the age and thermal cycling.
>> 
>> Many studios that closed or went digital kept tapes in boxes in garages where it can freeze and then get like an oven.
>> 
>> These tapes separate at the magnetic oxide/substrate interface and its expensive or time consuming to clean the heads.
>> 
>> You have no idea what you are getting on ebay. Even the seller truly does not know. Be aware of this.
>> 
>> That is why its important to buy from the only existing manufacturer in the US.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Ashvin
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>           Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>                         Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
>> Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
> 
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>          Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
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From: shoeihell at yahoo.com (Kevin Fetner)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 06:47:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Reel to reel
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________________________________
Ashvin,
Now that you've dazzled us with your knowledge of metal particles and binding of magnetic tape, the point still stands
 that the predominance of problems with old tape revolve around SSS. It's well documented even down to brands and yrs of manufacture. Since 1/4" LPR35 is a entry level RMGI new tape, it has all the advantages over 40+yr old tape, especially the brands and yrs known to cause SSS. It's also hotter and better spec-ed. So, it's not like I'm suggesting to buy the more expensive, studio master RMGI or ATR tape for an old machine that someone pays $40 for...I'm just suggesting that if someone is going to restore a machine and do reasonably serious recording, have it calibrated for a tape like LPR35. Most of us serious reelers have done exactly that. Use the RMGI and ATR master tapes for live recordings of value. 

Kevin
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Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Reel to reel
To: Kevin Fetner <shoeihell at yahoo.com>,    Talk about Nakamichi Cassette
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Kevin,

I want to make a couple of comments on magnetic tape (oxide or metal
particle)

1.) Essentially the hyteretic curve of ferrimagnetic and ferromagnetic
particle based tapes is very well understood.  The crystal physics is
fundamentally well understood since the late 60's.  Most of the variations
on the B-H
 hysteretic curve was a function of crystal, cation-modifications
in the crystal as it related to "poly-crystallinf" grains.  Over the years
the proces of precipitating or grinding these powders, maintaining tight
particle size distributions and forming the two layer sandwich uniformly,
has been more fertile grounds for technological advancements. Starting from
the gamma-Fe2O3 to the chrome oxides to the ferro-chrome to the metal
particle.......compositional knowledge has been known for a long. long time.

2.) When one takes two dissimilar materials such as a polymer and a ceramic
oxide or metal particle which is compacted and sandwiched to the polymer,
and this sandwich is put through severe thermal cycling, the stresses
caused by the delta in thermal expansion coeficient will induce extreme
conditions leading to delamination, no matter how good the interfacial
glue/binder is.  If this happens under
 stable studio conditions it is
really bad tape.

Now, remember this discussion was not catering to an Abbey Road recording
engineer getting ready to pull out his 2" 24 track, 30ips Studer and record
"Sargent Peppers Lonely Hearts Band." He is rather concerned about spending
$40 plus shipping on a R2R ...

ashvin
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From icmllc at gmail.com  Tue Apr 30 16:12:58 2013
From: icmllc at gmail.com (Ashvin)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:12:58 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Reel to reel
Message-ID: <05ivg5j7pew64b2vwhijblep.1367331178662@email.android.com>

Bala
Im in full agreement.
Ashvin
Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S™4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

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From: Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> 
Date: 04/30/2013  3:35 AM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Reel to reel 
 
Hi Ashvin,

While tape is relatively stable for a long time, what happens is with especially higher speed tape, and under challenging storage conditions is something to consider. 

I've had some of my father's 7.5 Ips recordings come back perfectly while 15ips tape made almost ten years later have had so much of drop outs we had to retransfer them. 

Both are good tape. But it was a time when there were various grades of tapes and different reactions resulted. GP9 masters I made more then a decade ago are still in good shape and sound pristine on my PR99 till to day. 

I would strongly recommend setting up the deck for a new formulation and stick with it. The OP is lucky he doesn't have legacy recordings to worry about. 

Cheers, 
Bala

Sent from my iPhone

On 29/04/2013, at 2:06 PM, ashvin srivastava <icmllc at gmail.com> wrote:

Kevin,

I want to make a couple of comments on magnetic tape (oxide or metal particle)

1.) Essentially the hyteretic curve of ferrimagnetic and ferromagnetic particle based tapes is very well understood.  The crystal physics is fundamentally well understood since the late 60's.  Most of the variations on the B-H hysteretic curve was a function of crystal, cation-modifications in the crystal as it related to "poly-crystallinf" grains.  Over the years the proces of precipitating or grinding these powders, maintaining tight particle size distributions and forming the two layer sandwich uniformly, has been more fertile grounds for technological advancements. Starting from the gamma-Fe2O3 to the chrome oxides to the ferro-chrome to the metal particle.......compositional knowledge has been known for a long. long time.

2.) When one takes two dissimilar materials such as a polymer and a ceramic oxide or metal particle which is compacted and sandwiched to the polymer, and this sandwich is put through severe thermal cycling, the stresses caused by the delta in thermal expansion coeficient will induce extreme conditions leading to delamination, no matter how good the interfacial glue/binder is.  If this happens under stable studio conditions it is really bad tape.  

Now, remember this discussion was not catering to an Abbey Road recording engineer getting ready to pull out his 2" 24 track, 30ips Studer and record "Sargent Peppers Lonely Hearts Band." He is rather concerned about spending $40 plus shipping on a R2R ...

ashvin

On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Kevin Fetner <shoeihell at yahoo.com> wrote:
Actually it IS very dependent on tape brands and is called SSS(sticky-shed syndrome). It's a problem with the binder in many brands and in specific yrs. But this is a foolish argument with new tape out there like LPR35.  You're promoting tape formulas that are 40yrs old against the latest & greatest formulas. Any good tech can do a bias & equalization adjustment on your old deck, providing it can be tweaked far enough to accommodate the newer, hotter formulas. Most decks from the mid 70's on, can be adjusted for the newer tapes. If you have blank metal 10.5 reels you can buy pancakes which are cheaper yet. And LPR35 is just the entry point; there are many professional formulas being currently made. You'll pay more but you get more in QUALITY. Just because you buy an old deck doesn't mean you have to buy 40yr old tape.

Kevin

Message: 2
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 16:46:34 +0000
From: Rodrigo Krause <rkrause at multiplan.com.br>
Subject: Res: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
To: "'naktalk at naks.com'" <naktalk at naks.com>
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...And what manufacturer might that be?
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________________________________
De: naktalk-bounces at naks.com <naktalk-bounces at naks.com>
Para: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Enviada em: Fri Apr 26 09:34:07 2013
Assunto: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel

The issue is not the brand of tape. Its the age and thermal cycling.

Many studios that closed or went digital kept tapes in boxes in garages where it can freeze and then get like an oven.

These tapes separate at the magnetic oxide/substrate interface and its expensive or time consuming to clean the heads.

You have no idea what you are getting on ebay. Even the seller truly does not know. Be aware of this.

That is why its important to buy from the only existing manufacturer in the US.

Regards

Ashvin



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From le.cyrus at gmail.com  Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2013
From: le.cyrus at gmail.com (Cyrus Shirali)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 12:09:53 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
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thanks, i am still searching. i can probably use most of the 34b manual. seems like there only a few small changes


On Apr 30, 2013, at 2:36 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Try googling for the other models in that series like the 32. They are similar except that more or less tracks apply. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 27/04/2013, at 11:24 AM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> would anyone have a Tascam 34 manual?
>> I cant seem to find it on the www.
>> I found the maintenance manual for the 34, 
>> and the user manual for the 34B model, but not the regular 34...
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 26, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Daniel Botelho wrote:
>> 
>>> Ashvin, Very good (and valid) points.   
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Ashvin Srivastava <icmllc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hope you guys can read this.
>>> 
>>> <image.jpeg>
>>> 
>>> <image.jpeg>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ashvin
>>> 
>>> On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:50 AM, Bala Ganesh Chandra <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I second the Maxell, especially the UDXL. My next favourite was the old EMTEC 468. I think there's been some effort to restart production on them. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: Bob Naylor <wotbob01 at yahoo.com>
>>>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 7:50 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
>>>> 
>>>> Just my opinion but I like Maxell UD, or Maxell XL1. I've heard a lot of good about Synergy (sp?) but I've not tried them.
>>>> Bob
>>>> 
>>>> --- On Thu, 4/25/13, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> From: Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
>>>> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
>>>> Date: Thursday, April 25, 2013, 10:22 AM
>>>> 
>>>> from what i am told it looks like its in good condition, motors work, lights come on.
>>>> physical appearance is good. I think I will go for it.
>>>> 
>>>> unfortunately I don't have any reels. Does anyone know a good type / brand of reel and 
>>>> where to get em?
>>>> 
>>>> double boxing is a good idea
>>>> 
>>>> /Cy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Ashvin Srivastava wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Make sure unit is double boxed. The spindles are protected.
>>>>> I own a lot of R2R's.
>>>>> Quite a few were destroyed in shipping.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ashvin
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Daniel Botelho <daniel.botelho at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes!  Take it...parts are aplenty and it's relatively easy to maintain.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would go for it too, even with shipping.  Recordings sound GREAT on a reel to reel.  :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Go for it. The T34 is a solid deck that delivers great Tascam performance. It's a simple deck that's built for heavy duty performance. There are a few seasoned Teac veterans I can direct you. PM me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 25/04/2013, at 7:06 PM, Cyrus <le.cyrus at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > hi naks,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > does anyone here know anything about reel to reel machines?
>>>>>> > My relative is offering me a Tascam 34 (not 34B)  4 track, for $40 bucks, i have to pay shipping. they dont know much about it, neither do I..
>>>>>> > she doesn't have any reels to check it.
>>>>>> > pros or cons? worth the risk?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > /Cy
>>>>>> >
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From icmllc at gmail.com  Tue Apr 30 18:10:25 2013
From: icmllc at gmail.com (ashvin srivastava)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 11:10:25 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Reel to reel
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Kevin,
You are dazzeled too easily. I didnt even put one tensor equation in there.

We are on the same page. I pasted a picture of a book on Analogue Recording
which stated the exact same thing. No worries.

Your remark on modern "compositions" caught my eye.

(e-mails tend to remove 80% of the communication element. Did not mean to
dazzle or offend)

On Monday, April 29, 2013, Kevin Fetner wrote:

>
>
>   ------------------------------
> **Ashvin,
> Now that you've dazzled us with your knowledge of metal particles and
> binding of magnetic tape, the point still stands that the predominance of
> problems with old tape revolve around SSS. It's well documented even down
> to brands and yrs of manufacture. Since 1/4" LPR35 is a entry level RMGI
> new tape, it has all the advantages over 40+yr old tape, especially the
> brands and yrs known to cause SSS. It's also hotter and better spec-ed. So,
> it's not like I'm suggesting to buy the more expensive, studio master RMGI
> or ATR tape for an old machine that someone pays $40 for...I'm just
> suggesting that if someone is going to restore a machine and do reasonably
> serious recording, have it calibrated for a tape like LPR35. Most of us
> serious reelers have done exactly that. Use the RMGI and ATR master tapes
> for live recordings of value.
>
> Kevin
> ________________________________________
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 23:06:34 -0500
> From: ashvin srivastava <icmllc at gmail.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'icmllc at gmail.com');>>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Reel to reel
> To: Kevin Fetner <shoeihell at yahoo.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'shoeihell at yahoo.com');>>,    Talk about Nakamichi Cassette
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> Kevin,
>
> I want to make a couple of comments on magnetic tape (oxide or metal
> particle)
>
> 1.) Essentially the hyteretic curve of ferrimagnetic and ferromagnetic
> particle based tapes is very well understood.  The crystal physics is
> fundamentally well understood since the late 60's.  Most of the variations
> on the B-H hysteretic curve was a function of crystal, cation-modifications
> in the crystal as it related to "poly-crystallinf" grains.  Over the years
> the proces of precipitating or grinding these powders, maintaining tight
> particle size distributions and forming the two layer sandwich uniformly,
> has been more fertile grounds for technological advancements. Starting from
> the gamma-Fe2O3 to the chrome oxides to the ferro-chrome to the metal
> particle.......compositional knowledge has been known for a long. long
> time.
>
> 2.) When one takes two dissimilar materials such as a polymer and a ceramic
> oxide or metal particle which is compacted and sandwiched to the polymer,
> and this sandwich is put through severe thermal cycling, the stresses
> caused by the delta in thermal expansion coeficient will induce extreme
> conditions leading to delamination, no matter how good the interfacial
> glue/binder is.  If this happens under stable studio conditions it is
> really bad tape.
>
> Now, remember this discussion was not catering to an Abbey Road recording
> engineer getting ready to pull out his 2" 24 track, 30ips Studer and record
> "Sargent Peppers Lonely Hearts Band." He is rather concerned about spending
> $40 plus shipping on a R2R ...
>
> ashvin
>
>
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From aburkhart at unilect.com  Tue Apr 30 18:19:46 2013
From: aburkhart at unilect.com (Andrew Burkhart)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:19:46 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Reel to reel
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Bala,

Did you bake the tape before transferring? I've had R2R's since the 70's and most every Ampex/Quantegy, 3M/Scotch formulation from the 70's - 90's suffered SSS (sticky shed syndrome) and requires a controlled temp bake to make them playable. 

Oddly, the Japanese tapes (Maxell & TDK) don't suffer from this. They have a different binder formulation that doesn't hydrate (in simple terms). 

I have some 2000 era Quantegy & Emtec tape and supposedly they had changed the formulations to prevent SSS, but I haven't tested it yet.  

Also have not tried any of the current tapes from RMGI or ATR.  I wonder how those will hold up over time. 

Andrew
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 30, 2013, at 1:35 AM, Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi Ashvin,
> 
> While tape is relatively stable for a long time, what happens is with especially higher speed tape, and under challenging storage conditions is something to consider. 
> 
> I've had some of my father's 7.5 Ips recordings come back perfectly while 15ips tape made almost ten years later have had so much of drop outs we had to retransfer them. 
> 
> Both are good tape. But it was a time when there were various grades of tapes and different reactions resulted. GP9 masters I made more then a decade ago are still in good shape and sound pristine on my PR99 till to day. 
> 
> I would strongly recommend setting up the deck for a new formulation and stick with it. The OP is lucky he doesn't have legacy recordings to worry about. 
> 
> Cheers, 
> Bala
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 29/04/2013, at 2:06 PM, ashvin srivastava <icmllc at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Kevin,
>> 
>> I want to make a couple of comments on magnetic tape (oxide or metal particle)
>> 
>> 1.) Essentially the hyteretic curve of ferrimagnetic and ferromagnetic particle based tapes is very well understood.  The crystal physics is fundamentally well understood since the late 60's.  Most of the variations on the B-H hysteretic curve was a function of crystal, cation-modifications in the crystal as it related to "poly-crystallinf" grains.  Over the years the proces of precipitating or grinding these powders, maintaining tight particle size distributions and forming the two layer sandwich uniformly, has been more fertile grounds for technological advancements. Starting from the gamma-Fe2O3 to the chrome oxides to the ferro-chrome to the metal particle.......compositional knowledge has been known for a long. long time.
>> 
>> 2.) When one takes two dissimilar materials such as a polymer and a ceramic oxide or metal particle which is compacted and sandwiched to the polymer, and this sandwich is put through severe thermal cycling, the stresses caused by the delta in thermal expansion coeficient will induce extreme conditions leading to delamination, no matter how good the interfacial glue/binder is.  If this happens under stable studio conditions it is really bad tape.  
>> 
>> Now, remember this discussion was not catering to an Abbey Road recording engineer getting ready to pull out his 2" 24 track, 30ips Studer and record "Sargent Peppers Lonely Hearts Band." He is rather concerned about spending $40 plus shipping on a R2R ...
>> 
>> ashvin
>> 
>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Kevin Fetner <shoeihell at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Actually it IS very dependent on tape brands and is called SSS(sticky-shed syndrome). It's a problem with the binder in many brands and in specific yrs. But this is a foolish argument with new tape out there like LPR35.  You're promoting tape formulas that are 40yrs old against the latest & greatest formulas. Any good tech can do a bias & equalization adjustment on your old deck, providing it can be tweaked far enough to accommodate the newer, hotter formulas. Most decks from the mid 70's on, can be adjusted for the newer tapes. If you have blank metal 10.5 reels you can buy pancakes which are cheaper yet. And LPR35 is just the entry point; there are many professional formulas being currently made. You'll pay more but you get more in QUALITY. Just because you buy an old deck doesn't mean you have to buy 40yr old tape.
>>> 
>>> Kevin
>>> 
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 16:46:34 +0000
>>> From: Rodrigo Krause <rkrause at multiplan.com.br>
>>> Subject: Res: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
>>> To: "'naktalk at naks.com'" <naktalk at naks.com>
>>> Message-ID: <2DA1DAF07B14404E8CBE5DA5683381FB0143BC at STVTEX06>
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>>> ...And what manufacturer might that be?
>>> Rodrigo Krause dos S. R.
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>>> De: naktalk-bounces at naks.com <naktalk-bounces at naks.com>
>>> Para: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>>> Enviada em: Fri Apr 26 09:34:07 2013
>>> Assunto: Re: [naktalk] reel 2 reel
>>> 
>>> The issue is not the brand of tape. Its the age and thermal cycling.
>>> 
>>> Many studios that closed or went digital kept tapes in boxes in garages where it can freeze and then get like an oven.
>>> 
>>> These tapes separate at the magnetic oxide/substrate interface and its expensive or time consuming to clean the heads.
>>> 
>>> You have no idea what you are getting on ebay. Even the seller truly does not know. Be aware of this.
>>> 
>>> That is why its important to buy from the only existing manufacturer in the US.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Ashvin
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From bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk  Tue Apr 30 18:25:46 2013
From: bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk (Ben Stratford)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 17:25:46 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] 482 Transport Rebuild
Message-ID: <DUB121-W83D8198906519BE4D423890B30@phx.gbl>

This latest deck had the usual mechanical woes from long term storage:  Frozen pinch rollers - the left hand one was VERY frozen and took ages to free off.  During the rebuild, I noticed that the flywheels seemed to rub on the base plate - the thrust washers were there but look quite flat.  QUESTION: Is it normal to have to bend these back to shape along the crease lines to get the required clearance?  The worst ISSUE that I have had to deal with is the retaining screw clamp affair that holds the end of the eject cable in place and allows tensioning / adjustment, had broken off.  This was repaired with a metal u shaped bracket that had a hole in the top so the adjustment screw could be in the normal place and the bracket was then screwed to the sides of the plastic housing - taking care not to foul the cable end, and being small enough to fit within the plate sandwich.  Difficult to explain very well, but I can supply a photo should anyone else have this repair to do.  My spare 482 transport also had one half of the plastic top piece cracked so will need a similar repair.  Probably why the design changed for later decks. Many Thanks, Ben  		 	   		  
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From emberphoto at hotmail.com  Tue Apr 30 18:41:00 2013
From: emberphoto at hotmail.com (Steve Ember)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 12:41:00 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Reel to reel
In-Reply-To: <1367243236.34093.YahooMailNeo@web162806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <201304291103.r3TAtVa3017819@zxe.naks.com>,
	<1367243236.34093.YahooMailNeo@web162806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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Hello, all, and especially Kevin. 
I wonder if, at your convenience, Kevin, you could share with us the tape brands, types, and years of manufacture that suffer from the dreaded sticky shedding phenomenon.Anyone newly discovering open reel will most certainly benefit from this knowledge, as cleaning the heads, rollers, and guides is no picnic, as all of us who've ever had to do it in archiving old material know so well!
If I may, I'll get the list going with the notoriously screechy/sheddy Ampex 406 (1.5 mil) and 407 (1.0 mil) professional tapes produced in the 70's/early 80s. Steer a VERY wide course around this stuff.
Steve

Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 06:47:16 -0700
From: shoeihell at yahoo.com
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Reel to reel


     Ashvin,
Now that you've dazzled us with your knowledge of metal particles and binding of magnetic tape, the point still stands
 that the predominance of problems with old tape revolve around SSS. It's well documented even down to brands and yrs of manufacture. Since 1/4" LPR35 is a entry level RMGI new tape, it has all the advantages over 40+yr old tape, especially the brands and yrs known to cause SSS. It's also hotter and better spec-ed. So, it's not like I'm suggesting to buy the more expensive, studio master RMGI or ATR tape for an old machine that someone pays $40 for...I'm just suggesting that if someone is going to restore a machine and do reasonably serious recording, have it calibrated for a tape like LPR35. Most of us serious reelers have done exactly that. Use the RMGI and ATR master tapes for live recordings of value. 

Kevin
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 23:06:34 -0500
From: ashvin srivastava <icmllc at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Reel to reel
To: Kevin Fetner <shoeihell at yahoo.com>,    Talk about Nakamichi Cassette
    Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID:
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Kevin,

I want to make a couple of comments on magnetic tape (oxide or metal
particle)

1.) Essentially the hyteretic
 curve of ferrimagnetic and ferromagnetic
particle based tapes is very well understood.  The crystal physics is
fundamentally well understood since the late 60's.  Most of the variations
on the B-H
 hysteretic curve was a function of crystal, cation-modifications
in the crystal as it related to "poly-crystallinf" grains.  Over the years
the proces of precipitating or grinding these powders, maintaining tight
particle size distributions and forming the two layer sandwich uniformly,
has been more fertile grounds for technological advancements. Starting from
the gamma-Fe2O3 to the chrome oxides to the ferro-chrome to the metal
particle.......compositional knowledge has been known for a long. long time.

2.) When one takes two dissimilar materials such as a polymer and a ceramic
oxide or metal particle which is compacted and sandwiched to the polymer,
and this sandwich is put through severe thermal cycling, the stresses
caused by the delta in thermal expansion coeficient will induce extreme
conditions leading to delamination, no matter how good the interfacial
glue/binder is.  If this happens under
 stable studio conditions it is
really bad tape.

Now, remember this discussion was not catering to an Abbey Road recording
engineer getting ready to pull out his 2" 24 track, 30ips Studer and record
"Sargent Peppers Lonely Hearts Band." He is rather concerned about spending
$40 plus shipping on a R2R ...

ashvin


    
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From kaupp240 at hotmail.com  Fri Aug  9 03:14:56 2013
From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com (Cheryl Kaupp)
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 15:14:56 -1000
Subject: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP1051BBF038B37B677FE6E3B86580@phx.gbl>

Patty has an unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 cassettes if anyone is
interested.
 
Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
 
Aloha,
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From icmllc at gmail.com  Sat Aug 10 01:16:52 2013
From: icmllc at gmail.com (ashvin srivastava)
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 18:16:52 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
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How much are you charging
On Aug 8, 2013 8:41 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> **
> Patty has an unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 cassettes if anyone is
> interested.
>
> Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
>
> Aloha,
> Cheryl
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From charles at njau.se  Sat Aug 10 08:02:54 2013
From: charles at njau.se (Charles A Njau)
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 08:02:54 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] BBC News - Vinyl fans in spin over New York Public
	Library's record sale
Message-ID: <9773BD39-582F-45F6-96B1-202220B17E9A@njau.se>

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23644473





From kaupp240 at hotmail.com  Sat Aug 10 19:06:49 2013
From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com (Cheryl Kaupp)
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:06:49 -1000
Subject: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
In-Reply-To: <CACSsU2PkPuwaLpaU40ir+3OmhR2mSjxkwud0ZyJi1Q4afs4wAA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP280A91AE0A545EE9B943A6C86590@phx.gbl>

Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.

  _____  

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of ashvin srivastava
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 1:17 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale



How much are you charging

On Aug 8, 2013 8:41 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:



Patty has an unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 cassettes if anyone is
interested.
 
Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
 
Aloha,
Cheryl

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From mark8559 at hotmail.com  Sun Aug 11 06:59:42 2013
From: mark8559 at hotmail.com (Mark Exstedt)
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 22:59:42 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] Nak 480 Cassette Deck
Message-ID: <BLU168-W3F7A992350931275A380DDB5A0@phx.gbl>

Never seen a 480 go for this much on Ebay:
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nakamichi-480-MINT-I-Purchased-NEW-1981-82-All-Packaging-Literature-/171095986515?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item27d61d9153
 		 	   		  
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From echo at techno-link.com  Sun Aug 11 11:36:14 2013
From: echo at techno-link.com (VLADO ANGELOV)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 12:36:14 +0300
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
Message-ID: <04eb01ce9676$38fe4ba0$aafae2e0$@techno-link.com>

I really do wonder why a seller asks a buyer for a price? We all know this
is a rare and expensive item, but never corresponding to price-quality
equation.

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From: Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
	sale
To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
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Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.

  _____  

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of ashvin srivastava
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 1:17 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale



How much are you charging

On Aug 8, 2013 8:41 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:



Patty has an unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 cassettes if anyone is
interested.
 
Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
 
Aloha,
Cheryl

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From kaupp240 at hotmail.com  Mon Aug 12 00:35:46 2013
From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com (Cheryl Kaupp)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 12:35:46 -1000
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
In-Reply-To: <04eb01ce9676$38fe4ba0$aafae2e0$@techno-link.com>
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They are not mine -- I am not selling them. Someone I know is selling them
and she had no idea what they were worth. 
She asked me to send an email offering the tapes. 
 

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Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:36 PM
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale

I really do wonder why a seller asks a buyer for a price? We all know this
is a rare and expensive item, but never corresponding to price-quality
equation.

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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:06:49 -1000
From: Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
	sale
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Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.

  _____  

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of ashvin srivastava
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 1:17 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale



How much are you charging

On Aug 8, 2013 8:41 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:



Patty has an unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 cassettes if anyone is
interested.
 
Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
 
Aloha,
Cheryl

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From gabrenas at math.utah.edu  Mon Aug 12 01:42:06 2013
From: gabrenas at math.utah.edu (Victor Gabrenas)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 17:42:06 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
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I will offer $2.00

Victor M. Gabrenas


On Aug 11, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> They are not mine -- I am not selling them. Someone I know is selling them
> and she had no idea what they were worth. 
> She asked me to send an email offering the tapes. 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
> Of VLADO ANGELOV
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:36 PM
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
> 
> I really do wonder why a seller asks a buyer for a price? We all know this
> is a rare and expensive item, but never corresponding to price-quality
> equation.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:06:49 -1000
> From: Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
>    sale
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> Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
> 
>  _____  
> 
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
> Of ashvin srivastava
> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 1:17 PM
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
> 
> 
> 
> How much are you charging
> 
> On Aug 8, 2013 8:41 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Patty has an unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 cassettes if anyone is
> interested.
> 
> Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
> 
> Aloha,
> Cheryl
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From kaupp240 at hotmail.com  Mon Aug 12 02:18:54 2013
From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com (Cheryl Kaupp)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 14:18:54 -1000
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
In-Reply-To: <9B959830-5737-4D8F-8551-A937494A83CB@math.utah.edu>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP12529D982E07B0F44AA13C3865B0@phx.gbl>


You've been outbid.  

-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Victor Gabrenas
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:42 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
sale

I will offer $2.00

Victor M. Gabrenas


On Aug 11, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> They are not mine -- I am not selling them. Someone I know is selling 
> them and she had no idea what they were worth.
> She asked me to send an email offering the tapes. 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On 
> Behalf Of VLADO ANGELOV
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:36 PM
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for 
> sale
> 
> I really do wonder why a seller asks a buyer for a price? We all know 
> this is a rare and expensive item, but never corresponding to 
> price-quality equation.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On 
> Behalf Of naktalk-request at naks.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:17 PM
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Subject: Naktalk Digest, Vol 126, Issue 3
> 
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>   1. RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
>      (Cheryl Kaupp)
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:06:49 -1000
> From: Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
>    sale
> To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP280A91AE0A545EE9B943A6C86590 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
> 
>  _____
> 
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On 
> Behalf Of ashvin srivastava
> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 1:17 PM
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for 
> sale
> 
> 
> 
> How much are you charging
> 
> On Aug 8, 2013 8:41 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Patty has an unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 cassettes if anyone 
> is interested.
> 
> Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
> 
> Aloha,
> Cheryl
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From gabrenas at math.utah.edu  Mon Aug 12 03:36:24 2013
From: gabrenas at math.utah.edu (Victor Gabrenas)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 19:36:24 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP12529D982E07B0F44AA13C3865B0@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <000901ce96fc$5f1e7680$1d5b6380$@math.utah.edu>

Damn!


-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Cheryl Kaupp
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 6:19 PM
To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'
Subject: RE: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
sale


You've been outbid.  

-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Victor Gabrenas
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:42 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
sale

I will offer $2.00

Victor M. Gabrenas


On Aug 11, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> They are not mine -- I am not selling them. Someone I know is selling 
> them and she had no idea what they were worth.
> She asked me to send an email offering the tapes. 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On 
> Behalf Of VLADO ANGELOV
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:36 PM
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for 
> sale
> 
> I really do wonder why a seller asks a buyer for a price? We all know 
> this is a rare and expensive item, but never corresponding to 
> price-quality equation.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On 
> Behalf Of naktalk-request at naks.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:17 PM
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Subject: Naktalk Digest, Vol 126, Issue 3
> 
> Send Naktalk mailing list submissions to
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>   1. RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
>      (Cheryl Kaupp)
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:06:49 -1000
> From: Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
>    sale
> To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP280A91AE0A545EE9B943A6C86590 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
> 
>  _____
> 
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On 
> Behalf Of ashvin srivastava
> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 1:17 PM
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for 
> sale
> 
> 
> 
> How much are you charging
> 
> On Aug 8, 2013 8:41 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Patty has an unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 cassettes if anyone 
> is interested.
> 
> Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
> 
> Aloha,
> Cheryl
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From lenaw at flash.net  Mon Aug 12 03:57:03 2013
From: lenaw at flash.net (LENA WONG)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 18:57:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
In-Reply-To: <000901ce96fc$5f1e7680$1d5b6380$@math.utah.edu>
References: <9B959830-5737-4D8F-8551-A937494A83CB@math.utah.edu>
	<BLU0-SMTP12529D982E07B0F44AA13C3865B0@phx.gbl>
	<000901ce96fc$5f1e7680$1d5b6380$@math.utah.edu>
Message-ID: <1376272623.7793.YahooMailNeo@web184703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I am not surprised even though your bid might be just a joke today (otherwise, what else will you do on Sunday anyway, RIGHT ?)
 

________________________________
 From: Victor Gabrenas <gabrenas at math.utah.edu>
To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' <naktalk at naks.com> 
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 8:36 PM
Subject: RE: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
  

Damn!


-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Cheryl Kaupp
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 6:19 PM
To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'
Subject: RE: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
sale


You've been outbid.  

-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Victor Gabrenas
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:42 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
sale

I will offer $2.00

Victor M. Gabrenas


On Aug 11, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> They are not mine -- I am not selling them. Someone I know is selling 
> them and she had no idea what they were worth.
> She asked me to send an email offering the tapes. 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On 
> Behalf Of VLADO ANGELOV
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:36 PM
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for 
> sale
> 
> I really do wonder why a seller asks a buyer for a price? We all know 
> this is a rare and expensive item, but never corresponding to 
> price-quality equation.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On 
> Behalf Of naktalk-request at naks.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:17 PM
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Subject: Naktalk Digest, Vol 126, Issue 3
> 
> Send Naktalk mailing list submissions to
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>   1. RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
>      (Cheryl Kaupp)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:06:49 -1000
> From: Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
>    sale
> To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP280A91AE0A545EE9B943A6C86590 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
> 
>  _____
> 
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On 
> Behalf Of ashvin srivastava
> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 1:17 PM
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for 
> sale
> 
> 
> 
> How much are you charging
> 
> On Aug 8, 2013 8:41 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Patty has an unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 cassettes if anyone 
> is interested.
> 
> Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
> 
> Aloha,
> Cheryl
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From gabrenas at math.utah.edu  Mon Aug 12 07:09:21 2013
From: gabrenas at math.utah.edu (Victor Gabrenas)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 23:09:21 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
In-Reply-To: <1376272623.7793.YahooMailNeo@web184703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <9B959830-5737-4D8F-8551-A937494A83CB@math.utah.edu>	<BLU0-SMTP12529D982E07B0F44AA13C3865B0@phx.gbl>	<000901ce96fc$5f1e7680$1d5b6380$@math.utah.edu>
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Message-ID: <001401ce971a$1e910f10$5bb32d30$@math.utah.edu>

Nice to see someone understood my jokeJ

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of LENA WONG
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 7:57 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
sale

 

I am not surprised even though your bid might be just a joke today
(otherwise, what else will you do on Sunday anyway, RIGHT ?)

 

From: Victor Gabrenas <gabrenas at math.utah.edu>
To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' <naktalk at naks.com> 
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 8:36 PM
Subject: RE: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
sale


Damn!


-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Cheryl Kaupp
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 6:19 PM
To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'
Subject: RE: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
sale


You've been outbid.  

-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Victor Gabrenas
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:42 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
sale

I will offer $2.00

Victor M. Gabrenas


On Aug 11, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> They are not mine -- I am not selling them. Someone I know is selling 
> them and she had no idea what they were worth.
> She asked me to send an email offering the tapes. 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On 
> Behalf Of VLADO ANGELOV
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:36 PM
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for 
> sale
> 
> I really do wonder why a seller asks a buyer for a price? We all know 
> this is a rare and expensive item, but never corresponding to 
> price-quality equation.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On 
> Behalf Of naktalk-request at naks.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:17 PM
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Subject: Naktalk Digest, Vol 126, Issue 3
> 
> Send Naktalk mailing list submissions to
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>      (Cheryl Kaupp)
> 
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:06:49 -1000
> From: Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
>    sale
> To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
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> Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
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>  _____
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> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On 
> Behalf Of ashvin srivastava
> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 1:17 PM
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for 
> sale
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> 
> How much are you charging
> 
> On Aug 8, 2013 8:41 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Patty has an unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 cassettes if anyone 
> is interested.
> 
> Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
> 
> Aloha,
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From thomas36245-net at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 12 02:23:40 2013
From: thomas36245-net at yahoo.com (thomas)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 17:23:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
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I'm thinking 3 dollars per tape or $ 30 plus shipping, if nobody else offers more.    Thomas.



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From: Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
To: echo at techno-link.com; 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' <naktalk at naks.com> 
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale




They are not mine -- I am not selling them. Someone I know is selling them
and she had no idea what they were worth. 
She asked me to send an email offering the tapes. 


-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of VLADO ANGELOV
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:36 PM
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale

I really do wonder why a seller asks a buyer for a price? We all know this
is a rare and expensive item, but never corresponding to price-quality
equation.

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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:06:49 -1000
From: Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
    sale
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Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.

  _____  

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of ashvin srivastava
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 1:17 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale



How much are you charging

On Aug 8, 2013 8:41 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:



Patty has an unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 cassettes if anyone is
interested.

Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.

Aloha,
Cheryl

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From roland.alford1 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 12 02:26:06 2013
From: roland.alford1 at gmail.com (Roland Alford 1)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 17:26:06 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
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These are really just TDK standard bias tapes.  

These would be more of a novelty or maybe even a collectors item being NOS, a part of Nak history, but may not be anything special for recording on.

- Roland




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From: "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 3:35 PM
To: <echo at techno-link.com>; "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale

> 
> 
> They are not mine -- I am not selling them. Someone I know is selling them
> and she had no idea what they were worth. 
> She asked me to send an email offering the tapes. 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
> Of VLADO ANGELOV
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:36 PM
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
> 
> I really do wonder why a seller asks a buyer for a price? We all know this
> is a rare and expensive item, but never corresponding to price-quality
> equation.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> From: Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
> sale
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> Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
> 
>  _____  
> 
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
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> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 1:17 PM
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
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> 
> 
> How much are you charging
> 
> On Aug 8, 2013 8:41 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Patty has an unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 cassettes if anyone is
> interested.
> 
> Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
> 
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From pinkert6 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 12 02:26:28 2013
From: pinkert6 at gmail.com (brian pinkerton)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 17:26:28 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
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I would offer 15.00.
On Aug 11, 2013 7:02 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> They are not mine -- I am not selling them. Someone I know is selling them
> and she had no idea what they were worth.
> She asked me to send an email offering the tapes.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
> Of VLADO ANGELOV
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:36 PM
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
>
> I really do wonder why a seller asks a buyer for a price? We all know this
> is a rare and expensive item, but never corresponding to price-quality
> equation.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:06:49 -1000
> From: Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
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> Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
>
>   _____
>
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
> Of ashvin srivastava
> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 1:17 PM
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
>
>
>
> How much are you charging
>
> On Aug 8, 2013 8:41 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Patty has an unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 cassettes if anyone is
> interested.
>
> Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
>
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From shantiram2000 at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 12 02:44:20 2013
From: shantiram2000 at yahoo.com (shanti ramachandran)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 17:44:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
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Victor, come on man! 

Ram.


________________________________
 From: Victor Gabrenas <gabrenas at math.utah.edu>
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
 

I will offer $2.00

Victor M. Gabrenas


On Aug 11, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> They are not mine -- I am not selling them. Someone I know is selling them
> and she had no idea what they were worth. 
> She asked me to send an email offering the tapes. 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
> Of VLADO ANGELOV
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:36 PM
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
> 
> I really do wonder why a seller asks a buyer for a price? We all know this
> is a rare and expensive item, but never corresponding to price-quality
> equation.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
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> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:06:49 -1000
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> Subject: RE: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
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> Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
> 
>  _____  
> 
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
> Of ashvin srivastava
> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 1:17 PM
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
> 
> 
> 
> How much are you charging
> 
> On Aug 8, 2013 8:41 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Patty has an unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 cassettes if anyone is
> interested.
> 
> Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
> 
> Aloha,
> Cheryl
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From tim.skorick at gmail.com  Mon Aug 12 02:45:54 2013
From: tim.skorick at gmail.com (Tim Skorick)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 18:45:54 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
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2:50?


On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> You've been outbid.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
> Of Victor Gabrenas
> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:42 PM
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
> sale
>
> I will offer $2.00
>
> Victor M. Gabrenas
>
>
> On Aug 11, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > They are not mine -- I am not selling them. Someone I know is selling
> > them and she had no idea what they were worth.
> > She asked me to send an email offering the tapes.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On
> > Behalf Of VLADO ANGELOV
> > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:36 PM
> > To: naktalk at naks.com
> > Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
> > sale
> >
> > I really do wonder why a seller asks a buyer for a price? We all know
> > this is a rare and expensive item, but never corresponding to
> > price-quality equation.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On
> > Behalf Of naktalk-request at naks.com
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> >      (Cheryl Kaupp)
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> > Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:06:49 -1000
> > From: Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
> >    sale
> > To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
> > Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP280A91AE0A545EE9B943A6C86590 at phx.gbl>
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> > Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
> >
> >  _____
> >
> > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On
> > Behalf Of ashvin srivastava
> > Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 1:17 PM
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> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
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> >
> >
> > How much are you charging
> >
> > On Aug 8, 2013 8:41 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Patty has an unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 cassettes if anyone
> > is interested.
> >
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> >
> > Aloha,
> > Cheryl
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From shantiram2000 at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 12 03:18:49 2013
From: shantiram2000 at yahoo.com (Ram)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 21:18:49 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
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Are we having Nakebay here? Please folks.

Ram.



On Aug 11, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> You've been outbid.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
> Of Victor Gabrenas
> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:42 PM
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
> sale
> 
> I will offer $2.00
> 
> Victor M. Gabrenas
> 
> 
> On Aug 11, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> They are not mine -- I am not selling them. Someone I know is selling 
>> them and she had no idea what they were worth.
>> She asked me to send an email offering the tapes. 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On 
>> Behalf Of VLADO ANGELOV
>> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:36 PM
>> To: naktalk at naks.com
>> Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for 
>> sale
>> 
>> I really do wonder why a seller asks a buyer for a price? We all know 
>> this is a rare and expensive item, but never corresponding to 
>> price-quality equation.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On 
>> Behalf Of naktalk-request at naks.com
>> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:17 PM
>> To: naktalk at naks.com
>> Subject: Naktalk Digest, Vol 126, Issue 3
>> 
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>>     (Cheryl Kaupp)
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>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:06:49 -1000
>> From: Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: RE: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
>>   sale
>> To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
>> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP280A91AE0A545EE9B943A6C86590 at phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
>> 
>> _____
>> 
>> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On 
>> Behalf Of ashvin srivastava
>> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 1:17 PM
>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for 
>> sale
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> How much are you charging
>> 
>> On Aug 8, 2013 8:41 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Patty has an unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 cassettes if anyone 
>> is interested.
>> 
>> Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
>> 
>> Aloha,
>> Cheryl
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From daniel.botelho at gmail.com  Mon Aug 12 03:45:19 2013
From: daniel.botelho at gmail.com (Daniel Botelho)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 21:45:19 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
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Well I think we can stop playing games at this point. ;)

If you really want to know what they are selling for, go have a look on
ebay.  Fishing for the highest offers is silly, as it doesn't take a lot of
brain power to do a quick search online to find out the going rate.

Better yet, have a look:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-SEALED-NAKAMICHI-SX-C90-Tandberg-Akai-Cassette-Tape-/300908105683?pt=US_Audio_Tapes&hash=item460f854fd3

If each one went for $23.89, It's not going to be tough to do the math on
this one. :)  I don't think they are worth it, but some would want it for
it's rare value.

I personally wouldn't pay more than $60 for 10 plus shipping...





On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> You've been outbid.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
> Of Victor Gabrenas
> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:42 PM
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
> sale
>
> I will offer $2.00
>
> Victor M. Gabrenas
>
>
> On Aug 11, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > They are not mine -- I am not selling them. Someone I know is selling
> > them and she had no idea what they were worth.
> > She asked me to send an email offering the tapes.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On
> > Behalf Of VLADO ANGELOV
> > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:36 PM
> > To: naktalk at naks.com
> > Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
> > sale
> >
> > I really do wonder why a seller asks a buyer for a price? We all know
> > this is a rare and expensive item, but never corresponding to
> > price-quality equation.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On
> > Behalf Of naktalk-request at naks.com
> > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:17 PM
> > To: naktalk at naks.com
> > Subject: Naktalk Digest, Vol 126, Issue 3
> >
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> >      (Cheryl Kaupp)
> >
> >
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> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:06:49 -1000
> > From: Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
> >    sale
> > To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
> > Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP280A91AE0A545EE9B943A6C86590 at phx.gbl>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
> >
> >  _____
> >
> > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On
> > Behalf Of ashvin srivastava
> > Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 1:17 PM
> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
> > sale
> >
> >
> >
> > How much are you charging
> >
> > On Aug 8, 2013 8:41 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Patty has an unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 cassettes if anyone
> > is interested.
> >
> > Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
> >
> > Aloha,
> > Cheryl
> >
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From daniel.botelho at gmail.com  Mon Aug 12 03:49:30 2013
From: daniel.botelho at gmail.com (Daniel Botelho)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 21:49:30 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
In-Reply-To: <CAEwmrs5tZ0P-soQ8D-UHH_5rk0AJHgj6cM_KN7cnYp2cU_Kw6A@mail.gmail.com>
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Err, wrong link...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NAKAMICHI-REFERENCE-EXII-C90-MC-CASSETTE-NEW-VERY-RARE-/180689566334

Certainly still overpriced at 31 euros...for a normal bias tape, no less.


On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Daniel Botelho <daniel.botelho at gmail.com>wrote:

> Well I think we can stop playing games at this point. ;)
>
> If you really want to know what they are selling for, go have a look on
> ebay.  Fishing for the highest offers is silly, as it doesn't take a lot of
> brain power to do a quick search online to find out the going rate.
>
> Better yet, have a look:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-SEALED-NAKAMICHI-SX-C90-Tandberg-Akai-Cassette-Tape-/300908105683?pt=US_Audio_Tapes&hash=item460f854fd3
>
> If each one went for $23.89, It's not going to be tough to do the math on
> this one. :)  I don't think they are worth it, but some would want it for
> it's rare value.
>
> I personally wouldn't pay more than $60 for 10 plus shipping...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> You've been outbid.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Victor Gabrenas
>> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:42 PM
>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
>> sale
>>
>> I will offer $2.00
>>
>> Victor M. Gabrenas
>>
>>
>> On Aug 11, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > They are not mine -- I am not selling them. Someone I know is selling
>> > them and she had no idea what they were worth.
>> > She asked me to send an email offering the tapes.
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On
>> > Behalf Of VLADO ANGELOV
>> > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:36 PM
>> > To: naktalk at naks.com
>> > Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
>> > sale
>> >
>> > I really do wonder why a seller asks a buyer for a price? We all know
>> > this is a rare and expensive item, but never corresponding to
>> > price-quality equation.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On
>> > Behalf Of naktalk-request at naks.com
>> > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:17 PM
>> > To: naktalk at naks.com
>> > Subject: Naktalk Digest, Vol 126, Issue 3
>> >
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>> >   1. RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
>> >      (Cheryl Kaupp)
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> > Message: 1
>> > Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:06:49 -1000
>> > From: Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
>> > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
>> >    sale
>> > To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
>> > Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP280A91AE0A545EE9B943A6C86590 at phx.gbl>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> >
>> > Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
>> >
>> >  _____
>> >
>> > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On
>> > Behalf Of ashvin srivastava
>> > Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 1:17 PM
>> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
>> > sale
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > How much are you charging
>> >
>> > On Aug 8, 2013 8:41 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Patty has an unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 cassettes if anyone
>> > is interested.
>> >
>> > Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
>> >
>> > Aloha,
>> > Cheryl
>> >
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From mark8559 at hotmail.com  Mon Aug 12 04:48:13 2013
From: mark8559 at hotmail.com (Mark Exstedt)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 20:48:13 -0600
Subject: FW: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
In-Reply-To: <1376272623.7793.YahooMailNeo@web184703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <9B959830-5737-4D8F-8551-A937494A83CB@math.utah.edu>,
	<BLU0-SMTP12529D982E07B0F44AA13C3865B0@phx.gbl>,
	<000901ce96fc$5f1e7680$1d5b6380$@math.utah.edu>,
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Message-ID: <BLU168-W79015A9BB75EC98988B194DB5B0@phx.gbl>

True. 
I wish this nonsense on a petty purchase would stop and that Naktalk will go back to technical issues.  
 
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 18:57:03 -0700
From: lenaw at flash.net
Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
To: naktalk at naks.com

I am not surprised even though your bid might be just a joke today (otherwise, what else will you do on Sunday anyway, RIGHT ?)
         		 	   		  
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From n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl  Mon Aug 12 09:29:00 2013
From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl (Ziggo)
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 09:29:00 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
In-Reply-To: <1376267020.50277.YahooMailNeo@web182206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <04eb01ce9676$38fe4ba0$aafae2e0$@techno-link.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP163D8EFF3E672EA8F24401B865A0@phx.gbl>
	<1376267020.50277.YahooMailNeo@web182206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <04576BD5-A38C-46DA-B69E-D9DC2929504A@ziggo.nl>

Do you only sell the complete box or can i order 3 tapes? 
Then i offer you a 4 dollars a tape plus shipping makes 12 dollar plus shipping for 3 tapes

Best regards 

Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

Op 12 aug. 2013 om 02:23 heeft thomas <thomas36245-net at yahoo.com> het volgende geschreven:

> I'm thinking 3 dollars per tape or $ 30 plus shipping, if nobody else offers more.    Thomas.
> 
> From: Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
> To: echo at techno-link.com; 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' <naktalk at naks.com> 
> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 6:35 PM
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
> 
> 
> 
> They are not mine -- I am not selling them. Someone I know is selling them
> and she had no idea what they were worth. 
> She asked me to send an email offering the tapes. 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
> Of VLADO ANGELOV
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:36 PM
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
> 
> I really do wonder why a seller asks a buyer for a price? We all know this
> is a rare and expensive item, but never corresponding to price-quality
> equation.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
> Of naktalk-request at naks.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:17 PM
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Subject: Naktalk Digest, Vol 126, Issue 3
> 
> Send Naktalk mailing list submissions to
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>   1. RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
>       (Cheryl Kaupp)
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:06:49 -1000
> From: Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
>     sale
> To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP280A91AE0A545EE9B943A6C86590 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
> Of ashvin srivastava
> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 1:17 PM
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
> 
> 
> 
> How much are you charging
> 
> On Aug 8, 2013 8:41 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Patty has an unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 cassettes if anyone is
> interested.
> 
> Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.
> 
> Aloha,
> Cheryl
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From kaupp240 at hotmail.com  Mon Aug 12 18:09:28 2013
From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com (Cheryl Kaupp)
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 06:09:28 -1000
Subject: You can stop trolling NOW. RE: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10
	Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
In-Reply-To: <CAMKzjOdt4YXTTSzqYPM9rTWCJufvEOiWhJe7mOROvsnPBFn7xg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP4589006190DD0D27CBCAA7A865B0@phx.gbl>

She got a few GOOD offers so this thread is DONE.
ck

  _____  

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of brian pinkerton
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 2:26 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
sale



I would offer 15.00.

On Aug 11, 2013 7:02 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:




They are not mine -- I am not selling them. Someone I know is selling them
and she had no idea what they were worth.
She asked me to send an email offering the tapes.


-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of VLADO ANGELOV
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:36 PM
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale

I really do wonder why a seller asks a buyer for a price? We all know this
is a rare and expensive item, but never corresponding to price-quality
equation.

-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of naktalk-request at naks.com
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:17 PM
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: Naktalk Digest, Vol 126, Issue 3

Send Naktalk mailing list submissions to
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:06:49 -1000
From: Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
        sale
To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP280A91AE0A545EE9B943A6C86590 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.

  _____

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of ashvin srivastava
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 1:17 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale



How much are you charging

On Aug 8, 2013 8:41 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:



Patty has an unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 cassettes if anyone is
interested.

Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.

Aloha,
Cheryl

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From patty at jbrudy.com  Mon Aug 12 18:43:59 2013
From: patty at jbrudy.com (Patty)
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 09:43:59 -0700
Subject: You can stop trolling NOW. RE: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of
	10Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP4589006190DD0D27CBCAA7A865B0@phx.gbl>
References: <CAMKzjOdt4YXTTSzqYPM9rTWCJufvEOiWhJe7mOROvsnPBFn7xg@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP4589006190DD0D27CBCAA7A865B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4A3548C8A1C74A1B81BD1C1952CAB2F1@UserPC>

TO ALL,

 

CHERLY WAS DOING ME A GOOD FAVOR.  SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER ME FROM NAKAMICH
PARTS DEPARTMENT  PATTY BERETTA.  I DON'T OWN A COMPUTER AT HOME AND I SPEND
ENOUGH TIME HERE AT WORK ON ONE.  ALSO, I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF HOW TO USE
E-BAY AND WOULD RATHER PEOPLE THAT APPR. NAKAMICH FOR WHAT IS WAS HAVE CRACK
AT THEM.  

 

I WAS WITH NAKAMICHI FOR 16YRS AND WAS ONE OF THE BEST COMPANIES TO WORK FOR
BEFORE THE TAKE OVER, WHICH I WAS THERE FOR ALSO.

 

THANK YOU ALL FOR THE OFFERS. 

AND YES I STILL HAVE SEREVAL OF MY OWN UNITS I STILL LOVE AND LISTEN TO.

 

  _____  

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Cheryl Kaupp
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 9:09 AM
To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'
Subject: You can stop trolling NOW. RE: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of
10Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale

 

She got a few GOOD offers so this thread is DONE.

ck

 

  _____  

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of brian pinkerton
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 2:26 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
sale

I would offer 15.00.

On Aug 11, 2013 7:02 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:



They are not mine -- I am not selling them. Someone I know is selling them
and she had no idea what they were worth.
She asked me to send an email offering the tapes.


-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of VLADO ANGELOV
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:36 PM
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale

I really do wonder why a seller asks a buyer for a price? We all know this
is a rare and expensive item, but never corresponding to price-quality
equation.

-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of naktalk-request at naks.com
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:17 PM
To: naktalk at naks.com
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:06:49 -1000
From: Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
        sale
To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP280A91AE0A545EE9B943A6C86590 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.

  _____

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of ashvin srivastava
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 1:17 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale



How much are you charging

On Aug 8, 2013 8:41 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:



Patty has an unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 cassettes if anyone is
interested.

Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.

Aloha,
Cheryl

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From gabrenas at math.utah.edu  Mon Aug 12 18:45:22 2013
From: gabrenas at math.utah.edu (Victor Gabrenas)
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 10:45:22 -0600
Subject: You can stop trolling NOW. RE: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of
	10	Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
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Thank you for shopping on Naktalk!

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Cheryl Kaupp
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:09 AM
To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'
Subject: You can stop trolling NOW. RE: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10
Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale

 

She got a few GOOD offers so this thread is DONE.

ck

 

  _____  

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of brian pinkerton
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 2:26 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
sale

I would offer 15.00.

On Aug 11, 2013 7:02 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:



They are not mine -- I am not selling them. Someone I know is selling them
and she had no idea what they were worth.
She asked me to send an email offering the tapes.


-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of VLADO ANGELOV
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:36 PM
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale

I really do wonder why a seller asks a buyer for a price? We all know this
is a rare and expensive item, but never corresponding to price-quality
equation.

-----Original Message-----
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:06:49 -1000
From: Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
        sale
To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP280A91AE0A545EE9B943A6C86590 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.

  _____

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of ashvin srivastava
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 1:17 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale



How much are you charging

On Aug 8, 2013 8:41 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:



Patty has an unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 cassettes if anyone is
interested.

Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.

Aloha,
Cheryl

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From wbendler at sbcglobal.net  Mon Aug 12 19:21:25 2013
From: wbendler at sbcglobal.net (Warren Bendler)
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 10:21:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: You can stop trolling NOW. RE: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of
	10Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
In-Reply-To: <4A3548C8A1C74A1B81BD1C1952CAB2F1@UserPC>
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Patty Beretta, boy, that's a blast from the past! I remember buying parts from you several times. I don't think you ever had to look any of those part numbers up, you seemed to have them all in your head. Good to hear you are still around. Whoever you work for is lucky to have you!
 Take care,

Warren




________________________________
 From: Patty <patty at jbrudy.com>
To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' <naktalk at naks.com> 
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 12:43 PM
Subject: RE: You can stop trolling NOW. RE: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
 


 
TO ALL,
 
CHERLY WAS DOING ME A GOOD FAVOR. 
SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER ME FROM NAKAMICH PARTS DEPARTMENT  PATTY
BERETTA.  I DON’T OWN A COMPUTER AT HOME AND I SPEND ENOUGH TIME
HERE AT WORK ON ONE.  ALSO, I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF HOW TO USE E-BAY AND
WOULD RATHER PEOPLE THAT APPR. NAKAMICH FOR WHAT IS WAS HAVE CRACK AT
THEM.  
 
I WAS WITH NAKAMICHI FOR 16YRS AND WAS ONE
OF THE BEST COMPANIES TO WORK FOR BEFORE THE TAKE OVER, WHICH I WAS THERE FOR
ALSO.
 
THANK YOU ALL FOR THE OFFERS. 
AND YES I STILL HAVE SEREVAL OF MY OWN
UNITS I STILL LOVE AND LISTEN TO.
 

________________________________
 
From:naktalk-bounces at naks.com
[mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Cheryl Kaupp
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 9:09
AM
To: ' Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks '
Subject: You can stop trolling
NOW. RE: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
 
She got a few GOOD offers so this thread
is DONE.
ck
 

________________________________
 
From:naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of brian pinkerton
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 2:26
PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] RE: Unopened
box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
I would
offer 15.00.
On Aug 11, 2013 7:02 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:


They are not mine -- I am not selling them. Someone I know is selling them
and she had no idea what they were worth.
She asked me to send an email offering the tapes.


-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]
On Behalf
Of VLADO ANGELOV
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:36 PM
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale

I really do wonder why a seller asks a buyer for a price? We all know this
is a rare and expensive item, but never corresponding to price-quality
equation.

-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]
On Behalf
Of naktalk-request at naks.com
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:17 PM
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:06:49 -1000
From: Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
        sale
To: "' Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks '"
<naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP280A91AE0A545EE9B943A6C86590 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.

  _____

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]
On Behalf
Of ashvin srivastava
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 1:17 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale



How much are you charging

On Aug 8, 2013 8:41 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:



Patty has an unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 cassettes if anyone is
interested.

Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.

Aloha,
Cheryl

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From scott.h.garner at lmco.com  Mon Aug 12 20:21:08 2013
From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com (Garner, Scott H)
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 18:21:08 +0000
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: You can stop trolling NOW. RE: [naktalk] RE:
	Unopened box of	10Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
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Patty,

I doubt if you would remember me but this is Scott from Coatesville, remember the town where everyone wears a coat. I just wanted to say the out of all the service department people I dealt with over the years you where one of the friendliest. I hope you are doing well.



From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Patty
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 12:44 PM
To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: You can stop trolling NOW. RE: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale

TO ALL,

CHERLY WAS DOING ME A GOOD FAVOR.  SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER ME FROM NAKAMICH PARTS DEPARTMENT  PATTY BERETTA.  I DON'T OWN A COMPUTER AT HOME AND I SPEND ENOUGH TIME HERE AT WORK ON ONE.  ALSO, I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF HOW TO USE E-BAY AND WOULD RATHER PEOPLE THAT APPR. NAKAMICH FOR WHAT IS WAS HAVE CRACK AT THEM.

I WAS WITH NAKAMICHI FOR 16YRS AND WAS ONE OF THE BEST COMPANIES TO WORK FOR BEFORE THE TAKE OVER, WHICH I WAS THERE FOR ALSO.

THANK YOU ALL FOR THE OFFERS.
AND YES I STILL HAVE SEREVAL OF MY OWN UNITS I STILL LOVE AND LISTEN TO.

________________________________
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Kaupp
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 9:09 AM
To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'
Subject: You can stop trolling NOW. RE: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale

She got a few GOOD offers so this thread is DONE.
ck

________________________________
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of brian pinkerton
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 2:26 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale

I would offer 15.00.
On Aug 11, 2013 7:02 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com<mailto:kaupp240 at hotmail.com>> wrote:


They are not mine -- I am not selling them. Someone I know is selling them
and she had no idea what they were worth.
She asked me to send an email offering the tapes.


-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com>] On Behalf
Of VLADO ANGELOV
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:36 PM
To: naktalk at naks.com<mailto:naktalk at naks.com>
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale

I really do wonder why a seller asks a buyer for a price? We all know this
is a rare and expensive item, but never corresponding to price-quality
equation.

-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com>] On Behalf
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:06:49 -1000
From: Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com<mailto:kaupp240 at hotmail.com>>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
        sale
To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com<mailto:naktalk at naks.com>>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP280A91AE0A545EE9B943A6C86590 at phx.gbl<mailto:BLU0-SMTP280A91AE0A545EE9B943A6C86590 at phx.gbl>>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.

  _____

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com>] On Behalf
Of ashvin srivastava
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 1:17 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale



How much are you charging

On Aug 8, 2013 8:41 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com<mailto:kaupp240 at hotmail.com>> wrote:



Patty has an unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 cassettes if anyone is
interested.

Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.

Aloha,
Cheryl

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From patty at jbrudy.com  Mon Aug 12 23:42:17 2013
From: patty at jbrudy.com (Patty)
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 14:42:17 -0700
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: You can stop trolling NOW. RE: [naktalk]
	RE:Unopened box of	10Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
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THANK YOU FOR THE COMPLAINMENT.  AND I STILL HAVE MY SENCE OF HUMOR, HOWEVER
I DO PURCHASING/ WITH SOME CUSTOMER SERVICE WHERE I AM AT NOW..

 

AND YES I DO REMEMBER YOU,

 

 

JOHN B RUDY CO.  LOOK ME YOU.

 

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From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Garner, Scott H
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:21 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: You can stop trolling NOW. RE: [naktalk]
RE:Unopened box of 10Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale

 

Patty,

 

I doubt if you would remember me but this is Scott from Coatesville,
remember the town where everyone wears a coat. I just wanted to say the out
of all the service department people I dealt with over the years you where
one of the friendliest. I hope you are doing well.

 

 

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Patty
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 12:44 PM
To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: You can stop trolling NOW. RE: [naktalk] RE: Unopened
box of 10Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale

 

TO ALL,

 

CHERLY WAS DOING ME A GOOD FAVOR.  SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER ME FROM NAKAMICH
PARTS DEPARTMENT  PATTY BERETTA.  I DON'T OWN A COMPUTER AT HOME AND I SPEND
ENOUGH TIME HERE AT WORK ON ONE.  ALSO, I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF HOW TO USE
E-BAY AND WOULD RATHER PEOPLE THAT APPR. NAKAMICH FOR WHAT IS WAS HAVE CRACK
AT THEM.  

 

I WAS WITH NAKAMICHI FOR 16YRS AND WAS ONE OF THE BEST COMPANIES TO WORK FOR
BEFORE THE TAKE OVER, WHICH I WAS THERE FOR ALSO.

 

THANK YOU ALL FOR THE OFFERS. 

AND YES I STILL HAVE SEREVAL OF MY OWN UNITS I STILL LOVE AND LISTEN TO.

 

  _____  

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Cheryl Kaupp
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 9:09 AM
To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'
Subject: You can stop trolling NOW. RE: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of
10Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale

 

She got a few GOOD offers so this thread is DONE.

ck

 

  _____  

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of brian pinkerton
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 2:26 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
sale

I would offer 15.00.

On Aug 11, 2013 7:02 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:



They are not mine -- I am not selling them. Someone I know is selling them
and she had no idea what they were worth.
She asked me to send an email offering the tapes.


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From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of VLADO ANGELOV
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:36 PM
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale

I really do wonder why a seller asks a buyer for a price? We all know this
is a rare and expensive item, but never corresponding to price-quality
equation.

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:06:49 -1000
From: Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
        sale
To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.

  _____

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of ashvin srivastava
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 1:17 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale



How much are you charging

On Aug 8, 2013 8:41 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:



Patty has an unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 cassettes if anyone is
interested.

Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.

Aloha,
Cheryl

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From shorty1275nz at actrix.co.nz  Tue Aug 13 07:46:11 2013
From: shorty1275nz at actrix.co.nz (Martin Short)
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 17:46:11 +1200
Subject: [naktalk] Nak 480 Cassette Deck
References: <BLU168-W3F7A992350931275A380DDB5A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <B3E4F823A4AC42A89FE33D92D8C1C78A@desktop>

Don't know about Ebay, but locally in NZ = @$215.00, and given the condition, original box etc, might have fetched a little more down here. 

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  From: Mark Exstedt 
  To: naktalk at naks.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 4:59 PM
  Subject: [naktalk] Nak 480 Cassette Deck


  Never seen a 480 go for this much on Ebay:
   
  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nakamichi-480-MINT-I-Purchased-NEW-1981-82-All-Packaging-Literature-/171095986515?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item27d61d9153
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From jrsifontes at gmail.com  Tue Aug 13 01:34:26 2013
From: jrsifontes at gmail.com (Jose Sifontes)
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 19:34:26 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 126, Issue 4
In-Reply-To: <201308121440.r7CEWrSm005922@zxe.naks.com>
References: <201308121440.r7CEWrSm005922@zxe.naks.com>
Message-ID: <CAKfmxXBCutKMkxr6=QkzNsq95eA-DjdovjaskNONzvLdW_+mAw@mail.gmail.com>

 I have a Nak 580 bezel (front fascia) including meters in great condition
available to anyone who needs it.  Just pay shipping.

Namikis
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From ryanuys at gam.co.za  Tue Aug 13 16:43:45 2013
From: ryanuys at gam.co.za (Ryan Uys)
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 16:43:45 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] getting my ZX9 up and running
In-Reply-To: <51DDAA35.9090103@marrscom.com>
References: <51DDAA35.9090103@marrscom.com>
Message-ID: <520A4621.6080908@gam.co.za>

Hi all,

This is my first real posting to Naktalk. I'm based in South Africa 
where upper end Naks are very scarce. I started out with a very beaten 
up 680ZX, but last year a fellow enthusiast stumbled across an estate 
sale where they were clearing out what must have been a serious 
collector's stash. It included :
7 x dragon
1 x ZX9
1 x RX505
1 x 1000ZXL
2 x CR7
25 x original test tapes and alignment jigs.
He paid about $750 for the lot, but all the decks were in as-is state, 
and nothing operated.

After gently pestered the guy for about a year, and 6 months ago he 
relented and sold me 5 of the dragons, plus the ZX9 for $750, and was 
well pleased with his sale.

Of the stash I got, the ZX9 is cosmetically excellent, and powered up, 
but the belts were a pile of goo at the bottom. 2 of the Dragons are 
very promising, one has a sticker from the mid 1990's indicating 
alignment and cal by Stephen Sank. A further 2 of the Dragons are 
probably ressurectable, and the 5th is an incomplete parts donor.

Now, the ZX9 has my attention at the moment. I got belt kits from Marrs, 
and I carefully installed a kit in the ZX9, which has resulted in 
mechanical operation being correct. Playback sound quality is excellent. 
When I tried recording, the bias and level setting procedure worked just 
fine initially, as did recording. After about 30 mins the recording 
became more and more contaminated with crackling as I would expect from 
dying capacitors. At this time the level oscillator also appeared not to 
work anymore, although the 15kHz osc seemed fine.

I guess this is orange cap problems?

My question is, which caps should I replace, or should I replace all of 
them? I do have quite a bit of electronics experience, and I'm not 
scared of the job. I have access to a nice oscilloscope, and a selection 
of ABEX test tapes including level, azimuth, speed and FR. I must still 
work on my fellow enthusiast about those 25 Nak units.....

Thanks, Ryan




From ronami at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 13 18:13:11 2013
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 09:13:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] getting my ZX9 up and running
In-Reply-To: <520A4621.6080908@gam.co.za>
References: <51DDAA35.9090103@marrscom.com> <520A4621.6080908@gam.co.za>
Message-ID: <1376410391.26104.YahooMailNeo@web160201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>


I would test (and replace if bad) the 4 film caps in the oscillator circuit. If this fixes the 
problem, I would then go through the bias frequency and erase current adjustment 
procedure per the service manual. manual. I would also check the electrolytic cap 
connected to the oscillator transformer center tap (probably good, but just to make 
sure). 

Good luck,

-- Ron






>________________________________
> From: Ryan Uys <ryanuys at gam.co.za>
>To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
>Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:43 AM
>Subject: [naktalk] getting my ZX9 up and running
> 
>
>Hi all,
>
>This is my first real posting to Naktalk. I'm based in South Africa 
>where upper end Naks are very scarce. I started out with a very beaten 
>up 680ZX, but last year a fellow enthusiast stumbled across an estate 
>sale where they were clearing out what must have been a serious 
>collector's stash. It included :
>7 x dragon
>1 x ZX9
>1 x RX505
>1 x 1000ZXL
>2 x CR7
>25 x original test tapes and alignment jigs.
>He paid about $750 for the lot, but all the decks were in as-is state, 
>and nothing operated.
>
>After gently pestered the guy for about a year, and 6 months ago he 
>relented and sold me 5 of the dragons, plus the ZX9 for $750, and was 
>well pleased with his sale.
>
>Of the stash I got, the ZX9 is cosmetically excellent, and powered up, 
>but the belts were a pile of goo at the bottom. 2 of the Dragons are 
>very promising, one has a sticker from the mid 1990's indicating 
>alignment and cal by Stephen Sank. A further 2 of the Dragons are 
>probably ressurectable, and the 5th is an incomplete parts donor.
>
>Now, the ZX9 has my attention at the moment. I got belt kits from Marrs, 
>and I carefully installed a kit in the ZX9, which has resulted in 
>mechanical operation being correct. Playback sound quality is excellent. 
>When I tried recording, the bias and level setting procedure worked just 
>fine initially, as did recording. After about 30 mins the recording 
>became more and more contaminated with crackling as I would expect from 
>dying capacitors. At this time the level oscillator also appeared not to 
>work anymore, although the 15kHz osc seemed fine.
>
>I guess this is orange cap problems?
>
>My question is, which caps should I replace, or should I replace all of 
>them? I do have quite a bit of electronics experience, and I'm not 
>scared of the job. I have access to a nice oscilloscope, and a selection 
>of ABEX test tapes including level, azimuth, speed and FR. I must still 
>work on my fellow enthusiast about those 25 Nak units.....
>
>Thanks, Ryan
>
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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 14 00:14:10 2013
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra)
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 15:14:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] getting my ZX9 up and running
In-Reply-To: <520A4621.6080908@gam.co.za>
References: <51DDAA35.9090103@marrscom.com> <520A4621.6080908@gam.co.za>
Message-ID: <1376432050.27308.YahooMailNeo@web163804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi Ryan, 

Naks and Biltong!

I would advise that you change all the orange and the power electrolytic caps on the power supply. Polystyrene caps for the orange film caps and Muse caps for the power supply are good replacements. The power caps are located on the back left corner of the deck.  Once you have done that, follow through the electronic alignment steps in the manual to make sure the deck meets specs. The ZX9 is a beautiful deck and a fine sounding machine. 

Enjoy your spoils!

Cheers, 
Bala 



________________________________
 From: Ryan Uys <ryanuys at gam.co.za>
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 12:43 AM
Subject: [naktalk] getting my ZX9 up and running
 

Hi all,

This is my first real posting to Naktalk. I'm based in South Africa 
where upper end Naks are very scarce. I started out with a very beaten 
up 680ZX, but last year a fellow enthusiast stumbled across an estate 
sale where they were clearing out what must have been a serious 
collector's stash. It included :
7 x dragon
1 x ZX9
1 x RX505
1 x 1000ZXL
2 x CR7
25 x original test tapes and alignment jigs.
He paid about $750 for the lot, but all the decks were in as-is state, 
and nothing operated.

After gently pestered the guy for about a year, and 6 months ago he 
relented and sold me 5 of the dragons, plus the ZX9 for $750, and was 
well pleased with his sale.

Of the stash I got, the ZX9 is cosmetically excellent, and powered up, 
but the belts were a pile of goo at the bottom. 2 of the Dragons are 
very promising, one has a sticker from the mid 1990's indicating 
alignment and cal by Stephen Sank. A further 2 of the Dragons are 
probably ressurectable, and the 5th is an incomplete parts donor.

Now, the ZX9 has my attention at the moment. I got belt kits from Marrs, 
and I carefully installed a kit in the ZX9, which has resulted in 
mechanical operation being correct. Playback sound quality is excellent. 
When I tried recording, the bias and level setting procedure worked just 
fine initially, as did recording. After about 30 mins the recording 
became more and more contaminated with crackling as I would expect from 
dying capacitors. At this time the level oscillator also appeared not to 
work anymore, although the 15kHz osc seemed fine.

I guess this is orange cap problems?

My question is, which caps should I replace, or should I replace all of 
them? I do have quite a bit of electronics experience, and I'm not 
scared of the job. I have access to a nice oscilloscope, and a selection 
of ABEX test tapes including level, azimuth, speed and FR. I must still 
work on my fellow enthusiast about those 25 Nak units.....

Thanks, Ryan


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From arichison at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 14 19:21:50 2013
From: arichison at yahoo.com (Andre Richison)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 10:21:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Naks
Message-ID: <1376500910.25361.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web120704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I have two very nice nakamichi decks that need new home. MR 1 and 581 discrete head. 
Andre nak talk member
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From mstager at verizon.net  Wed Aug 14 23:14:10 2013
From: mstager at verizon.net (Marc Stager)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 17:14:10 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Cassettes
In-Reply-To: <BLU173-W1088AEDA7B36D52306A50DDF780@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU173-W2885924B0293C1758A07CCDF7E0@phx.gbl>
	<BLU0-SMTP41925B3A5DE19002E9928A5867E0@phx.gbl>
	<BLU173-W1088AEDA7B36D52306A50DDF780@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <0MRJ00B1FHNQUR10@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net>

Just passing this on - contact Tom directly:

From: "Tom Fine" <tfine at beverage-digest.com>

In case anyone still plays with cassettes ...
$1.50 each, includes Media Mail postage -- a variety of older vintage 
Maxell UDXLII 90s and TDK SA 90s. I probably have 20+ of these tapes.
$2.50 each, includes Media Mail postage -- a variety of once-used, 
new-era (late 1990s) Maxell UDXLII 90 and 100s, and a few TDK SA 90 
and 100s, also new-era. I have 20+ of these, too.

-- Tom Fine



From n.van.wijnen at gmail.com  Thu Aug 15 21:01:13 2013
From: n.van.wijnen at gmail.com (Norman van Wijnen)
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 21:01:13 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 530 receiver
Message-ID: <2C41ADF1-DD19-4FC0-AF2E-573A15ACCB5D@gmail.com>

Hi all,

A little off topic but still a Nak.
I am working on a Nakamichi receiver model N530.
There are missing some parts inside this machine from the lamp holder.
Are there people with parts as far as we know?

Best regards

Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad


From stefolof at gmail.com  Fri Aug 16 11:44:53 2013
From: stefolof at gmail.com (Stefan Olofsson)
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:44:53 +0300
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 682ZX looking for some love
Message-ID: <CAK+VLJzsNpmKeqP39Nc2FudqJiSqP0xPp4y0TnH=nJKHgLjfhg@mail.gmail.com>

Auctioning out this mighty fine machine that I unfortunately don't have
time to maintain anymore. In need of restoration. More information here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=171104849356

All best,
Stefan
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From serbianduke13 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 16 14:03:50 2013
From: serbianduke13 at gmail.com (Dragan Vojvodic)
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 14:03:50 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 682ZX looking for some love
In-Reply-To: <CAK+VLJzsNpmKeqP39Nc2FudqJiSqP0xPp4y0TnH=nJKHgLjfhg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAK+VLJzsNpmKeqP39Nc2FudqJiSqP0xPp4y0TnH=nJKHgLjfhg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAG+rBzKKrDx1BHOhYuA-td=gDvXM7zPADkg-Yx5QNc+H+-iHFw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Stefan,

can you give your last price for shipping to Serbia? That price will
include your price and price of shipping.

Thanks,

Dragan


On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Stefan Olofsson <stefolof at gmail.com>wrote:

> Auctioning out this mighty fine machine that I unfortunately don't have
> time to maintain anymore. In need of restoration. More information here:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=171104849356
>
> All best,
> Stefan
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From tpfinn at btinternet.com  Sat Aug 17 12:07:42 2013
From: tpfinn at btinternet.com (Terry Finn)
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 11:07:42 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Any one for a trio of DR-2's on Ebay..
Message-ID: <006901ce9b31$9cfd1ea0$d6f75be0$@com>

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
<http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=111141738701&ssPageNam
e=STRK:MESE:IT> &item=111141738701&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

 

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
<http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=111141777544&ssPageNam
e=STRK:MESE:IT> &item=111141777544&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

 

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
<http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=111141761373&ssPageNam
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From echo at techno-link.com  Sat Aug 17 18:16:15 2013
From: echo at techno-link.com (VLADO ANGELOV)
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 19:16:15 +0300
Subject: [naktalk] RE:Nakamichi 682ZX looking for some love
Message-ID: <001e01ce9b65$19f51f60$4ddf5e20$@techno-link.com>

Hi Stefan, Your ad at the bay is incomplete & misleading regarding postage -
US - Local Pickup available, Greece  - US $130.00 - Economy Int'l Shipping
What is your postage fee for Greece or is a Local Pickup for Volos Greece
available? 
Thanks, Vlado


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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:44:53 +0300
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Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 682ZX looking for some love
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Auctioning out this mighty fine machine that I unfortunately don't have time
to maintain anymore. In need of restoration. More information here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=171104849356

All best,
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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 14:03:50 +0200
From: Dragan Vojvodic <serbianduke13 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi 682ZX looking for some love
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
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Hello Stefan,

can you give your last price for shipping to Serbia? That price will include
your price and price of shipping.

Thanks,

Dragan


On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Stefan Olofsson <stefolof at gmail.com>wrote:

> Auctioning out this mighty fine machine that I unfortunately don't 
> have time to maintain anymore. In need of restoration. More information
here:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=171104849356
>
> All best,
> Stefan
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From g.p.lyskin at paradise.net.nz  Thu Aug 22 01:23:41 2013
From: g.p.lyskin at paradise.net.nz (Gennady Lyskin)
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:23:41 +1200
Subject: [naktalk] GennLab.com update
Message-ID: <E70FC09AFB8A4110843AB74978E52726@emachinef0bb72>

Hello to everyone on the list.



FYI

I set up and calibrated a Reel-to-Reel Calibration Tape production station.



Tapes, recorded to the following Equalization Standards can be ordered.



For  30in/s (76.2 cm/sec) speed:

Ampex Professional Equipment;

CCIR (1953 or earlier to 1966);

IEC (1968);

DIN (1962).



For  15 in/s (38.1 cm/sec) speed:

NAB (1953 and 1965);

EIA (1963);

IEC (1968);

DIN (1962);

CCIR (1953 or earlier to 1966).



For  7-1/2 in/s (19.05 cm/sec) speed:

Ampex Professional Equipment;

NAB (1965);

RIAA (1968);

EIA (1963);

DIN home equipment (1966);

EIA Standards Proposal 1015;

Ampex Stereo Tapes and Consumer Equipment (1967);

CCIR (before 1966);

CCIR (1966);

IEC (before 1968);

 IEC (1968);

DIN Studio (before 1966);

DIN Studio (1966).



For 3-3/4 in/s (9.525 cm/sec) speed:

EIA (1959);

Ampex Professional Equipment (1953 to 1958);

Ampex Professional Equipment (1959);

DIN (1962);

EIA Standards Proposal 1015;

Ampex Stereo Tapes and Consumer Equipment (1967),

NAB (1965);

RIAA (1968);

IEC (1964);

IEC (1968).



For 1-7/8 in/s (4.7625 cm/sec) speed:

Ampex Consumer Products;

DIN (1966);

IEC (1968);

RIAA (1968).



Duration of each tape 7 min 26sec.



Each track is voice announced.



The following tracks are included:

Track 1. 1000 Hz at Reference Fluxivity.

Track 2. 8000 Hz. Coarse azimuth set.

Track3. 15000 Hz. Fine azimuth set.



Track 4. 1000 Hz  at +12.7 dB level.

It is recorded precisely between Track 1 and Track 3 of a 4-track tape,

or between the left and right channel tracks of a 4-track stereo tape.

This signal can be used for quick calibration of Reproduction Head height of 
a 4-track tape recorder.

Adjust the Reproduction Head height to obtain MINIMUM reading of the output 
signal for both channels.

Repeat this step and the "Fine azimuth set" step few times.



Track 5 to Track 20.

Frequency Response Test. It is recorded at 0 dBref level for 30 in/s (76.2 
cm/sec)speed and for 15 in/s (38.1 cm/sec) speed,

at -10 dBref level for 7-1/2 in/s (19.05 cm/sec) speed and for 3-3/4 in/s 
(9.525 cm/sec) speed,

at -20 dBref level for 1-7/8 in/s (4.7625 cm/sec) speed.



Track 5. 400 Hz Reference level.

Track 6. 31.5 Hz.

Track 7. 50 Hz.

Track 8. 100 Hz.

Track 9. 200 Hz.

Track 10. 400 Hz.

Track 11. 800 Hz.

Track 12. 1000 Hz.

Track 13. 2000 Hz.

Track 14. 4000 Hz.

Track 15. 8000 Hz.

Track 16. 10000 Hz. The last frequency for 1-7/8 in/s (4.7625 cm/sec) speed.

Track 17. 12500 Hz.

Track 18. 15000 Hz. The last frequency for 3-3/4 in/s (9.525 cm/sec) speed.

Track 19. 18000 Hz.

Track20. 20000 Hz.

Track 21. 1000 Hz at Reference Fluxivity.



Please visit the http://www.gennlab.com/rtr_tapes.html website for more 
information.



Regards,



Gennady Lyskin

G e n n L a b
http://www.gennlab.com
info at gennlab.com
Tel: +64 21 238 3056
New Zealand 



From geoffgmfisher at hotmail.com  Thu Aug 22 12:58:54 2013
From: geoffgmfisher at hotmail.com (Geoff Fisher)
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:58:54 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] Seeking a T301 bias oscillator for a Nakamichi 480
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP1991F3D87F6349D568B6182AB4D0@phx.gbl>

Hello fellow Nak enthusiasts,

I'm in dire need of a T301 bias oscillator to complete the restoration 
of a much loved Nakamichi 480 that I have owned since 1985. We've been 
through a lot together! Sadly, my 480's bias oscillator is damaged. If 
you have a T301 from a 480 parts deck that you'd be willing to sell, 
please email me. It will most likely have B-6613 stamped on it.

Any assistance genuinely appreciated.

Rgds,

Geoff
Australia




From patty at jbrudy.com  Thu Aug 22 13:38:47 2013
From: patty at jbrudy.com (patty at jbrudy.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 04:38:47 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] ***Please Read***OUT OF THE OFFICE
Message-ID: <7020f5411f0a463891116589c37470cb@719079b244fa42d8b1b3fe5b3900c982>

I WILL BE OUT OF THE OFFICE 8/21 AND 8/22 AND WILL BE RETURNING ON 8/23.

IF CONFIRMING A MANUFACTURING PO PLEASE RESEND TO 
( janille at jbrudy.com )


IF SENDING ORDERS PLEASE SEND TO ( rick at jbrudy.com )

OR YOU MAY CALL (800) 527-9473

THANK YOU AND HAVE A GREAT DAY.
PATTY BERETTA 





From timpamsepper at cox.net  Thu Aug 22 18:52:49 2013
From: timpamsepper at cox.net (timpamsepper at cox.net)
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 16:52:49 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] Nak DR-5 on ebay
Message-ID: <37832368-1377190370-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2049003546-@b3.c16.bise6.blackberry>


Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Timothy Sepper" <timothy.sepper at kpff.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 09:32:44 
To: 'Tim and Pam Sepper'<timpamsepper at cox.net>
Subject: FW: Nak DR-5 on ebay

Fellow Nakkers,

 

Just thought I would let I would let the Nakamichi community know that there
is a DR-5 cassette deck on ebay, item no. 330997240562, along with its
matching RE-5 receiver, CD-5 player, but only one SP-5 speaker from the same
seller.  Here is the link below for the DR-5.  I am not connected with this
sale, nor know anything about the seller.just passing on this info.  Good
pictures of the DR-5, which I see is the only cassette deck missing its
picture from Naks.com.  Time to update.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nakamichi-DR-5-Cassette-Deck-/330997240562?pt=US_Hom
e_Audio_Cassette_Decks
<http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nakamichi-DR-5-Cassette-Deck-/330997240562?pt=US_Ho
me_Audio_Cassette_Decks&hash=item4d10f912f2> &hash=item4d10f912f2

 

I had been looking for one of these rare systems for awhile for my office
but instead gave up and settled on a refurbished Onkyo CS-345 system from
Accessories4Less.  The Onkyo is very nice, but no cassette player, which I
don't need anyway.  It is not too deep so actually fits in a 12" deep
bookcase.rare.  Still, the Nak system is very tempting nonetheless.  Perhaps
for my workshop.hmm.

 

Tim Sepper 

 


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From kvarnelis at gmail.com  Thu Aug 22 21:11:17 2013
From: kvarnelis at gmail.com (Kazys Varnelis)
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:11:17 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Nak 610
In-Reply-To: <37832368-1377190370-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2049003546-@b3.c16.bise6.blackberry>
References: <37832368-1377190370-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2049003546-@b3.c16.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <1F6A62BE-E874-4BD5-B31F-0D46AB1005CB@gmail.com>

Hi everyone,

I'm looking for a black NAK 610. There's one on eBay, but I had a fishy experience asking about the condition and then googled the seller only to find out I wasn't the first.

If anybody has a spare, please let me know! Also looking for an RM-9 control unit for when I get the 610.

Thanks,

Kaz


From avss01 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 22 22:54:04 2013
From: avss01 at gmail.com (avss01)
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 06:54:04 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] Seeking a T301 bias oscillator for a Nakamichi 480
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP1991F3D87F6349D568B6182AB4D0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP1991F3D87F6349D568B6182AB4D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAES7Nr38HZGCQw=K7oxERwkSE0QgxHC5QnMz4m7yZY9YtiG0HQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Geoff

I have a 481 parts deck at work which should have the same oscillator.  I
will have a look when I get in.  You can have it if it matches.  I am in
Toowoomba Qld.  Contact me on the following:-

kingd at usq.edu.au

Regards

David

On Thursday, August 22, 2013, Geoff Fisher wrote:

> Hello fellow Nak enthusiasts,
>
> I'm in dire need of a T301 bias oscillator to complete the restoration of
> a much loved Nakamichi 480 that I have owned since 1985. We've been through
> a lot together! Sadly, my 480's bias oscillator is damaged. If you have a
> T301 from a 480 parts deck that you'd be willing to sell, please email me.
> It will most likely have B-6613 stamped on it.
>
> Any assistance genuinely appreciated.
>
> Rgds,
>
> Geoff
> Australia
>
>
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From danbarham at aol.com  Fri Aug 23 16:16:05 2013
From: danbarham at aol.com (danbarham at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 10:16:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Nak 610
In-Reply-To: <201308231002.r7NA04vK009695@zxe.naks.com>
References: <201308231002.r7NA04vK009695@zxe.naks.com>
Message-ID: <8D06E2270765655-1020-1797@webmail-d230.sysops.aol.com>



Hi Kaz,

610's do appear on the Bay occasionally but are never inexpensive. Checking the SOLD listings showed four or five that have sold recently with all but one going for big money and the one that was reasonable had incorrect knobs and considerable wear. Patience will eventually reward you but they are out there, especially if you don't mind paying the big money. Are you trying to piece together a SYSTEM 1? Complete SYSTEM 1's show up on the Bay a couple of times per year but go for SERIOUSLY big money! And shipping a whole system is also expensive and risky to receive it undamaged. But they are out there. I would LOVE to have a complete SYSTEM 1 but the only pieces I have ever come across that were affordable for me is the 600/600II cassette decks, which are awesome and sound better than their mechanicals have a right to by the way.

Dan
   

 


 
	
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Date:
			
Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:11:17 -0400
		
	


Hi everyone,

I'm looking for a black NAK 610. There's one on eBay, but I had a fishy 
experience asking about the condition and then googled the seller only to find 
out I wasn't the first.

If anybody has a spare, please let me know! Also looking for an RM-9 control 
unit for when I get the 610.

Thanks,

Kaz





 
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From willy at willyhermannservices.com  Fri Aug 23 18:01:29 2013
From: willy at willyhermannservices.com (Willy Hermann)
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 09:01:29 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Seeking a T301 bias oscillator for a Nakamichi 480
In-Reply-To: <CAES7Nr38HZGCQw=K7oxERwkSE0QgxHC5QnMz4m7yZY9YtiG0HQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU0-SMTP1991F3D87F6349D568B6182AB4D0@phx.gbl>
	<CAES7Nr38HZGCQw=K7oxERwkSE0QgxHC5QnMz4m7yZY9YtiG0HQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM9V8Mf1p8d9whEmk2oAXuQCoCS6ob7u6vRM52YSFiOiWkQMgQ@mail.gmail.com>

I also have one if the closer one doesn't pan out.
Willy


On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:54 PM, avss01 <avss01 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Geoff
>
> I have a 481 parts deck at work which should have the same oscillator.  I
> will have a look when I get in.  You can have it if it matches.  I am in
> Toowoomba Qld.  Contact me on the following:-
>
> kingd at usq.edu.au
>
> Regards
>
> David
>
>
> On Thursday, August 22, 2013, Geoff Fisher wrote:
>
>> Hello fellow Nak enthusiasts,
>>
>> I'm in dire need of a T301 bias oscillator to complete the restoration of
>> a much loved Nakamichi 480 that I have owned since 1985. We've been through
>> a lot together! Sadly, my 480's bias oscillator is damaged. If you have a
>> T301 from a 480 parts deck that you'd be willing to sell, please email me.
>> It will most likely have B-6613 stamped on it.
>>
>> Any assistance genuinely appreciated.
>>
>> Rgds,
>>
>> Geoff
>> Australia
>>
>>
>> ========----------------------**------------------------------**
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From kvarnelis at gmail.com  Fri Aug 23 18:45:21 2013
From: kvarnelis at gmail.com (Kazys Varnelis)
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:45:21 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Nak 610
In-Reply-To: <8D06E2270765655-1020-1797@webmail-d230.sysops.aol.com>
References: <201308231002.r7NA04vK009695@zxe.naks.com>
	<8D06E2270765655-1020-1797@webmail-d230.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <9919D6CE-2B41-4EB5-8F15-CDE0EC366F01@gmail.com>

Hi Dan,

I do have a System One, and it's begging to be completed with either a 610 or a second amplifier. The first way is how I want to go. Thanks, I'm aware of the sold listings and wish I had been able to up the bid on the big money one. The current one is fishy. 

I have two 630 tuner/preamps though, which is how I got into this in the first place. i have a vintage Swedish stereo cabinet and it has a recessed area on top for a turntable. I eventually wall-mounted my turntable to deal with footfalls and junk began to accumulate in that are. I wanted an FM tuner more than a tape deck so I added the 630 since you can reach the controls from the top and was delighted with its look. Then I discovered the System One. Although it cost me a bit, it's also a great home office system. I'll sell my Peachtree Decco2 on Ebay and cover most of the cost, minus the 610. Once I get that plus an RM-9 adapter though, I'll be able to power speakers in the family room next to my office too, which will be nice.

Kaz  
On Aug 23, 2013, at 10:16 AM, danbarham at aol.com wrote:

> Hi Kaz,
>  
> 610's do appear on the Bay occasionally but are never inexpensive. Checking the SOLD listings showed four or five that have sold recently with all but one going for big money and the one that was reasonable had incorrect knobs and considerable wear. Patience will eventually reward you but they are out there, especially if you don't mind paying the big money. Are you trying to piece together a SYSTEM 1? Complete SYSTEM 1's show up on the Bay a couple of times per year but go for SERIOUSLY big money! And shipping a whole system is also expensive and risky to receive it undamaged. But they are out there. I would LOVE to have a complete SYSTEM 1 but the only pieces I have ever come across that were affordable for me is the 600/600II cassette decks, which are awesome and sound better than their mechanicals have a right to by the way.
>  
> Dan
>    
> 
> Attached Message
> From:	Kazys Varnelis <kvarnelis at gmail.com>
> To:	Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
> Subject:	[naktalk] Nak 610
> Date:	Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:11:17 -0400
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I'm looking for a black NAK 610. There's one on eBay, but I had a fishy 
> experience asking about the condition and then googled the seller only to find 
> out I wasn't the first.
> 
> If anybody has a spare, please let me know! Also looking for an RM-9 control 
> unit for when I get the 610.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kaz
> 
>  
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From icmllc at gmail.com  Fri Aug 23 19:17:09 2013
From: icmllc at gmail.com (ashvin srivastava)
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:17:09 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Seeking a T301 bias oscillator for a Nakamichi 480
In-Reply-To: <CAM9V8Mf1p8d9whEmk2oAXuQCoCS6ob7u6vRM52YSFiOiWkQMgQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU0-SMTP1991F3D87F6349D568B6182AB4D0@phx.gbl>
	<CAES7Nr38HZGCQw=K7oxERwkSE0QgxHC5QnMz4m7yZY9YtiG0HQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM9V8Mf1p8d9whEmk2oAXuQCoCS6ob7u6vRM52YSFiOiWkQMgQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACSsU2Npv4eLjn79n48YSiBDQ-7H6HORL0jdrrOBF+nOE1=tdw@mail.gmail.com>

Willy or others
I need some knobs for my ZX9

Any suggestions please
Ashvin
On Aug 23, 2013 11:28 AM, "Willy Hermann" <willy at willyhermannservices.com>
wrote:

> I also have one if the closer one doesn't pan out.
> Willy
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:54 PM, avss01 <avss01 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Geoff
>>
>> I have a 481 parts deck at work which should have the same oscillator.  I
>> will have a look when I get in.  You can have it if it matches.  I am in
>> Toowoomba Qld.  Contact me on the following:-
>>
>> kingd at usq.edu.au
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 22, 2013, Geoff Fisher wrote:
>>
>>> Hello fellow Nak enthusiasts,
>>>
>>> I'm in dire need of a T301 bias oscillator to complete the restoration
>>> of a much loved Nakamichi 480 that I have owned since 1985. We've been
>>> through a lot together! Sadly, my 480's bias oscillator is damaged. If you
>>> have a T301 from a 480 parts deck that you'd be willing to sell, please
>>> email me. It will most likely have B-6613 stamped on it.
>>>
>>> Any assistance genuinely appreciated.
>>>
>>> Rgds,
>>>
>>> Geoff
>>> Australia
>>>
>>>
>>> ========----------------------**------------------------------**
>>> -----=========
>>>          Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
>>> ========----------------------**------------------------------**
>>> -----=========
>>>                        Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
>>> Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/**
>>> listinfo/naktalk <http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk>
>>> ========----------------------**------------------------------**
>>> -----=========
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>>
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>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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From willy at willyhermannservices.com  Fri Aug 23 22:19:11 2013
From: willy at willyhermannservices.com (Willy Hermann)
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:19:11 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Seeking a T301 bias oscillator for a Nakamichi 480
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	<CAES7Nr38HZGCQw=K7oxERwkSE0QgxHC5QnMz4m7yZY9YtiG0HQ@mail.gmail.com>
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A fairly usual part to need since they're design is fragile.  I've never
found a good replacement.  Anyone out there?
Willy


On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:17 AM, ashvin srivastava <icmllc at gmail.com>wrote:

> Willy or others
> I need some knobs for my ZX9
>
> Any suggestions please
> Ashvin
> On Aug 23, 2013 11:28 AM, "Willy Hermann" <willy at willyhermannservices.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I also have one if the closer one doesn't pan out.
>> Willy
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:54 PM, avss01 <avss01 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Geoff
>>>
>>> I have a 481 parts deck at work which should have the same oscillator.
>>>  I will have a look when I get in.  You can have it if it matches.  I am in
>>> Toowoomba Qld.  Contact me on the following:-
>>>
>>> kingd at usq.edu.au
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 22, 2013, Geoff Fisher wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello fellow Nak enthusiasts,
>>>>
>>>> I'm in dire need of a T301 bias oscillator to complete the restoration
>>>> of a much loved Nakamichi 480 that I have owned since 1985. We've been
>>>> through a lot together! Sadly, my 480's bias oscillator is damaged. If you
>>>> have a T301 from a 480 parts deck that you'd be willing to sell, please
>>>> email me. It will most likely have B-6613 stamped on it.
>>>>
>>>> Any assistance genuinely appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Rgds,
>>>>
>>>> Geoff
>>>> Australia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ========----------------------**------------------------------**
>>>> -----=========
>>>>          Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
>>>> ========----------------------**------------------------------**
>>>> -----=========
>>>>                        Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
>>>> Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/**
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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 24 00:27:46 2013
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh)
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 08:27:46 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] Seeking a T301 bias oscillator for a Nakamichi 480
In-Reply-To: <CACSsU2Npv4eLjn79n48YSiBDQ-7H6HORL0jdrrOBF+nOE1=tdw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU0-SMTP1991F3D87F6349D568B6182AB4D0@phx.gbl>
	<CAES7Nr38HZGCQw=K7oxERwkSE0QgxHC5QnMz4m7yZY9YtiG0HQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM9V8Mf1p8d9whEmk2oAXuQCoCS6ob7u6vRM52YSFiOiWkQMgQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <4D0B057C-7918-48A0-9F6A-3A56E3FC3C93@yahoo.com>

The best way to preserve them from cracking is to fit heat shrink around the long stems. I find them too thin and prone to cracking when torsion is applied. 

Best Regards, 
Bala Ganesh

On 24/08/2013, at 3:17 AM, ashvin srivastava <icmllc at gmail.com> wrote:

> Willy or others
> I need some knobs for my ZX9
> 
> Any suggestions please 
> Ashvin
> 
> On Aug 23, 2013 11:28 AM, "Willy Hermann" <willy at willyhermannservices.com> wrote:
>> I also have one if the closer one doesn't pan out.
>> Willy
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:54 PM, avss01 <avss01 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Geoff
>>> 
>>> I have a 481 parts deck at work which should have the same oscillator.  I will have a look when I get in.  You can have it if it matches.  I am in Toowoomba Qld.  Contact me on the following:-
>>> 
>>> kingd at usq.edu.au
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> David
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, August 22, 2013, Geoff Fisher wrote:
>>>> Hello fellow Nak enthusiasts,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm in dire need of a T301 bias oscillator to complete the restoration of a much loved Nakamichi 480 that I have owned since 1985. We've been through a lot together! Sadly, my 480's bias oscillator is damaged. If you have a T301 from a 480 parts deck that you'd be willing to sell, please email me. It will most likely have B-6613 stamped on it.
>>>> 
>>>> Any assistance genuinely appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> Rgds,
>>>> 
>>>> Geoff
>>>> Australia
>>>> 
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From jrsifontes at gmail.com  Sat Aug 24 17:09:00 2013
From: jrsifontes at gmail.com (Jose Sifontes)
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 11:09:00 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] 480Z Parts Deck
Message-ID: <CAKfmxXBF1jkhPmf3c1je7rAfzdA7_J8dRVUW5WBHsd2a3resMg@mail.gmail.com>

I have a 480Z parts deck.  I am in Pittsburgh PA,  however.  On the plus
side, at work we are running an implementation project for Veeva (
salesforce.com based CRM) in Sydney - so at some point soon I will travel
down under. In advance of that will notify you in case you still need that
part (or any other spares) so I can take them with me and mail them locally
in AUS.

Regards,

Namikis

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From mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk  Sat Aug 24 18:36:58 2013
From: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk (Mercedes Benz)
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 16:36:58 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in bias
	oscillator LX-5
Message-ID: <DUB119-W442D481389DC95F5E0EB8BB64F0@phx.gbl>

Hi,

I recently bought an LX-5 which had a low recording level with lot of distortion in both channels so I replaced both the transistors as well as all the orange caps and one 39 ohm fail safe resistor which was blown in the Bias Oscillator circuit.

The good news is that it fixed the distortion problem but I have noticed that the recordings are more bright with emphasis on the high frequencies and less bass. While replacing the caps I noticed that the fail safe resistor R513 (82ohm) had been shorted. I also noticed that the recording level though has increased but still lower by 2 to 3 db than the source (3db lower in left channel and 2db in the right).

The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm resistor in series to the erase head to measure the erase current but I don't really know how to do it or where to attach it but I have adjusted the frequency of the oscillator to 105 kHz.

Could someone please help me with what could be causing the high frequency dominance as well as the lower recording levels and how to fix it?

Thanks and best regards
Nadeem
 		 	   		  
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From geoffgmfisher at hotmail.com  Sun Aug 25 02:19:40 2013
From: geoffgmfisher at hotmail.com (Geoff Fisher)
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 10:19:40 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] Seeking a T301 bias oscillator for a Nakamichi 480
In-Reply-To: <CAM9V8Mf1p8d9whEmk2oAXuQCoCS6ob7u6vRM52YSFiOiWkQMgQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU0-SMTP1991F3D87F6349D568B6182AB4D0@phx.gbl>
	<CAES7Nr38HZGCQw=K7oxERwkSE0QgxHC5QnMz4m7yZY9YtiG0HQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP2953AEDEDBE800B684CFD39AB480@phx.gbl>

Thanks Willy. And a very big thank you to everyone for all the offers of 
assistance I have received so far.  I'm actually quite blown away by 
it.  This is the first time I've ever posted anything to Naktalk and 
it's been an incredibly positive experience.  Our beloved decks will 
surely never die while support like this continues to exist.  Fantastic 
stuff.

Regards,

Geoff



On 24/08/2013 2:01 AM, Willy Hermann wrote:
> I also have one if the closer one doesn't pan out.
> Willy
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:54 PM, avss01 <avss01 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:avss01 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Geoff
>
>     I have a 481 parts deck at work which should have the same
>     oscillator.  I will have a look when I get in.  You can have it if
>     it matches.  I am in Toowoomba Qld.  Contact me on the following:-
>
>     kingd at usq.edu.au <mailto:kingd at usq.edu.au>
>
>     Regards
>
>     David
>
>
>     On Thursday, August 22, 2013, Geoff Fisher wrote:
>
>         Hello fellow Nak enthusiasts,
>
>         I'm in dire need of a T301 bias oscillator to complete the
>         restoration of a much loved Nakamichi 480 that I have owned
>         since 1985. We've been through a lot together! Sadly, my 480's
>         bias oscillator is damaged. If you have a T301 from a 480
>         parts deck that you'd be willing to sell, please email me. It
>         will most likely have B-6613 stamped on it.
>
>         Any assistance genuinely appreciated.
>
>         Rgds,
>
>         Geoff
>         Australia
>
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From kvarnelis at gmail.com  Sun Aug 25 04:00:05 2013
From: kvarnelis at gmail.com (Kazys Varnelis)
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 22:00:05 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Nak 610
In-Reply-To: <8D06E2270765655-1020-1797@webmail-d230.sysops.aol.com>
References: <201308231002.r7NA04vK009695@zxe.naks.com>
	<8D06E2270765655-1020-1797@webmail-d230.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <2F155CA8-AFDD-46B7-B1D3-80444F298A41@gmail.com>

A nice one came up on eBay but it didn't last long. I decided to buy it now even though, (gulp!) it was $700, but that included a Nakamichi 620 amp too. It happens that I also wound up with a third 630 tuner/preamp so the amp and preamp make a second, rackless system one. Not exactly something I needed, but … 

Unlike the previous one he said it was in "stunning" condition. I can always sell the 620 for $250-$300 if I want. In that case, it'll be a lot better deal than the other unit currently on eBay.   

Now I need an RM-9 so I can hook up two more pairs of speakers!!
On Aug 23, 2013, at 10:16 AM, danbarham at aol.com wrote:

> Hi Kaz,
>  
> 610's do appear on the Bay occasionally but are never inexpensive. Checking the SOLD listings showed four or five that have sold recently with all but one going for big money and the one that was reasonable had incorrect knobs and considerable wear. Patience will eventually reward you but they are out there, especially if you don't mind paying the big money. Are you trying to piece together a SYSTEM 1? Complete SYSTEM 1's show up on the Bay a couple of times per year but go for SERIOUSLY big money! And shipping a whole system is also expensive and risky to receive it undamaged. But they are out there. I would LOVE to have a complete SYSTEM 1 but the only pieces I have ever come across that were affordable for me is the 600/600II cassette decks, which are awesome and sound better than their mechanicals have a right to by the way.
>  
> Dan
>    
> 
> Attached Message
> From:	Kazys Varnelis <kvarnelis at gmail.com>
> To:	Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
> Subject:	[naktalk] Nak 610
> Date:	Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:11:17 -0400
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I'm looking for a black NAK 610. There's one on eBay, but I had a fishy 
> experience asking about the condition and then googled the seller only to find 
> out I wasn't the first.
> 
> If anybody has a spare, please let me know! Also looking for an RM-9 control 
> unit for when I get the 610.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kaz
> 
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 25 22:52:40 2013
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 13:52:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in
	bias	oscillator LX-5
In-Reply-To: <DUB119-W442D481389DC95F5E0EB8BB64F0@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB119-W442D481389DC95F5E0EB8BB64F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1377463960.4580.YahooMailNeo@web160202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

> The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm resistor in series to the 
erase head to measure the erase current but I don't really know how to 
do it...

Do the following only if you are very adept with soldering in very tight spots 
without damaging anything: 

1. Desolder the hot lead (not the shield) from the erase head.
2. Tack-solder a resistor lead to the head, where the wire was. 
3. Solder the wire previously connected to the head to the other resistor lead.
4. Connect a VTVM (must have good response at well over 100KHz) across 
    the resistor, with VTVM probe to the wire side and VTVM ground to the 
    head side, making sure nothing is shorting. 

This is all from memory. If you run into trouble, let us know  :-). 

Both excessive brightness and low recording level could be caused by excessive 
bias current. Recheck after you correctly adjust the bias.

-- Ron






>________________________________
> From: Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk>
>To: naktalk at naks.com 
>Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:36 PM
>Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in bias	oscillator LX-5
> 
>
>
> 
>Hi,
>
>I recently bought an LX-5 which had a low recording level with lot of distortion in both channels so I replaced both the transistors as well as all the orange caps and one 39 ohm fail safe resistor which was blown in the Bias Oscillator circuit.
>
>The good news is that it fixed the distortion problem but I have noticed that the recordings are more bright with emphasis on the high frequencies and less bass. While replacing the caps I noticed that the fail safe resistor R513 (82ohm) had been shorted. I also noticed that the recording level though has increased but still lower by 2 to 3 db than the source (3db lower in left channel and 2db in the right).
>
>The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm resistor in series to the erase head to measure the erase current but I don't really know how to do it or where to attach it but I have adjusted the frequency of the oscillator to 105 kHz.
>
>Could someone please help me with what could be causing the high frequency dominance as well as the lower recording levels and how to fix it?
>
>Thanks and best regards
>Nadeem
>
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From mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk  Mon Aug 26 00:41:35 2013
From: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk (Mercedes Benz)
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 23:41:35 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in	bias
	oscillator LX-5
Message-ID: <SNT403-EAS240AFA628C01E895F42E0D7B6480@phx.gbl>

Thanks for the procedure Ron.

It seems like quite a delicate piece of work which I think I won't be able to perform without ruining the deck. Instead, since you mentioned about high bias current I will try to remove the short from R513 and check if it makes any difference if the effect is opposite to what the deck is currently displaying then i will short the R514 (39ohm) and check again.

I will report back as soon as i have tried it. Thanks again for your help.

Regards
Nadeem


________________________________
From: Ron
Sent: 25/08/2013 22:35
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in bias oscillator LX-5

> The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm resistor in series to the
erase head to measure the erase current but I don't really know how to
do it...

Do the following only if you are very adept with soldering in very tight spots
without damaging anything:

1. Desolder the hot lead (not the shield) from the erase head.
2. Tack-solder a resistor lead to the head, where the wire was.
3. Solder the wire previously connected to the head to the other resistor lead.
4. Connect a VTVM (must have good response at well over 100KHz) across
    the resistor, with VTVM probe to the wire side and VTVM ground to the
    head side, making sure nothing is shorting.

This is all from memory. If you run into trouble, let us know  :-).

Both excessive brightness and low recording level could be caused by excessive
bias current. Recheck after you correctly adjust the bias.

-- Ron






>________________________________
> From: Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk>
>To: naktalk at naks.com
>Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:36 PM
>Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in bias oscillator LX-5
>
>
>
>
>Hi,
>
>I recently bought an LX-5 which had a low recording level with lot of distortion in both channels so I replaced both the transistors as well as all the orange caps and one 39 ohm fail safe resistor which was blown in the Bias Oscillator circuit.
>
>The good news is that it fixed the distortion problem but I have noticed that the recordings are more bright with emphasis on the high frequencies and less bass. While replacing the caps I noticed that the fail safe resistor R513 (82ohm) had been shorted. I also noticed that the recording level though has increased but still lower by 2 to 3 db than the source (3db lower in left channel and 2db in the right).
>
>The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm resistor in series to the erase head to measure the erase current but I don't really know how to do it or where to attach it but I have adjusted the frequency of the oscillator to 105 kHz.
>
>Could someone please help me with what could be causing the high frequency dominance as well as the lower recording levels and how to fix it?
>
>Thanks and best regards
>Nadeem
>
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From g.p.lyskin at paradise.net.nz  Mon Aug 26 10:27:35 2013
From: g.p.lyskin at paradise.net.nz (Gennady Lyskin)
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 20:27:35 +1200
Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in
	biasoscillator LX-5
References: <DUB119-W442D481389DC95F5E0EB8BB64F0@phx.gbl>
	<1377463960.4580.YahooMailNeo@web160202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ADAF28626BED4A57B3D6A5C3D1274A85@emachinef0bb72>

"Both excessive brightness and low recording level could be caused by excessive 
bias current."
Did you mean recessive bias current?

Gennady Lyskin

G e n n L a b
http://www.gennlab.com
info at gennlab.com
Tel: +64 21 238 3056
New Zealand
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  From: Ron 
  To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
  Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 8:52 AM
  Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5


  > The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm resistor in series to the erase head to measure the erase current but I don't really know how to do it...

  Do the following only if you are very adept with soldering in very tight spots 
  without damaging anything: 

  1. Desolder the hot lead (not the shield) from the erase head.
  2. Tack-solder a resistor lead to the head, where the wire was. 
  3. Solder the wire previously connected to the head to the other resistor lead.
  4. Connect a VTVM (must have good response at well over 100KHz) across 
      the resistor, with VTVM probe to the wire side and VTVM ground to the 
      head side, making sure nothing is shorting. 

  This is all from memory. If you run into trouble, let us know  :-). 

  Both excessive brightness and low recording level could be caused by excessive 
  bias current. Recheck after you correctly adjust the bias.

  -- Ron






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    From: Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk>
    To: naktalk at naks.com 
    Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:36 PM
    Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in bias oscillator LX-5



    Hi,

    I recently bought an LX-5 which had a low recording level with lot of distortion in both channels so I replaced both the transistors as well as all the orange caps and one 39 ohm fail safe resistor which was blown in the Bias Oscillator circuit.

    The good news is that it fixed the distortion problem but I have noticed that the recordings are more bright with emphasis on the high frequencies and less bass. While replacing the caps I noticed that the fail safe resistor R513 (82ohm) had been shorted. I also noticed that the recording level though has increased but still lower by 2 to 3 db than the source (3db lower in left channel and 2db in the right).

    The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm resistor in series to the erase head to measure the erase current but I don't really know how to do it or where to attach it but I have adjusted the frequency of the oscillator to 105 kHz.

    Could someone please help me with what could be causing the high frequency dominance as well as the lower recording levels and how to fix it?

    Thanks and best regards
    Nadeem


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From avss01 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 26 11:08:47 2013
From: avss01 at gmail.com (avss01)
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 19:08:47 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] Seeking a T301 bias oscillator for a Nakamichi 480
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP2953AEDEDBE800B684CFD39AB480@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP1991F3D87F6349D568B6182AB4D0@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <CAES7Nr3LQX_R3P+8EreU8Xprudnav4FaFe4t-y-wQJ+ehzceyQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Geoff

I do have the matching transformer if you still want it.  Contact me off
list.

Regards

David

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From rhils at hotmail.com  Mon Aug 26 20:17:29 2013
From: rhils at hotmail.com (Rick Hils)
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 11:17:29 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Nak 480 playback
In-Reply-To: <CAM9V8Mf3+7BYEsHk7qHqzLYn5-CXTq3jztxhVLyuhxQ4sKjQ_g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <61E37C5F-14C0-4C12-9ED3-EB213B781674@rayhogan.net>,
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Willy,

Years ago when I would record using Denon HD-8 or TDK HX-S tape in my 480 the playback always sounded more "live" and "open". 
It sounded better better than when using TDK SAX or Maxell UDXL II.
Was that the tape itself or just the bias/eq setting?

Thanks



 		 	   		  
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From patty at jbrudy.com  Mon Aug 26 22:11:36 2013
From: patty at jbrudy.com (Patty)
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 13:11:36 -0700
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: You can stop trolling NOW. RE: [naktalk]
	RE:Unopened box of	10Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale
In-Reply-To: <A8BA33D5C3959E45BDC166ED2FED44680BD5C890@HVXDSP21.us.lmco.com>
References: <CAMKzjOdt4YXTTSzqYPM9rTWCJufvEOiWhJe7mOROvsnPBFn7xg@mail.gmail.com><BLU0-SMTP4589006190DD0D27CBCAA7A865B0@phx.gbl><4A3548C8A1C74A1B81BD1C1952CAB2F1@UserPC>
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SCOTT GARNER,

 

CONTACT ME OFF OF NAKTALK

 

 

 

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From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Garner, Scott H
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:21 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: You can stop trolling NOW. RE: [naktalk]
RE:Unopened box of 10Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale

 

Patty,

 

I doubt if you would remember me but this is Scott from Coatesville,
remember the town where everyone wears a coat. I just wanted to say the out
of all the service department people I dealt with over the years you where
one of the friendliest. I hope you are doing well.

 

 

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Patty
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 12:44 PM
To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: You can stop trolling NOW. RE: [naktalk] RE: Unopened
box of 10Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale

 

TO ALL,

 

CHERLY WAS DOING ME A GOOD FAVOR.  SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER ME FROM NAKAMICH
PARTS DEPARTMENT  PATTY BERETTA.  I DON'T OWN A COMPUTER AT HOME AND I SPEND
ENOUGH TIME HERE AT WORK ON ONE.  ALSO, I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF HOW TO USE
E-BAY AND WOULD RATHER PEOPLE THAT APPR. NAKAMICH FOR WHAT IS WAS HAVE CRACK
AT THEM.  

 

I WAS WITH NAKAMICHI FOR 16YRS AND WAS ONE OF THE BEST COMPANIES TO WORK FOR
BEFORE THE TAKE OVER, WHICH I WAS THERE FOR ALSO.

 

THANK YOU ALL FOR THE OFFERS. 

AND YES I STILL HAVE SEREVAL OF MY OWN UNITS I STILL LOVE AND LISTEN TO.

 

  _____  

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Cheryl Kaupp
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 9:09 AM
To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'
Subject: You can stop trolling NOW. RE: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of
10Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale

 

She got a few GOOD offers so this thread is DONE.

ck

 

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From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of brian pinkerton
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 2:26 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
sale

I would offer 15.00.

On Aug 11, 2013 7:02 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:



They are not mine -- I am not selling them. Someone I know is selling them
and she had no idea what they were worth.
She asked me to send an email offering the tapes.


-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of VLADO ANGELOV
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:36 PM
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] RE: Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale

I really do wonder why a seller asks a buyer for a price? We all know this
is a rare and expensive item, but never corresponding to price-quality
equation.

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:06:49 -1000
From: Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for
        sale
To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.

  _____

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of ashvin srivastava
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 1:17 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 tapes for sale



How much are you charging

On Aug 8, 2013 8:41 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:



Patty has an unopened box of 10 Nakamichi EXII-C90 cassettes if anyone is
interested.

Let me know how much you would pay for them and I'll let Patty know.

Aloha,
Cheryl

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From ronami at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 27 19:04:14 2013
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 10:04:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps
	in	biasoscillator LX-5
In-Reply-To: <ADAF28626BED4A57B3D6A5C3D1274A85@emachinef0bb72>
References: <DUB119-W442D481389DC95F5E0EB8BB64F0@phx.gbl>
	<1377463960.4580.YahooMailNeo@web160202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<ADAF28626BED4A57B3D6A5C3D1274A85@emachinef0bb72>
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Actually, both (depending on circuit design - I should have said, 'incorrect current'), but 
he mentioned a shorted series resistor.

-- Ron






>________________________________
> From: Gennady Lyskin <g.p.lyskin at paradise.net.nz>
>To: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
>Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 4:27 AM
>Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in	biasoscillator LX-5
> 
>
>
>"Both excessive brightness and low recording level could be caused by 
excessive 
>bias current."
>Did you mean recessive bias current?
>
>Gennady Lyskin
> 
>G e n n L a b
>http://www.gennlab.com
>info at gennlab.com
>Tel: +64 21 238 
3056
>New Zealand
>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: Ron 
>>To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
>>Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 8:52  AM
>>Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems  after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>>
>>
>>>  The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm resistor in series to the erase  head to measure the erase current but I don't really know how to do  it...
>>
>>Do the following only if  you are very adept with soldering in very tight spots 
>>without damaging 
  anything: 
>>
>>1. Desolder the hot lead (not the shield) from the erase 
  head.
>>2. Tack-solder a resistor lead to the head, where the wire was. 
>>3. Solder the wire previously connected to the head to the other resistor 
  lead.
>>4. Connect a VTVM (must have good response at well over 100KHz) 
  across 
>>    the resistor, with VTVM probe to the wire side 
  and VTVM ground to the 
>>    head side, making sure nothing 
  is shorting. 
>>
>>This is all from memory. If you run into trouble,  let us know  :-). 
>>
>>Both excessive brightness and low  recording level could be caused by excessive 
>>bias current. Recheck after 
  you correctly adjust the bias.
>>
>>-- Ron
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>________________________________
>>> From: Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk>
>>>To: naktalk at naks.com 
>>>Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:36  PM
>>>Subject: [naktalk]  Having problems after replacing orange caps in bias oscillator  LX-5
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I recently bought an LX-5 which had a low recording 
    level with lot of distortion in both channels so I replaced both the 
    transistors as well as all the orange caps and one 39 ohm fail safe resistor 
    which was blown in the Bias Oscillator circuit.
>>>
>>>The good news is that 
    it fixed the distortion problem but I have noticed that the recordings are 
    more bright with emphasis on the high frequencies and less bass. While 
    replacing the caps I noticed that the fail safe resistor R513 (82ohm) had 
    been shorted. I also noticed that the recording level though has increased 
    but still lower by 2 to 3 db than the source (3db lower in left channel and 
    2db in the right).
>>>
>>>The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm 
    resistor in series to the erase head to measure the erase current but I 
    don't really know how to do it or where to attach it but I have adjusted the 
    frequency of the oscillator to 105 kHz.
>>>
>>>Could someone please help me 
    with what could be causing the high frequency dominance as well as the lower 
    recording levels and how to fix it?
>>>
>>>Thanks and best 
    regards
>>>Nadeem
>>>
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From mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk  Tue Aug 27 21:08:19 2013
From: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk (Mercedes Benz)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 20:08:19 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps	in
	biasoscillator LX-5
Message-ID: <DUB403-EAS341C61E457D7557DCD12FEB64A0@phx.gbl>

Hi Ron,

Just to update that I un-shorted the 82k resister but it made the recording a bit distorted so I shorted it back again but managed to fix both the problems by adjusting the bias and level following the procedure in the manual. I am happy to report that the recordings are now wonderful on this deck.

Thanks for your help I really appreciate it.

Regards
Nadeem

________________________________
From: Ron
Sent: 27/08/2013 18:46
To: Gennady Lyskin; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5


Actually, both (depending on circuit design - I should have said, 'incorrect current'), but
he mentioned a shorted series resistor.

-- Ron






>________________________________
> From: Gennady Lyskin <g.p.lyskin at paradise.net.nz>
>To: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 4:27 AM
>Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in  biasoscillator LX-5
>
>
>
>"Both excessive brightness and low recording level could be caused by
excessive
>bias current."
>Did you mean recessive bias current?
>
>Gennady Lyskin
> 
>G e n n L a b
>http://www.gennlab.com
>info at gennlab.com
>Tel: +64 21 238
3056
>New Zealand
>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Ron
>>To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>>Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 8:52  AM
>>Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems  after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>>
>>
>>>  The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm resistor in series to the erase  head to measure the erase current but I don't really know how to do  it...
>>
>>Do the following only if  you are very adept with soldering in very tight spots
>>without damaging
  anything:
>>
>>1. Desolder the hot lead (not the shield) from the erase
  head.
>>2. Tack-solder a resistor lead to the head, where the wire was.
>>3. Solder the wire previously connected to the head to the other resistor
  lead.
>>4. Connect a VTVM (must have good response at well over 100KHz)
  across
>>    the resistor, with VTVM probe to the wire side
  and VTVM ground to the
>>    head side, making sure nothing
  is shorting.
>>
>>This is all from memory. If you run into trouble,  let us know  :-).
>>
>>Both excessive brightness and low  recording level could be caused by excessive
>>bias current. Recheck after
  you correctly adjust the bias.
>>
>>-- Ron
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>________________________________
>>> From: Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk>
>>>To: naktalk at naks.com
>>>Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:36  PM
>>>Subject: [naktalk]  Having problems after replacing orange caps in bias oscillator  LX-5
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I recently bought an LX-5 which had a low recording
    level with lot of distortion in both channels so I replaced both the
    transistors as well as all the orange caps and one 39 ohm fail safe resistor
    which was blown in the Bias Oscillator circuit.
>>>
>>>The good news is that
    it fixed the distortion problem but I have noticed that the recordings are
    more bright with emphasis on the high frequencies and less bass. While
    replacing the caps I noticed that the fail safe resistor R513 (82ohm) had
    been shorted. I also noticed that the recording level though has increased
    but still lower by 2 to 3 db than the source (3db lower in left channel and
    2db in the right).
>>>
>>>The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm
    resistor in series to the erase head to measure the erase current but I
    don't really know how to do it or where to attach it but I have adjusted the
    frequency of the oscillator to 105 kHz.
>>>
>>>Could someone please help me
    with what could be causing the high frequency dominance as well as the lower
    recording levels and how to fix it?
>>>
>>>Thanks and best
    regards
>>>Nadeem
>>>
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From mark8559 at hotmail.com  Tue Aug 27 23:08:18 2013
From: mark8559 at hotmail.com (Mark Exstedt)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 15:08:18 -0600
Subject: FW: [naktalk] Nak 480 playback
In-Reply-To: <BLU177-W37423E263AA2C642965D03A3490@phx.gbl>
References: <61E37C5F-14C0-4C12-9ED3-EB213B781674@rayhogan.net>, ,
	<CAM9V8Mf3+7BYEsHk7qHqzLYn5-CXTq3jztxhVLyuhxQ4sKjQ_g@mail.gmail.com>,
	<BLU177-W37423E263AA2C642965D03A3490@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU168-W151CC4C0D8FC716E5DB778DB4A0@phx.gbl>

You can't go wrong with the HD-8 as even the used ones sell well on Ebay.
 
My experience was the HD-8 worked well in all machines and usually sounding better (my opinion) than a TDK SA or even an SAX. The HD-8's had better highs as you're describing always sounded more "live" and "open". 

Yes, back in the day, the HD-8's were more expensive so I bought a few. My satisfaction with the TDK SA-90's were 100% satisfied in performance and value so that was my favorite tape.
 
From: rhils at hotmail.com
To: naktalk at naks.com
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 11:17:29 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Nak 480 playback




Willy,

Years ago when I would record using Denon HD-8 or TDK HX-S tape in my 480 the playback always sounded more "live" and "open". 
It sounded better better than when using TDK SAX or Maxell UDXL II.
Was that the tape itself or just the bias/eq setting?

Thanks



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From mark8559 at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 28 07:30:35 2013
From: mark8559 at hotmail.com (Mark Exstedt)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 23:30:35 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] Ebay Seller has Cat Scratching High Dollar Item
In-Reply-To: <40FD121C-5E49-483D-A448-A8511A634163@cox.net>
References: <J1aL1m0060r4Up5011aLs6>, <40FD121C-5E49-483D-A448-A8511A634163@cox.net>
Message-ID: <BLU168-W38ACDD6AFA8C3FE2FBF603DB4B0@phx.gbl>


Years ago, a Naktalk dude posted an Ebay listing showing a cat on top of  cassette deck.
Things have not gotten better.
What's the advantage of this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Acoustic-Research-AR-4x-AR4x-Speakers-New-Grills-Crosswovers-Refurbished-EXC-/231034745738?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item35cabe738a
 		 	   		  

 		 	   		  
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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 28 09:40:40 2013
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 00:40:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Nak 480 playback
In-Reply-To: <BLU168-W151CC4C0D8FC716E5DB778DB4A0@phx.gbl>
References: <61E37C5F-14C0-4C12-9ED3-EB213B781674@rayhogan.net>, ,
	<CAM9V8Mf3+7BYEsHk7qHqzLYn5-CXTq3jztxhVLyuhxQ4sKjQ_g@mail.gmail.com>,
	<BLU177-W37423E263AA2C642965D03A3490@phx.gbl>
	<BLU168-W151CC4C0D8FC716E5DB778DB4A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1377675640.95204.YahooMailNeo@web163804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

2nd the TDA-SAs!

Cheers, 
Bala 


________________________________
 From: Mark Exstedt <mark8559 at hotmail.com>
To: "naktalk at naks.com" <naktalk at naks.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 7:08 AM
Subject: FW: [naktalk] Nak 480 playback
 


 
You can't go wrong with the HD-8 as even the used ones sell well on Ebay.
 
My experience was the HD-8 worked well in all machines and usually sounding better (my opinion) than a TDK SA or even an SAX. The HD-8's had better highs as you're describing always sounded more "live" and "open". 

Yes, back in the day, the HD-8's were more expensive so I bought a few. My satisfaction with the TDK SA-90's were 100% satisfied in performance and value so that was my favorite tape.
 


________________________________
From: rhils at hotmail.com
To: naktalk at naks.com
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 11:17:29 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Nak 480 playback

 
Willy,

Years ago when I would record using Denon HD-8 or TDK HX-S tape in my 480 the playback always sounded more "live" and "open". 
It sounded better better than when using TDK SAX or Maxell UDXL II.
Was that the tape itself or just the bias/eq setting?

Thanks



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From shorty1275nz at actrix.co.nz  Wed Aug 28 11:23:45 2013
From: shorty1275nz at actrix.co.nz (Martin Short)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 21:23:45 +1200
Subject: [naktalk] Ebay Seller has Cat Scratching High Dollar Item
References: <J1aL1m0060r4Up5011aLs6>,
	<40FD121C-5E49-483D-A448-A8511A634163@cox.net>
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Simply to show that they have had a cat scan and are in purrfect condition.......

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mark Exstedt 
  To: naktalk at naks.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 5:30 PM
  Subject: [naktalk] Ebay Seller has Cat Scratching High Dollar Item



  Years ago, a Naktalk dude posted an Ebay listing showing a cat on top of  cassette deck.
  Things have not gotten better.
  What's the advantage of this?

  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Acoustic-Research-AR-4x-AR4x-Speakers-New-Grills-Crosswovers-Refurbished-EXC-/231034745738?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item35cabe738a

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From mark8559 at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 28 18:32:03 2013
From: mark8559 at hotmail.com (Mark Exstedt)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 10:32:03 -0600
Subject: FW: [naktalk] Ebay Seller has Cat Scratching High Dollar Item
In-Reply-To: <0D04A9675BDF49CCB6FBF5ADD592FEDD@desktop>
References: <J1aL1m0060r4Up5011aLs6>, ,
	<40FD121C-5E49-483D-A448-A8511A634163@cox.net>,
	<BLU168-W38ACDD6AFA8C3FE2FBF603DB4B0@phx.gbl>,
	<0D04A9675BDF49CCB6FBF5ADD592FEDD@desktop>
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So thru the cat scan, if the item's not purrfect, does the cat then piss on the item? How gross!
 
From: shorty1275nz at actrix.co.nz
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Ebay Seller has Cat Scratching High Dollar Item
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 21:23:45 +1200








Simply to show that they have had a cat scan and 
are in purrfect condition.......
 
----- Original Message ----- 

  From: 
  Mark 
  Exstedt 
  To: naktalk at naks.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 5:30 
  PM
  Subject: [naktalk] Ebay Seller has Cat 
  Scratching High Dollar Item
  

  
Years ago, a Naktalk dude posted an Ebay listing showing 
  a cat on top of  cassette deck.
Things have not gotten 
  better.
What's the advantage of this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Acoustic-Research-AR-4x-AR4x-Speakers-New-Grills-Crosswovers-Refurbished-EXC-/231034745738?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item35cabe738a



 		 	   		  
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From aburkhart at unilect.com  Wed Aug 28 19:25:02 2013
From: aburkhart at unilect.com (Andrew Burkhart)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 10:25:02 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Ebay Seller has Cat Scratching High Dollar Item
In-Reply-To: <0D04A9675BDF49CCB6FBF5ADD592FEDD@desktop>
References: <J1aL1m0060r4Up5011aLs6>
	<40FD121C-5E49-483D-A448-A8511A634163@cox.net>
	<BLU168-W38ACDD6AFA8C3FE2FBF603DB4B0@phx.gbl>
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From Martin Short. What did you expect? ; )

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 28, 2013, at 2:23 AM, "Martin Short" <shorty1275nz at actrix.co.nz> wrote:

> Simply to show that they have had a cat scan and are in purrfect condition.......
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mark Exstedt
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 5:30    PM
> Subject: [naktalk] Ebay Seller has Cat Scratching High Dollar Item
> 
> 
> Years ago, a Naktalk dude posted an Ebay listing showing a cat on top of  cassette deck.
> Things have not gotten better.
> What's the advantage of this?
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Acoustic-Research-AR-4x-AR4x-Speakers-New-Grills-Crosswovers-Refurbished-EXC-/231034745738?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item35cabe738a
> 
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From kvarnelis at gmail.com  Wed Aug 28 21:23:33 2013
From: kvarnelis at gmail.com (Kazys Varnelis)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 15:23:33 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Ebay Seller has Cat Scratching High Dollar Item
In-Reply-To: <0D55BE06-62AC-424E-AF6E-DFFE6300B1E7@unilect.com>
References: <J1aL1m0060r4Up5011aLs6>
	<40FD121C-5E49-483D-A448-A8511A634163@cox.net>
	<BLU168-W38ACDD6AFA8C3FE2FBF603DB4B0@phx.gbl>
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Probably playing Ted Nugent.

Sorry. Couldn't resist. 
On Aug 28, 2013, at 1:25 PM, Andrew Burkhart <aburkhart at unilect.com> wrote:

> From Martin Short. What did you expect? ; )
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 28, 2013, at 2:23 AM, "Martin Short" <shorty1275nz at actrix.co.nz> wrote:
> 
>> Simply to show that they have had a cat scan and are in purrfect condition.......
>>  
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Mark Exstedt
>> To: naktalk at naks.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 5:30 PM
>> Subject: [naktalk] Ebay Seller has Cat Scratching High Dollar Item
>> 
>> 
>> Years ago, a Naktalk dude posted an Ebay listing showing a cat on top of  cassette deck.
>> Things have not gotten better.
>> What's the advantage of this?
>> 
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Acoustic-Research-AR-4x-AR4x-Speakers-New-Grills-Crosswovers-Refurbished-EXC-/231034745738?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item35cabe738a
>> 
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From mstager at verizon.net  Wed Aug 28 21:33:18 2013
From: mstager at verizon.net (Marc Stager)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 15:33:18 -0400
Subject: FW: [naktalk] Ebay Seller has Cat Scratching High Dollar  Item
In-Reply-To: <BLU168-W66D8DBE856362B82D59AF5DB4B0@phx.gbl>
References: <J1aL1m0060r4Up5011aLs6>
	<40FD121C-5E49-483D-A448-A8511A634163@cox.net>
	<BLU168-W38ACDD6AFA8C3FE2FBF603DB4B0@phx.gbl>
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Cats scan do anything they damn well please.

or -

Just being fair... there's a tweeter and a woofer.
So what was missing?
A meower.

Problem fixed!
(...yeah, the cat.too)

-----------------

At 12:32 PM 8/28/2013, you wrote:

>So thru the cat scan, if the item's not purrfect, does the cat then 
>piss on the item?
>How gross!

-------------------

>From: shorty1275nz at actrix.co.nz
>Simply to show that they have had a cat scan and are in purrfect 
>condition.......
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:mark8559 at hotmail.com>Mark Exstedt
>Years ago, a Naktalk dude posted an Ebay listing showing a cat on 
>top of cassette deck.
>Things have not gotten better. What's the advantage of this?
><http://www.ebay.com/itm/Acoustic-Research-AR-4x-AR4x-Speakers-New-Grills-Crosswovers-Refurbished-EXC-/231034745738?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item35cabe738a>http://www.ebay.com/itm/Acoustic-Research-AR-4x-AR4x-Speakers-New-Grills-Crosswovers-Refurbished-EXC-/231034745738?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item35cabe738a 
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From mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk  Wed Aug 28 21:46:38 2013
From: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk (Mercedes Benz)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 20:46:38 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps	in
	biasoscillator LX-5
Message-ID: <SNT403-EAS116AD1B4CB7EA0AEB6C0EF6B64B0@phx.gbl>

I think I celebrated too early as the deck has now developed a new fault.

Now there is a -20 to -30db crackling noise coming from the right channel while recording even without any source signal. It also doesn't make any difference which tape type is selected.

Could it be one of the transistors which I bought really cheap from eBay or something else? Could someone please help me fix it?

Thanks and best regards
Nadeem


________________________________
From: Mercedes Benz
Sent: 27/08/2013 21:07
To: NakTalk
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5

Hi Ron,

Just to update that I un-shorted the 82k resister but it made the recording a bit distorted so I shorted it back again but managed to fix both the problems by adjusting the bias and level following the procedure in the manual. I am happy to report that the recordings are now wonderful on this deck.

Thanks for your help I really appreciate it.

Regards
Nadeem

________________________________
From: Ron
Sent: 27/08/2013 18:46
To: Gennady Lyskin; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5


Actually, both (depending on circuit design - I should have said, 'incorrect current'), but
he mentioned a shorted series resistor.

-- Ron






>________________________________
> From: Gennady Lyskin <g.p.lyskin at paradise.net.nz>
>To: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 4:27 AM
>Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in  biasoscillator LX-5
>
>
>
>"Both excessive brightness and low recording level could be caused by
excessive
>bias current."
>Did you mean recessive bias current?
>
>Gennady Lyskin
> 
>G e n n L a b
>http://www.gennlab.com
>info at gennlab.com
>Tel: +64 21 238
3056
>New Zealand
>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Ron
>>To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>>Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 8:52  AM
>>Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems  after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>>
>>
>>>  The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm resistor in series to the erase  head to measure the erase current but I don't really know how to do  it...
>>
>>Do the following only if  you are very adept with soldering in very tight spots
>>without damaging
  anything:
>>
>>1. Desolder the hot lead (not the shield) from the erase
  head.
>>2. Tack-solder a resistor lead to the head, where the wire was.
>>3. Solder the wire previously connected to the head to the other resistor
  lead.
>>4. Connect a VTVM (must have good response at well over 100KHz)
  across
>>    the resistor, with VTVM probe to the wire side
  and VTVM ground to the
>>    head side, making sure nothing
  is shorting.
>>
>>This is all from memory. If you run into trouble,  let us know  :-).
>>
>>Both excessive brightness and low  recording level could be caused by excessive
>>bias current. Recheck after
  you correctly adjust the bias.
>>
>>-- Ron
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>________________________________
>>> From: Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk>
>>>To: naktalk at naks.com
>>>Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:36  PM
>>>Subject: [naktalk]  Having problems after replacing orange caps in bias oscillator  LX-5
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I recently bought an LX-5 which had a low recording
    level with lot of distortion in both channels so I replaced both the
    transistors as well as all the orange caps and one 39 ohm fail safe resistor
    which was blown in the Bias Oscillator circuit.
>>>
>>>The good news is that
    it fixed the distortion problem but I have noticed that the recordings are
    more bright with emphasis on the high frequencies and less bass. While
    replacing the caps I noticed that the fail safe resistor R513 (82ohm) had
    been shorted. I also noticed that the recording level though has increased
    but still lower by 2 to 3 db than the source (3db lower in left channel and
    2db in the right).
>>>
>>>The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm
    resistor in series to the erase head to measure the erase current but I
    don't really know how to do it or where to attach it but I have adjusted the
    frequency of the oscillator to 105 kHz.
>>>
>>>Could someone please help me
    with what could be causing the high frequency dominance as well as the lower
    recording levels and how to fix it?
>>>
>>>Thanks and best
    regards
>>>Nadeem
>>>
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From frogfoot2005 at hotmail.com  Thu Aug 29 01:41:37 2013
From: frogfoot2005 at hotmail.com (klaas vaak)
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 01:41:37 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] nak lx3 wont record
Message-ID: <DUB122-W21A0F06F54F49179C8DBACC64B0@phx.gbl>

hi,

im having a problem with my lx3 , it doesnt record.
Everything works mechanically but i doesnt get a signal.
I geuss the rec bias osc isnt working anymore.
Probebly been ask many times before but can anybody tel me which parts i have to exchange???
i was thinking about the pp caps 136 & 236 and maybe the transistors 2sc2878.
also the fade up and down doesnt work it stays in down , i think the startup position is up.
All help is much appeciated.

greetings 		 	   		  


From the1andonlypieper at hotmail.com  Thu Aug 29 18:49:55 2013
From: the1andonlypieper at hotmail.com (pieter rodgers)
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 18:49:55 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] nak lx3 wont record
In-Reply-To: <DUB122-W21A0F06F54F49179C8DBACC64B0@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB122-W21A0F06F54F49179C8DBACC64B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <DUB122-W137D3333A69C63A5224131E3340@phx.gbl>

hi all out there and especially gerhard wartha..
first I hope klaas vaak finds a solution to his problem

I´m experiencing problems with my Nak ZX-9.. a few days ago it didn´t play tapes at all.. this problem has solved itself !!now the sound drops on both channels after a couple of seconds playing time to almost fully disappear.. when I stop the tape and immediately press play again, the sound will start loud and then very fast go downhill.. time after time..I´m not very technical.. any help would be appreciated, but I think I´m in need of help.. and seeing I live in Essen, Germany I was thinking of Gerhard...
greetings,
pieter rodgersessen, germany..

> From: frogfoot2005 at hotmail.com
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 01:41:37 +0200
> Subject: [naktalk] nak lx3 wont record
> 
> hi,
> 
> im having a problem with my lx3 , it doesnt record.
> Everything works mechanically but i doesnt get a signal.
> I geuss the rec bias osc isnt working anymore.
> Probebly been ask many times before but can anybody tel me which parts i have to exchange???
> i was thinking about the pp caps 136 & 236 and maybe the transistors 2sc2878.
> also the fade up and down doesnt work it stays in down , i think the startup position is up.
> All help is much appeciated.
> 
> greetings 		 	   		  
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From willy at willyhermannservices.com  Thu Aug 29 19:59:01 2013
From: willy at willyhermannservices.com (Willy Hermann)
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 10:59:01 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] nak lx3 wont record
In-Reply-To: <DUB122-W137D3333A69C63A5224131E3340@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB122-W21A0F06F54F49179C8DBACC64B0@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <CAM9V8Mc0DuZavEro7jPnau+UE44xrc+wjcMZhXyHm3VGwMTcfw@mail.gmail.com>

The trouble with your ZX-9 is almost certainly a mechanical one.  In the
dual capstan system, the capstans must turn at exactly the correct speed in
order to maintain tension across the heads.  
What you're describing is the sound of the tape beginning to slack and
losing contact with the play head.  When play is depressed, the take-up hub
will begin to turn slightly before the leading pinch roller contacts its
capstan shaft so the tape begins with tension and will play.  The leading
capstan then doesn't maintain correct speed and the trailing capstan
continues to feed tape from the supply reel so the tape will begin to slack.
This is typically caused by either a worn/stretched capstan belt or
hardening lubricant in the capstan bearings.  If you're not very technical
I might suggest sending the deck off to B&W in the UK.
Best of luck.
Willy



On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 9:49 AM, pieter rodgers <
the1andonlypieper at hotmail.com> wrote:

> hi all out there and especially gerhard wartha..
>
> first I hope klaas vaak finds a solution to his problem
>
> I´m experiencing problems with my Nak ZX-9.. a few days ago it didn´t play
> tapes at all.. this problem has solved itself !!
> now the sound drops on both channels after a couple of seconds playing
> time to almost fully disappear.. when I stop the tape and immediately press
> play again, the sound will start loud and then very fast go downhill.. time
> after time..
> I´m not very technical.. any help would be appreciated, but I think I´m in
> need of help.. and seeing I live in Essen, Germany I was thinking of
> Gerhard...
>
> greetings,
>
> pieter rodgers
> essen, germany..
>
> > From: frogfoot2005 at hotmail.com
> > To: naktalk at naks.com
> > Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 01:41:37 +0200
> > Subject: [naktalk] nak lx3 wont record
> >
> > hi,
> >
> > im having a problem with my lx3 , it doesnt record.
> > Everything works mechanically but i doesnt get a signal.
> > I geuss the rec bias osc isnt working anymore.
> > Probebly been ask many times before but can anybody tel me which parts i
> have to exchange???
> > i was thinking about the pp caps 136 & 236 and maybe the transistors
> 2sc2878.
> > also the fade up and down doesnt work it stays in down , i think the
> startup position is up.
> > All help is much appeciated.
> >
> > greetings
> >
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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 29 22:54:02 2013
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh)
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 06:54:02 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] nak lx3 wont record
In-Reply-To: <DUB122-W137D3333A69C63A5224131E3340@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB122-W21A0F06F54F49179C8DBACC64B0@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <100707B7-7C00-4515-8BC6-B4217A3014AA@yahoo.com>

Hello Pieter, 

Did you try cleaning the pinch rollers? Give them a very good scrub with an appropriate cleaning fluid. Also, put the deck in play mode to see if both the pinch rollers come up into contact with the capstan shafts. But, here's the trick - observe them closer as you hit stop,because they should,come down quickly and smoothly without hesitation. 

Also, check the capstan belt inside the machine. That will be your first and second step. Keep us posted how it goes - I'm sure the collective of us can get your deck going. Being In Germany, you a few service options such as Norman in the Netherlands or Luis in Spain. These gents are on this list too. 

Best Regards, 
Bala Ganesh

On 30/08/2013, at 2:49 AM, pieter rodgers <the1andonlypieper at hotmail.com> wrote:

> hi all out there and especially gerhard wartha..
> 
> first I hope klaas vaak finds a solution to his problem
> 
> I´m experiencing problems with my Nak ZX-9.. a few days ago it didn´t play tapes at all.. this problem has solved itself !!
> now the sound drops on both channels after a couple of seconds playing time to almost fully disappear.. when I stop the tape and immediately press play again, the sound will start loud and then very fast go downhill.. time after time..
> I´m not very technical.. any help would be appreciated, but I think I´m in need of help.. and seeing I live in Essen, Germany I was thinking of Gerhard...
> 
> greetings,
> 
> pieter rodgers
> essen, germany..
> 
> > From: frogfoot2005 at hotmail.com
> > To: naktalk at naks.com
> > Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 01:41:37 +0200
> > Subject: [naktalk] nak lx3 wont record
> > 
> > hi,
> > 
> > im having a problem with my lx3 , it doesnt record.
> > Everything works mechanically but i doesnt get a signal.
> > I geuss the rec bias osc isnt working anymore.
> > Probebly been ask many times before but can anybody tel me which parts i have to exchange???
> > i was thinking about the pp caps 136 & 236 and maybe the transistors 2sc2878.
> > also the fade up and down doesnt work it stays in down , i think the startup position is up.
> > All help is much appeciated.
> > 
> > greetings 
> > ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
> > Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
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From perry.nak at comcast.net  Thu Aug 29 16:44:11 2013
From: perry.nak at comcast.net (Perry Esposito)
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 10:44:11 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Lx3 doesn't record
Message-ID: <AA9F55C9-DA12-48C7-B677-E48FBD88DBC5@comcast.net>


The reason it doesn't record is because the mute is stuck down, which is usually a failed diode or sometimes a transistor. 

Sent from Perry Esposito via iPhone


From pinkert6 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 29 22:58:41 2013
From: pinkert6 at gmail.com (brian pinkerton)
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 13:58:41 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] nak lx3 wont record
In-Reply-To: <DUB122-W137D3333A69C63A5224131E3340@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB122-W21A0F06F54F49179C8DBACC64B0@phx.gbl>
	<DUB122-W137D3333A69C63A5224131E3340@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAMKzjOfpbouFZ5omSrQzJozW5FcbhUFsujc0yWtmoX9VY=8iXw@mail.gmail.com>

Wow same exact issue with my Pioneer CTF 1250. Someone told me to replace
the pinch rollers.
On Aug 29, 2013 1:16 PM, "pieter rodgers" <the1andonlypieper at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> hi all out there and especially gerhard wartha..
>
> first I hope klaas vaak finds a solution to his problem
>
> I´m experiencing problems with my Nak ZX-9.. a few days ago it didn´t play
> tapes at all.. this problem has solved itself !!
> now the sound drops on both channels after a couple of seconds playing
> time to almost fully disappear.. when I stop the tape and immediately press
> play again, the sound will start loud and then very fast go downhill.. time
> after time..
> I´m not very technical.. any help would be appreciated, but I think I´m in
> need of help.. and seeing I live in Essen, Germany I was thinking of
> Gerhard...
>
> greetings,
>
> pieter rodgers
> essen, germany..
>
> > From: frogfoot2005 at hotmail.com
> > To: naktalk at naks.com
> > Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 01:41:37 +0200
> > Subject: [naktalk] nak lx3 wont record
> >
> > hi,
> >
> > im having a problem with my lx3 , it doesnt record.
> > Everything works mechanically but i doesnt get a signal.
> > I geuss the rec bias osc isnt working anymore.
> > Probebly been ask many times before but can anybody tel me which parts i
> have to exchange???
> > i was thinking about the pp caps 136 & 236 and maybe the transistors
> 2sc2878.
> > also the fade up and down doesnt work it stays in down , i think the
> startup position is up.
> > All help is much appeciated.
> >
> > greetings
> >
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From mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk  Thu Aug 29 23:40:17 2013
From: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk (Mercedes Benz)
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 22:40:17 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps	in
	biasoscillator LX-5
Message-ID: <DUB404-EAS38654EEC9FC986656B3C7FEB6340@phx.gbl>

Hi everyone,

Today I replaced the transistor in the bias oscillator circuit but it made no difference at all. There is still crackling noise in the right channel during recording even without any source signal. But one thing I have noticed that the noise only starts 5 to 10 minutes into recording but doesn't appear when the deck is cold. So there is something failing after getting warm. The deck plays well without any noise though.

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks & best regards
Nadeem

Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Mercedes Benz
Sent: 28/08/2013 23:01
To: NakTalk
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5

I think I celebrated too early as the deck has now developed a new fault.

Now there is a -20 to -30db crackling noise coming from the right channel while recording even without any source signal. It also doesn't make any difference which tape type is selected.

Could it be one of the transistors which I bought really cheap from eBay or something else? Could someone please help me fix it?

Thanks and best regards
Nadeem


________________________________
From: Mercedes Benz
Sent: 27/08/2013 21:07
To: NakTalk
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5

Hi Ron,

Just to update that I un-shorted the 82k resister but it made the recording a bit distorted so I shorted it back again but managed to fix both the problems by adjusting the bias and level following the procedure in the manual. I am happy to report that the recordings are now wonderful on this deck.

Thanks for your help I really appreciate it.

Regards
Nadeem

________________________________
From: Ron
Sent: 27/08/2013 18:46
To: Gennady Lyskin; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5


Actually, both (depending on circuit design - I should have said, 'incorrect current'), but
he mentioned a shorted series resistor.

-- Ron






>________________________________
> From: Gennady Lyskin <g.p.lyskin at paradise.net.nz>
>To: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 4:27 AM
>Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in  biasoscillator LX-5
>
>
>
>"Both excessive brightness and low recording level could be caused by
excessive
>bias current."
>Did you mean recessive bias current?
>
>Gennady Lyskin
> 
>G e n n L a b
>http://www.gennlab.com
>info at gennlab.com
>Tel: +64 21 238
3056
>New Zealand
>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Ron
>>To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>>Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 8:52  AM
>>Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems  after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>>
>>
>>>  The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm resistor in series to the erase  head to measure the erase current but I don't really know how to do  it...
>>
>>Do the following only if  you are very adept with soldering in very tight spots
>>without damaging
  anything:
>>
>>1. Desolder the hot lead (not the shield) from the erase
  head.
>>2. Tack-solder a resistor lead to the head, where the wire was.
>>3. Solder the wire previously connected to the head to the other resistor
  lead.
>>4. Connect a VTVM (must have good response at well over 100KHz)
  across
>>    the resistor, with VTVM probe to the wire side
  and VTVM ground to the
>>    head side, making sure nothing
  is shorting.
>>
>>This is all from memory. If you run into trouble,  let us know  :-).
>>
>>Both excessive brightness and low  recording level could be caused by excessive
>>bias current. Recheck after
  you correctly adjust the bias.
>>
>>-- Ron
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>________________________________
>>> From: Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk>
>>>To: naktalk at naks.com
>>>Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:36  PM
>>>Subject: [naktalk]  Having problems after replacing orange caps in bias oscillator  LX-5
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I recently bought an LX-5 which had a low recording
    level with lot of distortion in both channels so I replaced both the
    transistors as well as all the orange caps and one 39 ohm fail safe resistor
    which was blown in the Bias Oscillator circuit.
>>>
>>>The good news is that
    it fixed the distortion problem but I have noticed that the recordings are
    more bright with emphasis on the high frequencies and less bass. While
    replacing the caps I noticed that the fail safe resistor R513 (82ohm) had
    been shorted. I also noticed that the recording level though has increased
    but still lower by 2 to 3 db than the source (3db lower in left channel and
    2db in the right).
>>>
>>>The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm
    resistor in series to the erase head to measure the erase current but I
    don't really know how to do it or where to attach it but I have adjusted the
    frequency of the oscillator to 105 kHz.
>>>
>>>Could someone please help me
    with what could be causing the high frequency dominance as well as the lower
    recording levels and how to fix it?
>>>
>>>Thanks and best
    regards
>>>Nadeem
>>>
>>>========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>> 
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From n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl  Fri Aug 30 11:22:25 2013
From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl (Ziggo)
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 11:22:25 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] nak lx3 wont record
In-Reply-To: <CAMKzjOfpbouFZ5omSrQzJozW5FcbhUFsujc0yWtmoX9VY=8iXw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DUB122-W21A0F06F54F49179C8DBACC64B0@phx.gbl>
	<DUB122-W137D3333A69C63A5224131E3340@phx.gbl>
	<CAMKzjOfpbouFZ5omSrQzJozW5FcbhUFsujc0yWtmoX9VY=8iXw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <68B34A6F-2C54-43E9-A40A-C0DCE90B9AE8@ziggo.nl>

Hi,

It is also possible that hardened grease inside the zx9 transport is the reason. Then the pinch rollers and heads do not make good contact to the tape .

Best regards

Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

Op 29 aug. 2013 om 22:58 heeft brian pinkerton <pinkert6 at gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:

> Wow same exact issue with my Pioneer CTF 1250. Someone told me to replace the pinch rollers.
> 
> On Aug 29, 2013 1:16 PM, "pieter rodgers" <the1andonlypieper at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> hi all out there and especially gerhard wartha..
>> 
>> first I hope klaas vaak finds a solution to his problem
>> 
>> I´m experiencing problems with my Nak ZX-9.. a few days ago it didn´t play tapes at all.. this problem has solved itself !!
>> now the sound drops on both channels after a couple of seconds playing time to almost fully disappear.. when I stop the tape and immediately press play again, the sound will start loud and then very fast go downhill.. time after time..
>> I´m not very technical.. any help would be appreciated, but I think I´m in need of help.. and seeing I live in Essen, Germany I was thinking of Gerhard...
>> 
>> greetings,
>> 
>> pieter rodgers
>> essen, germany..
>> 
>> > From: frogfoot2005 at hotmail.com
>> > To: naktalk at naks.com
>> > Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 01:41:37 +0200
>> > Subject: [naktalk] nak lx3 wont record
>> > 
>> > hi,
>> > 
>> > im having a problem with my lx3 , it doesnt record.
>> > Everything works mechanically but i doesnt get a signal.
>> > I geuss the rec bias osc isnt working anymore.
>> > Probebly been ask many times before but can anybody tel me which parts i have to exchange???
>> > i was thinking about the pp caps 136 & 236 and maybe the transistors 2sc2878.
>> > also the fade up and down doesnt work it stays in down , i think the startup position is up.
>> > All help is much appeciated.
>> > 
>> > greetings 
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From n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl  Fri Aug 30 11:24:14 2013
From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl (Ziggo)
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 11:24:14 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps	in
	biasoscillator LX-5
In-Reply-To: <DUB404-EAS38654EEC9FC986656B3C7FEB6340@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB404-EAS38654EEC9FC986656B3C7FEB6340@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <EAC4EBEA-8801-45EB-BA29-A5CCB4AB922E@ziggo.nl>

Hi,

Does it make difference if you turn dolby on or off? The orange caps of the dolby circuit are also suspected

Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

Op 29 aug. 2013 om 23:40 heeft Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk> het volgende geschreven:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> Today I replaced the transistor in the bias oscillator circuit but it made no difference at all. There is still crackling noise in the right channel during recording even without any source signal. But one thing I have noticed that the noise only starts 5 to 10 minutes into recording but doesn't appear when the deck is cold. So there is something failing after getting warm. The deck plays well without any noise though.
> 
> Any help will be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks & best regards
> Nadeem
> 
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> From: Mercedes Benz
> Sent: 28/08/2013 23:01
> To: NakTalk
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
> 
> I think I celebrated too early as the deck has now developed a new fault. 
> 
> Now there is a -20 to -30db crackling noise coming from the right channel while recording even without any source signal. It also doesn't make any difference which tape type is selected. 
> 
> Could it be one of the transistors which I bought really cheap from eBay or something else? Could someone please help me fix it?
> 
> Thanks and best regards
> Nadeem
> 
> 
> From: Mercedes Benz
> Sent: 27/08/2013 21:07
> To: NakTalk
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
> 
> Hi Ron,
> 
> Just to update that I un-shorted the 82k resister but it made the recording a bit distorted so I shorted it back again but managed to fix both the problems by adjusting the bias and level following the procedure in the manual. I am happy to report that the recordings are now wonderful on this deck.
> 
> Thanks for your help I really appreciate it.
> 
> Regards
> Nadeem
> 
> From: Ron
> Sent: 27/08/2013 18:46
> To: Gennady Lyskin; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
> 
> 
> Actually, both (depending on circuit design - I should have said, 'incorrect current'), but 
> he mentioned a shorted series resistor.
> 
> -- Ron
> 
> 
> 
> From: Gennady Lyskin <g.p.lyskin at paradise.net.nz>
> To: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 4:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
> 
> "Both excessive brightness and low recording level could be caused by excessive 
> bias current."
> Did you mean recessive bias current?
> Gennady Lyskin
>  
> G e n n L a b
> http://www.gennlab.com
> info at gennlab.com
> Tel: +64 21 238 3056
> New Zealand
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ron
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 8:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
> 
> > The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm resistor in series to the erase head to measure the erase current but I don't really know how to do it...
> 
> Do the following only if you are very adept with soldering in very tight spots 
> without damaging anything: 
> 
> 1. Desolder the hot lead (not the shield) from the erase head.
> 2. Tack-solder a resistor lead to the head, where the wire was. 
> 3. Solder the wire previously connected to the head to the other resistor lead.
> 4. Connect a VTVM (must have good response at well over 100KHz) across 
>     the resistor, with VTVM probe to the wire side and VTVM ground to the 
>     head side, making sure nothing is shorting. 
> 
> This is all from memory. If you run into trouble, let us know  :-). 
> 
> Both excessive brightness and low recording level could be caused by excessive 
> bias current. Recheck after you correctly adjust the bias.
> 
> -- Ron
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk>
> To: naktalk at naks.com 
> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:36 PM
> Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in bias oscillator LX-5
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I recently bought an LX-5 which had a low recording level with lot of distortion in both channels so I replaced both the transistors as well as all the orange caps and one 39 ohm fail safe resistor which was blown in the Bias Oscillator circuit.
> 
> The good news is that it fixed the distortion problem but I have noticed that the recordings are more bright with emphasis on the high frequencies and less bass. While replacing the caps I noticed that the fail safe resistor R513 (82ohm) had been shorted. I also noticed that the recording level though has increased but still lower by 2 to 3 db than the source (3db lower in left channel and 2db in the right).
> 
> The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm resistor in series to the erase head to measure the erase current but I don't really know how to do it or where to attach it but I have adjusted the frequency of the oscillator to 105 kHz.
> 
> Could someone please help me with what could be causing the high frequency dominance as well as the lower recording levels and how to fix it?
> 
> Thanks and best regards
> Nadeem
> 
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 30 16:07:27 2013
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 07:07:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange
	caps	in	biasoscillator LX-5
In-Reply-To: <SNT403-EAS116AD1B4CB7EA0AEB6C0EF6B64B0@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <1377871647.58970.YahooMailNeo@web160201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>


Such noises can be caused by a PCB hairline crack, bad solder joint, bad resistor, 
cap, transistor or IC -- to mention just a few of the possibilities. I wish I could tell 
you where the fault lies. Unfortunately, this type of fault is tough to diagnose but 
easy to repair. 

To isolate the source of the noise... If you have a signal tracer, you can 
systematically trace from the right channel output, back through the signal path. 
Otherwise, try gingerly tapping various areas of the PCB and/or components in 
suspected locations. If you're lucky, you'll find this causes a change in the noise, 
allowing you to zero in on the fault. 

Good luck,

-- Ron








>________________________________
> From: Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk>
>To: NakTalk <naktalk at naks.com> 
>Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 3:46 PM
>Subject: RE: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps	in	biasoscillator LX-5
> 
>
>
>I think I celebrated too early as the deck has now developed a new fault. 
>
>Now there is a -20 to -30db crackling noise coming from the right channel while recording even without any source signal. It also doesn't make any difference which tape type is selected. 
>
>Could it be one of the transistors which I bought really cheap from eBay or something else? Could someone please help me fix it?
>
>Thanks and best regards
>Nadeem
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Mercedes Benz
>Sent: 27/08/2013 21:07
>To: NakTalk
>Subject: RE: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>
>
>Hi Ron,
>
>Just to update that I un-shorted the 82k resister but it made the recording a bit distorted so I shorted it back again but managed to fix both the problems by adjusting the bias and level following the procedure in the manual. I am happy to report that the
 recordings are now wonderful on this deck.
>
>Thanks for your help I really appreciate it.
>
>Regards
>Nadeem
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Ron
>Sent: 27/08/2013 18:46
>To: Gennady Lyskin; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>
>
>
>Actually, both (depending on circuit design - I should have said, 'incorrect current'), but 
>he mentioned a shorted series resistor.
>
>-- Ron
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>________________________________
>> From: Gennady Lyskin <g.p.lyskin at paradise.net.nz>
>>To: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
>>Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 4:27 AM
>>Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>>
>>
>>
>>"Both excessive brightness and low recording level could be caused by excessive 
>>bias current."
>>Did you mean recessive bias current?
>>
>>Gennady Lyskin
>> 
>>G e n n L a b
>>http://www.gennlab.com
>>info at gennlab.com
>>Tel: +64 21 238 3056
>>New Zealand
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: Ron 
>>>To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
>>>Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 8:52 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>>>
>>>
>>>> The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm resistor in series to the erase head to measure the erase current but I don't really know how to do it...
>>>
>>>Do the following only if you are very adept with soldering in very tight spots 
>>>without damaging anything: 
>>>
>>>1. Desolder the hot lead (not the shield) from the erase head.
>>>2. Tack-solder a resistor lead to the head, where the wire was. 
>>>3. Solder the wire previously connected to the head to the other resistor lead.
>>>4. Connect a VTVM (must have good response at well over 100KHz) across 
>>>    the resistor, with VTVM probe to the wire side and VTVM ground to the 
>>>    head side, making sure nothing is shorting. 
>>>
>>>This is all from memory. If you run into trouble, let us know  :-). 
>>>
>>>Both excessive brightness and low recording level could be caused by excessive 
>>>bias current. Recheck after you correctly adjust the bias.
>>>
>>>-- Ron
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>________________________________
>>>> From: Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk>
>>>>To: naktalk at naks.com 
>>>>Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:36 PM
>>>>Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in bias oscillator LX-5
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>I recently bought an LX-5 which had a low recording level with lot of distortion in both channels so I replaced both the transistors as well as all the orange caps and one 39 ohm fail safe resistor which was blown in the Bias Oscillator circuit.
>>>>
>>>>The good news is that it fixed the distortion problem but I have noticed that the recordings are more bright with emphasis on the high frequencies and less bass. While replacing the caps I noticed that the fail safe resistor R513 (82ohm) had been shorted. I
 also noticed that the recording level though has increased but still lower by 2 to 3 db than the source (3db lower in left channel and 2db in the right).
>>>>
>>>>The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm resistor in series to the erase head to measure the erase current but I don't really know how to do it or where to attach it but I have adjusted the frequency of the oscillator to 105 kHz.
>>>>
>>>>Could someone please help me with what could be causing the high frequency dominance as well as the lower recording levels and how to fix it?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks and best regards
>>>>Nadeem
>>>>
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From latvis at rockdata.org  Fri Aug 30 11:35:21 2013
From: latvis at rockdata.org (Jarmo Latva-Aijo)
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 12:35:21 +0300
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi CR-3E playback/recording cuts highs in another
 channel
Message-ID: <201308301123.r7UBNJJk031471@zxe.naks.com>

Hi,
Sorry my native language is not english..

I'd like to know what is wrong with my very little used Nakamichi 
CR-3E. (I am the first owner since 90s)
In both recording and playback it cuts of the highs of another 
channel. I have tried many cables, many cassettes/types etc. 
Everytime the same thing. The head is cleaned, demagnetized and has 
no signs of heavy use. And if I record to used tape it do not erase 
old recording well.

Because I have use the machine very little I do not even know if that 
has been problem since new - I just found out this when tried to 
digitize some tapes. (yes, I have tested with another cassette deck 
and with it everything is fine)

See the photo http://rockdata.org/naka_problem.jpg

Any help to check/find the problem will be nice. Thanks.

-L



From mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk  Fri Aug 30 17:33:00 2013
From: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk (Mercedes Benz)
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 16:33:00 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps	in
	biasoscillator LX-5
Message-ID: <COL401-EAS3083D9E2DDBE1EE209D8581B6350@phx.gbl>

Hi Norman,

No it does not make any difference if Dolby is on or off. All my testing have been with Dolby off and still this noise appears after 5-10 minutes into the recording, play however is fine. There is no noise in the source and this noise also gets recorded onto tape. Hope this gives some clue.

Regards
Nadeem

Sent from my killer  Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Ziggo
Sent: 30/08/2013 11:39
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5

Hi,

Does it make difference if you turn dolby on or off? The orange caps of the dolby circuit are also suspected

Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

Op 29 aug. 2013 om 23:40 heeft Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk> het volgende geschreven:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Today I replaced the transistor in the bias oscillator circuit but it made no difference at all. There is still crackling noise in the right channel during recording even without any source signal. But one thing I have noticed that the noise only starts 5 to 10 minutes into recording but doesn't appear when the deck is cold. So there is something failing after getting warm. The deck plays well without any noise though.
>
> Any help will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks & best regards
> Nadeem
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> From: Mercedes Benz
> Sent: 28/08/2013 23:01
> To: NakTalk
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>
> I think I celebrated too early as the deck has now developed a new fault.
>
> Now there is a -20 to -30db crackling noise coming from the right channel while recording even without any source signal. It also doesn't make any difference which tape type is selected.
>
> Could it be one of the transistors which I bought really cheap from eBay or something else? Could someone please help me fix it?
>
> Thanks and best regards
> Nadeem
>
>
> From: Mercedes Benz
> Sent: 27/08/2013 21:07
> To: NakTalk
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>
> Hi Ron,
>
> Just to update that I un-shorted the 82k resister but it made the recording a bit distorted so I shorted it back again but managed to fix both the problems by adjusting the bias and level following the procedure in the manual. I am happy to report that the recordings are now wonderful on this deck.
>
> Thanks for your help I really appreciate it.
>
> Regards
> Nadeem
>
> From: Ron
> Sent: 27/08/2013 18:46
> To: Gennady Lyskin; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>
>
> Actually, both (depending on circuit design - I should have said, 'incorrect current'), but
> he mentioned a shorted series resistor.
>
> -- Ron
>
>
>
> From: Gennady Lyskin <g.p.lyskin at paradise.net.nz>
> To: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 4:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>
> "Both excessive brightness and low recording level could be caused by excessive
> bias current."
> Did you mean recessive bias current?
> Gennady Lyskin
>
> G e n n L a b
> http://www.gennlab.com
> info at gennlab.com
> Tel: +64 21 238 3056
> New Zealand
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ron
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 8:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>
> > The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm resistor in series to the erase head to measure the erase current but I don't really know how to do it...
>
> Do the following only if you are very adept with soldering in very tight spots
> without damaging anything:
>
> 1. Desolder the hot lead (not the shield) from the erase head.
> 2. Tack-solder a resistor lead to the head, where the wire was.
> 3. Solder the wire previously connected to the head to the other resistor lead.
> 4. Connect a VTVM (must have good response at well over 100KHz) across
>     the resistor, with VTVM probe to the wire side and VTVM ground to the
>     head side, making sure nothing is shorting.
>
> This is all from memory. If you run into trouble, let us know  :-).
>
> Both excessive brightness and low recording level could be caused by excessive
> bias current. Recheck after you correctly adjust the bias.
>
> -- Ron
>
>
>
>
> From: Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk>
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:36 PM
> Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in bias oscillator LX-5
>
> Hi,
>
> I recently bought an LX-5 which had a low recording level with lot of distortion in both channels so I replaced both the transistors as well as all the orange caps and one 39 ohm fail safe resistor which was blown in the Bias Oscillator circuit.
>
> The good news is that it fixed the distortion problem but I have noticed that the recordings are more bright with emphasis on the high frequencies and less bass. While replacing the caps I noticed that the fail safe resistor R513 (82ohm) had been shorted. I also noticed that the recording level though has increased but still lower by 2 to 3 db than the source (3db lower in left channel and 2db in the right).
>
> The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm resistor in series to the erase head to measure the erase current but I don't really know how to do it or where to attach it but I have adjusted the frequency of the oscillator to 105 kHz.
>
> Could someone please help me with what could be causing the high frequency dominance as well as the lower recording levels and how to fix it?
>
> Thanks and best regards
> Nadeem
>
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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From mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk  Fri Aug 30 17:42:31 2013
From: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk (Mercedes Benz)
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 16:42:31 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange	caps	in
	biasoscillator LX-5
Message-ID: <COL401-EAS2917B89244AD827C7659F55B6350@phx.gbl>

Hi Ron,

Thanks for your help and suggestions. I don't have a signal tracer but I will definitely give tapping a try and hope that I am able to find the culprit. I will report back when I have done it.

Thanks and best regards
Nadeem


Sent from my killer Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Ron
Sent: 30/08/2013 15:48
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5


Such noises can be caused by a PCB hairline crack, bad solder joint, bad resistor,
cap, transistor or IC -- to mention just a few of the possibilities. I wish I could tell
you where the fault lies. Unfortunately, this type of fault is tough to diagnose but
easy to repair.

To isolate the source of the noise... If you have a signal tracer, you can
systematically trace from the right channel output, back through the signal path.
Otherwise, try gingerly tapping various areas of the PCB and/or components in
suspected locations. If you're lucky, you'll find this causes a change in the noise,
allowing you to zero in on the fault.

Good luck,

-- Ron








>________________________________
> From: Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk>
>To: NakTalk <naktalk at naks.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 3:46 PM
>Subject: RE: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps     in      biasoscillator LX-5
>
>
>
>I think I celebrated too early as the deck has now developed a new fault.
>
>Now there is a -20 to -30db crackling noise coming from the right channel while recording even without any source signal. It also doesn't make any difference which tape type is selected.
>
>Could it be one of the transistors which I bought really cheap from eBay or something else? Could someone please help me fix it?
>
>Thanks and best regards
>Nadeem
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Mercedes Benz
>Sent: 27/08/2013 21:07
>To: NakTalk
>Subject: RE: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>
>
>Hi Ron,
>
>Just to update that I un-shorted the 82k resister but it made the recording a bit distorted so I shorted it back again but managed to fix both the problems by adjusting the bias and level following the procedure in the manual. I am happy to report that the
 recordings are now wonderful on this deck.
>
>Thanks for your help I really appreciate it.
>
>Regards
>Nadeem
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Ron
>Sent: 27/08/2013 18:46
>To: Gennady Lyskin; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>
>
>
>Actually, both (depending on circuit design - I should have said, 'incorrect current'), but
>he mentioned a shorted series resistor.
>
>-- Ron
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>________________________________
>> From: Gennady Lyskin <g.p.lyskin at paradise.net.nz>
>>To: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>>Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 4:27 AM
>>Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>>
>>
>>
>>"Both excessive brightness and low recording level could be caused by excessive
>>bias current."
>>Did you mean recessive bias current?
>>
>>Gennady Lyskin
>> 
>>G e n n L a b
>>http://www.gennlab.com
>>info at gennlab.com
>>Tel: +64 21 238 3056
>>New Zealand
>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: Ron
>>>To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>>>Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 8:52 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>>>
>>>
>>>> The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm resistor in series to the erase head to measure the erase current but I don't really know how to do it...
>>>
>>>Do the following only if you are very adept with soldering in very tight spots
>>>without damaging anything:
>>>
>>>1. Desolder the hot lead (not the shield) from the erase head.
>>>2. Tack-solder a resistor lead to the head, where the wire was.
>>>3. Solder the wire previously connected to the head to the other resistor lead.
>>>4. Connect a VTVM (must have good response at well over 100KHz) across
>>>    the resistor, with VTVM probe to the wire side and VTVM ground to the
>>>    head side, making sure nothing is shorting.
>>>
>>>This is all from memory. If you run into trouble, let us know  :-).
>>>
>>>Both excessive brightness and low recording level could be caused by excessive
>>>bias current. Recheck after you correctly adjust the bias.
>>>
>>>-- Ron
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>________________________________
>>>> From: Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk>
>>>>To: naktalk at naks.com
>>>>Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:36 PM
>>>>Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in bias oscillator LX-5
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>I recently bought an LX-5 which had a low recording level with lot of distortion in both channels so I replaced both the transistors as well as all the orange caps and one 39 ohm fail safe resistor which was blown in the Bias Oscillator circuit.
>>>>
>>>>The good news is that it fixed the distortion problem but I have noticed that the recordings are more bright with emphasis on the high frequencies and less bass. While replacing the caps I noticed that the fail safe resistor R513 (82ohm) had been shorted. I
 also noticed that the recording level though has increased but still lower by 2 to 3 db than the source (3db lower in left channel and 2db in the right).
>>>>
>>>>The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm resistor in series to the erase head to measure the erase current but I don't really know how to do it or where to attach it but I have adjusted the frequency of the oscillator to 105 kHz.
>>>>
>>>>Could someone please help me with what could be causing the high frequency dominance as well as the lower recording levels and how to fix it?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks and best regards
>>>>Nadeem
>>>>
>>>>========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>>          Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
>>>>========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>>                        Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
>>>>Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>>>>========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
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From earthrite at gn.apc.org  Fri Aug 30 17:49:27 2013
From: earthrite at gn.apc.org (earthrite at gn.apc.org)
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 16:49:27 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Scots 670 service and diagnosuss 
In-Reply-To: <201308301027.r7UAQj2o031307@zxe.naks.com>
References: <201308301027.r7UAQj2o031307@zxe.naks.com>
Message-ID: <100BCC86-A069-435A-A484-E5D9B9FE58EB@gn.apc.org>


Hello Chaps and lady!

To any who recall my existence here hello hello.

Before Armageddon begins again

ah its been partially cancelled and after 4 years I can post again now  
Wouter has sorted it out

My 670 needs a service

Last serviced by B&W in '98

and now only one VU channel lights the right but it is dead to record  
and
play

The Left channel has no light but appears to play and record -

is it orange cap or some other well known development?

The transport works in all directions and speeds along with drift
control and the switches

Due to circumstances Im wondering if there is an lower price
alternative to B&W this time although I have used them twice or three
times in the past and admire them

as my Naktalk comes in via digest a personal email can be really
helpful to me if there are some recommendations

ian

I live in rural rural Scotland

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From n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl  Fri Aug 30 19:38:49 2013
From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl (Ziggo)
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 19:38:49 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps	in
	biasoscillator LX-5
In-Reply-To: <COL401-EAS3083D9E2DDBE1EE209D8581B6350@phx.gbl>
References: <COL401-EAS3083D9E2DDBE1EE209D8581B6350@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <822ED5CF-F80D-4F52-8EF6-382C9E294945@ziggo.nl>

Hi Nadeem,

If it was my deck i would replace all orange caps in the recording circuit. Crackling sound is mostly orange caps problems. Replace them with decent quality ones.

Best regards

Norman



Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

Op 30 aug. 2013 om 17:33 heeft Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk> het volgende geschreven:

> Hi Norman,
> 
> No it does not make any difference if Dolby is on or off. All my testing have been with Dolby off and still this noise appears after 5-10 minutes into the recording, play however is fine. There is no noise in the source and this noise also gets recorded onto tape. Hope this gives some clue.
> 
> Regards
> Nadeem
> 
> Sent from my killer  Windows Phone
> From: Ziggo
> Sent: 30/08/2013 11:39
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Does it make difference if you turn dolby on or off? The orange caps of the dolby circuit are also suspected
> 
> Norman
> 
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
> 
> Op 29 aug. 2013 om 23:40 heeft Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk> het volgende geschreven:
> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> Today I replaced the transistor in the bias oscillator circuit but it made no difference at all. There is still crackling noise in the right channel during recording even without any source signal. But one thing I have noticed that the noise only starts 5 to 10 minutes into recording but doesn't appear when the deck is cold. So there is something failing after getting warm. The deck plays well without any noise though.
>> 
>> Any help will be appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks & best regards
>> Nadeem
>> 
>> Sent from my Windows Phone
>> From: Mercedes Benz
>> Sent: 28/08/2013 23:01
>> To: NakTalk
>> Subject: RE: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>> 
>> I think I celebrated too early as the deck has now developed a new fault. 
>> 
>> Now there is a -20 to -30db crackling noise coming from the right channel while recording even without any source signal. It also doesn't make any difference which tape type is selected. 
>> 
>> Could it be one of the transistors which I bought really cheap from eBay or something else? Could someone please help me fix it?
>> 
>> Thanks and best regards
>> Nadeem
>> 
>> 
>> From: Mercedes Benz
>> Sent: 27/08/2013 21:07
>> To: NakTalk
>> Subject: RE: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>> 
>> Hi Ron,
>> 
>> Just to update that I un-shorted the 82k resister but it made the recording a bit distorted so I shorted it back again but managed to fix both the problems by adjusting the bias and level following the procedure in the manual. I am happy to report that the recordings are now wonderful on this deck.
>> 
>> Thanks for your help I really appreciate it.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Nadeem
>> 
>> From: Ron
>> Sent: 27/08/2013 18:46
>> To: Gennady Lyskin; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>> 
>> 
>> Actually, both (depending on circuit design - I should have said, 'incorrect current'), but 
>> he mentioned a shorted series resistor.
>> 
>> -- Ron
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Gennady Lyskin <g.p.lyskin at paradise.net.nz>
>> To: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
>> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 4:27 AM
>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>> 
>> "Both excessive brightness and low recording level could be caused by excessive 
>> bias current."
>> Did you mean recessive bias current?
>> Gennady Lyskin
>>  
>> G e n n L a b
>> http://www.gennlab.com
>> info at gennlab.com
>> Tel: +64 21 238 3056
>> New Zealand
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ron
>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 8:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>> 
>> > The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm resistor in series to the erase head to measure the erase current but I don't really know how to do it...
>> 
>> Do the following only if you are very adept with soldering in very tight spots 
>> without damaging anything: 
>> 
>> 1. Desolder the hot lead (not the shield) from the erase head.
>> 2. Tack-solder a resistor lead to the head, where the wire was. 
>> 3. Solder the wire previously connected to the head to the other resistor lead.
>> 4. Connect a VTVM (must have good response at well over 100KHz) across 
>>     the resistor, with VTVM probe to the wire side and VTVM ground to the 
>>     head side, making sure nothing is shorting. 
>> 
>> This is all from memory. If you run into trouble, let us know  :-). 
>> 
>> Both excessive brightness and low recording level could be caused by excessive 
>> bias current. Recheck after you correctly adjust the bias.
>> 
>> -- Ron
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk>
>> To: naktalk at naks.com 
>> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:36 PM
>> Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in bias oscillator LX-5
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I recently bought an LX-5 which had a low recording level with lot of distortion in both channels so I replaced both the transistors as well as all the orange caps and one 39 ohm fail safe resistor which was blown in the Bias Oscillator circuit.
>> 
>> The good news is that it fixed the distortion problem but I have noticed that the recordings are more bright with emphasis on the high frequencies and less bass. While replacing the caps I noticed that the fail safe resistor R513 (82ohm) had been shorted. I also noticed that the recording level though has increased but still lower by 2 to 3 db than the source (3db lower in left channel and 2db in the right).
>> 
>> The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm resistor in series to the erase head to measure the erase current but I don't really know how to do it or where to attach it but I have adjusted the frequency of the oscillator to 105 kHz.
>> 
>> Could someone please help me with what could be causing the high frequency dominance as well as the lower recording levels and how to fix it?
>> 
>> Thanks and best regards
>> Nadeem
>> 
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From tonynelson at georgeanelson.com  Fri Aug 30 21:24:28 2013
From: tonynelson at georgeanelson.com (Tony Nelson)
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 15:24:28 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in
	biasoscillator LX-5
In-Reply-To: <DUB404-EAS38654EEC9FC986656B3C7FEB6340@phx.gbl> (from
	mercedesbenz999@hotmail.co.uk on Thu Aug 29 17:40:17 2013)
References: <DUB404-EAS38654EEC9FC986656B3C7FEB6340@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1377890668.7907.0@master.lan>

On 13-08-29 17:40:17, Mercedes Benz wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Today I replaced the transistor in the bias oscillator circuit but it
> made no difference at all. There is still crackling noise in the 
> right channel during recording even without any source signal. But 
> one thing I have noticed that the noise only starts 5 to 10 minutes 
> into recording but doesn't appear when the deck is cold. So there is
> something failing after getting warm. The deck plays well without any
> noise though.
> 
> Any help will be appreciated.

Freeze spray.

-- 
____________________________________________________________________
TonyN.:'                       <mailto:tonynelson at georgeanelson.com>
      '                              <http://www.georgeanelson.com/>


From mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk  Fri Aug 30 23:05:22 2013
From: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk (Mercedes Benz)
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 22:05:22 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps	in
	biasoscillator LX-5
Message-ID: <BAY403-EAS216681715F09042E06079B4B6350@phx.gbl>

Hi Norman,

Thanks for your suggestion, I will see if I can replace all the orange caps in the recording circuit. I just finished replacing all the orange caps in the bias circuit, previously the deck wasn't even recording on Ex and SX tapes.

Best regards
Nadeem


Sent from my killer Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Ziggo
Sent: 30/08/2013 19:59
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5

Hi Nadeem,

If it was my deck i would replace all orange caps in the recording circuit. Crackling sound is mostly orange caps problems. Replace them with decent quality ones.

Best regards

Norman



Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

Op 30 aug. 2013 om 17:33 heeft Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk> het volgende geschreven:

> Hi Norman,
>
> No it does not make any difference if Dolby is on or off. All my testing have been with Dolby off and still this noise appears after 5-10 minutes into the recording, play however is fine. There is no noise in the source and this noise also gets recorded onto tape. Hope this gives some clue.
>
> Regards
> Nadeem
>
> Sent from my killer  Windows Phone
> From: Ziggo
> Sent: 30/08/2013 11:39
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>
> Hi,
>
> Does it make difference if you turn dolby on or off? The orange caps of the dolby circuit are also suspected
>
> Norman
>
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>
> Op 29 aug. 2013 om 23:40 heeft Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk> het volgende geschreven:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Today I replaced the transistor in the bias oscillator circuit but it made no difference at all. There is still crackling noise in the right channel during recording even without any source signal. But one thing I have noticed that the noise only starts 5 to 10 minutes into recording but doesn't appear when the deck is cold. So there is something failing after getting warm. The deck plays well without any noise though.
>>
>> Any help will be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks & best regards
>> Nadeem
>>
>> Sent from my Windows Phone
>> From: Mercedes Benz
>> Sent: 28/08/2013 23:01
>> To: NakTalk
>> Subject: RE: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>>
>> I think I celebrated too early as the deck has now developed a new fault.
>>
>> Now there is a -20 to -30db crackling noise coming from the right channel while recording even without any source signal. It also doesn't make any difference which tape type is selected.
>>
>> Could it be one of the transistors which I bought really cheap from eBay or something else? Could someone please help me fix it?
>>
>> Thanks and best regards
>> Nadeem
>>
>>
>> From: Mercedes Benz
>> Sent: 27/08/2013 21:07
>> To: NakTalk
>> Subject: RE: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>>
>> Hi Ron,
>>
>> Just to update that I un-shorted the 82k resister but it made the recording a bit distorted so I shorted it back again but managed to fix both the problems by adjusting the bias and level following the procedure in the manual. I am happy to report that the recordings are now wonderful on this deck.
>>
>> Thanks for your help I really appreciate it.
>>
>> Regards
>> Nadeem
>>
>> From: Ron
>> Sent: 27/08/2013 18:46
>> To: Gennady Lyskin; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>>
>>
>> Actually, both (depending on circuit design - I should have said, 'incorrect current'), but
>> he mentioned a shorted series resistor.
>>
>> -- Ron
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Gennady Lyskin <g.p.lyskin at paradise.net.nz>
>> To: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 4:27 AM
>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>>
>> "Both excessive brightness and low recording level could be caused by excessive
>> bias current."
>> Did you mean recessive bias current?
>> Gennady Lyskin
>>
>> G e n n L a b
>> http://www.gennlab.com
>> info at gennlab.com
>> Tel: +64 21 238 3056
>> New Zealand
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ron
>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 8:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>>
>> > The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm resistor in series to the erase head to measure the erase current but I don't really know how to do it...
>>
>> Do the following only if you are very adept with soldering in very tight spots
>> without damaging anything:
>>
>> 1. Desolder the hot lead (not the shield) from the erase head.
>> 2. Tack-solder a resistor lead to the head, where the wire was.
>> 3. Solder the wire previously connected to the head to the other resistor lead.
>> 4. Connect a VTVM (must have good response at well over 100KHz) across
>>     the resistor, with VTVM probe to the wire side and VTVM ground to the
>>     head side, making sure nothing is shorting.
>>
>> This is all from memory. If you run into trouble, let us know  :-).
>>
>> Both excessive brightness and low recording level could be caused by excessive
>> bias current. Recheck after you correctly adjust the bias.
>>
>> -- Ron
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk>
>> To: naktalk at naks.com
>> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:36 PM
>> Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in bias oscillator LX-5
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I recently bought an LX-5 which had a low recording level with lot of distortion in both channels so I replaced both the transistors as well as all the orange caps and one 39 ohm fail safe resistor which was blown in the Bias Oscillator circuit.
>>
>> The good news is that it fixed the distortion problem but I have noticed that the recordings are more bright with emphasis on the high frequencies and less bass. While replacing the caps I noticed that the fail safe resistor R513 (82ohm) had been shorted. I also noticed that the recording level though has increased but still lower by 2 to 3 db than the source (3db lower in left channel and 2db in the right).
>>
>> The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm resistor in series to the erase head to measure the erase current but I don't really know how to do it or where to attach it but I have adjusted the frequency of the oscillator to 105 kHz.
>>
>> Could someone please help me with what could be causing the high frequency dominance as well as the lower recording levels and how to fix it?
>>
>> Thanks and best regards
>> Nadeem
>>
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>           Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>                         Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
>> Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>
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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 30 23:34:15 2013
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 07:34:15 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps	in
	biasoscillator LX-5
In-Reply-To: <822ED5CF-F80D-4F52-8EF6-382C9E294945@ziggo.nl>
References: <COL401-EAS3083D9E2DDBE1EE209D8581B6350@phx.gbl>
	<822ED5CF-F80D-4F52-8EF6-382C9E294945@ziggo.nl>
Message-ID: <B7482BD3-2343-4E13-B1D1-81D0B2ACDE7E@yahoo.com>

The signal path goes through the Dolby circuit anyway even when Dolby is switched off. Replace all the orange caps - every single one. 

Best Regards, 
Bala Ganesh

On 31/08/2013, at 3:38 AM, Ziggo <n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl> wrote:

> Hi Nadeem,
> 
> If it was my deck i would replace all orange caps in the recording circuit. Crackling sound is mostly orange caps problems. Replace them with decent quality ones.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Norman
> 
> 
> 
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
> 
> Op 30 aug. 2013 om 17:33 heeft Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk> het volgende geschreven:
> 
>> Hi Norman,
>> 
>> No it does not make any difference if Dolby is on or off. All my testing have been with Dolby off and still this noise appears after 5-10 minutes into the recording, play however is fine. There is no noise in the source and this noise also gets recorded onto tape. Hope this gives some clue.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Nadeem
>> 
>> Sent from my killer  Windows Phone
>> From: Ziggo
>> Sent: 30/08/2013 11:39
>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Does it make difference if you turn dolby on or off? The orange caps of the dolby circuit are also suspected
>> 
>> Norman
>> 
>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>> 
>> Op 29 aug. 2013 om 23:40 heeft Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk> het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> Today I replaced the transistor in the bias oscillator circuit but it made no difference at all. There is still crackling noise in the right channel during recording even without any source signal. But one thing I have noticed that the noise only starts 5 to 10 minutes into recording but doesn't appear when the deck is cold. So there is something failing after getting warm. The deck plays well without any noise though.
>>> 
>>> Any help will be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks & best regards
>>> Nadeem
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Windows Phone
>>> From: Mercedes Benz
>>> Sent: 28/08/2013 23:01
>>> To: NakTalk
>>> Subject: RE: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>>> 
>>> I think I celebrated too early as the deck has now developed a new fault. 
>>> 
>>> Now there is a -20 to -30db crackling noise coming from the right channel while recording even without any source signal. It also doesn't make any difference which tape type is selected. 
>>> 
>>> Could it be one of the transistors which I bought really cheap from eBay or something else? Could someone please help me fix it?
>>> 
>>> Thanks and best regards
>>> Nadeem
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Mercedes Benz
>>> Sent: 27/08/2013 21:07
>>> To: NakTalk
>>> Subject: RE: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>>> 
>>> Hi Ron,
>>> 
>>> Just to update that I un-shorted the 82k resister but it made the recording a bit distorted so I shorted it back again but managed to fix both the problems by adjusting the bias and level following the procedure in the manual. I am happy to report that the recordings are now wonderful on this deck.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your help I really appreciate it.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Nadeem
>>> 
>>> From: Ron
>>> Sent: 27/08/2013 18:46
>>> To: Gennady Lyskin; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Actually, both (depending on circuit design - I should have said, 'incorrect current'), but 
>>> he mentioned a shorted series resistor.
>>> 
>>> -- Ron
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Gennady Lyskin <g.p.lyskin at paradise.net.nz>
>>> To: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
>>> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 4:27 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>>> 
>>> "Both excessive brightness and low recording level could be caused by excessive 
>>> bias current."
>>> Did you mean recessive bias current?
>>> Gennady Lyskin
>>>  
>>> G e n n L a b
>>> http://www.gennlab.com
>>> info at gennlab.com
>>> Tel: +64 21 238 3056
>>> New Zealand
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Ron
>>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>>> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 8:52 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>>> 
>>> > The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm resistor in series to the erase head to measure the erase current but I don't really know how to do it...
>>> 
>>> Do the following only if you are very adept with soldering in very tight spots 
>>> without damaging anything: 
>>> 
>>> 1. Desolder the hot lead (not the shield) from the erase head.
>>> 2. Tack-solder a resistor lead to the head, where the wire was. 
>>> 3. Solder the wire previously connected to the head to the other resistor lead.
>>> 4. Connect a VTVM (must have good response at well over 100KHz) across 
>>>     the resistor, with VTVM probe to the wire side and VTVM ground to the 
>>>     head side, making sure nothing is shorting. 
>>> 
>>> This is all from memory. If you run into trouble, let us know  :-). 
>>> 
>>> Both excessive brightness and low recording level could be caused by excessive 
>>> bias current. Recheck after you correctly adjust the bias.
>>> 
>>> -- Ron
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk>
>>> To: naktalk at naks.com 
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:36 PM
>>> Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in bias oscillator LX-5
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I recently bought an LX-5 which had a low recording level with lot of distortion in both channels so I replaced both the transistors as well as all the orange caps and one 39 ohm fail safe resistor which was blown in the Bias Oscillator circuit.
>>> 
>>> The good news is that it fixed the distortion problem but I have noticed that the recordings are more bright with emphasis on the high frequencies and less bass. While replacing the caps I noticed that the fail safe resistor R513 (82ohm) had been shorted. I also noticed that the recording level though has increased but still lower by 2 to 3 db than the source (3db lower in left channel and 2db in the right).
>>> 
>>> The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm resistor in series to the erase head to measure the erase current but I don't really know how to do it or where to attach it but I have adjusted the frequency of the oscillator to 105 kHz.
>>> 
>>> Could someone please help me with what could be causing the high frequency dominance as well as the lower recording levels and how to fix it?
>>> 
>>> Thanks and best regards
>>> Nadeem
>>> 
>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>           Also check out the wiki! http://www.naks.com/wiki
>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>                         Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
>>> Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>> 
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>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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From n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl  Sat Aug 31 01:04:58 2013
From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl (Ziggo)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 01:04:58 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps	in
	biasoscillator LX-5
In-Reply-To: <BAY403-EAS216681715F09042E06079B4B6350@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY403-EAS216681715F09042E06079B4B6350@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <DE8EE8DD-4203-4E4B-B1A3-ABFE61F6C3A3@ziggo.nl>

Hi Nadeem,

If you feel you are dealing with a failing component because of temperature there is something like cold spray . That spray cools down the component to  temperatures far below zero degrees and thats maybe a better way to detect the failing component. Otherwise, if you want a deck for operating without problems for many years it is a good idee to replace the orange caps. ( but that is my opinion ofcourse)

Best regards

Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

Op 30 aug. 2013 om 23:05 heeft Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk> het volgende geschreven:

> Hi Norman, 
> 
> Thanks for your suggestion, I will see if I can replace all the orange caps in the recording circuit. I just finished replacing all the orange caps in the bias circuit, previously the deck wasn't even recording on Ex and SX tapes.
> 
> Best regards
> Nadeem
> 
> 
> Sent from my killer Windows Phone
> From: Ziggo
> Sent: 30/08/2013 19:59
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
> 
> Hi Nadeem,
> 
> If it was my deck i would replace all orange caps in the recording circuit. Crackling sound is mostly orange caps problems. Replace them with decent quality ones.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Norman
> 
> 
> 
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
> 
> Op 30 aug. 2013 om 17:33 heeft Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk> het volgende geschreven:
> 
>> Hi Norman,
>> 
>> No it does not make any difference if Dolby is on or off. All my testing have been with Dolby off and still this noise appears after 5-10 minutes into the recording, play however is fine. There is no noise in the source and this noise also gets recorded onto tape. Hope this gives some clue.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Nadeem
>> 
>> Sent from my killer  Windows Phone
>> From: Ziggo
>> Sent: 30/08/2013 11:39
>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Does it make difference if you turn dolby on or off? The orange caps of the dolby circuit are also suspected
>> 
>> Norman
>> 
>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>> 
>> Op 29 aug. 2013 om 23:40 heeft Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk> het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> Today I replaced the transistor in the bias oscillator circuit but it made no difference at all. There is still crackling noise in the right channel during recording even without any source signal. But one thing I have noticed that the noise only starts 5 to 10 minutes into recording but doesn't appear when the deck is cold. So there is something failing after getting warm. The deck plays well without any noise though.
>>> 
>>> Any help will be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks & best regards
>>> Nadeem
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Windows Phone
>>> From: Mercedes Benz
>>> Sent: 28/08/2013 23:01
>>> To: NakTalk
>>> Subject: RE: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>>> 
>>> I think I celebrated too early as the deck has now developed a new fault. 
>>> 
>>> Now there is a -20 to -30db crackling noise coming from the right channel while recording even without any source signal. It also doesn't make any difference which tape type is selected. 
>>> 
>>> Could it be one of the transistors which I bought really cheap from eBay or something else? Could someone please help me fix it?
>>> 
>>> Thanks and best regards
>>> Nadeem
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Mercedes Benz
>>> Sent: 27/08/2013 21:07
>>> To: NakTalk
>>> Subject: RE: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>>> 
>>> Hi Ron,
>>> 
>>> Just to update that I un-shorted the 82k resister but it made the recording a bit distorted so I shorted it back again but managed to fix both the problems by adjusting the bias and level following the procedure in the manual. I am happy to report that the recordings are now wonderful on this deck.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your help I really appreciate it.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Nadeem
>>> 
>>> From: Ron
>>> Sent: 27/08/2013 18:46
>>> To: Gennady Lyskin; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Actually, both (depending on circuit design - I should have said, 'incorrect current'), but 
>>> he mentioned a shorted series resistor.
>>> 
>>> -- Ron
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Gennady Lyskin <g.p.lyskin at paradise.net.nz>
>>> To: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
>>> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 4:27 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>>> 
>>> "Both excessive brightness and low recording level could be caused by excessive 
>>> bias current."
>>> Did you mean recessive bias current?
>>> Gennady Lyskin
>>>  
>>> G e n n L a b
>>> http://www.gennlab.com
>>> info at gennlab.com
>>> Tel: +64 21 238 3056
>>> New Zealand
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Ron
>>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>>> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 8:52 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>>> 
>>> > The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm resistor in series to the erase head to measure the erase current but I don't really know how to do it...
>>> 
>>> Do the following only if you are very adept with soldering in very tight spots 
>>> without damaging anything: 
>>> 
>>> 1. Desolder the hot lead (not the shield) from the erase head.
>>> 2. Tack-solder a resistor lead to the head, where the wire was. 
>>> 3. Solder the wire previously connected to the head to the other resistor lead.
>>> 4. Connect a VTVM (must have good response at well over 100KHz) across 
>>>     the resistor, with VTVM probe to the wire side and VTVM ground to the 
>>>     head side, making sure nothing is shorting. 
>>> 
>>> This is all from memory. If you run into trouble, let us know  :-). 
>>> 
>>> Both excessive brightness and low recording level could be caused by excessive 
>>> bias current. Recheck after you correctly adjust the bias.
>>> 
>>> -- Ron
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk>
>>> To: naktalk at naks.com 
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:36 PM
>>> Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in bias oscillator LX-5
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I recently bought an LX-5 which had a low recording level with lot of distortion in both channels so I replaced both the transistors as well as all the orange caps and one 39 ohm fail safe resistor which was blown in the Bias Oscillator circuit.
>>> 
>>> The good news is that it fixed the distortion problem but I have noticed that the recordings are more bright with emphasis on the high frequencies and less bass. While replacing the caps I noticed that the fail safe resistor R513 (82ohm) had been shorted. I also noticed that the recording level though has increased but still lower by 2 to 3 db than the source (3db lower in left channel and 2db in the right).
>>> 
>>> The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm resistor in series to the erase head to measure the erase current but I don't really know how to do it or where to attach it but I have adjusted the frequency of the oscillator to 105 kHz.
>>> 
>>> Could someone please help me with what could be causing the high frequency dominance as well as the lower recording levels and how to fix it?
>>> 
>>> Thanks and best regards
>>> Nadeem
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From ba359 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 31 07:12:24 2013
From: ba359 at yahoo.com (B A)
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 22:12:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7A - replacing fuses
Message-ID: <1377925944.29780.YahooMailNeo@web162906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Hi all,
 
The 2.5 amp fuses in my CR-7A are blown.  They are the axial-lead type fuses.  Questions:
 
* Should I solder in fuse holders instead of new axial-lead fuses?  Seems like a good idea.  What fuse holders do you recommend?
 
* I figure I'll replace the 1 amp fuse at the same time.  So for these 2.5A and 1A fuses, do I need slow, normal, or fast blow?
 
Thanks.  Here are pictures of both sides of the board:
 
2.5A fuses:  http://imgur.com/hF5TT9v
Backside:  http://imgur.com/y0rMEkj



From the1andonlypieper at hotmail.com  Sat Aug 31 09:50:47 2013
From: the1andonlypieper at hotmail.com (pieter rodgers)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 09:50:47 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] nak lx3 wont record
In-Reply-To: <68B34A6F-2C54-43E9-A40A-C0DCE90B9AE8@ziggo.nl>
References: <DUB122-W21A0F06F54F49179C8DBACC64B0@phx.gbl>,
	<DUB122-W137D3333A69C63A5224131E3340@phx.gbl>,
	<CAMKzjOfpbouFZ5omSrQzJozW5FcbhUFsujc0yWtmoX9VY=8iXw@mail.gmail.com>,
	<68B34A6F-2C54-43E9-A40A-C0DCE90B9AE8@ziggo.nl>
Message-ID: <DUB122-W14B9AAA78D0A447C305C62E3360@phx.gbl>

...
thank you all for the information..I will stick my head in the machine , have a gander and let you know if I can solve the problem..
kind regards,
pieter rodgers

Subject: Re: [naktalk] nak lx3 wont record
From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 11:22:25 +0200
To: naktalk at naks.com

Hi,
It is also possible that hardened grease inside the zx9 transport is the reason. Then the pinch rollers and heads do not make good contact to the tape .
Best regards
Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
Op 29 aug. 2013 om 22:58 heeft brian pinkerton <pinkert6 at gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:

Wow same exact issue with my Pioneer CTF 1250. Someone told me to replace the pinch rollers.
On Aug 29, 2013 1:16 PM, "pieter rodgers" <the1andonlypieper at hotmail.com> wrote:




hi all out there and especially gerhard wartha..
first I hope klaas vaak finds a solution to his problem

I´m experiencing problems with my Nak ZX-9.. a few days ago it didn´t play tapes at all.. this problem has solved itself !!
now the sound drops on both channels after a couple of seconds playing time to almost fully disappear.. when I stop the tape and immediately press play again, the sound will start loud and then very fast go downhill.. time after time..
I´m not very technical.. any help would be appreciated, but I think I´m in need of help.. and seeing I live in Essen, Germany I was thinking of Gerhard...
greetings,

pieter rodgersessen, germany..

> From: frogfoot2005 at hotmail.com
> To: naktalk at naks.com

> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 01:41:37 +0200
> Subject: [naktalk] nak lx3 wont record
> 
> hi,
> 
> im having a problem with my lx3 , it doesnt record.
> Everything works mechanically but i doesnt get a signal.

> I geuss the rec bias osc isnt working anymore.
> Probebly been ask many times before but can anybody tel me which parts i have to exchange???
> i was thinking about the pp caps 136 & 236 and maybe the transistors 2sc2878.

> also the fade up and down doesnt work it stays in down , i think the startup position is up.
> All help is much appeciated.
> 
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From uraldurusu at ttmail.com  Sat Aug 31 09:00:14 2013
From: uraldurusu at ttmail.com (Ural Durusu)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 10:00:14 +0300
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7A - replacing fuses
In-Reply-To: <1377925944.29780.YahooMailNeo@web162906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1377925944.29780.YahooMailNeo@web162906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DB4D20B1FEE646CF9CE9DD696EDFFC9B@sonyVAIO>

Hi,
I also had the same problem with my CR7. I have replaced them with the fuse 
holders. I think I have replaced 3 fuses they were blown when I shorted the 
cassette back light lamp cable while replacing it with the green LED.
I don't know the type of them but they were tin plated.
Regards,
Ural

-----Özgün İleti----- 
From: B A
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 8:12 AM
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7A - replacing fuses

Hi all,

The 2.5 amp fuses in my CR-7A are blown.  They are the axial-lead type 
fuses.  Questions:

* Should I solder in fuse holders instead of new axial-lead fuses?  Seems 
like a good idea.  What fuse holders do you recommend?

* I figure I'll replace the 1 amp fuse at the same time.  So for these 2.5A 
and 1A fuses, do I need slow, normal, or fast blow?

Thanks.  Here are pictures of both sides of the board:

2.5A fuses:  http://imgur.com/hF5TT9v
Backside:  http://imgur.com/y0rMEkj

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From the1andonlypieper at hotmail.com  Sat Aug 31 13:43:16 2013
From: the1andonlypieper at hotmail.com (pieter rodgers)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:43:16 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] nak lx3 wont record
In-Reply-To: <DUB122-W14B9AAA78D0A447C305C62E3360@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB122-W21A0F06F54F49179C8DBACC64B0@phx.gbl>, ,
	<DUB122-W137D3333A69C63A5224131E3340@phx.gbl>, ,
	<CAMKzjOfpbouFZ5omSrQzJozW5FcbhUFsujc0yWtmoX9VY=8iXw@mail.gmail.com>,
	, <68B34A6F-2C54-43E9-A40A-C0DCE90B9AE8@ziggo.nl>,
	<DUB122-W14B9AAA78D0A447C305C62E3360@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <DUB122-W52D8FC501BA8A072329331E3360@phx.gbl>

??I have removed the cover of the tape-loader. I have felt if the pinch rollers are rolling and if they come up whilst pressing play and go down again when stop is pressed.. everything is in working order.. and up till now.. no problem with the sound ... ???in both situations the deck was ´cold´ , to answer Gerhard question (for instance right now the deck is playing the same tape as when I first had the problem two days ago and I started the tape right after switching on the deck..: I have come across a few people who recommend leaving the deck on, always.. is that recommended for a deck of 30 odd years of age???. if so, I will keep it on, if not, not...)I will however replace the rollers, they look as if a replacement is overdue.. or a good clean at first.. (but first to find a suitable cleaner, like lighter-fluid or so.)
best regards
pieter

From: the1andonlypieper at hotmail.com
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: RE: [naktalk] nak lx3 wont record
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 09:50:47 +0200




...
thank you all for the information..I will stick my head in the machine , have a gander and let you know if I can solve the problem..
kind regards,
pieter rodgers

Subject: Re: [naktalk] nak lx3 wont record
From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 11:22:25 +0200
To: naktalk at naks.com

Hi,
It is also possible that hardened grease inside the zx9 transport is the reason. Then the pinch rollers and heads do not make good contact to the tape .
Best regards
Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
Op 29 aug. 2013 om 22:58 heeft brian pinkerton <pinkert6 at gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:

Wow same exact issue with my Pioneer CTF 1250. Someone told me to replace the pinch rollers.
On Aug 29, 2013 1:16 PM, "pieter rodgers" <the1andonlypieper at hotmail.com> wrote:




hi all out there and especially gerhard wartha..
first I hope klaas vaak finds a solution to his problem

I´m experiencing problems with my Nak ZX-9.. a few days ago it didn´t play tapes at all.. this problem has solved itself !!
now the sound drops on both channels after a couple of seconds playing time to almost fully disappear.. when I stop the tape and immediately press play again, the sound will start loud and then very fast go downhill.. time after time..
I´m not very technical.. any help would be appreciated, but I think I´m in need of help.. and seeing I live in Essen, Germany I was thinking of Gerhard...
greetings,

pieter rodgersessen, germany..

> From: frogfoot2005 at hotmail.com
> To: naktalk at naks.com

> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 01:41:37 +0200
> Subject: [naktalk] nak lx3 wont record
> 
> hi,
> 
> im having a problem with my lx3 , it doesnt record.
> Everything works mechanically but i doesnt get a signal.

> I geuss the rec bias osc isnt working anymore.
> Probebly been ask many times before but can anybody tel me which parts i have to exchange???
> i was thinking about the pp caps 136 & 236 and maybe the transistors 2sc2878.

> also the fade up and down doesnt work it stays in down , i think the startup position is up.
> All help is much appeciated.
> 
> greetings 		 	   		  
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From mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk  Sat Aug 31 13:21:35 2013
From: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk (Mercedes Benz)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 12:21:35 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps	in
	biasoscillator LX-5
Message-ID: <COL401-EAS908A451099613BEB653AFDB6360@phx.gbl>

Thanks Ron, Norman and Bala for your help, I will replace all the orange caps as soon as I can source them cheaply in the UK. When I replaced the caps in the bias circuit I couldn't find all the parts in UK so had to order from digikey in US who charged me more for postage than the parts themselves and not to mention the import tax on top.

Thanks once again and I will report back once the deck is fixed.

Best regards
Nadeem

Sent from my killer Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Ziggo
Sent: 31/08/2013 00:46
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5

Hi Nadeem,

If you feel you are dealing with a failing component because of temperature there is something like cold spray . That spray cools down the component to  temperatures far below zero degrees and thats maybe a better way to detect the failing component. Otherwise, if you want a deck for operating without problems for many years it is a good idee to replace the orange caps. ( but that is my opinion ofcourse)

Best regards

Norman

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Op 30 aug. 2013 om 23:05 heeft Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk> het volgende geschreven:

> Hi Norman,
>
> Thanks for your suggestion, I will see if I can replace all the orange caps in the recording circuit. I just finished replacing all the orange caps in the bias circuit, previously the deck wasn't even recording on Ex and SX tapes.
>
> Best regards
> Nadeem
>
>
> Sent from my killer Windows Phone
> From: Ziggo
> Sent: 30/08/2013 19:59
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>
> Hi Nadeem,
>
> If it was my deck i would replace all orange caps in the recording circuit. Crackling sound is mostly orange caps problems. Replace them with decent quality ones.
>
> Best regards
>
> Norman
>
>
>
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>
> Op 30 aug. 2013 om 17:33 heeft Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk> het volgende geschreven:
>
>> Hi Norman,
>>
>> No it does not make any difference if Dolby is on or off. All my testing have been with Dolby off and still this noise appears after 5-10 minutes into the recording, play however is fine. There is no noise in the source and this noise also gets recorded onto tape. Hope this gives some clue.
>>
>> Regards
>> Nadeem
>>
>> Sent from my killer  Windows Phone
>> From: Ziggo
>> Sent: 30/08/2013 11:39
>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Does it make difference if you turn dolby on or off? The orange caps of the dolby circuit are also suspected
>>
>> Norman
>>
>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>>
>> Op 29 aug. 2013 om 23:40 heeft Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk> het volgende geschreven:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> Today I replaced the transistor in the bias oscillator circuit but it made no difference at all. There is still crackling noise in the right channel during recording even without any source signal. But one thing I have noticed that the noise only starts 5 to 10 minutes into recording but doesn't appear when the deck is cold. So there is something failing after getting warm. The deck plays well without any noise though.
>>>
>>> Any help will be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks & best regards
>>> Nadeem
>>>
>>> Sent from my Windows Phone
>>> From: Mercedes Benz
>>> Sent: 28/08/2013 23:01
>>> To: NakTalk
>>> Subject: RE: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>>>
>>> I think I celebrated too early as the deck has now developed a new fault.
>>>
>>> Now there is a -20 to -30db crackling noise coming from the right channel while recording even without any source signal. It also doesn't make any difference which tape type is selected.
>>>
>>> Could it be one of the transistors which I bought really cheap from eBay or something else? Could someone please help me fix it?
>>>
>>> Thanks and best regards
>>> Nadeem
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Mercedes Benz
>>> Sent: 27/08/2013 21:07
>>> To: NakTalk
>>> Subject: RE: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>>>
>>> Hi Ron,
>>>
>>> Just to update that I un-shorted the 82k resister but it made the recording a bit distorted so I shorted it back again but managed to fix both the problems by adjusting the bias and level following the procedure in the manual. I am happy to report that the recordings are now wonderful on this deck.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help I really appreciate it.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Nadeem
>>>
>>> From: Ron
>>> Sent: 27/08/2013 18:46
>>> To: Gennady Lyskin; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>>>
>>>
>>> Actually, both (depending on circuit design - I should have said, 'incorrect current'), but
>>> he mentioned a shorted series resistor.
>>>
>>> -- Ron
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gennady Lyskin <g.p.lyskin at paradise.net.nz>
>>> To: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 4:27 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>>>
>>> "Both excessive brightness and low recording level could be caused by excessive
>>> bias current."
>>> Did you mean recessive bias current?
>>> Gennady Lyskin
>>>
>>> G e n n L a b
>>> http://www.gennlab.com
>>> info at gennlab.com
>>> Tel: +64 21 238 3056
>>> New Zealand
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Ron
>>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>>> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 8:52 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in biasoscillator LX-5
>>>
>>> > The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm resistor in series to the erase head to measure the erase current but I don't really know how to do it...
>>>
>>> Do the following only if you are very adept with soldering in very tight spots
>>> without damaging anything:
>>>
>>> 1. Desolder the hot lead (not the shield) from the erase head.
>>> 2. Tack-solder a resistor lead to the head, where the wire was.
>>> 3. Solder the wire previously connected to the head to the other resistor lead.
>>> 4. Connect a VTVM (must have good response at well over 100KHz) across
>>>     the resistor, with VTVM probe to the wire side and VTVM ground to the
>>>     head side, making sure nothing is shorting.
>>>
>>> This is all from memory. If you run into trouble, let us know  :-).
>>>
>>> Both excessive brightness and low recording level could be caused by excessive
>>> bias current. Recheck after you correctly adjust the bias.
>>>
>>> -- Ron
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk>
>>> To: naktalk at naks.com
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:36 PM
>>> Subject: [naktalk] Having problems after replacing orange caps in bias oscillator LX-5
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I recently bought an LX-5 which had a low recording level with lot of distortion in both channels so I replaced both the transistors as well as all the orange caps and one 39 ohm fail safe resistor which was blown in the Bias Oscillator circuit.
>>>
>>> The good news is that it fixed the distortion problem but I have noticed that the recordings are more bright with emphasis on the high frequencies and less bass. While replacing the caps I noticed that the fail safe resistor R513 (82ohm) had been shorted. I also noticed that the recording level though has increased but still lower by 2 to 3 db than the source (3db lower in left channel and 2db in the right).
>>>
>>> The service manual suggests to attach 0.1ohm resistor in series to the erase head to measure the erase current but I don't really know how to do it or where to attach it but I have adjusted the frequency of the oscillator to 105 kHz.
>>>
>>> Could someone please help me with what could be causing the high frequency dominance as well as the lower recording levels and how to fix it?
>>>
>>> Thanks and best regards
>>> Nadeem
>>>
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From willy at willyhermannservices.com  Sat Aug 31 17:57:30 2013
From: willy at willyhermannservices.com (Willy Hermann)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 08:57:30 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7A - replacing fuses
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If you can find the correct snap-in style fuse holder it would be a nice
upgrade.  Beware - usually those fuses blow because of some other problem
with the unit.  I generally find a shorted capacitor or two in one of the
power supply circuits.
All three fuses are fast blow.
Willy


On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 10:12 PM, B A <ba359 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> The 2.5 amp fuses in my CR-7A are blown.  They are the axial-lead type
> fuses.  Questions:
>
> * Should I solder in fuse holders instead of new axial-lead fuses?  Seems
> like a good idea.  What fuse holders do you recommend?
>
> * I figure I'll replace the 1 amp fuse at the same time.  So for these
> 2.5A and 1A fuses, do I need slow, normal, or fast blow?
>
> Thanks.  Here are pictures of both sides of the board:
>
> 2.5A fuses:  http://imgur.com/hF5TT9v
> Backside:  http://imgur.com/y0rMEkj
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From: daniel.botelho at gmail.com (daniel.botelho at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 11:32:16 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] nak lx3 wont record
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From ba359 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 31 18:53:31 2013
From: ba359 at yahoo.com (B A)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 09:53:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7A - replacing fuses
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Thanks.  I believe I made the same mistake Ural posted earlier...I shorted something when replacing the bulb in the cassette compartment.  The unit was working fine prior to that.
 
Would these fuse holders work?  My local Radio Shack doesn't have much.  http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=A0AD9A9uYPZ%2f5Y96FqMyAQ%3d%3d
 
 

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 From: Willy Hermann <willy at willyhermannservices.com>
To: B A <ba359 at yahoo.com>; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-7A - replacing fuses
  


If you can find the correct snap-in style fuse holder it would be a nice upgrade.  Beware - usually those fuses blow because of some other problem with the unit.  I generally find a shorted capacitor or two in one of the power supply circuits. 
All three fuses are fast blow.
Willy



On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 10:12 PM, B A <ba359 at yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi all,
> 
>The 2.5 amp fuses in my CR-7A are blown.  They are the axial-lead type fuses.  Questions:
> 
>* Should I solder in fuse holders instead of new axial-lead fuses?  Seems like a good idea.  What fuse holders do you recommend?
> 
>* I figure I'll replace the 1 amp fuse at the same time.  So for these 2.5A and 1A fuses, do I need slow, normal, or fast blow?
> 
>Thanks.  Here are pictures of both sides of the board:
> 
>2.5A fuses:  http://imgur.com/hF5TT9v
>Backside:  http://imgur.com/y0rMEkj
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From jmlevitz at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 31 23:31:18 2013
From: jmlevitz at yahoo.com (Jayson Levitz)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:31:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] nak lx3 wont record
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Here we go again.  The only substance you should use to clean pinch rollers, tape heads, capstans, tape guides, rollers, etc. is S-721 from American Recorder Technologies. It is a professional cleaning fluid meant specifically for this purpose.  No other liquid should be used, especially alcohol or brake cleaner.

You can contact them at 800-777-9580.  Their website is americanrecorder.com

Jayson



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To: naktalk at naks.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [naktalk] nak lx3 wont record
 


Sounds like the pinch rollers for sure. I had a similar issue with one of my teac tape decks.

Try to find some rubber rejuvenator fluid...I'm betting that your pinch rollers might have a coating of tape over the years of use. they tend to get hard over time and slip. When you say that the sound plays fine, but then deteriorate after a few seconds, try to look at the tape after the sound degrades. I'd be willing to bet that it may look crinkly as the tape might have slipped from the pinch roller and capstan

Definitely go over the pinch rollers with either rubber rejuvenator. (not rubbing alcohol as it can dry out the rubber.)

If you can't find any, I heard that brake cleaner is a suitable replacement...maybe someone can confirm this?

Dan

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From: pieter rodgers
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 08:08
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
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Subject: RE: [naktalk] nak lx3 wont record 

 
??
I have removed the cover of the tape-loader. I have felt if the pinch rollers are rolling and if they come up whilst pressing play and go down again when stop is pressed.. everything is in working order.. and up till now.. no problem with the sound ... ???
in both situations the deck was ´cold´ , to answer Gerhard question (for instance right now the deck is playing the same tape as when I first had the problem two days ago and I started the tape right after switching on the deck..: I have come across a few people who recommend leaving the deck on, always.. is that recommended for a deck of 30 odd years of age???. if so, I will keep it on, if not, not...)
I will however replace the rollers, they look as if a replacement is overdue.. or a good clean at first.. (but first to find a suitable cleaner, like lighter-fluid or so.)

best regards

pieter



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To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: RE: [naktalk] nak lx3 wont record
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 09:50:47 +0200

 
...

thank you all for the information..
I will stick my head in the machine , have a gander and let you know if I can solve the problem..

kind regards,

pieter rodgers



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Subject: Re: [naktalk] nak lx3 wont record
From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 11:22:25 +0200
To: naktalk at naks.com


Hi,

It is also possible that hardened grease inside the zx9 transport is the reason. Then the pinch rollers and heads do not make good contact to the tape .

Best regards

Norman

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Op 29 aug. 2013 om 22:58 heeft brian pinkerton <pinkert6 at gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:


Wow same exact issue with my Pioneer CTF 1250. Someone told me to replace the pinch rollers.
>On Aug 29, 2013 1:16 PM, "pieter rodgers" <the1andonlypieper at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>hi all out there and especially gerhard wartha..
>>
>>
>>first I hope klaas vaak finds a solution to his problem
>>
>>
>>
>>I´m experiencing problems with my Nak ZX-9.. a few days ago it didn´t play tapes at all.. this problem has solved itself !!
>>now the sound drops on both channels after a couple of seconds playing time to almost fully disappear.. when I stop the tape and immediately press play again, the sound will start loud and then very fast go downhill.. time after time..
>>I´m not very technical.. any help would be appreciated, but I think I´m in need of help.. and seeing I live in Essen, Germany I was thinking of Gerhard...
>>
>>
>>greetings,
>>
>>
>>pieter rodgers
>>essen, germany..
>>
>>
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>>> To: naktalk at naks.com
>>> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 01:41:37 +0200
>>> Subject: [naktalk] nak lx3 wont record
>>> 
>>> hi,
>>> 
>>> im having a problem with my lx3 , it doesnt record.
>>> Everything works mechanically but i doesnt get a signal.
>>> I geuss the rec bias osc isnt working anymore.
>>> Probebly been ask many times before but can anybody tel me which parts i have to exchange???
>>> i was thinking about the pp caps 136 & 236 and maybe the transistors 2sc2878.
>>> also the fade up and down doesnt work it stays in down , i think the startup position is up.
>>> All help is much appeciated.
>>> 
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From mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk  Tue Dec  3 13:11:43 2013
From: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk (Mercedes Benz)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 12:11:43 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] RE: LX-5 problem
Message-ID: <SNT404-EAS1050E72F80BF76FB1DFF481B6D50@phx.gbl>

Hi Perry,

I have now made the measurements you asked me to as follows:

1. IC301 Pin 8 = +12.1v
2. D101, D102 base voltage remains constant +12.1v in both record and play modes does not flip.
3. Voltage remains constant -11.5v at LP62 does not flip.

However, I have observed that Q504, which is right next to LP62, has always got -11.5v on the emitter even though there is +12.1v at the collector and +11.8v at the base. Could this be the culprit? I have ordered a new one just in case.

Your thoughts please?

Best regards
Nadeem

Sent from my killer Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Perry Esposito (Generation - 6)
Sent: 30/11/2013 13:53
To: Mercedes Benz
Subject: Re: LX-5 problem

Just to check do you have on the Main board:
+12v on pin 8 of ic301?
Does the "not in record" line flip from -12v in record to +12v in play at the base of D101 or D201?
Does point LP62 from the PS board flip from +12v in record to -11.5 in stop ?

Sent from Perry Esposito via iPhone

On Nov 28, 2013, at 11:31 AM, "Mercedes Benz" <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk<mailto:mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk>> wrote:

Thanks Perry, I will check that but I am getting the +12v on the power board just not on the bias board.

Regards
Nadeem

Sent from my killer Windows Phone
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From: Perry Esposito (Generation - 6)
Sent: 28/11/2013 13:53
To: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk<mailto:mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk>
Subject: LX-5 problem

Look at the output of the +12v voltage regulator, they commonly fail. I will look up the part number and get back to you.

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From ronami at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  3 18:42:06 2013
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 09:42:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] RE: LX-5 problem
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If you have +11.8V on a base and -11.5V on an emitter of an NPN transistor, it's 
blown. To be specific: the base-emitter junction is open. 

However, before replacing it, do find out what caused the fault. Otherwise, you 
risk blowing the new transistor.

Good luck, 

-- Ron
 





On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 7:33 AM, Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
 
Hi Perry,
>
>I have now made the measurements you asked me to as follows:
>
>1. IC301 Pin 8 = +12.1v
>2. D101, D102 base voltage remains constant +12.1v in both record and play modes does not flip.
>3. Voltage remains constant -11.5v at LP62 does not flip.
>
>However, I have observed that Q504, which is right next to LP62, has always got -11.5v on the emitter even though there is +12.1v at the collector and +11.8v at the base. Could this be the culprit? I have ordered a new one just in case.
>
>Your thoughts please?
>
>Best regards
>Nadeem
>
>Sent from my killer Windows Phone
>
>________________________________
> From: Perry Esposito (Generation - 6)
>Sent: 30/11/2013 13:53
>To: Mercedes Benz
>Subject: Re: LX-5 problem
>
>
>Just to check do you have on the Main board:
>+12v on pin 8 of ic301?
>Does the "not in record" line flip from -12v in record to +12v in play at the base of D101 or D201?
>Does point LP62 from the PS board flip from +12v in record to -11.5 in stop ?
>
>Sent from Perry Esposito via iPhone
>
>On Nov 28, 2013, at 11:31 AM, "Mercedes Benz" <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>Thanks Perry, I will check that but I am getting the +12v on the power board just not on the bias board.
>>
>>Regards
>>Nadeem
>>
>>Sent from my killer Windows Phone
>>
>>________________________________
>> From: Perry Esposito (Generation - 6)
>>Sent: 28/11/2013 13:53
>>To: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk
>>Subject: LX-5 problem
>>
>>
>>Look at the output of the +12v voltage regulator, they commonly fail. I will look up the part number and get back to you.
>>
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From mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk  Tue Dec  3 19:55:18 2013
From: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk (Mercedes Benz)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 18:55:18 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] RE: LX-5 problem
Message-ID: <BLU406-EAS32607DE86122A96573A81B8B6D50@phx.gbl>

Thanks Ron, I will check it.

Regards
Nadeem

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From: Ron
Sent: 03/12/2013 18:21
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE: LX-5 problem

If you have +11.8V on a base and -11.5V on an emitter of an NPN transistor, it's
blown. To be specific: the base-emitter junction is open.

However, before replacing it, do find out what caused the fault. Otherwise, you
risk blowing the new transistor.

Good luck,

-- Ron






On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 7:33 AM, Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Hi Perry,
>
>I have now made the measurements you asked me to as follows:
>
>1. IC301 Pin 8 = +12.1v
>2. D101, D102 base voltage remains constant +12.1v in both record and play modes does not flip.
>3. Voltage remains constant -11.5v at LP62 does not flip.
>
>However, I have observed that Q504, which is right next to LP62, has always got -11.5v on the emitter even though there is +12.1v at the collector and +11.8v at the base. Could this be the culprit? I have ordered a new one just in case.
>
>Your thoughts please?
>
>Best regards
>Nadeem
>
>Sent from my killer Windows Phone
>
>________________________________
> From: Perry Esposito (Generation - 6)
>Sent: 30/11/2013 13:53
>To: Mercedes Benz
>Subject: Re: LX-5 problem
>
>
>Just to check do you have on the Main board:
>+12v on pin 8 of ic301?
>Does the "not in record" line flip from -12v in record to +12v in play at the base of D101 or D201?
>Does point LP62 from the PS board flip from +12v in record to -11.5 in stop ?
>
>Sent from Perry Esposito via iPhone
>
>On Nov 28, 2013, at 11:31 AM, "Mercedes Benz" <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>Thanks Perry, I will check that but I am getting the +12v on the power board just not on the bias board.
>>
>>Regards
>>Nadeem
>>
>>Sent from my killer Windows Phone
>>
>>________________________________
>> From: Perry Esposito (Generation - 6)
>>Sent: 28/11/2013 13:53
>>To: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk
>>Subject: LX-5 problem
>>
>>
>>Look at the output of the +12v voltage regulator, they commonly fail. I will look up the part number and get back to you.
>>
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From perry.nak at comcast.net  Wed Dec  4 15:06:51 2013
From: perry.nak at comcast.net (Perry Esposito)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 09:06:51 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] LX-5 problem
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I would suspect that the transistor is faulty, just as Ron said. Naturally, with those voltages, the base value should cause a switch of current flow and voltage change from the collector to the emitter. I will look at the circuit again when I am at my bench again. Transistors are cheap, hope you ordered 2!

Sent from Perry Esposito via iPhone


From mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk  Wed Dec  4 16:54:14 2013
From: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk (Mercedes Benz)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 15:54:14 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] RE: LX-5 problem
Message-ID: <COL402-EAS134972BCB125E30FD906764B6D40@phx.gbl>

Replaced the transistor which fixed the voltage flipping from -11.5 to +12 on both LP62 and the two diodes but the original fault of noise in the right channel still remains.

Have been testing the Dolby board and noticed different voltages on ICs 202 & 204 -ve and +ve pins of ONLY the right channel. I have -5v on both the front pins of ic204 and -5v & +1.5v on the front pins of ic202.

Just wondering now that the faulty transistor has been replaced, could this noise (which shows on the right meter in play and record) be from the orange caps in the Dolby circuit?

Regards
Nadeem

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Sent: 04/12/2013 14:06
To: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk
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Subject: LX-5 problem

I would suspect that the transistor is faulty, just as Ron said. Naturally, with those voltages, the base value should cause a switch of current flow and voltage change from the collector to the emitter. I will look at the circuit again when I am at my bench again. Transistors are cheap, hope you ordered 2!

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From bglosi at tilkoblet.net  Thu Dec  5 01:10:46 2013
From: bglosi at tilkoblet.net (Birger Glosimot)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 01:10:46 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] CR-5 and Cassette Deck 1 problems
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Neither my CR-5, nor my Cassette Deck 1 will react to the commands. 

I have changed the belt for the capstans on the CR-5. The capstans were turning before also, but just in case. Also Cassette Deck 1 has capstans that functions.

 

For instance if I press play or any other command that should result in tape transport, on the CR-5 I can hear a short swirling noise and can see that the knurled brass end on the reel motor starts to spin, but stops without any movement to the reel hubs. I have not looked as close as this on the Cassette Deck 1, but have a feeling it is the same problem.

 

Is this an idler wheel problem or something else?

 

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From n.van.wijnen at gmail.com  Thu Dec  5 09:23:38 2013
From: n.van.wijnen at gmail.com (Norman van Wijnen)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 09:23:38 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] CR-5 and Cassette Deck 1 problems
In-Reply-To: <8F4D4C651FCD45E2A88181D4ACE62EC2@BirgerPC>
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Hi,

Maybe you have a frozen command motor inside the transport mechanism.
It is possible to take it apart and rebuild that motor .

Best regards

Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

> Op 5 dec. 2013 om 01:10 heeft "Birger Glosimot" <bglosi at tilkoblet.net> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Neither my CR-5, nor my Cassette Deck 1 will react to the commands.
> I have changed the belt for the capstans on the CR-5. The capstans were turning before also, but just in case. Also Cassette Deck 1 has capstans that functions.
>  
> For instance if I press play or any other command that should result in tape transport, on the CR-5 I can hear a short swirling noise and can see that the knurled brass end on the reel motor starts to spin, but stops without any movement to the reel hubs. I have not looked as close as this on the Cassette Deck 1, but have a feeling it is the same problem.
>  
> Is this an idler wheel problem or something else?
>  
> Regards
> Birger (in Norway)
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From mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk  Thu Dec  5 11:35:07 2013
From: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk (Mercedes Benz)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 10:35:07 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] CR-5 and Cassette Deck 1 problems
Message-ID: <SNT404-EAS166D915DB4BC02A05285AA4B6D70@phx.gbl>

Hi Birger,

As Norman suggested, it could be the jammed control motor. Try to nudge the white control gear with a pencil while pressing a command button and see if it works. You will have to take the top cover off and the control gear is the one which has three leaf switches running on it. If it works then you will need to service the control motor. Good luck.

Regards
Nadeem

Sent from my killer Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Birger Glosimot
Sent: 05/12/2013 08:10
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: [naktalk] CR-5 and Cassette Deck 1 problems

Neither my CR-5, nor my Cassette Deck 1 will react to the commands.

I have changed the belt for the capstans on the CR-5. The capstans were turning before also, but just in case. Also Cassette Deck 1 has capstans that functions.



For instance if I press play or any other command that should result in tape transport, on the CR-5 I can hear a short swirling noise and can see that the knurled brass end on the reel motor starts to spin, but stops without any movement to the reel hubs. I have not looked as close as this on the Cassette Deck 1, but have a feeling it is the same problem.



Is this an idler wheel problem or something else?



Regards

Birger (in Norway)

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From perry.nak at comcast.net  Thu Dec  5 14:45:09 2013
From: perry.nak at comcast.net (Perry Esposito)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 08:45:09 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] LX-5 problem
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Glad we got that solved, good for you! The - &+ ve pins of the matching chips for the L & R channels should match. Track down that first. I will check my LX-5 for those voltages. Could be another transistor problem, as the +ve should not be a negative value, i would suspect. But yes, the noise could also be the 4700pF orange caps in the Dolby circuit, but that would not cause the ve mismatch issue.

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From bglosi at tilkoblet.net  Thu Dec  5 09:57:43 2013
From: bglosi at tilkoblet.net (Birger Glosimot)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 09:57:43 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] CR-5 and Cassette Deck 1 problems
In-Reply-To: <39C3E8CC-67DF-4CDE-969C-2A9FDAAA0C88@gmail.com>
References: <BAY406-EAS865E4458248AD93BB9540FB6E90@phx.gbl><8F4D4C651FCD45E2A88181D4ACE62EC2@BirgerPC>
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Message-ID: <BB692B476C0644D7B00D4B50D0ACD9D5@BirgerPC>

How do I determine if it is the command motor?

And also where do I get a service manual for the CR-5. It is not on Hifiengine. Are there any other Nakamichi decks with the same transport? 

Regards

Birger
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Norman van Wijnen 
  To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
  Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:23 AM
  Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-5 and Cassette Deck 1 problems


  Hi,


  Maybe you have a frozen command motor inside the transport mechanism.
  It is possible to take it apart and rebuild that motor .


  Best regards


  Norman

  Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

  Op 5 dec. 2013 om 01:10 heeft "Birger Glosimot" <bglosi at tilkoblet.net> het volgende geschreven:


    Neither my CR-5, nor my Cassette Deck 1 will react to the commands. 

    I have changed the belt for the capstans on the CR-5. The capstans were turning before also, but just in case. Also Cassette Deck 1 has capstans that functions.



    For instance if I press play or any other command that should result in tape transport, on the CR-5 I can hear a short swirling noise and can see that the knurled brass end on the reel motor starts to spin, but stops without any movement to the reel hubs. I have not looked as close as this on the Cassette Deck 1, but have a feeling it is the same problem.



    Is this an idler wheel problem or something else?



    Regards

    Birger (in Norway)


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From bglosi at tilkoblet.net  Thu Dec  5 14:31:54 2013
From: bglosi at tilkoblet.net (Birger Glosimot)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 14:31:54 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] CR-5 and Cassette Deck 1 problems
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Ok. Seems it is the control motor, at least on the CR-5 that is on my dining room table :-) for service now.

How do I go about servicing that motor?

Regards

Birger
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mercedes Benz 
  To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
  Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:35 AM
  Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-5 and Cassette Deck 1 problems


  Hi Birger,

  As Norman suggested, it could be the jammed control motor. Try to nudge the white control gear with a pencil while pressing a command button and see if it works. You will have to take the top cover off and the control gear is the one which has three leaf switches running on it. If it works then you will need to service the control motor. Good luck.

  Regards
  Nadeem

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  To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
  Subject: [naktalk] CR-5 and Cassette Deck 1 problems


  Neither my CR-5, nor my Cassette Deck 1 will react to the commands. 

  I have changed the belt for the capstans on the CR-5. The capstans were turning before also, but just in case. Also Cassette Deck 1 has capstans that functions.



  For instance if I press play or any other command that should result in tape transport, on the CR-5 I can hear a short swirling noise and can see that the knurled brass end on the reel motor starts to spin, but stops without any movement to the reel hubs. I have not looked as close as this on the Cassette Deck 1, but have a feeling it is the same problem.



  Is this an idler wheel problem or something else?



  Regards

  Birger (in Norway)




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From n.van.wijnen at gmail.com  Thu Dec  5 18:12:21 2013
From: n.van.wijnen at gmail.com (Norman van Wijnen)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 18:12:21 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] CR-5 and Cassette Deck 1 problems
In-Reply-To: <8EE010F89E9B460AA1215AEDA420A8F2@BirgerPC>
References: <SNT404-EAS166D915DB4BC02A05285AA4B6D70@phx.gbl>
	<8EE010F89E9B460AA1215AEDA420A8F2@BirgerPC>
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Hi,
Maybe you can send me a message offline. Maybe i have some pictures for you.

Best regards 

Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

> Op 5 dec. 2013 om 14:31 heeft "Birger Glosimot" <bglosi at tilkoblet.net> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Ok. Seems it is the control motor, at least on the CR-5 that is on my dining room table :-) for service now.
>  
> How do I go about servicing that motor?
>  
> Regards
>  
> Birger
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mercedes Benz
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:35 AM
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-5 and Cassette Deck 1 problems
> 
> Hi Birger,
> 
> As Norman suggested, it could be the jammed control motor. Try to nudge the white control gear with a pencil while pressing a command button and see if it works. You will have to take the top cover off and the control gear is the one which has three leaf switches running on it. If it works then you will need to service the control motor. Good luck.
> 
> Regards
> Nadeem
> 
> Sent from my killer Windows Phone
> From: Birger Glosimot
> Sent: 05/12/2013 08:10
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: [naktalk] CR-5 and Cassette Deck 1 problems
> 
> Neither my CR-5, nor my Cassette Deck 1 will react to the commands.
> I have changed the belt for the capstans on the CR-5. The capstans were turning before also, but just in case. Also Cassette Deck 1 has capstans that functions.
>  
> For instance if I press play or any other command that should result in tape transport, on the CR-5 I can hear a short swirling noise and can see that the knurled brass end on the reel motor starts to spin, but stops without any movement to the reel hubs. I have not looked as close as this on the Cassette Deck 1, but have a feeling it is the same problem.
>  
> Is this an idler wheel problem or something else?
>  
> Regards
> Birger (in Norway)
>  
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  5 19:31:17 2013
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 10:31:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] CR-5 and Cassette Deck 1 problems
In-Reply-To: <8F4D4C651FCD45E2A88181D4ACE62EC2@BirgerPC>
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Could easily be an idler problem. To check, clean the idler tire, brass pulley and hub 
mating surfaces thoroughly and see if the problem is solved. If so, order a new tire, 
as the 'repair' won't last long.

-- Ron





On Thursday, December 5, 2013 2:58 AM, Birger Glosimot <bglosi at tilkoblet.net> wrote:
 
 
>Neither 
my CR-5, nor my Cassette Deck 1 will react to the commands. 
>I 
have changed the belt for the capstans on the CR-5. The capstans were turning 
before also, but just in case. Also Cassette Deck 1 has capstans that 
functions.
> 
>For 
instance if I press play or any other command that should result in tape 
transport, on the CR-5 I can hear a short swirling noise and can see that the 
knurled brass end on the reel motor starts to spin, but stops without any 
movement to the reel hubs. I have not looked as close as this on the Cassette 
Deck 1, but have a feeling it is the same problem.
> 
>Is 
this an idler wheel problem or something else?
> 
>Regards
>Birger (in Norway)
> 
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From bglosi at tilkoblet.net  Fri Dec  6 08:29:47 2013
From: bglosi at tilkoblet.net (Birger Glosimot)
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 08:29:47 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] CR-5 and Cassette Deck 1 control motor problems (need
	repair description)
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Message-ID: <527B4BDF56E84D8C86002377D3D03122@BirgerPC>

Well it may be an idler problem also. But it defenitely is a control motor problem on both the CR-5 and the Cassette Deck 1. If it should also be the idler wheel, I will find out after having the control motor engage normaly.

I hope to receive some pictures from Norman (I have sent offline mail)

If anyone else have some description how to repair the motor, please post description as I would belive this can be a common problem.

And I expect to run into the problem again, as I have 29 Nakamichi decks. A couple BX's for parts and a couple doublettes, but 25 different Nakamichi decks :-)

Best regards

Birger

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ron 
  To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
  Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 7:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-5 and Cassette Deck 1 problems


  Could easily be an idler problem. To check, clean the idler tire, brass pulley and hub 
  mating surfaces thoroughly and see if the problem is solved. If so, order a new tire, 
  as the 'repair' won't last long.

  -- Ron






  On Thursday, December 5, 2013 2:58 AM, Birger Glosimot <bglosi at tilkoblet.net> wrote:

    Neither my CR-5, nor my Cassette Deck 1 will react to the commands. 
    I have changed the belt for the capstans on the CR-5. The capstans were turning before also, but just in case. Also Cassette Deck 1 has capstans that functions.

    For instance if I press play or any other command that should result in tape transport, on the CR-5 I can hear a short swirling noise and can see that the knurled brass end on the reel motor starts to spin, but stops without any movement to the reel hubs. I have not looked as close as this on the Cassette Deck 1, but have a feeling it is the same problem.

    Is this an idler wheel problem or something else?

    Regards
    Birger (in Norway)



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From mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk  Sat Dec  7 14:24:33 2013
From: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk (Mercedes Benz)
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2013 13:24:33 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] CR-5 and Cassette Deck 1 control motor problems
	(need	repair description)
Message-ID: <BAY405-EAS138408C6E9678433DB14B61B6D10@phx.gbl>

Following 2 links are for BX-300 but same principles apply as they are all Sankyo mechs. You will have to figure out how to remove the control motor assembly from your decks.

http://www.tapeheads.net/showthread.php?t=2299

Browse the above thread and further down there is a detailed procedure with pics.

http://kb.dutchalps.com/bx125repair.htm

The procedure in this thread is a bit complex but provides a better and long lasting solution but If not performed correctly it could also damage the motor beyond repair so be warned.

Regards
Nadeem

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________________________________
From: Birger Glosimot
Sent: 06/12/2013 08:24
To: Ron; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-5 and Cassette Deck 1 control motor problems (need repair description)

Well it may be an idler problem also. But it defenitely is a control motor problem on both the CR-5 and the Cassette Deck 1. If it should also be the idler wheel, I will find out after having the control motor engage normaly.

I hope to receive some pictures from Norman (I have sent offline mail)

If anyone else have some description how to repair the motor, please post description as I would belive this can be a common problem.

And I expect to run into the problem again, as I have 29 Nakamichi decks. A couple BX's for parts and a couple doublettes, but 25 different Nakamichi decks :-)

Best regards

Birger

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Ron
  To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
  Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 7:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-5 and Cassette Deck 1 problems


  Could easily be an idler problem. To check, clean the idler tire, brass pulley and hub
  mating surfaces thoroughly and see if the problem is solved. If so, order a new tire,
  as the 'repair' won't last long.

  -- Ron






  On Thursday, December 5, 2013 2:58 AM, Birger Glosimot <bglosi at tilkoblet.net> wrote:

    Neither my CR-5, nor my Cassette Deck 1 will react to the commands.
    I have changed the belt for the capstans on the CR-5. The capstans were turning before also, but just in case. Also Cassette Deck 1 has capstans that functions.

    For instance if I press play or any other command that should result in tape transport, on the CR-5 I can hear a short swirling noise and can see that the knurled brass end on the reel motor starts to spin, but stops without any movement to the reel hubs. I have not looked as close as this on the Cassette Deck 1, but have a feeling it is the same problem.

    Is this an idler wheel problem or something else?

    Regards
    Birger (in Norway)



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From bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk  Mon Dec  9 21:54:14 2013
From: bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk (Ben Stratford)
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 20:54:14 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] 680zx eject lever
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My latest project has a common issue - that of a broken eject lever on my 680zx.Should anyone have one to sell from a parts deck, I would be most grateful.Many ThanksBen Stratfordbenstratford at aol.com 		 	   		  
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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  9 23:54:08 2013
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh)
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 08:54:08 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] 680zx eject lever
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References: <DUB121-W319DD0B34F821F5789E76190D30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <9B5E570C-B55F-44FF-A973-8512E1333AA8@yahoo.com>

If you have the matching part, put a backing plate with small screws to hold the pieces together. Finish the crack with putty and spray over. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 10 Dec 2013, at 6:54 am, Ben Stratford <bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> My latest project has a common issue - that of a broken eject lever on my 680zx.
> Should anyone have one to sell from a parts deck, I would be most grateful.
> Many Thanks
> Ben Stratford
> benstratford at aol.com
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From bglosi at tilkoblet.net  Tue Dec 10 15:43:54 2013
From: bglosi at tilkoblet.net (Birger Glosimot)
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 15:43:54 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] CR-5 and Cassette Deck 1 control motor
	problems(need	repair description) Still no solution
In-Reply-To: <BAY405-EAS138408C6E9678433DB14B61B6D10@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY405-EAS138408C6E9678433DB14B61B6D10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <9D3A7A75A266468487BF68E93AF2ECC8@BirgerPC>

I have taken the control motor for the CR-5 apart and cleaned the contact points on the tree fingers that touch the cam. But also found that it may be without a rubber band that goes to the left (from front) reel hub. I have put one in but there is absolutely no help. The motor seems to run fine and it does not seem to stop as described in one tread that was linked to by Mercedes Benz. 

But on the Cassette deck One that seems to be the problem, run a little and then stop. The CR-5 keep running.

 

HELP ;-) !

 

(Maybe I will try to buy a new motor as offered, but will do some more checking and appreciate help)

 

Best regards

Birger
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mercedes Benz 
  To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
  Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 2:24 PM
  Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-5 and Cassette Deck 1 control motor problems(need repair description)


  Following 2 links are for BX-300 but same principles apply as they are all Sankyo mechs. You will have to figure out how to remove the control motor assembly from your decks.

  http://www.tapeheads.net/showthread.php?t=2299

  Browse the above thread and further down there is a detailed procedure with pics.

  http://kb.dutchalps.com/bx125repair.htm

  The procedure in this thread is a bit complex but provides a better and long lasting solution but If not performed correctly it could also damage the motor beyond repair so be warned.

  Regards
  Nadeem

  Sent from my killer Windows Phone


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  From: Birger Glosimot
  Sent: 06/12/2013 08:24
  To: Ron; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
  Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-5 and Cassette Deck 1 control motor problems (need repair description)


  Well it may be an idler problem also. But it defenitely is a control motor problem on both the CR-5 and the Cassette Deck 1. If it should also be the idler wheel, I will find out after having the control motor engage normaly.

  I hope to receive some pictures from Norman (I have sent offline mail)

  If anyone else have some description how to repair the motor, please post description as I would belive this can be a common problem.

  And I expect to run into the problem again, as I have 29 Nakamichi decks. A couple BX's for parts and a couple doublettes, but 25 different Nakamichi decks :-)

  Best regards

  Birger

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Ron 
    To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
    Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 7:31 PM
    Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-5 and Cassette Deck 1 problems


    Could easily be an idler problem. To check, clean the idler tire, brass pulley and hub 
    mating surfaces thoroughly and see if the problem is solved. If so, order a new tire, 
    as the 'repair' won't last long.

    -- Ron






    On Thursday, December 5, 2013 2:58 AM, Birger Glosimot <bglosi at tilkoblet.net> wrote:

      Neither my CR-5, nor my Cassette Deck 1 will react to the commands. 
      I have changed the belt for the capstans on the CR-5. The capstans were turning before also, but just in case. Also Cassette Deck 1 has capstans that functions.

      For instance if I press play or any other command that should result in tape transport, on the CR-5 I can hear a short swirling noise and can see that the knurled brass end on the reel motor starts to spin, but stops without any movement to the reel hubs. I have not looked as close as this on the Cassette Deck 1, but have a feeling it is the same problem.

      Is this an idler wheel problem or something else?

      Regards
      Birger (in Norway)



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From mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk  Tue Dec 10 18:11:57 2013
From: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk (Mercedes Benz)
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 17:11:57 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] CR-5 and Cassette Deck 1 control motor	problems(need
	repair description) Still no solution
Message-ID: <SNT405-EAS127AA8ABFFBCC1F79EA5549B6D20@phx.gbl>

That rubber band you are referring to is the square tape tension belt. I am not sure about the size of this belt but if you search online you should be able to find one for CR5.

Regarding the control motor, did you spray Deoxit sparingly on the holes at the terminals on the back of the motor and did you let it run in both directions for some time?

>From your message it seems like you are referring to the reel motor which runs without stopping. The motor which requires servicing is the control motor. If you did service the control motor then is the CR5 still not responding to commands?

Regarding the Cassette Deck One clean the three leaf switches with Deoxit first.

Regards
Nadeem

Sent from my killer Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Birger Glosimot
Sent: 10/12/2013 16:06
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-5 and Cassette Deck 1 control motor problems(need repair description) Still no solution

I have taken the control motor for the CR-5 apart and cleaned the contact points on the tree fingers that touch the cam. But also found that it may be without a rubber band that goes to the left (from front) reel hub. I have put one in but there is absolutely no help. The motor seems to run fine and it does not seem to stop as described in one tread that was linked to by Mercedes Benz.

But on the Cassette deck One that seems to be the problem, run a little and then stop. The CR-5 keep running.



HELP ;-) !



(Maybe I will try to buy a new motor as offered, but will do some more checking and appreciate help)



Best regards

Birger
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Mercedes Benz
  To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
  Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 2:24 PM
  Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR-5 and Cassette Deck 1 control motor problems(need repair description)


  Following 2 links are for BX-300 but same principles apply as they are all Sankyo mechs. You will have to figure out how to remove the control motor assembly from your decks.

  http://www.tapeheads.net/showthread.php?t=2299

  Browse the above thread and further down there is a detailed procedure with pics.

  http://kb.dutchalps.com/bx125repair.htm

  The procedure in this thread is a bit complex but provides a better and long lasting solution but If not performed correctly it could also damage the motor beyond repair so be warned.

  Regards
  Nadeem

  Sent from my killer Windows Phone


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  From: Birger Glosimot
  Sent: 06/12/2013 08:24
  To: Ron; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
  Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-5 and Cassette Deck 1 control motor problems (need repair description)


  Well it may be an idler problem also. But it defenitely is a control motor problem on both the CR-5 and the Cassette Deck 1. If it should also be the idler wheel, I will find out after having the control motor engage normaly.

  I hope to receive some pictures from Norman (I have sent offline mail)

  If anyone else have some description how to repair the motor, please post description as I would belive this can be a common problem.

  And I expect to run into the problem again, as I have 29 Nakamichi decks. A couple BX's for parts and a couple doublettes, but 25 different Nakamichi decks :-)

  Best regards

  Birger

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Ron
    To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
    Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 7:31 PM
    Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR-5 and Cassette Deck 1 problems


    Could easily be an idler problem. To check, clean the idler tire, brass pulley and hub
    mating surfaces thoroughly and see if the problem is solved. If so, order a new tire,
    as the 'repair' won't last long.

    -- Ron






    On Thursday, December 5, 2013 2:58 AM, Birger Glosimot <bglosi at tilkoblet.net> wrote:

      Neither my CR-5, nor my Cassette Deck 1 will react to the commands.
      I have changed the belt for the capstans on the CR-5. The capstans were turning before also, but just in case. Also Cassette Deck 1 has capstans that functions.

      For instance if I press play or any other command that should result in tape transport, on the CR-5 I can hear a short swirling noise and can see that the knurled brass end on the reel motor starts to spin, but stops without any movement to the reel hubs. I have not looked as close as this on the Cassette Deck 1, but have a feeling it is the same problem.

      Is this an idler wheel problem or something else?

      Regards
      Birger (in Norway)



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From ronami at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 17 20:15:52 2013
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:15:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] Looking fo ths Wiki/manuals URLs
Message-ID: <1387307752.62545.YahooMailNeo@web160204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Hi,

Haven't looked at the Wiki or Manuals pages for quite a while and now 

my bookmarks return an error message. Can some kind soul help with \
the correct URLs?

Thanks in advance,

-- Ron
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From n.van.wijnen at gmail.com  Tue Dec 17 20:46:20 2013
From: n.van.wijnen at gmail.com (Norman van Wijnen)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 20:46:20 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Looking fo ths Wiki/manuals URLs
In-Reply-To: <1387307752.62545.YahooMailNeo@web160204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1387307752.62545.YahooMailNeo@web160204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <29CE90A9-EC8C-4014-A833-32E137E45C30@gmail.com>

Hi Ron,

Try 
http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php

Best regards

Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

> Op 17 dec. 2013 om 20:15 heeft Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Haven't looked at the Wiki or Manuals pages for quite a while and now 
> my bookmarks return an error message. Can some kind soul help with \
> the correct URLs?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> -- Ron
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From luis at peromarta.org  Tue Dec 17 21:05:06 2013
From: luis at peromarta.org (Luis Peromarta)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 21:05:06 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Looking fo ths Wiki/manuals URLs
In-Reply-To: <1387307752.62545.YahooMailNeo@web160204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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Naks.com/wiki i think

Sent from iPhone. Pls excuse typos.

> El 17/12/2013, a las 20:15, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> escribió:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Haven't looked at the Wiki or Manuals pages for quite a while and now 
> my bookmarks return an error message. Can some kind soul help with \
> the correct URLs?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> -- Ron
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From drucyphr at gmail.com  Tue Dec 17 20:46:33 2013
From: drucyphr at gmail.com (drucyphr)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:46:33 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] Looking fo ths Wiki/manuals URLs
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References: <1387307752.62545.YahooMailNeo@web160204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php is the re-directed link in the NakTalk
signature.


On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Haven't looked at the Wiki or Manuals pages for quite a while and now
> my bookmarks return an error message. Can some kind soul help with \
> the correct URLs?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> -- Ron
>
>
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 18 15:53:50 2013
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 06:53:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] Looking fo ths Wiki/manuals URLs
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References: <1387307752.62545.YahooMailNeo@web160204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<29CE90A9-EC8C-4014-A833-32E137E45C30@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1387378430.84407.YahooMailNeo@web160201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>



Thanks much to both that answered. 


Turned out I shouldn't have bothered.... I was looking for any data on the Nakamichi 

DE-1, which is an RF demodulator, designed for extracting multichannel audio audio 

from AC-3 laser disks -- no luck... 


Dos anyone have the service manual for this beast?

-- Ron




On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 2:46 PM, Norman van Wijnen <n.van.wijnen at gmail.com> wrote:
 
Hi Ron,
>
>
>Try 
>http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php
>
>
>Best regards
>
>
>Norman
>
>Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>
>Op 17 dec. 2013 om 20:15 heeft Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> het volgende geschreven:
>
>
>Hi,
>>
>>
>>Haven't looked at the Wiki or Manuals pages for quite a while and now 
>>
>>my bookmarks return an error message. Can some kind soul help with \
>>the correct URLs?
>>
>>
>>Thanks in advance,
>>
>>
>>-- Ron
>>
>>
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From wheijke at xs4all.nl  Sun Dec 22 21:56:03 2013
From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke)
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 21:56:03 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] new brochures
Message-ID: <0571b56e06d30d0f422d94d3e0c9d0dd.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>

For Christmas ... a whole bunch of Nak brochures added today, thanks to Fred!

http://wiki.naks.com/

(yes it's new)

And referring to Ron's request, any scanned Nakamichi document is welcome!

Happy Holidays,

Wouter



From harpalassi at gmail.com  Wed Dec 25 19:31:37 2013
From: harpalassi at gmail.com (Harpal Assi)
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2013 12:31:37 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 480 muffled and reel issues.
Message-ID: <CACmBoU3Z2ihryVfDP8W26Dd3Tow4o21TijENddfq7zT5qa88Ww@mail.gmail.com>

I'm new to Nakamichi and tape decks in general and recently purchased a 480
from an online auction. It was stated as 'excellent working condition', but
alas it was not. I was told it had never been serviced. It is in beautiful
cosmetic condition and came in the original box and manual, so it just
seems worn.

The main issue is that the sound begins clear and bright and within seconds
it gets muffled and more muffled to the point where it is impossible to
hear. If I hit 'Pause' and then unpause it, the full sound returns
beautifully for a few seconds and then the muffling begins again. I have
cleaned the heads, captans, pinch rollers pretty throughly with 91%
Isopropyl and Q-Tips. This helped somewhat, as the tape never sounded
bright at all when I initially tried it and just stopped playing after 15
seconds. Now, I can hear the initial brightness and it plays through the
end.

The second issue is intermittent and it's only usually on one side of the
tape. When I push the tape inside, there is a LOUD 'whirr' and the counter
moves forward 1 or 2 numbers. When I press play, the transport is VERY
NOISY and the counter numbers are moving twice as fast as they should be.
If I look at the tape, the reel on the right side is obviously the culprit
as it's very jerky and not rotating smoothly like the one on the left. The
odd thing is, I can flip the tape to the other side and the problem is gone
(in most cases).

Is the second issue caused by the first issue, or are they completely
separate? Are these fairly easy for a DIY fix, or should i pay for a tech?
There is a tech near my work, but I'm afraid I don't know what an estimate
would be. I know there is a $70 diagnostic fee which goes towards repair.
I'm hoping not to spend more than $150 at the most. I have done some other
DIY repairs including installing new lamps in my vintage receiver,
replacing vintage foam surrounds and installing hinges on a Technics 1200
mk2 (not as easy as you would think). Are these issues on the same level of
repair, or am I in way over my head to do it myself?

My other option is to file a claim and try to get all my money back and
ship it back to the seller, (as it was not as described) but that is my
last resort. Once I saw how beautiful it looked and the brief full sound, I
wanted to keep it. I'm trying to get a partial refund.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.
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From gerhard.wartha at gmail.com  Thu Dec 26 08:56:08 2013
From: gerhard.wartha at gmail.com (Gerhard Wartha)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 08:56:08 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 480 muffled and reel issues.
In-Reply-To: <CACmBoU3Z2ihryVfDP8W26Dd3Tow4o21TijENddfq7zT5qa88Ww@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACmBoU3Z2ihryVfDP8W26Dd3Tow4o21TijENddfq7zT5qa88Ww@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi,
You can claim 50% from the money back. But ceep this 480 as a spare  
part if you need any, some time.

Than buy a nother  480. There is on in Canada for less than 100$.-

Most of 480 work fine. So my be yours  did have a transport foult   
coming from  shipping the Item.

If you have two 480, and one is working it is more easy to repair the  
non working one, by looking closely

to  the differences between the Decks.

regards

Gerhard
Am 25.12.2013 um 19:31 schrieb Harpal Assi:

> I'm new to Nakamichi and tape decks in general and recently  
> purchased a 480 from an online auction. It was stated as 'excellent  
> working condition', but alas it was not. I was told it had never  
> been serviced. It is in beautiful cosmetic condition and came in  
> the original box and manual, so it just seems worn.
>
> The main issue is that the sound begins clear and bright and within  
> seconds it gets muffled and more muffled to the point where it is  
> impossible to hear. If I hit 'Pause' and then unpause it, the full  
> sound returns beautifully for a few seconds and then the muffling  
> begins again. I have cleaned the heads, captans, pinch rollers  
> pretty throughly with 91% Isopropyl and Q-Tips. This helped  
> somewhat, as the tape never sounded bright at all when I initially  
> tried it and just stopped playing after 15 seconds. Now, I can hear  
> the initial brightness and it plays through the end.
>
> The second issue is intermittent and it's only usually on one side  
> of the tape. When I push the tape inside, there is a LOUD 'whirr'  
> and the counter moves forward 1 or 2 numbers. When I press play,  
> the transport is VERY NOISY and the counter numbers are moving  
> twice as fast as they should be. If I look at the tape, the reel on  
> the right side is obviously the culprit as it's very jerky and not  
> rotating smoothly like the one on the left. The odd thing is, I can  
> flip the tape to the other side and the problem is gone (in most  
> cases).
>
> Is the second issue caused by the first issue, or are they  
> completely separate? Are these fairly easy for a DIY fix, or should  
> i pay for a tech? There is a tech near my work, but I'm afraid I  
> don't know what an estimate would be. I know there is a $70  
> diagnostic fee which goes towards repair. I'm hoping not to spend  
> more than $150 at the most. I have done some other DIY repairs  
> including installing new lamps in my vintage receiver, replacing  
> vintage foam surrounds and installing hinges on a Technics 1200 mk2  
> (not as easy as you would think). Are these issues on the same  
> level of repair, or am I in way over my head to do it myself?
>
> My other option is to file a claim and try to get all my money back  
> and ship it back to the seller, (as it was not as described) but  
> that is my last resort. Once I saw how beautiful it looked and the  
> brief full sound, I wanted to keep it. I'm trying to get a partial  
> refund.
>
> Thanks in advance for any assistance.
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From paer.ericsson at blixtmail.se  Thu Dec 26 10:49:55 2013
From: paer.ericsson at blixtmail.se (=?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E4r_Ericsson?=)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 10:49:55 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 480 muffled and reel issues.
In-Reply-To: <CACmBoU3Z2ihryVfDP8W26Dd3Tow4o21TijENddfq7zT5qa88Ww@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACmBoU3Z2ihryVfDP8W26Dd3Tow4o21TijENddfq7zT5qa88Ww@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3D269CFDDEEC452D894E78CBD91A38ED@Mobile>

Hi!

Your 480 needs new rubber parts. The main issue is due to bad capstan belt and the second issue is due to dry rubber on the idler tire.
All parts is available at Fred Marrs but the idle tire is a little bit tricky to replace.

Good luck/Pelle.

From: Harpal Assi 
Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 7:31 PM
To: naktalk at naks.com 
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 480 muffled and reel issues.

I'm new to Nakamichi and tape decks in general and recently purchased a 480 from an online auction. It was stated as 'excellent working condition', but alas it was not. I was told it had never been serviced. It is in beautiful cosmetic condition and came in the original box and manual, so it just seems worn. 

The main issue is that the sound begins clear and bright and within seconds it gets muffled and more muffled to the point where it is impossible to hear. If I hit 'Pause' and then unpause it, the full sound returns beautifully for a few seconds and then the muffling begins again. I have cleaned the heads, captans, pinch rollers pretty throughly with 91% Isopropyl and Q-Tips. This helped somewhat, as the tape never sounded bright at all when I initially tried it and just stopped playing after 15 seconds. Now, I can hear the initial brightness and it plays through the end. 

The second issue is intermittent and it's only usually on one side of the tape. When I push the tape inside, there is a LOUD 'whirr' and the counter moves forward 1 or 2 numbers. When I press play, the transport is VERY NOISY and the counter numbers are moving twice as fast as they should be. If I look at the tape, the reel on the right side is obviously the culprit as it's very jerky and not rotating smoothly like the one on the left. The odd thing is, I can flip the tape to the other side and the problem is gone (in most cases).

Is the second issue caused by the first issue, or are they completely separate? Are these fairly easy for a DIY fix, or should i pay for a tech? There is a tech near my work, but I'm afraid I don't know what an estimate would be. I know there is a $70 diagnostic fee which goes towards repair. I'm hoping not to spend more than $150 at the most. I have done some other DIY repairs including installing new lamps in my vintage receiver, replacing vintage foam surrounds and installing hinges on a Technics 1200 mk2 (not as easy as you would think). Are these issues on the same level of repair, or am I in way over my head to do it myself?

My other option is to file a claim and try to get all my money back and ship it back to the seller, (as it was not as described) but that is my last resort. Once I saw how beautiful it looked and the brief full sound, I wanted to keep it. I'm trying to get a partial refund.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.


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From wnn523484 at telfort.nl  Thu Dec 26 12:08:23 2013
From: wnn523484 at telfort.nl (ScHenk)
Date: 26 Dec 2013 12:08:23 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Nakamichi 480 muffled and reel issues
Message-ID: <11140544.376421388056103479.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost>

Hello Harpal

Your issues seem all possible results from frozen tape guide frames. These frame also hold the tape rollers and these are mis alligned now the guide frames are frozen, causing tape path problems and tape and reel speed issues.

The hard sound (kirrrrr) when engaging tape play or closing the door is due to a worn idler.

These are standard issues for this type of deck. This can be fixed but this will pose a challenge for a novice. Repairing the tape guide frames will necessitate the re- allignment of the tap guide and rollers, requiring specilized and costly tools. Repairing the idler almost allways requires the splitting of the transport mechanism, which is an precise work for a skilled technician.

As Gerhard Wartha stated, keep this one deck and compare with a different sample (preferably in good working order) if you want to take these tasks on yourself. Otherwise find the skilled people willing to help in your area of the world. Calling upon this forum brings you half way the latter.

Succes
And every one , merry Xmas and enjoy the last days of 2013.
Henk Schenk

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From: Harpal Assi <harpalassi at gmail.com>
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 480 muffled and reel issues.
To: naktalk at naks.com
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I'm new to Nakamichi and tape decks in general and recently purchased a 480
from an online auction. It was stated as 'excellent working condition', but
alas it was not. I was told it had never been serviced. It is in beautiful
cosmetic condition and came in the original box and manual, so it just
seems worn.

The main issue is that the sound begins clear and bright and within seconds
it gets muffled and more muffled to the point where it is impossible to
hear. If I hit 'Pause' and then unpause it, the full sound returns
beautifully for a few seconds and then the muffling begins again. I have
cleaned the heads, captans, pinch rollers pretty throughly with 91%
Isopropyl and Q-Tips. This helped somewhat, as the tape never sounded
bright at all when I initially tried it and just stopped playing after 15
seconds. Now, I can hear the initial brightness and it plays through the
end.

The second issue is intermittent and it's only usually on one side of the
tape. When I push the tape inside, there is a LOUD 'whirr' and the counter
moves forward 1 or 2 numbers. When I press play, the transport is VERY
NOISY and the counter numbers are moving twice as fast as they should be.
If I look at the tape, the reel on the right side is obviously the culprit
as it's very jerky and not rotating smoothly like the one on the left. The
odd thing is, I can flip the tape to the other side and the problem is gone
(in most cases).

Is the second issue caused by the first issue, or are they completely
separate? Are these fairly easy for a DIY fix, or should i pay for a tech?
There is a tech near my work, but I'm afraid I don't know what an estimate
would be. I know there is a $70 diagnostic fee which goes towards repair.
I'm hoping not to spend more than $150 at the most. I have done some other
DIY repairs including installing new lamps in my vintage receiver,
replacing vintage foam surrounds and installing hinges on a Technics 1200
mk2 (not as easy as you would think). Are these issues on the same level of
repair, or am I in way over my head to do it myself?

My other option is to file a claim and try to get all my money back and
ship it back to the seller, (as it was not as described) but that is my
last resort. Once I saw how beautiful it looked and the brief full sound, I
wanted to keep it. I'm trying to get a partial refund.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.



From spok2000 at gmx.de  Thu Dec 26 12:56:25 2013
From: spok2000 at gmx.de (spok2000 at gmx.de)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 12:56:25 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] 1. Nakamichi 480 muffled and reel issues. (Harpal Assi)
In-Reply-To: <201312261125.rBQB7Qvl004140@zxe.naks.com>
References: <201312261125.rBQB7Qvl004140@zxe.naks.com>
Message-ID: <ABB9B4E9-7DC8-4111-8286-49E5C9D4F1D5@gmx.de>

> 
>   1. Nakamichi 480 muffled and reel issues. (Harpal Assi)

Harpal-

don't be alarmed.

The state your deck is in, is exactly what's to be expected.
A never-before-serviced 480 must have issues. ALWAYS.
If, at first power up, it doesn't, it will develop some. Indefinitely.

Don't send it back and don't necessarily expect a refund although you can try. For a non-experienced seller it must appear as fully working as he simply has no chance of determining any of  the issues.
We don't know what you paid  but when you say you got the original box, manual and the deck's in pristine optical state, it's definitely a keeper. These are a rare find.
Gerhard's mentioned $100-Nak is waaaaay too expensive, because it will be in the same state of known and unknown issues.

It will have the same tape travel dificulties as your deck and will need service. It will also have the same orange cap disease as your deck - these have to be replaced otherwise your bias circuit will blow sometime during your first recordings.
There is no way of just buying a second 480, use it as a blue print and then bring it to work. EVERY Nak of that time needs service. You could buy 10 480's and it won't help you. They all need the same service. And normally you don't need a spare part donor - in a 480 almost everything can be fixed.
For people who done it before it's no big deal, however, your estimate of a total of $150 may be a little optimistic:

-The transport has to be taken apart, degreased and readjusted mechanically (~2hrs)
-Sometimes the capstan arms are completely stuck, which is a pita to fix. (Obviously not with your deck, so you're lucky here.)
-The belts have to be changed. The only ones that make sense at all are the ones supplied by Fred Marrs, period. (~$40)
-Idler tire has to be replaced.
-The eject mechanism has to be reengineered because it is broken. Even if it's still working now, it will break when the deck's being used again. (~1/2hr)
-All the "orange caps" have to be replaced (~2hrs)
-The rec/play switch on the main PCB has to be unsoldered, taken apart, cleaned, sealed, and put back in. (~1hr)
-Switches and pots are to be cleaned (always) and lamps to be replaced (sometimes).
-Deck has to be readjusted electrically and calibrated to a cassette brand of your choice (~1hr)

This is the workflow if nothing's really broken. Otherwise you can add time (and money) for finding and fixing.
So if you're lucky you might get the restoration for $150 but you have to add your auction price.
And there's no way of doing all this yourself without proper measuring equipment and calibration tapes and tools.

Given these facts I personally have set a strict limitation on the initial price when buying these decks.
On a 480 it is $30, a 482 is $40, 670 is $60 and a 680 is $100. Everything else just doesn't make any sense.

Your funny noise, btw., comes from the idler wheel which initially has been made from rubber but turned to hard plastics now. In Fred Marrs' belt set there will be a fresh tire.
After replacement the deck will be dead silent.

HTH.
best,
spocintosh
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From thomas36245-net at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 26 15:51:42 2013
From: thomas36245-net at yahoo.com (thomas)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 06:51:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 480 muffled and reel issues.
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The second issue sounds like the tape slack take up system operating with a bad ( hardened rubber ) idler tire...and the main issue sounds like a tape skewing problem that may be hardened rubber pinch rollers. You can try a product call PB Blaster ( a strong smelling yellow liquid in a spray can )  to soften the rubber pinch rollers ( spray a little into the spray cans plastic cap and apply a little to the rubber rollers with a cotton swab...let it set for 10 minutes then clean it off with another clean swab. Don't get any on plastic parts because it will damage the plastic. The rubber idler tire might be accessible from the top ( take the metal case off and look down from the top of the transport ) . you can try to scuff it up with an emery board or strip of medium sandpaper and clean it with iso-alcohol for a temporary fix ( might last months or a year ).       Thomas.



________________________________
From: Harpal Assi <harpalassi at gmail.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 1:31 PM
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 480 muffled and reel issues.



I'm new to Nakamichi and tape decks in general and recently purchased a 480 from an online auction. It was stated as 'excellent working condition', but alas it was not. I was told it had never been serviced. It is in beautiful cosmetic condition and came in the original box and manual, so it just seems worn. 

The main issue is that the sound begins clear and bright and within seconds it gets muffled and more muffled to the point where it is impossible to hear. If I hit 'Pause' and then unpause it, the full sound returns beautifully for a few seconds and then the muffling begins again. I have cleaned the heads, captans, pinch rollers pretty throughly with 91% Isopropyl and Q-Tips. This helped somewhat, as the tape never sounded bright at all when I initially tried it and just stopped playing after 15 seconds. Now, I can hear the initial brightness and it plays through the end. 

The second issue is intermittent and it's only usually on one side of the tape. When I push the tape inside, there is a LOUD 'whirr' and the counter moves forward 1 or 2 numbers. When I press play, the transport is VERY NOISY and the counter numbers are moving twice as fast as they should be. If I look at the tape, the reel on the right side is obviously the culprit as it's very jerky and not rotating smoothly like the one on the left. The odd thing is, I can flip the tape to the other side and the problem is gone (in most cases).

Is the second issue caused by the first issue, or are they completely separate? Are these fairly easy for a DIY fix, or should i pay for a tech? There is a tech near my work, but I'm afraid I don't know what an estimate would be. I know there is a $70 diagnostic fee which goes towards repair. I'm hoping not to spend more than $150 at the most. I have done some other DIY repairs including installing new lamps in my vintage receiver, replacing vintage foam surrounds and installing hinges on a Technics 1200 mk2 (not as easy as you would think). Are these issues on the same level of repair, or am I in way over my head to do it myself?

My other option is to file a claim and try to get all my money back and ship it back to the seller, (as it was not as described) but that is my last resort. Once I saw how beautiful it looked and the brief full sound, I wanted to keep it. I'm trying to get a partial refund.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.
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From paul.kellerman at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec 26 16:07:13 2013
From: paul.kellerman at sbcglobal.net (Paul Kellerman)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 07:07:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] 1. Nakamichi 480 muffled and reel issues. (Harpal Assi)
In-Reply-To: <ABB9B4E9-7DC8-4111-8286-49E5C9D4F1D5@gmx.de>
References: <201312261125.rBQB7Qvl004140@zxe.naks.com>
	<ABB9B4E9-7DC8-4111-8286-49E5C9D4F1D5@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <1388070433.17117.YahooMailNeo@web185006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

My choice has been to upgrade DR-2 decks. resonable priced and not very old as 70-80s decks. Let me know if you need tech data to upgrade PK

 

________________________________
 From: "spok2000 at gmx.de" <spok2000 at gmx.de>
To: naktalk at naks.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 5:56 AM
Subject: [naktalk] 1. Nakamichi 480 muffled and reel issues. (Harpal Assi)
  

> 
>   1. Nakamichi 480 muffled and reel issues. (Harpal Assi)

Harpal-

don't be alarmed.

The state your deck is in, is exactly what's to be expected.
A never-before-serviced 480 must have issues. ALWAYS.
If, at first power up, it doesn't, it will develop some. Indefinitely.

Don't send it back and don't necessarily expect a refund although you can try. For a non-experienced seller it must appear as fully working as he simply has no chance of determining any of  the issues.
We don't know what you paid  but when you say you got the original box, manual and the deck's in pristine optical state, it's definitely a keeper. These are a rare find.
Gerhard's mentioned $100-Nak is waaaaay too expensive, because it will be in the same state of known and unknown issues.

It will have the same tape travel dificulties as your deck and will need service. It will also have the same orange cap disease as your deck - these have to be replaced otherwise your bias circuit will blow sometime during your first recordings.
There is no way of just buying a second 480, use it as a blue print and then bring it to work. EVERY Nak of that time needs service. You could buy 10 480's and it won't help you. They all need the same service. And normally you don't need a spare part donor - in a 480 almost everything can be fixed.
For people who done it before it's no big deal, however, your estimate of a total of $150 may be a little optimistic:

-The transport has to be taken apart, degreased and readjusted mechanically (~2hrs)
-Sometimes the capstan arms are completely stuck, which is a pita to fix. (Obviously not with your deck, so you're lucky here.)
-The belts have to be changed. The only ones that make sense at all are the ones supplied by Fred Marrs, period. (~$40)
-Idler tire has to be replaced.
-The eject mechanism has to be reengineered because it is broken. Even if it's still working now, it will break when the deck's being used again. (~1/2hr)
-All the "orange caps" have to be replaced (~2hrs)
-The rec/play switch on the main PCB has to be unsoldered, taken apart, cleaned, sealed, and put back in. (~1hr)
-Switches and pots are to be cleaned (always) and lamps to be replaced (sometimes).
-Deck has to be readjusted electrically and calibrated to a cassette brand of your choice (~1hr)

This is the workflow if nothing's really broken. Otherwise you can add time (and money) for finding and fixing.
So if you're lucky you might get the restoration for $150 but you have to add your auction price.
And there's no way of doing all this yourself without proper measuring equipment and calibration tapes and tools.

Given these facts I personally have set a strict limitation on the initial price when buying these decks.
On a 480 it is $30, a 482 is $40, 670 is $60 and a 680 is $100. Everything else just doesn't make any sense.

Your funny noise, btw., comes from the idler wheel which initially has been made from rubber but turned to hard plastics now. In Fred Marrs' belt set there will be a fresh tire.
After replacement the deck will be dead silent.

HTH.
best,
spocintosh

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From harpalassi at gmail.com  Thu Dec 26 19:58:57 2013
From: harpalassi at gmail.com (Harpal Assi)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 12:58:57 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] 1. Nakamichi 480 muffled and reel issues. (Harpal Assi)
In-Reply-To: <ABB9B4E9-7DC8-4111-8286-49E5C9D4F1D5@gmx.de>
References: <201312261125.rBQB7Qvl004140@zxe.naks.com>
	<ABB9B4E9-7DC8-4111-8286-49E5C9D4F1D5@gmx.de>
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I appreciate your information, spocintosh. I did pay $50 for this deck, but
the seller contacted me back and it seems likely I will get some sort of
refund. I asked for 50%, so that would bring the deck down to about $25
(not bad, and within your range) I called the service tech nearby and they
gave me a ballpark estimate of $150-200 for the service, which seems worth
it to have this deck up and running for years. It seems a bit more logical
than me tackling some parts here and there and having some other things
fail in the near future.


On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 5:56 AM, spok2000 at gmx.de <spok2000 at gmx.de> wrote:

> >
> >   1. Nakamichi 480 muffled and reel issues. (Harpal Assi)
>
> Harpal-
>
> don't be alarmed.
>
> The state your deck is in, is exactly what's to be expected.
> A never-before-serviced 480 must have issues. ALWAYS.
> If, at first power up, it doesn't, it will develop some. Indefinitely.
>
> Don't send it back and don't necessarily expect a refund although you can
> try. For a non-experienced seller it must appear as fully working as he
> simply has no chance of determining any of  the issues.
> We don't know what you paid  but when you say you got the original box,
> manual and the deck's in pristine optical state, it's definitely a keeper.
> These are a rare find.
> Gerhard's mentioned $100-Nak is waaaaay too expensive, because it will be
> in the same state of known and unknown issues.
>
> It will have the same tape travel dificulties as your deck and will need
> service. It will also have the same orange cap disease as your deck - these
> have to be replaced otherwise your bias circuit will blow sometime during
> your first recordings.
> There is no way of just buying a second 480, use it as a blue print and
> then bring it to work. EVERY Nak of that time needs service. You could buy
> 10 480's and it won't help you. They all need the same service. And
> normally you don't need a spare part donor - in a 480 almost everything can
> be fixed.
> For people who done it before it's no big deal, however, your estimate of
> a total of $150 may be a little optimistic:
>
> -The transport has to be taken apart, degreased and readjusted
> mechanically (~2hrs)
> -Sometimes the capstan arms are completely stuck, which is a pita to fix.
> (Obviously not with your deck, so you're lucky here.)
> -The belts have to be changed. The only ones that make sense at all are
> the ones supplied by Fred Marrs, period. (~$40)
> -Idler tire has to be replaced.
> -The eject mechanism has to be reengineered because it is broken. Even if
> it's still working now, it will break when the deck's being used again.
> (~1/2hr)
> -All the "orange caps" have to be replaced (~2hrs)
> -The rec/play switch on the main PCB has to be unsoldered, taken apart,
> cleaned, sealed, and put back in. (~1hr)
> -Switches and pots are to be cleaned (always) and lamps to be replaced
> (sometimes).
> -Deck has to be readjusted electrically and calibrated to a cassette brand
> of your choice (~1hr)
>
> This is the workflow if nothing's really broken. Otherwise you can add
> time (and money) for finding and fixing.
> So if you're lucky you might get the restoration for $150 but you have to
> add your auction price.
> And there's no way of doing all this yourself without proper measuring
> equipment and calibration tapes and tools.
>
> Given these facts I personally have set a strict limitation on the initial
> price when buying these decks.
> On a 480 it is $30, a 482 is $40, 670 is $60 and a 680 is $100. Everything
> else just doesn't make any sense.
>
> Your funny noise, btw., comes from the idler wheel which initially has
> been made from rubber but turned to hard plastics now. In Fred Marrs' belt
> set there will be a fresh tire.
> After replacement the deck will be dead silent.
>
> HTH.
> best,
> spocintosh
>
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From statonenterprise at netscape.net  Fri Dec 27 17:25:17 2013
From: statonenterprise at netscape.net (Roger Staton)
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 16:25:17 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] tape sticks?
Message-ID: <178FA646-D81C-4C6F-BF3F-2087B4C9CEB0@netscape.net>

Hi,
When playing cassettes on my Nakamichi CD1 the tape often stops and on inspecting the cassette a small loop of tape has been pulled out
between plastic cut out on the right of the replay tape head cut out.
can you suggest a reason for this please?

Thank you

Roger


From paul.kellerman at sbcglobal.net  Fri Dec 27 18:44:50 2013
From: paul.kellerman at sbcglobal.net (Paul Kellerman)
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 09:44:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] tape sticks?
In-Reply-To: <178FA646-D81C-4C6F-BF3F-2087B4C9CEB0@netscape.net>
References: <178FA646-D81C-4C6F-BF3F-2087B4C9CEB0@netscape.net>
Message-ID: <1388166290.64585.YahooMailNeo@web185004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Had a BX-300 that was doing this, was intermittent reel motor.

 

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 From: Roger Staton <statonenterprise at netscape.net>
To: naktalk at naks.com 
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 10:25 AM
Subject: [naktalk] tape sticks?
  

Hi,
When playing cassettes on my Nakamichi CD1 the tape often stops and on inspecting the cassette a small loop of tape has been pulled out
between plastic cut out on the right of the replay tape head cut out.
can you suggest a reason for this please?

Thank you

Roger
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 28 16:51:15 2013
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 07:51:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] tape sticks?
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Sounds like a takeup problem (the takeup spool stops turning, trigerring auto stop). 

Most likely, the idler rubber tire has hardened and glazed, causing slippage. 
Less likely (but still, possible), the reel motor has developed 'dead spots' (meaning, 
it intermittently stops turning).

To diagnose, remove the cassette well cover plate. Press PLAY with no cassette in 
the well. Grab the takup hub while looking at the brass pulley. if it still rotates before 
the transport stops (in about 1 second), the problem is with the idler. If the pulley 
stops as soon as you hold the hub, the problem is probably the reel motor.

The idler tire can be easily and cheaply replaced. The reel motor is expensive and 
more difficult to replace. 

Good luck,

-- Ron 





On Friday, December 27, 2013 12:47 PM, Roger Staton <statonenterprise at netscape.net> wrote:
 
Hi,
>When playing cassettes on my Nakamichi CD1 the tape often stops and on inspecting the cassette a small loop of tape has been pulled out
>between plastic cut out on the right of the replay tape head cut out.
>can you suggest a reason for this please?
>
>Thank you
>
>Roger
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From mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk  Sat Dec 28 17:48:43 2013
From: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk (Mercedes Benz)
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 16:48:43 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] tape sticks?
Message-ID: <COL402-EAS296EBDE62B1845BD4681A79B6CC0@phx.gbl>

Ron, CD1 doesn't have an idler tire it has a gear so it could either be the reel motor or something else.

Regards
Nadeem

Sent from my killer Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Ron
Sent: 28/12/2013 16:33
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] tape sticks?

Sounds like a takeup problem (the takeup spool stops turning, trigerring auto stop).

Most likely, the idler rubber tire has hardened and glazed, causing slippage.
Less likely (but still, possible), the reel motor has developed 'dead spots' (meaning,
it intermittently stops turning).

To diagnose, remove the cassette well cover plate. Press PLAY with no cassette in
the well. Grab the takup hub while looking at the brass pulley. if it still rotates before
the transport stops (in about 1 second), the problem is with the idler. If the pulley
stops as soon as you hold the hub, the problem is probably the reel motor.

The idler tire can be easily and cheaply replaced. The reel motor is expensive and
more difficult to replace.

Good luck,

-- Ron





On Friday, December 27, 2013 12:47 PM, Roger Staton <statonenterprise at netscape.net> wrote:

Hi,
>When playing cassettes on my Nakamichi CD1 the tape often stops and on inspecting the cassette a small loop of tape has been pulled out
>between plastic cut out on the right of the replay tape head cut out.
>can you suggest a reason for this please?
>
>Thank you
>
>Roger
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 28 19:44:10 2013
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 10:44:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] tape sticks?
In-Reply-To: <COL402-EAS296EBDE62B1845BD4681A79B6CC0@phx.gbl>
References: <COL402-EAS296EBDE62B1845BD4681A79B6CC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1388256250.51682.YahooMailNeo@web160204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Ooops... I stand corrected. If It has a gear idler, the problem is probably the motor. 

-- Ron





On Saturday, December 28, 2013 12:08 PM, Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
 
Ron, CD1 doesn't have an idler tire it has a gear so it could either be the reel motor or something else.
>
>Regards
>Nadeem
>
>Sent from my killer Windows Phone
>
>________________________________
> From: Ron
>Sent: 28/12/2013 16:33
>To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>Subject: Re: [naktalk] tape sticks?
>
>
>Sounds like a takeup problem (the takeup spool stops turning, trigerring auto stop). 
>
>Most likely, the idler rubber tire has hardened and glazed, causing slippage. 
>Less likely (but still, possible), the reel motor has developed 'dead spots' (meaning, 
>it intermittently stops turning).
>
>To diagnose, remove the cassette well cover plate. Press PLAY with no cassette in 
>the well. Grab the takup hub while looking at the brass pulley. if it still rotates before 
>the transport stops (in about 1 second), the problem is with the idler. If the pulley 
>stops as soon as you hold the hub, the problem is probably the reel motor.
>
>The idler tire can be easily and cheaply replaced. The reel motor is expensive and 
>more difficult to replace. 
>
>Good luck,
>
>-- Ron 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Friday, December 27, 2013 12:47 PM, Roger Staton <statonenterprise at netscape.net> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>>When playing cassettes on my Nakamichi CD1 the tape often stops and on inspecting the cassette a small loop of tape has been pulled out
>>between plastic cut out on the right of the replay tape head cut out.
>>can you suggest a reason for this please?
>>
>>Thank you
>>
>>Roger
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From paul.kellerman at sbcglobal.net  Sat Dec 28 23:45:03 2013
From: paul.kellerman at sbcglobal.net (Paul Kellerman)
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 14:45:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] tape sticks?
In-Reply-To: <1388256250.51682.YahooMailNeo@web160204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <COL402-EAS296EBDE62B1845BD4681A79B6CC0@phx.gbl>
	<1388256250.51682.YahooMailNeo@web160204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1388270703.83671.YahooMailNeo@web185006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

First try cleaning the commutator

 

________________________________
 From: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [naktalk] tape sticks?
  


Ooops... I stand corrected. If It has a gear idler, the problem is probably the motor. 

-- Ron




On Saturday, December 28, 2013 12:08 PM, Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
  
Ron, CD1 doesn't have an idler tire it has a gear so it could either be the reel motor or something else.
>
>Regards
>Nadeem
>
>Sent from my killer Windows Phone
>  
>
>________________________________
> From: Ron
>Sent: 28/12/2013 16:33
>To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>Subject: Re: [naktalk] tape sticks?
>
>
>Sounds like a takeup problem (the takeup spool stops turning, trigerring auto stop). 
>
>Most likely, the idler rubber tire has hardened and glazed, causing slippage. 
>Less likely (but still, possible), the reel motor has developed 'dead spots' (meaning, 
>it intermittently stops turning).
>
>To diagnose, remove the cassette well cover plate. Press PLAY with no cassette in 
>the well. Grab the takup hub while looking at the brass pulley. if it still rotates before 
>the transport stops (in about 1 second), the problem is with the idler. If the pulley 
>stops as soon as you hold the hub, the problem is probably the reel motor.
>
>The idler tire can be easily and cheaply replaced. The reel motor is expensive and 
>more difficult to replace. 
>
>Good luck,
>
>-- Ron 
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>On Friday, December 27, 2013 12:47 PM, Roger Staton <statonenterprise at netscape.net> wrote:
> 
>Hi,
>>When playing cassettes on my Nakamichi CD1 the tape often stops and on inspecting the cassette a small loop of tape has been pulled out
>>between plastic cut out on the right of the replay tape head cut out.
>>can you suggest a reason for this please?
>>
>>Thank you
>>
>>Roger
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From n.van.wijnen at gmail.com  Mon Dec 30 17:30:04 2013
From: n.van.wijnen at gmail.com (Norman van Wijnen)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 17:30:04 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi heads Sankyo transport
Message-ID: <CAD+uVVOEHxJLs4=3T5iJ5-yCk_-ubdDWynx26ATFaAh8C3CjjA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Guys,

I am working on a cassettedeck 1 and both the record and playback heads
where gone.
I think somebody did a cleaning operation with some sharp tools.
Is there anyone with a parts deck who wants to sell these ones?
I think the same heads where used inside a cassettedeck2 , cr3, cr4 ,
bx300, cr5, cr7 and the three heads DR serie.

Best regards to all

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From mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk  Mon Dec 30 18:36:48 2013
From: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk (Mercedes Benz)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 17:36:48 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi heads Sankyo transport
Message-ID: <SNT405-EAS30931D41673E425F4B4E5DDB6CE0@phx.gbl>

Cassette deck 2 is a 2 head deck.

Sent from my killer Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Norman van Wijnen
Sent: 30/12/2013 17:08
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi heads Sankyo transport

Hi Guys,

I am working on a cassettedeck 1 and both the record and playback heads
where gone.
I think somebody did a cleaning operation with some sharp tools.
Is there anyone with a parts deck who wants to sell these ones?
I think the same heads where used inside a cassettedeck2 , cr3, cr4 ,
bx300, cr5, cr7 and the three heads DR serie.

Best regards to all

Norman
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From martinferreira at hotmail.com  Tue Dec 31 17:59:19 2013
From: martinferreira at hotmail.com (martin ferreira)
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 16:59:19 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 recording issue
Message-ID: <BAY172-W20553AB26D886B6210E573DEC90@phx.gbl>

greetings fellow Nakers

my BX 300 was working fine but now it produces poor recoding quality. Playback on previously recoded tapes and monitoring are fine however. Is this a case of orange cap disease? If so which caps must be changed.
Many thanks and a happy new year

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From paolocipx at gmail.com  Fri Feb  8 10:07:23 2013
From: paolocipx at gmail.com (Paolo Cipollone)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 10:07:23 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Nak 680ZX
Message-ID: <CACqCBCTSQsueGqC1Gfn5W=CjYf7JfkG3W7rr4bT6Fj0d2WN3AA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I have a problem with my otherwise perfectly functioning and calibrated
680ZX.
Recently I have observed that in cal mode the readings die (i.e. go to
zero) after a few seconds' functioning. If I toggle between cal mode and
the other two display modes (which are perfect) I may be able to resurrect
the readings -not always. The 400 Hz tone is there, unaltered, and the Auto
Azimuth Alignment works fine. Any hints?

Thanks in advance,
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From paer.ericsson at blixtmail.se  Fri Feb  8 16:33:27 2013
From: paer.ericsson at blixtmail.se (=?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E4r_Ericsson?=)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 16:33:27 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Nak 680ZX
References: <CACqCBCTSQsueGqC1Gfn5W=CjYf7JfkG3W7rr4bT6Fj0d2WN3AA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F116588C22C84375B9FC20FD2BAAC411@superdator>

Hi!

If a fault comes and goes I always suspect orange caps (or caps in general). 

Regards Pelle.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paolo Cipollone 
  To: naktalk at naks.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:07 AM
  Subject: [naktalk] Nak 680ZX


  Hi all,


  I have a problem with my otherwise perfectly functioning and calibrated 680ZX. 
  Recently I have observed that in cal mode the readings die (i.e. go to zero) after a few seconds' functioning. If I toggle between cal mode and the other two display modes (which are perfect) I may be able to resurrect the readings -not always. The 400 Hz tone is there, unaltered, and the Auto Azimuth Alignment works fine. Any hints?


  Thanks in advance, 
  Paolo


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From willy at willyhermannservices.com  Fri Feb  8 17:47:23 2013
From: willy at willyhermannservices.com (Willy Hermann)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 08:47:23 -0800
Subject: [naktalk] Nak 680ZX
In-Reply-To: <CACqCBCTSQsueGqC1Gfn5W=CjYf7JfkG3W7rr4bT6Fj0d2WN3AA@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Paolo -
With the deck off toggle back and forth through the three meter settings
many times quickly.  This will likely solve the problem - at least
temporarily.  Those switch contacts begin to oxidize after a long period of
time and you rarely use that switch setting.
Best of luck.
Willy


On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Paolo Cipollone <paolocipx at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have a problem with my otherwise perfectly functioning and calibrated
> 680ZX.
> Recently I have observed that in cal mode the readings die (i.e. go to
> zero) after a few seconds' functioning. If I toggle between cal mode and
> the other two display modes (which are perfect) I may be able to resurrect
> the readings -not always. The 400 Hz tone is there, unaltered, and the Auto
> Azimuth Alignment works fine. Any hints?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Paolo
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From bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr  Sat Feb  9 08:00:53 2013
From: bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr (bb)
Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2013 08:00:53 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] 480Z assembled again but not...playing!
In-Reply-To: <510AD975.6090109@univ-rennes1.fr>
References: <BLU0-SMTP27697A23877202D34DF57D2861B0@phx.gbl>
	<51030EBE.9060104@univ-rennes1.fr>
	<510967C1.1060706@univ-rennes1.fr>
	<510AD975.6090109@univ-rennes1.fr>
Message-ID: <5115F425.508@univ-rennes1.fr>

Hi everybody,

Well, I have received the new 2SB564 and that's it! everything works 
beautifully.

The tuning of the CAM positions is a piece of cake once the control 
motor governor ok!
I have installed the shut-off sensor LED replacement, new rubbers 
including rollers, and calibrated the azimuth and the track as someone 
had played with it before...

Another Nak alive and kicking!

Thanks to all of you for your advice/suggestions

Have a nice week-end
Bernard

Le 31/01/2013 21:52, bb a écrit :
> Well, sorry to answer to myself!
>
> Here is the message that puts me back to search. It was coming from 
> Russell Storey to David, who was not able to rotate the CAM with power 
> on, on his 682-ZX:
>
> "2.With no power   see if  you can  rotate  cam wheel  freely by hand 
> to  make  heads and  both pinch rollers engage fully into the play mode
> 3.If yes , you have an  electronic problem on  mech - logic board 
>  control motor control  drive circuit"
>
> I think I finally found the "monster" (may be he is not alone).
> Referring to 482Z SM, I found after desoldering it, the attached 
> measurments on Q413 (2SB564) (I never got the "OL" indication I got 
> for the good ones).
> It is in the Control Motor Governor, isn't it?
>
> Does somebody know a common replacement for that PNP transistor?
>
> Any advice welcomed.
>
> Thanks
> Bernard

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From nak at lastresort.gb.com  Sat Feb  9 14:48:55 2013
From: nak at lastresort.gb.com (Andy Hayes)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 13:48:55 -0000
Subject: [naktalk] Re: 680ZX Paolo Cipollone 
References: <201302091103.r19B04cn018125@zxe.naks.com>
Message-ID: <0DAD00290EE7452FB3B44D0D5976811F@Z>



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Hi Paolo,
The problem with your 680ZX may (might be) a dirty switch.  It's always best 
to check for this first.
Switch the deck off then operate the switch that you were toggling quickly 
about 50 times.
Regards, Andy Hayes 



From kaupp240 at hotmail.com  Mon Feb 11 05:09:09 2013
From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com (Cheryl Kaupp)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 18:09:09 -1000
Subject: [naktalk] 480Z assembled again but not...playing!
In-Reply-To: <5115F425.508@univ-rennes1.fr>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP375845468154EFAA3FEB5CC860A0@phx.gbl>

Very cool! Where did you source the part?
 
Aloha,
Cheryl

  _____  

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of bb
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 9:01 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480Z assembled again but not...playing!


Hi everybody,

Well, I have received the new 2SB564 and that's it! everything works
beautifully.

The tuning of the CAM positions is a piece of cake once the control motor
governor ok!
I have installed the shut-off sensor LED replacement, new rubbers including
rollers, and calibrated the azimuth and the track as someone had played with
it before...

Another Nak alive and kicking!

Thanks to all of you for your advice/suggestions

Have a nice week-end
Bernard


 


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From bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr  Mon Feb 11 08:20:08 2013
From: bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr (bb)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 08:20:08 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] 480Z assembled again but not...playing!
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP375845468154EFAA3FEB5CC860A0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP375845468154EFAA3FEB5CC860A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <51189BA8.4000201@univ-rennes1.fr>

Hi Cheryl,

I got them at:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2SB564-NEC-SAMSUNG-SEMICONDUCTOR-/110912906872?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item19d2eca678#shId

It came with the TO92 package instead of TO126 package but seems ok.

Thanks again

Bernard

Le 11/02/2013 05:09, Cheryl Kaupp a écrit :
> Very cool! Where did you source the part?
> Aloha,
> Cheryl
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] *On 
> Behalf Of *bb
> *Sent:* Friday, February 08, 2013 9:01 PM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] 480Z assembled again but not...playing!
>
> Hi everybody,
>
> Well, I have received the new 2SB564 and that's it! everything works 
> beautifully.
>
> The tuning of the CAM positions is a piece of cake once the control 
> motor governor ok!
> I have installed the shut-off sensor LED replacement, new rubbers 
> including rollers, and calibrated the azimuth and the track as someone 
> had played with it before...
>
> Another Nak alive and kicking!
>
> Thanks to all of you for your advice/suggestions
>
> Have a nice week-end
> Bernard
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From graysonsmail at googlemail.com  Mon Feb 11 03:38:20 2013
From: graysonsmail at googlemail.com (Grayson)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 18:38:20 -0800
Subject: [naktalk] Rx505's for sale
Message-ID: <CADYzVz==Nq+HV6nZ7AMBq7He8kK+5Gvqe6rWbWV9UoRWUXN1wQ@mail.gmail.com>

I wanted to take this opportunity to let the members of this group know
that i'll shortly be making available for sale a small number of Rx505's
that were supplied by Bowers and Wilkins to Westside Music in Nottinghill,
West London. It is most likely that these will be re-belted, fully cleaned
and guage adjusted. Cosmetically they are very presentable indeed with only
minor scuffs commensurate with age. Because someone at Bowers threw them
away, there are no cassette covers. When selling these i would very much
prefer collection as it removes all doubt and suspicion for both parties,
however if someone is especially keen i would be prepared to use a
reputable courier to deliver a well packed up deck. Hopefully this will be
good news for some of the community who would wish to have one of these
quite remarkable machines in their collection. They do sound good. Daniel.
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From paolocipx at gmail.com  Mon Feb 11 09:32:37 2013
From: paolocipx at gmail.com (Paolo Cipollone)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:32:37 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Nak 680ZX cal mode problem
Message-ID: <CACqCBCQ1JOEhd8yBxjnvKuTHX1ZAvSS41O5-o0RMs5wmEtPbpQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Willy, Andy, Pelle,

thanks for you prompt replies, but I had already almost worn out the switch
:-).
I have repeatedly sprayed the switch with a pro 'dry contact cleaner' -I
don't have Deoxit.
It may well be that the cleaner is uneffective, but I suspect something
else, maybe Pelle is right.
Anyhow it should be, as in electronic equipment of this vintage, quite
common to other units. Any other 680ZX out there having the same behavior?

Thanks again,
Paolo
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From kaupp240 at hotmail.com  Mon Feb 11 18:54:54 2013
From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com (Cheryl Kaupp)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 07:54:54 -1000
Subject: [naktalk] 480Z assembled again but not...playing!
In-Reply-To: <51189BA8.4000201@univ-rennes1.fr>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP8719A69BCAEFD78951778F860A0@phx.gbl>

Thanks!
Cheryl

  _____  

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of bb
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 9:20 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480Z assembled again but not...playing!


Hi Cheryl,

I got them at:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2SB564-NEC-SAMSUNG-SEMICONDUCTOR-/110912906872?pt=UK
_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET
<http://www.ebay.com/itm/2SB564-NEC-SAMSUNG-SEMICONDUCTOR-/110912906872?pt=U
K_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item19d2eca678#shId>
&hash=item19d2eca678#shId

It came with the TO92 package instead of TO126 package but seems ok.

Thanks again

Bernard

Le 11/02/2013 05:09, Cheryl Kaupp a écrit :


Very cool! Where did you source the part?
 
Aloha,
Cheryl

 

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From mark8559 at hotmail.com  Mon Feb 11 19:25:31 2013
From: mark8559 at hotmail.com (Mark Exstedt)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 11:25:31 -0700
Subject: FW: [naktalk] Nak 680ZX cal mode problem
In-Reply-To: <CACqCBCQ1JOEhd8yBxjnvKuTHX1ZAvSS41O5-o0RMs5wmEtPbpQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACqCBCQ1JOEhd8yBxjnvKuTHX1ZAvSS41O5-o0RMs5wmEtPbpQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU168-W767475CAB786F1F6CA6BD1DB0A0@phx.gbl>



 It also helps to turn the deck upside down (and right side up / left side up) after spraying the switch. You may also leave the deck upside down overnight. All three of the ZX-7's I've owned had a dirty tape/source monitor switch. By doing this little by little over the course of weeks, the switch finally worked.Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:32:37 +0100
From: paolocipx at gmail.com
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] Nak 680ZX cal mode problem

Hi Willy, Andy, Pelle,
thanks for you prompt replies, but I had already almost worn out the switch :-). I have repeatedly sprayed the switch with a pro 'dry contact cleaner' -I don't have Deoxit.
It may well be that the cleaner is uneffective, but I suspect something else, maybe Pelle is right. Anyhow it should be, as in electronic equipment of this vintage, quite common to other units. Any other 680ZX out there having the same behavior? 

Thanks again,Paolo


 		 	   		  
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From paolocipx at gmail.com  Wed Feb 13 08:47:57 2013
From: paolocipx at gmail.com (Paolo Cipollone)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 08:47:57 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Nak 680ZX cal mode problem
Message-ID: <CACqCBCQsVo58mdujNVzhZBcEg4d8oQ4z0kpBgzkgQSO1+rzt4A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

no progress round here. I've exercised the switch about a thousand times
under all circumstances, spraying it with my contact cleaner countless
times. I let the deck rest upside down, as suggested, but to no avail. I
have actually observed a worsening of the problem. Bear in mind that last
time I used the deck, a few months ago, all was fine. I am quite surprised
that no other 680 owner has observed this defect.

While playing with the deck I have measured the -3dB point at 15/16 (metal
tape, eq. 120 microseconds, @ -20dB) and it's over 18 kHz!
Not bad, isn't it?

Waiting for any hint, and thanks,
Paolo
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From bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr  Wed Feb 13 14:51:58 2013
From: bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr (bb)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:51:58 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 DD PCB
Message-ID: <511B9A7E.1060503@univ-rennes1.fr>

Dear Naktalkers,

With the idea to (re)produce the DD PCB of ZX-9, I checked mine (right 
picture, p1 of the attached PDF file) and compare it with one I found on 
the net (left picture, p1).
As you can verify, on mine, C524 is lacking and has been "included" in 
C516. As a result, my C516 is a 2200 pF (2%) (see right picture , p2). 
Which type is it? is it still a PP cap ?

The advantage is that it is not an orange cap anymore, prone to fail and 
stop the capstans rotation...that' s a good point.

The second detail is the extra resistor (see left picture, p2) soldered 
between pin9 and pin14 of IC505 . Should I include it in the drawing of 
the new schematics ?

Could happy owners of ZX-9 check their DD board to verify if these "last 
minute" changes are common?

Finally, would you be interested in getting such a spare (new) PCB ?

Regards
bernard
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From willy at willyhermannservices.com  Wed Feb 13 19:16:35 2013
From: willy at willyhermannservices.com (Willy Hermann)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:16:35 -0800
Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 DD PCB
In-Reply-To: <511B9A7E.1060503@univ-rennes1.fr>
References: <511B9A7E.1060503@univ-rennes1.fr>
Message-ID: <CAM9V8McsrGx2Wiyv_vSb5G0+nTP58byM8NNrndtk-UE5QbHxdg@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, those changes are common.  The board was set up for two caps in
parallel - maybe to derive higher accuracy?  I have removed the two orange
drop caps and replaced them with a 2200pf PP.  The resistor is on every
board I've seen so far - usually scabbed on the trace side.
If you're going to go through the trouble of making a new board do if for
the Dragon instead.  I've come across many Dragon DD boards which were
cracked when the transport mounts gave way.  Better yet, redesign it
dropping the 3.088MHz oscillator and divider circuitry and replace that
with an FPGA or CPLD.  Still use the same FG servo and power amps.  Much
simpler and more reliable but won't change the sound of the decks at all.
Thanks for the effort.
Willy


On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 5:51 AM, bb <bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr> wrote:

> Dear Naktalkers,
>
> With the idea to (re)produce the DD PCB of ZX-9, I checked mine (right
> picture, p1 of the attached PDF file) and compare it with one I found on
> the net (left picture, p1).
> As you can verify, on mine, C524 is lacking and has been "included" in
> C516. As a result, my C516 is a 2200 pF (2%) (see right picture , p2).
> Which type is it? is it still a PP cap ?
>
> The advantage is that it is not an orange cap anymore, prone to fail and
> stop the capstans rotation...that' s a good point.
>
> The second detail is the extra resistor (see left picture, p2) soldered
> between pin9 and pin14 of IC505 . Should I include it in the drawing of the
> new schematics ?
>
> Could happy owners of ZX-9 check their DD board to verify if these "last
> minute" changes are common?
>
> Finally, would you be interested in getting such a spare (new) PCB ?
>
> Regards
> bernard
>
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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From bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr  Thu Feb 14 08:31:06 2013
From: bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr (bb)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 08:31:06 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 DD PCB
In-Reply-To: <CAM9V8McsrGx2Wiyv_vSb5G0+nTP58byM8NNrndtk-UE5QbHxdg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <511B9A7E.1060503@univ-rennes1.fr>
	<CAM9V8McsrGx2Wiyv_vSb5G0+nTP58byM8NNrndtk-UE5QbHxdg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <511C92BA.8010801@univ-rennes1.fr>

Willy,

Thanks's a lot for the suggestion and I would go for it if:

- I had in hand the original PCB or a scale-1 drawing of the PCB, or at 
least the correct dimensions of the board with the exclusion areas
- I had some help from a professionnal for the swapping you mentionned 
(please, remember I do not know much in electronics...)

However, before to start, we need to evaluate how much people would be 
interested in such DD boards (either for ZX-9 or Dragon), and teh ZX-9 
could be a starting point.

Have a nice day
bernard

Le 13/02/2013 19:16, Willy Hermann a écrit :
> Yes, those changes are common.  The board was set up for two caps in 
> parallel - maybe to derive higher accuracy?  I have removed the two 
> orange drop caps and replaced them with a 2200pf PP.  The resistor is 
> on every board I've seen so far - usually scabbed on the trace side.
> If you're going to go through the trouble of making a new board do if 
> for the Dragon instead.  I've come across many Dragon DD boards which 
> were cracked when the transport mounts gave way.  Better yet, redesign 
> it dropping the 3.088MHz oscillator and divider circuitry and replace 
> that with an FPGA or CPLD.  Still use the same FG servo and power 
> amps.  Much simpler and more reliable but won't change the sound of 
> the decks at all.
> Thanks for the effort.
> Willy
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 5:51 AM, bb <bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr 
> <mailto:bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr>> wrote:
>
>     Dear Naktalkers,
>
>     With the idea to (re)produce the DD PCB of ZX-9, I checked mine
>     (right picture, p1 of the attached PDF file) and compare it with
>     one I found on the net (left picture, p1).
>     As you can verify, on mine, C524 is lacking and has been
>     "included" in C516. As a result, my C516 is a 2200 pF (2%) (see
>     right picture , p2). Which type is it? is it still a PP cap ?
>
>     The advantage is that it is not an orange cap anymore, prone to
>     fail and stop the capstans rotation...that' s a good point.
>
>     The second detail is the extra resistor (see left picture, p2)
>     soldered between pin9 and pin14 of IC505 . Should I include it in
>     the drawing of the new schematics ?
>
>     Could happy owners of ZX-9 check their DD board to verify if these
>     "last minute" changes are common?
>
>     Finally, would you be interested in getting such a spare (new) PCB ?
>
>     Regards
>     bernard
>
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From perry.nak at comcast.net  Thu Feb 14 13:02:29 2013
From: perry.nak at comcast.net (perry.nak at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:02:29 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 DD board
Message-ID: <134486977-1360843350-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1399231410-@b18.c16.bise6.blackberry>

Same as Willy, resistor added on, and always replaced the parallel caps with a single 2200. I had assumed that they used the 2 in parallel to tune the final value, or deal with some harmonic since they specifically used only one orange cap in the pair. Personally, I've not had any reasons to need a new ZX-9 board, that would be the same as the old, though. I like Willys suggestion, since all Dragons run a bit fast, but it would be tough to incorporate that, and still allow fine tuning of the differential capstan speeds, wouldn't it, without a huge redesign? It would be easier (relatively) to redesign the ZX-9 board and put an adjustable crystal locked reference on the DD motor since you only design for one capstan and direction, and THAT board I would buy a few of, since the speed regulation of the ZX-9 is so poor, for a DD unit.
Perry Esposito - From my phone


From joyell.solie at sasktel.net  Thu Feb 14 14:25:42 2013
From: joyell.solie at sasktel.net (Rainer & Joy-Ell)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 07:25:42 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 DD PCB
References: <511B9A7E.1060503@univ-rennes1.fr><CAM9V8McsrGx2Wiyv_vSb5G0+nTP58byM8NNrndtk-UE5QbHxdg@mail.gmail.com>
	<511C92BA.8010801@univ-rennes1.fr>
Message-ID: <8C4BC28C708247B0A5CABD2C471A4003@owner66fc96eb0>

Bernard, I would take a Zx-9 board if it was modified how Perry suggested.

Cheers,
Rainer
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: bb 
  To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
  Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 1:31 AM
  Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-9 DD PCB


  Willy,

  Thanks's a lot for the suggestion and I would go for it if:

  - I had in hand the original PCB or a scale-1 drawing of the PCB, or at least the correct dimensions of the board with the exclusion areas
  - I had some help from a professionnal for the swapping you mentionned (please, remember I do not know much in electronics...)

  However, before to start, we need to evaluate how much people would be interested in such DD boards (either for ZX-9 or Dragon), and teh ZX-9 could be a starting point.

  Have a nice day
  bernard

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From wheijke at xs4all.nl  Thu Feb 14 14:54:50 2013
From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:54:50 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 DD board
In-Reply-To: <134486977-1360843350-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1399231410-
	@b18.c16.bise6.blackberry>
References: <134486977-1360843350-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1399231410-@b18.c16.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <e5260316626cea8d9e0cf43ea5bac20a.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>

+1 for the 'Perry' board.

> It would be easier
> (relatively) to redesign the ZX-9 board and put an adjustable crystal
> locked reference on the DD motor since you only design for one capstan and
> direction, and THAT board I would buy a few of, since the speed regulation
> of the ZX-9 is so poor, for a DD unit.
> Perry Esposito - From my phone





From bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr  Fri Feb 15 08:37:17 2013
From: bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr (bb)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 08:37:17 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 DD board
In-Reply-To: <134486977-1360843350-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1399231410-@b18.c16.bise6.blackberry>
References: <134486977-1360843350-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1399231410-@b18.c16.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <511DE5AD.4040709@univ-rennes1.fr>

Perry, that is a very good suggestion as well.
However, if I can do the job with the correct software (Protel DXP, 
compatible with Protel SE99) and prepare the various data/files ready 
for board insulation, I am definitely unable to conceive such an upgrade!!!
So, I will first create the files (I may be a little bit slow) 
reproducing the original board, and then I will need someone to first 
take a look at them and second to conceive/integrate the quartz-locked 
circuit, at least from the schematics.

That would be nice to produce such a board : Is there someone ready to help?

bernard


From ken.crum at sbcglobal.net  Fri Feb 15 19:04:32 2013
From: ken.crum at sbcglobal.net (ken.crum)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 12:04:32 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] Nak 700ZXE
Message-ID: <v1l8jcuni48p14gqbwgaeo68.1360949648386@email.android.com>

Newbie here.  Just purchased my first Nak - a 700ZXE and I am thoroughly impressed!
A few questions: 1) this deck does not auto calibrate for PLAY BACK - <---- is this correct?
2) When side one of a cassette finishes playing, after a few seconds I can very faintly hear music from the other side - EXTREMELY FAINT.  Does this mean the playnack head needs adjustment OR is it due to cheap construction of mass produced pre-recorded cassettes?

Thanks for any responses or thoughts.

I am truly truly impressed with this deck - even with Dolby NR turned you hear no tape hiss!!

What Nak cassette decks AUTOCALIBRATE for both PLAY and RECORD?  Is it only the Dragon?

Thanks

Ken




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From ken.crum at sbcglobal.net  Fri Feb 15 19:06:21 2013
From: ken.crum at sbcglobal.net (ken.crum)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 12:06:21 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] NAK Remote Wanted
Message-ID: <ftxd1kfnurm72w0erfrs64ey.1360951581968@email.android.com>


Wanting to buy a Nak RM 200 remote.  Can pay via paypal.

Thanks

Ken



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From gerhard.wartha at gmail.com  Fri Feb 15 23:24:33 2013
From: gerhard.wartha at gmail.com (Gerhard Wartha)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 23:24:33 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Nak 700ZXE
In-Reply-To: <v1l8jcuni48p14gqbwgaeo68.1360949648386@email.android.com>
References: <v1l8jcuni48p14gqbwgaeo68.1360949648386@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <514C2848-D65F-4568-BAE3-6320927FA34E@gmail.com>

1,  ZXE does auto calibrate  recordings. Dragon does set the  record  
Azimuth automatically, record calibration is manual.
     Dragon does automatically  correct Play Back Azimuth in both  
directions. No calibration on Playback. Equalization  must be set  
manual.
    Dragon recordings can be made in one direction only.

2, I  think it can be  the pre-recorded cassette, best way to check  
that is to use old self recorded cassettes .
   And some of this cheap  pre-recorded cassettes tape, if they are  
made in the  1970´s, are  not god  to  the heads.

Gerhard
Am 15.02.2013 um 19:04 schrieb ken.crum:

> Newbie here.  Just purchased my first Nak - a 700ZXE and I am  
> thoroughly impressed!
> A few questions: 1) this deck does not auto calibrate for PLAY BACK  
> - <---- is this correct?
> 2) When side one of a cassette finishes playing, after a few  
> seconds I can very faintly hear music from the other side -  
> EXTREMELY FAINT.  Does this mean the playnack head needs adjustment  
> OR is it due to cheap construction of mass produced pre-recorded  
> cassettes?
>
> Thanks for any responses or thoughts.
>
> I am truly truly impressed with this deck - even with Dolby NR  
> turned you hear no tape hiss!!
>
> What Nak cassette decks AUTOCALIBRATE for both PLAY and RECORD?  Is  
> it only the Dragon?
>
> Thanks
>
> Ken
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Samsung tablet
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From the1andonlypieper at hotmail.com  Fri Feb 15 23:57:40 2013
From: the1andonlypieper at hotmail.com (pieter rodgers)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 23:57:40 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Nak 700ZXE
In-Reply-To: <514C2848-D65F-4568-BAE3-6320927FA34E@gmail.com>
References: <v1l8jcuni48p14gqbwgaeo68.1360949648386@email.android.com>,
	<514C2848-D65F-4568-BAE3-6320927FA34E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DUB002-W86742A8334DC97827625DDE30E0@phx.gbl>

I was impressed also with my zx-9 compared to what I used to have.. (pioneer...)enjoy the music ;) Pieter..
From: gerhard.wartha at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nak 700ZXE
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 23:24:33 +0100
To: naktalk at naks.com


1,  ZXE does auto calibrate  recordings. Dragon does set the  record Azimuth automatically, record calibration is manual.    Dragon does automatically  correct Play Back Azimuth in both directions. No calibration on Playback. Equalization  must be set manual.   Dragon recordings can be made in one direction only.
2, I  think it can be  the pre-recorded cassette, best way to check that is to use old self recorded cassettes .  And some of this cheap  pre-recorded cassettes tape, if they are made in the  1970´s, are  not god  to  the heads.
Gerhard
Am 15.02.2013 um 19:04 schrieb ken.crum:Newbie here.  Just purchased my first Nak - a 700ZXE and I am thoroughly impressed!A few questions: 1) this deck does not auto calibrate for PLAY BACK - <---- is this correct?2) When side one of a cassette finishes playing, after a few seconds I can very faintly hear music from the other side - EXTREMELY FAINT.  Does this mean the playnack head needs adjustment OR is it due to cheap construction of mass produced pre-recorded cassettes?
Thanks for any responses or thoughts.
I am truly truly impressed with this deck - even with Dolby NR turned you hear no tape hiss!!
What Nak cassette decks AUTOCALIBRATE for both PLAY and RECORD?  Is it only the Dragon?
Thanks
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From: kslwinter at gmail.com (Scott Winter)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:18:47 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] NAK Remote Wanted
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Hi-

 

I sold one a little while ago, but I have an RC-2 and RC-3 new-in-the-box if anyone is interested-

Scott

 

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Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 1:06 PM
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Wanting to buy a Nak RM 200 remote.  Can pay via paypal.

 

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From shantiram2000 at yahoo.com  Sat Feb 16 00:51:26 2013
From: shantiram2000 at yahoo.com (shanti ramachandran)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:51:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] Nak 700ZXE
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Gerhard and Ken,

1.The Dragon does not do record head azimuth alignment automatically or manually. The Dragon's record head is fixed. Period.
2. Dragon does auto playback head alignment ( this it does continuously even after the green/red blinkers go off in @ 10-12 seconds). Dragon also is a manually calibratable deck for bias and level.
3. Prerecorded tapes can have the reverse side noise at times. Test by using a good quality tape recorded on a well calibrated machine.
4. There is no Nak that adjusts record and playback azimuth. it is either/or. The reason for this is to set a reference head. If both are floaters the azimuth adjustment exercise  is a moot job to do. With ether of the heads being a reference point ( meaning that head is perfectly aligned to specs) slightly rotating the other head( the floater) accomplishes resolution of the higher frequencies well.

Hope that clears some misconceptions in azimuth adjustment in tape recorders.( especially Naks)

Enjoy your ZXE Ken.

Ram.





________________________________
 From: Gerhard Wartha <gerhard.wartha at gmail.com>
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nak 700ZXE
 

1,  ZXE does auto calibrate  recordings. Dragon does set the  record Azimuth automatically, record calibration is manual.
    Dragon does automatically  correct Play Back Azimuth in both directions. No calibration on Playback. Equalization  must be set manual.
   Dragon recordings can be made in one direction only.
2, I  think it can be  the pre-recorded cassette, best way to check that is to use old self recorded cassettes .
  And some of this cheap  pre-recorded cassettes tape, if they are made in the  1970´s, are  not god  to  the heads.

Gerhard

Am 15.02.2013 um 19:04 schrieb ken.crum:

Newbie here.  Just purchased my first Nak - a 700ZXE and I am thoroughly impressed!
>A few questions: 1) this deck does not auto calibrate for PLAY BACK - <---- is this correct?
>2) When side one of a cassette finishes playing, after a few seconds I can very faintly hear music from the other side - EXTREMELY FAINT.  Does this mean the playnack head needs adjustment OR is it due to cheap construction of mass produced pre-recorded cassettes?
>
>
>Thanks for any responses or thoughts.
>
>
>I am truly truly impressed with this deck - even with Dolby NR turned you hear no tape hiss!!
>
>
>What Nak cassette decks AUTOCALIBRATE for both PLAY and RECORD?  Is it only the Dragon?
>
>
>Thanks
>
>
>Ken
>
>
>
>
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From gerhard.wartha at gmail.com  Sat Feb 16 08:59:33 2013
From: gerhard.wartha at gmail.com (Gerhard Wartha)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 08:59:33 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Nak 700ZXE
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1990 i went to the best Audio shop in Vienna/Austria.
"I said" I would like the best new Cassette Deck  money can buy "
They gave me a AKAI GX-95, it was heavy and quit expressive.

After a long pause to 2005 this Deck was not working anymore.
  I started to fix it.
And I did buy a NAK 582  in US for 90$.

That  582  started  me to listen  analogue again.
I did buy  the music on  Record LP in did get rite of  all CD´s very  
fast.

582 was a different world of sound, Cassette did work as a real copy  
from record LP.

And it was luck, because of Ebay it did no matter   what year it was.

There are  even better Decks made in the 1970ies, but still like new  
on Ebay.

; ""It is hard to find  the  better chair,
and how easy to find the newest""
			(Adolf Loos  )



G
Am 15.02.2013 um 23:57 schrieb pieter rodgers:

> I was impressed also with my zx-9 compared to what I used to have..  
> (pioneer...)
> enjoy the music ;)
>
> Pieter..
>
> From: gerhard.wartha at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nak 700ZXE
> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 23:24:33 +0100
> To: naktalk at naks.com
>
> 1,  ZXE does auto calibrate  recordings. Dragon does set the   
> record Azimuth automatically, record calibration is manual.
>     Dragon does automatically  correct Play Back Azimuth in both  
> directions. No calibration on Playback. Equalization  must be set  
> manual.
>    Dragon recordings can be made in one direction only.
>
> 2, I  think it can be  the pre-recorded cassette, best way to check  
> that is to use old self recorded cassettes .
>   And some of this cheap  pre-recorded cassettes tape, if they are  
> made in the  1970´s, are  not god  to  the heads.
>
> Gerhard
> Am 15.02.2013 um 19:04 schrieb ken.crum:
>
> Newbie here.  Just purchased my first Nak - a 700ZXE and I am  
> thoroughly impressed!
> A few questions: 1) this deck does not auto calibrate for PLAY BACK  
> - <---- is this correct?
> 2) When side one of a cassette finishes playing, after a few  
> seconds I can very faintly hear music from the other side -  
> EXTREMELY FAINT.  Does this mean the playnack head needs adjustment  
> OR is it due to cheap construction of mass produced pre-recorded  
> cassettes?
>
> Thanks for any responses or thoughts.
>
> I am truly truly impressed with this deck - even with Dolby NR  
> turned you hear no tape hiss!!
>
> What Nak cassette decks AUTOCALIBRATE for both PLAY and RECORD?  Is  
> it only the Dragon?
>
> Thanks
>
> Ken
>
>
>
>
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From gerhard.wartha at gmail.com  Sat Feb 16 12:49:39 2013
From: gerhard.wartha at gmail.com (Gerhard Wartha)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 12:49:39 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Nak 700ZXE
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Yes  Ram, and sorry !
I was thinking on the black Box on the back from transport, and  
mixed  up the Decks.

As Dragon uses the same Box but for  the playback Azimuth.
You are right.
  I  prefer  to make  the recordings with ZX-9 or ZXL,

G


Am 16.02.2013 um 00:51 schrieb shanti ramachandran:

> Gerhard and Ken,
>
> 1.The Dragon does not do record head azimuth alignment  
> automatically or manually. The Dragon's record head is fixed. Period.
> 2. Dragon does auto playback head alignment ( this it does  
> continuously even after the green/red blinkers go off in @ 10-12  
> seconds). Dragon also is a manually calibratable deck for bias and  
> level.
> 3. Prerecorded tapes can have the reverse side noise at times. Test  
> by using a good quality tape recorded on a well calibrated machine.
> 4. There is no Nak that adjusts record and playback azimuth. it is  
> either/or. The reason for this is to set a reference head. If both  
> are floaters the azimuth adjustment exercise  is a moot job to do.  
> With ether of the heads being a reference point ( meaning that head  
> is perfectly aligned to specs) slightly rotating the other head 
> ( the floater) accomplishes resolution of the higher frequencies well.
>
> Hope that clears some misconceptions in azimuth adjustment in tape  
> recorders.( especially Naks)
>
> Enjoy your ZXE Ken.
>
> Ram.
>
>
>
>
> From: Gerhard Wartha <gerhard.wartha at gmail.com>
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 5:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nak 700ZXE
>
> 1,  ZXE does auto calibrate  recordings. Dragon does set the   
> record Azimuth automatically, record calibration is manual.
>     Dragon does automatically  correct Play Back Azimuth in both  
> directions. No calibration on Playback. Equalization  must be set  
> manual.
>    Dragon recordings can be made in one direction only.
>
> 2, I  think it can be  the pre-recorded cassette, best way to check  
> that is to use old self recorded cassettes .
>   And some of this cheap  pre-recorded cassettes tape, if they are  
> made in the  1970´s, are  not god  to  the heads.
>
> Gerhard
> Am 15.02.2013 um 19:04 schrieb ken.crum:
>
>> Newbie here.  Just purchased my first Nak - a 700ZXE and I am  
>> thoroughly impressed!
>> A few questions: 1) this deck does not auto calibrate for PLAY  
>> BACK - <---- is this correct?
>> 2) When side one of a cassette finishes playing, after a few  
>> seconds I can very faintly hear music from the other side -  
>> EXTREMELY FAINT.  Does this mean the playnack head needs  
>> adjustment OR is it due to cheap construction of mass produced pre- 
>> recorded cassettes?
>>
>> Thanks for any responses or thoughts.
>>
>> I am truly truly impressed with this deck - even with Dolby NR  
>> turned you hear no tape hiss!!
>>
>> What Nak cassette decks AUTOCALIBRATE for both PLAY and RECORD?   
>> Is it only the Dragon?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Samsung tablet
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From shantiram2000 at yahoo.com  Sat Feb 16 15:37:24 2013
From: shantiram2000 at yahoo.com (shanti ramachandran)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 06:37:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] Nak 700ZXE
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No sorries Gerhard. I learn everyday too.

Enjoy your Naks.

Ram.


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 From: Gerhard Wartha <gerhard.wartha at gmail.com>
To: shanti ramachandran <shantiram2000 at yahoo.com>; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nak 700ZXE
 

Yes  Ram, and sorry !
I was thinking on the black Box on the back from transport, and mixed  up the Decks.

As Dragon uses the same Box but for  the playback Azimuth.
You are right.
 I  prefer  to make  the recordings with ZX-9 or ZXL,  

G



Am 16.02.2013 um 00:51 schrieb shanti ramachandran:

Gerhard and Ken,
>
>
>1.The Dragon does not do record head azimuth alignment automatically or manually. The Dragon's record head is fixed. Period.
>2. Dragon does auto playback head alignment ( this it does continuously even after the green/red blinkers go off in @ 10-12 seconds). Dragon also is a manually calibratable deck for bias and level.
>3. Prerecorded tapes can have the reverse side noise at times. Test by using a good quality tape recorded on a well calibrated machine.
>4. There is no Nak that adjusts record and playback azimuth. it is either/or. The reason for this is to set a reference head. If both are floaters the azimuth adjustment exercise  is a moot job to do. With ether of the heads being a reference point ( meaning that head is perfectly aligned to specs) slightly rotating the other head( the floater) accomplishes resolution of the higher frequencies well.
>
>
>Hope that clears some misconceptions in azimuth adjustment in tape recorders.( especially Naks)
>
>
>Enjoy your ZXE Ken.
>
>
>Ram.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Gerhard Wartha <gerhard.wartha at gmail.com>
>To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
>Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 5:24 PM
>Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nak 700ZXE
> 
>
>1,  ZXE does auto calibrate  recordings. Dragon does set the  record Azimuth automatically, record calibration is manual.
>    Dragon does automatically  correct Play Back Azimuth in both directions. No calibration on Playback. Equalization  must be set manual.
>   Dragon recordings can be made in one direction only.
>
>2, I  think it can be  the pre-recorded cassette, best way to check that is to use old self recorded cassettes .
>  And some of this cheap  pre-recorded cassettes tape, if they are made in the  1970´s, are  not god  to  the heads.
>
>
>Gerhard
>
>Am 15.02.2013 um 19:04 schrieb ken.crum:
>
>Newbie here.  Just purchased my first Nak - a 700ZXE and I am thoroughly impressed!
>>A few questions: 1) this deck does not auto calibrate for PLAY BACK - <---- is this correct?
>>2) When side one of a cassette finishes playing, after a few seconds I can very faintly hear music from the other side - EXTREMELY FAINT.  Does this mean the playnack head needs adjustment OR is it due to cheap construction of mass produced pre-recorded cassettes?
>>
>>
>>Thanks for any responses or thoughts.
>>
>>
>>I am truly truly impressed with this deck - even with Dolby NR turned you hear no tape hiss!!
>>
>>
>>What Nak cassette decks AUTOCALIBRATE for both PLAY and RECORD?  Is it only the Dragon?
>>
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>
>>Ken
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Sent from Samsung tablet 
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From kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com  Sat Feb 16 19:19:51 2013
From: kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com (kannan srinivasaraghavan)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 10:19:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] NAK Remote Wanted
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I hav a RM 200 new in the box costs somemoney of anybody interested
kannan

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From: Scott Winter <kslwinter at gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] NAK Remote Wanted
To: "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" <naktalk at naks.com>
Date: Friday, February 15, 2013, 6:18 PM







Hi-
 
I sold one a little while ago, but I have an RC-2 and RC-3 new-in-the-box if anyone is interested-
Scott
 


From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of ken.crum
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 1:06 PM
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Wanting to buy a Nak RM 200 remote.  Can pay via paypal.

 

Thanks

 

Ken



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From frnswrth at telus.net  Sun Feb 17 17:11:33 2013
From: frnswrth at telus.net (Rod Farnsworth)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 08:11:33 -0800
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 582 - need main pcb
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I acquired a  582 recently from a local electronics recycling bin and all
seemed good with this cosmetically good cassette deck. It plays ok but
decided to open it up before going any futher with an assessment. Well,
damn it, someone had drilled though the botton onto the main pcb and broke
the board around one channel tape select EQ circuit. It's too badly damaged
to restore the pcb. A sub board could be made to reconstruct the cct. but I
don't have the energy to do that and i Is it worth the time? The heads look
fine and the transport seems good.

I would love to restore this deck to its proper state so does anyone have a
main PCB for a 582 to sell me?  It is worth fixing?

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From gerhard.wartha at gmail.com  Sun Feb 17 18:06:54 2013
From: gerhard.wartha at gmail.com (Gerhard Wartha)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 18:06:54 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 582 - need main pcb
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Hi, Rod,

I would need a  part from a transport, thats way  I'm thinking from  
what Deck I can take it.

If you make me a offer you can get a very nice main PCB or better the  
Deck without the transport and transformer.

It is safer and less work than  parting out the main PCB.

  Shipping will be with safe packing, air mail, it  takes 12 days  
from europe, and will cost 60$ for the Deck.
40$.- for the main PCB, if packet is less than 4kg.

G


Am 17.02.2013 um 17:11 schrieb Rod Farnsworth:

> I acquired a  582 recently from a local electronics recycling bin  
> and all seemed good with this cosmetically good cassette deck. It  
> plays ok but decided to open it up before going any futher with an  
> assessment. Well, damn it, someone had drilled though the botton  
> onto the main pcb and broke the board around one channel tape  
> select EQ circuit. It's too badly damaged to restore the pcb. A sub  
> board could be made to reconstruct the cct. but I don't have the  
> energy to do that and i Is it worth the time? The heads look fine  
> and the transport seems good.
>
> I would love to restore this deck to its proper state so does  
> anyone have a main PCB for a 582 to sell me?  It is worth fixing?
>
> Rod
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 17 18:35:32 2013
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 09:35:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 582 - need main pcb
In-Reply-To: <CAHs-VfxnByoeNffRaLqhd_SXF0QLCpSc+4ujArXy8nixe_9z-g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHs-VfxnByoeNffRaLqhd_SXF0QLCpSc+4ujArXy8nixe_9z-g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1361122532.20292.YahooMailNeo@web160202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>


I like the 582, so this is my own personal opinion. YMMV... 

Repairing the PCB -- possibly, assisted by a small perf board -- can be 
challenging, but (again, to me) worth it. 

I doubt a good PBC will be worth the money any seller would be likely to 
ask for, assuming you'll even be able to locate one for sale. 

-- Ron






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> From: Rod Farnsworth <frnswrth at telus.net>
>To: naktalk at naks.com 
>Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 11:11 AM
>Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 582 - need main pcb
> 
>
>I acquired a  582 recently from a local electronics recycling bin and all seemed good with this cosmetically good cassette deck. It plays ok but decided to open it up before going any futher with an assessment. Well, damn it, someone had drilled though the botton onto the main pcb and broke the board around one channel tape select EQ circuit. It's too badly damaged to restore the pcb. A sub board could be made to reconstruct the cct. but I don't have the energy to do that and i Is it worth the time? The heads look fine and the transport seems good.
>
>
>I would love to restore this deck to its proper state so does anyone have a main PCB for a 582 to sell me?  It is worth fixing?
>
>
>Rod
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From n.van.wijnen at gmail.com  Sun Feb 17 20:35:06 2013
From: n.van.wijnen at gmail.com (n.van.wijnen at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 20:35:06 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Prices for shipment of belts
Message-ID: <8F9C1278-CCC9-4858-ACF5-A9DEC11367E2@gmail.com>

Hi all,

I can see on ebay that the shipping cost for sending belts from Fred Marrs to the Netherlands will cost me 24 dollar. Does shipping cost becomes a part of the profit these days?

Best regards 

Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad


From willy at willyhermannservices.com  Sun Feb 17 21:17:04 2013
From: willy at willyhermannservices.com (Willy Hermann)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 12:17:04 -0800
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 582 - need main pcb
In-Reply-To: <CAHs-VfxnByoeNffRaLqhd_SXF0QLCpSc+4ujArXy8nixe_9z-g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHs-VfxnByoeNffRaLqhd_SXF0QLCpSc+4ujArXy8nixe_9z-g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM9V8MeEPHn7z2_6eSHVGfwt18M3VqaHQyySe8oryOG3_uKw_w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Rod -
Yes, I probably have that board for you.  Contact me off NakTalk at
willy at willyhs.com.
Willy


On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Rod Farnsworth <frnswrth at telus.net> wrote:

> I acquired a  582 recently from a local electronics recycling bin and all
> seemed good with this cosmetically good cassette deck. It plays ok but
> decided to open it up before going any futher with an assessment. Well,
> damn it, someone had drilled though the botton onto the main pcb and broke
> the board around one channel tape select EQ circuit. It's too badly damaged
> to restore the pcb. A sub board could be made to reconstruct the cct. but I
> don't have the energy to do that and i Is it worth the time? The heads look
> fine and the transport seems good.
>
> I would love to restore this deck to its proper state so does anyone have
> a main PCB for a 582 to sell me?  It is worth fixing?
>
> Rod
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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 17 21:38:05 2013
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 06:38:05 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 582 - need main pcb
In-Reply-To: <CAHs-VfxnByoeNffRaLqhd_SXF0QLCpSc+4ujArXy8nixe_9z-g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHs-VfxnByoeNffRaLqhd_SXF0QLCpSc+4ujArXy8nixe_9z-g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1F3BAA60-9314-4116-B33C-25113B72FAE0@yahoo.com>

Hi Rod, 

How bad is the damage? Can you post some pictures? There have been a number of instances where the PCB has been repaired and if a spare board can't be found, then perhaps this could be an option. 

Cheers! 


Sent from my iPad

On 18 Feb, 2013, at 2:11 AM, Rod Farnsworth <frnswrth at telus.net> wrote:

> I acquired a  582 recently from a local electronics recycling bin and all seemed good with this cosmetically good cassette deck. It plays ok but decided to open it up before going any futher with an assessment. Well, damn it, someone had drilled though the botton onto the main pcb and broke the board around one channel tape select EQ circuit. It's too badly damaged to restore the pcb. A sub board could be made to reconstruct the cct. but I don't have the energy to do that and i Is it worth the time? The heads look fine and the transport seems good.
> 
> I would love to restore this deck to its proper state so does anyone have a main PCB for a 582 to sell me?  It is worth fixing?
> 
> Rod
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From willy at willyhermannservices.com  Sun Feb 17 21:52:58 2013
From: willy at willyhermannservices.com (Willy Hermann)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 12:52:58 -0800
Subject: [naktalk] Prices for shipment of belts
In-Reply-To: <8F9C1278-CCC9-4858-ACF5-A9DEC11367E2@gmail.com>
References: <8F9C1278-CCC9-4858-ACF5-A9DEC11367E2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM9V8MfmVO-O+G76=xu27VOZk-kKmeNF-cMH0C8ORRGyk5FnmA@mail.gmail.com>

My observations with no ax to grind since I do very little international
shipping:  The changes in the US Postal Service since the first of the
month have made postage go up dramatically and international service become
much more of a hassle for the shipper.  Unfortunately, I don't think you're
looking at a gross price gouge here given the current rules.  Maybe we
should just let the post office go bankrupt.
Willy


On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 11:35 AM, <n.van.wijnen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I can see on ebay that the shipping cost for sending belts from Fred Marrs
> to the Netherlands will cost me 24 dollar. Does shipping cost becomes a
> part of the profit these days?
>
> Best regards
>
> Norman
>
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From wheijke at xs4all.nl  Sun Feb 17 22:14:55 2013
From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 22:14:55 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Prices for shipment of belts
In-Reply-To: <8F9C1278-CCC9-4858-ACF5-A9DEC11367E2@gmail.com>
References: <8F9C1278-CCC9-4858-ACF5-A9DEC11367E2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4696e62e19020639ca842b583e117111.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>

Yeah that's the standard insane price for anything shipped with "USPS
Priority Mail International Flat Rate EnvelopeTM"

what is more econimically is:

"USPS First Class Mail Intl / First Class Package Intl Service"

Then it should be around $5 to The Netherlands is my experience.

Wouter



> Hi all,
>
> I can see on ebay that the shipping cost for sending belts from Fred Marrs
> to the Netherlands will cost me 24 dollar. Does shipping cost becomes a
> part of the profit these days?
>
> Best regards
>
> Norman
>
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From n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl  Sun Feb 17 23:47:52 2013
From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl (Ziggo)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 23:47:52 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Prices for shipment of belts
In-Reply-To: <CAM9V8MfmVO-O+G76=xu27VOZk-kKmeNF-cMH0C8ORRGyk5FnmA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8F9C1278-CCC9-4858-ACF5-A9DEC11367E2@gmail.com>
	<CAM9V8MfmVO-O+G76=xu27VOZk-kKmeNF-cMH0C8ORRGyk5FnmA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E2DA6C13-F7A6-4F3C-831E-282AE79220BE@ziggo.nl>

Thanks Willy,

 There are other belt suppliers such as vintage electronics who has free shipping. I do a lot of Nakamichi restore work for customers here in the Netherlands but i am afraid they can't afford 60 dollars for only the belts. It is a pitty because the belts from Fred are very high quality, thats for sure.

Best regards,

Norman


Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

Op 17 feb. 2013 om 21:52 heeft Willy Hermann <willy at willyhermannservices.com> het volgende geschreven:

> My observations with no ax to grind since I do very little international shipping:  The changes in the US Postal Service since the first of the month have made postage go up dramatically and international service become much more of a hassle for the shipper.  Unfortunately, I don't think you're looking at a gross price gouge here given the current rules.  Maybe we should just let the post office go bankrupt.
> Willy
> 
> 
> On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 11:35 AM, <n.van.wijnen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I can see on ebay that the shipping cost for sending belts from Fred Marrs to the Netherlands will cost me 24 dollar. Does shipping cost becomes a part of the profit these days?
>> 
>> Best regards
>> 
>> Norman
>> 
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From bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr  Mon Feb 18 08:34:11 2013
From: bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr (bb)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 08:34:11 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Prices for shipment of belts
In-Reply-To: <4696e62e19020639ca842b583e117111.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
References: <8F9C1278-CCC9-4858-ACF5-A9DEC11367E2@gmail.com>
	<4696e62e19020639ca842b583e117111.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <5121D973.1040406@univ-rennes1.fr>

The belt from Fred are definitely the good ones.
But I agree with Norman that these kind of shipping prices are way too high.

May be after a mutual agreement with Fred, he could switch to the $5 
rate upon request?

bernard


Le 17/02/2013 22:14, Wouter Heijke a écrit :
> Yeah that's the standard insane price for anything shipped with "USPS
> Priority Mail International Flat Rate EnvelopeTM"
>
> what is more econimically is:
>
> "USPS First Class Mail Intl / First Class Package Intl Service"
>
> Then it should be around $5 to The Netherlands is my experience.
>
> Wouter
>
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I can see on ebay that the shipping cost for sending belts from Fred Marrs
>> to the Netherlands will cost me 24 dollar. Does shipping cost becomes a
>> part of the profit these days?
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Norman
>>
>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>>
>>



From mstager at verizon.net  Mon Feb 18 00:20:33 2013
From: mstager at verizon.net (Marc Stager)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 18:20:33 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Prices for shipment of belts
In-Reply-To: <E2DA6C13-F7A6-4F3C-831E-282AE79220BE@ziggo.nl>
References: <8F9C1278-CCC9-4858-ACF5-A9DEC11367E2@gmail.com>
	<CAM9V8MfmVO-O+G76=xu27VOZk-kKmeNF-cMH0C8ORRGyk5FnmA@mail.gmail.com>
	<E2DA6C13-F7A6-4F3C-831E-282AE79220BE@ziggo.nl>
Message-ID: <0MIE006W10UDGF90@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net>

Gents:

I do a lot of international shipping of my silver interconnects.

While US Postal rates recently went up by about 40%
(International Priority Mail for a small box went from $16.95 to $23.50)
You can still send a small item like cassette deck belts in a small
padded envelope by First Class international mail - much cheaper:
about $8 or $9.  These belts only weigh a few ounces.

Best regards,
Marc Stager
) )  )    )       )              )
Stager Sound Systems,
New York City
http://stagersound.com/silver
tel:  212-595-4065
cel: 212-675-6000

========================

At 05:47 PM 2/17/2013, you wrote:
>Thanks Willy,
>  There are other belt suppliers such as vintage electronics who has 
> free shipping. I do a lot of Nakamichi restore work for customers 
> here in the Netherlands but i am afraid they can't afford 60 
> dollars for only the belts. It is a pitty because the belts from 
> Fred are very high quality, thats for sure.
>
>Best regards,
>Norman
>
>Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>Op 17 feb. 2013 om 21:52 heeft Willy Hermann 
><<mailto:willy at willyhermannservices.com>willy at willyhermannservices.com> 
>het volgende geschreven:
>
>>My observations with no ax to grind since I do very little 
>>international shipping:  The changes in the US Postal Service since 
>>the first of the month have made postage go up dramatically and 
>>international service become much more of a hassle for the 
>>shipper.  Unfortunately, I don't think you're looking at a gross 
>>price gouge here given the current rules.  Maybe we should just let 
>>the post office go bankrupt.
>>Willy
>>
>>On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 11:35 AM, 
>><<mailto:n.van.wijnen at gmail.com>n.van.wijnen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>Hi all,
>>I can see on ebay that the shipping cost for sending belts from 
>>Fred Marrs to the Netherlands will cost me 24 dollar. Does shipping 
>>cost becomes a part of the profit these days?
>>
>>Best regards
>>Norman
>>Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
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From joyell.solie at sasktel.net  Mon Feb 18 00:35:47 2013
From: joyell.solie at sasktel.net (Sahlmueller)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:35:47 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 582 - need main pcb
References: <CAHs-VfxnByoeNffRaLqhd_SXF0QLCpSc+4ujArXy8nixe_9z-g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3C4174FE8B98424B8EEC202C31E521CD@ownerb80a4b675>

Hi Rod, I have a 582 I bought for heads (which turned out to be no good) so I should have what ever parts you need if Willy doesn't have. In Canada though so shipping might be pricey 

Cheers,
Rainer

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rod Farnsworth 
  To: naktalk at naks.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 10:11 AM
  Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 582 - need main pcb


  I acquired a  582 recently from a local electronics recycling bin and all seemed good with this cosmetically good cassette deck. It plays ok but decided to open it up before going any futher with an assessment. Well, damn it, someone had drilled though the botton onto the main pcb and broke the board around one channel tape select EQ circuit. It's too badly damaged to restore the pcb. A sub board could be made to reconstruct the cct. but I don't have the energy to do that and i Is it worth the time? The heads look fine and the transport seems good.


  I would love to restore this deck to its proper state so does anyone have a main PCB for a 582 to sell me?  It is worth fixing?


  Rod


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From michaelalanmarks at aol.com  Mon Feb 18 09:22:15 2013
From: michaelalanmarks at aol.com (Michael Marks)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 03:22:15 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Prices for shipment of belts
In-Reply-To: <5121D973.1040406@univ-rennes1.fr>
References: <8F9C1278-CCC9-4858-ACF5-A9DEC11367E2@gmail.com>
	<4696e62e19020639ca842b583e117111.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
	<5121D973.1040406@univ-rennes1.fr>
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I ship overseas all the time.
While you can ship overseas for $5-$20 per item there is no insurance.
If you want to protect yourself or the customer with insurance you need to ship Priority Mail and this usually raises a $5 shipping cost to $30-$35.
So it is a catch22.
No insurance and take the risk or use insurance and pay an extra $25.
It is always a hard decision.
Also note if you are buying in E-Bay they take about 12% of the fee so if it costs him $12 to ship it to you and you pay him $12 he only gets about $10 and he looses $2 on shipping.
If he has to pay someone to go Ti the post office he looses even more with gas and the hourly wage he pays his employee.
Shipping always costs more than you think.

Sent from Michael's new iPhone 4

On Feb 18, 2013, at 2:34 AM, bb <bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr> wrote:

> The belt from Fred are definitely the good ones.
> But I agree with Norman that these kind of shipping prices are way too high.
> 
> May be after a mutual agreement with Fred, he could switch to the $5 rate upon request?
> 
> bernard
> 
> 
> Le 17/02/2013 22:14, Wouter Heijke a écrit :
>> Yeah that's the standard insane price for anything shipped with "USPS
>> Priority Mail International Flat Rate EnvelopeTM"
>> 
>> what is more econimically is:
>> 
>> "USPS First Class Mail Intl / First Class Package Intl Service"
>> 
>> Then it should be around $5 to The Netherlands is my experience.
>> 
>> Wouter
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I can see on ebay that the shipping cost for sending belts from Fred Marrs
>>> to the Netherlands will cost me 24 dollar. Does shipping cost becomes a
>>> part of the profit these days?
>>> 
>>> Best regards
>>> 
>>> Norman
>>> 
>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>>> 
>>> 
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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 18 20:09:58 2013
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 11:09:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] Prices for shipment of belts
In-Reply-To: <E2DA6C13-F7A6-4F3C-831E-282AE79220BE@ziggo.nl>
References: <8F9C1278-CCC9-4858-ACF5-A9DEC11367E2@gmail.com>
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Hi Norman, 

Perhaps you could also buy in larger quantity to spread the costs?

Cheers!


________________________________
 From: Ziggo <n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl>
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Prices for shipment of belts
 

Thanks Willy,

 There are other belt suppliers such as vintage electronics who has free shipping. I do a lot of Nakamichi restore work for customers here in the Netherlands but i am afraid they can't afford 60 dollars for only the belts. It is a pitty because the belts from Fred are very high quality, thats for sure.

Best regards,

Norman


Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

Op 17 feb. 2013 om 21:52 heeft Willy Hermann <willy at willyhermannservices.com> het volgende geschreven:


My observations with no ax to grind since I do very little international shipping:  The changes in the US Postal Service since the first of the month have made postage go up dramatically and international service become much more of a hassle for the shipper.  Unfortunately, I don't think you're looking at a gross price gouge here given the current rules.  Maybe we should just let the post office go bankrupt.
>Willy
>
>
>
>On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 11:35 AM, <n.van.wijnen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hi all,
>>
>>I can see on ebay that the shipping cost for sending belts from Fred Marrs to the Netherlands will cost me 24 dollar. Does shipping cost becomes a part of the profit these days?
>>
>>Best regards
>>
>>Norman
>>
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From frnswrth at telus.net  Tue Feb 19 01:16:46 2013
From: frnswrth at telus.net (Rod Farnsworth)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:16:46 -0800
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 582 - need main pcb
Message-ID: <CAHs-VfwCD+MkKmsW72rV70Tq68+du27af3Ug+9z3N5C-ss5L8Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Reiner,

Willy can't help me I afraid as I'm in BC, Canada. I see you are in
Saskachewan. What's wrong with the heads? If you are willing to part
with the whole 582 what's the price with shipping? Email me offline
from the group to rodf at telus.net


Hi Rod, I have a 582 I bought for heads (which turned out to be no
good) so I should have what ever parts you need if Willy doesn't have.
In Canada though so shipping might be pricey

Cheers,
Rainer

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Rod Farnsworth
  To: naktalk at naks.com <http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk>
  Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 10:11 AM
  Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 582 - need main pcb


  I acquired a  582 recently from a local electronics recycling bin
and all seemed good with this cosmetically good cassette deck. It
plays ok but decided to open it up before going any futher with an
assessment. Well, damn it, someone had drilled though the botton onto
the main pcb and broke the board around one channel tape select EQ
circuit. It's too badly damaged to restore the pcb. A sub board could
be made to reconstruct the cct. but I don't have the energy to do that
and i Is it worth the time? The heads look fine and the transport
seems good.


  I would love to restore this deck to its proper state so does anyone
have a main PCB for a 582 to sell me?  It is worth fixing?


  Rod


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From davidfrow at hotmail.com  Tue Feb 19 19:22:42 2013
From: davidfrow at hotmail.com (David Frow)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:22:42 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] 680/680ZX - play head needed
In-Reply-To: <3C4174FE8B98424B8EEC202C31E521CD@ownerb80a4b675>
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Hi all, I have a 680 with a play head open circuit on one channel.  I'd like one of the selected 680/680ZX PB heads if anyone has one available.  I also need a PB head for a 482Z.  Please let me know if you can help.  Thanks, David. 		 	   		  
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From koman56 at hol.gr  Fri Feb 22 21:50:41 2013
From: koman56 at hol.gr (Emmanouil Komninos)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 22:50:41 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Problem with a DR-1 -How to change the capstan belt
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP457063BB4271B5B397ECC49CFF00@phx.gbl>

Hi to all Naktalkers!
I have a DR-1 deck which since yesterday  will not stay in play mode. It 
starts - very slowly- playing a tape, but stops after few seconds of 
playing time on stop mode.... FF and REW  work just fine. I opened the 
top cover and noticed that the capstan belt is too loose. This deck has 
been in my collection since new (1992) and never had a belt 
change....(unless the problem is not the capstan belt which i doubt)... 
Fortunately i had a set of belts from Fred and  the SM for the unit, 
which,  i believe for such issue has no use, but, as far as i am 
concerned, despite the fact that this deck is not so "busy" and complex 
inside  as other NAKs with the classic transport, i find it very hard to 
figure out how to proceed to get in there and change the capstan belt 
without doing any other damage that will lead to more complex mechanical 
problems, which i will not be able to fix on my own. I would very much 
appreciate  any inputs you may have  on how to proceed and if you think 
this is a task that someone with medium skills can do with step by step 
instructions. Thank you for your time,  Manos


From ronami at yahoo.com  Sat Feb 23 23:00:23 2013
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:00:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] Problem with a DR-1 -How to change the capstan belt
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP457063BB4271B5B397ECC49CFF00@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP457063BB4271B5B397ECC49CFF00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1361656823.85977.YahooMailNeo@web160203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

IIRC, the DR-1 utilized a DD Sankyo transport. Replacing the capstan belt (actually, 
the supply capstan, as the takeup capstan is DD) is fairly simple.

From memory: looking at the transport from the rear, remove the 4 small screws 
holding the capstan motor PCB. The wires going to the PCB are rather long, 
permitting pushing it asidewithout desoldering anything, just free up the metal 
tie strip holding all these wires together. With the PCB out of the way, you can 
see a diagonal metal strip supporting the supply flywheel, held with one screw. 
Remove the screw and the diagonal strip. Note the exact orientation of the old 
belt, then remove it. Thoroughly clean contact areas of both flywheels with a 
piece of clean rag dampened with isopropyl alcohol, after which avoid touching 
the cleaned areas. Put on vinyl gloves. Clean the new belt, When dry, thread it 
around the two pulleys, exactly as the original belt was. Put a tiny blob of light 
general purpose grease on the Delrin circle on the diagonal strip. Reassemble 
in reverse order. Voila, you're done!

All that said, I am not sure your problem has to do with the capstan belt (even 
though it's a good idea to replace it after all these years). 

Good luck,

-- Ron






>________________________________
> From: Emmanouil Komninos <koman56 at hol.gr>
>To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
>Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 3:50 PM
>Subject: [naktalk] Problem with a DR-1 -How to change the capstan belt
> 
>Hi to all Naktalkers!
>I have a DR-1 deck which since yesterday  will not stay in play mode. It starts - very slowly- playing a tape, but stops after few seconds of playing time on stop mode.... FF and REW  work just fine. I opened the top cover and noticed that the capstan belt is too loose. This deck has been in my collection since new (1992) and never had a belt change....(unless the problem is not the capstan belt which i doubt)... Fortunately i had a set of belts from Fred and  the SM for the unit, which,  i believe for such issue has no use, but, as far as i am concerned, despite the fact that this deck is not so "busy" and complex inside  as other NAKs with the classic transport, i find it very hard to figure out how to proceed to get in there and change the capstan belt without doing any other damage that will lead to more complex mechanical problems, which i will not be able to fix on my own. I would very much appreciate  any inputs you may have  on how to
 proceed and if you think this is a task that someone with medium skills can do with step by step instructions. Thank you for your time,  Manos
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From willy at willyhermannservices.com  Sun Feb 24 00:50:31 2013
From: willy at willyhermannservices.com (Willy Hermann)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 15:50:31 -0800
Subject: [naktalk] 610
Message-ID: <CAM9V8Mc-daWS4pymSFrjKnyyVxx67D-7r10sUr58WmPa0JKmAQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello NakTalkers -
I have a question about the function of a 610 mixer/preamp:
It has an internal oscillator.  Does anybody know what level you are
supposed to be able to achieve with this oscillator?  I would assume at
least 0dB but I can't find an owner's manual anywhere and I haven't had one
of these in my hands in many long moons.
Thanks for your help.
Willy
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From tpfinn at btinternet.com  Sun Feb 24 14:30:33 2013
From: tpfinn at btinternet.com (Terry Finn)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 13:30:33 -0000
Subject: [naktalk] 610
In-Reply-To: <CAM9V8Mc-daWS4pymSFrjKnyyVxx67D-7r10sUr58WmPa0JKmAQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM9V8Mc-daWS4pymSFrjKnyyVxx67D-7r10sUr58WmPa0JKmAQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005d01ce1293$1fc771a0$5f5654e0$@com>

Hi Willy

 

Not seen one for a while either (useful bit of kit) can't lay my hands on my
S/m BUT,  

 

Have checked the spec sheet and Tech sheet 7 and output will depend on where
you want it to end up at!

As the output pot is before the Master VR ,monitor VR and monitor output
levels.

The shortest path will be to the line out which the spec sheet is saying
(for 0db) is:

Line out: 316mV/600 ohms/1K ohms5V @10K, 

Rec out: 316mV/2.2K/50K

Max output at clipping at both the above is 5V.

 

Hope that helps...

 

Terry

 

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Willy Hermann
Sent: 23 February 2013 23:51
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: [naktalk] 610

 

Hello NakTalkers -

I have a question about the function of a 610 mixer/preamp:

It has an internal oscillator.  Does anybody know what level you are
supposed to be able to achieve with this oscillator?  I would assume at
least 0dB but I can't find an owner's manual anywhere and I haven't had one
of these in my hands in many long moons.

Thanks for your help.

Willy

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From willy at willyhermannservices.com  Sun Feb 24 17:23:13 2013
From: willy at willyhermannservices.com (Willy Hermann)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 08:23:13 -0800
Subject: [naktalk] 610
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Thanks Terry - helps immensely.  As I thought this one has a problem.
Willy


On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 5:30 AM, Terry Finn <tpfinn at btinternet.com> wrote:

> Hi Willy****
>
> ** **
>
> Not seen one for a while either (useful bit of kit) can’t lay my hands on
> my S/m BUT,  ****
>
> ** **
>
> Have checked the spec sheet and Tech sheet 7 and output will depend on
> where you want it to end up at!****
>
> As the output pot is before the Master VR ,monitor VR and monitor output
> levels.****
>
> The shortest path will be to the line out which the spec sheet is saying
> (for 0db) is:****
>
> Line out: 316mV/600 ohms/1K ohms5V @10K, ****
>
> Rec out: 316mV/2.2K/50K****
>
> Max output at clipping at both the above is 5V.****
>
> ** **
>
> Hope that helps...****
>
> ** **
>
> Terry****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Willy Hermann
> *Sent:* 23 February 2013 23:51
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* [naktalk] 610****
>
> ** **
>
> Hello NakTalkers -****
>
> I have a question about the function of a 610 mixer/preamp:****
>
> It has an internal oscillator.  Does anybody know what level you are
> supposed to be able to achieve with this oscillator?  I would assume at
> least 0dB but I can't find an owner's manual anywhere and I haven't had one
> of these in my hands in many long moons.****
>
> Thanks for your help.****
>
> Willy****
>
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From alpha at iinet.net.au  Sun Feb 24 11:26:10 2013
From: alpha at iinet.net.au (Nigel Day)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 18:26:10 +0800
Subject: FW: [naktalk] original Nakamichi pressure rollers
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJrMuoo8aN5LnBp6yRZ/a5nCgAAAEAAAAOK25328LDJApjpj6OnBf30BAAAAAA==@iinet.net.au>

 
Hi Bernard
If you have any rollers left, would thery be suitable for a 1000 Tri Tracer?

If not, have you any idea where I might find rollers for this model?

Cheers

Nigel


-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of bb
Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2012 3:58 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: [naktalk] original Nakamichi pressure rollers

Dear Naktalkers,

I have (again) 8 sets of original Nakamichi pressure rollers to sell (0C0
8164 G).
They fit all classic transport decks (I have a doubt about the RX 303 &
505 for which the ref number is different).

  I should add that one set was recently mounted on a ZX-9 by one of us and
they match exactly and work properly

If interested, please contact me off list.

bernard




From adcdcs at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 24 17:54:30 2013
From: adcdcs at yahoo.com (Alexander Collins)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 08:54:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] 610
In-Reply-To: <005d01ce1293$1fc771a0$5f5654e0$@com>
References: <CAM9V8Mc-daWS4pymSFrjKnyyVxx67D-7r10sUr58WmPa0JKmAQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<005d01ce1293$1fc771a0$5f5654e0$@com>
Message-ID: <1361724870.37786.YahooMailNeo@web141001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Hello y'all.

I am new to this and not sure how it works.
I have several decks, and recently acquired a1000zxl.
It worked great at first. Just a little delay on the left channel VLU meters, but no problem on the sound.
However, when I tried to record, whatever signal I input into it, when monitoring it
it is super garbled and distorted and only the right channel sends this horrible sound.
It also won't do the auto calibration correctly. It just keeps going until the end of the tape.
Any hope???


Thank You and very best regards to all Naktalkers out there.



>________________________________
> From: Terry Finn <tpfinn at btinternet.com>
>To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' <naktalk at naks.com> 
>Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:30 AM
>Subject: RE: [naktalk] 610
> 
>
>Hi Willy
> 
>Not seen one for a while either (useful bit of kit) can’t lay my hands on my S/m BUT,  
> 
>Have checked the spec sheet and Tech sheet 7 and output will depend on where you want it to end up at!
>As the output pot is before the Master VR ,monitor VR and monitor output levels.
>The shortest path will be to the line out which the spec sheet is saying (for 0db) is:
>Line out: 316mV/600 ohms/1K ohms5V @10K, 
>Rec out: 316mV/2.2K/50K
>Max output at clipping at both the above is 5V.
> 
>Hope that helps...
> 
>Terry
> 
> 
>From:naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Willy Hermann
>Sent: 23 February 2013 23:51
>To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>Subject: [naktalk] 610
> 
>Hello NakTalkers -
>I have a question about the function of a 610 mixer/preamp:
>It has an internal oscillator.  Does anybody know what level you are supposed to be able to achieve with this oscillator?  I would assume at least 0dB but I can't find an owner's manual anywhere and I haven't had one of these in my hands in many long moons.
>Thanks for your help.
>Willy
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From luis at peromarta.org  Sun Feb 24 19:03:55 2013
From: luis at peromarta.org (Luis Peromarta)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 13:03:55 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] 610
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There is hope, brother. 

You need to send it to someone who can service it. A few hundred dollars will do miracles on the ZXL

Sent from iPhone. Pls excuse typos.

El 24/02/2013, a las 11:54, Alexander Collins <adcdcs at yahoo.com> escribió:

> Hello y'all.
> 
> I am new to this and not sure how it works.
> I have several decks, and recently acquired a1000zxl.
> It worked great at first. Just a little delay on the left channel VLU meters, but no problem on the sound.
> However, when I tried to record, whatever signal I input into it, when monitoring it
> it is super garbled and distorted and only the right channel sends this horrible sound.
> It also won't do the auto calibration correctly. It just keeps going until the end of the tape.
> Any hope???
> 
> 
> Thank You and very best regards to all Naktalkers out there.
> 
> From: Terry Finn <tpfinn at btinternet.com>
> To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' <naktalk at naks.com> 
> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:30 AM
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] 610
> 
> Hi Willy
>  
> Not seen one for a while either (useful bit of kit) can’t lay my hands on my S/m BUT,  
>  
> Have checked the spec sheet and Tech sheet 7 and output will depend on where you want it to end up at!
> As the output pot is before the Master VR ,monitor VR and monitor output levels.
> The shortest path will be to the line out which the spec sheet is saying (for 0db) is:
> Line out: 316mV/600 ohms/1K ohms5V @10K,
> Rec out: 316mV/2.2K/50K
> Max output at clipping at both the above is 5V.
>  
> Hope that helps...
>  
> Terry
>  
>  
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Willy Hermann
> Sent: 23 February 2013 23:51
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: [naktalk] 610
>  
> Hello NakTalkers -
> I have a question about the function of a 610 mixer/preamp:
> It has an internal oscillator.  Does anybody know what level you are supposed to be able to achieve with this oscillator?  I would assume at least 0dB but I can't find an owner's manual anywhere and I haven't  had one of these in my hands in many long moons.
> Thanks for your help.
> Willy
> 
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From bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr  Sun Feb 24 20:12:27 2013
From: bernard.boitrel at univ-rennes1.fr (bb)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 20:12:27 +0100
Subject: FW: [naktalk] original Nakamichi pressure rollers
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Hi Nigel,

Yes I still have some rollers but according to what I have seen in the 
1000II SM, and conversely to the 1000ZXL, I would say that the 0C08164G 
do not fit the Tri Tracer.
Could someone confirm ?

And I have no idea where to find some.

Bernard

>   
> Hi Bernard
> If you have any rollers left, would thery be suitable for a 1000 Tri Tracer?
>
> If not, have you any idea where I might find rollers for this model?
>
> Cheers
>
> Nigel
>
>



From gerhard.wartha at gmail.com  Sun Feb 24 21:09:35 2013
From: gerhard.wartha at gmail.com (Gerhard Wartha)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 21:09:35 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] original Nakamichi pressure rollers
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Classic Rollers  do have a diameter/ middle 11mm, 1000 1000II  
diameter is 8,5mm   , and the roller is longer than  a classic- 
transport roller

This photo shows the 1000II roller on the left and 1000/700 roller on  
the right side.

Photo shows  the original spare parts , but the roller can be  
replaced without replacing the  metal assy.

regards

Gerhard

This assy is different in 1000 and 1000II.
Am 24.02.2013 um 20:12 schrieb bb:

> Hi Nigel,
>
> Yes I still have some rollers but according to what I have seen in  
> the 1000II SM, and conversely to the 1000ZXL, I would say that the  
> 0C08164G do not fit the Tri Tracer.
> Could someone confirm ?
>
> And I have no idea where to find some.
>
> Bernard
>
>>   Hi Bernard
>> If you have any rollers left, would thery be suitable for a 1000  
>> Tri Tracer?
>>
>> If not, have you any idea where I might find rollers for this model?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Nigel
>>
>>
>
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From shorty1275nz at actrix.co.nz  Mon Feb 25 06:20:25 2013
From: shorty1275nz at actrix.co.nz (Martin Short)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 18:20:25 +1300
Subject: [naktalk] 610
References: <CAM9V8Mc-daWS4pymSFrjKnyyVxx67D-7r10sUr58WmPa0JKmAQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F0C2012C989B4E6FA8C584681B8E3873@desktop>

Hi Willy,

You should get one ;o)... the venerable 610/620 combo is still the core of my main system at home.. still floats my boat 35 years on.. I  guess the oscillator  would go to +10dB as you set the level using the 610's meters, and then reference any work back to that.  I've used it as a quick frequency check on tapedecks  (mainly the 14K signal), and level setting with pink noise when comparing speakers, that is about it.
I can scan the owners manual if you like tomorrow, and email over. 
cheers,
Martin
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  From: Willy Hermann 
  To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
  Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 12:50 PM
  Subject: [naktalk] 610


  Hello NakTalkers -
  I have a question about the function of a 610 mixer/preamp:
  It has an internal oscillator.  Does anybody know what level you are supposed to be able to achieve with this oscillator?  I would assume at least 0dB but I can't find an owner's manual anywhere and I haven't had one of these in my hands in many long moons.
  Thanks for your help.
  Willy
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From shantiram2000 at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 24 22:45:09 2013
From: shantiram2000 at yahoo.com (shanti ramachandran)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 13:45:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] 610
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Alex,

If there is issues with the playback on one channel the ZXL will not( can not) calibrate. Send it to a technician that has a good knowledge of the workings of a ZXL
It might need a complete look over and a complete calibration after the defective capacitors( and /or other components) are replaced. IMHO, it is better to replace al known to fail PP  caps and recalibrate the deck .
I can suggest Willy Hermann in the USA, or if you've got mega bucks, ESL in CT. Just be careful who you send it to, as most individuals know nothing about the ZXL decks.
Good luck.
Ram.

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 From: Alexander Collins <adcdcs at yahoo.com>
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [naktalk] 610
 

Hello y'all.

I am new to this and not sure how it works.
I have several decks, and recently acquired a1000zxl.
It worked great at first. Just a little delay on the left channel VLU meters, but no problem on the sound.
However, when I tried to record, whatever signal I input into it, when monitoring it
it is super garbled and distorted and only the right channel sends this horrible sound.
It also won't do the auto calibration correctly. It just keeps going until the end of the tape.
Any hope???


Thank You and very best regards to all Naktalkers out there.



>________________________________
> From: Terry Finn <tpfinn at btinternet.com>
>To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' <naktalk at naks.com> 
>Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:30 AM
>Subject: RE: [naktalk] 610
> 
>
>Hi Willy
> 
>Not seen one for a while either (useful bit of kit) can’t lay my hands on my S/m BUT,  
> 
>Have checked the spec sheet and Tech sheet 7 and output will depend on where you want it to end up at!
>As the output pot is before the Master VR ,monitor VR and monitor output levels.
>The shortest path will be to the line out which the spec sheet is saying (for 0db) is:
>Line out: 316mV/600 ohms/1K ohms5V @10K, 
>Rec out: 316mV/2.2K/50K
>Max output at clipping at both the above is 5V.
> 
>Hope that helps...
> 
>Terry
> 
> 
>From:naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Willy Hermann
>Sent: 23 February 2013 23:51
>To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>Subject: [naktalk] 610
> 
>Hello NakTalkers -
>I have a question about the function of a 610 mixer/preamp:
>It has an internal oscillator.  Does anybody know what level you are supposed to be able to achieve with this oscillator?  I would assume at least 0dB but I can't find an owner's manual anywhere and I haven't had one of these in my hands in many long moons.
>Thanks for your help.
>Willy
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From BOEING747600 at aol.com  Sun Feb 24 23:10:27 2013
From: BOEING747600 at aol.com (BOEING747600 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 17:10:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [naktalk] looking for 3 chrome transport push buttons covers for
	nak 700zxe/700zxl 
Message-ID: <28753.762243de.3e5be9d3@aol.com>

Hi Everyone,  I am looking for 3 chrome tape transport chrome covers  that 
goes on the push buttons like fast forward, rewind, play, record for the  
nakamichi 700zxe /700zxl cassette deck.  If anyone have them please let me  
know what is the cost and ordering info with shipping to zipcode 22102, USA.  
Thanks1  Ali
 
 
In a message dated 2/23/2013 7:20:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
willy at willyhermannservices.com writes:

Hello NakTalkers -  
I have a question about the function of a 610 mixer/preamp:
It has an internal oscillator.  Does anybody know what level you are  
supposed to be able to achieve with this oscillator?  I would assume at  least 
0dB but I can't find an owner's manual anywhere and I haven't had one of  
these in my hands in many long moons.
Thanks for your help.
Willy



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From paolocipx at gmail.com  Tue Feb 26 11:04:20 2013
From: paolocipx at gmail.com (Paolo Cipollone)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 11:04:20 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Nak 680ZX: the cal switch was indeed dirty!
Message-ID: <CACqCBCQo9SSXWEP9dya+Ex3fVL1ROCx=7xv4ZA3b6wYrOQ0d5A@mail.gmail.com>

I wish to thank Willy and other members who pointed me to the right
direction.

I simply couldn't believe that the cal switch, that exhibited such weird
behaviors, could only be dirty. After a few days, after which probably the
dry oxide cleaner was left able to do its thing, the problem was solved.
Thanks again.

O.T.: I've been away from Naktalk for a while, and have seen a while back
some interest in the Beocord 9000.
I've had the luck lately of getting a recently serviced one, although,
predictably, it *was* out of whack calibration wise.
I studied it quite a bit while setting it right, so, if there's any
interest I could post a short review.

Ciao,
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From joyell.solie at sasktel.net  Tue Jan  1 00:12:38 2013
From: joyell.solie at sasktel.net (Rainer & Joy-Ell)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 17:12:38 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] New member intro and BX-300 repair questions
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Andrew, try head phones in headphone jack, might give a further clue as what the problem is. So problem occured right after replacing idler tire ? Whenever I hear heavey static when adjusting an output pot I think ground problem. 

Cheers and Happy New Year,
Rainer
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: drucyphr 
  To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 2:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [naktalk] New member intro and BX-300 repair questions


  I finally got the idler tire replaced in my BX-300. I encountered a couple of hiccups in the process, all related to the tiny washer that holds the idler hub on the shaft. After struggling to remove the washer, it went flying into the unit somewhere never to be found again. I ordered a replacement, and then struggled to install it back on the shaft. All said and done the repair did fix my initial problem and the transport now works.


  Now I have a new problem. When playing a cassette, the master output shows a stereo signal but there is no sound. Adjusting the volume output slider causes heavy static noises. I am going to disassemble the front panel and spray the volume slide pot with Deoxit D5 and Faderlube F5.


  If anyone has any recommendations on any other possible problems/solutions please respond.


  Thanks and happy New Years!


  -Andrew



  On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

    > Besides visually inspecting the idler to see if it uses a rubber tire or gear, is there another way to check? Perhaps using the serial number?


    Not really. The gear update was available as a replacement part for decks
    that originally came with a rubber idler and there's no telling whether your 

    deck was upgraded without actually looking. The rubber design was poor 

    (you can almost call it a mistake) -- it required a tire replacement every 

    couple of years in average use. The gear totally fixed the problem. 



    -- Ron









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      From: drucyphr <drucyphr at gmail.com>
      To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
      Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 3:16 PM
      Subject: Re: [naktalk] New member intro and BX-300 repair questions



      Thanks for the replies. I will inspect the takeup hub and idler today. I went ahead and ordered an idler tire from ESL, so if that is the problem I will have the part handy to make the repair.

      Besides visually inspecting the idler to see if it uses a rubber tire or gear, is there another way to check? Perhaps using the serial number? I am kind of curious what year my unit was manufactured.


      I'll post back with results, thanks for all the help.

      -Andrew


      On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:


        The BX-300 utilizes a Sankyo dual capstan Direct Drive transport. The take up capstan is direct 
        driven, the supply capstan is belt  driven. During PLAY, the takeup hub is driven through an idler. 
        Originally, that was a rubber idler, which was later upgraded to a gear idler.

        I doubt very much your problem has to do with the supply capstan belt. What you describe sounds 
        like a take up problem. If your deck has the rubber idler, the cause could be mechanical (a bad or
        glazed idler) It could also be electrical  (a bad reel motor, fault in the the drive electronics or simply 
        incorrect torque adjustment). If your deck uses a gear idler, it's unlikely the problem is mechanical, 
        as these idlers tend to live forever.

        So, don't order anything right now. First, remove the cassette back plate (two tiny screws on top of 
        the plate) and inspect the transport. If you see the rubber idler, put the deck to PLAY mode (no 
        cassette in the well) and hinder the takeup hub movement with the tip of a finger. If you observe 
        slippage between the pulley and idler or idler and hub, clean all mating surfaces very thoroughly. If 
        that doesn't do the trick, then replace the idler tire. 

        Let us know hoe you're doing,

        -- Ron







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          From: drucyphr <drucyphr at gmail.com>
          To: naktalk at naks.com 
          Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 10:10 AM
          Subject: [naktalk] New member intro and BX-300 repair questions



          Hello Naks, new member here.


          A little about my Nak. I just received my first Nakamichi deck after doing a bit of research and shopping around online. I found a gently used one-owner BX-300. The owner thought it was in 100% working order when he listed it for sale, but after testing it he realized it was pulling tape. I talked the owner into selling it to me as a non-working unit for a decent price. I have worked on cassette decks before, but never on a Nakamichi.


          The deck powers on. You can hear a motor noise when it turns on. All the lights work. With a cassette in the deck, when you press play the reel spins for a second and then stops. With the FFwd and Rew you can hear the motor but the tape does not move. The tape I tested did not get pulled.


          I am assuming it needs new capstan belts and idler tire..


          Should I order a belt kit from Marrs Comm? Is the process pretty straight forward? Are there any resources online explaining the repair? Are there any other tests or repairs I should do while the unit is open?


          Thanks for the help.
          -Andrew


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From fripp_em at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  1 04:25:52 2013
From: fripp_em at yahoo.com (fripp_em)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:25:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] WTB: Nakamichi SRC-1 cable
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Also you probably want to look at the wiki page for the remote control reference doc.
http://download.naks.com/servicebulletins/RemoteControlReference.pdf




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 From: andreikho <andrei_kho at hotmail.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 5:01 PM
Subject: [naktalk] WTB: Nakamichi SRC-1 cable
 

 
Looking for a Nakamichi SRC-1 cable; in fact need two but If you have only one it's fine. 

This is a cable to connect many Nakamichi decks, some of CD Players and ST-7 tuner with control preamp or receiver. It has 8-pin DIN male sockets on both ends. 
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From gtsdave at bellsouth.net  Tue Jan  1 14:35:31 2013
From: gtsdave at bellsouth.net (Dave)
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 08:35:31 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] New member intro and BX-300 repair questions
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Check your connections on the rear, input vs output

From David


On Dec 31, 2012, at 18:12, "Rainer & Joy-Ell" <joyell.solie at sasktel.net> wrote:

> Andrew, try head phones in headphone jack, might give a further clue as what the problem is. So problem occured right after replacing idler tire ? Whenever I hear heavey static when adjusting an output pot I think ground problem. 
>  
> Cheers and Happy New Year,
> Rainer
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: drucyphr
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 2:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] New member intro    and BX-300 repair questions
> 
> I finally got the idler tire replaced in my BX-300. I encountered a couple of hiccups in the process, all related to the tiny washer that holds the idler hub on the shaft. After struggling to remove the washer, it went flying into the unit somewhere never to be found again. I ordered a replacement, and then struggled to install it back on the shaft. All said and done the repair did fix my initial problem and the transport now works.
> 
> Now I have a new problem. When playing a cassette, the master output    shows a stereo signal but there is no sound. Adjusting the volume output slider causes heavy static noises. I am going to disassemble the front panel and spray the volume slide pot with Deoxit D5 and Faderlube F5.
> 
> If anyone has any recommendations on any other possible problems/solutions please respond.
> 
> Thanks and happy New Years!
> 
> -Andrew
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > Besides visually inspecting the idler to see if it uses a rubber tire or gear, is there another way to check? Perhaps using the serial number?
>> 
>> Not really. The gear update was available as a replacement part for decks
>> that originally came with a rubber idler and there's no telling whether your 
>> deck was upgraded without actually looking. The rubber design was poor 
>> (you can almost call it a mistake) -- it required a tire replacement every 
>> couple of years in average use. The gear totally fixed the problem. 
>> 
>> -- Ron
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: drucyphr <drucyphr at gmail.com>
>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
>> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 3:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] New member intro and BX-300 repair questions
>> 
>> Thanks for the replies. I will inspect the takeup hub and idler today. I went ahead and ordered an idler tire from ESL, so if that is the problem I will have the part handy to make the repair.
>> 
>> Besides visually inspecting the idler to see if it uses a rubber tire or gear, is there another way to check? Perhaps using the serial number? I am kind of curious what year my unit was manufactured.
>> 
>> I'll post back with results, thanks for all the help.
>> 
>> -Andrew
>> 
>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The BX-300 utilizes a Sankyo dual capstan Direct Drive transport. The take up capstan is direct 
>> driven, the supply capstan is belt           driven. During PLAY, the takeup hub is driven through an idler. 
>> Originally, that was a rubber idler, which was later upgraded to a gear idler.
>> 
>> I doubt very much your problem has to do with the supply capstan belt. What you describe sounds 
>> like a take up problem. If your deck has the rubber idler, the cause could be mechanical (a bad or
>> glazed idler) It could also be electrical  (a bad reel motor, fault in the the drive electronics or simply 
>> incorrect torque adjustment). If your deck uses a gear idler, it's unlikely the problem is mechanical, 
>> as these idlers tend to live forever.
>> 
>> So, don't order anything right now. First, remove the cassette back plate (two tiny screws on top of 
>> the plate) and inspect the transport. If you see the rubber idler, put the deck to PLAY mode (no 
>> cassette in the well) and hinder the takeup hub movement with the tip of a finger. If you observe 
>> slippage between the pulley and idler or idler and hub, clean all mating surfaces very thoroughly.          If 
>> that doesn't do the trick, then replace the idler tire. 
>> 
>> Let us know hoe you're doing,
>> 
>> -- Ron
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: drucyphr <drucyphr at gmail.com>
>> To: naktalk at naks.com 
>> Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 10:10 AM
>> Subject: [naktalk] New member intro and BX-300 repair questions
>> 
>> Hello Naks, new member here.
>> 
>> A little about my Nak. I just received my first Nakamichi deck after doing a bit of research and shopping around online. I found a gently used one-owner BX-300. The owner thought it was in 100% working order when he listed it for sale, but after testing it he realized it was pulling tape. I talked the owner into selling it to me as a non-working unit for a decent price. I have worked on cassette decks before, but never on a Nakamichi.
>> 
>> The deck powers on. You can hear a motor noise when it turns on. All the lights work. With a cassette in the deck, when you press play the reel spins for a second and then stops. With the FFwd and Rew you can hear the motor but the tape does not move. The tape I tested did not get pulled.
>> 
>> I am assuming it needs new capstan belts and idler tire..
>> 
>> Should I order a belt kit from Marrs Comm? Is the process pretty straight forward? Are there any resources online explaining the repair? Are there any other tests or repairs I should do while the unit is open?
>> 
>> Thanks for the help.
>> -Andrew
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Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 10:56:55 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Tape Head Maintenance
In-Reply-To: <201301011109.r01B88jS009829@zxe.naks.com>
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For those that are interested (I posted a question on this earlier), here is
a pretty good source for cleaning and demagnetizing tape heads.   I would
not recommend the demag process unless you know there is an issue, like high
frequency loss.  Good info for keeping up our old Naks, esp playing all
those old tapes ;-).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2LQr63X7lk

Ciao

Rob

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   1. Re: WTB: Nakamichi SRC-1 cable (fripp_em)
   2. Re: WTB: Nakamichi SRC-1 cable (Scott Johnson)
   3. Re: New member intro and BX-300 repair questions (drucyphr)
   4. Re: New member intro and BX-300 repair questions
      (Rainer & Joy-Ell)
   5. Re: WTB: Nakamichi SRC-1 cable (fripp_em)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 20:40:30 -0800 (PST)
From: fripp_em <fripp_em at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] WTB: Nakamichi SRC-1 cable
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/NAKAMICHI-ORIGINAL-SRC-1-CASSETTE-DECK-CABLE-/300335
338750



________________________________
 From: andrei kho <andrei_kho at hotmail.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 5:01 PM
Subject: [naktalk] WTB: Nakamichi SRC-1 cable
 

 
Looking for a Nakamichi SRC-1 cable; in fact need two but If you have only
one it's fine. 

This is a cable to connect many Nakamichi decks, some of CD Players and ST-7
tuner with control preamp or receiver. It has 8-pin DIN male sockets on both
ends. 
Andrei 
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Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 10:15:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Scott Johnson <p9019 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] WTB: Nakamichi SRC-1 cable
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
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The SRC-1 is only for connecting tape decks to compatible preamp or
receivers like the CA-7 or TA-series.  That cable is not for CD Players or
the ST-7 tuner.  The CD player uses a different shape DIN-8 connect and the
tuner uses a DIN-7.
 
I have custom made all three types of these cables for people for less than
the cost of the genuine SRC-1.
 
Scott

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From: andrei kho <andrei_kho at hotmail.com>
Subject: [naktalk] WTB: Nakamichi SRC-1 cable
To: naktalk at naks.com
Date: Sunday, December 30, 2012, 5:01 PM







Looking for a Nakamichi SRC-1 cable; in fact need two but If you have only
one it's fine. 

This is a cable to connect many Nakamichi decks, some of CD Players and ST-7
tuner with control preamp or receiver. It has 8-pin DIN male sockets on both
ends. 
Andrei 

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Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:53:41 -0600
From: drucyphr <drucyphr at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] New member intro and BX-300 repair questions
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
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I finally got the idler tire replaced in my BX-300. I encountered a couple
of hiccups in the process, all related to the tiny washer that holds the
idler hub on the shaft. After struggling to remove the washer, it went
flying into the unit somewhere never to be found again. I ordered a
replacement, and then struggled to install it back on the shaft. All said
and done the repair did fix my initial problem and the transport now works.

Now I have a new problem. When playing a cassette, the master output shows
a stereo signal but there is no sound. Adjusting the volume output slider
causes heavy static noises. I am going to disassemble the front panel and
spray the volume slide pot with Deoxit D5 and Faderlube F5.

If anyone has any recommendations on any other possible problems/solutions
please respond.

Thanks and happy New Years!

-Andrew


On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

> > Besides visually inspecting the idler to see if it uses a rubber tire
> or gear, is there another way to check? Perhaps using the serial number?
>
> Not really. The gear update was available as a replacement part for decks
> that originally came with a rubber idler and there's no telling whether
> your
> deck was upgraded without actually looking. The rubber design was poor
> (you can almost call it a mistake) -- it required a tire replacement every
> couple of years in average use. The gear totally fixed the problem.
>
> -- Ron
>
>
>
>
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* drucyphr <drucyphr at gmail.com>
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 10, 2012 3:16 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] New member intro and BX-300 repair questions
>
> Thanks for the replies. I will inspect the takeup hub and idler today. I
> went ahead and ordered an idler tire from ESL, so if that is the problem I
> will have the part handy to make the repair.
>
> Besides visually inspecting the idler to see if it uses a rubber tire or
> gear, is there another way to check? Perhaps using the serial number? I am
> kind of curious what year my unit was manufactured.
>
> I'll post back with results, thanks for all the help.
>
> -Andrew
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> The BX-300 utilizes a Sankyo dual capstan Direct Drive transport. The take
> up capstan is direct
> driven, the supply capstan is belt  driven. During PLAY, the takeup hub is
> driven through an idler.
> Originally, that was a rubber idler, which was later upgraded to a gear
> idler.
>
> I doubt very much your problem has to do with the supply capstan belt.
> What you describe sounds
> like a take up problem. If your deck has the rubber idler, the cause could
> be mechanical (a bad or
> glazed idler) It could also be electrical  (a bad reel motor, fault in the
> the drive electronics or simply
> incorrect torque adjustment). If your deck uses a gear idler, it's
> unlikely the problem is mechanical,
> as these idlers tend to live forever.
>
> So, don't order anything right now. First, remove the cassette back plate
> (two tiny screws on top of
> the plate) and inspect the transport. If you see the rubber idler, put the
> deck to PLAY mode (no
> cassette in the well) and hinder the takeup hub movement with the tip of a
> finger. If you observe
> slippage between the pulley and idler or idler and hub, clean all mating
> surfaces very thoroughly. If
> that doesn't do the trick, then replace the idler tire.
>
> Let us know hoe you're doing,
>
> -- Ron
>
>
>
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* drucyphr <drucyphr at gmail.com>
> *To:* naktalk at naks.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 6, 2012 10:10 AM
> *Subject:* [naktalk] New member intro and BX-300 repair questions
>
> Hello Naks, new member here.
>
> A little about my Nak. I just received my first Nakamichi deck after doing
> a bit of research and shopping around online. I found a gently used
> one-owner BX-300. The owner thought it was in 100% working order when he
> listed it for sale, but after testing it he realized it was pulling tape.
I
> talked the owner into selling it to me as a non-working unit for a decent
> price. I have worked on cassette decks before, but never on a Nakamichi.
>
> The deck powers on. You can hear a motor noise when it turns on. All the
> lights work. With a cassette in the deck, when you press play the reel
> spins for a second and then stops. With the FFwd and Rew you can hear the
> motor but the tape does not move. The tape I tested did not get pulled.
>
> I am assuming it needs new capstan belts and idler tire.
>
> Should I order a belt kit from Marrs Comm? Is the process pretty straight
> forward? Are there any resources online explaining the repair? Are there
> any other tests or repairs I should do while the unit is open?
>
> Thanks for the help.
> -Andrew
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 17:12:38 -0600
From: "Rainer & Joy-Ell" <joyell.solie at sasktel.net>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] New member intro and BX-300 repair questions
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID: <002a01cde7ac$5463f300$440110ac at owner66fc96eb0>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Andrew, try head phones in headphone jack, might give a further clue as what
the problem is. So problem occured right after replacing idler tire ?
Whenever I hear heavey static when adjusting an output pot I think ground
problem. 

Cheers and Happy New Year,
Rainer
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: drucyphr 
  To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 2:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [naktalk] New member intro and BX-300 repair questions


  I finally got the idler tire replaced in my BX-300. I encountered a couple
of hiccups in the process, all related to the tiny washer that holds the
idler hub on the shaft. After struggling to remove the washer, it went
flying into the unit somewhere never to be found again. I ordered a
replacement, and then struggled to install it back on the shaft. All said
and done the repair did fix my initial problem and the transport now works.


  Now I have a new problem. When playing a cassette, the master output shows
a stereo signal but there is no sound. Adjusting the volume output slider
causes heavy static noises. I am going to disassemble the front panel and
spray the volume slide pot with Deoxit D5 and Faderlube F5.


  If anyone has any recommendations on any other possible problems/solutions
please respond.


  Thanks and happy New Years!


  -Andrew



  On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

    > Besides visually inspecting the idler to see if it uses a rubber tire
or gear, is there another way to check? Perhaps using the serial number?


    Not really. The gear update was available as a replacement part for
decks
    that originally came with a rubber idler and there's no telling whether
your 

    deck was upgraded without actually looking. The rubber design was poor 

    (you can almost call it a mistake) -- it required a tire replacement
every 

    couple of years in average use. The gear totally fixed the problem. 



    -- Ron









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      From: drucyphr <drucyphr at gmail.com>
      To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
      Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 3:16 PM
      Subject: Re: [naktalk] New member intro and BX-300 repair questions



      Thanks for the replies. I will inspect the takeup hub and idler today.
I went ahead and ordered an idler tire from ESL, so if that is the problem I
will have the part handy to make the repair.

      Besides visually inspecting the idler to see if it uses a rubber tire
or gear, is there another way to check? Perhaps using the serial number? I
am kind of curious what year my unit was manufactured.


      I'll post back with results, thanks for all the help.

      -Andrew


      On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:


        The BX-300 utilizes a Sankyo dual capstan Direct Drive transport.
The take up capstan is direct 
        driven, the supply capstan is belt  driven. During PLAY, the takeup
hub is driven through an idler. 
        Originally, that was a rubber idler, which was later upgraded to a
gear idler.

        I doubt very much your problem has to do with the supply capstan
belt. What you describe sounds 
        like a take up problem. If your deck has the rubber idler, the cause
could be mechanical (a bad or
        glazed idler) It could also be electrical  (a bad reel motor, fault
in the the drive electronics or simply 
        incorrect torque adjustment). If your deck uses a gear idler, it's
unlikely the problem is mechanical, 
        as these idlers tend to live forever.

        So, don't order anything right now. First, remove the cassette back
plate (two tiny screws on top of 
        the plate) and inspect the transport. If you see the rubber idler,
put the deck to PLAY mode (no 
        cassette in the well) and hinder the takeup hub movement with the
tip of a finger. If you observe 
        slippage between the pulley and idler or idler and hub, clean all
mating surfaces very thoroughly. If 
        that doesn't do the trick, then replace the idler tire. 

        Let us know hoe you're doing,

        -- Ron







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          From: drucyphr <drucyphr at gmail.com>
          To: naktalk at naks.com 
          Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 10:10 AM
          Subject: [naktalk] New member intro and BX-300 repair questions



          Hello Naks, new member here.


          A little about my Nak. I just received my first Nakamichi deck
after doing a bit of research and shopping around online. I found a gently
used one-owner BX-300. The owner thought it was in 100% working order when
he listed it for sale, but after testing it he realized it was pulling tape.
I talked the owner into selling it to me as a non-working unit for a decent
price. I have worked on cassette decks before, but never on a Nakamichi.


          The deck powers on. You can hear a motor noise when it turns on.
All the lights work. With a cassette in the deck, when you press play the
reel spins for a second and then stops. With the FFwd and Rew you can hear
the motor but the tape does not move. The tape I tested did not get pulled.


          I am assuming it needs new capstan belts and idler tire..


          Should I order a belt kit from Marrs Comm? Is the process pretty
straight forward? Are there any resources online explaining the repair? Are
there any other tests or repairs I should do while the unit is open?


          Thanks for the help.
          -Andrew


 
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:25:52 -0800 (PST)
From: fripp_em <fripp_em at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] WTB: Nakamichi SRC-1 cable
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
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Also you probably want to look at the wiki page for the remote control
reference doc.
http://download.naks.com/servicebulletins/RemoteControlReference.pdf




________________________________
 From: andreikho <andrei_kho at hotmail.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 5:01 PM
Subject: [naktalk] WTB: Nakamichi SRC-1 cable
 

 
Looking for a Nakamichi SRC-1 cable; in fact need two but If you have only
one it's fine. 

This is a cable to connect many Nakamichi decks, some of CD Players and ST-7
tuner with control preamp or receiver. It has 8-pin DIN male sockets on both
ends. 
Andrei 

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From jmlevitz at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  1 18:57:07 2013
From: jmlevitz at yahoo.com (Jayson Levitz)
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 09:57:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] Tape Head Maintenance
In-Reply-To: <201301011712.r01HBdA8010550@zxe.naks.com>
References: <201301011109.r01B88jS009829@zxe.naks.com>
	<201301011712.r01HBdA8010550@zxe.naks.com>
Message-ID: <1357063027.97168.YahooMailNeo@web140605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

This video has misinformation. DO NOT use alcohol on the rubber rollers.  Use American Recorder S-721H, which is a professional cleaning fluid and is safe for use on all metal and plastic tape heads, guides and rubber parts.

Jayson 




________________________________
 From: RSB <tr463rsb at comcast.net>
To: naktalk at naks.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2013 10:56 AM
Subject: [naktalk] Tape Head Maintenance
 
For those that are interested (I posted a question on this earlier), here is
a pretty good source for cleaning and demagnetizing tape heads.   I would
not recommend the demag process unless you know there is an issue, like high
frequency loss.  Good info for keeping up our old Naks, esp playing all
those old tapes ;-).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2LQr63X7lk

Ciao

Rob

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Of naktalk-request at naks.com
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To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: Naktalk Digest, Vol 119, Issue 1

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   2. Re: WTB: Nakamichi SRC-1 cable (Scott Johnson)
   3. Re: New member intro and BX-300 repair questions (drucyphr)
   4. Re: New member intro and BX-300 repair questions
      (Rainer & Joy-Ell)
   5. Re: WTB: Nakamichi SRC-1 cable (fripp_em)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 20:40:30 -0800 (PST)
From: fripp_em <fripp_em at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] WTB: Nakamichi SRC-1 cable
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID:
    <1356928831.70863.YahooMailNeo at web163903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NAKAMICHI-ORIGINAL-SRC-1-CASSETTE-DECK-CABLE-/300335
338750



________________________________
From: andrei kho <andrei_kho at hotmail.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 5:01 PM
Subject: [naktalk] WTB: Nakamichi SRC-1 cable



Looking for a Nakamichi SRC-1 cable; in fact need two but If you have only
one it's fine. 

This is a cable to connect many Nakamichi decks, some of CD Players and ST-7
tuner with control preamp or receiver. It has 8-pin DIN male sockets on both
ends. 
Andrei 
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Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 10:15:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Scott Johnson <p9019 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] WTB: Nakamichi SRC-1 cable
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

The SRC-1 is only for connecting tape decks to compatible preamp or
receivers like the CA-7 or TA-series.  That cable is not for CD Players or
the ST-7 tuner.  The CD player uses a different shape DIN-8 connect and the
tuner uses a DIN-7.

I have custom made all three types of these cables for people for less than
the cost of the genuine SRC-1.

Scott

--- On Sun, 12/30/12, andrei kho <andrei_kho at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: andrei kho <andrei_kho at hotmail.com>
Subject: [naktalk] WTB: Nakamichi SRC-1 cable
To: naktalk at naks.com
Date: Sunday, December 30, 2012, 5:01 PM







Looking for a Nakamichi SRC-1 cable; in fact need two but If you have only
one it's fine. 

This is a cable to connect many Nakamichi decks, some of CD Players and ST-7
tuner with control preamp or receiver. It has 8-pin DIN male sockets on both
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Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:53:41 -0600
From: drucyphr <drucyphr at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] New member intro and BX-300 repair questions
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
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I finally got the idler tire replaced in my BX-300. I encountered a couple
of hiccups in the process, all related to the tiny washer that holds the
idler hub on the shaft. After struggling to remove the washer, it went
flying into the unit somewhere never to be found again. I ordered a
replacement, and then struggled to install it back on the shaft. All said
and done the repair did fix my initial problem and the transport now works.

Now I have a new problem. When playing a cassette, the master output shows
a stereo signal but there is no sound. Adjusting the volume output slider
causes heavy static noises. I am going to disassemble the front panel and
spray the volume slide pot with Deoxit D5 and Faderlube F5.

If anyone has any recommendations on any other possible problems/solutions
please respond.

Thanks and happy New Years!

-Andrew


On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

> > Besides visually inspecting the idler to see if it uses a rubber tire
> or gear, is there another way to check? Perhaps using the serial number?
>
> Not really. The gear update was available as a replacement part for decks
> that originally came with a rubber idler and there's no telling whether
> your
> deck was upgraded without actually looking. The rubber design was poor
> (you can almost call it a mistake) -- it required a tire replacement every
> couple of years in average use. The gear totally fixed the problem.
>
> -- Ron
>
>
>
>
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* drucyphr <drucyphr at gmail.com>
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 10, 2012 3:16 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] New member intro and BX-300 repair questions
>
> Thanks for the replies. I will inspect the takeup hub and idler today. I
> went ahead and ordered an idler tire from ESL, so if that is the problem I
> will have the part handy to make the repair.
>
> Besides visually inspecting the idler to see if it uses a rubber tire or
> gear, is there another way to check? Perhaps using the serial number? I am
> kind of curious what year my unit was manufactured.
>
> I'll post back with results, thanks for all the help.
>
> -Andrew
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> The BX-300 utilizes a Sankyo dual capstan Direct Drive transport. The take
> up capstan is direct
> driven, the supply capstan is belt  driven. During PLAY, the takeup hub is
> driven through an idler.
> Originally, that was a rubber idler, which was later upgraded to a gear
> idler.
>
> I doubt very much your problem has to do with the supply capstan belt.
> What you describe sounds
> like a take up problem. If your deck has the rubber idler, the cause could
> be mechanical (a bad or
> glazed idler) It could also be electrical  (a bad reel motor, fault in the
> the drive electronics or simply
> incorrect torque adjustment). If your deck uses a gear idler, it's
> unlikely the problem is mechanical,
> as these idlers tend to live forever.
>
> So, don't order anything right now. First, remove the cassette back plate
> (two tiny screws on top of
> the plate) and inspect the transport. If you see the rubber idler, put the
> deck to PLAY mode (no
> cassette in the well) and hinder the takeup hub movement with the tip of a
> finger. If you observe
> slippage between the pulley and idler or idler and hub, clean all mating
> surfaces very thoroughly. If
> that doesn't do the trick, then replace the idler tire.
>
> Let us know hoe you're doing,
>
> -- Ron
>
>
>
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* drucyphr <drucyphr at gmail.com>
> *To:* naktalk at naks.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 6, 2012 10:10 AM
> *Subject:* [naktalk] New member intro and BX-300 repair questions
>
> Hello Naks, new member here.
>
> A little about my Nak. I just received my first Nakamichi deck after doing
> a bit of research and shopping around online. I found a gently used
> one-owner BX-300. The owner thought it was in 100% working order when he
> listed it for sale, but after testing it he realized it was pulling tape.
I
> talked the owner into selling it to me as a non-working unit for a decent
> price. I have worked on cassette decks before, but never on a Nakamichi.
>
> The deck powers on. You can hear a motor noise when it turns on. All the
> lights work. With a cassette in the deck, when you press play the reel
> spins for a second and then stops. With the FFwd and Rew you can hear the
> motor but the tape does not move. The tape I tested did not get pulled.
>
> I am assuming it needs new capstan belts and idler tire.
>
> Should I order a belt kit from Marrs Comm? Is the process pretty straight
> forward? Are there any resources online explaining the repair? Are there
> any other tests or repairs I should do while the unit is open?
>
> Thanks for the help.
> -Andrew
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Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 17:12:38 -0600
From: "Rainer & Joy-Ell" <joyell.solie at sasktel.net>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] New member intro and BX-300 repair questions
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
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Andrew, try head phones in headphone jack, might give a further clue as what
the problem is. So problem occured right after replacing idler tire ?
Whenever I hear heavey static when adjusting an output pot I think ground
problem. 

Cheers and Happy New Year,
Rainer
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: drucyphr 
  To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 2:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [naktalk] New member intro and BX-300 repair questions


  I finally got the idler tire replaced in my BX-300. I encountered a couple
of hiccups in the process, all related to the tiny washer that holds the
idler hub on the shaft. After struggling to remove the washer, it went
flying into the unit somewhere never to be found again. I ordered a
replacement, and then struggled to install it back on the shaft. All said
and done the repair did fix my initial problem and the transport now works.


  Now I have a new problem. When playing a cassette, the master output shows
a stereo signal but there is no sound. Adjusting the volume output slider
causes heavy static noises. I am going to disassemble the front panel and
spray the volume slide pot with Deoxit D5 and Faderlube F5.


  If anyone has any recommendations on any other possible problems/solutions
please respond.


  Thanks and happy New Years!


  -Andrew



  On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

    > Besides visually inspecting the idler to see if it uses a rubber tire
or gear, is there another way to check? Perhaps using the serial number?


    Not really. The gear update was available as a replacement part for
decks
    that originally came with a rubber idler and there's no telling whether
your 

    deck was upgraded without actually looking. The rubber design was poor 

    (you can almost call it a mistake) -- it required a tire replacement
every 

    couple of years in average use. The gear totally fixed the problem. 



    -- Ron









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      From: drucyphr <drucyphr at gmail.com>
      To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
      Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 3:16 PM
      Subject: Re: [naktalk] New member intro and BX-300 repair questions



      Thanks for the replies. I will inspect the takeup hub and idler today.
I went ahead and ordered an idler tire from ESL, so if that is the problem I
will have the part handy to make the repair.

      Besides visually inspecting the idler to see if it uses a rubber tire
or gear, is there another way to check? Perhaps using the serial number? I
am kind of curious what year my unit was manufactured.


      I'll post back with results, thanks for all the help.

      -Andrew


      On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:


        The BX-300 utilizes a Sankyo dual capstan Direct Drive transport.
The take up capstan is direct 
        driven, the supply capstan is belt  driven. During PLAY, the takeup
hub is driven through an idler. 
        Originally, that was a rubber idler, which was later upgraded to a
gear idler.

        I doubt very much your problem has to do with the supply capstan
belt. What you describe sounds 
        like a take up problem. If your deck has the rubber idler, the cause
could be mechanical (a bad or
        glazed idler) It could also be electrical  (a bad reel motor, fault
in the the drive electronics or simply 
        incorrect torque adjustment). If your deck uses a gear idler, it's
unlikely the problem is mechanical, 
        as these idlers tend to live forever.

        So, don't order anything right now. First, remove the cassette back
plate (two tiny screws on top of 
        the plate) and inspect the transport. If you see the rubber idler,
put the deck to PLAY mode (no 
        cassette in the well) and hinder the takeup hub movement with the
tip of a finger. If you observe 
        slippage between the pulley and idler or idler and hub, clean all
mating surfaces very thoroughly. If 
        that doesn't do the trick, then replace the idler tire. 

        Let us know hoe you're doing,

        -- Ron







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          From: drucyphr <drucyphr at gmail.com>
          To: naktalk at naks.com 
          Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 10:10 AM
          Subject: [naktalk] New member intro and BX-300 repair questions



          Hello Naks, new member here.


          A little about my Nak. I just received my first Nakamichi deck
after doing a bit of research and shopping around online. I found a gently
used one-owner BX-300. The owner thought it was in 100% working order when
he listed it for sale, but after testing it he realized it was pulling tape.
I talked the owner into selling it to me as a non-working unit for a decent
price. I have worked on cassette decks before, but never on a Nakamichi.


          The deck powers on. You can hear a motor noise when it turns on.
All the lights work. With a cassette in the deck, when you press play the
reel spins for a second and then stops. With the FFwd and Rew you can hear
the motor but the tape does not move. The tape I tested did not get pulled.


          I am assuming it needs new capstan belts and idler tire..


          Should I order a belt kit from Marrs Comm? Is the process pretty
straight forward? Are there any resources online explaining the repair? Are
there any other tests or repairs I should do while the unit is open?


          Thanks for the help.
          -Andrew



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Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:25:52 -0800 (PST)
From: fripp_em <fripp_em at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] WTB: Nakamichi SRC-1 cable
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
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Also you probably want to look at the wiki page for the remote control
reference doc.
http://download.naks.com/servicebulletins/RemoteControlReference.pdf




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From: andreikho <andrei_kho at hotmail.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 5:01 PM
Subject: [naktalk] WTB: Nakamichi SRC-1 cable



Looking for a Nakamichi SRC-1 cable; in fact need two but If you have only
one it's fine. 

This is a cable to connect many Nakamichi decks, some of CD Players and ST-7
tuner with control preamp or receiver. It has 8-pin DIN male sockets on both
ends. 
Andrei 

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From shantiram2000 at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  1 20:05:31 2013
From: shantiram2000 at yahoo.com (shanti ramachandran)
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 11:05:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] Tape Head Maintenance
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Message-ID: <1357067131.26458.YahooMailClassic@web120904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>


I agree with Jayson. I would never use isopropyl alcohol on my rollers and yet never use 70% alcohol on any part of my decks.  S-721H is superb and safe.

Ram.


--- On Tue, 1/1/13, Jayson Levitz <jmlevitz at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Jayson Levitz <jmlevitz at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Tape Head Maintenance
> To: "tr463rsb at comcast.net" <tr463rsb at comcast.net>, "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
> Date: Tuesday, January 1, 2013, 12:57 PM
> This video has
> misinformation. DO NOT use alcohol on the rubber
> rollers.  Use American Recorder S-721H, which is a
> professional cleaning fluid and is safe for use on all metal
> and plastic tape heads, guides and rubber parts.
> 
> Jayson  
> 
> 
>        
> From: RSB
> <tr463rsb at comcast.net>
>  To:
> naktalk at naks.com 
>  Sent:
> Tuesday, January 1, 2013 10:56 AM
>  Subject:
> [naktalk] Tape
>  Head Maintenance
>    
> For those that are interested (I posted a question on this
> earlier), here is
> a pretty good source for cleaning and demagnetizing tape
> heads.   I would
> not recommend the demag process unless you know there is an
> issue, like high
> frequency loss.  Good info for keeping up our old Naks,
> esp playing all
> those old tapes ;-).
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2LQr63X7lk
> 
> Ciao
> 
> Rob
> 
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>    3. Re: New member intro and BX-300 repair questions
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 20:40:30 -0800 (PST)
> From: fripp_em <fripp_em at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] WTB: Nakamichi SRC-1 cable
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> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NAKAMICHI-ORIGINAL-SRC-1-CASSETTE-DECK-CABLE-/300335
> 338750
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: andrei kho <andrei_kho at hotmail.com>
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> 
> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 5:01 PM
> Subject: [naktalk] WTB: Nakamichi SRC-1 cable
>  
> 
>  
> Looking
>  for a Nakamichi SRC-1 cable; in fact need two but If you
> have only
> one it's fine. 
> 
> This is a cable to connect many Nakamichi decks, some of CD
> Players and ST-7
> tuner with control preamp or receiver. It has 8-pin DIN male
> sockets on both
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> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 10:15:02 -0800 (PST)
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> Subject: Re: [naktalk] WTB: Nakamichi SRC-1 cable
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> The SRC-1 is only for connecting tape decks to compatible
> preamp or
> receivers like the CA-7 or TA-series.  That cable is
> not for CD Players or
> the ST-7 tuner.  The CD player uses a different shape
> DIN-8 connect and the
> tuner uses a DIN-7.
>  
> I have custom made all three types of these cables for
> people for less than
> the cost of the genuine SRC-1.
>  
> Scott
> 
> --- On Sun, 12/30/12, andrei kho <andrei_kho at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: andrei kho
>  <andrei_kho at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [naktalk] WTB: Nakamichi SRC-1 cable
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Date: Sunday, December 30, 2012, 5:01 PM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Looking for a Nakamichi SRC-1 cable; in fact need two but If
> you have only
> one it's fine. 
> 
> This is a cable to connect many Nakamichi decks, some of CD
> Players and ST-7
> tuner with control preamp or receiver. It has 8-pin DIN male
> sockets on both
> ends. 
> Andrei 
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> From: drucyphr <drucyphr at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] New member intro and BX-300 repair
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> I finally got the idler tire replaced in my BX-300. I
> encountered a couple
> of hiccups in the process, all related to the tiny washer
> that holds the
> idler hub on the shaft. After struggling to remove the
> washer, it went
> flying into the unit somewhere never to be found