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From rocco.bertels at telenet.be  Mon Apr  7 22:28:27 2014
From: rocco.bertels at telenet.be (Rocco Bertels)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 22:28:27 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
Message-ID: <1401313858.56793271.1396902507273.JavaMail.root@telenet.be>

Hi, 


I'm helping out digitizing the cassette archives of Art Pepper (a great jazz artist), but unfortunately, the Nakamichi Dragon I was using has stopped working. 
Does anyone know of a repair guy in LA who could help me out with this? 
It's kind of urgent as I'll only be in LA for the rest of the week... 

Thanks! 

Rocco 
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From maisiepat at yahoo.com  Tue Apr  8 09:44:14 2014
From: maisiepat at yahoo.com (Martin Dawson)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 08:44:14 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
In-Reply-To: <1401313858.56793271.1396902507273.JavaMail.root@telenet.be>
Message-ID: <1396943054.26794.YahooMailIosMobile@web28806.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>

Hi Guys,<br/><br/>Can anyone send me a copy of the service manual for my 581 Nak?<br/><br/>Regards, <br/>Martin<a href="https://overview.mail.yahoo.com?.src=iOS"><br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a>
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From alex2000ca at aol.com  Tue Apr  8 10:42:49 2014
From: alex2000ca at aol.com (Alex Karpov)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 01:42:49 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
In-Reply-To: <1401313858.56793271.1396902507273.JavaMail.root@telenet.be>
References: <1401313858.56793271.1396902507273.JavaMail.root@telenet.be>
Message-ID: <FB321978-D465-4C50-A218-E1F70DAA61C9@aol.com>

Hi !

I'm in Tarzana and I can try to help you.


Alex

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 7, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Rocco Bertels <rocco.bertels at telenet.be> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> I'm helping out digitizing the cassette archives of Art Pepper (a great jazz artist), but unfortunately, the Nakamichi Dragon I was using has stopped working.
> Does anyone know of a repair guy in LA who could help me out with this?
> It's kind of urgent as I'll only be in LA for the rest of the week...
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Rocco 
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From wheijke at xs4all.nl  Tue Apr  8 11:27:23 2014
From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 11:27:23 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
In-Reply-To: <1401313858.56793271.1396902507273.JavaMail.root@telenet.be>
References: <1401313858.56793271.1396902507273.JavaMail.root@telenet.be>
Message-ID: <7c14ecdaedb82a10c4d3340090e105d3.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>

Not exactly in LA, but maybe close enough..

http://willyhermannservices.com/

Wouter

> Hi,
>
>
> I'm helping out digitizing the cassette archives of Art Pepper (a great
> jazz artist), but unfortunately, the Nakamichi Dragon I was using has
> stopped working.
> Does anyone know of a repair guy in LA who could help me out with this?
> It's kind of urgent as I'll only be in LA for the rest of the week...
>
> Thanks!
>
> Rocco



From bglosi at tilkoblet.net  Tue Apr  8 13:58:43 2014
From: bglosi at tilkoblet.net (Birger Glosimot)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 13:58:43 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Belt service.
In-Reply-To: <7c14ecdaedb82a10c4d3340090e105d3.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
References: <1401313858.56793271.1396902507273.JavaMail.root@telenet.be>
	<7c14ecdaedb82a10c4d3340090e105d3.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <2DE6371D3FE84EFA8429A4E2EC6AEBC8@BirgerPC>

Before Christmas I ordered and paid for some replacement belts for marrs 
communications Inc.
I received a tracking number. But checking USPS, there were no shipment 
registered.

I contacted the company and was informed that he would send a replacement 
and also include a set of belts for one of my 1000 ZXL´s at no cost. Of 
course I was satisfied.

And again I received a tracking number. Again no item to be found when 
checking USPS. This time I mailed USPS and received answer that they had not 
registered that shipment.

I have tried several mails to the company, but no answer.

I understand this is a one man company and things may happen.

Anyone else that have any information?
The parcel was to be sent to family I Texas btw.

Birger (Norway) 



From bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk  Tue Apr  8 15:05:51 2014
From: bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk (Ben Stratford)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:05:51 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] 680zx Project
Message-ID: <DUB405-EAS2251A9C3C315120810EBAD3906B0@phx.gbl>

So far sections 1 to 6 of the S/M electrical adjustments completed. New caps in FL Meter and frequency adjusted to 25.6 kHz from 25.5 previously. 
Section 7 however requires 400hz test tape playback and 100mv to be measured at TP 101 (201) but values measured range between 90 and 110 but wont hold steady with a continual wandering up and down. I can adjust to get both levels wandering equally but the midpoint reads around 5db on the level meters at 100mv rather than the 0db target. Anyone have any clues as to why the wandering is occurring? Thanks ben


From willy at willyhermannservices.com  Tue Apr  8 17:34:09 2014
From: willy at willyhermannservices.com (Willy Hermann)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 08:34:09 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
In-Reply-To: <1401313858.56793271.1396902507273.JavaMail.root@telenet.be>
References: <1401313858.56793271.1396902507273.JavaMail.root@telenet.be>
Message-ID: <CAM9V8Mda1N2Lbo5Pswd1stpvFLRdCdOyhtHxMkLnd+56G+tNfw@mail.gmail.com>

Best of my knowledge there is nobody in the LA area.  I'm the closest and
do lots of work for people in the LA area.  I'm one day freight away.
Willy


On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Rocco Bertels <rocco.bertels at telenet.be>wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> I'm helping out digitizing the cassette archives of Art Pepper (a great
> jazz artist), but unfortunately, the Nakamichi Dragon I was using has
> stopped working.
> Does anyone know of a repair guy in LA who could help me out with this?
> It's kind of urgent as I'll only be in LA for the rest of the week...
>
> Thanks!
>
> Rocco
>
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From icsteelhead at gmail.com  Tue Apr  8 20:14:02 2014
From: icsteelhead at gmail.com (Larry Casey)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 10:14:02 -0800
Subject: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
In-Reply-To: <1401313858.56793271.1396902507273.JavaMail.root@telenet.be>
References: <1401313858.56793271.1396902507273.JavaMail.root@telenet.be>
Message-ID: <CAJ4erXk=r=d+Ux3ERYo2ctS2PfXpm2Z4r9Ega2tzueQAj5OOXg@mail.gmail.com>

Rocco,

Willy Herman is the man.  Highly recommend you contact him.

Good Luck,

Cheers, Steelhead


On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Rocco Bertels <rocco.bertels at telenet.be>wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> I'm helping out digitizing the cassette archives of Art Pepper (a great
> jazz artist), but unfortunately, the Nakamichi Dragon I was using has
> stopped working.
> Does anyone know of a repair guy in LA who could help me out with this?
> It's kind of urgent as I'll only be in LA for the rest of the week...
>
> Thanks!
>
> Rocco
>
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> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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From tnlaurence at gmail.com  Tue Apr  8 21:26:59 2014
From: tnlaurence at gmail.com (thomas laurence)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:26:59 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
In-Reply-To: <CAJ4erXk=r=d+Ux3ERYo2ctS2PfXpm2Z4r9Ega2tzueQAj5OOXg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1401313858.56793271.1396902507273.JavaMail.root@telenet.be>
	<CAJ4erXk=r=d+Ux3ERYo2ctS2PfXpm2Z4r9Ega2tzueQAj5OOXg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAC+9SMzz_cbb-r=XVPCGL_bUGJvReEm8ttpR+Arc1sp_wk98+A@mail.gmail.com>

Rocco,

Willy Hermann is the absolute Nakamichi master.
Let him take care of that Dragon!

Tom Laurence
Owner of three Willy Hermann serviced Naks


On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Larry Casey <icsteelhead at gmail.com> wrote:

> Rocco,
>
> Willy Herman is the man.  Highly recommend you contact him.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Cheers, Steelhead
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Rocco Bertels <rocco.bertels at telenet.be>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> I'm helping out digitizing the cassette archives of Art Pepper (a great
>> jazz artist), but unfortunately, the Nakamichi Dragon I was using has
>> stopped working.
>> Does anyone know of a repair guy in LA who could help me out with this?
>> It's kind of urgent as I'll only be in LA for the rest of the week...
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Rocco
>>
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>                         Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
>> Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>
>
>
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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From avss01 at gmail.com  Tue Apr  8 22:45:03 2014
From: avss01 at gmail.com (avss01)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 13:45:03 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Belt service.
In-Reply-To: <2DE6371D3FE84EFA8429A4E2EC6AEBC8@BirgerPC>
References: <1401313858.56793271.1396902507273.JavaMail.root@telenet.be>
	<7c14ecdaedb82a10c4d3340090e105d3.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
	<2DE6371D3FE84EFA8429A4E2EC6AEBC8@BirgerPC>
Message-ID: <CAES7Nr2yH8p4X48utUPLRwneTkRtVLtbGqKJf1nqhpy4AXR0_w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Birger

This sounds like issues with the postal system somewhere.  I can only say
that I and many others here use Marrs Communications exclusively for our
Nak belts and from my personal experience at least, I can say he and his
service has been perfectly reliable.  Maybe something is wrong now for what
ever reason, but Fred has been helping to support our hobby for a long
time.  Hope you can sort this out.

David


>

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From wheijke at xs4all.nl  Tue Apr  8 23:15:06 2014
From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 23:15:06 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Belt service.
In-Reply-To: <2DE6371D3FE84EFA8429A4E2EC6AEBC8@BirgerPC>
References: <1401313858.56793271.1396902507273.JavaMail.root@telenet.be>
	<7c14ecdaedb82a10c4d3340090e105d3.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
	<2DE6371D3FE84EFA8429A4E2EC6AEBC8@BirgerPC>
Message-ID: <10a00eed6ec1a7128ea92525f75a6e10.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>

Fred used to be a member, but I see now that his email was disabled by
himself...

Sounds like a familiar story where once active members, "move on".....

Wouter

> Before Christmas I ordered and paid for some replacement belts for marrs
> communications Inc.
> I received a tracking number. But checking USPS, there were no shipment
> registered.
>
> I contacted the company and was informed that he would send a replacement
> and also include a set of belts for one of my 1000 ZXL´s at no cost. Of
> course I was satisfied.
>
> And again I received a tracking number. Again no item to be found when
> checking USPS. This time I mailed USPS and received answer that they had
> not
> registered that shipment.
>
> I have tried several mails to the company, but no answer.
>
> I understand this is a one man company and things may happen.
>
> Anyone else that have any information?
> The parcel was to be sent to family I Texas btw.
>
> Birger (Norway)





From davidt124 at internode.on.net  Wed Apr  9 00:57:44 2014
From: davidt124 at internode.on.net (David Thompson)
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2014 08:57:44 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] Interest rates
Message-ID: <CF6ABC08.1F1E2%davidt124@internode.on.net>

Interesting

http://theconversation.com/why-your-bank-account-should-come-with-a-risk-rat
ing-25275?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Latest+from+The+Conversation+for+9+A
pril+2014&utm_content=Latest+from+The+Conversation+for+9+April+2014+CID_4bbd
0a6f6eeb3c8a3d8719978ad1547f&utm_source=campaign_monitor&utm_term=Why%20your
%20bank%20account%20should%20come%20with%20a%20risk%20rating



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From rkrause at multiplan.com.br  Wed Apr  9 03:29:55 2014
From: rkrause at multiplan.com.br (Rodrigo Krause)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 01:29:55 +0000
Subject: Res: Re: [naktalk] Belt service.
In-Reply-To: <10a00eed6ec1a7128ea92525f75a6e10.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <2DA1DAF07B14404E8CBE5DA5683381FB17FF9E@STVTEX05>

You can reach him throuh his website. He does take some time to answer back (and he mentions it there). I have always gotten everything I asked from him. Try again and I'm sure he'll answer back.
Good luck!

Rodrigo
Rodrigo Krause dos S. R.
 Relações com Investidores
Multiplan  S.A.
+55 21 3031-5600

----- Mensagem original -----
De: naktalk-bounces at naks.com <naktalk-bounces at naks.com>
Para: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Enviada em: Tue Apr 08 18:15:06 2014
Assunto: Re: [naktalk] Belt service.

Fred used to be a member, but I see now that his email was disabled by
himself...

Sounds like a familiar story where once active members, "move on".....

Wouter

> Before Christmas I ordered and paid for some replacement belts for marrs
> communications Inc.
> I received a tracking number. But checking USPS, there were no shipment
> registered.
>
> I contacted the company and was informed that he would send a replacement
> and also include a set of belts for one of my 1000 ZXL´s at no cost. Of
> course I was satisfied.
>
> And again I received a tracking number. Again no item to be found when
> checking USPS. This time I mailed USPS and received answer that they had
> not
> registered that shipment.
>
> I have tried several mails to the company, but no answer.
>
> I understand this is a one man company and things may happen.
>
> Anyone else that have any information?
> The parcel was to be sent to family I Texas btw.
>
> Birger (Norway)



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From kapro at kapro.sk  Wed Apr  9 08:29:45 2014
From: kapro at kapro.sk (Ivan Karas)
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2014 08:29:45 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Belt service.
In-Reply-To: <2DE6371D3FE84EFA8429A4E2EC6AEBC8@BirgerPC>
References: <1401313858.56793271.1396902507273.JavaMail.root@telenet.be>	<7c14ecdaedb82a10c4d3340090e105d3.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
	<2DE6371D3FE84EFA8429A4E2EC6AEBC8@BirgerPC>
Message-ID: <5344E8D9.6020006@kapro.sk>

hi,
I have the same experience. On 4th. Jan. I paid for 6 sets of belts + 
shipping cost and haven't received anything yet. I got the tracking 
number from Fred after I pressed him through tapeheads.net but nothing 
has been sent so far. On the USPS page I got a message "Electronic 
shipping info received" but nothing has been really sent.
Ivan


From bglosi at tilkoblet.net  Wed Apr  9 10:08:41 2014
From: bglosi at tilkoblet.net (Birger Glosimot)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 10:08:41 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Belt service. Ok.Seem someting must have happened
In-Reply-To: <5344E8D9.6020006@kapro.sk>
References: <1401313858.56793271.1396902507273.JavaMail.root@telenet.be>	<7c14ecdaedb82a10c4d3340090e105d3.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl><2DE6371D3FE84EFA8429A4E2EC6AEBC8@BirgerPC>
	<5344E8D9.6020006@kapro.sk>
Message-ID: <5FF008A50AC149F28EFEAD31E2D4F2FE@BirgerPC>

Ok, then Ivan has the same expirience and also during the same time, so if 
anyone have a better contact possibility, than the mail trough his home 
page, pleas let us know.

Birger

-----Opprinnelig melding----- 
From: Ivan Karas
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 8:29 AM
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Belt service.

hi,
I have the same experience. On 4th. Jan. I paid for 6 sets of belts +
shipping cost and haven't received anything yet. I got the tracking
number from Fred after I pressed him through tapeheads.net but nothing
has been sent so far. On the USPS page I got a message "Electronic
shipping info received" but nothing has been really sent.
Ivan
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From hockeyeast at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  9 11:55:09 2014
From: hockeyeast at yahoo.com (Rich)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 05:55:09 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] digitizing cassettes 
In-Reply-To: <201404091048.s39AdPEw001754@zxe.naks.com>
References: <201404091048.s39AdPEw001754@zxe.naks.com>
Message-ID: <0F7D6755-E1DC-4A7A-A4DB-F0CCF27885B2@yahoo.com>

How do you go about digitizing cassettes? I have a zx-9 and a ton of cassettes. Always amazed at how they sound on my zx-9. What do you need to accomplish that task? 

Rich

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 9, 2014, at 6:48 AM, naktalk-request at naks.com wrote:
> 
> digitizing the



From vidguy_me at hotmail.com  Wed Apr  9 17:33:48 2014
From: vidguy_me at hotmail.com (vidguy vidguy)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 15:33:48 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] Belt service. Ok.Seem someting must have happened
In-Reply-To: <5FF008A50AC149F28EFEAD31E2D4F2FE@BirgerPC>
References: <1401313858.56793271.1396902507273.JavaMail.root@telenet.be>
	<7c14ecdaedb82a10c4d3340090e105d3.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl><2DE6371D3FE84EFA8429A4E2EC6AEBC8@BirgerPC>,
	<5344E8D9.6020006@kapro.sk>,
	<5FF008A50AC149F28EFEAD31E2D4F2FE@BirgerPC>
Message-ID: <SNT149-W65DF4DC7B1AB1F7B24FA9B886A0@phx.gbl>

Some thing happened to me.
I ordered 2 Belt Kits.
No response for 5 weeks.

I opened a Paypal Case, Fred got back the VERY next day.
Told me the stuff was shipping.

They arrived, and were the wrong belts!

I've dealt with Fred before, but not anymore.
He has the correct belts for Nakamichi, but if I can't get them.. what's the use.

> From: bglosi at tilkoblet.net
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Belt service. Ok.Seem someting must have happened
> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 10:08:41 +0200
> 
> Ok, then Ivan has the same expirience and also during the same time, so if 
> anyone have a better contact possibility, than the mail trough his home 
> page, pleas let us know.
> 
> Birger
> 
> -----Opprinnelig melding----- 
> From: Ivan Karas
> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 8:29 AM
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Belt service.
> 
> hi,
> I have the same experience. On 4th. Jan. I paid for 6 sets of belts +
> shipping cost and haven't received anything yet. I got the tracking
> number from Fred after I pressed him through tapeheads.net but nothing
> has been sent so far. On the USPS page I got a message "Electronic
> shipping info received" but nothing has been really sent.
> Ivan
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From mech986 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 10 02:42:45 2014
From: mech986 at yahoo.com (Bart)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 17:42:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Belt service.
In-Reply-To: <5344E8D9.6020006@kapro.sk>
References: <1401313858.56793271.1396902507273.JavaMail.root@telenet.be>	<7c14ecdaedb82a10c4d3340090e105d3.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>	<2DE6371D3FE84EFA8429A4E2EC6AEBC8@BirgerPC>
	<5344E8D9.6020006@kapro.sk>
Message-ID: <1397090565.19933.YahooMailNeo@web181701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Today from Marrs website:

4-9-14  8:00 AM
                                                                 STORE CLOSED
 
                                                         NOT ACCEPTING ORDERS
 
 
                          PROCESSING THE LAST OF THE BACKLOG ORDERS !

 
 
NO REPLIES TO EMAIL THIS WEEK. FINISHING THE LAST OF THE BACKLOGGED ORDERSONLY
 
 
 
Order processing and shipping procedures as explained under " The Fine Print ", now in Place.
 
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
 
4-9-14 Backlog Status !

 
All January through March "Backlog Orders"  will be Shipped within 7 Days Business Days !

 
 4-9-14   Orders Mailed to Date April      : 273  ( Kits Made, Orders Mailed )

 4-9-14   Current: Orders to be Shipped: 127  ( Kits to be Made and Orders to be Mailed ) 


 
>>>>>>     SHIPPING TOTALS FOR MARCH     :  631 KITS BUILT, 631 ORDERS MAILED     <<<<<<
>>>>>>     SHIPPING TOTALS FOR FEBRUARY:  696 KITS BUILT,696 ORDERS MAILED     <<<<<<
 
Regards,

Bart


>________________________________
> From: Ivan Karas <kapro at kapro.sk>
>To: naktalk at naks.com 
>Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2014 11:29 PM
>Subject: Re: [naktalk] Belt service.
> 
>
>hi,
>I have the same experience. On 4th. Jan. I paid for 6 sets of belts + 
>shipping cost and haven't received anything yet. I got the tracking 
>number from Fred after I pressed him through tapeheads.net but nothing 
>has been sent so far. On the USPS page I got a message "Electronic 
>shipping info received" but nothing has been really sent.
>Ivan
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From daniel.botelho at gmail.com  Thu Apr 10 10:30:40 2014
From: daniel.botelho at gmail.com (Daniel Botelho)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 04:30:40 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Belt service. Ok.Seem someting must have happened
In-Reply-To: <SNT149-W65DF4DC7B1AB1F7B24FA9B886A0@phx.gbl>
References: <1401313858.56793271.1396902507273.JavaMail.root@telenet.be>
	<7c14ecdaedb82a10c4d3340090e105d3.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
	<2DE6371D3FE84EFA8429A4E2EC6AEBC8@BirgerPC>
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That is not good.  I ordered a belt a week ago for my nak CD1, and have not
heard anything as of yet.

Why do I get the feeling I'm going to get screwed?... :(


On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 11:33 AM, vidguy vidguy <vidguy_me at hotmail.com>wrote:

> Some thing happened to me.
> I ordered 2 Belt Kits.
> No response for 5 weeks.
>
> I opened a Paypal Case, Fred got back the VERY next day.
> Told me the stuff was shipping.
>
> They arrived, and were the wrong belts!
>
> I've dealt with Fred before, but not anymore.
> He has the correct belts for Nakamichi, but if I can't get them.. what's
> the use.
>
> > From: bglosi at tilkoblet.net
> > To: naktalk at naks.com
> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Belt service. Ok.Seem someting must have happened
> > Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 10:08:41 +0200
>
> >
> > Ok, then Ivan has the same expirience and also during the same time, so
> if
> > anyone have a better contact possibility, than the mail trough his home
> > page, pleas let us know.
> >
> > Birger
> >
> > -----Opprinnelig melding-----
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> > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 8:29 AM
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> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Belt service.
> >
> > hi,
> > I have the same experience. On 4th. Jan. I paid for 6 sets of belts +
> > shipping cost and haven't received anything yet. I got the tracking
> > number from Fred after I pressed him through tapeheads.net but nothing
> > has been sent so far. On the USPS page I got a message "Electronic
> > shipping info received" but nothing has been really sent.
> > Ivan
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From maisiepat at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 10 13:01:41 2014
From: maisiepat at yahoo.com (Martin Dawson)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 12:01:41 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [naktalk] Belt service. Ok.Seem someting must have happened
In-Reply-To: <SNT149-W65DF4DC7B1AB1F7B24FA9B886A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1397127701.12862.YahooMailIosMobile@web28803.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>

Hi Guys,<br/><br/>Further to my previous email has anyone got a copy of a service manual for my Nakamichi 581 cassette deck please?<br/><br/>Regards,<br/><br/>Martin <a href="https://overview.mail.yahoo.com?.src=iOS"><br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a>
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From mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk  Thu Apr 10 16:14:36 2014
From: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk (Mercedes Benz)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 15:14:36 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Belt service.
Message-ID: <SNT404-EAS51FD3D1BA192317A70D673B6550@phx.gbl>

Hi Birger,

Just checked marrscommunications.com today and it says "Store Closed" dated 4-9-14 8:00AM. It also says "Not accepting orders" and "Processing the last of the backlog orders".

Regards
Nadeem

Sent from my killer Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Birger Glosimot
Sent: 08/04/2014 13:39
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: [naktalk] Belt service.

Before Christmas I ordered and paid for some replacement belts for marrs
communications Inc.
I received a tracking number. But checking USPS, there were no shipment
registered.

I contacted the company and was informed that he would send a replacement
and also include a set of belts for one of my 1000 ZXL´s at no cost. Of
course I was satisfied.

And again I received a tracking number. Again no item to be found when
checking USPS. This time I mailed USPS and received answer that they had not
registered that shipment.

I have tried several mails to the company, but no answer.

I understand this is a one man company and things may happen.

Anyone else that have any information?
The parcel was to be sent to family I Texas btw.

Birger (Norway)

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From bglosi at tilkoblet.net  Thu Apr 10 17:16:10 2014
From: bglosi at tilkoblet.net (Birger Glosimot)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 17:16:10 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Belt service.
In-Reply-To: <SNT404-EAS51FD3D1BA192317A70D673B6550@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT404-EAS51FD3D1BA192317A70D673B6550@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1FAE92C803444AA2B7E30925BD7796F0@BirgerPC>

Hi Nadeem

That is what says there from time to time, but It is now approx 4 months since I paid and 2,5 since he said he would send replacement. I start suspecting something may have happened to him, but like whatever information that we can have. 

Regards
Birger

From: Mercedes Benz 
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 4:14 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Belt service.

Hi Birger,

Just checked marrscommunications.com today and it says "Store Closed" dated 4-9-14 8:00AM. It also says "Not accepting orders" and "Processing the last of the backlog orders". 

Regards
Nadeem

Sent from my killer Windows Phone


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Birger Glosimot
Sent: 08/04/2014 13:39
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: [naktalk] Belt service.


Before Christmas I ordered and paid for some replacement belts for marrs 
communications Inc.
I received a tracking number. But checking USPS, there were no shipment 
registered.

I contacted the company and was informed that he would send a replacement 
and also include a set of belts for one of my 1000 ZXL´s at no cost. Of 
course I was satisfied.

And again I received a tracking number. Again no item to be found when 
checking USPS. This time I mailed USPS and received answer that they had not 
registered that shipment.

I have tried several mails to the company, but no answer.

I understand this is a one man company and things may happen.

Anyone else that have any information?
The parcel was to be sent to family I Texas btw.

Birger (Norway) 

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From ddlbtl at gmail.com  Thu Apr 10 18:30:05 2014
From: ddlbtl at gmail.com (David lash)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 11:30:05 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Belt service.
In-Reply-To: <SNT404-EAS51FD3D1BA192317A70D673B6550@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT404-EAS51FD3D1BA192317A70D673B6550@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C3910BB9-87A5-4A2C-B399-ABFE54ACE4E6@gmail.com>

The last time I looked at Marr's web site he had posted that he might close until he had all back orders processed and shipped, after that he would open and begin taking orders again. 

David

On Apr 10, 2014, at 9:14 AM, Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi Birger,
> 
> Just checked marrscommunications.com today and it says "Store Closed" dated 4-9-14 8:00AM. It also says "Not accepting orders" and "Processing the last of the backlog orders". 
> 
> Regards
> Nadeem
> 
> Sent from my killer Windows Phone
> From: Birger Glosimot
> Sent: 08/04/2014 13:39
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: [naktalk] Belt service.
> 
> Before Christmas I ordered and paid for some replacement belts for marrs 
> communications Inc.
> I received a tracking number. But checking USPS, there were no shipment 
> registered.
> 
> I contacted the company and was informed that he would send a replacement 
> and also include a set of belts for one of my 1000 ZXL´s at no cost. Of 
> course I was satisfied.
> 
> And again I received a tracking number. Again no item to be found when 
> checking USPS. This time I mailed USPS and received answer that they had not 
> registered that shipment.
> 
> I have tried several mails to the company, but no answer.
> 
> I understand this is a one man company and things may happen.
> 
> Anyone else that have any information?
> The parcel was to be sent to family I Texas btw.
> 
> Birger (Norway) 
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From wbendler at sbcglobal.net  Thu Apr 10 17:54:06 2014
From: wbendler at sbcglobal.net (Warren Bendler)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 08:54:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Belt service.
In-Reply-To: <1FAE92C803444AA2B7E30925BD7796F0@BirgerPC>
References: <SNT404-EAS51FD3D1BA192317A70D673B6550@phx.gbl>
	<1FAE92C803444AA2B7E30925BD7796F0@BirgerPC>
Message-ID: <1397145246.69076.YahooMailNeo@web185401.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

He posted on the Tapeheads Forum that he closed the store this week so he can concentrate on the back orders. He should have done that a long time ago before it got out of hand. Really all he has to do is set a quota every week. Once he gets a certain number of orders, put up a notice saying that the queue is filled and he is not accepting orders at this time. Fill the orders, take down the notice and start over. I would say he should take orders Monday - Wednesday, then stop taking orders and use the rest of the week to fill them. I think people would get less upset if they could not place an order than if they had paid and were waiting for months to get the belts.

Warren




________________________________
 From: Birger Glosimot <bglosi at tilkoblet.net>
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Belt service.
 


Hi Nadeem
 
That is what says there from time to time, but It is now approx 4 months 
since I paid and 2,5 since he said he would send replacement. I start suspecting 
something may have happened to him, but like whatever information that we can 
have. 
 
Regards
Birger 
From: Mercedes Benz 
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 4:14 PM
To: Talk 
about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Belt service.
  Hi 
Birger,

Just checked marrscommunications.com today and it says "Store 
Closed" dated 4-9-14 8:00AM. It also says "Not accepting orders" and "Processing 
the last of the backlog orders". 

Regards
Nadeem

Sent from my 
killer Windows Phone

________________________________
 From: Birger 
Glosimot
Sent: 08/04/2014 
13:39
To: Talk about 
Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: [naktalk] 
Belt service.


Before Christmas I ordered and paid for some replacement 
belts for marrs 
communications Inc.
I received a tracking number. But 
checking USPS, there were no shipment 
registered.

I contacted the 
company and was informed that he would send a replacement 
and also include a 
set of belts for one of my 1000 ZXL´s at no cost. Of 
course I was 
satisfied.

And again I received a tracking number. Again no item to be 
found when 
checking USPS. This time I mailed USPS and received answer that 
they had not 
registered that shipment.

I have tried several mails to 
the company, but no answer.

I understand this is a one man company and 
things may happen.

Anyone else that have any information?
The parcel 
was to be sent to family I Texas btw.

Birger (Norway) 

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From rkrause at multiplan.com.br  Thu Apr 10 18:00:29 2014
From: rkrause at multiplan.com.br (Rodrigo Krause)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:00:29 +0000
Subject: RES: [naktalk] Belt service.
In-Reply-To: <1FAE92C803444AA2B7E30925BD7796F0@BirgerPC>
References: <SNT404-EAS51FD3D1BA192317A70D673B6550@phx.gbl>
	<1FAE92C803444AA2B7E30925BD7796F0@BirgerPC>
Message-ID: <2DA1DAF07B14404E8CBE5DA5683381FB181544@STVTEX05>

What may have happened is that he sometimes goes away on vacation (?!) and jst leaves everything on stand-by…

Rodrigo

De: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] Em nome de Birger Glosimot
Enviada em: quinta-feira, 10 de abril de 2014 12:16
Para: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Assunto: Re: [naktalk] Belt service.

Hi Nadeem

That is what says there from time to time, but It is now approx 4 months since I paid and 2,5 since he said he would send replacement. I start suspecting something may have happened to him, but like whatever information that we can have.

Regards
Birger

From: Mercedes Benz<mailto:mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 4:14 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks<mailto:naktalk at naks.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Belt service.

Hi Birger,

Just checked marrscommunications.com today and it says "Store Closed" dated 4-9-14 8:00AM. It also says "Not accepting orders" and "Processing the last of the backlog orders".

Regards
Nadeem

Sent from my killer Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Birger Glosimot
Sent: 08/04/2014 13:39
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: [naktalk] Belt service.
Before Christmas I ordered and paid for some replacement belts for marrs
communications Inc.
I received a tracking number. But checking USPS, there were no shipment
registered.

I contacted the company and was informed that he would send a replacement
and also include a set of belts for one of my 1000 ZXL´s at no cost. Of
course I was satisfied.

And again I received a tracking number. Again no item to be found when
checking USPS. This time I mailed USPS and received answer that they had not
registered that shipment.

I have tried several mails to the company, but no answer.

I understand this is a one man company and things may happen.

Anyone else that have any information?
The parcel was to be sent to family I Texas btw.

Birger (Norway)

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From bglosi at tilkoblet.net  Thu Apr 10 20:23:20 2014
From: bglosi at tilkoblet.net (Birger Glosimot)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 20:23:20 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Belt service.
In-Reply-To: <1397145246.69076.YahooMailNeo@web185401.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <SNT404-EAS51FD3D1BA192317A70D673B6550@phx.gbl><1FAE92C803444AA2B7E30925BD7796F0@BirgerPC>
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Message-ID: <28D20860352B486B96E8DFDFE12F7F62@BirgerPC>

Amen to that! 
But also if he could reply to quistions that is sent several times, so customers do not start wondering if he has startet in a wrong direction.

Birger

From: Warren Bendler 
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 5:54 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Belt service.

He posted on the Tapeheads Forum that he closed the store this week so he can concentrate on the back orders. He should have done that a long time ago before it got out of hand. Really all he has to do is set a quota every week. Once he gets a certain number of orders, put up a notice saying that the queue is filled and he is not accepting orders at this time. Fill the orders, take down the notice and start over. I would say he should take orders Monday - Wednesday, then stop taking orders and use the rest of the week to fill them. I think people would get less upset if they could not place an order than if they had paid and were waiting for months to get the belts.

Warren





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From: Birger Glosimot <bglosi at tilkoblet.net>
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Belt service.


Hi Nadeem

That is what says there from time to time, but It is now approx 4 months since I paid and 2,5 since he said he would send replacement. I start suspecting something may have happened to him, but like whatever information that we can have. 

Regards
Birger

From: Mercedes Benz 
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 4:14 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Belt service.

Hi Birger,

Just checked marrscommunications.com today and it says "Store Closed" dated 4-9-14 8:00AM. It also says "Not accepting orders" and "Processing the last of the backlog orders". 

Regards
Nadeem

Sent from my killer Windows Phone


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Birger Glosimot
Sent: 08/04/2014 13:39
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: [naktalk] Belt service.


Before Christmas I ordered and paid for some replacement belts for marrs 
communications Inc.
I received a tracking number. But checking USPS, there were no shipment 
registered.

I contacted the company and was informed that he would send a replacement 
and also include a set of belts for one of my 1000 ZXL´s at no cost. Of 
course I was satisfied.

And again I received a tracking number. Again no item to be found when 
checking USPS. This time I mailed USPS and received answer that they had not 
registered that shipment.

I have tried several mails to the company, but no answer.

I understand this is a one man company and things may happen.

Anyone else that have any information?
The parcel was to be sent to family I Texas btw.

Birger (Norway) 

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From daniel.botelho at gmail.com  Thu Apr 10 20:29:35 2014
From: daniel.botelho at gmail.com (Daniel Botelho)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 14:29:35 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Belt service.
In-Reply-To: <1397145246.69076.YahooMailNeo@web185401.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <SNT404-EAS51FD3D1BA192317A70D673B6550@phx.gbl>
	<1FAE92C803444AA2B7E30925BD7796F0@BirgerPC>
	<1397145246.69076.YahooMailNeo@web185401.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEwmrs41mpWncKiFwgL86=Cr6H-SBoSTFLv+NWQ1dKFDUWk3Hw@mail.gmail.com>

I know he's a busy guy, but if you can't deliver turnaround in under 3
weeks, you should close up.

Either that or hire someone, or sell the business to someone who can manage
it.  He's only going to ruin himself if he keeps this up.  The amount of
people complaining on tapeheads is growing by a lot...



On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Warren Bendler <wbendler at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> He posted on the Tapeheads Forum that he closed the store this week so he
> can concentrate on the back orders. He should have done that a long time
> ago before it got out of hand. Really all he has to do is set a quota every
> week. Once he gets a certain number of orders, put up a notice saying that
> the queue is filled and he is not accepting orders at this time. Fill the
> orders, take down the notice and start over. I would say he should take
> orders Monday - Wednesday, then stop taking orders and use the rest of the
> week to fill them. I think people would get less upset if they could not
> place an order than if they had paid and were waiting for months to get the
> belts.
>
> Warren
>
>
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Birger Glosimot <bglosi at tilkoblet.net>
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 10, 2014 11:16 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] Belt service.
>
>   Hi Nadeem
>
> That is what says there from time to time, but It is now approx 4 months
> since I paid and 2,5 since he said he would send replacement. I start
> suspecting something may have happened to him, but like whatever
> information that we can have.
>
> Regards
> Birger
>
>  *From:* Mercedes Benz
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 10, 2014 4:14 PM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* RE: [naktalk] Belt service.
>
>  Hi Birger,
>
> Just checked marrscommunications.com today and it says "Store Closed"
> dated 4-9-14 8:00AM. It also says "Not accepting orders" and "Processing
> the last of the backlog orders".
>
> Regards
> Nadeem
>
> Sent from my killer Windows Phone
> ------------------------------
> From: Birger Glosimot
> Sent: 08/04/2014 13:39
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: [naktalk] Belt service.
>
>  Before Christmas I ordered and paid for some replacement belts for marrs
> communications Inc.
> I received a tracking number. But checking USPS, there were no shipment
> registered.
>
> I contacted the company and was informed that he would send a replacement
> and also include a set of belts for one of my 1000 ZXL´s at no cost. Of
> course I was satisfied.
>
> And again I received a tracking number. Again no item to be found when
> checking USPS. This time I mailed USPS and received answer that they had
> not
> registered that shipment.
>
> I have tried several mails to the company, but no answer.
>
> I understand this is a one man company and things may happen.
>
> Anyone else that have any information?
> The parcel was to be sent to family I Texas btw.
>
> Birger (Norway)
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From willy at willyhermannservices.com  Thu Apr 10 22:15:45 2014
From: willy at willyhermannservices.com (Willy Hermann)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 13:15:45 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Belt service.
In-Reply-To: <2DA1DAF07B14404E8CBE5DA5683381FB181544@STVTEX05>
References: <SNT404-EAS51FD3D1BA192317A70D673B6550@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <CAM9V8Md5YQaWn3NvmQTAD9VK47-OsU1UhmWYxD7DwDTqjkva+w@mail.gmail.com>

Last I talked to him, Fred had had some family issues and had taken a few
weeks to take care of it.  He didn't have a choice and has been working
very long hours since to try to catch up.  He closed the store to stop any
further orders and hopes he will be able to reopen with at least some
reputation left when he has finally caught up.  He's a great guy and I wish
him the best in this situation.
That said, I understand the frustration with everyone waiting for orders.
 Fred assured me that he will get them all out.
Willy


On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Rodrigo Krause <rkrause at multiplan.com.br>wrote:

>  What may have happened is that he sometimes goes away on vacation (?!)
> and jst leaves everything on stand-by...
>
>
>
> Rodrigo
>
>
>
> *De:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] *Em nome
> de *Birger Glosimot
> *Enviada em:* quinta-feira, 10 de abril de 2014 12:16
> *Para:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Assunto:* Re: [naktalk] Belt service.
>
>
>
> Hi Nadeem
>
>
>
> That is what says there from time to time, but It is now approx 4 months
> since I paid and 2,5 since he said he would send replacement. I start
> suspecting something may have happened to him, but like whatever
> information that we can have.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Birger
>
>
>
> *From:* Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk>
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 10, 2014 4:14 PM
>
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>
> *Subject:* RE: [naktalk] Belt service.
>
>
>
> Hi Birger,
>
> Just checked marrscommunications.com today and it says "Store Closed"
> dated 4-9-14 8:00AM. It also says "Not accepting orders" and "Processing
> the last of the backlog orders".
>
> Regards
> Nadeem
>
> Sent from my killer Windows Phone
>   ------------------------------
>
> *From: *Birger Glosimot
> *Sent: *08/04/2014 13:39
> *To: *Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject: *[naktalk] Belt service.
>
> Before Christmas I ordered and paid for some replacement belts for marrs
> communications Inc.
> I received a tracking number. But checking USPS, there were no shipment
> registered.
>
> I contacted the company and was informed that he would send a replacement
> and also include a set of belts for one of my 1000 ZXL´s at no cost. Of
> course I was satisfied.
>
> And again I received a tracking number. Again no item to be found when
> checking USPS. This time I mailed USPS and received answer that they had
> not
> registered that shipment.
>
> I have tried several mails to the company, but no answer.
>
> I understand this is a one man company and things may happen.
>
> Anyone else that have any information?
> The parcel was to be sent to family I Texas btw.
>
> Birger (Norway)
>
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From bglosi at tilkoblet.net  Thu Apr 10 22:48:34 2014
From: bglosi at tilkoblet.net (Birger Glosimot)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 22:48:34 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Belt service.
In-Reply-To: <CAM9V8Md5YQaWn3NvmQTAD9VK47-OsU1UhmWYxD7DwDTqjkva+w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SNT404-EAS51FD3D1BA192317A70D673B6550@phx.gbl><1FAE92C803444AA2B7E30925BD7796F0@BirgerPC><2DA1DAF07B14404E8CBE5DA5683381FB181544@STVTEX05>
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Message-ID: <91CF5D93E25946429692D7ABAD928485@BirgerPC>

Thank you Willy!

I think we all know he is a trustworthy person. So good to hear someone that have had some recent contact with him explain the exact situation. We must then just wait and x our fingers that he will catch up with delivery and then orders 
And should you talk with him again, I think you can say hello from all of us.

Best regards
Birger

From: Willy Hermann 
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 10:15 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Belt service.

Last I talked to him, Fred had had some family issues and had taken a few weeks to take care of it.  He didn't have a choice and has been working very long hours since to try to catch up.  He closed the store to stop any further orders and hopes he will be able to reopen with at least some reputation left when he has finally caught up.  He's a great guy and I wish him the best in this situation.
That said, I understand the frustration with everyone waiting for orders.  Fred assured me that he will get them all out.
Willy



On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Rodrigo Krause <rkrause at multiplan.com.br> wrote:

  What may have happened is that he sometimes goes away on vacation (?!) and jst leaves everything on stand-by…



  Rodrigo



  De: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] Em nome de Birger Glosimot
  Enviada em: quinta-feira, 10 de abril de 2014 12:16
  Para: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
  Assunto: Re: [naktalk] Belt service.



  Hi Nadeem



  That is what says there from time to time, but It is now approx 4 months since I paid and 2,5 since he said he would send replacement. I start suspecting something may have happened to him, but like whatever information that we can have. 



  Regards

  Birger



  From: Mercedes Benz 

  Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 4:14 PM

  To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 

  Subject: RE: [naktalk] Belt service.



  Hi Birger,

  Just checked marrscommunications.com today and it says "Store Closed" dated 4-9-14 8:00AM. It also says "Not accepting orders" and "Processing the last of the backlog orders". 

  Regards
  Nadeem

  Sent from my killer Windows Phone


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  From: Birger Glosimot
  Sent: 08/04/2014 13:39
  To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
  Subject: [naktalk] Belt service.

  Before Christmas I ordered and paid for some replacement belts for marrs 
  communications Inc.
  I received a tracking number. But checking USPS, there were no shipment 
  registered.

  I contacted the company and was informed that he would send a replacement 
  and also include a set of belts for one of my 1000 ZXL´s at no cost. Of 
  course I was satisfied.

  And again I received a tracking number. Again no item to be found when 
  checking USPS. This time I mailed USPS and received answer that they had not 
  registered that shipment.

  I have tried several mails to the company, but no answer.

  I understand this is a one man company and things may happen.

  Anyone else that have any information?
  The parcel was to be sent to family I Texas btw.

  Birger (Norway) 

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From kapro at kapro.sk  Fri Apr 11 07:45:23 2014
From: kapro at kapro.sk (Ivan Karas)
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 07:45:23 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Belt service.
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I don't consider long delivery times the biggest issue. I counted with 
that. It has been three and half month since I've paid for the belts 
($174,35). I consider being a huge issue Fred's information with 
assurance the belts has been already dispatched with provided tracking 
number. After USPS web page informed me "Electronic shipping info 
received" I contacted USPS and got an information no parcel was picked 
up or received under this tracking number. Than - Fred's reassurance 
everything will be taken care of (3-18).  Since than Fred hasn't been 
responding to my messages and no belts haven't been received. :-(
Ivan


On 10.4.2014 22:15, Willy Hermann wrote:
> Last I talked to him, Fred had had some family issues and had taken a 
> few weeks to take care of it.  He didn't have a choice and has been 
> working very long hours since to try to catch up.  He closed the store 
> to stop any further orders and hopes he will be able to reopen with at 
> least some reputation left when he has finally caught up.  He's a 
> great guy and I wish him the best in this situation.
> That said, I understand the frustration with everyone waiting for 
> orders.  Fred assured me that he will get them all out.
> Willy
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Rodrigo Krause 
> <rkrause at multiplan.com.br <mailto:rkrause at multiplan.com.br>> wrote:
>
>     What may have happened is that he sometimes goes away on vacation
>     (?!) and jst leaves everything on stand-by...
>
>     Rodrigo
>
>     *De:*naktalk-bounces at naks.com <mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com>
>     [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com
>     <mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com>] *Em nome de *Birger Glosimot
>     *Enviada em:* quinta-feira, 10 de abril de 2014 12:16
>     *Para:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>     *Assunto:* Re: [naktalk] Belt service.
>
>     Hi Nadeem
>
>     That is what says there from time to time, but It is now approx 4
>     months since I paid and 2,5 since he said he would send
>     replacement. I start suspecting something may have happened to
>     him, but like whatever information that we can have.
>
>     Regards
>
>     Birger
>
>     *From:*Mercedes Benz <mailto:mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk>
>
>     *Sent:*Thursday, April 10, 2014 4:14 PM
>
>     *To:*Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <mailto:naktalk at naks.com>
>
>     *Subject:*RE: [naktalk] Belt service.
>
>     Hi Birger,
>
>     Just checked marrscommunications.com
>     <http://marrscommunications.com> today and it says "Store Closed"
>     dated 4-9-14 8:00AM. It also says "Not accepting orders" and
>     "Processing the last of the backlog orders".
>
>     Regards
>     Nadeem
>
>     Sent from my killer Windows Phone
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>     *From: *Birger Glosimot
>     *Sent: *08/04/2014 13:39
>     *To: *Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>     *Subject: *[naktalk] Belt service.
>
>     Before Christmas I ordered and paid for some replacement belts for
>     marrs
>     communications Inc.
>     I received a tracking number. But checking USPS, there were no
>     shipment
>     registered.
>
>     I contacted the company and was informed that he would send a
>     replacement
>     and also include a set of belts for one of my 1000 ZXL´s at no
>     cost. Of
>     course I was satisfied.
>
>     And again I received a tracking number. Again no item to be found
>     when
>     checking USPS. This time I mailed USPS and received answer that
>     they had not
>     registered that shipment.
>
>     I have tried several mails to the company, but no answer.
>
>     I understand this is a one man company and things may happen.
>
>     Anyone else that have any information?
>     The parcel was to be sent to family I Texas btw.
>
>     Birger (Norway)
>
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From mrlemke at charter.net  Sat Apr 12 13:39:24 2014
From: mrlemke at charter.net (Michael R. Lemke)
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 06:39:24 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Belt Service
In-Reply-To: <201404121009.s3CA7g3M013279@zxe.naks.com>
References: <201404121009.s3CA7g3M013279@zxe.naks.com>
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I get the fact that there may be some personal stuff going on.  Is that
communicated on the Marrs website?  NO!  Don't expect details on the issue
but the CLOSED store front communication helps no one and frankly is more
irritating and mysterious than helpful.  It's not acceptable that there is
NO communication, plenty of examples of false promises of delivery.  Frankly
from what I can tell they are flat out lies about shipping to get people of
his back about lack of delivery.  Money has exchanged hands and goods are
not delivered.  They call that theft.  Since Marrs is CLOSED can anyone
recommend another source for Nak belts?



From angel9esoteric at gmail.com  Sat Apr 12 15:59:25 2014
From: angel9esoteric at gmail.com (MD)
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 09:59:25 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Belt Service
In-Reply-To: <160501cf5643$da948dc0$8fbda940$@net>
References: <201404121009.s3CA7g3M013279@zxe.naks.com>
	<160501cf5643$da948dc0$8fbda940$@net>
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He always had terrible service, no wonder he was kicked off ebay after
years of deceit.He lives on Mars,haha

On 4/12/14, Michael R. Lemke <mrlemke at charter.net> wrote:
> I get the fact that there may be some personal stuff going on.  Is that
> communicated on the Marrs website?  NO!  Don't expect details on the issue
> but the CLOSED store front communication helps no one and frankly is more
> irritating and mysterious than helpful.  It's not acceptable that there is
> NO communication, plenty of examples of false promises of delivery.
> Frankly
> from what I can tell they are flat out lies about shipping to get people of
> his back about lack of delivery.  Money has exchanged hands and goods are
> not delivered.  They call that theft.  Since Marrs is CLOSED can anyone
> recommend another source for Nak belts?
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From ddlbtl at gmail.com  Sat Apr 12 16:11:17 2014
From: ddlbtl at gmail.com (David lash)
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 09:11:17 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Belt Service
In-Reply-To: <160501cf5643$da948dc0$8fbda940$@net>
References: <201404121009.s3CA7g3M013279@zxe.naks.com>
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In Fred's defense he had posted on his web site that he was planning on closing until he had processed and shipped all back orders, at the completion of that task he would reopen and begin accepting orders. 

David

On Apr 12, 2014, at 6:39 AM, "Michael R. Lemke" <mrlemke at charter.net> wrote:

> I get the fact that there may be some personal stuff going on.  Is that
> communicated on the Marrs website?  NO!  Don't expect details on the issue
> but the CLOSED store front communication helps no one and frankly is more
> irritating and mysterious than helpful.  It's not acceptable that there is
> NO communication, plenty of examples of false promises of delivery.  Frankly
> from what I can tell they are flat out lies about shipping to get people of
> his back about lack of delivery.  Money has exchanged hands and goods are
> not delivered.  They call that theft.  Since Marrs is CLOSED can anyone
> recommend another source for Nak belts?
> 
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From scott.h.garner at lmco.com  Sat Apr 12 16:54:43 2014
From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com (Garner, Scott H)
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 14:54:43 +0000
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [naktalk] Re: Belt Service
In-Reply-To: <CAEo=m-UBLCmGr=7pO+7zoL+RCG-Ku44afrZnKaDcRf2YzdOD=w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201404121009.s3CA7g3M013279@zxe.naks.com>
	<160501cf5643$da948dc0$8fbda940$@net>
	<CAEo=m-UBLCmGr=7pO+7zoL+RCG-Ku44afrZnKaDcRf2YzdOD=w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A8BA33D5C3959E45BDC166ED2FED44680BE08B04@HVXDSP21.us.lmco.com>

How about we stop bashing the guy, maybe he does have some personal issues. Maybe we will piss him off to the point where he stops making belts, where will you get your belts then, huh?

-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of MD
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 9:59 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [naktalk] Re: Belt Service

He always had terrible service, no wonder he was kicked off ebay after years of deceit.He lives on Mars,haha

On 4/12/14, Michael R. Lemke <mrlemke at charter.net> wrote:
> I get the fact that there may be some personal stuff going on.  Is 
> that communicated on the Marrs website?  NO!  Don't expect details on 
> the issue but the CLOSED store front communication helps no one and 
> frankly is more irritating and mysterious than helpful.  It's not 
> acceptable that there is NO communication, plenty of examples of false promises of delivery.
> Frankly
> from what I can tell they are flat out lies about shipping to get 
> people of his back about lack of delivery.  Money has exchanged hands 
> and goods are not delivered.  They call that theft.  Since Marrs is 
> CLOSED can anyone recommend another source for Nak belts?
>
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From dball1 at woh.rr.com  Sat Apr 12 18:48:31 2014
From: dball1 at woh.rr.com (Dennis Ball)
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 12:48:31 -0400
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [naktalk] Re: Belt Service
In-Reply-To: <A8BA33D5C3959E45BDC166ED2FED44680BE08B04@HVXDSP21.us.lmco.com>
References: <201404121009.s3CA7g3M013279@zxe.naks.com>
	<160501cf5643$da948dc0$8fbda940$@net>
	<CAEo=m-UBLCmGr=7pO+7zoL+RCG-Ku44afrZnKaDcRf2YzdOD=w@mail.gmail.com>
	<A8BA33D5C3959E45BDC166ED2FED44680BE08B04@HVXDSP21.us.lmco.com>
Message-ID: <CAMAHYTS7UcET+Sd8dv8Q6r_76_XRQst8xauF+me5jt8DwCJDGw@mail.gmail.com>

I've never purchased a thing from Fred, but I've always admired the way he
would keep us informed here on the list.  New belts, new sales items,
special deals for NakTalk members, etc.  It always seemed to me that he
when far above & beyond so that we could obtain the belts we need to
maintain our beloved cassette desks.

Here's to you Fred.  I hope whatever trouble that has befallen you is soon
cleared up and life quickly turns around for you. In the famous words from
poet John Lydgate, later adapted by President Lincoln, "You can please some
of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the
time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time".


On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Garner, Scott H
<scott.h.garner at lmco.com>wrote:

> How about we stop bashing the guy, maybe he does have some personal
> issues. Maybe we will piss him off to the point where he stops making
> belts, where will you get your belts then, huh?
>
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From rkrause at multiplan.com.br  Sat Apr 12 19:37:55 2014
From: rkrause at multiplan.com.br (Rodrigo Krause)
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 17:37:55 +0000
Subject: Res: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [naktalk] Re: Belt Service
In-Reply-To: <CAMAHYTS7UcET+Sd8dv8Q6r_76_XRQst8xauF+me5jt8DwCJDGw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2DA1DAF07B14404E8CBE5DA5683381FB182272@STVTEX05>

I couldn't agree more with Dennis and Scott: let the man have his say! I had a few delivery problems in the past which were rather rapidly taken care of. If Willy says Fred's got some personal issues to care of, well, let's give the man a chance...
All the best to all of us, and to those that have already spent some good money in belts and haven't gotten them delivered (yet).
A great week end to all.

Rodrigo
Rodrigo Krause dos S. R.
Relações com Investidores
Multiplan S.A.
+55 21 3031-5600

________________________________
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Para: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Enviada em: Sat Apr 12 13:48:31 2014
Assunto: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [naktalk] Re: Belt Service

I've never purchased a thing from Fred, but I've always admired the way he would keep us informed here on the list.  New belts, new sales items, special deals for NakTalk members, etc.  It always seemed to me that he when far above & beyond so that we could obtain the belts we need to maintain our beloved cassette desks.

Here's to you Fred.  I hope whatever trouble that has befallen you is soon cleared up and life quickly turns around for you. In the famous words from poet John Lydgate, later adapted by President Lincoln, "You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time".


On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Garner, Scott H <scott.h.garner at lmco.com<mailto:scott.h.garner at lmco.com>> wrote:
How about we stop bashing the guy, maybe he does have some personal issues. Maybe we will piss him off to the point where he stops making belts, where will you get your belts then, huh?

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From vidguy_me at hotmail.com  Sun Apr 13 01:43:20 2014
From: vidguy_me at hotmail.com (vidguy vidguy)
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 23:43:20 +0000
Subject: Res: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [naktalk] Re: Belt Service
In-Reply-To: <2DA1DAF07B14404E8CBE5DA5683381FB182272@STVTEX05>
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Fred has had "personal" issues for the last 6 months.
He said he had a death in the family, way back in the fall.
(Now, there's another death?!?)

For almost half a year at least, there have been regular excuses, time and time, and time again.

Maybe, those of you who are technicians, who order a large number of belts, over the course of the year, maybe you guys get better service.

However, if you are just a guy who needs a couple of belts.
You will wait, and wait, and wait.............

As I said, after more than a month of no communication.
It took only 1 DAY, after filing a paypal claim, for Fred to respond.

1DAY!!!! That's all it took, and he shipped the belts. (Amazing, what took 6+ weeks, now only took 1 day)
(It took the threat of paypal, to get him to respond)
Only, they WERE ALL INCORRECT. They were not the right belts.


Oh, and if you DARE to complain to paypal about your order, he will refund it, and NEVER do business with you, again.
So... you wait, and wait, and wait, because you are "afraid" you will offend Fred, and he won't sell you belts.

However, at some point.. it's fish or cut bait.


I find that.... bad service, period.

It 's a shame, as he had the proper D4 belt.

He can have all the correct belts in the world, but if you can't have them, then what's the point.

From: rkrause at multiplan.com.br
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: Res: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [naktalk] Re: Belt Service
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 17:37:55 +0000






I couldn't agree more with Dennis and Scott: let the man have his say! I had a few delivery problems in the past which were rather rapidly taken care of. If Willy says Fred's got some personal issues to care of,
 well, let's give the man a chance...

All the best to all of us, and to those that have already spent some good money in belts and haven't gotten them delivered (yet).

A great week end to all.



Rodrigo 

Rodrigo Krause dos S. R. 

Relações com Investidores 

Multiplan S.A. 

+55 21 3031-5600




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Para: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 

Enviada em: Sat Apr 12 13:48:31 2014

Assunto: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [naktalk] Re: Belt Service 




I've never purchased a thing from Fred, but I've always admired the way he would keep us informed here on the list.  New belts, new sales items, special deals for
NakTalk members, etc.  It always seemed to me that he when far above & beyond so that we could obtain the belts we need to maintain our beloved cassette desks.



Here's to you Fred.  I hope whatever trouble that has befallen you is soon cleared up and life quickly turns around for you. In the famous words from poet John
Lydgate, later adapted by President Lincoln, "You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time".





On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Garner, Scott H 
<scott.h.garner at lmco.com> wrote:


How about we stop bashing the guy, maybe he does have some personal issues. Maybe we will piss him off to the point where he stops making belts, where will you get your belts then, huh?









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From shoeihell at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 13 03:24:24 2014
From: shoeihell at yahoo.com (Kevin Fetner)
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 18:24:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Belt service
Message-ID: <1397352264.69351.YahooMailNeo@web124501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Reminiscent of the Stephen Sank debacles of lore. When a guy is down, short of torches, pitchforks, tar & feathers.....I'm not sure what else you can do. And with most of you, this thing is taking on a life of its own and amping up considerably. If you really want the belts, then see if Fred can work through this. If however, you want your pint of blood.....

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From dieseldude1 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 13 08:28:04 2014
From: dieseldude1 at gmail.com (Samuel Crider)
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 01:28:04 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Belt Service
In-Reply-To: <B53AA8F4-2D31-4FEA-9BA1-E7DB34EBAE6B@gmail.com>
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Hey Fellas

Hang in there. It appears that  demand has out paced the available
resources. It's a wonderful thing that these machines are being restored.
Kudo's to all who assist to make that a reality..

Samuel
On Apr 12, 2014 10:01 AM, "David lash" <ddlbtl at gmail.com> wrote:

> In Fred's defense he had posted on his web site that he was planning on
> closing until he had processed and shipped all back orders, at the
> completion of that task he would reopen and begin accepting orders.
>
> David
>
> On Apr 12, 2014, at 6:39 AM, "Michael R. Lemke" <mrlemke at charter.net>
> wrote:
>
> > I get the fact that there may be some personal stuff going on.  Is that
> > communicated on the Marrs website?  NO!  Don't expect details on the
> issue
> > but the CLOSED store front communication helps no one and frankly is more
> > irritating and mysterious than helpful.  It's not acceptable that there
> is
> > NO communication, plenty of examples of false promises of delivery.
>  Frankly
> > from what I can tell they are flat out lies about shipping to get people
> of
> > his back about lack of delivery.  Money has exchanged hands and goods are
> > not delivered.  They call that theft.  Since Marrs is CLOSED can anyone
> > recommend another source for Nak belts?
> >
> >
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From perry.nak at comcast.net  Sun Apr 13 14:06:23 2014
From: perry.nak at comcast.net (Perry Esposito)
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 08:06:23 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Belts
Message-ID: <68E96A41-46EE-47AB-9804-303A5A0832C7@comcast.net>

Fred always makes good on either his delivery, refund, or an extra belt if that works. If you 
bothered to read his web site, he tells you he's buried in orders. 
He'd be the first to admit 2 or 3 months is way to long, and he's made mistakes, but he has always eventually come through. 
He is having supply problems as well as personal problems, so boohoo if you have to take a back seat. 
The smart thing would be to return the money of the past overdue orders and cross you off the customer list and move on.
  All you anonymous  bashers only stir up the fire and contribute nothing. Hope that makes you feel like big men. 
Plenty here remember how easy it was to get the right sized Nak belts with good performance before Fred stepped up and took on this challenge, right ? 
Oh yeah,
that's right, there WERE NONE besides ESL, and now for 4096, not even ESL.  
So if Fred decides, "screw this, I'm retired, I don't need this crap", I hope you all enjoy your Nakamichi door stops. 

Sent from Perry Esposito via iPhone


From rossnkiely at gmail.com  Sun Apr 13 17:25:28 2014
From: rossnkiely at gmail.com (Ross Kiely)
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 11:25:28 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Belts
In-Reply-To: <68E96A41-46EE-47AB-9804-303A5A0832C7@comcast.net>
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Message-ID: <CACONicU_bHoDCk76qaWh5wYoe_CgnDAWS88DAgK-ftjOLkxHTA@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Perry, as a frequent Mars purchaser, I agree with your statements!! I
have dealt with Fred for a long time & yes there have been times when
service has come to a standstill per say But, he has ALWAYS come through
with either the product Plus extra, or a complete refund!  So, for all of
you complainers, please give the man some slack. Fred Mars has always been
& I will say, Still is an Honest dealer!!


On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Perry Esposito <perry.nak at comcast.net>wrote:

> Fred always makes good on either his delivery, refund, or an extra belt if
> that works. If you
> bothered to read his web site, he tells you he's buried in orders.
> He'd be the first to admit 2 or 3 months is way to long, and he's made
> mistakes, but he has always eventually come through.
> He is having supply problems as well as personal problems, so boohoo if
> you have to take a back seat.
> The smart thing would be to return the money of the past overdue orders
> and cross you off the customer list and move on.
>   All you anonymous  bashers only stir up the fire and contribute nothing.
> Hope that makes you feel like big men.
> Plenty here remember how easy it was to get the right sized Nak belts with
> good performance before Fred stepped up and took on this challenge, right ?
> Oh yeah,
> that's right, there WERE NONE besides ESL, and now for 4096, not even ESL.
> So if Fred decides, "screw this, I'm retired, I don't need this crap", I
> hope you all enjoy your Nakamichi door stops.
>
> Sent from Perry Esposito via iPhone
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From bernard.boitrel at gmail.com  Sun Apr 13 20:40:45 2014
From: bernard.boitrel at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 20:40:45 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Belts
In-Reply-To: <CACONicU_bHoDCk76qaWh5wYoe_CgnDAWS88DAgK-ftjOLkxHTA@mail.gmail.com>
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I do agree !
Fred has always added some extra in casse of delay.
He is a honest dealer.
As Perry said, just imagine Fred stops his business : THINK ABOUT IT ! 
and be patient

bernard


Ross Kiely a écrit :
> Hey Perry, as a frequent Mars purchaser, I agree with your 
> statements!! I have dealt with Fred for a long time & yes there have 
> been times when service has come to a standstill per say But, he has 
> ALWAYS come through with either the product Plus extra, or a complete 
> refund!  So, for all of you complainers, please give the man some 
> slack. Fred Mars has always been & I will say, Still is an Honest 
> dealer!!
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Perry Esposito <perry.nak at comcast.net 
> <mailto:perry.nak at comcast.net>> wrote:
>
>     Fred always makes good on either his delivery, refund, or an extra
>     belt if that works. If you
>     bothered to read his web site, he tells you he's buried in orders.
>     He'd be the first to admit 2 or 3 months is way to long, and he's
>     made mistakes, but he has always eventually come through.
>     He is having supply problems as well as personal problems, so
>     boohoo if you have to take a back seat.
>     The smart thing would be to return the money of the past overdue
>     orders and cross you off the customer list and move on.
>       All you anonymous  bashers only stir up the fire and contribute
>     nothing. Hope that makes you feel like big men.
>     Plenty here remember how easy it was to get the right sized Nak
>     belts with good performance before Fred stepped up and took on
>     this challenge, right ?
>     Oh yeah,
>     that's right, there WERE NONE besides ESL, and now for 4096, not
>     even ESL.
>     So if Fred decides, "screw this, I'm retired, I don't need this
>     crap", I hope you all enjoy your Nakamichi door stops.
>
>     Sent from Perry Esposito via iPhone
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From avss01 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 13 22:48:04 2014
From: avss01 at gmail.com (avss01)
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 13:48:04 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Belts
In-Reply-To: <68E96A41-46EE-47AB-9804-303A5A0832C7@comcast.net>
References: <68E96A41-46EE-47AB-9804-303A5A0832C7@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAES7Nr0sFphSBsqgQOs0jGqmvKExinRb5veijZXgWq9BdFv-TA@mail.gmail.com>

Well said Perry!

Without Fred's service, our Naks have a very finite future.  Remember also
he supplies the rubber necessary for a vast array of equipment..not just
Naks...

He is not a corporation, he is a one man band who himself is really only
doing this for a sideline with a much bigger overhead than he can handle at
times.  I know the concept of pay up front and wait for the goods is
frustrating, but guys....the days of walking into a shop a buying the
precision belt for your vintage XYZ are long gone.

Fred is for a lot of gear, the last salvation.

David




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From patty at jbrudy.com  Mon Apr 14 16:34:25 2014
From: patty at jbrudy.com (Patty)
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 07:34:25 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Belts
In-Reply-To: <68E96A41-46EE-47AB-9804-303A5A0832C7@comcast.net>
References: <68E96A41-46EE-47AB-9804-303A5A0832C7@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <D6AE6A1E1098485EAD31CDEFFC9D71FC@UserPC>

PERRY,,
GOOD FOR YOU.  

BEING A PAST EMPLOYEE, I HAVE REC'D MANY PHONES CALL ON MY PERSONAL LINE
ASKING WHERE TO GET PARTS FOR THE OLDER MODELS.  THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE
WHO PERFER THE OLDER UNITS AND PARTS ARE REALLY HARD TO FIND.  IF YOU LOVE
THE SOUND AND DO NOT WISH TO BUY NEWER BUT CHEAPLY MADE MODELS THEN YOU WILL
WAIT HOWEVER LONG I TAKES TO GET THE PARTS TO REPAIR THE UNITS.  

JUST SAYING!!!!!!!!



-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Perry Esposito
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 5:06 AM
To: Naktalk at naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Belts

Fred always makes good on either his delivery, refund, or an extra belt if
that works. If you 
bothered to read his web site, he tells you he's buried in orders. 
He'd be the first to admit 2 or 3 months is way to long, and he's made
mistakes, but he has always eventually come through. 
He is having supply problems as well as personal problems, so boohoo if you
have to take a back seat. 
The smart thing would be to return the money of the past overdue orders and
cross you off the customer list and move on.
  All you anonymous  bashers only stir up the fire and contribute nothing.
Hope that makes you feel like big men. 
Plenty here remember how easy it was to get the right sized Nak belts with
good performance before Fred stepped up and took on this challenge, right ? 
Oh yeah,
that's right, there WERE NONE besides ESL, and now for 4096, not even ESL.  
So if Fred decides, "screw this, I'm retired, I don't need this crap", I
hope you all enjoy your Nakamichi door stops. 

Sent from Perry Esposito via iPhone
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From thomas36245-net at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 14 18:07:30 2014
From: thomas36245-net at yahoo.com (thomas)
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 09:07:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Belts
In-Reply-To: <CAES7Nr0sFphSBsqgQOs0jGqmvKExinRb5veijZXgWq9BdFv-TA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <68E96A41-46EE-47AB-9804-303A5A0832C7@comcast.net>
	<CAES7Nr0sFphSBsqgQOs0jGqmvKExinRb5veijZXgWq9BdFv-TA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1397491650.20487.YahooMailNeo@web184903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

OK ; Here is my 2 cents worth.... I'd be willing to bet real money that if we could talk to Fred on the phone, one on one, and ask if he wants to be the only source for belts on the earth, he would scream into the phone ...NOOOOOO !  So... instead of using our time and effort creating and responding to a firestorm.  How about something like a " Plan B " . Maybe an archive of Nakamichi decks and their respective belt sizes and dimensions and some way of listing part #'s and sources that we have tried and had good results with.  Good Ol'  trial and error is what has gotten humanity this far in the first place . And.....taking a little pressure off Fred might just keep him going a little longer .   thomas.

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From rhils at hotmail.com  Mon Apr 14 22:51:53 2014
From: rhils at hotmail.com (Rick Hils)
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 13:51:53 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Belts
In-Reply-To: <534ADA2D.4030901@gmail.com>
References: <68E96A41-46EE-47AB-9804-303A5A0832C7@comcast.net>,
	<CACONicU_bHoDCk76qaWh5wYoe_CgnDAWS88DAgK-ftjOLkxHTA@mail.gmail.com>,
	<534ADA2D.4030901@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU177-W3891AA727870CFF40C6A48A3510@phx.gbl>

Yes,
Let's all be Happy that Fred Marrs is there at all.
Otherwise we would all just do our own sourcing to find the correct belt specs.

Thank you Fred. You are a Godsend.

-R




search the foriyou cab al att

> Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 20:40:45 +0200
> From: bernard.boitrel at gmail.com
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Belts
> 
> I do agree !
> Fred has always added some extra in casse of delay.
> He is a honest dealer.
> As Perry said, just imagine Fred stops his business : THINK ABOUT IT ! 
> and be patient
> 
> bernard
> 
> 
> Ross Kiely a écrit :
> > Hey Perry, as a frequent Mars purchaser, I agree with your 
> > statements!! I have dealt with Fred for a long time & yes there have 
> > been times when service has come to a standstill per say But, he has 
> > ALWAYS come through with either the product Plus extra, or a complete 
> > refund!  So, for all of you complainers, please give the man some 
> > slack. Fred Mars has always been & I will say, Still is an Honest 
> > dealer!!
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Perry Esposito <perry.nak at comcast.net 
> > <mailto:perry.nak at comcast.net>> wrote:
> >
> >     Fred always makes good on either his delivery, refund, or an extra
> >     belt if that works. If you
> >     bothered to read his web site, he tells you he's buried in orders.
> >     He'd be the first to admit 2 or 3 months is way to long, and he's
> >     made mistakes, but he has always eventually come through.
> >     He is having supply problems as well as personal problems, so
> >     boohoo if you have to take a back seat.
> >     The smart thing would be to return the money of the past overdue
> >     orders and cross you off the customer list and move on.
> >       All you anonymous  bashers only stir up the fire and contribute
> >     nothing. Hope that makes you feel like big men.
> >     Plenty here remember how easy it was to get the right sized Nak
> >     belts with good performance before Fred stepped up and took on
> >     this challenge, right ?
> >     Oh yeah,
> >     that's right, there WERE NONE besides ESL, and now for 4096, not
> >     even ESL.
> >     So if Fred decides, "screw this, I'm retired, I don't need this
> >     crap", I hope you all enjoy your Nakamichi door stops.
> >
> >     Sent from Perry Esposito via iPhone
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> >     ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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> >
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> >
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From rocco.bertels at telenet.be  Tue Apr 15 11:51:42 2014
From: rocco.bertels at telenet.be (Rocco Bertels)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 11:51:42 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
In-Reply-To: <201404091057.s39AdPEx001754@zxe.naks.com>
References: <201404091057.s39AdPEx001754@zxe.naks.com>
Message-ID: <3505079.67528812.1397555502226.JavaMail.root@telenet.be>

Hi guys,


Thanks for the recommendations and my apologies for the late reply. Last Friday was my last day in LA, so time was really too short to get anything done.
Back in Belgium now, but we'll get Willy to check the Dragon by the time I'll be in LA again.

Cheers,

Rocco

 

Message: 1
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 01:42:49 -0700
From: Alex Karpov <alex2000ca at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID: <FB321978-D465-4C50-A218-E1F70DAA61C9 at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi !

I'm in Tarzana and I can try to help you.


Alex

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 7, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Rocco Bertels <rocco.bertels at telenet.be> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> I'm helping out digitizing the cassette archives of Art Pepper (a great jazz artist), but unfortunately, the Nakamichi Dragon I was using has stopped working.
> Does anyone know of a repair guy in LA who could help me out with this?
> It's kind of urgent as I'll only be in LA for the rest of the week...
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Rocco 
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========


------------------------------






Message: 5
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 08:34:09 -0700
From: Willy Hermann <willy at willyhermannservices.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID:
	<CAM9V8Mda1N2Lbo5Pswd1stpvFLRdCdOyhtHxMkLnd+56G+tNfw at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Best of my knowledge there is nobody in the LA area.  I'm the closest and
do lots of work for people in the LA area.  I'm one day freight away.
Willy


------------------------------

Message: 6
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 10:14:02 -0800
From: Larry Casey <icsteelhead at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID:
	<CAJ4erXk=r=d+Ux3ERYo2ctS2PfXpm2Z4r9Ega2tzueQAj5OOXg at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Rocco,

Willy Herman is the man.  Highly recommend you contact him.

Good Luck,

Cheers, Steelhead




Message: 7
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:26:59 -0500
From: thomas laurence <tnlaurence at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID:
	<CAC+9SMzz_cbb-r=XVPCGL_bUGJvReEm8ttpR+Arc1sp_wk98+A at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Rocco,

Willy Hermann is the absolute Nakamichi master.
Let him take care of that Dragon!

Tom Laurence
Owner of three Willy Hermann serviced Naks


On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Larry Casey <icsteelhead at gmail.com> wrote:

> Rocco,
>
> Willy Herman is the man.  Highly recommend you contact him.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Cheers, Steelhead
>









From p9019 at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 15 21:20:11 2014
From: p9019 at yahoo.com (Scott Johnson)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 12:20:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
In-Reply-To: <3505079.67528812.1397555502226.JavaMail.root@telenet.be>
References: <201404091057.s39AdPEx001754@zxe.naks.com>
	<3505079.67528812.1397555502226.JavaMail.root@telenet.be>
Message-ID: <1397589611.14979.YahooMailNeo@web140503.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

I saw your message too late.  I'm in Los Angeles and could have taken a look at it.


________________________________
 From: Rocco Bertels <rocco.bertels at telenet.be>
To: naktalk at naks.com 
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 2:51 AM
Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
 

Hi guys,


Thanks for the recommendations and my apologies for the late reply. Last Friday was my last day in LA, so time was really too short to get anything done.
Back in Belgium now, but we'll get Willy to check the Dragon by the time I'll be in LA again.

Cheers,

Rocco



Message: 1
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 01:42:49 -0700
From: Alex Karpov <alex2000ca at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID: <FB321978-D465-4C50-A218-E1F70DAA61C9 at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi !

I'm in Tarzana and I can try to help you.


Alex

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 7, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Rocco Bertels <rocco.bertels at telenet.be> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> I'm helping out digitizing the cassette archives of Art Pepper (a great jazz artist), but unfortunately, the Nakamichi Dragon I was using has stopped working.
> Does anyone know of a repair guy in LA who could help me out with this?
> It's kind of urgent as I'll only be in LA for the rest of the week...
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Rocco 
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========


------------------------------






Message: 5
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 08:34:09 -0700
From: Willy Hermann <willy at willyhermannservices.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID:
    <CAM9V8Mda1N2Lbo5Pswd1stpvFLRdCdOyhtHxMkLnd+56G+tNfw at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Best of my knowledge there is nobody in the LA area.  I'm the closest and
do lots of work for people in the LA area.  I'm one day freight away.
Willy


------------------------------

Message: 6
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 10:14:02 -0800
From: Larry Casey <icsteelhead at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID:
    <CAJ4erXk=r=d+Ux3ERYo2ctS2PfXpm2Z4r9Ega2tzueQAj5OOXg at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Rocco,

Willy Herman is the man.  Highly recommend you contact him.

Good Luck,

Cheers, Steelhead




Message: 7
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:26:59 -0500
From: thomas laurence <tnlaurence at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID:
    <CAC+9SMzz_cbb-r=XVPCGL_bUGJvReEm8ttpR+Arc1sp_wk98+A at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Rocco,

Willy Hermann is the absolute Nakamichi master.
Let him take care of that Dragon!

Tom Laurence
Owner of three Willy Hermann serviced Naks


On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Larry Casey <icsteelhead at gmail.com> wrote:

> Rocco,
>
> Willy Herman is the man.  Highly recommend you contact him.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Cheers, Steelhead
>







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From alex2000ca at aol.com  Tue Apr 15 21:55:15 2014
From: alex2000ca at aol.com (Alex Karpov)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 12:55:15 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
In-Reply-To: <3505079.67528812.1397555502226.JavaMail.root@telenet.be>
References: <201404091057.s39AdPEx001754@zxe.naks.com>
	<3505079.67528812.1397555502226.JavaMail.root@telenet.be>
Message-ID: <7C4E9E02-A68E-4BE7-ACF8-7CEF43CEDEF1@aol.com>

I know repair guy in LA. He fixed all my 14 cassette and R2R decks plus my other Nakamichi stuff: PA-7, CA-7, ST-7, OMS-7. For FREE. I paid for parts only. He is doing it for fun, not for living. That's why he is not so widely advertised like Willy.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 15, 2014, at 2:51 AM, Rocco Bertels <rocco.bertels at telenet.be> wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> 
> Thanks for the recommendations and my apologies for the late reply. Last Friday was my last day in LA, so time was really too short to get anything done.
> Back in Belgium now, but we'll get Willy to check the Dragon by the time I'll be in LA again.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Rocco
> 
> 
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 01:42:49 -0700
> From: Alex Karpov <alex2000ca at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
> Message-ID: <FB321978-D465-4C50-A218-E1F70DAA61C9 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Hi !
> 
> I'm in Tarzana and I can try to help you.
> 
> 
> Alex
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 7, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Rocco Bertels <rocco.bertels at telenet.be> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> 
>> I'm helping out digitizing the cassette archives of Art Pepper (a great jazz artist), but unfortunately, the Nakamichi Dragon I was using has stopped working.
>> Does anyone know of a repair guy in LA who could help me out with this?
>> It's kind of urgent as I'll only be in LA for the rest of the week...
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Rocco 
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 08:34:09 -0700
> From: Willy Hermann <willy at willyhermannservices.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
> Message-ID:
>    <CAM9V8Mda1N2Lbo5Pswd1stpvFLRdCdOyhtHxMkLnd+56G+tNfw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Best of my knowledge there is nobody in the LA area.  I'm the closest and
> do lots of work for people in the LA area.  I'm one day freight away.
> Willy
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 10:14:02 -0800
> From: Larry Casey <icsteelhead at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
> Message-ID:
>    <CAJ4erXk=r=d+Ux3ERYo2ctS2PfXpm2Z4r9Ega2tzueQAj5OOXg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Rocco,
> 
> Willy Herman is the man.  Highly recommend you contact him.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Cheers, Steelhead
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:26:59 -0500
> From: thomas laurence <tnlaurence at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
> Message-ID:
>    <CAC+9SMzz_cbb-r=XVPCGL_bUGJvReEm8ttpR+Arc1sp_wk98+A at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Rocco,
> 
> Willy Hermann is the absolute Nakamichi master.
> Let him take care of that Dragon!
> 
> Tom Laurence
> Owner of three Willy Hermann serviced Naks
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Larry Casey <icsteelhead at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Rocco,
>> 
>> Willy Herman is the man.  Highly recommend you contact him.
>> 
>> Good Luck,
>> 
>> Cheers, Steelhead
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From avss01 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 16 08:25:30 2014
From: avss01 at gmail.com (avss01)
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 16:25:30 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] An interesting article to share
Message-ID: <CAES7Nr1c78K1TDn3v06R5mEACw6gEx=t8aggSDd8snhynVZe_g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all

I lifted this short extract out of the manual for the Lindos MS10 manual
regarding the testing methodology of cassette tape decks.
It is quite interesting although not necessarily directly relevant to
Nakamichis with their tape lifter etc.  Just thought I would share.

Regards

David
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From joyell.solie at sasktel.net  Wed Apr 16 15:05:11 2014
From: joyell.solie at sasktel.net (=?utf-8?b?Sm95LUVsbCAmIFJhaW5lcg==?=)
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 07:05:11 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] An interesting article to share
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Really cool ! Thanks David :)

Cheers,
Rainer

On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 16:25:30 +1000, avss01  wrote:

       Hi all

I lifted this short extract out of the manual for the Lindos MS10 
manual regarding the testing methodology of cassette tape decks. 
It is quite interesting although not necessarily directly relevant to 
Nakamichis with their tape lifter etc.  Just thought I would share. 

Regards

David

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From icsteelhead at gmail.com  Wed Apr 16 19:46:45 2014
From: icsteelhead at gmail.com (Larry Casey)
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 09:46:45 -0800
Subject: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
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That is fine Alex. He may even be a great guy.

But Willy is a dedicated professional Nak repairman and has the specialized
tools and KNOWLEDGE to bring Naks back to spec.  Many of us have had work
by him and the decision is unanimous.  He will do great work at a
reasonable price.

The gentleman seeking help is recording and playing back most likely rare
jazz recordings.  If anyone needs Willy service it is this guy.

No disrespect on your offer but Willy would be the easy choice to assist.

Cheers, Steelhead


On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Alex Karpov <alex2000ca at aol.com> wrote:

> I know repair guy in LA. He fixed all my 14 cassette and R2R decks plus my
> other Nakamichi stuff: PA-7, CA-7, ST-7, OMS-7. For FREE. I paid for parts
> only. He is doing it for fun, not for living. That's why he is not so
> widely advertised like Willy.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 15, 2014, at 2:51 AM, Rocco Bertels <rocco.bertels at telenet.be>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the recommendations and my apologies for the late reply. Last
> Friday was my last day in LA, so time was really too short to get anything
> done.
> > Back in Belgium now, but we'll get Willy to check the Dragon by the time
> I'll be in LA again.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Rocco
> >
> >
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 01:42:49 -0700
> > From: Alex Karpov <alex2000ca at aol.com>
> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
> > Message-ID: <FB321978-D465-4C50-A218-E1F70DAA61C9 at aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Hi !
> >
> > I'm in Tarzana and I can try to help you.
> >
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Apr 7, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Rocco Bertels <rocco.bertels at telenet.be>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm helping out digitizing the cassette archives of Art Pepper (a great
> jazz artist), but unfortunately, the Nakamichi Dragon I was using has
> stopped working.
> >> Does anyone know of a repair guy in LA who could help me out with this?
> >> It's kind of urgent as I'll only be in LA for the rest of the week...
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> Rocco
> >>
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 08:34:09 -0700
> > From: Willy Hermann <willy at willyhermannservices.com>
> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
> > Message-ID:
> >    <CAM9V8Mda1N2Lbo5Pswd1stpvFLRdCdOyhtHxMkLnd+56G+tNfw at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Best of my knowledge there is nobody in the LA area.  I'm the closest and
> > do lots of work for people in the LA area.  I'm one day freight away.
> > Willy
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 10:14:02 -0800
> > From: Larry Casey <icsteelhead at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
> > Message-ID:
> >    <CAJ4erXk=r=d+Ux3ERYo2ctS2PfXpm2Z4r9Ega2tzueQAj5OOXg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Rocco,
> >
> > Willy Herman is the man.  Highly recommend you contact him.
> >
> > Good Luck,
> >
> > Cheers, Steelhead
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:26:59 -0500
> > From: thomas laurence <tnlaurence at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
> > Message-ID:
> >    <CAC+9SMzz_cbb-r=XVPCGL_bUGJvReEm8ttpR+Arc1sp_wk98+A at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Rocco,
> >
> > Willy Hermann is the absolute Nakamichi master.
> > Let him take care of that Dragon!
> >
> > Tom Laurence
> > Owner of three Willy Hermann serviced Naks
> >
> >
> >> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Larry Casey <icsteelhead at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Rocco,
> >>
> >> Willy Herman is the man.  Highly recommend you contact him.
> >>
> >> Good Luck,
> >>
> >> Cheers, Steelhead
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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> >
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>
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From tnlaurence at gmail.com  Thu Apr 17 09:21:59 2014
From: tnlaurence at gmail.com (thomas laurence)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 02:21:59 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
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So well put, Steelhead.
I am in absolute agreement.
Best,
Tom


On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Larry Casey <icsteelhead at gmail.com> wrote:

> That is fine Alex. He may even be a great guy.
>
> But Willy is a dedicated professional Nak repairman and has the
> specialized tools and KNOWLEDGE to bring Naks back to spec.  Many of us
> have had work by him and the decision is unanimous.  He will do great work
> at a reasonable price.
>
> The gentleman seeking help is recording and playing back most likely rare
> jazz recordings.  If anyone needs Willy service it is this guy.
>
> No disrespect on your offer but Willy would be the easy choice to assist.
>
> Cheers, Steelhead
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Alex Karpov <alex2000ca at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> I know repair guy in LA. He fixed all my 14 cassette and R2R decks plus
>> my other Nakamichi stuff: PA-7, CA-7, ST-7, OMS-7. For FREE. I paid for
>> parts only. He is doing it for fun, not for living. That's why he is not so
>> widely advertised like Willy.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Apr 15, 2014, at 2:51 AM, Rocco Bertels <rocco.bertels at telenet.be>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi guys,
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks for the recommendations and my apologies for the late reply.
>> Last Friday was my last day in LA, so time was really too short to get
>> anything done.
>> > Back in Belgium now, but we'll get Willy to check the Dragon by the
>> time I'll be in LA again.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Rocco
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Message: 1
>> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 01:42:49 -0700
>> > From: Alex Karpov <alex2000ca at aol.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
>> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>> > Message-ID: <FB321978-D465-4C50-A218-E1F70DAA61C9 at aol.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> >
>> > Hi !
>> >
>> > I'm in Tarzana and I can try to help you.
>> >
>> >
>> > Alex
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On Apr 7, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Rocco Bertels <rocco.bertels at telenet.be>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I'm helping out digitizing the cassette archives of Art Pepper (a
>> great jazz artist), but unfortunately, the Nakamichi Dragon I was using has
>> stopped working.
>> >> Does anyone know of a repair guy in LA who could help me out with this?
>> >> It's kind of urgent as I'll only be in LA for the rest of the week...
>> >>
>> >> Thanks!
>> >>
>> >> Rocco
>> >>
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Message: 5
>> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 08:34:09 -0700
>> > From: Willy Hermann <willy at willyhermannservices.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
>> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>> > Message-ID:
>> >    <CAM9V8Mda1N2Lbo5Pswd1stpvFLRdCdOyhtHxMkLnd+56G+tNfw at mail.gmail.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> >
>> > Best of my knowledge there is nobody in the LA area.  I'm the closest
>> and
>> > do lots of work for people in the LA area.  I'm one day freight away.
>> > Willy
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 6
>> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 10:14:02 -0800
>> > From: Larry Casey <icsteelhead at gmail.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
>> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>> > Message-ID:
>> >    <CAJ4erXk=r=d+Ux3ERYo2ctS2PfXpm2Z4r9Ega2tzueQAj5OOXg at mail.gmail.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> >
>> > Rocco,
>> >
>> > Willy Herman is the man.  Highly recommend you contact him.
>> >
>> > Good Luck,
>> >
>> > Cheers, Steelhead
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Message: 7
>> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:26:59 -0500
>> > From: thomas laurence <tnlaurence at gmail.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
>> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>> > Message-ID:
>> >    <CAC+9SMzz_cbb-r=XVPCGL_bUGJvReEm8ttpR+Arc1sp_wk98+A at mail.gmail.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> >
>> > Rocco,
>> >
>> > Willy Hermann is the absolute Nakamichi master.
>> > Let him take care of that Dragon!
>> >
>> > Tom Laurence
>> > Owner of three Willy Hermann serviced Naks
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Larry Casey <icsteelhead at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Rocco,
>> >>
>> >> Willy Herman is the man.  Highly recommend you contact him.
>> >>
>> >> Good Luck,
>> >>
>> >> Cheers, Steelhead
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>> >          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
>> >
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>> >                        Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
>> > Maintain your account here:
>> http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>> >
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>                         Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
>> Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>
>
>
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From alex2000ca at aol.com  Thu Apr 17 09:58:39 2014
From: alex2000ca at aol.com (Alex Karpov)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 00:58:39 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
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Everyone has right to have his own religion.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 17, 2014, at 12:21 AM, thomas laurence <tnlaurence at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> So well put, Steelhead.
> I am in absolute agreement.
> Best,
> Tom
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Larry Casey <icsteelhead at gmail.com> wrote:
>> That is fine Alex. He may even be a great guy.
>> 
>> But Willy is a dedicated professional Nak repairman and has the specialized tools and KNOWLEDGE to bring Naks back to spec.  Many of us have had work by him and the decision is unanimous.  He will do great work at a reasonable price.
>> 
>> The gentleman seeking help is recording and playing back most likely rare jazz recordings.  If anyone needs Willy service it is this guy.
>> 
>> No disrespect on your offer but Willy would be the easy choice to assist.
>> 
>> Cheers, Steelhead
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Alex Karpov <alex2000ca at aol.com> wrote:
>>> I know repair guy in LA. He fixed all my 14 cassette and R2R decks plus my other Nakamichi stuff: PA-7, CA-7, ST-7, OMS-7. For FREE. I paid for parts only. He is doing it for fun, not for living. That's why he is not so widely advertised like Willy.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> > On Apr 15, 2014, at 2:51 AM, Rocco Bertels <rocco.bertels at telenet.be> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi guys,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for the recommendations and my apologies for the late reply. Last Friday was my last day in LA, so time was really too short to get anything done.
>>> > Back in Belgium now, but we'll get Willy to check the Dragon by the time I'll be in LA again.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> >
>>> > Rocco
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Message: 1
>>> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 01:42:49 -0700
>>> > From: Alex Karpov <alex2000ca at aol.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
>>> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>>> > Message-ID: <FB321978-D465-4C50-A218-E1F70DAA61C9 at aol.com>
>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>> >
>>> > Hi !
>>> >
>>> > I'm in Tarzana and I can try to help you.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Alex
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>> >
>>> >> On Apr 7, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Rocco Bertels <rocco.bertels at telenet.be> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm helping out digitizing the cassette archives of Art Pepper (a great jazz artist), but unfortunately, the Nakamichi Dragon I was using has stopped working.
>>> >> Does anyone know of a repair guy in LA who could help me out with this?
>>> >> It's kind of urgent as I'll only be in LA for the rest of the week...
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks!
>>> >>
>>> >> Rocco
>>> >> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ------------------------------
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Message: 5
>>> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 08:34:09 -0700
>>> > From: Willy Hermann <willy at willyhermannservices.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
>>> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>>> > Message-ID:
>>> >    <CAM9V8Mda1N2Lbo5Pswd1stpvFLRdCdOyhtHxMkLnd+56G+tNfw at mail.gmail.com>
>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>> >
>>> > Best of my knowledge there is nobody in the LA area.  I'm the closest and
>>> > do lots of work for people in the LA area.  I'm one day freight away.
>>> > Willy
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ------------------------------
>>> >
>>> > Message: 6
>>> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 10:14:02 -0800
>>> > From: Larry Casey <icsteelhead at gmail.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
>>> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>>> > Message-ID:
>>> >    <CAJ4erXk=r=d+Ux3ERYo2ctS2PfXpm2Z4r9Ega2tzueQAj5OOXg at mail.gmail.com>
>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>> >
>>> > Rocco,
>>> >
>>> > Willy Herman is the man.  Highly recommend you contact him.
>>> >
>>> > Good Luck,
>>> >
>>> > Cheers, Steelhead
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Message: 7
>>> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:26:59 -0500
>>> > From: thomas laurence <tnlaurence at gmail.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
>>> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>>> > Message-ID:
>>> >    <CAC+9SMzz_cbb-r=XVPCGL_bUGJvReEm8ttpR+Arc1sp_wk98+A at mail.gmail.com>
>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>> >
>>> > Rocco,
>>> >
>>> > Willy Hermann is the absolute Nakamichi master.
>>> > Let him take care of that Dragon!
>>> >
>>> > Tom Laurence
>>> > Owner of three Willy Hermann serviced Naks
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Larry Casey <icsteelhead at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Rocco,
>>> >>
>>> >> Willy Herman is the man.  Highly recommend you contact him.
>>> >>
>>> >> Good Luck,
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers, Steelhead
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>> >          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
>>> > ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>> >                        Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
>>> > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>>> > ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>> 
>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>                         Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
>>> Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>> 
>> 
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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>> Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
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> 
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From alex2000ca at aol.com  Thu Apr 17 12:11:41 2014
From: alex2000ca at aol.com (Alex Karpov)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 03:11:41 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
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Rocco's question was about LA, not who is better: Willy Hermann or Perry Esposito, Alex Nikitin or Luis Peromarta, etc. Naks repair is not rocket science and I'm sure hundreds of people around the world can do work on same level. Many of them don't even speak English.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 16, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Larry Casey <icsteelhead at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> That is fine Alex. He may even be a great guy.
> 
> But Willy is a dedicated professional Nak repairman and has the specialized tools and KNOWLEDGE to bring Naks back to spec.  Many of us have had work by him and the decision is unanimous.  He will do great work at a reasonable price.
> 
> The gentleman seeking help is recording and playing back most likely rare jazz recordings.  If anyone needs Willy service it is this guy.
> 
> No disrespect on your offer but Willy would be the easy choice to assist.
> 
> Cheers, Steelhead
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Alex Karpov <alex2000ca at aol.com> wrote:
>> I know repair guy in LA. He fixed all my 14 cassette and R2R decks plus my other Nakamichi stuff: PA-7, CA-7, ST-7, OMS-7. For FREE. I paid for parts only. He is doing it for fun, not for living. That's why he is not so widely advertised like Willy.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Apr 15, 2014, at 2:51 AM, Rocco Bertels <rocco.bertels at telenet.be> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi guys,
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks for the recommendations and my apologies for the late reply. Last Friday was my last day in LA, so time was really too short to get anything done.
>> > Back in Belgium now, but we'll get Willy to check the Dragon by the time I'll be in LA again.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Rocco
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Message: 1
>> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 01:42:49 -0700
>> > From: Alex Karpov <alex2000ca at aol.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
>> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>> > Message-ID: <FB321978-D465-4C50-A218-E1F70DAA61C9 at aol.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> >
>> > Hi !
>> >
>> > I'm in Tarzana and I can try to help you.
>> >
>> >
>> > Alex
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On Apr 7, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Rocco Bertels <rocco.bertels at telenet.be> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I'm helping out digitizing the cassette archives of Art Pepper (a great jazz artist), but unfortunately, the Nakamichi Dragon I was using has stopped working.
>> >> Does anyone know of a repair guy in LA who could help me out with this?
>> >> It's kind of urgent as I'll only be in LA for the rest of the week...
>> >>
>> >> Thanks!
>> >>
>> >> Rocco
>> >> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Message: 5
>> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 08:34:09 -0700
>> > From: Willy Hermann <willy at willyhermannservices.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
>> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>> > Message-ID:
>> >    <CAM9V8Mda1N2Lbo5Pswd1stpvFLRdCdOyhtHxMkLnd+56G+tNfw at mail.gmail.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> >
>> > Best of my knowledge there is nobody in the LA area.  I'm the closest and
>> > do lots of work for people in the LA area.  I'm one day freight away.
>> > Willy
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 6
>> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 10:14:02 -0800
>> > From: Larry Casey <icsteelhead at gmail.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
>> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>> > Message-ID:
>> >    <CAJ4erXk=r=d+Ux3ERYo2ctS2PfXpm2Z4r9Ega2tzueQAj5OOXg at mail.gmail.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> >
>> > Rocco,
>> >
>> > Willy Herman is the man.  Highly recommend you contact him.
>> >
>> > Good Luck,
>> >
>> > Cheers, Steelhead
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Message: 7
>> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:26:59 -0500
>> > From: thomas laurence <tnlaurence at gmail.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
>> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>> > Message-ID:
>> >    <CAC+9SMzz_cbb-r=XVPCGL_bUGJvReEm8ttpR+Arc1sp_wk98+A at mail.gmail.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> >
>> > Rocco,
>> >
>> > Willy Hermann is the absolute Nakamichi master.
>> > Let him take care of that Dragon!
>> >
>> > Tom Laurence
>> > Owner of three Willy Hermann serviced Naks
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Larry Casey <icsteelhead at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Rocco,
>> >>
>> >> Willy Herman is the man.  Highly recommend you contact him.
>> >>
>> >> Good Luck,
>> >>
>> >> Cheers, Steelhead
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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From mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk  Thu Apr 17 18:28:23 2014
From: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk (Mercedes Benz)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:28:23 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts
Message-ID: <BAY402-EAS1720D34E40B6C1EBC5824AFB6520@phx.gbl>

Hi,

Has anyone bought and measured belts from this guy and how good are they? 

http://m.ebay.com/itm/111041608193?nav=SEARCH

Any feedback will be appreciated.

Regards
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Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 13:21:32 -0400
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From wheijke at xs4all.nl  Thu Apr 17 20:14:36 2014
From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 20:14:36 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Original Nakamichi Belts
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Maybe an obvious hint, but ESL Labs apparently still have a good supply of
original precision Nakamichi belts.

Contact jeff for more info at http://www.nakamichi.us/

Wouter



From alex2000ca at aol.com  Thu Apr 17 16:54:43 2014
From: alex2000ca at aol.com (Alex Karpov)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 07:54:43 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
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He doesn't have all tools, tapes and equipment . I do.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 17, 2014, at 6:13 AM, daniel.botelho at gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi Alex,
> 
> Nakamichi repair is simple enough, but if you want it calibrated to FACTORY specifications and need to do head alignment, stroke, pinch roller adjustments, good luck to your free tech. 
> 
> If he has all of the nak (or equivalent) calibration tapes as well as the tape well alignment tools and does it for free, I would be impressed. 
> 
> All of the techs that you mentioned have spend considerable money and time into their tools. And they have a lot of experience and the knowledge to bring these decks back to factory spec.  
> 
> Let's not forget that these techs do this for a living and need to pay their bills, and bring food on the table... ;)
> 
> Sure, most people can swap a belt or idler tire and it may sound ok. But for most of us, ‎we want these decks to sound as good as a Nakamichi... ;)
> 
> But hey, nice find! Always nice to find a qualified tech to do your work for free.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Alex Karpov
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 7:18 AM
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Reply To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
> 
> Rocco's question was about LA, not who is better: Willy Hermann or Perry Esposito, Alex Nikitin or Luis Peromarta, etc. Naks repair is not rocket science and I'm sure hundreds of people around the world can do work on same level. Many of them don't even speak English.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 16, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Larry Casey <icsteelhead at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> That is fine Alex. He may even be a great guy.
>> 
>> But Willy is a dedicated professional Nak repairman and has the specialized tools and KNOWLEDGE to bring Naks back to spec.  Many of us have had work by him and the decision is unanimous.  He will do great work at a reasonable price.
>> 
>> The gentleman seeking help is recording and playing back most likely rare jazz recordings.  If anyone needs Willy service it is this guy.
>> 
>> No disrespect on your offer but Willy would be the easy choice to assist.
>> 
>> Cheers, Steelhead
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Alex Karpov <alex2000ca at aol.com> wrote:
>>> I know repair guy in LA. He fixed all my 14 cassette and R2R decks plus my other Nakamichi stuff: PA-7, CA-7, ST-7, OMS-7. For FREE. I paid for parts only. He is doing it for fun, not for living. That's why he is not so widely advertised like Willy.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> > On Apr 15, 2014, at 2:51 AM, Rocco Bertels <rocco.bertels at telenet.be> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi guys,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for the recommendations and my apologies for the late reply. Last Friday was my last day in LA, so time was really too short to get anything done.
>>> > Back in Belgium now, but we'll get Willy to check the Dragon by the time I'll be in LA again.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> >
>>> > Rocco
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Message: 1
>>> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 01:42:49 -0700
>>> > From: Alex Karpov <alex2000ca at aol.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
>>> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>>> > Message-ID: <FB321978-D465-4C50-A218-E1F70DAA61C9 at aol.com>
>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>> >
>>> > Hi !
>>> >
>>> > I'm in Tarzana and I can try to help you.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Alex
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>> >
>>> >> On Apr 7, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Rocco Bertels <rocco.bertels at telenet.be> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm helping out digitizing the cassette archives of Art Pepper (a great jazz artist), but unfortunately, the Nakamichi Dragon I was using has stopped working.
>>> >> Does anyone know of a repair guy in LA who could help me out with this?
>>> >> It's kind of urgent as I'll only be in LA for the rest of the week...
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks!
>>> >>
>>> >> Rocco
>>> >> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ------------------------------
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Message: 5
>>> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 08:34:09 -0700
>>> > From: Willy Hermann <willy at willyhermannservices.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
>>> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>>> > Message-ID:
>>> >    <CAM9V8Mda1N2Lbo5Pswd1stpvFLRdCdOyhtHxMkLnd+56G+tNfw at mail.gmail.com>
>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>> >
>>> > Best of my knowledge there is nobody in the LA area.  I'm the closest and
>>> > do lots of work for people in the LA area.  I'm one day freight away.
>>> > Willy
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ------------------------------
>>> >
>>> > Message: 6
>>> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 10:14:02 -0800
>>> > From: Larry Casey <icsteelhead at gmail.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
>>> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>>> > Message-ID:
>>> >    <CAJ4erXk=r=d+Ux3ERYo2ctS2PfXpm2Z4r9Ega2tzueQAj5OOXg at mail.gmail.com>
>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>> >
>>> > Rocco,
>>> >
>>> > Willy Herman is the man.  Highly recommend you contact him.
>>> >
>>> > Good Luck,
>>> >
>>> > Cheers, Steelhead
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Message: 7
>>> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:26:59 -0500
>>> > From: thomas laurence <tnlaurence at gmail.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
>>> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>>> > Message-ID:
>>> >    <CAC+9SMzz_cbb-r=XVPCGL_bUGJvReEm8ttpR+Arc1sp_wk98+A at mail.gmail.com>
>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>> >
>>> > Rocco,
>>> >
>>> > Willy Hermann is the absolute Nakamichi master.
>>> > Let him take care of that Dragon!
>>> >
>>> > Tom Laurence
>>> > Owner of three Willy Hermann serviced Naks
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Larry Casey <icsteelhead at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Rocco,
>>> >>
>>> >> Willy Herman is the man.  Highly recommend you contact him.
>>> >>
>>> >> Good Luck,
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers, Steelhead
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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From rkrause at multiplan.com.br  Thu Apr 17 19:08:48 2014
From: rkrause at multiplan.com.br (Rodrigo Krause)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:08:48 +0000
Subject: RES: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts
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I have bought from him. It is just fine. The catch is that you have to specify what belt you need, I mean size and girth... I´ve ordered all the way down to Brazil and I got it in the mail.

I still prefer the odds of dealing with Fred Marrs though. It seems like "more fun"... other than that, you may all try Vintage Electronics. They are trustworthy.

All the best.

Rodrigo Krause

De: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] Em nome de Mercedes Benz
Enviada em: quinta-feira, 17 de abril de 2014 13:28
Para: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Assunto: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts

Hi,

Has anyone bought and measured belts from this guy and how good are they?

http://m.ebay.com/itm/111041608193?nav=SEARCH

Any feedback will be appreciated.

Regards
Nadeem

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From wbendler at sbcglobal.net  Thu Apr 17 19:20:57 2014
From: wbendler at sbcglobal.net (Warren Bendler)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 10:20:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts
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I recently bought a belt kit for a Sony deck. The fit was perfect and the wow and flutter was .02% max so I'd say they are good. I bought a belt another time and it was fine and someone gave me one to install on a Pioneer RT-909 reel to reel, which needs the belt to be perfect, and it worked great.
I do use Vintage Electronics as an alternate source when Fred gets backed up, but I caution that I have not tried his belts on any Nakamichi products.

Warren




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Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 12:28 PM
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts
 


Hi,

Has anyone bought and measured belts from this guy and how good are they? 

http://m.ebay.com/itm/111041608193?nav=SEARCH

Any feedback will be appreciated.

Regards
Nadeem

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From alex2000ca at aol.com  Thu Apr 17 20:24:58 2014
From: alex2000ca at aol.com (Alex Karpov)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:24:58 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts
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His belts not same size as original. For example: original - 4.5 mm wide, his belt - 3.5 mm wide. They are good for some decks, for some - not.

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> On Apr 17, 2014, at 10:21 AM, daniel.botelho at gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I've used his belts for my teac decks and this kit for a bx300. They are decent, and work well. 
> 
> Shipping is fast as well. :) turnaround is usually under 2 weeks to canada.
> 
> 
> 
> From: Mercedes Benz
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 12:49 PM
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Reply To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Has anyone bought and measured belts from this guy and how good are they? 
> 
> http://m.ebay.com/itm/111041608193?nav=SEARCH
> 
> Any feedback will be appreciated.
> 
> Regards
> Nadeem
> 
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From mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk  Thu Apr 17 21:43:31 2014
From: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk (Mercedes Benz)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 20:43:31 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts
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Thanks for the feedback Daniel, I appreciate it.

-Nadeem

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From mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk  Fri Apr 18 09:55:18 2014
From: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk (Mercedes Benz)
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 08:55:18 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts
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Alex, if what you say is true then the belts should not measure well. But in all of his listings the guy makes a point that the belts just have to be of the correct size. He even refers to Fred but that's just business rivalry.

I actually needed a belt for my Cassette Deck 1 and bought it from Revox_de in Germany but after installing it the sound of the deck changed significantly so when checked I could actually see the belt wobble over the flywheel at regular intervals so I need a good belt for my deck and it seems like I'll just have to order from Fred and hope it arrives soon.

Thanks everyone for your input.

-Nadeem

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From: Alex Karpov
Sent: 17/04/2014 22:35
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts

His belts not same size as original. For example: original - 4.5 mm wide, his belt - 3.5 mm wide. They are good for some decks, for some - not.

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> On Apr 17, 2014, at 10:21 AM, daniel.botelho at gmail.com wrote:
>
> I've used his belts for my teac decks and this kit for a bx300. They are decent, and work well.
>
> Shipping is fast as well. :) turnaround is usually under 2 weeks to canada.
>
>
>
> From: Mercedes Benz
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 12:49 PM
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Reply To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts
>
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone bought and measured belts from this guy and how good are they?
>
> http://m.ebay.com/itm/111041608193?nav=SEARCH
>
> Any feedback will be appreciated.
>
> Regards
> Nadeem
>
> Sent from my killer Windows Phone
>
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From gene at jazzgenemusic.com  Thu Apr 17 21:46:04 2014
From: gene at jazzgenemusic.com (Gene Ess)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 15:46:04 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
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Someone said Willy Herman is unanimous repair tech for Naks?  Please....  I got back couple decks that wasn't even close to being at spec. His excuse being "most would have not noticed". 

If you want a Nak done right, ESL is it. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 17, 2014, at 10:54 AM, Alex Karpov <alex2000ca at aol.com> wrote:
> 
> He doesn't have all tools, tapes and equipment . I do.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 6:13 AM, daniel.botelho at gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Alex,
>> 
>> Nakamichi repair is simple enough, but if you want it calibrated to FACTORY specifications and need to do head alignment, stroke, pinch roller adjustments, good luck to your free tech. 
>> 
>> If he has all of the nak (or equivalent) calibration tapes as well as the tape well alignment tools and does it for free, I would be impressed. 
>> 
>> All of the techs that you mentioned have spend considerable money and time into their tools. And they have a lot of experience and the knowledge to bring these decks back to factory spec.  
>> 
>> Let's not forget that these techs do this for a living and need to pay their bills, and bring food on the table... ;)
>> 
>> Sure, most people can swap a belt or idler tire and it may sound ok. But for most of us, ‎we want these decks to sound as good as a Nakamichi... ;)
>> 
>> But hey, nice find! Always nice to find a qualified tech to do your work for free.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Alex Karpov
>> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 7:18 AM
>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>> Reply To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
>> 
>> Rocco's question was about LA, not who is better: Willy Hermann or Perry Esposito, Alex Nikitin or Luis Peromarta, etc. Naks repair is not rocket science and I'm sure hundreds of people around the world can do work on same level. Many of them don't even speak English.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 16, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Larry Casey <icsteelhead at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That is fine Alex. He may even be a great guy.
>>> 
>>> But Willy is a dedicated professional Nak repairman and has the specialized tools and KNOWLEDGE to bring Naks back to spec.  Many of us have had work by him and the decision is unanimous.  He will do great work at a reasonable price.
>>> 
>>> The gentleman seeking help is recording and playing back most likely rare jazz recordings.  If anyone needs Willy service it is this guy.
>>> 
>>> No disrespect on your offer but Willy would be the easy choice to assist.
>>> 
>>> Cheers, Steelhead
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Alex Karpov <alex2000ca at aol.com> wrote:
>>>> I know repair guy in LA. He fixed all my 14 cassette and R2R decks plus my other Nakamichi stuff: PA-7, CA-7, ST-7, OMS-7. For FREE. I paid for parts only. He is doing it for fun, not for living. That's why he is not so widely advertised like Willy.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> > On Apr 15, 2014, at 2:51 AM, Rocco Bertels <rocco.bertels at telenet.be> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi guys,
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks for the recommendations and my apologies for the late reply. Last Friday was my last day in LA, so time was really too short to get anything done.
>>>> > Back in Belgium now, but we'll get Willy to check the Dragon by the time I'll be in LA again.
>>>> >
>>>> > Cheers,
>>>> >
>>>> > Rocco
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Message: 1
>>>> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 01:42:49 -0700
>>>> > From: Alex Karpov <alex2000ca at aol.com>
>>>> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
>>>> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>>>> > Message-ID: <FB321978-D465-4C50-A218-E1F70DAA61C9 at aol.com>
>>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi !
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm in Tarzana and I can try to help you.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Alex
>>>> >
>>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Apr 7, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Rocco Bertels <rocco.bertels at telenet.be> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hi,
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I'm helping out digitizing the cassette archives of Art Pepper (a great jazz artist), but unfortunately, the Nakamichi Dragon I was using has stopped working.
>>>> >> Does anyone know of a repair guy in LA who could help me out with this?
>>>> >> It's kind of urgent as I'll only be in LA for the rest of the week...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thanks!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Rocco
>>>> >> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ------------------------------
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Message: 5
>>>> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 08:34:09 -0700
>>>> > From: Willy Hermann <willy at willyhermannservices.com>
>>>> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
>>>> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>>>> > Message-ID:
>>>> >    <CAM9V8Mda1N2Lbo5Pswd1stpvFLRdCdOyhtHxMkLnd+56G+tNfw at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>> >
>>>> > Best of my knowledge there is nobody in the LA area.  I'm the closest and
>>>> > do lots of work for people in the LA area.  I'm one day freight away.
>>>> > Willy
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ------------------------------
>>>> >
>>>> > Message: 6
>>>> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 10:14:02 -0800
>>>> > From: Larry Casey <icsteelhead at gmail.com>
>>>> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
>>>> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>>>> > Message-ID:
>>>> >    <CAJ4erXk=r=d+Ux3ERYo2ctS2PfXpm2Z4r9Ega2tzueQAj5OOXg at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>> >
>>>> > Rocco,
>>>> >
>>>> > Willy Herman is the man.  Highly recommend you contact him.
>>>> >
>>>> > Good Luck,
>>>> >
>>>> > Cheers, Steelhead
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Message: 7
>>>> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:26:59 -0500
>>>> > From: thomas laurence <tnlaurence at gmail.com>
>>>> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
>>>> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>>>> > Message-ID:
>>>> >    <CAC+9SMzz_cbb-r=XVPCGL_bUGJvReEm8ttpR+Arc1sp_wk98+A at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>> >
>>>> > Rocco,
>>>> >
>>>> > Willy Hermann is the absolute Nakamichi master.
>>>> > Let him take care of that Dragon!
>>>> >
>>>> > Tom Laurence
>>>> > Owner of three Willy Hermann serviced Naks
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Larry Casey <icsteelhead at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Rocco,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Willy Herman is the man.  Highly recommend you contact him.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Good Luck,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Cheers, Steelhead
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
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From psycho at rayhogan.net  Fri Apr 18 11:25:02 2014
From: psycho at rayhogan.net (Hogan Ray)
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 18:55:02 +0930
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Communications
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What’s the story with Marrs?

I ordered and paid for a 480 belt kit almost 3 months ago for delivery to Australia.

Now, I can’t even get a response regarding the status of my order!!

Anyone know how to get action from Mr. Marrs as I would really like to complete repairs to my 480.

Thanks


Ray Hogan




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Beauty  is not love.
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From angel9esoteric at gmail.com  Fri Apr 18 17:40:20 2014
From: angel9esoteric at gmail.com (MD)
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 11:40:20 -0400
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...or Stephen Sank back in a day

On 4/17/14, Gene Ess <gene at jazzgenemusic.com> wrote:
> Someone said Willy Herman is unanimous repair tech for Naks?  Please....  I
> got back couple decks that wasn't even close to being at spec. His excuse
> being "most would have not noticed".
>
> If you want a Nak done right, ESL is it.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 10:54 AM, Alex Karpov <alex2000ca at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> He doesn't have all tools, tapes and equipment . I do.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 6:13 AM, daniel.botelho at gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Alex,
>>>
>>> Nakamichi repair is simple enough, but if you want it calibrated to
>>> FACTORY specifications and need to do head alignment, stroke, pinch
>>> roller adjustments, good luck to your free tech.
>>>
>>> If he has all of the nak (or equivalent) calibration tapes as well as the
>>> tape well alignment tools and does it for free, I would be impressed.
>>>
>>> All of the techs that you mentioned have spend considerable money and
>>> time into their tools. And they have a lot of experience and the
>>> knowledge to bring these decks back to factory spec.
>>>
>>> Let's not forget that these techs do this for a living and need to pay
>>> their bills, and bring food on the table... ;)
>>>
>>> Sure, most people can swap a belt or idler tire and it may sound ok. But
>>> for most of us, ‎we want these decks to sound as good as a Nakamichi...
>>> ;)
>>>
>>> But hey, nice find! Always nice to find a qualified tech to do your work
>>> for free.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Alex Karpov
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 7:18 AM
>>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>>> Reply To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
>>>
>>> Rocco's question was about LA, not who is better: Willy Hermann or Perry
>>> Esposito, Alex Nikitin or Luis Peromarta, etc. Naks repair is not rocket
>>> science and I'm sure hundreds of people around the world can do work on
>>> same level. Many of them don't even speak English.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Apr 16, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Larry Casey <icsteelhead at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That is fine Alex. He may even be a great guy.
>>>>
>>>> But Willy is a dedicated professional Nak repairman and has the
>>>> specialized tools and KNOWLEDGE to bring Naks back to spec.  Many of us
>>>> have had work by him and the decision is unanimous.  He will do great
>>>> work at a reasonable price.
>>>>
>>>> The gentleman seeking help is recording and playing back most likely
>>>> rare jazz recordings.  If anyone needs Willy service it is this guy.
>>>>
>>>> No disrespect on your offer but Willy would be the easy choice to
>>>> assist.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, Steelhead
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Alex Karpov <alex2000ca at aol.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I know repair guy in LA. He fixed all my 14 cassette and R2R decks plus
>>>>> my other Nakamichi stuff: PA-7, CA-7, ST-7, OMS-7. For FREE. I paid for
>>>>> parts only. He is doing it for fun, not for living. That's why he is
>>>>> not so widely advertised like Willy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> > On Apr 15, 2014, at 2:51 AM, Rocco Bertels <rocco.bertels at telenet.be>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Hi guys,
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks for the recommendations and my apologies for the late reply.
>>>>> > Last Friday was my last day in LA, so time was really too short to
>>>>> > get anything done.
>>>>> > Back in Belgium now, but we'll get Willy to check the Dragon by the
>>>>> > time I'll be in LA again.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Cheers,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Rocco
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Message: 1
>>>>> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 01:42:49 -0700
>>>>> > From: Alex Karpov <alex2000ca at aol.com>
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
>>>>> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>>>>> > Message-ID: <FB321978-D465-4C50-A218-E1F70DAA61C9 at aol.com>
>>>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Hi !
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I'm in Tarzana and I can try to help you.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Alex
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> On Apr 7, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Rocco Bertels <rocco.bertels at telenet.be>
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Hi,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I'm helping out digitizing the cassette archives of Art Pepper (a
>>>>> >> great jazz artist), but unfortunately, the Nakamichi Dragon I was
>>>>> >> using has stopped working.
>>>>> >> Does anyone know of a repair guy in LA who could help me out with
>>>>> >> this?
>>>>> >> It's kind of urgent as I'll only be in LA for the rest of the
>>>>> >> week...
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Thanks!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Rocco
>>>>> >> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ------------------------------
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Message: 5
>>>>> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 08:34:09 -0700
>>>>> > From: Willy Hermann <willy at willyhermannservices.com>
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
>>>>> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>>>>> > Message-ID:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > <CAM9V8Mda1N2Lbo5Pswd1stpvFLRdCdOyhtHxMkLnd+56G+tNfw at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Best of my knowledge there is nobody in the LA area.  I'm the closest
>>>>> > and
>>>>> > do lots of work for people in the LA area.  I'm one day freight
>>>>> > away.
>>>>> > Willy
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ------------------------------
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Message: 6
>>>>> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 10:14:02 -0800
>>>>> > From: Larry Casey <icsteelhead at gmail.com>
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
>>>>> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>>>>> > Message-ID:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > <CAJ4erXk=r=d+Ux3ERYo2ctS2PfXpm2Z4r9Ega2tzueQAj5OOXg at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Rocco,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Willy Herman is the man.  Highly recommend you contact him.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Good Luck,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Cheers, Steelhead
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Message: 7
>>>>> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:26:59 -0500
>>>>> > From: thomas laurence <tnlaurence at gmail.com>
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
>>>>> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
>>>>> > Message-ID:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > <CAC+9SMzz_cbb-r=XVPCGL_bUGJvReEm8ttpR+Arc1sp_wk98+A at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Rocco,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Willy Hermann is the absolute Nakamichi master.
>>>>> > Let him take care of that Dragon!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Tom Laurence
>>>>> > Owner of three Willy Hermann serviced Naks
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Larry Casey <icsteelhead at gmail.com>
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Rocco,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Willy Herman is the man.  Highly recommend you contact him.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Good Luck,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Cheers, Steelhead
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
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From vidguy_me at hotmail.com  Fri Apr 18 17:24:46 2014
From: vidguy_me at hotmail.com (vidguy vidguy)
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 15:24:46 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Communications
In-Reply-To: <0B692EF5-43BE-4E8C-84BD-80614F0745F7@rayhogan.net>
References: <0B692EF5-43BE-4E8C-84BD-80614F0745F7@rayhogan.net>
Message-ID: <SNT149-W81AA6D8E36B5B22B5D2AC5885D0@phx.gbl>

I've been in the same boat.
There are a few people defending Marrs.

I've noticed that most of them are "techs", ie: they order more than 3 sets of belts in a year.
(Or, they've have not ordered belts in a very long time)

I've ordered belts from Marrs in the past. and have gotten great results.

Until last fall....

I've mentioned my experience a few times, no need to go into it.
Let's just say, I've spent more than a few dollars, and multiple attempts to get the belts I need from Fred.. no luck.

If you are a tech, and have had a long relationship with Fred, or place an order in the $100's of dollars, you might get your belts.
IF you are a new customer, or only order 1 or 2 belt kits.. 

You will wait MORE than 3 months, and you will not get a response from Fred.

This is a reality. (whatever the reason.)

However, IF you file a paypal claim, HE WILL RESPOND IMMEDIATELY.
Seriously, place an order.. email for a month, you will get no response at all. (Sometimes you get an electronic tracking number, that never ships)
Communicate through a paypal dispute, and you will finaly get your response.)

HOWEVER, you will than piss off Fred, who will "ban" you from  ordering belts.
Although, since he won't send you the belt in the first place, what are you losing...

Fred has FANTASTIC belts, but if YOU CAN'T actually GET ONE, what good are they?!?

I ask Perry, and the others defending Marrs.
When was the last time YOU got a belt, from Fred, and how many Belts have you ordered in the last 8 months?

From: psycho at rayhogan.net
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 18:55:02 +0930
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Communications

What’s the story with Marrs?
I ordered and paid for a 480 belt kit almost 3 months ago for delivery to Australia.
Now, I can’t even get a response regarding the status of my order!!
Anyone know how to get action from Mr. Marrs as I would really like to complete repairs to my 480.
Thanks

Ray Hogan




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Wisdom is not truth.
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Beauty  is not love.
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From dieseldude1 at gmail.com  Fri Apr 18 17:43:49 2014
From: dieseldude1 at gmail.com (Samuel Crider)
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 10:43:49 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Communications
In-Reply-To: <0B692EF5-43BE-4E8C-84BD-80614F0745F7@rayhogan.net>
References: <0B692EF5-43BE-4E8C-84BD-80614F0745F7@rayhogan.net>
Message-ID: <CAAHO_iB6WqbsSCXD6kHbOQSfNZWkgK7ar05BUfBEGQuMn8oqQw@mail.gmail.com>

FZ rules....Hang in there. Hopefully Mars will work out the issues soon.
This is one of those ever so rare businesses who  exist due to appreciation
of a dead technology. Capitalistic profiteering was certainly not the
motivation here. What would really be sweet is the introduction of drop in
replacement transports. Fully renewed, new motors, heads, pinch rollers,
etc. Even fully aligned. I'm truly impressed with the number of Naks being
brought back to life worldwide. Never thought I would see such interest.
Enjoy the analog bliss..
On Apr 18, 2014 5:02 AM, "Hogan Ray" <psycho at rayhogan.net> wrote:

> What’s the story with Marrs?
>
> I ordered and paid for a 480 belt kit almost 3 months ago for delivery to
> Australia.
>
> Now, I can’t even get a response regarding the status of my order!!
>
> Anyone know how to get action from Mr. Marrs as I would really like to
> complete repairs to my 480.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Ray Hogan
>
>
>
>
> Information is not knowledge.
> Knowledge  is not wisdom.
> Wisdom is not truth.
> Truth is not beauty.
> Beauty  is not love.
> Love is not music.
> Music is the best. - Frank Zappa
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From alex2000ca at aol.com  Fri Apr 18 19:25:23 2014
From: alex2000ca at aol.com (Alex Karpov)
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 10:25:23 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts
In-Reply-To: <COL401-EAS293F1A6E4C70DE4057FA1F5B65D0@phx.gbl>
References: <COL401-EAS293F1A6E4C70DE4057FA1F5B65D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <0C539563-85AB-4913-B32A-D483C17AC3C2@aol.com>

I had same problem with Tascam 32 when got belt from Revox_de. 
I can' t tell you about CD1. For Akai ant Teac cassette decks belts work just fine. BX- 300 also ok. For RX-505 belt was narrow and W&F too high. My friend ordered for Aiwa and W&F was out of specification.   

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 18, 2014, at 12:55 AM, Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Alex, if what you say is true then the belts should not measure well. But in all of his listings the guy makes a point that the belts just have to be of the correct size. He even refers to Fred but that's just business rivalry.
> 
> I actually needed a belt for my Cassette Deck 1 and bought it from Revox_de in Germany but after installing it the sound of the deck changed significantly so when checked I could actually see the belt wobble over the flywheel at regular intervals so I need a good belt for my deck and it seems like I'll just have to order from Fred and hope it arrives soon.
> 
> Thanks everyone for your input.
> 
> -Nadeem
> 
> Sent from my killer Windows Phone
> From: Alex Karpov
> Sent: 17/04/2014 22:35
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts
> 
> His belts not same size as original. For example: original - 4.5 mm wide, his belt - 3.5 mm wide. They are good for some decks, for some - not.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 17, 2014, at 10:21 AM, daniel.botelho at gmail.com wrote:
> 
>> I've used his belts for my teac decks and this kit for a bx300. They are decent, and work well. 
>> 
>> Shipping is fast as well. :) turnaround is usually under 2 weeks to canada.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Mercedes Benz
>> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 12:49 PM
>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>> Reply To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>> Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Has anyone bought and measured belts from this guy and how good are they? 
>> 
>> http://m.ebay.com/itm/111041608193?nav=SEARCH
>> 
>> Any feedback will be appreciated.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Nadeem
>> 
>> Sent from my killer Windows Phone
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From angel9esoteric at gmail.com  Fri Apr 18 20:38:49 2014
From: angel9esoteric at gmail.com (MD)
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 14:38:49 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Communications
In-Reply-To: <SNT149-W81AA6D8E36B5B22B5D2AC5885D0@phx.gbl>
References: <0B692EF5-43BE-4E8C-84BD-80614F0745F7@rayhogan.net>
	<SNT149-W81AA6D8E36B5B22B5D2AC5885D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAEo=m-X46mwpJs9XE=47kwkhW9Ayf3=ifdtvLqN=em0f34+hYg@mail.gmail.com>

We need to find out his supplier in Japan,China or on Mars and abandon
this scum...I guess he is not making them himself somewhere in
Hillbilly woods...lol

On 4/18/14, vidguy vidguy <vidguy_me at hotmail.com> wrote:
> I've been in the same boat.
> There are a few people defending Marrs.
>
> I've noticed that most of them are "techs", ie: they order more than 3 sets
> of belts in a year.
> (Or, they've have not ordered belts in a very long time)
>
> I've ordered belts from Marrs in the past. and have gotten great results.
>
> Until last fall....
>
> I've mentioned my experience a few times, no need to go into it.
> Let's just say, I've spent more than a few dollars, and multiple attempts to
> get the belts I need from Fred.. no luck.
>
> If you are a tech, and have had a long relationship with Fred, or place an
> order in the $100's of dollars, you might get your belts.
> IF you are a new customer, or only order 1 or 2 belt kits..
>
> You will wait MORE than 3 months, and you will not get a response from
> Fred.
>
> This is a reality. (whatever the reason.)
>
> However, IF you file a paypal claim, HE WILL RESPOND IMMEDIATELY.
> Seriously, place an order.. email for a month, you will get no response at
> all. (Sometimes you get an electronic tracking number, that never ships)
> Communicate through a paypal dispute, and you will finaly get your
> response.)
>
> HOWEVER, you will than piss off Fred, who will "ban" you from  ordering
> belts.
> Although, since he won't send you the belt in the first place, what are you
> losing...
>
> Fred has FANTASTIC belts, but if YOU CAN'T actually GET ONE, what good are
> they?!?
>
> I ask Perry, and the others defending Marrs.
> When was the last time YOU got a belt, from Fred, and how many Belts have
> you ordered in the last 8 months?
>
> From: psycho at rayhogan.net
> Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 18:55:02 +0930
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Communications
>
> What’s the story with Marrs?
> I ordered and paid for a 480 belt kit almost 3 months ago for delivery to
> Australia.
> Now, I can’t even get a response regarding the status of my order!!
> Anyone know how to get action from Mr. Marrs as I would really like to
> complete repairs to my 480.
> Thanks
>
> Ray Hogan
>
>
>
>
> Information is not knowledge.
> Knowledge  is not wisdom.
> Wisdom is not truth.
> Truth is not beauty.
> Beauty  is not love.
> Love is not music.
> Music is the best. - Frank Zappa
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From kaupp240 at hotmail.com  Fri Apr 18 22:02:41 2014
From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com (Cheryl Kaupp)
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 10:02:41 -1000
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Communications
In-Reply-To: <SNT149-W81AA6D8E36B5B22B5D2AC5885D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP94A4337D630AC45AD44C1C865D0@phx.gbl>

I ordered a belt kit for a CD Player 2 back in January. I did get the belt
but it took 6 weeks. During that time, Fred closed and reopened the store
multiple times. At one point he said he was caught up with February orders
and I still didn't have my January order. I had sent several emails that he
did not respond to and finally sent one titled, "Where is my JANUARY
order????" or something like that. He did respond, with apologies, and sent
a tracking number. But it was about 4 days after receiving the tracking
number that he actually mailed it. Bear in mind that with online postage
purchases you can pay for the postage and receive a tracking number long
before the item is actually mailed. Some sellers on ebay now use this as an
excuse and blame the delay on the post office but I suspect most of them
just pay/print the postage days or weeks before they ever mail the item.
 
But the kit did arrive, it was the right one and it worked flawlessly. I
don't buy a lot a belt kits but have purchased about 5 kits (Nak and Sony
Walkman) from Fred in the past -- so I am basically a "nobody" when it comes
to Fred's belt business. This is the first time I had any issues.
 
Personally, I am glad he is there even if his sevice isn't stellar.
Measuring an old, stretched belt to determine the proper dimensions sounds
like an exercise in error and frustration -- it's so much easier to order a
kit by model. Let's all hope that Fred's situation improves and his
life/business get back on track.
 
Aloha,
Cheryl

  _____  

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of vidguy vidguy
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 5:25 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: [naktalk] Marrs Communications


I've been in the same boat.
There are a few people defending Marrs.

I've noticed that most of them are "techs", ie: they order more than 3 sets
of belts in a year.
(Or, they've have not ordered belts in a very long time)

I've ordered belts from Marrs in the past. and have gotten great results.

Until last fall....

I've mentioned my experience a few times, no need to go into it.
Let's just say, I've spent more than a few dollars, and multiple attempts to
get the belts I need from Fred.. no luck.

If you are a tech, and have had a long relationship with Fred, or place an
order in the $100's of dollars, you might get your belts.
IF you are a new customer, or only order 1 or 2 belt kits.. 

You will wait MORE than 3 months, and you will not get a response from Fred.

This is a reality. (whatever the reason.)

However, IF you file a paypal claim, HE WILL RESPOND IMMEDIATELY.
Seriously, place an order.. email for a month, you will get no response at
all. (Sometimes you get an electronic tracking number, that never ships)
Communicate through a paypal dispute, and you will finaly get your
response.)

HOWEVER, you will than piss off Fred, who will "ban" you from  ordering
belts.
Although, since he won't send you the belt in the first place, what are you
losing...

Fred has FANTASTIC belts, but if YOU CAN'T actually GET ONE, what good are
they?!?

I ask Perry, and the others defending Marrs.
When was the last time YOU got a belt, from Fred, and how many Belts have
you ordered in the last 8 months?


  _____  

From: psycho at rayhogan.net
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 18:55:02 +0930
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Communications

What's the story with Marrs? 

I ordered and paid for a 480 belt kit almost 3 months ago for delivery to
Australia.

Now, I can't even get a response regarding the status of my order!!

Anyone know how to get action from Mr. Marrs as I would really like to
complete repairs to my 480.

Thanks


Ray Hogan




Information is not knowledge.
Knowledge  is not wisdom.
Wisdom is not truth.
Truth is not beauty.
Beauty  is not love.
Love is not music.
Music is the best. - Frank Zappa











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From kaupp240 at hotmail.com  Fri Apr 18 22:11:24 2014
From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com (Cheryl Kaupp)
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 10:11:24 -1000
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Communications
In-Reply-To: <CAEo=m-X46mwpJs9XE=47kwkhW9Ayf3=ifdtvLqN=em0f34+hYg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP58AA30DC7D125CD26887D2865D0@phx.gbl>


"scum"

That seeems rather inappropriate/rude and doesn't belong here.
Cheryl 

-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of MD
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 8:39 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Communications

We need to find out his supplier in Japan,China or on Mars and abandon this
scum...I guess he is not making them himself somewhere in Hillbilly
woods...lol

On 4/18/14, vidguy vidguy <vidguy_me at hotmail.com> wrote:
> I've been in the same boat.
> There are a few people defending Marrs.



From n.van.wijnen at gmail.com  Fri Apr 18 23:21:37 2014
From: n.van.wijnen at gmail.com (Norman van Wijnen)
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 23:21:37 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Communications
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP58AA30DC7D125CD26887D2865D0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP58AA30DC7D125CD26887D2865D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BD75D418-BEFE-4BED-AF12-B5E1FF0EA12A@gmail.com>

Hi all,

If Fred has personal problems it is fair and normal  to give him some credits !
Maybe it is better to stop this discussion.

Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

> Op 18 apr. 2014 om 22:11 heeft Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> 
> "scum"
> 
> That seeems rather inappropriate/rude and doesn't belong here.
> Cheryl 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
> Of MD
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 8:39 AM
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Communications
> 
> We need to find out his supplier in Japan,China or on Mars and abandon this
> scum...I guess he is not making them himself somewhere in Hillbilly
> woods...lol
> 
>> On 4/18/14, vidguy vidguy <vidguy_me at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I've been in the same boat.
>> There are a few people defending Marrs.
> 
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From angel9esoteric at gmail.com  Sat Apr 19 03:51:50 2014
From: angel9esoteric at gmail.com (MD)
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 21:51:50 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Communications
In-Reply-To: <BD75D418-BEFE-4BED-AF12-B5E1FF0EA12A@gmail.com>
References: <BLU0-SMTP58AA30DC7D125CD26887D2865D0@phx.gbl>
	<BD75D418-BEFE-4BED-AF12-B5E1FF0EA12A@gmail.com>
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Ok, I really dont care but its UNAPPROPRIATE TO DO BUSINESS. Have you
seen his feedback on ebay? You would enjoy reading it. I f*cking hate
when someone takes advantage of people. If you dont want/like/hate
your business, just freaking close it. End of story.


On 4/18/14, Norman van Wijnen <n.van.wijnen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> If Fred has personal problems it is fair and normal  to give him some
> credits !
> Maybe it is better to stop this discussion.
>
> Norman
>
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>
>> Op 18 apr. 2014 om 22:11 heeft Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> het
>> volgende geschreven:
>>
>>
>> "scum"
>>
>> That seeems rather inappropriate/rude and doesn't belong here.
>> Cheryl
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of MD
>> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 8:39 AM
>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Communications
>>
>> We need to find out his supplier in Japan,China or on Mars and abandon
>> this
>> scum...I guess he is not making them himself somewhere in Hillbilly
>> woods...lol
>>
>>> On 4/18/14, vidguy vidguy <vidguy_me at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> I've been in the same boat.
>>> There are a few people defending Marrs.
>>
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>                        Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
>> Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>                         Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
> Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
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From littlelabs at littlelabs.com  Fri Apr 18 23:33:22 2014
From: littlelabs at littlelabs.com (littlelabs)
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 14:33:22 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Communications
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP58AA30DC7D125CD26887D2865D0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP58AA30DC7D125CD26887D2865D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <A3065CA0-7B58-433E-81F5-B2DA551340FB@littlelabs.com>

Well, I ordered a belt for a SONY CDP XA7ES CD player back in January, received notice early March with a tracking number, I realized at the beginning of April I hadn't received anything. Checked the tracking and it said the labels were made but it never shipped.  It's now too late to ask for a refund from Pay Pal. I've written Fred several times with zero response.  Scum is not a good word, but how hard is it to write a quick note to say we're working on your order. I'm very patient but come on...
all the best
Jonathan
Little Labs
Pro Audio Design, Manufacturing and Consulting
http://www.littlelabs.com/
vox/fax: 323.851.6860


On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Cheryl Kaupp wrote:

> 
> "scum"
> 
> That seeems rather inappropriate/rude and doesn't belong here.
> Cheryl 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
> Of MD
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 8:39 AM
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Communications
> 
> We need to find out his supplier in Japan,China or on Mars and abandon this
> scum...I guess he is not making them himself somewhere in Hillbilly
> woods...lol
> 
> On 4/18/14, vidguy vidguy <vidguy_me at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I've been in the same boat.
>> There are a few people defending Marrs.
> 
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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From rchrdpwll at gmail.com  Sat Apr 19 00:01:12 2014
From: rchrdpwll at gmail.com (Richard Powell)
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 10:01:12 +1200
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Communications
In-Reply-To: <BD75D418-BEFE-4BED-AF12-B5E1FF0EA12A@gmail.com>
References: <BLU0-SMTP58AA30DC7D125CD26887D2865D0@phx.gbl>
	<BD75D418-BEFE-4BED-AF12-B5E1FF0EA12A@gmail.com>
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Agreed, Norman.

It seems to me that 90% of the respondents to this discussion have
expectations of all business being corporate-instant-hi tech.  I welcome
the opportunity to deal with someone real.  Some of us have the luxury of
not working in the corporate world, and get to be 'be real'.  Concentrating
on family, relationships.  Putting a sign on the door that says "sorry,
I'll be back later".  They accept that some folks won't like this and will
get their noses out of joint.  They expect a little flexibility as part of
being outside of the corporate venn diagram.

These small-business owners probably don't expect meta-discussion to swarm
those mailing lists of the very folk that form part of their customer
base.  Yes,  PART; internet mailing lists and forums are not the sum total
of a small business customer base!

Put yourself in Fred's shoes; if you were reading all this NOISE you'd
probably be wondering if the small business you spend time running, is
worth it.

Please, desist.

Can we get back to swapping helpful information on how to get our naks
going?

Richard


On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Norman van Wijnen
<n.van.wijnen at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> If Fred has personal problems it is fair and normal  to give him some
> credits !
> Maybe it is better to stop this discussion.
>
> Norman
>
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>
> > Op 18 apr. 2014 om 22:11 heeft Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> het
> volgende geschreven:
> >
> >
> > "scum"
> >
> > That seeems rather inappropriate/rude and doesn't belong here.
> > Cheryl
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of MD
> > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 8:39 AM
> > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Communications
> >
> > We need to find out his supplier in Japan,China or on Mars and abandon
> this
> > scum...I guess he is not making them himself somewhere in Hillbilly
> > woods...lol
> >
> >> On 4/18/14, vidguy vidguy <vidguy_me at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> I've been in the same boat.
> >> There are a few people defending Marrs.
> >
> >
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
> >          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
> >
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
> >                        Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
> > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
> >
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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From littlelabs at littlelabs.com  Sat Apr 19 00:05:42 2014
From: littlelabs at littlelabs.com (littlelabs)
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 15:05:42 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Communications
In-Reply-To: <BD75D418-BEFE-4BED-AF12-B5E1FF0EA12A@gmail.com>
References: <BLU0-SMTP58AA30DC7D125CD26887D2865D0@phx.gbl>
	<BD75D418-BEFE-4BED-AF12-B5E1FF0EA12A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E84FE555-2772-4826-82FE-A0C0A941A981@littlelabs.com>

Thanks Norman,
I guess when Fred takes our money and doesn't deliver and doesn't notify, we should just give him credit..  Hmmmm, well ok.. @~{  ... >doh<
 I myself prefer to choose my charities..
all the best
Jonathan
Little Labs
Pro Audio Design, Manufacturing and Consulting
http://www.littlelabs.com/
vox/fax: 323.851.6860


On Apr 18, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Norman van Wijnen wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> If Fred has personal problems it is fair and normal  to give him some credits !
> Maybe it is better to stop this discussion.
> 
> Norman
> 
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
> 
>> Op 18 apr. 2014 om 22:11 heeft Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> 
>> "scum"
>> 
>> That seeems rather inappropriate/rude and doesn't belong here.
>> Cheryl 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
>> Of MD
>> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 8:39 AM
>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Communications
>> 
>> We need to find out his supplier in Japan,China or on Mars and abandon this
>> scum...I guess he is not making them himself somewhere in Hillbilly
>> woods...lol
>> 
>>> On 4/18/14, vidguy vidguy <vidguy_me at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> I've been in the same boat.
>>> There are a few people defending Marrs.
>> 
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>         Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>                       Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
>> Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
> 
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
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From dieseldude1 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 19 05:27:14 2014
From: dieseldude1 at gmail.com (Samuel Crider)
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 22:27:14 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Communications
In-Reply-To: <CAEo=m-XtYshO1GPUJ9BshuhFhAbXFeyKNis7j3X0f=eEzSSsPw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU0-SMTP58AA30DC7D125CD26887D2865D0@phx.gbl>
	<BD75D418-BEFE-4BED-AF12-B5E1FF0EA12A@gmail.com>
	<CAEo=m-XtYshO1GPUJ9BshuhFhAbXFeyKNis7j3X0f=eEzSSsPw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAHO_iDA13se=OwoMbm8=A5JpN9KEXUMY+jQ3SJwZwqxUqkeLA@mail.gmail.com>

Where does Fred live? Sounds like he is in need of a few volunteers.
Anybody out there in his area with a little spare time?
On Apr 18, 2014 9:16 PM, "MD" <angel9esoteric at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok, I really dont care but its UNAPPROPRIATE TO DO BUSINESS. Have you
> seen his feedback on ebay? You would enjoy reading it. I f*cking hate
> when someone takes advantage of people. If you dont want/like/hate
> your business, just freaking close it. End of story.
>
>
> On 4/18/14, Norman van Wijnen <n.van.wijnen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > If Fred has personal problems it is fair and normal  to give him some
> > credits !
> > Maybe it is better to stop this discussion.
> >
> > Norman
> >
> > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
> >
> >> Op 18 apr. 2014 om 22:11 heeft Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> het
> >> volgende geschreven:
> >>
> >>
> >> "scum"
> >>
> >> That seeems rather inappropriate/rude and doesn't belong here.
> >> Cheryl
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On
> >> Behalf
> >> Of MD
> >> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 8:39 AM
> >> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> >> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Communications
> >>
> >> We need to find out his supplier in Japan,China or on Mars and abandon
> >> this
> >> scum...I guess he is not making them himself somewhere in Hillbilly
> >> woods...lol
> >>
> >>> On 4/18/14, vidguy vidguy <vidguy_me at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> I've been in the same boat.
> >>> There are a few people defending Marrs.
> >>
> >>
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
> >>          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
> >>
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
> >>                        Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
> >> Maintain your account here:
> http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
> >>
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
> >
> >
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
> >           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
> >
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
> >                         Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
> > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
> >
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
> >
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
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From umeshchandran.r at gmail.com  Sat Apr 19 07:26:42 2014
From: umeshchandran.r at gmail.com (Umesh R)
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 10:56:42 +0530
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Communications
In-Reply-To: <CAEo=m-XtYshO1GPUJ9BshuhFhAbXFeyKNis7j3X0f=eEzSSsPw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU0-SMTP58AA30DC7D125CD26887D2865D0@phx.gbl>
	<BD75D418-BEFE-4BED-AF12-B5E1FF0EA12A@gmail.com>
	<CAEo=m-XtYshO1GPUJ9BshuhFhAbXFeyKNis7j3X0f=eEzSSsPw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALkUgJO3Py5LB06fh0W3NV+=ik-yX5sjL7wDW=9YK_Yqw5fdwg@mail.gmail.com>

I am not an established tech. I have ordered about 3 kits from Marrs,
different orders in the past but not in the last 8 months. I am from India
and 2 of my orders came in about a month after the order, which is normal
for international post to India. Once it got delayed by about 2 weeks and I
sent him a mail. He responded immediately with an apology and sent another
set free of cost via expedited shipping. I got the second set in 5 days and
the first one he sent also came after 2 more days. I informed him about
this and intended to return one kit but he insisted that I keep both as a
token of compensation.

Mr. Fred is an honest gentleman who takes pride in what he does. We all
know about life, bad things do happen once in a while and may be he is
going through such a time now. We are all a part of this community brought
together by Nak and we all know how many decks came back to life because of
the work Fred has done. Whether all of us agree or not he is a part of this
big family. My opinion is that we should not lose faith in him and be a
little gentle with our words. I have developed products and please trust
me, if he closes his business down, it is not going to be easy for anyone
to etup a similar service and maintain it.

It is good to recall the words from Dominic Toretto (fast and furious) this
time "We don't turn our backs on family, even when they do"


On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 7:21 AM, MD <angel9esoteric at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok, I really dont care but its UNAPPROPRIATE TO DO BUSINESS. Have you
> seen his feedback on ebay? You would enjoy reading it. I f*cking hate
> when someone takes advantage of people. If you dont want/like/hate
> your business, just freaking close it. End of story.
>
>
> On 4/18/14, Norman van Wijnen <n.van.wijnen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > If Fred has personal problems it is fair and normal  to give him some
> > credits !
> > Maybe it is better to stop this discussion.
> >
> > Norman
> >
> > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
> >
> >> Op 18 apr. 2014 om 22:11 heeft Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> het
> >> volgende geschreven:
> >>
> >>
> >> "scum"
> >>
> >> That seeems rather inappropriate/rude and doesn't belong here.
> >> Cheryl
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On
> >> Behalf
> >> Of MD
> >> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 8:39 AM
> >> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> >> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Communications
> >>
> >> We need to find out his supplier in Japan,China or on Mars and abandon
> >> this
> >> scum...I guess he is not making them himself somewhere in Hillbilly
> >> woods...lol
> >>
> >>> On 4/18/14, vidguy vidguy <vidguy_me at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> I've been in the same boat.
> >>> There are a few people defending Marrs.
> >>
> >>
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
> >>          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
> >>
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
> >>                        Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
> >> Maintain your account here:
> http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
> >>
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
> >
> >
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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> >
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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> > Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
> >
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
> >
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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From vidguy_me at hotmail.com  Sat Apr 19 09:53:33 2014
From: vidguy_me at hotmail.com (vidguy vidguy)
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 07:53:33 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Communications
In-Reply-To: <A3065CA0-7B58-433E-81F5-B2DA551340FB@littlelabs.com>
References: <BLU0-SMTP58AA30DC7D125CD26887D2865D0@phx.gbl>,
	<A3065CA0-7B58-433E-81F5-B2DA551340FB@littlelabs.com>
Message-ID: <SNT149-W89AC17A9D2B419FA40A444885C0@phx.gbl>

That's how it is now.
Yet people keep defending him.

Yes, we all know how wonderful he is, his belts are great.. yadda, yadda..

Well, Marrs has had "Problems".. for more than 6 months now.
I have tried 3 times to get belts from him, I have spent good money.
I have waited, and waited and waited.

In the end, all I got was a deafening silence, and 2 sets of "incorrect" belts, 1 paypal claim and 7 weeks later.

IF ANYBODY has gotten belts from Fred, within the last 3 months, please let us know.
Oh, and specify how much business you do with him.

At one point, Fred's Website stated he was going to focus on "Service Technician Orders", first.
So, he may be sending out belt kits, but I'll bet they are only to long time, repeat customers.




Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Communications
From: littlelabs at littlelabs.com
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 14:33:22 -0700
To: naktalk at naks.com

Well, I ordered a belt for a SONY CDP XA7ES CD player back in January, received notice early March with a tracking number, I realized at the beginning of April I hadn't received anything. Checked the tracking and it said the labels were made but it never shipped.  It's now too late to ask for a refund from Pay Pal. I've written Fred several times with zero response.  Scum is not a good word, but how hard is it to write a quick note to say we're working on your order. I'm very patient but come on...

all the best
Jonathan
Little Labs
Pro Audio Design, Manufacturing and Consulting
http://www.littlelabs.com/
vox/fax: 323.851.6860




On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Cheryl Kaupp wrote:
"scum"

That seeems rather inappropriate/rude and doesn't belong here.
Cheryl 

-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of MD
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 8:39 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Communications

We need to find out his supplier in Japan,China or on Mars and abandon this
scum...I guess he is not making them himself somewhere in Hillbilly
woods...lol

On 4/18/14, vidguy vidguy <vidguy_me at hotmail.com> wrote:
I've been in the same boat.
There are a few people defending Marrs.

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From kapro at kapro.sk  Sat Apr 19 10:53:39 2014
From: kapro at kapro.sk (Ivan Karas)
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 10:53:39 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Communications
In-Reply-To: <CACShDPSV2RzZ1yfpbG2=Xd6_C+fwCf7etwtbMWvNq177EjXSAA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU0-SMTP58AA30DC7D125CD26887D2865D0@phx.gbl>	<BD75D418-BEFE-4BED-AF12-B5E1FF0EA12A@gmail.com>
	<CACShDPSV2RzZ1yfpbG2=Xd6_C+fwCf7etwtbMWvNq177EjXSAA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53523993.5010106@kapro.sk>

On 19.4.2014 0:01, Richard Powell wrote:
> Agreed, Norman.
>
> It seems to me that 90% of the respondents to this discussion have 
> expectations of all business being corporate-instant-hi tech.  I 
> welcome the opportunity to deal with someone real.  Some of us have 
> the luxury of not working in the corporate world, and get to be 'be 
> real'. Concentrating on family, relationships.  Putting a sign on the 
> door that says "sorry, I'll be back later".  They accept that some 
> folks won't like this and will get their noses out of joint.  They 
> expect a little flexibility as part of being outside of the corporate 
> venn diagram.
>
> These small-business owners probably don't expect meta-discussion to 
> swarm those mailing lists of the very folk that form part of their 
> customer base.  Yes,  PART; internet mailing lists and forums are not 
> the sum total of a small business customer base!
>
> Put yourself in Fred's shoes; if you were reading all this NOISE you'd 
> probably be wondering if the small business you spend time running, is 
> worth it.
>
> Please, desist.
>
> Can we get back to swapping helpful information on how to get our naks 
> going?
>
> Richard
>
>
Yes, Richard. You are right. Everybody has the right to control their 
destiny. Fred's service has been highly appreciated by others. That's 
why I decided to order from him at the beginning of January. I paid 
$174,35 on 4th. January. I expected longer delivery times, respected 
Fred's right not to work as a workhorse, I respected he was overflowed  
by far too much orders.
On beginning of the March I sent him a message via tapeheads as he 
didn't respond to email. Fred posted this message on tapeheads:
*Hello Ivan,
Thank you for your Purchase !
I am Very sorry about the long Delay in mailing.
Your order and several others, were misfiled in a Old eBay Folder ?
Your complete order below, will mail Tomorrow Priority.
Label # LK177227627US
Again, very sorry about the Delay.
Thanks again for your Business !
Fred M.
PLEASE REMEMBER TO USE: tapeheads at marrscom.com 
<mailto:tapeheads at marrscom.com>*

After a couple of days when there was still info: "Electronic shipping 
info received" on the USPS web I PMed Fred on tapeheads and got this 
message:
*3-18-14 LK177227627US
Hello Ivan, I will look into this today and get back with you.
I Do know it was mailed as Promised ? Fred M.

*It's been another month since than...*

*When nothing happened I contacted USPS at the beginning of April and 
got an information no parcel was picked up or received under this 
number.  I hasn't been able to get in touch with Fred since than. He 
hasn't been responding to emails, PMs.
There is no way to get in touch with Fred a agree on solution. I insist 
on my order, I'm able to wait even longer but I would need some info 
from him at least.  What shall I do? Could anybody give me a clue?
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From shantiram2000 at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 19 16:05:30 2014
From: shantiram2000 at yahoo.com (shanti ramachandran)
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 07:05:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Repair guys in LA
Message-ID: <1397916330.41620.YahooMailNeo@web164703.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I have not had any issues with Willy's servicing my decks. 

Gene, not everyone can afford ESL every time. 

Ram.

Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 15:46:04 -0400
From: Gene Ess <gene at jazzgenemusic.com>
Subject: Re: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com>
Message-ID: <20D63643-983E-4185-99D6-82C9FAF33ADB at jazzgenemusic.com>
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Someone said Willy Herman is unanimous repair tech for Naks?  Please....  I got back couple decks that wasn't even close to being at spec. His excuse being "most would have not noticed". 

If you want a Nak done right, ESL is it. 

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From perry.nak at comcast.net  Sat Apr 19 18:33:21 2014
From: perry.nak at comcast.net (Perry Esposito)
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 12:33:21 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs belts
Message-ID: <0EC3E0E6-FDEB-4FEB-A058-DF63CAAC40F6@comcast.net>


My last order from Fred was about 2 months ago for 5 belts. However, it included an issue I had in response to a few belts from a previous order that I got that were wildly out of spec. 
Fred acknowledged the problem, took back the belts, and replaced them plus one for my trouble. And I did wait about 4 weeks.
 I agree, as does Fred, that 3+ months is unacceptable and he has apologized for it and is doing the best he can.  Stuff happens and things get in the way. 
Usually the issue is he can't tell from the complaining email exactly who or what the order is about. And he tries to get to it later then later becomes still later etc etc.
 He acknowledges he lost over a hundred orders in a filed in the wrong place on his computer issue. All I say is rather than attack, please keep trying to work with the man. 
He knows he's got problems to fix but each problem is more time consuming than new simple orders. 
Also maybe not in this case, but twice in the last year, out if about 10 Priority click and ship USPS fixed rate packages 
that I personally dropped off at the post office, they never showed up on tracking 
and one never ever made it so I ate the sale and the item. The other showed up 3 months later,  never tracked once. 
So may also be our crappy USPS. 


From wheijke at xs4all.nl  Sat Apr 19 21:21:11 2014
From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke)
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 21:21:11 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Marrs
Message-ID: <3949e4367fc45c03d9795234d77aa20a.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>

I think everything has been said.
It's now up to Fred himself.

Wouter



From cartrite at optusnet.com.au  Sun Apr 20 07:55:23 2014
From: cartrite at optusnet.com.au (Cartrite)
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 15:55:23 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] 680ZX
Message-ID: <B2EB8FE96CC44D16818B6913A64467F5@InternetPC>

Hi Guys....after success with the 670(many Thanks) i have started on the 680ZX,same scenario,in storeage for 20+ years but was supposed to be working when stored.Fast FWD & Reverse worked but not play.I fitted a new belt kit but Play still does not work,FFD,reverse & counter working,mechanism trys to lift and a light buzzing sound emits,tape does not turn,have i missed a belt somewhere or is it more serious?Any help will be greatly appreciated. Baz..

Also many,many Thanks to Benny for Rack Ears..great stuff. 
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From mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk  Sun Apr 20 08:48:42 2014
From: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk (Mercedes Benz)
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 07:48:42 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts
Message-ID: <SNT405-EAS3992E2F8210338EE5253FD1B65F0@phx.gbl>

That suggests a hit and miss sort of  reliability. Well, unless Fred can improve his service and since there is no other reliable alternative available, I am gonna have to live with the faulty belt I guess.

-Nadeem

Sent from my killer Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Alex Karpov
Sent: 18/04/2014 20:42
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts

I had same problem with Tascam 32 when got belt from Revox_de.
I can' t tell you about CD1. For Akai ant Teac cassette decks belts work just fine. BX- 300 also ok. For RX-505 belt was narrow and W&F too high. My friend ordered for Aiwa and W&F was out of specification.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 18, 2014, at 12:55 AM, Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Alex, if what you say is true then the belts should not measure well. But in all of his listings the guy makes a point that the belts just have to be of the correct size. He even refers to Fred but that's just business rivalry.
>
> I actually needed a belt for my Cassette Deck 1 and bought it from Revox_de in Germany but after installing it the sound of the deck changed significantly so when checked I could actually see the belt wobble over the flywheel at regular intervals so I need a good belt for my deck and it seems like I'll just have to order from Fred and hope it arrives soon.
>
> Thanks everyone for your input.
>
> -Nadeem
>
> Sent from my killer Windows Phone
> From: Alex Karpov
> Sent: 17/04/2014 22:35
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts
>
> His belts not same size as original. For example: original - 4.5 mm wide, his belt - 3.5 mm wide. They are good for some decks, for some - not.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 17, 2014, at 10:21 AM, daniel.botelho at gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I've used his belts for my teac decks and this kit for a bx300. They are decent, and work well.
>>
>> Shipping is fast as well. :) turnaround is usually under 2 weeks to canada.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Mercedes Benz
>> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 12:49 PM
>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>> Reply To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>> Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Has anyone bought and measured belts from this guy and how good are they?
>>
>> http://m.ebay.com/itm/111041608193?nav=SEARCH
>>
>> Any feedback will be appreciated.
>>
>> Regards
>> Nadeem
>>
>> Sent from my killer Windows Phone
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From bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk  Sun Apr 20 12:26:08 2014
From: bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk (Ben Stratford)
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 11:26:08 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] 680ZX
In-Reply-To: <B2EB8FE96CC44D16818B6913A64467F5@InternetPC>
References: <B2EB8FE96CC44D16818B6913A64467F5@InternetPC>
Message-ID: <DUB405-EAS190212475C4408367D13A7C905F0@phx.gbl>

If the mechanism does not engage then its normally the cam control belt. If thats been replaced, did you ensure control fork straddled the gear tab when reassembling the transport? If you turn the cam control gear by hand to engage the transport, does it fully raise into position?  If it does, do the pivot arms move freely allowing the rollers to contact the capstans?  Did you replace the idler tyre? Is the auto shutoff lamp working?

> On 20 Apr 2014, at 10:07, "Cartrite" <cartrite at optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Hi Guys....after success with the 670(many Thanks) i have started on the 680ZX,same scenario,in storeage for 20+ years but was supposed to be working when stored.Fast FWD & Reverse worked but not play.I fitted a new belt kit but Play still does not work,FFD,reverse & counter working,mechanism trys to lift and a light buzzing sound emits,tape does not turn,have i missed a belt somewhere or is it more serious?Any help will be greatly appreciated. Baz..
>  
> Also many,many Thanks to Benny for Rack Ears..great stuff.
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From gerhard.wartha at gmail.com  Sun Apr 20 12:36:32 2014
From: gerhard.wartha at gmail.com (Gerhard Wartha)
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 12:36:32 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts
In-Reply-To: <SNT405-EAS3992E2F8210338EE5253FD1B65F0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT405-EAS3992E2F8210338EE5253FD1B65F0@phx.gbl>
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I can send you a new  belt.

Just tell me what belt  you need.

It takes one week to order belts in Vienna.

regards

Gerhard
Am 20.04.2014 um 08:48 schrieb Mercedes Benz:

> That suggests a hit and miss sort of  reliability. Well, unless  
> Fred can improve his service and since there is no other reliable  
> alternative available, I am gonna have to live with the faulty belt  
> I guess.
>
> -Nadeem
>
> Sent from my killer Windows Phone
> From: Alex Karpov
> Sent: 18/04/2014 20:42
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts
>
> I had same problem with Tascam 32 when got belt from Revox_de.
> I can' t tell you about CD1. For Akai ant Teac cassette decks belts  
> work just fine. BX- 300 also ok. For RX-505 belt was narrow and W&F  
> too high. My friend ordered for Aiwa and W&F was out of specification.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 18, 2014, at 12:55 AM, Mercedes Benz  
> <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Alex, if what you say is true then the belts should not measure  
>> well. But in all of his listings the guy makes a point that the  
>> belts just have to be of the correct size. He even refers to Fred  
>> but that's just business rivalry.
>>
>> I actually needed a belt for my Cassette Deck 1 and bought it from  
>> Revox_de in Germany but after installing it the sound of the deck  
>> changed significantly so when checked I could actually see the  
>> belt wobble over the flywheel at regular intervals so I need a  
>> good belt for my deck and it seems like I'll just have to order  
>> from Fred and hope it arrives soon.
>>
>> Thanks everyone for your input.
>>
>> -Nadeem
>>
>> Sent from my killer Windows Phone
>> From: Alex Karpov
>> Sent: 17/04/2014 22:35
>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts
>>
>> His belts not same size as original. For example: original - 4.5  
>> mm wide, his belt - 3.5 mm wide. They are good for some decks, for  
>> some - not.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 10:21 AM, daniel.botelho at gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I've used his belts for my teac decks and this kit for a bx300.  
>>> They are decent, and work well.
>>>
>>> Shipping is fast as well. :) turnaround is usually under 2 weeks  
>>> to canada.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Mercedes Benz
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 12:49 PM
>>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>>> Reply To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>>> Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Has anyone bought and measured belts from this guy and how good  
>>> are they?
>>>
>>> http://m.ebay.com/itm/111041608193?nav=SEARCH
>>>
>>> Any feedback will be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Nadeem
>>>
>>> Sent from my killer Windows Phone
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 20 16:16:25 2014
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 07:16:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts
In-Reply-To: <SNT405-EAS3992E2F8210338EE5253FD1B65F0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT405-EAS3992E2F8210338EE5253FD1B65F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1398003385.15951.YahooMailNeo@web160206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

I'm sitting on the sidelines here, reading the multitude of posts on The Marrs Saga
and can clearly hear a bell ringing... Isn't this the exact same scenario we went 
through some time ago with Stephen Sank? Steve was an excellent tech that 
used to go out of his way to help hobbyists with their beloved Naks, often with 
no remuneration for his time and trouble. Fred was the same -- he used to 
provide excellent service and high quality merchandise (at last, in my personal 
experience).

It seems both gentlemen fell on hard times and wound up screwing customers, 
in the process destroying their own reputations. I suspect Fred won't come out 
of his situation any better than Steve did. 

I am sorry for customers that paid and never received their order -- I know 
exactly how this feels -- but isn't it time to forget (and maybe even forgive)? 
Lets just move on.

-- Ron
 


On Sunday, April 20, 2014 5:26 AM, Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
 
That suggests a hit and miss sort of  reliability. Well, unless Fred can improve his service and since there is no other reliable alternative available, I am gonna have to live with the faulty belt I guess.
>
>-Nadeem
>
>Sent from my killer Windows Phone
>
>________________________________
> From: Alex Karpov
>Sent: 18/04/2014 20:42
>To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts
>
>
>I had same problem with Tascam 32 when got belt from Revox_de. 
>I can' t tell you about CD1. For Akai ant Teac cassette decks belts work just fine. BX- 300 also ok. For RX-505 belt was narrow and W&F too high. My friend ordered for Aiwa and W&F was out of specification.   
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Apr 18, 2014, at 12:55 AM, Mercedes Benz <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>Alex, if what you say is true then the belts should not measure well. But in all of his listings the guy makes a point that the belts just have to be of the correct size. He even refers to Fred but that's just business rivalry.
>>
>>I actually needed a belt for my Cassette Deck 1 and bought it from Revox_de in Germany but after installing it the sound of the deck changed significantly so when checked I could actually see the belt wobble over the flywheel at regular intervals so I need
 a good belt for my deck and it seems like I'll just have to order from Fred and hope it arrives soon.
>>
>>Thanks everyone for your input.
>>
>>-Nadeem
>>
>>Sent from my killer Windows Phone
>>
>>________________________________
>> From: Alex Karpov
>>Sent: 17/04/2014 22:35
>>To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>>Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts
>>
>>
>>His belts not same size as original. For example: original - 4.5 mm wide, his belt - 3.5 mm wide. They are good for some decks, for some - not.
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>On Apr 17, 2014, at 10:21 AM, daniel.botelho at gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>I've used his belts for my teac decks and this kit for a bx300. They are decent, and work well. 
>>>
>>>
>>>Shipping is fast as well. :) turnaround is usually under 2 weeks to canada.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>From: Mercedes Benz
>>>Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 12:49 PM
>>>To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>>>Reply To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>>>Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts 
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>Has anyone bought and measured belts from this guy and how good are they? 
>>>
>>>http://m.ebay.com/itm/111041608193?nav=SEARCH
>>>
>>>Any feedback will be appreciated.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>Nadeem
>>>
>>>Sent from my killer Windows Phone
>>>
>>>
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From daniel.botelho at gmail.com  Sun Apr 20 19:30:32 2014
From: daniel.botelho at gmail.com (daniel.botelho at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 13:30:32 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts
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From mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk  Sun Apr 20 23:10:21 2014
From: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk (Mercedes Benz)
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 22:10:21 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts
Message-ID: <SNT404-EAS1875F6589E34D23258B33D1B65F0@phx.gbl>

Hi Gerhard,

Thanks for the offer. I need a capstan belt for my cassette deck 1 but if you don't mind me asking can you please tell me where you source them from?

Regards
Nadeem

Sent from my killer Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Gerhard Wartha
Sent: 20/04/2014 21:58
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts

I can send you a new  belt.

Just tell me what belt  you need.

It takes one week to order belts in Vienna.

regards

Gerhard
Am 20.04.2014 um 08:48 schrieb Mercedes Benz:

> That suggests a hit and miss sort of  reliability. Well, unless
> Fred can improve his service and since there is no other reliable
> alternative available, I am gonna have to live with the faulty belt
> I guess.
>
> -Nadeem
>
> Sent from my killer Windows Phone
> From: Alex Karpov
> Sent: 18/04/2014 20:42
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts
>
> I had same problem with Tascam 32 when got belt from Revox_de.
> I can' t tell you about CD1. For Akai ant Teac cassette decks belts
> work just fine. BX- 300 also ok. For RX-505 belt was narrow and W&F
> too high. My friend ordered for Aiwa and W&F was out of specification.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 18, 2014, at 12:55 AM, Mercedes Benz
> <mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Alex, if what you say is true then the belts should not measure
>> well. But in all of his listings the guy makes a point that the
>> belts just have to be of the correct size. He even refers to Fred
>> but that's just business rivalry.
>>
>> I actually needed a belt for my Cassette Deck 1 and bought it from
>> Revox_de in Germany but after installing it the sound of the deck
>> changed significantly so when checked I could actually see the
>> belt wobble over the flywheel at regular intervals so I need a
>> good belt for my deck and it seems like I'll just have to order
>> from Fred and hope it arrives soon.
>>
>> Thanks everyone for your input.
>>
>> -Nadeem
>>
>> Sent from my killer Windows Phone
>> From: Alex Karpov
>> Sent: 17/04/2014 22:35
>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts
>>
>> His belts not same size as original. For example: original - 4.5
>> mm wide, his belt - 3.5 mm wide. They are good for some decks, for
>> some - not.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 10:21 AM, daniel.botelho at gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I've used his belts for my teac decks and this kit for a bx300.
>>> They are decent, and work well.
>>>
>>> Shipping is fast as well. :) turnaround is usually under 2 weeks
>>> to canada.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Mercedes Benz
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 12:49 PM
>>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>>> Reply To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>>> Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi belts
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Has anyone bought and measured belts from this guy and how good
>>> are they?
>>>
>>> http://m.ebay.com/itm/111041608193?nav=SEARCH
>>>
>>> Any feedback will be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Nadeem
>>>
>>> Sent from my killer Windows Phone
>>>
>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------
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From cartrite at optusnet.com.au  Mon Apr 21 01:41:31 2014
From: cartrite at optusnet.com.au (Cartrite)
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 09:41:31 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] 680ZX
In-Reply-To: <DUB405-EAS190212475C4408367D13A7C905F0@phx.gbl>
References: <B2EB8FE96CC44D16818B6913A64467F5@InternetPC>
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Thanks for taking the time to reply Ben,i’ll have another go next W/end,No,didn’t do idler tyre.regards Baz.

rom: Ben Stratford 
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:26 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
Subject: Re: [naktalk] 680ZX

If the mechanism does not engage then its normally the cam control belt. If thats been replaced, did you ensure control fork straddled the gear tab when reassembling the transport? If you turn the cam control gear by hand to engage the transport, does it fully raise into position?  If it does, do the pivot arms move freely allowing the rollers to contact the capstans?  Did you replace the idler tyre? Is the auto shutoff lamp working?

On 20 Apr 2014, at 10:07, "Cartrite" <cartrite at optusnet.com.au> wrote:


  Hi Guys....after success with the 670(many Thanks) i have started on the 680ZX,same scenario,in storeage for 20+ years but was supposed to be working when stored.Fast FWD & Reverse worked but not play.I fitted a new belt kit but Play still does not work,FFD,reverse & counter working,mechanism trys to lift and a light buzzing sound emits,tape does not turn,have i missed a belt somewhere or is it more serious?Any help will be greatly appreciated. Baz..

  Also many,many Thanks to Benny for Rack Ears..great stuff. 
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From earthrite at gn.apc.org  Mon Apr 21 11:33:08 2014
From: earthrite at gn.apc.org (earthrite)
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 10:33:08 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] tri tracer
In-Reply-To: <201404211001.s3LA05kq008540@zxe.naks.com>
References: <201404211001.s3LA05kq008540@zxe.naks.com>
Message-ID: <0A8208C6-3A78-4EFF-93BD-10EFF3BCA2E6@gn.apc.org>

hello brothers and sister!

i know of a chap hoping to get a tritracer 700 from uk ebay going
any pointers to expertise or spares most welcome

im suggesting he join us but dont know what if any UK resources are worth trying if cannibalising is needed

back to the belt wars groan
poor Bill. 

im still here with my 481 z, 68 and 300

the 68 came back from b&w service 2 months with transit dislodged vu meters but its 120£ to send it there and back and i hardly think its b&w's call

is it a mere clik to reseat it? or more problematic

also the 300 rewind is giving up....without any internal dismantling is there a short term fix till the money for another service arises?

best

ian
scotland





From charles at njau.se  Tue Apr 22 18:22:55 2014
From: charles at njau.se (Charles A Njau)
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:22:55 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Vinyl gets its groove back: Record Store Day celebrates
	the return of indie disc retailers - NY Daily News
Message-ID: <625A2669-AA8F-4B96-AAC1-A8667BB5F74E@njau.se>


http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/record-store-day-celebrates- 
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From ddlbtl at gmail.com  Wed Apr 23 04:38:35 2014
From: ddlbtl at gmail.com (David Lash)
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 21:38:35 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] capstan motors
Message-ID: <CAFy0wgcbKSde_NwtpUWpQBhjT1v2PLWOZC3Y2feP+VbhP3gwPA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Everyone, I am in need of the drive motor for a DR-1. SHE2L56-5712A are
the numbers on the motor label. I have no motors that I can replace this
with, if anyone knows were I can find one or a parts deck. Any help will be
greatly appreciated.
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From ddlbtl at gmail.com  Wed Apr 23 05:15:09 2014
From: ddlbtl at gmail.com (David Lash)
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 22:15:09 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Re: capstan motors
In-Reply-To: <CAFy0wgcbKSde_NwtpUWpQBhjT1v2PLWOZC3Y2feP+VbhP3gwPA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy0wgcbKSde_NwtpUWpQBhjT1v2PLWOZC3Y2feP+VbhP3gwPA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFy0wgeiomtM4pO48psnojMnbOyWHjYL4OQrNSwf-2gsDMZ0RA@mail.gmail.com>

the service manual for the DR-2 lists this part number CA81988A. Not sure
if these decks used the same motor, have not found a service manual for the
DR-1. David


On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 9:38 PM, David Lash <ddlbtl at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Everyone, I am in need of the drive motor for a DR-1. SHE2L56-5712A are
> the numbers on the motor label. I have no motors that I can replace this
> with, if anyone knows were I can find one or a parts deck. Any help will be
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From ebetom at web.de  Wed Apr 23 10:54:55 2014
From: ebetom at web.de (ebetom)
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 10:54:55 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] capstan motors
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From daniel.botelho at gmail.com  Wed Apr 23 13:49:01 2014
From: daniel.botelho at gmail.com (daniel.botelho at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 07:49:01 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] capstan motors
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From perry.nak at comcast.net  Thu Apr 24 13:32:04 2014
From: perry.nak at comcast.net (Perry Esposito)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 07:32:04 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Does anyone else get this error ?
Message-ID: <DDD0DF0C-0BA4-4817-9F42-83ED5859227A@comcast.net>


On a bunch of Naktalk posts it just says "an HTML attachment has been scrubbed" and there is no content? This has been going on for years, what does it mean?



From charles at njau.se  Fri Apr 25 17:55:55 2014
From: charles at njau.se (Charles A Njau)
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 17:55:55 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] BBC News - Record Store Day boosts vinyl sales
Message-ID: <F59B648E-88D3-41C3-9B86-8930D1027F0E@njau.se>


http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-27159534

Record Store Day boosts vinyl sales

25 April 2014 Last updated at 15:00 GMT
Live at Monterey by the Jimi Hendrix Experience was among the top-selling vinyl LPs in both the US and UK
This year's Record Store Day, on 19 April, saw a surge in vinyl sales, with an increase of 133% on the previous week, industry figures reveal.

Led by a reissue of The Stone Roses' debut album, vinyl sales grew by more than 62% compared to 2013, with 12-inch single sales growing by 15.4% alone.

However, 7-inch vinyl sales fell by 28%, partly because fewer records were released in the format.

The figures are in keeping with the US, where week-on-week sales grew by 91%.

Nielsen Entertainment called it "the most successful Record Store Day ever for vinyl", with LP sales up 58% over the same week last year.

Record Store Day was created in the US in 2007. Now in its seventh year, it champions independently-owned record stores in the UK and US, and celebrates vinyl recordings.

In the UK, the Stone Roses' eponymous album was the biggest-selling vinyl album of the week, in a chart populated with classic bands such as the Jimi Hendrix Experience and the Ramones - both of whom also featured in the US chart.

"The vinyl format, whilst still popular with baby-boomers that grew up with it and nurtured in recent years by events such as Record Store Day, increasingly also appeals to an engaged audience of younger artists and consumers alike, who appreciate its iconic heritage as part of Rock and Pop culture," said Gennaro Castaldo, spokesman for the British Phonographic Industry (BPI).

"LP sales doubled in volume last year to 780,000 units - the highest annual total in over 15 years, and with sales up again this year, we're close to seeing the greatest demand for vinyl recordings in nearly two decades."


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From mibm at tdcadsl.dk  Fri Apr 25 19:24:52 2014
From: mibm at tdcadsl.dk (Mikkel Benedikt Breiler Mikkelsen)
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 19:24:52 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Does anyone else get this error ?
References: <DDD0DF0C-0BA4-4817-9F42-83ED5859227A@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <EE.C5.00453.36A9A535@fep45>

Hi

Someone posted a message in plain text and with a copy in HTML and the mailing list software removed the unnessecary part.

There is absolutely no reason to use HTML for posting messages. HTML takes up a lot more space on the server over plain text, and when transmitting it takes longer to exchange with another mail server. HTML is not the only thing that gets stripped or scrubbed, any added images for background are also taken away. Some servers take away anything other than plain text, so out goes the VCF info file and any formatting done at the sender or any attachments a poster would want others to have.
There are times when attaching something is good, but it is rare and in the case of mailing lists there is usually a file repository which can be used to place the files so not everyone gets the attachment, but only those who want it can go and get it.
What gets removed when posting to  such servers depends on how a poster set up his mailing software. Some have defaults that are really annoying, but the poster may be unaware of how it works and as long as they are not bothered by it themselves they will keep everything the way it is.
 
Personally, I like to think most people would not needlessly post unnessecary stuff, but some people may not be able to change the way their software works. Either because they cannot be bothered or will not simply Google how to.

-Mikkel

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From psycho at rayhogan.net  Fri Apr 25 21:47:57 2014
From: psycho at rayhogan.net (Hogan Ray)
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 05:17:57 +0930
Subject: [naktalk] Switches for ZX 7
Message-ID: <3841897B-1EB5-4B2D-AA5D-E6F86FBEDB5D@rayhogan.net>

Due to poor packing on my part, the MPX Filter and Monitor Switches on my ZX-7 were damaged during my relocation.

I removed the faceplate to check if I could recover all the broken pieces to no avail. The one piece I found may be able to be glued back, but ...

Does anyone have spares and information on how to refit the small horseshoe shaped washer and square plastic piece that came out when I removed the faceplate?

Alternatively, is there a way to fit the broken  switches, which still slip onto the spindles, but may not function effectively and be subject to further damage?

Any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks.


Ray Hogan




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Truth is not beauty.
Beauty  is not love.
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 26 18:52:40 2014
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 09:52:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [naktalk] capstan motors
In-Reply-To: <trinity-920d652e-07f2-4545-950a-d85bf6c9ddeb-1398243295050@msvc023>
References: <trinity-920d652e-07f2-4545-950a-d85bf6c9ddeb-1398243295050@msvc023>
Message-ID: <1398531160.59131.YahooMailNeo@web160203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

> Hi, i think the problem with These newer decks is the fact that the Motor is running all the Time...

This is not a problem, but a design choice. All Nak decks that used DD (Direct Drive) Sankyo 

transports (BX-100, CR-5 and CR7, etc.) were designed to have the capstan motor run 

continuously. This assures the motor is always stable at operating temperature and ready to 
run at accurate speed at any time. 


Of course, the down side is the increased wear when the deck is left powered for long periods.

(the obvious solution is to turn it off when not in  actual use). So, it's a trade off issue. Nak 
engineers chose to run the capstan motors continuously only on higher end decks.

-- Ron


On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 5:25 AM, ebetom <ebetom at web.de> wrote:
 
Hi, i think the problem with These newer decks is the fact that the Motor is running all the Time as soon it is switched on, even with no funktion. Also These newer motors are crap
>I just took the motor of a bx100 , fits well, works well ,maybe Worth a try 
>Thomas
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>Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit WEB.DE Mail gesendet.
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>David Lash <ddlbtl at gmail.com> schrieb:
>Hi Everyone, I am in need of the drive motor for a DR-1. SHE2L56-5712A are the numbers on the motor label. I have no motors that I can replace this with, if anyone knows were I can find one or a parts deck. Any help will be greatly appreciated. 
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From n.van.wijnen at gmail.com  Sun Apr 27 11:49:06 2014
From: n.van.wijnen at gmail.com (Norman van Wijnen)
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 11:49:06 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi gauges
Message-ID: <BF187491-044D-4918-B4E0-C1E47EEAD483@gmail.com>

Hi all,

I wonder if there are some Nakamichi gauges for sale in our naktalk forum.
If someone has a double gauge maybe we can make a deal.
Contact about this of the list, n.van.wijnen at gmail.com
Best regards,

Norman

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From chopkins at cableone.net  Mon Apr 28 01:29:36 2014
From: chopkins at cableone.net (Chris Hopkins)
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 18:29:36 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Re: repair guys in LA (Gene Ess)
Message-ID: <720DED44F5B542AB96038B54DEA398A1@ChrisPC>

To the person who made the critical comment about Willy Herman and the assertion that ESL is the place to go if you want it done right, I offer the following experience and observation.  Experience: in the last five (5) years, I have had two (2) ZX-7’s and three (3) Dragons rehab’d by Willy Herman.  He did nice work on all of them.  If a problem arose after the initial work, he fixed it.  Free.  Even if it was a over a year later.  Observation: ESL (Electronics Service Lab in CT) has an excellent reputation, and ESL’s Erik Larsen has a great reputation.  That said, ESL’s web site is very clear: this is a “better than new restoration, and priced accordingly”.  If I were handing down a high end NAK to an adult child who would use it, but might not be willing to fix anything that went wrong, I’d be more likely to consider ESL.  My owns NAKS?  My 3 Dragons are purring away in the equipment room as I write this, and they are used at least weekly.  Bottom line is paying more may result in better work, at least it should, but my philosophy in audio is sound that is “good enough” and, in what he does, Willy is more than “good enough”.
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From n.van.wijnen at gmail.com  Mon Apr 28 09:06:52 2014
From: n.van.wijnen at gmail.com (Norman van Wijnen)
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 09:06:52 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Re: repair guys in LA (Gene Ess)
In-Reply-To: <720DED44F5B542AB96038B54DEA398A1@ChrisPC>
References: <720DED44F5B542AB96038B54DEA398A1@ChrisPC>
Message-ID: <8723C777-6892-48AA-ACEA-7C2EF5F33241@gmail.com>

Agree Chris,
Willy has a great knowledge and experience repairing Nakamichi.
It's great to have such a guy on our Naktalk.

Norman

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> Op 28 apr. 2014 om 01:29 heeft "Chris Hopkins" <chopkins at cableone.net> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> To the person who made the critical comment about Willy Herman and the assertion that ESL is the place to go if you want it done right, I offer the following experience and observation.  Experience: in the last five (5) years, I have had two (2) ZX-7’s and three (3) Dragons rehab’d by Willy Herman.  He did nice work on all of them.  If a problem arose after the initial work, he fixed it.  Free.  Even if it was a over a year later.  Observation: ESL (Electronics Service Lab in CT) has an excellent reputation, and ESL’s Erik Larsen has a great reputation.  That said, ESL’s web site is very clear: this is a “better than new restoration, and priced accordingly”.  If I were handing down a high end NAK to an adult child who would use it, but might not be willing to fix anything that went wrong, I’d be more likely to consider ESL.  My owns NAKS?  My 3 Dragons are purring away in the equipment room as I write this, and they are used at least weekly.  Bottom line is paying more may result in better work, at least it should, but my philosophy in audio is sound that is “good enough” and, in what he does, Willy is more than “good enough”.
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From mcole01 at comcast.net  Mon Apr 28 15:07:26 2014
From: mcole01 at comcast.net (Michael Cole)
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 09:07:26 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Re: repair guys in LA (Gene Ess)
In-Reply-To: <8723C777-6892-48AA-ACEA-7C2EF5F33241@gmail.com>
References: <720DED44F5B542AB96038B54DEA398A1@ChrisPC>
	<8723C777-6892-48AA-ACEA-7C2EF5F33241@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9A61CB3C21374EC193C998581066D7C0@MikePC>

All,

I rarely comment on the postings to the list but felt it was necessary to do so regarding the comment about Willy Hermann’s expertise.  Over the years Willy has serviced/repaired Dragons, CR-7As, ZX-9s, 700ZXls and  few other Naks that I’ve owned.  In every case the deck has returned well packed and has performed perfectly.

Michael Cole


From: Norman van Wijnen 
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 3:06 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: repair guys in LA (Gene Ess)
Agree Chris,
Willy has a great knowledge and experience repairing Nakamichi.
It's great to have such a guy on our Naktalk.

Norman

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Op 28 apr. 2014 om 01:29 heeft "Chris Hopkins" <chopkins at cableone.net> het volgende geschreven:


  To the person who made the critical comment about Willy Herman and the assertion that ESL is the place to go if you want it done right, I offer the following experience and observation.  Experience: in the last five (5) years, I have had two (2) ZX-7’s and three (3) Dragons rehab’d by Willy Herman.  He did nice work on all of them.  If a problem arose after the initial work, he fixed it.  Free.  Even if it was a over a year later.  Observation: ESL (Electronics Service Lab in CT) has an excellent reputation, and ESL’s Erik Larsen has a great reputation.  That said, ESL’s web site is very clear: this is a “better than new restoration, and priced accordingly”.  If I were handing down a high end NAK to an adult child who would use it, but might not be willing to fix anything that went wrong, I’d be more likely to consider ESL.  My owns NAKS?  My 3 Dragons are purring away in the equipment room as I write this, and they are used at least weekly.  Bottom line is paying more may result in better work, at least it should, but my philosophy in audio is sound that is “good enough” and, in what he does, Willy is more than “good enough”.
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From icmllc at gmail.com  Mon Apr 28 15:23:12 2014
From: icmllc at gmail.com (Ashvin)
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 08:23:12 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Re: repair guys in LA (Gene Ess)
In-Reply-To: <8723C777-6892-48AA-ACEA-7C2EF5F33241@gmail.com>
References: <720DED44F5B542AB96038B54DEA398A1@ChrisPC>
	<8723C777-6892-48AA-ACEA-7C2EF5F33241@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <870C689A-C3F2-47FE-8B78-8CC6B9261DF5@gmail.com>

Hey Chris and Norman, How much did Willy pay you for that letter ???

:-)

Dr Ashvin Srivastava
CEO, PIM Group, LLC
(972) 467-7506

> On Apr 28, 2014, at 2:06 AM, Norman van Wijnen <n.van.wijnen at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Agree Chris,
> Willy has a great knowledge and experience repairing Nakamichi.
> It's great to have such a guy on our Naktalk.
> 
> Norman
> 
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
> 
>> Op 28 apr. 2014 om 01:29 heeft "Chris Hopkins" <chopkins at cableone.net> het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> To the person who made the critical comment about Willy Herman and the assertion that ESL is the place to go if you want it done right, I offer the following experience and observation.  Experience: in the last five (5) years, I have had two (2) ZX-7’s and three (3) Dragons rehab’d by Willy Herman.  He did nice work on all of them.  If a problem arose after the initial work, he fixed it.  Free.  Even if it was a over a year later.  Observation: ESL (Electronics Service Lab in CT) has an excellent reputation, and ESL’s Erik Larsen has a great reputation.  That said, ESL’s web site is very clear: this is a “better than new restoration, and priced accordingly”.  If I were handing down a high end NAK to an adult child who would use it, but might not be willing to fix anything that went wrong, I’d be more likely to consider ESL.  My owns NAKS?  My 3 Dragons are purring away in the equipment room as I write this, and they are used at least weekly.  Bottom line is paying more may result in better work, at least it should, but my philosophy in audio is sound that is “good enough” and, in what he does, Willy is more than “good enough”.
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From icmllc at gmail.com  Mon Apr 28 16:04:12 2014
From: icmllc at gmail.com (Ashvin)
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 09:04:12 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Re: repair guys in LA (Gene Ess)
In-Reply-To: <9A61CB3C21374EC193C998581066D7C0@MikePC>
References: <720DED44F5B542AB96038B54DEA398A1@ChrisPC>
	<8723C777-6892-48AA-ACEA-7C2EF5F33241@gmail.com>
	<9A61CB3C21374EC193C998581066D7C0@MikePC>
Message-ID: <AF489757-08F8-47E9-9AFA-9678D4F106FB@gmail.com>

I was joking
I had a great experience with Willy on my ZX-9 Service and some good conversations too.
Ash

Dr Ashvin Srivastava
CEO, PIM Group, LLC
(972) 467-7506

> On Apr 28, 2014, at 8:07 AM, "Michael Cole" <mcole01 at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> All,
>  
> I rarely comment on the postings to the list but felt it was necessary to do so regarding the comment about Willy Hermann’s expertise.  Over the years Willy has serviced/repaired Dragons, CR-7As, ZX-9s, 700ZXls and  few other Naks that I’ve owned.  In every case the deck has returned well packed and has performed perfectly.
>  
> Michael Cole
>  
>  
> From: Norman van Wijnen
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 3:06 AM
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: repair guys in LA (Gene Ess)
> Agree Chris,
> Willy has a great knowledge and experience repairing Nakamichi.
> It's great to have such a guy on our Naktalk.
>  
> Norman
> 
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
> 
>> Op 28 apr. 2014 om 01:29 heeft "Chris Hopkins" <chopkins at cableone.net> het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> To the person who made the critical comment about Willy Herman and the assertion that ESL is the place to go if you want it done right, I offer the following experience and observation.  Experience: in the last five (5) years, I have had two (2) ZX-7’s and three (3) Dragons rehab’d by Willy Herman.  He did nice work on all of them.  If a problem arose after the initial work, he fixed it.  Free.  Even if it was a over a year later.  Observation: ESL (Electronics Service Lab in CT) has an excellent reputation, and ESL’s Erik Larsen has a great reputation.  That said, ESL’s web site is very clear: this is a “better than new restoration, and priced accordingly”.  If I were handing down a high end NAK to an adult child who would use it, but might not be willing to fix anything that went wrong, I’d be more likely to consider ESL.  My owns NAKS?  My 3 Dragons are purring away in the equipment room as I write this, and they are used at least weekly.  Bottom line is paying more may result in better work, at least it should, but my philosophy in audio is sound that is “good enough” and, in what he does, Willy is more than “good enough”.
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>                        Naktalk at naks.com mailinglist
>> Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
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> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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> Maintain your account here: http://www.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
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From rkrause at multiplan.com.br  Mon Apr 28 17:14:13 2014
From: rkrause at multiplan.com.br (Rodrigo Krause)
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 15:14:13 +0000
Subject: RES: [naktalk] Re: repair guys in LA (Gene Ess)
In-Reply-To: <870C689A-C3F2-47FE-8B78-8CC6B9261DF5@gmail.com>
References: <720DED44F5B542AB96038B54DEA398A1@ChrisPC>
	<8723C777-6892-48AA-ACEA-7C2EF5F33241@gmail.com>
	<870C689A-C3F2-47FE-8B78-8CC6B9261DF5@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2DA1DAF07B14404E8CBE5DA5683381FB1882EF@STVTEX05>

Guys, please: let´s drop this meaningless discussion about the competences of techs that actually DO help us out with our decks. If this discussion would lead us to some positive outcome, fine; but all we are doing is messing with people´s reputation in an irresponsible way. Let´s stick to what this is all about: our love and care for our Nakamichi equipment.
A nice week to all!


Rodrigo Krause

De: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] Em nome de Ashvin
Enviada em: segunda-feira, 28 de abril de 2014 10:23
Para: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Assunto: Re: [naktalk] Re: repair guys in LA (Gene Ess)

Hey Chris and Norman, How much did Willy pay you for that letter ???

:-)

Dr Ashvin Srivastava
CEO, PIM Group, LLC
(972) 467-7506

On Apr 28, 2014, at 2:06 AM, Norman van Wijnen <n.van.wijnen at gmail.com<mailto:n.van.wijnen at gmail.com>> wrote:
Agree Chris,
Willy has a great knowledge and experience repairing Nakamichi.
It's great to have such a guy on our Naktalk.

Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

Op 28 apr. 2014 om 01:29 heeft "Chris Hopkins" <chopkins at cableone.net<mailto:chopkins at cableone.net>> het volgende geschreven:
To the person who made the critical comment about Willy Herman and the assertion that ESL is the place to go if you want it done right, I offer the following experience and observation.  Experience: in the last five (5) years, I have had two (2) ZX-7’s and three (3) Dragons rehab’d by Willy Herman.  He did nice work on all of them.  If a problem arose after the initial work, he fixed it.  Free.  Even if it was a over a year later.  Observation: ESL (Electronics Service Lab in CT) has an excellent reputation, and ESL’s Erik Larsen has a great reputation.  That said, ESL’s web site is very clear: this is a “better than new restoration, and priced accordingly”.  If I were handing down a high end NAK to an adult child who would use it, but might not be willing to fix anything that went wrong, I’d be more likely to consider ESL.  My owns NAKS?  My 3 Dragons are purring away in the equipment room as I write this, and they are used at least weekly.  Bottom line is paying more may result in better work, at least it should, but my philosophy in audio is sound that is “good enough” and, in what he does, Willy is more than “good enough”.
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From mfallon at windstream.net  Mon Apr 28 17:39:10 2014
From: mfallon at windstream.net (mfallon at windstream.net)
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 11:39:10 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] RX-505 repair
In-Reply-To: <870C689A-C3F2-47FE-8B78-8CC6B9261DF5@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20140428113910.IDAX6.116993.root@pamxwww10-z01>



Hello folks,   

I bought a RX505 a couple weeks ago and I believe that it needs a new take-up/spool belt (if that is what they are called).  Motor seems to run fine and flipping mechanism works great.   Did not want to try this myself but if I did, are these belts available anywhere in US?  I only see them sold in Germany when I looked on EBay...

thx
Mike


From wheijke at xs4all.nl  Mon Apr 28 17:56:19 2014
From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke)
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 17:56:19 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] repair guys in LA
Message-ID: <39dc9ae2bba69af2d435c244e33b6b10.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>

I think the question was answered long time ago.
Next subject!
Wouter






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From wheijke at xs4all.nl  Thu Aug  7 14:00:27 2014
From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 14:00:27 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
Message-ID: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>

Hi Everyone,

This is partly to check why it is so quiet on naktalk and to see if those
bounce emails some of you may have received are gone ...

Wouter


From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  7 14:03:17 2014
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 22:03:17 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
References: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <5B2BE148-B0B4-463C-826B-D89477188513@yahoo.com>

Hi Wouter, 

Yes, I've reregistered and that seems to have taken care of the bounce email. Cheers!  

Best Regards, 
Bala Ganesh

> On 7 Aug 2014, at 10:00 pm, "Wouter Heijke" <wheijke at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> This is partly to check why it is so quiet on naktalk and to see if those
> bounce emails some of you may have received are gone ...
> 
> Wouter
> 
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>                        Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist
> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========

From josephjean at verizon.net  Thu Aug  7 14:05:31 2014
From: josephjean at verizon.net (Roland)
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 08:05:31 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
Message-ID: <pkv0rgd0dc6rb2lckjfxwgrp.1407413121537@email.android.com>

I'm fine here. 


Roland

Sent from Samsung tablet.

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Date:08/07/2014  8:00 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: naktalk at lists.naks.com 
Subject: [naktalk] quiet 

Hi Everyone,

This is partly to check why it is so quiet on naktalk and to see if those
bounce emails some of you may have received are gone ...

Wouter

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From fleece at dds.nl  Thu Aug  7 14:12:46 2014
From: fleece at dds.nl (Pieter Bareman)
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 14:12:46 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
References: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <53E36D3E.9040709@dds.nl>

Hi Wouter,

Thanks a million for all the effort you put into naktalk!

I got a last email on july 28.

Regards,

Pieter

> Hi Everyone,
>
> This is partly to check why it is so quiet on naktalk and to see if those
> bounce emails some of you may have received are gone ...
>
> Wouter
>
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>            Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>                          Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist
> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========


From umeshchandran.r at gmail.com  Thu Aug  7 14:16:05 2014
From: umeshchandran.r at gmail.com (Umesh R)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 17:46:05 +0530
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
References: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <CALkUgJPjj-p+rDX_grnusAOaLyzS3NU_pYkjr+5HWK5S=e8Omg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks. I was beginning to wonder why I'm not getting any naktalk mails.
Now I think it was only a few days of nak silence. Nothing is technically
wrong. A big relief indeed.
Umesh
On 07-Aug-2014 5:30 pm, "Wouter Heijke" <wheijke at xs4all.nl> wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> This is partly to check why it is so quiet on naktalk and to see if those
> bounce emails some of you may have received are gone ...
>
> Wouter
>
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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From johnn380 at tx.rr.com  Thu Aug  7 14:16:39 2014
From: johnn380 at tx.rr.com (John Nelson)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 07:16:39 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
References: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <002101cfb239$7113b270$533b1750$@tx.rr.com>

Good here in Texas...




From thomas36245-net at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  7 14:56:00 2014
From: thomas36245-net at yahoo.com (thomas)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 05:56:00 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <F9C83C2D-2030-4F8D-982A-F237023559C9@sbcglobal.net>
References: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
 <F9C83C2D-2030-4F8D-982A-F237023559C9@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1407416160.80303.YahooMailNeo@web184903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>




Hi Wouter,  I thought there might be a few problems with the new server thing. Thanks for checking on us. I've been busy with outside yard work ( we only get 4 months of decent weather in the upper Midwest )  and will get back to the Nak repairing work soon.  Thomas





> On Aug 7, 2014, at 8:00 AM, "Wouter Heijke" <wheijke at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> This is partly to check why it is so quiet on naktalk and to see if those
> bounce emails some of you may have received are gone ...
> 
> Wouter
> 
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com/
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>                        Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist
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From mneitzel at gmail.com  Thu Aug  7 14:34:33 2014
From: mneitzel at gmail.com (Matthew Neitzel)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 07:34:33 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <002101cfb239$7113b270$533b1750$@tx.rr.com>
References: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
 <002101cfb239$7113b270$533b1750$@tx.rr.com>
Message-ID: <2AF4D974-2376-45A8-96D0-DA2A80B8D2F6@gmail.com>

Good in Wisconsin, and still trying to get that Rx202 going

Matthew Neitzel


> On Aug 7, 2014, at 7:16 AM, "John Nelson" <johnn380 at tx.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> Good here in Texas...
> 
> 
> 
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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From vvinodk at hotmail.com  Thu Aug  7 14:36:01 2014
From: vvinodk at hotmail.com (Vinod Kumar)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 12:36:01 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
References: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <COL131-W575511CD51251AAE272DEA8E10@phx.gbl>

All good in Michigan

> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 14:00:27 +0200
> From: wheijke at xs4all.nl
> To: naktalk at lists.naks.com
> Subject: [naktalk] quiet
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> This is partly to check why it is so quiet on naktalk and to see if those
> bounce emails some of you may have received are gone ...
> 
> Wouter
> 
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist
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From n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl  Thu Aug  7 15:16:46 2014
From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl (Ziggo)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 15:16:46 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <COL131-W575511CD51251AAE272DEA8E10@phx.gbl>
References: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
 <COL131-W575511CD51251AAE272DEA8E10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <DC5DACB9-68AF-4361-9BED-BCE8C417C527@ziggo.nl>

All decks up and running here

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

> Op 7 aug. 2014 om 14:36 heeft Vinod Kumar <vvinodk at hotmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> All good in Michigan
> 
> > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 14:00:27 +0200
> > From: wheijke at xs4all.nl
> > To: naktalk at lists.naks.com
> > Subject: [naktalk] quiet
> > 
> > Hi Everyone,
> > 
> > This is partly to check why it is so quiet on naktalk and to see if those
> > bounce emails some of you may have received are gone ...
> > 
> > Wouter
> > 
> > ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
> > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
> > ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
> > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist
> > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
> > ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>                        Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist
> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
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From mneitzel at gmail.com  Thu Aug  7 15:12:43 2014
From: mneitzel at gmail.com (Matthew L. Neitzel)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 08:12:43 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <COL131-W575511CD51251AAE272DEA8E10@phx.gbl>
References: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
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Message-ID: <CAA6Agxi2XTbz=yy+xTsZS==7d0i=ggHJt+8QdOKCARfwV1ET7A@mail.gmail.com>

maybe we all are too busy listening to our Naks.




On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Vinod Kumar <vvinodk at hotmail.com> wrote:

> All good in Michigan
>
> > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 14:00:27 +0200
> > From: wheijke at xs4all.nl
>
> > To: naktalk at lists.naks.com
> > Subject: [naktalk] quiet
> >
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > This is partly to check why it is so quiet on naktalk and to see if those
> > bounce emails some of you may have received are gone ...
> >
> > Wouter
> >
> >
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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> >
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From patty at jbrudy.com  Thu Aug  7 16:25:52 2014
From: patty at jbrudy.com (Patty)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 07:25:52 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <COL131-W575511CD51251AAE272DEA8E10@phx.gbl>
References: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
 <COL131-W575511CD51251AAE272DEA8E10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <650075CBEDB247A2ABC0F3A0C7432D00@UserPC>

ALL GOOD IN CALI

 

  _____  

From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Vinod
Kumar
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 5:36 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] quiet

 

All good in Michigan

> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 14:00:27 +0200
> From: wheijke at xs4all.nl
> To: naktalk at lists.naks.com
> Subject: [naktalk] quiet
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> This is partly to check why it is so quiet on naktalk and to see if those
> bounce emails some of you may have received are gone ...
> 
> Wouter
> 
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
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From sybarito at hotmail.com  Thu Aug  7 17:07:38 2014
From: sybarito at hotmail.com (Isy Fidelman)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 11:07:38 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
References: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W42AEB0836150B45E234E2BC6E10@phx.gbl>

hi wouter
Almost 4 years since I moved to Panama from Venezuela and haven't taken my Naks yet.
I already prepared a space in my home but it is difficult to move 5 Naks and the rest of my sound equipment.
Regards
Isy

> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 14:00:27 +0200
> From: wheijke at xs4all.nl
> To: naktalk at lists.naks.com
> Subject: [naktalk] quiet
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> This is partly to check why it is so quiet on naktalk and to see if those
> bounce emails some of you may have received are gone ...
> 
> Wouter
> 
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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From gabrenas at math.utah.edu  Thu Aug  7 18:09:20 2014
From: gabrenas at math.utah.edu (Victor Gabrenas)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 10:09:20 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
References: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <00d201cfb259$f629c600$e27d5200$@math.utah.edu>

Testing!!


Vic



From tnlaurence at gmail.com  Thu Aug  7 18:45:43 2014
From: tnlaurence at gmail.com (thomas laurence)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 11:45:43 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <650075CBEDB247A2ABC0F3A0C7432D00@UserPC>
References: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
 <COL131-W575511CD51251AAE272DEA8E10@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <CAC+9SMzXE=t8GguzfE2kzp3ZeCs6gy7ThBXSoa6D2HZgEPgYLg@mail.gmail.com>

All good in Illinois

Tom Laurence


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Patty <patty at jbrudy.com> wrote:

>     ALL GOOD IN CALI
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] *On Behalf Of *Vinod
> Kumar
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 07, 2014 5:36 AM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] quiet
>
>
>
> All good in Michigan
>
> > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 14:00:27 +0200
> > From: wheijke at xs4all.nl
>
> > To: naktalk at lists.naks.com
> > Subject: [naktalk] quiet
> >
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > This is partly to check why it is so quiet on naktalk and to see if those
> > bounce emails some of you may have received are gone ...
> >
> > Wouter
> >
> >
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
> > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
> >
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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From kaupp240 at hotmail.com  Thu Aug  7 19:03:39 2014
From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com (Cheryl Kaupp)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 07:03:39 -1000
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <BLU436-SMTP3909DE6FD78B1B9351E1D86E10@phx.gbl>


Not so good in Hawaii...bracing for impact.
Cheryl 

-----Original Message-----
From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Wouter
Heijke
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 2:00 AM
To: naktalk at lists.naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] quiet

Hi Everyone,

This is partly to check why it is so quiet on naktalk and to see if those
bounce emails some of you may have received are gone ...

Wouter

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From willy at willyhermannservices.com  Thu Aug  7 19:54:20 2014
From: willy at willyhermannservices.com (Willy Hermann)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 10:54:20 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <BLU436-SMTP3909DE6FD78B1B9351E1D86E10@phx.gbl>
References: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
 <BLU436-SMTP3909DE6FD78B1B9351E1D86E10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAM9V8Me7ZYkqRALt1ZjBeY2xE9-WZH75P88WouQHMmMU+UpXEg@mail.gmail.com>

We're watching from afar and keeping our fingers crossed.  Looks like your
neighborhood is dead center of the path of Iselle.
Hope all stays well!
Willy


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Not so good in Hawaii...bracing for impact.
> Cheryl
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Wouter
> Heijke
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 2:00 AM
> To: naktalk at lists.naks.com
> Subject: [naktalk] quiet
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> This is partly to check why it is so quiet on naktalk and to see if those
> bounce emails some of you may have received are gone ...
>
> Wouter
>
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your
> account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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From kaupp240 at hotmail.com  Thu Aug  7 20:04:38 2014
From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com (Cheryl Kaupp)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 08:04:38 -1000
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <CAM9V8Me7ZYkqRALt1ZjBeY2xE9-WZH75P88WouQHMmMU+UpXEg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU436-SMTP206EFB98F6B540F8599688B86E10@phx.gbl>

There's a lot of contagious anxiety around here today. The big worry is all
of the ginormous albezia trees that tend to come down quite easily. 
 
The native Ohia trees are suffering some kind of disease that has killed far
too many of them and they are also likely to come down.
 
Thanks for the well wishes. We fully expect to lose power as well as
internet, so I'll be in contact when conditions allow.
 
Aloha,
Cheryl


  _____  

From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Willy
Hermann
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 7:54 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] quiet


We're watching from afar and keeping our fingers crossed.  Looks like your
neighborhood is dead center of the path of Iselle.
Hope all stays well!
Willy


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:



Not so good in Hawaii...bracing for impact.
Cheryl


 

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From josephjean at verizon.net  Thu Aug  7 20:19:23 2014
From: josephjean at verizon.net (Roland)
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 14:19:23 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <BLU436-SMTP206EFB98F6B540F8599688B86E10@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU436-SMTP206EFB98F6B540F8599688B86E10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <53E3C32B.3020909@verizon.net>

Sorry this is happening and yes, we'll keep watch and hope for the best.


On 8/7/2014 2:04 PM, Cheryl Kaupp wrote:
> There's a lot of contagious anxiety around here today. The big worry 
> is all of the ginormous albezia trees that tend to come down quite 
> easily.
> The native Ohia trees are suffering some kind of disease that has 
> killed far too many of them and they are also likely to come down.
> Thanks for the well wishes. We fully expect to lose power as well as 
> internet, so I'll be in contact when conditions allow.
> Aloha,
> Cheryl
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] *On Behalf Of 
> *Willy Hermann
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 07, 2014 7:54 AM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] quiet
>
> We're watching from afar and keeping our fingers crossed.  Looks like 
> your neighborhood is dead center of the path of Iselle.
> Hope all stays well!
> Willy
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com 
> <mailto:kaupp240 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>     Not so good in Hawaii...bracing for impact.
>     Cheryl
>
>
>
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From gabrenas at math.utah.edu  Thu Aug  7 20:22:37 2014
From: gabrenas at math.utah.edu (Victor Gabrenas)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 12:22:37 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <53E3C32B.3020909@verizon.net>
References: <BLU436-SMTP206EFB98F6B540F8599688B86E10@phx.gbl>
 <53E3C32B.3020909@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <9EB25C81-3B8F-4DC9-92B4-6730AFBD399A@math.utah.edu>

Cheryl, where in Hawaii are you. I have a buddy on Maui bracing for the storms.
Stay safe!

Vic

On Aug 7, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Roland <josephjean at verizon.net> wrote:

> Sorry this is happening and yes, we'll keep watch and hope for the best.
> 
> 
> On 8/7/2014 2:04 PM, Cheryl Kaupp wrote:
>> There's a lot of contagious anxiety around here today. The big worry is all of the ginormous albezia trees that tend to come down quite easily.
>>  
>> The native Ohia trees are suffering some kind of disease that has killed far too many of them and they are also likely to come down.
>>  
>> Thanks for the well wishes. We fully expect to lose power as well as internet, so I'll be in contact when conditions allow.
>>  
>> Aloha,
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Willy Hermann
>> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 7:54 AM
>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] quiet
>> 
>> We're watching from afar and keeping our fingers crossed.  Looks like your neighborhood is dead center of the path of Iselle.
>> Hope all stays well!
>> Willy
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Not so good in Hawaii...bracing for impact.
>> Cheryl
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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From kaupp240 at hotmail.com  Thu Aug  7 20:45:40 2014
From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com (Cheryl Kaupp)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 08:45:40 -1000
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <9EB25C81-3B8F-4DC9-92B4-6730AFBD399A@math.utah.edu>
Message-ID: <BLU436-SMTP393152C3C8803AC42199A986E10@phx.gbl>

We are in Pahoa on the Big Island -- about 20 miles SSE of Hilo -- very
close to the eastern-most tip of the island. So we are within shouting
distance of where Iselle is expected to make landfall.
I've been watching the storm closely and somewhat expect it to veer to a
slightly more northerly route along the northeastern Hamakua Coast. But the
pros say no such luck. Time will tell.
If it does veer slightly more to the north it should weaken faster due to
the wind shear from the ever-present Hamakua winds. My fingers are crossed
that my wishful thinking comes to pass.

  _____  

From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Victor
Gabrenas
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 8:23 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] quiet


Cheryl, where in Hawaii are you. I have a buddy on Maui bracing for the
storms. 
Stay safe!


Vic

On Aug 7, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Roland <josephjean at verizon.net> wrote:


Sorry this is happening and yes, we'll keep watch and hope for the best.



On 8/7/2014 2:04 PM, Cheryl Kaupp wrote:


There's a lot of contagious anxiety around here today. The big worry is all
of the ginormous albezia trees that tend to come down quite easily. 
 
The native Ohia trees are suffering some kind of disease that has killed far
too many of them and they are also likely to come down.
 
Thanks for the well wishes. We fully expect to lose power as well as
internet, so I'll be in contact when conditions allow.
 
Aloha,
Cheryl

  _____  

From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Willy
Hermann
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 7:54 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] quiet


We're watching from afar and keeping our fingers crossed.  Looks like your
neighborhood is dead center of the path of Iselle.
Hope all stays well!
Willy


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:



Not so good in Hawaii...bracing for impact.
Cheryl


 


 

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<http://wiki.naks.com/> 

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From kaupp240 at hotmail.com  Thu Aug  7 20:48:32 2014
From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com (Cheryl Kaupp)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 08:48:32 -1000
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <53E3C32B.3020909@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <BLU436-SMTP12296B57308FAD25E3B13E686E10@phx.gbl>

Thanks Roland!

  _____  

From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Roland
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 8:19 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] quiet


Sorry this is happening and yes, we'll keep watch and hope for the best.



On 8/7/2014 2:04 PM, Cheryl Kaupp wrote:


There's a lot of contagious anxiety around here today. The big worry is all
of the ginormous albezia trees that tend to come down quite easily. 
 
The native Ohia trees are suffering some kind of disease that has killed far
too many of them and they are also likely to come down.
 
Thanks for the well wishes. We fully expect to lose power as well as
internet, so I'll be in contact when conditions allow.
 
Aloha,
Cheryl

  _____  

From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Willy
Hermann
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 7:54 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] quiet


We're watching from afar and keeping our fingers crossed.  Looks like your
neighborhood is dead center of the path of Iselle.
Hope all stays well!
Willy


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:



Not so good in Hawaii...bracing for impact.
Cheryl


 


 

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From jeruff at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  7 20:01:19 2014
From: jeruff at yahoo.com (jeruff)
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 13:01:19 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
Message-ID: <k9cio75pkelihpnrifa409ia.1407434479858@email.android.com>

I'm quiet because my 680zx is..love that deck.  My only beef would be with the scanning/cueing (ie ff & rw).  It's clunky by comparison with some of my Technics decks, but everything else about it--particularly the sound--is hard to believe honestly.  

Jesse in the Go


Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S®4.

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Wouter Heijke <wheijke at xs4all.nl> </div><div>Date:08/07/2014  7:00 AM  (GMT-06:00) </div><div>To: naktalk at lists.naks.com </div><div>Subject: [naktalk] quiet </div><div>
</div>Hi Everyone,

This is partly to check why it is so quiet on naktalk and to see if those
bounce emails some of you may have received are gone ...

Wouter

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From mneitzel at gmail.com  Thu Aug  7 20:06:54 2014
From: mneitzel at gmail.com (Matthew L. Neitzel)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 13:06:54 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <CAM9V8Me7ZYkqRALt1ZjBeY2xE9-WZH75P88WouQHMmMU+UpXEg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
 <BLU436-SMTP3909DE6FD78B1B9351E1D86E10@phx.gbl>
 <CAM9V8Me7ZYkqRALt1ZjBeY2xE9-WZH75P88WouQHMmMU+UpXEg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAA6Agxg3BM1mTeub-3E-7v9GAF1PJW9ycjGrv34sOsuppnJ4mQ@mail.gmail.com>

good to know we have so many live Naks


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Willy Hermann <
willy at willyhermannservices.com> wrote:

> We're watching from afar and keeping our fingers crossed.  Looks like your
> neighborhood is dead center of the path of Iselle.
> Hope all stays well!
> Willy
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Not so good in Hawaii...bracing for impact.
>> Cheryl
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Wouter
>> Heijke
>> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 2:00 AM
>> To: naktalk at lists.naks.com
>> Subject: [naktalk] quiet
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> This is partly to check why it is so quiet on naktalk and to see if those
>> bounce emails some of you may have received are gone ...
>>
>> Wouter
>>
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From mark8559 at hotmail.com  Thu Aug  7 20:10:08 2014
From: mark8559 at hotmail.com (Mark Exstedt)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 12:10:08 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] FW:  quiet
In-Reply-To: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
References: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
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I noticed no Nak emails for a long time.
Always want to be a member to this group.
Everything is fine in Phoenix, AZ

> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 14:00:27 +0200
> From: wheijke at xs4all.nl
> To: naktalk at lists.naks.com
> Subject: [naktalk] quiet
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> This is partly to check why it is so quiet on naktalk and to see if those
> bounce emails some of you may have received are gone ...
> 
> Wouter
> 
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From mech986 at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  7 20:31:42 2014
From: mech986 at yahoo.com (Bart)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 11:31:42 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <9EB25C81-3B8F-4DC9-92B4-6730AFBD399A@math.utah.edu>
References: <BLU436-SMTP206EFB98F6B540F8599688B86E10@phx.gbl>
 <53E3C32B.3020909@verizon.net>
 <9EB25C81-3B8F-4DC9-92B4-6730AFBD399A@math.utah.edu>
Message-ID: <1407436302.59144.YahooMailNeo@web181701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Ok here in SoCal.  Hope Cheryl will be ok too.
 
Regards,

Bart 


On Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:23 AM, Victor Gabrenas <gabrenas at math.utah.edu> wrote:
 

>
>
>Cheryl, where in Hawaii are you. I have a buddy on Maui bracing for the storms.
>Stay safe!
>
>
>
>Vic
>
>
>On Aug 7, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Roland <josephjean at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>Sorry this is happening and yes, we'll keep watch and hope for the best.
>
>
>
>On 8/7/2014 2:04 PM, Cheryl Kaupp wrote:
>
>There's a lot of contagious anxiety around here today. The big worry is all of the ginormous albezia trees that tend to come down quite easily. 
> 
>The native Ohia trees are suffering some kind of disease that has killed far too many of them and they are also likely to come down.
> 
>Thanks for the well wishes. We fully expect to lose power as well as internet, so I'll be in contact when conditions allow.
> 
>Aloha,
>Cheryl
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Willy Hermann
>Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 7:54 AM
>To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>Subject: Re: [naktalk] quiet
>
>
>We're watching from afar and keeping our fingers crossed.  Looks like your neighborhood is dead center of the path of Iselle.
>Hope all stays well!
>Willy
>
>
>
>On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Not so good in Hawaii...bracing for impact.
>>Cheryl
>> 
>>
>> 
>
>
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From radiocitycab at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  7 20:53:08 2014
From: radiocitycab at yahoo.com (Tim Rusling)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 11:53:08 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
References: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <1407437588.64303.YahooMailNeo@web125203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

OK here too.



On Thursday, August 7, 2014 8:01 AM, Wouter Heijke <wheijke at xs4all.nl> wrote:
 


Hi Everyone,

This is partly to check why it is so quiet on naktalk and to see if those
bounce emails some of you may have received are gone ...

Wouter

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From mneitzel at gmail.com  Thu Aug  7 20:54:03 2014
From: mneitzel at gmail.com (Matthew L. Neitzel)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 13:54:03 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <BLU436-SMTP12296B57308FAD25E3B13E686E10@phx.gbl>
References: <53E3C32B.3020909@verizon.net>
 <BLU436-SMTP12296B57308FAD25E3B13E686E10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAA6AgxgZRaO=gDTYPniAW8BywQe_zxY+jYen0pTBr0O6eo6=oA@mail.gmail.com>

Best of luck to everyone out there!


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  Thanks Roland!
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] *On Behalf Of *
> Roland
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 07, 2014 8:19 AM
>
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] quiet
>
> Sorry this is happening and yes, we'll keep watch and hope for the best.
>
>
> On 8/7/2014 2:04 PM, Cheryl Kaupp wrote:
>
> There's a lot of contagious anxiety around here today. The big worry is
> all of the ginormous albezia trees that tend to come down quite easily.
>
> The native Ohia trees are suffering some kind of disease that has killed
> far too many of them and they are also likely to come down.
>
> Thanks for the well wishes. We fully expect to lose power as well as
> internet, so I'll be in contact when conditions allow.
>
> Aloha,
> Cheryl
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com
> <naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com>] *On Behalf Of *Willy Hermann
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 07, 2014 7:54 AM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] quiet
>
>  We're watching from afar and keeping our fingers crossed.  Looks like
> your neighborhood is dead center of the path of Iselle.
> Hope all stays well!
> Willy
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Not so good in Hawaii...bracing for impact.
>> Cheryl
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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>
> --
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From dieseldude1 at gmail.com  Thu Aug  7 21:14:17 2014
From: dieseldude1 at gmail.com (Samuel Crider)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 14:14:17 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <BLU436-SMTP206EFB98F6B540F8599688B86E10@phx.gbl>
References: <CAM9V8Me7ZYkqRALt1ZjBeY2xE9-WZH75P88WouQHMmMU+UpXEg@mail.gmail.com>
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Hang in there! Hopefully the winds won't be too bad. Just beware of the
storm surge.

Best wishes,
Samuel
New Orleans
On Aug 7, 2014 1:04 PM, "Cheryl Kaupp" <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  There's a lot of contagious anxiety around here today. The big worry is
> all of the ginormous albezia trees that tend to come down quite easily.
>
> The native Ohia trees are suffering some kind of disease that has killed
> far too many of them and they are also likely to come down.
>
> Thanks for the well wishes. We fully expect to lose power as well as
> internet, so I'll be in contact when conditions allow.
>
> Aloha,
> Cheryl
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] *On Behalf Of *Willy
> Hermann
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 07, 2014 7:54 AM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] quiet
>
>  We're watching from afar and keeping our fingers crossed.  Looks like
> your neighborhood is dead center of the path of Iselle.
> Hope all stays well!
> Willy
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Not so good in Hawaii...bracing for impact.
>> Cheryl
>>
>>
>>
>
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From kaupp240 at hotmail.com  Thu Aug  7 21:33:22 2014
From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com (Cheryl Kaupp)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 09:33:22 -1000
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <CAA6AgxgZRaO=gDTYPniAW8BywQe_zxY+jYen0pTBr0O6eo6=oA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU436-SMTP20150FAAA4BF9D5B324B84486E10@phx.gbl>

Thanks everyone! The rain and wind from the outer bands is starting to hit
us.

  _____  

From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Matthew
L. Neitzel
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 8:54 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] quiet


Best of luck to everyone out there!


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:



Thanks Roland!

  _____  

From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Roland
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 8:19 AM 

To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] quiet


Sorry this is happening and yes, we'll keep watch and hope for the best.



On 8/7/2014 2:04 PM, Cheryl Kaupp wrote:


There's a lot of contagious anxiety around here today. The big worry is all
of the ginormous albezia trees that tend to come down quite easily. 
 
The native Ohia trees are suffering some kind of disease that has killed far
too many of them and they are also likely to come down.
 
Thanks for the well wishes. We fully expect to lose power as well as
internet, so I'll be in contact when conditions allow.
 
Aloha,
Cheryl

  _____  

From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Willy
Hermann
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 7:54 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] quiet


We're watching from afar and keeping our fingers crossed.  Looks like your
neighborhood is dead center of the path of Iselle.
Hope all stays well!
Willy


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:



Not so good in Hawaii...bracing for impact.
Cheryl


 


 

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From pbtanner at hotmail.com  Thu Aug  7 21:36:47 2014
From: pbtanner at hotmail.com (Peter Tanner)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 19:36:47 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
References: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <BLU173-W18F10B8B0FFE25B8E8239FDFE10@phx.gbl>

Back to normal now, it seems. Thanks Wouter

Peter

> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 14:00:27 +0200
> From: wheijke at xs4all.nl
> To: naktalk at lists.naks.com
> Subject: [naktalk] quiet
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> This is partly to check why it is so quiet on naktalk and to see if those
> bounce emails some of you may have received are gone ...
> 
> Wouter
> 
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From mneitzel at gmail.com  Thu Aug  7 21:47:13 2014
From: mneitzel at gmail.com (Matthew L. Neitzel)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 14:47:13 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <BLU436-SMTP20150FAAA4BF9D5B324B84486E10@phx.gbl>
References: <CAA6AgxgZRaO=gDTYPniAW8BywQe_zxY+jYen0pTBr0O6eo6=oA@mail.gmail.com>
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prayers are with you


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  Thanks everyone! The rain and wind from the outer bands is starting to
> hit us.
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] *On Behalf Of *Matthew
> L. Neitzel
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 07, 2014 8:54 AM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] quiet
>
>  Best of luck to everyone out there!
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  Thanks Roland!
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] *On Behalf Of *
>> Roland
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 07, 2014 8:19 AM
>>
>> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] quiet
>>
>>  Sorry this is happening and yes, we'll keep watch and hope for the best.
>>
>>
>> On 8/7/2014 2:04 PM, Cheryl Kaupp wrote:
>>
>> There's a lot of contagious anxiety around here today. The big worry is
>> all of the ginormous albezia trees that tend to come down quite easily.
>>
>> The native Ohia trees are suffering some kind of disease that has killed
>> far too many of them and they are also likely to come down.
>>
>> Thanks for the well wishes. We fully expect to lose power as well as
>> internet, so I'll be in contact when conditions allow.
>>
>> Aloha,
>> Cheryl
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com
>> <naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com>] *On Behalf Of *Willy Hermann
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 07, 2014 7:54 AM
>> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] quiet
>>
>>  We're watching from afar and keeping our fingers crossed.  Looks like
>> your neighborhood is dead center of the path of Iselle.
>> Hope all stays well!
>> Willy
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Not so good in Hawaii...bracing for impact.
>>> Cheryl
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist
>> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>
>>
>> --
>> Roland
>>
>>
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>
>
>
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From n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl  Thu Aug  7 22:00:01 2014
From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl (Ziggo)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 22:00:01 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <BLU436-SMTP20150FAAA4BF9D5B324B84486E10@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU436-SMTP20150FAAA4BF9D5B324B84486E10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4765386D-BBBC-4149-9C26-A3EC2DBC613F@ziggo.nl>

Hi Cheryl,

Hope it is going well.
Best of luck for you.
Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

> Op 7 aug. 2014 om 21:33 heeft Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Thanks everyone! The rain and wind from the outer bands is starting to hit us.
> 
> From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Matthew L. Neitzel
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 8:54 AM
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] quiet
> 
> Best of luck to everyone out there!
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks Roland!
>> 
>> From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Roland
>> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 8:19 AM
>> 
>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] quiet
>> 
>> Sorry this is happening and yes, we'll keep watch and hope for the best.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8/7/2014 2:04 PM, Cheryl Kaupp wrote:
>>> There's a lot of contagious anxiety around here today. The big worry is all of the ginormous albezia trees that tend to come down quite easily.
>>>  
>>> The native Ohia trees are suffering some kind of disease that has killed far too many of them and they are also likely to come down.
>>>  
>>> Thanks for the well wishes. We fully expect to lose power as well as internet, so I'll be in contact when conditions allow.
>>>  
>>> Aloha,
>>> Cheryl
>>> 
>>> From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Willy Hermann
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 7:54 AM
>>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] quiet
>>> 
>>> We're watching from afar and keeping our fingers crossed.  Looks like your neighborhood is dead center of the path of Iselle.
>>> Hope all stays well!
>>> Willy
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Not so good in Hawaii...bracing for impact.
>>>> Cheryl
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist
>>> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>> 
>> -- 
>> Roland
>> 
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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>> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  7 22:22:30 2014
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 06:22:30 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <4765386D-BBBC-4149-9C26-A3EC2DBC613F@ziggo.nl>
References: <BLU436-SMTP20150FAAA4BF9D5B324B84486E10@phx.gbl>
 <4765386D-BBBC-4149-9C26-A3EC2DBC613F@ziggo.nl>
Message-ID: <D648D7B9-BEE9-4CDC-ACED-8D374761EDB4@yahoo.com>

Hope you guys pull through and best of luck. 

Best Regards, 
Bala Ganesh

> On 8 Aug 2014, at 6:00 am, Ziggo <n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl> wrote:
> 
> Hi Cheryl,
> 
> Hope it is going well.
> Best of luck for you.
> Norman
> 
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
> 
>> Op 7 aug. 2014 om 21:33 heeft Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> Thanks everyone! The rain and wind from the outer bands is starting to hit us.
>> 
>> From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Matthew L. Neitzel
>> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 8:54 AM
>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] quiet
>> 
>> Best of luck to everyone out there!
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Thanks Roland!
>>> 
>>> From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Roland
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 8:19 AM
>>> 
>>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] quiet
>>> 
>>> Sorry this is happening and yes, we'll keep watch and hope for the best.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 8/7/2014 2:04 PM, Cheryl Kaupp wrote:
>>>> There's a lot of contagious anxiety around here today. The big worry is all of the ginormous albezia trees that tend to come down quite easily.
>>>>  
>>>> The native Ohia trees are suffering some kind of disease that has killed far too many of them and they are also likely to come down.
>>>>  
>>>> Thanks for the well wishes. We fully expect to lose power as well as internet, so I'll be in contact when conditions allow.
>>>>  
>>>> Aloha,
>>>> Cheryl
>>>> 
>>>> From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Willy Hermann
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 7:54 AM
>>>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>>>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] quiet
>>>> 
>>>> We're watching from afar and keeping our fingers crossed.  Looks like your neighborhood is dead center of the path of Iselle.
>>>> Hope all stays well!
>>>> Willy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not so good in Hawaii...bracing for impact.
>>>>> Cheryl
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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>> 
>> 
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From kaupp240 at hotmail.com  Thu Aug  7 23:11:37 2014
From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com (Cheryl Kaupp)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 11:11:37 -1000
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <4765386D-BBBC-4149-9C26-A3EC2DBC613F@ziggo.nl>
Message-ID: <BLU436-SMTP1990345272FE57B5969A6E586E10@phx.gbl>

Thanks Norman!

  _____  

From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Ziggo
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 10:00 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] quiet


Hi Cheryl,

Hope it is going well.
Best of luck for you.
Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

Op 7 aug. 2014 om 21:33 heeft Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> het
volgende geschreven:



Thanks everyone! The rain and wind from the outer bands is starting to hit
us.

  _____  

From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Matthew
L. Neitzel
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 8:54 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] quiet


Best of luck to everyone out there!


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:



Thanks Roland!

  _____  

From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Roland
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 8:19 AM 

To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] quiet


Sorry this is happening and yes, we'll keep watch and hope for the best.



On 8/7/2014 2:04 PM, Cheryl Kaupp wrote:


There's a lot of contagious anxiety around here today. The big worry is all
of the ginormous albezia trees that tend to come down quite easily. 
 
The native Ohia trees are suffering some kind of disease that has killed far
too many of them and they are also likely to come down.
 
Thanks for the well wishes. We fully expect to lose power as well as
internet, so I'll be in contact when conditions allow.
 
Aloha,
Cheryl

  _____  

From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Willy
Hermann
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 7:54 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] quiet


We're watching from afar and keeping our fingers crossed.  Looks like your
neighborhood is dead center of the path of Iselle.
Hope all stays well!
Willy


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:



Not so good in Hawaii...bracing for impact.
Cheryl


 


 

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From kaupp240 at hotmail.com  Thu Aug  7 23:11:56 2014
From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com (Cheryl Kaupp)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 11:11:56 -1000
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <CAA6AgxiBg5A6MwbRJjU-Od6e11T3rOo=EkD+PVxTGww3TidWCg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU436-SMTP3961145824A5515B724BB886E10@phx.gbl>

Thanks Matthew!

  _____  

From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Matthew
L. Neitzel
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 9:47 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] quiet


prayers are with you 


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:



Thanks everyone! The rain and wind from the outer bands is starting to hit
us.

  _____  

From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Matthew
L. Neitzel 

Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 8:54 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] quiet


Best of luck to everyone out there!


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:



Thanks Roland!

  _____  

From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Roland
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 8:19 AM 

To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] quiet


Sorry this is happening and yes, we'll keep watch and hope for the best.



On 8/7/2014 2:04 PM, Cheryl Kaupp wrote:


There's a lot of contagious anxiety around here today. The big worry is all
of the ginormous albezia trees that tend to come down quite easily. 
 
The native Ohia trees are suffering some kind of disease that has killed far
too many of them and they are also likely to come down.
 
Thanks for the well wishes. We fully expect to lose power as well as
internet, so I'll be in contact when conditions allow.
 
Aloha,
Cheryl

  _____  

From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Willy
Hermann
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 7:54 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] quiet


We're watching from afar and keeping our fingers crossed.  Looks like your
neighborhood is dead center of the path of Iselle.
Hope all stays well!
Willy


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:



Not so good in Hawaii...bracing for impact.
Cheryl


 


 

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From perry.nak at comcast.net  Fri Aug  8 13:04:54 2014
From: perry.nak at comcast.net (Perry Esposito)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 07:04:54 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] 700zxe help
Message-ID: <27762949-7877-4F63-9101-3824A568529F@comcast.net>

All good here Naktalk wise. Not so good 700zxe wise. I have done a total service on a 700zxe, total recap, rebuild, point to point connector check, (the list of problems it had when I got it are a mile long) and have everything working wonderfully EXCEPT the Level and Bias portion of the autocal. I have the azimuth portion working ok now, though it is not as precise as all my ZX decks. What I really need is to borrow an autocal board extender and or a known good autocal board. I can measure that the states of most of the logic chips are changing when Autocal initiates, but no way to measure the change to the inputs or outputs of opamps 101/201 & it never gets past the first iteration and no data points change at the inputs to ICs 707 and 708. I suspect 706 as I only see a brief flash of the output on pin 1.  ANY help would be greatly appreciated. 

Oh and Thanks, Wouter!

Be safe Cheryl. 

Sent from Perry Esposito via iPhone

From spok2000 at gmx.de  Fri Aug  8 14:26:01 2014
From: spok2000 at gmx.de (spok2000 at gmx.de)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 14:26:01 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk Digest, Vol 137, Issue 1
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1407492001.5500.naktalk@lists.naks.com>
References: <mailman.1.1407492001.5500.naktalk@lists.naks.com>
Message-ID: <F6ED28E9-8DD7-4127-A7DA-5D2E3F3F464C@gmx.de>


> Hi Everyone,
> 
> This is partly to check why it is so quiet on naktalk and to see if those
> bounce emails some of you may have received are gone ...
> 
> Wouter

All good over here in Lala-Land...Naks spinning the wheels...
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From davidt124 at internode.on.net  Fri Aug  8 13:58:39 2014
From: davidt124 at internode.on.net (David Thompson)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 21:58:39 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] Nak deck 480
Message-ID: <D00AF88F.21D7A%davidt124@internode.on.net>

Would anyone have a spare headphone socket with thread and nut to suit a 480
deck?
Also need a screw for the bottom cover.
Any assistance appreciated.

David


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From n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl  Fri Aug  8 15:24:09 2014
From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl (Ziggo)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 15:24:09 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Nak deck 480
In-Reply-To: <D00AF88F.21D7A%davidt124@internode.on.net>
References: <D00AF88F.21D7A%davidt124@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <641FA0D8-9DF7-4896-AA6C-7A3ABFA074E0@ziggo.nl>

Hi David,

Give me your shipping adres,
I can send you the parts for free.

Best regards,

Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

> Op 8 aug. 2014 om 13:58 heeft David Thompson <davidt124 at internode.on.net> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Would anyone have a spare headphone socket with thread and nut to suit a 480 deck?
> Also need a screw for the bottom cover.
> Any assistance appreciated.
> 
> David
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From wotbob01 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  8 17:02:34 2014
From: wotbob01 at yahoo.com (Bob Naylor)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 08:02:34 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk Digest, Vol 137, Issue 1
In-Reply-To: <F6ED28E9-8DD7-4127-A7DA-5D2E3F3F464C@gmx.de>
References: <mailman.1.1407492001.5500.naktalk@lists.naks.com>
 <F6ED28E9-8DD7-4127-A7DA-5D2E3F3F464C@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <1407510154.27053.YahooMailNeo@web184706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

All fine in No. California.
Bob N


On Friday, August 8, 2014 5:26 AM, "spok2000 at gmx.de" <spok2000 at gmx.de> wrote:
 



> Hi Everyone,
> 
> This is partly to check why it is so quiet on naktalk and to see if those
> bounce emails some of you may have received are gone ...
> 
> Wouter

All good over here in Lala-Land...Naks spinning the wheels...

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From willy at willyhermannservices.com  Fri Aug  8 17:10:36 2014
From: willy at willyhermannservices.com (Willy Hermann)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 08:10:36 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Nak deck 480
In-Reply-To: <D00AF88F.21D7A%davidt124@internode.on.net>
References: <D00AF88F.21D7A%davidt124@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <CAM9V8Mfvx2-8FUzHBn0XOhqymtgTZr_Q9dLz01-o0paWJ3xOyg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi David -
Contact me off forum and I will supply your headphone jack.
Willy at willyhs.com
Willy


On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 4:58 AM, David Thompson <davidt124 at internode.on.net>
wrote:

> Would anyone have a spare headphone socket with thread and nut to suit a
> 480 deck?
> Also need a screw for the bottom cover.
> Any assistance appreciated.
>
> David
>
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From mneitzel at gmail.com  Fri Aug  8 15:35:16 2014
From: mneitzel at gmail.com (Matthew L. Neitzel)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 08:35:16 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
In-Reply-To: <BLU436-SMTP3961145824A5515B724BB886E10@phx.gbl>
References: <CAA6AgxiBg5A6MwbRJjU-Od6e11T3rOo=EkD+PVxTGww3TidWCg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAA6AgxigAk_2a=ccX_yoyFyq7jezgN3kn=1GiLY1Fqp8i+yC=A@mail.gmail.com>

Let us all know how it goes.




On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  Thanks Matthew!
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] *On Behalf Of *Matthew
> L. Neitzel
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 07, 2014 9:47 AM
>
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] quiet
>
>  prayers are with you
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  Thanks everyone! The rain and wind from the outer bands is starting to
>> hit us.
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] *On Behalf Of *Matthew
>> L. Neitzel
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 07, 2014 8:54 AM
>> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] quiet
>>
>>   Best of luck to everyone out there!
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Thanks Roland!
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] *On Behalf Of *
>>> Roland
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 07, 2014 8:19 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>>> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] quiet
>>>
>>>  Sorry this is happening and yes, we'll keep watch and hope for the
>>> best.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/7/2014 2:04 PM, Cheryl Kaupp wrote:
>>>
>>> There's a lot of contagious anxiety around here today. The big worry is
>>> all of the ginormous albezia trees that tend to come down quite easily.
>>>
>>> The native Ohia trees are suffering some kind of disease that has killed
>>> far too many of them and they are also likely to come down.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the well wishes. We fully expect to lose power as well as
>>> internet, so I'll be in contact when conditions allow.
>>>
>>> Aloha,
>>> Cheryl
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com
>>> <naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com>] *On Behalf Of *Willy Hermann
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 07, 2014 7:54 AM
>>> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>>> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] quiet
>>>
>>>  We're watching from afar and keeping our fingers crossed.  Looks like
>>> your neighborhood is dead center of the path of Iselle.
>>> Hope all stays well!
>>> Willy
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not so good in Hawaii...bracing for impact.
>>>> Cheryl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>>           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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>>>
>>> --
>>> Roland
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>
>>
>>
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>>
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From mneitzel at gmail.com  Fri Aug  8 15:40:50 2014
From: mneitzel at gmail.com (Matthew L. Neitzel)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 08:40:50 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] RX-202 worth saving?
Message-ID: <CAA6AgxhxrwDzZdkJ+5VhevzfPPpWY=wij-1WXb5iNnbCARaRgg@mail.gmail.com>

It has dented front corner.  Need to replace 10K pot on cassette tray and
maybe one electrical component.

Loved it for the brief time it worked.  But worth fixing or look for
another one?

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From koman56 at hol.gr  Fri Aug  8 15:48:47 2014
From: koman56 at hol.gr (Emmanouil Komninos)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 16:48:47 +0300
Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk Digest, Vol 137, Issue 1
In-Reply-To: <mailman.0.1407492001.5500.naktalk@lists.naks.com>
References: <mailman.0.1407492001.5500.naktalk@lists.naks.com>
Message-ID: <53E4D53F.30504@hol.gr>

Hi Wouter everything OK here in Athens! Probably a lot of Nak Talkers on 
holidays?
Manos
On 8/8/2014 1:00 μμ, naktalk-request at lists.naks.com wrote:
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>     5. Re: quiet (Umesh R)
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>    12. Re: quiet (Patty)
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>    15. Re: quiet (thomas laurence)
>    16. Re: quiet (Cheryl Kaupp)
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From douglocke at whiteapple.u-net.com  Fri Aug  8 16:03:56 2014
From: douglocke at whiteapple.u-net.com (Doug locke)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 15:03:56 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
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References: <21f7706cc6f7457c97c6aa7b2d92e171.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
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All okay in the UK!

Doug.



> > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 14:00:27 +0200
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From grover.zinn at oberlin.edu  Sat Aug  9 06:52:58 2014
From: grover.zinn at oberlin.edu (Grover Zinn)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 00:52:58 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
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Getting emails ok.  

Thaks Wouter for all your effort.

best

Grover

Grover A. Zinn, Jr.

Oberlin College
Oberlin, OH 44074



On Aug 7, 2014, at 8:12 AM, Pieter Bareman <fleece at dds.nl> wrote:

> Hi Wouter,
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> Thanks a million for all the effort you put into naktalk!
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> I got a last email on july 28.
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> Pieter
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From bernard.boitrel at gmail.com  Sat Aug  9 20:00:37 2014
From: bernard.boitrel at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 20:00:37 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] quiet
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Hi everyone,

Got all the mails of the list here in France. Everything's OK.
Bernard

Wouter Heijke a écrit :
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From kaupp240 at hotmail.com  Fri Aug 15 22:05:26 2014
From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com (Cheryl Kaupp)
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 10:05:26 -1000
Subject: [naktalk] Storm update
Message-ID: <BLU437-SMTP58FDC79C4AECF5ED50429086E90@phx.gbl>


 
Hello everyone, 
 
We actually had it pretty good although we found out 2 hours into the storm
that our 4 solar PV batteries were getting too worn out to be of much use.
So I spent the week cycling the daytime solar through the refer, the
freezer, and the water pump. We lost a few gallons of milk, a quart of half
and half and some lettuce but I don't think we lost anything from the
freezer. We cooked on the barbecue and manually poured hot water through the
coffee maker every morning. I'm getting a bit old for these adventures but
we did fine. Our biggest hazzard was trying not to trip over any of the many
extension cords running to the solar outlets.  We did lose a bunch of fruit
trees and some Ohia trees but suffered no structural damage. 
 
But I will say that the storm itself was pretty scary. The winds were pretty
awful and you could hear trees cracking and falling. A rain forest is not
where you want to be during a hurricane or major tropical storm. At our
house, the mac nuts were blown off the trees and many of them hit the house
from the trees that are close. Every mac nut that hit the house sounded like
a small bomb going off. I was soooooooo glad when the storm finally passed.
The next morning there were so many trees down around Leilani Estates that
it was unreal. The absolute silence was eerie. Everyone around here was kind
of in a state of shock. There were so many trees down that you couldn't even
walk more than a lot or two before the road was blocked. The wires were down
in many places on just our little 1/2 mile portion of Nohea Street and there
were many places where they weren't down but had trees laying across them.
The sound of chain saws from down to dusk has permeated the air for a full
week. I must say the residents did a great job of cleaning up all the roads
of the smaller trees. Of course, the big guys had to come in with the heavy
equipment to remove the huge Albezias that were down everywhere. There are
areas of forest that will not recover in our lifetimes -- it was pretty
devastating. The coastal areas near us -- Pohoiki in particular -- were
pretty much destroyed. The suff actually pushed huge boulders into houses
and knocked them off their foundations. Early reports said there were no
structural damages from the storm--what total BS. With the roads being
impassable and residents without electricity, phones and internet it wasn't
possible to report problems. Cell phone coverage is very spotty here.
 
Since we lost power 2 hours into the storm, I fired up my crappy transistor
radio to get updates. We were already getting a civil defense warning that
there was an uncontrolled release of deadly hydrogen sulfide from the
geothermal plant (1 mile from here) and to evacuate if possible. Of course,
there were already so many trees down at that point that many roads were
nearly impassable. So 2 hours into the storm we are not only "sheltering in
place" from the storm but also sheltering in place from the geothermal plant
which meant closing up homes as tightly as possible. Before we lost our land
lines (3 hours into the storm), I conferenced with some other residents to
try and decide whether to try and evacuate or hunker down and hope for the
best. We decided that conditions outside were so horrible with all the trees
coming down that we should just stay put. We also reasoned that the winds
were so bad that they would likely dissipate most of the toxic gas. Those
assholes actually had a meeting before the storm and decided to keep the
geothermal plant running during a potential hurricane. Once the storm hit
the plant, it immediately took out its power lines via downed Albezia
giants. Losing the power lines removed the electrical load from the plant
and the generators spun out of control. The people who made the decision to
keep the plant running in the storm should be shot  -- it is surrounded by
giant Albezia trees. It should have been shut down several hours prior to
anticipated landfall.
 
The local thugs took the opportunity to steal whatever wasn't guarded and
continued to cause mischief such as street racing. There were 3 or 4
burglaries right near our house in the days following the storm. On the good
side, all the decent people joined together to clear our roads and bring in
ice, water, and food. Even residents who  haven't been on speaking terms
came forward to help each other. It's been a pretty amazing show by the good
people of Puna.
 
Aloha  and mahalo  for all the well-wishes,
Cheryl
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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 15 22:18:39 2014
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra)
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 13:18:39 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Storm update
In-Reply-To: <BLU437-SMTP58FDC79C4AECF5ED50429086E90@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU437-SMTP58FDC79C4AECF5ED50429086E90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1408133919.30174.YahooMailNeo@web163806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Glad to hear that Cheryl. Once again, through such events, we see some amazing displays of solidarity amongst communities. 

Best Regards, 
Bala 


________________________________
 From: Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' <naktalk at lists.naks.com> 
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 6:05 AM
Subject: [naktalk] Storm update
 



 
Hello everyone, 
 
We actually had it pretty good although we found out 2 hours into 
the storm that our 4 solar PV batteries were getting too worn out to be of much 
use. So I spent the week cycling the daytime solar through the refer, the 
freezer, and the water pump. We lost a few gallons of milk, a quart of half and 
half and some lettuce but I don't think we lost anything from the freezer. We 
cooked on the barbecue and manually poured hot water through the coffee maker 
every morning. I'm getting a bit old for these adventures but we did fine. Our 
biggest hazzard was trying not to trip over any of the many extension cords 
running to the solar outlets.  We did 
lose a bunch of fruit trees and some Ohia trees but suffered no structural 
damage. 
 
But I will say that the storm itself was pretty scary. The winds were 
pretty awful and you could hear trees cracking and falling. A rain forest is not 
where you want to be during a hurricane or major tropical storm. At our house, 
the mac nuts were blown off the trees and many of them hit the house from the 
trees that are close. Every mac nut that hit the house sounded like a small bomb 
going off. I was soooooooo glad when the storm finally passed. The next morning 
there were so many trees down around Leilani Estates that it was unreal. The 
absolute silence was eerie. Everyone around here was kind of in a state of 
shock. There were so many trees down that you couldn't even walk more than a lot 
or two before the road was blocked. The wires were down in many places on just 
our little 1/2 mile portion of Nohea Street and there were many places where 
they weren't down but had trees laying across them. The sound of chain saws from 
down to dusk has permeated the air for a full week. I must say the 
residents did a great job of cleaning up all the roads of the smaller trees. Of 
course, the big guys had to come in with the heavy equipment to remove the huge 
Albezias that were down everywhere. There are areas of forest that will not 
recover in our lifetimes -- it was pretty devastating. The coastal areas near us 
-- Pohoiki in particular -- were pretty much destroyed. The suff actually pushed 
huge boulders into houses and knocked them off their foundations. Early reports 
said there were no structural damages from the storm--what total BS. 
With the roads being impassable and residents without electricity, phones 
and internet it wasn't possible to report problems. Cell phone coverage is 
very spotty here.
 
Since we lost power 2 hours into the storm, I fired up my crappy 
transistor radio to get updates. We were already getting a civil defense warning 
that there was an uncontrolled release of deadly hydrogen sulfide from the 
geothermal plant (1 mile from here) and to evacuate if possible. Of course, 
there were already so many trees down at that point that many roads 
were nearly impassable. So 2 hours into the storm we are not only 
"sheltering in place" from the storm but also sheltering in place from the 
geothermal plant which meant closing up homes as tightly as possible. Before we 
lost our land lines (3 hours into the storm), I conferenced with some other 
residents to try and decide whether to try and evacuate or hunker down and hope 
for the best. We decided that conditions outside were so horrible with all the 
trees coming down that we should just stay put. We also reasoned that the winds 
were so bad that they would likely dissipate most of the toxic gas. Those 
assholes actually had a meeting before the storm and decided to keep the 
geothermal plant running during a potential hurricane. Once the storm hit the 
plant, itimmediately took out its power lines via downed 
Albezia giants. Losing the power lines removed the electrical load from the 
plant and the generators spun out of control. The people who made the decision 
to keep the plant running in the storm should be shot  -- it is surrounded by giant Albezia 
trees. It should have been shut down several hours prior to anticipated 
landfall.
 
The local thugs took the 
opportunity to steal whatever wasn't guarded and continued to cause mischief 
such as street racing. There were 3 or 4 burglaries right near our house in the 
days following the storm. On the good side, all the decent people joined 
together to clear our roads and bring in ice, water, and food. Even residents 
who  haven't been on speaking 
terms came forward to help each other. It's been a pretty amazing show by the 
good people of Puna.
 
Aloha  and mahalo  for all the 
well-wishes,
Cheryl
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From wotbob01 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 16 00:30:42 2014
From: wotbob01 at yahoo.com (Bob Naylor)
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 15:30:42 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Storm update
In-Reply-To: <BLU437-SMTP58FDC79C4AECF5ED50429086E90@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU437-SMTP58FDC79C4AECF5ED50429086E90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1408141842.12465.YahooMailNeo@web184701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Cheryl, Glad you're ok. I think you ought to get your neighbors together and hang those looters. The world will be a better place without them.
Bob N


On Friday, August 15, 2014 1:05 PM, Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> wrote:
 



 
Hello everyone, 
 
We actually had it pretty good although we found out 2 hours into 
the storm that our 4 solar PV batteries were getting too worn out to be of much 
use. So I spent the week cycling the daytime solar through the refer, the 
freezer, and the water pump. We lost a few gallons of milk, a quart of half and 
half and some lettuce but I don't think we lost anything from the freezer. We 
cooked on the barbecue and manually poured hot water through the coffee maker 
every morning. I'm getting a bit old for these adventures but we did fine. Our 
biggest hazzard was trying not to trip over any of the many extension cords 
running to the solar outlets.  We did 
lose a bunch of fruit trees and some Ohia trees but suffered no structural 
damage. 
 
But I will say that the storm itself was pretty scary. The winds were 
pretty awful and you could hear trees cracking and falling. A rain forest is not 
where you want to be during a hurricane or major tropical storm. At our house, 
the mac nuts were blown off the trees and many of them hit the house from the 
trees that are close. Every mac nut that hit the house sounded like a small bomb 
going off. I was soooooooo glad when the storm finally passed. The next morning 
there were so many trees down around Leilani Estates that it was unreal. The 
absolute silence was eerie. Everyone around here was kind of in a state of 
shock. There were so many trees down that you couldn't even walk more than a lot 
or two before the road was blocked. The wires were down in many places on just 
our little 1/2 mile portion of Nohea Street and there were many places where 
they weren't down but had trees laying across them. The sound of chain saws from 
down to dusk has permeated the air for a full week. I must say the 
residents did a great job of cleaning up all the roads of the smaller trees. Of 
course, the big guys had to come in with the heavy equipment to remove the huge 
Albezias that were down everywhere. There are areas of forest that will not 
recover in our lifetimes -- it was pretty devastating. The coastal areas near us 
-- Pohoiki in particular -- were pretty much destroyed. The suff actually pushed 
huge boulders into houses and knocked them off their foundations. Early reports 
said there were no structural damages from the storm--what total BS. 
With the roads being impassable and residents without electricity, phones 
and internet it wasn't possible to report problems. Cell phone coverage is 
very spotty here.
 
Since we lost power 2 hours into the storm, I fired up my crappy 
transistor radio to get updates. We were already getting a civil defense warning 
that there was an uncontrolled release of deadly hydrogen sulfide from the 
geothermal plant (1 mile from here) and to evacuate if possible. Of course, 
there were already so many trees down at that point that many roads 
were nearly impassable. So 2 hours into the storm we are not only 
"sheltering in place" from the storm but also sheltering in place from the 
geothermal plant which meant closing up homes as tightly as possible. Before we 
lost our land lines (3 hours into the storm), I conferenced with some other 
residents to try and decide whether to try and evacuate or hunker down and hope 
for the best. We decided that conditions outside were so horrible with all the 
trees coming down that we should just stay put. We also reasoned that the winds 
were so bad that they would likely dissipate most of the toxic gas. Those 
assholes actually had a meeting before the storm and decided to keep the 
geothermal plant running during a potential hurricane. Once the storm hit the 
plant, itimmediately took out its power lines via downed 
Albezia giants. Losing the power lines removed the electrical load from the 
plant and the generators spun out of control. The people who made the decision 
to keep the plant running in the storm should be shot  -- it is surrounded by giant Albezia 
trees. It should have been shut down several hours prior to anticipated 
landfall.
 
The local thugs took the 
opportunity to steal whatever wasn't guarded and continued to cause mischief 
such as street racing. There were 3 or 4 burglaries right near our house in the 
days following the storm. On the good side, all the decent people joined 
together to clear our roads and bring in ice, water, and food. Even residents 
who  haven't been on speaking 
terms came forward to help each other. It's been a pretty amazing show by the 
good people of Puna.
 
Aloha  and mahalo  for all the 
well-wishes,
Cheryl
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From pbtanner at hotmail.com  Thu Aug 28 18:36:14 2014
From: pbtanner at hotmail.com (Peter Tanner)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 16:36:14 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] 480 problem
Message-ID: <BLU173-W16F83D634D9CCAC6F50F3BDFDA0@phx.gbl>

Hi everybody,

My 480 functions very well except the level indicators work erratically. Sometimes the left stops working sometimes the right. Never both at the same time though. I've re soldered the connections at the indicators still no change. The interesting thing is that with the cover off by touching the wire of one or the other non working indicator it comes back for a while then it goes again after the deck is switched off and back on again.
Another thing is while switching it in the record mode it produces a nasty click. The switch itself has been lubricated and it records and erases well. Both orange caps in the bias oscillator have been changed. Any ideas?
Thanks
Peter
 		 	   		  
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From n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl  Fri Aug 29 00:31:22 2014
From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl (Ziggo)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 00:31:22 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] 480 problem
In-Reply-To: <BLU173-W16F83D634D9CCAC6F50F3BDFDA0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU173-W16F83D634D9CCAC6F50F3BDFDA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <788374DC-EC5E-418C-80F7-42F7166CA091@ziggo.nl>

Hi Peter,
Is the click a electronic click or a mechanical click?
Best regards,
Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

> Op 28 aug. 2014 om 18:36 heeft Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi everybody,
> 
> My 480 functions very well except the level indicators work erratically. Sometimes the left stops working sometimes the right. Never both at the same time though. I've re soldered the connections at the indicators still no change. The interesting thing is that with the cover off by touching the wire of one or the other non working indicator it comes back for a while then it goes again after the deck is switched off and back on again.
> Another thing is while switching it in the record mode it produces a nasty click. The switch itself has been lubricated and it records and erases well. Both orange caps in the bias oscillator have been changed. Any ideas?
> Thanks
> Peter
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From pbtanner at hotmail.com  Fri Aug 29 12:19:53 2014
From: pbtanner at hotmail.com (Peter Tanner)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 10:19:53 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] 480 problem
In-Reply-To: <788374DC-EC5E-418C-80F7-42F7166CA091@ziggo.nl>
References: <BLU173-W16F83D634D9CCAC6F50F3BDFDA0@phx.gbl>,
 <788374DC-EC5E-418C-80F7-42F7166CA091@ziggo.nl>
Message-ID: <BLU173-W306F1B954ACE5498D96F99DFDB0@phx.gbl>

Hi Norman,

It's electronic and on the right channel mainly. The needle swings widely. Also on switching off but not so bad. Both clicks are audible on the recording. And, by the way, I've cleaned and re soldered the leads once again on the peak levels and now they work fine, finally. Both. Must have been a bad wire.
Best regards
Peter

From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 00:31:22 +0200
To: naktalk at lists.naks.com
Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480 problem

Hi Peter,Is the click a electronic click or a mechanical click?Best regards,Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
Op 28 aug. 2014 om 18:36 heeft Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com> het volgende geschreven:




Hi everybody,

My 480 functions very well except the level indicators work erratically. Sometimes the left stops working sometimes the right. Never both at the same time though. I've re soldered the connections at the indicators still no change. The interesting thing is that with the cover off by touching the wire of one or the other non working indicator it comes back for a while then it goes again after the deck is switched off and back on again.
Another thing is while switching it in the record mode it produces a nasty click. The switch itself has been lubricated and it records and erases well. Both orange caps in the bias oscillator have been changed. Any ideas?
Thanks
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From n.van.wijnen at gmail.com  Fri Aug 29 13:21:01 2014
From: n.van.wijnen at gmail.com (Norman van Wijnen)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 13:21:01 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] 480 problem
In-Reply-To: <BLU173-W306F1B954ACE5498D96F99DFDB0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU173-W16F83D634D9CCAC6F50F3BDFDA0@phx.gbl>
 <788374DC-EC5E-418C-80F7-42F7166CA091@ziggo.nl>
 <BLU173-W306F1B954ACE5498D96F99DFDB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <0BD858D7-0264-48BE-8AB2-8A78ABAB68D5@gmail.com>

Hi Peter,

The large switch on the pcb often become oxidated inside.
This sometimes is the reason for not to good contacts and clicks.
If you are very handy you can desolder the switch , take it apart and clean with silver polish.
If you are not that handy you can use deoxide to clean that switch.
Becarefull not to spray to much and beware of deoxide spraying inside the transport.


Best regards,

Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

> Op 29 aug. 2014 om 12:19 heeft Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi Norman,
> 
> It's electronic and on the right channel mainly. The needle swings widely. Also on switching off but not so bad. Both clicks are audible on the recording. And, by the way, I've cleaned and re soldered the leads once again on the peak levels and now they work fine, finally. Both. Must have been a bad wire.
> Best regards
> Peter
> 
> 
> From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl
> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 00:31:22 +0200
> To: naktalk at lists.naks.com
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480 problem
> 
> Hi Peter,
> Is the click a electronic click or a mechanical click?
> Best regards,
> Norman
> 
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
> 
> Op 28 aug. 2014 om 18:36 heeft Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi everybody,
> 
> My 480 functions very well except the level indicators work erratically. Sometimes the left stops working sometimes the right. Never both at the same time though. I've re soldered the connections at the indicators still no change. The interesting thing is that with the cover off by touching the wire of one or the other non working indicator it comes back for a while then it goes again after the deck is switched off and back on again.
> Another thing is while switching it in the record mode it produces a nasty click. The switch itself has been lubricated and it records and erases well. Both orange caps in the bias oscillator have been changed. Any ideas?
> Thanks
> Peter
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From maisiepat at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 29 15:40:22 2014
From: maisiepat at yahoo.com (Martin Dawson)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 14:40:22 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 581 & Nakamichi NR 200 noise reduction unit
Message-ID: <1409319622.57935.YahooMailIosMobile@web133101.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>

Hi All,<br/><br/>I've had both units from new I bought them from Unilet of New Malden Surrey UK in 1982.<br/><br/>The units have both been serviced last month have the original packaging and user manuals and even a service manual for the 581. These are exceptional machines with the 581 having the alloy transport unlike the later machines.<br/>I no longer have use for them and would rather not split the units. I have an array of leads to go with them. They have been used in a Linn / Naim system.<br/>Will consider offers that are sensible and shipping at your cost.<br/><br/>Regards,<br/><br/>Martin Dawson <a href="https://overview.mail.yahoo.com?.src=iOS"><br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a>
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From pbtanner at hotmail.com  Fri Aug 29 17:29:52 2014
From: pbtanner at hotmail.com (Peter Tanner)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 15:29:52 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] 480 problem
In-Reply-To: <0BD858D7-0264-48BE-8AB2-8A78ABAB68D5@gmail.com>
References: <BLU173-W16F83D634D9CCAC6F50F3BDFDA0@phx.gbl>,
 <788374DC-EC5E-418C-80F7-42F7166CA091@ziggo.nl>,
 <BLU173-W306F1B954ACE5498D96F99DFDB0@phx.gbl>,
 <0BD858D7-0264-48BE-8AB2-8A78ABAB68D5@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU173-W3965989F958DD32D83CF5ADFDB0@phx.gbl>

Thanks, Norman, I'll try that although this is the second switch on this machine but it may not have been cleaned before they changed it.

Best regards

Peter

From: n.van.wijnen at gmail.com
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 13:21:01 +0200
To: naktalk at lists.naks.com
Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480 problem

Hi Peter,
The large switch on the pcb often become oxidated inside.This sometimes is the reason for not to good contacts and clicks.If you are very handy you can desolder the switch , take it apart and clean with silver polish.If you are not that handy you can use deoxide to clean that switch.Becarefull not to spray to much and beware of deoxide spraying inside the transport.

Best regards,
Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
Op 29 aug. 2014 om 12:19 heeft Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com> het volgende geschreven:




Hi Norman,

It's electronic and on the right channel mainly. The needle swings widely. Also on switching off but not so bad. Both clicks are audible on the recording. And, by the way, I've cleaned and re soldered the leads once again on the peak levels and now they work fine, finally. Both. Must have been a bad wire.
Best regards
Peter

From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 00:31:22 +0200
To: naktalk at lists.naks.com
Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480 problem

Hi Peter,Is the click a electronic click or a mechanical click?Best regards,Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
Op 28 aug. 2014 om 18:36 heeft Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com> het volgende geschreven:




Hi everybody,

My 480 functions very well except the level indicators work erratically. Sometimes the left stops working sometimes the right. Never both at the same time though. I've re soldered the connections at the indicators still no change. The interesting thing is that with the cover off by touching the wire of one or the other non working indicator it comes back for a while then it goes again after the deck is switched off and back on again.
Another thing is while switching it in the record mode it produces a nasty click. The switch itself has been lubricated and it records and erases well. Both orange caps in the bias oscillator have been changed. Any ideas?
Thanks
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From careljanssen4 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 29 18:22:24 2014
From: careljanssen4 at gmail.com (Carel Janssen)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 18:22:24 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi Amplifier 2 /Nakamichi Cassette deck 2
Message-ID: <CAKBoXiZcdvJ1H3zbSfbwGcjMMdxH4kFi7Ok5T08GFawn45WTGA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

I own an Amplifier 2 + the accompaning remote.
I own a Cassettedeck 2.

The remote suggests that you could use it to command a tape recorder 1 and
a tape recorder 2 through that piece of equipment.
The problem is: how to connect the Amp to the Cassettedeck? What cable
would do that: a specific one or a common one?
Can't find anything in the manual of Amp 2 nor in the one of Cassettedeck 2
about the specs of the connecting cable!
You should see my tears!!!!!

If anyone thinks he/she can be of any help.......do so!

Greetings,

Carel Janssen
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From jphscott at mac.com  Fri Aug 29 18:45:17 2014
From: jphscott at mac.com (John Scott)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 17:45:17 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi Amplifier 2 /Nakamichi Cassette deck 2
In-Reply-To: <CAKBoXiZcdvJ1H3zbSfbwGcjMMdxH4kFi7Ok5T08GFawn45WTGA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKBoXiZcdvJ1H3zbSfbwGcjMMdxH4kFi7Ok5T08GFawn45WTGA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <418C13D3-460C-44CF-957E-D05332CE01DB@mac.com>

It's just a simple cable with 3.5mm stereo jacks at each end.  Plug into Tape 1 or Tape 2 socket on Amp2 and set the toggle on the remote accordingly.


On 29 Aug 2014, at 17:22, Carel Janssen <careljanssen4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> I own an Amplifier 2 + the accompaning remote.
> I own a Cassettedeck 2.
> 
> The remote suggests that you could use it to command a tape recorder 1 and a tape recorder 2 through that piece of equipment.
> The problem is: how to connect the Amp to the Cassettedeck? What cable would do that: a specific one or a common one?
> Can't find anything in the manual of Amp 2 nor in the one of Cassettedeck 2 about the specs of the connecting cable!
> You should see my tears!!!!!
> 
> If anyone thinks he/she can be of any help.......do so!
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Carel Janssen
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From n.van.wijnen at gmail.com  Fri Aug 29 20:50:14 2014
From: n.van.wijnen at gmail.com (Norman van Wijnen)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 20:50:14 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Service manual for ir remote RM580r
Message-ID: <47E8BB3A-7D07-447E-A4C9-D3D3C06EC11E@gmail.com>

Hi all,
Is there somewhere a service manual for the Nakamichi RM580 remote control?
I could not find it and i am working on one unit.

Best regards,

Norman

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From wheijke at xs4all.nl  Fri Aug 29 23:10:46 2014
From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 23:10:46 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Service manual for ir remote RM580r
In-Reply-To: <47E8BB3A-7D07-447E-A4C9-D3D3C06EC11E@gmail.com>
References: <47E8BB3A-7D07-447E-A4C9-D3D3C06EC11E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <70e6c98453edf8507cb6597f7193c764.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>

It's part (back) of a decks service manual, at least that's where I once
noticed it.. maybe 580 series..

Wouter

> Hi all,
> Is there somewhere a service manual for the Nakamichi RM580 remote
> control?
> I could not find it and i am working on one unit.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Norman



From n.van.wijnen at gmail.com  Sat Aug 30 09:26:38 2014
From: n.van.wijnen at gmail.com (Norman van Wijnen)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 09:26:38 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Service manual for ir remote RM580r
In-Reply-To: <70e6c98453edf8507cb6597f7193c764.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
References: <47E8BB3A-7D07-447E-A4C9-D3D3C06EC11E@gmail.com>
 <70e6c98453edf8507cb6597f7193c764.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <28CBA580-4F98-461A-A567-D54674985D6A@gmail.com>

Hi Wouter,
Thanks, you are right, it is in the 581 service manual.
Great.
Best regards,
Norman

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> Op 29 aug. 2014 om 23:10 heeft "Wouter Heijke" <wheijke at xs4all.nl> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> It's part (back) of a decks service manual, at least that's where I once
> noticed it.. maybe 580 series..
> 
> Wouter
> 
>> Hi all,
>> Is there somewhere a service manual for the Nakamichi RM580 remote
>> control?
>> I could not find it and i am working on one unit.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Norman
> 
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From wilsill47 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 30 16:00:45 2014
From: wilsill47 at gmail.com (William Sill)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 10:00:45 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 1000 Equalization adjust & VU meters not
	setting to 0
Message-ID: <CAErWoi3L1mgS1fDek5aWexiq9o5W5K9dKr4MdcDNnSNttxwZ3w@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone, this is my first post. I'm new to the forum.
I just acquired a Nakamichi 1000 is great condition it seems like all
functions working.
2 questions at this point:

1) *VU meters*: When the power is off both meters each channel are set at
'off'.
When I turn on power the the left meter will sit at -40db, but the right
channel will sit at -35 db.
What is causing this ?

Some background: When I first got my 1000 I turned it on and saw both
meters sitting a -20db with power on. I took out the 6 re-moveable circuit
boards. ie: line amp, DNL, Record Dolby, Playback Dolby, Playback amp,
Record amp. I sprayed the contacts with Pro-Gold, and tighten the connector
pins. This got the meters to set to the settings I described above, down
form the -20db. I also notice if I moved the DNL board I would get noise
and sporadic meter readings; I removed the board again and looked closely
and saw a cold solder joint near the top of the board some resistors moving
around. I re soldered now no sporadic meter movements.I was hoping this
would be the cause of the VU meters not totally resetting to infinity.
It was not.
Also: I noticed the plastic board holder had a slight warp and allowed the
boards to move slightly. I made a new holder from a piece of aluminum, I
fitted the new holder the boards now are held now with no movement.

2) *Equalization: *
My 1000 records and plays back well. The tape alignment beacon and
procedure works on both normal and chrome tape.
But every recording I make has a slight brighter sound (high frequency tip
up) than the original source. I am using both Maxell XL II, and Maxell UR
tape.
I think the pre-recorded tapes I have are slightly brighter as well; but
not sure since I only have 2 and no real reference to compare to.

So, how do you adjust the equalization on both record and playback ?
Is this the reason for the brighter recordings ?
I see pots on the tops of the plug in boards..Is it the record/playback AMP.

Thanks everyone for reading thru this, I appreciate any/all help.
Bill
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From gerhard.wartha at utanet.at  Sat Aug 30 16:01:13 2014
From: gerhard.wartha at utanet.at (gerhard wartha)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 16:01:13 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Fwd:  480 problem
References: <D1632BF7-65CB-4AAC-8A65-C8B9A76CAA8E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <508B513F-7A1F-4C59-A30C-1385DD9CAA68@utanet.at>


>
>
>>
>> dear Peter.
>>
>> first give this switch a trail, switch it 30 to 70 times, that  
>> cleans the contacts.
>> If that does not help, you can use chemicals.
>>
>> You can use a spray, while vacuum cleaning the switch at the same  
>> time.
>> Make sure the dust bag in your  vacuum cleaner is not empty.

>> Old dust  absorbs the spray inside  the cleaner.
>> Vacuum  keeps the Deck clean and dry.
>>
>> Gerhard
>>
>>
>> Am 29.08.2014 um 13:21 schrieb Norman van Wijnen:
>>
>>> Hi Peter,
>>>
>>> The large switch on the pcb often become oxidated inside.
>>> This sometimes is the reason for not to good contacts and clicks.
>>> If you are very handy you can desolder the switch , take it apart  
>>> and clean with silver polish.
>>> If you are not that handy you can use deoxide to clean that switch.
>>> Becarefull not to spray to much and beware of deoxide spraying  
>>> inside the transport.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Norman
>>>
>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>>>
>>> Op 29 aug. 2014 om 12:19 heeft Peter Tanner  
>>> <pbtanner at hotmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>>>
>>>> Hi Norman,
>>>>
>>>> It's electronic and on the right channel mainly. The needle  
>>>> swings widely. Also on switching off but not so bad. Both clicks  
>>>> are audible on the recording. And, by the way, I've cleaned and  
>>>> re soldered the leads once again on the peak levels and now they  
>>>> work fine, finally. Both. Must have been a bad wire.
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl
>>>> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 00:31:22 +0200
>>>> To: naktalk at lists.naks.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480 problem
>>>>
>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>> Is the click a electronic click or a mechanical click?
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Norman
>>>>
>>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>>>>
>>>> Op 28 aug. 2014 om 18:36 heeft Peter Tanner  
>>>> <pbtanner at hotmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>>>>
>>>> Hi everybody,
>>>>
>>>> My 480 functions very well except the level indicators work  
>>>> erratically. Sometimes the left stops working sometimes the  
>>>> right. Never both at the same time though. I've re soldered the  
>>>> connections at the indicators still no change. The interesting  
>>>> thing is that with the cover off by touching the wire of one or  
>>>> the other non working indicator it comes back for a while then  
>>>> it goes again after the deck is switched off and back on again.
>>>> Another thing is while switching it in the record mode it  
>>>> produces a nasty click. The switch itself has been lubricated  
>>>> and it records and erases well. Both orange caps in the bias  
>>>> oscillator have been changed. Any ideas?
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Peter
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>>
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>>
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>

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From davidt124 at internode.on.net  Sun Aug 31 10:16:16 2014
From: davidt124 at internode.on.net (David Thompson)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 18:16:16 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] 480 controls
Message-ID: <D02916EF.22C12%davidt124@internode.on.net>

I have a sweet sounding 480 deck working well but I notice that when a tape
ends, the control switch for stop does not click in. The next tape goes
straight into whatever the last setting was ­ Play, Rew or FF. Is this
normal behaviour for the 480?

David 


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From radiocitycab at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 31 11:27:36 2014
From: radiocitycab at yahoo.com (Tim Rusling)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 02:27:36 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] 480 controls
In-Reply-To: <D02916EF.22C12%davidt124@internode.on.net>
References: <D02916EF.22C12%davidt124@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <1409477256.8597.YahooMailNeo@web125201.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

That's how mine works too.
Tim



On Sunday, August 31, 2014 4:24 AM, David Thompson <davidt124 at internode.on.net> wrote:
 


I have a sweet sounding 480 deck working well but I notice that when a tape ends, the control switch for stop does not click in. The next tape goes straight into whatever the last setting was – Play, Rew or FF. Is this normal behaviour for the 480?

David 
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From brainsmartman at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 31 11:49:36 2014
From: brainsmartman at yahoo.com (c n)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 02:49:36 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] 480 controls
In-Reply-To: <D02916EF.22C12%davidt124@internode.on.net>
References: <D02916EF.22C12%davidt124@internode.on.net>
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Yep! 
Very normal, so to do.


On Sunday, August 31, 2014 11:24 AM, David Thompson <davidt124 at internode.on.net> wrote:
 


I have a sweet sounding 480 deck working well but I notice that when a tape ends, the control switch for stop does not click in. The next tape goes straight into whatever the last setting was – Play, Rew or FF. Is this normal behaviour for the 480?

David 
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From paul.kellerman at sbcglobal.net  Sun Aug 31 16:46:26 2014
From: paul.kellerman at sbcglobal.net (Paul Kellerman)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 07:46:26 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Fwd:  480 problem
In-Reply-To: <508B513F-7A1F-4C59-A30C-1385DD9CAA68@utanet.at>
References: <D1632BF7-65CB-4AAC-8A65-C8B9A76CAA8E@gmail.com>
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Anyone know of best upgrade Opamp to use in place of 4558, OP275 works but is not newest generation of high performance OP amps. I have used 2134's with varied results. Any input?



On Saturday, August 30, 2014 10:06 AM, gerhard wartha <gerhard.wartha at utanet.at> wrote:
 





>
>
>
>
>>
dear Peter. 
>>
>>
>>first give this switch a trail, switch it 30 to 70 times, that cleans the contacts.
>>If that does not help, you can use chemicals.
>>
>>
>>You can use a spray, while vacuum cleaning the switch at the same time.
>>Make sure the dust bag in your  vacuum cleaner is not empty. 

Old dust  absorbs the spray inside  the cleaner.
>>Vacuum  keeps the Deck clean and dry.
>>
>>
>>Gerhard 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Am 29.08.2014 um 13:21 schrieb Norman van Wijnen:
>>
>>Hi Peter,
>>>
>>>
>>>The large switch on the pcb often become oxidated inside.
>>>This sometimes is the reason for not to good contacts and clicks.
>>>If you are very handy you can desolder the switch , take it apart and clean with silver polish.
>>>If you are not that handy you can use deoxide to clean that switch.
>>>Becarefull not to spray to much and beware of deoxide spraying inside the transport.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>Norman
>>>
>>>Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>>>
>>>Op 29 aug. 2014 om 12:19 heeft Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>>Hi Norman,
>>>>
>>>>It's electronic and on the right channel mainly. The needle swings widely. Also on switching off but not so bad. Both clicks are audible on the recording. And, by the way, I've cleaned and re soldered the leads once again on the peak levels and now they work fine, finally. Both. Must have been a bad wire.
>>>>Best regards
>>>>Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>________________________________
>>>>From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl
>>>>Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 00:31:22 +0200
>>>>To: naktalk at lists.naks.com
>>>>Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480 problem
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi Peter,
>>>>Is the click a electronic click or a mechanical click?
>>>>Best regards,
>>>>Norman
>>>>
>>>>Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>>>>
>>>>Op 28 aug. 2014 om 18:36 heeft Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>>Hi everybody,
>>>>>
>>>>>My 480 functions very well except the level indicators work erratically. Sometimes the left stops working sometimes the right. Never both at the same time though. I've re soldered the connections at the indicators still no change. The interesting thing is that with the cover off by touching the wire of one or the other non working indicator it comes back for a while then it goes again after the deck is switched off and back on again.
>>>>>Another thing is while switching it in the record mode it produces a nasty click. The switch itself has been lubricated and it records and erases well. Both orange caps in the bias oscillator have been changed. Any ideas?
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>Peter
>>>>> 
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>>
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From umeshchandran.r at gmail.com  Sun Aug 31 19:24:32 2014
From: umeshchandran.r at gmail.com (Umesh R)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 22:54:32 +0530
Subject: [naktalk] Fwd: 480 problem
In-Reply-To: <CALkUgJN6D2=bO6w7MNPH8KL3WoP-d0J-VPA0F3Rp0RhPm3wzwg@mail.gmail.com>
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 <508B513F-7A1F-4C59-A30C-1385DD9CAA68@utanet.at>
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The tone will change if the 4558 is replaced. But if that is the intention,
how about 5532? All the reputed pro audio gear today have them used
liberally from the input buffer till the output
On 31-Aug-2014 8:51 pm, "Paul Kellerman" <paul.kellerman at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

Anyone know of best upgrade Opamp to use in place of 4558, OP275 works but
is not newest generation of high performance OP amps. I have used 2134's
with varied results. Any input?


  On Saturday, August 30, 2014 10:06 AM, gerhard wartha <
gerhard.wartha at utanet.at> wrote:






dear Peter.

first give this switch a trail, switch it 30 to 70 times, that cleans the
contacts.
If that does not help, you can use chemicals.

You can use a spray, while vacuum cleaning the switch at the same time.
Make sure the dust bag in your  vacuum cleaner is not empty.


Old dust  absorbs the spray inside  the cleaner.
Vacuum  keeps the Deck clean and dry.

Gerhard


Am 29.08.2014 um 13:21 schrieb Norman van Wijnen:

Hi Peter,

The large switch on the pcb often become oxidated inside.
This sometimes is the reason for not to good contacts and clicks.
If you are very handy you can desolder the switch , take it apart and clean
with silver polish.
If you are not that handy you can use deoxide to clean that switch.
Becarefull not to spray to much and beware of deoxide spraying inside the
transport.


Best regards,

Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

Op 29 aug. 2014 om 12:19 heeft Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com> het
volgende geschreven:

Hi Norman,

It's electronic and on the right channel mainly. The needle swings widely.
Also on switching off but not so bad. Both clicks are audible on the
recording. And, by the way, I've cleaned and re soldered the leads once
again on the peak levels and now they work fine, finally. Both. Must have
been a bad wire.
Best regards
Peter


------------------------------
From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 00:31:22 +0200
To: naktalk at lists.naks.com
Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480 problem

Hi Peter,
Is the click a electronic click or a mechanical click?
Best regards,
Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

Op 28 aug. 2014 om 18:36 heeft Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com> het
volgende geschreven:

Hi everybody,

My 480 functions very well except the level indicators work erratically.
Sometimes the left stops working sometimes the right. Never both at the
same time though. I've re soldered the connections at the indicators still
no change. The interesting thing is that with the cover off by touching the
wire of one or the other non working indicator it comes back for a while
then it goes again after the deck is switched off and back on again.
Another thing is while switching it in the record mode it produces a nasty
click. The switch itself has been lubricated and it records and erases
well. Both orange caps in the bias oscillator have been changed. Any ideas?
Thanks
Peter

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| Mobil.0650/5266705



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From perry.nak at comcast.net  Sun Aug 31 21:37:22 2014
From: perry.nak at comcast.net (perry.nak at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 19:37:22 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [naktalk] EARLY 700 Service Manual? Download problem?
In-Reply-To: <776446775.10314411.1409511743166.JavaMail.root@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <579970724.10324332.1409513842651.JavaMail.root@comcast.net>

Working on a very early model of the 700, a 370 prefix unit, serial number 1053. I can not find a Service Manual that covers this early range. WHen I try to download the 700 SM from here, it just keeps saying "Waiting for www.naks.com" . Earliest I found elsewhere is starting at 5511, and the motor governor PCB is totally different. Whenever the governor PCB is connected to the +12VDC, it drags the whole bus down to under 6VDC and eventually kills a transistor in the power supply. Makes it hard to trouble shoot the other problems it has, which is so many, it may not be fixable! I've disconnected that power wire for now, but I had to peel apart the touch button assembly as 4 of the buttons were always "ON", due to corrosion around the traces. Oddly, the resistance of the traces on the control panel touch buttons is very high. Pressing a button and measuring the resistance att he connector when removed, it goes from "open" to anywhere from 6 to 20Megohm as "closed"!! Since this is the first one I've worked on, does anyone know if this is normal? When I apply the 12VDC with the governor board disconnected relay 602 (FF) immediately picks up, and both the FF and REW lights momentarily flash, even with the pushbuttons disconnected. I'm sure I need to recap the unit, and already did the powers upply and govenor boards (try the easy stuff first) will start next with the logic board where the relays are located. 
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From wheijke at xs4all.nl  Sun Aug 31 23:27:45 2014
From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 23:27:45 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] EARLY 700 Service Manual? Download problem?
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Message-ID: <f6045e5ceaa64449516062d5337be1c2.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>

Just about the 'waiting'.. I downloaded everything service oriented from
the wiki's (see link at bottom of each message) official documents page
without any problem.

Download is from US data center and Im in Europe even...

Wouter

> Working on a very early model of the 700, a 370 prefix unit, serial number
> 1053. I can not find a Service Manual that covers this early range. WHen I
> try to download the 700 SM from here, it just keeps saying "Waiting for
> www.naks.com" . Earliest I found elsewhere is starting at 5511, and the







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From jean-jerome.prejean at orange.fr  Mon Dec  8 14:28:01 2014
From: jean-jerome.prejean at orange.fr (Prejean)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 14:28:01 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Brace reel holder
Message-ID: <853787EE-3688-47B2-A27C-D4B239DC83B1@orange.fr>

Hello 
I am seeking help for a broken part
Fixing the reel of a 1000 type II
It ls made of plastic and looks like
a circle forked
Best regards

Envoyé de mon iPhone

From n.van.wijnen at gmail.com  Tue Dec  9 23:41:04 2014
From: n.van.wijnen at gmail.com (Norman van Wijnen)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 23:41:04 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Service manual for Nakamichi Tuner2
Message-ID: <85997C18-2AFA-40E4-A625-DE7E912E3900@gmail.com>

Hi guys,
Is there someone with a service manual for the Nakamichi tuner 2?
Best regards,

Norman

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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 12 10:03:59 2014
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 09:03:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [naktalk] 2SC954 Replacement
Message-ID: <1537485096.134154.1418375039108.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10743.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Gents, 
What is a good replacement for this transistor (2SC945) ? 
Regards, Bala Ganesh 
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From davidt124 at internode.on.net  Fri Dec 12 10:55:24 2014
From: davidt124 at internode.on.net (David Thompson)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 19:55:24 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] 2SC954 Replacement
In-Reply-To: <1537485096.134154.1418375039108.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10743.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Bala

I have two spares of those if you are stuck for one or two.

David 

From:  Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com>
Reply-To:  Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com>, Naktalk <naktalk at lists.naks.com>
Date:  Friday, 12 December 2014 7:03 pm
To:  Naktalk <naktalk at lists.naks.com>
Subject:  [naktalk] 2SC954 Replacement

Gents, 

What is a good replacement for this transistor (2SC945) ?

Regards, 
Bala Ganesh 
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From davidt124 at internode.on.net  Tue Dec 16 12:04:27 2014
From: davidt124 at internode.on.net (David Thompson)
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 21:04:27 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] Nak 480 part
Message-ID: <D0B64EDB.265A1%davidt124@internode.on.net>

I need a plastic part for a 480 deck. It is the power switch joint bar that
sits between the Power button on the front panel and the actual switch at
the back of the deck. My one is brittle and part of the end has broken off.
Would anyone have a spare please? I am in Australia.

David


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From wbendler at sbcglobal.net  Tue Dec 16 17:41:52 2014
From: wbendler at sbcglobal.net (Warren Bendler)
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 08:41:52 -0800
Subject: [naktalk] Nak 480 part
In-Reply-To: <D0B64EDB.265A1%davidt124@internode.on.net>
References: <D0B64EDB.265A1%davidt124@internode.on.net>
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There is an easy way to fix this without replacing the bar.  You form a tube around the bar and button to support it, and glue it with epoxy. You can use heat shrinkable tubing or a piece of rubber hose or neoprene tubing. You can also use flexible metal, like brass, copper or tin.


Warren



On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:28 AM, David Thompson <davidt124 at internode.on.net> wrote:
 


I need a plastic part for a 480 deck. It is the power switch joint bar that sits between the Power button on the front panel and the actual switch at the back of the deck. My one is brittle and part of the end has broken off. Would anyone have a spare please? I am in Australia.

David
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From gerhard.wartha at gmail.com  Tue Dec 16 18:35:37 2014
From: gerhard.wartha at gmail.com (Gerhard Wartha)
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 18:35:37 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] 480 part.
Message-ID: <346B9B8E-E252-49FF-8B8B-E5F1E5472E24@gmail.com>


Hi David,

Please make and send  a photo from the SERVICE MANUAL or  from this  
480 part.

I think I have this part, just want to make sure.

If you pay shipping to Australia, you can get this part.

kind regards

Gerhard



From davidt124 at internode.on.net  Tue Dec 16 23:28:13 2014
From: davidt124 at internode.on.net (David Thompson)
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 08:28:13 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] Nak 480 part
In-Reply-To: <1418748112.40557.YahooMailNeo@web185403.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <D0B64EDB.265A1%davidt124@internode.on.net>
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Warren
That is a great idea for the time being and I have used a sleeve of tubing
to hold it. It looks like Gerhard will be able to supply a replacement.
David

From:  Warren Bendler <wbendler at sbcglobal.net>
Reply-To:  Warren Bendler <wbendler at sbcglobal.net>, Naktalk
<naktalk at lists.naks.com>
Date:  Wednesday, 17 December 2014 2:41 am
To:  Naktalk <naktalk at lists.naks.com>
Subject:  Re: [naktalk] Nak 480 part

There is an easy way to fix this without replacing the bar.  You form a tube
around the bar and button to support it, and glue it with epoxy. You can use
heat shrinkable tubing or a piece of rubber hose or neoprene tubing. You can
also use flexible metal, like brass, copper or tin.

Warren
 


 
 
 
  On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:28 AM, David Thompson
<davidt124 at internode.on.net> wrote:
  
  

 
I need a plastic part for a 480 deck. It is the power switch joint bar that
sits between the Power button on the front panel and the actual switch at
the back of the deck. My one is brittle and part of the end has broken off.
Would anyone have a spare please? I am in Australia.

David

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From n.van.wijnen at gmail.com  Thu Dec 18 09:07:29 2014
From: n.van.wijnen at gmail.com (Norman van Wijnen)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 09:07:29 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Belt size
Message-ID: <DD3B7EFC-A61D-4AB9-87AF-A0606C7CA0A3@gmail.com>

Hi Guys,
Is there someone who has the exact capstan belt sizes of our different Nakamichi decks?

Best regards,

Norman


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From echo at techno-link.com  Thu Dec 18 12:13:19 2014
From: echo at techno-link.com (VLADO ANGELOV)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 13:13:19 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk Digest, Vol 141, Issue 5
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Hi,

I'd be most grateful if anyone can supply more detailed data for Nak belts.
Most interesting are the flat drive belts.
RGDS, Vlado

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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 09:07:29 +0100
From: Norman van Wijnen <n.van.wijnen at gmail.com>
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at lists.naks.com>
Subject: [naktalk] Belt size
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Hi Guys,
Is there someone who has the exact capstan belt sizes of our different Nakamichi decks?

Best regards,

Norman


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From perry.nak at comcast.net  Thu Dec 18 12:59:36 2014
From: perry.nak at comcast.net (Perry Esposito)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 06:59:36 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Capstan Belt sizes
Message-ID: <243C36B3-D306-4B3F-81A7-48EEDEEBB59B@comcast.net>

I don't think there is a real  definitive list of sizes, because no one can agree on exactly how to measure overall diameter. 

Thickness and width are known, but even the slightest amount of stretch or compression due to age (used or unused) makes it very difficult to pinpoint. 
More importantly, and always missed in discussion, is two absolutely identically sized belts constructed of  two different compounds yield
Vastly different W&F readings, and no one knows what the correct compound and actual elastic 
Characteristics are of the original belts. 

Sent from Perry Esposito via iPhone

From n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl  Thu Dec 18 15:15:59 2014
From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl (Ziggo)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 15:15:59 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Capstan Belt sizes
In-Reply-To: <243C36B3-D306-4B3F-81A7-48EEDEEBB59B@comcast.net>
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Hi Perry,
That is exactly the reason of my question.
I am working on a RX505 this time and the new belt placed inside this machine does not do the job. The tape is skewing. I did the complete calibration job with all the gauges , uses the right oil inside the capstan bearings, replaced the rollers and still the tape is skewing.
The belts i am using gives me good results on the earlier versions of the classic transport so far. Reading the service manual the belts for the 480 series and the rx505 deck are identical.
The only way to get rid of the tape skewing is mounting a belt with a little smaller overall diameter.
The belts are incredible important in the Nakamichi transports much much more then i ever realise.
I found it strange that this is the second RX505 on my bench with these problems .
Today i ordered the belts from Fred. I will let you know how that will perform on this one.

Best regards,
Norman

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> Op 18 dec. 2014 om 12:59 heeft Perry Esposito <perry.nak at comcast.net> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> I don't think there is a real  definitive list of sizes, because no one can agree on exactly how to measure overall diameter. 
> 
> Thickness and width are known, but even the slightest amount of stretch or compression due to age (used or unused) makes it very difficult to pinpoint. 
> More importantly, and always missed in discussion, is two absolutely identically sized belts constructed of  two different compounds yield
> Vastly different W&F readings, and no one knows what the correct compound and actual elastic 
> Characteristics are of the original belts. 
> 
> Sent from Perry Esposito via iPhone
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From paer.ericsson at blixtmail.se  Thu Dec 18 16:20:32 2014
From: paer.ericsson at blixtmail.se (=?UTF-8?Q?P=C3=A4r_Ericsson?=)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 16:20:32 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Capstan Belt sizes
In-Reply-To: <BEBC3083-13B6-4809-A031-0E446A6A6934@ziggo.nl>
References: <243C36B3-D306-4B3F-81A7-48EEDEEBB59B@comcast.net>
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Hi Norman,

I also had a similar problem problem when I restored a 505. What I did was 
replacing the original capstan/flywheel assy
which had the dull flat surface on the capstan, with a capstan set from an 
old scrapped 480. That trick did work fine for me and
after replacment I had no problems with tape travelling sideways over the 
head.

Regards Pelle.

-----Ursprungligt meddelande----- 
From: Ziggo
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 3:15 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Capstan Belt sizes

Hi Perry,
That is exactly the reason of my question.
I am working on a RX505 this time and the new belt placed inside this 
machine does not do the job. The tape is skewing. I did the complete 
calibration job with all the gauges , uses the right oil inside the capstan 
bearings, replaced the rollers and still the tape is skewing.
The belts i am using gives me good results on the earlier versions of the 
classic transport so far. Reading the service manual the belts for the 480 
series and the rx505 deck are identical.
The only way to get rid of the tape skewing is mounting a belt with a little 
smaller overall diameter.
The belts are incredible important in the Nakamichi transports much much 
more then i ever realise.
I found it strange that this is the second RX505 on my bench with these 
problems .
Today i ordered the belts from Fred. I will let you know how that will 
perform on this one.

Best regards,
Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

> Op 18 dec. 2014 om 12:59 heeft Perry Esposito <perry.nak at comcast.net> het 
> volgende geschreven:
>
> I don't think there is a real  definitive list of sizes, because no one 
> can agree on exactly how to measure overall diameter.
>
> Thickness and width are known, but even the slightest amount of stretch or 
> compression due to age (used or unused) makes it very difficult to 
> pinpoint.
> More importantly, and always missed in discussion, is two absolutely 
> identically sized belts constructed of  two different compounds yield
> Vastly different W&F readings, and no one knows what the correct compound 
> and actual elastic
> Characteristics are of the original belts.
>
> Sent from Perry Esposito via iPhone
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From n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl  Thu Dec 18 16:47:22 2014
From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl (Ziggo)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 16:47:22 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Capstan Belt sizes
In-Reply-To: <4E5FCC8B5E094246A6C65F07453C5C7B@Mobile>
References: <243C36B3-D306-4B3F-81A7-48EEDEEBB59B@comcast.net>
 <BEBC3083-13B6-4809-A031-0E446A6A6934@ziggo.nl>
 <4E5FCC8B5E094246A6C65F07453C5C7B@Mobile>
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Hi Pelle,

That is a very good idea. I will try that option this evening. 
It looks as if the special surface on that flywheel delivers other torque or something like that.
I did expect that Nakamichi uses another belt on the modified transport but that is not the case.
I will let you know the results.

Thanks,

Norman


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> Op 18 dec. 2014 om 16:20 heeft Pär Ericsson <paer.ericsson at blixtmail.se> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi Norman,
> 
> I also had a similar problem problem when I restored a 505. What I did was replacing the original capstan/flywheel assy
> which had the dull flat surface on the capstan, with a capstan set from an old scrapped 480. That trick did work fine for me and
> after replacment I had no problems with tape travelling sideways over the head.
> 
> Regards Pelle.
> 
> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- From: Ziggo
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 3:15 PM
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Capstan Belt sizes
> 
> Hi Perry,
> That is exactly the reason of my question.
> I am working on a RX505 this time and the new belt placed inside this machine does not do the job. The tape is skewing. I did the complete calibration job with all the gauges , uses the right oil inside the capstan bearings, replaced the rollers and still the tape is skewing.
> The belts i am using gives me good results on the earlier versions of the classic transport so far. Reading the service manual the belts for the 480 series and the rx505 deck are identical.
> The only way to get rid of the tape skewing is mounting a belt with a little smaller overall diameter.
> The belts are incredible important in the Nakamichi transports much much more then i ever realise.
> I found it strange that this is the second RX505 on my bench with these problems .
> Today i ordered the belts from Fred. I will let you know how that will perform on this one.
> 
> Best regards,
> Norman
> 
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
> 
>> Op 18 dec. 2014 om 12:59 heeft Perry Esposito <perry.nak at comcast.net> het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> I don't think there is a real  definitive list of sizes, because no one can agree on exactly how to measure overall diameter.
>> 
>> Thickness and width are known, but even the slightest amount of stretch or compression due to age (used or unused) makes it very difficult to pinpoint.
>> More importantly, and always missed in discussion, is two absolutely identically sized belts constructed of  two different compounds yield
>> Vastly different W&F readings, and no one knows what the correct compound and actual elastic
>> Characteristics are of the original belts.
>> 
>> Sent from Perry Esposito via iPhone
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From perry.nak at comcast.net  Fri Dec 19 13:03:22 2014
From: perry.nak at comcast.net (Perry Esposito)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 07:03:22 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Classic transport belt sizes
Message-ID: <1D18F94A-A543-4DB1-8B11-5AAE4595FEAC@comcast.net>

Hi Norman,
To say that the belt size is critical on the classic transport is a vast understatement. The correct belt makes or breaks its performance and sadly this has opened up a whole can of worms in the past and likely again in the future. When I first joined Naktalk a few years ago, I went back read every single archived post, to learn everything that I could. 

There is a few month section, when Fred first started having belts made, where virtually all the posts are arguments about the 4096D belt size.  You can find all the dimensions in that archive. 

I buy a fair amount of belts from Fred, for all kinds of decks, since the only other source for the correct Nak belts, ESL, appears to only sell certain belts, not the 4096D, and then, not to anyone that sells or repairs decks. 

This is a sound business decision, as they only have a limited supply for the repair of their own decks, which are a huge part of their business. I would do the exact same thing in their shoes.

 What I have found is that the most minor changes in belt thickness and cross section affect performance of W&F, speed differential beginning to end, bearing noise, etc, but not tape skew. 

 I'm sure this is not new to you at all, and why you are asking about it now. 
If the skew is fixed by using a tighter belt, then the amount of thrust the flywheels are exerting against the thrust bearing, and the true shape and angle of the capstan emerging from the bearing, must be changing due to different side loadings.
 Changing to different flywheels or a polished interface will
change that as well so it may fix the issue as a coincidental result, but worn bearings are usually the cause in this instance. 

Normally a tighter belt always gives much poorer performance until it is too loose to maintain a constant grip. 

Fred had a bad batch of 4096D2 belts where the cross sectional thickness varied and gave poor performance (W&F greater than 0.15%)

The last batch I got from him was better, but still too thick,
though far thinner and closer dimensionally, than  any generic source, which all agree are useless. 

There is a constant struggle to have the belts made as thin as the standard transport often requires. His are the closest readily available. Fred also sells a very slightly longer belt, the number of which escapes me, for an Aiwa transport, that often works better. 

What I have found, and I'm sure other will chime in, after working on many different versions of the standard transport on any different models, is that some apparently extremely similar transports are simply far more sensitive to the capstan belt than others. 

It is frustrating, annoying, and often disheartening, and as has been suggested, sometimes swapping parts helps the issue, other times makes it worse. 

This problem only seems to truly manifest itself in the all belt drive dual capstan standard transport versions. 
Which of course covers most of everyone's favorite decks. 

Sent from Perry via iPhone

From n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl  Sat Dec 20 11:01:01 2014
From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl (Ziggo)
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 11:01:01 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Classic transport belt sizes
In-Reply-To: <1D18F94A-A543-4DB1-8B11-5AAE4595FEAC@comcast.net>
References: <1D18F94A-A543-4DB1-8B11-5AAE4595FEAC@comcast.net>
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Hi Perry,

Thanks for your info sharing with me.  It is certainly not my intention to do the belt discussion over again. I am very happy that Fred makes this belts that is for sure.
it is difficult for me to understand why some classic transports do have other behavior then other classic transport. As you mentioned sometimes there are transports who do not work as expected. Mounting a smaller belt is not an option for me but it describes the behaviour of my RX505 transport.
Yesterday i get a intresting suggestion from our former repairman working in the past at the distributor from Nakamichi here in the Netherlands. He confirm that some transports are more sensitive for a good tape transport but not only because of the belt.
I will try his suggestion and let you know the results.

Best regards

Norman



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> Op 19 dec. 2014 om 13:03 heeft Perry Esposito <perry.nak at comcast.net> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi Norman,
> To say that the belt size is critical on the classic transport is a vast understatement. The correct belt makes or breaks its performance and sadly this has opened up a whole can of worms in the past and likely again in the future. When I first joined Naktalk a few years ago, I went back read every single archived post, to learn everything that I could. 
> 
> There is a few month section, when Fred first started having belts made, where virtually all the posts are arguments about the 4096D belt size.  You can find all the dimensions in that archive. 
> 
> I buy a fair amount of belts from Fred, for all kinds of decks, since the only other source for the correct Nak belts, ESL, appears to only sell certain belts, not the 4096D, and then, not to anyone that sells or repairs decks. 
> 
> This is a sound business decision, as they only have a limited supply for the repair of their own decks, which are a huge part of their business. I would do the exact same thing in their shoes.
> 
> What I have found is that the most minor changes in belt thickness and cross section affect performance of W&F, speed differential beginning to end, bearing noise, etc, but not tape skew. 
> 
> I'm sure this is not new to you at all, and why you are asking about it now. 
> If the skew is fixed by using a tighter belt, then the amount of thrust the flywheels are exerting against the thrust bearing, and the true shape and angle of the capstan emerging from the bearing, must be changing due to different side loadings.
> Changing to different flywheels or a polished interface will
> change that as well so it may fix the issue as a coincidental result, but worn bearings are usually the cause in this instance. 
> 
> Normally a tighter belt always gives much poorer performance until it is too loose to maintain a constant grip. 
> 
> Fred had a bad batch of 4096D2 belts where the cross sectional thickness varied and gave poor performance (W&F greater than 0.15%)
> 
> The last batch I got from him was better, but still too thick,
> though far thinner and closer dimensionally, than  any generic source, which all agree are useless. 
> 
> There is a constant struggle to have the belts made as thin as the standard transport often requires. His are the closest readily available. Fred also sells a very slightly longer belt, the number of which escapes me, for an Aiwa transport, that often works better. 
> 
> What I have found, and I'm sure other will chime in, after working on many different versions of the standard transport on any different models, is that some apparently extremely similar transports are simply far more sensitive to the capstan belt than others. 
> 
> It is frustrating, annoying, and often disheartening, and as has been suggested, sometimes swapping parts helps the issue, other times makes it worse. 
> 
> This problem only seems to truly manifest itself in the all belt drive dual capstan standard transport versions. 
> Which of course covers most of everyone's favorite decks. 
> 
> Sent from Perry via iPhone
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From cartrite at optusnet.com.au  Sat Dec 20 11:35:55 2014
From: cartrite at optusnet.com.au (Cartrite Coins)
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 21:35:55 +1100
Subject: [naktalk] Belt size
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......to all Naktalkers that celebrate Xmas, have a happy & safe one....Bas.



From davidt124 at internode.on.net  Sun Dec 21 10:55:53 2014
From: davidt124 at internode.on.net (David Thompson)
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 19:55:53 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] Capstan Belt sizes
In-Reply-To: <BEBC3083-13B6-4809-A031-0E446A6A6934@ziggo.nl>
References: <243C36B3-D306-4B3F-81A7-48EEDEEBB59B@comcast.net>
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Jeff Galin recommends cleaning capstan belts with "a good non-alcohol, no
residue tape head cleaning solvent like n-hexane!  Do not spray it into
the machine.  Apply and scrub with a wood stick cotton swab only.²
It worked well on my ZX9 with one of his belts.

David

On 19/12/2014 12:15 am, "Ziggo" <n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl> wrote:

>Hi Perry,
>That is exactly the reason of my question.
>I am working on a RX505 this time and the new belt placed inside this
>machine does not do the job. The tape is skewing. I did the complete
>calibration job with all the gauges , uses the right oil inside the
>capstan bearings, replaced the rollers and still the tape is skewing.
>The belts i am using gives me good results on the earlier versions of the
>classic transport so far. Reading the service manual the belts for the
>480 series and the rx505 deck are identical.
>The only way to get rid of the tape skewing is mounting a belt with a
>little smaller overall diameter.
>The belts are incredible important in the Nakamichi transports much much
>more then i ever realise.
>I found it strange that this is the second RX505 on my bench with these
>problems .
>Today i ordered the belts from Fred. I will let you know how that will
>perform on this one.
>
>Best regards,
>Norman
>
>Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>
>> Op 18 dec. 2014 om 12:59 heeft Perry Esposito <perry.nak at comcast.net>
>>het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> I don't think there is a real  definitive list of sizes, because no one
>>can agree on exactly how to measure overall diameter.
>> 
>> Thickness and width are known, but even the slightest amount of stretch
>>or compression due to age (used or unused) makes it very difficult to
>>pinpoint. 
>> More importantly, and always missed in discussion, is two absolutely
>>identically sized belts constructed of  two different compounds yield
>> Vastly different W&F readings, and no one knows what the correct
>>compound and actual elastic
>> Characteristics are of the original belts.
>> 
>> Sent from Perry Esposito via iPhone
>> 
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From jmlevitz at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 21 13:55:16 2014
From: jmlevitz at yahoo.com (Jayson Levitz)
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:55:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [naktalk] Capstan Belt sizes
In-Reply-To: <D0BCD599.5C08%davidt124@internode.on.net>
References: <D0BCD599.5C08%davidt124@internode.on.net>
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S-721H from American Recorder is such a cleaner. 

Jayson
 

     On Sunday, December 21, 2014 5:37 AM, David Thompson <davidt124 at internode.on.net> wrote:
   

 Jeff Galin recommends cleaning capstan belts with "a good non-alcohol, no
residue tape head cleaning solvent like n-hexane!  Do not spray it into
the machine.  Apply and scrub with a wood stick cotton swab only.²
It worked well on my ZX9 with one of his belts.

David

On 19/12/2014 12:15 am, "Ziggo" <n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl> wrote:

>Hi Perry,
>That is exactly the reason of my question.
>I am working on a RX505 this time and the new belt placed inside this
>machine does not do the job. The tape is skewing. I did the complete
>calibration job with all the gauges , uses the right oil inside the
>capstan bearings, replaced the rollers and still the tape is skewing.
>The belts i am using gives me good results on the earlier versions of the
>classic transport so far. Reading the service manual the belts for the
>480 series and the rx505 deck are identical.
>The only way to get rid of the tape skewing is mounting a belt with a
>little smaller overall diameter.
>The belts are incredible important in the Nakamichi transports much much
>more then i ever realise.
>I found it strange that this is the second RX505 on my bench with these
>problems .
>Today i ordered the belts from Fred. I will let you know how that will
>perform on this one.
>
>Best regards,
>Norman
>
>Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>
>> Op 18 dec. 2014 om 12:59 heeft Perry Esposito <perry.nak at comcast.net>
>>het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> I don't think there is a real  definitive list of sizes, because no one
>>can agree on exactly how to measure overall diameter.
>> 
>> Thickness and width are known, but even the slightest amount of stretch
>>or compression due to age (used or unused) makes it very difficult to
>>pinpoint. 
>> More importantly, and always missed in discussion, is two absolutely
>>identically sized belts constructed of  two different compounds yield
>> Vastly different W&F readings, and no one knows what the correct
>>compound and actual elastic
>> Characteristics are of the original belts.
>> 
>> Sent from Perry Esposito via iPhone
>> 
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From r1seals at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 21 20:34:25 2014
From: r1seals at yahoo.com (Russ Seals)
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 19:34:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [naktalk] BX-300E Bias Knob needed
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yea i need one two 
Russ
 

     On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 1:36 AM, bb <bernard.boitrel at gmail.com> wrote:
   

 Hi everybody,

That's a long time I did not post but still working to save maltreated  
Naks.

I am currently looking for the outer part of a BX-300E bias knob (the 
pitch control one being the same). Would someone have one ?

Regards
Bernard
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From nakamichi at marrscom.com  Sun Dec 21 20:38:32 2014
From: nakamichi at marrscom.com (Fred Marrs)
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 13:38:32 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] 12-21-14 NAKAMICHI CLASSIC TRANSPORT FACTORY CAPSTAN BELTS
Message-ID: <549721B8.3000402@marrscom.com>



Hello Naktalk members,

It has been quite some time since I posted here on Naktalk.


Prior to having the custom Nakamichi Capstans manufactured, approximately

2 years of research took place on the I.C.(Inside Circumference)

of capstans for All Nakamichi Models.

The sizes chosen were made using N.O.S. Nakamichi Capstan Belts AND

N.O.S., Capstans removed from working and non-working machines.

All Nakamichi Capstan belts are still being produced using the Original

sizes, and the *SAME* belt compounds. Repeat, compounds have *NOT* changed.

Compound and Thickness have the most effect on flexibility.


Skewing seems to be common problem on the ZX-9 OCO-80334A .235 X .018 
(original N.O.S.)

This Problem can be resolved by using a "narrow" belt with other 
dimensions remaining 'very close' to the 80334-D3.


The narrow belt is referred to as the (D-3*n*), but is not referenced on 
my website.

The (D-3*n*) is only used, when the customer has a skewing problem with 
the regular (D3).


( I had some 8096-D2 produced here in the *USA* that were total junk and 
trashed ).


Belt manufacturers no longer want to produce belts thinner than .020 .

This prevent inconstant thickness around the circumference of the Belt.

This was the problem with my defective D2's replaced by Japan.



*FACT *


"Some" repair centers Use And *Ship* the 82702-D1, in place of the 8096-D2

for the 480, 680, LX, RX, ZXE and ZXL which will *NOT* Work for LONG.

(Too large in I.C. )



*CURRENT STATUS*


Marrs has recovered from the D2 order backlog, has *added* personnel and 
has shipped

*Within* 4 Business Days at 100% order fill, on All Brands for the past 
60 Days !


**********************************************                                
7,061 Kits Made and Shipped since March 2014

***********************************************                                      
26,843** BELTS IN STOCK


*

*Things to remember about Marrs*


Straight Talk with no *B.S.*


Any *Factory* Belt that fails to meet Nakamichi wow/flutter 
specifications on YOUR MACHINE

will be replaced at NO CHARGE excluding postage *IF,* your transport has 
been fully serviced, _ no questions ask.


Defective belts must be returned to Marrs, for return to Japan.



*SERVICE CENTERS DISCOUNT 20%*


The *service*@marrscom.com , email is available for Repair Centers.

Using this email will expedite order processing and shipment

and reduce turnaround on waiting repair jobs. *

*Service Center orders *have* Priority.

























From n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl  Sun Dec 21 22:25:11 2014
From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl (Ziggo)
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 22:25:11 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] 12-21-14 NAKAMICHI CLASSIC TRANSPORT FACTORY CAPSTAN
	BELTS
In-Reply-To: <549721B8.3000402@marrscom.com>
References: <549721B8.3000402@marrscom.com>
Message-ID: <24310577-B66A-4D98-AC43-8FE6E0C22968@ziggo.nl>

Thanks Fred for the good work.
I wonder if it is possible to let the manufacturer of the belts also make new rollers?
The quality of the rollers coming from germany on ebay are not good enough.
 
Best regards,
Norman

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> Op 21 dec. 2014 om 20:38 heeft Fred Marrs <nakamichi at marrscom.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> 
> 
> Hello Naktalk members,
> 
> It has been quite some time since I posted here on Naktalk.
> 
> 
> Prior to having the custom Nakamichi Capstans manufactured, approximately
> 
> 2 years of research took place on the I.C.(Inside Circumference)
> 
> of capstans for All Nakamichi Models.
> 
> The sizes chosen were made using N.O.S. Nakamichi Capstan Belts AND
> 
> N.O.S., Capstans removed from working and non-working machines.
> 
> All Nakamichi Capstan belts are still being produced using the Original
> 
> sizes, and the *SAME* belt compounds. Repeat, compounds have *NOT* changed.
> 
> Compound and Thickness have the most effect on flexibility.
> 
> 
> Skewing seems to be common problem on the ZX-9 OCO-80334A .235 X .018 (original N.O.S.)
> 
> This Problem can be resolved by using a "narrow" belt with other dimensions remaining 'very close' to the 80334-D3.
> 
> 
> The narrow belt is referred to as the (D-3*n*), but is not referenced on my website.
> 
> The (D-3*n*) is only used, when the customer has a skewing problem with the regular (D3).
> 
> 
> ( I had some 8096-D2 produced here in the *USA* that were total junk and trashed ).
> 
> 
> Belt manufacturers no longer want to produce belts thinner than .020 .
> 
> This prevent inconstant thickness around the circumference of the Belt.
> 
> This was the problem with my defective D2's replaced by Japan.
> 
> 
> 
> *FACT *
> 
> 
> "Some" repair centers Use And *Ship* the 82702-D1, in place of the 8096-D2
> 
> for the 480, 680, LX, RX, ZXE and ZXL which will *NOT* Work for LONG.
> 
> (Too large in I.C. )
> 
> 
> 
> *CURRENT STATUS*
> 
> 
> Marrs has recovered from the D2 order backlog, has *added* personnel and has shipped
> 
> *Within* 4 Business Days at 100% order fill, on All Brands for the past 60 Days !
> 
> 
> **********************************************                                7,061 Kits Made and Shipped since March 2014
> 
> ***********************************************                                      26,843** BELTS IN STOCK
> 
> 
> *
> 
> *Things to remember about Marrs*
> 
> 
> Straight Talk with no *B.S.*
> 
> 
> Any *Factory* Belt that fails to meet Nakamichi wow/flutter specifications on YOUR MACHINE
> 
> will be replaced at NO CHARGE excluding postage *IF,* your transport has been fully serviced, _ no questions ask.
> 
> 
> Defective belts must be returned to Marrs, for return to Japan.
> 
> 
> 
> *SERVICE CENTERS DISCOUNT 20%*
> 
> 
> The *service*@marrscom.com , email is available for Repair Centers.
> 
> Using this email will expedite order processing and shipment
> 
> and reduce turnaround on waiting repair jobs. *
> 
> *Service Center orders *have* Priority.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From perry.nak at comcast.net  Mon Dec 22 12:23:45 2014
From: perry.nak at comcast.net (Perry Esposito)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 06:23:45 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Replacement Nakamichi Rollers
Message-ID: <5AD22E89-BFC3-4ACD-A82A-53FB244ED366@comcast.net>

Since Nakamichi used sintered bronze hubs on the standard and older transport, they can be rebuilt by Terry Witt Rubber Rollers (look online) in Michigan, to better than OE specs. I have them done occasionally by Terry for Naks with shot rollers and all the time for my Revox and Tandberg pressure rollers which all must be rerubbered to get any performance. He charges $70usd the pair+ $5 return shipping in the US. He does, however, require money orders, so I don't know if someone can deal with him from overseas, due to that. In a pinch you could send your good cores to me, and I would have them rebuilt and sent back to you. He can not rerubber nylon/plastic hub rollers. 

Sent from Perry Esposito via iPhone

From wotbob01 at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 22 19:53:30 2014
From: wotbob01 at yahoo.com (Bob Naylor)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 18:53:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [naktalk] 12-21-14 NAKAMICHI CLASSIC TRANSPORT FACTORY CAPSTAN
 BELTS
In-Reply-To: <549721B8.3000402@marrscom.com>
References: <549721B8.3000402@marrscom.com>
Message-ID: <1822958140.178945.1419274410592.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10041.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Fred, Glad you're still around and OK! DIi you get an antenna up yet? I moved and now have a better antenna so should work well from No. California to Texas.Have a Merry Christmas!Bob N

      From: Fred Marrs <nakamichi at marrscom.com>
 To: Nak Post <naktalk at lists.naks.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014 11:38 AM
 Subject: [naktalk] 12-21-14 NAKAMICHI CLASSIC TRANSPORT FACTORY CAPSTAN BELTS
   


Hello Naktalk members,

It has been quite some time since I posted here on Naktalk.


Prior to having the custom Nakamichi Capstans manufactured, approximately

2 years of research took place on the I.C.(Inside Circumference)

of capstans for All Nakamichi Models.

The sizes chosen were made using N.O.S. Nakamichi Capstan Belts AND

N.O.S., Capstans removed from working and non-working machines.

All Nakamichi Capstan belts are still being produced using the Original

sizes, and the *SAME* belt compounds. Repeat, compounds have *NOT* changed.

Compound and Thickness have the most effect on flexibility.


Skewing seems to be common problem on the ZX-9 OCO-80334A .235 X .018 
(original N.O.S.)

This Problem can be resolved by using a "narrow" belt with other 
dimensions remaining 'very close' to the 80334-D3.


The narrow belt is referred to as the (D-3*n*), but is not referenced on 
my website.

The (D-3*n*) is only used, when the customer has a skewing problem with 
the regular (D3).


( I had some 8096-D2 produced here in the *USA* that were total junk and 
trashed ).


Belt manufacturers no longer want to produce belts thinner than .020 .

This prevent inconstant thickness around the circumference of the Belt.

This was the problem with my defective D2's replaced by Japan.



*FACT *


"Some" repair centers Use And *Ship* the 82702-D1, in place of the 8096-D2

for the 480, 680, LX, RX, ZXE and ZXL which will *NOT* Work for LONG.

(Too large in I.C. )



*CURRENT STATUS*


Marrs has recovered from the D2 order backlog, has *added* personnel and 
has shipped

*Within* 4 Business Days at 100% order fill, on All Brands for the past 
60 Days !


**********************************************                                
7,061 Kits Made and Shipped since March 2014

***********************************************                                      
26,843** BELTS IN STOCK


*

*Things to remember about Marrs*


Straight Talk with no *B.S.*


Any *Factory* Belt that fails to meet Nakamichi wow/flutter 
specifications on YOUR MACHINE

will be replaced at NO CHARGE excluding postage *IF,* your transport has 
been fully serviced, _ no questions ask.


Defective belts must be returned to Marrs, for return to Japan.



*SERVICE CENTERS DISCOUNT 20%*


The *service*@marrscom.com , email is available for Repair Centers.

Using this email will expedite order processing and shipment

and reduce turnaround on waiting repair jobs. *

*Service Center orders *have* Priority.
























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From protocarcare at optusnet.com.au  Wed Dec 31 05:32:25 2014
From: protocarcare at optusnet.com.au (Manuel)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 15:32:25 +1100
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi repairers in Australia
Message-ID: <000901d024b2$c83094b0$5891be10$@optusnet.com.au>

Hi ,

Im trying to find a  nakamichi cassette deck repairer here in Australia ??
preferably in the Sydney area ??

All help will be greatly appreciated 

 

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From davidt124 at internode.on.net  Wed Dec 31 07:46:34 2014
From: davidt124 at internode.on.net (David Thompson)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 16:46:34 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] 682ZX problem
Message-ID: <D0C9D8EA.266D8%davidt124@internode.on.net>

My 682ZX has a strange problem with the transport. The Play switch lights up
and moves the cam only to the CU mark. Then Stop has no effect and no light.
I have to move the cam back by hand. Rew works but not FF. The test points
on the logic schematic all check out OK.
Any suggestions please?

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From cartrite at optusnet.com.au  Wed Dec 31 11:37:19 2014
From: cartrite at optusnet.com.au (Cartrite Coins)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 21:37:19 +1100
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi repairers in Australia
In-Reply-To: <000901d024b2$c83094b0$5891be10$@optusnet.com.au>
References: <000901d024b2$c83094b0$5891be10$@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <617046D788974B8C8EE09F1CBA51EEB1@InternetPC>

Hi...Russell at Stones Studio up Mullumbimby(Byron Bay Northern NSW) repairs them but is pricey,
http://www.stonessoundstudio.com.au/index.htm

There is also a guy in Brisbane but i haven’t been able to locate contact details yet..Len Wallis at Lane Cove used to repair them back when he was retailing Naka gear but may know of someone who is still involved with repairs...AtB Bas.  

From: Manuel 
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 3:32 PM
To: naktalk at lists.naks.com 
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi repairers in Australia

Hi ,

Im trying to find a  nakamichi cassette deck repairer here in Australia ?? preferably in the Sydney area ??

All help will be greatly appreciated 

 

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From davidt124 at internode.on.net  Wed Dec 31 11:32:40 2014
From: davidt124 at internode.on.net (David Thompson)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 20:32:40 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi repairers in Australia
In-Reply-To: <000901d024b2$c83094b0$5891be10$@optusnet.com.au>
References: <000901d024b2$c83094b0$5891be10$@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <D0CA0B55.266DB%davidt124@internode.on.net>

It is hard to find a reliable tech with Nakamichi experience in Australia.
John Gipps was the best but no longer copes with it. There is Bala Ganesh in
Brisbane if you are not in a hurry.  There is one person in NSW that I had a
bad experience with. I would be interested to know of anyone else you find.
Contact me direct if you need more info.

David

From:  Manuel <protocarcare at optusnet.com.au>
Reply-To:  Naktalk <naktalk at lists.naks.com>
Date:  Wednesday, 31 December 2014 2:32 pm
To:  Naktalk <naktalk at lists.naks.com>
Subject:  [naktalk] Nakamichi repairers in Australia

Hi ,
Im trying to find a  nakamichi cassette deck repairer here in Australia ??
preferably in the Sydney area ??
All help will be greatly appreciated
 
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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 31 13:38:59 2014
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 22:38:59 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] 682ZX problem
In-Reply-To: <D0C9D8EA.266D8%davidt124@internode.on.net>
References: <D0C9D8EA.266D8%davidt124@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <FBA7026A-540A-4889-83BE-68BEF4784120@yahoo.com>

That deck is sure jinxed David! And quite fragile! I would suggest holding on to it until we can get a 682ZX. It's upset me a little that all that work to get it playing has come apart, possibly during transit. It seems like a connection somewhere on the logic board has an issue, possibly the board traces itself. Do you spot cracks or traces that have broken? 

Best Regards, 
Bala Ganesh

> On 31 Dec 2014, at 4:46 pm, David Thompson <davidt124 at internode.on.net> wrote:
> 
> My 682ZX has a strange problem with the transport. The Play switch lights up and moves the cam only to the CU mark. Then Stop has no effect and no light. I have to move the cam back by hand. Rew works but not FF. The test points on the logic schematic all check out OK.
> Any suggestions please?
> 
> David
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From gerhard.wartha at gmail.com  Wed Dec 31 15:46:06 2014
From: gerhard.wartha at gmail.com (Gerhard Wartha)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 15:46:06 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] 682ZX transport
Message-ID: <554B6248-5F17-464B-AC21-0009BAAD31FD@gmail.com>

Hi David,

Did you check the cam belt ?

Is the problem always exact you did described or is it changing  a  
bit in a mechanically way,??

Gerhard 




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From n.van.wijnen at gmail.com  Fri Feb  7 16:22:18 2014
From: n.van.wijnen at gmail.com (Norman van Wijnen)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 16:22:18 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] 2sk240 fet for nakamichi 1000 zxl
Message-ID: <D68D2714-67CD-4AAE-8829-A3CA62AF3134@gmail.com>

Hi all,

Do you guys know some place to order this fet?
I am repairing a 1000 zxl with some problems

Best regards

Norman


Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad


From gerhard.wartha at gmail.com  Fri Feb  7 18:43:00 2014
From: gerhard.wartha at gmail.com (Gerhard Wartha)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 18:43:00 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] 2sk240 fet for nakamichi 1000 zxl
In-Reply-To: <D68D2714-67CD-4AAE-8829-A3CA62AF3134@gmail.com>
References: <D68D2714-67CD-4AAE-8829-A3CA62AF3134@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DE76B388-AD9D-419D-9A73-0305529FE759@gmail.com>

IN JAPAN , 2SK 240 BL


You can use   2SK 146   as well


If I  buy it in Japan  the price is $35 for 2 Cans.  needed in Play  
Back PCB.

It takes 14 days to ship to Austria, No direct way  to Norway because  
shipping from Japan is private.

regards

Gerhard


Am 07.02.2014 um 16:22 schrieb Norman van Wijnen:

> Hi all,
>
> Do you guys know some place to order this fet?
> I am repairing a 1000 zxl with some problems
>
> Best regards
>
> Norman
>
>
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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Fri Feb  7 21:08:15 2014
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh)
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 06:08:15 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] 2sk240 fet for nakamichi 1000 zxl
In-Reply-To: <D68D2714-67CD-4AAE-8829-A3CA62AF3134@gmail.com>
References: <D68D2714-67CD-4AAE-8829-A3CA62AF3134@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <189E2D2A-40D3-4A79-84F1-5075705A7BB8@yahoo.com>

Hi Norman, 

Are you sure the JFETs are faulty? 

Best Regards, 
Bala Ganesh

> On 8 Feb 2014, at 1:22 am, Norman van Wijnen <n.van.wijnen at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Do you guys know some place to order this fet?
> I am repairing a 1000 zxl with some problems
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Norman
> 
> 
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From n.van.wijnen at gmail.com  Fri Feb  7 21:49:57 2014
From: n.van.wijnen at gmail.com (Norman van Wijnen)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 21:49:57 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] 2sk240 fet for nakamichi 1000 zxl
In-Reply-To: <189E2D2A-40D3-4A79-84F1-5075705A7BB8@yahoo.com>
References: <D68D2714-67CD-4AAE-8829-A3CA62AF3134@gmail.com>
	<189E2D2A-40D3-4A79-84F1-5075705A7BB8@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <26E0B9AC-9FE1-4630-8216-692ED70F73BA@gmail.com>

Hi Bala,

I thought they where ok but one channel fails. Maybe i have to search again but i suspect the fet. It is a pain to measure because i dont have the expansion boards.

Best regards,

Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

> Op 7 feb. 2014 om 21:08 heeft Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi Norman, 
> 
> Are you sure the JFETs are faulty? 
> 
> Best Regards, 
> Bala Ganesh
> 
>> On 8 Feb 2014, at 1:22 am, Norman van Wijnen <n.van.wijnen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Do you guys know some place to order this fet?
>> I am repairing a 1000 zxl with some problems
>> 
>> Best regards
>> 
>> Norman
>> 
>> 
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From radiocitycab at yahoo.com  Sat Feb  8 01:44:05 2014
From: radiocitycab at yahoo.com (Tim Rusling)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 16:44:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] 2sk240 fet for nakamichi 1000 zxl
In-Reply-To: <26E0B9AC-9FE1-4630-8216-692ED70F73BA@gmail.com>
References: <D68D2714-67CD-4AAE-8829-A3CA62AF3134@gmail.com>	<189E2D2A-40D3-4A79-84F1-5075705A7BB8@yahoo.com>
	<26E0B9AC-9FE1-4630-8216-692ED70F73BA@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1391820245.46424.YahooMailNeo@web125205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Norman:

http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/2sk240-.html

Tim Rusling





On Friday, February 7, 2014 4:16 PM, Norman van Wijnen <n.van.wijnen at gmail.com> wrote:
 
Hi Bala,

I thought they where ok but one channel fails. Maybe i have to search again but i suspect the fet. It is a pain to measure because i dont have the expansion boards.

Best regards,

Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

> Op 7 feb. 2014 om 21:08 heeft Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi Norman, 
> 
> Are you sure the JFETs are faulty? 
> 
> Best Regards, 
> Bala Ganesh
> 
>> On 8 Feb 2014, at 1:22 am, Norman van Wijnen <n.van.wijnen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Do you guys know some place to order this fet?
>> I am repairing a 1000 zxl with some problems
>> 
>> Best regards
>> 
>> Norman
>> 
>> 
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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Sat Feb  8 10:55:15 2014
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra)
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 01:55:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] 2sk240 fet for nakamichi 1000 zxl
In-Reply-To: <26E0B9AC-9FE1-4630-8216-692ED70F73BA@gmail.com>
References: <D68D2714-67CD-4AAE-8829-A3CA62AF3134@gmail.com>	<189E2D2A-40D3-4A79-84F1-5075705A7BB8@yahoo.com>
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HI Norman, 

The playback board can be probed by removing the side panel. Measure the output at the op-amp and see how it goes. Make sure you adjust the DC offset on that board first. 

Kind Regards, 
Bala


________________________________
 From: Norman van Wijnen <n.van.wijnen at gmail.com>
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at naks.com> 
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: [naktalk] 2sk240 fet for nakamichi 1000 zxl
 

Hi Bala,

I thought they where ok but one channel fails. Maybe i have to search again but i suspect the fet. It is a pain to measure because i dont have the expansion boards.

Best regards,

Norman

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> Op 7 feb. 2014 om 21:08 heeft Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi Norman, 
> 
> Are you sure the JFETs are faulty? 
> 
> Best Regards, 
> Bala Ganesh
> 
>> On 8 Feb 2014, at 1:22 am, Norman van Wijnen <n.van.wijnen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Do you guys know some place to order this fet?
>> I am repairing a 1000 zxl with some problems
>> 
>> Best regards
>> 
>> Norman
>> 
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From 75541.100 at compuserve.com  Thu Feb 13 05:57:52 2014
From: 75541.100 at compuserve.com (compudude)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 20:57:52 -0800
Subject: [naktalk] 700 on the Moon
In-Reply-To: <201402091116.s19B7l1g031828@zxe.naks.com>
References: <201402091116.s19B7l1g031828@zxe.naks.com>
Message-ID: <52FC50D0.7050400@compuserve.com>

A Nakamichi 700 can be seen @24:38 in this episode of Space 1999

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zebkcWeDnBk

The Bringers Of Wonder Part 2

Someone forwarded it to me just recently, thought you guys might enjoy 
it as well.

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From wheijke at xs4all.nl  Thu Feb 13 10:27:09 2014
From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 10:27:09 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] donor BX-300 in UK
Message-ID: <3fe4d25740110142ff41969cc721a0ee.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>

Anyone in the London area wants a BX-300 with some minor problems?
The owner also does not mind shipping but wants whoever wants it to pay
for the postage.

Wouter



From davidfrow at hotmail.com  Thu Feb 13 15:54:59 2014
From: davidfrow at hotmail.com (davidfrow)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:54:59 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] donor BX-300 in UK
Message-ID: <DUB405-EAS163DC4938B841D215EAF879BD9D0@phx.gbl>

I would like it if is still available.  Thanks, David


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Anyone in the London area wants a BX-300 with some minor problems?
The owner also does not mind shipping but wants whoever wants it to pay
for the postage.

Wouter

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From mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk  Thu Feb 13 18:17:46 2014
From: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk (Mercedes Benz)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:17:46 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] donor BX-300 in UK
Message-ID: <COL402-EAS4288B77A2FA25FD2D9CA8D1B69D0@phx.gbl>

I am interested if you're talking about London England.

Regards
Nadeem

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To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] donor BX-300 in UK

Anyone in the London area wants a BX-300 with some minor problems?
The owner also does not mind shipping but wants whoever wants it to pay
for the postage.

Wouter

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From wheijke at xs4all.nl  Thu Feb 13 20:10:21 2014
From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 20:10:21 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] donor BX-300 in UK
In-Reply-To: <3fe4d25740110142ff41969cc721a0ee.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
References: <3fe4d25740110142ff41969cc721a0ee.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <98824f4aa24db8eec8d7d6b344310edd.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>

We found a new home for this one!

Wouter

> Anyone in the London area wants a BX-300 with some minor problems?
> The owner also does not mind shipping but wants whoever wants it to pay
> for the postage.
>
> Wouter
>





From radiocitycab at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 13 17:17:13 2014
From: radiocitycab at yahoo.com (Tim Rusling)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 08:17:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] 700 on the Moon
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Brief, but very cool!





On Thursday, February 13, 2014 2:55 AM, compudude <75541.100 at compuserve.com> wrote:
 
A Nakamichi 700 can be seen @24:38 in this episode of Space 1999

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zebkcWeDnBk 


The Bringers Of Wonder Part 2

Someone forwarded it to me just recently, thought you guys might enjoy it as well.

_Fuad


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From earthrite at gn.apc.org  Fri Feb 14 18:54:46 2014
From: earthrite at gn.apc.org (earthrite)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 17:54:46 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] re donor 300
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 1. donor BX-300 in UK (Wouter Heijke)
  2. Re: donor BX-300 in 
Anyone in the London area wants 

lovely gesture. bravo

my 300 isnt FF'ing reliably

i just got my 670 back from B&W

I had hoped to save servicing costs on this supposedly more reliable  DD model

ian r
scotland


From bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk  Sun Feb 16 15:44:43 2014
From: bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk (Ben Stratford)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 14:44:43 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] Fried Resistor
Message-ID: <DUB123-W3963FC5861465FF8B59F0F909E0@phx.gbl>

Investigating non playing of 680ZX.  Found a burnt out resistor - R512 (Logic Board) 
This is too burnt to identify the value.  The manual lists as:
Nak Part No. OB09381A Fail Safe Type Resistor 2 RDF-25 SJ
Could anyone please identify a replacement part?
 
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From brainsmartman at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 16 17:25:46 2014
From: brainsmartman at yahoo.com (c n)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 08:25:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] Fried Resistor
In-Reply-To: <DUB123-W3963FC5861465FF8B59F0F909E0@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB123-W3963FC5861465FF8B59F0F909E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1392567946.66396.YahooMailNeo@web120105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

2 ohm, fusible resisitor or non flamable.





On Sunday, February 16, 2014 6:16 PM, Ben Stratford <bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
 
 
Investigating non playing of 680ZX.  Found a burnt out resistor - R512 (Logic Board) 
This is too burnt to identify the value.  The manual lists as:
Nak Part No. OB09381A Fail Safe Type Resistor 2 RDF-25 SJ
Could anyone please identify a replacement part?
 
Thanks, Ben

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From luis at peromarta.org  Sun Feb 16 17:37:29 2014
From: luis at peromarta.org (Luis Peromarta)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 11:37:29 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Fried Resistor
In-Reply-To: <DUB123-W3963FC5861465FF8B59F0F909E0@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB123-W3963FC5861465FF8B59F0F909E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1882A8AD-1973-4AE5-B519-7F067B317507@peromarta.org>

Hi Ben.

R512 2Ohm.





This part is acting as a fuse-resistor. If it has blown, it needs further investigation of the motor. I would disconnect the motor and connect to 1VDC and slowly go up to maybe 6V and look for smooth turning. Other wise the motor might be bad.

Best, LP.


El 16/02/2014, a las 09:44, Ben Stratford <bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk> escribió:

> Investigating non playing of 680ZX.  Found a burnt out resistor - R512 (Logic Board) 
> This is too burnt to identify the value.  The manual lists as:
> Nak Part No. OB09381A Fail Safe Type Resistor 2 RDF-25 SJ
> Could anyone please identify a replacement part?
>  
> Thanks, Ben
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From bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk  Sun Feb 16 20:55:54 2014
From: bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk (Ben Stratford)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 19:55:54 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] Fried Resistor
In-Reply-To: <1882A8AD-1973-4AE5-B519-7F067B317507@peromarta.org>
References: <DUB123-W3963FC5861465FF8B59F0F909E0@phx.gbl>,
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Thanks Luis.
The motor seemed fine in fast forward but in reverse it was slow.  Having removed it (very tight screws!) and connected it to a bench supply, the motor was stuck until I twisted the rotor by hand it then kicked into life at normal speed but was noisy.  A small drop of oil on the bearing quietened it down instantly.  However on changing the polarity, the motor was struggling in reverse to get to half speed and was vibrating so a new motor was fitted.  
The 2 ohm resistor was changed out but there must be another failure - will investigate this next.
Ben 
 
From: luis at peromarta.org
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Fried Resistor
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 11:37:29 -0500
To: naktalk at naks.com

Hi Ben.
R512 2Ohm.



This part is acting as a fuse-resistor. If it has blown, it needs further investigation of the motor. I would disconnect the motor and connect to 1VDC and slowly go up to maybe 6V and look for smooth turning. Other wise the motor might be bad.
Best, LP.

El 16/02/2014, a las 09:44, Ben Stratford <bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk> escribió:Investigating non playing of 680ZX.  Found a burnt out resistor - R512 (Logic Board) 
This is too burnt to identify the value.  The manual lists as:
Nak Part No. OB09381A Fail Safe Type Resistor 2 RDF-25 SJ
Could anyone please identify a replacement part?
 
Thanks, Ben
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From luis at peromarta.org  Sun Feb 16 21:19:45 2014
From: luis at peromarta.org (Luis Peromarta Regert)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 15:19:45 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Fried Resistor
In-Reply-To: <DUB123-W216ED631D53CB2A65ACD26909E0@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB123-W3963FC5861465FF8B59F0F909E0@phx.gbl>
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	<DUB123-W216ED631D53CB2A65ACD26909E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4FF1832A-C537-4F15-B029-E580BD9FDF78@peromarta.org>

I would now suspect one of the push pull transistors in the output of the opamp. 

Sent from iPhone. Pls excuse typos.

> El 16/02/2014, a las 14:55, Ben Stratford <bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk> escribió:
> 
> Thanks Luis.
> The motor seemed fine in fast forward but in reverse it was slow.  Having removed it (very tight screws!) and connected it to a bench supply, the motor was stuck until I twisted the rotor by hand it then kicked into life at normal speed but was noisy.  A small drop of oil on the bearing quietened it down instantly.  However on changing the polarity, the motor was struggling in reverse to get to half speed and was vibrating so a new motor was fitted.  
> The 2 ohm resistor was changed out but there must be another failure - will investigate this next.
> Ben 
>  
> From: luis at peromarta.org
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Fried Resistor
> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 11:37:29 -0500
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> 
> Hi Ben.
> 
> R512 2Ohm.
> 
> 
> <Captura de pantalla 2014-02-16 a la(s) 11.34.41.png>
> 
> 
> This part is acting as a fuse-resistor. If it has blown, it needs further investigation of the motor. I would disconnect the motor and connect to 1VDC and slowly go up to maybe 6V and look for smooth turning. Other wise the motor might be bad.
> 
> Best, LP.
> 
> 
> El 16/02/2014, a las 09:44, Ben Stratford <bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk> escribió:
> 
> Investigating non playing of 680ZX.  Found a burnt out resistor - R512 (Logic Board) 
> This is too burnt to identify the value.  The manual lists as:
> Nak Part No. OB09381A Fail Safe Type Resistor 2 RDF-25 SJ
> Could anyone please identify a replacement part?
>  
> Thanks, Ben
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From luis at peromarta.org  Sun Feb 16 21:21:22 2014
From: luis at peromarta.org (Luis Peromarta Regert)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 15:21:22 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Fried Resistor
In-Reply-To: <DUB123-W216ED631D53CB2A65ACD26909E0@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB123-W3963FC5861465FF8B59F0F909E0@phx.gbl>
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	<DUB123-W216ED631D53CB2A65ACD26909E0@phx.gbl>
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If you find a bad transistor I would replace both. Probably a pair of 3904/3906 would do the job if similar Ic max as the originals which I do not know. 

Sent from iPhone. Pls excuse typos.

> El 16/02/2014, a las 14:55, Ben Stratford <bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk> escribió:
> 
> Thanks Luis.
> The motor seemed fine in fast forward but in reverse it was slow.  Having removed it (very tight screws!) and connected it to a bench supply, the motor was stuck until I twisted the rotor by hand it then kicked into life at normal speed but was noisy.  A small drop of oil on the bearing quietened it down instantly.  However on changing the polarity, the motor was struggling in reverse to get to half speed and was vibrating so a new motor was fitted.  
> The 2 ohm resistor was changed out but there must be another failure - will investigate this next.
> Ben 
>  
> From: luis at peromarta.org
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Fried Resistor
> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 11:37:29 -0500
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> 
> Hi Ben.
> 
> R512 2Ohm.
> 
> 
> <Captura de pantalla 2014-02-16 a la(s) 11.34.41.png>
> 
> 
> This part is acting as a fuse-resistor. If it has blown, it needs further investigation of the motor. I would disconnect the motor and connect to 1VDC and slowly go up to maybe 6V and look for smooth turning. Other wise the motor might be bad.
> 
> Best, LP.
> 
> 
> El 16/02/2014, a las 09:44, Ben Stratford <bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk> escribió:
> 
> Investigating non playing of 680ZX.  Found a burnt out resistor - R512 (Logic Board) 
> This is too burnt to identify the value.  The manual lists as:
> Nak Part No. OB09381A Fail Safe Type Resistor 2 RDF-25 SJ
> Could anyone please identify a replacement part?
>  
> Thanks, Ben
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From bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk  Sun Feb 16 23:25:55 2014
From: bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk (Ben Stratford)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 22:25:55 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] Fried Resistor
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	<1882A8AD-1973-4AE5-B519-7F067B317507@peromarta.org>
	<DUB123-W216ED631D53CB2A65ACD26909E0@phx.gbl>
	<B5BAB3FF-EBCC-4AE9-8F2A-BF2CA74CEB4B@peromarta.org>
Message-ID: <DUB405-EAS2343DD7B20FF33946F9D572909E0@phx.gbl>

Thanks Luis.   I will check them out next. 

> On 16 Feb 2014, at 21:49, "Luis Peromarta Regert" <luis at peromarta.org> wrote:
> 
> If you find a bad transistor I would replace both. Probably a pair of 3904/3906 would do the job if similar Ic max as the originals which I do not know. 
> 
> Sent from iPhone. Pls excuse typos.
> 
>> El 16/02/2014, a las 14:55, Ben Stratford <bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk> escribió:
>> 
>> Thanks Luis.
>> The motor seemed fine in fast forward but in reverse it was slow.  Having removed it (very tight screws!) and connected it to a bench supply, the motor was stuck until I twisted the rotor by hand it then kicked into life at normal speed but was noisy.  A small drop of oil on the bearing quietened it down instantly.  However on changing the polarity, the motor was struggling in reverse to get to half speed and was vibrating so a new motor was fitted.  
>> The 2 ohm resistor was changed out but there must be another failure - will investigate this next.
>> Ben 
>>  
>> From: luis at peromarta.org
>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Fried Resistor
>> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 11:37:29 -0500
>> To: naktalk at naks.com
>> 
>> Hi Ben.
>> 
>> R512 2Ohm.
>> 
>> 
>> <Captura de pantalla 2014-02-16 a la(s) 11.34.41.png>
>> 
>> 
>> This part is acting as a fuse-resistor. If it has blown, it needs further investigation of the motor. I would disconnect the motor and connect to 1VDC and slowly go up to maybe 6V and look for smooth turning. Other wise the motor might be bad.
>> 
>> Best, LP.
>> 
>> 
>> El 16/02/2014, a las 09:44, Ben Stratford <bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk> escribió:
>> 
>> Investigating non playing of 680ZX.  Found a burnt out resistor - R512 (Logic Board) 
>> This is too burnt to identify the value.  The manual lists as:
>> Nak Part No. OB09381A Fail Safe Type Resistor 2 RDF-25 SJ
>> Could anyone please identify a replacement part?
>>  
>> Thanks, Ben
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From radiocitycab at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 17 01:08:05 2014
From: radiocitycab at yahoo.com (Tim Rusling)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 16:08:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] No problems so far
Message-ID: <1392595685.8941.YahooMailNeo@web125202.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

My favorite deck is an original 600, which is hooked up to the amp and control pre-amp of the System One.  It must have thousands of hours of use by now, and still works perfectly.  I sure hope it continues to do so! The sound performance is outstanding.

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From pbtanner at hotmail.com  Mon Feb 17 13:47:44 2014
From: pbtanner at hotmail.com (Peter Tanner)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:47:44 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] 481Z
Message-ID: <BLU173-W444674169B2AFD6592D310DF990@phx.gbl>

Hi everybody,

I have a 481 Z which functions very well. Lately, however, while recording with the Dolby C it has developed some issues. The left channel is full of crackling noise and a hum. It still erases though. The right channel seems OK. In Dolby B or without NR the deck erases and records normally on all types of tapes. The two 472 caps in the bias oscillator have been replaced with the same value, same tolerance, same voltage high quality caps. No change. Otherwise the deck has not had any electronic repairs done to it. Can anyone give me an idea what it could be caused by and if there is a fix for it? Thanks

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From bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk  Mon Feb 17 20:03:31 2014
From: bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk (Ben Stratford)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 19:03:31 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] Fried Resistor
In-Reply-To: <B5BAB3FF-EBCC-4AE9-8F2A-BF2CA74CEB4B@peromarta.org>
References: <DUB123-W3963FC5861465FF8B59F0F909E0@phx.gbl>,
	<1882A8AD-1973-4AE5-B519-7F067B317507@peromarta.org>,
	<DUB123-W216ED631D53CB2A65ACD26909E0@phx.gbl>,
	<B5BAB3FF-EBCC-4AE9-8F2A-BF2CA74CEB4B@peromarta.org>
Message-ID: <DUB123-W121D02992D5A7F44B8805E90990@phx.gbl>

Replaced the 2 transistors recommended by Luis and found the opamp (405) to be faulty,  Replaced that and checked all associated resistors and caps but all ok.  The deck will engage when pressing play and the play light illuminates but the motor will not move.  Will need to investigate further tomorrow.
Thanks, Ben
 
From: luis at peromarta.org
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Fried Resistor
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 15:21:22 -0500
To: naktalk at naks.com

If you find a bad transistor I would replace both. Probably a pair of 3904/3906 would do the job if similar Ic max as the originals which I do not know. 

Sent from iPhone. Pls excuse typos.
El 16/02/2014, a las 14:55, Ben Stratford <bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk> escribió:




Thanks Luis.
The motor seemed fine in fast forward but in reverse it was slow.  Having removed it (very tight screws!) and connected it to a bench supply, the motor was stuck until I twisted the rotor by hand it then kicked into life at normal speed but was noisy.  A small drop of oil on the bearing quietened it down instantly.  However on changing the polarity, the motor was struggling in reverse to get to half speed and was vibrating so a new motor was fitted.  
The 2 ohm resistor was changed out but there must be another failure - will investigate this next.
Ben 
 
From: luis at peromarta.org
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Fried Resistor
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 11:37:29 -0500
To: naktalk at naks.com

Hi Ben.
R512 2Ohm.

<Captura de pantalla 2014-02-16 a la(s) 11.34.41.png>

This part is acting as a fuse-resistor. If it has blown, it needs further investigation of the motor. I would disconnect the motor and connect to 1VDC and slowly go up to maybe 6V and look for smooth turning. Other wise the motor might be bad.
Best, LP.

El 16/02/2014, a las 09:44, Ben Stratford <bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk> escribió:Investigating non playing of 680ZX.  Found a burnt out resistor - R512 (Logic Board) 
This is too burnt to identify the value.  The manual lists as:
Nak Part No. OB09381A Fail Safe Type Resistor 2 RDF-25 SJ
Could anyone please identify a replacement part?
 
Thanks, Ben
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From dowlesm at gmail.com  Mon Feb 17 20:03:20 2014
From: dowlesm at gmail.com (Michael Dowless)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 11:03:20 -0800
Subject: [naktalk] 481Z
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References: <BLU173-W444674169B2AFD6592D310DF990@phx.gbl>
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Hey Peter,

I just got done replacing all the little orange film capacitors in my 480Z
and it's sounding great again. What's going on from your description is
"Orange Cap Disease" where the small value orange film caps fail after 30+
years and the only way to get your deck sounding good again is to replace
them. Fortunately they are very cheap and I found mine all from Mouser (
mouser.com) which cuts down on shipping costs since it's all one order.

Here's what they look like:



This article I found goes into more detail and helps locate the right
suppliers;
http://www.nakremotes.com/Geo/Scott_Nak_FAQ.htm#Orange%20Cap%20Disease

This is also good info http://www.naks.com/support/orange/

Here's a before image of the main board with the suspect caps. Note you do
not have to replace the orange cylindrical electrolytic caps just the
chicklet looking polyester film caps. (photo taken looking from right
underside of deck if looking at from front)



Here's the after image of some of the replaced film caps (photo taken
looking at the right rear underside of the deck)



Here's my parts list if that would help


 Nakamichi 480Z Orange Cap replacement
BOM<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoetoVodof1_dEVCUnRFMERFV0lCLVN6SXJ0by1Da2c&usp=drive_web>


On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 4:47 AM, Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
> I have a 481 Z which functions very well. Lately, however, while recording
> with the Dolby C it has developed some issues. The left channel is full of
> crackling noise and a hum. It still erases though. The right channel seems
> OK. In Dolby B or without NR the deck erases and records normally on all
> types of tapes. The two 472 caps in the bias oscillator have been replaced
> with the same value, same tolerance, same voltage high quality caps. No
> change. Otherwise the deck has not had any electronic repairs done to it.
> Can anyone give me an idea what it could be caused by and if there is a fix
> for it? Thanks
>
> Peter
>
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 18 01:26:41 2014
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 16:26:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] 481Z
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References: <BLU173-W444674169B2AFD6592D310DF990@phx.gbl>
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Peter, it is unlikely the problem is cased by the oscillator. I would suspect the Dolby 
circuit (specifically, the Dolby C section). While it could be a bad cap, it could also 
be a hairline crack in the PCB in that area. The latter can sometimes be diagnosed 
by light tapping on the suspect PCB area and/or judicious application of a freezing 
spray. 

Good luck,

-- Ron





On Monday, February 17, 2014 8:19 AM, Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com> wrote:
 
 
>Hi everybody,
>
>I have a 481 Z which functions very well. Lately, however, while recording with the Dolby C it has developed some issues. The left channel is full of crackling noise and a hum. It still erases though. The right channel seems OK. In Dolby B or without NR the deck erases and records normally on all types of tapes. The two 472 caps in the bias oscillator have been replaced with the same value, same tolerance, same voltage high quality caps. No change. Otherwise the deck has not had any electronic repairs done to it. Can anyone give me an idea what it could be caused by and if there is a fix for it? Thanks
>
>Peter
>
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From kaupp240 at hotmail.com  Tue Feb 18 04:19:41 2014
From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com (Cheryl Kaupp)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:19:41 -1000
Subject: [naktalk] 481Z
In-Reply-To: <1392683201.1367.YahooMailNeo@web160201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP2261809512471C4E034109186980@phx.gbl>

Hi Peter,
 
A few years ago I lost one of the channels on my 581 -- but only when Dolby
was turned on. It sounded as you describe but was also very weak in volume.
When Dolby was OFF it worked fine. The 581 is pretty easy (no Dolby C and no
double Dolby).
 
It turned out to be one of the caps in the Dolby circuit -- but it was NOT
an orange cap. If memory serves me correctly it some type of film cap and
was either green or brown. 
 
Get out the schematic and follow the circuits from the Dolby switch. See
where the circuits go for Dolby B and Dolby OFF compared to where the
circuit goes for Dolby C. The 581 was simple and the difference between
Dolby ON and Dolby OFF was minimal. With Dolby ON there were only 1 or 2
caps that got switched into the circuit as I recall. That made it pretty
easy to fix.
 
Aloha and good luck,
Cheryl

  _____  

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Ron
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 2:27 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] 481Z


Peter, it is unlikely the problem is cased by the oscillator. I would
suspect the Dolby 
circuit (specifically, the Dolby C section). While it could be a bad cap, it
could also 
be a hairline crack in the PCB in that area. The latter can sometimes be
diagnosed 
by light tapping on the suspect PCB area and/or judicious application of a
freezing 
spray. 

Good luck,

-- Ron




On Monday, February 17, 2014 8:19 AM, Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com>
wrote:


Hi everybody,

I have a 481 Z which functions very well. Lately, however, while recording
with the Dolby C it has developed some issues. The left channel is full of
crackling noise and a hum. It still erases though. The right channel seems
OK. In Dolby B or without NR the deck erases and records normally on all
types of tapes. The two 472 caps in the bias oscillator have been replaced
with the same value, same tolerance, same voltage high quality caps. No
change. Otherwise the deck has not had any electronic repairs done to it.
Can anyone give me an idea what it could be caused by and if there is a fix
for it? Thanks

Peter



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From pbtanner at hotmail.com  Wed Feb 19 12:43:27 2014
From: pbtanner at hotmail.com (Peter Tanner)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 11:43:27 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] 481Z
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP2261809512471C4E034109186980@phx.gbl>
References: <1392683201.1367.YahooMailNeo@web160201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>,
	<BLU0-SMTP2261809512471C4E034109186980@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU173-W20D50166BCC2500C65639EDF9B0@phx.gbl>

Thanks, Cheryl and Ron,

I've tried the spray, no change. The problem is that I can't identify the caps in the SM that go with the Dolby C. As I've mentioned the Dolby B works perfectly. The manual indicates a number of caps, some pp some electrolytic, some Mylar but all under the Dolby NR in general. There must be at least 50 all together for B and C, left and right. I got lost in the schematic while trying to follow the circuit from the switch. There are a no of big blue filter caps in the NR and as there are crackles in one channel while the other has just a plain hum some of them maybe responsible. I am not sure if I have the know-how to figure it out though. I don't often use the Dolby C for recording but this the only deck I have that has it so it's a pity. Fortunately the playback is OK and the B has not been affected so far. Thanks, anyway

Peter

From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:19:41 -1000






Hi Peter,
 
A few years ago I lost one of the channels on my 581 -- 
but only when Dolby was turned on. It sounded as you describe but was also very 
weak in volume. When Dolby was OFF it worked fine. The 581 is pretty easy 
(no Dolby C and no double Dolby).
 
It turned out to be one of the caps in the Dolby 
circuit -- but it was NOT an orange cap. If memory serves me correctly it some 
type of film cap and was either green or brown. 
 
Get out the schematic and follow the circuits from the 
Dolby switch. See where the circuits go for Dolby B and Dolby OFF compared to 
where the circuit goes for Dolby C. The 581 was simple and the difference 
between Dolby ON and Dolby OFF was minimal. With Dolby ON there were only 1 
or 2 caps that got switched into the circuit as I recall. That made it 
pretty easy to fix.
 
Aloha and good luck,
Cheryl



From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com 
[mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: 
Monday, February 17, 2014 2:27 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette 
Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] 481Z



Peter, 
it is unlikely the problem is cased by the oscillator. I would suspect the Dolby 

circuit (specifically, the Dolby C section). While it could be a bad cap, it 
could also 
be a hairline crack in the PCB in that area. The latter can 
sometimes be diagnosed 
by light tapping on the suspect PCB area and/or 
judicious application of a freezing 
spray. 

Good luck,

-- 
Ron







On Monday, February 17, 2014 8:19 AM, Peter 
Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com> wrote:


  
  
  

  
  Hi everybody,

I have a 481 Z which functions very well. 
  Lately, however, while recording with the Dolby C it has developed some 
  issues. The left channel is full of crackling noise and a hum. It still erases 
  though. The right channel seems OK. In Dolby B or without NR the deck erases 
  and records normally on all types of tapes. The two 472 caps in the bias 
  oscillator have been replaced with the same value, same tolerance, same 
  voltage high quality caps. No change. Otherwise the deck has not had any 
  electronic repairs done to it. Can anyone give me an idea what it could be 
  caused by and if there is a fix for it? 
  Thanks

Peter


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From dowlesm at gmail.com  Thu Feb 20 00:30:32 2014
From: dowlesm at gmail.com (Michael Dowless)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 15:30:32 -0800
Subject: [naktalk] 481Z
In-Reply-To: <BLU173-W20D50166BCC2500C65639EDF9B0@phx.gbl>
References: <1392683201.1367.YahooMailNeo@web160201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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Peter,

As I mentioned in my post, my Nak 480z had those symptoms when recording
and playing back. Replacing all orange film caps (no small electrolytics
were replaced) did the trick. Now it's working perfectly. Next thing on the
agenda is to replace the idler rubber since it makes a squeal near the end
of a FF or RW operation.

It's really not a problem identifying and replacing all the orange film
caps (I think they were polypropylene).

Michael


On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:43 AM, Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Cheryl and Ron,
>
> I've tried the spray, no change. The problem is that I can't identify the
> caps in the SM that go with the Dolby C. As I've mentioned the Dolby B
> works perfectly. The manual indicates a number of caps, some pp some
> electrolytic, some Mylar but all under the Dolby NR in general. There must
> be at least 50 all together for B and C, left and right. I got lost in the
> schematic while trying to follow the circuit from the switch. There are a
> no of big blue filter caps in the NR and as there are crackles in one
> channel while the other has just a plain hum some of them maybe
> responsible. I am not sure if I have the know-how to figure it out though.
> I don't often use the Dolby C for recording but this the only deck I have
> that has it so it's a pity. Fortunately the playback is OK and the B has
> not been affected so far. Thanks, anyway
>
> Peter
>
> ------------------------------
> From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:19:41 -1000
>
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> A few years ago I lost one of the channels on my 581 -- but only when
> Dolby was turned on. It sounded as you describe but was also very weak in
> volume. When Dolby was OFF it worked fine. The 581 is pretty easy (no Dolby
> C and no double Dolby).
>
> It turned out to be one of the caps in the Dolby circuit -- but it was NOT
> an orange cap. If memory serves me correctly it some type of film cap and
> was either green or brown.
>
> Get out the schematic and follow the circuits from the Dolby switch. See
> where the circuits go for Dolby B and Dolby OFF compared to where the
> circuit goes for Dolby C. The 581 was simple and the difference between
> Dolby ON and Dolby OFF was minimal. With Dolby ON there were only 1 or 2
> caps that got switched into the circuit as I recall. That made it pretty
> easy to fix.
>
> Aloha and good luck,
> Cheryl
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Ron
> *Sent:* Monday, February 17, 2014 2:27 PM
> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] 481Z
>
>  Peter, it is unlikely the problem is cased by the oscillator. I would
> suspect the Dolby
> circuit (specifically, the Dolby C section). While it could be a bad cap,
> it could also
> be a hairline crack in the PCB in that area. The latter can sometimes be
> diagnosed
> by light tapping on the suspect PCB area and/or judicious application of a
> freezing
> spray.
>
> Good luck,
>
> -- Ron
>
>
>
>  On Monday, February 17, 2014 8:19 AM, Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>   Hi everybody,
>
> I have a 481 Z which functions very well. Lately, however, while recording
> with the Dolby C it has developed some issues. The left channel is full of
> crackling noise and a hum. It still erases though. The right channel seems
> OK. In Dolby B or without NR the deck erases and records normally on all
> types of tapes. The two 472 caps in the bias oscillator have been replaced
> with the same value, same tolerance, same voltage high quality caps. No
> change. Otherwise the deck has not had any electronic repairs done to it.
> Can anyone give me an idea what it could be caused by and if there is a fix
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>
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From n.van.wijnen at gmail.com  Thu Feb 20 09:18:17 2014
From: n.van.wijnen at gmail.com (Norman)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 09:18:17 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] 481Z
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Hi guys,

Yes they are all polypropylene . Read the manual because of the tolerance used by Nakamichi.
Some parts are very precise 1 or 2 percent tolerance. 

Best regards

Norman

Verstuurd vanaf Inges iPad

Op 20 feb. 2014 om 00:30 heeft Michael Dowless <dowlesm at gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:

> Peter,
> 
> As I mentioned in my post, my Nak 480z had those symptoms when recording and playing back. Replacing all orange film caps (no small electrolytics were replaced) did the trick. Now it's working perfectly. Next thing on the agenda is to replace the idler rubber since it makes a squeal near the end of a FF or RW operation. 
> 
> It's really not a problem identifying and replacing all the orange film caps (I think they were polypropylene). 
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:43 AM, Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks, Cheryl and Ron,
>> 
>> I've tried the spray, no change. The problem is that I can't identify the caps in the SM that go with the Dolby C. As I've mentioned the Dolby B works perfectly. The manual indicates a number of caps, some pp some electrolytic, some Mylar but all under the Dolby NR in general. There must be at least 50 all together for B and C, left and right. I got lost in the schematic while trying to follow the circuit from the switch. There are a no of big blue filter caps in the NR and as there are crackles in one channel while the other has just a plain hum some of them maybe responsible. I am not sure if I have the know-how to figure it out though. I don't often use the Dolby C for recording but this the only deck I have that has it so it's a pity. Fortunately the playback is OK and the B has not been affected so far. Thanks, anyway
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com
>> To: naktalk at naks.com
>> Subject: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
>> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:19:41 -1000
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Peter,
>>  
>> A few years ago I lost one of the channels on my 581 -- but only when Dolby was turned on. It sounded as you describe but was also very weak in volume. When Dolby was OFF it worked fine. The 581 is pretty easy (no Dolby C and no double Dolby).
>>  
>> It turned out to be one of the caps in the Dolby circuit -- but it was NOT an orange cap. If memory serves me correctly it some type of film cap and was either green or brown.
>>  
>> Get out the schematic and follow the circuits from the Dolby switch. See where the circuits go for Dolby B and Dolby OFF compared to where the circuit goes for Dolby C. The 581 was simple and the difference between Dolby ON and Dolby OFF was minimal. With Dolby ON there were only 1 or 2 caps that got switched into the circuit as I recall. That made it pretty easy to fix.
>>  
>> Aloha and good luck,
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ron
>> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 2:27 PM
>> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] 481Z
>> 
>> Peter, it is unlikely the problem is cased by the oscillator. I would suspect the Dolby 
>> circuit (specifically, the Dolby C section). While it could be a bad cap, it could also 
>> be a hairline crack in the PCB in that area. The latter can sometimes be diagnosed 
>> by light tapping on the suspect PCB area and/or judicious application of a freezing 
>> spray. 
>> 
>> Good luck,
>> 
>> -- Ron
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Monday, February 17, 2014 8:19 AM, Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi everybody,
>> 
>> I have a 481 Z which functions very well. Lately, however, while recording with the Dolby C it has developed some issues. The left channel is full of crackling noise and a hum. It still erases though. The right channel seems OK. In Dolby B or without NR the deck erases and records normally on all types of tapes. The two 472 caps in the bias oscillator have been replaced with the same value, same tolerance, same voltage high quality caps. No change. Otherwise the deck has not had any electronic repairs done to it. Can anyone give me an idea what it could be caused by and if there is a fix for it? Thanks
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
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From pbtanner at hotmail.com  Thu Feb 20 11:53:23 2014
From: pbtanner at hotmail.com (Peter Tanner)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 10:53:23 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] 481Z
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Thanks, Michael, I'll try to source them. There are quite a few especially in the Dolby circuit and they are all different values. right now I only have the 4700 pF's.

Peter

From: dowlesm at gmail.com
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 15:30:32 -0800
Subject: Re: [naktalk] 481Z
To: naktalk at naks.com

Peter,
As I mentioned in my post, my Nak 480z had those symptoms when recording and playing back. Replacing all orange film caps (no small electrolytics were replaced) did the trick. Now it's working perfectly. Next thing on the agenda is to replace the idler rubber since it makes a squeal near the end of a FF or RW operation. 


It's really not a problem identifying and replacing all the orange film caps (I think they were polypropylene). 
Michael



On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:43 AM, Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com> wrote:





Thanks, Cheryl and Ron,

I've tried the spray, no change. The problem is that I can't identify the caps in the SM that go with the Dolby C. As I've mentioned the Dolby B works perfectly. The manual indicates a number of caps, some pp some electrolytic, some Mylar but all under the Dolby NR in general. There must be at least 50 all together for B and C, left and right. I got lost in the schematic while trying to follow the circuit from the switch. There are a no of big blue filter caps in the NR and as there are crackles in one channel while the other has just a plain hum some of them maybe responsible. I am not sure if I have the know-how to figure it out though. I don't often use the Dolby C for recording but this the only deck I have that has it so it's a pity. Fortunately the playback is OK and the B has not been affected so far. Thanks, anyway



Peter

From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com
To: naktalk at naks.com


Subject: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:19:41 -1000






Hi Peter,
 
A few years ago I lost one of the channels on my 581 -- 
but only when Dolby was turned on. It sounded as you describe but was also very 
weak in volume. When Dolby was OFF it worked fine. The 581 is pretty easy 
(no Dolby C and no double Dolby).
 
It turned out to be one of the caps in the Dolby 
circuit -- but it was NOT an orange cap. If memory serves me correctly it some 
type of film cap and was either green or brown. 
 
Get out the schematic and follow the circuits from the 
Dolby switch. See where the circuits go for Dolby B and Dolby OFF compared to 
where the circuit goes for Dolby C. The 581 was simple and the difference 
between Dolby ON and Dolby OFF was minimal. With Dolby ON there were only 1 
or 2 caps that got switched into the circuit as I recall. That made it 
pretty easy to fix.
 
Aloha and good luck,
Cheryl



From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com 
[mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: 
Monday, February 17, 2014 2:27 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette 
Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] 481Z



Peter, 
it is unlikely the problem is cased by the oscillator. I would suspect the Dolby 

circuit (specifically, the Dolby C section). While it could be a bad cap, it 
could also 
be a hairline crack in the PCB in that area. The latter can 
sometimes be diagnosed 
by light tapping on the suspect PCB area and/or 
judicious application of a freezing 
spray. 

Good luck,

-- 
Ron







On Monday, February 17, 2014 8:19 AM, Peter 
Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com> wrote:


  
  
  

  
  Hi everybody,

I have a 481 Z which functions very well. 
  Lately, however, while recording with the Dolby C it has developed some 
  issues. The left channel is full of crackling noise and a hum. It still erases 
  though. The right channel seems OK. In Dolby B or without NR the deck erases 
  and records normally on all types of tapes. The two 472 caps in the bias 
  oscillator have been replaced with the same value, same tolerance, same 
  voltage high quality caps. No change. Otherwise the deck has not had any 
  electronic repairs done to it. Can anyone give me an idea what it could be 
  caused by and if there is a fix for it? 
  Thanks

Peter


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From bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk  Thu Feb 20 13:54:26 2014
From: bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk (Ben Stratford)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:54:26 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] 481Z
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Peter, if you want a kit of all the caps needed i can supply it. Thanks ben

> On 20 Feb 2014, at 12:33, "Peter Tanner" <pbtanner at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Michael, I'll try to source them. There are quite a few especially in the Dolby circuit and they are all different values. right now I only have the 4700 pF's.
> 
> Peter
> 
> From: dowlesm at gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 15:30:32 -0800
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] 481Z
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> 
> Peter,
> 
> As I mentioned in my post, my Nak 480z had those symptoms when recording and playing back. Replacing all orange film caps (no small electrolytics were replaced) did the trick. Now it's working perfectly. Next thing on the agenda is to replace the idler rubber since it makes a squeal near the end of a FF or RW operation. 
> 
> It's really not a problem identifying and replacing all the orange film caps (I think they were polypropylene). 
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:43 AM, Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Cheryl and Ron,
> 
> I've tried the spray, no change. The problem is that I can't identify the caps in the SM that go with the Dolby C. As I've mentioned the Dolby B works perfectly. The manual indicates a number of caps, some pp some electrolytic, some Mylar but all under the Dolby NR in general. There must be at least 50 all together for B and C, left and right. I got lost in the schematic while trying to follow the circuit from the switch. There are a no of big blue filter caps in the NR and as there are crackles in one channel while the other has just a plain hum some of them maybe responsible. I am not sure if I have the know-how to figure it out though. I don't often use the Dolby C for recording but this the only deck I have that has it so it's a pity. Fortunately the playback is OK and the B has not been affected so far. Thanks, anyway
> 
> Peter
> 
> From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:19:41 -1000
> 
> 
> Hi Peter,
>  
> A few years ago I lost one of the channels on my 581 -- but only when Dolby was turned on. It sounded as you describe but was also very weak in volume. When Dolby was OFF it worked fine. The 581 is pretty easy (no Dolby C and no double Dolby).
>  
> It turned out to be one of the caps in the Dolby circuit -- but it was NOT an orange cap. If memory serves me correctly it some type of film cap and was either green or brown.
>  
> Get out the schematic and follow the circuits from the Dolby switch. See where the circuits go for Dolby B and Dolby OFF compared to where the circuit goes for Dolby C. The 581 was simple and the difference between Dolby ON and Dolby OFF was minimal. With Dolby ON there were only 1 or 2 caps that got switched into the circuit as I recall. That made it pretty easy to fix.
>  
> Aloha and good luck,
> Cheryl
> 
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com  [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ron
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 2:27 PM
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette  Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] 481Z
> 
> Peter, it is unlikely the problem is cased by the oscillator. I would suspect the Dolby 
> circuit (specifically, the Dolby C section). While it could be a bad cap, it could also 
> be a hairline crack in the PCB in that area. The latter can sometimes be diagnosed 
> by light tapping on the suspect PCB area and/or judicious application of a freezing 
> spray. 
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> -- Ron
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, February 17, 2014 8:19 AM, Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> I have a 481 Z which functions very well. Lately, however, while recording with the Dolby C it has developed some issues. The left channel is full of crackling noise and a hum. It still erases though. The right channel seems OK. In Dolby B or without NR the deck erases and records normally on all types of tapes. The two 472 caps in the bias oscillator have been replaced with the same value, same tolerance, same voltage high quality caps. No change. Otherwise the deck has not had any electronic repairs done to it. Can anyone give me an idea what it could be caused by and if there is a fix for it? Thanks
> 
> Peter
> 
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 20 19:06:57 2014
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 10:06:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] 481Z
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Wish I could help, but I don't have the 481Z service manual. You can try to locate all sections of 
the Dolby selector switch in the schematic, then trace which components are switched in when 
Dolby C position is selected. 

Good luck,

-- Ron






On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 3:05 PM, Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com> wrote:
 
Thanks, Cheryl and Ron,
>
>I've tried the spray, no change. The problem is that I can't identify the caps in the SM that go with the Dolby C. As I've mentioned the Dolby B works perfectly. The manual indicates a number of caps, some pp some electrolytic, some Mylar but all under the Dolby NR in general. There must be at least 50 all together for B and C, left and right. I got lost in the schematic while trying to follow the circuit from the switch. There are a no of big blue filter caps in the NR and as there are crackles in one channel while the other has just a plain hum some of them maybe responsible. I am not sure if I have the know-how to figure it out though. I don't often use the Dolby C for recording but this the only deck I have that has it so it's a pity. Fortunately the playback is OK and the B has not been affected so far. Thanks, anyway
>
>Peter
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com
>To: naktalk at naks.com
>Subject: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
>Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:19:41 -1000
>
>
>Hi Peter,
> 
>A few years ago I lost one of the channels on my 581 -- 
but only when Dolby was turned on. It sounded as you describe but was also very 
weak in volume. When Dolby was OFF it worked fine. The 581 is pretty easy 
(no Dolby C and no double Dolby).
> 
>It turned out to be one of the caps in the Dolby 
circuit -- but it was NOT an orange cap. If memory serves me correctly it some 
type of film cap and was either green or brown. 
> 
>Get out the schematic and follow the circuits from the 
Dolby switch. See where the circuits go for Dolby B and Dolby OFF compared to 
where the circuit goes for Dolby C. The 581 was simple and the difference 
between Dolby ON and Dolby OFF was minimal. With Dolby ON there were only 1 
or 2 caps that got switched into the circuit as I recall. That made it 
pretty easy to fix.
> 
>Aloha and good luck,
>Cheryl
>
>
>________________________________
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com 
[mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ron
>Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 2:27 PM
>To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette 
Decks
>Subject: Re: [naktalk] 481Z
>
>
>Peter, 
it is unlikely the problem is cased by the oscillator. I would suspect the Dolby 
>circuit (specifically, the Dolby C section). While it could be a bad cap, it 
could also 
>be a hairline crack in the PCB in that area. The latter can 
sometimes be diagnosed 
>by light tapping on the suspect PCB area and/or 
judicious application of a freezing 
>spray. 
>
>Good luck,
>
>-- 
Ron
>
>
>
>
>
>On Monday, February 17, 2014 8:19 AM, Peter 
Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
>>Hi everybody,
>>
>>I have a 481 Z which functions very well. 
  Lately, however, while recording with the Dolby C it has developed some 
  issues. The left channel is full of crackling noise and a hum. It still erases 
  though. The right channel seems OK. In Dolby B or without NR the deck erases 
  and records normally on all types of tapes. The two 472 caps in the bias 
  oscillator have been replaced with the same value, same tolerance, same 
  voltage high quality caps. No change. Otherwise the deck has not had any 
  electronic repairs done to it. Can anyone give me an idea what it could be 
  caused by and if there is a fix for it? 
  Thanks
>>
>>Peter
>>
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From kaupp240 at hotmail.com  Thu Feb 20 19:14:24 2014
From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com (Cheryl Kaupp)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 08:14:24 -1000
Subject: [naktalk] 481Z
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BTW, I had already replaced ALL of the orange film caps in my 581 when I
started looking elsewhere for the problem. Replacing all the orange caps did
not fix the problem.
 
Aloha,
Cheryl

  _____  

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Peter Tanner
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 1:43 AM
To: naktalk naktalk
Subject: RE: [naktalk] 481Z


Thanks, Cheryl and Ron,

I've tried the spray, no change. The problem is that I can't identify the
caps in the SM that go with the Dolby C. As I've mentioned the Dolby B works
perfectly. The manual indicates a number of caps, some pp some electrolytic,
some Mylar but all under the Dolby NR in general. There must be at least 50
all together for B and C, left and right. I got lost in the schematic while
trying to follow the circuit from the switch. There are a no of big blue
filter caps in the NR and as there are crackles in one channel while the
other has just a plain hum some of them maybe responsible. I am not sure if
I have the know-how to figure it out though. I don't often use the Dolby C
for recording but this the only deck I have that has it so it's a pity.
Fortunately the playback is OK and the B has not been affected so far.
Thanks, anyway

Peter


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From spok2000 at gmx.de  Fri Feb 21 12:14:50 2014
From: spok2000 at gmx.de (spok2000 at gmx.de)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 12:14:50 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] RE: 481Z (Peter Tanner)
In-Reply-To: <201402211125.s1LB7bOu005984@zxe.naks.com>
References: <201402211125.s1LB7bOu005984@zxe.naks.com>
Message-ID: <59A87D28-07A0-4D4C-9DE5-7A5BF305021C@gmx.de>


On 21.02.2014, at 12:25, naktalk-request at naks.com wrote:

> Peter,
> As I mentioned in my post, my Nak 480z had those symptoms when recording and playing back. Replacing all orange film caps (no small electrolytics were replaced) did the trick. Now it's working perfectly. Next thing on the agenda is to replace the idler rubber since it makes a squeal near the end of a FF or RW operation. 

Michael,
the squeal would most probably the "Nakamichi Squealing noise" issue. Go to the archives and download the service bulletin #0039.
It's no more than a drop of oil at the right place.
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From luis at peromarta.org  Fri Feb 21 12:41:30 2014
From: luis at peromarta.org (Luis Peromarta Regert)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 06:41:30 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] RE: 481Z (Peter Tanner)
In-Reply-To: <59A87D28-07A0-4D4C-9DE5-7A5BF305021C@gmx.de>
References: <201402211125.s1LB7bOu005984@zxe.naks.com>
	<59A87D28-07A0-4D4C-9DE5-7A5BF305021C@gmx.de>
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I believe the Nakamichi Squealing noise is in the play/stop transition. Not towards the end of FF/REW. 

Sent from iPhone. Pls excuse typos.

> El 21/02/2014, a las 06:14, "spok2000 at gmx.de" <spok2000 at gmx.de> escribió:
> 
> 
>> On 21.02.2014, at 12:25, naktalk-request at naks.com wrote:
>> 
>> Peter,
>> As I mentioned in my post, my Nak 480z had those symptoms when recording and playing back. Replacing all orange film caps (no small electrolytics were replaced) did the trick. Now it's working perfectly. Next thing on the agenda is to replace the idler rubber since it makes a squeal near the end of a FF or RW operation.
> 
> Michael,
> the squeal would most probably the "Nakamichi Squealing noise" issue. Go to the archives and download the service bulletin #0039.
> It's no more than a drop of oil at the right place.
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From pbtanner at hotmail.com  Fri Feb 21 16:48:07 2014
From: pbtanner at hotmail.com (Peter Tanner)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 15:48:07 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] RE: 481Z (Peter Tanner)
In-Reply-To: <59A87D28-07A0-4D4C-9DE5-7A5BF305021C@gmx.de>
References: <201402211125.s1LB7bOu005984@zxe.naks.com>,
	<59A87D28-07A0-4D4C-9DE5-7A5BF305021C@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <BLU173-W1C93C422275461B2B2927DF850@phx.gbl>

 As the Dolby B works perfectly in record and play back I'll try to find the caps that get switched in when the C is on first. If I can't then I'll change all the film caps in the Dolby circuit only although Cheryl said that she'd changed all the orange caps in her 581 that had the same symptoms and it did not solve the issue. As for the idler tire it works perfectly in this deck, no squealing noise. Thanks for the advice.

Peter


From: spok2000 at gmx.de
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 12:14:50 +0100
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] RE: 481Z (Peter Tanner)

 
On 21.02.2014, at 12:25, naktalk-request at naks.com wrote:
 
> Peter,
> As I mentioned in my post, my Nak 480z had those symptoms when recording and playing back. Replacing all orange film caps (no small electrolytics were replaced) did the trick. Now it's working perfectly. Next thing on the agenda is to replace the idler rubber since it makes a squeal near the end of a FF or RW operation. 
 
Michael,
the squeal would most probably the "Nakamichi Squealing noise" issue. Go to the archives and download the service bulletin #0039.
It's no more than a drop of oil at the right place.

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From kaupp240 at hotmail.com  Fri Feb 21 20:04:26 2014
From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com (Cheryl Kaupp)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:04:26 -1000
Subject: [naktalk] RE: 481Z (Peter Tanner)
In-Reply-To: <BLU173-W1C93C422275461B2B2927DF850@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP1711CF08037534A6214B27086850@phx.gbl>

 
Hi Peter,
 
After I changed all the orange caps I actually changed Dolby chips too. That
didn't work either. The only benefit to that was that my original Dolby
chips were soldered on and I socketed the replacements. I don't have a copy
of the 481z service manual or I'd look at the schematic too and see if 2
people looking at it are better than one. I looked on the wiki and there is
no SM for the 481z. Do you have an electronic copy?
 
Aloha,
Cheryl

  _____  

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Peter Tanner
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 5:48 AM
To: naktalk naktalk
Subject: RE: [naktalk] RE: 481Z (Peter Tanner)


 As the Dolby B works perfectly in record and play back I'll try to find the
caps that get switched in when the C is on first. If I can't then I'll
change all the film caps in the Dolby circuit only although Cheryl said that
she'd changed all the orange caps in her 581 that had the same symptoms and
it did not solve the issue. As for the idler tire it works perfectly in this
deck, no squealing noise. Thanks for the advice.

Peter



From: spok2000 at gmx.de
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 12:14:50 +0100
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] RE: 481Z (Peter Tanner)


 
On 21.02.2014, at 12:25, naktalk-request at naks.com wrote:
 
> Peter,
> As I mentioned in my post, my Nak 480z had those symptoms when recording
and playing back. Replacing all orange film caps (no small electrolytics
were replaced) did the trick. Now it's working perfectly. Next thing on the
agenda is to replace the idler rubber since it makes a squeal near the end
of a FF or RW operation. 
 
Michael,
the squeal would most probably the "Nakamichi Squealing noise" issue. Go to
the archives and download the service bulletin #0039.
It's no more than a drop of oil at the right place.

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From pbtanner at hotmail.com  Sat Feb 22 00:24:01 2014
From: pbtanner at hotmail.com (Peter Tanner)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 23:24:01 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] RE: 481Z (Peter Tanner)
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP1711CF08037534A6214B27086850@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU173-W1C93C422275461B2B2927DF850@phx.gbl>,
	<BLU0-SMTP1711CF08037534A6214B27086850@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU173-W386918117C713398FCF79DDF850@phx.gbl>

Hi Cheryl,

Yes, I do have an SM for the 481Z. It's about 9 MB. Not sure if I can upload it on this forum but I can try. Would you like me to send it? Appreciate your help. Re the orange caps. I did change the two in the bias oscillator as I had some high quality, 2% tolerance Wima caps. Made absolutely no difference. The original orange caps worked just fine. A clear example of ain't broke don't fix it. My 582 still has them and it works fine too. In fact it erases just as well as the eraser I got from Radio Shack a few years ago. And it records great too. The problem is it doesn't have C otherwise I would not bother.
Cheers
Peter

From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: RE: [naktalk] RE: 481Z (Peter Tanner)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:04:26 -1000








 
Hi Peter,
 
After I changed all the orange caps I actually changed 
Dolby chips too. That didn't work either. The only benefit to that was that my 
original Dolby chips were soldered on and I socketed the replacements. I don't 
have a copy of the 481z service manual or I'd look at the schematic too and see 
if 2 people looking at it are better than one. I looked on the wiki and 
there is no SM for the 481z. Do you have an electronic 
copy?
 
Aloha,
Cheryl




From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com 
[mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Peter 
Tanner
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 5:48 AM
To: naktalk 
naktalk
Subject: RE: [naktalk] RE: 481Z (Peter 
Tanner)



 As the Dolby B works perfectly in record and play back I'll 
try to find the caps that get switched in when the C is on first. If I can't 
then I'll change all the film caps in the Dolby circuit only although Cheryl 
said that she'd changed all the orange caps in her 581 that had the same 
symptoms and it did not solve the issue. As for the idler tire it works 
perfectly in this deck, no squealing noise. Thanks for the 
advice.

Peter



From: spok2000 at gmx.de
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 12:14:50 +0100
To: 
naktalk at naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] RE: 481Z (Peter Tanner)

 
On 21.02.2014, at 12:25, naktalk-request at naks.com wrote:
 
> Peter,
> As I mentioned in my post, my Nak 480z had those symptoms when recording and playing back. Replacing all orange film caps (no small electrolytics were replaced) did the trick. Now it's working perfectly. Next thing on the agenda is to replace the idler rubber since it makes a squeal near the end of a FF or RW operation. 
 
Michael,
the squeal would most probably the "Nakamichi Squealing noise" issue. Go to the archives and download the service bulletin #0039.
It's no more than a drop of oil at the right place.

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From kaupp240 at hotmail.com  Sat Feb 22 01:02:07 2014
From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com (Cheryl Kaupp)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 14:02:07 -1000
Subject: [naktalk] RE: 481Z (Peter Tanner)
In-Reply-To: <BLU173-W386918117C713398FCF79DDF850@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP17536BDAC05060FF24A7BCD86840@phx.gbl>

You can try sending it to naktalk so that it can get posted to the wiki.
You can also send it directly to me and we'll see what happens.
 
Kaupp240 at hotmail.com
 
Aloha,
Cheryl

  _____  

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Peter Tanner
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 1:24 PM
To: naktalk naktalk
Subject: RE: [naktalk] RE: 481Z (Peter Tanner)


Hi Cheryl,

Yes, I do have an SM for the 481Z. It's about 9 MB. Not sure if I can upload
it on this forum but I can try. Would you like me to send it? Appreciate
your help. Re the orange caps. I did change the two in the bias oscillator
as I had some high quality, 2% tolerance Wima caps. Made absolutely no
difference. The original orange caps worked just fine. A clear example of
ain't broke don't fix it. My 582 still has them and it works fine too. In
fact it erases just as well as the eraser I got from Radio Shack a few years
ago. And it records great too. The problem is it doesn't have C otherwise I
would not bother.
Cheers
Peter

 
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From pbtanner at hotmail.com  Sat Feb 22 13:40:41 2014
From: pbtanner at hotmail.com (Peter Tanner)
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 12:40:41 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] RE: 481Z (Peter Tanner)
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP17536BDAC05060FF24A7BCD86840@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU173-W386918117C713398FCF79DDF850@phx.gbl>,
	<BLU0-SMTP17536BDAC05060FF24A7BCD86840@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU173-W3214A32620A9FD9AC679B9DF840@phx.gbl>

Here it is. Not sure if it gets thru or how to notify Wouter.

From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: RE: [naktalk] RE: 481Z (Peter Tanner)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 14:02:07 -1000








You can try sending it to naktalk so that it can get 
posted to the wiki.
You can also send it directly to me and we'll see what 
happens.
 
Kaupp240 at hotmail.com
 
Aloha,
Cheryl



From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com 
[mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Peter 
Tanner
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 1:24 PM
To: naktalk 
naktalk
Subject: RE: [naktalk] RE: 481Z (Peter 
Tanner)



Hi Cheryl,

Yes, I do have an SM for the 481Z. It's about 9 
MB. Not sure if I can upload it on this forum but I can try. Would you like me 
to send it? Appreciate your help. Re the orange caps. I did change the two in 
the bias oscillator as I had some high quality, 2% tolerance Wima caps. Made 
absolutely no difference. The original orange caps worked just fine. A clear 
example of ain't broke don't fix it. My 582 still has them and it works fine 
too. In fact it erases just as well as the eraser I got from Radio Shack a few 
years ago. And it records great too. The problem is it doesn't have C otherwise 
I would not bother.
Cheers
Peter

 

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From kaupp240 at hotmail.com  Sat Feb 22 20:22:30 2014
From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com (Cheryl Kaupp)
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 09:22:30 -1000
Subject: [naktalk] RE: 481Z (Peter Tanner)
In-Reply-To: <BLU173-W3214A32620A9FD9AC679B9DF840@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP239FDCC9393D383C2153B9086840@phx.gbl>

It came through fine for me. I'll try to get a look at the schematic this
weekend.
 
Hopefully he will see it and grab it.
 
Aloha,
Cheryl

  _____  

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Peter Tanner
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 2:41 AM
To: naktalk naktalk
Subject: RE: [naktalk] RE: 481Z (Peter Tanner)


Here it is. Not sure if it gets thru or how to notify Wouter.


  _____  

From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: RE: [naktalk] RE: 481Z (Peter Tanner)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 14:02:07 -1000


You can try sending it to naktalk so that it can get posted to the wiki.
You can also send it directly to me and we'll see what happens.
 
Kaupp240 at hotmail.com
 
Aloha,
Cheryl

  _____  

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Peter Tanner
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 1:24 PM
To: naktalk naktalk
Subject: RE: [naktalk] RE: 481Z (Peter Tanner)


Hi Cheryl,

Yes, I do have an SM for the 481Z. It's about 9 MB. Not sure if I can upload
it on this forum but I can try. Would you like me to send it? Appreciate
your help. Re the orange caps. I did change the two in the bias oscillator
as I had some high quality, 2% tolerance Wima caps. Made absolutely no
difference. The original orange caps worked just fine. A clear example of
ain't broke don't fix it. My 582 still has them and it works fine too. In
fact it erases just as well as the eraser I got from Radio Shack a few years
ago. And it records great too. The problem is it doesn't have C otherwise I
would not bother.
Cheers
Peter

 

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From n.van.wijnen at gmail.com  Sat Feb 22 21:48:35 2014
From: n.van.wijnen at gmail.com (Norman van Wijnen)
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 21:48:35 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] RE: 481Z (Peter Tanner)
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP239FDCC9393D383C2153B9086840@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP239FDCC9393D383C2153B9086840@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1F8FB062-AA7D-4CB0-8F6F-908F0B83A126@gmail.com>

Hi Peter,
I will notify Wouter.
Thanks a lot for the manual

Best regards

Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

> Op 22 feb. 2014 om 20:22 heeft Cheryl Kaupp <kaupp240 at hotmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> It came through fine for me. I'll try to get a look at the schematic this weekend.
>  
> Hopefully he will see it and grab it.
>  
> Aloha,
> Cheryl
> 
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tanner
> Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 2:41 AM
> To: naktalk naktalk
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] RE: 481Z (Peter Tanner)
> 
> Here it is. Not sure if it gets thru or how to notify Wouter.
> 
> From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com
> To: naktalk at naks.com
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] RE: 481Z (Peter Tanner)
> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 14:02:07 -1000
> 
> You can try sending it to naktalk so that it can get posted to the wiki.
> You can also send it directly to me and we'll see what happens.
>  
> Kaupp240 at hotmail.com
>  
> Aloha,
> Cheryl
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tanner
> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 1:24 PM
> To: naktalk naktalk
> Subject: RE: [naktalk] RE: 481Z (Peter Tanner)
> 
> Hi Cheryl,
> 
> Yes, I do have an SM for the 481Z. It's about 9 MB. Not sure if I can upload it on this forum but I can try. Would you like me to send it? Appreciate your help. Re the orange caps. I did change the two in the bias oscillator as I had some high quality, 2% tolerance Wima caps. Made absolutely no difference. The original orange caps worked just fine. A clear example of ain't broke don't fix it. My 582 still has them and it works fine too. In fact it erases just as well as the eraser I got from Radio Shack a few years ago. And it records great too. The problem is it doesn't have C otherwise I would not bother.
> Cheers
> Peter
>  
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From scott.h.garner at lmco.com  Tue Feb 25 21:15:31 2014
From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com (Garner, Scott H)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 20:15:31 +0000
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
In-Reply-To: <BLU173-W20D50166BCC2500C65639EDF9B0@phx.gbl>
References: <1392683201.1367.YahooMailNeo@web160201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>,
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Peter,

I can help you but I need more info, can you supply more info on your problem.
Does the unit playback ok in all modes, NR off, b on or c on.
The unit records fine with the NR off or b on correct? With the unit in record mode do both sides sound ok then when you play the recorded tape back the one side is not working.
If you follow the schematic IC102 is used for dolby b and IC101 for dolby c, for the left channel, but the signal goes thru both no matter what NR is selected. If you can record at all the bias is fine and IC102 is good.

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tanner
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 6:43 AM
To: naktalk naktalk
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

Thanks, Cheryl and Ron,

I've tried the spray, no change. The problem is that I can't identify the caps in the SM that go with the Dolby C. As I've mentioned the Dolby B works perfectly. The manual indicates a number of caps, some pp some electrolytic, some Mylar but all under the Dolby NR in general. There must be at least 50 all together for B and C, left and right. I got lost in the schematic while trying to follow the circuit from the switch. There are a no of big blue filter caps in the NR and as there are crackles in one channel while the other has just a plain hum some of them maybe responsible. I am not sure if I have the know-how to figure it out though. I don't often use the Dolby C for recording but this the only deck I have that has it so it's a pity. Fortunately the playback is OK and the B has not been affected so far. Thanks, anyway

Peter
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From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com<mailto:kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com<mailto:naktalk at naks.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:19:41 -1000
Hi Peter,

A few years ago I lost one of the channels on my 581 -- but only when Dolby was turned on. It sounded as you describe but was also very weak in volume. When Dolby was OFF it worked fine. The 581 is pretty easy (no Dolby C and no double Dolby).

It turned out to be one of the caps in the Dolby circuit -- but it was NOT an orange cap. If memory serves me correctly it some type of film cap and was either green or brown.

Get out the schematic and follow the circuits from the Dolby switch. See where the circuits go for Dolby B and Dolby OFF compared to where the circuit goes for Dolby C. The 581 was simple and the difference between Dolby ON and Dolby OFF was minimal. With Dolby ON there were only 1 or 2 caps that got switched into the circuit as I recall. That made it pretty easy to fix.

Aloha and good luck,
Cheryl

________________________________
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 2:27 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] 481Z
Peter, it is unlikely the problem is cased by the oscillator. I would suspect the Dolby
circuit (specifically, the Dolby C section). While it could be a bad cap, it could also
be a hairline crack in the PCB in that area. The latter can sometimes be diagnosed
by light tapping on the suspect PCB area and/or judicious application of a freezing
spray.

Good luck,

-- Ron

On Monday, February 17, 2014 8:19 AM, Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com<mailto:pbtanner at hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi everybody,

I have a 481 Z which functions very well. Lately, however, while recording with the Dolby C it has developed some issues. The left channel is full of crackling noise and a hum. It still erases though. The right channel seems OK. In Dolby B or without NR the deck erases and records normally on all types of tapes. The two 472 caps in the bias oscillator have been replaced with the same value, same tolerance, same voltage high quality caps. No change. Otherwise the deck has not had any electronic repairs done to it. Can anyone give me an idea what it could be caused by and if there is a fix for it? Thanks

Peter

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From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com (Garner, Scott H)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 20:23:47 +0000
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
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Check c137


From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tanner
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 6:43 AM
To: naktalk naktalk
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

Thanks, Cheryl and Ron,

I've tried the spray, no change. The problem is that I can't identify the caps in the SM that go with the Dolby C. As I've mentioned the Dolby B works perfectly. The manual indicates a number of caps, some pp some electrolytic, some Mylar but all under the Dolby NR in general. There must be at least 50 all together for B and C, left and right. I got lost in the schematic while trying to follow the circuit from the switch. There are a no of big blue filter caps in the NR and as there are crackles in one channel while the other has just a plain hum some of them maybe responsible. I am not sure if I have the know-how to figure it out though. I don't often use the Dolby C for recording but this the only deck I have that has it so it's a pity. Fortunately the playback is OK and the B has not been affected so far. Thanks, anyway

Peter
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From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com<mailto:kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com<mailto:naktalk at naks.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:19:41 -1000
Hi Peter,

A few years ago I lost one of the channels on my 581 -- but only when Dolby was turned on. It sounded as you describe but was also very weak in volume. When Dolby was OFF it worked fine. The 581 is pretty easy (no Dolby C and no double Dolby).

It turned out to be one of the caps in the Dolby circuit -- but it was NOT an orange cap. If memory serves me correctly it some type of film cap and was either green or brown.

Get out the schematic and follow the circuits from the Dolby switch. See where the circuits go for Dolby B and Dolby OFF compared to where the circuit goes for Dolby C. The 581 was simple and the difference between Dolby ON and Dolby OFF was minimal. With Dolby ON there were only 1 or 2 caps that got switched into the circuit as I recall. That made it pretty easy to fix.

Aloha and good luck,
Cheryl

________________________________
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 2:27 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] 481Z
Peter, it is unlikely the problem is cased by the oscillator. I would suspect the Dolby
circuit (specifically, the Dolby C section). While it could be a bad cap, it could also
be a hairline crack in the PCB in that area. The latter can sometimes be diagnosed
by light tapping on the suspect PCB area and/or judicious application of a freezing
spray.

Good luck,

-- Ron

On Monday, February 17, 2014 8:19 AM, Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com<mailto:pbtanner at hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi everybody,

I have a 481 Z which functions very well. Lately, however, while recording with the Dolby C it has developed some issues. The left channel is full of crackling noise and a hum. It still erases though. The right channel seems OK. In Dolby B or without NR the deck erases and records normally on all types of tapes. The two 472 caps in the bias oscillator have been replaced with the same value, same tolerance, same voltage high quality caps. No change. Otherwise the deck has not had any electronic repairs done to it. Can anyone give me an idea what it could be caused by and if there is a fix for it? Thanks

Peter

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From patty at jbrudy.com  Tue Feb 25 23:16:39 2014
From: patty at jbrudy.com (Patty)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 14:16:39 -0800
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
In-Reply-To: <A8BA33D5C3959E45BDC166ED2FED44680BDF4677@HVXDSP21.us.lmco.com>
References: <1392683201.1367.YahooMailNeo@web160201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>,
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HI SCOTT,

 

CAN YOU EMAIL ME AT WORK patty at jbrudy.com

 

 

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From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Garner, Scott H
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 12:16 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

 

Peter,

 

I can help you but I need more info, can you supply more info on your
problem.

Does the unit playback ok in all modes, NR off, b on or c on.

The unit records fine with the NR off or b on correct? With the unit in
record mode do both sides sound ok then when you play the recorded tape back
the one side is not working.

If you follow the schematic IC102 is used for dolby b and IC101 for dolby c,
for the left channel, but the signal goes thru both no matter what NR is
selected. If you can record at all the bias is fine and IC102 is good.

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Peter Tanner
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 6:43 AM
To: naktalk naktalk
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

 

Thanks, Cheryl and Ron,

I've tried the spray, no change. The problem is that I can't identify the
caps in the SM that go with the Dolby C. As I've mentioned the Dolby B works
perfectly. The manual indicates a number of caps, some pp some electrolytic,
some Mylar but all under the Dolby NR in general. There must be at least 50
all together for B and C, left and right. I got lost in the schematic while
trying to follow the circuit from the switch. There are a no of big blue
filter caps in the NR and as there are crackles in one channel while the
other has just a plain hum some of them maybe responsible. I am not sure if
I have the know-how to figure it out though. I don't often use the Dolby C
for recording but this the only deck I have that has it so it's a pity.
Fortunately the playback is OK and the B has not been affected so far.
Thanks, anyway

Peter

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From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:19:41 -1000

Hi Peter,

 

A few years ago I lost one of the channels on my 581 -- but only when Dolby
was turned on. It sounded as you describe but was also very weak in volume.
When Dolby was OFF it worked fine. The 581 is pretty easy (no Dolby C and no
double Dolby).

 

It turned out to be one of the caps in the Dolby circuit -- but it was NOT
an orange cap. If memory serves me correctly it some type of film cap and
was either green or brown. 

 

Get out the schematic and follow the circuits from the Dolby switch. See
where the circuits go for Dolby B and Dolby OFF compared to where the
circuit goes for Dolby C. The 581 was simple and the difference between
Dolby ON and Dolby OFF was minimal. With Dolby ON there were only 1 or 2
caps that got switched into the circuit as I recall. That made it pretty
easy to fix.

 

Aloha and good luck,

Cheryl

 

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From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Ron
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 2:27 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] 481Z

Peter, it is unlikely the problem is cased by the oscillator. I would
suspect the Dolby 
circuit (specifically, the Dolby C section). While it could be a bad cap, it
could also 
be a hairline crack in the PCB in that area. The latter can sometimes be
diagnosed 
by light tapping on the suspect PCB area and/or judicious application of a
freezing 
spray. 

Good luck,

-- Ron

 

On Monday, February 17, 2014 8:19 AM, Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com>
wrote:

Hi everybody,

I have a 481 Z which functions very well. Lately, however, while recording
with the Dolby C it has developed some issues. The left channel is full of
crackling noise and a hum. It still erases though. The right channel seems
OK. In Dolby B or without NR the deck erases and records normally on all
types of tapes. The two 472 caps in the bias oscillator have been replaced
with the same value, same tolerance, same voltage high quality caps. No
change. Otherwise the deck has not had any electronic repairs done to it.
Can anyone give me an idea what it could be caused by and if there is a fix
for it? Thanks

Peter


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From pbtanner at hotmail.com  Wed Feb 26 13:44:54 2014
From: pbtanner at hotmail.com (Peter Tanner)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 12:44:54 +0000
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
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	<BLU173-W20D50166BCC2500C65639EDF9B0@phx.gbl>,
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Hello Scott,

Yes, the unit plays back in all modes on both channels perfectly. NR off, Dolby B on or Dolby C on. It erases and records perfectly on both channels with NR off or in Dolby B. In Dolby C however it erases but records a lot of crackles and a hum on the left channel while there is a slight hum in the right channel as well but no crackles. So the only problem I have is recording in Dolby C. That is the issue. Tapes that have been recorded earlier or tapes that have been recorded on other machines using Dolby C play back perfectly. Thanks

Peter

From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 20:15:31 +0000









Peter,
 
I can help you but I need more info, can you supply more info on your problem.
Does the unit playback ok in all modes, NR off, b on or c on.
The unit records fine with the NR off or b on correct? With the unit in record mode do both sides sound ok then when you play the recorded tape back the one
 side is not working.
If you follow the schematic IC102 is used for dolby b and IC101 for dolby c, for the left channel, but the signal goes thru both no matter what NR is selected.
 If you can record at all the bias is fine and IC102 is good.
 


From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Tanner

Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 6:43 AM

To: naktalk naktalk

Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z


 

Thanks, Cheryl and Ron,



I've tried the spray, no change. The problem is that I can't identify the caps in the SM that go with the Dolby C. As I've mentioned the Dolby B works perfectly. The manual indicates a number of caps, some pp some electrolytic, some Mylar but all under the
 Dolby NR in general. There must be at least 50 all together for B and C, left and right. I got lost in the schematic while trying to follow the circuit from the switch. There are a no of big blue filter caps in the NR and as there are crackles in one channel
 while the other has just a plain hum some of them maybe responsible. I am not sure if I have the know-how to figure it out though. I don't often use the Dolby C for recording but this the only deck I have that has it so it's a pity. Fortunately the playback
 is OK and the B has not been affected so far. Thanks, anyway



Peter




From:
kaupp240 at hotmail.com

To: naktalk at naks.com

Subject: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:19:41 -1000
Hi Peter,
 
A few years ago I lost one of the channels on my 581 -- but only when Dolby was turned on. It sounded as you describe but was
 also very weak in volume. When Dolby was OFF it worked fine. The 581 is pretty easy (no Dolby C and no double Dolby).
 
It turned out to be one of the caps in the Dolby circuit -- but it was NOT an orange cap. If memory serves me correctly it some
 type of film cap and was either green or brown. 
 
Get out the schematic and follow the circuits from the Dolby switch. See where the circuits go for Dolby B and Dolby OFF compared
 to where the circuit goes for Dolby C. The 581 was simple and the difference between Dolby ON and Dolby OFF was minimal. With Dolby ON there were only 1 or 2 caps that got switched into the circuit as I recall. That made it pretty easy to fix.
 
Aloha and good luck,
Cheryl
 



From:
naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]
On Behalf Of Ron

Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 2:27 PM

To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks

Subject: Re: [naktalk] 481Z

Peter, it is unlikely the problem is cased by the oscillator. I would suspect the Dolby


circuit (specifically, the Dolby C section). While it could be a bad cap, it could also


be a hairline crack in the PCB in that area. The latter can sometimes be diagnosed


by light tapping on the suspect PCB area and/or judicious application of a freezing


spray. 



Good luck,



-- Ron

 



On Monday, February 17, 2014 8:19 AM, Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com> wrote:






Hi everybody,



I have a 481 Z which functions very well. Lately, however, while recording with the Dolby C it has developed some issues. The left channel is full of crackling noise and a hum. It still erases though. The right channel seems OK. In Dolby B or without NR the
 deck erases and records normally on all types of tapes. The two 472 caps in the bias oscillator have been replaced with the same value, same tolerance, same voltage high quality caps. No change. Otherwise the deck has not had any electronic repairs done to
 it. Can anyone give me an idea what it could be caused by and if there is a fix for it? Thanks



Peter





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From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com (Garner, Scott H)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:05:49 +0000
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
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Peter,
A slight correction to my first email, I meant IC101 is used for B and C, IC102 is for C only.  The signal passes thru both no matter what NR is selected. When NR is off D101 and D104 are biased on thus turning off the noise shaping of both dolby chips. Also Q106, Q107 and Q108 are turned on thus setting the noise shaping of IC101 to the dolby b mode but since D101 is biased on the chip remains in the noise shaping off mode. When the dolby switch is set to On/B mode the bias on D101 is removed thus turning the noise shaping on for IC101 which is still set to B mode cause Q106, 107 and 108 are still on. Setting the dolby c on turns off Q106, 107 and Q108 setting the noise shaping of IC101 to c mode, also the bias on D104 is removed turning on the noise shaping of IC102. At the sametime Q105, 704 and 111 are turned on. This is where I think your problem is. If you look at Q704 when it is turned on it is putting a filter made up of C119, R715 and L701 in circuit but only when the unit is in record mode via SW301, the play/record switch. C119 is a PP cap, they go bad a lot. I would replace that cap. If you don't have one on hand just remove it and see if your noise goes away. In a early email I stated to check C137, don't bother that cap is used in both record and play, I missed that the first time I look over the schematic. I hope that helps you understand what is happening in the dolby circuit.
Scott


From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tanner
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:45 AM
To: naktalk naktalk
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

Hello Scott,

Yes, the unit plays back in all modes on both channels perfectly. NR off, Dolby B on or Dolby C on. It erases and records perfectly on both channels with NR off or in Dolby B. In Dolby C however it erases but records a lot of crackles and a hum on the left channel while there is a slight hum in the right channel as well but no crackles. So the only problem I have is recording in Dolby C. That is the issue. Tapes that have been recorded earlier or tapes that have been recorded on other machines using Dolby C play back perfectly. Thanks

Peter
________________________________
From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com<mailto:scott.h.garner at lmco.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com<mailto:naktalk at naks.com>
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 20:15:31 +0000
Peter,

I can help you but I need more info, can you supply more info on your problem.
Does the unit playback ok in all modes, NR off, b on or c on.
The unit records fine with the NR off or b on correct? With the unit in record mode do both sides sound ok then when you play the recorded tape back the one side is not working.
If you follow the schematic IC102 is used for dolby b and IC101 for dolby c, for the left channel, but the signal goes thru both no matter what NR is selected. If you can record at all the bias is fine and IC102 is good.

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tanner
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 6:43 AM
To: naktalk naktalk
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

Thanks, Cheryl and Ron,

I've tried the spray, no change. The problem is that I can't identify the caps in the SM that go with the Dolby C. As I've mentioned the Dolby B works perfectly. The manual indicates a number of caps, some pp some electrolytic, some Mylar but all under the Dolby NR in general. There must be at least 50 all together for B and C, left and right. I got lost in the schematic while trying to follow the circuit from the switch. There are a no of big blue filter caps in the NR and as there are crackles in one channel while the other has just a plain hum some of them maybe responsible. I am not sure if I have the know-how to figure it out though. I don't often use the Dolby C for recording but this the only deck I have that has it so it's a pity. Fortunately the playback is OK and the B has not been affected so far. Thanks, anyway

Peter
________________________________
From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com<mailto:kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com<mailto:naktalk at naks.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:19:41 -1000
Hi Peter,

A few years ago I lost one of the channels on my 581 -- but only when Dolby was turned on. It sounded as you describe but was also very weak in volume. When Dolby was OFF it worked fine. The 581 is pretty easy (no Dolby C and no double Dolby).

It turned out to be one of the caps in the Dolby circuit -- but it was NOT an orange cap. If memory serves me correctly it some type of film cap and was either green or brown.

Get out the schematic and follow the circuits from the Dolby switch. See where the circuits go for Dolby B and Dolby OFF compared to where the circuit goes for Dolby C. The 581 was simple and the difference between Dolby ON and Dolby OFF was minimal. With Dolby ON there were only 1 or 2 caps that got switched into the circuit as I recall. That made it pretty easy to fix.

Aloha and good luck,
Cheryl

________________________________
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 2:27 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] 481Z
Peter, it is unlikely the problem is cased by the oscillator. I would suspect the Dolby
circuit (specifically, the Dolby C section). While it could be a bad cap, it could also
be a hairline crack in the PCB in that area. The latter can sometimes be diagnosed
by light tapping on the suspect PCB area and/or judicious application of a freezing
spray.

Good luck,

-- Ron

On Monday, February 17, 2014 8:19 AM, Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com<mailto:pbtanner at hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi everybody,

I have a 481 Z which functions very well. Lately, however, while recording with the Dolby C it has developed some issues. The left channel is full of crackling noise and a hum. It still erases though. The right channel seems OK. In Dolby B or without NR the deck erases and records normally on all types of tapes. The two 472 caps in the bias oscillator have been replaced with the same value, same tolerance, same voltage high quality caps. No change. Otherwise the deck has not had any electronic repairs done to it. Can anyone give me an idea what it could be caused by and if there is a fix for it? Thanks

Peter

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From pbtanner at hotmail.com  Wed Feb 26 18:29:16 2014
From: pbtanner at hotmail.com (Peter Tanner)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 17:29:16 +0000
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
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Gosh, thanks a million, Scott. This has been about the most precise description of the Dolby circuit I've ever seen. I would not have the knowledge for figuring it out just by looking at the SM. When you said C 137 I proceeded to remove two of them off a donor board. They are Mylars but have not put them into the 481Z. The C119 is an orange cap 1800p. I don't have a new one unfortunately but I have one or two from this donor board but that means it's not sure if they are good. I'll try to get hold of a couple of new ones. In the meantime I'll do what you suggest and remove the one in the 481Z. Question. By removing it then turning the deck back on I am not going to blow that Q704, by any chance? Or any other transistor? And the 1's like 119, 137 etc relate to the left channel while the 2's to the right, correct? Thanks again

Peter

From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:05:49 +0000









Peter,
A slight correction to my first email, I meant IC101 is used for B and C, IC102 is for C only.  The signal passes thru both no matter what NR is selected. When
 NR is off D101 and D104 are biased on thus turning off the noise shaping of both dolby chips. Also Q106, Q107 and Q108 are turned on thus setting the noise shaping of IC101 to the dolby b mode but since D101 is biased on the chip remains in the noise shaping
 off mode. When the dolby switch is set to On/B mode the bias on D101 is removed thus turning the noise shaping on for IC101 which is still set to B mode cause Q106, 107 and 108 are still on. Setting the dolby c on turns off Q106, 107 and Q108 setting the noise
 shaping of IC101 to c mode, also the bias on D104 is removed turning on the noise shaping of IC102. At the sametime Q105, 704 and 111 are turned on. This is where I think your problem is. If you look at Q704 when it is turned on it is putting a filter made
 up of C119, R715 and L701 in circuit but only when the unit is in record mode via SW301, the play/record switch. C119 is a PP cap, they go bad a lot. I would replace that cap. If you don’t have one on hand just remove it and see if your noise goes away. In
 a early email I stated to check C137, don’t bother that cap is used in both record and play, I missed that the first time I look over the schematic. I hope that helps you understand what is happening in the dolby circuit.
Scott
 
 


From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Tanner

Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:45 AM

To: naktalk naktalk

Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z


 

Hello Scott,



Yes, the unit plays back in all modes on both channels perfectly. NR off, Dolby B on or Dolby C on. It erases and records perfectly on both channels with NR off or in Dolby B. In Dolby C however it erases but records a lot of crackles and a hum on the left
 channel while there is a slight hum in the right channel as well but no crackles. So the only problem I have is recording in Dolby C. That is the issue. Tapes that have been recorded earlier or tapes that have been recorded on other machines using Dolby C
 play back perfectly. Thanks



Peter




From:
scott.h.garner at lmco.com

To: naktalk at naks.com

Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 20:15:31 +0000

Peter,
 
I can help you but I need more info, can you supply more info on your problem.
Does the unit playback ok in all modes, NR off, b on or c on.
The unit records fine with the NR off or b on correct? With the unit in record mode do both sides sound ok then when you play the recorded tape back the one
 side is not working.
If you follow the schematic IC102 is used for dolby b and IC101 for dolby c, for the left channel, but the signal goes thru both no matter what NR is selected.
 If you can record at all the bias is fine and IC102 is good.
 


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On Behalf Of Peter Tanner

Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 6:43 AM

To: naktalk naktalk

Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z


 

Thanks, Cheryl and Ron,



I've tried the spray, no change. The problem is that I can't identify the caps in the SM that go with the Dolby C. As I've mentioned the Dolby B works perfectly. The manual indicates a number of caps, some pp some electrolytic, some Mylar but all under the
 Dolby NR in general. There must be at least 50 all together for B and C, left and right. I got lost in the schematic while trying to follow the circuit from the switch. There are a no of big blue filter caps in the NR and as there are crackles in one channel
 while the other has just a plain hum some of them maybe responsible. I am not sure if I have the know-how to figure it out though. I don't often use the Dolby C for recording but this the only deck I have that has it so it's a pity. Fortunately the playback
 is OK and the B has not been affected so far. Thanks, anyway



Peter




From: 
kaupp240 at hotmail.com

To: naktalk at naks.com

Subject: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:19:41 -1000
Hi Peter,
 
A few years ago I lost one of the channels on my 581 -- but only when Dolby was turned on. It sounded as you describe but was
 also very weak in volume. When Dolby was OFF it worked fine. The 581 is pretty easy (no Dolby C and no double Dolby).
 
It turned out to be one of the caps in the Dolby circuit -- but it was NOT an orange cap. If memory serves me correctly it some
 type of film cap and was either green or brown. 
 
Get out the schematic and follow the circuits from the Dolby switch. See where the circuits go for Dolby B and Dolby OFF compared
 to where the circuit goes for Dolby C. The 581 was simple and the difference between Dolby ON and Dolby OFF was minimal. With Dolby ON there were only 1 or 2 caps that got switched into the circuit as I recall. That made it pretty easy to fix.
 
Aloha and good luck,
Cheryl
 



From:
naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]
On Behalf Of Ron

Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 2:27 PM

To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks

Subject: Re: [naktalk] 481Z

Peter, it is unlikely the problem is cased by the oscillator. I would suspect the Dolby


circuit (specifically, the Dolby C section). While it could be a bad cap, it could also


be a hairline crack in the PCB in that area. The latter can sometimes be diagnosed


by light tapping on the suspect PCB area and/or judicious application of a freezing


spray. 



Good luck,



-- Ron

 



On Monday, February 17, 2014 8:19 AM, Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com> wrote:






Hi everybody,



I have a 481 Z which functions very well. Lately, however, while recording with the Dolby C it has developed some issues. The left channel is full of crackling noise and a hum. It still erases though. The right channel seems OK. In Dolby B or without NR the
 deck erases and records normally on all types of tapes. The two 472 caps in the bias oscillator have been replaced with the same value, same tolerance, same voltage high quality caps. No change. Otherwise the deck has not had any electronic repairs done to
 it. Can anyone give me an idea what it could be caused by and if there is a fix for it? Thanks



Peter





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From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com (Garner, Scott H)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 19:05:15 +0000
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
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Peter,

You are correct, the 2's are for the right channel and the 1's are for the left. Q704 will be fine with C119 removed.

Here is the signal flow thru the dolby chips. If you look at the uA7300 chips you will see the block diagram of what is inside of the chip. To simplify my description I am going to label the op amps in the chips as follows:
Op amp between pins 9, 10 and 11 will be number 1.
Op amp whose input is pin 12 will be number 2.
Op amp whose output is pin 14 will be number 3, this op amp is feed from op amp number 2.
Op amp whose output is pin 16 will be number 4, this op amp is feed from op amp number 3.
The other 2 op amps in the chip we don't have to worry about, they are used in the noise shaping feedback section. For the sake of this description I am going to leave them out.

Ok for playback mode here we go:
Note: The schematic shows the Play/Record switch, SW301, in the record position.
The signal from the play head enters op amp number 1 of IC102. It leaves op amp 1 and goes to op amp 2 of IC102. Op amp 2 feeds op amp 3 of IC102, the signal then leaves op amp 3 via pin 14, goes thru C140 goes to C115 and enters op amp number 1 of IC101. It then leaves op amp 1 and goes to op amp number 2 of IC101 via R125. It then leaves op amp 2 and enters op amp 3 of IC101. It then leaves op amp 3 of IC101 via pin 14, thru C120 then to the outputs via Switch 301. Yes op amp number 4 is not used during playback.

For record:
The signal from the line input enters op amp 1 of IC101. It then leaves op amp 1 and enters op amp 2 of IC101 via R125, at the same time the signal leaving op amp 1 is sent to the line out via R126 and SW301. The signal leaves op amp 2 of IC101 and enters op amp 3 of IC101. It then leaves op amp 3 and enters op amp 4 of IC101. It then leaves op amp 4 of IC101 via C133 and goes to op amp 2 of IC102. From there it enters op amp 3 of IC102 then out of op amp 3 and into op amp 4 of IC102. The signal then leaves op amp 4 via pin 16 on its way to the eq, bias and record head.

Scott

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tanner
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 12:29 PM
To: naktalk naktalk
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

Gosh, thanks a million, Scott. This has been about the most precise description of the Dolby circuit I've ever seen. I would not have the knowledge for figuring it out just by looking at the SM. When you said C 137 I proceeded to remove two of them off a donor board. They are Mylars but have not put them into the 481Z. The C119 is an orange cap 1800p. I don't have a new one unfortunately but I have one or two from this donor board but that means it's not sure if they are good. I'll try to get hold of a couple of new ones. In the meantime I'll do what you suggest and remove the one in the 481Z. Question. By removing it then turning the deck back on I am not going to blow that Q704, by any chance? Or any other transistor? And the 1's like 119, 137 etc relate to the left channel while the 2's to the right, correct? Thanks again

Peter
________________________________
From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com<mailto:scott.h.garner at lmco.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com<mailto:naktalk at naks.com>
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:05:49 +0000
Peter,
A slight correction to my first email, I meant IC101 is used for B and C, IC102 is for C only.  The signal passes thru both no matter what NR is selected. When NR is off D101 and D104 are biased on thus turning off the noise shaping of both dolby chips. Also Q106, Q107 and Q108 are turned on thus setting the noise shaping of IC101 to the dolby b mode but since D101 is biased on the chip remains in the noise shaping off mode. When the dolby switch is set to On/B mode the bias on D101 is removed thus turning the noise shaping on for IC101 which is still set to B mode cause Q106, 107 and 108 are still on. Setting the dolby c on turns off Q106, 107 and Q108 setting the noise shaping of IC101 to c mode, also the bias on D104 is removed turning on the noise shaping of IC102. At the sametime Q105, 704 and 111 are turned on. This is where I think your problem is. If you look at Q704 when it is turned on it is putting a filter made up of C119, R715 and L701 in circuit but only when the unit is in record mode via SW301, the play/record switch. C119 is a PP cap, they go bad a lot. I would replace that cap. If you don't have one on hand just remove it and see if your noise goes away. In a early email I stated to check C137, don't bother that cap is used in both record and play, I missed that the first time I look over the schematic. I hope that helps you understand what is happening in the dolby circuit.
Scott


From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tanner
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:45 AM
To: naktalk naktalk
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

Hello Scott,

Yes, the unit plays back in all modes on both channels perfectly. NR off, Dolby B on or Dolby C on. It erases and records perfectly on both channels with NR off or in Dolby B. In Dolby C however it erases but records a lot of crackles and a hum on the left channel while there is a slight hum in the right channel as well but no crackles. So the only problem I have is recording in Dolby C. That is the issue. Tapes that have been recorded earlier or tapes that have been recorded on other machines using Dolby C play back perfectly. Thanks

Peter
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From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com<mailto:scott.h.garner at lmco.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com<mailto:naktalk at naks.com>
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 20:15:31 +0000
Peter,

I can help you but I need more info, can you supply more info on your problem.
Does the unit playback ok in all modes, NR off, b on or c on.
The unit records fine with the NR off or b on correct? With the unit in record mode do both sides sound ok then when you play the recorded tape back the one side is not working.
If you follow the schematic IC102 is used for dolby b and IC101 for dolby c, for the left channel, but the signal goes thru both no matter what NR is selected. If you can record at all the bias is fine and IC102 is good.

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tanner
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 6:43 AM
To: naktalk naktalk
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

Thanks, Cheryl and Ron,

I've tried the spray, no change. The problem is that I can't identify the caps in the SM that go with the Dolby C. As I've mentioned the Dolby B works perfectly. The manual indicates a number of caps, some pp some electrolytic, some Mylar but all under the Dolby NR in general. There must be at least 50 all together for B and C, left and right. I got lost in the schematic while trying to follow the circuit from the switch. There are a no of big blue filter caps in the NR and as there are crackles in one channel while the other has just a plain hum some of them maybe responsible. I am not sure if I have the know-how to figure it out though. I don't often use the Dolby C for recording but this the only deck I have that has it so it's a pity. Fortunately the playback is OK and the B has not been affected so far. Thanks, anyway

Peter
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From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com<mailto:kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com<mailto:naktalk at naks.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:19:41 -1000
Hi Peter,

A few years ago I lost one of the channels on my 581 -- but only when Dolby was turned on. It sounded as you describe but was also very weak in volume. When Dolby was OFF it worked fine. The 581 is pretty easy (no Dolby C and no double Dolby).

It turned out to be one of the caps in the Dolby circuit -- but it was NOT an orange cap. If memory serves me correctly it some type of film cap and was either green or brown.

Get out the schematic and follow the circuits from the Dolby switch. See where the circuits go for Dolby B and Dolby OFF compared to where the circuit goes for Dolby C. The 581 was simple and the difference between Dolby ON and Dolby OFF was minimal. With Dolby ON there were only 1 or 2 caps that got switched into the circuit as I recall. That made it pretty easy to fix.

Aloha and good luck,
Cheryl

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From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 2:27 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] 481Z
Peter, it is unlikely the problem is cased by the oscillator. I would suspect the Dolby
circuit (specifically, the Dolby C section). While it could be a bad cap, it could also
be a hairline crack in the PCB in that area. The latter can sometimes be diagnosed
by light tapping on the suspect PCB area and/or judicious application of a freezing
spray.

Good luck,

-- Ron

On Monday, February 17, 2014 8:19 AM, Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com<mailto:pbtanner at hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi everybody,

I have a 481 Z which functions very well. Lately, however, while recording with the Dolby C it has developed some issues. The left channel is full of crackling noise and a hum. It still erases though. The right channel seems OK. In Dolby B or without NR the deck erases and records normally on all types of tapes. The two 472 caps in the bias oscillator have been replaced with the same value, same tolerance, same voltage high quality caps. No change. Otherwise the deck has not had any electronic repairs done to it. Can anyone give me an idea what it could be caused by and if there is a fix for it? Thanks

Peter

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From icmllc at gmail.com  Wed Feb 26 20:46:16 2014
From: icmllc at gmail.com (Ashvin)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 13:46:16 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9/7
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I am looking for knobs for my ZX-9.

Any suggestions please


From bobschneider8 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 26 21:49:34 2014
From: bobschneider8 at gmail.com (Robert Schneider)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:49:34 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9/7
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If anyone has a parts unit, I could use the internal part of the asumith 
control - the plastic covered metal strap that runs from the front panel 
control to the headblock.  I'm happy to pay a reasonable price plus 
shipping for this part.

Thanks!

On 2/26/14, 1:46 PM, Ashvin wrote:
> I am looking for knobs for my ZX-9.
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From scott.h.garner at lmco.com  Wed Feb 26 21:22:25 2014
From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com (Garner, Scott H)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 20:22:25 +0000
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
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Peter,
That description is mainly for the control circuit to set the NR mode. I sent another email describing the signal flow.
Scott

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tanner
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 12:29 PM
To: naktalk naktalk
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

Gosh, thanks a million, Scott. This has been about the most precise description of the Dolby circuit I've ever seen. I would not have the knowledge for figuring it out just by looking at the SM. When you said C 137 I proceeded to remove two of them off a donor board. They are Mylars but have not put them into the 481Z. The C119 is an orange cap 1800p. I don't have a new one unfortunately but I have one or two from this donor board but that means it's not sure if they are good. I'll try to get hold of a couple of new ones. In the meantime I'll do what you suggest and remove the one in the 481Z. Question. By removing it then turning the deck back on I am not going to blow that Q704, by any chance? Or any other transistor? And the 1's like 119, 137 etc relate to the left channel while the 2's to the right, correct? Thanks again

Peter
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From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com<mailto:scott.h.garner at lmco.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com<mailto:naktalk at naks.com>
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:05:49 +0000
Peter,
A slight correction to my first email, I meant IC101 is used for B and C, IC102 is for C only.  The signal passes thru both no matter what NR is selected. When NR is off D101 and D104 are biased on thus turning off the noise shaping of both dolby chips. Also Q106, Q107 and Q108 are turned on thus setting the noise shaping of IC101 to the dolby b mode but since D101 is biased on the chip remains in the noise shaping off mode. When the dolby switch is set to On/B mode the bias on D101 is removed thus turning the noise shaping on for IC101 which is still set to B mode cause Q106, 107 and 108 are still on. Setting the dolby c on turns off Q106, 107 and Q108 setting the noise shaping of IC101 to c mode, also the bias on D104 is removed turning on the noise shaping of IC102. At the sametime Q105, 704 and 111 are turned on. This is where I think your problem is. If you look at Q704 when it is turned on it is putting a filter made up of C119, R715 and L701 in circuit but only when the unit is in record mode via SW301, the play/record switch. C119 is a PP cap, they go bad a lot. I would replace that cap. If you don't have one on hand just remove it and see if your noise goes away. In a early email I stated to check C137, don't bother that cap is used in both record and play, I missed that the first time I look over the schematic. I hope that helps you understand what is happening in the dolby circuit.
Scott


From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tanner
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:45 AM
To: naktalk naktalk
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

Hello Scott,

Yes, the unit plays back in all modes on both channels perfectly. NR off, Dolby B on or Dolby C on. It erases and records perfectly on both channels with NR off or in Dolby B. In Dolby C however it erases but records a lot of crackles and a hum on the left channel while there is a slight hum in the right channel as well but no crackles. So the only problem I have is recording in Dolby C. That is the issue. Tapes that have been recorded earlier or tapes that have been recorded on other machines using Dolby C play back perfectly. Thanks

Peter
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From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com<mailto:scott.h.garner at lmco.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com<mailto:naktalk at naks.com>
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 20:15:31 +0000
Peter,

I can help you but I need more info, can you supply more info on your problem.
Does the unit playback ok in all modes, NR off, b on or c on.
The unit records fine with the NR off or b on correct? With the unit in record mode do both sides sound ok then when you play the recorded tape back the one side is not working.
If you follow the schematic IC102 is used for dolby b and IC101 for dolby c, for the left channel, but the signal goes thru both no matter what NR is selected. If you can record at all the bias is fine and IC102 is good.

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tanner
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 6:43 AM
To: naktalk naktalk
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

Thanks, Cheryl and Ron,

I've tried the spray, no change. The problem is that I can't identify the caps in the SM that go with the Dolby C. As I've mentioned the Dolby B works perfectly. The manual indicates a number of caps, some pp some electrolytic, some Mylar but all under the Dolby NR in general. There must be at least 50 all together for B and C, left and right. I got lost in the schematic while trying to follow the circuit from the switch. There are a no of big blue filter caps in the NR and as there are crackles in one channel while the other has just a plain hum some of them maybe responsible. I am not sure if I have the know-how to figure it out though. I don't often use the Dolby C for recording but this the only deck I have that has it so it's a pity. Fortunately the playback is OK and the B has not been affected so far. Thanks, anyway

Peter
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From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com<mailto:kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com<mailto:naktalk at naks.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:19:41 -1000
Hi Peter,

A few years ago I lost one of the channels on my 581 -- but only when Dolby was turned on. It sounded as you describe but was also very weak in volume. When Dolby was OFF it worked fine. The 581 is pretty easy (no Dolby C and no double Dolby).

It turned out to be one of the caps in the Dolby circuit -- but it was NOT an orange cap. If memory serves me correctly it some type of film cap and was either green or brown.

Get out the schematic and follow the circuits from the Dolby switch. See where the circuits go for Dolby B and Dolby OFF compared to where the circuit goes for Dolby C. The 581 was simple and the difference between Dolby ON and Dolby OFF was minimal. With Dolby ON there were only 1 or 2 caps that got switched into the circuit as I recall. That made it pretty easy to fix.

Aloha and good luck,
Cheryl

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From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 2:27 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] 481Z
Peter, it is unlikely the problem is cased by the oscillator. I would suspect the Dolby
circuit (specifically, the Dolby C section). While it could be a bad cap, it could also
be a hairline crack in the PCB in that area. The latter can sometimes be diagnosed
by light tapping on the suspect PCB area and/or judicious application of a freezing
spray.

Good luck,

-- Ron

On Monday, February 17, 2014 8:19 AM, Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com<mailto:pbtanner at hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi everybody,

I have a 481 Z which functions very well. Lately, however, while recording with the Dolby C it has developed some issues. The left channel is full of crackling noise and a hum. It still erases though. The right channel seems OK. In Dolby B or without NR the deck erases and records normally on all types of tapes. The two 472 caps in the bias oscillator have been replaced with the same value, same tolerance, same voltage high quality caps. No change. Otherwise the deck has not had any electronic repairs done to it. Can anyone give me an idea what it could be caused by and if there is a fix for it? Thanks

Peter

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From: pbtanner at hotmail.com (Peter Tanner)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 10:56:25 +0000
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
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Hi Scott,

Yes, by removing C119 the clicks and crackles stopped. I've put in another 1800pF cap and the left channel is now good. No hum at all. The right channel has a hum though so I'll probably have to change C219 as well. Still in Dolby C only. As soon as I get new caps I'll change both including the C119 as the replacement cap is also an orange one and although it's working now it will probably fail again. By the way, in this deck on the board C119 and C219 are marked as C123 and C223 which is weird as those are electrolytic caps and are elsewhere. So  C123 and C223 show twice which was confusing. I actually had to blow up that part of the schematics to make sure. Again, thanks a lot for your help

Peter

From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 19:05:15 +0000









Peter,
 
You are correct, the 2’s are for the right channel and the 1’s are for the left. Q704 will be fine with C119 removed.
 
Here is the signal flow thru the dolby chips. If you look at the uA7300 chips you will see the block diagram of what is inside of the chip. To simplify my description
 I am going to label the op amps in the chips as follows:
Op amp between pins 9, 10 and 11 will be number 1.
Op amp whose input is pin 12 will be number 2.
Op amp whose output is pin 14 will be number 3, this op amp is feed from op amp number 2.
Op amp whose output is pin 16 will be number 4, this op amp is feed from op amp number 3.
The other 2 op amps in the chip we don’t have to worry about, they are used in the noise shaping feedback section. For the sake of this description I am going
 to leave them out.
 
Ok for playback mode here we go:
Note: The schematic shows the Play/Record switch, SW301, in the record position.
The signal from the play head enters op amp number 1 of IC102. It leaves op amp 1 and goes to op amp 2 of IC102. Op amp 2 feeds op amp 3 of IC102, the signal
 then leaves op amp 3 via pin 14, goes thru C140 goes to C115 and enters op amp number 1 of IC101. It then leaves op amp 1 and goes to op amp number 2 of IC101 via R125. It then leaves op amp 2 and enters op amp 3 of IC101. It then leaves op amp 3 of IC101
 via pin 14, thru C120 then to the outputs via Switch 301. Yes op amp number 4 is not used during playback.
 
For record:
The signal from the line input enters op amp 1 of IC101. It then leaves op amp 1 and enters op amp 2 of IC101 via R125, at the same time the signal leaving
 op amp 1 is sent to the line out via R126 and SW301. The signal leaves op amp 2 of IC101 and enters op amp 3 of IC101. It then leaves op amp 3 and enters op amp 4 of IC101. It then leaves op amp 4 of IC101 via C133 and goes to op amp 2 of IC102. From there
 it enters op amp 3 of IC102 then out of op amp 3 and into op amp 4 of IC102. The signal then leaves op amp 4 via pin 16 on its way to the eq, bias and record head.
 
Scott
 


From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Tanner

Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 12:29 PM

To: naktalk naktalk

Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z


 

Gosh, thanks a million, Scott. This has been about the most precise description of the Dolby circuit I've ever seen. I would not have the knowledge for figuring
 it out just by looking at the SM. When you said C 137 I proceeded to remove two of them off a donor board. They are Mylars but have not put them into the 481Z. The C119 is an orange cap 1800p. I don't have a new one unfortunately but I have one or two from
 this donor board but that means it's not sure if they are good. I'll try to get hold of a couple of new ones. In the meantime I'll do what you suggest and remove the one in the 481Z. Question. By removing it then turning the deck back on I am not going to
 blow that Q704, by any chance? Or any other transistor? And the 1's like 119, 137 etc relate to the left channel while the 2's to the right, correct? Thanks again



Peter




From:
scott.h.garner at lmco.com

To: naktalk at naks.com

Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:05:49 +0000

Peter,
A slight correction to my first email, I meant IC101 is used for B and C, IC102 is for C only.  The signal passes thru both no matter what NR is selected. When
 NR is off D101 and D104 are biased on thus turning off the noise shaping of both dolby chips. Also Q106, Q107 and Q108 are turned on thus setting the noise shaping of IC101 to the dolby b mode but since D101 is biased on the chip remains in the noise shaping
 off mode. When the dolby switch is set to On/B mode the bias on D101 is removed thus turning the noise shaping on for IC101 which is still set to B mode cause Q106, 107 and 108 are still on. Setting the dolby c on turns off Q106, 107 and Q108 setting the noise
 shaping of IC101 to c mode, also the bias on D104 is removed turning on the noise shaping of IC102. At the sametime Q105, 704 and 111 are turned on. This is where I think your problem is. If you look at Q704 when it is turned on it is putting a filter made
 up of C119, R715 and L701 in circuit but only when the unit is in record mode via SW301, the play/record switch. C119 is a PP cap, they go bad a lot. I would replace that cap. If you don’t have one on hand just remove it and see if your noise goes away. In
 a early email I stated to check C137, don’t bother that cap is used in both record and play, I missed that the first time I look over the schematic. I hope that helps you understand what is happening in the dolby circuit.
Scott
 
 


From:
naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Tanner

Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:45 AM

To: naktalk naktalk

Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z


 

Hello Scott,



Yes, the unit plays back in all modes on both channels perfectly. NR off, Dolby B on or Dolby C on. It erases and records perfectly on both channels with NR off or in Dolby B. In Dolby C however it erases but records a lot of crackles and a hum on the left
 channel while there is a slight hum in the right channel as well but no crackles. So the only problem I have is recording in Dolby C. That is the issue. Tapes that have been recorded earlier or tapes that have been recorded on other machines using Dolby C
 play back perfectly. Thanks



Peter




From: 
scott.h.garner at lmco.com

To: naktalk at naks.com

Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 20:15:31 +0000

Peter,
 
I can help you but I need more info, can you supply more info on your problem.
Does the unit playback ok in all modes, NR off, b on or c on.
The unit records fine with the NR off or b on correct? With the unit in record mode do both sides sound ok then when you play the recorded tape back the one
 side is not working.
If you follow the schematic IC102 is used for dolby b and IC101 for dolby c, for the left channel, but the signal goes thru both no matter what NR is selected.
 If you can record at all the bias is fine and IC102 is good.
 


From:
naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Tanner

Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 6:43 AM

To: naktalk naktalk

Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z


 

Thanks, Cheryl and Ron,



I've tried the spray, no change. The problem is that I can't identify the caps in the SM that go with the Dolby C. As I've mentioned the Dolby B works perfectly. The manual indicates a number of caps, some pp some electrolytic, some Mylar but all under the
 Dolby NR in general. There must be at least 50 all together for B and C, left and right. I got lost in the schematic while trying to follow the circuit from the switch. There are a no of big blue filter caps in the NR and as there are crackles in one channel
 while the other has just a plain hum some of them maybe responsible. I am not sure if I have the know-how to figure it out though. I don't often use the Dolby C for recording but this the only deck I have that has it so it's a pity. Fortunately the playback
 is OK and the B has not been affected so far. Thanks, anyway



Peter




From: 
kaupp240 at hotmail.com

To: naktalk at naks.com

Subject: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:19:41 -1000
Hi Peter,
 
A few years ago I lost one of the channels on my 581 -- but only when Dolby was turned on. It sounded as you describe but was
 also very weak in volume. When Dolby was OFF it worked fine. The 581 is pretty easy (no Dolby C and no double Dolby).
 
It turned out to be one of the caps in the Dolby circuit -- but it was NOT an orange cap. If memory serves me correctly it some
 type of film cap and was either green or brown. 
 
Get out the schematic and follow the circuits from the Dolby switch. See where the circuits go for Dolby B and Dolby OFF compared
 to where the circuit goes for Dolby C. The 581 was simple and the difference between Dolby ON and Dolby OFF was minimal. With Dolby ON there were only 1 or 2 caps that got switched into the circuit as I recall. That made it pretty easy to fix.
 
Aloha and good luck,
Cheryl
 



From:
naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]
On Behalf Of Ron

Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 2:27 PM

To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks

Subject: Re: [naktalk] 481Z

Peter, it is unlikely the problem is cased by the oscillator. I would suspect the Dolby


circuit (specifically, the Dolby C section). While it could be a bad cap, it could also


be a hairline crack in the PCB in that area. The latter can sometimes be diagnosed


by light tapping on the suspect PCB area and/or judicious application of a freezing


spray. 



Good luck,



-- Ron

 



On Monday, February 17, 2014 8:19 AM, Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com> wrote:






Hi everybody,



I have a 481 Z which functions very well. Lately, however, while recording with the Dolby C it has developed some issues. The left channel is full of crackling noise and a hum. It still erases though. The right channel seems OK. In Dolby B or without NR the
 deck erases and records normally on all types of tapes. The two 472 caps in the bias oscillator have been replaced with the same value, same tolerance, same voltage high quality caps. No change. Otherwise the deck has not had any electronic repairs done to
 it. Can anyone give me an idea what it could be caused by and if there is a fix for it? Thanks



Peter





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From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com (Garner, Scott H)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 11:34:50 +0000
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
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Peter,

Welcome to the world of repairing consumer electronics, mislabeled circuit boards and incorrect schematics are not that uncommon.
Your hum in the right channel might be another problem. Try the cap and let me know what happens.

Scott

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tanner
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 5:56 AM
To: naktalk naktalk
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

Hi Scott,

Yes, by removing C119 the clicks and crackles stopped. I've put in another 1800pF cap and the left channel is now good. No hum at all. The right channel has a hum though so I'll probably have to change C219 as well. Still in Dolby C only. As soon as I get new caps I'll change both including the C119 as the replacement cap is also an orange one and although it's working now it will probably fail again. By the way, in this deck on the board C119 and C219 are marked as C123 and C223 which is weird as those are electrolytic caps and are elsewhere. So  C123 and C223 show twice which was confusing. I actually had to blow up that part of the schematics to make sure. Again, thanks a lot for your help

Peter
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From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com<mailto:scott.h.garner at lmco.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com<mailto:naktalk at naks.com>
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 19:05:15 +0000
Peter,

You are correct, the 2's are for the right channel and the 1's are for the left. Q704 will be fine with C119 removed.

Here is the signal flow thru the dolby chips. If you look at the uA7300 chips you will see the block diagram of what is inside of the chip. To simplify my description I am going to label the op amps in the chips as follows:
Op amp between pins 9, 10 and 11 will be number 1.
Op amp whose input is pin 12 will be number 2.
Op amp whose output is pin 14 will be number 3, this op amp is feed from op amp number 2.
Op amp whose output is pin 16 will be number 4, this op amp is feed from op amp number 3.
The other 2 op amps in the chip we don't have to worry about, they are used in the noise shaping feedback section. For the sake of this description I am going to leave them out.

Ok for playback mode here we go:
Note: The schematic shows the Play/Record switch, SW301, in the record position.
The signal from the play head enters op amp number 1 of IC102. It leaves op amp 1 and goes to op amp 2 of IC102. Op amp 2 feeds op amp 3 of IC102, the signal then leaves op amp 3 via pin 14, goes thru C140 goes to C115 and enters op amp number 1 of IC101. It then leaves op amp 1 and goes to op amp number 2 of IC101 via R125. It then leaves op amp 2 and enters op amp 3 of IC101. It then leaves op amp 3 of IC101 via pin 14, thru C120 then to the outputs via Switch 301. Yes op amp number 4 is not used during playback.

For record:
The signal from the line input enters op amp 1 of IC101. It then leaves op amp 1 and enters op amp 2 of IC101 via R125, at the same time the signal leaving op amp 1 is sent to the line out via R126 and SW301. The signal leaves op amp 2 of IC101 and enters op amp 3 of IC101. It then leaves op amp 3 and enters op amp 4 of IC101. It then leaves op amp 4 of IC101 via C133 and goes to op amp 2 of IC102. From there it enters op amp 3 of IC102 then out of op amp 3 and into op amp 4 of IC102. The signal then leaves op amp 4 via pin 16 on its way to the eq, bias and record head.

Scott

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tanner
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 12:29 PM
To: naktalk naktalk
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

Gosh, thanks a million, Scott. This has been about the most precise description of the Dolby circuit I've ever seen. I would not have the knowledge for figuring it out just by looking at the SM. When you said C 137 I proceeded to remove two of them off a donor board. They are Mylars but have not put them into the 481Z. The C119 is an orange cap 1800p. I don't have a new one unfortunately but I have one or two from this donor board but that means it's not sure if they are good. I'll try to get hold of a couple of new ones. In the meantime I'll do what you suggest and remove the one in the 481Z. Question. By removing it then turning the deck back on I am not going to blow that Q704, by any chance? Or any other transistor? And the 1's like 119, 137 etc relate to the left channel while the 2's to the right, correct? Thanks again

Peter
________________________________
From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com<mailto:scott.h.garner at lmco.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com<mailto:naktalk at naks.com>
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:05:49 +0000
Peter,
A slight correction to my first email, I meant IC101 is used for B and C, IC102 is for C only.  The signal passes thru both no matter what NR is selected. When NR is off D101 and D104 are biased on thus turning off the noise shaping of both dolby chips. Also Q106, Q107 and Q108 are turned on thus setting the noise shaping of IC101 to the dolby b mode but since D101 is biased on the chip remains in the noise shaping off mode. When the dolby switch is set to On/B mode the bias on D101 is removed thus turning the noise shaping on for IC101 which is still set to B mode cause Q106, 107 and 108 are still on. Setting the dolby c on turns off Q106, 107 and Q108 setting the noise shaping of IC101 to c mode, also the bias on D104 is removed turning on the noise shaping of IC102. At the sametime Q105, 704 and 111 are turned on. This is where I think your problem is. If you look at Q704 when it is turned on it is putting a filter made up of C119, R715 and L701 in circuit but only when the unit is in record mode via SW301, the play/record switch. C119 is a PP cap, they go bad a lot. I would replace that cap. If you don't have one on hand just remove it and see if your noise goes away. In a early email I stated to check C137, don't bother that cap is used in both record and play, I missed that the first time I look over the schematic. I hope that helps you understand what is happening in the dolby circuit.
Scott


From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tanner
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:45 AM
To: naktalk naktalk
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

Hello Scott,

Yes, the unit plays back in all modes on both channels perfectly. NR off, Dolby B on or Dolby C on. It erases and records perfectly on both channels with NR off or in Dolby B. In Dolby C however it erases but records a lot of crackles and a hum on the left channel while there is a slight hum in the right channel as well but no crackles. So the only problem I have is recording in Dolby C. That is the issue. Tapes that have been recorded earlier or tapes that have been recorded on other machines using Dolby C play back perfectly. Thanks

Peter
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From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com<mailto:scott.h.garner at lmco.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com<mailto:naktalk at naks.com>
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 20:15:31 +0000
Peter,

I can help you but I need more info, can you supply more info on your problem.
Does the unit playback ok in all modes, NR off, b on or c on.
The unit records fine with the NR off or b on correct? With the unit in record mode do both sides sound ok then when you play the recorded tape back the one side is not working.
If you follow the schematic IC102 is used for dolby b and IC101 for dolby c, for the left channel, but the signal goes thru both no matter what NR is selected. If you can record at all the bias is fine and IC102 is good.

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Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 6:43 AM
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Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

Thanks, Cheryl and Ron,

I've tried the spray, no change. The problem is that I can't identify the caps in the SM that go with the Dolby C. As I've mentioned the Dolby B works perfectly. The manual indicates a number of caps, some pp some electrolytic, some Mylar but all under the Dolby NR in general. There must be at least 50 all together for B and C, left and right. I got lost in the schematic while trying to follow the circuit from the switch. There are a no of big blue filter caps in the NR and as there are crackles in one channel while the other has just a plain hum some of them maybe responsible. I am not sure if I have the know-how to figure it out though. I don't often use the Dolby C for recording but this the only deck I have that has it so it's a pity. Fortunately the playback is OK and the B has not been affected so far. Thanks, anyway

Peter
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From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com<mailto:kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com<mailto:naktalk at naks.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:19:41 -1000
Hi Peter,

A few years ago I lost one of the channels on my 581 -- but only when Dolby was turned on. It sounded as you describe but was also very weak in volume. When Dolby was OFF it worked fine. The 581 is pretty easy (no Dolby C and no double Dolby).

It turned out to be one of the caps in the Dolby circuit -- but it was NOT an orange cap. If memory serves me correctly it some type of film cap and was either green or brown.

Get out the schematic and follow the circuits from the Dolby switch. See where the circuits go for Dolby B and Dolby OFF compared to where the circuit goes for Dolby C. The 581 was simple and the difference between Dolby ON and Dolby OFF was minimal. With Dolby ON there were only 1 or 2 caps that got switched into the circuit as I recall. That made it pretty easy to fix.

Aloha and good luck,
Cheryl

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Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 2:27 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] 481Z
Peter, it is unlikely the problem is cased by the oscillator. I would suspect the Dolby
circuit (specifically, the Dolby C section). While it could be a bad cap, it could also
be a hairline crack in the PCB in that area. The latter can sometimes be diagnosed
by light tapping on the suspect PCB area and/or judicious application of a freezing
spray.

Good luck,

-- Ron

On Monday, February 17, 2014 8:19 AM, Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com<mailto:pbtanner at hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi everybody,

I have a 481 Z which functions very well. Lately, however, while recording with the Dolby C it has developed some issues. The left channel is full of crackling noise and a hum. It still erases though. The right channel seems OK. In Dolby B or without NR the deck erases and records normally on all types of tapes. The two 472 caps in the bias oscillator have been replaced with the same value, same tolerance, same voltage high quality caps. No change. Otherwise the deck has not had any electronic repairs done to it. Can anyone give me an idea what it could be caused by and if there is a fix for it? Thanks

Peter

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From cartrite at optusnet.com.au  Fri Feb 28 01:14:42 2014
From: cartrite at optusnet.com.au (Cartrite)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 11:14:42 +1100
Subject: [naktalk] 670ZX
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Hi Guys...i’ve been given a 670 thats been in storeage for many years but was supposed to be working when stored.Replaced belts but baulked at idler tire,seems difficult to get out(any tips?).Anyway Play & FF/Rewind works for a few seconds then stops,there is sound thru Headphones when play is pushed so that side of things seems to work for a second or 2.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.  TIA  & Regards  Bas.
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Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 12:57:28 +1100
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From luis at peromarta.org  Fri Feb 28 09:36:11 2014
From: luis at peromarta.org (Luis Peromarta Regert)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 09:36:11 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] 670ZX
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Well, idler tyre replacement on the classic transport the 670 uses, needs complete mech disassembly

While you are at it, a full cleaning / demag / align is probably a great idea. 

I can source some calibration tapes should you need them. 

Best. LP 


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> El 28/02/2014, a las 01:14, "Cartrite" <cartrite at optusnet.com.au> escribió:
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> Hi Guys...i’ve been given a 670 thats been in storeage for many years but was supposed to be working when stored.Replaced belts but baulked at idler tire,seems difficult to get out(any tips?).Anyway Play & FF/Rewind works for a few seconds then stops,there is sound thru Headphones when play is pushed so that side of things seems to work for a second or 2.
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From bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk  Fri Feb 28 17:35:29 2014
From: bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk (Ben Stratford)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 16:35:29 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes
Message-ID: <DUB123-W11A09099B27536EB39689A90820@phx.gbl>

Having rebuilt the transport with a new reel motor and refitted, the deck will not energise the reel motor in Play, FF or RW.  I have established that the 15VAC is being rectified to 12VDC.  Fairly obvious as the capstan motor & control motor works fine!  When I press play, the transport moves to the play position and the play lamp illuminates but as the right hand hub is stationary, the deck cuts out.  If I spin the hub manually after pressing play, it stays engaged until I stop spinning the hub - therefore the auto shut off is working ok.A fried resistor R590 probably happened due to shorting of the counter lamp wires - a new fuse resistor was fitted and the lamp new lamp works fine now as does the new cassette well lamp and all the transport lamps.  I suspect when this happened something else was damaged but I cant find it.  So far I have verified the following parts as either being in specification or have been replaced with new:Q407 / Q413 / Q424 / Q425 / Q426 / Q427 / Q447R452 / R453 / R467 / R483 / R484 / R485 / R495 / R499 / R510 / R511 / R512 / R517C412 / C413 / C417 / C419 / C457IC405Reel MotorMy logic was to work from the reel motor back towards the play button and check everything in between with the deck switched off and parts removed to check then refitting them, but It's difficult to identify the pathway.I feel the next thing to do is establish where the +ve supply to the reel motor should start from - probably CN-7 Pin 2 then follow it to the reel motor to try to find the defective part - this with the deck turned on and measure voltage when repeatedly pressing play.I know it's a big ask, but could anyone help to identify the parts sequence where to measure?The deck has very delicate board traces and removing parts and refitting them needs great care not to pull away the trace leading to bad connections - a couple have had to be repaired already.Many thanks, ben 		 	   		  
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From pbtanner at hotmail.com  Fri Feb 28 21:47:10 2014
From: pbtanner at hotmail.com (Peter Tanner)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 20:47:10 +0000
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
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Scott,

I've changed the second cap now. The C 219, and the hum is gone. Both channels work great. Thanks for your help and yours too, Cheryl.

Peter

From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 11:34:50 +0000









Peter,
 
Welcome to the world of repairing consumer electronics, mislabeled circuit boards and incorrect schematics are not that uncommon.
Your hum in the right channel might be another problem. Try the cap and let me know what happens.
 
Scott
 


From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Tanner

Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 5:56 AM

To: naktalk naktalk

Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z


 

Hi Scott,



Yes, by removing C119 the clicks and crackles stopped. I've put in another 1800pF cap and the left channel is now good. No hum at all. The right channel has a hum though so I'll probably have to change C219 as well. Still in Dolby C only. As soon as I get new
 caps I'll change both including the C119 as the replacement cap is also an orange one and although it's working now it will probably fail again. By the way, in this deck on the board C119 and C219 are marked as C123 and C223 which is weird as those are electrolytic
 caps and are elsewhere. So  C123 and C223 show twice which was confusing. I actually had to blow up that part of the schematics to make sure. Again, thanks a lot for your help



Peter




From:
scott.h.garner at lmco.com

To: naktalk at naks.com

Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 19:05:15 +0000

Peter,
 
You are correct, the 2’s are for the right channel and the 1’s are for the left. Q704 will be fine with C119 removed.
 
Here is the signal flow thru the dolby chips. If you look at the uA7300 chips you will see the block diagram of what is inside of the chip. To simplify my description
 I am going to label the op amps in the chips as follows:
Op amp between pins 9, 10 and 11 will be number 1.
Op amp whose input is pin 12 will be number 2.
Op amp whose output is pin 14 will be number 3, this op amp is feed from op amp number 2.
Op amp whose output is pin 16 will be number 4, this op amp is feed from op amp number 3.
The other 2 op amps in the chip we don’t have to worry about, they are used in the noise shaping feedback section. For the sake of this description I am going
 to leave them out.
 
Ok for playback mode here we go:
Note: The schematic shows the Play/Record switch, SW301, in the record position.
The signal from the play head enters op amp number 1 of IC102. It leaves op amp 1 and goes to op amp 2 of IC102. Op amp 2 feeds op amp 3 of IC102, the signal
 then leaves op amp 3 via pin 14, goes thru C140 goes to C115 and enters op amp number 1 of IC101. It then leaves op amp 1 and goes to op amp number 2 of IC101 via R125. It then leaves op amp 2 and enters op amp 3 of IC101. It then leaves op amp 3 of IC101
 via pin 14, thru C120 then to the outputs via Switch 301. Yes op amp number 4 is not used during playback.
 
For record:
The signal from the line input enters op amp 1 of IC101. It then leaves op amp 1 and enters op amp 2 of IC101 via R125, at the same time the signal leaving
 op amp 1 is sent to the line out via R126 and SW301. The signal leaves op amp 2 of IC101 and enters op amp 3 of IC101. It then leaves op amp 3 and enters op amp 4 of IC101. It then leaves op amp 4 of IC101 via C133 and goes to op amp 2 of IC102. From there
 it enters op amp 3 of IC102 then out of op amp 3 and into op amp 4 of IC102. The signal then leaves op amp 4 via pin 16 on its way to the eq, bias and record head.
 
Scott
 


From:
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On Behalf Of Peter Tanner

Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 12:29 PM

To: naktalk naktalk

Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z


 

Gosh, thanks a million, Scott. This has been about the most precise description of the Dolby circuit I've ever seen. I would not have the knowledge for figuring it out just by looking at
 the SM. When you said C 137 I proceeded to remove two of them off a donor board. They are Mylars but have not put them into the 481Z. The C119 is an orange cap 1800p. I don't have a new one unfortunately but I have one or two from this donor board but that
 means it's not sure if they are good. I'll try to get hold of a couple of new ones. In the meantime I'll do what you suggest and remove the one in the 481Z. Question. By removing it then turning the deck back on I am not going to blow that Q704, by any chance?
 Or any other transistor? And the 1's like 119, 137 etc relate to the left channel while the 2's to the right, correct? Thanks again



Peter




From: 
scott.h.garner at lmco.com

To: naktalk at naks.com

Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:05:49 +0000

Peter,
A slight correction to my first email, I meant IC101 is used for B and C, IC102 is for C only.  The signal passes thru both no matter what NR is selected. When
 NR is off D101 and D104 are biased on thus turning off the noise shaping of both dolby chips. Also Q106, Q107 and Q108 are turned on thus setting the noise shaping of IC101 to the dolby b mode but since D101 is biased on the chip remains in the noise shaping
 off mode. When the dolby switch is set to On/B mode the bias on D101 is removed thus turning the noise shaping on for IC101 which is still set to B mode cause Q106, 107 and 108 are still on. Setting the dolby c on turns off Q106, 107 and Q108 setting the noise
 shaping of IC101 to c mode, also the bias on D104 is removed turning on the noise shaping of IC102. At the sametime Q105, 704 and 111 are turned on. This is where I think your problem is. If you look at Q704 when it is turned on it is putting a filter made
 up of C119, R715 and L701 in circuit but only when the unit is in record mode via SW301, the play/record switch. C119 is a PP cap, they go bad a lot. I would replace that cap. If you don’t have one on hand just remove it and see if your noise goes away. In
 a early email I stated to check C137, don’t bother that cap is used in both record and play, I missed that the first time I look over the schematic. I hope that helps you understand what is happening in the dolby circuit.
Scott
 
 


From:
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On Behalf Of Peter Tanner

Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:45 AM

To: naktalk naktalk

Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z


 

Hello Scott,



Yes, the unit plays back in all modes on both channels perfectly. NR off, Dolby B on or Dolby C on. It erases and records perfectly on both channels with NR off or in Dolby B. In Dolby C however it erases but records a lot of crackles and a hum on the left
 channel while there is a slight hum in the right channel as well but no crackles. So the only problem I have is recording in Dolby C. That is the issue. Tapes that have been recorded earlier or tapes that have been recorded on other machines using Dolby C
 play back perfectly. Thanks



Peter




From: 
scott.h.garner at lmco.com

To: naktalk at naks.com

Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 20:15:31 +0000

Peter,
 
I can help you but I need more info, can you supply more info on your problem.
Does the unit playback ok in all modes, NR off, b on or c on.
The unit records fine with the NR off or b on correct? With the unit in record mode do both sides sound ok then when you play the recorded tape back the one
 side is not working.
If you follow the schematic IC102 is used for dolby b and IC101 for dolby c, for the left channel, but the signal goes thru both no matter what NR is selected.
 If you can record at all the bias is fine and IC102 is good.
 


From:
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On Behalf Of Peter Tanner

Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 6:43 AM

To: naktalk naktalk

Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z


 

Thanks, Cheryl and Ron,



I've tried the spray, no change. The problem is that I can't identify the caps in the SM that go with the Dolby C. As I've mentioned the Dolby B works perfectly. The manual indicates a number of caps, some pp some electrolytic, some Mylar but all under the
 Dolby NR in general. There must be at least 50 all together for B and C, left and right. I got lost in the schematic while trying to follow the circuit from the switch. There are a no of big blue filter caps in the NR and as there are crackles in one channel
 while the other has just a plain hum some of them maybe responsible. I am not sure if I have the know-how to figure it out though. I don't often use the Dolby C for recording but this the only deck I have that has it so it's a pity. Fortunately the playback
 is OK and the B has not been affected so far. Thanks, anyway



Peter




From: 
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To: naktalk at naks.com

Subject: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:19:41 -1000
Hi Peter,
 
A few years ago I lost one of the channels on my 581 -- but only when Dolby was turned on. It sounded as you describe but was
 also very weak in volume. When Dolby was OFF it worked fine. The 581 is pretty easy (no Dolby C and no double Dolby).
 
It turned out to be one of the caps in the Dolby circuit -- but it was NOT an orange cap. If memory serves me correctly it some
 type of film cap and was either green or brown. 
 
Get out the schematic and follow the circuits from the Dolby switch. See where the circuits go for Dolby B and Dolby OFF compared
 to where the circuit goes for Dolby C. The 581 was simple and the difference between Dolby ON and Dolby OFF was minimal. With Dolby ON there were only 1 or 2 caps that got switched into the circuit as I recall. That made it pretty easy to fix.
 
Aloha and good luck,
Cheryl
 



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On Behalf Of Ron

Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 2:27 PM

To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks

Subject: Re: [naktalk] 481Z

Peter, it is unlikely the problem is cased by the oscillator. I would suspect the Dolby


circuit (specifically, the Dolby C section). While it could be a bad cap, it could also


be a hairline crack in the PCB in that area. The latter can sometimes be diagnosed


by light tapping on the suspect PCB area and/or judicious application of a freezing


spray. 



Good luck,



-- Ron

 



On Monday, February 17, 2014 8:19 AM, Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com> wrote:






Hi everybody,



I have a 481 Z which functions very well. Lately, however, while recording with the Dolby C it has developed some issues. The left channel is full of crackling noise and a hum. It still erases though. The right channel seems OK. In Dolby B or without NR the
 deck erases and records normally on all types of tapes. The two 472 caps in the bias oscillator have been replaced with the same value, same tolerance, same voltage high quality caps. No change. Otherwise the deck has not had any electronic repairs done to
 it. Can anyone give me an idea what it could be caused by and if there is a fix for it? Thanks



Peter





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From gerhard.wartha at gmail.com  Fri Feb 28 12:58:41 2014
From: gerhard.wartha at gmail.com (Gerhard Wartha)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 12:58:41 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] 670ZX
In-Reply-To: <4C9D7518EFC3448A88597EBBC1CDBB20@InternetPC>
References: <4C9D7518EFC3448A88597EBBC1CDBB20@InternetPC>
Message-ID: <D544F76B-2D67-45C0-A49F-414A9D6DC35E@gmail.com>


0: Look how the Cam Drive and Control Cam   works on this transport.

1: No need to <align heads if you don´t touch them when you replace  
idler. use a  screwdriver Philips 2 on the transport screws .


LOOK AT THE SERVICE MANUAL page 7 and 8

2: disassemble  the middle alu Plate from the  transport. So that the  
Idler Tire is free to work on.

3; remove the Cassette Door switch on the top from transport,.  
remember  the way from the cables to that switch.

3; take a photo from every step and screw  from your work.

4; work on the tire only if you do have the fitting spare tire .

5: Work on the wheel by underlay the wheel with a small part  ( 2 to  
4 mm thick) to pre-vend  the  wheel arm from banding.

6: There is a spring  who holds the wheel. Make sure that spring does  
not get lost   in the moment you open/ remove  the washer .

7; take  a close look how this spring is  holing on the Plastic  
wheel. or see my  photos.

8: replace the tire and make sure the tire is  round on that white  
wheel.

9:    re-assemble the wheel. The spring   has a small arm who gets  
hold by the plastic wheel. That way the spring gets turned with the  
wheel.

10. re-assemble the transport plates means  re-assemble  Cam Drive  
and Control Cam, same time.

11: Re-assemble all bigger springs between the transport aluminum   
Plates and the Cassette Door break. Use photos to remember how many  
and where.

11. Control  the cam mechanism first by Turing  the belt / wheel or  
Motor by hand.
Than switch on the Deck and only if needed perform the  Mechanism  
Control Cam Adjustment, page 11 in the SERVICE MANUAL.


12; Do that work only if you are  firm with mechanics like this..  
Better sending the Transport or the Deck to a technician.

regards

Gerhard / Vienna

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Am 28.02.2014 um 01:14 schrieb Cartrite:

> Hi Guys...i?ve been given a 670 thats been in storeage for many  
> years but was supposed to be working when stored.Replaced belts but  
> baulked at idler tire,seems difficult to get out(any tips?).Anyway  
> Play & FF/Rewind works for a few seconds then stops,there is sound  
> thru Headphones when play is pushed so that side of things seems to  
> work for a second or 2.
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.  TIA  & Regards  Bas.
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From perry.nak at comcast.net  Fri Feb 28 20:17:59 2014
From: perry.nak at comcast.net (Perry Esposito)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 14:17:59 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] 670Zx
Message-ID: <8D099367-385F-41AE-85EA-BC2BE82D0976@comcast.net>

Basil, did you check the bulb/photo diode as I responded on Tapeheads!





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From luis at peromarta.org  Thu Jan  9 18:11:41 2014
From: luis at peromarta.org (Luis Peromarta Regert)
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 18:11:41 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Perfectly Restored Nakamichi 1000ZXL for sale
Message-ID: <C27328AB-EDE4-49C7-9B2D-FC30313B9102@peromarta.org>


Dear friends,

Most of my Nakamichi Cassette Deck has to go. With great sadness, but I really have to move on and I can't keep the all. Please stay tuned, as more will go along. This time, one of my Nakamichi 1000 ZXL is out for sale. 

This deck has been completely restored some time ago, as can be seen in the web site:

http://naks.es/1000ZXL-2.html

The deck is restored to perfection, the mech with all rubber parts NEW (including belts, rollers, guides, etc), all electronics with orange caps replaced, OP Amps upgraded, and completely calibrated, both mechanically and electronically. All front panel lights upgraded to LEDS, so they will last forever.

The external wooden case has been also restored, and revarnished, so is near mint. Cosmetically the deck shows some sign of wear on the handles (see the pictures), I did not paint them as I thought it wasn't too bad, but it's an easy job (only 2 screws per handle) should you want to do it yourself.

This is a 220V unit. If required it could be fitted with a new Toroidal Transformer so if would become Dual Voltage, and I could rewire it to work from 110V taps.

This deck is going to ebay probably tonight, so it will end Sunday night. If anyone is interested, I would be able to cancel the auction. Accepting offers from 2500€ . I know it' a lot on money, but this one unit WILL LAST LONG, because all major common problems have already been addressed.

Shipping worldwide, but will need a quote depending on were you live. 

Thank you for your interest and sorry for the cross posting.

With best regards, LP.


 


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From luis at peromarta.org  Thu Jan  9 18:21:12 2014
From: luis at peromarta.org (Luis Peromarta Regert)
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 18:21:12 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] =?windows-1252?q?Calibration_tapes_=85_Going_going_=85?=
	=?windows-1252?q?_gone?=
Message-ID: <ECAC07E0-E12B-41EC-9DCC-02516FB5D33F@peromarta.org>

Dear friends,

As you probably have read in an earlier posting, I will be retiring from the decks world soon.

I still have some pairs of calibration tapes, yes those famous cal tape set sold over ebay and naks.es , with over 150 sets sold world wide, many to NakTalk members and actual technicians. I do not wish to enter the debate on how good or bad are they, I just sold 150 units and no one came back. Many pros here use them. I will not replace the stock when they are gone, so this is one final offer.

A set of calibration calibration tapes as shown on ebay

http://www.ebay.es/itm/Set-of-Calibration-Alignment-Tapes-for-NAKAMICHI-deck-/280399440848?pt=US_Home_Audio_Cassette_Decks&hash=item41491bebd0&_uhb=1

Sold on eBay for $129 including shipping are now been sold directly from me at 65€ shipped to western Europe, and 70€ Elsewhere.

Should you need a set, just make a payment of 65€ or 70€ directly to my paypal account luis at peromarta.org and the tapes will be sent to you ASAP.

If the tapes are sold I will immediately post it here. Or contact me before buying should you want to make sure. There are 17 sets available. When they are gone, they are gone. For good.

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From luis at peromarta.org  Sat Jan 11 14:16:22 2014
From: luis at peromarta.org (Luis Peromarta Regert)
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 14:16:22 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Decks and test gear for sale
Message-ID: <642DA4BF-2710-44AC-B499-1F052030F9FE@peromarta.org>

Dear friends,

Some decks and some test gear has been put up for sale.

Please see my ebay site:

http://www.ebay.es/sch/lperoma/m.html?item=281243443243&rt=nc

With best regards, LP.


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From mark8559 at hotmail.com  Sun Jan 12 20:29:57 2014
From: mark8559 at hotmail.com (Mark Exstedt)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 12:29:57 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Cleaning Your Deck - Surgical Cotton Swabs
Message-ID: <BLU168-W100B905307681EC7E328D56DBBD0@phx.gbl>

 
Can anyone refer me to where is the best place to buy surgical swabs on the web.
Fry's Electriconics sell these (believe 100 per pack) for $3.99, but a lot of times when I go there they are sold out.
 
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Covidien-SH5414-Q-Tips-Sterile-6in-Bx-200-/281208814495?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item417959fb9f
 		 	   		  
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From willy at willyhermannservices.com  Sun Jan 12 22:45:03 2014
From: willy at willyhermannservices.com (Willy Hermann)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 13:45:03 -0800
Subject: [naktalk] Cleaning Your Deck - Surgical Cotton Swabs
In-Reply-To: <BLU168-W100B905307681EC7E328D56DBBD0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU168-W100B905307681EC7E328D56DBBD0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAM9V8MfAdCUP0aPqD9gUbHAhW2jF3aRjc5i2zcENSnONOXjK0w@mail.gmail.com>

Try Mouser.  Search on "swabs".  They have several different kinds.
Willy


On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Mark Exstedt <mark8559 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Can anyone refer me to where is the best place to buy surgical swabs on
> the web.
> Fry's Electriconics sell these (believe 100 per pack) for $3.99, but a lot
> of times when I go there they are sold out.
>
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Covidien-SH5414-Q-Tips-Sterile-6in-Bx-200-/281208814495?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item417959fb9f
>
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From mark8559 at hotmail.com  Mon Jan 13 01:51:13 2014
From: mark8559 at hotmail.com (Mark Exstedt)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 17:51:13 -0700
Subject: FW: [naktalk] Cleaning Your Deck - Surgical Cotton Swabs
In-Reply-To: <CAM9V8MfAdCUP0aPqD9gUbHAhW2jF3aRjc5i2zcENSnONOXjK0w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU168-W100B905307681EC7E328D56DBBD0@phx.gbl>,
	<CAM9V8MfAdCUP0aPqD9gUbHAhW2jF3aRjc5i2zcENSnONOXjK0w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU168-W60ACE2D5FF1344888AC5E8DBBC0@phx.gbl>

Thank you Willy.
 
http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine.aspx?Keyword=swabs
 
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 13:45:03 -0800
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Cleaning Your Deck - Surgical Cotton Swabs
From: willy at willyhermannservices.com
To: naktalk at naks.com

Try Mouser.  Search on "swabs".  They have several different kinds.Willy


On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Mark Exstedt <mark8559 at hotmail.com> wrote:




 
Can anyone refer me to where is the best place to buy surgical swabs on the web.
Fry's Electriconics sell these (believe 100 per pack) for $3.99, but a lot of times when I go there they are sold out.

 
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Covidien-SH5414-Q-Tips-Sterile-6in-Bx-200-/281208814495?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item417959fb9f

 		 	   		  

 		 	   		  
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From luis at peromarta.org  Sun Jan 19 18:10:42 2014
From: luis at peromarta.org (Luis Peromarta Regert)
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 18:10:42 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] My last 1000ZXL is out on ebay
Message-ID: <FC32124D-270E-4169-B8F8-F7B7CD5542AA@peromarta.org>

Dear friends,

My last 1000ZXL deck is now out for sale:

http://www.ebay.es/itm/281248771559?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649

This item will be shipped for free to any member of this list (and only to a member of this lists).

Also, a Nakamichi transport display, few pieces missing, but loads of usable parts for a classic transport including all motors!

http://www.ebay.es/itm/Nice-Nakamichi-Transport-Display-/281248768464?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_186&hash=item417bbba1d0&_uhb=1

With best regards, LP.







From tpfinn at btinternet.com  Sun Jan 26 18:20:20 2014
From: tpfinn at btinternet.com (TERRY FINN)
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 17:20:20 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [naktalk] Interesting NAK items just up on Ebay..
Message-ID: <1390756820.57145.YahooMailNeo@web87806.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>

Check out
 
Nak  DR2 and NAK 505 Mechs.
 
Nak 1000mk11  parts machine (ex AIR studio Monserate) +
1000Mk11 full manual with updates and original plastic cover!!
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111264475373?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111264472096?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111264472121?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111264429353?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
 
Terry
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From tpfinn at btinternet.com  Mon Jan 27 12:37:25 2014
From: tpfinn at btinternet.com (TERRY FINN)
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:37:25 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [naktalk] Re: Interesting NAK items just up on Ebay..
In-Reply-To: <1390756820.57145.YahooMailNeo@web87806.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>
References: <1390756820.57145.YahooMailNeo@web87806.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1390822645.33152.YahooMailNeo@web87806.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>





________________________________
 From: TERRY FINN <tpfinn at btinternet.com>
To: "naktalk at naks.com" <naktalk at naks.com> 
Sent: Sunday, 26 January 2014, 17:20
Subject: Interesting NAK items just up on Ebay..
 


Check out
 
Nak  DR2 and NAK 505 Mechs.
 
Nak 1000mk11  parts machine (ex AIR studio Monserate) +
1000Mk11 full manual with updates and original plastic cover!!
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111264475373?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111264472096?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111264472121?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111264429353?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
 
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From samsaevy at mail.ru  Tue Jan 28 16:33:52 2014
From: samsaevy at mail.ru (Yuri Samsaev)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 19:33:52 +0400
Subject: [naktalk] Unusual Nak Tri Tracer 700 and it's Dolby level
Message-ID: <52E7CDE0.2030308@mail.ru>

Hello everybody!
Recently bought 700 Tri Tracer. It has some differences from usual 
apparatus. First, level meters starts from -20 dB till +3dB, (usual from 
-40 to +5). Second, the flywheels has no gap adjustment and springs. 
Third, shutoff optosensor incorporated in the hub. I made some CLA in 
transport and start to make electrical adjustments. I made meters 
calibration according S.M. but I can't set PB amp level. I can't set it 
below +1dB (I obtained +2dB in the trimmer middle) . To adjust the 
level, I use Teac MTT-150 tape (200nWb/m). I found, that trimpots in PB 
amp is 10K instead 20K on all Tri Tracers S.M. schematics. I also 
checked head's height using  07A tape and M-300 gauge, and it's OK.  I 
doubt about the 0 dB Dolby level for this deck. Inside all  looks like 
from factory (no modifications signs). Can you tell me, what may be wrong?
Best regards.
Yuri.


From g.p.lyskin at paradise.net.nz  Tue Jan 28 21:46:40 2014
From: g.p.lyskin at paradise.net.nz (Gennady Lyskin)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:46:40 +1300
Subject: [naktalk] Unusual Nak Tri Tracer 700 and it's Dolby level
References: <52E7CDE0.2030308@mail.ru>
Message-ID: <C8643FF1996447DFBD8EC7DE530D1EE6@emachinef0bb72>

Hi Yuri,

Nak Level cassettes are not Dolby 200 nWb/m cassettes.

They have confusing marking on the label "200 nWb/m", which is not correct.

That level is about (not exactly) 2 dB lower than MMT-150 level.

Your "+2dB in the trimmer middle" reading is about correct.



Cheers,


Gennady Lyskin

G e n n L a b
http://www.gennlab.com
info at gennlab.com
Tel: +64 21 238 3056
New Zealand
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yuri Samsaev" <samsaevy at mail.ru>
To: <naktalk at naks.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 4:33 AM
Subject: [naktalk] Unusual Nak Tri Tracer 700 and it's Dolby level


> Hello everybody!
> Recently bought 700 Tri Tracer. It has some differences from usual 
> apparatus. First, level meters starts from -20 dB till +3dB, (usual 
> from -40 to +5). Second, the flywheels has no gap adjustment and springs. 
> Third, shutoff optosensor incorporated in the hub. I made some CLA in 
> transport and start to make electrical adjustments. I made meters 
> calibration according S.M. but I can't set PB amp level. I can't set it 
> below +1dB (I obtained +2dB in the trimmer middle) . To adjust the level, 
> I use Teac MTT-150 tape (200nWb/m). I found, that trimpots in PB amp is 
> 10K instead 20K on all Tri Tracers S.M. schematics. I also checked head's 
> height using  07A tape and M-300 gauge, and it's OK.  I doubt about the 0 
> dB Dolby level for this deck. Inside all  looks like from factory (no 
> modifications signs). Can you tell me, what may be wrong?
> Best regards.
> Yuri.
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From samsaevy at mail.ru  Thu Jan 30 08:01:07 2014
From: samsaevy at mail.ru (Yuri Samsaev)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:01:07 +0400
Subject: [naktalk] Unusual Nak Tri Tracer 700 and it's Dolby level
In-Reply-To: <C8643FF1996447DFBD8EC7DE530D1EE6@emachinef0bb72>
References: <52E7CDE0.2030308@mail.ru>
	<C8643FF1996447DFBD8EC7DE530D1EE6@emachinef0bb72>
Message-ID: <52E9F8B3.1090308@mail.ru>

Hi Gennady!
Today I tried MTT-150 on another Tri Tracer 700 (II), which seems 
adjusted, and MTT-150 shows +1 dB. But meters of 700II Tri Tracer has 
much less resolution across 0dB than meters of my deck. They are from 
-40 to +10 (my from -20 to +3) dB. I'm not shure in accuracy. I was not 
able to connect a voltmeter.
I am waiting for your tape

Best regards!
Yuri.

29.01.2014 0:46, Gennady Lyskin пишет:
> Hi Yuri,
>
> Nak Level cassettes are not Dolby 200 nWb/m cassettes.
>
> They have confusing marking on the label "200 nWb/m", which is not 
> correct.
>
> That level is about (not exactly) 2 dB lower than MMT-150 level.
>
> Your "+2dB in the trimmer middle" reading is about correct.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Gennady Lyskin
>
> G e n n L a b
> http://www.gennlab.com
> info at gennlab.com
> Tel: +64 21 238 3056
> New Zealand
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yuri Samsaev" <samsaevy at mail.ru>
> To: <naktalk at naks.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 4:33 AM
> Subject: [naktalk] Unusual Nak Tri Tracer 700 and it's Dolby level
>
>
>> Hello everybody!
>> Recently bought 700 Tri Tracer. It has some differences from usual 
>> apparatus. First, level meters starts from -20 dB till +3dB, (usual 
>> from -40 to +5). Second, the flywheels has no gap adjustment and 
>> springs. Third, shutoff optosensor incorporated in the hub. I made 
>> some CLA in transport and start to make electrical adjustments. I 
>> made meters calibration according S.M. but I can't set PB amp level. 
>> I can't set it below +1dB (I obtained +2dB in the trimmer middle) . 
>> To adjust the level, I use Teac MTT-150 tape (200nWb/m). I found, 
>> that trimpots in PB amp is 10K instead 20K on all Tri Tracers S.M. 
>> schematics. I also checked head's height using  07A tape and M-300 
>> gauge, and it's OK.  I doubt about the 0 dB Dolby level for this 
>> deck. Inside all  looks like from factory (no modifications signs). 
>> Can you tell me, what may be wrong?
>> Best regards.
>> Yuri.
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= 
>>
>>          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= 
>>
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>>
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From kannans at giasbg01.vsnl.net.in  Mon Jul  7 13:32:43 2014
From: kannans at giasbg01.vsnl.net.in (Kannan Srinivas)
Date: Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 20:55:33 IST (GMT+0530)
Subject: [naktalk] Tape travelling
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From: kannans at giasbg01.vsnl.net.in (Kannan Srinivas)
Date: Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 15:17:26 IST (GMT+0530)
Subject: [naktalk] OT - XRCD ?/ NOT - CR3
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From: kannans at giasbg01.vsnl.net.in (Kannan Srinivas)
Date: Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 09:17:23 IST (GMT+0530)
Subject: [naktalk] The near doom of the great Nakamichi
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From: kannans at giasbg01.vsnl.net.in (Kannan Srinivas)
Date: Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 09:19:32 IST (GMT+0530)
Subject: [naktalk] Cleaning cassette heads
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From: kannans at giasbg01.vsnl.net.in (Kannan Srinivas)
Date: Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 09:27:41 IST (GMT+0530)
Subject: [naktalk] truth and nothing but the truth
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From: kannans at giasbg01.vsnl.net.in (Kannan Srinivas)
Date: Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 00:25:02 IST (GMT+0530)
Subject: [naktalk] Nak Nak, who
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From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Mon Jul  7 13:32:43 2014
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most "reliable" as it has the least electronic complexities.

Taking it to the extreme, a 480 or BX1 could be even more "reliable".

Stan
  -----Original Message-----
  From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of
Anand.R.Sharma
  Sent: Mon, January 13, 2003 7:06 PM
  To: naktalk at naks.com
  Subject: [naktalk] Most "Reliable" Nak ?


  Friends - A novice question ! Which is the most "reliable" Nak Tape Deck
for long-lasting, relatively maintenance-free performance ? Should I get a
used Dragon, ZX9 or a CR7A ? Thanks in advance for your time. Anand




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From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Mon Jul  7 13:32:43 2014
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com ()
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 11:32:43 -0000
Subject: No subject
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15 years, it required a capstan motor, one capacitor
replacement and maybe a couple of tune-ups.

In contrast, the CR-7 (16 years old when I bought it) has
required a new IC (in the capstan motor electronics) and
pinch rollers. It has requires mechanical service (cleaning,
lubrication) three times since I got it about 4 years ago.
Capstan shafts tend to freeze every couple of years or so.
Mine has the gear modification, so, there are no problems
with reels drive.

However, going by sonic quality, the CR-7 is better than
the 582 (not by much, but definitely, better). To me,
that is the first consideration, with reliability taking
a back seat.

-- Ron



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> Friends - A novice question ! Which is the most "reliable" Nak
> Tape Deck for long-lasting, relatively maintenance-free
> performance ? Should I get a used Dragon, ZX9 or a CR7A ? Thanks
> in advance for your time.
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most "reliable" as it has the least electronic complexities. 
 
Taking it to the extreme, a 480 or BX1 could be even more "reliable".
 
Stan

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Sent: Mon, January 13, 2003 7:06 PM
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Subject: [naktalk] Most "Reliable" Nak ?


Friends - A novice question ! Which is the most "reliable" Nak Tape Deck for
long-lasting, relatively maintenance-free performance ? Should I get a used
Dragon, ZX9 or a CR7A ? Thanks in advance for your time. Anand 




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too go for the ZX9, just replace those darn orange caps and you'll be fine. 
Talking about taking it to the extreme, how's about a bx300 with the gear 
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  <DIV><SPAN class=769254701-14012003>From the 3 listed (Dragon, CR7A, ZX9), I 
  would think that ZX9 would be the most "reliable" as it has the least 
  electronic complexities. </SPAN></DIV>
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From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Mon Jul  7 13:32:43 2014
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com ()
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 11:32:43 -0000
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most "reliable" as it has the least electronic complexities.






From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Mon Jul  7 13:32:43 2014
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com ()
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 11:32:43 -0000
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"Founded in 1959 in New York as a sales organization of Sankyo Seiki
Manufacturing Company, Limited of Japan, Sankyo Seiki (America) Inc. (SSA)
enjoyed high reputation of quality products and large market shares in a
wide range of consumer products. SSA marketed through the 1980�s musical
products, 8-mm movie cameras and projectors, audio equipment, and digital
clocks, and in the early 1990�s quarter-inch tape backup drives. Today SSA
markets industrial robots, magnetic card readers, musical movements, DC
motors and appliance components through North America from its headquarters
in New Jersey and offices in Florida, California and Colorado."

For more ... http://www.sankyo.com

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From: naktalk-admin at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-admin at naks.com]On Behalf Of
Gentry, Ken
Sent: Thu, January 16, 2003 1:23 PM
To: 'naktalk at naks.com'
Subject: RE: [naktalk] CR series transport question


Newbee question --- Be gentle on me, please ;-)

I have seen "Sankyo Transport" mentioned. Is Sankyo a
subcontractor for the mechanism or is it a "model" name
for that transport made by Nakamichi.

If Sankyo is a subcontractor, what else do they make?

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: kannan_s at vsnl.com [mailto:kannan_s at vsnl.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 1:42 PM
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR series transport question


Ron
the basic Frame of sankyo transport is same including the capstan bearing /
pinch roller block etc whether it is a two head or three head with DD motor
or for that matter CR3 with belt driven dual capstans!, The frame has large
number of holes to fix additional fixtures like the motor for Azimuth adjust
in CR7. They have done a nice mod like splitting the head block in two for
Play head azimuth tilt mechanism in CR7. But some parts may be differnt in
different application but as for I know they are built on a same basic
frame.
coming to drives - you have plenty of parts going on to the frame to make up
Direct drive motor driven Dual capstan or belt driven mechanism. The second
flywheel for the take up capstan in Cr3 is same as CR4. While the other
capstan is different as it is part of Direct drive motor.
But if you are thinking of replacement for CR7 using CR1 two head mechanism-
fitting large number of additional materials to a simple mechanism may not
be worthwhile. Sometime that basic frame of ( CR1) may not have holes for
fitting some additional parts for CR7. As these parts had been made by CNC
punch press, the frame designer might have omitted unwanted holes for Dual
capstan drive parts probably to reduce cost. Better look for an Diret drive
mechanism like Bx300/ DRx /CR4 mechanisms as part for CR7

Kannan

ra.ah at rcn.com wrote

Do all CR series models use the same Sankyo transport?
For example, I understand that the CR-1 has 2 heads and
no motor for azimuth adjust, but does it use the same
basic transport as the CR-7 transport?

-- Ron

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From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Mon Jul  7 13:32:43 2014
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com ()
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The MA is worth the extra money to my mind, but with SA-XS at that price get as amny of the SA-XS that you can afford.  

The SA has a single layer "Super Avylin" coating.  This is a doped cobalt formula as far as I know.  I personally prefer other type IIs to this one (such as Maxell XLII, Sony UX and Fuji K2).  My expereince is that it is rather sensitive to excess level, and magnetic retentivity is a bit below par.  However, I recently heard a recording done on a CR-7 with this tape, and it was faultless.  Some of the best SA recordings I have heard were no-Dolby recordings peaking at about +0.5dB.  You should be able to buy this tape for less than the indicated E1.15-E1.30.

The SA-X and SA-XS features a reverse coating of this formula (Super Avylin) as well.  This results in better magnetic retentivity and an ability to soak up additional level, but with minimal print-through.  It is also brighter and more exciting although just as quiet as the SA.  This makes it an unusually dynamic tape, perhaps the best of its class.  Perfect Nakamichi food.  Price-wise, this is a "deal".

The MA is of course a Type IV, MA standing for "Metal Alloy".  It is a sort of reference point metal owing to the fact that you can usually get it.  It can take piles of level without saturation or compression of high frequencies.  Fellow Naktalkers have drawn attention to the lightweight mechanism (same mech as it's sibling SA and SA-X).  However, the mechanism will not give you any trouble.  Expect a powerful tonality thoughout the spectrum, but particularly in the treble which may require a touch of bias.  The price seems right here.

TDK CDing are budget entry level type IIs with low-cost mechanisms, slip sheets and shells.  They are the match of Sony CDit.  Rather stick with the mainstream lines.

In regard to other worthwhile cassettes, consider Maxell XLII and Maxell XLII-S, Sony UX and UX-S(the latter should be available in Germany from what I've seen), Maxell MX-S for special occasions, Sony Metal -SR for delicate recordings, the better Fujis like K2 and Metal - Z.

Your RX-505 will be marked for EX, SX and ZX cassettes.  These equate to TDK AD, TDK SA and TDK MA.  The AD has a fresh, upbeat sound that I quite like.  It's not very Dolby friendly, and does need the manual tuning you have on your RX-505 to sound its best.  It does however have amazing output (thus ability to handle level) for a type I.

Good luck,

Marc


>>> croquetgod at yahoo.com 02/11/03 12:21PM >>>
Hello there,

(probably this question has been discussed before but
it's a bit difficult to search the naktalk archives.
any link to a previous discussion of this tape issue
would be very much appreciated)

what kind of audio cassette would you recommend for a
RX505E?

my local shop has following TDK tapes available:

TDK SA-60   @ 1.15 euro
TDK SA-90   @ 1.30 euro
TDK SAXS-60 @ 1.09 euro
TDK MA-60   @ 2.20 euro

plus some cassettes named "CDeeing" or similar.

are TDK tapes good at all? (I used to take them some
10 years ago)
are the metal MA tapes worth the higher price compared
to the SA?
what is the difference between SA and SAXS ?
any other suggestions? (sony, fuji etc..)

thanks for your kind advice

jens





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From wheijke at xs4all.nl  Fri Jul 11 20:36:07 2014
From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 20:36:07 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
Message-ID: <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>

Hi Nalktalkers,

It's been some time!
The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave
up fixing it.
It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or continue
with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server, dedicated to
this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it should be
less sensitive to providers blocking it.

It is: http://lists.naks.com
Officially also the list's email address is now "naktalk at lists.naks.com"
but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.

I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
something is not working right send me a personal email.

There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the wiki,
provided by Manos, thank you!
You can find it in the usual place:
http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents

Enjoy Naktalk again!

Wouter


From kroger1032 at rogers.com  Fri Jul 11 20:53:41 2014
From: kroger1032 at rogers.com (KEVIN ROGERS)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 11:53:41 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
In-Reply-To: <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
References: <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <1405104821.55159.YahooMailNeo@web161401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Great news Wouter. Let me kick it off with a question. Does anyone know where I can find a set of the plastic surrounds for the bolts  by the handles that fasten a 1000ZXL to the cabinet?
 
Kevin Rogers 


On Friday, July 11, 2014 2:38:58 PM, Wouter Heijke <wheijke at xs4all.nl> wrote:
  


Hi Nalktalkers,

It's been some time!
The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave
up fixing it.
It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or continue
with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server, dedicated to
this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it should be
less sensitive to providers blocking it.

It is: http://lists.naks.com/
Officially also the list's email address is now "naktalk at lists.naks.com"
but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.

I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
something is not working right send me a personal email.

There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the wiki,
provided by Manos, thank you!
You can find it in the usual place:
http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents

Enjoy Naktalk again!

Wouter

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From n.van.wijnen at gmail.com  Fri Jul 11 20:58:16 2014
From: n.van.wijnen at gmail.com (Norman van Wijnen)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 20:58:16 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
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References: <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
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Great news,
Thanks a lot Wouter,

Best regards,

Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

> Op 11 jul. 2014 om 20:36 heeft "Wouter Heijke" <wheijke at xs4all.nl> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi Nalktalkers,
> 
> It's been some time!
> The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave
> up fixing it.
> It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or continue
> with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server, dedicated to
> this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it should be
> less sensitive to providers blocking it.
> 
> It is: http://lists.naks.com
> Officially also the list's email address is now "naktalk at lists.naks.com"
> but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.
> 
> I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
> something is not working right send me a personal email.
> 
> There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the wiki,
> provided by Manos, thank you!
> You can find it in the usual place:
> http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents
> 
> Enjoy Naktalk again!
> 
> Wouter
> 
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>                        Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist
> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
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From lenaw at flash.net  Fri Jul 11 21:04:20 2014
From: lenaw at flash.net (LENA WONG)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 12:04:20 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
In-Reply-To: <1405104821.55159.YahooMailNeo@web161401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
 <1405104821.55159.YahooMailNeo@web161401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1405105460.42825.YahooMailNeo@web181206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Hi Kevin:
              Haven't hear from you for quite sometimes so far. I lost the original black plastic fasteners on the screws that attach the 1000ZXL to the cabinet from the front as well and I found a set of four that are very close to the originals in my lab at that time. Let me see if my lab still have some of those left in the drawers.
 
              BTW how is pre-recorded audiophile cassette tapes going at your side so far? It dries up at my side (find no more in the local second-hand bookstores) the last couple of years. I do manage to find a complete set of ADVENT CR/70 release - over 70 cassettes a year ago and that is my biggest catch in recent years.
 
 
Best Regards,
Michael
 
  


On Friday, July 11, 2014 1:53 PM, KEVIN ROGERS <kroger1032 at rogers.com> wrote:
  


Great news Wouter. Let me kick it off with a question. Does anyone know where I can find a set of the plastic surrounds for the bolts  by the handles that fasten a 1000ZXL to the cabinet?
 
Kevin Rogers 


On Friday, July 11, 2014 2:38:58 PM, Wouter Heijke <wheijke at xs4all.nl> wrote:
  


Hi Nalktalkers,

It's been some time!
The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave
up fixing it.
It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or continue
with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server, dedicated to
this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it should be
less sensitive to providers blocking it.

It is: http://lists.naks.com/
Officially also the list's email address is now "naktalk at lists.naks.com"
but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.

I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
something is not working right send me a personal email.

There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the wiki,
provided by Manos,
 thank you!
You can find it in the usual place:
http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents

Enjoy Naktalk again!

Wouter

========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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From kvarnelis at gmail.com  Fri Jul 11 21:19:58 2014
From: kvarnelis at gmail.com (kazys varnelis)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:19:58 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] NAK 600 MK II (in pieces) for sale
In-Reply-To: <1405105460.42825.YahooMailNeo@web181206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
 <1405104821.55159.YahooMailNeo@web161401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
 <1405105460.42825.YahooMailNeo@web181206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A28D65E1351E47E192C7890FDA5692BC@gmail.com>

Hi all,   

I’ve got a Nakamichi 600 MK II that I tried to repair. It worked when I got it (audio was fine, although I didn’t get a chance to test it out TOO much since it ate tapes), but it needed new belts. I got the belts on but had some trouble getting it back together and, well, I’m giving up. The faceplate has a little wear. I’ll look again and even send photos, but I don’t recall any large scratches.   

Warnings… There was some bad stuff done to it, at least one connector was attached with a heat gun before I got it. Second, right before I gave up a little bit of smoke came out of it.  

I’m pretty confident nothing is critically broken, but I’ve failed, which makes me a bit disappointed. I have a replacement so I should pass this one to a happier home.

I was thinking $65 plus shipping as an opening salvo. I’d rather it go to someone committed to saving it, not using it for parts. Definitely don’t want to see it parted and sold on ebay.  

I’m in the NYC area.  

Cheers,

Kaz  


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From ddlbtl at gmail.com  Fri Jul 11 21:36:17 2014
From: ddlbtl at gmail.com (David lash)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 14:36:17 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Welcome back
Message-ID: <C8CC50BA-D259-4B9F-BEC7-8E1A66A2DFED@gmail.com>

Great to have this resource back!! For an update my DR1 is back together and sounds wonderful, thank you ESL for the capstain motor!

David

From grover.zinn at oberlin.edu  Fri Jul 11 21:46:49 2014
From: grover.zinn at oberlin.edu (Grover Zinn)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:46:49 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
In-Reply-To: <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
References: <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <755C3049-D704-4065-8584-5238EA36E24B@oberlin.edu>

Glad to see naktalk back, Wouter!  Thanks for keeping things going

Grover zinn
Oberlin, OH
grover.zinn at oberlin.edu

Sent from my iPod

On Jul 11, 2014, at 2:36 PM, "Wouter Heijke" <wheijke at xs4all.nl> wrote:

> Hi Nalktalkers,
> 
> It's been some time!
> The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave
> up fixing it.
> It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or continue
> with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server, dedicated to
> this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it should be
> less sensitive to providers blocking it.
> 
> It is: http://lists.naks.com
> Officially also the list's email address is now "naktalk at lists.naks.com"
> but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.
> 
> I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
> something is not working right send me a personal email.
> 
> There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the wiki,
> provided by Manos, thank you!
> You can find it in the usual place:
> http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents
> 
> Enjoy Naktalk again!
> 
> Wouter
> 
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>                        Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist
> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========

From willy at willyhermannservices.com  Fri Jul 11 22:07:24 2014
From: willy at willyhermannservices.com (Willy Hermann)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 13:07:24 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
In-Reply-To: <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
References: <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <CAM9V8McWc+PiVAR=YNDm-PLyyJ0=PKeWm+36qdJZyiPFUYjyfg@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you Wouter!  Amazing how much you miss something when it's suddenly
not there.
Welcome back.
Willy


On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Wouter Heijke <wheijke at xs4all.nl> wrote:

> Hi Nalktalkers,
>
> It's been some time!
> The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave
> up fixing it.
> It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or continue
> with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server, dedicated to
> this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it should be
> less sensitive to providers blocking it.
>
> It is: http://lists.naks.com
> Officially also the list's email address is now "naktalk at lists.naks.com"
> but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.
>
> I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
> something is not working right send me a personal email.
>
> There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the wiki,
> provided by Manos, thank you!
> You can find it in the usual place:
> http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents
>
> Enjoy Naktalk again!
>
> Wouter
>
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist
> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
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From Philip.Stone at imail.org  Fri Jul 11 22:26:19 2014
From: Philip.Stone at imail.org (Philip Stone)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 20:26:19 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
In-Reply-To: <CAM9V8McWc+PiVAR=YNDm-PLyyJ0=PKeWm+36qdJZyiPFUYjyfg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
 <CAM9V8McWc+PiVAR=YNDm-PLyyJ0=PKeWm+36qdJZyiPFUYjyfg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BA57017912A8DD47BC0D0F1EF9252D8C2287FE75@TX-EXMBN05.CO.IHC.COM>

I am also grateful to see it back I almost panicked! Thank you for your caring to keep it going.

Philip Stone
Field Engineer, Enterprise Networks


From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Willy Hermann
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 2:07 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!

Thank you Wouter!  Amazing how much you miss something when it's suddenly not there.
Welcome back.
Willy

On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Wouter Heijke <wheijke at xs4all.nl<mailto:wheijke at xs4all.nl>> wrote:
Hi Nalktalkers,

It's been some time!
The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave
up fixing it.
It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or continue
with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server, dedicated to
this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it should be
less sensitive to providers blocking it.

It is: http://lists.naks.com
Officially also the list's email address is now "naktalk at lists.naks.com<mailto:naktalk at lists.naks.com>"
but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.

I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
something is not working right send me a personal email.

There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the wiki,
provided by Manos, thank you!
You can find it in the usual place:
http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents

Enjoy Naktalk again!

Wouter

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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 11 22:30:58 2014
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 06:30:58 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
In-Reply-To: <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
References: <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <2657EE24-8FC8-4841-9E7F-BA725AD762EA@yahoo.com>

Hi Wouter, 

Deep appreciation for keeping this going. 11 years is an amazing record. Naktalk is so much a part of our Nakamichi experience and it just didn't seem the same when it wasn't around. 

Best Regards, 
Bala Ganesh

> On 12 Jul 2014, at 4:36 am, "Wouter Heijke" <wheijke at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> 
> Hi Nalktalkers,
> 
> It's been some time!
> The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave
> up fixing it.
> It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or continue
> with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server, dedicated to
> this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it should be
> less sensitive to providers blocking it.
> 
> It is: http://lists.naks.com
> Officially also the list's email address is now "naktalk at lists.naks.com"
> but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.
> 
> I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
> something is not working right send me a personal email.
> 
> There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the wiki,
> provided by Manos, thank you!
> You can find it in the usual place:
> http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents
> 
> Enjoy Naktalk again!
> 
> Wouter
> 
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>                        Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist
> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========

From perpetua at q.com  Fri Jul 11 22:31:29 2014
From: perpetua at q.com (R Grant)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 13:31:29 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
In-Reply-To: <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
References: <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <53C049A1.2090509@q.com>

Yay!

Naktalk is back ---
Although I don't usually post ...
I do a lot of lurking, and sure am glad To see the Phoenix  rise from 
the fire !!!
Now I need to figure out what to do with my sick Dragon .... and my 
recently dead RX202.

Just a thank you, Wouter for continuing such a great resource.
I'll tackle the Dragon, etc issues when time permits.
Great weekend to everyone ....

Richard
=-=-=-=-=-=
P.S. Hi Patty :)







On 7/11/2014 11:36 AM, Wouter Heijke wrote:
> Hi Nalktalkers,
>
> It's been some time!
> The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave
> up fixing it.
> It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or continue
> with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server, dedicated to
> this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it should be
> less sensitive to providers blocking it.
>
> It is: http://lists.naks.com
> Officially also the list's email address is now "naktalk at lists.naks.com"
> but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.
>
> I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
> something is not working right send me a personal email.
>
> There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the wiki,
> provided by Manos, thank you!
> You can find it in the usual place:
> http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents
>
> Enjoy Naktalk again!
>
> Wouter
>
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>            Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>                          Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist
> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========


From rkrause at multiplan.com.br  Fri Jul 11 22:46:31 2014
From: rkrause at multiplan.com.br (Rodrigo Krause)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 20:46:31 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] RES:  Naktalk is back!
In-Reply-To: <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
References: <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <2DA1DAF07B14404E8CBE5DA5683381FB08A4D470@STVTEX05>

Thank you for your care and commitment. I was already experiencing withdrawal syndrome for lack of Naktalks postings!!!
Welcome back!

R. Krause

-----Mensagem original-----
De: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] Em nome de Wouter Heijke
Enviada em: sexta-feira, 11 de julho de 2014 15:36
Para: naktalk at lists.naks.com
Assunto: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!

Hi Nalktalkers,

It's been some time!
The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave up fixing it.
It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or continue with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server, dedicated to this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it should be less sensitive to providers blocking it.

It is: http://lists.naks.com
Officially also the list's email address is now "naktalk at lists.naks.com"
but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.

I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if something is not working right send me a personal email.

There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the wiki, provided by Manos, thank you!
You can find it in the usual place:
http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents

Enjoy Naktalk again!

Wouter

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From avss01 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 11 22:48:19 2014
From: avss01 at gmail.com (avss01)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 06:48:19 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
In-Reply-To: <53C049A1.2090509@q.com>
References: <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
 <53C049A1.2090509@q.com>
Message-ID: <CAES7Nr1UpcKU9V76zKPX=F6xBYLW0GkDdu8J8G0idN0WH73BUg@mail.gmail.com>

Thankyou Wouter from down under.  Your efforts in keeping us all in touch
is much appreciated.  The community adds so much to the hobby....just to
know that I am not the only crazy.

David




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From bernard.boitrel at gmail.com  Fri Jul 11 23:02:34 2014
From: bernard.boitrel at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 23:02:34 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
In-Reply-To: <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
References: <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <53C050EA.4060902@gmail.com>

Dear Wouter,

That's from far the best news of the month.
Really happy the list is back!

So we are!
Cheers
Benrard

Wouter Heijke a écrit :
> Hi Nalktalkers,
>
> It's been some time!
> The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave
> up fixing it.
> It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or continue
> with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server, dedicated to
> this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it should be
> less sensitive to providers blocking it.
>
> It is: http://lists.naks.com
> Officially also the list's email address is now "naktalk at lists.naks.com"
> but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.
>
> I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
> something is not working right send me a personal email.
>
> There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the wiki,
> provided by Manos, thank you!
> You can find it in the usual place:
> http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents
>
> Enjoy Naktalk again!
>
> Wouter
>
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist
> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========

From lists at richardhess.com  Fri Jul 11 23:08:53 2014
From: lists at richardhess.com (Richard L. Hess)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:08:53 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
In-Reply-To: <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
References: <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <53C05265.7030905@richardhess.com>

Thank you, Wouter! This list has been a valuable resource for me.

I'm now up to 7 Dragons (though two are in hospital), a CR4A, and I 
think I will soon have six MR-1s in various conditions.

www.richardhess.com/tape/facility.htm though this is a bit out of date. 
Some updates are visible here when I was digitizing the seismic IRIG 
tapes from the Mt. St. Helens volcano eruption from 1980.
https://www.facebook.com/rlhess/media_set?set=a.10150685039187755.446547.698822754&type=3

Cheers,

Richard


On 2014-07-11 2:36 PM, Wouter Heijke wrote:
> Hi Nalktalkers,
>
> It's been some time!
> The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave
> up fixing it.

-- 
Richard L. Hess                   email: richard at richardhess.com
Aurora, Ontario, Canada           http://www.richardhess.com/
http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm
Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes.


From josephjean at verizon.net  Fri Jul 11 23:13:22 2014
From: josephjean at verizon.net (Roland)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:13:22 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Happy!
Message-ID: <nw7mn8q89w56d18kbem2i25j.1405113202327@email.android.com>

I'm thrilled it's back!




Sent from Samsung tablet.
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From joyell.solie at sasktel.net  Sat Jul 12 00:12:10 2014
From: joyell.solie at sasktel.net (=?utf-8?b?Sm95LUVsbCAmIFJhaW5lcg==?=)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 16:12:10 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
In-Reply-To: <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
References: <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
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whooo hooo ! :) awesome :)

Thanks Wouter

Cheers,
Rainer

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 20:36:07 +0200, Wouter Heijke <wheijke at xs4all.nl> wrote:
Hi Nalktalkers,
>
> It's been some time!
> The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave
> up fixing it. 
> It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or continue
> with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server, dedicated to
> this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it should be
> less sensitive to providers blocking it. 
>
> It is: http://lists.naks.com
> Officially also the list's email address is now "naktalk at lists.naks.com"
> but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being. 
>
> I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
> something is not working right send me a personal email. 
>
> There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the wiki,
> provided by Manos, thank you!
> You can find it in the usual place:
> http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents
>
> Enjoy Naktalk again!
>
> Wouter
>
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From gerhard.wartha at gmail.com  Sat Jul 12 00:16:40 2014
From: gerhard.wartha at gmail.com (Gerhard Wartha)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 00:16:40 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
In-Reply-To: <1405104821.55159.YahooMailNeo@web161401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
 <1405104821.55159.YahooMailNeo@web161401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <30E802C4-F541-4C80-8144-D78CBE6EB182@gmail.com>

I put you on my List.

Thinking   on selling a 1000ZXL in parts !

50 or 100$ for every part.

The Problem is this Deck is playing very well , but has no working   
Record .

So It must sell for 1300.- in parts.

I did buy it in Japan,  It  did come with  the airplane to europe.


But you can use 4mm  black screws with an  black  rubber washer. You  
find that on Ebay Germany. I was finding the Screws for a 1000II  
Cabinet that way.
regards

Gerhard


Am 11.07.2014 um 20:53 schrieb KEVIN ROGERS:

> Great news Wouter. Let me kick it off with a question. Does anyone  
> know where I can find a set of the plastic surrounds for the bolts   
> by the handles that fasten a 1000ZXL to the cabinet?
>
> Kevin Rogers
>
>
> On Friday, July 11, 2014 2:38:58 PM, Wouter Heijke  
> <wheijke at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Nalktalkers,
>
> It's been some time!
> The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I  
> gave
> up fixing it.
> It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or  
> continue
> with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server,  
> dedicated to
> this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it  
> should be
> less sensitive to providers blocking it.
>
> It is: http://lists.naks.com/
> Officially also the list's email address is now  
> "naktalk at lists.naks.com"
> but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.
>
> I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
> something is not working right send me a personal email.
>
> There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the  
> wiki,
> provided by Manos, thank you!
> You can find it in the usual place:
> http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents
>
> Enjoy Naktalk again!
>
> Wouter
>
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> =========
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From dball1 at woh.rr.com  Sat Jul 12 00:31:37 2014
From: dball1 at woh.rr.com (Dennis Ball)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 18:31:37 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Happy!
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Same here!  Hats off to Wouter for all his efforts in keeping this going.

Dennis


On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Roland <josephjean at verizon.net> wrote:

> I'm thrilled it's back!
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Samsung tablet.
>
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From cartrite at optusnet.com.au  Sat Jul 12 02:43:25 2014
From: cartrite at optusnet.com.au (Cartrite)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 10:43:25 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
In-Reply-To: <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
References: <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <87144E68AFE041C494D29F1660716FD7@InternetPC>

...Hi All...big thanks from me as well,still having problems with the 680 
but in no hurry and will let things settle down before asking for advice.AtB 
Baz.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Wouter Heijke
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 4:36 AM
To: naktalk at lists.naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!

Hi Nalktalkers,

It's been some time!
The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave
up fixing it.
It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or continue
with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server, dedicated to
this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it should be
less sensitive to providers blocking it.

It is: http://lists.naks.com
Officially also the list's email address is now "naktalk at lists.naks.com"
but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.

I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
something is not working right send me a personal email.

There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the wiki,
provided by Manos, thank you!
You can find it in the usual place:
http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents

Enjoy Naktalk again!

Wouter

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From umeshchandran.r at gmail.com  Sat Jul 12 08:11:59 2014
From: umeshchandran.r at gmail.com (Umesh R)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 11:41:59 +0530
Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
In-Reply-To: <87144E68AFE041C494D29F1660716FD7@InternetPC>
References: <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
 <87144E68AFE041C494D29F1660716FD7@InternetPC>
Message-ID: <CALkUgJOfx8T3N7PrSUgKndwqzePm3ABgh-xMAAY5bnsvaYgpuw@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you very much Mr. Wouter for bringing this back. Feeling lucky


On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 6:13 AM, Cartrite <cartrite at optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> ...Hi All...big thanks from me as well,still having problems with the 680
> but in no hurry and will let things settle down before asking for
> advice.AtB Baz.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Wouter Heijke
> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 4:36 AM
> To: naktalk at lists.naks.com
> Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
>
>
> Hi Nalktalkers,
>
> It's been some time!
> The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave
> up fixing it.
> It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or continue
> with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server, dedicated to
> this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it should be
> less sensitive to providers blocking it.
>
> It is: http://lists.naks.com
> Officially also the list's email address is now "naktalk at lists.naks.com"
> but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.
>
> I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
> something is not working right send me a personal email.
>
> There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the wiki,
> provided by Manos, thank you!
> You can find it in the usual place:
> http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents
>
> Enjoy Naktalk again!
>
> Wouter
>
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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>
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From n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl  Sat Jul 12 10:38:39 2014
From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl (Ziggo)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 10:38:39 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Dragon heads
Message-ID: <A47B4756-9A06-4DBC-ABCB-506F714D1696@ziggo.nl>

> Hi all,
> 
> Good to hear from you all. Great to have Naktalk back. Thanks  Wouter.
> Recently i did a overhaul job on a Dragon.
> I wonder if you guys know a place where we can buy used or new playback
> heads for this machine? (I am afraid for the answer)
> Best regards
> 
> Norman

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From hockeyeast at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 12 13:02:54 2014
From: hockeyeast at yahoo.com (Rich)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 07:02:54 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk Digest, Vol 136, Issue 1
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1405159201.12672.naktalk@lists.naks.com>
References: <mailman.1.1405159201.12672.naktalk@lists.naks.com>
Message-ID: <46A943BE-EA5D-4D3D-8B7D-72F07BC88051@yahoo.com>

Missed it... Glad to have it back!!!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 12, 2014, at 6:00 AM, naktalk-request at lists.naks.com wrote:
> 
> Send Naktalk mailing list submissions to
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> 
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> 
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
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> Naktalk digest mailing list
> 
> 
> Today's Topics:
> 
>   1. Naktalk is back! (Wouter Heijke)
>   2. Re: Naktalk is back! (KEVIN ROGERS)
>   3. Re: Naktalk is back! (Norman van Wijnen)
>   4. Re: Naktalk is back! (LENA WONG)
>   5. NAK 600 MK II (in pieces) for sale (kazys varnelis)
>   6. Welcome back (David lash)
>   7. Re: Naktalk is back! (Grover Zinn)
>   8. Re: Naktalk is back! (Willy Hermann)
>   9. Re: Naktalk is back! (Philip Stone)
>  10. Re: Naktalk is back! (Bala Ganesh)
>  11. Re: Naktalk is back! (R Grant)
>  12. RES:  Naktalk is back! (Rodrigo Krause)
>  13. Re: Naktalk is back! (avss01)
>  14. Re: Naktalk is back! (bb)
>  15. Re: Naktalk is back! (Richard L. Hess)
>  16. Happy! (Roland)
>  17. Re: Naktalk is back! (=?utf-8?b?Sm95LUVsbCAmIFJhaW5lcg==?=)
>  18. Re: Naktalk is back! (Gerhard Wartha)
>  19. Re: Happy! (Dennis Ball)
>  20. Re: Naktalk is back! (Cartrite)
>  21. Re: Naktalk is back! (Umesh R)
>  22. Dragon heads (Ziggo)
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 20:36:07 +0200
> From: "Wouter Heijke" <wheijke at xs4all.nl>
> To: naktalk at lists.naks.com
> Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
> Message-ID:
>    <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel at webmail.xs4all.nl>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> Hi Nalktalkers,
> 
> It's been some time!
> The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave
> up fixing it.
> It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or continue
> with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server, dedicated to
> this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it should be
> less sensitive to providers blocking it.
> 
> It is: http://lists.naks.com
> Officially also the list's email address is now "naktalk at lists.naks.com"
> but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.
> 
> I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
> something is not working right send me a personal email.
> 
> There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the wiki,
> provided by Manos, thank you!
> You can find it in the usual place:
> http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents
> 
> Enjoy Naktalk again!
> 
> Wouter
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 11:53:41 -0700
> From: KEVIN ROGERS <kroger1032 at rogers.com>
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at lists.naks.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
> Message-ID:
>    <1405104821.55159.YahooMailNeo at web161401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Great news Wouter. Let me kick it off with a question. Does anyone know where I can find a set of the plastic surrounds for the bolts  by the handles that fasten a 1000ZXL to the cabinet?
>  
> Kevin Rogers 
> 
> 
> On Friday, July 11, 2014 2:38:58 PM, Wouter Heijke <wheijke at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Nalktalkers,
> 
> It's been some time!
> The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave
> up fixing it.
> It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or continue
> with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server, dedicated to
> this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it should be
> less sensitive to providers blocking it.
> 
> It is: http://lists.naks.com/
> Officially also the list's email address is now "naktalk at lists.naks.com"
> but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.
> 
> I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
> something is not working right send me a personal email.
> 
> There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the wiki,
> provided by Manos, thank you!
> You can find it in the usual place:
> http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents
> 
> Enjoy Naktalk again!
> 
> Wouter
> 
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> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 20:58:16 +0200
> From: Norman van Wijnen <n.van.wijnen at gmail.com>
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at lists.naks.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
> Message-ID: <8BA7E64A-0587-42C8-92C1-F8C30A32CD79 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> 
> Great news,
> Thanks a lot Wouter,
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Norman
> 
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
> 
>> Op 11 jul. 2014 om 20:36 heeft "Wouter Heijke" <wheijke at xs4all.nl> het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> Hi Nalktalkers,
>> 
>> It's been some time!
>> The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave
>> up fixing it.
>> It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or continue
>> with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server, dedicated to
>> this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it should be
>> less sensitive to providers blocking it.
>> 
>> It is: http://lists.naks.com
>> Officially also the list's email address is now "naktalk at lists.naks.com"
>> but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.
>> 
>> I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
>> something is not working right send me a personal email.
>> 
>> There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the wiki,
>> provided by Manos, thank you!
>> You can find it in the usual place:
>> http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents
>> 
>> Enjoy Naktalk again!
>> 
>> Wouter
>> 
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>                       Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist
>> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
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> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 12:04:20 -0700
> From: LENA WONG <lenaw at flash.net>
> To: KEVIN ROGERS <kroger1032 at rogers.com>, Talk about Nakamichi
>    Cassette Decks <naktalk at lists.naks.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
> Message-ID:
>    <1405105460.42825.YahooMailNeo at web181206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Hi Kevin:
>               Haven't hear from you for quite sometimes so far. I lost the original black plastic fasteners on the screws that attach the 1000ZXL to the cabinet from the front as well and I found a set of four that are very close to the originals in my lab at that time. Let me see if my lab still have some of those left in the drawers.
>  
>               BTW how is pre-recorded audiophile cassette tapes going at your side so far? It dries up at my side (find no more in the local second-hand bookstores) the last couple of years. I do manage to find a complete set of ADVENT CR/70 release - over 70 cassettes a year ago and that is my biggest catch in recent years.
>  
>  
> Best Regards,
> Michael
>  
>   
> 
> 
> On Friday, July 11, 2014 1:53 PM, KEVIN ROGERS <kroger1032 at rogers.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Great news Wouter. Let me kick it off with a question. Does anyone know where I can find a set of the plastic surrounds for the bolts  by the handles that fasten a 1000ZXL to the cabinet?
>  
> Kevin Rogers 
> 
> 
> On Friday, July 11, 2014 2:38:58 PM, Wouter Heijke <wheijke at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Nalktalkers,
> 
> It's been some time!
> The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave
> up fixing it.
> It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or continue
> with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server, dedicated to
> this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it should be
> less sensitive to providers blocking it.
> 
> It is: http://lists.naks.com/
> Officially also the list's email address is now "naktalk at lists.naks.com"
> but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.
> 
> I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
> something is not working right send me a personal email.
> 
> There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the wiki,
> provided by Manos,
> thank you!
> You can find it in the usual place:
> http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents
> 
> Enjoy Naktalk again!
> 
> Wouter
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:19:58 -0400
> From: kazys varnelis <kvarnelis at gmail.com>
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at lists.naks.com>
> Subject: [naktalk] NAK 600 MK II (in pieces) for sale
> Message-ID: <A28D65E1351E47E192C7890FDA5692BC at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Hi all,   
> 
> I’ve got a Nakamichi 600 MK II that I tried to repair. It worked when I got it (audio was fine, although I didn’t get a chance to test it out TOO much since it ate tapes), but it needed new belts. I got the belts on but had some trouble getting it back together and, well, I’m giving up. The faceplate has a little wear. I’ll look again and even send photos, but I don’t recall any large scratches.   
> 
> Warnings… There was some bad stuff done to it, at least one connector was attached with a heat gun before I got it. Second, right before I gave up a little bit of smoke came out of it.  
> 
> I’m pretty confident nothing is critically broken, but I’ve failed, which makes me a bit disappointed. I have a replacement so I should pass this one to a happier home.
> 
> I was thinking $65 plus shipping as an opening salvo. I’d rather it go to someone committed to saving it, not using it for parts. Definitely don’t want to see it parted and sold on ebay.  
> 
> I’m in the NYC area.  
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Kaz  
> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 14:36:17 -0500
> From: David lash <ddlbtl at gmail.com>
> To: "naktalk at lists.naks.com" <naktalk at lists.naks.com>
> Subject: [naktalk] Welcome back
> Message-ID: <C8CC50BA-D259-4B9F-BEC7-8E1A66A2DFED at gmail.com>
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> Great to have this resource back!! For an update my DR1 is back together and sounds wonderful, thank you ESL for the capstain motor!
> 
> David
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:46:49 -0400
> From: Grover Zinn <grover.zinn at oberlin.edu>
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at lists.naks.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
> Message-ID: <755C3049-D704-4065-8584-5238EA36E24B at oberlin.edu>
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> 
> Glad to see naktalk back, Wouter!  Thanks for keeping things going
> 
> Grover zinn
> Oberlin, OH
> grover.zinn at oberlin.edu
> 
> Sent from my iPod
> 
>> On Jul 11, 2014, at 2:36 PM, "Wouter Heijke" <wheijke at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Nalktalkers,
>> 
>> It's been some time!
>> The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave
>> up fixing it.
>> It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or continue
>> with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server, dedicated to
>> this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it should be
>> less sensitive to providers blocking it.
>> 
>> It is: http://lists.naks.com
>> Officially also the list's email address is now "naktalk at lists.naks.com"
>> but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.
>> 
>> I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
>> something is not working right send me a personal email.
>> 
>> There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the wiki,
>> provided by Manos, thank you!
>> You can find it in the usual place:
>> http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents
>> 
>> Enjoy Naktalk again!
>> 
>> Wouter
>> 
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>         Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>                       Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist
>> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 13:07:24 -0700
> From: Willy Hermann <willy at willyhermannservices.com>
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at lists.naks.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
> Message-ID:
>    <CAM9V8McWc+PiVAR=YNDm-PLyyJ0=PKeWm+36qdJZyiPFUYjyfg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Thank you Wouter!  Amazing how much you miss something when it's suddenly
> not there.
> Welcome back.
> Willy
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Wouter Heijke <wheijke at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Nalktalkers,
>> 
>> It's been some time!
>> The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave
>> up fixing it.
>> It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or continue
>> with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server, dedicated to
>> this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it should be
>> less sensitive to providers blocking it.
>> 
>> It is: http://lists.naks.com
>> Officially also the list's email address is now "naktalk at lists.naks.com"
>> but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.
>> 
>> I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
>> something is not working right send me a personal email.
>> 
>> There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the wiki,
>> provided by Manos, thank you!
>> You can find it in the usual place:
>> http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents
>> 
>> Enjoy Naktalk again!
>> 
>> Wouter
>> 
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>                        Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist
>> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
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> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 20:26:19 +0000
> From: Philip Stone <Philip.Stone at imail.org>
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at lists.naks.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
> Message-ID:
>    <BA57017912A8DD47BC0D0F1EF9252D8C2287FE75 at TX-EXMBN05.CO.IHC.COM>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> I am also grateful to see it back I almost panicked! Thank you for your caring to keep it going.
> 
> Philip Stone
> Field Engineer, Enterprise Networks
> 
> 
> From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Willy Hermann
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 2:07 PM
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
> 
> Thank you Wouter!  Amazing how much you miss something when it's suddenly not there.
> Welcome back.
> Willy
> 
> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Wouter Heijke <wheijke at xs4all.nl<mailto:wheijke at xs4all.nl>> wrote:
> Hi Nalktalkers,
> 
> It's been some time!
> The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave
> up fixing it.
> It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or continue
> with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server, dedicated to
> this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it should be
> less sensitive to providers blocking it.
> 
> It is: http://lists.naks.com
> Officially also the list's email address is now "naktalk at lists.naks.com<mailto:naktalk at lists.naks.com>"
> but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.
> 
> I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
> something is not working right send me a personal email.
> 
> There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the wiki,
> provided by Manos, thank you!
> You can find it in the usual place:
> http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents
> 
> Enjoy Naktalk again!
> 
> Wouter
> 
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>                        Naktalk at lists.naks.com<mailto:Naktalk at lists.naks.com> mailinglist
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 06:30:58 +1000
> From: Bala Ganesh <bg3009 at yahoo.com>
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at lists.naks.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
> Message-ID: <2657EE24-8FC8-4841-9E7F-BA725AD762EA at yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> 
> Hi Wouter, 
> 
> Deep appreciation for keeping this going. 11 years is an amazing record. Naktalk is so much a part of our Nakamichi experience and it just didn't seem the same when it wasn't around. 
> 
> Best Regards, 
> Bala Ganesh
> 
>> On 12 Jul 2014, at 4:36 am, "Wouter Heijke" <wheijke at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Nalktalkers,
>> 
>> It's been some time!
>> The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave
>> up fixing it.
>> It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or continue
>> with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server, dedicated to
>> this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it should be
>> less sensitive to providers blocking it.
>> 
>> It is: http://lists.naks.com
>> Officially also the list's email address is now "naktalk at lists.naks.com"
>> but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.
>> 
>> I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
>> something is not working right send me a personal email.
>> 
>> There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the wiki,
>> provided by Manos, thank you!
>> You can find it in the usual place:
>> http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents
>> 
>> Enjoy Naktalk again!
>> 
>> Wouter
>> 
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>         Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>                       Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist
>> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 13:31:29 -0700
> From: R Grant <perpetua at q.com>
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at lists.naks.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
> Message-ID: <53C049A1.2090509 at q.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> 
> Yay!
> 
> Naktalk is back ---
> Although I don't usually post ...
> I do a lot of lurking, and sure am glad To see the Phoenix  rise from 
> the fire !!!
> Now I need to figure out what to do with my sick Dragon .... and my 
> recently dead RX202.
> 
> Just a thank you, Wouter for continuing such a great resource.
> I'll tackle the Dragon, etc issues when time permits.
> Great weekend to everyone ....
> 
> Richard
> =-=-=-=-=-=
> P.S. Hi Patty :)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 7/11/2014 11:36 AM, Wouter Heijke wrote:
>> Hi Nalktalkers,
>> 
>> It's been some time!
>> The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave
>> up fixing it.
>> It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or continue
>> with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server, dedicated to
>> this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it should be
>> less sensitive to providers blocking it.
>> 
>> It is: http://lists.naks.com
>> Officially also the list's email address is now "naktalk at lists.naks.com"
>> but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.
>> 
>> I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
>> something is not working right send me a personal email.
>> 
>> There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the wiki,
>> provided by Manos, thank you!
>> You can find it in the usual place:
>> http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents
>> 
>> Enjoy Naktalk again!
>> 
>> Wouter
>> 
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist
>> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 20:46:31 +0000
> From: Rodrigo Krause <rkrause at multiplan.com.br>
> To: "naktalk at lists.naks.com" <naktalk at lists.naks.com>
> Subject: [naktalk] RES:  Naktalk is back!
> Message-ID: <2DA1DAF07B14404E8CBE5DA5683381FB08A4D470 at STVTEX05>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Thank you for your care and commitment. I was already experiencing withdrawal syndrome for lack of Naktalks postings!!!
> Welcome back!
> 
> R. Krause
> 
> -----Mensagem original-----
> De: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] Em nome de Wouter Heijke
> Enviada em: sexta-feira, 11 de julho de 2014 15:36
> Para: naktalk at lists.naks.com
> Assunto: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
> 
> Hi Nalktalkers,
> 
> It's been some time!
> The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave up fixing it.
> It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or continue with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server, dedicated to this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it should be less sensitive to providers blocking it.
> 
> It is: http://lists.naks.com
> Officially also the list's email address is now "naktalk at lists.naks.com"
> but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.
> 
> I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if something is not working right send me a personal email.
> 
> There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the wiki, provided by Manos, thank you!
> You can find it in the usual place:
> http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents
> 
> Enjoy Naktalk again!
> 
> Wouter
> 
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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> Message: 13
> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 06:48:19 +1000
> From: avss01 <avss01 at gmail.com>
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at lists.naks.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
> Message-ID:
>    <CAES7Nr1UpcKU9V76zKPX=F6xBYLW0GkDdu8J8G0idN0WH73BUg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Thankyou Wouter from down under.  Your efforts in keeping us all in touch
> is much appreciated.  The community adds so much to the hobby....just to
> know that I am not the only crazy.
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> Message: 14
> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 23:02:34 +0200
> From: bb <bernard.boitrel at gmail.com>
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at lists.naks.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
> Message-ID: <53C050EA.4060902 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> 
> Dear Wouter,
> 
> That's from far the best news of the month.
> Really happy the list is back!
> 
> So we are!
> Cheers
> Benrard
> 
> Wouter Heijke a écrit :
>> Hi Nalktalkers,
>> 
>> It's been some time!
>> The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave
>> up fixing it.
>> It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or continue
>> with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server, dedicated to
>> this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it should be
>> less sensitive to providers blocking it.
>> 
>> It is: http://lists.naks.com
>> Officially also the list's email address is now "naktalk at lists.naks.com"
>> but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.
>> 
>> I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
>> something is not working right send me a personal email.
>> 
>> There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the wiki,
>> provided by Manos, thank you!
>> You can find it in the usual place:
>> http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents
>> 
>> Enjoy Naktalk again!
>> 
>> Wouter
>> 
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>                        Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist
>> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 15
> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:08:53 -0400
> From: "Richard L. Hess" <lists at richardhess.com>
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at lists.naks.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
> Message-ID: <53C05265.7030905 at richardhess.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> Thank you, Wouter! This list has been a valuable resource for me.
> 
> I'm now up to 7 Dragons (though two are in hospital), a CR4A, and I 
> think I will soon have six MR-1s in various conditions.
> 
> www.richardhess.com/tape/facility.htm though this is a bit out of date. 
> Some updates are visible here when I was digitizing the seismic IRIG 
> tapes from the Mt. St. Helens volcano eruption from 1980.
> https://www.facebook.com/rlhess/media_set?set=a.10150685039187755.446547.698822754&type=3
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On 2014-07-11 2:36 PM, Wouter Heijke wrote:
>> Hi Nalktalkers,
>> 
>> It's been some time!
>> The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave
>> up fixing it.
> 
> -- 
> Richard L. Hess                   email: richard at richardhess.com
> Aurora, Ontario, Canada           http://www.richardhess.com/
> http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm
> Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 16
> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:13:22 -0400
> From: Roland <josephjean at verizon.net>
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at lists.naks.com>
> Subject: [naktalk] Happy!
> Message-ID: <nw7mn8q89w56d18kbem2i25j.1405113202327 at email.android.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> I'm thrilled it's back!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Samsung tablet.
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> Message: 17
> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 16:12:10 -0600
> From: "=?utf-8?b?Sm95LUVsbCAmIFJhaW5lcg==?="
>    <joyell.solie at sasktel.net>
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at lists.naks.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
> Message-ID: <20140711161210.xfonklxhc0o4c40w at webmail.sasktel.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=UTF-8;    format="flowed"
> 
> whooo hooo ! :) awesome :)
> 
> Thanks Wouter
> 
> Cheers,
> Rainer
> 
>> On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 20:36:07 +0200, Wouter Heijke <wheijke at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>> Hi Nalktalkers,
>> 
>> It's been some time!
>> The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave
>> up fixing it. 
>> It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or continue
>> with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server, dedicated to
>> this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it should be
>> less sensitive to providers blocking it. 
>> 
>> It is: http://lists.naks.com
>> Officially also the list's email address is now "naktalk at lists.naks.com"
>> but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being. 
>> 
>> I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
>> something is not working right send me a personal email. 
>> 
>> There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the wiki,
>> provided by Manos, thank you!
>> You can find it in the usual place:
>> http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents
>> 
>> Enjoy Naktalk again!
>> 
>> Wouter
>> 
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>                        Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist
>> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 18
> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 00:16:40 +0200
> From: Gerhard Wartha <gerhard.wartha at gmail.com>
> To: KEVIN ROGERS <kroger1032 at rogers.com>, Talk about Nakamichi
>    Cassette Decks <naktalk at lists.naks.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
> Message-ID: <30E802C4-F541-4C80-8144-D78CBE6EB182 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed";
>    DelSp="yes"
> 
> I put you on my List.
> 
> Thinking   on selling a 1000ZXL in parts !
> 
> 50 or 100$ for every part.
> 
> The Problem is this Deck is playing very well , but has no working   
> Record .
> 
> So It must sell for 1300.- in parts.
> 
> I did buy it in Japan,  It  did come with  the airplane to europe.
> 
> 
> But you can use 4mm  black screws with an  black  rubber washer. You  
> find that on Ebay Germany. I was finding the Screws for a 1000II  
> Cabinet that way.
> regards
> 
> Gerhard
> 
> 
>> Am 11.07.2014 um 20:53 schrieb KEVIN ROGERS:
>> 
>> Great news Wouter. Let me kick it off with a question. Does anyone  
>> know where I can find a set of the plastic surrounds for the bolts   
>> by the handles that fasten a 1000ZXL to the cabinet?
>> 
>> Kevin Rogers
>> 
>> 
>> On Friday, July 11, 2014 2:38:58 PM, Wouter Heijke  
>> <wheijke at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Nalktalkers,
>> 
>> It's been some time!
>> The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I  
>> gave
>> up fixing it.
>> It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or  
>> continue
>> with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server,  
>> dedicated to
>> this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it  
>> should be
>> less sensitive to providers blocking it.
>> 
>> It is: http://lists.naks.com/
>> Officially also the list's email address is now  
>> "naktalk at lists.naks.com"
>> but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.
>> 
>> I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
>> something is not working right send me a personal email.
>> 
>> There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the  
>> wiki,
>> provided by Manos, thank you!
>> You can find it in the usual place:
>> http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents
>> 
>> Enjoy Naktalk again!
>> 
>> Wouter
>> 
>> ========--------------------------------------------------------- 
>> =========
>>          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com/
>> ========--------------------------------------------------------- 
>> =========
>>                        Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist
>> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/ 
>> naktalk
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>> 
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>> =========
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>> ========--------------------------------------------------------- 
>> =========
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> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 18:31:37 -0400
> From: Dennis Ball <dball1 at woh.rr.com>
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at lists.naks.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Happy!
> Message-ID:
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> 
> Same here!  Hats off to Wouter for all his efforts in keeping this going.
> 
> Dennis
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Roland <josephjean at verizon.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm thrilled it's back!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Samsung tablet.
>> 
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> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 10:43:25 +1000
> From: "Cartrite" <cartrite at optusnet.com.au>
> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at lists.naks.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
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> ...Hi All...big thanks from me as well,still having problems with the 680 
> but in no hurry and will let things settle down before asking for advice.AtB 
> Baz.
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Wouter Heijke
> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 4:36 AM
> To: naktalk at lists.naks.com
> Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
> 
> Hi Nalktalkers,
> 
> It's been some time!
> The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave
> up fixing it.
> It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or continue
> with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server, dedicated to
> this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it should be
> less sensitive to providers blocking it.
> 
> It is: http://lists.naks.com
> Officially also the list's email address is now "naktalk at lists.naks.com"
> but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.
> 
> I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
> something is not working right send me a personal email.
> 
> There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the wiki,
> provided by Manos, thank you!
> You can find it in the usual place:
> http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents
> 
> Enjoy Naktalk again!
> 
> Wouter
> 
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 21
> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 11:41:59 +0530
> From: Umesh R <umeshchandran.r at gmail.com>
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks <naktalk at lists.naks.com>
> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
> Message-ID:
>    <CALkUgJOfx8T3N7PrSUgKndwqzePm3ABgh-xMAAY5bnsvaYgpuw at mail.gmail.com>
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> 
> Thank you very much Mr. Wouter for bringing this back. Feeling lucky
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 6:13 AM, Cartrite <cartrite at optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> ...Hi All...big thanks from me as well,still having problems with the 680
>> but in no hurry and will let things settle down before asking for
>> advice.AtB Baz.
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Wouter Heijke
>> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 4:36 AM
>> To: naktalk at lists.naks.com
>> Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Nalktalkers,
>> 
>> It's been some time!
>> The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave
>> up fixing it.
>> It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or continue
>> with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server, dedicated to
>> this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it should be
>> less sensitive to providers blocking it.
>> 
>> It is: http://lists.naks.com
>> Officially also the list's email address is now "naktalk at lists.naks.com"
>> but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.
>> 
>> I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
>> something is not working right send me a personal email.
>> 
>> There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the wiki,
>> provided by Manos, thank you!
>> You can find it in the usual place:
>> http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents
>> 
>> Enjoy Naktalk again!
>> 
>> Wouter
>> 
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>         Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>>                       Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist
>> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>> 
>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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>> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
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> Message: 22
> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 10:38:39 +0200
> From: Ziggo <n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl>
> To: "naktalk at lists.naks.com" <naktalk at lists.naks.com>
> Subject: [naktalk] Dragon heads
> Message-ID: <A47B4756-9A06-4DBC-ABCB-506F714D1696 at ziggo.nl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Good to hear from you all. Great to have Naktalk back. Thanks  Wouter.
>> Recently i did a overhaul job on a Dragon.
>> I wonder if you guys know a place where we can buy used or new playback
>> heads for this machine? (I am afraid for the answer)
>> Best regards
>> 
>> Norman
> 
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From gtsdave at bellsouth.net  Sat Jul 12 14:51:41 2014
From: gtsdave at bellsouth.net (David)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 08:51:41 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk Digest, Vol 136, Issue 1
Message-ID: <91r447voi47hxb4xgc7wbub5.1405169501259@email.android.com>

You might be able to use nylon screws which you may be able to find at an auto parts store or hardware store.  Perhaps a straw and nylon washer.

Sent from my ASUS MeMO Pad

From douglocke at whiteapple.u-net.com  Sat Jul 12 16:24:10 2014
From: douglocke at whiteapple.u-net.com (Doug locke)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 15:24:10 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
In-Reply-To: <CALkUgJOfx8T3N7PrSUgKndwqzePm3ABgh-xMAAY5bnsvaYgpuw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6ed645af2372dda51d5bb2de5e56c2de.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
 <87144E68AFE041C494D29F1660716FD7@InternetPC>
 <CALkUgJOfx8T3N7PrSUgKndwqzePm3ABgh-xMAAY5bnsvaYgpuw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53C1450A.3050800@whiteapple.u-net.com>

As an inveterate "lurker", many thanks for carrying on with Naktalk.

Doug.


On 12/07/2014 07:11, Umesh R wrote:
> Thank you very much Mr. Wouter for bringing this back. Feeling lucky
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 6:13 AM, Cartrite <cartrite at optusnet.com.au 
> <mailto:cartrite at optusnet.com.au>> wrote:
>
>     ...Hi All...big thanks from me as well,still having problems with
>     the 680 but in no hurry and will let things settle down before
>     asking for advice.AtB Baz.
>
>     -----Original Message----- From: Wouter Heijke
>     Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 4:36 AM
>     To: naktalk at lists.naks.com <mailto:naktalk at lists.naks.com>
>     Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
>
>
>     Hi Nalktalkers,
>
>     It's been some time!
>     The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and
>     I gave
>     up fixing it.
>     It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or
>     continue
>     with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server,
>     dedicated to
>     this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it
>     should be
>     less sensitive to providers blocking it.
>
>     It is: http://lists.naks.com
>     Officially also the list's email address is now
>     "naktalk at lists.naks.com <mailto:naktalk at lists.naks.com>"
>     but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.
>
>     I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
>     something is not working right send me a personal email.
>
>     There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the
>     wiki,
>     provided by Manos, thank you!
>     You can find it in the usual place:
>     http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents
>
>     Enjoy Naktalk again!
>
>     Wouter
>
>     ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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>     ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
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From mneitzel at gmail.com  Sat Jul 12 18:59:22 2014
From: mneitzel at gmail.com (Matthew L. Neitzel)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 11:59:22 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk Digest, Vol 136, Issue 1
In-Reply-To: <91r447voi47hxb4xgc7wbub5.1405169501259@email.android.com>
References: <91r447voi47hxb4xgc7wbub5.1405169501259@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <3A21344F-4402-4248-AE14-A9B1EA2A7D8B@gmail.com>

Yeah that might work.

While we are at it. Where do I find the 10k volume pot for the rx-202 transport ?

Matthew L. Neitzel


> On Jul 12, 2014, at 7:51 AM, David <gtsdave at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> 
> You might be able to use nylon screws which you may be able to find at an auto parts store or hardware store.  Perhaps a straw and nylon washer.
> 
> Sent from my ASUS MeMO Pad
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
> ========---------------------------------------------------------=========
>                        Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist
> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk
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From wotbob01 at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 13 01:22:11 2014
From: wotbob01 at yahoo.com (Bob Naylor)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 16:22:11 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Happy!
In-Reply-To: <CAMAHYTT063BXrp38+mqsSvmuhtuJvLBFzhhGD6odTZ8e=a3BYg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <nw7mn8q89w56d18kbem2i25j.1405113202327@email.android.com>
 <CAMAHYTT063BXrp38+mqsSvmuhtuJvLBFzhhGD6odTZ8e=a3BYg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1405207331.75992.YahooMailNeo@web184704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Yes, thank you Wouter!
Bob N


On Friday, July 11, 2014 4:05 PM, Dennis Ball <dball1 at woh.rr.com> wrote:
 


Same here!  Hats off to Wouter for all his efforts in keeping this going.

Dennis



On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Roland <josephjean at verizon.net> wrote:

I'm thrilled it's back!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Sent from Samsung tablet.
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From flifton at mac.com  Sun Jul 13 22:26:32 2014
From: flifton at mac.com (Frederick Lifton)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 13:26:32 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Yay for Wouter
Message-ID: <9F30EA48-DE15-407D-BC04-161E6DDFA31C@mac.com>

I don't post much nowadays, but I've read and enjoyed this list for more than a decade. Thanks, Wouter, for keeping it going! It is much appreciated.
regards,
Fred Lifton




"When in analog Rome, do as analog Romans do." The Gourds




From earthrite at gn.apc.org  Mon Jul 14 19:46:36 2014
From: earthrite at gn.apc.org (earthrite)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 18:46:36 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk Digest, Vol 136, Issue 2
In-Reply-To: <mailman.0.1405245601.22326.naktalk@lists.naks.com>
References: <mailman.0.1405245601.22326.naktalk@lists.naks.com>
Message-ID: <4BFBF2CF-7A8C-4271-B98F-C8DB6A546E39@gn.apc.org>

"Some of us could only dream of having a server in our house .... When i were young we had it hard ....".

Brilliant Wouter

Gracias

Ian r 
Scotland

From perry.nak at comcast.net  Tue Jul 15 12:11:40 2014
From: perry.nak at comcast.net (Perry Esposito)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 06:11:40 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] 700zxe schematics
Message-ID: <2ADF02D5-6EF6-4775-AF79-9D1DD3069D3C@comcast.net>

Great to see Naktalk back Wouter, congrats! Equally great to see so many acknowledgements!

Does any one have access to a set of readable 700zxe schematics and board layouts? The resolution is terrible on the wiki set and I going blind trying to de-cypher them working on Carlos (Rams old one) 700zxe. 
Thanks!



Sent from Perry Esposito via iPhone

From echo at techno-link.com  Tue Jul 15 12:56:29 2014
From: echo at techno-link.com (VLADO ANGELOV)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 13:56:29 +0300
Subject: [naktalk] 482 stops near tape end rewind only
Message-ID: <011501cfa01b$6ed5cbe0$4c8163a0$@techno-link.com>

Hello guys!

Tried to find this fault in the web, unfortunately unsuccessfully.

My newly acquired Nak has this strange symptom - never met before. Only
during rewind it stops at 8/10 of the tape length, then again 2-3 times till
end of tape. I cleaned the stuck right pinch roller /guide/, transport,
changed belts, transport detection lamp OK.

Will appreciate any help, 

Thanks, Vlado

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From perry.nak at comcast.net  Tue Jul 15 15:19:12 2014
From: perry.nak at comcast.net (Perry Esposito)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 09:19:12 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] 482 stops near tape end rewind
Message-ID: <0EBA60D5-84E4-4B41-BBB7-A2D56212E6AC@comcast.net>

May be as simple as the Stop & Play position adjustment of the main cam. If the Stop and Play markers do not line up with the pointer as per the manual, then the brakes will drag on the reel hubs (as the cam actuates the brakes) when in FF or Rew. Adjusting Stop & Play automatically adjusts FF& REW to the correct position. 

Sent from Perry Esposito via iPhone

From mneitzel at gmail.com  Tue Jul 15 15:52:52 2014
From: mneitzel at gmail.com (Matthew L. Neitzel)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 08:52:52 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] nak rx-202 10K volume pot, where to get one
Message-ID: <CAA6AgxicAQvEb4mf9tT4zc1Thr0bF=iBgo0y2omHGtX1WdyQoA@mail.gmail.com>

shaft is broken on mine and drawer keeps trying to close no matter what.

Thanks


-- 
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From g.p.lyskin at paradise.net.nz  Thu Jul 17 05:58:45 2014
From: g.p.lyskin at paradise.net.nz (Gennady Lyskin)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 15:58:45 +1200
Subject: [naktalk] GennLab. Out of office
Message-ID: <AF6FAA5C798E45B3BC352B8138B318E6@emachinef0bb72>

Hello Nakers-Talkers :))


Nice to see the site back.

Wouter, thank you very much indeed!!!



FYI
No shipping from GennLab from 8/Aug/2014 to 4/Sept/2014.
Heading to Europe.
E-mails will be answered from my mobile phone.



If anyone is planning to order tapes (cassette or reel-to-reel), please do 
it now from

www.gennlab.com/alignment_cassettes.html for cassette tape orders or,

from www.gennlab.com/rtr_tapes.php for reel-to-reel tape orders.

There are a couple of new pictures of the Recording System on those pages.


The deadline for placing orders to be shipped is 06/Aug/2014.



Thank you.



Best regards,

Gennady Lyskin

G e n n L a b
http://www.gennlab.com
info at gennlab.com
Tel: +64 21 238 3056
New Zealand


From mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk  Sat Jul 19 13:57:25 2014
From: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk (Mercedes Benz)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 12:57:25 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!
Message-ID: <BAY406-EAS229E027B6F1013EF5BF9D62B6F20@phx.gbl>

Glad to see naktalk back. Thanks Wouter

Regards
Nadeem

Sent from my killer Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Wouter Heijke
Sent: 11/07/2014 19:39
To: naktalk at lists.naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk is back!

Hi Nalktalkers,

It's been some time!
The server at my house running the list for 11 years+ gave up and I gave
up fixing it.
It took some time to find a solution, move to yahoo, google, or continue
with my own server... Well it is now a new virtual server, dedicated to
this, and also better equipped for anti-spam measures, also it should be
less sensitive to providers blocking it.

It is: http://lists.naks.com
Officially also the list's email address is now "naktalk at lists.naks.com"
but I have the old email address also in place for the time-being.

I have placed a backup of the old archives, everything is new, so if
something is not working right send me a personal email.

There is also a treat, the owners manual for the Nak 250 is on the wiki,
provided by Manos, thank you!
You can find it in the usual place:
http://wiki.naks.com/doku.php?id=documents

Enjoy Naktalk again!

Wouter

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          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com
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From jrsifontes at gmail.com  Sat Jul 19 20:51:23 2014
From: jrsifontes at gmail.com (Jose Sifontes)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 14:51:23 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Nak CR4 Play Problem
Message-ID: <CAKfmxXBR=6j7cTFKjb+pjssAuZQLkOMC7+XjUZgP4GftiZgH2Q@mail.gmail.com>

I have a Nak CR4 that stops playing after a few secs, with no take up reel
movement.  The mechanism works fine without a tape inserted, the torque
produced by the take-up reel feels strong and continuous (I do not sense a
bald spot issue).  With a tape in, the take up reel does not move.  There
is no idler tire,  it is a gear drive.  Any ideas?  The video in the link
below shows the issue:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he3VfWpVVzE&feature=youtu.be

-- 
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(Pepe) Jose Sifontes
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 21 00:12:05 2014
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 15:12:05 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Nak CR4 Play Problem
In-Reply-To: <CAKfmxXBR=6j7cTFKjb+pjssAuZQLkOMC7+XjUZgP4GftiZgH2Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKfmxXBR=6j7cTFKjb+pjssAuZQLkOMC7+XjUZgP4GftiZgH2Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1405894325.41109.YahooMailNeo@web160205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

If this happens to all -- or most -- cassettes, I would check the takeup reel torque (adjustable 

through VR601). 


-- Ron



On Saturday, July 19, 2014 5:10 PM, Jose Sifontes <jrsifontes at gmail.com> wrote:
 

>
>
>I have a Nak CR4 that stops playing after a few secs, with no take up reel movement.  The mechanism works fine without a tape inserted, the torque produced by the take-up reel feels strong and continuous (I do not sense a bald spot issue).  With a tape in, the take up reel does not move.  There is no idler tire,  it is a gear drive.  Any ideas?  The video in the link below shows the issue:
>
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he3VfWpVVzE&feature=youtu.be
>
>
>-- 
>
>----------
(Pepe) Jose Sifontes
>jrsifontes at gmail.com
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 21 00:12:05 2014
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 15:12:05 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] Nak CR4 Play Problem
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If this happens to all -- or most -- cassettes, I would check the takeup reel torque (adjustable 

through VR601). 


-- Ron



On Saturday, July 19, 2014 5:10 PM, Jose Sifontes <jrsifontes at gmail.com> wrote:
 

>
>
>I have a Nak CR4 that stops playing after a few secs, with no take up reel movement.  The mechanism works fine without a tape inserted, the torque produced by the take-up reel feels strong and continuous (I do not sense a bald spot issue).  With a tape in, the take up reel does not move.  There is no idler tire,  it is a gear drive.  Any ideas?  The video in the link below shows the issue:
>
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he3VfWpVVzE&feature=youtu.be
>
>
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From bfulford2000 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 22 02:23:47 2014
From: bfulford2000 at yahoo.com (Brian Fulford)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 17:23:47 -0700
Subject: [naktalk] RX 505 part
Message-ID: <1405988627.6987.YahooMailNeo@web162202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>



Hi Nak folks, I'm repairing a RX-505 and found the main drive gear to the cassette flip mechanism has the drive pin broke off. Anyone know of a source for these gears?  (ok, I hear laughter) or know of a way to repair them? I'm considering drilling and tapping for a new pin in same location. Any thoughts? part OC08523A Deck serial number 12,537
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From n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl  Tue Jul 22 06:33:11 2014
From: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl (Ziggo)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 06:33:11 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] RX 505 part
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Hi Brian,
Search for contact with B&W in UK.
Maybe they have the parts?
Best regards
Norman

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

> Op 22 jul. 2014 om 02:23 heeft Brian Fulford <bfulford2000 at yahoo.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> 
> Hi Nak folks, I'm repairing a RX-505 and found the main drive gear to the cassette flip mechanism has the drive pin broke off. Anyone know of a source for these gears?  (ok, I hear laughter) or know of a way to repair them? I'm considering drilling and tapping for a new pin in same location. Any thoughts? part OC08523A Deck serial number 12,537
> Thanks
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From perry.nak at comcast.net  Tue Jul 22 13:54:49 2014
From: perry.nak at comcast.net (Perry Esposito)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 07:54:49 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] RX-505 part repair
Message-ID: <6CD105C6-6616-4E90-AB6A-45971E83701F@comcast.net>

I've done that repair two ways. I drilled and tapped and used a nylon screw, cut to length, then sanded the threads slightly so that the original brass roller fit cleanly over it. I also had to surface sand the head of the nylon screw after it was installed so it didn't drag on the underside of the large gear. On the next deck where the brass roller was missing, I had great luck repairing it with an aluminum pop rivet and pop rivet gun.  The key to a successful repair this way is to use a steel (steel washer is much thinner than an aluminum one) backing washer. You have to slightly countersink (Dremel w/ carving bit) where the washer lays to avoid it from catching. The rivet and washer sandwich the nylon gear with a larger surface area. Then cut the rivet to length (Dremel with cut off wheel), debur and grease and you are ready to go. That original idea goes to Vlad, I just improved on it with the sandwich via the backing washer to increase  grab and stability over a larger surface area. I think you have to have a metal surface, as the nylon threads would wear and hang over time. I preferred the pop rivet repair because it is very hard to thread the nylon screw in straight and plumb. If it is crooked at all then the brass roller does not lie flat and hangs. 

Sent from Perry Esposito via iPhone

From maisiepat at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 23 16:32:32 2014
From: maisiepat at yahoo.com (Martin Dawson)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 15:32:32 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 581 and NR 200 noise reduction unit
Message-ID: <1406125952.88830.YahooMailIosMobile@web133106.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>

Hi All,<br/><br/>I have owned both units from new here in the UK bought from Unilet Audio in Malden Surrey in 1982. <br/>I have had the serviced this month and I've got all the hand books that came when I bought them. All the original packaging is here and I have a printed service manual as well.<br/>I no longer need them as my current pre amp hasn't a facility for a tape deck. I also have high quality leads for connection. <br/>The NR 200 also has it's manual I would prefer to sell in the UK both units.<br/><br/>Offers considered but only realistic email me please.<br/><br/>Martin<br/><br/>maisiepat at yahoo.com<a href="https://overview.mail.yahoo.com?.src=iOS"><br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a>
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From echo at techno-link.com  Sat Jul 26 11:04:21 2014
From: echo at techno-link.com (VLADO ANGELOV)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 12:04:21 +0300
Subject: [naktalk] 482 stops near tape end rewind
Message-ID: <003d01cfa8b0$9716fb90$c544f2b0$@techno-link.com>

Dear all,

Just to clear out for you:

Problem solved by changing C453 1uf of Shut-off PCB Assy.

Perry, appreciate your friendly attempt to help!

Enjoy!

Vlado

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From paer.ericsson at blixtmail.se  Sat Jul 26 13:02:13 2014
From: paer.ericsson at blixtmail.se (=?utf-8?Q?P=C3=A4r_Ericsson?=)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 13:02:13 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] Nak CR4 Play Problem
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Hi!

Replacing the reel motor is the only solution. This is a well known issue with the Sankyo mechanism.

Regards Pelle.


From: Jose Sifontes 
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 8:51 PM
To: Naktalk at lists.naks.com 
Subject: [naktalk] Nak CR4 Play Problem

I have a Nak CR4 that stops playing after a few secs, with no take up reel movement.  The mechanism works fine without a tape inserted, the torque produced by the take-up reel feels strong and continuous (I do not sense a bald spot issue).  With a tape in, the take up reel does not move.  There is no idler tire,  it is a gear drive.  Any ideas?  The video in the link below shows the issue: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he3VfWpVVzE&feature=youtu.be


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From bg3009 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 26 14:50:55 2014
From: bg3009 at yahoo.com (Bala Ganesh)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 22:50:55 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] Nak CR4 Play Problem
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Have you adjusted the torque? 

Best Regards, 
Bala Ganesh

> On 26 Jul 2014, at 9:02 pm, Pär Ericsson <paer.ericsson at blixtmail.se> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
>  
> Replacing the reel motor is the only solution. This is a well known issue with the Sankyo mechanism.
>  
> Regards Pelle.
>  
>  
> From: Jose Sifontes
> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 8:51 PM
> To: Naktalk at lists.naks.com
> Subject: [naktalk] Nak CR4 Play Problem
>  
> I have a Nak CR4 that stops playing after a few secs, with no take up reel movement.  The mechanism works fine without a tape inserted, the torque produced by the take-up reel feels strong and continuous (I do not sense a bald spot issue).  With a tape in, the take up reel does not move.  There is no idler tire,  it is a gear drive.  Any ideas?  The video in the link below shows the issue:
>  
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he3VfWpVVzE&feature=youtu.be
>  
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From jrsifontes at gmail.com  Sat Jul 26 15:41:30 2014
From: jrsifontes at gmail.com (Jose Sifontes)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 09:41:30 -0400
Subject: [naktalk] Reel Motor on the CR4
Message-ID: <CAKfmxXAiAfT7m_Q2rHEVMewY1SnW+DewJr00pKh9k9NTdJwOmg@mail.gmail.com>

All: Thanks for your input.  I am packing the deck up today to send to
Nakdoc for reel motor replacement. Appreciate your input and suggestions.

Regards,

Jose

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From maisiepat at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 28 14:54:47 2014
From: maisiepat at yahoo.com (Martin Dawson)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 13:54:47 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 581 & NR 200
Message-ID: <1406552087.627.YahooMailIosMobile@web133102.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>

Hi All,<br/><br/>I've owned both units from new 1983 both fully serviced July this year. I have all the original packaging and manuals including a service manual all  97 pages!<br/><br/>I now own a Grad 1 pre amp which hasn't a facility for tape and because I no longer tape units in my car.<br/>Wonderful machine like to see them go to a good home I'm in London U.K.<br/>I have an array of leads to connect up the units, still have the original metal tape that came with the 581 and the Nakamichi screwdriver!<br/><br/>Reluctant to post but will oblige post will be at cost.<br/><br/>Regards,<br/><br/>Martin Dawson <a href="https://overview.mail.yahoo.com?.src=iOS"><br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a>
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From scott.h.garner at lmco.com  Sat Mar  1 13:37:01 2014
From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com (Garner, Scott H)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 12:37:01 +0000
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
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Glad I could help


From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tanner
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 3:47 PM
To: naktalk naktalk
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

Scott,

I've changed the second cap now. The C 219, and the hum is gone. Both channels work great. Thanks for your help and yours too, Cheryl.

Peter
________________________________
From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com<mailto:scott.h.garner at lmco.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com<mailto:naktalk at naks.com>
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 11:34:50 +0000
Peter,

Welcome to the world of repairing consumer electronics, mislabeled circuit boards and incorrect schematics are not that uncommon.
Your hum in the right channel might be another problem. Try the cap and let me know what happens.

Scott

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tanner
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 5:56 AM
To: naktalk naktalk
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

Hi Scott,

Yes, by removing C119 the clicks and crackles stopped. I've put in another 1800pF cap and the left channel is now good. No hum at all. The right channel has a hum though so I'll probably have to change C219 as well. Still in Dolby C only. As soon as I get new caps I'll change both including the C119 as the replacement cap is also an orange one and although it's working now it will probably fail again. By the way, in this deck on the board C119 and C219 are marked as C123 and C223 which is weird as those are electrolytic caps and are elsewhere. So  C123 and C223 show twice which was confusing. I actually had to blow up that part of the schematics to make sure. Again, thanks a lot for your help

Peter
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From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com<mailto:scott.h.garner at lmco.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com<mailto:naktalk at naks.com>
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 19:05:15 +0000
Peter,

You are correct, the 2's are for the right channel and the 1's are for the left. Q704 will be fine with C119 removed.

Here is the signal flow thru the dolby chips. If you look at the uA7300 chips you will see the block diagram of what is inside of the chip. To simplify my description I am going to label the op amps in the chips as follows:
Op amp between pins 9, 10 and 11 will be number 1.
Op amp whose input is pin 12 will be number 2.
Op amp whose output is pin 14 will be number 3, this op amp is feed from op amp number 2.
Op amp whose output is pin 16 will be number 4, this op amp is feed from op amp number 3.
The other 2 op amps in the chip we don't have to worry about, they are used in the noise shaping feedback section. For the sake of this description I am going to leave them out.

Ok for playback mode here we go:
Note: The schematic shows the Play/Record switch, SW301, in the record position.
The signal from the play head enters op amp number 1 of IC102. It leaves op amp 1 and goes to op amp 2 of IC102. Op amp 2 feeds op amp 3 of IC102, the signal then leaves op amp 3 via pin 14, goes thru C140 goes to C115 and enters op amp number 1 of IC101. It then leaves op amp 1 and goes to op amp number 2 of IC101 via R125. It then leaves op amp 2 and enters op amp 3 of IC101. It then leaves op amp 3 of IC101 via pin 14, thru C120 then to the outputs via Switch 301. Yes op amp number 4 is not used during playback.

For record:
The signal from the line input enters op amp 1 of IC101. It then leaves op amp 1 and enters op amp 2 of IC101 via R125, at the same time the signal leaving op amp 1 is sent to the line out via R126 and SW301. The signal leaves op amp 2 of IC101 and enters op amp 3 of IC101. It then leaves op amp 3 and enters op amp 4 of IC101. It then leaves op amp 4 of IC101 via C133 and goes to op amp 2 of IC102. From there it enters op amp 3 of IC102 then out of op amp 3 and into op amp 4 of IC102. The signal then leaves op amp 4 via pin 16 on its way to the eq, bias and record head.

Scott

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tanner
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 12:29 PM
To: naktalk naktalk
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

Gosh, thanks a million, Scott. This has been about the most precise description of the Dolby circuit I've ever seen. I would not have the knowledge for figuring it out just by looking at the SM. When you said C 137 I proceeded to remove two of them off a donor board. They are Mylars but have not put them into the 481Z. The C119 is an orange cap 1800p. I don't have a new one unfortunately but I have one or two from this donor board but that means it's not sure if they are good. I'll try to get hold of a couple of new ones. In the meantime I'll do what you suggest and remove the one in the 481Z. Question. By removing it then turning the deck back on I am not going to blow that Q704, by any chance? Or any other transistor? And the 1's like 119, 137 etc relate to the left channel while the 2's to the right, correct? Thanks again

Peter
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From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com<mailto:scott.h.garner at lmco.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com<mailto:naktalk at naks.com>
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:05:49 +0000
Peter,
A slight correction to my first email, I meant IC101 is used for B and C, IC102 is for C only.  The signal passes thru both no matter what NR is selected. When NR is off D101 and D104 are biased on thus turning off the noise shaping of both dolby chips. Also Q106, Q107 and Q108 are turned on thus setting the noise shaping of IC101 to the dolby b mode but since D101 is biased on the chip remains in the noise shaping off mode. When the dolby switch is set to On/B mode the bias on D101 is removed thus turning the noise shaping on for IC101 which is still set to B mode cause Q106, 107 and 108 are still on. Setting the dolby c on turns off Q106, 107 and Q108 setting the noise shaping of IC101 to c mode, also the bias on D104 is removed turning on the noise shaping of IC102. At the sametime Q105, 704 and 111 are turned on. This is where I think your problem is. If you look at Q704 when it is turned on it is putting a filter made up of C119, R715 and L701 in circuit but only when the unit is in record mode via SW301, the play/record switch. C119 is a PP cap, they go bad a lot. I would replace that cap. If you don't have one on hand just remove it and see if your noise goes away. In a early email I stated to check C137, don't bother that cap is used in both record and play, I missed that the first time I look over the schematic. I hope that helps you understand what is happening in the dolby circuit.
Scott


From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tanner
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:45 AM
To: naktalk naktalk
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

Hello Scott,

Yes, the unit plays back in all modes on both channels perfectly. NR off, Dolby B on or Dolby C on. It erases and records perfectly on both channels with NR off or in Dolby B. In Dolby C however it erases but records a lot of crackles and a hum on the left channel while there is a slight hum in the right channel as well but no crackles. So the only problem I have is recording in Dolby C. That is the issue. Tapes that have been recorded earlier or tapes that have been recorded on other machines using Dolby C play back perfectly. Thanks

Peter
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From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com<mailto:scott.h.garner at lmco.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com<mailto:naktalk at naks.com>
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 20:15:31 +0000
Peter,

I can help you but I need more info, can you supply more info on your problem.
Does the unit playback ok in all modes, NR off, b on or c on.
The unit records fine with the NR off or b on correct? With the unit in record mode do both sides sound ok then when you play the recorded tape back the one side is not working.
If you follow the schematic IC102 is used for dolby b and IC101 for dolby c, for the left channel, but the signal goes thru both no matter what NR is selected. If you can record at all the bias is fine and IC102 is good.

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tanner
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 6:43 AM
To: naktalk naktalk
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

Thanks, Cheryl and Ron,

I've tried the spray, no change. The problem is that I can't identify the caps in the SM that go with the Dolby C. As I've mentioned the Dolby B works perfectly. The manual indicates a number of caps, some pp some electrolytic, some Mylar but all under the Dolby NR in general. There must be at least 50 all together for B and C, left and right. I got lost in the schematic while trying to follow the circuit from the switch. There are a no of big blue filter caps in the NR and as there are crackles in one channel while the other has just a plain hum some of them maybe responsible. I am not sure if I have the know-how to figure it out though. I don't often use the Dolby C for recording but this the only deck I have that has it so it's a pity. Fortunately the playback is OK and the B has not been affected so far. Thanks, anyway

Peter
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From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com<mailto:kaupp240 at hotmail.com>
To: naktalk at naks.com<mailto:naktalk at naks.com>
Subject: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:19:41 -1000
Hi Peter,

A few years ago I lost one of the channels on my 581 -- but only when Dolby was turned on. It sounded as you describe but was also very weak in volume. When Dolby was OFF it worked fine. The 581 is pretty easy (no Dolby C and no double Dolby).

It turned out to be one of the caps in the Dolby circuit -- but it was NOT an orange cap. If memory serves me correctly it some type of film cap and was either green or brown.

Get out the schematic and follow the circuits from the Dolby switch. See where the circuits go for Dolby B and Dolby OFF compared to where the circuit goes for Dolby C. The 581 was simple and the difference between Dolby ON and Dolby OFF was minimal. With Dolby ON there were only 1 or 2 caps that got switched into the circuit as I recall. That made it pretty easy to fix.

Aloha and good luck,
Cheryl

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From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 2:27 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] 481Z
Peter, it is unlikely the problem is cased by the oscillator. I would suspect the Dolby
circuit (specifically, the Dolby C section). While it could be a bad cap, it could also
be a hairline crack in the PCB in that area. The latter can sometimes be diagnosed
by light tapping on the suspect PCB area and/or judicious application of a freezing
spray.

Good luck,

-- Ron

On Monday, February 17, 2014 8:19 AM, Peter Tanner <pbtanner at hotmail.com<mailto:pbtanner at hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi everybody,

I have a 481 Z which functions very well. Lately, however, while recording with the Dolby C it has developed some issues. The left channel is full of crackling noise and a hum. It still erases though. The right channel seems OK. In Dolby B or without NR the deck erases and records normally on all types of tapes. The two 472 caps in the bias oscillator have been replaced with the same value, same tolerance, same voltage high quality caps. No change. Otherwise the deck has not had any electronic repairs done to it. Can anyone give me an idea what it could be caused by and if there is a fix for it? Thanks

Peter

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From kaupp240 at hotmail.com  Sat Mar  1 18:40:44 2014
From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com (Cheryl Kaupp)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 07:40:44 -1000
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z
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You are welcome. Enjoy!

  _____  

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Garner, Scott H
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 2:37 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z



Glad I could help

 

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Peter Tanner
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 3:47 PM
To: naktalk naktalk
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [naktalk] 481Z

 

Scott,

I've changed the second cap now. The C 219, and the hum is gone. Both
channels work great. Thanks for your help and yours too, Cheryl.

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From kaupp240 at hotmail.com  Sat Mar  1 18:48:17 2014
From: kaupp240 at hotmail.com (Cheryl Kaupp)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 07:48:17 -1000
Subject: [naktalk] 670ZX
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I would add one thing: Make careful note of which screw goes where on the
transport assembly as there are some differences and they can be crucial.
The first time I disassembled a transport I swapped 2 screws when I put it
back together and it wouldn't power on because one of the screws is crucial
to the grounding of the transport. It took a while to figure out what I'd
screwed up. :)

Aloha,
Cheryl 

-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf
Of Gerhard Wartha
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 1:59 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] 670ZX


0: Look how the Cam Drive and Control Cam   works on this transport.

1: No need to <align heads if you don´t touch them when you replace idler.
use a  screwdriver Philips 2 on the transport screws .


LOOK AT THE SERVICE MANUAL page 7 and 8

2: disassemble  the middle alu Plate from the  transport. So that the Idler
Tire is free to work on.

3; remove the Cassette Door switch on the top from transport,.  
remember  the way from the cables to that switch.

3; take a photo from every step and screw  from your work.

4; work on the tire only if you do have the fitting spare tire .

5: Work on the wheel by underlay the wheel with a small part  ( 2 to
4 mm thick) to pre-vend  the  wheel arm from banding.

6: There is a spring  who holds the wheel. Make sure that spring does  
not get lost   in the moment you open/ remove  the washer .

7; take  a close look how this spring is  holing on the Plastic wheel. or
see my  photos.

8: replace the tire and make sure the tire is  round on that white wheel.

9:    re-assemble the wheel. The spring   has a small arm who gets  
hold by the plastic wheel. That way the spring gets turned with the wheel.

10. re-assemble the transport plates means  re-assemble  Cam Drive and
Control Cam, same time.

11: Re-assemble all bigger springs between the transport aluminum   
Plates and the Cassette Door break. Use photos to remember how many and
where.

11. Control  the cam mechanism first by Turing  the belt / wheel or Motor by
hand.
Than switch on the Deck and only if needed perform the  Mechanism Control
Cam Adjustment, page 11 in the SERVICE MANUAL.


12; Do that work only if you are  firm with mechanics like this..  
Better sending the Transport or the Deck to a technician.

regards

Gerhard / Vienna





From carl.nyqvist at gmail.com  Sat Mar  1 17:56:48 2014
From: carl.nyqvist at gmail.com (Carl Nyqvist)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 17:56:48 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7
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Hi!
My name is Carl, and I am new here.
I have been calibrating my CR-7 deck, and everything seems to be working fine now exempt for two things:
I have good THD figures on normal and metal tapes (0,3%-0,4%), but on chrome tapes I get 1,5%. This is when recording and playing back 400Hz tone at 0dB. At playback it seems to be fine so there is something with the recording. I have measured the bias voltage while recording and it is around 20mV. Any ideas what the cause might be?
Also, when doing a frequency response check recording-playback I get results within specs, but if I engage dolby B or C I get a much higher curve in the higher frequencies, about +2 dB. I did not have a Nakamichi level tape so I used a TEAC dolby level tape and set the voltage to 387mV. Could that be why?

If anyone has any ideas I would very much appreciate some advice.

Carl




From g.p.lyskin at paradise.net.nz  Sun Mar  2 09:57:57 2014
From: g.p.lyskin at paradise.net.nz (Gennady Lyskin)
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 21:57:57 +1300
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7
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Message-ID: <99047B90C0C44654A5521CAC04040970@emachinef0bb72>

Hi Carl,

Nak Level cassettes are not Dolby 200 nWb/m cassettes.
That level is lower than TEAC MMT-150 Dolby level.
Nak Level cassettes have confusing marking on the label "200 nWb/m", which 
is not correct.

Using  a TEAC MMT-150 Dolby level tape you should set the voltage to 437mV.

Regards,

Gennady Lyskin

G e n n L a b
http://www.gennlab.com
info at gennlab.com
Tel: +64 21 238 3056
New Zealand
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From: "Carl Nyqvist" <carl.nyqvist at gmail.com>
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 5:56 AM
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7


> Hi!
> My name is Carl, and I am new here.
> I have been calibrating my CR-7 deck, and everything seems to be working 
> fine now exempt for two things:
> I have good THD figures on normal and metal tapes (0,3%-0,4%), but on 
> chrome tapes I get 1,5%. This is when recording and playing back 400Hz 
> tone at 0dB. At playback it seems to be fine so there is something with 
> the recording. I have measured the bias voltage while recording and it is 
> around 20mV. Any ideas what the cause might be?
> Also, when doing a frequency response check recording-playback I get 
> results within specs, but if I engage dolby B or C I get a much higher 
> curve in the higher frequencies, about +2 dB. I did not have a Nakamichi 
> level tape so I used a TEAC dolby level tape and set the voltage to 387mV. 
> Could that be why?
>
> If anyone has any ideas I would very much appreciate some advice.
>
> Carl
>
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From cartrite at optusnet.com.au  Sat Mar  1 23:12:07 2014
From: cartrite at optusnet.com.au (Cartrite)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 09:12:07 +1100
Subject: [naktalk] 670Zx
In-Reply-To: <8D099367-385F-41AE-85EA-BC2BE82D0976@comcast.net>
References: <8D099367-385F-41AE-85EA-BC2BE82D0976@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <423FAB75B4DE4D10855AEDD419DC33D3@InternetPC>

Hi Perry..not yet,i'll be in touch.Bas.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Perry Esposito 
Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2014 6:17 AM 
To: naktalk at naks.com 
Subject: [naktalk] 670Zx 

Basil, did you check the bulb/photo diode as I responded on Tapeheads!
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From cartrite at optusnet.com.au  Sat Mar  1 23:17:31 2014
From: cartrite at optusnet.com.au (Cartrite)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 09:17:31 +1100
Subject: [naktalk] 670ZX
In-Reply-To: <D544F76B-2D67-45C0-A49F-414A9D6DC35E@gmail.com>
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Thanks Gerhard...very much appreciated,i'll give it a go if i can get deck 
playing.Bas.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Gerhard Wartha
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 10:58 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] 670ZX


0: Look how the Cam Drive and Control Cam   works on this transport.

1: No need to <align heads if you don´t touch them when you replace
idler. use a  screwdriver Philips 2 on the transport screws .


LOOK AT THE SERVICE MANUAL page 7 and 8

2: disassemble  the middle alu Plate from the  transport. So that the
Idler Tire is free to work on.

3; remove the Cassette Door switch on the top from transport,.
remember  the way from the cables to that switch.

3; take a photo from every step and screw  from your work.

4; work on the tire only if you do have the fitting spare tire .

5: Work on the wheel by underlay the wheel with a small part  ( 2 to
4 mm thick) to pre-vend  the  wheel arm from banding.

6: There is a spring  who holds the wheel. Make sure that spring does
not get lost   in the moment you open/ remove  the washer .

7; take  a close look how this spring is  holing on the Plastic
wheel. or see my  photos.

8: replace the tire and make sure the tire is  round on that white
wheel.

9:    re-assemble the wheel. The spring   has a small arm who gets
hold by the plastic wheel. That way the spring gets turned with the
wheel.

10. re-assemble the transport plates means  re-assemble  Cam Drive
and Control Cam, same time.

11: Re-assemble all bigger springs between the transport aluminum
Plates and the Cassette Door break. Use photos to remember how many
and where.

11. Control  the cam mechanism first by Turing  the belt / wheel or
Motor by hand.
Than switch on the Deck and only if needed perform the  Mechanism
Control Cam Adjustment, page 11 in the SERVICE MANUAL.


12; Do that work only if you are  firm with mechanics like this..
Better sending the Transport or the Deck to a technician.

regards

Gerhard / Vienna








Am 28.02.2014 um 01:14 schrieb Cartrite:

> Hi Guys...i’ve been given a 670 thats been in storeage for many
> years but was supposed to be working when stored.Replaced belts but
> baulked at idler tire,seems difficult to get out(any tips?).Anyway
> Play & FF/Rewind works for a few seconds then stops,there is sound
> thru Headphones when play is pushed so that side of things seems to
> work for a second or 2.
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.  TIA  & Regards  Bas.
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From cartrite at optusnet.com.au  Sun Mar  2 04:01:21 2014
From: cartrite at optusnet.com.au (Cartrite)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 14:01:21 +1100
Subject: [naktalk] 670Zx
In-Reply-To: <8D099367-385F-41AE-85EA-BC2BE82D0976@comcast.net>
References: <8D099367-385F-41AE-85EA-BC2BE82D0976@comcast.net>
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Hi again Perry.Yeah,bulb looks blown(i'll try & get one during the Week.) & 
couldn't get a reading on Multimeter,can it be replaced insitu or do you 
need to take little board out?Many Thanks & Regards Bas.

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From: Perry Esposito
Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2014 6:17 AM
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] 670Zx

Basil, did you check the bulb/photo diode as I responded on Tapeheads!
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From ribov at developer.bg  Sun Mar  2 12:31:32 2014
From: ribov at developer.bg (Boris Ribov)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 13:31:32 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7
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Hi Carl,



First about the Dolby level - you are right to set the machine for the 387mV 
since the datasheet for the TEA0652 specify it. Gennady mention that NAK 
test tape uses different level and that is true but Nak specify to set the 
deck for the 350mV on its test point instead of 387mV. I think when 
Nakamichi decide to produce their test tapes, they base on DIN standard that 
is about 10% down compared to the ANSI.



For the problem with THD on your chrome tapes I think that the bias setting 
for the chrome tapes is too low. That is why you get high frequency boost 
using Dolby. Also you can do some experiment to put in parallel a RC network 
to the R155/R255 (similar to R172, C122). This will increase the HF on the 
REC AMP for the chrome tapes and will require more bias current, which will 
reduce the THD.



Regards,

Boris Ribov



www.etherfeed.com

www.irdroid.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carl Nyqvist" <carl.nyqvist at gmail.com>
To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 6:56 PM
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7


> Hi!
> My name is Carl, and I am new here.
> I have been calibrating my CR-7 deck, and everything seems to be working 
> fine now exempt for two things:
> I have good THD figures on normal and metal tapes (0,3%-0,4%), but on 
> chrome tapes I get 1,5%. This is when recording and playing back 400Hz 
> tone at 0dB. At playback it seems to be fine so there is something with 
> the recording. I have measured the bias voltage while recording and it is 
> around 20mV. Any ideas what the cause might be?
> Also, when doing a frequency response check recording-playback I get 
> results within specs, but if I engage dolby B or C I get a much higher 
> curve in the higher frequencies, about +2 dB. I did not have a Nakamichi 
> level tape so I used a TEAC dolby level tape and set the voltage to 387mV. 
> Could that be why?
>
> If anyone has any ideas I would very much appreciate some advice.
>
> Carl
>
>
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From scott.h.garner at lmco.com  Sun Mar  2 13:58:15 2014
From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com (Garner, Scott H)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 12:58:15 +0000
Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 670ZX
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References: <4C9D7518EFC3448A88597EBBC1CDBB20@InternetPC>
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Bas,

I believe I know what is wrong with your deck. Look at the mechanism control section of the schematic. On the left hand side you will see the control switch P.C.B. That board feeds the latching circuits. Lets look at the rewind section, Look at IC402, see how the two Nand gates are tied together. The schematic shows them as two OR gates with inverters on both inputs, this is just another way of drawing a Nand gate, the truth table is the same. Anyway once any of the control switches are pressed its corresponding latch circuit is turned on. On IC402 once the rewind switch is pressed pin 9 goes low, this causes pin 10 to go high, causing the unit to into rewind, and to remain high even after the switch is released due to way the two Nand gates are tied together. The only way to get pin 10 to go low is to set pin 13 of IC402 low. This is done by one of 3 ways, pressing the stop, having the Shut-Off P.C.B turn off Q421 thus turning on Q422 pulling the stop line low or by the eject switch closing thus grounding D434. I know the eject switch can not be pressed when the unit is running, it is there so the transport will not run if the door is open. The stop command is common to all mode, play, FF and REW Since you said you worked on the transport this is where I think your problem is, your eject switch is closed. With the unit off, take your meter and measure the resistance between pin 9 of CN9 and ground, I think you will find that it is shorted. If it is not measure the voltage on the anode side of D434, it should be high, if it is near 0 volts Q422 could be shorted. Let me know what you find.

Scott

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Cartrite
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 7:15 PM
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 670ZX

Hi Guys...i’ve been given a 670 thats been in storeage for many years but was supposed to be working when stored.Replaced belts but baulked at idler tire,seems difficult to get out(any tips?).Anyway Play & FF/Rewind works for a few seconds then stops,there is sound thru Headphones when play is pushed so that side of things seems to work for a second or 2.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.  TIA  & Regards  Bas.
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From scott.h.garner at lmco.com  Sun Mar  2 14:48:09 2014
From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com (Garner, Scott H)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 13:48:09 +0000
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [naktalk] 670Zx
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Or maybe your bulb is blown like Perry said.


-----Original Message-----
From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Cartrite
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 10:01 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [naktalk] 670Zx

Hi again Perry.Yeah,bulb looks blown(i'll try & get one during the Week.) & couldn't get a reading on Multimeter,can it be replaced insitu or do you need to take little board out?Many Thanks & Regards Bas.

-----Original Message-----
From: Perry Esposito
Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2014 6:17 AM
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] 670Zx

Basil, did you check the bulb/photo diode as I responded on Tapeheads!
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From scott.h.garner at lmco.com  Sun Mar  2 17:38:10 2014
From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com (Garner, Scott H)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 16:38:10 +0000
Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes
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Check Q406, if it is shorted the reel motor will not run


From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ben Stratford
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 11:35 AM
To: Nak Talk
Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes

Having rebuilt the transport with a new reel motor and refitted, the deck will not energise the reel motor in Play, FF or RW.  I have established that the 15VAC is being rectified to 12VDC.  Fairly obvious as the capstan motor & control motor works fine!  When I press play, the transport moves to the play position and the play lamp illuminates but as the right hand hub is stationary, the deck cuts out.  If I spin the hub manually after pressing play, it stays engaged until I stop spinning the hub - therefore the auto shut off is working ok.
A fried resistor R590 probably happened due to shorting of the counter lamp wires - a new fuse resistor was fitted and the lamp new lamp works fine now as does the new cassette well lamp and all the transport lamps.  I suspect when this happened something else was damaged but I cant find it.  So far I have verified the following parts as either being in specification or have been replaced with new:
Q407 / Q413 / Q424 / Q425 / Q426 / Q427 / Q447
R452 / R453 / R467 / R483 / R484 / R485 / R495 / R499 / R510 / R511 / R512 / R517
C412 / C413 / C417 / C419 / C457
IC405
Reel Motor
My logic was to work from the reel motor back towards the play button and check everything in between with the deck switched off and parts removed to check then refitting them, but It's difficult to identify the pathway.
I feel the next thing to do is establish where the +ve supply to the reel motor should start from - probably CN-7 Pin 2 then follow it to the reel motor to try to find the defective part - this with the deck turned on and measure voltage when repeatedly pressing play.
I know it's a big ask, but could anyone help to identify the parts sequence where to measure?
The deck has very delicate board traces and removing parts and refitting them needs great care not to pull away the trace leading to bad connections - a couple have had to be repaired already.
Many thanks, ben
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From carl.nyqvist at gmail.com  Sun Mar  2 12:43:26 2014
From: carl.nyqvist at gmail.com (Carl Nyqvist)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 12:43:26 +0100
Subject: [naktalk] CR-7
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hi!
Thanks for the info, I read the figure 387mV for dolby level on a forum,
but it should be higher then. I actually have ordered a Nakamichi level
tape from you so I might as well wait for it and do a proper adjustment :)

Carl


2014-03-02 9:57 GMT+01:00 Gennady Lyskin <g.p.lyskin at paradise.net.nz>:

> Hi Carl,
>
> Nak Level cassettes are not Dolby 200 nWb/m cassettes.
> That level is lower than TEAC MMT-150 Dolby level.
> Nak Level cassettes have confusing marking on the label "200 nWb/m", which
> is not correct.
>
> Using  a TEAC MMT-150 Dolby level tape you should set the voltage to 437mV.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gennady Lyskin
>
> G e n n L a b
> http://www.gennlab.com
> info at gennlab.com
> Tel: +64 21 238 3056
> New Zealand
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Nyqvist" <carl.nyqvist at gmail.com>
> To: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" <naktalk at naks.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 5:56 AM
> Subject: [naktalk] CR-7
>
>
>  Hi!
>> My name is Carl, and I am new here.
>> I have been calibrating my CR-7 deck, and everything seems to be working
>> fine now exempt for two things:
>> I have good THD figures on normal and metal tapes (0,3%-0,4%), but on
>> chrome tapes I get 1,5%. This is when recording and playing back 400Hz tone
>> at 0dB. At playback it seems to be fine so there is something with the
>> recording. I have measured the bias voltage while recording and it is
>> around 20mV. Any ideas what the cause might be?
>> Also, when doing a frequency response check recording-playback I get
>> results within specs, but if I engage dolby B or C I get a much higher
>> curve in the higher frequencies, about +2 dB. I did not have a Nakamichi
>> level tape so I used a TEAC dolby level tape and set the voltage to 387mV.
>> Could that be why?
>>
>> If anyone has any ideas I would very much appreciate some advice.
>>
>> Carl
>>
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From cartrite at optusnet.com.au  Sun Mar  2 23:02:16 2014
From: cartrite at optusnet.com.au (Cartrite)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 09:02:16 +1100
Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 670ZX
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Hi Scott...thanks for all the Info. and taking the time to post,i’ll replace the bulb and check the eject switch and see what happens.AtB Bas.



rom: Garner, Scott H 
Sent: Sunday, March 2, 2014 11:58 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks 
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 670ZX

Bas,

 

I believe I know what is wrong with your deck. Look at the mechanism control section of the schematic. On the left hand side you will see the control switch P.C.B. That board feeds the latching circuits. Lets look at the rewind section, Look at IC402, see how the two Nand gates are tied together. The schematic shows them as two OR gates with inverters on both inputs, this is just another way of drawing a Nand gate, the truth table is the same. Anyway once any of the control switches are pressed its corresponding latch circuit is turned on. On IC402 once the rewind switch is pressed pin 9 goes low, this causes pin 10 to go high, causing the unit to into rewind, and to remain high even after the switch is released due to way the two Nand gates are tied together. The only way to get pin 10 to go low is to set pin 13 of IC402 low. This is done by one of 3 ways, pressing the stop, having the Shut-Off P.C.B turn off Q421 thus turning on Q422 pulling the stop line low or by the eject switch closing thus grounding D434. I know the eject switch can not be pressed when the unit is running, it is there so the transport will not run if the door is open. The stop command is common to all mode, play, FF and REW Since you said you worked on the transport this is where I think your problem is, your eject switch is closed. With the unit off, take your meter and measure the resistance between pin 9 of CN9 and ground, I think you will find that it is shorted. If it is not measure the voltage on the anode side of D434, it should be high, if it is near 0 volts Q422 could be shorted. Let me know what you find.

 

Scott

 

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Cartrite
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 7:15 PM
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 670ZX

 

Hi Guys...i’ve been given a 670 thats been in storeage for many years but was supposed to be working when stored.Replaced belts but baulked at idler tire,seems difficult to get out(any tips?).Anyway Play & FF/Rewind works for a few seconds then stops,there is sound thru Headphones when play is pushed so that side of things seems to work for a second or 2.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.  TIA  & Regards  Bas.



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From bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk  Mon Mar  3 08:07:15 2014
From: bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk (Ben Stratford)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 07:07:15 +0000
Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes
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Many thanks Scott I will check it out. Cheers ben

> On 2 Mar 2014, at 17:19, "Garner, Scott H" <scott.h.garner at lmco.com> wrote:
> 
> Check Q406, if it is shorted the reel motor will not run
>  
>  
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ben Stratford
> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 11:35 AM
> To: Nak Talk
> Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes
>  
> Having rebuilt the transport with a new reel motor and refitted, the deck will not energise the reel motor in Play, FF or RW.  I have established that the 15VAC is being rectified to 12VDC.  Fairly obvious as the capstan motor & control motor works fine!  When I press play, the transport moves to the play position and the play lamp illuminates but as the right hand hub is stationary, the deck cuts out.  If I spin the hub manually after pressing play, it stays engaged until I stop spinning the hub - therefore the auto shut off is working ok.
> A fried resistor R590 probably happened due to shorting of the counter lamp wires - a new fuse resistor was fitted and the lamp new lamp works fine now as does the new cassette well lamp and all the transport lamps.  I suspect when this happened something else was damaged but I cant find it.  So far I have verified the following parts as either being in specification or have been replaced with new:
> Q407 / Q413 / Q424 / Q425 / Q426 / Q427 / Q447
> R452 / R453 / R467 / R483 / R484 / R485 / R495 / R499 / R510 / R511 / R512 / R517
> C412 / C413 / C417 / C419 / C457
> IC405
> Reel Motor
> My logic was to work from the reel motor back towards the play button and check everything in between with the deck switched off and parts removed to check then refitting them, but It's difficult to identify the pathway.
> I feel the next thing to do is establish where the +ve supply to the reel motor should start from - probably CN-7 Pin 2 then follow it to the reel motor to try to find the defective part - this with the deck turned on and measure voltage when repeatedly pressing play.
> I know it's a big ask, but could anyone help to identify the parts sequence where to measure?
> The deck has very delicate board traces and removing parts and refitting them needs great care not to pull away the trace leading to bad connections - a couple have had to be repaired already.
> Many thanks, ben
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From bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk  Mon Mar  3 11:29:33 2014
From: bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk (Ben Stratford)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 10:29:33 +0000
Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes
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Q406 checks out ok on the diode check function of my meter Scott. 
I changed it for a substitute just to be certain. 

> On 3 Mar 2014, at 07:47, "Ben Stratford" <bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Many thanks Scott I will check it out. Cheers ben
> 
>> On 2 Mar 2014, at 17:19, "Garner, Scott H" <scott.h.garner at lmco.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Check Q406, if it is shorted the reel motor will not run
>>  
>>  
>> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ben Stratford
>> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 11:35 AM
>> To: Nak Talk
>> Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes
>>  
>> Having rebuilt the transport with a new reel motor and refitted, the deck will not energise the reel motor in Play, FF or RW.  I have established that the 15VAC is being rectified to 12VDC.  Fairly obvious as the capstan motor & control motor works fine!  When I press play, the transport moves to the play position and the play lamp illuminates but as the right hand hub is stationary, the deck cuts out.  If I spin the hub manually after pressing play, it stays engaged until I stop spinning the hub - therefore the auto shut off is working ok.
>> A fried resistor R590 probably happened due to shorting of the counter lamp wires - a new fuse resistor was fitted and the lamp new lamp works fine now as does the new cassette well lamp and all the transport lamps.  I suspect when this happened something else was damaged but I cant find it.  So far I have verified the following parts as either being in specification or have been replaced with new:
>> Q407 / Q413 / Q424 / Q425 / Q426 / Q427 / Q447
>> R452 / R453 / R467 / R483 / R484 / R485 / R495 / R499 / R510 / R511 / R512 / R517
>> C412 / C413 / C417 / C419 / C457
>> IC405
>> Reel Motor
>> My logic was to work from the reel motor back towards the play button and check everything in between with the deck switched off and parts removed to check then refitting them, but It's difficult to identify the pathway.
>> I feel the next thing to do is establish where the +ve supply to the reel motor should start from - probably CN-7 Pin 2 then follow it to the reel motor to try to find the defective part - this with the deck turned on and measure voltage when repeatedly pressing play.
>> I know it's a big ask, but could anyone help to identify the parts sequence where to measure?
>> The deck has very delicate board traces and removing parts and refitting them needs great care not to pull away the trace leading to bad connections - a couple have had to be repaired already.
>> Many thanks, ben
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From echo at techno-link.com  Mon Mar  3 15:56:34 2014
From: echo at techno-link.com (VLADO ANGELOV)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 16:56:34 +0200
Subject: [naktalk] ZX 7/9 Knob
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Dear All, 

 

Could you please hint a way to get a spare record/output level knob for my
ZX 7 deck being under restoration at present. In case anyone interested I
can supply a face plate print layout CDR file. 

Many Thanks! Vlado

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From scott.h.garner at lmco.com  Mon Mar  3 19:20:10 2014
From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com (Garner, Scott H)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 18:20:10 +0000
Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes
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Ben,
Command the unit to FF and measure Pin 11, 12 and 13 of IC404. Also measure Pin1 and 3 of IC403. Due this before the auto shutoff takes place. Send me the results.
Scott

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ben Stratford
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 5:30 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes

Q406 checks out ok on the diode check function of my meter Scott.
I changed it for a substitute just to be certain.

On 3 Mar 2014, at 07:47, "Ben Stratford" <bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk<mailto:bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk>> wrote:
Many thanks Scott I will check it out. Cheers ben

On 2 Mar 2014, at 17:19, "Garner, Scott H" <scott.h.garner at lmco.com<mailto:scott.h.garner at lmco.com>> wrote:
Check Q406, if it is shorted the reel motor will not run


From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ben Stratford
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 11:35 AM
To: Nak Talk
Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes

Having rebuilt the transport with a new reel motor and refitted, the deck will not energise the reel motor in Play, FF or RW.  I have established that the 15VAC is being rectified to 12VDC.  Fairly obvious as the capstan motor & control motor works fine!  When I press play, the transport moves to the play position and the play lamp illuminates but as the right hand hub is stationary, the deck cuts out.  If I spin the hub manually after pressing play, it stays engaged until I stop spinning the hub - therefore the auto shut off is working ok.
A fried resistor R590 probably happened due to shorting of the counter lamp wires - a new fuse resistor was fitted and the lamp new lamp works fine now as does the new cassette well lamp and all the transport lamps.  I suspect when this happened something else was damaged but I cant find it.  So far I have verified the following parts as either being in specification or have been replaced with new:
Q407 / Q413 / Q424 / Q425 / Q426 / Q427 / Q447
R452 / R453 / R467 / R483 / R484 / R485 / R495 / R499 / R510 / R511 / R512 / R517
C412 / C413 / C417 / C419 / C457
IC405
Reel Motor
My logic was to work from the reel motor back towards the play button and check everything in between with the deck switched off and parts removed to check then refitting them, but It's difficult to identify the pathway.
I feel the next thing to do is establish where the +ve supply to the reel motor should start from - probably CN-7 Pin 2 then follow it to the reel motor to try to find the defective part - this with the deck turned on and measure voltage when repeatedly pressing play.
I know it's a big ask, but could anyone help to identify the parts sequence where to measure?
The deck has very delicate board traces and removing parts and refitting them needs great care not to pull away the trace leading to bad connections - a couple have had to be repaired already.
Many thanks, ben
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From perry.nak at comcast.net  Mon Mar  3 18:07:55 2014
From: perry.nak at comcast.net (Perry Esposito)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 12:07:55 -0500
Subject: [naktalk] 670zx
Message-ID: <DE907515-6BB9-4918-8873-A9667DC735DA@comcast.net>

Yes the bulb can be replaced in place if you are careful with the surrounding wires. Just need to pry it from the glue after you desolder it.

Sent from Perry Esposito via iPhone


From scott.h.garner at lmco.com  Mon Mar  3 21:19:16 2014
From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com (Garner, Scott H)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 20:19:16 +0000
Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes
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Does the reel motor spin for a second when you close the cassette door?

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ben Stratford
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 5:30 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes

Q406 checks out ok on the diode check function of my meter Scott.
I changed it for a substitute just to be certain.

On 3 Mar 2014, at 07:47, "Ben Stratford" <bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk<mailto:bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk>> wrote:
Many thanks Scott I will check it out. Cheers ben

On 2 Mar 2014, at 17:19, "Garner, Scott H" <scott.h.garner at lmco.com<mailto:scott.h.garner at lmco.com>> wrote:
Check Q406, if it is shorted the reel motor will not run


From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ben Stratford
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 11:35 AM
To: Nak Talk
Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes

Having rebuilt the transport with a new reel motor and refitted, the deck will not energise the reel motor in Play, FF or RW.  I have established that the 15VAC is being rectified to 12VDC.  Fairly obvious as the capstan motor & control motor works fine!  When I press play, the transport moves to the play position and the play lamp illuminates but as the right hand hub is stationary, the deck cuts out.  If I spin the hub manually after pressing play, it stays engaged until I stop spinning the hub - therefore the auto shut off is working ok.
A fried resistor R590 probably happened due to shorting of the counter lamp wires - a new fuse resistor was fitted and the lamp new lamp works fine now as does the new cassette well lamp and all the transport lamps.  I suspect when this happened something else was damaged but I cant find it.  So far I have verified the following parts as either being in specification or have been replaced with new:
Q407 / Q413 / Q424 / Q425 / Q426 / Q427 / Q447
R452 / R453 / R467 / R483 / R484 / R485 / R495 / R499 / R510 / R511 / R512 / R517
C412 / C413 / C417 / C419 / C457
IC405
Reel Motor
My logic was to work from the reel motor back towards the play button and check everything in between with the deck switched off and parts removed to check then refitting them, but It's difficult to identify the pathway.
I feel the next thing to do is establish where the +ve supply to the reel motor should start from - probably CN-7 Pin 2 then follow it to the reel motor to try to find the defective part - this with the deck turned on and measure voltage when repeatedly pressing play.
I know it's a big ask, but could anyone help to identify the parts sequence where to measure?
The deck has very delicate board traces and removing parts and refitting them needs great care not to pull away the trace leading to bad connections - a couple have had to be repaired already.
Many thanks, ben
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From bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk  Mon Mar  3 22:12:26 2014
From: bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk (Ben Stratford)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 21:12:26 +0000
Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes
In-Reply-To: <A8BA33D5C3959E45BDC166ED2FED44680BDF6277@HVXDSP21.us.lmco.com>
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No it does not so anti slack mech not working Scott

> On 3 Mar 2014, at 21:01, "Garner, Scott H" <scott.h.garner at lmco.com> wrote:
> 
> Does the reel motor spin for a second when you close the cassette door?
>  
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ben Stratford
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 5:30 AM
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes
>  
> Q406 checks out ok on the diode check function of my meter Scott. 
> I changed it for a substitute just to be certain. 
> 
> On 3 Mar 2014, at 07:47, "Ben Stratford" <bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Many thanks Scott I will check it out. Cheers ben
> 
> On 2 Mar 2014, at 17:19, "Garner, Scott H" <scott.h.garner at lmco.com> wrote:
> 
> Check Q406, if it is shorted the reel motor will not run
>  
>  
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ben Stratford
> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 11:35 AM
> To: Nak Talk
> Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes
>  
> Having rebuilt the transport with a new reel motor and refitted, the deck will not energise the reel motor in Play, FF or RW.  I have established that the 15VAC is being rectified to 12VDC.  Fairly obvious as the capstan motor & control motor works fine!  When I press play, the transport moves to the play position and the play lamp illuminates but as the right hand hub is stationary, the deck cuts out.  If I spin the hub manually after pressing play, it stays engaged until I stop spinning the hub - therefore the auto shut off is working ok.
> A fried resistor R590 probably happened due to shorting of the counter lamp wires - a new fuse resistor was fitted and the lamp new lamp works fine now as does the new cassette well lamp and all the transport lamps.  I suspect when this happened something else was damaged but I cant find it.  So far I have verified the following parts as either being in specification or have been replaced with new:
> Q407 / Q413 / Q424 / Q425 / Q426 / Q427 / Q447
> R452 / R453 / R467 / R483 / R484 / R485 / R495 / R499 / R510 / R511 / R512 / R517
> C412 / C413 / C417 / C419 / C457
> IC405
> Reel Motor
> My logic was to work from the reel motor back towards the play button and check everything in between with the deck switched off and parts removed to check then refitting them, but It's difficult to identify the pathway.
> I feel the next thing to do is establish where the +ve supply to the reel motor should start from - probably CN-7 Pin 2 then follow it to the reel motor to try to find the defective part - this with the deck turned on and measure voltage when repeatedly pressing play.
> I know it's a big ask, but could anyone help to identify the parts sequence where to measure?
> The deck has very delicate board traces and removing parts and refitting them needs great care not to pull away the trace leading to bad connections - a couple have had to be repaired already.
> Many thanks, ben
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From bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk  Mon Mar  3 22:12:48 2014
From: bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk (Ben Stratford)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 21:12:48 +0000
Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes
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Will do Scott, thanks again

> On 3 Mar 2014, at 19:00, "Garner, Scott H" <scott.h.garner at lmco.com> wrote:
> 
> Ben,
> Command the unit to FF and measure Pin 11, 12 and 13 of IC404. Also measure Pin1 and 3 of IC403. Due this before the auto shutoff takes place. Send me the results.
> Scott
>  
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ben Stratford
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 5:30 AM
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes
>  
> Q406 checks out ok on the diode check function of my meter Scott. 
> I changed it for a substitute just to be certain. 
> 
> On 3 Mar 2014, at 07:47, "Ben Stratford" <bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Many thanks Scott I will check it out. Cheers ben
> 
> On 2 Mar 2014, at 17:19, "Garner, Scott H" <scott.h.garner at lmco.com> wrote:
> 
> Check Q406, if it is shorted the reel motor will not run
>  
>  
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ben Stratford
> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 11:35 AM
> To: Nak Talk
> Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes
>  
> Having rebuilt the transport with a new reel motor and refitted, the deck will not energise the reel motor in Play, FF or RW.  I have established that the 15VAC is being rectified to 12VDC.  Fairly obvious as the capstan motor & control motor works fine!  When I press play, the transport moves to the play position and the play lamp illuminates but as the right hand hub is stationary, the deck cuts out.  If I spin the hub manually after pressing play, it stays engaged until I stop spinning the hub - therefore the auto shut off is working ok.
> A fried resistor R590 probably happened due to shorting of the counter lamp wires - a new fuse resistor was fitted and the lamp new lamp works fine now as does the new cassette well lamp and all the transport lamps.  I suspect when this happened something else was damaged but I cant find it.  So far I have verified the following parts as either being in specification or have been replaced with new:
> Q407 / Q413 / Q424 / Q425 / Q426 / Q427 / Q447
> R452 / R453 / R467 / R483 / R484 / R485 / R495 / R499 / R510 / R511 / R512 / R517
> C412 / C413 / C417 / C419 / C457
> IC405
> Reel Motor
> My logic was to work from the reel motor back towards the play button and check everything in between with the deck switched off and parts removed to check then refitting them, but It's difficult to identify the pathway.
> I feel the next thing to do is establish where the +ve supply to the reel motor should start from - probably CN-7 Pin 2 then follow it to the reel motor to try to find the defective part - this with the deck turned on and measure voltage when repeatedly pressing play.
> I know it's a big ask, but could anyone help to identify the parts sequence where to measure?
> The deck has very delicate board traces and removing parts and refitting them needs great care not to pull away the trace leading to bad connections - a couple have had to be repaired already.
> Many thanks, ben
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From cartrite at optusnet.com.au  Mon Mar  3 22:33:37 2014
From: cartrite at optusnet.com.au (Cartrite)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 08:33:37 +1100
Subject: [naktalk] 670zx
In-Reply-To: <DE907515-6BB9-4918-8873-A9667DC735DA@comcast.net>
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Thanks Perry,i'll let you know how it goes when new bulb turns up.Bas.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Perry Esposito
Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2014 4:07 AM
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] 670zx

Yes the bulb can be replaced in place if you are careful with the 
surrounding wires. Just need to pry it from the glue after you desolder it.

Sent from Perry Esposito via iPhone
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From paul.kellerman at sbcglobal.net  Tue Mar  4 06:10:19 2014
From: paul.kellerman at sbcglobal.net (Paul Kellerman)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 21:10:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] Updating opamps
Message-ID: <1393909819.34987.YahooMailNeo@web181604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Recent swaped out some NMJ 4558DD's in DR10/DR2. Burr Bown OPA2134 in Record EQ went up in a blaze of glory, while performing nicely at input buffer. Using AD OPA 275 at record eq working fine, but is there a better choice than OPA 275's for Record EQ? I found that S.S. recomended mods have made improvement in R/P performance, and plugging in another Opamp here might give better result, anyone out there have sugestion?
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From scott.h.garner at lmco.com  Tue Mar  4 18:54:59 2014
From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com (Garner, Scott H)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 17:54:59 +0000
Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes
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Ben,
Are you sure that the new reel motor you installed is good. You said you checked or replaced IC405, Q426 and Q427 and R512. The FF signal for IC405 comes from IC401 and the Rew signal come from IC402. The play signal comes from IC 402  thru Q420. You have already check/replaced the parts that are common to all modes. The anti slack circuit is basically a direct shot into IC405 via the grounding of C416 and then the recharging of it. Try lifting R495 and recheck the anti slack. Let me know what happens.
Scott

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ben Stratford
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 4:12 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes

No it does not so anti slack mech not working Scott

On 3 Mar 2014, at 21:01, "Garner, Scott H" <scott.h.garner at lmco.com<mailto:scott.h.garner at lmco.com>> wrote:
Does the reel motor spin for a second when you close the cassette door?

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ben Stratford
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 5:30 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes

Q406 checks out ok on the diode check function of my meter Scott.
I changed it for a substitute just to be certain.

On 3 Mar 2014, at 07:47, "Ben Stratford" <bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk<mailto:bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk>> wrote:
Many thanks Scott I will check it out. Cheers ben

On 2 Mar 2014, at 17:19, "Garner, Scott H" <scott.h.garner at lmco.com<mailto:scott.h.garner at lmco.com>> wrote:
Check Q406, if it is shorted the reel motor will not run


From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ben Stratford
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 11:35 AM
To: Nak Talk
Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes

Having rebuilt the transport with a new reel motor and refitted, the deck will not energise the reel motor in Play, FF or RW.  I have established that the 15VAC is being rectified to 12VDC.  Fairly obvious as the capstan motor & control motor works fine!  When I press play, the transport moves to the play position and the play lamp illuminates but as the right hand hub is stationary, the deck cuts out.  If I spin the hub manually after pressing play, it stays engaged until I stop spinning the hub - therefore the auto shut off is working ok.
A fried resistor R590 probably happened due to shorting of the counter lamp wires - a new fuse resistor was fitted and the lamp new lamp works fine now as does the new cassette well lamp and all the transport lamps.  I suspect when this happened something else was damaged but I cant find it.  So far I have verified the following parts as either being in specification or have been replaced with new:
Q407 / Q413 / Q424 / Q425 / Q426 / Q427 / Q447
R452 / R453 / R467 / R483 / R484 / R485 / R495 / R499 / R510 / R511 / R512 / R517
C412 / C413 / C417 / C419 / C457
IC405
Reel Motor
My logic was to work from the reel motor back towards the play button and check everything in between with the deck switched off and parts removed to check then refitting them, but It's difficult to identify the pathway.
I feel the next thing to do is establish where the +ve supply to the reel motor should start from - probably CN-7 Pin 2 then follow it to the reel motor to try to find the defective part - this with the deck turned on and measure voltage when repeatedly pressing play.
I know it's a big ask, but could anyone help to identify the parts sequence where to measure?
The deck has very delicate board traces and removing parts and refitting them needs great care not to pull away the trace leading to bad connections - a couple have had to be repaired already.
Many thanks, ben
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From scott.h.garner at lmco.com  Tue Mar  4 21:15:50 2014
From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com (Garner, Scott H)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 20:15:50 +0000
Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes
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Ben,
If you remove Q422 this will disable the auto shutoff, it will also disable the power mute so when you turn the unit on you will have to press the stop button to complete the power mute sequence. After that you can place the unit in any mode and make some measurements. Measure Pins 2 and 3 of IC405 in all three modes. Let me know the results.
Scott

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Garner, Scott H
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 12:55 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes

Ben,
Are you sure that the new reel motor you installed is good. You said you checked or replaced IC405, Q426 and Q427 and R512. The FF signal for IC405 comes from IC401 and the Rew signal come from IC402. The play signal comes from IC 402  thru Q420. You have already check/replaced the parts that are common to all modes. The anti slack circuit is basically a direct shot into IC405 via the grounding of C416 and then the recharging of it. Try lifting R495 and recheck the anti slack. Let me know what happens.
Scott

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ben Stratford
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 4:12 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes

No it does not so anti slack mech not working Scott

On 3 Mar 2014, at 21:01, "Garner, Scott H" <scott.h.garner at lmco.com<mailto:scott.h.garner at lmco.com>> wrote:
Does the reel motor spin for a second when you close the cassette door?

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ben Stratford
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 5:30 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes

Q406 checks out ok on the diode check function of my meter Scott.
I changed it for a substitute just to be certain.

On 3 Mar 2014, at 07:47, "Ben Stratford" <bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk<mailto:bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk>> wrote:
Many thanks Scott I will check it out. Cheers ben

On 2 Mar 2014, at 17:19, "Garner, Scott H" <scott.h.garner at lmco.com<mailto:scott.h.garner at lmco.com>> wrote:
Check Q406, if it is shorted the reel motor will not run


From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ben Stratford
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 11:35 AM
To: Nak Talk
Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes

Having rebuilt the transport with a new reel motor and refitted, the deck will not energise the reel motor in Play, FF or RW.  I have established that the 15VAC is being rectified to 12VDC.  Fairly obvious as the capstan motor & control motor works fine!  When I press play, the transport moves to the play position and the play lamp illuminates but as the right hand hub is stationary, the deck cuts out.  If I spin the hub manually after pressing play, it stays engaged until I stop spinning the hub - therefore the auto shut off is working ok.
A fried resistor R590 probably happened due to shorting of the counter lamp wires - a new fuse resistor was fitted and the lamp new lamp works fine now as does the new cassette well lamp and all the transport lamps.  I suspect when this happened something else was damaged but I cant find it.  So far I have verified the following parts as either being in specification or have been replaced with new:
Q407 / Q413 / Q424 / Q425 / Q426 / Q427 / Q447
R452 / R453 / R467 / R483 / R484 / R485 / R495 / R499 / R510 / R511 / R512 / R517
C412 / C413 / C417 / C419 / C457
IC405
Reel Motor
My logic was to work from the reel motor back towards the play button and check everything in between with the deck switched off and parts removed to check then refitting them, but It's difficult to identify the pathway.
I feel the next thing to do is establish where the +ve supply to the reel motor should start from - probably CN-7 Pin 2 then follow it to the reel motor to try to find the defective part - this with the deck turned on and measure voltage when repeatedly pressing play.
I know it's a big ask, but could anyone help to identify the parts sequence where to measure?
The deck has very delicate board traces and removing parts and refitting them needs great care not to pull away the trace leading to bad connections - a couple have had to be repaired already.
Many thanks, ben
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From bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk  Tue Mar  4 22:50:18 2014
From: bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk (Ben Stratford)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 21:50:18 +0000
Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes
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Brilliant, thanks Scott. I will let you know asap. Cheers ben

> On 4 Mar 2014, at 20:57, "Garner, Scott H" <scott.h.garner at lmco.com> wrote:
> 
> Ben,
> If you remove Q422 this will disable the auto shutoff, it will also disable the power mute so when you turn the unit on you will have to press the stop button to complete the power mute sequence. After that you can place the unit in any mode and make some measurements. Measure Pins 2 and 3 of IC405 in all three modes. Let me know the results.
> Scott
>  
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Garner, Scott H
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 12:55 PM
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes
>  
> Ben,
> Are you sure that the new reel motor you installed is good. You said you checked or replaced IC405, Q426 and Q427 and R512. The FF signal for IC405 comes from IC401 and the Rew signal come from IC402. The play signal comes from IC 402  thru Q420. You have already check/replaced the parts that are common to all modes. The anti slack circuit is basically a direct shot into IC405 via the grounding of C416 and then the recharging of it. Try lifting R495 and recheck the anti slack. Let me know what happens.
> Scott
>  
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ben Stratford
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 4:12 PM
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes
>  
> No it does not so anti slack mech not working Scott
> 
> On 3 Mar 2014, at 21:01, "Garner, Scott H" <scott.h.garner at lmco.com> wrote:
> 
> Does the reel motor spin for a second when you close the cassette door?
>  
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ben Stratford
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 5:30 AM
> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
> Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes
>  
> Q406 checks out ok on the diode check function of my meter Scott. 
> I changed it for a substitute just to be certain. 
> 
> On 3 Mar 2014, at 07:47, "Ben Stratford" <bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Many thanks Scott I will check it out. Cheers ben
> 
> On 2 Mar 2014, at 17:19, "Garner, Scott H" <scott.h.garner at lmco.com> wrote:
> 
> Check Q406, if it is shorted the reel motor will not run
>  
>  
> From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ben Stratford
> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 11:35 AM
> To: Nak Talk
> Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes
>  
> Having rebuilt the transport with a new reel motor and refitted, the deck will not energise the reel motor in Play, FF or RW.  I have established that the 15VAC is being rectified to 12VDC.  Fairly obvious as the capstan motor & control motor works fine!  When I press play, the transport moves to the play position and the play lamp illuminates but as the right hand hub is stationary, the deck cuts out.  If I spin the hub manually after pressing play, it stays engaged until I stop spinning the hub - therefore the auto shut off is working ok.
> A fried resistor R590 probably happened due to shorting of the counter lamp wires - a new fuse resistor was fitted and the lamp new lamp works fine now as does the new cassette well lamp and all the transport lamps.  I suspect when this happened something else was damaged but I cant find it.  So far I have verified the following parts as either being in specification or have been replaced with new:
> Q407 / Q413 / Q424 / Q425 / Q426 / Q427 / Q447
> R452 / R453 / R467 / R483 / R484 / R485 / R495 / R499 / R510 / R511 / R512 / R517
> C412 / C413 / C417 / C419 / C457
> IC405
> Reel Motor
> My logic was to work from the reel motor back towards the play button and check everything in between with the deck switched off and parts removed to check then refitting them, but It's difficult to identify the pathway.
> I feel the next thing to do is establish where the +ve supply to the reel motor should start from - probably CN-7 Pin 2 then follow it to the reel motor to try to find the defective part - this with the deck turned on and measure voltage when repeatedly pressing play.
> I know it's a big ask, but could anyone help to identify the parts sequence where to measure?
> The deck has very delicate board traces and removing parts and refitting them needs great care not to pull away the trace leading to bad connections - a couple have had to be repaired already.
> Many thanks, ben
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From cartrite at optusnet.com.au  Tue Mar  4 23:59:43 2014
From: cartrite at optusnet.com.au (Cartrite)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 09:59:43 +1100
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [naktalk] 670Zx
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Hi Scott,yeah,blown bulb,thanks for making the effort to reply..Bas.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Garner, Scott H
Sent: Monday, March 3, 2014 12:48 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [naktalk] 670Zx

Or maybe your bulb is blown like Perry said.


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Of Cartrite
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 10:01 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [naktalk] 670Zx

Hi again Perry.Yeah,bulb looks blown(i'll try & get one during the Week.) & 
couldn't get a reading on Multimeter,can it be replaced insitu or do you 
need to take little board out?Many Thanks & Regards Bas.

-----Original Message-----
From: Perry Esposito
Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2014 6:17 AM
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] 670Zx

Basil, did you check the bulb/photo diode as I responded on Tapeheads!
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From cartrite at optusnet.com.au  Wed Mar  5 00:03:19 2014
From: cartrite at optusnet.com.au (Cartrite)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 10:03:19 +1100
Subject: [naktalk] 670zx
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Perry,many,many Thanks,it was the bulb,i can't believe its going after 20 
years!!!,i posted as well on Tapeheads in case anyone else has the same 
problem.Bas.

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From: Perry Esposito
Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2014 4:07 AM
To: naktalk at naks.com
Subject: [naktalk] 670zx

Yes the bulb can be replaced in place if you are careful with the 
surrounding wires. Just need to pry it from the glue after you desolder it.

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From cartrite at optusnet.com.au  Wed Mar  5 00:08:58 2014
From: cartrite at optusnet.com.au (Cartrite)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 10:08:58 +1100
Subject: [naktalk] Rack Ears......670ZX
Message-ID: <D16661ED54454255BE3E643DA102DBAC@InternetPC>

Hi guys,another big thanks to anyone that replied,its going great,just wondering if anyone has a set of ......Rack Ears  to suit a 670 laying around and they wish to sell.
Only problem is i’m in Australia so Shipping/Post may be a problem AtB Bas.
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From drucyphr at gmail.com  Wed Mar  5 01:53:59 2014
From: drucyphr at gmail.com (drucyphr)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 18:53:59 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] MR1 transport issues
Message-ID: <CAB50Kq4bO3cn7mkpvBKf373FR1qjfnPGdqJ_Frvq2kmtT5=0oQ@mail.gmail.com>

I'm trying to diagnose a problem that recently showed up on a MR1.
Everything was fine before this problem. The transport is clean and the
deck has a gear idler.

When a tape is played, the deck would try to play then stop immediately.
Same with FF and Rew. Similar to a idler tire issue or stuck motors. I
sprayed the control and reel motors with a little deoxit and the controls
came back to life for a bit.

I ran the motor for a while on FF and Rew and then let the deck sit in Play
mode. After a while the tape stopped again.

Second inspection, I noticed a small amount of yellow grease on the cam
where it sits on the control motor ass'y with Mode Switch in Stop. I'm not
sure if this is a cause for concern, but I snapped a picture of the spot of
grease after it rotates upwards while in Play mode. The rest of the Cam is
clean.

Can this grease be an issue? The image can be seen here,
http://i.imgur.com/U8u6qqc.jpg

Thank you.
-Andrew
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From davidt124 at internode.on.net  Wed Mar  5 11:44:55 2014
From: davidt124 at internode.on.net (David Thompson)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2014 20:44:55 +1000
Subject: [naktalk] Rack Ears......670ZX
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I made up a couple of ears from a piece of black aluminium angle, drilled
holes for the screws and painted the cut edges black. It looked quite
presentable.

From:  Cartrite <cartrite at optusnet.com.au>
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Subject:  [naktalk] Rack Ears......670ZX

Hi guys,another big thanks to anyone that replied,its going great,just
wondering if anyone has a set of ......Rack Ears  to suit a 670 laying
around and they wish to sell.
Only problem is i¹m in Australia so Shipping/Post may be a problem AtB Bas.
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From scott.h.garner at lmco.com  Wed Mar  5 12:28:53 2014
From: scott.h.garner at lmco.com (Garner, Scott H)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 11:28:53 +0000
Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes
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Ben,
Even better just remove R505, does the same thing but the power mute will still work.
Scott

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ben Stratford
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 4:50 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes

Brilliant, thanks Scott. I will let you know asap. Cheers ben

On 4 Mar 2014, at 20:57, "Garner, Scott H" <scott.h.garner at lmco.com<mailto:scott.h.garner at lmco.com>> wrote:
Ben,
If you remove Q422 this will disable the auto shutoff, it will also disable the power mute so when you turn the unit on you will have to press the stop button to complete the power mute sequence. After that you can place the unit in any mode and make some measurements. Measure Pins 2 and 3 of IC405 in all three modes. Let me know the results.
Scott

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Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 12:55 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes

Ben,
Are you sure that the new reel motor you installed is good. You said you checked or replaced IC405, Q426 and Q427 and R512. The FF signal for IC405 comes from IC401 and the Rew signal come from IC402. The play signal comes from IC 402  thru Q420. You have already check/replaced the parts that are common to all modes. The anti slack circuit is basically a direct shot into IC405 via the grounding of C416 and then the recharging of it. Try lifting R495 and recheck the anti slack. Let me know what happens.
Scott

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ben Stratford
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 4:12 PM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes

No it does not so anti slack mech not working Scott

On 3 Mar 2014, at 21:01, "Garner, Scott H" <scott.h.garner at lmco.com<mailto:scott.h.garner at lmco.com>> wrote:
Does the reel motor spin for a second when you close the cassette door?

From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ben Stratford
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 5:30 AM
To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes

Q406 checks out ok on the diode check function of my meter Scott.
I changed it for a substitute just to be certain.

On 3 Mar 2014, at 07:47, "Ben Stratford" <bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk<mailto:bobbenwailer at hotmail.co.uk>> wrote:
Many thanks Scott I will check it out. Cheers ben

On 2 Mar 2014, at 17:19, "Garner, Scott H" <scott.h.garner at lmco.com<mailto:scott.h.garner at lmco.com>> wrote:
Check Q406, if it is shorted the reel motor will not run


From: naktalk-bounces at naks.com<mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com> [mailto:naktalk-bounces at naks.com] On Behalf Of Ben Stratford
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 11:35 AM
To: Nak Talk
Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Woes

Having rebuilt the transport with a new reel motor and refitted, the deck will not energise the reel motor in Play, FF or RW.  I have established that the 15VAC is being rectified to 12VDC.  Fairly obvious as the capstan motor & control motor works fine!  When I press play, the transport moves to the play position and the play lamp illuminates but as the right hand hub is stationary, the deck cuts out.  If I spin the hub manually after pressing play, it stays engaged until I stop spinning the hub - therefore the auto shut off is working ok.
A fried resistor R590 probably happened due to shorting of the counter lamp wires - a new fuse resistor was fitted and the lamp new lamp works fine now as does the new cassette well lamp and all the transport lamps.  I suspect when this happened something else was damaged but I cant find it.  So far I have verified the following parts as either being in specification or have been replaced with new:
Q407 / Q413 / Q424 / Q425 / Q426 / Q427 / Q447
R452 / R453 / R467 / R483 / R484 / R485 / R495 / R499 / R510 / R511 / R512 / R517
C412 / C413 / C417 / C419 / C457
IC405
Reel Motor
My logic was to work from the reel motor back towards the play button and check everything in between with the deck switched off and parts removed to check then refitting them, but It's difficult to identify the pathway.
I feel the next thing to do is establish where the +ve supply to the reel motor should start from - probably CN-7 Pin 2 then follow it to the reel motor to try to find the defective part - this with the deck turned on and measure voltage when repeatedly pressing play.
I know it's a big ask, but could anyone help to identify the parts sequence where to measure?
The deck has very delicate board traces and removing parts and refitting them needs great care not to pull away the trace leading to bad connections - a couple have had to be repaired already.
Many thanks, ben
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From tborzic at yahoo.com  Wed Mar  5 15:04:09 2014
From: tborzic at yahoo.com (Tomislav Borzic)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 06:04:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] OMS-1 use(r) manual
Message-ID: <1394028249.63244.YahooMailNeo@web125602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Dear All,

I just acquired OMS-1 cd player, and would like to have owners manual. Anybody have a (scanned) copy? On web I found only service manual.

Thanks,
T.
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From ronami at yahoo.com  Wed Mar  5 16:19:58 2014
From: ronami at yahoo.com (Ron)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 07:19:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [naktalk] MR1 transport issues
In-Reply-To: <CAB50Kq4bO3cn7mkpvBKf373FR1qjfnPGdqJ_Frvq2kmtT5=0oQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAB50Kq4bO3cn7mkpvBKf373FR1qjfnPGdqJ_Frvq2kmtT5=0oQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1394032798.3580.YahooMailNeo@web160204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Sounds like your reel motor needs to be replaced. 

The grease is no cause for concern, it provides some welcome 
lubrication.


-- Ron




On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 4:47 AM, drucyphr <drucyphr at gmail.com> wrote:
 
I'm trying to diagnose a problem that recently showed up on a MR1. Everything was fine before this problem. The transport is clean and the deck has a gear idler.
>
>
>When a tape is played, the deck would try to play then stop immediately. Same with FF and Rew. Similar to a idler tire issue or stuck motors. I sprayed the control and reel motors with a little deoxit and the controls came back to life for a bit.
>
>
>I ran the motor for a while on FF and Rew and then let the deck sit in Play mode. After a while the tape stopped again.
>
>
>Second inspection, I noticed a small amount of yellow grease on the cam where it sits on the control motor ass'y with Mode Switch in Stop. I'm not sure if this is a cause for concern, but I snapped a picture of the spot of grease after it rotates upwards while in Play mode. The rest of the Cam is clean.
>
>
>Can this grease be an issue? The image can be seen here, http://i.imgur.com/U8u6qqc.jpg
>
>
>Thank you.
>-Andrew
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From drucyphr at gmail.com  Wed Mar  5 16:10:37 2014
From: drucyphr at gmail.com (drucyphr)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 09:10:37 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] OMS-1 use(r) manual
In-Reply-To: <1394028249.63244.YahooMailNeo@web125602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1394028249.63244.YahooMailNeo@web125602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAB50Kq4C8zWZDS4DhQGE2JA5GgKMLbYfd0=StomzsFje8c5oBA@mail.gmail.com>

Look in the Official Documents section of the wiki, link in sig below.

-Andrew


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:04 AM, Tomislav Borzic <tborzic at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> I just acquired OMS-1 cd player, and would like to have owners manual.
> Anybody have a (scanned) copy? On web I found only service manual.
>
> Thanks,
> T.
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From drucyphr at gmail.com  Wed Mar  5 17:34:01 2014
From: drucyphr at gmail.com (drucyphr)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 10:34:01 -0600
Subject: [naktalk] MR1 transport issues
In-Reply-To: <1394032798.3580.YahooMailNeo@web160204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <CAB50Kq4bO3cn7mkpvBKf373FR1qjfnPGdqJ_Frvq2kmtT5=0oQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1394032798.3580.YahooMailNeo@web160204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAB50Kq5sqkE1KGi6Xz9UmmE1K4OdSExJBm9NTrKERyNh2SAEig@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the help Ron. Do you know of a source for reel motors besides
pulling from a parts deck?

-Andrew


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Sounds like your reel motor needs to be replaced.
>
> The grease is no cause for concern, it provides some welcome
> lubrication.
>
> -- Ron
>
>
>
>   On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 4:47 AM, drucyphr <drucyphr at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I'm trying to diagnose a problem that recently showed up on a MR1.
> Everything was fine before this problem. The transport is clean and the
> deck has a gear idler.
>
> When a tape is played, the deck would try to play then stop immediately.
> Same with FF and Rew. Similar to a idler tire issue or stuck motors. I
> sprayed the control and reel motors with a little deoxit and the controls
> came back to life for a bit.
>
> I ran the motor for a while on FF and Rew and then let the deck sit in
> Play mode. After a while the tape stopped again.
>
> Second inspection, I noticed a small amount of yellow grease on the cam
> where it sits on the control motor ass'y with Mode Switch in Stop. I'm not
> sure if this is a cause for concern, but I snapped a picture of the spot of
> grease after it rotates upwards while in Play mode. The rest of the Cam is
> clean.
>
> Can this grease be an issue? The image can be seen here,
> http://i.imgur.com/U8u6qqc.jpg
>
> Thank you.
> -Andrew
>
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From mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk  Wed Mar  5 21:01:18 2014
From: mercedesbenz999 at hotmail.co.uk (Mercedes Benz)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 20:01:18 +0000
Subject: [naktalk] MR1 transport issues
Message-ID: <BLU403-EAS202325F548E269CE20495C0B6890@phx.gbl>

Try cleaning the leaf switches with deoxit first. Sometimes they can cause intermittent control motor dysfunction on the BX300 which is quite similar to the MR1.

--Nadeem

Sent from my killer Windows Phone
________________________________
From: drucyphr
Sent: 05/03/2014 18:03
To: Ron; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks
Subject: Re: [naktalk] MR1 transport issues

Thanks for the help Ron. Do you know of a source for reel motors besides
pulling from a parts deck?

-Andrew


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Ron <ronami at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Sounds like your reel motor needs to be replaced.
>
> The grease is no cause for concern, it provides some welcome
> lubrication.
>
> -- Ron
>
>
>
>   On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 4:47 AM, drucyphr <drucyphr at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I'm trying to diagnose a problem that recently showed up on a MR1.
> Everything was fine before this problem. The transport is clean and the
> deck has a gear idler.
>
> When a tape is played, the deck would try to play then stop immediately.
> Same with FF and Rew. Similar to a idler tire issue or stuck motors. I
> sprayed the control and reel motors with a little deoxit and the controls
> came back to life for a bit.
>
> I ran the motor for a while on FF and Rew and then let the deck sit in
> Play mode. After a while the tape stopped again.
>
> Second inspection, I noticed a small amount of yellow grease on the cam
> where it sits on the control motor ass'y with Mode Switch in Stop. I'm not
> sure if this is a cause for concern, but I snapped a picture of the spot of
> grease after it rotates upwards while in Play mode. The rest of the Cam is
> clean.
>
> Can this grease be an issue? The image can be seen here,
> http://i.imgur.com/U8u6qqc.jpg
>
> Thank you.
> -Andrew
>
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